The David Knight Show - 29Nov24 David Knight UNABRIDGED - Are Viruses Proven Science? Natural Remedies and a Remedy for Property Taxes

Episode Date: November 29, 2024

(0:00) Does what you have been told about viruses and contagion stand up to scientific scrutiny? Science is never settled. In the case of virology, holding it to the standards of science with cont...rolled trials and objective data would have saved us from the "pandemic" — and it is the only thing that will save us from future "pandemics" fueled by fear and tradition Two physicians from New Zealand, Dr. Mark Bailey & Dr. Samantha Bailey join to explain their book "The Final Pandemic: An Antidote to Medical Tyranny"  and why their paradigm shifted when they applied science to the conventional wisdom behind "pandemics"  (1:02:57) States give tax abatements to corporations as an incentive all the time, but never help the people with their biggest investment — their home.  Donald Rainwater, candidate for Governor of Indiana, has a novel approach to ending property taxes and many other ideas to reduce the size of government that were done during "pandemic" lockdown, then abandoned.  (2:03:44) John Richardson joins to talk about natural remedies for things the medical community has no cures.  Health information has been hidden from us for a long time.  Ronald Reagan was given natural treatment for stage 4 cancer in 1985 and lived for another 19 years to 93 yrs of age, yet this was hidden from us until he died.   After the blatant lies and manipulations by the government & BigPharma for the last 4 years people want to know — what else are they hiding? Use the code KNIGHT at RNCStore.comIf you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-show Or you can send a donation throughMail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @DavidKnightShow@protonmail.comCash App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7 Money should have intrinsic value AND transactional privacy: Go to DavidKnight.gold for great deals on physical gold/silver For 10% off Gerald Celente's prescient Trends Journal, go to TrendsJournal.com and enter the code KNIGHTBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.

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Starting point is 00:01:06 We've heard that so many times, right? That's kind of the refuge of a scoundrel. As I've said so many times, science is never settled. The only way that science advances is if people question some of the long-held assumptions. And so that's what we're going to do today. You know, when somebody tells you something like a good math teacher, they should show you the work. They should especially show you the data.
Starting point is 00:01:27 If they don't do that, you ought to get ever more skeptical about this. And after four years of this nonsense, the masks and the lockdowns and the six foot distancing and then the vaccines that weren't tested. If you're not skeptical about this stuff right now, the show is not for you. But I think most of you who watch this show are. And so I wanted to cover the book. This is we have a couple of doctors from New Zealand. The book is The Final Pandemic, An Antidote to Medical Tyranny.
Starting point is 00:01:58 And it really is the antidote to medical tyranny. We want, however, to make sure that we have answered the questions and the objections. And that's why I wanted to get them on. That's a very thorough book. My guests are Dr. Mark Bailey and Dr. Samantha Bailey. They are married.
Starting point is 00:02:16 Both of them are physicians in New Zealand. So thank you for joining us. Thank you. Thank you. And of course, let me give the website as well. It's drsam, drsambailey.com. And so that's where you can find more information. You can find the book everywhere. But thank you for joining us. And it is fascinating. I haven't been able to read the
Starting point is 00:02:39 entire book, but I've read a great deal of it. You've done another book that was 400 pages long, had 1,400 references. This one's about 180 pages long, and it's got, so I got it wrote down here, 444 references. So you document stuff very well. People can do their own research. It's a great beginning point for somebody if they want to question the foundation of what has happened to us for the last four years. But let's begin by letting you give us a little bit of your background as physicians. What caused you to question something that most people say is an unquestionable orthodoxy? Well, thank you, David, for that really great introduction to introduce this topic. And as you mentioned, Sam and I were both conventionally trained doctors.
Starting point is 00:03:29 I graduated in 1999, one of the last doctors to graduate from the last century, and was in the medical system for two decades. Now, during that time, there were definitely speed bumps for me. I questioned what we were doing a lot of the time. Many of the things we did with regard to pharmaceuticals, vaccines and surgery were not things that I would do to myself or to my family. So there was always that uneasy relationship. Now despite having an established career in, I decided to leave in 2016. I hated the structure of the medical system, was having increasing amounts of conflict with other practitioners within the system because of disagreements about what we were doing
Starting point is 00:04:16 and decided to completely get out of it. Now, the best thing to come out of my medical career was meeting my wife, Sam, next to me here. So we met in 2007 when we were both hospital doctors, and we worked in all kinds of specialties, including clinical trials. human dosing of new pharmaceuticals and spent quite a few years getting to grips with how the biotech industry worked and how the pharmaceutical industry worked and how they funded studies and how they got new products to market so that was a fascinating insight for both of us now in 2016 i was so done with medicine that i said to Sam, I think you've got to get out because I really believe it's going to get worse. And Sam said, yeah, it's pretty bad. But she had some work that she was enjoying.
Starting point is 00:05:13 And I'll hand over to Sam before we get to 2020 and what happened. I'll hand over to Sam. Okay. Yeah. So basically I was still working in clinical trials and I had great patience and I loved the work and I wasn't ready to kind of leave. And anyway, and then I formed my own business, which was like an online doctor business.
Starting point is 00:05:33 And this was kind of the first of its kind in New Zealand before all this became normal. And by chance, I got kind of invited to become a TV presenter on a health show, like in a mainstream network in New Zealand. So I did that and I really loved it. And one of my friends suggested that I should start my own YouTube channel. So I did that at the kind of end of 2019 going into 2020. And then this was the real start of my awakening when you actually hit the kind of wall of what you're allowed to do.
Starting point is 00:06:04 And so people were asking about coronavirus and what you know what it meant and I didn't know and I would I'd hunker down with Mark and we'd kind of research and answer a lot of these questions and we came across this book Virus Mania which was a huge shift in everything that I once thought to believe. And it was actually Mark who sat me down because he read the book first. And yeah. Yeah, it was one of those situations, David, where I'd been out of medicine for four years
Starting point is 00:06:37 when this whole COVID thing started and I wanted to stay out. And as Sam says, she started this YouTube channel. And by Januaryuary 2020 people are saying what's this rumor coming out of wuhan can you talk about it can you talk about these things and i started researching and the first thing i looked at was the world health organization documents and i said to sam there's nothing here these are just so-called expert opinions they refer to some protocols. They refer to historical events. I can't find the foundational science behind what they're talking
Starting point is 00:07:10 about here. Then around February, we start seeing publications claiming that they've found this novel virus and it's causing a new disease. Now, Sam and I as clinicians looked at these papers and said, what new disease this is pneumonia this is all of the same things we've seen before there's nothing special about these patients and then people would say well look at the CT scans and we'd say yep those lungs that's generic kind of findings for people with pneumonia this place Wuhan is obviously highly polluted there's plenty of reasons why people are going to get sick there. And we don't see anything novel going on here.
Starting point is 00:07:50 So that led, as Sam says, to the discovery of Virusmania. Sam subsequently became a co-author of that book. But at that time, it was new to us. And we started looking into biology. And we just couldn't believe it because there were two things that were apparent. One was that when we were at medical school and working as doctors, the wool had been pulled over our eyes.
Starting point is 00:08:15 We had not been shown all of the failed experiments that had taken place over a century. And also we didn't realise that people had been trying to get this information out for years so we had the Perth group in Australia we had doctors Stephen Lanker David Crowe other people Carrie Mullis who you know had various views but one of them was that there were major problems with aspects of virology so we discovered this and our audience just kept saying, go deeper, go deeper. And so before long in 2020, we found that we were at the tip of the spear with
Starting point is 00:08:53 Andy Kaufman and Tom Cowan and Mike Stone, Christine Massey, and all of these other great individuals that decided in 2020 that they'd dedicate their time to researching these issues. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it is amazing. I came at it from a different angle, which my audience is familiar with. I came at it from Dark Winter and the germ games and things like that. And when they started doing this and there wasn't really anybody dying and they declare a pandemic, like, wait a minute, this is not even an epidemic.
Starting point is 00:09:24 So it truly has been an amazing thing to see how they were able to pull this off and how long it lasted. But I want to get to the root of the cause. And that really is the pandemic. And when we're talking about a pandemic, we're really talking about it's not so much even really the existence of a virus or a germ but it's about being able to prove that this is being transmitted that you've isolated this that it's being that it's able to transmit it as a contagion that it can make people sick that it can replicate that type of thing talk a little bit about what the problems are with that. Yeah, well, I guess contagion studies itself are one of the best first windows to get into because it opens people's minds because you don't know, or most people don't know that there have been major studies that have been done in the past
Starting point is 00:10:18 exposing the problem with contagion. And the best example I always, because this is what really woke me up was the rosinow experiments that were done in the states where they had a group this is during the spanish flu time so the spanish 1918 yeah the gold standard of all the pandemics that's one that everybody wants to talk about yeah and we've actually made quite a few videos on these subjects because it's i think it's really important to unravel because there's lots of things going on. But what people understood, so with these Rosanau experiments,
Starting point is 00:10:52 was that they had a group of about 50 patients that were prisoners who, on a condition of getting out of prison early, they could partake in the study, which was to be around extremely sick Spanish flu patients, and these are usually young men, and at the height of their illness, and then they had to basically cough in their faces, take muous secretions from their nose and eyes and rub it in the prisoners' eyes, these healthy volunteers. They took samples, blood samples. They did everything you can imagine to try and make these prisoners, these healthy prisoners, sick.
Starting point is 00:11:38 And none of them got sick. And they've repeated, these experiments were repeated. And again, they could never transmit the so-called illness. And we have to remember here, David, these were allegedly the most infectious diseases that humanity has ever seen. And yet when it gets put into the experiments, no transmission. And then from there, we looked into everything. So there are two different things to consider. One is the microbes that we can see, so bacteria, fungal cells, etc. And the other is these imagined ones, which are the viruses. And they have tried transmission studies with all of these things.
Starting point is 00:12:20 And it is just astounding how the evidence relies on things take polio for instance that was a case of taking diseased tissue from a dead child and inject mashing it up some spinal cord tissue and injecting it into monkeys brains and if it killed them or gave them paralysis they would conclude well that's evidence of transmission. Completely nonsensical, no control experiment, and we all know that injecting foreign material directly into an animal's brain is likely to cause a massive reaction and possible death. Through to things like the measles and chickenpox. Now, we're all told that you're in the same room as someone,
Starting point is 00:13:02 you're going to pick it up, or someone's going to pick it up, it can travel through the air over distance etc this has never been shown in a scientific study instead what they refer to and everyone relies on this the cdc wikipedia the textbooks wherever you look the medical schools what they rely on are is like with the measles and chickenpox they will take fluid from a diseased human so you know they have the skin rash and the fluid build up take some of that fluid inject it into an animal and then if that animal gets a rash declare that that shows contagion complete nonsense because these are not natural roots and these are not controlled studies. And also with regard to the germ theory, there's no independent variable. So they haven't shown that they found a germ that by itself could cause all of these problems.
Starting point is 00:13:56 And people will be astounded. I mean, this is everything. This is things like gonorrhea, the so-called sexually transmitted infections. We've made presentations about this. Sam's done videos about how these things have not been shown to transmit via natural routes in settings that you would see in nature. So it really is an incredible state of affairs. And the problem is, is that everyone comes at you with the anecdotal stories and says, well, explain this. And we've spent a lot of time saying well that's not a scientific
Starting point is 00:14:29 study it's an anecdotal story because we go to the scientific studies which shows something quite different yeah in the foreword of your book you talk about four different things circular light well kind of that, the logical fallacies of this before we talk about some of the anecdotal stuff. Because I do want to come back to the measles thing. That's really the obstacle. Things like that, I guess, are the obstacle that we and the general population have
Starting point is 00:15:01 in terms of leaving this paradigm. But talk first about what you have in terms of uh you know leaving this paradigm but but talk first about what you have in the forward about the the four uh key errors that are there when when they're trying to uh present this as uh as a pandemic well i think uh so are you talking about the forward the circular logic yeah the circular logic the you know uh isolating something instead of having an isolate having some kind of a computer uh sequence that they kind of guessed at the pcr test you know things like that yeah and his excellent um forward professor tim noakes basically summarizes what us and other researchers have been exposing over many years now. And this is the fact that the techniques of virology are not adequate enough to show what they are claiming.
Starting point is 00:15:57 So what they are claiming is that the definition of virus, for one, has changed so many times and they continue to change it. Oh yeah, they changed it just before the so-called pandemic, they changed it. Significantly. They changed the definition of pandemic. The definition of virus, the definition of pandemic, the definition of vaccine, they all changed right before. That's nothing suspicious at all, right? No. And the word virus is so ethereal that even the virologists don't seem to
Starting point is 00:16:28 know what it means half the time and i suspect if you asked many doctors or scientists what it actually means they wouldn't know because we actually spent ages researching this stuff and you find documents all over the place which talk about all these different things so but essentially what people imagine is that there is a particle an infectious particle tiny little thing that you can only see within electron microscope and that somehow the virologists have been isolating this and when we say isolating most people will think physically isolating not changing the definition of isolation, and then using these particles to do an experiment, using it as an independent variable. So for instance, we could say,
Starting point is 00:17:14 if you suspect that a bacterial cell like E. coli, which is found commonly, causes disease, you isolate E. coli, and they do this all the time and then you run your experiments and see is it pathogenic can it cause disease by itself can it attack healthy tissue so that's all fine the virologist can't do that because they can't find the independent variable so when they take diseased tissue and extract it directly they can't identify the viruses in there it doesn't look any different than tissue that said not to have viruses in general so instead they resort to the cell culture technique which professor noakes talks about in his um introduction now the problem with this technique is that it's indirect.
Starting point is 00:18:07 They didn't identify the virus in the first place. So they start conflating things, and instead of finding an independent variable, they look at the results of the experiment, which is the breakdown of tissue in their cell culture, and then say, well, that must have been due to the virus but this is a complete circular uh reasoning logical fallacy but i've seen the virus it's a little spiky ball it's on all the articles every time they talk about it we got a little spiky ball there
Starting point is 00:18:41 what's that sam did a whole video on electron microscopy because that is an issue in itself about the nature of what you can image, whether it represents living tissue. But here's the biggest problem with it. Those images appear after the fact, not before. So those little particles that are imaging are the result. So they're the dependent variable in the experiment. They're not an independent variable that was identified at the start. Now, this is not permitted in science. You can't create an independent variable after the fact.
Starting point is 00:19:16 You have to start with it because that's the thing you're supposed to manipulate. But because they can't do that with viruses they get into the circular reasoning cell breakdown equals virus you know virus equals cell breakdown and we keep pointing out to them where is the independent variable how can we prove that this is what happened so so yeah a lot of the introduction is professor noakes outlining summarizing what many of us have pointed out over the years is that these techniques that they are using, and that's from everything through to the cell culture, through to the genomics and PCR, etc, are invalid because they don't follow the scientific method.
