The David Knight Show - 30Nov22 Oath Keepers Stunning Verdict; Current Status of Pentagon's War on Religious Liberty with Jab Mandates

Episode Date: November 30, 2022

OUTLINE of today's show with TIMECODESQatar police arrests England supporters at World Cup dressed as medieval knights from Monty Python and the Holy Grail. No sense of humor and one can "see the vio...lence inherent in the system"!2:28"The dead keep coming". The WAR part of the failed War on Drugs, just across the border in Mexico. How much longer before it happens in USA?9:08French priest suspended for saying abortion has more victims in World War One than the Great War. That's an understatement12:087 Circuit reverses Indiana’s fetal disposition law and an outright reversal.18:22After a pro-life clinic was firebombed what happened next with the FBI is unbelievable24:11Biden’s 5 Secret Service rental vehicles all burst into flames after he left his vacation in Nantucket!27:47Stunning verdict reached in Stewart Rhodes and Oath Keepers trial!33:33Stewart Rhodes finally understands how stupid Jan6 and StopTheSteal was. Here's the 2 lessons…58:03Jan6 GeoFence. Guilty by being in an area. It's now revealed that FBI targeted a massive number of people through Google's tracking of everyone's phones.1:03:43China taps Governor Gretchen Whitmer to lead lockdown enforcement (satire)1:11:18The tanks are now rolling out on China’s streets.1:14:25PEAK HYPOCRISY: Trudeau virtue signals about the importance of free speech and peaceful protests — in China.1:20:55After China bots pushed fear porn in Italy to begin lockdowns, China bots are now swamping searches for protests by pushing porn1:26:59Apple appears to have conspired and partnered with Chinese government to turn off a feature that allowed protestors to communicate with each other without going through the central net1:31:02Chinese protestors understand this is not "science" it's political. And they're demanding sweeping political changes1:43:10 Young Asian recounts long history of surveillance and control in China and how it's coming to the rest of the world, especially through CBDC1:47:15How do we stop people from speaking freely on Twitter?1:50:26Dr. McCullough: When Biden says it’s over, but continues, it means they’re drunk on power.1:53:59The medical scandal of killing patients with ventilators continues.1:57:59INTERVIEW: Davis Younts, TheMilitaryCounsel.com, Christian, husband, homeschool dad, former prosecutor, JAG, and #1 rated defense counsel in the Air Force. Mr. Younts on the legal fight against Biden & Pentagon's relentless pursuit of mandatory jabs. The issues and the current status in each branch as well as precedents in the anthrax vaccine. 2:05:51Federal law requires that the military cannot mandate an experimental or emergency use medical product for any reason without a specific exception.2:13:34What is the off ramp for the Department of Defense? Why do they continue to push this?2:17:29What we need to be doing as Christians is recognizing the actual battle that’s here.2:25:52What type of homeschool challenges are you seeing now?2:34:00We’re either falling and worshiping God or we are falling and worshipping man.2:38:27The war between Tim Apple and Musk2:48:58If you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-show Or you can send a donation throughZelle: @DavidKnightShow@protonmail.comCash App at:  $davidknightshowBTC to:  bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Mail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Money is only what YOU hold: Go to DavidKnight.gold for great deals on physical gold/silverBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.

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Starting point is 00:02:19 So we're going to have him on later in the show. Today we're going to talk also about the verdict that came out about Stuart Rhodes and the Oath Keepers. They have been found guilty of seditious conspiracy and are looking at over 20 years in prison. Absolutely amazing. But we're going to start with some lighter news before we get into the heavier stuff. Stay with us. We'll be right back. Well, I don't usually talk about sports, but today I'm going to make an exception because we have the World Cup going on. And it's very important, worldwide news. But we're not going to talk about the games.
Starting point is 00:03:15 We're going to talk about what happened there. We had some England fans who were actually living in Qatar and working there and had for years. And they thought that they would go to one of the games where England was playing, dressed up like medieval knights from Monty Python. They were promptly arrested by the Qatar police who accused them. Do you want to kill Muslimslims are you crusaders and uh he said no i'm author king of the brits go with the brits anyway uh eventually they had to do the full monty they stripped them naked to humiliate them made them surrender everything i imagine uh as they talked about the different things that they confiscated from them humiliate them, made them surrender everything.
Starting point is 00:04:08 I imagine, as they talked about the different things that they confiscated from them, I imagine they said they took the swords, even though they were made of foam. They had been warned by FIFA, they do not do anything that is going to offend the sensibility. So, of course, you can't wear a costume anymore of any sort of thing nobody can take a joke uh so i said they took our swords even though they're made of foam then a captain came running after us saying they were gonna wear the chain mail that's right you're not allowed to have any offensive or defensive equipment you can't wear the chain mail and i I imagine to keep them from escaping, they also took away the coconuts. The Qatari police asked,
Starting point is 00:04:53 are you Muslims? Of course, we aren't crusaders. We've lived here for years. We have no problem with Muslims at all. We work with them every day. They said it took two and a half hours before they eventually let us in. They made us wear t-shirts, said, this is madness.
Starting point is 00:05:10 I blame FIFA, the international governing body of soccer. You can't wear anything nowadays without somebody taking offense. And we're just about out of any sense of humor in the world. So let's bring in a clip from one of the pythons himself talking about soccer. Soccer. Why do the Americans insist on calling it soccer? Why do they have such a problem calling it football? It's a game played with a ball that is struck with the foot.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Hence, football-ball. You see? Are you following this, America? The clue is in the title. It's not that difficult. Whereas American football, as they call it, is a game where an object that's not really a ball at all, it's the wrong shape for a ball at all, it's the wrong shape for a ball, is carried around by hand and occasionally thrown for other people to catch in their hands. You see? Only one
Starting point is 00:06:13 person in each team is allowed to actually kick the ball and they have to be specially brought onto the field to do it. I suppose in its own way that is a form of creativity. It's quite a creative use of language. You know, saying one thing and meaning something completely different. At LiveScoreBet, we love Cheltenham just as much as we love football. The excitement, the roar and the chance to reward you. That's why every day of the festival, we're giving new members money back as a free sports bet up to € euro if your horse loses on a selected race that's how we celebrate the biggest week in racing cheltenham with live score bet this is total betting sign up by 2 p.m 14th of march bet within
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Starting point is 00:07:30 Different, yes. Now for something completely different. They said that they were a big hit on the way to the stadium, these guys who got arrested and stripped. They said they had coconuts with them, so I imagine they did take the coconuts as well, doing the clip-clopping of the horses from the film. They live and work in Qatar. They're worried about now what might happen next. Because you see, as John Cleese has pointed out many times,
Starting point is 00:07:54 we've gone to the point where everybody is offended by everything. And if any single person anywhere is offended, then you have to be canceled. And so now they're worried about the punishment from these humorless dictators that everybody is taking the cue from social media, from these tyrants who want to shut down free speech. Now we're worried about them coming after us. They've got cameras everywhere. We were dressed as Monty Python. They took took pictures they couldn't get enough of us the tourists and but of course you could say that about the cutter police as well fifa has made it clear western fans should not be dressing up in what is considered to be insensitive costumes my son says yes witness the violence inherent in the system there you go
Starting point is 00:08:41 yeah they got a taste of that for real yeah there's a so many things that could be coming out of that but you know at the same time uh oh and those they spent three thousand dollars on those crusader costumes you know it gets pretty expensive i guess to try to find a crusader costume if you're in cutter uh so you have to pay dearly for it. But China, and we're going to talk about what's going on in China. I didn't talk about it yesterday, but I've got a lot of stuff I talked about on a Monday, and there's been more developments.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Some amazing developments, actually. In China, they are censoring pictures from the World Cup if it shows Chinese fans not wearing masks. Now, I want you to remember just a few days ago, last week or whenever it was, maybe it was two weeks ago, when you had the G20. And I pointed out that President Xi was going everywhere at the G20 without a mask. We saw the videos of him dressing down Trudeau and Trudeau sheepishly. was going everywhere at the G20 without a mask, right? We saw the videos of him dressing down Trudeau and Trudeau sheepishly.
Starting point is 00:09:50 He wasn't wearing a mask. Trudeau wasn't wearing a mask. They weren't keeping six feet apart. None of these superstitions were being enforced there. But with these COVID demonstrations, zero COVID demonstrations going on, she does not want to see anybody to see anyone not wearing a mask in the World Cup, any of the Chinese people there. You know, we talk about the border issue, and there's so many different aspects
Starting point is 00:10:18 of it. I think this is the fundamental aspect of it. We talk about the violence inherent in the system. It is a system that has been built with the war on drugs. It has given a monopoly to organized crime, and they've had 50 years to grow it. Can you imagine what Al Capone and these other guys could have done if they'd had 50 years to grow their organized crime syndicate instead of just 10 years before they got rid of that failed prohibition. Well, that is what's happened, and with 50 years or so,
Starting point is 00:10:53 you've got all kinds of dangerous new drugs and dangerous new gangs that have been created because of prohibition. You have all kinds of corruption of the government and the legal system and the police officers and the military. Mexico is a disaster from that standpoint. And I talked about it years ago, why you want a lot more unaffordable for people who live there. They have to pay property taxes to educate these kids from El Salvador who were in school and literally had MS-13 written all over their face with tattoos. And yet nothing could be done about it.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Because we had DACA, Deferred Action on Childhood Arrivals. So because of DACA, you're not allowed to kick these kids out of the country. And even though you know that they're MS--13 you know you can't do anything about that either and so there was a father that was his daughter was also attending school they had fled el salvador he said to get away from the violence primarily from ms-13 and there was a dispute at the school and some of these students who are in ms13 killed his daughter. He said, we came all the way from El Salvador to Long Island, New York to try to escape this violence. And it's followed us here. And this is what happens when you have no control over the borders, when you don't enforce
Starting point is 00:12:41 laws, when you do the types of things that we see all the Soros district attorneys wanting to do in California, let out the violent criminals. We want chaos. That's what they want. And so when you look at what is happening at the border, this story, not from Breitbart, as you would expect, and this is from France 24. The dead keep coming. Violence is overwhelming Mexico's morgues. The dead keep coming and people keep disappearing, said a forensic anthropologist in Mexico City.
Starting point is 00:13:15 At a morgue, they said employees are burning incense, but it could not mask the stench of death or keep the flies away. And the dead just keep coming. We don't want to talk about that. We don't want to do anything about that. How long is it going to be before this kind of internecine warfare between gangs and the rest of this stuff comes in a big way to America?
Starting point is 00:13:42 A lot of it is already here, as I pointed out. You know, MS-13. MS-13 actually began in L.A. and then went back to El Salvador and drew from those connections there. When we talk about murder, mass murder that just won't stop, nothing compares to abortion. Nothing compares to abortion. Nothing compares to it. And so on Armistice Day in
Starting point is 00:14:09 Europe, they call it Armistice Day, celebrating the end of World War I, and you had a French priest who did, as a Protestant we call it a sermon, they call it a homily. So he is talking about the issue of life, because they're getting ready in France to amend their constitution to support abortion. And he said abortion has more victims than World War I. Far more. Far more. So now he has been suspended by the diocese there for telling people the truth.
Starting point is 00:14:52 At mass, he was talking about mass murder. On Armistice Day, that's on November the 11th, in a parish church in a very small town, and it got their attention. I mean, it wasn't like he had a big church. Nobody's got a big church anymore anywhere in Europe. Small church, small town. Abortions cause more deaths in the world than the great war that we're celebrating and remembering today. Where is the remembrance for this Holocaust? He went on to suggest that French politicians should, quote, take an example from Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban, who has made, quote, courageous decisions against abortion, unquote.
Starting point is 00:15:32 And so the diocese told him to abstain for four weeks from any public speaking and the celebrations which he will participate. They said at a time of silence, after reading of the biblical text, it will nourish the faith of the faithful. So they said, shut up and go back and read your Bible. Well, I think that's only going to make him more convinced that he said the right thing.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Maybe they should go back and spend a bit of time reading the Bible. You think rather than listening to politicians who probably called him up on the phone and told him to do this. No, he's following his conscience. He's talking about how God says over and over again that it is an abomination to him, the shedding of innocent blood.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Routinely condemned throughout the Bible, throughout all the history of innocent blood, routinely condemned throughout the Bible, throughout all the history of the Bible. Some have noted the irony that the priest is being punished for stating a fact that is incontrovertibly true. Since worldwide, more than 40 million abortions are performed every single year, whereas some 20 million died in the First World War. I mean, it's beyond insanity.
Starting point is 00:16:55 Twice as many people killed with abortion every year as were killed in the Great War. And that was going to be the war to end all wars. We've got to do something. We've got to create a League of Nations, because if we have a world government, oh, then we won't have anybody killing each other, right? Complete misunderstanding of human nature.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Yeah, the world government will be doing what all of our governments have been doing all around the world for the last two, nearly three years, and that is killing their own people. At LiveScoreBet, we love Cheltenham just as much as we love football. The excitement, the roar, and the chance to reward you. That's why every day of the festival, we're giving new members money back as a free sports bet up to 10 euro if your horse loses
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Starting point is 00:18:01 Going to war with their own people. Abortion is the leading cause of death in the world, dwarfing the number of deaths from cancer, from HIV AIDS, from heart disease, from traffic fatalities, from suicide, from COVID. Even as they manipulate the stats on that. Even killing more people than the vaccines.
Starting point is 00:18:23 But that's going to be building over time. The priest's comments on abortion occurred just as France is contemplating inserting a right to abortion in the national constitution. Let's talk a little bit about the legal issues here. This is sent to me by a listener who is a lawyer. And they are so desperate to deny the humanity of these children that, just as I told you yesterday, look, pharmaceutical companies already have designs on vaccinating kids with an MRA, untested stuff, for RSV. Untested RSV vaccine. Got to get them before they're born. Are you kidding me?
Starting point is 00:19:11 It's one of the most common diseases out there. Occasionally, you'll have somebody have an issue with it, but we've seen this same type of mania from pharmaceutical industry over and over again. Measles is in the same category. And look at how insane they've gotten. And look at how Trump supported them on that. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:19:28 You got to have the measles shot. You can't go to school, even a private school, even a private school that has religious objections to this. No, no. You got to get that measles shot. Yeah, there were occasionally people that would have reactions to it. I had never heard anything about that as a child. And neither had our parents everywhere.
