The David Knight Show - 28Dec23 David Knight Show Unabridged

Episode Date: December 28, 2023

Gard Goldsmith, Liberty Conspiracy, hostsHow we're all indebted to Biden — literally. The debt is EXPLODING. It's not just inflation of prices, but inflation of the debt Oh, Canada…pressing closer to UBI, is the USA next?Gaza & the ghastly state of ethics (for some)Birx follow-up…and YOUR thoughts!Find out more about the show and where you can watch it at TheDavidKnightShow.comIf you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-showOr you can send a donation throughMail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @[e-mail] App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Money is only what YOU hold: Go to DavidKnight.gold for great deals on physical gold/silverFor 10% off Gerald Celente's prescient Trends Journal, go to TrendsJournal.com and enter the code KNIGHTBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.

Happiness. We all know what it feels like, but sometimes it doesn't come easy. I'm Garvey Bailey, the host of Happy Enough, a new podcast from The Globe and Mail about our pursuit of happiness. We know people want to live more fulfilling and positive lives, but how do we actually do that? Is there a happiness code to crack? From our relationship with technology to whether money can really buy you happiness, we'll hear from both real people and experts to demystify this thing we're all searching for and hopefully find ways to be happy enough. You can find Happy Enough wherever you listen to podcasts. Using free speech to free minds. You're listening to The David Knight Show. As the clock strikes 13,

we gather once more here at Airstrip One. I'm Gardner Goldsmith filling in for David Knight on The David Knight Show. Welcome, one and all. On this 28th day of December, year of our Lord 2023, we've got lots to discuss. Thursday. As Douglas Adams might have said, I never could get the handle of Thursdays.

Well, we're going to get a handle of it today, one and all. Together, thank you for joining us. Well, it's great to have you along for the ride, one and all. I'm Gardner Goldsmith, sitting in for David, who is taking some much-deserved time off on the David Knight Show. And I'll be here with you from 9 a.m. Eastern until noontime today. Really looking forward to it. And of course, Tony Arterburn of Wise Wolf Gold and Silver Exchange was going to be sitting in the chair today, but Tony is sick. So we communicated this morning and I said, hey, I am grateful to be able to join the audience of The David Knight Show. So thank you for watching.

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Today, oh, Canada. Yeah, they just make it worse, as Radio Birdman would say, or they're getting close to. We'll find out about that on the economic front. We'll also talk about Gaza and the ghastly state of ethics. I mentioned yesterday and I discussed this on my program last night, Liberty Conspiracy, which, by the way, I should mention, you can stream, watch, listen to, whatever you want to do on Rumble, on Rockfin, and on Twitter every Monday through Friday, starting at 6 Eastern time. We roll for at least 90 minutes, and that locomotive is going hard on the tracks. So join us for Liberty Conspiracy, and if you want to watch after the fact, you can

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happening in the EU with X slash Twitter and Elon Musk. Is he a hero for free speech? Is it a long game? We don't know, but we'll look at those actions that could be coming we'll also we'll also give you a follow-up after something i discussed last night in the program this gaza and the gosley state of ethics uh i'll give you a follow-up to a little something that i mentioned they're combined here on the program and the david night show because i mentioned that this man doug Murray, who's a British writer, British commentator, was on with Piers Morgan as the host. I think the show is called Uncensored over in the UK. And they had Senk Younger or Unger or Uger from the Young Turks, the inaptly named, very, very poorly named program that unfortunately

reminds people of the Armenian genocide. And I don't think I've ever found an opportunity to agree with Sankyonger. And again, I'm not trying to pick a side on the Israeli-Gaza issue, but I've always found that over the past few months here, a lot of the pro-deep state or conservatives, the very pro-Israel, Zionist, State of Israel supporters often will not discuss or are not aware of, maybe perhaps both, many major aspects in the history of the establishment of the State of Israel and what it has done in encroaching into Palestine and has continued to do to many of the people there, including holding many of them hostage. And so yesterday I mentioned that Douglas Murray got into it with Cenk Uygur, and a lot of folks were commenting on Twitter slash X That he just destroyed Senk from the Young Turks I mean, it was a devastating takedown Well, I had a bit of a different opinion about that And I went through this 20-minute video last night

I went through about 17 minutes of the video last night on my program We went extended And for like an extra half hour, I went through this. And I'd like to show you segments of that, because I'd like to get your thoughts on this to see whether you think I was fair to Douglas Murray. And do you think I was fair to Cenk? And some of the things that you might've heard that maybe I don't know. So we'll talk about Gaza and the ghastly state of ethics, as they might say, as the King Charles must say, the ghastly state of ethics.

Yes, yes. Which one of my houses is empty today? Oh, that's all right. Climate change doesn't get affected by that because, of course, we all know it's a canard. Pip, pip, cheerio. Carry on with the canard. Then we're going to discuss a follow-up as well about Deborah Birx. In fact, I'm going to push that up in the program to get right to that very, very quickly in the first probably half hour of the show.

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Knights of the Storm website to find out all of the great schedules. Just hit their friends tab. And also in Rumble, I want to thank you for being there as well. Or as they might have said, Sly Stone might have said, thank you for let me be myself. All right. So let's get into some of the major stories. What's going to be the first one? Well, for that, we get to turn back to England, not necessarily to the King, but we can just take a couple letters off of that, one letter off of that, and add two more, and we turn it into a state of confusion coming out of California from the Kinks. kinks i like this video. As Ray Davies plays his guitar, supposedly mouths to the song, but of course drops the guitar.

It's just, it's pretty funny. It's a great little video. State of Confusion. And boy, what a terrific band. Sort of very much along the lines of people who are Anglophiles still loving the Kinks and wishing that the Davies Brothers would get back together

again. They were the forerunners of the Oasis Brothers, right? Well, here's the story out of California and Red State covers this fairly well. I got to discuss this last night on my on, uh, my Liberty conspiracy program, of course, streaming Monday through Friday, starting at six o'clock Eastern time. Check it out, everybody. Yeah. We're brought to you by Lockheed Martin, Lockheed

Martin dropping bombs of truth all the time. And also brought to you by Nikki Haley, who was on the board of Lockheed Martin now. Hey, who's making Nikki rich? That's right. We warmongers are making Nikki rich. Awesome. So here's the story out of California from red state. I do have some quibbles with this, but I want to let Ward Clark open things up. Ward Clark and whoever the editor was, they tell us this. Happiness. We all know what it feels like, but sometimes it doesn't come easy. I'm Garvey Bailey, the host of Happy Enough, a new podcast from the Globe and Mail about our pursuit of happiness. We know people want to live more fulfilling and positive lives, but how do we actually

do that? Is there a happiness code to crack? From our relationship with technology to whether money can really buy you happiness, we'll hear from both real people and experts to demystify this thing we're all searching for and hopefully find ways to be happy enough. You can find Happy Enough wherever you listen to podcasts. California to find stores without gender-neutral toy sections. So stores that don't create, according to the dictates of the politicians, what the politicians want to make them do in their stores will be fined, which, as I mentioned on my program last night, that's called fascism.

Yes, that's fascism. It is the feedback loop of helping the government and institute their policies through the so-called marketplace, which is no longer a marketplace, or the government will punish those businesses, fine them, so-called regulate them. Isn't that a wonderful euphemism? If only the mafia could use those terms. Hey, boss, I went over the other day and I went down to Parcheesi's cheese shop. Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, I told him, I said, I said, hey, hey, you don't do what we're going to what we want you to do. We're going to threaten you. Oh, listen, Vinny, Vinny, kid, I know you're new here. Yeah, boss, I did what you said. No, no, not quite, not quite. We're adopting a new way of doing things. A new way?

That's right. It's like that band the Harvards sang about, the new way. Well, what's the new way, boss? The new way is something you might've seen in, oh, I don't know, Nazi Germany. It's national socialism. National socialism? Yeah, it's sort of like this fascist combination of like, you know, the government just dominates everything. In this case, we're

going to go to Italy and talk about Mussolini. His idea of getting the government involved with everything had to do with what he called fascism. It was the old Roman fascis. When you combine them, they're stronger. Of course, the thing combining them is the central authority with its central plans, which is always really dumb. But for us, it's okay, because we're the mob. Hey, boss, that's pretty good. Yeah, that's right, Vinny. So here's the deal. We're no longer using terms like point guns at you, threaten you, manhandle you, rob from you. No, no, no. We got terms that they use in government. These are the sorts of things that Edward Bernays would have written about in his book, Propaganda. Oh, you know, you sound a little bit like Anthony Fauci. Senator Paul, I resent your implication. What? Oh, sorry. Sorry. I just I just bounced away to the Senate there for a minute when I was testifying and lying through my teeth. But anyway, yeah. So we here in the mafia are using new terms like, oh, you know, regulate, regulate. That's right. It's the same thing as tell somebody to do what you want them to do,

or you're going to break them down and shut them down. But it sounds nicer. Edward Bernays, you know? Bernays, is that like a sauce that you get on a sandwich or something? Bernays sauce? Well, it's a sauce of a sort. It's a horse of a different color. Oh, that's great, boss. Yeah. Let's see how this regulation stuff is doing in california ah i hear california is doing really great boss yeah for the mafia it is all right here we go that's your little excursion here's the story from red state it seems like scarcely a day goes by without news of more California lunacy. Now it's toys. No more toys, as the Burgermeister Meisterburger would say. And if he was rainbow, he'd say, toys for gender neutral. I command it. Now it's toys, writes Red State. The government of the state of California, having solved every other problem vexing the people of that state, is set now to fine, read that, punish. Good job, Mr. Ward.

Good job, red state. I dig what you're going with. I do have some quibbles, though. So-called regulate stores that eschew carrying woke gender neutral toys. So what I think is pretty darn funny here, okay, is that for many of the youngest kids, they're not even, they can't even tell the difference. It's the parents, right? They're like, yeah, the kids will be attracted

to what they want. They're not gonna be reading labels. And I don't know about you, but I could always tell the difference between the boys' section and the girls' section. I didn't go to the girls' section. I might've walked through the girls' section to get my Planet of the Apes action figures in the boys' section next to the Tonka trucks. But here's the story originally from Fox News. Red State quotes, California stores with more than 500 employees. And by the way,

I covered this when this first passed. I wrote about this for MRCTV. So when I saw this, the alarm bells came to me and they said, hey, buddy, remember this one? And I thought, oh, yeah, it's coming January 1st. I wrote about it. Thank you, MRCTV team. And I didn't even mention everybody. You can find my work for MRCTV at MRCTV.org. Check out what the whole team does there. It's the Media Research Center in their 37th year once a new state law kicks in January 1st. The bill, signed in 2021 by Democrat Governor Gavin Newsom, I wonder if he did that at that bistro, the French Laundry, while he shut down everybody and hung out with people instead for his birthday when he shouldn't have, according to his own diktats.

You know, the mafia. What's good for them is not good for you. Gavin Newsom will force stores that sell child care items or toys to pay a $500 fine should the store fail to create a so-called gender-neutral toy section for kids 12 years old and under. What they ought to do is like put a bunch of like really ugly things there, like nasty stuff, like old toilet paper rolls, you know, like just the cardboard rolls and stuff like that. And just let, you know, like, ah, here's just saying, see if anybody buys it. Oh, it's our gender neutral. There you go. A childcare item, according to the legislation text, literally the government is talking about what is a child care item. That is how far it has come. And I'll get into the major facet for me, and I'll discuss, of course, what might be the major facet to other people. I'm not sure. Both of them are very vexing. But one of them, I think, gives us a long term lesson constitutionally, functionally.

The other gives us a long term lesson when it comes to things like the Frankfurt School and cultural Marxism, the long term march of the Fabian Socialists. A child care item, according to the wonderful people in Sacramento, the state capital of California, is any product designed or intended by the manufacturer to facilitate sleep, relaxation, or the feeding of children, or to help children with sucking or teething. Traditional boys and girls sections won't be outlawed. Well, isn't that magnanimous of them? How sweet. They won't be banned by the government, but a gender neutral section must also be created. So you politicians in Sacramento, following that wonderful example of the San Francisco Assemblyman Scott Weiner, the guy, as I mentioned, let's go into the Fabian Socialist mess-up-the-family aspect of this. First, Scott Weiner was behind this bill as well as many others. He also is one of the people who from San Francisco, you've seen him marching around in the rainbow parades and stuff like that. He also helped get past just a few

months ago, which is in that direction, just a few months ago in California, maybe that direction for you. He also got passed two statutes. One is a statute that allows any child who is in a family that is getting some sort of state or federal medical care help, like Medicaid, to run away from the family, to leave the family and join a state house somewhere, some state-run agency for kids, and ask to be put up by that state agency, ask to be separated from the parents, ask for his so-called liberation from the parents, even if the kid is under age. The parents can't do anything. And even before the child might be so-called liberated, the child can get hooked up with a state-provided psychiatrist, psychologist, who will then provide the opportunity for the child to start getting body mutilation to then address the child's gender identity problem, as they say, to give that child so-called gender identity care

while the parents are fighting to get the child back. That's what Scott Weiner is like. He also was behind a bill that they passed in California that makes California a so-called sanctuary state for outside runaways coming from other states in the union who run to California. They are now saying they don't have to extradite a return that runaway underage kids if they've come to California for reasons of gender identity. Seriously, that is Scott Wiener. Those are the mindsets of the people now telling other people who risk their money, risk their time, risk their opportunities

to do other things to open up toy stores, whether it's big corporations or small one-man, one-lady shops, whatever it might be, right? And now they're telling them, not only we are categorizing the stuff you're selling, we're going to tell you how to sell the stuff. But of course, on many different gradations, this is what government on every level does, whether it's licensing, which is massively, massively unethical to say, well, you know, you can't participate in the peaceful activity of offering something to someone else who can take it or leave it and competing against others to lower price, increase quality and longevity of your product or service. You can't do that unless you get our government permission, because somehow when we get elected, we think we magically represent, as Rousseau might have said, the will, the general will, and we're somehow infallible. Meanwhile, Rousseau did not want what he called the will of all which was actually individuals you determining what you found valuable and laying down your money for that so that you could actually

expose what you found valuable other people could see it and they could respond to it in that way the free market and then you get people competing saying wow there's some profit over there i'll shift my behavior and start doing that because it seems like people like that more. So you're servicing, as Adam Smith said, through the invisible hand to help yourself. You're actually servicing other people and their needs because they're showing their needs in the interaction. They can't have that in California toy stores. They can't have that in so many aspects of our lives. We can't label things on a national level the way we want to. Meanwhile, the FDA is working with giant pharma corporations to hide information. Meanwhile, the government officials appointed by Donald Trump and others like Joe Biden later on are hiding information and lying

to us explicitly while other branches of the government are working to suppress our information and silence us using our own money. If you're not familiar with my work over at MRCTV, David Knight has mentioned this. I've mentioned this on my program. We are almost always, at least once a month, assailed by NewsGuard. NewsGuard, a combination creation many years ago by people at Microsoft and others, funded, we discovered, thanks to the Twitter files exposure, funded by money that came from something called the Portman-Murphy Countering Foreign Propaganda Act, which was floated around in

2016 as they tried to gin up this fear of russia it was put into the 2016 national defense authorization act because of course everything has to get thrown in there you just got to throw it in like you know some stew it's mostly poison and barack obama signed it it gave 75 million dollars per year for two years to media outlets that the government at the dod determined were fighting on the foreign propaganda some of that money went to news guard i have spent hours responding to news guards i won't call them entreaties i'll call missives, notes of annoyance to tell us that they're going to downgrade MRCTV on their list of websites where people might want to go to advertise. And they have massive sway because they're carried on many Microsoft search engines and

stuff on, what is uh, Bing or whatever, that sort of thing. So they get suppressed, right? If you're using edge browser, right? You have an option, I think if you want to use that, uh, so NewsGuard is big and they would hurt MRC TV. And the only problems with the stories for them, they just didn't take the time to click my hyperlinks and actually see where I cited the information. Because I don't want to embarrass myself putting out stories that I can't support. Duh. It's amazing.