Starting point is 00:20:01 They are not controlled experiments and they should never, ever have been permitted to go this far because what we're dealing with here is a hypothesis that has been refuted. It is not a theory because a theory implies that it has been tested and found to withstand all attacks, all falsification, which is simply not the case. There was another aspect. Sorry, I didn't mean which is simply not the case. But yeah, please let us know if there's another aspect. Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Did you want to finish? Yes, certainly let us know if there are other aspects, genomics, PCR, et cetera, that you want to discuss because there are just so many areas to this that people need to understand. It's all been built up on the foundational forward that a germ theory and contagion was never shown to be valid. And with regard to virology, the single biggest issue has been they never
Starting point is 00:20:55 found these particles in nature. They were artifacts from experiments. They were imaginings in people's minds. They were not solid scientific evidence. Yeah, and I want to talk about those other aspects, but I just wanted to interject here with the first one of these logical fallacies in the foreword that was written, I forgot, Dr. Tim Noakes. But there was an interesting article, and they made parallels between virology and physics.
Starting point is 00:21:28 And they said the people who were doing, the physicists will tell you that they don't know. And they're trying to get, so give them more money, because they've got to do more studying. The virologists will tell you they know everything. Give them more money. And when I look at it, it seems like try to explain what they're observing but they can't directly observe that thing they can't observe dark matter they can't observe directly the the virus and they see the after effects of it and then they come up with this hypothesis that that it existed is that right would you say that's that's correct way of looking at it or am i wrong definitely and i mean i've had people reach out to me who are theoretical physicists
Starting point is 00:22:26 saying that they realise the problems with virology because it parallels exactly their own experience with theoretical physics. And the trouble is there's all these other things that make it real for people. Like you've got PCR tests which make it real for people, you know, the lateral flow or rat tests. People have one of those and they go, oh, well, I'm sick, so this makes it real for people you know the the the lateral flow or rat tests people have one of those and they go oh i'm sick so this makes it real they see pictures of it of which are just
Starting point is 00:22:51 computer drawings of what a virus is supposed to be and they think that that makes it real and this is the problem is that um was it the perth group once said that they have the virus. Yeah, meaning that once they introduce this word into the public's imagination, it takes a lot to reverse it because everyone has witnessed people getting sick in clusters. They have seen what they believe is chickenpox and influenza, etc., which are all conditions that the body goes through, no doubt. But the problem is an explanation was given to them and most people have accepted it and we have to be honest david that when we were at medical
Starting point is 00:23:30 school and practicing physicians we believed this too and now we can see that it is so incorrect and that there are other explanations for these things but um that's why one of Sam's ideas was to systematically deal with every virus that I've ever invented. But we realised that this is a big topic, you know. This would be like going through the Lord of the Rings and writing dossiers for every single character, writing about their background, da-da-da-da. And this is what we have to do.
Starting point is 00:24:02 But we've sort of covered the main ones you know epsom bar and measles and influenza common colds um obviously covid uh all this kind of stuff hiv and making videos about every single one to show people that there are other explanations and that the entire foundation and people can find that at dr sam bailey b-, B.A.I.L.E.Y. Yeah, you didn't do the Silmarillion. You just kind of stayed on Sauron. Kind of focus on that. And I think the genius of the PCR test abused by Fauci from AIDS on is that it gives us illusion of objective measurement, which is not there
Starting point is 00:24:45 at all. The way they magnify this stuff is absolutely absurd. But I think that's the real genius, as you point out, the pictures that they create of, you know, the spiky ball and everything. And so they create these pictures, computer animated pictures. They got PCR, which is about about as connected maybe not even as connected to reality as the computer generates stuff but then talk a little bit about the computer generated genetic sequences that they use because since they can't observe this they create a genetic
Starting point is 00:25:16 sequence and they send that around right you know what we focus a lot on here is the origin and significance of these sequences and I wrote a paper a farewell to virology a couple of years ago it's about 29,000 words it carefully lays out the problems of the virological techniques including a lot of it being dedicated to genomics now and we've shown that take something like these coronaviruses for instance and they say well we've been sequencing these typing them for years we can go back to our databases we can trace their evolution through their so-called phylogenetic trees all this kind of stuff well we don't get distracted with that because you know, a lot of people will get stuck in the weeds and they'll go,
Starting point is 00:26:07 well, look at this sequence and look at that sequence and look how that's mutated. Sam and I just go, all very interesting, but show us the source documents here. And what I did in a farewell to virology with alleged coronaviruses was trace back to the original papers where they claimed that they were coming up with the genomes of these entities. Now I carefully document this, this is around 1982 to 1984.
Starting point is 00:26:36 Those papers are complete pseudoscience, there's no controls in them. They simply have diseased tissue that they're doing experiments with chick embryos and such tissue and then they are sequencing the genetic sequences but at no stage did they find any viruses they just assumed they said oh we've got tissue breakdown we've got these lesions that are forming we suspect that there's a virus in there we're going to take sequences these were mixed tissues okay these have got all sorts of things in them with the chick embryos and other fluids etc and they said well these sequences they don't seem to come from where we expected so we'll call them quote viral sequences and they were deposited into a database then other people all around the
Starting point is 00:27:27 world started doing sequences and said hey we've found very similar sequences therefore we have also found the virus and the thing is david you can do this anywhere and this is the whole problem now with uh what we call metagenomics which is simply taking environmental samples. So this could be the snot up someone's nose. It could be the sewer. They seem to love taking samples out of the sewer. It could be an orange. Cow's milk. It could be cow's milk, wherever you want to go and you look for these genetic sequences. Now the power of PCR to amplify sequences is incredible. So it can find the tiniest amounts. Now, so there are two issues here.
Starting point is 00:28:11 One is, well, where did they come from? Because they never ever showed that there was a virus that contained these sequences. And even if they did show such a particle, where was the evidence that that is the cause of the problem in the organism? Because we know know and every scientist who's involved in genomics should accept this because it is fact that different sequences can appear when organisms are sick so when you get sick and have a cold or a flu your body your
Starting point is 00:28:40 cells will start expressing different sequences and they will start coming out in your snot and fluids, etc. It doesn't mean you got attacked from the outside by some microscopic entity. It just means that your body is going through a process where it will produce these sequences. And again, we've been very careful with this stuff. We traced back things. So, for instance, the spike protein sequences,
Starting point is 00:29:03 which cause a lot of excitement in recent years. Well these are nothing new, these are just sequences that were described as far back as the 80s or at least 1990 from our investigations and you find them in tissue breakdown experiments, you find them in mammals and and birds you will find them in humans etc but it doesn't mean that you've found the virus etc because the same techniques have failed over and over again they can't isolate these particles they can't use them as an independent variable etc but yeah you'll see like i've been engaged in debates with genomics experts and stuff, and it's really difficult because I think they honestly believe this stuff and you can't get them to just go back, back, back to the foundational studies. Where's the virus?
Starting point is 00:29:56 We always say because it's simply not there. Yeah. And when you talk about the spike protein, the spike protein that seems to be generated by the mrna vaccines what do you make of that uh is you know and the fact that it seems to be replicating uh is that our first virus yeah we there's a whole lot of problems here is um one it's not sure if it does generate once it's been injected because a lot of the experiments are done in vitro in test tubes so when you do that you've got single cells and you can transfect them you can put genetic material in there and get them to start producing proteins so that's technology that's been around for a long time i I mean, what would we say is that it's an inflammatory type product,
Starting point is 00:30:47 whatever it does inside the body. But I guess for us, David, we always focus upstream and say you don't ever inject these products because their effects are unpredictable. Even, quote, regular products that they inject in the childhood schedule, the effects are highly unpredictable, even though much, much more is known about what they contain. But you'll get anything from no reaction to children that are permanently disabled by the injection.
Starting point is 00:31:16 I think like all things, we don't focus too much on that, except to tell people who think that the spike protein is something new and novel etc is that it's not it's simply a class of protein that's been described for many decades now and uh yeah if it does get produced in your body not a good idea but that's we would emphasize that that's the same principle for every single injectable product in this category there is no possible health benefit to the recipient it bypasses the natural route of um how we you know how we deal with uh i guess foreign material into our body so like every time an injection you're just bypassing
Starting point is 00:31:59 so many natural routes and this is the problem the biggest problem with vaccines is that if you get loaded with aluminium we can deal with it if we ingest it because it just passes through our system but if it's injected it doesn't it's sequestered in the bone and the brain and that's the problem with it yeah and so an analogy for people is that the reason you can swallow snake venom but you could not inject it because that can be potentially fatal, whereas most people wouldn't notice if they swallowed a bit. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:29 I didn't know that about snake venom, but I'm not going to try. I'll take your word for it. You know, just out of curiosity, just out of curiosity, I think last I saw we were over 90 injections that they put into kids in America. I know we've got more than any other country. What's the ballpark figure there in New Zealand for childhood vaccines? Yeah, it's high. I don't think we're quite as high as America, but
Starting point is 00:32:56 the worst part in New Zealand is that we have a very high uptake, percentage wise, anyway. But it has gone down in saying that people have woken up to so many different vaccines since um since covid they've started questioning everything i don't know the yeah i think um i mean we're still in the dozens and dozens here and um the one difference is the united states starts right from day dot, whereas in New Zealand they tend to wait a few weeks. Not that either approach is the correct one, but I mean, as we point out in the final pandemic,
Starting point is 00:33:32 this is one of the biggest scams in history, and if you want to expose it, people can simply ask their family doctor, well, what is in these injections? So my child's coming in, you're the expert apparently, tell me please, what is contained within these injections that we're putting in? And also, you know, perhaps asking, what is the history
Starting point is 00:33:57 of this disease you're supposedly presenting? Because, I mean, it's so apparent that most of these things, and there are problems with diagnosis of entities called smallpox and measles and they're all just conditions that the body goes through but even on their own terms the work of the team of dissolving illusions the charts that have been produced by Greek Beatty and Jordan Henderson are so damning for the whole vaccine story. Some of these diseases were down in mortality by over 99% before the introduction of the vaccine.
Starting point is 00:34:33 So what a preposterous situation. I think that was a whooping cough, wasn't it? That was down by 99%, I think, in the book here. Yeah, lots of them were. And yeah, we include some charts from Christianic and Humphreys from dissolving illusions there, which is just superb. And the crazy thing is here, David, is that last century, it was so apparent that these so-called infectious diseases
Starting point is 00:34:58 had all but disappeared. They were not significant at all. And yet here we are in 2024, the narrative is that they're worse than ever. And we're being attacked by even more germs now. And you need to have 10 times the number of vaccines that your grandparents have. Yeah, when I was going through and looking at the childhood schedule
Starting point is 00:35:17 here in the United States, I was surprised, first of all, to see how many there were. And then when I saw the schedule, the fact that they're giving the same vaccine over and over and over again, I thought that was something that was new with the covet stuff i'd never uh seen that that they're doing something on like a you know quarterly basis or a six-month basis for young kids it's no wonder that we have this epidemic so many epidemics of illness autism
Starting point is 00:35:41 and other things like that when they load it up and it's simply for profit now in the united states we've had i think it was children's health defense talked to a physician a pediatrician who was explaining the economics of it and the fact that the insurance companies would actually require a high up a high uptake percentage from the patients or they would basically uh destroy the practice financially. Now, in New Zealand, they have government is paying you if you're a physician, is that correct? And they're setting all the different policies for how many vaccines, is that correct? Exactly.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Well, they have in New Zealand what they call a socialist system where it's capitation. So the doctors get a three-monthly slab of money if they do what the government says and one of the requirements is a certain uptake of vaccines and what's really interesting with it too is that how they classify whether someone's been vaccinated or not so for example with COVID what people keep getting reminders you know to say come in come in come in because it's to do with their funding and how the the target they're supposed to reach and so the way to get off that system from the medical practices perspective is to say we're going to class you as what was it and ineligible so this this is this is why in new zealand you'll see these
Starting point is 00:37:06 ridiculous statistics and they'll say all this area of new zealand had 98 uptake it's because many of the people who were not injected said they didn't want it and then they'd put ineligible no that's a refusal as how it should have gone down and i mean this is nothing new um we've exposed this before with the CDC statistics with things like tetanus they will say things like you're unvaccinated if you couldn't remember when your last vaccine was done so this is a long-term trick that's been done and it's often used to try to make out that vaccines are effective and safe and all this kind of stuff when the statistics simply do not back that up. And the big teller is, and we didn't know this either
Starting point is 00:37:50 until we started researching in 2020, just look up randomised control trials involving vaccines and there are virtually none. And the ones that they do have are so preposterous, like the follow-up is for a week or a month. That's it. They don't follow them after that. Or they do crossovers where the people that didn't get it then get it,
Starting point is 00:38:12 so that you can't see any of the long-term effects that might have happened. Because otherwise it's unethical. And also there are a couple of randomized control trials that Sam and the team mentioned in Vipersmania, where they had worse outcomes for the ones that were getting very bad in terms of death rates. But of course they don't publish, well they do publish, but then they quickly sweep them under the carpet and pretend that it didn't happen. And you probably, you may have got to that chapter of the book
Starting point is 00:38:42 where we point out what happened when the United States Dr. Paul Thomas collected his own statistics on childhood vaccines. And he said, guys, major problem here, that all the kids getting vaccines are having far more of these so-called autoimmune disorders and allergies, disruptions in their behavior, et cetera. And he said, this is one of the biggest data sets ever being collected. What was the response in the United States? They revoked his medical licence and said they would prosecute him.
Starting point is 00:39:14 So, I mean, this is the outrageous situation. And people have to understand that if you're going to see a licensed MD, most of them are restricted by legislation. By money. Yeah. A, they are incentivized, and B, they will be punished severely if they go against the vaccine narrative. Well, and so I really appreciate both of you, you know, putting your career behind you, in a sense, so that you can tell the truth and follow the science wherever it goes
Starting point is 00:39:45 let me uh let's get back to the contagion stuff uh we definitely all agree on on the vaccine thing um i thought it was very interesting when you talked about the uk's um common cold unit uh i'd never heard of that something that they operated for about 50 years 1946 to 1990 so about 45 years 44 years uh tell people about that what they did at their common cold unit well it was a bit of a holiday park really it was a it was a it was a getaway for involving coronavirus apparently yeah it was a the housewives and things that were just a little bit, wanted a bit of a holiday, they could book into the common cold unit where they were discovering lots of different, you know, trying to find out the cause of the common cold. point out an excellent book too yeah by the australian author daniel reuters just published recently can you catch a cold because he looks at this stuff in great detail and he looks at 200 plus transmission studies uh which really go against this whole contagion model anyway the
Starting point is 00:40:59 common cold unit so they were convinced that because common colds, you know, cause the British population to have so many days off work, that wouldn't it be great just to get to the bottom of it and work out what caused them and how to stop them, et cetera. And it became apparent, you know, pretty early on that they were not really getting anywhere with, A, trying to work out what exactly caused them, or B, how to prevent them. So instead what they resorted to was discovering, quote, viruses.