Starting point is 00:19:50 Karen grew up in New York. I grew up in Florida. Everywhere. Parents wanted their kids to get measles and these childhood diseases at an early age. There were no vaccines for them. Now they've got to mandate them. And they want to do it now to babies before they're born. But they're not human, right? So we've got to vaccinate them for their own good, but they're not human and we can kill them. It's amazing when you look at abortion,
Starting point is 00:20:17 all of these contradictions, oh, the mother can kill the baby and we should even protect that, pay for it, all the rest of this. But if there's a violent attack and somebody attacks a pregnant woman and the baby dies, they treat that as a murder. She gets shot, the mother and the baby. That's two counts of murder. But the mom can, in many cases, get government money and subsidies, government protection, to murder her own child. And so we have in this particular law, this is an Indiana law that says that you will dispose of the remains
Starting point is 00:21:03 of the baby that you've just ripped apart or that you've chemically burned to death. You will bury those remains. And so these people don't like that because that speaks to the child's humanity. And they fought it over and over again. And so this headline from a law website in Indiana, an exasperated Seventh Circuit reverses the block on Indiana's fetal disposition law. In an outright reversal, which is unusual, the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals has upheld Indiana's law requiring fetal remains to be buried or cremated and chastised the Indiana Southern District Court for blocking the statute in the first place. They said the district court could have provided full relief to these plaintiffs by enjoining the application of the statute to them,
Starting point is 00:22:00 but instead it barred multiple state officials from applying these laws to anyone. So the Seventh Circuit Court opted to reverse it outright. Since the law was enacted in 2016, the fetal disposition statute in Indiana has been challenged all the way to the Supreme Court. court. A decision that was issued in 2009, affirmed 2019, affirmed the law, finding the statute was rationally related to the state's interest. The district court's needlessly broad injunction, this is what the judge wrote in this decision where they threw this thing out.
Starting point is 00:22:43 They said the district court's needlessly broad injunction treats the statute as invalid across the board. That is on its face rather than as applied, which is effectively countermanding the Supreme Court's decision for the entire population of Indiana. Like, what are you guys thinking? This has already gone all the way up to the Supreme Court. They have rendered their decision. Well, it's because the people who want to kill babies
Starting point is 00:23:09 are not going to take no for an answer. That's why, you know, the Democrats want to now say, well, we try to federalize killing babies and allow people to kill babies based on a Supreme Court decision. So now that that's failed, let's try to do it with the Congress. Well, the problem is that the federal government has no authority to make any decisions, any branch. Can't do it by executive order. Biden can't do it. The Supreme Court doesn't have the authority to do that.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Congress doesn't have the authority to do that. I've been saying that for years. I said, where is all of these brave Republicans who run pro-life? Where is a single Republican governor, a single Republican legislature that is going to stand up and say under the 10th Amendment, you don't have the authority, Supreme Court, for a Roe v. Wade decision? That should have been done by Texas when it first happened. No, that was a Texas case. They should have said, well, that's an interesting opinion. Let's see you enforce it, which is what Andrew Jackson said, even though what he was doing was wrong.
Starting point is 00:24:17 But they would have had God and the Constitution on their side. But they didn't have a backbone. Anyway, the plaintiffs were represented by the Lawyering Project, and this is the Lawyering Project, the Lawyering Up Project. It is all about abortion nationwide. And so they said, we're currently exploring all options with plaintiffs to ensure abortion patients can get the care they need with the dignity they deserve.
Starting point is 00:24:44 Oh, okay, death with dignity. No, what they're talking about is murder with dignity. Again, they're going to vaccinate the unborn with RSV vaccine that has not been tested. But it's all about denying the humanity after they have done to a baby what you saw in that animated film, The Procedure. If you haven't seen it, you need to make yourself see it at least once.
Starting point is 00:25:15 So with all this happening, we have these pregnancy centers who give counseling and other options other than murdering the baby. Boy, does that get people like Elizabeth Warren upset. Boy, you can just see. Nothing gets her more animated than the fact that somebody would help someone to not murder their child. And so this is a pastor who's had a pro-life clinic in upstate New York, and it was firebombed, firebombed, after the leaking of the Dobbs decision, which overturned Roe v. Wade. He contacted the FBI
Starting point is 00:25:55 after his crisis pregnancy center was firebombed, and he said, the FBI literally started screaming at me. This story is from Faithwire. So, you know, where is the dignity? Where is the care? Where's the health care? You know, you got people going there, having a baby. That is not as risky as having an abortion. And where's their choice in all this? Where's the freedom of speech? Where's the freedom, the free exercise of religion and all the rest of this stuff?
Starting point is 00:26:32 No liberty, no freedom, no dignity. So he runs Crisis Pregnancy Centers in upstate New York. He said it was surreal what happened with the FBI officials. After his pro-life clinic was firebombed, he said agents screamed at him on the phone and waited for months to put out a wanted poster. Reverend Jim Harden, president of Compass Care Pregnancy Services in Rochester, New York, said that his Buffalo clinic was firebombed in June, just weeks before the U.S. Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade. So he said, with respect to local law enforcement, they've been the most communicative.
Starting point is 00:27:11 But he added a caveat that he believes that the FBI had negatively influenced the local authorities. He said, the FBI stopped communicating with us. They refused to communicate with me after June the 24th, the day the Dobbs case came out officially that overturned Roe v. Wade. The faith leader said his relationship with the FBI became tenser when he asked on the evening of June 24th if officials would do anything to help protect his clinic in light of the Supreme Court decision and the rage and the anger that followed. But rather than pledge assistance, he said, the FBI, quote, communicated
Starting point is 00:27:52 rage, unquote. He said, they literally started screaming at me on the phone. I'm not kidding you. It was a surreal incident. He and his family had to move locations due to threats and attacks, and he was concerned considering one clinic had already been firebombed. At LiveScoreBet, we love Cheltenham just as much as we love football. The excitement, the roar, and the chance to reward you. That's why every day of the festival, we're giving new members money back as a free sports bet up to 10 euro if your horse loses on a selected race that's how we celebrate the biggest week in racing cheltenham with live score bet this is total betting sign up by 2 p.m 14th of march bet within 48 hours of race main market excluding specials and place bets terms apply bet responsibly 18
Starting point is 00:28:39 plus gamblingcare.ie he said during those months of silence from the FBI, his organization also began challenging authorities in court to give back surveillance footage. If you guys aren't going to investigate this, I can hire somebody that does, perhaps, he's saying. So he'd given it to them on the night of the attack. They'd done nothing. They'd sat on it. He said they didn't communicate with me up until October the 12th.
Starting point is 00:29:06 That was a day that Ted Cruz and others released a letter to FBI Director Christopher Wray asking why violence against pro-life organizations was reportedly not being investigated with appropriate fervor. Didn't mention him. Just said, you know, there's a lot of these organizations. This is firebombing. that's being done to offices. People could die. Graffiti that's being done to these places and to churches.
Starting point is 00:29:34 And you're doing nothing. Oh, well, let's communicate with him. That was October the 12th. Months. He said he received a call just hours after the letter was released, the FBI officials asking to talk to him. He said, though, they wanted to talk about our characterization of the FBI. They don't want to talk about finding the criminals and stopping this.
Starting point is 00:29:57 They're only concerned about how they appear. There's a clue to what the FBI is about. It's federal, but it's bureaucrats. It's a federal bureaucracy. That's what the FB stands for, federal bureaucracy. And of course, now we see with the eye, it's typically instigation rather than investigation. They want to talk about our characterization of the FBI and the media and our lawsuit that we filed to get our video surveillance back. Oh, they don't want to give the surveillance back. They have to fire a lawsuit.
Starting point is 00:30:35 And so the FBI wants to talk to them about that. See how insular and self-protective they are. Anyway, he said this was a hit job when they attacked the clinic. These people knew exactly what they were doing. They didn't miss a step. They knew how to break windows without getting hurt. They knew how to make Molotov cocktails on the spot. They didn't care that they were being recorded. They're very well trained. So the FBI is not interested in looking at that at all we're going to take a quick break and when we come back I want to talk about what they are interested in what they are interested in and that is Stuart Rose but before I do real quickly I thought this is very unusual we've seen a lot of arson directed at these pro-life clinics.
Starting point is 00:31:27 We saw cities burned and we were told, ah, it's mostly peaceful, we don't care. But Biden's Secret Service rental vehicles, reports Fox News, burst into flames after he left his vacation in Nantucket. Secret Service had rented vehicles to protect Biden and his family over the Thanksgiving holiday, and Secret Service's rented vehicles then burned in an airport parking lot after they left.
Starting point is 00:31:57 What did they leave behind? Did they leave their laptops there? Is this a rehearsal for how to incinerate a hundred Biden's laptop? Can they remotely fire up your lithium batteries? I don't know. Uh, but, um,
Starting point is 00:32:14 yeah, so he's vacationing on a very expensive Island. Now, what is interesting about this is they, they rented, this is all of the rental cars that the secret service five they rented five cars from hertz and all five of them burst into flames after they turned it in i burned the evidence whatever was in those things i don't know
Starting point is 00:32:42 what they were doing fire footage shows firefighters spraying down the smoldering remains of one vehicle's engine block. The five vehicles include a Chevy Suburban Ford Explorer, infinity QX 80, a Ford expedition and a Jeep gladiator. They're all different makes. The vehicles were parked at the Nantucket airport and the blaze reportedly spread to just 40 feet away from the facility's jet fuel tanks. Wow.
Starting point is 00:33:08 Currently unknown what caused the fire. Just like we don't know what caused any of the stuff that the Bidens were involved in, right? At about 5.20 in the morning, airport shift staff observed an active fire in the rental car overflow area. Staff activated the alert system, responded to the fire in airport three, where they were met by responding units from the fire department and the police department. Isn't that strange? And yet, you know, there's something that just may be a coincidence. But, you know, Biden just pointed out that he's going to keep the JFK assassination record secret.
Starting point is 00:33:53 I don't know. Is this a veil? I'm not saying it's a veil threat at all. I'm just saying it's just so strange. And it is, you know, the whole term conspiracy theory, of course, was invented by who was it? Oh, yeah, the FBI. The FBI invented that term to try to make anyone who questioned their absurd story about a lone shooter with a bolt action rifle the president, uh, through a tree that was there.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Um, all these other than the magic bullet, the rest of the stuff, it's like, nobody believed that. Nobody believed that. Uh, uh, you know, I, I was a very young child when that happened. I was like eight years old. Nobody believed that. Uh, so, uh, to get people to shut up, they decided that they would mock people who questioned their absurd, impossible narrative. And they keep this secret now.
Starting point is 00:34:55 Here we are. We're coming up to about 60 years of this. Trump said that he would declassify all this stuff. He didn't do it. Biden is not going to do it. Trump said that he would declassify all this stuff, right? He didn't do it. Biden is not going to do it. But I really don't know what's going on with that fire there. That is really strange.
Starting point is 00:35:17 So we're going to take a quick break. Before we go to break, I want to thank Greg Talent. Thank you very much for the tip. And Utopian Lobotomy. Thank you very much for the tip, of you and um i'll uh at live score bet we love cheltenham just as much as we love football the excitement the roar and the chance to reward you that's why every day of the festival we're giving new members money back as a free sports bet up to 10 euro if your horse loses on a selected race. That's how we celebrate the biggest week in racing. Cheltenham with LiveScore Bet.
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Starting point is 00:41:32 healing process that is an issue. Let's talk about what happened in the verdict for the Oath Keepers and Stuart Rhodes who founded it. I've interviewed Stuart Rhodes many times over the years. I hadn't interviewed him for many years until all this nonsense about the election after the election with Trump and that was being pushed by Infowars. And so I had him on and he seemed to have changed quite a bit, quite a bit from when I talked to him in the past. And so I don't really know what's going on with his personal life. I know that he's got an ex-wife who really hates him. That's not uncommon to see that for whatever reason.
Starting point is 00:42:17 But his children also were putting out celebratory tweets about him going to prison. So I don't really know what's happening with Stuart. I know that I had a lot of people contact me and make allegations about the fact that there was an appropriate handling of money. There's a lot of things that were questionable that were happening in the organization. So between that and between the kind of deranged cheerleading that was going on at InfoWars and throughout the whole MAGA cult at the time about, you know, we got to stop the steal. We got to do whatever is necessary to stop. It's like exactly what is that going to look like? What in the world do you think you can do? And of course, a lot of people just sent money.
Starting point is 00:42:53 And Trump himself made $250 million after the election. He made more after the election than he did before the election. So now he has been found guilty. And one of his co-defendants also Kelly Meggs has been found guilty of seditious conspiracy. This is such a rare charge that when it was first made, you had, um, Darren Beatty who runs revolver website, you know, he's deeply connected with Steve bannon and a bunch of other people like that and um used to be a speechwriter or something in the trump administration i forget exactly what he did but it was something like that and he was making all these allegations
Starting point is 00:43:36 against one person after the other saying that they were federal agents that they were agent provocateurs and all the rest of the stuff. And when the charges about seditious conspiracy came out with Stuart Rhodes, he said, see, that proves it. That is such a prosecutorial overreach. They'll never prove that. They'll never find him guilty. They're doing that to protect their source. They go to this charge that's absolutely ridiculous because he's one of theirs.
Starting point is 00:44:06 And so I looked yesterday after this news came out, the afternoon, and I don't know if there's anything on the site now at Revolver, but as of last night, I didn't see anything, nothing about that. Crickets. Crickets. So I guess, Darren, you were wrong about him being a Fed, right? Because now the Feds are going to send him to jail for 20 to 40 years. He was found guilty of two charges.
Starting point is 00:44:35 According to Reuters, each of those charges carry a maximum sentence of 20 years. And in this politicized environment, which is why they were able to, this thing was, you know, like a civil war era charge. They've only successfully done it like once or twice. One of those was from some Puerto Rican people who were fighting for Puerto Rican independence. They had actually had violent terrorist attacks where they killed people.
Starting point is 00:45:09 And they actually went into the Capitol, and they'd carried out over 130 bombings in the United States, these Puerto Rican independence group. It was called FALN. And in 1999, well, he was in 1981, Oscar Lopez Rivera, the guy who was during that, was sentenced to 70 years in prison for a seditious conspiracy, among other offenses. So they added some of the other stuff and again i would imagine that him that um stewart and this other person being found guilty of these two charges are looking at 40 years anyway he was sentenced to 70 years in prison in 1981 uh for these 130 bombings
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Starting point is 00:46:50 because some of the other people that I was involved with didn't get it. So I'm not going to let you, I'm not going to go free and leave these other people in prison, other comrades or whatever. And so then Obama commuted his sentence and he was released in 2017, having served 36 years in prison. But many people will, you know, these types of charges have been made by people
Starting point is 00:47:17 that were set up by the FBI, the huttery Christian Patriot Militia. I look at Stuart Rhodes' situation and I think it's more like that than anything else. Got a lot of people out there shooting their mouths off. Maybe the bottle is doing the talking. I don't know if they were drunk. Same type of thing you saw the Hutter Reed Militia. But just understand, and it's one of the reasons I want to talk about this is because understand when you, whatever you say, you know, we've been told this as Christians and for somebody who talks for three hours publicly a day is something that really concerns me. We will have to answer to God for everything that comes out of our mouth.
Starting point is 00:48:02 And so I've got a lot to answer for because I get pretty angry with people. And I try not to focus on ad hominem attacks, but then I try to also understand that we don't wrestle with flesh and blood, but there's other things behind this, and we should see the people who are attacking us as someone who has been a victim themselves, as being manipulated themselves. But I'm human and I make that mistake.