You know, it's like, hey, if you want longevity in something and you want to deal honestly with people, maybe the honest thing might be the first thing on your mind. You might want to give people information and they can compare and refer. And then that will give you the longevity, just like any product. So these people don't want to open their own shops in California. They don't want to compete. Maybe there is a market for this. No, instead they're promoting this cultural Marxism. Find a new David all the time and you will be the supposed protector of the little guy. And there's always going to be a new minority, a new victim. As I said, anybody who tuned in to any of those awful, just insufferable Oprah Winfrey shows, almost every day they were celebrating how they overcame their victimhood

while actually promoting the idea that they were victims and getting more people to think, oh, maybe I'm a victim. It was the culture of victimology writ large. It was absolutely vile. And that's part of the way that she made her money, appealing to people who say, oh yes, I too am a victim. And then that leads into politics because the cultural Marxists take

advantage of that. And they always say, just like Marx tried to say, he was fighting for the working guy. Meanwhile, he was getting his money from Engels' father's textile plant while he was writing saying that the industrial revolution and plants like that were evil. That's where he was getting his money to write the communist manifesto. Unbelievable. It's just the hypocrisy is amazing. So these people don't want to be peaceful. They want to do this. Now let's go to the constitutional side of things. Just very quickly, if I'm in a lecture hall, I always try to bring up this very important functional side of things. And this California story is a great leap point to offer information about all these things, whether it be

about licensing and the economic moral problem. If you are in a state and they're licensing, let's say they wanted to license interior designers. Seriously, they wanted to license interior designers. What that does is it gives the interior designers who already have businesses and larger margins the ability to be able to pay the fees and exclude lower price competition. That then harms poorer people. Poorer people can't get the service now. Previously, if there weren't licensing, if there weren't licensing, if there weren't all these regulations, they might not be able to get the top-notch service from the person who's been there the longest and can charge the most and has the greatest skills,

but they might have been able to get something. Hairstylists, barbers, whatever. And it's not up to the state to protect you from your own decisions. First of all, that's incredibly arrogant. And second of all, the arrogance also applies to any concept of the state. This is why I am a voluntarist. I'm an agorist, or some might call a Christian anarchist. I believe that there should be anarchy, no ruler. And if you're going to have something like that, then don't fall for the canard of so-called self-government that they call that, that they use when they say that you're living in a place of an experiment of self-governance. Because self-governance is you governing yourself, not falling prey to the diktats of the tyranny of the majority,

even if it's siphoned through a so-called representative democratic republic and a constitution. Because as we've seen, the constitution hasn't really protected many people. It's protected some. It's fallen flat often, I'll say it that way. And also, the politicians swear oaths to it, and they really don't seem to care, do they? In addition to that, if we look at it technically, logically, abductive logic, if we look at the empirical and we look at the inductive and deductive logic and combine them, we can see that the Constitution was something I never signed and you never signed. And the people who signed the Constitution and adopted it, they can't do that for us. We never gave them our acquiescence and permission to do something on our behalf.

And if we did, mathematically, it would be impossible because representation through a political system is impossible because the polis only operates through force. That is the difference between a government and a private business institution. If everything were voluntary, it wouldn't be a state because you would have chosen to hire somebody to do what you want. So this idea of so-called protection against, oh, unlicensed hairstylists, anything like that, in order to even engage in something that some people think, well, there might be a risk. Maybe you might clip an ear and cause blood, something like that. Again, even if you think that that is something that should be policed by the state, in order for you to get that police action to go in and inspect that person and tell them now, you must do this, you must do that, you must do this, you must do that, rather than letting the market decide. And if these people are bad, they will go fallow and

have to do something else. Like everything else, like a talk show, if you don people are bad, they will go fallow and have to do something else. Like everything else, like a talk show, if you don't like it, you'll go someplace else. If you like it, you'll promote it. You'll say, hey, I've heard something I enjoy, right? I like the personality of this person. I like the audience, that sort of thing. Well, just like that, instead, government engages in not just forcing that person to do what he says, to do what the government says, the politicians, but it also now forces somebody else who's not even part of it, might not be even interested in going to a barber like me. I don't have to go to barbers to have to now pay for the policing of that. That too is immoral. It's an immoral imposition done through the state,

supposedly under self-governance. Well, the person who's now being taxed to pay for the police system to handle this or the inspection of these toy stores, what does he care? He should be left alone to decide where and when and how he wants to spend his time, his money, and his thoughts. So this is a big deal, finally, when we look at the Constitution, because this story from Red State exposes a very important point. This supposedly applies to stores with more than 500 employees, right? And I remember that one, so it's not just the single person. I remember when I wrote that. That's right. So if you look at the U.S. Constitution, there is a great lesson that can be drawn from this. To round off this simple story from California, which is not so simple.

It's an impediment. It's an imposition. And it's immoral. We'll talk about morality in Gaza and Douglas Murray in just a minute. But the Constitution has within it what is called the Contract Clause. And if you look at the lockdowns that were imposed by state legislatures and governors, thanks to Donald Trump's ridiculous, completely unconstitutional, so-called executive order of an emergency on March 13th, 2020. For something that was labeled a pandemic, which was not a pandemic, the case rates were heightened because of faulty PCR tests that they ginned up to many, many cycles and would have found a positive for anything that they were looking for. The death rate was ginned up because the federal government, as Deborah Birx admitted at the White House in April of 2020, they were literally paying. And USA Today confirmed this. I have it hyperlinked. News NewsGuard.

It's hyperlinked in many of my articles so you can find it. USA Today said, yes, they do incentivize to detune in some cases of thirty thousand,000 per patient, if the hospital puts them on ventilators and, of course, lists a death as death from COVID, not just with a faulty PCR test, possibly. So any numbers that people are looking at regarding the death numbers in any nation state are unreliable. No one will ever know how many people died from the cowabunga virus, right? And even the virus was not actually identified based on Koch's postulates. It was put together based on computer algorithms in a lab. That's how they identified it, with substrates. So with all those problems, let's just think about this. The lockdowns telling people you are essential, you are not essential.

We're going to stop you from engaging in your business. The United States Constitution. And again, I'm an anarchist. I think the Constitution, if they could get closer to the Constitution, that would be great. Decentralization would be great. Fewer command and control from central authority ideas harm fewer people if there are mistakes, and they're easier to escape if you've got a decentralized system. F.A. Hayek talked about this a great deal. The information problem is inherent

in all centralized systems. So if you've got dispersed information, let the people that are closer to the information make the decisions with it. And it's not even my choice to let them. They have the freedom and the right to be able to do that. That's the point. You don't impose your will on others. That's the simple moral predicate. But the contract clause of the federal constitution, and I would rather have the Articles of Confederation or even perhaps a monarchy, because then I would know who my enemy was, but, or no government, my preference, that would be my, my, my, my great choice, like the Brehon law system in Ireland. But the constitution has what's called the contract clause, which prohibits any state legislature or governor from imposing basically any state government from imposing, uh, from breaching the fulfillment of a pre-agreed to private contract.

So if there is a business agreement, say you are supposed to deliver your pizzas someplace for a pizza party on Saturday, you've got a contract, you've got employees, you've got agreements with the employees where they don't have to wear masks. It was never part of the agreement. They don't have to not come in and work from home. That was not part of the agreement. They don't have to not come in and work from home. That was not part of the agreement. Those impositions from any state would be contrary to the contract clause, just like this one is. Just like this one. That's the state of confusion. Very, very, very sad. not just Joe Biden, but also Donald Trump with his $2 trillion CARES Act in 2020,

the PPP, giving money to all sorts of people. I wrote a piece about this for MRCTV. Yes, not just theaters and Jared Kushner, friends of Jared Kushner, that sort of thing. But also bands like the Smashing Pumpkins and I believe Nickelback because they couldn't go on tour. going to Mexico. You've got to be jabbed. The Canadians do this. To come into the United States, they do this for truckers. They shut down the supply lines, making prices skyrocket, even as they're increasing the money supply by trillions of dollars and decreasing the buying power of every unit of money that is out there. The inflation of the money supply is inflation. The price increases are what the journalists typically call inflation. That's not the inflation. You might call it price inflation, but that's resultant of the inflation, which causes many, many errant investments, malinvestment. It causes people to take risks that they normally wouldn't take to expect that their business is going to be booming

in the future. So they invest in new things like R&D, new employees. And then as people on the consumer side start to see their prices skyrocket, they pull back their spending. And the people who now invested in all this stuff have it sitting fallow. So they've got to liquidate it, eh? As they said at the end of The Wizard of Oz, you liquidated her, eh? Very resourceful. Those resources have to be brought down in price to a price that more closely reflects the resources. We're going through the process now as jobs are being cut all over the place, including, as I mentioned, for MRCTV, the toy, the second largest toy maker in the world, Hasbro. Hasbro just cut 1,100 workers. GM got rid of half of its Buick dealerships recently, 50% of its Buick dealerships, because the Buick dealerships

protested being forced to have to take EVs, which of course are subsidized by the federal government. Let's talk about money right now, my friends, and turn to our friends, the fake band. You know them, you. You know what I need. Oh, maybe you don't. Do I have to come right flat out and tell you everything? Give me some money. Give me some money. Oh, I can't beat it.

Or does the government think that we are fools and clowns? Well, let's take the positive side. Let's go the high road and turn their political frowns upside down, everyone. Well, we got to give you some bad news first. So let's get to the national debt. This comes from Just the News, and here is their report. The national debt has jumped more than $6 trillion from Biden's first term compared to slightly over $3 trillion during the same time frame of Trump's term. Now, some people might think that, oh, well, this shows us that Trump is so much better. No, it doesn't necessarily show you that because Trump helped put everybody on this railroad track and set the locomotive going.

The U.S. national debt has increased twice as fast under President Joe Biden as of December 2023 compared to former President Donald Trump, according to data released by the Congressional Budget Office, the CBO. The national debt has grown by more than $6 trillion during Biden's first term, compared to slightly over $3 trillion during the same time frame during Trump's term in office. Biden took office on January 20, 2021. Oh, and what a day that was, wasn't it? When the national debt stood at $27.7 trillion. Today, the national total debt is close to $34 trillion. And by the way, they are accruing almost a trillion

dollars in debt servicing. That's interest on the debt every quarter now. That's awesome. What keeps growing? Government and debt. It's nothing like the land of the free and that self-government, huh? You're born into debt slavery. Hello, freedom child. Okay, it's like freedom fries. Just rename it. It makes it completely different. Today, the total national debt is close to $34 trillion. Oh, man.

Okay, the CBO projected that the deficit would average $2 trillion for fiscal year 2024. That's the deficit, average $2 trillion for fiscal year 2024. That's the deficit, bringing the national debt to $36 trillion on October 1st, 2024, which is the end of the U.S. government's 2024 fiscal year. If it makes it that long, I probably will. Former President Donald, I've got the best debt. Donald Trump took office on January 20th, 2017, when the national debt stood at $19.9 trillion. At the end of December 2019, the national debt grew to slightly over $23 trillion. So just to give you some perspective, those numbers, of course, are big, massive numbers.

The total national debt close to $34 trillion. When Biden took office, it stood at $27.7 trillion. Okay. I think we all pretty much get, yeah, it's growing. It's growing big time. What about the face of this? Well, let me give you one example here. As I go into my Twitter feed, this comes from Fox News. I saw this last night and I thought I would offer this to you because it gives you a face. It gives you an idea of what some people are facing. The face of a person who's facing possibly no longer being able to do what she wanted to do for and has been doing for 30 some years so let me give this to you from fox news it's about a woman who's a baker in minnesota so let's check it out from fox here's the story

baker supposed to celebrate its 30th anniversary this week, but instead it is closing its doors over the rising cost of doing business. And the owner is now pleading for donations to keep her bakery afloat. Tammy Cabrera is the owner of Muddy Paws Cheesecake, and she joins me now. Tammy, I'm sorry this is happening to you. What was the final straw for you? Oh, good morning. With the combination of the last two years of ingredient prices rising and supplies like boxes, deliveries, things like that, and that combined with debt coming into the last two years, it came to a point where I just couldn't straddle both the debt and the high ingredient prices. So those of us in the bakery world, we work on really small margins as it is.

And then when you add prices that rise really quickly or greatly, it's hard to do business. Let's look at some numbers. Prices for key baking ingredients like eggs, milk, sugar, flour, and butter have all increased at least 15% since December of 2020. In your 30 years in business, Tammy, have you ever seen price hikes like this on your ingredients? I have not. Well, let's just put my face on there rather than Tyson Commercial. They're two to five times higher than what they've ever been. Have you ever seen price hikes like this

on your ingredients i have not they're asked they're two to five times higher than what they've ever been for us and the simple answer might be to raise your prices but you can only raise your prices so much for you lose customers or you're not competitive so you get stuck in that that middle part and when you have debt like we do do going into that, we just can't move forward without help. Yeah. I mean, how much of that increase, to your point, can you ultimately pass on to the customers? Is it 5%? Is it 10%? Like what number can you do without driving those customers away, Tammy? Yeah. I would say like 5% is probably the greatest I can go. Our customers are also our friends. Like when you're in business for 30 years, you're part of

people's weddings and birthdays and stories and you get to know them and they come in and they come in every celebration and we get to know them. So I want to be walking that fine line of making it where they can still get cheesecake, but then also that we can stay in business. You are just one of many small businesses struggling. Does it feel like the system just doesn't support small businesses right now? And if so, why? Like, who do you blame? Yeah, I believe it's not just bakeries or food providers, but other small businesses are facing high prices in all different ways. I don't know exactly where the blame falls, but I do feel like we fall through the cracks

in receiving help. And it'd be nice if cities would help in lots of ways, like maybe advertising. And I'm not really sure of all the ways they can help. But I do feel like there's room for that. So there's unfortunately a bit of a problem. See, that's the thing. As Harry Brown used to say, government is good at doing two things. I think it's three.