Starting point is 00:41:31 And this is where everything you've heard about adenoviruses, rhinoviruses, coronaviruses, it all stems, or a lot of it stems from this common cold unit that was operating just after World War II. And what they were doing was basically just people would come in with symptoms of a cold and the virologist would take a sample of snot from their nose and he would put it in a vial and he would say, I have just isolated a new virus. Actually. I have just isolated a new virus and we were looking at it going
Starting point is 00:42:09 how did, well he said look I put it in this file and I put a label on the side and I'm going to call this one an adenovirus or a coronavirus and they simply did experiments by adding things like ether etc and saw if it broke down and on these sort of indirect measures they said that they were discovering these contagious entities but i mean it was it was farcical because for four decades um they basically came up with nothing now keep in mind they were trying to invent vaccines and when they closed the unit down they basically said look it's it's not
Starting point is 00:42:46 possible we've tried it with um these entities and it just um there's just nothing doing basically and it was the same with the pharmaceuticals they came up with no drugs etc so we didn't know about this i mean at medical school they don't teach you these things. And what they show you is the fake highlights reel, which just shows you all these papers purporting to show, quote, viruses. But when you look at the methodology, all of the problems we've just discussed, no isolation of the physical particle, no independent variable in any of their experiments. And many times they found that people and this is really important
Starting point is 00:43:28 would get the symptoms if they expected to get the symptoms so they were sneezed on by someone and they were told this person has a cold and you may now get the cold and the next day the person would say yes my throat is a bit scratchy or whatever and then they would say oh well actually the original person didn't have a cold so we're not sure what's going on here or they would put inert substances like just saline just salt water and drop that up someone's nose and you know they did attempt to do some uh well you can't really call them controls because they still didn't have an independent variable but they tried to they would put completely inert
Starting point is 00:44:07 substances up people's noses and then say we have just infected you with the virus, sure enough within hours the person's coming down with what looks like a cold and then they tell them oh no sorry actually that was just normal saline and then within hours everything disappears and they go back
Starting point is 00:44:24 to normal so amazing the psychological effects and to see but in general these so-called highly contagious entities were not shown to be anything of the sort and most of the time they really struggle to get sick people to make well people unwell and and perhaps too I think we should point out some classic examples here of particularly men who have worked in stations around the Arctic Circle and these highly remote areas where they are not in contact with anyone for weeks months at a time they also get these cold and flu symptoms yeah it's very cold that's what you're always saying it was like the temperature that's why people called it a call uh george washington goes out riding uh by himself
Starting point is 00:45:11 uh and and the cold and and he he gets very sick and they bring the doctors in and they basically removed most of his blood and gave him massive amounts of mercury and yeah he died that's the kind of uh but i i said you know when we look at all this stuff it really is talking about the psychosomatic stuff there uh the science in this is really mostly behavioral science we saw uh throughout all this but we've been told all these years that um you know they can't find a common cold a common cold cure because it keeps mutating and we saw we heard that same stuff throughout all the COVID stuff. We've heard it throughout all the years when they try to sell the flu shot, the same type
Starting point is 00:45:53 of thing. And the way that they marketed the COVID pandemic and the way they marketed the vaccine at the beginning was very similar in the United States to the way they always marketed the annual flu shot, scaring everybody about it and saying, you know, well, we got a massive number of cases here and you're going to have to get this because it's going to minimize how bad this case is going to be for you. Same stuff, recycled that they've been doing for years and years. Yeah. And I think another important point to bring up is the psychological priming that goes on with things like movies and press release science so we are the public is
Starting point is 00:46:31 conditioned to expect this is what's going to happen with a pandemic and there were so many movies like that that were brought out to kind of so that when we actually see it we're kind of expecting it and go oh yes this is this is in my memory i there's something there that um you know it feels really familiar and so conditioned response um to to that yeah and i think too not only within the hollywood and tv sector have they been preparing the public particularly since the 1990s that's when a whole lot and we were coming off the back of the, you know, the fake HIV epidemic. You know, AIDS is something that's a real syndrome, but the cause of it is not what they've been telling people. And so we had these movies, of course, like Philadelphia, and, you know, they really did scare the public.
Starting point is 00:47:18 And then on top of that, we had Outbreak and Contagion and all these other movies, which were massive, massive blockbusters, and they became almost more popular in 2020 when people started watching them again, thinking that that represented some kind of reality. And as you say, I mean, they will just make up a story, like it's mutating. So that just simply means that you can take some samples and detect some new genetic sequences and then claim,
Starting point is 00:47:46 hey, presto, it's a variant or it's mutated. But all of these things come back to these unfalsifiable hypotheses. It's not scientific. Even the whole concept, and I know this really pushes people and it's taken some unravelling for us as well, given our training and immunology etc is that we don't believe in this concept of immunity that they have presented in medical science because it's unfalsifiable they just say to you well why didn't i get it so people will
Starting point is 00:48:18 look at the human transmission experiments like the rosenail one sam talked about from spanish flu era and people will say well obviously they were immune that's why they didn't get it so how can you prove that so now that's the excuse they're using they're saying well you know we'd say to people why didn't we get this entity called COVID because we didn't do any of the face masks or social distancing we were out and about in the community we didn't take any of the products and the vaccines, and yet we didn't get sick. Well, people say you must be immune.
Starting point is 00:48:51 And this is just, how could you possibly, how's that a scientific notion? You can't falsify it. And we've done deep dives into the antibodies, for instance, which they try and claim indicate immunity, and that simply is inconsistent because they are not specific. They do not relate to some sort of clinical condition necessarily. And, yeah, so there's so much unraveling to do.
Starting point is 00:49:17 And certainly for us, there appears to be years of work ahead. But, you know, given, and we point this out in the book, look what we're up against here these are billion dollar industries you know there's hundreds of billions of dollars that people are making and covid19 was one of the biggest wealth transfers of all time it's one of the all-time record holders the population just got absolutely fleeced. Most people don't understand how it happened or exactly why it happened, but you could see from 2020 what they were doing and why the population was going to end up poor. And a small number of corporations and vested interests
Starting point is 00:49:59 were going to end up with far more resources. Yes. It is so ingrained in our language and our concepts. So we talk about something, you know, going viral, you know, a video or meme going viral, or we talk about, um, a computer virus. And there's just so many different ways that they have put that in there. And of course, massive marketing, uh, the drumbeat, uh, that we have seen in the last four years of obvious patent lies i mean but just
Starting point is 00:50:27 repeat it over and over again it's very effective but but let's talk and we mentioned it just briefly so one last thing i'd like to cover before uh before you go and um we mentioned it and as you're talking about the fact that we don't have an isolation, we don't have the proper scientific studies, it's kind of anecdotal. But just a simple case, I know you've got an entire video about rabies that you have on your website where you talk about that. And again, the website is drsambailey.com. So you've got a video about rabies, but let's talk about something that's really common. You know, these childhood diseases that kind of began all of these vaccine movements. When I was younger, we didn't have measles vaccines and everything.
Starting point is 00:51:19 So we would get together and then all of a sudden, you know, red spots start appearing. What is your idea about what is going on with that? That's the, I think, the real, the experiential hurdle that's difficult for people to get over. Yeah, so I guess with children, they've got a very large skin surface area. And our skin is the largest organ so it's one of the easiest ways for the body to eliminate um toxic buildup i guess filth from from inside the body and so rashes are essentially an expression of that and you often see children uh have rashes it's kind of you know the end of a healing crisis because it's trying to eliminate. We've actually made videos on measles and chickenpox parties specifically to address
Starting point is 00:52:12 this. Oh good. It's such a common thing. But in terms of it, we tend to, as we grow up, we have other ways that are more efficient at removing, you know, build-up, but essentially that's the... Yeah, and I guess, David, it comes back to what we talked about earlier, is that Sam and I always go to the foundational documents and say, well, where is a controlled study that shows the spread? Because we know about these anecdotal stories, and it's easy to counter
Starting point is 00:52:42 with other anecdotal stories. For instance, when I was about 10 or 11, I was diagnosed with chickenpox. I was in a household of six. No one else got sick. None of my classmates got sick. Apparently, it's highly contagious, and yet nobody around me seemed to have it or get it. But that's what the family doctor told us is what I had. And the other thing is we do not deny that people get sick in clusters. So if you go to a birthday party and afterwards half of the kids break out in a rash, probably the best thing to do is to look at what they were exposed to at the party. Because if they were eating things that have colourings, whether they're soft drinks or lollies, et cetera, that's enough for a child to break out in a rash
Starting point is 00:53:30 if they ingest these synthetic chemicals that are now put into foods. There are all sorts of factors that Daniel Reuters has outlined in his book, Can You Catch a Cold?, about clusters of illness that were put down at the time to germs that later were found to be environmental toxins, psychological influences, and nutritional deficiencies. So a whole lot of, yeah, and this is what we find. One thing that has really encouraged us,
Starting point is 00:54:01 particularly in the last year or so, more and more people around the world are now contacting us saying, look, we recently had this sickness in our family. Once upon a time, I would have put it down to a germ or a virus, et cetera. This time, I put that aside and thought, what did we do? What exactly did we do in the last week? And people are starting to identify things, you know, whether it's something they ate
Starting point is 00:54:26 or whether it's a place they went to visit and possibly got exposed to some sort of chemical, etc. So that's what we need to encourage, not this silly, oh, it's a germ, someone else made me sick. We're no further ahead. Nobody knows anything at that point. We're stuck in the same silly model. So, yeah, I would encourage people to, if you're thinking measles,
Starting point is 00:54:50 chickenpox, what about these parties, et cetera, please watch Sam's videos where she does a dive into these topics and exposes the actual science and the actual claims behind these things. Because another thing, just really quickly, I wanted to bring up is that there was something I didn't realize with virology and and just infectious diseases in general is that all the assumptions are based on just a couple of papers so these scientific papers that were made and everything else they just constantly cite back to those original studies because people sometimes say well we've got new studies now that show that so it's the same with you know covert and sars-cov-2 they you know there's literally
Starting point is 00:55:30 thousands and thousands of studies but the only ones that are important are the original foundational ones and that's what we always go to and unpick for people and show how farcical it is because then everything else follows on from it and people can see that all these are just assertions these are assumptions and say well those guys did it so you know we're going to carry on from those assumptions yeah it is a group think it's an echo chamber and as you point out and you show many examples of it in your book, the fundamental papers are something that they didn't do science at all. And when you talk about the anecdotal thing, it made me think of 2009. I was diagnosed with swine flu.
Starting point is 00:56:17 I had really bad pneumonia. And they diagnosed me with swine flu. But nobody else in the family got it. My wife didn't get it. Nobody got it. So, yeah, it is interesting. And I think it's very important for us to look at it and your focus is now on what we can do to make ourselves healthier instead of as you said before instead of a focus on disease you're focused more on health is that correct yeah and just my biggest
Starting point is 00:56:41 focus from the beginning is to reduce people's fear because I think fear is the massive driver of illness and people get they and behavior they do crazy things because they think they're going to get circle and once you understand that this is a myth this germs don't cause disease it's so empowering and enlightening and it makes you see the world in a different way. And that's my focus is just to reduce people's fear and go, you don't need us. I mean, we're reformed doctors.
Starting point is 00:57:15 We're like, you know, we're not. I don't want to be associated with that group anymore. But I'm like, become your own doctor. You know, we want to teach people how to be well so they don't need us anymore. Yeah, and it is. I mean, for us, David, it was amazing that our health as a family has improved so much since 2020. We always thought we were healthy and we thought, well, we're trained doctors and we know this and that. And we didn't actually.
Starting point is 00:57:40 We missed a huge amount of it. And since that time, we've reformed the way we eat, the way we interact as a family, the water that we drink. And nowadays. And spiritually. Spiritually as well. Much more connected and much more understanding of this beautiful world that God's given us, that it has been created in perfection
Starting point is 00:58:01 and it's up to us to make sure that continues rather than ruin it and one of the big things for us is um and i think all parents should take this message home is that there's no such thing as these childhood diseases there's just parental neglect and i know that sounds harsh and it took us a bit of time to get used to this but when your children do get sick you have to reflect well what did i do you know I've missed something here and we have found with our own children that they have just got they've tried more and more as mum and dad moved out of the old allopathic germ theory paradigm and into the paradigm of saying what can we actually do to make things better and and it has worked that's a great note
Starting point is 00:58:46 to end on yeah fear is contagious isn't it um that is one thing we can attest to the psychological fear that is there as you're talking about connecting spiritually that's um i've been told that is the one phrase that is in the bible more than anything else fear not uh so we will end it on that uh it is the mind killer it destroys us and that's the thing that we need to push back again people uh the um the website is dr sam bailey a d r s a m b i b a i l e y.com the book is the final pandemic and uh this is the way that we end medical tyranny it's the antidote to medical tyranny by dr. mark Bailey and dr. Samantha Bailey thank you so much for joining us it's great talking to you thank you David we're big
Starting point is 00:59:35 fans it's been a pleasure yeah thank you David keep doing what you're doing thank you appreciate that and again their website as well as their books are wealth of information they lay it out there for you but they have references to all these other things and videos about the measles parties it's like that so a great source of information and we really do need to get to the bottom of this I am tired of being jerked around by these people we are lying to me and ripping me off and stealing everything that we've got. I think it's enough.
Starting point is 01:00:09 We need to figure out their game and expose it. And that's a great resource to do it. Thank you so much. And thank you all for joining us. Have a good day. Let me tell you, the David Knight Show you can listen to with your ears. You can even watch it by using your eyes. In fact, if you can hear me, that means you're listening to the David Knight Show right now.
Starting point is 01:00:42 Yeah, Good job. And you want to know something else? You can find all the links to everywhere to watch or listen to the show at thedavidknightshow.com. That's a website. Succulents Sous-titrage ST' 501 Thank you. Terima kasih telah menonton! Thank you. As you pointed out, I believe that you can never truly own your property if you are under the threat that the government can take it from you because you fall behind on your semi-annual rent payment to them they call property taxes as rent so so i believe that we need to do away with this tax in perpetuity. So I've said in Indiana, we have a 7% sales tax. So let's make it seven years, 1% of the purchase price for seven years maximum. Now, if you can pay that at closing, either in cash or by rolling it into your mortgage and amortizing it over a 30-year period,
Starting point is 01:04:47 then you're done. If you can't, you pay it 1%, escrow it into your mortgage like you're doing now, and at the end of seven years, you're done. All right, folks, and if you want to defend the American dream, you better start locally. And that's why we're going to talk local and state government. That's why I was open to it. I interviewed Donald Rainwater, who had run for governor in 2020. We've talked about what was happening during that period of time. And he got national attention because he jumped up so high in the polls because he's about the only politician in any party that was really tackling this pandemic nonsense.
Starting point is 01:05:35 And he did a great job of doing that. And so he is back and he is running for governor yet again. The rainwater for Indiana dot com rainwater. And it's F-O-R. Indiana.com is his website. But we're going to talk about why he's running, what the issues are. So thank you for joining us, Donald Rainwater. Appreciate it.