Starting point is 00:48:33 And so sometimes I get really angry at the individuals. But the government has godlike powers now. Understand that they are keeping a record. God's got everything recorded in his book, but so does the NSA. Nothing falls to the ground. And if they don't like you, they will go back and misconstrue, if necessary,
Starting point is 00:49:01 the statements that you made. And I think that is exactly what's happening here. So the charges of seditious conspiracy have also been made. There's another trial of Oath Keepers that's going to begin in December. And there's also the Proud Boys, and that includes Joe Biggs, who I know. I've done a lot of reporting with Joe. I know him personally. I've only interviewed Stuart Rhodes several times. But I do know Joe Biggs, and I'm really concerned for him
Starting point is 00:49:38 and this politicized environment. You understand this goes back to the Civil War, right? Seditious conspiracy to overthrow the government by violence or some other things. Do you realize that they never brought charges against Jefferson Davis, the president of the Confederacy, against any of the generals, Confederate generals? They never brought that charge against any of them.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Why do you think that is? Do you think that maybe after four years and hundreds of thousands of people dead on both sides, you think maybe they just want, let's stop this? Do you think maybe they wanted peace more than anything, more than revenge? I think that was the situation. And it concerns me that today we have a government that doesn't want peace. It wants revenge. And this is why I say, you know, when you have these useful idiots like Nick Fuentes and Kanye West and Alex Jones and all the rest of these people who are out there dividing people. Trump as the key example of this.
Starting point is 00:50:49 And that's on our side. The other side is just as bad. You know, the ADL and all the woke people. We hate white people. We hate America. Let's tear down the monuments and everything. They want to have a civil war. And this is another example of it. They don't want to have peace.
Starting point is 00:51:11 They want people, they want chaos, they want disruption. They're doing it from the inside and they're doing it iteratively, just as Fauci had talked about. So Stuart Rhodes and his co-defendants, there were five of them there. All of them were convicted of obstruction of an official proceeding, the congressional certification of the election results. And then they also convicted Stuart Rhodes and Kelly Meggs of seditious conspiracy. The charges of seditious conspiracy, says Reuters, and obstruction of an official proceeding, each carry a sentence of up to 20 years in prison. Now, I've not seen this in most of the article.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Almost all the articles, they say, well, it's a maximum of 20 years. But the other articles also don't talk about the fact that the other three defendants were also convicted of obstruction of an official proceeding. They just make it sound like only Stuart Rhodes and this other individual were convicted. And then they talk about the 20-year max sentence for that particular charge. But there's another charge, and that charge, I think Reuters is right. I think they're more specific about this. And they had made some other charges against them as well. They had had a conspiracy to obstruct.
Starting point is 00:52:30 Because you understand that anytime the government charges you with a crime, they will also throw in conspiracy. They love conspiracy theories. So I think they're looking at 40 years. Because I think this is so politicized. They would not have gotten the conviction if it wasn't politicized. And so I expect the sentencing will be as well. Uh, so there's going to be a couple more trials that are coming up.
Starting point is 00:52:56 Uh, James Lee Brighton, attorney for Rhodes says he thinks this verdict is going to show how the justice department is going to proceed in these other prosecutions for seditious conspiracy. He said, the return in this, even though we're not pleased with it, probably speaks to the fact that the Department of Justice is going full steam ahead in the same fashion on all the other cases as well. So, you know, he founded Oath Keepers back in 2009. Actually, I saw Jessica Radick, who runs a law firm that helps whistleblowers. And NSA whistleblowers, CIA whistlebl have been protected under the whistleblower legislation. And she said, I don't know what's happened to this guy, and I don't know either.
Starting point is 00:53:59 But Stuart did a lot of really good stuff. I remember talking to him about the NDAA and the, you know, the dangers of that and the authorization for the use of military force, how that was an open-ended order, just like this unending emergency COVID, you know, emergency. Well,
Starting point is 00:54:18 the authorization for the use of a military force is the same type of thing. That's the way it's being used by the government to give them some kind of a justification for a continual war anywhere without having the Congress, um, deliberate on it. Uh, so they said it's members.
Starting point is 00:54:35 This is how it's, uh, this is Reuters characterization of the oath keepers. It's members have showed up often heavily armed at protests and political events around the United States, including the racial justice demonstrations in Minneapolis after George Floyd was killed. Is that the way that you would characterize it? You know, mostly peaceful?
Starting point is 00:54:55 They were racial justice demonstrations? No, they were burning the city down. Then what I remember was oath keepers showed up and they stood with store owners standing in front of their buildings or standing on the roof or whatever, just holding guns, say, you know, as a deterrent. That's the purpose of the second amendment. It's a deterrent to crime. It's a deterrent to a government attacking us. The purpose of the second amendment is the same reason, you know, what we had with mutually assured destruction during the Cold War. Don't launch those missiles because we got missiles that will launch back at you. And so if you stand there with a gun, if you've got an armed citizenry, it is a deterrent
Starting point is 00:55:40 to a tyrannical government or to a mob. And they did an excellent job there. They deserve to be commended, the people who were there. It was not a justice demonstration. It was a riot, burning buildings down, burning businesses down. Rhodes' lawyer, Ed Tarpley, called the verdict a mixed bag. He said there was no evidence introduced to indicate that there was a plan to attack the Capitol. Prosecutors during the trial said Rhodes and his co-defendants plan to use force to prevent
Starting point is 00:56:12 Congress from formally certifying Biden's election. Well, the most damning records that they had, I think, was this recorded phone call where he got somebody who had some connections in the Trump administration as kind of a security person. And he said, I want you to get this message to Donald Trump. At LiveScoreBet, we love Cheltenham just as much as we love football. The excitement, the roar, and the chance to reward you. That's why every day of the festival, we're giving new members money back as a free sports bet up to 10 euro if your horse loses
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Starting point is 00:57:00 specials and place bets. Terms apply. Bet responsibly. 18plusgamblingcare.ie You know, he's got a little bit of time before he leaves office. He wants to declare an insurrection. You know, we'll be doing that or whatever.
Starting point is 00:57:09 But that was after January the 6th anyway. But anyway, the guy did not give that to Donald Trump. And then when everything started getting really bad, he said, well, I better protect myself. So he took that to the FBI. That was, I think, the key evidence that they used against him. 50 witnesses testified during the trial, including Rhodes and two of his co-defendants. They denied plotting any attack or seeking to block Congress from certifying the election results, though Watkins admitted to impeding police officers protecting the Capitol. Watkins is a guy who is a transgender.
Starting point is 00:57:48 I didn't realize that until this trial. He took the stand to, you know, typical, I had a troubled childhood and this and that, and I was bullied in the military and went AWOL. I got kicked out, you know, and all the rest of this stuff. And he was still found guilty of obstruction, and I think he's still looking at up to 20 years. Inflammatory text messages, videos, photos, audio recordings were produced. Rhodes lamenting about not bringing rifles to Washington on January the 6th, saying that he could have hanged U.S. House Representative Speaker Nancy Pelosi. You see, this is why I say, you know, we have to be careful about the types of language that we use
Starting point is 00:58:27 in this kind of environment where the government is looking for ways to persecute dissidents. You need to understand that. It's one of the reasons why I told people, do not go to Washington on January the 6th. He said, first of all, Trump did nothing to support us. He did nothing to support small businesses, Main Street businesses.
Starting point is 00:58:48 He called them non-essential. He did nothing to oppose the mail-in elections. As a matter of fact, he did everything to make that possible by following all the rules that Fauci gave about don't do this and don't do that. He didn't oppose any of that. He didn't fire Fauci after the election as he had hinted that he might. You know, he's very crafty about that. He didn't oppose any of that. He didn't fire Fauci after the election as he had hinted
Starting point is 00:59:06 that he might, you know, he's very crafty about that. So I said, why would you even care if he's there? Well, they cared, you know, because everybody was telling him he's our only hope. You know, he's, he's the guy, he's going to protect us. And that pacified everybody through 2020. And then after the election, it activated them out of anger, frustration, and fear to make sure that he had to stay in no matter what. Here's my money. Do whatever you can. the transgender guy, denied having any plan to storm the building, describing having been swept up as enthusiastic supporters behave on Black Friday. Caldwell, another defendant, who, like Rhodes, did not enter the Capitol building.
Starting point is 00:59:58 See, that's the whole thing they talk about. Well, they had a military stack. They had three people dressed up. I called them LARPers, live action role players. They had three people. Oh, look, you know, Oath Keepers are here. Yay. That's going to create an insurrection or something.
Starting point is 01:00:17 No, no. And then, you know, two of these five, Rhodes and Caldwell, were not even there. Caldwell, as a matter of fact, never even formally joined the Oath Keepers. And so he tried to downplay some of the inflammatory texts that he sent around the attack. Caldwell said, some of the lines were adapted from or inspired by movies such as The Princess Bride or cartoons such as Bugs Bunny. Well, I began the program by talking about how these guys were just arrested and stripped naked to humiliate them by the cutter police because they dressed up like Monty Python crusaders. People don't want to, they can't take a joke, but they will take anything that they can use against you. And that's the key lesson from all of this.
Starting point is 01:01:07 Of course, they're going to be appealing this decision. Uh, but, um, the, uh, it's, I think the thing to take away is, uh, BBB beware bombastic boasting, uh, because that's what this is really about. Oh, yeah, yeah, we're going to do this and we're going to do that. You better. You want to fight? You got one, that type of stuff. In this environment, you might want to be a little bit more circumspect about the way you talk. You can still take people on.
Starting point is 01:01:38 You'll still get censored. But you need to be direct about what you're going to do. Loose lips are not going to sink ships right now, but they will sink your life if you're not careful about what you say. So stop all the loose talk. Stop all the bombastic boasting that's going on out there. That's not going to help anything. So defense attorneys insisted the private messages to one another amounted to flagrant language and did not reflect any larger conspiracy.
Starting point is 01:02:09 Rhodes' lawyer said throughout the trial that the Oath Keepers were waiting for Trump to invoke the Insurrection Act. Defense attorney Philip Linder said the Oath Keepers' main intent on January the 6th was simply to be a peacekeeping force and to provide security for several speakers throughout the week. But here's the key thing. Stuart Rhodes now understands. And this is what he had to say. I think it was stupid to go into the Capitol. One, because it wasn't our mission, Rhodes told the jurors.
Starting point is 01:02:46 And two, it opened the door for our political enemies to persecute us. And that's what happened, and here we are. That was what I was saying throughout all of this stuff. I said, as soon as CIA shill, Steve Pachinik started all this, stop the steal stuff to get everybody hyped up two days after the election. Lie after lie about how, oh yeah, this is a, it was a sting. You know, they printed IDs on the ballots and you had a CISA, the cyber internet security agency.
Starting point is 01:03:23 Oh, they were running this stuff for Trump. And we know who these people are. We got 20,000 National Guard, and they're arresting people right now. Trump's got this. Total lies. And yet, they continue to push that stuff. And people believed it. And so it was stupid.
Starting point is 01:03:44 It was stupid. Now, Rhodes did not go into the Capitol, but I said it was stupid to even go January the 6th because, as he said, number one, it wasn't our mission. Our mission is to protect ourselves and our society. Trump had already made it clear that was not his mission. His mission was to do just the opposite. Whether he was conspiring with Davos or whether he was just their idiot stooge,
Starting point is 01:04:09 that's what he did. He did everything that the globalists wanted, as he presented himself as an anti-globalist. This is why I say you've got to be careful about Musk. That's my sense of Musk. Everybody's like, he's going to say free speech. Free speech is essential to civilization. Yes, it is.
Starting point is 01:04:29 But be careful of these billionaires. I have the same suspicions of Musk that I did of Trump. And by the time this stuff was happening, we knew all of that about Trump. So it was not our mission. Our mission, if you wanted to protest, if you wanted to stand up for freedom, if you wanted to stand up for the Constitution, Stuart, you should have done it through 2020. Why didn't you?
Starting point is 01:04:51 Because you wanted to grow your organization. And I have a long list of people I know that fit in that category. And then what I told everybody, and I was telling everybody this all the way up to january the 5th on my broadcast i've got the records i said don't go it's a trap he said it opened the door for our political enemies to persecute us exactly exactly that's what it was all about. And now he understands. So half of this country said Watkins, still as he took the stand, the guy that calls himself Jessica. He said half this country still feels disenfranchised by that election,
Starting point is 01:05:36 all this COVID stuff. And we didn't have a free election because of all this COVID stuff. So he doesn't understand. Of course, he's unable to understand what gender he is either. So, uh, I don't expect that he would Stewart's smarter. Stewart understands now that he shouldn't have done a bunch of drunken boasting. Uh, but, um, uh, this other guy, you know, still thinks that it was the COVID stuff that messed up the election. No, it was Trump and how he pushed the pandemic and how he pushed the vote-by-mail elections. As a matter of fact, this guy, Jessica Watkins, the trans, 38-year-old trans,
Starting point is 01:06:22 I feel like I was gullible, he said. I got a steady diet of InfoWars and Alex Jones. That's how I found the Oath Keepers in the first place. I probably watched five or six hours a day. And so Daily Beast's headline is, Oath Keepers' Last Ditch Defense. Blame Alex Jones. And they don't want to be too harsh on this jessica guy because you know this is a it's a daily beast they want to buy into all of this left-wing stuff uh she they keep referring
Starting point is 01:06:55 to him as she uh it's a he he once believed the biden administration was poised to enlist the UN to force citizens to get the COVID vaccine. He gleaned the theory, he said, from InfoWars. At LiveScoreBet, we love Cheltenham just as much as we love football. The excitement, the roar, and the chance to reward you. That's why every day of the festival, we're giving new members money back as a free sports bet up to €10 if your horse loses on a selected race. That's how we celebrate the biggest week in racing. Cheltenham with LiveScoreBet. This is total betting.
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Starting point is 01:07:58 Uh, they claim that would have allowed them to use force to support him. Uh, but Watkins admitted Wednesday that he never believed that Trump was going to do that. He also said he didn't have any plans to set foot inside the Capitol, but once he got to the building, Jessica said, Jessica got swept up into the excitement after a crowd started to chant,
Starting point is 01:08:23 oh, the keepers are here. And so they walked up in formation up the stairs. Again, it's just everybody getting everybody else hyped up. But I want to talk about this aspect of it. I've talked for the longest time, trying to get people to understand what geospatial intelligence is. And here's Wired Magazine doing an article, A Peek Inside the FBI's Unprecedented January the 6th Geofence Dragnet.
Starting point is 01:08:49 And I've talked about this in many different cases where local law enforcement would go in, and it was a crime, like a rape, and they would go to get people's cell phone records, and they'd say, we want everybody that was in this area at this time, we want you to give us their information. And they all become suspects. And that is what is happening in a massive way, massive way with January the 6th. And I'll talk about how big
Starting point is 01:09:19 this is, but first of all, understand how dangerous that is. Guilt, just because you're in an area, they don't have anything other than that. And when we look at how off the rails our justice system is, it is a very serious thing to be accused of something because of the way that they will hide exculpatory evidence, evidence that will show your innocence and all the rest of this stuff. So to become a suspect like that on the basis of a geo fence, drag net, but this is about geospatial intelligence and not even wired magazine will use that. It's amazing because it's a whole subdivision, the fastest growing subdivision of the intelligence community since the late 1990s. That's where James Clapper made his career. His mark was in geospatial intelligence.