He said, breaking your legs and then providing crutches for you and saying, see, if it weren't for me, you wouldn't be able to walk around. That's really three things. And I think there's another one, which is expecting you to be grateful. So she's, well, can't the government help? No, no, that's not the right idea. Because in trying to help this woman, what would the government be doing? They'd be using money from other people, right? Future generations, probably, if there's debt. So what she's doing here is saying, I'm being harmed by government. Then they're saying, well, couldn't there be an answer? The answer is get government out of it, right? Let's take an opportunity to talk a little bit about the minimum wage. There's a very interesting story from Fast Company that shows us just how much people seem to love fascism by dictating how much someone's work is worth to a consumer. And there's a lesson in this for economics that is very important. A lot of people think that the employer is the boss. The consumer is the boss. The consumer actually is the employer. The consumer is the boss. The consumer actually is the employer.

The consumer is the one who employs the typically seen, traditionally seen employer and that employer's employee staff. And we're all free to decide. We should be. What we want to buy, what we don't want to buy. If we don't want to help this woman with her advertising, we shouldn't be forced to do so. That just compiles more immorality on the already larger problem of getting things to her. The supply chain, as I mentioned, becoming more expensive. Minimum wage increases for 2024. Is this in your state, my friends? Starting January 1st, some workers in 22 states will see a raise next week on January 1st. I see. And then what will happen? Are their jobs really worth it? What will the consumer do? As she says, there are certain things that the consumers just won't buy. They'll either find alternatives or they just will do without.

In total, an estimated 9.9 million workers will see additional wages thanks to the increased rate, equating to $6.95 billion in wages, according to an analysis from the Economic Policy Institute. Now, some people would say, oh, that's great. People making $6.95 billion more, right? But I'm sure you know, and you could tell this to a class sometime and get up in front of the class and teach. That's $6.95 billion that is being redirected from other options. As Frederick Bastia said, it is the broken window fallacy, what is seen and what is not seen. Opportunity cost, the term in economics, of course, where you're now having an opportunity to spend your money that you could have saved by buying something for less on something else. You can't spend it on something else. You can't employ that other person now. And if it's going to go up, why go up by this much? Why not go up even more? Why not make it 60 billion more in wages? Why won't that be helpful? Isn't that going to be better?

Perhaps it's because it makes labor too expensive. That's a major factor in the production process. All your factors of manufacturing have to be considered, which is one of the reasons why, just like ancient cavemen used to use tools without even designing them but just sort of figuring out that a lever might help one guy push something or lever it away or an inclined plane inclined plane would let one guy lift something up that used to take two guys because now it's covering more distance rather than going perpendicularly up, you're going at an angle. So there's more distance, but a smaller unit of smaller units of force inside each measure of distance. So it's easier for one man to do it. You've now freed up somebody. Some people would say, oh, that means that the second guy is unemployed. The second guy is free to be more

productive. That's the point. We don't want to work harder for what we want to get. We want to work less for what we want to get. And that's something that even ancient people did. As I said, they didn't burden themselves by having pregnant women go on the hunt. They had division of labor, even in caveman days. Old guys weren't out there on the hunt. They were back in the cave skinning. And as they did what they did best, they had division of labor. They could then do early bartering. Bartering becomes difficult

when you have third parties, fourth parties, and so on. You have to keep going around trying to figure out who wants what and who might take what. So you have to go to extra parties. So people often find something that is commonly valued by many people. They start to recognize, well, you know what? Most you have to go to extra parties. So people often find something that is commonly valued by many people.

They start to recognize, well, you know what? Most people like this. And they will trade to get stores of that and then use that as their unit of currency, which is the creation of money. It's not it doesn't it's not dictated to us by kings. Right. So here we've got the idea that first the government or the government granted monopoly can issue the money. And of course, in order to let the government keep playing favorites with people to pander to them, like giving money to Solyndra and Proterra, the EV battery manufacturer that was so loved by Jennifer Granholm when she was governor of Michigan. All those pandering things, airports, highway funds, school funds, Medicare, Medicaid funds, whatever interest group it might be. Right. Or even the funds to police toy stores now in California. Those funds have got to be generated somehow and people will resist if they're taxed beyond a certain point. So states engage in borrowing.

They float bonds and someone's got to buy them. Well, that typically is the Federal Reserve or branches of the government themselves. Strangely enough, they'll do that. So the Federal Reserve creates new money and buys the bonds. When those bonds have to be paid off, the feds have to issue new bonds to pay off the old bonds, and the fed will buy the new bonds. So it's a giant Ponzi scheme. It's a giant shell game, you might say. And it all is part of doing this sort of thing. In this case, we see the fascism mandating that the businesses extract $6.95 billion from consumers

if consumers are willing to pay it. Maybe they won't. And it's just a terrible thing that's being done to so many potential employees because people on the low end won't have skills that will match what the consumers are willing to pay. So they'll either lose their jobs or they'll never be hired. Those opportunities now are lost. As Frederick Bastia said in his broken window fallacy essay, the parable of the broken window, when a politician was saying, well, look, that broken window, that's actually a benefit. That storm broke that window, but that'll give work to the glazier. Isn't that fantastic? Basia said, all you're doing is redirecting the flow of that usable capital from where the person who earned it might have wanted to spend it to better his life. Now he's going to spend it just to repair the window, just to remain where he was before. He's not progressing. He's not increasing his living

standard. He's just maintaining. And you're losing sight of the person who could have received that in that new business. That's what government does. It is, by its nature, breaking your windows. And that's axiomatic. You can't escape that. And so these decisions should be made based on productivity and whether the employees are providing something to consumers. And they always demonize the employer. productivity, and whether the employees are providing something to consumers. And they always demonize the employer. Should the consumer be demonized? Should people be going out and protesting and saying, we want the consumers to pay more? How dare you be money-grubbing

consumers trying to save? Well, that's all the employer is trying to do, is trying to provide the best product to people. And if he can't provide a good wage to the employees, there'll be another business that'll crop up, especially if consumers have extra money left over to spend on another business. Let's see what's happening in another country right now, as we look at economics a little bit more. Let's see what happens when you get central banks, whether it's a central government issuing the money like the Roman government. They used to call the coins in, shave silver off the coins, reissue the old coins claiming they were worth just as much, and then use the money that they shaved off to help pay their debts as they had their giant

hegemonic empire expanded all the way up into the United Kingdom. So let's talk about, I guess they never made it to Wales. They got repelled by the Welsh barbarians. Very interesting. It's very good to Edgar Rice Burroughs' novel, I Am a Barbarian, talking about being from that area and going down and fighting in Rome. But let's talk about the extension of the Roman Empire a little bit right now, central banking, and where they might be going. In a nation state just north of here where I am in New Hampshire, what's there? O Canada, our home and native land, True patriot love in all thy sons command With glowing hearts we see thee rise The true North strong and free

Ah, how about that Declaration of Rights and Freedoms in Canada, huh? Yeah, Justin Trudeau really respected that. He engaged in his emergency before they even voted on it. And by the way, there's one last vestige of the British government that's supposed to have a final say as to whether or not they can engage in an emergency. And even emergency orders under Trudeau, even then, the emergency orders that they passed after their Charter of Rights and Freedoms in Canada, it contradicts with the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. For example, in Canada, you're supposed to, according to their Charter of Rights and Freedoms that was revised in the 80s, you're supposed to be able to

travel from province to province unmolested by the government. Guess what Trudeau and some of the provincial governors did? Yeah, that's right. And central troops, just like I mentioned yesterday on the Dave and I show, and I've mentioned on my show, in the U.S. Constitution, Article 4, Section 4 allows for the militia to be called up by the federal government if a state legislature or a governor has asked for the militia to come in to help preserve their so-called constitutional government from invasion or violence. And Greg Abbott has done that. And now the governor of Arizona, a Democrat, has also done that. And Biden's not responding. In Canada, the provincial governors are supposed to be the ones who they have to ask for the federal soldiers, military to come in before those soldiers and military can come in. So it's quite interesting.

It's analogous to the United States Constitution. Let's talk about what's going on in Canada as politicians in Canada creep closer to universal basic income and they get closer to CBDC. Here's Professor Pete St. Onge. Pete St. Onge has done excellent work and he's been an advisor for the Heritage Foundation of all things. And he's probably one of their strongest free, real free market type people at Heritage. Heritage isn't bad, but I much prefer the Mises Institute. Heritage is much more sort of almost rhino sometimes now. It used to be a little bit more openly towards freedom.

But Pete St. Onge, great on his economics, and he's done a wonderful job on Twitter slash X, expanding his profile, even has an advertiser as he talks about where Canada is going. They're creeping. It's the Canadian creep towards CBDC and universal basic income. Let's see what he has to say. Universal basic income is coming to Canada. Will the U.S. be next? I've been warning of a UBI, universal basic income, for a while now since that is where we are in the fall of Rome sequence. Recently, Canada's left-wing liberals proposed just such a scheme, dubbed the, quote, guaranteed livable basic income.

Lest one think it's just the liberals who've gone mad, Canada's Conservative Party deputy leader then spoke warmly of it, saying Conservatives should own it. So in all likelihood, it's coming. First off, what is a UBI? The idea is to give everybody just enough to get by whether or not they work. A typical number might be $1,000 per month. Supporters claim people will still work, which is hilarious, more on that in a moment. And many Conservatives, such as the deputy leader, have been suckered with promises that it will replace the existing welfare state, which of course is a lie. New welfare schemes are often sold that way, including the EITC here in the US, which was sold as a negative income tax. That would replace welfare as we know it. But of course, that never happened. The extra trillions just went on top because it turns out that handing free money is like salting a soup. It's easy to add. It's very,

very hard to take away. Beyond the bait and switch, why is AUBI so bad? Probably because the cost is raid the treasury level, so perhaps $3 trillion per year in the US, but mostly because it would radically expand our growing army of permanently unemployed couchsurfing parasites who do little work beyond voting for more welfare. To see why, consider two similar phenomena today, unemployment benefits and pensions. Two years ago, the New York Times put out a major time use survey, finding that while full-time workers spend five hours a day at work, unemployed people on benefits spend just 30 minutes a day looking for work. So how do they spend the other four and a half hours? Watching TV, napping, surfing the internet, playing games,

and hanging out with their girlfriend. So that's a 90% drop in work. We've got similar numbers from retirement. Once Americans hit that magic 65 line, the Bureau of Labor Statistics tallied up the number of seniors working. That came out to 8 percent working full time, 7 percent working part time, which compares to 63 percent of the general population. So in that case, it's an 80% drop. Beyond the extortionate taxes on the few who still would work, the main victims would be the young, who will be bribed out of entry-level jobs, ushered into a life of quasi-poverty, doing nothing, having nothing, and complaining about it on TikTok. So what's next? Brought to you by Unchained.

Vote buying has been popular since at least the Roman Empire, who put the bread in bread and circuses. And it's driven the country to ruin since at least the Roman Empire. But the political calculus is irresistible, all those millions of juicy votes. Now, COVID was the test case in Canada and in many other countries. And the next recession, you can be sure they will push it hard here in america as for long-suffering canadians it looks like it will get worse before it gets better okay we'll be watching thank you pete st onge and uh the twitterverse had some pretty good comments here just want to mention they they do note that canada is not implementing a universal basic income yet and

they just point this out. This isn't really contradictory to what Peter St. Ons just said. One senator and one MP have bills that instruct the finance minister to develop a framework report on UBI. That is correct. Neither bill mentions a specific dollar amount nor directly implements UBI, but they are getting closer. And it's extremely important to keep it in mind, of course, because Canada is such a fantastic nation state. The government there is so awesome that let's not forget they celebrated a WAP and SS trooper. All right.

That's great. That's just awesome stuff, isn't it? Oh, and they did that while also, yeah, that's right. In the house, they had Vlado Zolinski. There he is right there hanging out because, you know, the Nazis of the Azov Battalion and the Slobodan party, like Ole Tianybak, with whom John McCain and Lindsey Graham met Joe Biden. There were pictures of him shaking hands with Ole Tianybak. He was mentioned in that conversation between Jeffrey Pyatt and Victoria Nuland, in that infamous 2014 F the EU recording that was gotten from their cell phones,

as they were putting together the government that the United States and NATO and the Atlantic Council wanted, put in after the United States was involved with the overthrow of the Ukrainian government in 2013 in the Maidan coup. Isn't that great? That's what a, what a, just cheery all the way. You can't go wrong. Boy, you, you want some fun, just go up to Canada. That'll remind you of the good old days. And yes, a lot of people don't know that Canada is still actually part of the British empire. That's why in order to institute the emergency thing, they have to go with, I can't remember what it's called something like the, the royalty in council or, or there's something like that, or the King or the Queen in

council. And it's a, it's a representative from the British, British government who is part of the Canadian government and they have to get final approval from this person. It's really weird. But even then, even if they get the final approval to go with emergencies, which Justin Trudeau didn't even wait. He just sent those horses out to trample people like you saw from Rebel News, trampling a 76-year-old native Indian Canadian woman. Yeah, that sort of thing uh tramp uh uh pummeling

hitting one of the rebel news reporters um and you can see the welt on her leg later um he just went and did it he didn't even wait for the for the canadian parliament to approve it maybe that was because they were too busy you know thinking about making their plans to bring in volodymyr zelinsky and uh and a nazi you know that's i don't know you know i'm just thinking about making their plans to bring in Volodymyr Zelensky and a Nazi. You know, that's I don't know. You know, I'm just thinking about that. But hey, you know, we have to remember he was just following orders. Right.

Well, let's keep that in mind as we turn right now to a follow up to something that we got to discuss yesterday with James Bovard. And I'll mention again, just real quick, if you get the opportunity, by the way, oh, and thank you everyone for your really nice comments about the conversation with James Bovard on yesterday's David Knight Show. I'm Gardner Goldsmith filling in for David. And yesterday I had my friend,

a man that used to be just one of my heroes. Now he's one of my friends over the past, you know, 20 years so, I've, you know, incredibly immoral and unconstitutional. I've got a lot of bookmarks in here. I get to ask them a lot of good questions, I thought, hopefully. And thanks for your responses. You know, I wanted to try to pick sections that I thought people might say, oh, wow, you know, that's really, and there's even more there, but you're limited for time. So I thought we did a pretty good job. And and I hope you'll get that. It's it's published by the Libertarian Institute and they've also just published a new book by Tom Woods. And it's called Diary of a Psychosis. And it's, of course, about the lockdown mentality, the jab mentality and all that stuff.