Starting point is 01:05:54 Oh, well, David, thank you so much for having me. I really appreciate the opportunity. Well, I'm glad to have you on. And I think I want to talk about issues because we have everything focused on the two parties and everybody is so focused on just the two parties focused on personalities and not focused on issues. And it's killing us. I mean, these agendas that are out there and everything else, nobody is paying attention to that. They're so distracted in this personality competition. It's like it's some kind
Starting point is 01:06:25 of a beauty contest or a talent show or something uh so let's talk about issues tell us first of all why you're running in indiana you know what are the important issues for you well you know first of all uh first and foremost as a libertarian i believe in uh limited very limited government and the safeguarding and as thomas as Thomas Jefferson wrote in the Declaration of Independence, to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men. And so I believe that we need to refocus our government at every level on safeguarding every individual's rights equally and reducing the size and scope of government.
Starting point is 01:07:08 It is much more difficult for someone with ill intent to utilize government in an inappropriate way if government isn't strong enough to be used in that way. So I'm very intent on reducing the size and scope of government. And I heard you talk about the federal government and the importance of state government as well. And one of the things that I tell folks in Indiana is that I believe that the Constitution of the United States
Starting point is 01:07:50 is a fence around the federal government intended to keep it within its intended purpose. The slats in that fence are the 50 states. The problem is that we've allowed the slats to fall down on the job. Our states are not holding the federal government accountable. Instead, they're standing there with their hand out, asking for more money, much like Oliver Twist. And so the federal government now has the upper hand,
Starting point is 01:08:27 and that's how things get out of whack. So I am running for governor of the state of Indiana because I want to reduce the size and scope of government, and I also want to grab the Ninth Amendment with one hand and the Tenth Amendment with the other and tell the federal government to back off. Good, good. Yeah, I just read an op-ed piece the other day. I think it was from Brownstone.
Starting point is 01:08:54 I'm not sure. It might have been from Mises. They said every one of these candidates for president or be any office actually should be asked these two questions. What is the purpose of government questions what is the purpose of government what is the purpose of government uh you know and what is its rightful role in our lives and nobody ever asked them something like that that's uh that would be so telling i imagine most of them would say the purpose of government is to keep us safe right you know i've heard that. I've also heard one of my opponents made the comment here a while back that conservatism is government not spending more than it takes in.
Starting point is 01:09:36 And I think that that's an atrocious assumption. Government conservatism is government doesn't take in more than it needs to do its job. That's how Calvin Coolidge defined it. He said that when government takes in more than it needs, that's legalized robbery. And I agree with him. Yeah. And it really needs to come from the standpoint of understanding what the proper role of government is. Uh, you know we
Starting point is 01:10:05 absolutely need to make government small enough to fit in the constitution and if it gets that small we're not going to really worry about how it is financed i mean we it'd be such a small tax i think it was ron paul who said that if we got the government to fit inside the constitution the way that we raise the taxes wouldn't really matter because it would be so small that uh we really wouldn't notice it but yeah the problem is that it's gotten so large and so the problem that we see in washington one of the reasons why a solution i believe is not going to come out of washington the solution is being to keep washington in washington and far away from us uh but the the problem is all of the money and when you look at the fact that Lala Harris got $500 million,
Starting point is 01:10:48 half a billion dollars in one month, that was five times the amount that George W. Bush got in 2020 and 2000, I should say. And he was accused of trying to buy the election by Al Gore, who only got 70 million, but she gets 500 million in one month. Why is that there?
Starting point is 01:11:06 Well, it's because an election is an advance auction of stolen goods. And these people know they're not donating, they're investing. And they're going to get more than they put in, a lot more. And so that's one of the reasons I think it's growing. And I think it's growing at the state level. And so let me ask you, when you look at this at the state level, what is typical for your opponents, Republicans and Democrats, to be spending on their campaign? What kind of money are they talking about, roughly, when you're a gubernatorial competition Democrat and Republican?
Starting point is 01:11:36 I'm sure your budget is not anywhere close to that. You're out there doing this as a citizen. But what are they taking in well i i you know i i know that uh they're taking in millions of dollars um and i'll be honest with you i am more much more concerned with what our general assembly is taking in and how they're spending it. To give you a good example of that, at the beginning of 2023, we had a $4.5 billion surplus in Indiana. So the General Assembly found a way to spend 25 billion dollars spend that 4.5 billion surplus down so that then for 2024 and 2025 budgets they made sure that they spent in the budget the money they thought they were going to be able to receive
Starting point is 01:12:51 so that there would not be a surplus that they had to give back to the citizens. And that, I think, is an example of this idea that, well, it's conservative for me to say that we don't spend more than we take in and that assumption is that we can figure out how to get it out of your pocket we're going to spend it and we don't care whether you need it or not and i think that's uh both unethical and immoral yes uh and i think that this is part of the problem that we have in Indiana. One of our big issues right now, most all citizens are frustrated with property taxes, because even though we have
Starting point is 01:13:37 a constitutional amendment in Indiana that says that residential property tax is 1% of the assessed value of the property, they reassess every year. And they keep making that assessment go higher and higher, which means that people's property taxes go up. And if their property taxes are escrowed into their mortgage, that means their mortgage payment goes up every year. We've got senior citizens who've had their forever homes where all their memories of raising their children and all of their other significant events through their life have taken place.
Starting point is 01:14:21 And now they've paid off their mortgage, but they can't keep their home because they're on a fixed income and they can't afford their property taxes anymore yes and our state government doesn't seem to care they're more worried about uh funneling money to economic development commissions at both local and at the state level. We have an Indiana Economic Development Corporation that was just given a $50 million budget increase to go out and attract large
Starting point is 01:15:03 corporations to come to Indiana, build, create new jobs, because we are at the lowest unemployment in the history of the state right now, and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce says that we actually have a worker shortage for every 100 available jobs. We are missing 25 people to fill those 100 jobs. And so instead of making cost of living lower in Indiana, we're bringing in all these new jobs and then having those jobs filled by Hoosiers who are leaving small businesses, and then the small businesses, the Hoosier entrepreneurs that have been trying to build and invest in Indiana their whole lives are not able to staff their businesses and so we now in Indiana over the last decade have a net loss in small businesses and individual franchisees and this to me along with our loss of family farming is causing an economic crisis in Indiana when the state government doesn't care because what they're looking for is this corporatist
Starting point is 01:16:32 style of government. Yes. And I vehemently oppose that. Yes. And we saw that in 2020 and you were speaking to that issue when you were running in 2020, the fact that absolutely mom and pop stores on main street were non-essential but the big box stores from wall
Starting point is 01:16:52 street they were essential they could stay open but the small mom and pop service businesses couldn't stay open so they're coming after the small mom and pop service businesses are coming after the farms the family farms and things like that they're coming after every kind of business that is um uh you know done by individuals uh they absolutely it's the big corporations that are declared um essential and it is what the government at every level really is is serving that interest to uh to drive out their competition and to make sure that we don't have any businesses. That's the key thing. What kind of, now you said that you've got more jobs and you've got people to fill them in Indiana.
Starting point is 01:17:33 What was the outcome from the lockdown that you see there? I guess you don't have a big city. Are you having a, you probably don't have the kind of commercial real estate problems that we're seeing on the coasts in California and New York, I guess, right? Well, I don't think to the same extent. What we are seeing, because I believe that the way that the Indiana state government handled the pandemic. We saw a lot of folks who had to innovate and create new means of income. I think that the gig economy was a place where folks found a lot of that. And so a lot of this worker shortage is actually a result of folks who were told they couldn't go to work during the pandemic, finding other ways to make income.
Starting point is 01:18:35 And when the state opened back up, those folks said, oh, no, fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. I'm not coming back. No, I'm going to make sure that I have the means to take care of my household and my family, and I'm not going to get, which is here again, why I think we have such a problem with this attitude that government should be force-feeding a large corporate economy to the state of Indiana. Because what we're really doing is we're saying we have a limited number of people, we're going to flood the state with jobs, and it's going to force small businesses
Starting point is 01:19:29 either out of the market or they're going to have to raise their level of salary, wages, and benefits to match what we're bringing in. Well, you know, I hear a lot of Republicans complain about Democrats trying to increase the minimum wage. Well, when Republicans are bringing in all of these high paying jobs and basically enticing workers away from small businesses, you're really doing the same thing. What you're saying is if you want to compete, you're going to have to raise your wages to match these big corporations. This is picking winners and losers once again. And I think it is abhorrent that our government takes it upon themselves to manipulate the economy in that way.
Starting point is 01:20:27 That is not free market principles. The free market principle is if we encourage people to come here, and there are plenty of people who fill the jobs, then the jobs will come on their own. And then all of that can be done in a very organic way. But when you're giving corporations 35 or 50-year sales and use tax exemptions, as they're doing with Amazon Web Services in the South Bend area and Meta down in the Jeffersonville area, what you get are these huge corporations who are getting,
Starting point is 01:21:16 you know, they're not even, it's not just the sales tax exemption for 35 or 50 years on the equipment for these data centers, which is a lot of money. Yeah. But it's also that they get a 35 or 50 year use tax or sales tax exemption on their electric bill for a data center. Yeah. Those data centers are going to really shed, putting such a burden on the infrastructure.
Starting point is 01:21:51 We've got here in Tennessee, we've got the TVA is going to jump up the electricity prices by five and a half percent. Part of that is the fact that they want to go to renewables, which means that they've then got to buy these very expensive battery energy storage sites, which are a massive fire hazard. So it's an extremely expensive form of energy that's being imposed on us because of climate fear.
Starting point is 01:22:17 And as you point out, they're going to bring these companies in, give them heavy subsidies on energy usage, which is going to drive the price of energy up sky high for everybody else if they can even get it. That's the issue as well. Well, and the reality is when I go around the state of Indiana and I talk to people and I ask people, how many of you are small business owners and you get 10 or 15 folks raising their hand and you look at them and say has the state of indiana ever offered you a sales tax exemption on your electric bill
Starting point is 01:22:55 and they look at you and go no they have course job because you know in their mind, you're not big enough to worry about. And I find it terribly offensive that in our state constitution, we have in our state constitution's Bill of Rights, a clause that says that the state government will not provide any privilege to any citizen or group of citizens that is not provided to all now what they do is they say well you know anybody who invests 800 billion dollars in the state of indiana can get this privilege. That, to me, is, again, immoral and unethical. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It is deciding that some groups are essential
Starting point is 01:23:53 and others are not essential, and it is violating the market principles. Look, I've seen this type of thing forever. We used to see it predominantly at the state level, local level. We'd usually see it with big professional stadiums, and those things kept going up and up you know first it's a couple hundred million then it's up to a billion dollars for a stadium and now you know to infinity and beyond with this stuff but you know that that was that that kind of subsidy for certain businesses is again the government picking winners and losers and usually they pick those winners and losers based on who's putting money in their pockets.
Starting point is 01:24:27 Politicians are some of the best investments that anybody can ever make, and they're not donating stuff, but they're making investments. I've got, well, we're talking about money here, and you talked about the surplus that Indiana had. I don't know if that's coming from some of the COVID cash that they got. I know that California was looking looking before all this covid nonsense they were looking at a deficit of tens of billions i forget what the exact numbers were then all of a sudden they got so much money out of washington out of the trump administration that they had um you know like 100 billion dollar subs uh uh excess
Starting point is 01:25:01 and they quickly ran through that with all kinds of new spending programs. And now they're looking at deficits of tens of billions again. So they just ran through all that cash. But I got a question here from a listener DGA on rumble. And thank you for the tip. Appreciate that said, David, could you please ask Mr. Rainwater about how much power and funding to violate the state's
Starting point is 01:25:21 constitution? The federal emergency order Trump signed on march the 13th 2020 gave to these governors you know what kind of largesse did they get i mean of course we all know this is what the federal government does it hands out a lot of money whether it's department of education or something else to get the policies done that they want they bribe them and then later on after the people after they get hooked on this money they can use that to blackmail them and say you know it'd be a shame if you lost that all that money that you've gotten used to uh what happened in terms of covid cash and uh in 2020 in indiana that you can speak to well i i don't know specifically as far as covid cash. But I will tell you, here's what we know.
Starting point is 01:26:09 In the state of Indiana in 2019, the year before the pandemic started, the state budget was around $16 billion for the general fund and about $26 billion with federal money. In the four years since, we now have a state budget spending last year of about $26 billion. And that's for the general funds. So that's about a $10 billion increase. And with federal funds, it's a $20 billion increase. So we've added a significant amount of money to our state spending,
Starting point is 01:27:13 to our state budget, because of the increased funding from the federal government. And the problem that we have with this, of course, is that, once again, if government is flush with cash, then people are desperate to do whatever they can to get control of that money, which is why what we see in politics is uh the you know why are republicans and democrats able to raise millions of dollars but donald rainwater can't because donald rainwater is not for sale.
Starting point is 01:28:12 As you mentioned earlier, um, these folks that put money into campaigns, uh, do so as an investment because they know they're going to get a lot out. And when I go out here and I say, I want to reduce spending, I want to reduce taxation. I want to reduce the budget. That does not make me attractive to those folks who want to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars investing in their ability to manipulate the government for their benefit. That's right. Which is why my, you know my campaign we've we've raised
Starting point is 01:28:47 a little over a hundred thousand dollars uh and the vast majority of that has come in the twenty fifty hundred dollar uh amounts from citizens who are tired of state government and local government um taking advantage of them yes and so we've got a lot of a lot of that now if any of your listeners are uh genuinely concerned about better government not bigger bigger government. As you told them, they can go to rainwater for indiana.com. And I've got a donate button there for PayPal. And I've got a separate one for debit credit. And if they want to make a big donation, I'd be more than happy to take. That's right.
Starting point is 01:29:40 But you're not for sale. And that's the key thing. And that's the way that they not even for rent. Rent for all for rent for four years yeah we'll uh work for subsidies yeah the uh when we talk about that i mentioned many times i know i talked to people in idaho at the time this stuff was happening in 2020 brad little the governor there the republican governor there was given several times what the entire state budget was out of washington and it was money that he could spend at his discretion and so of course you know that's a big powerful political um plum that you've got there big political leverage that
Starting point is 01:30:19 you have that can help you get elected help to do all kinds of things for yourself personally. When we see somebody getting a massive endowment like they did with Pete Buttigieg, giving him control of like $200 billion for infrastructure, that's something he could use to feather his nest politically with a lot of people and make friends with them. And so essentially that's what was happening with a lot of these governors, both Republican and Democrat, during the lockdown with that kind of money. And when we look at the corporations,
Starting point is 01:30:51 when they invest in these politicians, it's a regular fee. If you go back and you look at what that corporation later gets and look at how much they donated, usually they're getting a couple of thousand percent return on investment. I mean, there just isn't any better investment you can make than a politician.