Starting point is 01:10:05 They used to have before the lockdowns, they would have conventions on an annual basis where they'd have 4,000 or 5,000 people show up to talk about geospatial intelligence. But you will not see that mentioned anywhere. That is why I talk about it all the time. Because for the longest time, everybody tried to pretend that the NSA didn't exist. They would joke, if you said anything about it, no such agency is what that stands for. And so if you want to know what, you know, the state of the art in terms of government surveillance moving against you and that type of thing, it's the things that they won't talk about. Nobody will mention the term
Starting point is 01:10:43 geospatial intelligence in the media, and that includes Wired Magazine. So Google provided investigators with location data for more than 5,000 devices. This is why people who just showed up to peacefully protest because they drew this fence around a big, big, big area. And so people who just showed up and peacefully protest, that's why they've been raided at home by the FBI, is on the basis of this geofence warrant that is out there. So how is this thing working? They said that Google initially identified 5,723 people.
Starting point is 01:11:24 They said so far, and this is Wired Magazine, they're whining about this. Well, only 900 have been charged. 900 people got charged on the basis of this stuff for the most part. And they want more. They want everybody that was there. Because this is, geospatial intelligence is about mapping you and mapping your religious and political beliefs. They are, as Michael Hayden said, we're not interested in bad guys. We're interested in interesting people.
Starting point is 01:11:56 And they take an interest in you if you oppose them politically. So 5,723 people identified by Google, 900 people have been charged. And as I pointed out in this article, usually Google does about 10,000 of these things a year, you know, uh, pointing the finger at somebody using this geofence, uh, geospatial intelligence from the fence drawn around an area. So that's usually about 10,000 people. Think about that. That's about 60% of what they will do in a year. They did it January the 6th.
Starting point is 01:12:35 See, that's why I say the people who led them in with the Stop the Steal stuff and the Save America thing, making tons of money record year, record year for Alex, you know, Judas goats leading people. And he knows this stuff. I knew it. I was speaking against it. That's why he said, um, no, I can't afford to have him. Oh, I was going to bust his, uh, I was going to bust his scam wide open. And I did my very best to do it. Uh, I'm going to tell people exactly what it was. He wanted to make even more money so he could stash it and shell corporations and give it to relatives and offshore the rest of this stuff.
Starting point is 01:13:19 So, um, what if people were there? Does that matter? As I pointed out, a lot of times people become suspects just because they were in a broad region when a crime happened. In 50 of these January the 6th cases, geofencing was the initial ID. And I just mention all this because I want you to be aware of what a big issue geospatial intelligence is.
Starting point is 01:13:45 They also flagged anybody. This is also interesting. Anybody that Google could get their information, anybody who deleted their location data between January the 6th and January the 13th. I mean, you could be somebody living in Alaska and you never went to Washington, but if you got rid of your geospatial location data during that week, oh, well, let's send your information to the Department of Justice. You see how dangerous this broad dragnet is?
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Starting point is 01:17:08 I do enjoy playing them, something I always used to enjoy doing when I was working as a musician and just the years that I was studying. But I want to talk about China and begin with the Babylon Bee story. They're right on top of everything. China taps Governor Gretchen Whitmer to lead the lockdown enforcement. Who better?
Starting point is 01:17:28 Well, you might be able to get Trudeau, you know, or Chrystia Friedland, his other Davos cohort. But anyway, this week, dozens of Chinese citizens died after the Chinese Communist Party welded their apartment doors shut and a fire broke out in the building, sparking protests. And I've shown you the pictures of those things. I mean, it's amazing what they're doing to people. Go to the outside and right in front of the door, drill a hole into the concrete, and then put a rod there so they can't open the door. I mean, when we stop and think about COVID,
Starting point is 01:17:59 look at how everything has been reversed. You know, it used to be fire marshals and fire codes and all this other kind of stuff. I don't know how it used to be, uh, fire marshals and fire codes and all this other kind of stuff. I don't know how it is in China, but you know, uh, that, that was the key thing. I mean, we, we had issue after issue with our stores, uh, try to get a CO for them when we'd open them. And I mean, the fire inspectors would just, they had to find something, you know, they were all over everything. Just like you had, uh, you know, the FDA and these other consumer safety organizations. Now we had one child that was injured and another one that died in a crib. We're going to ban those things, right? We have two plane flights out of 8,200
Starting point is 01:18:37 plane flights that crashed. So we're going to ban that plane, all the rest of that stuff, all that stuff just goes away. Oh, OSHA, which used to say, well, if you're working in a really, really dusty environment, you're going to have to wear some of those N95 masks. But you can't wear them for more than 20 minutes. You've got to give people a break because that's unhealthy for people to have a mask on their face for longer than 20 minutes. Now they go the other direction and say, you're going to have to wear a mask. All the rest of it, they just turned the world upside down with this stuff.
Starting point is 01:19:06 Anyway, going back to the Babylon Bee, China has doubled down on its zero COVID policy. And so now they've tapped Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer to lead lockdown enforcement measures. A Chinese Communist Party spokesman said in a statement, Michigan's lockdowns were wonderfully effective in slowing the spread of COVID as well as the spread of freedom. Our shared values with Whitmer, who we have affectionately dubbed the Ice Queen, make her the ideal candidate to lock down our citizens under brutal totalitarian rule. Frankly, this woman is a pro. And at publishing time, Whitmer had accepted the offer letter from the Chinese Communist Party and solemnly announced that all Chinese citizens are equal, but some are more equal than others.
Starting point is 01:19:51 Yeah, animal farm reference there, right? And so what is happening? Well, the tanks are now rolling out on China's streets, and there are pictures that have surfaced there. As people said, this is the biggest response to anything we've had since Tiananmen Square. But other people have pointed out that even though there have been protests and even though you had something that was really huge like Tiananmen Square, this is broadly based across a lot of different cities and over one particular issue. And that is something that's different.
Starting point is 01:20:26 But look at this crowd. Look at that mass of people. And they are rocking a pickup truck about to turn that over. Quite frankly, when we went to China, we were in a retail area where it was crowded like that. It was pretty amazing. And, um, it wasn't a, uh, yeah, maybe pull that up to the tank video. Um, all of us will never forget. It was a massive crowd, only slightly less dense than this in the shopping area. And then an armored truck pulled up and you could see the guys in the armored truck and, um, they
Starting point is 01:21:04 had shotguns in there and I'm looking through the window and they've got shotguns and they got out and it's a massive crowd like that. And they leveled the shotgun at the crowd. I couldn't believe it. I've never heard of anything like muzzle control or anything. I said, let's get out of here. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:21:20 Somebody says that they want to try to rob something. We're all going to get shot. Uh, but it is, uh, it's just the massive number of people in China you can't even believe. But look at that crowd. I mean, you don't see that kind of situation in terms of protests in China ever. Show the picture of the tank rolling down the street as well. So there's the tanks as they're rolling down the street. Some people are speculating, well, where are they headed?
Starting point is 01:21:44 What are they going to do with that? And they're rolling out other types of things as well. They have drones that are spraying people. There's more pictures of tanks, but let's show you this. These are drones. Look at this. Is this sci-fi or what? These drones got lights on them on one side or the other.
Starting point is 01:22:05 One side is red, one side is green. I think that's to help the people who are flying them be able to get their orientation at night. But that's pretty dystopian. You know, these red and green lights and spray coming down from them, nobody knows what they're spraying. Who knows? China's vast security apparatus is now swung into action to flood the streets with police. To identify those who've been taking part in the demonstrations, a column of tanks spotted on the eastern side of Zuzhou,
Starting point is 01:22:39 I guess is how you pronounce that. It's exactly what, you know, if they want to identify people on the streets and stuff, and they just need to call Google, need to get their phone information. It's just going to be that simple, right? And if they're going to send tanks out and start spraying people with drones, they need to talk to Biden and to Beto and to Swalwell, who said, yeah, you know, we got the military. We can use them against people. So take your guns, yeah, you know, we got the military. We can use them against people to take your guns, whatever, you know,
Starting point is 01:23:08 whatever we feel like. And, and what's amazing is to see how the people who have been censoring us, hating us, anybody small crowds that would show up to protest any of these Gretchen Whitmer type measures that she was continually being paid by Donald Trump to do. You know, that's the thing. That was what everybody was being told.
Starting point is 01:23:30 Well, you know, it's only these Democrat governors. Trump is not in on this. No, he's paying it. He's financing it. He's producing it. So the protests have seen individual acts of heroin. Heroism. Hero acts of heroism. Heroism?
Starting point is 01:23:47 Heroism. Yeah, that's true. But they never say this about any of the Western protests. Did you hear them talking about the heroism and the peacefulness of the Freedom Convoy? I mean, it truly was amazing how they kept it peaceful. And no hotheads do something like January the 6th or something. That truly was amazing. And yet nobody gave them any credit for that. They were punished. Chinese authorities have begun inquiries into some of the people who gathered at weekend protests as police remained out in numbers on the city's streets. In one case, a caller identifying as a police officer in the Chinese capital
Starting point is 01:24:29 asked a protester to show up at a police station yesterday to deliver a written record of their activities on Sunday night. Now, I've taken a clue from the IRS now, right? I want you to give me a report to incriminate yourself. I say that you're guilty. We don't have any assumption of innocence until you're proven guilty. You are guilty because I say so.
Starting point is 01:24:54 So give me a record, you know, of all of your activities, which is what the income tax is about, and prove that you're innocent, or I'll just impute some income to you, or, you know, some nefarious ideas there. We are all desperately deleting our chat history. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 01:25:12 That's a sign. I just talked about how, oh, anybody that deleted their history within a certain week, January 6th through the 13th, that means that you are trying to hide something. And that makes you a suspect. And by the way, you know, I'm sure the Chinese have got their thing where they record everything that everybody does all the time, just like the NSA does. You know, the NSA has got that massive city of computers in Utah. They have one in Maryland as well to store everything. So too late.
Starting point is 01:25:50 There are just too many police. Police came to check the ID of one of my friends and then took her away. We don't even know why. A few hours later, they released her. Well, we'll see what happens in the future. And so, like I said, you know, you've got mainstream media is saying these people are heroes now because they're in China. But the most amazing thing was what Justin Castro in Canada said. Old Trudeau listened to him virtue signal about how he supports freedom of speech and the right to protest the government.
Starting point is 01:26:26 Canadians are watching very closely. Obviously, everyone in China should be allowed to express themselves, should be allowed to share their perspectives and indeed protest. We're going to continue to ensure that China knows we'll stand up for human rights, we'll stand with people who are expressing themselves. We also need to make sure that China and places around the world are respecting journalists and their ability to do their job. We'll continue to make that very clear. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:56 And so as some people pointed out on social media, this is not China. This is Canada. up on social media this is not china this is uh this is canada and uh and other places you could show the same videos of this but this is canada what they're doing to protesters oh yeah we support the right of people to protest says justin trudeau just not me it's great when they do that in poland because you know the polish communist government that wasn't legitimate but we're legitimate because we tell people that uh as he did he said yeah you've got the charter uh but i don't and the charter says it's not allowed but we're going to do it anyway we're going to violate your rights we're going to violate the law because We're legitimate. Yeah. Pretty amazing, isn't it?
Starting point is 01:27:48 Yeah, this is Canada. And it's put together by True North. Did a good job with that. Look at that. Militarized thugs. Running over people with the mounted police. Running over people with their horses, breaking into vans just because they can't do anything that they wish.
Starting point is 01:28:11 Military snipers. I mean, who would have thought that you would see this type of thing in a Western country? But, of course, we saw it in Australia. We saw it in many different places. Who would have thought this would happen? Well, yeah, that is not China. That is not China. But, you know, it is surprising because Trudeau has had a falling out with China.
Starting point is 01:28:37 He did love China simply because it was a dictatorship. He said this. With Sun TV watching for any slip, he was asked which country he most admired and referred to China. There's a level of admiration I actually have for China because their basic dictatorship is allowing them to actually turn their economy around on a dime
Starting point is 01:28:59 and say we need to go green as fast as we need to start investing in solar. I mean, there is a flexibility that I know Stephen Harper must dream about of having a dictatorship that he could do everything he wanted. That I find quite interesting. Yeah. And so he's been dreaming of a dictatorship where he could do whatever he
Starting point is 01:29:17 wanted. He could violate the charter, violate all the laws and still call himself legitimate. Say you are illegitimate. And then the hypocrite, this hypocrite dictator. I mean, they're all that way. Look, George W. Bush said the same thing. You know, sometimes I wish I was like the Chinese dictator. I can just tell people, do whatever I want them to do.
Starting point is 01:29:35 They all want that. Canadians are watching very closely, Trudeau said. And everyone in China should be allowed to express themselves, should be allowed to share their perspectives and to protest. We're going to continue to ensure that China knows that we will stand for human rights. We will stand with people who are expressing themselves. And presumably he will have his mounted police standing on people with their horses as we've already seen because you know trudeau is legit uh and any protest against somebody as legit as a trudeau is illegitimate uh so um yeah the uh there's a cartoon in this article and they have a, she says that we must stop. It's spread.
Starting point is 01:30:27 It's the biggest threat to us. And the guy in a white lab coat says there is no vaccination for freedom. Yeah. The problem is there is, um, you have propaganda. That's their vaccination for freedom. Demonstration also took place outside of the Chinese consulate in Toronto with about 40 people gathered with banners. A lot of people don't want to die in silence, said one of the protesters. I don't
Starting point is 01:30:51 want to stand here and speak to you guys, but I have no choice. He said there was hope that China would gradually reform to a liberal democracy, but that dream has collapsed. Instead, what they got was Justin Trudeau in Canada, who always dreamed of having a dictatorship like China. So we didn't have China move to a liberal democracy. We had a liberal democracy that moved to China. I got a strike and a banned video on Google. The only time that Google banned one of my channels that they gave me, they went through the three strikes and you're out process.
Starting point is 01:31:29 One of those strikes was when was a video that was, uh, said 2020 was the year the world became China. I got a strike on it because Google already became China. They don't want you to know that. So, uh, yeah, instead of China moving the dream of, you know, Trudeau, Republican presidents, Democrat presidents in the U S uh, the UK conservatives and labor, or you look at New Zealand or Australia, all these different, they all want to be dictators. And they've all got a blueprint, a plan, coming from the UN and from Davos.
Starting point is 01:32:10 And so the world has become China. And then they pretend that they haven't. But there's something else that's interesting that's happened with China. And that is how they're using social media, the bots. And we've seen this at the very beginning of all of this as well. But now what the bots are doing, instead of pushing COVID fear porn, they're pushing actual porn. So if you start to look for terms about the mass protests or something, They said it's about 50% porn, and it's what will come back,
Starting point is 01:32:51 because massive robotic attack on Twitter. And if you stop and think about it, isn't this the same? It's not on Twitter that we see this, but this is what they've been doing to the American people my entire life. Don't be interested in politics. We want you focused on porn, or we want you focused on sports, or we want you focused on entertainment of any sort, right?