And so now I want to turn to our friend Glenn Jacobs, because James and I both discussed what Glenn posted on Twitter slash X yesterday. Glenn, of course, used to live up in New Hampshire, former pro wrestler, went as the character Kane, has been in this house numerous times and had to stoop through the doorway because he's so huge. And I remember one time we walked down to get pizza down at this little store down in our town and he just, he's so huge. He can't escape his own physicality. It's not just that he's a celebrity. Um, but it's that, you know, his body is so big, even if he tried to hide his identity, people would be looking at him, you know? Uh, it's, it's a, it must be a weird existence. It's very strange. I existence. I guess you get used to it. You don't know anything

different after a while, but very odd. It's different. But he posted this, and I'll read it to you in case you're listening. He says, Deborah Burks came to Knoxville in September of 2020. In a private meeting, she told us that bars and restaurants should be closed. She admitted the data didn't support it, but said it was necessary to send a message about the seriousness of the virus. That's marketing, not science. And of course, up in Canada, the restricted travel between the provinces. But I did not discuss, and James and I

did not discuss yesterday on the program, the post that inspired Glenn to post that information about that private meeting or closed door government official meeting, because Glenn is now the mayor of Knox County in Tennessee. This came from Kevin Bass. Kevin Bass is an outspoken guy whose motto is live not by lies. The Solzhenitsyn line. He's been on Tucker Carlson's show. He's been published in Newsweek.

And he's been speaking up about Deborah Birx and what is in her book. Now, we've heard about these things before, so I just want to give you another little echo, little reminder to carry this information with us, and hopefully people won't forget this stuff. As Tom Woods publishes his book, Time Goes By, just like 9-11, things start to recede in the past. The wrongdoers, should they get away with this sort of stuff? How do we call them to task? How do we keep the fire going? Well, at least we can talk about it, right?

At least we can keep telling the truth. Do not live, live not by lies. Well, Kevin Bass, and hats off to Kevin, says Deborah Birx from her memoir, explaining how, quote, two weeks to flatten the curve was just marketing for harsh months-long lockdowns that she was already planning. Quote, on Monday and Tuesday, March 9th and 10th, 2020, we worked simultaneously to develop the flatten the curve guidance I hoped to present to the vice president at week's end. Let's just pause there and mention that that was the exact wrong thing to do. Precisely wrong.

And it runs, even if it were, even if it had been right, it runs counter to freedom. On two levels. First, the areas where you run into conflict, where people start to argue about what the health policy policy should be, are public tax funded areas. They combine everybody and it causes what's called the tragedy of the commons, where everyone has different or slightly different opinions. Maybe some people might agree, but most people will disagree about exactly how that government tax funded resource is going to be utilized or should be utilized, right? You can't reveal your preferences through the market because you're forced to pay for it. So everybody, it causes dissension and argumentation. That to me is not unity. That's being forced together in a corral. That's like putting hungry rats together in a box and seeing what happens.

That's the state. They put you in the box. They wanted to put everybody in their homes. As Jay Bhattacharya, who wrote the introduction, the forward to Tom Woods' new book, Diary of a Psychosis, also published by the Libertarian Institute, my friend Sheldon Richmond, one of the people who started it, Scott Horton on the board, he also helped start it. The idea of shutting things down and locking people down, putting them in their homes, the people like Jay Bhattacharya and the Great Barrington signers, Great Barrington Declaration signers said, no, that's the wrong way to do it. You don't rely on unreliable jabs to get endemic status, some sort of what you think is herd immunity. You're not going to get herd immunity through so-called vaccinations, jabs,

because first there's a time factor on, first there's a question on how effective they are. And then if you are giving people a false notion of security, they're now out there and could be contagious. What did we hear? We heard, well, this is amazing. For the first time, we're actually finding that in people's noses, they have just as much of the viral material after they've been jabbed.

Yeah, that's because they weren't working. And we're finding for the first time, asymptomatic spread. Oh, you mean maybe people are getting symptoms after they got jabbed because the jabs aren't working, so they're getting sick. Maybe there's also a problem with the jabs themselves. Maybe that's actually the bigger problem long-term. And if you actually just allowed people to deal with what you say is this incredibly deadly virus, which had a 94.6% survival rate across all age quintiles combined and a near zero rate for people under 18. Maybe if you had just allowed, as the people at the Great Barrington Declaration had signed, the healthy people, maybe if you had just said, I'm not going to mess with people, not even allowed, maybe if you had just gotten out of it and let people decide for themselves, suggested that healthy people go out, get their natural immunity

by acquiring the virus and building up their long-term cells for viral intervention, their T cells, then maybe you could then see the elderly and more frail people who were at home come out and you would have herd immunity and a lower chance of those frail people contracting the virus. Maybe that would be it. But you didn't do it that way. You said we've got to flatten the curve beforehand. You said the hospitals were going to be overrun. You lied and told people the hospitals were overrun when people were going out with cameras

and finding, no, they weren't. When hospital orderlies, nurses, and doctors were doing flash dances and line dances, flash mob routines that clearly had to have been choreographed. Where'd they get the time i thought they were dealing with all these dying patients when in fact if you look at and compare the flu deaths to the so-called covid deaths it's almost as if covid was a label that they put on the seasonal flu the other problem with the vaccines is not just whether or not they're reliable, but it's the timeframe in which people get the vaccines and how long the vaccines work. You have two temporal factors there.

One is how long will they work to go backwards? We don't know. And of course, with these, we saw week after week, they kept saying, well, you know, it turns out as the former head of the CDC, Walensky, told us, well, yeah, now we can't really say that they're reliable in any way that they fight anything. Of course not. And then there's the time factor of when are people getting these shots, right? So some people might get the shots and then later, are they now still immune? How about people who got it six months later? Should they be the only ones allowed out in the future once their immunity wears off?

And even now, the federal government, as Russell Brand has mentioned on his show, and I mentioned it on my show on Liberty Conspiracy, they're putting out PSAs telling people that natural immunity doesn't last. That is the thing that lasts. That's the point. So we'll go back to Deborah Birx and her lies. admitting in her memoir, on Monday and Tuesday, March 9th and 10th of 2020, we worked simultaneously to develop the flatten the curve guidance I hope to present to the vice president at week's end, which was the exact wrong thing to do. Getting buy-in on the simple mitigation measures every American could take was just the first step leading to longer and more aggressive interventions. We had to make these palatable to the administration by avoiding the obvious appearance of a full Italian lockdown.

No sooner had we convinced the Trump administration to implement our version of a two-week shutdown than I was trying to figure out how to extend it. Yes, were you telling people about that, Debra? 15 days to slow the spread was a start, but I knew it would be just that. I didn't have the numbers in front of me yet to make the case for extending it longer, but I had two weeks to get them. Well, you weren't going to get those numbers because they weren't real. And Glenn Jacobs pointed out in the meeting that they weren't real. And you said, well, yeah, we know that. It's marketing, as Glenn said, not science. It's fear mongering might be a better word. And of course, the final point is, if one wants to look at the nexus

between freedom, health, so-called public health, and the government, as David has said, and as I have said, there is no such thing as public health. There's no such thing as public safety or public security. That's the state telling you that your security can be sacrificed for what they say is the good of all. That's the state telling every individual, you are always an individual. You don't blend into some gelatinous mass when you're out amongst people in this area or that area, or you're part of this demographic group or that demographic group, or whatever the politicians want to fascistly and facetiously tell you you are part of. You are an individual. There is only individual health. And the idea that the government can then impose its will on you,

whether it's by taking your money or taking your opportunities or forcing you to stay inside, taking your other liberties, so-called for the protection of the public health means that every individual who remains an individual is always a target for the government, which then undercuts the very logic of the government saying that they're working for so-called public health. Because if everyone can be a potential victim, that means that the agent of threat is actually the state, the government, that claims that for everyone, everyone can be a potential victim. That's a QED. It's a non-starter, logically. Aristotle could have talked about that.

You could get this in a sixth grade logic class. But politicians don't seem to get it. They love to put that rhetoric out there. They love to promote, well, it's for the public. It's just like the Marxist, neo-Marxist, cultural Marxist idea of always finding the little guy. are a danger. The Karens out there in politics are going to call the cops if you're walking your dog without a mask. The little guy has to be protected. That person who's frail and invalid, they've got to be protected by force, not choice. And this is the final point that I'll make. As a free market proponent, I try to stress the importance of private property and individual choice revealing preferences. We don't know how much security people want when it comes to viruses unless we let them choose.

And the only way that we can let them choose is to let them control their property and their interactions. So the less often you have these public places where everybody's opinions are thrown together into the tragedy of the commons, the smaller these areas of political control, the better it is. And if you can pare away even those small areas of political control, if you go to private property, then you get real individuals choosing, do I want to go into that shop? I wonder what they're like. What's their security protocol? How much information do I have on the threat? As people see other people interacting and what happens to them, they start to say, well, do I want to go into that home?

What's it like? Do I want to stay in that hotel? What are the locks on the doors like? What's their cleanliness like? Do I want to eat at that hotel? What are the locks on the doors like? What's their cleanliness like? Do I want to eat at that restaurant? What's their reputation like? Have I been invited to a party? What's that person like?

Do I go to this private school? What's their policy like? Do they protect kids? Do they have gender neutral bathrooms? Right? Not imposed on everybody, but choices. Toy stores. What's in the toy store? Revealing preferences, rising and falling based on what you're offering. If you had private property rather than government run areas, then people could say, this is my viral

security protocol. This is what it's like. Do you want to come in? Do you not want to come in? You can actually ask. And if you're not asking, you're not that interested, that's not my fault. I shouldn't be charged with that. That's up to you. The more often you have these voluntary areas of interaction, the more often you can see the results of people's own choices. And every time someone leaves one of those private arrangements, those private situations, they can then enter into a new one. And every time that happens, you see the manifestation of everyone's interests. Those security protocols are brought up. But with government, it's one size fits all. You can't have variation. You can't have experimentation. That's exactly what Deborah Burks was pushing. And now let's hear from Naomi Wolf. Good job, Glenn Jacobs, getting that

information out. Here's Naomi Wolf, who's grown tremendously. As I mentioned, when we were talking with James Bovard yesterday, James and I were both at a Free State Project conference here in New Hampshire. I think it was a year after I was speaking, Glenn was speaking, Naomi Wolf and James Bovard came up. They were guests and had a great conversation with both of them. And Naomi was, you know, she was very, very much on the feminist issues, that sort of thing that were maybe typical sort of feminist things, very much in favor of free speech and that sort of stuff. But she had not really dug down into some of the agendas of the leftists and the cloaks that they wore supposedly supporting freedom when they were

actually for statism and trying to portray people in a gaslight way who might oppose the growth of the state, trying to portray them as against the little guy when actually they were not in favor of the little guy, those people who promoted the state. Well, Naomi Wolf posts this. She says, stunning admission. It's a repost from Eric Hartman. She says, yeah, okay. We really weren't thinking about what would happen after we helped to load those people into those box cars. Of course, she's reminiscing, bringing back thoughts about criticism of Nazi Germany, of course, very appropriate here. The public health mindset is very narrow, she said. That's because public health doesn't care about the individual. It only cares about the state. I want to go to this original post as we see Francis Collins, who was caught secretly communicating with Anthony Fauci

on how they would counter Jay Bhattacharya and the others from the Great Barrington Declaration, who were giving what was solid, traditional medical advice and proved to have been correct. Do the regular idea of leaving people free to associate with each other. Let the healthy people do what they want. Suggest that the more frail stay inside until you get to a number of people who have contracted the virus, have been healthy, and now have natural immunity. Let's see what Francis Collins, this is of course years now after he wrote secret messages to Anthony Fauci,

but we discovered them. Thank you. Let's see what Eric Hartman has to say. And here is Francis Collins. What a guy. As a guy living inside the Beltway, feeling this sense of crisis, trying to decide what to do in some situation room in the White House with people who had data that was incomplete. We weren't really thinking about what that would mean to Wilk and his family in Minnesota, a thousand miles away from where the virus was hitting so hard. We weren't really considering the consequences in communities that were not New York City or some other big city. The public health people, we talked about this earlier, and this is a really important point. If you're a public health person and you're trying to make a decision, you have this very narrow view of what the right decision is, and that is something that will save a life.

Doesn't matter what else happens. So you attach infinite value to stopping the disease and saving a life. You attach a zero value to whether this actually totally disrupts people's lives, ruins the economy, and has many kids kept out of school in a way that they never quite recover from. Collateral damage. So there, yeah, collateral damage. This is a public health mindset. And I think a lot of us involved in trying to make those recommendations had that mindset, and that was really unfortunate. That's another mistake. Okay. All right. That collateral damage attitude, that's going to feed into our topic for the last hour, and that is going to be Douglas Murray and the callous attitude, the term, well, it's war. I don't think you understand. Innocent people get killed in war. No, actually, the traditional rules of war with

a capital W, as it is written in the U.S. Constitution, are that you don't kill civilians. There isn't a term collateral damage in the traditional view of war. And yes, there were exceptions that cropped up, but that was supposedly the deal in war. The people who signed on to fight for the monarchs, people got hired, the knights, the soldiers, they were the ones who put themselves at risk. And innocent people were supposed to be left out of it because it was state on state. People like Francis Collins represent a new kind of war criminal. Liars, cheaters, after the facts, excusing it. Well, it's public health, just like I said. You can be sacrificed.

And they reverse it. They flip it to say, well, if we can just save one life. Well, what you're doing is you are creating a situation where people who might want to handle their own lives can't be allowed to do so. You're destroying lives. That's what you're doing. And moreover, even if his decisions were right, even if all these decisions might have actually been the right way to go, which we knew right at the start they weren't. That's one of the reasons why NewsGuard was going after us at MRCTV, because I was publishing stuff at the start of the pandemic, so-called, that ran counter. So they were trying to silence us. MRCTV got shut off of YouTube often, had to come back. Luckily, they have teams of lawyers working for them. And, you know, we weren't going to change our perspective on these things. So Francis Collins represents not just bad decision making. But the immoral idea that there can be a government decision maker, because the only way the government decision makers get their money is by forcing people to pay for it.

So all of it, all of it stems from immorality. So when we talk about Francis Collins, I'm reminded of something. I'd like to give this to you. Some folks asked me a little while ago, and this might seem a little tangential, but some folks asked me a little while ago, hey, Gard, why don't you talk about your fiction stuff? I said, oh, yeah, you know, I don't do that. So there's some fiction over at Amazon. The first novella that I got It's called Bite. And in it, at the back of it, there's a short story. And it's called Sigil. I'd like to read this to you. Let me know what you think. What can I express about this strange phenomenon that will not inspire within you merely a subtle sense of disquiet rather than utter uncontrollable dread.

To you, the tale I intend to recount will seem a trifle, the most ordinary of occurrences, dismissible as a simple twist of fate or the combination of average circumstances as seen through an old man's paranoid dementia. But to me, the witness of these preternatural events, it is a story so horrific as to implicate the devil himself. In my lonely and solitary existence here in New England, I have endeavored to trouble no one. The pale and silent snows of winter blanket my surroundings, delivering peace and tranquility to my once tormented soul. They bring to mind the deep arboreal stillness of my homeland, where a man might walk for miles and encounter no one. His companions, mute and unmoving, would consist of the majestic furs and brooding oaks, and the crisp air would fill his lungs and caress his skin. Invigorated and enlivened, he would march with a bounce to his step, planting his boots in the snow and delighting in the crunch of one against the other.