Starting point is 01:31:09 So we were talking earlier, and you have some very specific ideas about what you would do to help people on property tax, for example. Talk about that, because this is something that affects all Americans in every state. And this is something people could start to push their politicians and their state to do something about uh talk a little bit about uh your your ideas about uh property tax relief because nobody can own property in the united states as long as we've got these high property taxes absolutely and of course i tell people as a libertarian, in a perfect world, I would abolish property taxes entirely. When I suggested that four years ago, a lot of folks had their
Starting point is 01:31:55 heads explode. So what we've done is we've said, okay, let's kind of give people a pragmatic approach uh first of all we need to make sure that property taxes never go up nobody should be scared to find out that their property taxes are increasing so what i've proposed is that property taxes in the state of Indiana should be based on 1% of the purchase price of your property. Because I believe that the only true value of any item is what you paid for it until someone else pays you to buy it from you. Then you have a true value at that time based on what they paid you for it yes so in between and this is something that i i you know i find very uh ironic and a little hypocritical is here again when i hear folks talk about um uh the current vice president's idea of taxing unrealized gains and they throw a fit about that and then in the state of indiana we have republicans and democrats who want to tax the
Starting point is 01:33:19 unrealized gains of property and i think that's wrong so here again at first we want to make it one percent of the purchase price of your property it never goes up and then as you pointed out i believe that you can never truly own your property if you are under the threat that the government can take it from you because you fall behind on your semi-annual rent payment to them they call property taxes as rent so so i believe that we need to do away with this tax in perpetuity so i've said in indiana we have a 7% sales tax. So let's make it seven years. 1% of the purchase price for seven years maximum. Now, if you can pay that at closing,
Starting point is 01:34:15 either in cash or by rolling it into your mortgage and amortizing it over a 30-year period, then you're done. If you can't, you pay it 1%, escrowed into your mortgage like you're doing now, and at the end of seven years, you're done. One of the things that I keep pointing out to people is that if you pay 1% of the purchase price or 1% of the assessed value over a period of 30 years, you will have given your state and local government over a 30-year period over 30% of the equity in your home.
Starting point is 01:35:02 Wow. in your home, you have given them 30% of the investment that you made in your home. Now, the government hasn't done anything to earn that money. And when we talk about, one of the things that I hear a lot is, oh, well, you just want to defund the police. And I say, no, absolutely not. We have tax increment financing all over the state of Indiana that has been stealing property taxes from local governments for decades. We have 10-year tax abatements that our local governments can give to commercial and industrial businesses so that they don't have to pay property taxes for seven or eight years,
Starting point is 01:36:06 depending upon how much their quote-unquote investment is, how many jobs they create. And so what you're talking about is really kind of having it go for seven years or whatever, 1% a year. You're talking about giving a property tax abatement on the back end uh that's correct for homeowners for the minute that's one way for absolutely but i really like the way that you explained this and your perspective of looking at this because typically we talk about uh the injustice of the property taxes and it is an injustice we are being taxed on government created inflation uh because absolutely they say that the price of your home is going up you know you you get a home and you you have it for 30 years and um you know maybe you're going to sell
Starting point is 01:36:57 it for 10 times what you paid for uh but um that home is not worth 10 times as much as it was it's 30 years old now maybe you know and and so it is not worth 10 times as much as it was it's 30 years old now maybe you know and and so it is not worth more it's just that your money is worthless and so that's a tax on the inflation that's there when you have these property taxes that are being re-evaluated all the time but i love what you're talking about in terms of the fact that people need to look at it since this is all being talked about now by the democrats it's great to talk about this as people refer to it as an unrealized gain uh to think about this and saying well what if we looked at your stocks and we say that you
Starting point is 01:37:35 had um in your um investment portfolio you had a hundred thousand dollars in stocks and now your stocks have gone up in value and they're 150 000 so we're going to tax going to tax you on that $50,000, but you're still holding it. That could go down and it could become a loss and that type of thing. Something that's actually true of your home. Your home can actually go down in value. We've seen that happen. Surprise a lot of people in the Great Recession and it may happen again. But that really is when you really evaluate this.
Starting point is 01:38:02 I like talking about it in terms of being taxed on a gain that you haven't taken, as opposed to talking about it in terms of an inflationary tax. And it causes people to lose their home if they're on a fixed income, and yet the price of their home is not fixed. That's a great way to look at it. That's a very important issue, and I'm glad that you're talking about that. People need to think about this in every state uh that is um something everybody ought to be making an argument for in terms of property tax and i also like your idea about the seven percent thing up front or paying one percent for seven years and then you're done uh that is also um very important uh the home is many cases not only the biggest but sometimes
Starting point is 01:38:47 the only investment that people in the middle class have and this is the government trying to take that away from people and they do it. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Talk a little bit about your your perspective on the gasoline tax as well because that's cool. Oh yeah. Yes Well, and there's, you know, um, there's constantly talk about gasoline prices and how high they are and how that, uh, uh,
Starting point is 01:39:13 unfairly impacts lower and middle income Hoosiers. And in, in the state of Indiana, we actually paid two separate state taxes on gasoline. We have a 7% use or sales tax, which is calculated on the average price across the state of Indiana of a gallon of gas for the previous month. So for the month of August, the use tax was 20.3 cents per gallon. But then we also have a gasoline excise tax that our General Assembly back in 2017 decided to index for inflation. They added 10 cents and then made it index for inflation,
Starting point is 01:40:08 so it goes up a penny a year minimum. It currently sits at 35 cents per gallon. So for every gallon of gas that a Hoosier buys, they are paying 20.3 cents in sales tax, 35 cents in excise tax, which is a 55.3 cent per gallon tax on gasoline just for the state. I believe the federal tax is currently 18 cents a gallon. And so 18 cents versus 55.33 seems to be a lot to me, and I personally don't believe that anyone should have to pay two taxes to the state of Indiana for the same product.
Starting point is 01:40:57 So I am advocating for the abolition of the state excise tax on gasoline. I'll take that a little further. We also pay 7% sales tax when we purchase a car, and then we are charged an excise tax every year to renew our license plates. I want to do away with the excise tax. On vehicles, all vehicles in the state of indiana you shouldn't have to pay two separate taxes to the same government agency for the same product yes good uh and so you know when you start to cut the taxes, what would you do to cut government spending?
Starting point is 01:41:46 Well, that's a great question. I'm so glad you asked that. You've got a long list, right? I bet you've got a long list. Well, you know, there's a real simple formula that I learned during the pandemic, was concerned that they might not raise all the revenue they were hoping for. Now, state bureaucracies in the state of Indiana, instructing them to cut their spending level, but their budget by 10 to 15%. When they did that, we ended up with a $6 billion surplus. So, and that's just out of the general fund spending that doesn't include the federal government money. So my proposal is that on the first day that Donald Rainwater's administration is in the governor's office, we will issue a memo that says, we're not in a pandemic, but we are in a financial crisis in the state of Indiana. People are suffering. People are hurting.
Starting point is 01:43:16 Hoosiers are having to make decisions about how they will fill their gas tank, pay their mortgage, feed their kids, clothe their kids. And so we're going to cut across the board 10 to 15%. No cuts in entitlements. I will tell you that even as a libertarian, I believe that entitlements are the last things we touch that's right they usually come after that first usually first right well that is to shut down a park you know
Starting point is 01:43:51 because that's what right it's the threat right exactly yeah absolutely it's here let me let me let me show you what we're going to do if you try to take my money away from me that's right and it's not their money it's our money we gave it to them actually they took it from us um but so much so my plan is uh during the first four years of my governorship my first term uh we will instruct all state agencies to cut their budget into 15% each year of the four years. I also know, as I mentioned earlier, that there's about a $10 billion vote in the state budget over the last four years. So I'm also going to go to the General Assembly and say, first of all, I would like you to freeze the budget. Secondly, I would like you to rewrite the budget
Starting point is 01:44:57 to be equivalent to what it was in 2019. Let's reduce our state spending by $10 billion that it has blown up, ballooned in the last four years, go back to 2019 spending levels, and then take that $10 billion and eliminate our state income tax. Because they say that if we got rid of the personal income tax in Indiana, it would cost $8 billion in revenue. So if I cut spending back to 2019 levels and reduce the budget by $10 billion, and if I reduce the revenue by 8 billion that means I'll
Starting point is 01:45:49 still have a new billion dollar surplus as a result yeah of cutting the budget and eliminating the state income tax because here again you, I believe firmly that the government should not have a claim, financial claim to our property. And when we allow them to take money from our paychecks, we are giving them a first right to our earned income. And I believe here again that that's immoral and unethical. So you'll notice I'm big on the idea that the government doesn't need all this money and that they're spending too much. And I've learned from being a little bit overweight that if I want to reduce my weight, I have to reduce the food I put in my mouth because I am not going to be able
Starting point is 01:46:58 to continue to cram food in my face and lose weight. So we have to reduce the taxes. You know, it'd be great if we could say, well, we're going to reduce all this spending, then we'll give people their money back. The reality is that our government at every level, local, county, state, federal, they are addicted to spending other people's money.
Starting point is 01:47:24 And the good news is that you point out since the pandemic uh they illustrate that they can do that it's not a theory uh they actually the governor comes out says we're going to cut across the board everybody cut your budget by this amount they can all go find something that they uh can reduce their spending on they've already done it in that state and so it's been demonstrated it's been done and they could do it again uh and that's the key thing it's it's good to hear somebody finally who focuses on the problems of the of the people of the middle class it's good to hear somebody who is focused on uh just offering the opportunity for you to actually own property that'd be the only state union where you could actually own property.
Starting point is 01:48:08 And imagine the number of people that would move to Indiana. Yeah. And we wouldn't have a worker shortage anymore. That's right. Our small business owners and individual franchisees would have plenty of opportunity to staff their businesses. Well, it's very important. And it's important for
Starting point is 01:48:25 people to hear this everywhere because you know that if when you propose this and you talk and you couch it in those terms where people can easily understand it uh i think that that's an important thing that could be taken to other places as well because when you're talking about getting rid of the income tax that was done here in tennessee and they wound up with a budget surplus even after they cut the state income tax. So we're not talking about theoreticals. These are things that have already been done. The question is, does anybody really care to try to do this, or do they want to just fall into the trap of voting for the big parties and never can think about voting for any independents or third parties. That's the real challenge for you, isn't it? Because, as I've said, they play the games of ballot access
Starting point is 01:49:10 and they play the game of debate access. If they had a debate that included you and the people of Indiana were able to hear what you want to do with property taxes, that would be huge. I would think that you have a chance. Well, they will be. Yeah. there are three
Starting point is 01:49:27 debates scheduled we are guaranteed to be in two of the three and the third one we are waiting for um the the company is nextar they own our fox affiliate and our CBS affiliate. And they have said, first they said I had to raise $100,000. So we got out there and raised our $100,000. And now I think they're trying to wait to see if there's a poll that comes out where I poll under 10. I have to poll over 10% on a poll if it comes out, or they can exclude me. But I'm definitely in two of the three debates. We debated four years ago in two debates. And you're absolutely right.
Starting point is 01:50:20 The number of people who have told me that they did not vote for me in 2020 because they didn't know who I was until they saw me in the debate after early voting started. And that now they are committed to voting for me this year because of exactly what you're talking about the fact that people understand and believe that there are common sense simple solutions to big government and that we need to be shrinking the size and scope of government if we want for example to fix our economy the the The bald-faced truth is that the inflation that we currently are saddled with was caused by government spending, and not just Democrat spending or Republican spending, just government spending, period. It's all of their faults, and they all need to be held accountable.
Starting point is 01:51:29 That's right. That's absolutely right. Yeah, you're going to have to put that in there because they're not going to ask any questions about that. You're going to have to put that in there and say, here's why I'm running. I know that you want to ask me, here's why I'm running because I want people to be able to own their homes. And you can't own your home now. If you put something in there like that, that'd be a killer i'm glad that you're going to be in the debates i'm really am surprised because we've had situations when i was with uh the libertarian party in north carolina
Starting point is 01:51:53 uh you know we'd work so hard to get on the ballot there and then they would always exclude us from the debates and the debates at that point in time back in the early 90s are being run by the press association the the statewide press association. They said, we don't want you on. Same thing that Fox is doing now, trying to move the goalposts on you and all the rest of this stuff. It truly is despicable. And in 2020, is everybody, oh, what about this election? It's like, yeah, of course, there's always, they're always messing with the vote totals and everything, but the rigging of the election really begins with the media and the excluding people from the debates and with the excluding of people off of the ballots that you don't even have a choice.
Starting point is 01:52:35 That's the key thing. So I'm glad you're going to be in two debates. That's excellent news. And we've talked a lot about money, but you also have some other issues, and it kind of is the center of an event that you're going to be doing. In September, September the 14th, you've got an event coming up. People can go to rainwater4indiana.com, and they can get information about this event. You're also doing that with a candidate for Congress, and this is about the Second Amendment. Tell people a little bit about that event you're also doing that with a candidate for congress and this is about the second amendment tell people a little bit about that event well we have a in terre haute indiana
Starting point is 01:53:11 we have a small business owner who is owns a gun shop and range and he is throwing an event for us to fundraise. Actually, the state party, the Libertarian Party of Indiana, is sponsoring the fundraising event there. And, you know, one of the things that is very important to me is the fact that I believe that the Second Amendment says shall not be infringed. And there's a period after that. There are no qualifications. It's not shall not be infringed unless you have a medical marijuana card or shall not be infringed unless we exercise our red flag laws against you.
Starting point is 01:54:03 It says shall not be infringed. And so we are very fortunate after we ran in 2020, the Indiana General Assembly saw fit to pass constitutional carry in Indiana, even though they had summarily for about a decade denied constitutional carry to Hoosiers, but after I spoke out fervently about it in 2020, they decided to go ahead and pass constitutional carry. Unfortunately, we do have red flag laws in the state of Indiana, which means that at any time the government can say, well, you're a member of this organization. We've determined that you all are brainwashed and have a mental defect and we're going to take your guns. And then you have to go to court to get them back. I don't, I don't like red flag laws for that reason. I believe, here again, the Second Amendment gives us what we need to make sure that all of the other amendments are upheld.
Starting point is 01:55:13 You don't have the First Amendment without the Second. that enforcing our right to keep and bear arms, period, end of sentence, is extremely important to our continued fight for freedom. And I do want to add, David, that when I say that, I think it is something that we as Americans, as Hoosiers, need to take very seriously. Our government is too big. It is too powerful. And we are in a daily fight to maintain and regain our freedoms. I agree. We are not a free people, as you said.