Starting point is 01:33:16 That's how they keep you away. It's the brave new world approach. You know, we can, you know, don't give a damn. Take a gram of Soma, right? Take some drugs and trip out. If you don't want to take drugs, hey, look, you know, you can escape reality with sports, with entertainment, with porn. They have weaponized that. It's one of the reasons why the CIA is so involved in that kind of stuff, because they can weaponize that as weapons of mass distraction.
Starting point is 01:33:45 Same tactic, except now you're seeing it in a very focused way on one platform, but it's been there in a very broad way in America for a very long time. That's how we got the way we are. That's how we became passive, how these people got the power, and how we just sit back and let it happen. Because people can tell you everything about the sports statistics, but they don't know anything
Starting point is 01:34:10 about what is going on with the real stuff. So, yeah, that's the reality of what... But, you know, when this all happened, it was rolling out in Italy. There were over 100,000 Chinese bots that were pushing fear porn about COVID virus
Starting point is 01:34:29 and directly focusing it to Italy. And that was what allowed the technocrat that was in charge in Italy to push this thing through. And then they bootstrapped that up. They said, oh, look, Italy has done the lockdown like China. This must really be real. We've got two countries that are doing this now. But as I've said many times, we still had information out of Italy
Starting point is 01:34:56 showing that it was nothing, showing that the average age was well over the average age of life expectancy of the people who died. It wasn't that many. And they had two and a half other comorbidities, things that they could have died from and might have died from. But they died with a positive COVID test, they said, when they magnified it by a trillion. And the average age was just over 80 one week and like 79 and a half the next week. But it was two and a half comorbidities.
Starting point is 01:35:25 I said, look, this is nothing. But they created this campaign of fear by using bots. So now they're using bots to push porn out to cover up any searches about the demonstrations. If you search for Chinese protests, you'll mostly see ads for escorts, for porn, for gambling. It will drown any legitimate search results. They said the vast majority of accounts appear to be spam accounts that tweet at a high and steady rate throughout the day, which suggests that it's automation, but it's not a person. Some of these accounts have been dormant for years and now become active again.
Starting point is 01:36:11 I needed them when they were rolling out the COVID porn, and so now they're rolling this out to cover up what is actually happening. Also interesting is, and again, this is all the psychological warfare. This is all the propaganda warfare that is in the background. Apple turned off a protest communication tool right before all the uprising began. They have, and this is coming from Reclaim the Net, they have on the Apple phones, you can use, if you're in close proximity to another phone, you can use AirDrop.
Starting point is 01:36:52 And since AirDrop doesn't go through their centralized network, people could communicate with each other on their devices wirelessly, and they don't have to be seen talking to each other and that type of thing. And they were using that to evade censorship. And so Apple launched an update only in China and they did it right before these protests as they were starting to take off, as people were upset about the people who were locked in and died from this fire. So right as that's happening, Apple works with the Chinese government to restrict the usage to just 10 minutes.
Starting point is 01:37:32 So they can't work with each other. And it's only in China. Just a coincidence, I'm sure. It had also been used, and of course they knew to do this, because it had been used in the Hong Kong protests that eventually that got flooded out by the COVID stuff as well. Thank you, Patricia Bailey. Thank you very much for the tip on Rockfin. I appreciate that. So they rolled out this new feature, China only. Apple has helped Beijing to suppress public dissent multiple times, said Reclaim the Net, mostly by complying with its request to remove apps that were used by protesters for information and communication. But Apple also helps the
Starting point is 01:38:18 Chinese Communist Party prevent users from remaining private by banning VPNs, virtual private networks, in their area. Now, why is this a surprise to anybody? I mean, when you go back and look at this, I've talked about this multiple times, especially because Tim Cook at Apple was the one who coordinated the Proto ban that happened on August the 6th, 2018, where he banned all of us at Infowars off these different places. He contacted Zuckerberg, uh,
Starting point is 01:38:52 that was publicly acknowledged and the two of them talked about what they were going to do, then contacted everybody else. And it was a massive purge. That happened all at once, a kind of crystal knock against free speech. And it was a prototype of how they would roll this stuff out. Tim Cook was at the very center of that. And I've talked about Tim Cook and his connection. Remember when Ed Snowden did his document dump from the NSA, there was a PRISM program. Now, we can speculate what PRISM program is. I know there's a PRISM program that is a part of the Palantir organization.
Starting point is 01:39:36 Palantir is, you know, the guy that's running it is Alex Karp, but Palantir has connections, a lot of connections to Peter Thiel. I believe also some connections to Elon Musk, but especially to the PayPal mafia. And Prism with the Palantir Prism, if that's the same Prism program, is all about geospatial intelligence. It's all about data mining of what you've got on people. Now, when you look at this program, this is the NSA slide. This was leaked by Snowden. Uh,
Starting point is 01:40:08 you go back to 2007, Microsoft, the first one involved as usual. Right. And then, you know, as the years go on the next year, Yahoo joins,
Starting point is 01:40:17 then Google joins in oh nine, Facebook in oh nine, uh, and on and on YouTube and, uh, 2010. And cause I don't think they were owned by Google maybe until 2010. The last one to get on, quite a bit after everybody else, was Apple at the end of 2012.
Starting point is 01:40:40 And I've pointed out many times, Steve Jobs really did not, they tried to rope him in in Washington many times. He really did not like being a part of that. Steve Jobs, by the way, died of a very, very rare form of cancer. I'm sure it's just a coincidence. That's why they roped in Bill Gates. You've seen the testimony that he had where he's rocking back and forth. I don't really know what you mean.
Starting point is 01:41:04 Same type of tactic that Fauci uses. Was this a cover-up? Cover-up? I don't know what you could be meaning by about a cover-up. I don't even know what that means. You have to explain that to me. I have no idea what that is. Yeah, that's what Fauci does too.
Starting point is 01:41:18 He just doesn't rock back and forth because he's an old pro at this stuff. But yeah, they wrote people in. So as Steve Jobs left the company and Tim Cook took over, that's right about the time they joined in with the PRISM program. Tim Cook has been a puppet. He has been a deputy of the intelligence community from the very beginning. And so, yeah, why is that a surprise to see them doing that type of thing? So as people are talking about China using spam bots and everything,
Starting point is 01:41:51 the mainstream media, this is typical of the attack that mainstream media is taking. This is Washington Post. Let's blame Elon Musk for this. It's not China's fault. It's Elon Musk because of what he's done with Twitter. They said Twitter's radically reduced anti-propaganda team grappled on Sunday with a flood of nuisance content in China that researchers said was aimed at reducing the flow of news about stunning widespread protests
Starting point is 01:42:20 against coronavirus restrictions. So it's Twitter and it's Elon Musk's fault. And look, I'm not an Elon Musk apologist. I think he's a very dangerous man, and I think he's positioning himself in a very deceptive way. But at the same time, I think we need to cheer any efforts that are done, even if it's done for his own particular agenda. Just don't get drawn in to supporting the man. Don't get drawn in to thinking as he's trying to get people to think that free speech is
Starting point is 01:42:51 foundational to our civilization. Otherwise, we're going to go into a dark tyranny. That is true. But free speech is not limited to what goes on with Twitter. And Elon Musk is not the savior of mankind. You understand where to draw the line? Support what is right, but don't start cheering these people and don't trust them. Patrick Henry, trust no man, he said, but bind them down with the chains of the Constitution.
Starting point is 01:43:22 That's the way we should be protecting free speech. No trust in Elon Musk, but bind these government structures down with the chains of the constitution and point out the fact that this censorship is really coming from the government. And it's really coming from both parties. Frankly, as Marco Rubio,
Starting point is 01:43:41 who said, you're going to censor who we tell you to censor, right? Not who China tells you to censor. So 50% porn, 50% protests, said one government contractor. Once I got three to four scrolls into the feed to see earlier in the day, and it was all porn. Well, that's what's happening with this. Meanwhile, you got the young people in China crying for freedom.
Starting point is 01:44:04 And this is a CNN article, typical of what we're seeing, oh, you know, from Trudeau and all the rest of his people. All the people who hate free speech and who want to purge any speech that they hate. People like CNN who have essentially been, you know, calling for punishment and discrimination against anybody that doesn't buy into their COVID narrative or their vaccine narrative. You're killing people. You need to be taken out.
Starting point is 01:44:30 Some of them, some of their commentators on CNN calling for us to be imprisoned because we push back against their narrative. But there's no, no hate for the Chinese who are pushing the same stuff on their people. You know, Xi is pushing this Fau-Xi stuff, right? No hate for the Chinese who are pushing the same stuff on their people. You know, Xi is pushing this Fauci stuff, right? Fauci. It sounds Chinese if you say it that way. The CDC, the World Health Organization. He's pushing all that stuff.
Starting point is 01:45:01 Foreign ministry spokesperson dismissed any suggestions of dissent in China. Sounds just like our government. What you mentioned does not reflect what actually happened. He added, authorities have been making adjustments to their COVID policies based on realities on the ground. So a Beijing protester told, and CNN reports this, these people are heroes, and they are heroes. It's just that CNN, double standard. I think in a just society, no one should be criminalized for their speech.
Starting point is 01:45:31 There shouldn't be only one voice in our society. We need a variety of voices. And CNN applauds that when it's in China. Why are they doing that? Well, because CNN is carrying the water for the CIA for the Pentagon and I told you that they see their primary enemy not as Russia as the State Department the Pentagon have said this is bigger than Ukraine and this is bigger than Russia they don't want to fight Russia and Chinese together they want to be the only dog the top dog that means they got to fight Russia and Chinese together. They want to be the only dog, the top dog.
Starting point is 01:46:06 That means they've got to get Russia out of the way so they can get China out of the way. They do it iteratively. But, you know, they're going to come after China's reputation. These people don't care about free speech and protest. They hate free speech and protest everywhere. But they will cheer it. CNN, Trudeau, Fauci.
Starting point is 01:46:27 They'll cheer the anti-lockdown people when they're doing it in China. And then, of course, the UN. The UN is lionizing these people and praising them after hating us for speaking out against this. They have a right to demonstrate peacefully, says the UN. Will Davos be next? Wait for Klaus Schwab to virtue signal about protecting free speech. Well, the U.S. government said the same thing. Jack Kirby, communications coordinator at the National Security Council,
Starting point is 01:46:59 repeatedly reiterated the administration's policy that, quote, people should be allowed the right to assemble and to peacefully protest policies or laws or dictates that they may take issue with. You mean like elections? Stuff like that? You mean like your vaccine mandate? You think that as well? So, yeah, a resident of Shanghai in their 20s who
Starting point is 01:47:28 took part in a candlelight vigil early hours of Sunday. So they were greeted by other young people holding white papers, flowers, and shouting, we want freedom, as they walked toward the makeshift memorial. My friends and I have all experienced Shanghai's lockdown. It went on for so long. I mean, the pictures I played of, you know, the skyscrapers and the lights, and I mean, just here in that big city, people howling at night. So they experienced that. The so-called iron fist of the state has fallen upon all of us. That night I felt I could finally do something. I couldn't sit still.
Starting point is 01:48:04 I had to go. At that moment, I felt I could finally do something. I couldn't sit still. I had to go. At that moment, I felt I'm not alone. I realized I'm not the only one who thinks this way. See, that's the importance of us having free speech. A free press is different. Free speech is the voice of the people. They don't want you to know that there are other people out there who aren't buying this nonsense either. We don't want lifelong rulers. We don't want emperors, they said. Sounds like, you mean a lifelong ruler, like somebody like Fauci? Everyone started shouting these slogans very naturally. It is so rare that we have such large-scale gatherings and demonstrations.
Starting point is 01:48:45 The words of mourning just didn't feel enough. And we had to shout out some words that we want to say. So they started shouting, these people have got to go. We want freedom. We all know the reason why we have to keep undergoing lockdowns and tests is that this is a political movement. It's not scientific, and it's not a logical response of epidemic prevention. That's why we have more political demands other than lifting lockdowns. They understand.
Starting point is 01:49:22 I wish more Americans understood this. This is what I've been saying from the very beginning, from before Trump's lockdowns. I said, this is not a logical response. This is not a scientific or medical response. This is a political movement to take away our freedom, to establish a dictatorship, a medical dictatorship, medical martial law. I was called a radical conspiracy theorist by the ADL, by the Daily Beast, mocked for saying this is medical martial law. It's medical excuse for martial law. So one ex-diplomat says there is no turning back.
Starting point is 01:50:06 President Xi will be ousted in a coup. He said the COVID revolution is bigger than Tiananmen uprising. Well, let's hope that is the case. These people in China who understand what is going on, I don't know how many of them are, but they really are at the front lines of the struggle for freedom right now. And it's going to get rough. We should pray for these people. Furious anti-lockdown demonstrators poured into the streets in eight cities across China. Imagine if this really did cause a coup. Imagine if that were to happen.
Starting point is 01:50:44 If this is perceived as a threat, we know what they're going to do. We've seen it in Tiananmen Square. And I think that Xi is worse than the people who came before him. I think he's far worse. I think he's far more dangerous. And so this former ambassador, a former diplomat, Roger Garside, said as the nation grows exhausted by the country's zero COVID rules, he said there's no turning back now. And he said cops will eventually be ordered to use force on protesters.
Starting point is 01:51:15 And of course, if that doesn't work, they'll use the military on them. There are rolling tanks. He told The Sun online, he said, this has never happened before, the start of the Communist Party rule in China in 1949. Even in 1989, he said, people didn't explicitly call for the leader to step down or for the Communist Party to do so. And so, you know, right now this is a big revolt. I expect that it is going to get much harsher. But you know what drives this, of course, is look at how people are imprisoned.
Starting point is 01:51:53 As this person points out, millions of Chinese people are living in quarantine camps at their own expenses right now. This is from Wall Street Silver. This is how they're getting their food through the airlock. These are prisons. This is not about your health. This is why it's about, this is the single issue. This is the issue of our time. This is the issue in every country around the world. This is what it looks like. That's the hole where they get their food and send it to them. This is a prison. They have locked people into their homes, but a little feeding hole there in the wall. That's what this truly is about. This one person, I don't know, perhaps this was in Canada where they were meeting to talk about this. But here's a young Asian guy, I think maybe Chinese, talking about what CBDC is going to look like. If you go to China, they're piloting it a few years ago in Shenzhen.
Starting point is 01:52:57 So I lived overseas. If you go to Shenzhen, back in 2017, they already had facial recognition cameras there. So if you jaywalked in Shenzhen, they would immediately detect that and send you a notification, and they would deduct money from your what they call WeChat account. They use two main apps. We talked about this for years. We talked about this when it was happening in 2007. So you actually deduct money directly from your account.