I can recall with vivid clarity the varied colors of the wood, the deep green of the pines, and the pearly white of the other. I can recall with vivid clarity the varied colors of the wood, the deep green of the pines, and the pearly white of the snow, the somber browns of the shadow-filled valleys, and the ghostly gray of my own breath billowing into the air. The frosted canopy had its own wonderful presence, and I encountered it like a subject does his king, with heartfelt and profound reverence. Many years have passed since then, the days and trying times accruing like layers of tarnish on silver, but the brilliance of those memories remains, of a time when I was young and vital, standing alongside my friends in a great and noble struggle. Tragically, almost all of them are gone now, buried beneath those knee-deep snows,

their pale bones turning to dust in unremarkable graves. It is all too clear that I cannot return to see them, but I do have my memories. Although my loneliness is sometimes profound, I can relive those halcyon days by exercising my mind and thumbing through my careworn diary. My recollections from that time are set down in some 180 pages in an almost unintelligible script, written with an uncooperative fountain pen over the course of three years. The sheets themselves are yellowing and delicate, like centuries-old vellum, and bound in a brown leather cover, embossed with the glorious seal of my people. It may seem to you that all these images are rather sedate and bucolic. A cottage in the woods, the drifting snow, a cherished diary.

Had I not experienced what I have, I might be inclined to agree. But such a judgment could not be further from the truth. Think me mad if you must. But it is these very underpinnings of my ordinary world that have conspired to drive me to paroxysms of fear, the sort of chill terror that is unvanquishable and unrelenting. Winter evenings here can be very cold. The air can numb one's skin, and great harm can be dealt the delicate constitution of an old man. I, therefore, wisely retire early, retreating to my familiar rocker by the fire, where I wrap myself in homespun Yankee blankets and contemplate the leaping flames.

How lively they are at times, rising up as if to engulf my entire world. Their lambent orange glow is more than sufficient to illuminate the I scan the pages and remember, a curious sensation of warmth o'erspreads my aged form, bringing with it contentedness and lethargy. The scribbled words speak clearly to me from long ago, telling those familiar stories I hold so dear, and I cannot help but feel a pang of emotion upon reading them. Occasionally, I am even driven to weep. Perhaps it was the salt water coalescing in my eyes, or a manifestation of my failing sight. But three nights ago, as I felt slumber coming on, something most peculiar occurred. The fire was slowly dying, its light retreating to the interior of the wood, and I sat content in my warm and comfortable chair. I had been fighting off drowsiness with an ever-weakening resolve, hoping to finish a particular chapter written in

1942. Had I been a younger man, perhaps I would have stayed awake, listening to the howl of the frigid wind. But as it happened, my head began to nod, my chin to rest on my shrunken chest, and my eyes to close. It was then when I was most susceptible that it happened. As I tried to remain awake a moment longer, the letters on the page seemed to move, shifting ever so slightly. I dazedly blinked and came back to myself, but the odd moment had passed, and there being nothing remarkable to see, my eyes quickly lost their focus. I proceeded to fall into a deep, uninterrupted sleep. This sequence of events occurred on the night following as well, in precisely the same

manner, under entirely similar circumstances. The fire had expired, the room had grown dim, and the grieving furies wailed like tormented souls outside my little cabin. But what my eyes beheld this time, as I retained that final bit of self-awareness, made me jerk awkwardly to life. The ink had blurred and moved as surely as I breathed, and, most unholy of all, a word had appeared. I stared at the faded script on the page, but, like quicksilver, the message was gone. I was left with only an impression of what had been, a fleeting impartation of something horrid and unspeakable. The diary invited further investigation, but I could not bring myself to read it, to read what I knew to be the simple recollections of a young man. I shivered

convulsively, and, suddenly aware of my age and solitude, I sought the refuge of my bed. When I awoke this morning, all memory of that uncanny experience had vanished from my mind. The day was bright and sparkling with possibilities, and although I first drifted about absentmindedly, as if there were something important that required my attention, I quickly shed my listlessness in favor of a stroll through the woods and some late afternoon hours spent collecting fuel for the fire. I returned to the cottage tired but contented and recalled with a smile those days I had exhausted myself in the service of my country, marching back and forth along the stark, frozen perimeter of our camp.

A hot meal of beef stew and a touch of sherry to rekindle my heart, and I was ready to recline by the hearth. My belly was full and my spirits were high. But as I settled into the old rocker with my diary in hand, a strange sense of unease seized upon me. It was slow to comprehend, building ever so gradually, but it palpably existed nonetheless. The twilight and the glow of the fire reminded me of something, something from the previous night that I should have recalled, but could not. Like a half-forgotten dream, it was a word. A word. I must have

slipped into an uneasy sleep then, for when I opened my eyes sometime later, the fire had died. Outside, the pale face of the moon shone just over the blackened tips of the trees, and it cast strange shadows on the floor. Perhaps I was still in a dreamlike daze, but looking at those otherworldly designs, I felt a peculiar chill grip me, as if something most foul had found deliverance from the grave and touched me with its cold and lifeless hand. I rose, gripping my diary to my chest, and hastened toward my bed, where I thought I might find peace. I moved stiffly, without much grace, my thin legs weak and unsteady. Coming to rest upon the mattress, I laid my diary down on the night table and slipped beneath the covers. I shut my eyes and for some time sought the intoxicating nectar of sleep.

It remained elusive. The moon rose higher, and my unease grew. I felt that the letters in my diary had tried to tell me something. I knew it was a warning, a premonition of the future. Of that, I was certain staring into the gloom. My body lay before me, spent and emaciated, covered by blankets as if by a death shroud, repulsing me, reminding me of them. Confused, I turned away. I tried to avert my gaze, but my eyes fixed on the blanched flooring of the room as I listened more closely to the howls beyond the walls. The howls like tormented souls. And I understood. The moonlight shining garishly through the twisted limbs of the denuded forest slid slowly across the old planking of the floor. And in the swirling grain of the faded pine, I saw their faces, twisted and tortured, screaming at me like inhuman beasts, their mouths tearing apart, eyes bursting with fear.

They were the faces of the past, the faces of the camp, and I had seen them all. Before I fell asleep, I ventured one last look at my diary, at the cursed black insignia emblazoned on its cover, And I knew the word I had read. I closed my eyes. The word was hell. So that's for you, Francis Collins. Hope you enjoyed it. That's for you, soldiers who go out and commit war crimes.

That's for you, former Waffen SS trooper. May you ask for forgiveness for your soul. That's for you, Anthony Fauci, Donald Trump, EcoHealth Alliance, Paul Zazak. That's for you, even U.S. soldiers, to be reminded, and perhaps a less forceful tone. Like Lieutenant Christian or Christmas, Brian Christmas, 20 years ago in the poppy fields of Afghanistan. You took an oath. You took an oath to the U.S. Constitution, and it doesn't allow that. It doesn't allow any soldiers to be stationed outside the United States unless there's a declaration of war with a capital W.

War with a capital W. It has rules. The Constitution has rules. I'm an anarchist. I never signed the Constitution. But you who enter the government offices, you swear oaths. And you flout those oaths all the time. You use them like toilet paper. You coerce, you push people around, you become fascists. Someday you must answer for this. Save yourself. Let's hop into Rockfin chat. Thank you for being there, one and all. I'm Gardner Goldsmith filling in for David Knight. And I want to thank, let's see, oh,

over Greg Talent gave a tip over at Rockfin. Thank you, Greg. Appreciate it. Really, really appreciate it, especially because I'm filling in for David, but in a way I'm also filling in for Tony because Tony's ill today. So Tony Arterburn of Wise Wolf Gold and Silver Exchange was going to be here, but he just can't do it. So I said, you know what? We were texting this morning. I said, yeah, I'll love to be there with the audience. It'd be terrific. It's a great opportunity for me. And hopefully we get to share some good info. So feel free to offer your comments in Rockfin and Rumble chat. And of course, share, hit the thumbs up, share this with as many people as you can. And Harps from Australia. Hello,

Harps. You know what I'm talking about. Big time, Harps. Harps knows more about the United States Constitution as a guy coming from Australia than most American politicians. I'd say 99% of them. It's amazing. Harps, thank you very much. He says, guard means business over at Rockfin. So right. And Brian Deb McCartney, two, two, two viewers in one says, oh, wondering where Tony was. Yeah. Tony texted this morning. He says he just, he was too sick. Can in one says, oh, wondering where Tony was. Yeah. Tony texted this morning. He says he just, he was too sick. Can't do it. So, and Tony's such a good guy. And Stephen Caspar. Thank you, Stephen. Appreciate it. Michael Pomeroy, prayer signs for Tony. Absolutely, everybody. Let's pray for good things to happen to Tony getting better. And thanks again for being so welcoming to me. I really, really appreciate it.

I'm looking at Rumble Chat now. Stealth Patriot says, guard, you better watch how much you read. Joe Biden might plagiarize you. Or maybe it'd be the head of Harvard, Ms. Gay. Now that she has not come out strong enough in favor of the Zionist state of Israel, now they can knock her out of that position for plagiarism and paraphrasing so many people, right? So, so true. Dougalug over at Rumble, thank you so much. Go, guard, go. Give them hell. Thank you so much. And Grammy for God says, feel better, Tony. And Owen61 says, Guard makes a killer smash burger. Thanks, man.

I appreciate it. Thank you all for being so much fun. Boy, it's great. And remember, while I'm filling in for David, I do want to mention again, not too much. You try to find the right number of times to mention it. But go to the David Knight show.com. out about the the store david night show store you can support david night on on subscribe star uh and of course you can contribute uh right now anytime uh if you if you're watching if you like what's going on you like the people who are sort of the support team

and you know big fans of david and love what he does. He is the apex. Head over to Rumble or Rockfin and you could drop a donation there, just like we saw over at Rockfin just a little while ago, which was incredibly generous and very, very nice of a great talent to do so. So let me thank you all. And now I do want to turn actually back to Rockfin in just a couple minutes. Let me give you a quick update about what's going on with Elon Musk and free speech. You talk about Joe Biden, plagiarism. Yes, indeed. He did plagiarize Neil Kinnock. He also got caught for plagiarism in law school. And yeah, now he's president of the United States. So I think we can see that being president of the United States is in no way a reflection of someone's character being good.

That's for darn sure. So here's what's going on in the EU, everybody. And I'll take my lovely mug off the screen a little, make it a little smaller and show you this. This comes from Article 19, Digital Services Act infringement in the EU. Now, this story came out over a week ago, but I missed it. So I apologize. I didn't see it. I better allow all those cookies.

Good. Yeah. So Elon Musk is coming up to it right now, folks. On December 18th, or on 18 December, as they'd say in Europe, the European Union formally opened infringement proceedings into social media platform X, formerly known as Twitter, over potential breaches of a number of provisions of the Digital Services Act. Now, remember, they've got a bit of a variation of this now that they've opened up the online security act or online safety act, which is an expansion of offcom in the uk even though britain

has supposedly disconnected from the eu and it's taking forever and it's not really disconnected through defense arrangements and things like that um the british government has this thing called offcom and offcom is basically a panel of bureaucrats that supposedly come from the telecommunications over the air industry for news and broadcasting. And they can just arbitrarily decide that some broadcaster has breached their standards of conduct, whatever that might be, for so-called malinformation or misinformation. And so rather than going through it surreptitiously through things like the Portman Murphy Act and backdoors to Facebook and the FBI paying Twitter $3 million to suppress our statements about elections or the cowabunga virus or the jabs, rather than doing it that way, they just overtly at Ofcom say, well, you broadcasters, you're going to be fine now. Sort of like the FCC, essentially. Incredibly fascist, incredibly immoral, and telling people this is how you're going to run your business.

Yeah, I think we've seen it. It's manifested everything from toy stores to broadcasters. They claim, well, it's the public airwaves. No, they're not the public airwaves. Of course, then you're causing the tragedy of the commons. Maybe some people want swearing online. How much swearing? How many per hours? We don't know. We have to let the market decide that. It's sort of like when they want to put labels on records. You wouldn't see Stephen King, and I mentioned him before, claiming that the government should run books because there's a limited amount of paper products that you can put out at any given time without cutting down all the trees. And yet they claim that because the broadcast spectrum is limited, somehow the government's got to control that. You could apply the same logic to books and papers, right? When you didn't have the electronic medium of publishing. But they try to do this now with electronic publishing, and they're doing this in England now with this online safety thing,

which is now taking the Ofcom principle and applying it to any platform that is online and internet service providers. Liz Warren wants to do the same thing in the United States. And she's teaming up with none other, wink, wink, yes, very exciting, than with Lindsey Graham. And they literally want to force people

who are going to be opening up websites that have larger numbers of people visiting them. How that's going to happen, I don't know. They're going to have to get licensed by the government, just like the FCC will dole out or not dole out licenses to people because they've got their equivalent to this, which is their Digital Services Act. Because the EU originally was started as a supposed free market, free exchange, pulling down the tariffs between the nation states idea. And what happened? It became a bureaucracy, a mechanism of government control. So they say they're going to be opening their proceedings over potential breaches of a number of provisions of the Digital Services Act. Article 19 of the act supports robust enforcement of the DSA and the commission's efforts to so-called ensure that X fully complies with its obligations because they just call them obligations now. They make that up. They say, well, you've got obligations now. No, they're impositions. An obligation is something I take on myself and I recognize morally. An imposition is a threat. Ah, regulations, back to the mafia. Well, let's go to the expose and see what else they have to say about this. Patricia Herity wrote on December 20th, right here,

ah, there's that woman, Van der Leyen, who was in secret communications with the head of Pfizer as they were getting ready to buy all their EU jabs. You know, afterwards they found out, thanks to that Dutch EU parliament member, Mr. Roos, that Ms. Small, what was it, Janine Smalls or Bertrice Smalls, said that they, we didn't know what was going to work or not because we had to move by the speed of science. The speed of science. Oh, that's a nice euphemism for fascist purchase of our drug and make billions of dollars. I get it. Here it is from the expose. It's expose hyphen news. If you're looking for it, the European Union has vowed to permanently shut down X. If Elon Musk doesn't immediately ban alternative media from the platform, what does that mean?

Well, perhaps InfoWars and others, they mentioned AJ Alex here. Alex Jones is calling for us to defend Musk and seems to think that the unelected body has launched this plan to silence Americans ahead of the 2024 election. Well, perhaps he's right and says this amounts to a foreign coup. Well, you know, okay, maybe, maybe not. They have him quoted there. On Monday, the EU announced it was launching the formal infringement proceedings against X over a recently implemented law intended to crack down on independent media. The announcement of the probe comes weeks after X, formerly Twitter, was asked to provide assurances that it was complying with the terms of the European bloc's Digital Services Act. Under the law, the threat, which came into effect in August, a company can be fined up to 6% of its annual global income

or be banned from operating in the EU if it is found to have breached the sweeping legislation. And they have copies of the legislation right there if you want to see it. And here it is, their quote. Today we open formal infringement proceedings against ex, ex, ex, ex Terry Breton, the EU commissioner. It's amazing. You know, ex can only survive by voluntary payments now that the FBI is not giving them millions of dollars, right? How is Terry Breton paid, this EU commissioner? He's responsible for this. Oh, that's right.