Starting point is 01:56:03 Madison said, if you can't own property, you are not free. And therefore, if we pay property taxes with the threat of it being taken away from us, if we get behind, we are able to send our children to because we can't afford private school is the public school and the government enforces that by making us pay taxes to fund the public school whether we want to send our children there or not yes we're not truly free that's true um yeah when you talk about the red flag law you know it is really a form of civil asset forfeiture another abomination from our government absolutely to take something from you you have no presumption of innocence you have to prove that you're innocent to get to get this back and so forth that's right we have taxation without representation really we have regulation
Starting point is 01:57:04 certainly without representation the important thing And we have regulation certainly without representation. The important thing, folks, when we talk about third party access and opening up the ballot is so that people can hear the types of things that you just heard from Donald Rainwater talking about a different way to fund the government, talking about actually being able to own our homes and not be forced out of them that is so important and if as he talked about the the gun issues in 2020 and brought them around to some of these issues that's the importance of actually having additional people on the ballot so that you can actually talk about issues and so that if they see support and if the people in indiana support
Starting point is 01:57:42 donald rainwater because he wants you to be able to own a home that's going to put even if he doesn't win that's going to put a lot of pressure on these people to actually do something like this guy why is this guy uh so popular was it because of what he said about property taxes or whatever well then maybe we should do something about that so we don't lose our position it can be very effective way to bring pressure and if you don't uh do anything at all they're going to continue to do what they've always done and that is to steal from you and make it a career for themselves it's so good talking to you and thank you for what you did in 2020 thank you for doing this again i'm very excited to hear that you're going to be in two debates that's great uh nail them with that property tax. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:58:25 Thank you so much for having me. Thank you. And again, you go to Rainwater4Indiana. That's F-O-R-Indiana.com. And you can find out about that. You can find out about the events that they've got coming up. You can actually get some meet-and-greet tickets where you can shoot guns with Donald and the other candidate there, Richard Fittzloff who's running for congress there uh and before we run out of time i just
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Starting point is 02:05:01 It's the good RNC. And so Richardson Nutrition nutrition center they promote wellness healthy living through the use of safe and effective dietary supplements help the body's natural healing processes uh when to get him back on we had a very interesting talk last time we talked about b17 and other things i've had a chance to sample some of his products as well. Thank you for joining us, John. My pleasure, David. As I said, you're one of my heroes, and so I've called you for a long time. And so it's actually a pleasure to get on with people that are like-minded so that we can let your audience know about these truths and bring it into what's going on right now,
Starting point is 02:05:43 right as we speak oh yeah and as we speak in just the last couple of days i mean we had uh yesterday i think it was kate middleton you know the uh future queen i guess um who's been struggling with cancer but they've been very closed-lipped about it they do not want her to even mention what kind of cancer she has at first it was just oh she's got some kind of a stomach issue whatever then they admitted that it was cancer but they won't say what kind of cancer it is of At first, it was just, oh, she's got some kind of a stomach issue or whatever. Then they admitted that it was cancer, but they won't say what kind of cancer it is. Of course, they do that with Charles as well. And she just finished a course of chemo. But I thought it was also interesting that at the same time we had Elle McPherson, model
Starting point is 02:06:19 and actress, people will remember. She also had cancer, but she treated it without chemo and said she beat it without chemo. And she talked in an article about all the struggles that she'd had with her family, because it's the way the medical community puts pressure on you and makes you afraid to try anything other than what they are offering.
Starting point is 02:06:46 And that's really the big obstacle that she had to overcome was to try to think outside the medical box that they put everybody into it's got a very interesting yeah it's fascinating because i have like three degrees of separation from uh from her and i i usually when i commit to that i'm going to get to talk to somebody she uh came out here to arizona and lived here eight months, you know, right in this in this neighborhood, basically, because, you know, Arizona, as people that don't know, is one of the freest states for nutritional therapy for all diseases. They have, you know, schools, they have educational institutes, they have Dr henry ely's out here there's we just had a doctor come by dr martin that came by the office and he used to use b17 regularly in the 70s and 80s and then he he told me it disappeared right about the time my dad disappeared they they uh whatever happened to my dad i can't you know i don't have any factual information about that. They took them out, but it sure is strange that three of the most prominent doctors using B 17 and a layer trail and the treatment of the C word were all died within six months of each other back in the late eighties.
Starting point is 02:07:55 Wow. Wow. Yeah. with um carrie mullis and the pcr test you know just before this whole thing rolled out that pcr test that was used by fauci uh to give the impression that they were measuring things legitimately that they were doing real science and measurement and everything that he called fauci a fraud in the way that he said you're abusing that you're trying you can't prove that there's an hiv virus that's causing AIDS by using my PCR thing. He says, whatever's causing it.
Starting point is 02:08:27 He said, what you're doing is not science. So he disappeared at that point in time as well. I mean, when you look at what the pharmaceutical companies are doing, when they know what they're doing, and this is now coming out over and over again, when you look at the vaccines and everything, they knew with tests the adverse effects that were happening significantly and in the past uh when there was an oppositional fda
Starting point is 02:08:51 they would stop when there was um far less uh risk and far less harm they would stop these drugs but now they know they can do anything that they wish and so uh if if they have that kind of a calculation where they really don't care how many people they hurt or kill uh there's not really anything that's going to stop them from whatever they want to do if they're strictly focused on the money it's truly amazing yeah well let's say the whole system is made that way no drug gets approved unless it's profitable uh no fda approvals on vitamins there's no fda approval on zinc or vitamin c you can't as a physician legally uh tell your patient you're treating their cancer with vitamin c even though linus pauling won um you know awards back
Starting point is 02:09:39 in the 70s and 80s so it's really a situation where people are waking up from it because of this COVID. Unfortunately, we had to go through this medical tyranny, but people are truly waking up to the fact that we've been lied to about so many things. And the good thing for me is that God has given me all of this material to where I feel stronger than ever. I've known all this for 30 years, David, but when I would go out to try to tell people, I'd only have my dad's story and G. Edward Griffin's story. We've talked about G. Edward Griffin in A World Without Cancer.
Starting point is 02:10:13 Ed, who's 93, says he doesn't know anybody that's ever died of cancer that regularly eats amygdalin, apricot seeds, nitrilocytes, whatever the name is that you want to call it, but they have systematically, just like this situation with Kate Middleton, just like the king, they've systematically covered up the fact that the king that got cancer said, told the world, he's not going to use chemotherapy, radiation, surgery, but you don't hear that anywhere.
Starting point is 02:10:43 You don't hear that except in quiet circles. he's using natural remedies and it wouldn't surprise me if uh kate middleton also did that like you said they're not telling us what it is if she's successfully helping herself uh you know if she's successfully helping herself with natural remedies they're not going to tell us that that's right that's right yeah they're not going to tell us the cancer they wouldn't tell us what the the what she's using for treatment either would they no that we wouldn't yeah they don't tell us what it is and we got fake pictures it's all it's all a psyop and the battles are raging on as you know and you and i are not on opposite sides about much and and i'm sure if we were we could convince each other but we do know this
Starting point is 02:11:23 that they lie to us constantly and that we have a we have to have a skeptical mind anytime something's presented to us as fact because the truth is there's they've covered things up so many times and lied about so many things that even people that we otherwise might trust might have bad information but we have to go dig deeper and that's what i do uh you know at rnc it's richardson nutritional center for anybody thinks that i'm i'm part of the rnc that it is funny that i've had people contact me and said you got to get rid of that rona daniels or i'm not going to support you anymore and i said well i i uh you know i'm right there with you i support you now but my dad
Starting point is 02:12:01 came up with richardson nutritional center back in the 70s because his patients would come to see him and then they would go home and not be able to get it because they were making a vitamin illegal that was being proven without a shadow of the fda was trying to outlaw vitamin c especially right and even that but they were going to uh regulate the amount that you could have of all these different vitamins that you could sell over the counter i remember the libertarian party was that year i went to it it was in salt lake city and uh orin hatch spoke there uh about the only thing we'd agree with him on and and it was because kind of like with tom emery you know he opposes cbdc because he's connected to people who are selling crypto stuff well orin hatch was connected with people who were selling supplements in the supplement industry and so he was opposing it you know i don't know that he would have put we were posing it on principle he was opposing it on the principle in terms of cash right right right how much money hit his bank
Starting point is 02:13:09 account right two different types of principle uh so uh but you know what for whatever reason you know we would join forces and so it's kind of interesting to see orin hatch addressing the libertarian party trying to stop the fda from stopping people being able to have even vitamins. I mean, that's where these people have been for the longest time. It's all about serving the interests of the pharmaceutical people. It's kind of interesting, too, when we look at Elle McPherson. She said that she had breast cancer. She got it seven years ago, and she said when it first showed up, she said she had a lumpectomy in 2017, seven years ago.
Starting point is 02:13:51 The doctors wanted her to do mastectomy, radiation, hormonal therapy, breast reconstruction, chemotherapy. She said, I chose a holistic approach. She said, saying no to standard medical solutions was the hardest thing i've ever done in my life but saying no to my own inner sense would have been even harder and uh so and she talks about how her family one of her sons was with her on that decision and the other one um was like this is absolutely not going to work And so it was a struggle within her family. It was a struggle with herself, the fear of trying something that, you know, the establishment is telling you that you can't do. But I think what we've seen in the last couple of years, we've seen the establishment so thoroughly discredit itself. I think that really does help people a lot.
Starting point is 02:14:40 But she did it before that happened. Kind of interesting. Yeah, it's a fascinating story like i said she used to date andy wakefield who i uh know intimately from the whole battle on autism and how the the general public still thinks that they've never proven a link between vaccines and autism but that could not be further from the truth david but you could go out and do a poll outside of any hotel in downtown city in any blue city in the country. And it'd probably be the majority of people think, oh, that's been disproven. That's not the case. And so we have been so inundated with medical misinformation because of the profit motive. And also the fact that they like to keep population
Starting point is 02:15:24 control and they like to keep population control and they like to keep us controlled because there's no better way to control us as a people than by our health if you can control our health david you can control everything it doesn't matter how much money you have you'll trade it all for your health and you know the situations are obvious but when we get uh something like when we come out with a lump or bump, we believe that is the disease. And this is what I'm here to tell your audience, the lump or the bump, even the lump she cut out of her breast is not the disease. Let me repeat, that is not the disease. No different than if you get chicken pox, you wouldn't cut the little
Starting point is 02:16:00 pimples off of your arm to try to cure chicken popox. That is what they've done for 50 or 60 years, failing dreadfully, dreadfully, miserably. So much so that the recent woman who was on Tucker Carlson gave up her, her, her surgery career. She was the, she was at Stanford hospital. She was a top of her class. I can't, Carrie, I think Carrie Means is the, Callie Means, I think is her name. And if your producer can help us find that name. She gave up her career. She was just on Tucker Carlson and she broke this news.
Starting point is 02:16:37 And her brother was a, he would raise funds to try to battle, you know, he was one of the people that, uh, convinced the politicians to go with more pharmaceutical drugs. I don't know. My, my brain's not working to find these words this morning, but she quit her career because all she said she was ever taught to do, she put in her resignation. All she was ever taught to do is, is, is, uh, cut things out of people's body and then bill them for it. She never learned the entire system of how it worked. Cancer is an entire body system failure. It means that you have a deficiency disease that cannot fight back the
Starting point is 02:17:17 cancer. So if you start by cutting out a lump or bump, all you're doing is releasing it. It's almost guaranteed to come back chemotherapy is just a drug a deadly poisonous drug that does kill a cancer but it also kills all your healthy cells so people's hair falls out their nails fall out their teeth get loose they lose their appetite they lose weight uh radiation is simply an x-ray pointing at the tumor trying to reduce it again killing the symptom the reason why we have that tumor is because it's surrounding the cancer it's killing the symptom and it may shrink but it's not going to go away these people end up dying anyway and we've we watched the statistics
Starting point is 02:17:57 over 90 of the people that go into that system with chemotherapy radiation and surgery over 90 of them die within seven years. It's a death. It's a death cult. Cancer is the same death cult that we had with COVID, except we did it over 50 years and 60 years. And people like Hans Nieper, Dr. Hans Nieper, who treated President Ronald Reagan for cancer with Laetrile and metabolic therapy in 1985. He had, he had stage four colon cancer. He treated it and he couldn't even tell people about it until later in life. And he wrote, he wrote books and information,
Starting point is 02:18:34 but president Ronald Reagan, who, you know, signed the law that said that you couldn't sue a pharmaceutical company. He was, he was convinced he was a good man, I believe, but he was convinced
Starting point is 02:18:45 by these pharmaceutical companies that they needed to have this protection. Otherwise, we weren't going to be able to help children in the future. Now we have 72 vaccines. We have kids in California get 72 shots by the time they're five years old. And our health is deteriorating because the more medicine they stick into us that's supposed to help our immune system, the more we deny God's medicine, which is what? Lantril, vitamin C, vitamin D, vitamin E, all these vitamins we need. They have us go away from those instead of going to them when we get disease. Yeah, it's pretty amazing.
Starting point is 02:19:19 You're talking about Ronald Reagan and the doctor who secretly treated him. You know, they really try to keep that a secret. Whatever anybody is suffering from the presence, we've got to have this image that they're invincible. But also they don't want people to know that. It's truly amazing because Reagan, that would have been and he was maybe in his early to mid 70s at that point in time. And I think he lived to his early 90s, didn't he? Yeah, he lived 19 years past stage four cancer. He was extremely petrified.
Starting point is 02:19:50 I've interviewed a man who was on his staff, literally from Connecticut, who knew Dr. Hans Nieper and helped work with this. And he knew that he was shipped off to a Navy vessel off the coast of West Germany because Dr. Hans Nieper was from West Germany. He was also connected with Sloan Kettering, Dr. Hans Nieper was, when they were doing this study. So he knew that Laetrile worked in the mid-70s, but they lied about it. So he continued to use this in his practice, helping people with nutritional therapy for cancer.
Starting point is 02:20:25 But he was also sworn to secrecy. So it actually, his speech writer didn't even put that Reagan had cancer until after he passed away. And then he just mentioned that he had colon cancer, but he cured it naturally. It's documented that he cut a little piece of his colon out, but avoided chemotherapy and radiation altogether. And that would have changed the world, David, in 1985, three years before my dad died, it would have changed the world, but they kept it quiet. And he lived 19 years and died of, um, you know, senility basically, uh, 19 years later after he had stage four terminal cancer and his first, uh, presidency. And no one knows
Starting point is 02:21:05 this story we have all the documentation we we we are putting it out there and look at the similarities between trump and and uh reagan when they both were pro vaccines and pro big pharma because they had so much pressure they were both shot at they both had attempted assassinations. And they both, on the face value, both believe in freedom of choice and natural answers to disease. And, of course, when you look at the gag order that they put on Hans Nieper about that, it's very much like when I started out the program. I started talking about the debate. And I said, yeah, it yes a big pageant and everything I played a clip from
Starting point is 02:21:47 Wag the dog and when they get the Hollywood director there they said you're gonna you're gonna create a war for us It's gonna be a pageant, but you can't tell anybody about it You can never tell anybody about it because we're gonna kill you if you tell anybody about it, you know that type of thing and the fact that they would do that to cover up a Cancer treatment that would be an opposition to what the big pharmaceutical companies want to do. That truly is amazing with Ronald Reagan. Now, of course, that book, you've held up a couple of books there, Hans Nieper and another one that was the study that they did. Those books are available at RNC as well, right?
Starting point is 02:22:23 Yeah, we have rncstore.com. You can use the discount code that people know about that should be in the description that they can get discount on all the documents that we have. We've put together the most extensive list of proving documents that we can, and we have thousands more documents to go. I mean, this is just the strangest things we find from this vault. And this is, it says, how to legally avoid unwanted immunizations of all kinds. This was a document produced back in the 1980s when people knew about natural answers, but they were trying to get this out there.
Starting point is 02:22:59 Now with the internet, at least on shows like yours, we can get this truth out there. But we have so much documentation they've covered up. And how do we get it, David? It was hidden away to keep it from the raids of the three-letter agencies. The president of an organization called the Cancer Control Society hid it away to keep it from the three-letter agencies that were raiding his home in Northern California. And so he put it in containers and we've brought it to Arizona to a location to be named later.