Starting point is 01:53:15 This is four years ago. So this is not like some sort of conspiracy theory. It's not something that's going to happen 10 years into the future. This happened pre-corona in China. And so this system in China that exists is extremely advanced. They can detect if it's a man or a woman. They can detect, they can guess your age. They can detect what kind of car model it is, who the manufacturer is. This is a sort of technology that we see in all these dystopian sort of films and whatever. And people keep putting it off and thinking that this is something that's going to happen later in
Starting point is 01:53:39 my kid's lifetime or my grandkids. It's already here. And if this gets implemented anywhere, especially in a Western nation, it's not going away. Israel is already talking about the fourth shot. Then they're going to be going to herpes and they're going to ask if you're gay. They're going to be asking if you ate three pizzas this week because it's unhealthy. Actually, they're going to be asking if you're Christian. Your country doesn't like it. You'll lose points in the social credit score system. So this is already
Starting point is 01:54:00 the reality of the world in certain places and we need to be aware of that if we don't want that or if we do. And to be perfectly honest, anybody who wants his vaccine passport, it's a misnomer. It's total control. Everything you do or don't do will be calculated to the point where
Starting point is 01:54:15 if they can detect your GPS signal, if you have a phone on you, they can detect who you're hanging out with. Oh, you're hanging out with somebody that said something bad nine years ago on Weibo. Of course we know all that. We know they did it at January the 6th. We know this stuff has been there for a very long time. But his point, well taken, is how this all maps up. This is why we knew. I've been talking about this, you know, it all rolled out
Starting point is 01:54:39 in 2020, talking about it, 2017, you know. Somebody jaywalking and immediately it puts their picture up on a screen. It's like, you've been, uh, you've been noticed citizen. And so how this is looking in Hong Kong, chief executive there, John Lee, they don't even call them. They didn't have a political title because you know, what we have is government as business and business as government. So they call this guy John Lee. He's a puppet for the Chinese communists there in Hong Kong. And he was coming after a pro-democracy newspaper tycoon there.
Starting point is 01:55:16 The guy's name is Jimmy Lai. And the top court in Hong Kong ruled against the government in terms of trying to punish this guy for having a free press newspaper. So his, uh, his response to that was to appeal to Beijing to throw this court decision out. That's the way these guys were operating.
Starting point is 01:55:39 Uh, so yeah, Fauci is blaming Trump now for China's COVID coverup. We need to have an open dialogue with a scientists, with their scientists and our scientists, and we need to keep politics out of it, says Fauci. Well, politics was in it. That's why he moved to China. Because he was told, even by Obama and by Congress, to stop doing this stuff.
Starting point is 01:56:05 And so to stop the politicians from stopping him, he went to China. Now he says, oh, you don't want to talk about what I was doing in China because we want to keep politics out of this stuff. He also claimed China often acts secretively, even when there's nothing at all to hide. Oh, you mean like your organization? You mean like everything that our government does? They classify and hide everything even when there is nothing to hide?
Starting point is 01:56:31 You see how like we are to China? But then as these people talk about what's going to be done, how do we stop free speech rolling out? This is what is said in a press conference in America. This is a reporter asking the press secretary, how do we stop people from speaking freely on Twitter? A question about Twitter. You know, there's a researcher at Stanford who says that this is a critical moment, really,
Starting point is 01:57:07 in terms of ensuring that Twitter does not become a vector for misinformation. I mean, are you concerned about the, you know, Elon Musk says there's more and more subscribers coming online. Are you concerned about that, And what tools do you have? Who is it at the White House that is really keeping track of this?
Starting point is 01:57:30 Secretary Sebelius- So, look, this is something that we're certainly keeping an eye on. And, look, we, you know, we have always been very clear that when it comes to social media platforms, it is their responsibility to make sure that when it comes to social media platforms, it is their responsibility to make sure that when it comes to misinformation, when it comes to the hate that we're seeing, that they take action, that they continue to take action. Again, we're all keeping a close eye on this. We're all monitoring what's currently occurring, and we see it with our own eyes of what you all are reporting
Starting point is 01:58:08 and just for ourselves what's happening on Twitter. But again, social media companies have a responsibility to prevent their platforms from being used by any user to incite violence, especially violence directed at individual communities. As we have been seeing and the president has been calling. She's talking about continue to do that. And we're going to continue to monitor the situation. She's talking about this intersectional stuff, right? Yeah, we're gonna take a break. And when we come back, we're going to talk a little bit more about what's going on in the pharmaceutical industry. At the top of the hour,
Starting point is 01:58:40 we're going to be talking to a lawyer military lawyer that's a specialty he's actually instructed been an instructor in that as well um highly ranked a but he is focused on religious liberty because he is a christian he is a homeschooling father and so we're going to talk to him about a large swath of things but especially what is going on right now in the military and where he is focused with the Coast Guard, where he says it has been perhaps one of the worst in terms of the punishment and the removal of religious liberty, the violation of the Constitution. And as a military officer, former military officer himself, he understands that the purpose of the
Starting point is 01:59:24 military is to protect and defend the Constitution. We'll be right back. officer, former military officer himself, he understands that the purpose of the military is to protect and defend the Constitution. We'll be right back. Thank you. Terima kasih telah menonton! And now, the David Knight Show. All right, Dr. McCullough, Peter McCullough, said when Biden vetoes the end to the COVID emergency, that's a red flag. He says they're drunk on power. Again, everybody knows at this point, this is political. It's not medical. Biden says it's over. Pandemic's over.
Starting point is 02:01:00 That's fine. But I'm not going to stop the mandates on the military. I'm not going to stop the emergency executive order because that's about power and about keeping power. As a matter of fact, Dr. McColl had this to say as well. We are deep in trouble now because, uh, there is a clear recognition that this myocarditis in some people can lead to a scar. The scars, a small area of like a scar you see on your skin, but the electricity goes down. And when it goes through the scar, it depolarizes slowly,
Starting point is 02:01:35 then it loops up and it forms re-entry. And when re-entry occurs during a normal cardiac depolarization, that's the nidus for ventricular tachycardia or VT. And that is a heart rhythm. In me or you, that can be well over 200 beats a minute. It starts to make us dizzy. And if we don't do something, it degenerates to ventricular fibrillation, and then we're gone. We're on the floor and CPR is started. And if you've seen any of these montages of these athletes, when this happens, they go down like a rock. They can't even hold out their hands to protect themselves. We're just absolutely slamming to the floor. We have seen montage after montage of people having sudden cardiac death. It's called sudden adult death syndrome. And, you know, myself and Asim Alhotra, a prominent cardiologist in the UK, have come up with the
Starting point is 02:02:16 same conclusion that when we see a young person now who's previously healthy, no antecedent illness, and they suddenly die. And the two patterns are dying in sleep, typically from 3 a.m. to 6 a.m., or dying during sports. By the way, both of those time periods, there's a rise in norepinephrine, epinephrine, which is probably an internal trigger for this. And there's no suicide, there's no drug overdose, there's no motor vehicle accident. It is the COVID-19 vaccine and subclinical myocarditis, like in the Gill paper, until the parents come out or the family comes out and they tell us otherwise.
Starting point is 02:02:51 And the family can clear this up, Del. If they come out and say, listen, they didn't take the vaccine, okay, we'll lay down our concern, but let's be conservative and assume right now that these are fatal vaccine-induced myocarditis cases. He's absolutely right. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:07 How many times? Whenever you do a murder investigation, right, what do you do? You have some theories about what might have happened. And you just use common sense. It's like, well, I've seen this happen over and over and over again. That's going to be the first thing I'm going to look at unless somebody gives me some information other than that. Did we just lose? Okay.
Starting point is 02:03:28 But, yeah, again, he says, but this is about politics. He's talking about the medical side of it. He's pointing out that the medical emergency is the Trump shot. It is a genetic code injection. We're under a national COVID emergency that's been extended. And we're under a national monkeypox emergency. I don't see anybody worried about monkeypox, he said, let alone any perceived emergency.
Starting point is 02:03:51 It is completely, as I pointed out yesterday, the word of the year is gaslighting, right? Because everybody knows now that they're being gaslighted. They're searching that out. Oh, yeah, that is a best way to describe what is happening. The medical scandal of killing patients with ventilators continues. This is from Vaccine Impact. Brian says, doctors made it very clear they were dying from being wrongly placed on these ventilators, and they did from the very beginning.
Starting point is 02:04:16 Dr. Cameron Kyle Siddell was one of the first to speak out on this issue. Had a setup at a COVID ICU center in New York City. He made it clear that the hospital protocols that call for putting these patients on ventilators was wrong, and he addressed the issue in a YouTube video that went viral. Other doctors besides Dr. Kyle Siddell also began speaking about placing COVID patients on ventilators, stating that about 80% of those vented were dying,
Starting point is 02:04:41 that it was the wrong procedure. He's got a statement here from a nurse. It's a different one than the one that I interviewed. The one I interviewed went from Florida to New York because she wanted to help. She said, I didn't see any patients there in Florida. And everybody was saying it's huge in New York. So I went up there to help. They didn't even need me for a couple of days.
Starting point is 02:05:00 And when I went in, the guy said, yeah, all these patients we put on ventilators, about 80% plus are going to die. She wrote a book about it, Pandemic Nurse. We've known this, and yet they're still following this procedure. Why? Because of massive amounts of money that they get paid for using. The government, under the rules that Trump established and bragged about and berated General Motors for not producing enough of these things. Under those rules, they get paid a tremendous amount of money for putting somebody on the ventilator. So one person said, I'm a respiratory therapist. I've been doing this for 21 years. I wanted to show you our equipment room. First thing I want to say, does it look like there's a ventilator shortage? There's not. As a matter of fact, we're running less ventilators
Starting point is 02:05:42 now than we would normally run. And that's because people are just staying home. And they're not having elective surgery. Any patient that came in with a respiratory problem was labeled as COVID. And it doesn't matter if you have stage 4 lung cancer, if you've got pancreatitis, or you've got heart disease, liver failure, everything else. You come in with a breathing problem, you're labeled as COVID. We do a test, magnifying it a trillion times, you're labeled as COVID. We do a test, magnifying it by a trillion times, you're labeled as COVID. Why? Because they get a 20% discount thanks to Trump. Thanks to
Starting point is 02:06:11 Trump. And the HHS and CMS rules that were there. Who was running HHS? Oh, that's right. A former Eli Lilly CEO, former pharmaceutical executive was running. He said, I've never in my career seen bodies loaded onto a tractor trailer. It doesn't happen. I wonder if those were even bodies. I don't believe it, says the doctor. All of this stuff is fake. Well, we're going to take a break, and we're going to establish our connection with our guest. Sergey, thank you very much.
Starting point is 02:06:40 Good morning, David. Hope you had a happy Thanksgiving. I did. And that is an excellent. I liked what your band was doing. It looked like they have a lot of fun at live events. So hopefully you'll be hearing from Gerald. Hope so.
Starting point is 02:06:52 We're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back with our guest talking about what he's doing in terms of fighting for religious liberty for people in the military still being coerced to take this vaccine. Thank you. And now, The David Knight Show. Thank you. And now, the David Knight Show. All right, and we are still trying to contact with our guests. I'm going to continue on with the pharmaceutical stuff because that's what we're going to be talking about when he comes back. But, yeah, when we look at what happened with the ventilators, it truly is amazing, especially as it was Trump who invoked a special act,
Starting point is 02:09:19 the Defense Production Act, to compel General Motors to make more of these. Pro Publica reported how one of the companies that was set up to do these ventilators had already received $13.8 million five years earlier from HHS. How did they know? Because they had never used this type of thing, as these doctors have pointed out. This is not the protocol doing these invasive ventilators. They had other ventilators that were safer, more effective, and were typically more frequently used,
Starting point is 02:09:53 but they did this five years earlier. Then Trump compelled GM and other companies to begin mass producing a different ventilator under a government contract. So do you need me to go to break so that you can, okay, we had a wrong number and we've got the right number now. So we're going to, sorry about jumping back and forth here, but we're going to take a quick break and then we're going to contact with him.
Starting point is 02:10:19 We're already running a little bit late. Hopefully he's still there. We'll be right back. Thank you. you're listening to the david knight show okay all right now we do have now established contact our guest is davis yaance, and he is, as I said before, a Christian father, homeschooler, dad. He has provided legal guidance and expert criminal defense to military, to federal law enforcement, other patriots. He's a former prosecutor, a JAG, and number one rated defense counsel in the Air Force. He runs a focused legal practice to help people preserve their religious liberty. So I want to talk to him eventually in the interview about some other things that he's looking at right now. But we wanted to focus on what is happening in
Starting point is 02:11:56 the military. And Davis is focused on the Coast Guard. Thank you for joining us. Hey, thank you for the opportunity to come on the show. This is a really important topic. It is. It is. And we have been talking about this now for over a year and it is absolutely astounding. And I think it's even more astounding that even as Biden says the pandemic is over, he's still pushing this. Tell us a little bit about what the Coast Guard has done in terms of honoring religious exemptions. Tell us a little bit how they've treated that. Yeah, so honoring religious exemptions is not how I would describe
Starting point is 02:12:32 what the Coast Guard has done. You know, my background is active duty Air Force. I still serve as a lieutenant colonel in the Air Force Reserves, so I'm fighting this mandate personally, but one of the things that's happened in that fight is, you know, I became very interested in what the Coast Guard was doing early on, because one of the first things that we saw was not just that the Coast Guard was hostile to anyone seeking a religious accommodation for these mandates, but they actually created a template, a checklist for chaplains in the Coast Guard to use to try to manipulate conversations so that it would appear that a Coast Guard member didn't have a sincere religious belief. So as soon as we found out about that and got a copy of that very early on in this process,
Starting point is 02:13:19 a lot of us started paying much more attention to what the Coast Guard was doing and were very concerned about that. Is that checklist the types of things that we've seen where they say, well, do you use bare aspirin? Do you know that bare aspirin was used, that they did testing on fetal tissue with bare aspirin? Was it that type of thing, that checklist? It was, only it was worse. What it did is it gave the chaplains guidance. They said, hey, when someone comes in to talk to you about their religious faith, you should ask them about their political
Starting point is 02:13:51 positions first. And then when you write up your memo describing what happened in the interview, make sure you mention the fact that the military member wanted to talk about politics first, and that will give you a basis to deny or to say that their religious beliefs were not sincere or that this decision was politically motivated. So far worse. I mean, some of the other trick questions were there. We've seen that in all the services, but the Coast Guard went farther than that to start. Yeah, to say that this is all about politics, you just don't like Biden or something,
Starting point is 02:14:23 that's why you don't want to do this. So where is this right now? I mean, what is – and the Coast Guard is a little bit different than some of the others. It's not under the – is it not under the direct command right now of the Pentagon because they're not been activated or not at war or something like that? That's right. The Coast Guard is unique because they sort of move in between Department of Defense and Department of Homeland Security. So under different circumstances, depending on their activation status, the mission set, and all of that, they sort of move back and forth between the two. What are they doing to the people when they deny this?