Off the backs of other people. Breton added that the move had been taken in response to a suspected breach of obligations to counter illegal content and disinformation. Suspected breach of transparency obligations. You away from Musk. They'll invade somebody's house. His last name will be Tusk. Because that's the way it started in Brazil. A fly landed on the typewriter for the warrant. Not even warrant. The order to go after this guy named Tuttle. And they went after a guy named Buttle instead.

Whoops. Oh, man. Terry Gilliam showing the evil and the unworkable craziness at the same time, the absurdity of evil. Amazing. You know, thinking about the EU, I'm wondering, do you think they'll suppress independent voices like David Knight like this? You think they'll stop Rockfin and Rumble the way Rumble is being stopped in Brazil? And why? Greenwald, Russell Brand, Redacted, Kim Iverson, Jimmy Dore. Strangely, curiously, they're all people who have exposed the jabs. They're all people who have opposed the WHO. They're all people who have called for decentralization, a return to smaller governments and more freedom, privacy and free speech. Isn't that curious? Even left wingers like Glenn Greenwald and former left wingers and still in many cases left wingers like Russell Brand. Jimmy Dore, left wing stand up comedian.

He wants universal health care. Perhaps he'll learn even on that part that you don't want that. We've seen what the trappings of universal health care do when they're calling for controlling your health care through jabs and lockdowns and things. And I don't see how you're going to be able to separate those. But they have been very outspoken about war. You think this website will be shut down from tweeting if the EU has its way?

The website called antiwar.com. How about the Libertarian Institute where Scott Horton was very, very involved and he's been very involved in antiwar? Just, you know, people like us. Pushing for peace, right? Well, here is a little bit of what I mentioned earlier about. Douglas Murray's attitude and the attitude of the very people who helped promote Hamas to run the Palestinian state, so-called the Palestinian corral in Gaza, where they have had an ever-decreasing size for the people to live as Israel has moved further and further north, bulldozed homes, brought in their new developments, and corralled people. As Norman Finkelstein has said, there are some people under 18 who have never even left Gaza. They've never left.

Benjamin Netanyahu, who openly on more than one occasion has supported Hamas to lead Gaza because he knew and has said that they would be oppositional and not open to negotiation, which would then give the leadership of Israel a so-called justification for engaging in more military conflict with Hamas. Netanyahu says he's looking for countries to absorb Palestinians from Gaza. They treat them like products, like things, just to be moved around. You just move them anywhere you want. This is from the 26th. I think it's worth reiteration. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said at a meeting of his Likud party on Monday that he's

working to bring about the expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza and looking for countries willing to quote, absorb them. Quote, our problem is countries that are ready to absorb them. Well, who are you to say, to tell other nation states and the people within them that they should absorb anybody? How about leaving people alone? Oh, that's right. You can't distinguish between the hostage takers and the hostages. You killed three hostages and there were Israelis who were being returned and trying to escape, I should say. And you also shot on October 7th, shot people you thought were Hamas fighters, and they turned out to be some of your own soldiers and civilians,

Israeli civilians. You told civilians within Gaza to go south and then started bombing that area. Many of the things that you're claiming about targeting people are undercut by the fact that you're not using so-called smart bombs. And even with the smart bombs, you're killing civilians. What is this idea of collateral damage that Francis Collins fatuously mentions? As if, well, it's just part of the thing. It's for the public, public health, public defense. Maybe there's a different way, Theodoric of York. How about this? Netanyahu vows to expand operations in Gaza, says war isn't close to finished. I want to take a moment to give you the opportunity to hear something that I did last night.

And you'll find it on Rockfin. And I'd love to get your opinions about it, because now I want to turn to Douglas Murray and his appearance on this show called Uncensored, as I flick a couple buttons here. We'll get to that in just a moment. The first thing I want to do is I want to play for you perhaps a little something that you might enjoy from The David Knight Show.

And it is, yes, still a holiday theme. It's a holiday promotion of his fantastic record. Here it is. I'm delighted to present something born from my love for music and the Christmas season. Christmas night is a perfect accompaniment for anything from family gatherings to moments of peaceful reflection. I hope this to provide a fresh take to the soundtrack of Christmas.

This collection of 20 instrumental songs brings new life to timeless Christmas classics. with original orchestrations alongside lesser-known yet equally enchanting carols. For the listeners of The David Knight Show, this is more than music. It's part of our shared journey. Christmas Night is available at thedavidknightshow.com. May it bring a little extra joy and peace to your Christmas season. Thank you for your unwavering support and for joining me in this new musical adventure. Merry Christmas to all and all a good Christmas night. Wonderful stuff. And, you know, I love listening to it because the music in it shows such dexterity and such a facility with musicianship. It just is absolutely remarkable.

And I have to say, it's nice because now that I've gotten older, I think the same thing about writing. I think the same thing about watching films and so on. It allows me to think about and remember the people behind the music. I really find it just wonderful. So I think about David, his, his musicianship, his ability to be able to use the programs and, uh, you know, play, play instruments himself. It's just, it's amazing, just amazing stuff. I absolutely love it. So check it out. I wanted to make sure that, uh, I, I talked about that as I fill in, I'm Gardner Goldsmith, by the way. Uh, you know, you talk about the issues you forget to mention yourself.

Sometimes Gardner Goldsmith, nice to have you here, everyone. Some of you might know my work for MRC TV. That's probably where I get, you know, most of the people who might, you know, recognize some of my pieces or videos or something like that. Occasionally you bump into somebody at the town dump. There's a guy who was like, Hey, I watch your video. Like, Oh dude, good to see you, man. So we talk, he's great. And so it's fun. You make a nice connection, whether it's, you know, person to person or over the Internet. And then you hope you can make more connections by meeting some of the great people in the chat and so on at the David Knight Show. The Rockfin chat in particular.

Very, very close. Really wonderful people. And so many people go off and do their own work for freedom. So thanks, everybody. It's a wonderful family, just like the David Knight family. So thank you. You find my MRC TV work. Again, Liberty Conspiracy,

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do so. That's awkwardly stated. It's at Guard Goldsmith. That's G-A-R-D Goldsmith. So check it out. And yeah, I always forget to mention the fiction, but I've got some novels coming out. As I mentioned, was it yesterday? There's one novel that didn't come out yet because I declined the contract because they wanted me to go by a pseudonym so it would separate me from my political work. And I was like, why would I want to do that? My parents brought me up with these principles. I've expanded on my education.

I've worked hard for this. And I fight for freedom. I'm not afraid to put my fiction out under my name. So you can find three novellas out there. One of them, I do want to warn you, one of them called Fishing has some extreme violence in it. So be very, very careful. Don't give it to like a teenager under 16 or so, 17. Please be aware of that. So, okay. Well, talking about extreme violence, let's now go for a theme. Let's hear from Edwin Starr. Absolutely nothing. Say it again, y'all. Who broke out?

What is it good for? Absolutely nothing. Listen to me. Oh, wow. I despise. Cause to me is destruction. You got it, Edwin Starr. Well done.

What a voice, huh? Boy, that guy's got some voice. Yeah. Well, they tried to fight many of those people who were opposed to the Vietnam so-called war later. Never declared war. They tried. They worked hard. Now, I'd like to show you something that I got to do last night on my program on Liberty Conspiracy. And it has to do with this guy, Douglas Murray. I promised the audience that I would discuss it. I also mentioned it here on David Knight Show. And so I'd like to give this to you as I fill in for David. Tony, Tony Arterburn. And again, please visit David Knight dot gold to check out Wise Wolf Gold and Silver Exchange.

Amazing people, amazing people. And it's a great way to make sure that you retain the value of your labor in silver and gold. You can become part of the Wolfpack and it is really smart. The more people sign into the Wolfpack monthly installments at various levels, the greater the leverage that Tony can have to buy things at a discount. It's very, very smart. And he even has lower shipping than most shippers when you're buying silver or gold. I mean, by easily, you know, by five bucks, six bucks per package. It's amazing. I want to turn to what I got to do last night on Liberty Conspiracy, which is analyze this idea of collateral damage. Well,

it's just war and overlooking many important points about the relationship between Western powers putting the state of Israel there, the difference between being anti-state and anti-Semitic. Palestinians are Semitic peoples. Hasidic Jews in New York, as I mentioned. Jerry Nadler, of all people, is mentioning maybe in the United States you don't want to put forward a in the same way that many of the people who like the No, it's not. Especially right now, it's a bunch of military industrial complex interest involved with making tons and aspect of this, one facet of it. And I tried to be as fair as possible. Douglas Murray appearing against, of all people, Cenk Younger. And I come in on that story that I just mentioned about Netanyahu absorbing the Palestinians. This is from last night's Liberty Conspiracy Show. Side of those people there, the partial genocide of those people there and moving the rest of them out or the genocide of them and the subjugation of all the rest as Israel moves in and takes over.

Netanyahu said the world is, quote, already discussing the possibilities of voluntary immigration and pointed to comments from former U.S. ambassador to the U.N., Nikki Haley, who is currently running for the 2024 Republican presidential nomination. I think she's running on, isn't her platform give Lockheed more money? I think that was her platform. Netanyahu said that a team must be set up to ensure that those who want to leave Gaza to a third country, because who wouldn't want to leave Gaza now that, of course, Israel is making it a death zone, that they be allowed to do so. It needs to be settled. Oh, I see. So everybody else has a responsibility to settle the problem you're frigging creating.

I get it. I get it, Benjamin. That's classic. As you say, of course, right here from December 26, expanding operations in Gaza. There will not be a square inch of that place that is not under Israeli control when this is done. And Joe Biden is supporting it. Well, you know, we've got rules. Jack Kirby. We've got rules and

the way things are supposed to operate. Yeah, they've broken the rules over and over again. They're not abiding by your rules and you keep giving them weapons. Are you going to stop? Well, you know, we've got some rules, so they should abide by those things as we keep giving them the weapons. That's kind of not an answer there, John. Oh, gee, you're right. I get it. Now, let's turn to this. Piers Morgan, Douglas Murray, and Piers Morgan and Cenk Uygur. Now, I have been critical of Cenk. I don't agree with most every position of this man. However, his points are valid. His points are well stated.

And for a long time, he holds his temper as he is assailed personally. His character is assailed over and over and over again. Now, I've questioned his character by going by the name the Young Turks and the Armenian genocide and things like that, right? And I don't like his collectivist philosophy. I believe that sometimes he is a show. I don't know whether he's got CAA money, whatever. I don't know. I do believe he got a lot of money from Soros.

I think that was the case. And I think they blew through a lot of that money. I'll tell you who I do admire, who's no longer with Young Turks. That's Jimmy Dore. Jimmy Dore, I think, still talks with Cenk, but I don't think he got along with them for numerous reasons. So he left, started his own thing, stand-up comic, and has been remarkable on the peace front, talking about the Jabs, got damaged by one of the Jabs, talking about Ukraine, talking about Israel, Hamas, getting some of the best people on you could ever imagine. Just outstanding. I mean, we're talking Glenn Greenwald-level analysis of the news, resources, calling in good people to report, just excellent. That's where I discovered Max

Blumenthal, so many great people, right? Russell Brand doing the same thing, right? So I do want to hand it to Cenk Uygur for holding it together here for so long and providing information as he was assailed by Douglas Murray and Douglas Murray's wonderful flourishes of the English language and his spiteful approach here. And also early on, as he got interrupted, while Douglas Murray was not interrupted, in the beginning of this, what is it, uncensored show, the uncensored show with Piers Morgan. Okay. So this is a British show.

Piers has a sketchy background himself. We know that. And, you know, he loves to get his attention. He's been through good. He's been through bad. He has positives. He has negatives. So he mismanaged a few things at the start, did a little better. Let's check this out, everybody. We're going to pause this. I want to go through some of these points here. And again, let's check this out. Watch this. Here we go. Douglas Murray and Cenk Uygur are on bitterly opposing sides of a debate on Israel's war in Gaza. Millions have watched them passionately articulate their cases on this show, but never together. So tonight on our final show of the year, we've invited these two big brains to debate the big outstanding questions on this conflict. How does the war end? Will Israel face repercussions for the scale of its response to October the 7th as it committed war crimes?

What is the future, if any, for Hamas, for Gaza and for the prospects of a true Palestinian state? Most importantly, how do we get to peace? Well, I'm now joined by the author of The War on the West, Douglas Murray, and by Young Turks founder and democratic presidential challenger, Cenk Uygur. Welcome to both of you. So I've interviewed you both a lot in this war, but not together. And Cenk, I know you felt the other night when you were debating other people, you didn't really get into a debate. And I think that's fair enough. And what I'd like to know today really is be almost a referee if you like between you two to articulate your views and to see if we can reach any points of consensus um so in that spirit let me start with you Douglas um I think you're back in Israel uh is that right

yes I'm in Israel tonight yeah today was a sea of other stories have come out in the last few days, which have been concerning, I think. But anyone who, like me, believes that Israel has not just a moral duty to defend itself, but has a fundamental right to do so after what happened on October the 7th. I said that clearly from the start. It's always been, for me, the issue of proportionality. All right, I want to pause it there, everybody, and just mention once more, there is no Israel in an anthropomorphic sense. Israel, the state, the polis, has no rights. The individuals have rights to defend themselves and voluntarily come up with their own

arrangements for protection. This is just basic axiomatic fundamental philosophy. You can't get around this. A state has no rights. State only exists by crushing the rights of the people from whom it takes the money, thereby impinging their ability to defend themselves and dictating that their defense will then be blended in and argued about rather than them making their own decisions. And they use the excuse of, well, you've got to be preyed upon in order to defend everybody, just like we talk about with public help. Your rights can be sacrificed for the larger majority, which means every individual can be sacrificed for their

determination of the larger majority within the state. Whoever can get the power of the state. That's why everybody wants to get power of the state. The very existence of the state of Israel is an affront to freedom. No state has a right to defend itself. Just keep that in mind. And by the way, any of the soldiers who are out there using weapons that were provided to them via tax money, they don't have a right to use those weapons either. They have a right to defend themselves personally, but if they're sent out with fuel or food or clothing or anything that was gotten through the criminal means of thievery from individuals, forced to pay for it, that's immoral, they shouldn't have those things. They have no right to use them in any way whatsoever. They're the receivers of stolen goods, period. You can't argue about it. They are. Just

because the state might acquiesce to giving them something doesn't mean that it's okay, that it's acceptable. Here's more. And Piers Morgan is making a good point. It's the level of response here as far as from their viewpoint, state versus Hamas state. Something Douglas Murray doesn't seem to remember about the origins of Hamas becoming the leadership state. And it seems that in the last few days, there've been a number of incidents which really question whether Israel is being precise as it says it is or indiscriminate. And I would cite the killing of the three hostages.