Starting point is 02:23:32 We're scanning it. We're going through it. We're finding, I mean, literally newspaper clippings that were getting reproduced. They talked about Lantral on FDA safe list and then a poster that they put out, the FDA put out saying how it's unsafe and unnatural. We've got Patriots marshalling force forces to fight Metacrats.
Starting point is 02:23:52 Does that sound like something that could come out of a article from today? Yeah. It repeats itself. And then here's an author that wrote a book in the sixties who predicted his own arrest just from telling people about leotril and b17 therapy basically as a natural answer to the c word now doctors have always gotten in trouble from saying that it treats cancer and that's what we we want to avoid in this day and age so we can let doctors know just use it for their patients use it for their people just as a support for the immune
Starting point is 02:24:26 system just like vitamin c vitamin d or anything else so that's one of our messages we have at r and c store as well not only do we have the products available the information available we also counsel doctors who are across the country are waking up in droves not woke but waking up in droves that natural answers not only does it help the patients get out of the system but they can also have a wonderful career helping people naturally even as an md you can use a mixture of some orthodox medicine especially in with with surgeries and and accidents and things like that but if you're if you can be proactive on giving people the right nutrition that they need, doctors,
Starting point is 02:25:06 MDs are learning right now that that's the path to the future. Yeah. Yeah. I'm surprised with all those documents that you had there. We didn't see anything from the FDA saying, uh, this is for horses. Y'all,
Starting point is 02:25:17 uh, you know, it's that kind of stuff. They have completely destroyed their credibility. That's the only good thing that's come out of the last four years is that people have finally seen how they operate. And I had seen how they operated before this because they pulled the same stuff with COVID that they had done for their annual flu shot stuff. And it's like, well, we've seen this before. We know exactly where they're going.
Starting point is 02:25:40 We know exactly the kind of manipulation and propaganda that they used to people. But they went even farther this time and really destroyed their credibility. You know, we talk about Ronald Reagan in 1985 having natural therapy and other things like that and surviving and not having chemotherapy. That's not too long after that. It's in about a two-year period period not even about a year and a half uh my father had cancer and he got chemotherapy and his first time they gave him chemotherapy went into a coma and he died a few days later uh from the chemotherapy he didn't die from cancer he died from their chemotherapy same thing could have happened to ronald reagan uh and uh if
Starting point is 02:26:25 he hadn't gone with a natural thing instead he wound up living for another 19 years a tale of two different things yeah it's amazing yeah a friend a friend of mine dr uh rashid batar uh who who was most likely murdered you know i just try to tell the truth even though people go oh he was most likely murdered i was texting him back and forth uh when he was said he was poisoned he was definitely poisoned and whether he was eventually murdered by that or it was the effect of that poisoning anyway he was he was taken out but he he made it well known as an md that 90 of the people that got cancer died of the treatment from the cancer yes 90 of the. And so you might be better off and, you know, and this is blasphemy. You might be better off just going home and, and, and enjoying
Starting point is 02:27:12 the rest of your life instead of getting these poisons. Like you said, your dad was given a treatment. I, you know, how many times I hear that people are given their first dose of chemotherapy and they're so sick afterwards. They're like,'t feel this sick ever during this whole bout with cancer so even that and and the fda had to admit david as you joked about you know call it horse paste uh they had to admit that amygdala without a doubt caused people to get up get off painkillers our whole medical system david has become where painkillers. Our whole medical system, David, has become where painkillers, pain is the symptom that everyone wants to fix. If you've got something wrong with you, you've got to get a painkiller to get that pain away. It doesn't have anything to do with taking care of the disease. So we're taking pharmaceutical drugs for painkillers or antivirals or antibacterial and anti this and
Starting point is 02:28:03 that to get rid of pain when that's a symptom of what's wrong that's tells your body telling you god telling you you're doing something wrong stop eating that thing stop doing that thing stop drinking that alcohol or doing whatever you're doing that's unhealthy learn fix fix the problem and that's what we've gotten away from. And that's what we're getting back to is resolving the underlying problem so that we don't die soon. We don't die of the treatments instead of dying from quote unquote, the deficiency disease, which we don't have to die. Ed Griffin, 93, the Hunzas who he documented lived in the turn of the century, lived to be 120, 130 years old, and they ate up to 200
Starting point is 02:28:46 apricot seeds a day i'm not saying here that apricot seeds are the all-encompassing answer to every disease on the planet but i have studies that i found in this vault where famous world famous dentists proved that cavities were actually a deficiency of vitamin B17. Believe it or not, David, we found that information. This has been covered up. Of course, it's much more profitable to drill holes and fill with things and do all sorts of treatments. I'm not saying dentists are all bad, but there's natural answers to the things that go on in our mouth
Starting point is 02:29:19 just as proven over history as there are all these medical answers. Yeah, you stop and think about vitamin C and rickets. I mean, that's just a deficiency in vitamin C. There's all different types of things. Scurvy, I know what you meant. Rickets is vitamin D. I'm sorry, yeah. 2.4 million people died a year, David, back 300 years ago.
Starting point is 02:29:41 And that's a natural, easy answer. We don't know about scurvy. The same thing is going on with b17 it's just so hard for us to believe it they want to keep us in fear just like they did with covid so that we try this vaccine which is not a vaccine at all it's been well proven it's a gene therapy no question about it we no question that more people died have died from the results of that vaccine than ever died of COVID. The treatments for COVID is what killed people.
Starting point is 02:30:09 And this is information that three years ago probably would have got me put in jail. But people were saying back three years ago, and now it's coming out in the general public. So people are more skeptical of the medical establishment than they've ever been. And time to wake up. Yeah. Oh, yeah, it is. And I wish, you know, and they pull this stuff on us all the time. the medical establishment than they've ever been and time to wake up yeah oh yeah it is and and i wish you know when and they pull this stuff on us all the time uh i'm just at the point now where
Starting point is 02:30:30 i'm absolutely done with the medical community after what happened you know first i told you what happened my father then my son gets uh ciprofloxan well it's not actually that it was uh it was uh of that family of the floxin family. Same thing as chemotherapy. And the people we're talking about says it's the same exact thing. It continues to attack your body, continues to attack your mitochondria after you take it, even just a small amount of it. And when I start looking online to see if I can find some natural remedies or things like that, what I see are from WebMD and these other places well you should uh have some uh ssris if you're having trouble sleeping it's like are you kidding me ssris or they say gabapentin gabapentin was something that gave my wife after she had a hip replacement and it caused her to um uh have all kinds of issues Just the initial dosage of that,
Starting point is 02:31:25 it took us quite a while to get her detoxed from that, made her pass out, all the rest of this stuff. It was just amazing to see these things that they just prescribe them like candy. They'll go down and these doctors, you talked about the doctor who said, well, my only job was to cut things out of people. Well, the other doctors,
Starting point is 02:31:43 their prescription is to look at a table of symptoms and then tell you what the pharmaceutical industry wants you to take at the moment. And without any regard to any kind of safety concerns, and they don't tell you what the safety concerns are. It's just amazing. Yeah, and they don't have any tests that test them all together.
Starting point is 02:32:01 No matter what they say about a drug test, it's always tested by itself. They do that so that there's, you they call these double blind you know studies they test that one drug by itself it's never tested with two three four five vaccines 72 vaccines that never happens even when they try to say they've done safety tests most of them a couple people died or a couple people had heart failure, a couple people had liver. And now they allow hundreds of people to die before they take a drug off the market. And this whole thing, one of the things we talked about was Zuckerberg coming out and now saying that he was convinced not to let people know about natural answers to COVID.
Starting point is 02:32:43 He was convinced. He was strong he was strong armed. It's amazing, David, to hear that, to hear that information coming out. But I think Zuckerberg is like the rat leaving the sinking vessel. He literally has seen that things he's done has killed people. People have had heart attacks because of him.
Starting point is 02:33:02 People have lost their children because of him. And so it's all well and good that at this 11th hour, when it's all coming out everywhere, that he's going to jump ship and kind of try to throw the administration under the bus. But the truth is he knew. He knew very well. He lied over and over again. And so I'm one of those people. Yes, I believe god can forgive people uh you know
Starting point is 02:33:26 whatever they've done in their lives but one of the people that still thinks that we need to pursue him paying for this he needs to pay for this this evil lying yeah you can you can say it i admit it give him credit for that instead of waiting for him to be completely taken out later. But I don't forgive him and I don't forget it. And I'm not the one to judge him. God will be the one to judge him. But our criminal justice system needs to deal with him whatever happens. I'm not saying it's going to, David, but that's what I'm putting out there. And I'm not afraid of Facebook and zuckerberg just like what
Starting point is 02:34:05 happened with the the ceo of youtube the powers that be the evil ones that want us dead don't care who they kill yeah they're they're death cult and this woman who supported the vaccine and pushed the vaccine and told everybody to get it died of turbo cancer at 54. can't even pronounce her name but she was the CEO of YouTube that probably kicked you off. Yeah. Kicked me off. I had a channel with subscribers and got kicked off because I was just telling people about
Starting point is 02:34:31 natural answers and she lost her life and they don't care. Yeah. I mean, and that's what they kick me off. They kick me off for telling people about the federal reserve. They'll kick you off or anything. Well, like Ed Griffin, they call Ed Griffin a right-wing extremist because he told people the truth about the Federal Reserve and Creature from Jekyll Island
Starting point is 02:34:51 and told people the truth about cancer. 50 years ago, David, and even patriots or people that are right-minded still think cancer is the lump or the bump or they think it's something we catch or it's some chemical they give us. No, it's our immune system not having the proper nutrition, the enzymes. And I think I've mentioned this to you about the professor at Loyola University who came
Starting point is 02:35:16 out in 1978 and said that this may be the end to breast cancer. His name was Dr. Harold Manor. He was the head of biology at Loyola University for 30 years. And he studied amygdala with mice that were bred to grow breast cancers and wiped out 89% of the cancers and said, this may mean the end of mastectomies. And he was fired in the 1970s, left penniless and had to move to Mexico and actually
Starting point is 02:35:46 died 90 days before my father in 1988. Wow. Wow. That's amazing. And I really want to thank you for persisting on this because, you know, as these people are so persistent, we have to be equally persistent to tell people the truth as persistent as they are to try to cover it up. I think many times about my wife was protesting an abortion clinic in Austin. They had a sign that said, stop black genocide. You know, and they had the lefties show up. It's the first time we'd seen Antifa people. And they showed up with a black sign.
Starting point is 02:36:18 They didn't have anything to say. They just want to stop you from saying what you're saying. And so he tried to hold in front of her sign. She'd go down below him and she'd go up behind. They're going up and down, up and down to show this thing. It's just amazing that they just want to silence people. And we know what it is that they want to do. Now, you got that.
Starting point is 02:36:36 You were talking about Zuckerberg. You've got an article, extensive article talking about this. Tell people where they can find that. Well, it's on our website at rncstore.com. If you use the forward slash newsletter, you just sign up for it. You just put your name and your email. I know people are cautious about that. We don't use it for spamming people, but this is where we can send out this information. We have all the research about what Zuckerberg said and what he did and, you know, just explain to people that it's not time to go, oh, let's go jump back on Facebook. And now they're telling the truth because Zuckerberg's seen the light.
Starting point is 02:37:15 Just know he's covering his butt. He's just covering his rear. And they brainwashed the entire world and, you know, by censoring and deplatforming. And it's not something you can just ask forgiveness to get away from. They need to, if he really means it, we'll see if that's just a news cycle. He came out and said that Trump was a bad, you know, ASS for standing up. And it's all like you said, David, just like my good friend, Gio Griffin, it's all this play we're watching
Starting point is 02:37:45 and we don't know where it's all gonna come down, but we have to fight our own battle. We have to, that's why we can't just leave our health up to the powers that be. We can't leave our information up to the powers that be at Google and Facebook. We have to hold them to account and continue telling the truth.
Starting point is 02:38:03 And like your wife, if you get censored here, you move it over here. If you get censored there, you move over here. We're on, I think you're on the Rumble channel. And I think maybe we're on live right now on Rumble channel, which I think is a great platform. It seems like they're not censoring information and things are starting to go viral. People are starting to realize that they want the truth about health freedom or political freedom, or even, uh, even financial freedom that they got the truth about health freedom or political freedom or even uh even financial freedom that they gotta go to a a platform that doesn't censor uh the the truth no matter what the truth is and i'm a person that believes every freedom speech is the most important
Starting point is 02:38:38 freedom we have because we can't talk if you and i can't disagree about something without being shut off or one of the other of us being told go away, then we're not really speaking. We're not really a free people. We're not free and we can't and we're never going to battle against this tyranny without freedom of speech and freedom of opportunity to get our message out there. Oh, absolutely. And it's ridiculous what they're doing now. I just saw there's an article in Germany that the German government is coming after some guy because on social media he called a german minister fat well she actually is fat you know but it was what they're really
Starting point is 02:39:12 after is they're saying you don't have the um you don't have the freedom to insult and that's especially true of our masters our political masters. But this is a few years ago. You had Rowan Atkinson, the comedian in the UK, said, please feel free to insult me. You know, we must be able to keep this freedom of speech without it. He was saying we don't have any comedy, but we also don't have any freedom to say anything. If you can shut somebody down because you hurt their feelings about it, because you said something that was mean-spirited. The reality is that if they shut down our speech, that is the key thing. That is why it was number one on the list of Bill of Rights that Madison and other people added to the Constitution, because it is so foundational. I've said before,
Starting point is 02:40:03 I think it is even more foundational than the Second Amendment. You're not even going to know who to shoot at if you don't have free speech, right? I mean, you will not even rise up against tyranny, let alone resist it in any way, shape, or form, if you don't know that the tyranny is happening. And that's why the tyrants come after free speech. And it is a program that is designed to enslave us designed to kill us and that's what the medical side is all about and so it continues to escalate we've got several people who have left messages here we're on live uh on rock fan
Starting point is 02:40:36 scott helmer thank you for the tip he says please post this full interview to david's x account so it can be shared with friends and family and we do we do that every day we uh we'll pull out every interview that we do we put it on our rumble channel and on rockfin and on bit shoot and um a huge tube and we put it on our x account so we do that every day as well as gab we put it on gab as well and so uh you know every interview that we do is up there we'll also pull out a couple of clips from the show as well as the full show. Always will be up there. And on Rockfin, Jessica Morrow, thank you for the tip, says, thank you, David, especially for your show today. I am a longtime listener, and I've been diagnosed with stage four melanoma.