Starting point is 02:15:01 Have they discharged Coast Guard members already? what kind of a discharge are they getting so they have they have started to discharge a few Coast Guard members they are getting a general discharge so administratively there's three types of discharge there's under other than honorable conditions there's the mid-level the general discharge and then there's an honorable discharge so So what you're seeing is the Coast Guard discharging its members with a general discharge, which does take away the GI Bill, takes away some veterans' preference points for most state, federal, even county jobs. Anybody that gives veterans preference points, you don't get those with the general discharge. So it's a significant hit to these military members, but they're also discharging people
Starting point is 02:15:48 who have 15, 16, 17, 18, 19 years of service without due process. So they're using a paper administrative discharge process. You can respond in writing to a letter, hey, we're going to discharge you. And if you don't get to 20 years, you lose your pension. The military has a sort of an all-or-nothing pension system that these guys fall under. So you either get to 20 years or you get nothing in retirement. That is just so cynically wrong. And that's the thing. All the military branches that we've seen, that type of thing is just horrific.
Starting point is 02:16:24 They take away the benefits right when they get right up to the cusp of retirement, or even if they're not right at 19 plus years, putting in a decade or something and then kicking them out for something like this. What type of argument are you making for religious liberty when you're pushing this? Are you saying that they're just not going through the legitimate process? They're just rubber stamping this and throwing people out? Is that where we are right now? What type of things have we seen anybody, let me just ask this, have we seen anybody successful in this or is it all just a rubber stamp, you're out of here?
Starting point is 02:16:55 So we have, and there's a distinction between the Coast Guard process and the other services. So in all of the other services, if you have six years or more of service, you're at least entitled to what they call an administrative separation board, which is a panel of three senior military officers that review the case, decide whether or not you've engaged in misconduct, and then make a determination whether you should continue to serve, if you should be separated, what the service characterization should be. What the Coast Guard has done is they have a unique provision in their regulations that say under unique circumstances, if it's convenient, and it's called a convenience of the government discharge, believe it, then they can deny that right to a board and they can just paper you out. Wow. So for the Coast Guard, there has been no bright spots. In all the other services, we have seen cases where individuals
Starting point is 02:17:47 have gone to that administrative separation board, the evidence has been presented, and the board has found that the order to receive these mRNA products was an unlawful order. And there's a couple of different reasons why that we could talk about, but they've done that. So the other services, absolutely, I've been involved in some of those cases. We have won those cases when we get that due process. That's not happening for the Coast Guard. I recall one case where it was the board that you're talking about, if you've been in for six years or so, that you get the review,
Starting point is 02:18:16 and it was three officers. And this particular officer said he was going to try it not on the basis of religious liberty, but on the basis that Korma Nadi was legally distinct and not available in the United States. And I'm sure you're, you're familiar with that argument. And he won, you know, all three officers said, that's right. You don't have to get it. It's not been legitimately, uh, they, they, they, they played this game for whatever their reasons. They said that it is technically the same, but it is legally distinct. Well, if it's legally distinct, then you can't kick me out for not taking it, was what he argued.
Starting point is 02:18:48 And he won with that. Have you used any of that, or has it strictly been focused on religious liberty? No, I have been involved in several boards where we have made that argument. So one of the first in the Navy was Lieutenant Billy Mosley's board. So I represented him, and that's the precise argument that we made. That federal law requires that, you know, prohibits. Congress made it clear in 1998, the military cannot mandate an experimental or emergency use medical product for any reason
Starting point is 02:19:19 without a very specific exception by the President of the United States. Here, there's no such exception that's been made. And what's available in the United States is not the FDA-approved product. And I'll miss that. It seems crazy. It seems nuanced. But the bottom line is Pfizer and Moderna have not produced yet the FDA-approved formula. And so the military can't FDA approved formula. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:19:46 And the military can't make it available. Yeah. There's a legal distinction. I mean, you know, they talk about using something that's off label. They have always in the past been very specific about what they approve. They even play these legal games about the difference between approval and authorization and all these kinds of, you know, technical issues that most people like, what are you talking about? But they are very specific about when they approve something, they approve it for a specific
Starting point is 02:20:11 use and, you know, the tests and all the rest of the stuff. So they just waived all that aside and said it's legally distinct. It was just amazing to see that. So that's great. You were involved on one of those. How are things breaking down before we get into the current status of what's going on with the Coast Guard? Again, we've seen that in the Navy and some of the other places. How is this breaking down across the different branches of service? Is there, other than the
Starting point is 02:20:34 Coast Guard, what about the regular ones, Army, Navy, Air Force, that type of thing? How is it looking? So there's, things are looking good on the religious freedom front when we talk about the Navy, the Air Force, and the Marine Corps. So there are federal courts that have issued injunctions that prevent those branches of the service from taking any adverse action against a military member who has submitted a religious accommodation, chaplain has found their beliefs sincere, all of those folks are protected. And actually just yesterday, the Sixth Circuit came out and affirmed the injunction for the Air Force because the DOD, DOJ appealed the injunction that was preventing the Air Force from taking adverse action. Just yesterday, the Sixth Circuit came out, they
Starting point is 02:21:21 affirmed the injunction and they said that injunction remains in place until we get through a trial on this issue. The Air Force is prohibited from discharging or taking adverse action against anyone based on that submitted this religious accommodation. And this is huge. Like, I can't emphasize enough how groundbreaking that is. I apologize if there's background noise here. I'm at the airport. Oh, that's okay. But this is such groundbreaking that a federal court is going to go so far as to say what the
Starting point is 02:21:53 military is doing is an absolute clear violation of the Constitution and federal law. That's just very, very rare for federal courts to do that because they're hesitant to get involved in what are seen as internal military matters. But it's huge. The Sixth Circuit opinion from yesterday is just very, very well done, groundbreaking in its analysis. And it just shows the Air Force from the beginning, as did all branches of service, but specifically that case addresses the Air Force, the Air Force had a plan to do blanket denials of religious accommodation requests, and that's just a direct violation of the religious freedom restoration act. Wow. And noticeably missing when you were talking about this was the Army.
Starting point is 02:22:35 What is the situation in the Army? So the Army had moved slower than the other branches in the rollout and enforcement of this mandate. So the issue with the Army is the Army has not moved as quickly. So the federal, it's taking longer to get a case in the proper stage to get an emergency injunction. That is in the works. There is a law firm that's working hard on that. And I think once that case is presented, they'll be in the same, I think the Army will be in the same situation as the other branches of the service, because the law is same and the violations by the Army are the same. That's good to know. What is your sense? I mean, it's amazing as we see Biden saying, hey, the emergency is over, but you're still going to get kicked out
Starting point is 02:23:22 of your career if you don't take this. Is there any sense that they're going to back off of this relentless pursuit of this? There's not yet. And it's one of the things that we talk about a lot. I talk about this a lot with clients that I speak with, other individuals that I speak with. What is the off-ramp for the Department of Defense? Why do they continue to do this, especially in light of other things that are going on? You know, we have, we have a huge deficit in the number of pilots we need. We have a huge pilot shortage in the Air Force. The Army can't meet their recruiting goals. And, and we're here and practically, medically, scientifically, the mandate does not make sense anymore. And yet we're continuing to push it down.
Starting point is 02:24:08 So I always ask the question, what is the off ramp for the Department of Defense? Because the problem is, because of this policy, you've already had thousands of military members who have left or have been kicked out. And so there's going to be a whole process. It's going to take years to make some of those people whole once this is resolved. So I don't see a good offering for them yet. The politics are not good as far as that goes. That is just amazing for us to look at how relentless and persistent they are on all this stuff. Before we run out of time, you are involved in a lot of religious liberty issues, not just the military.
Starting point is 02:24:46 I mean, that's your specialty, and it's a special area of law, and you're in the military. But you're also focused on business and on Christians in general undergoing religious liberty attacks. So talk to us a little bit about some of the things that you're looking at that you've been involved with your practice in terms of, it says you're a former pastor, and so you've taken on a lot of cases that involve religious liberty. Tell us a little bit about the other things that you've been looking at and the types of attacks that have been coming. Yeah, you know, one of the things we have to be wise about as Christians, and I advise
Starting point is 02:25:24 several different nonprofit organizations and other things, is how will the federal government use tax-exempt status and other things to limit what folks say? So, you know, during the COVID pandemic, we had this issue. To me, as a pastor, it became very clear, you know, the state trying to tell people to wear a mask in a worship service, for example, is getting involved in the regulation of worship, right? Like, to think that the government can tell us what we can or can't wear when we're worshiping our God is a difficult thing. So we've seen a lot of the fallout from that has been what will the government do in the future? So I see a lot of critical issues.
Starting point is 02:26:07 I think a lot of businesses are moving towards very clear statements of faith, very clear things they're doing as churches have had to do in the past. And I think we really need to monitor just this week we're dealing with the Respect for Marriage Act. And I have grave concerns. It passed the Senate yesterday without clear amendments that will protect religious liberty. So I think there is a lot, and I think there's a continued battle. Churches, Christian businesses are going to see disagreements over what you can do. One of the things I'm concerned about is that I practice law in Pennsylvania. I'm licensed by the State Bar of Pennsylvania, and our state bar has tried to implement an ethics rule, which would make it a,
Starting point is 02:26:49 an offense and ethics violation for an attorney to say something that could be construed as critical of those that are non-binary or critical of those that are transitioning or otherwise to seem, you know, if it can be interpreted as harassment or not accepting their rights and privileges, us being fought out in the courts, we'll see. But all of those things are out there. So I think this is a time where COVID woke a lot of folks up, but we need to be aware and focusing on these issues because if we don't, we'll be in a situation where we don't have a space to speak out without serious repercussions and persecution. That's right. Yeah, I think there's a reason why the First Amendment contains freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and freedom of religion, because they're all connected together. And we're going to see that ramping up.
Starting point is 02:27:37 You know, you're not going to have—Christians are not going to be the ones who are going to be able to speak freely. We will have to conform to their speech rules and to their religion, I think is what we see coming. You know, we talked about the Respect for Marriage Act and the fact that it passed. I thought it was very telling how many Republicans moved in on that. And the fact that they had two amendments, one of them could have been passed with just a simple majority. They really didn't focus on that. Instead, they focused more on the one that needed more than 60 votes. And so it was guaranteed that that was not going to pass. It just seemed to me like there was a lot of virtue signaling that was happening there.
Starting point is 02:28:11 They weren't really serious about protecting those concerns. And let me ask you, your concerns, they did say, well, you're not going to, for now, have any say-so with a nonprofit or churches in terms of telling them what they can and cannot do. But they left the door wide open for private businesses, is that correct? And individuals? That's my reading of it. As I look at the current language, I don't see protections there for private businesses and individuals. That's right. Yeah, so that's going to have to be fought out in the court in terms of first amendment versus, um, uh, the types of things that are going to come. And we've seen this for the longest time with it. It's just amazing to me to see that the, um, Baker in Colorado masterpiece bakery, he wanted the Supreme court and he comes back and they hit him again,
Starting point is 02:28:58 you know, with another one of the alphabets from the LGBT at first, it was like a L or G. And then they came back and said, all right, now you've got to fight us over the same issue with a T. So it's just they're relentless. They really will not stop. And so we have to be relentless in the same way in terms of constantly defending things. Do you have, Davis, do you have a website that people can get in touch with you? Because I have a lot of listeners who are in the military.
Starting point is 02:29:25 I do. It's themilitarycouncil.com, themilitarycouncil.com. And you can follow, folks can follow me on Twitter, at Davis Yance. But that militarycouncil.com is a great place to get a hold of me. Okay, great. That's good to know. I know a lot of people are going to have questions about that.
Starting point is 02:29:42 Other than the Respect for Marriage Act and other issues that are on the way, what else do you see happening? I know certainly it's brought these issues to the forefront. For the longest time, you know, we've looked at what is the interplay for Christians between respect for government authority and then drawing the line when they encroach on our freedom of religion. And let me know if you need to go. I know that you're doing this from the airport, so I don't know what time you're going to. No, I still have time. We're okay. Okay, good. But, you know, when we look at this, I've talked many times to Matt Trujillo about interposition
Starting point is 02:30:21 and what is legitimate authority. It's a very difficult thing for Christians to understand that. And for the longest time, we would hear, well, whatever the government tells you to do, even if they tell you to put a propeller on your head and spin it, you got to do it unless they tell you something that impinges on your religious worship. And yet we saw throughout 2020 that people folded on that in many different ways. We had a lot of pastors who didn't, some who went to jail in Canada, that type of thing. A lot of fines that were out there,
Starting point is 02:30:50 they got rolled back. Were you involved in representing any churches that got hit with fines and other things like that? Fortunately, I wasn't. In Pennsylvania, the guidance was always sort of, it was very detailed and very precise and prevented a lot of things. And then whenever we pushed back, the governor folded very quickly and just said, oh, that was just a suggestion. That was just a suggestion. It was just a probe. He was just probing to see what he could get away with. Exactly. We felt that. So, man, there's so much I could say about those issues that you brought up.
Starting point is 02:31:28 I think first and foremost what we need to be doing as Christians is recognizing the spiritual battle that's here. You know, I just firmly believe we're, in everything we do, we're either worshiping God or we're worshiping man. Yeah. we're worshiping man. And I think part of the zeal with which some are coming off church, we see this just ramping up of this ideology. It's a spiritual ideology. It's the spirit of the age. It's worship of man. And we know, look, atheism, secular humanism, those are religions that always lead to tyranny. Just look at history. That's what you see. So what we have to do as Christians is we have to read the entire Bible, and we have to understand how there is a system of government, there are principles of government that the Bible teaches us that we can see, and we need to look
Starting point is 02:32:18 at our own history as a nation. You know, the Black Robe Regiment, the Presbyterian ministers taught, you know, the doctrine of the lesser magistrate. They taught how to speak truth to government and when it was biblical, when it was appropriate to resist tyranny. And it wasn't just about religious freedom or religious worship. It was about other areas of life where they believed strongly that there's spheres of authority, and the state was invading the spheres of authority of the individual, of the family. And so I just think those principles are really important, but we have to wake up to the spiritual battle that's going on.
Starting point is 02:32:55 We can't, you know, we can't buy into the myth of neutrality. We can't be meek, and we certainly shouldn't take, you know, Romans 13 out of the context of the rest of Scripture. I agree. Absolutely. Yeah, I've talked to many times to Matt Trujillo about his book, The Doctrine of the Lesser Magistrate, and I know James Coates, one of the pastors who went to jail up in Canada, said, I wish I'd studied more history, and I wish I'd especially studied more church
Starting point is 02:33:19 history to really understand what this is. But, you know, he became history in terms of living it out, and he had a very quick learning experience, and he got himself up to speed to understand exactly what was involved in it. And you're right, it is a spiritual battle, and we need to understand where this is coming from. But we also need to understand, as you pointed out, that if we're going to go into a secular, humanistic, pagan society,
Starting point is 02:33:44 it's going to be tyranny. It's going to be survival of the strongest against the weak. We see that in the abortion issue, don't we? We absolutely do. We absolutely do. And you can just draw a line. Darwin gave popular society an excuse to organize things without God, right? Without a creator.
Starting point is 02:34:05 That's right. And then we see, you know, the rise of communism and that just an unprecedented level of tyranny that comes right from that idea of atheism, secular humanism, trying to separate religion from the state. But we do. We need to be very aware of that history. And I think, as you said, you're a former pastor, and is that correct, former pastor, or you're still doing some? Yeah, I served as a pastor elder for a local church.