I would cite the killing of the two women outside the Catholic Church. I would cite the President of the United States saying that they're using indiscriminate bombing, and so on. Do you, Douglas, notwithstanding your full-throttle support of Israel, does anything that's been happening make you think Israel needs to execute this war differently? No, and I think that most of the people who think they know how to execute this war have never executed a war. Indeed, most people who think they know how the IDF should be running this

conflict have never been near a conflict. I'm in Israel tonight. I was in Gaza again. Okay, so let's pause it there again as I eat my jelly beans. No, and I think anyone who disagrees with me has no concept of the way war works. So in other words, contrary to every tradition of frigging warfare, going back to medieval days,

Mr. British Douglas Murray, where you don't kill civilians and you don't take hostages, you're claiming that in order to take out Hamas, you think it's okay to go completely opposite of the rules of war. And many of those are inside the Geneva Conventions. But this great journalist doesn't seem to bring that up. Sorry, Douglas. I know I said I wasn't going to get intense. I'll get a little intense. Just a soft reminder, Douglas. A soft reminder. We'll continue. And yes, today. And the examples that you give, by the way, Piers, I don't see why they show any need to prosecute the war itself differently. I mean, just to take one of them, the first example you give, the absolute tragic, awful shooting of these three hostages as they were coming out. But, you know, some of the spin that's been put on that

in the world, apart from the glee of course that Israel's enemies can't help expressing, some of the spin on that is almost as if it shows the idea that it's sort of so brutal that it even kills Hamas hostages who are Israeli. I just think this is another example of the international media and others just having this astounding lack of empathy for the israeli people can you imagine what it was like for those soldiers who were in gaza knowing that at any point there were snipers there are booby traps everywhere um people coming out of tunnels they've built at british and american taxpayer expenses and attacking them. Can you imagine what it was like for the soldiers who, in that terrible moment, made the life-changing mistake of shooting three people who turned out to be Hamas hostages? Why would they shoot anyone who was shirtless and waving an SOS flag?

I mean, whoever they were, whether they were Israeli hostages or whether they thought they were Palestinians, why would anyone shoot anyone who comes out like that? That's my point. That'll be a matter for the inquiry into it. But look, it's hardly as if they'd have wanted to have done that. What this demonstrates is in this incredibly close conflict in a heavily built up area, people coming out from all sides, firing, shooting, detonating, people make mistakes. Of course they do. That's just a human reality of war, horrible as it is.

I don't think it shows in any way that Israel is prosecuting this war wrongly. As for the main issue of the war, the main issue of the war is to destroy Hamas. No Israeli of left or right or center believes anymore after October 7th they can live beside Hamas. Hamas has been given the statelet of Gaza, given it in 2006, voted in, then killed their fellow Palestinians in a coup, killed Fatah rivals. All right, so let's pause it right there. Again, Douglas Murray never mentions during this 22, almost 23-minute exchange, that Benjamin Netanyahu himself and the government of the United States supported Hamas, and in particular Netanyahu on record more

than once said that it was important to support Hamas because they would not negotiate, then they would be an oppositional force. Rather than negotiating, they would want to make sure that Israel wouldn't expand anymore, and that by having the oppositional force in there, they could then say that they weren't negotiating with Hamas. Hamas wasn't open to them. They were cold. They were deaf to their entreaties. And therefore, they had to take violent action against Hamas.

He set it up for more violence. Literally, you can extrapolate that logic and know, you can know that Benjamin Netanyahu and his supporters knowingly tried to put Hamas in, aware of the fact that they were increasing the risk of innocent Israelis getting killed by Hamas, by more tit-for-tat fighting rather than negotiation. He took that role. He pushed that. The United States government pushed it. The United States government, again, is not calling for the extradition of the leaders of Hamas from Qatar. What's going on there? I don't understand. And I'm going to go back a little bit. I was considering as this was rolling, I was like, oh, I just want to let Cenk make his points. But I do think it's important for me to bring up a couple other points.

If we go back to about 350 here, 330. Let me go back to about 330 in this. Listen to what he says here. Go back to about 320. What he says here. Traps everywhere. People coming out of tunnels. Booby traps everywhere.

People coming out of tunnels. That's the first point. Logically speaking, if this place is so densely populated as we have heard that it is, which it is, five miles by 25 miles, as the Israelis have continued year after year, decade after decade, encroaching, encroaching, whether it's through military occupation, whatever it is, bulldozing old homes, raising up the new districts for Israelis, right? All those things. First of all, if they're like that, how could they booby trap all these places so quickly and still think that the innocent people walking around are going to get around? How could they

function? Did they do it that quickly? Could they make the booby traps that quickly? Do they care? The Hamas care about the civilians? I don't know. That's just a question as far as the geographics and the logistics of it. How can people move if there are booby traps everywhere? That's one thing. So I question how much booby trapping the Hamas fighters have been able to do. I don't know. Maybe they could get the stuff out there quickly, but it couldn't have been around there all the time. Booby traps all over the place. People couldn't function. What would you do? Right. You got IEDs on the streets when it's civilian time people will be blowing up all over the place how's that work the second thing is if they were doing it in preparation well the Israeli

troops have been on every street there manhandling people taking people away women and children over and over again every day you saw footage of how they block a guy from even allowing his son-in-law to come into his house. They have a gate in front of the dude's front steps because he's right on the edge of this zone. The Israeli troopers are all over the place. They're like the stormtroopers from Star Wars, except they don't have the white outfits. So if that's the case, is it possible that a guerrilla group under their noses could booby trap the whole city so much and then they don't discover it until now that they're going and bombing buildings everywhere and telling people to evacuate to the south, which they then bomb again? None of this, this doesn't make any sense. And this is a

guy who says he's been on the ground there. Of course, he's in Israel hanging out in a hotel. Now, I'm just saying that it makes it very difficult to believe what he's saying if you start to logically think about it. And maybe I'm missing a few things on the logical process on this because I don't know enough about the operations of guerrilla fighters on the ground maybe i just don't know but there seems to be a problem here for his claim that there are booby traps everywhere is that why they got a carpet bomb everything are the booby traps actually unexploded IEDs? Are they cluster ammunition that the United States gave to Israel and Ukraine? It's ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous. And the final bit, I want to play just this little bit again. Here we go....built at British and American taxpayer expenses

and attacking them. Can you imagine what it was like for the soldiers who in that terrible moment made the life-changing mistake of shooting three people who turned out to be Hamas hostages? Why would they shoot anyone who was shirtless and waving an SOS flag? I mean, why would you You heard the question and you heard his ridiculously fatuous answer. Now I want to give you other information and we'll come back to this video in just a minute. You remember how I said, if you use the logic of, well, it's just war, as we saw on CBS News, oh yes, these things happen. No, that's the passive voice. People killed other people. Agents of the state who got their weapons off of threatening taxpayers to cough up the money for it and claim that they were getting their defense for them, they engaged in killing innocent civilians who paid the taxes

to pay for the guns that killed themselves. That's the IDF. Of course, that's every state if they turn the guns against their own civilians. This case seems to excuse it to say, well, it's just war. Same thing with killing of the civilians in Gaza, right? It's just, it's war. Again, the rules of war are that you don't kill civilians, duh, right? You don't rape women. Now, Gazans killed civilians. The rape accusations, a little fuzzy, not sure about that stuff. Killing, definitely killing after Israeli forces killed numerous of them, after they killed some, after Israel, back, back, back, back in time, right? Okay. But again, the argument is, if the Israelis can make the argument, well, we're going in to rescue hostages. Well, as I said, if you want a little bit of evidence here, let's turn

to Al Jazeera, just to make this point plain. I've mentioned it a number of times, but I haven't shown you the information. Jailed without charge, how Israel holds thousands of Palestinian prisoners. This from the 29th of November, 2023. As Palestinian prisoners were being released last week, Israel imposed a ban on celebrations by their family members. Oh, I don't remember Douglas Murray mentioning that. Expressions of joy, National Security Minister Adhemar Ben-Gavir said, are equivalent of backing terrorism. Israel has presented imprisoned Palestinians as terrorists and has subjected many of the detainees to abuse. But of the 300, 300 Palestinian women and children whom Israel has identified for potential release as part of the humanitarian pause between Israel and Hamas, nearly 80% were not even formally charged.

Like I said, some have been held over a year, not charged, badly mistreated. An overwhelming majority of Palestinian prisoners were arrested under a quasi-judicial process known as administrative detention, under which Palestinians are initially jailed for six months. Their detentions can then be repeatedly extended for an indefinite period without charge or trial. Well, Barack Obama likes that idea. He wanted to do that to us. Most Palestinians, including children, are tried in military courts and handed lengthy sentences in what critics call sham military trials, because in many cases, Palestinians are deprived of defense lawyers and due process. Douglas, what happened to your Western tradition? You're so proud of England and Britain. In comparison, oh, Death of the West?

Was that the name of your book, Douglas? Death of the what? In comparison, Israeli citizens are tried in civil courts, highlighting the two-tier justice system that discriminates against Palestinians. Here's a look at the treatment of Palestinian prisoners, how Israel has weaponized administrative detention, and why many Palestinians are forced to go through Israeli military courts. Look at that. Israel is holding at least 2,070 Palestinian detainees without being charged or allowed to stand trial. The detainees, including women and children, can be held by the military for renewable periods based on secret evidence that neither the detainee nor their lawyer is allowed to see.

It shows you the rise towards 2023. Gee, I wonder why Hamas might have been getting more and more agitated. That doesn't excuse the violence. It just says, hmm, I wonder if there's another force at work here. Who's on the list? The vast majority of the Palestinians, 233 prisoners out of 300, on Israel's release list have not been formally charged and were held as administrative detainees. An overwhelming majority of them are children. The youngest is 14, who was probably 13 when he was brought in. Almost three quarters of them are from the occupied West Bank,

which has seen a surge of arrests since the start of Israel's war on Gaza on October 7th. The West Bank and occupied East Jerusalem had already seen a spike in Israeli raids this year, even before the war. The longest serving prisoner among the 300 has been held for 102 months or eight and a half years. Well, I just send her to Guantanamo. I might want to change the scenery. And then, you know, Ron DeSantis can come visit and then later say, well, I didn't see a thing. I know nothing. Let's get back to Douglas Murray and let's say offer us more information. I hope this is valuable for you. I hope it's providing you some.

Whoever they were, whether they were Israeli hostages or whether they thought they were Palestinians. Why would anyone shoot anyone who comes out like that? That's my point. So again, I'll just make that point. If the Israelis can make the claim that they can kill innocent people because they're rescuing hostages, and this is, I gotta make sure that I make this point.

This is a very, very important point. I wanna reiterate it. I've done it a few times. If the Israelis can make that argument, then Hamas can make the equal argument. Looking at what the Israelis have done, holding those people hostage that way with no trial whatsoever. Easily, easily make that argument. Does Douglas Murray even acknowledge that?

No. That'll be a matter for the inquiry into it. But look, it's hardly as if they'd have wanted to have done that. What this demonstrates is in this incredibly close conflict in a heavily built up area, people coming out from all sides, firing, shooting, detonating. People make mistakes. Of course they do. That's just a human reality of war, horrible as it is. I don't think it shows in any way that Israel is prosecuting this war wrongly. As for the main issue of the war, the main issue of the war is to destroy Hamas. No Israeli of left or right or center believes anymore after October 7th they can live beside Hamas.

Hamas has been given the statelet of Gaza, given it in 2006, voted in, then killed their fellow Palestinians in a coup, killed Fatah rivals, and they've run the Gaza for almost 18 years now. And they've produced a new generation of people whose main aim in life, it seems, according to their textbooks and their classes, is to regard Jews as enemies who should be killed. This is just an unbelievable waste, a waste of life on every side. But apart from anything else, a waste of those Palestinian lives of children who grew up under Hamas's rule, if you can call it that, who have been indoctrinated into becoming sociopaths by a psychopathic terror organization, Hamas. Okay, so let's pause it there again.

He says they've been indoctrinated into becoming psychopathic. Let me just ask you again, as you know, they can't come and go from that place. They can't just enter and leave. As we saw Aaron Maté's father mention, and also Norman Finkelstein mentioned, many of those people who have lived there, if they're under 20, they have never been outside those gates. So to claim that it's Hamas's fault that these people are somehow getting hypnotized and brainwashed to dislike the Israelis that have corralled them and held them in and continued to press in on them, that defies any sort of believability.

Oh, oh, they would love Israel. Otherwise, it's those terrible leaders in Hamas that Benjamin Netanyahu wanted to make sure were still in there. That the U.S. government gave money to, you know, to leave a preposition dangling. Again, logical inconsistency, evidentiary, very, very strained, really, really bad. All right. You've been listening to that. Is there anything that Douglas said that you agree with? No, nothing.

Not even about the way the mass has presided over Gaza in the last 18 years? Yeah. So that's a weapon of mass distraction. It's Israel doing genocide on the Palestinians right now. And there's IDF soldiers singing in video that the IDF has confirmed about how they're going to wipe out the seat of Amalek. That is a verse in the old Hebrew Bible that talks about exterminating Amalek. So they're talking about genocide against Palestinians. Benjamin Netanyahu has also talked about wiping out Amalek. These are open calls for genocide. What I find stunning, you know, Douglas mentioned stunning lack of empathy. There's 20,000 dead people in Palestine right now in Gaza. Over 8,000 of them are children.

When 36 Israeli children were killed by Hamas, the world cried out. And I was brokenhearted over it. 36 poor kids dead in Israel. Now there's over 8,000 dead kids in Gaza. You want to talk about a stunning lack of empathy. 6,400 women slaughtered in Gaza. You want to talk about terrorism. They're dropping unguided bombs, 2,000 pound bombs. Every one of those bombs is an act of terrorism. And the stunning lack of empathy towards Palestinian lives is disgusting. But I want to be clear, it is not shared by all

Israelis. The dad of one of the hostages who was killed went on israeli television and said stop killing them and he didn't mean the hostages he meant the palestinians let's jump in but before i go back to that this response to be afraid of that yes yeah i will let you reply to that on this issue of genocide do you accept that hamas's whole raison d'etre when it comes to Israel is genocide? They want to eradicate Israel and kill as many Jews as they can, and they've made no secret of this. Yeah, so this is really important. So I have no sympathy for Hamas, so I'm not interested in defending Hamas. I think that's nothing but a distraction,

because right now they're not fighting Hamas. They're just killing Palestinian civilians. They're also killing Hamas terrorists. They are. I mean, they're killing thousands of them. Barely. No, no, wait a minute. Barely.

But let's go to your main point, okay? So the main point is, well, Hamas threatens X, Y, and Z and has killed 1,200 people on October 7th. So that is why we have to all worry about what Hamas might, might, might, and Z, and has killed 1,200 people on October 7th. So that is why we have to all worry about what Hamas might, might, might, might do. Hold on, hold on, let me finish the point. Let me finish the point. Let me finish the point. What they might, might, might do if they had infinite power, the kind of power that Israel has. Meanwhile, Israel is actually doing the genocide, is actually preventing a Palestinian state and saying you are not allowed to exist.