Starting point is 02:41:20 I'm 46 and a mother of two. Your topic today is so true. I have dealt with two different hospitals here in the Northeast, one of them being quite famous for cancer treatment, and all they want to do is a single protocol of drugs down my throat or in my arm. It's very sad. It is sad. Mayo Clinic, I'm guessing Mayo Clinic, and here's a funny,
Starting point is 02:41:42 here's not a funny story. I just want to tell her to take heart because I have a friend whose name is Rick Hill, who's celebrating his 50th year of being cancer-free when he was sent home at the age of 24 by Mayo Clinic saying he had stage four cancer and he was going to die. He is celebrating in October, his 50th year of being cancer-free using metabolic therapy including lateral he actually spoke to the congress in the 1970s to keep them from outlawing it they wanted to outlaw a nutritional substance that's found in 1200 different foods that's that's primarily found in the apricot seed that's why we talk about the apricot seed because it's the easiest way to get
Starting point is 02:42:23 it and i've got that right here i've got apricot seeds uh so tell us a little bit about that um and the apricot i you know when you eat this you got to go a little bit so i couldn't believe it when you said there's that tribe that ate two of them 200 of them a day because i oh it looks like almonds and i popped several of them in my mouth and it kind of gets uh i don't know how to describe it it was a very interesting sensation that you get when you eat many of them at one time. But there's something there for sure. Yeah, it's horrible tasting. And the thought is that what the bad guys say, what Google says is you're getting cyanide poison when you get these reactions.
Starting point is 02:42:59 It's absolutely nearly impossible to get cyanide poison unless you drank a bunch of beta-glucosidase at the same time. And it's a longer story than we have time for now. But I want to tell people that God created vitamins to keep us disease-free. If we just listen to what he said, and I've repeated this, I'm going to go Genesis 129. Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the face of the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit, you shall have them for food. God did not provide us these seeds to poison us. That's the lie they want to tell us, David. A megalin is broken apart only in the presence of an abnormal cell.
Starting point is 02:43:38 That's where beta-glucosidase is. So if you eat a handful of them, you're probably going to give yourself an upset stomach because your body's not used to dealing with it the average american diet gets about one milligram of amygdalin in a day my dad said ed griffin said you need 100 to 200 milligrams a day not a whole lot it's only like five or ten apricot seeds there's 20 milligrams in each apricot seed and david i eat regularly 40 a day now i have the caveat i don't recommend that to everybody and because if you do that you're going to get an upset stomach you're not going to get cyanide poisoning that doesn't happen the body has uh rhodonase called the protecting enzyme which breaks the uh any free cyanide that's. If you come in contact with a cancer cell is broken down by rodentase,
Starting point is 02:44:26 it turns it into a pain reliever. That's why the FDA can't deny that amygdala causes pain relief, but I'm going to be at the healing for the ages conference this weekend with Dr. Brian artists, Dr. Ed group, who many people know from global healing.
Starting point is 02:44:39 Yeah, I know. I just talked to Dr. Ed group yesterday. He used lay a trail back in the 1990s and 2000s until he got demonized by the by the FDA. We had to move away from it and started global healing. We're working together on a project that I'm not going to announce yet. We're working on it to bring this to more people in a way that's that's that's not so nasty tasting as the apricot seed, because this is the best way to get it. It's also the hardest way for people to do because they don't like the taste of it. So we're trying to make it,
Starting point is 02:45:11 we're grinding it up and put it into seed meals so people can put it in their smoothies or their oatmeal. But again, I must repeat, I'm not the only one that has it. It's not a trademark. God has the trademark on it. That's the thing that they hate. They hate that this little seed can wipe out a two trillion dollar industry and so they'll lie cheat and steal
Starting point is 02:45:32 to stop people from knowing about this and i'm not the only one who has it you can grow in your own yard and you can eat foods that have amygdala in it yeah and it says there on the label california grown tested pesticide and herbicide free air dried it looks very much like almonds and uh like i said you know it's kind of a uh a kind of a strong taste uh i i just grabbed a handful of them it's like almonds they're popping in it says take these one or two at a time when you're first doing it it's like oh okay well but i survived didn't have any problems i didn't even have an upset stomach with it. And then I've got this as well, the seed caps. Tell us a little bit about seed caps.
Starting point is 02:46:08 Yeah, seed caps is just our answer. It's very simple. We squeeze the oil out of it to keep it from going rancid. And we grind it up. Our seed powder, it has the oil pressed out. And we put it in a capsule. So if you don't like the taste, you just take it. It gets through your upper colon and goes to work in your stomach. So that's that's
Starting point is 02:46:25 just a way to to get it separately you can get it as pure lateral i have the bottles back here for somebody that wants more potency 100 milligrams of pure lateral 500 milligrams we even offer it in the liquid uh later what some people use to add to their ivs, just like vitamin C. Dr. Krebs, who is kind of the proponent of the 60s and 70s, who was getting the word out there, people said, how much should I do if I have something? He said, get as much into your system as your immune system can handle. So they did many toxicology studies back then and even more recent that amygygdala even though they try to make you fearful
Starting point is 02:47:06 of the cyanide thing and we've talked about that is is safer than sugar and my wife even goes honey stop saying that because sugar is poison the number one thing you need to do if you're trying to be healthy is get off sugar but lay it so pure amygdala is safer than sugar and has no, we have many studies and many documentation and it's all available at rncstore.com for people to look up, understand and read that it's not just John Richardson having some patent or trademark on this, this item. It's, it's, it's available out there in the world and we want to teach people so they can't take that away from us.
Starting point is 02:47:42 So they can't keep us afraid and going to do chemo rushing to chemotherapy radiation surgery when we have an issue well it's very important it's very important for us to arm ourselves with the truth before something happens you know it's just in our particular case you know you got an emergency infection that is that's really rapidly building and you're concerned about that we didn't know the history of these flocks and the family of these drugs and everything like that, and it didn't ring a bell. And I was sick of the time myself as well. And so they take advantage of your ignorance is what they do.
Starting point is 02:48:19 I've got a couple of questions here, a comment, a question on Rockfin. NN says, my sister worked at uab and four researchers quietly announced that they had found a possible cure for cancer i don't know what type but they were shut down heard that over and over again and i've got this uh from brian and deb mccartney can you ask him about dr stanislaw brzezinski and if he knew him. Yeah, I do know him. I more know of him. We're not personal friends, but he's out of Houston. I've driven by his clinic. I have a good friend that does know him. There was actually a study David done at a hospital in Houston that proved that amygdalin helped prevent or treat seven different types of C word. Now I'm going to
Starting point is 02:49:06 use that in that sentence because they were also shut down. Obama administration shut it down. The people forget. Why would they do that? Why would they do that for an answer? Because people forget that the entire medical industry is supported by the pharmaceutical industries. So at this hospital, there was 10 or 20 million dollars worth of drugs being tested through the pipeline pfizer is buying companies that have come up with a new drug for cancer there this is a profit machine so if i like i said if there was a study done at a hospital or someplace like sloan-ket in the 70s that prove, read the title of this, and you can watch this using your night as people's affiliate code. You can watch this
Starting point is 02:49:52 for free on our website as long as it stays up on Rumble because they took it down from Facebook, but it showed that it stopped the spread of cancer and they lied to us about it. This was in the 1970s. If you don't think they're doing that to us now, if people don't think they're doing that to us now, this is the answer that they don't want us to know about. And as long as I can keep standing up in my soapbox and preaching this and getting information out there for such a time as this, people are receptive to it, David, because they've gone through the things that you have. And many of your viewers have gone through the same thing.
Starting point is 02:50:25 They shut down the natural answers because there's no profit in it. The system doesn't sustain itself that way. That's why we have to scrap that system eventually and go from the point of view of healing the person, not treating their pains or their symptoms and just masking them, but healing the person. That's what we have to go back to. It's not voodoo medicine. It's scientifically proven natural answers to disease that we need to open up to the world.
Starting point is 02:50:53 And that should be the first route people take. That should be the first route they take. Absolutely. Yeah. It's time for a paradigm shift. I mean, how can we look at what has happened in the last four years and not understand that? But, you know, I just recently, I looked up a supplement in M N and the people that I got it from. And I saw that they got shut down during the COVID stuff because they said
Starting point is 02:51:14 something that was really pretty innocuous saying, you know, well, this, this really does help with the COVID. But you have to be very careful about that. If you make a particular statement or claim, they will use that then to shut you down. They completely shut those people down.
Starting point is 02:51:28 I remember when things were happening and people were concerned and said, well, we got this, this thing out there. And I said, look, you know, SARS, um, and, and things like this, you know, these are, are not really, uh, novel or new. And I read quotes from people who had been, uh been one of them was still at either the fda or the nih and i said here's what they're saying they're saying that it builds up your body's defenses it doesn't necessarily uh kill a particular disease but it builds up your body's defenses so that you fight it naturally and so i read the quotes from both the nih and from the fda
Starting point is 02:52:03 for that but if you go out and you say, well, it's going to cure such and such a disease. And that's not really the paradigm, because as you point out, we're not focused on a disease. We're not focused on cutting off a bump or cutting off a lump or whatever. That's not really the disease. The disease is more systematic. And that's why you're approaching it from a nutritional standpoint. Absolutely. And that's the safest way to approach it for doctors, for health practitioners, for people to understand that we're supporting the immune system. We have all over our website that this has never been approved by FDA.
Starting point is 02:52:34 I'm not a doctor. I don't treat patients. I'm just a historian that's pushing this message out there and giving people the data they need to make their own decisions. And that's what we have to do. We can't bury our head in the sand anymore, David. We can't just hope someone else is going to protect us. There's going to be white knights coming in and rescuing us at the last possible second, even who are voting for president. Even though I think there's a clear difference between
Starting point is 02:52:58 the two people on face value now, I don't think that's our answer to our future. Our answer is for us to be educated, us to learn the truth and spread it amongst our tribe. The people that we love the most, the people that follow you, listening to your truth, they know you tell the truth, regardless of whether it's best for your financial reasons or not. Same thing for me. I sell a book on my website, David, that says cancer-free with food. It actually teaches anybody who buys it how to put me out of business what a crazy thing to do because if you eat the right foods you don't need John Richardson you don't need this story if you eat the
Starting point is 02:53:33 right foods and take the right nutrients you can avoid the c-word in your lifetime and avoid it for any of your family members it's really just an educational and making the right choices when you're eating the problem is most of our choices are limited to processed foods at the grocery store the fast food place and left to our own devices we're going to eat things that are sugary and salty and taste delicious and have no nutritional value so sometimes eating the right thing tastes horrible but god told us that's what we need to eat for food. So I recommend people follow what God said. That's a really good spiritual analogy as well. Sometimes it's bitter taste, but it's what he's got for our best interest. And you know, there's been a lot of
Starting point is 02:54:17 talk about hyper-processed foods and all this other kind of stuff. And so a lot of, there was an article that just was published in addition to that, said, well, you know, a lot of people would say, well, I don't want to have junk food and everything. So they're eating really good stuff. They're eating salad and having fat-free salad dressings and everything. And said, well, do you realize that the colon cancer is going up? Because this stuff is just loaded with chemicals.
Starting point is 02:54:40 It's just an imitation of the other stuff that is natural. And it just is permeated throughout our food supply. The wheat is adulterated from genetic modification and it's from selective breeding even before the genetic modification. But now they're going to be doing GMO wheat. Everything is adulterated like that. So it is really difficult to eat natural and eat really clean even the people think they're eating clean are getting some kind of a fake imitation of food you need to you need to supplement unfortunately with what the food that we have available but some of the
Starting point is 02:55:16 guidelines that my my beautiful wife has taught me to really follow uh even though i you know i've been a person who ate a lot of dairy. She says, if you're battling a disease and you want to get healthy and feel better, stay away from dairy, stay away from gluten, and stay away from sugar. Those are the three hard things to... Everybody likes the hot, fresh buns with sugar and cakes and things like that. If you can stay away from those three things, besides what I'm talking about,
Starting point is 02:55:47 you know, dairy, gluten, and sugar, you can avoid a lot of disease. And those things have been kind of pushed on us over time because those industries had the most money to spend to get on that food pyramid. And so it is a financial thing, but our food right now is mostly garbage, mostly garbage. So we do need a supplement and that's unfortunate, but it's a lot cheaper than the other method
Starting point is 02:56:10 to treat after you get it and try to fight it that way. Oh, absolutely. Well, I'm real interested to see what's going to come out with a collaboration between you and Dr. Group. Tell him I said hi. Such a nice stuff. I'll see him this weekend. I'll see him with Ryan Artis, Dr. Schmidt from Gold Care. They're doing amazing things, David. I don't know if you're familiar with what. I don't know them, but I do know Dr. Group, and I have the most respect for him. He is such a nice guy, very sincere in what he does, and one of the nicest people I've ever met.
Starting point is 02:56:43 His factory is 10 10 12 minutes away from me i don't want to tell people exactly where i am right yeah but he's out in arizona too somewhere right no he's a he has a his main office is in houston but his factory is out here in arizona and we're going to be uh uh doing liposomal uh of B17, which are absolutely amazing. And we're working on it right now. And, you know, it's not like I'm announcing something that's private. It's a naturally occurring substance. I'm never going to have a trademark to it.
Starting point is 02:57:16 I don't want a trademark to it. I don't want to be the only person, David. It protects me with more people that know about it and more people growing in their garden and, know getting it so and we're talking about liposomal you're talking about having it uh bonded essentially to fat so that it's more absorbable into the system is that correct throughout the whole body it was invented by the the uh the skincare companies spent millions of dollars on it and then dr group has spent the last eight years perfecting it nutritionally. He said they dropped it in the skincare line because they were taking all these poisons and making it to go all to different parts of your body. So it wasn't helpful. It's only liposomal technology is only good if what you're bringing to people is actually good for them.
Starting point is 02:57:57 So that's what he's developed at Global Healing. And we're going to be doing that. And I'm excited about it. So I'm really excited about that. Yeah. Vitamin liposomal vitamin C. We've been taking that for a while. And that's, and our family have known about that.
Starting point is 02:58:10 So that's great to see that happening with other things. The Richardson Nutrition Center, RNC. And it's rncstore.com. Is that where people can find things? That's right. rncstore.com. Remember, don't tell me about how to run the Republican National Committee. I'm not going to help anybody with that. So that's right, rncstorepart.com. Remember, don't tell me about how to run the Republican National Committee. I'm not going to help anybody with that.
Starting point is 02:58:28 That's right. Richard Signatriciano. And he'll give you some special benefits and things to help you if you use the code KNIGHT. And we're going to put up some links on our website to let you know about that. But, yeah, I'm all about people trying to find alternatives. We need to have alternatives to the fiat dollar. We need to have alternatives to this fake, dangerous medical system. We've got to have a parallel
Starting point is 02:58:50 society. That's the only way that we're going to be able to survive this stuff. These people are out to destroy everything in our society as well as our bodies and our souls. And so we've got to start educating ourselves and taking advantage of this. And you have a wealth of things to educate people
Starting point is 02:59:06 about there with publications um an excellent resource source thank you so much john for what you do again it's rncstore.com thank you john appreciate it thank you david god bless thank you and thank you all for listening and for joining us today that's it for today's broadcast have a good day. Talk to you tomorrow, hopefully. Has your news been censored, banned, censored, banned over and over again? Has vital information been held prisoner by mainstream and anti-social media? It's the duty of every thinking person to make the great escape to thedavidknightshow.com. There you'll find links to live streams, videos, audio podcasts, and support links.
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