And if you dare try to exist, we'll kill 20,000 of your children and women. All right, Douglas, respond to that. Several things. First of all, anyone who uses the term genocide in this context simply doesn't know what they're talking about or is a malevolent actor. I don't know if Mr. Uyghur has traveled at all in his life, how far he's traveled, how many conflicts he's seen, but I'd have guessed none. And you clearly

know nothing about this particular conflict and you've obviously seen none of it. The genocide that you describe is such a smear and a libel against the Jewish state. If Israel wanted to commit genocide, I'm sure it could, but it doesn't. It doesn't remotely want to. And people like you and other pro-Palestinian propagandists have spent years claiming that Israel is committing genocide in the Gaza. By the way, the weirdest thing about this claim is that the population of the Gaza has grown by a million in the last 15 or so years. So I just have to pause it there, everybody, because when you hear him say the population has grown, that's a total non-factor. That has nothing to do with it. It doesn't say how much more it would have grown, what the slaughter rate and the arrest

rate was due to the IDF, the so-called Israeli Defense Forces. And over on Rumble, Geesebusters makes a great point, IDF equals IOF, Israel Offensive Forces. And Risha M. says, oh, Birdhouse says, yeah, Risha M. says, watched another short documentary on ex-female IDF saying how they would put cigarettes out on kids, shoot kids, take pics of the dead bodies, just awful stuff. Yes, some people are speaking out. Very, very good stuff. Very important. Taylor Saunders in Rockton says says Douglas is an idiot and has issues. His eye movements indicate he has a psychopathic. He is a psychopathic fool.

Well, it's I certainly think that by his statements, he seems to be much more inclined in absolving people of aggressive actions by using terms like, well, it's war, and then just ending it there. He also seems very inclined to insult the people rather than the statements, which Cenk Younger actually was talking about the statements and the lack of empathy. And I also will point out that Piers Morgan allowed Douglas Murray to speak a lot more and gave him much softer, although he did bring back some good points. He didn't interrupt and start arguing the way that he was arguing with Cenk very, very quickly. But we'll continue. Here we go. So if Israel was trying to carry out a genocide, it's either the worst perpetrator of genocide ever or uniquely poor at performing that task. None of the stats support

that ridiculous claim. It's such a weird smear and a libel of Israel. Secondly, of course, you've just rattled off Hamas figures, as every one of your kind always does. Thirdly, you said that the world cried. You said the people like you who cover for the Palestinian extremists. Thirdly, you said that the world cried out for the 36 Israeli dead children. No, they didn't. And you know that very well. You know that very well. If you put up a poster to a missing dog in any Western city, that poster stays up. In city after city in America, posters of abducted Jewish children, including a 10-month-old baby, were put up and were ripped down by people who have been indoctrinated into hate of Jews.

Nobody would rip down the poster of a missing dog. But from Dublin to Berkeley, they ripped down posters of abducted Jewish children. So no, I don't think there was very much care for that around the world. Let me put this to you, Douglas. Let me make two other very quick points. Firstly, you said what Hamas might do, as if it was some kind of hypothetical. Hamas showed what they do, what they want to do. It showed it on October the 7th, and its leadership, as I'm sure you very well know, said that they would like to repeat that again and again until they have got rid of every Jew. So I don't know. I would trust Hamas's word on that rather than your interpretation of what you think they mean when they say that. So why is it, again, why is it that Benjamin Netanyahu

supported Hamas? It's a conflict there, isn't it? Cenk doesn't bring that up, but we'll continue. And your generous interpretation of what you think that means. And finally, as for preventing a Palestinian state, it is nonsense that the Israelis have prevented a Palestinian state. They gave the Gazans a Palestinian state in 2005. They gave them a Palestinian state in 2005 when every Jewish person was ripped from their homes in the Gaza by IDF soldiers.

And so let's see if we can figure this out then. The Israeli nation has grown year after year. It has not contracted. They gave in 2005, 2006, they gave Hamas political control of an ever diminishing land mass with people being pushed further and further closer together. And that's a sacrifice by Israel? Oh, okay. The Palestinian people were given a state. And what did they do? They voted in Hamas, who then killed their fellow Palestinians, never had another election, and used all the billions of dollars of taxpayer funds from the US, UK and Europe to build terror tunnels and to enrich themselves so they could live the life of luxury in Qatar.

Again and again, the real- So again, I'll say, has he called for them to be brought out of Qatar? Has he complained that the United States government has not asked for extradition for these terrorists? If they're supposedly terrorists, if they're the leaders, why don't they tell Qatar to extradite them, bring them to England, put them on trial, right? The reason there is not a Palestinian state is because the Palestinian leadership doesn't want one. It didn't want one in 1947, it preferred war, and it doesn't want one now. Douglas, let me put one point to you raised by Queen Rania of Jordan in a new piece for, I think it was the Washington Post. In just over two months, she said, Israel's turned Gaza into a hellscape. At least 8,000 children have died, more than the death tolls of Pearl Harbor,

September the 11th, and Hurricane Katrina combined. These are gigantic and horrendous numbers of children being killed. Do you not have any qualms about the number of children being killed. Do you not have any qualms about the number of children being killed? I mean, does it not suggest that Israel... I want to hear, I want to quick, I want to hear Queen Rania talking about this as much as I want to hear Queen Camilla or Meghan Markle. I mean, it's pathetic. Queen Rania is holding on to her own position in Jordan. The only piece of advice she has for anyone is how to marry a king. Queen Rania is holding on to her own position in Jordan. The only piece of advice she has for anyone is how to marry a king. Queen Rania herself is just playing a very nasty political game.

If she cared at all, and I would pose this to all the states in the region, if Jordan cared at all for the Palestinian people, they would take them in. They would take them in. They don't want them. There you go. Again, just treating the people as if, well, they can just be moved around. And it's perfectly fine that they be pushed around, moved around, as they have been slowly pushed and pushed and pushed every year, every few years by the Israelis. New bulldozers, new settlements.

Always. We keep hearing about him every few years. And instead of actually addressing the point, he attacks the woman's character and says, oh, I don't want to pay attention to what she says. Well, how about what she claimed? If you would like to dispute that rather than calling her names, that might be worthwhile and constructive. But you don't. Egyptians wanted them. They take them in, but they don't. You know why? Because every country that takes in the Palestinians gets

terror. It happened in Egypt. Does it matter why or why not? Are you going to ascribe motives for why they should or shouldn't take people in? How about no? How about your neighborhood? Egypt, it happened in Jordan, it happened in Syria, it happened in Lebanon, it happened in Tunisia, on and on. That's why these people don't really care about their fellow Muslims. They just care about hating Jews. All right, Cenk, your response. Yeah, so you asked if he cared about 8,000 dead babies, and his answer was no. Queen Rania bothers me, so a complete non-answer because

he doesn't care he doesn't think that palestinians lives are worth anything you just call them all terrorists you can put that and this is what they always do there you go so hold on i let you talk for a long time so why don't you shut up for a second so uh we've got all these dead babies. We've got all of these dead babies that this monster doesn't care about. He says, keep bombing them. A former intelligence officer said in the Israeli press, they're using AI in a program called the gospel, where he said it's basically a mass assassination factory. And we could all see it with our own eyes. And you could do all the propaganda you want. No one believes your nonsense. We see all the dead women. We see all the dead children. Now Israel has killed 20 times the number of civilians that Hamas killed. So would

I want Hamas in charge of Israel? Never, never. I don't trust them. And I don't believe that they would be benign. So all of this propaganda about, oh, like, oh, people don't trust them and I don't believe that they would be benign. So all of this propaganda about, oh, people don't mind Hamas. No, we mind Hamas. We mind terribly what happened on October 7th. And I'm now showing you different Israelis that have said that it's a problem and I want peace and security for both Israel and Palestine. And this does not give Israel any peace or security. But when you ask the other side, do you mind tens of thousands of civilians that have been murdered, incinerated alive, body parts picked out of rubble, little babies killed over and over again, in what is that even the Israeli prime minister is referring to as al-Malak, meaning an extermination of the Palestinian people.

And I must clarify the difference between a genocide and a holocaust. A genocide is when you target a specific people and kill a lot of civilians. Serbaniza, where 6,000 people were killed, was considered a genocide. So it doesn't mean you try to murder every single person in that race. That is a holocaust. This is the Libyan reply. Wait one second. Before I go to Douglas, Jake, one question.

You want to get rid of Hamas too, as does Douglas, as do I. If you don't do it the way that Israel is currently doing it, given that they live amongst a population, how else do you do it? Yeah, there's an excellent way to do it, and there's the right way to do it. So let me explain. So war, this guy talks about, oh, I love war. I go to all the conflict zones. So by watching it and rooting on for more death, I know something about conflict. You know nothing. So here's what reality is. War gets you more war, but peace actually works. so when Israel did a peace deal with Egypt not only were the Egyptians safe but the Israelis became

safer that peace deal has held for decade after decade so how do you do a peace deal in this case what you do is you make you do the two-state solution now and you do it with the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank and if you then have a Palestinian state the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank. And if you then have a Palestinian state, the Palestinian Authority would have the credibility to drive out Hamas from Gaza. That is a realistic plan for both peace, security for Israel and the Palestinians and driving out Hamas. The idea that you're going to kill 20,000 more civilians,

200,000 more civilians in Gaza and and it's going to drive us. Okay, let me answer that. Let me answer that. First of all, I mean, your other guest, I mean, I don't know what kind of a creature he is. He's a kind of low-grade thug as far as I can see. He's listened to nothing I've said. Yeah, yeah. Because I'm Muslim.

That's what we call all Muslims. I'll tell you. No, it's not that at all. It's not that at all. I just think you're a very, I think you're just a very low-rent racist. But anyway, let me just get on to it. You say, first of all, you say, I don't care about the death of Palestinian children. Yes, I do care. I care very deeply about it. But I also know that the responsibility for their deaths lies on Hamas, which has misgoverned their society for the last 16 years and now has been leading the country into being in a war with Israel. So, yeah. All right. So, you probably have seen that many, many times. What I think is interesting is this is like somebody from the United States government accusing people that have been stuck in an Indian reservation of being angry at the United States government and the leaders of the Indian reservation, whom the U.S. government has subsidized to be the leaders of the Indian reservation, somehow mismanaging things inside the Indian reservation, even though the U.S. government wasn't allowing resources and controlled

all those resources inside the Indian reservation. That's what I see from Douglas Murray. reservation, even though the U.S. government wasn't allowing resources and controlled all those resources inside the Indian reservation. That's what I see from Douglas Murray. That's what I see. And I want to compliment, again, Sankyonger or Sankyonger or whatever. I'm sorry, I keep mispronouncing his name, for doing a stand-up job, holding his cool for quite a while. And what was interesting was this guy, Murrayray kept tweaking him and needling him interrupting him with little sounds and breathing and and finally saying like will you just shut up let me talk and then the guy opens up like oh you're very courteous aren't you after repeatedly interrupting saint jonker just incredible just incredible it's a gaslighting technique. It's

100% gaslighting, which is the same thing as his rhetoric. Israel has to be able to engage in the slaughter of innocent people in order to protect innocent people. Get it? And if you don't like that, then you must be in favor of the slaughter of innocent people. Get it? So there you go, everybody. I hope that was okay. I thought it was worth playing the whole segment from my show last night because I wanted to get that out there. Sometimes a story might dominate for an hour

in an interview with someone who has a new book or someone with some great expertise on a subject. Maybe they've traveled somewhere or they've been working in a field and it's so interesting. So I hope you didn't mind me putting that information out there, drawing out the experience from last night's program and doing that sort of mimic of that amount of time for that particular subject for what we did. You know, oftentimes on a talk show or a news show, you might spend 10, 20 minutes on a subject, dig into it, get some more information the next day, maybe reveal some more, ask the opinions of the viewers. And this one went a little extended on my own on this because I wanted to show that to people. And then I got to read some of the comments and we did some more as I closed off the program.

So as we close off the David Knight program, first, I want to go into the Rockfin chat, because as I've been here on the side, I want to thank everyone so much. Greg Talent contributed to the program early in the show. And then Torinator contributed as well. And he said, thank you for doing double duty this week while David is away. Podcasters like you are living the dream for us in the audience. I'm just glad my occupation gives me multiple hours to receive my download of truth every day so I can vicariously live the dream with you. Although I can't start my own podcast for various reasons, I do make memes on occasion that I'd like to share with you somehow.

Well, thank you, Tourinator. And contact me on the backside of Twitter. It's at Guard Goldsmith. And that would be great. That would be awesome. And Jason Barker, again, great contribution, Jason, over at Rockfin. Thank you. Thank you, Jason.

He says, thanks, Guard. You rock. Well, you rock too, Jason. I love you, man. You guys are just great people. Just awesome people in the David Knight audience and David Knight and his family as well. And there were some amazing observations inside both of the chats. I want to acknowledge Narrow Way Narrow Gate Ministry for coming up with so many great biblical references.

And also some people comparing their thoughts about Sank. And again, yeah, I had a lot of mixed feelings about him. I still do. But, you know, when someone says the right thing or someone consistently, like Russell Brand, somebody said, you know, why are you promoting Russell Brand? I just want to mention, you know, Russell Brand had a change of heart. He had to overcome his addiction problems and he had done some really, really terrible things in the past. So you say to yourself, do you give a person like that a chance? Well, he consistently shows me it over and over again.

He's not yet a Christian, although now he's reading the Bible. They're doing a Bible study on his show, and I don't think it's fatuous. He's really interested in these sorts of things, and I think part of the reason that he's so interested in it is part of his nature, but I think also this exploration of the greater power, and now he's reading the Bible. I'm not saying he's necessarily going to become a Christian, but it reveals a change of heart as he became sober and changed his life and apologized for those things that he did in the past, profusely apologized. And you can't change those past. But if you can show consistently that you've had a change in heart with your behavior, I don't think he's a cut out.

I don't think he's a, you know, controlled opposition or anything like that. I think he's he's honest and straight up. He gave up a lot in his life. And so I'm going to let his behavior continue talking and showing me if he's covering these stories in these ways. Maybe I'll disagree, you know, once in a while, but I keep getting great information from Russell Brand. So I give him a chance. And I love the people at Redacted. They're also fantastic. And I like Glenn Greenwald, have some disagreements with him, Jimmy Dore, same thing. So, you know, give folks a chance.

Try to be as positive as I can. And, boy, I wish I could get to all the comments. David will be back on Monday, everyone. And I really appreciate the comments in there, people wondering when David's going to be coming back, and also the contributions as well. And, yeah, I really appreciate you being with me here on the program. I'll conclude with, yeah, of course, a little bit of something extra from David as we say goodnight, good afternoon,

whatever time zone you might be calling your home. And we'll go with a little something from David and the family, which is, I think a pretty nice one. Check this out. We'll say fairly well. Thank you so much for being one great group of people supporting the David Knight show. Get better.

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