Starting point is 02:34:33 I was called to do that, and yeah. That's good. Yeah, that gives you the perspective to do this. And I think that the church has gotten so weak. I just talked yesterday about how in the UK they had some wacko that was talking about how Jesus was a transgender and he was both male and female and all the rest of this kind of stuff. They don't have any foundation. They don't have any reference that they can base their church on. And now you see that not even half of the people in the UK say that they're Christian.
Starting point is 02:35:08 Most people will say, make a profession or a faith or something like that, even if they don't really have an involvement in it, but they're not even talking about it anymore. It's probably a tiny fraction of, you know, maybe 5% of people actually practice that. That is why it's collapsing. And I think that is really the key thing that is going to have to be there for us to reclaim the foundations of our country, especially thinking back to this last week and Thanksgiving.
Starting point is 02:35:35 We have people who are telling us that America was not founded for religious liberty. I mean, nothing could be further from the truth, right? That's right. Yeah, that rewriting of history is so dangerous, and we do, we have to look internally to the Church, we have to look at our churches and we have to ask the question, you know, what are we doing? You know, I see, again, I don't want to be offensive here, but I see many churches use the excuse of being quote-unquote gospel-centered as a way to avoid controversy, right? So being gospel-centered is great. That's the point.
Starting point is 02:36:13 But when you're using that terminology to buy into the myth of neutrality, to try to not be offensive, right? To say, oh, we're just going to talk about the Bible. We're not going to talk about these social issues. I don't know what Bible you're reading then, first of all, but one of my biggest concerns is we as Christians, when we're addressing issues, I've seen this in churches where we're addressing abortion and we spend minutes apologizing for our stance and talking about helping people in exceptions and things like that. We understand that without talking about the principle. And we do the same thing when we talk about marriage, when we talk about human sexuality. The thing is if we're apologizing to the world for what the Bible says rather than recognizing, no, God has
Starting point is 02:37:02 given us his word to bless us. This is how we have blessing and human flourishing, even in a fallen world, is following biblical principles. And we're not sharing that message. So, you know, if the church isn't sharing biblical truth and sharing how it's a blessing, and it's what leads to true joy in this earth, what would we expect society's reaction to be? I agree. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 02:37:24 And we have to be careful that we don't fall off on the other side. We don't want to become totally political. We've seen the left do that, you know, where they become simply about feeding the hungry and the poor and clothing them and then pushing the gospel completely away. So there has to be a balance there. But for the people who just want to retreat into a kind of pietism, a kind of monastic life, we're not called to that either. You know, we're not called to that either.
Starting point is 02:37:47 We're not told to say, well, I see the problem. They've thrown you in prison, but I hope you have a nice day. That's not what we're called to do. We're also called to meet people's real physical needs, and that was one of the strengths of the early church, just living life as Christ would in terms of helping people to the extent that we can. I think that's a key thing that is missing in the churches. And I think even the insular pietism can be just having like a supper club type of thing. I mean, it can be just that simple thing where you have this little insular club and you're
Starting point is 02:38:19 not involved in what's going on around you. I've seen that type of approach in my life in some churches that I've been involved in as well, where they just focus on the pietism. They don't even want to acknowledge that there's anything out there in the real world that they could help somebody with, where they could stand in the gap. I think this last couple of years has really kind of brought that to the forefront. I think God has prepared this kind of test for us to wake us up. What do you think?
Starting point is 02:38:46 I think that's absolutely true. I think, and I hope, and I pray that it does, because we just, we see clear examples of government overreach. We see so many just clear examples of what happens if the church isn't sharing the whole truth of God's Word and isn't, you know, isn't doing that well. And if we are retreating into pietism, I mean's Word and isn't doing that well. And if we are retreating into pietism, I love that you use that word. That's a word that I've used in a warning I've given to churches I've spoken to, is what are we doing? Where is the application outside of the four walls of this building?
Starting point is 02:39:18 Because we can have good theology, but if we're not applying it for all of life, if it's not all of Scripture for all of life, then we tend to fall into that populism. I agree. Yeah, you mentioned down here you also get involved in some homeschooling cases, you're a homeschooling father. When we look at education, I think that is so fundamental, and that was one of the places where the Church did have a very active role once upon a time, and then it became so much about the education itself, and they pushed the Christianity off. They said, well, you know, education, the government could do a better job of this than we could, because they didn't understand what was unique that they had to offer people.
Starting point is 02:39:54 What type of homeschool challenges are you seeing now? You know, I think that this battle is coming on the future. There are a lot of states with very good laws. One of the first things I did after I left active duty, came back to Pennsylvania. I was homeschooled in Pennsylvania. My parents did it when it wasn't really a thing. They were involved with the Homeschool Legal Defense Association early on, suing Pennsylvania school districts. My parents were pioneers in that regard, along with the HSLBA. So one of the things I came back in and did when I got back
Starting point is 02:40:26 is I helped get legislation passed in Pennsylvania, which created some additional protections and some additional good rules in place. But I think that we have to continue to do is we have to understand that education is so critical. If we just give it and turn that over to the state, we're allowing a state that is not embracing any Christian principles anymore, any biblical principles anymore, that is atheist, secular humanist,
Starting point is 02:40:54 we're allowing that indoctrination to occur. So we need to be very, very wary because there are constantly, you know, the spirit of the age, those that are part of the religion of secular humanism, they recognize very, very clearly the power of education. This has been a decades-long effort to say things like, we hear politicians say this, we hear so-called experts say this, you know, well, you know, you wouldn't tell your doctor how to do a heart surgery.
Starting point is 02:41:21 Why are you telling your teacher how to educate your kid? You know, that's just shocking, but we've seen it. You know, the church and families have ceded so much of what we should be primarily concerned with to the state because it just seems simpler. It seemed easier. It seemed benign. And so we have to, have to be ready for that. But every time we hear political leader or anyone else say, well, you know, the teachers are the expert, the school district's the expert, you know, why are parents involved in this? That's just, I mean, that's shocking. We should be, that should be something that chills us to the bone. Yes, it is.
Starting point is 02:41:54 As parents, as families, as churches, that is absurd. These are our children. That's right. And I think it gets back to the idea of what is education. Education is not just a technical education. You know, just getting kids out who can read and write proficiently and do math, that is a technical education essentially. But real education has to involve values, and it is fundamentally religious. And that's why it is so dangerous to turn over. Because somebody's worldview, somebody's religion is going to be taught. The question is who is going to be teaching these fundamental issues to your children. I think that's the key issue that we need to wake up to. And I think that has been, you know, we, as I said,
Starting point is 02:42:33 we've gone through some difficult things in this last couple of years. But God has used that, I think, to open our eyes to what is happening. People who saw what their schools were actually doing, because I've had this conversation with many people over the years about homeschooling versus government schooling. And you could point to them and you could say, well, this is what is being coming out of Washington. This is what the state curriculum is. As a matter of fact, we got this situation.
Starting point is 02:42:57 Look what happened in your school. Oh, well, that's different. And my teacher that I, the ones teaching my, they don't do that kind of stuff. Well, during the lockdown, people could see, yeah, it was actually happening in their kids' classroom. And I think that was a real blessing, a silver lining around that cloud for people to be able to see that. And I think that's why you're seeing the pushback in all these different school boards. People are looking at that, but I think they're still going in the wrong direction.
Starting point is 02:43:23 I think Christians need to understand that religion is fundamental to education. It's not a side thing, and somebody's religion is going to be taught. I think that's the key thing. As you point out, people have turned over and ceded religious authority, parental authority, to the government in so many different ways, haven't they? Absolutely right. The idea that the myth of neutrality is so dangerous in the american church and the church worldwide you know the idea that that education can be done
Starting point is 02:43:52 without a religious perspective you know again that goes back to the basic principle in everything we do we're either we're either following and worshiping god or we're following and worship man there's no there's no dividing line there, and so we're either acknowledging our creator God or we're not and we're elevating the creation. And that's what we see. That's what our education system does. When we take God, when we take prayer, when we take religious faith, we try to take it out of school. What we're doing is we're teaching kids to be anti-religious. We're teaching kids. There's something wrong with that. There's something bad about it just in general. And then we're doing is we're teaching kids to be anti-religious. We're teaching kids there's something wrong with that. There's something bad about it just in general.
Starting point is 02:44:28 And then we're replacing it with another set of moral values, moral values that we see parents now see we're replacing it with it are a, a woke agenda or a, you know, a transgender identity agenda, but all, all of it elevates man, right. As the ultimate, as the ultimate being and ignores our creator God. That's right. Yeah. Lovers of self, focused on themselves so much. I always think of the poster child for that would be Sam Britton, who is so focused on his wardrobe and all the rest of this stuff.
Starting point is 02:44:58 It's like, how can he look after any nuclear waste? I just don't understand that at all. But, you know, that's all political political and it's about pushing a political agenda you know his the way he looks is exactly the point as to why the biden administration picked him for that uh but just to recap is what is happening with the military again the army is kind of lagging in terms of some of the others so it hasn't got to the point uh with that but in the other branches of directly in the military, there has kind of been put on pause. Coast Guard is a completely different thing in terms of, you know, just running this script through. Is that an accurate summary of where they're on the branches of the military? It is. It's absolutely where we're at. So for the Navy, for the Marines, for the Air Force,
Starting point is 02:45:44 if you file the religious accommodation, you're protected. For now, it's on pause. It will take two or three years to get through federal litigation on that. So folks have some protection. It's still destroying careers. It's still pushing people into retirement. I'm hoping to retire in December myself because of all this. There's no place for me to serve anymore.
Starting point is 02:46:06 And hurting recruitment as well. I mean, not only are they pushing people out, but they're hurting recruitment. It's just crippling the services. It's just a horrific thing that is happening. Let me ask you one other thing. When it comes to the religious exemptions, are they just not really paying any attention to them?
Starting point is 02:46:23 I know it's very deliberate in the Coast Guard to say, you know, hey, these are the talking points, now we can trap them. Are any of them seriously considering the arguments? And if so, are there some arguments that seem to be prevailing better than others? You know, some people said we got objections because they're tested on aborted babies, or, you know, we have objections about perhaps modifying our body in ways that we don't know or different things like that. Have you seen any consideration of the arguments, and are there any arguments that are better or worse than others? I think those two are the primary ones.
Starting point is 02:46:57 Those are the most common ones, and I think those are the important ones to make. I think it's easy to see how they're consistent with biblical teaching and why a person of faith could have that. But the reality is the military has chosen to ignore them. The military's position on this from the beginning was, you know, we're going to do this and we don't care. We don't care about federal law. We don't care about the Constitution.
Starting point is 02:47:20 We don't care about the Religious Freedom Restoration Act. And it didn't get a lot of publicity and a lot of people missed it. But when the federal government was arguing in the Sixth Circuit case, the Air Force case, the attorney for the Department of Justice who admitted on the record as he's making an argument, well, you know, we didn't, we don't think we have to comply with the Religious Freedom Restoration Act unless we're sued. And then we have to worry about it. I mean, he literally said, well, there's not, it's that act isn't really designed to do that. It's designed to give people a way to sue the government, but it's not, it doesn't prevent us from doing
Starting point is 02:47:55 anything, which is absolutely not true. That's absolutely not the point. The Religious Freedom Restoration Act is why Congress passed it, but it was just astonishing to have an attorney admit, well, we don't think we have to follow it unless we're sued. That's one of the things, when we look at Freedom of Information Act requests, that's one of the things that's always surprised me is that, for the most part, they will deny anything, giving you any of that, deny complying with it. You have to sue them for it. I mean, it's just the strangest thing that they just feel compelled
Starting point is 02:48:25 to disobey these laws unless you get a court to compel them to do that. I mean, I've seen that over and over again. Let me ask you before you go, if you still have time, are you familiar at all with the kind of precedents that were set in terms of the anthrax vaccines? Because I know that was a big fight, you know, what, 15 years ago, 20 years ago? Yeah, absolutely. Very aware of that precedent. And we've used it. The Lieutenant Mosley's case where we showed that this was an unlawful order, we presented that information to these military officers, and it really does have an impact. So what happened with the anthrax case, 1998, Congress passes a law that says military, you cannot experiment on military members. You cannot force military members to receive an experimental or emergency use product. That was passed in 1998.
Starting point is 02:49:16 It took all the way until 2001 for the federal government to mandate an emergency use authorization experimental anthrax vaccine on the military. And two things fell out of that. One, about 35,000 military members died or suffered from neurological diseases essentially akin to Luget's disease in their 20s. I mean, we had 22-year-olds that died. I didn't realize it was that many people. That's amazing. Did we just lose him?
Starting point is 02:49:49 Oh, okay. We just lost our connection to him. Is it trying to be established? Go ahead and pull that off. We just lost our establishment to him. I just heard it go beep and we lost the connection there. It might be. We're going to try to establish that. Do you need me to stop and go to,
Starting point is 02:50:05 are we back? Can you hear me, Davis? I'm back. Okay, good. Okay, good. Yeah, we got disconnected there. I was amazed at how many people died. I didn't realize it was that large. And a lot of people had health issues with it. I didn't realize it was that big, but go ahead and tell us a little bit more about that particular case. Yeah. So what happened is then lawsuits were filed based on this federal law, based on issues with the FDA approval of the anthrax vaccine. And what happened in 2004 is federal courts universally said, military, you have to stop. What you're doing is illegal.
Starting point is 02:50:39 You can't do this. And once the federal courts did that, the military backed down. Yeah. I know there was, I know there was a lawyer who was involved in that, who, uh, came back to, uh, to fight with us. Have you been involved? I can't remember his name. Uh, have you, uh, yes, I've been, been very involved.
Starting point is 02:51:00 I, he was working on bringing a big case that has not had success in that case yet using similar issues here. But actually, some of my clients were involved in that litigation as well. So he's working hard. There are several others that are doing good work attacking similar issues. It's just like it was back in 2004. It remains difficult to get federal courts to be willing to intervene in any sort of military decision-making. So it's been a challenge. It's just astounding to me to see the utter contempt from politicians for the military. They have all the lip service about, oh, yeah, we thank you for your service and all the rest of the stuff.
Starting point is 02:51:39 And then they pull this kind of stuff, using them as guinea pigs and relentless in terms uh, you know, relentless in terms of pushing this stuff. It truly is amazing to see this, but I really do thank you for what you're doing. Uh, thank you for your service, your service to the country and supporting the constitution and your service for supporting those who are in the military and this very important time. Uh, we're talking to Davis Yance. And again, Davis, give us your Twitter account and how people can find you. My Twitter account is at Davis Yance on Twitter. My website is themilitarycouncil.com, themilitarycouncil.com. Thank you very much. It's so great to talk to you. And I'm so happy that you're doing this and standing in the gap. It's exactly what this country needs for everybody.
Starting point is 02:52:27 I mean, so many people in so many different walks of life and other federal employees have had this pushed on them. But it's been ruthless, even worse for the military than it has for many of the others who have pushed back against this. And in some areas, they've already pushed this back. But the military just continues to do this. Thank you very much, Davis. Great talking to you. Hey, thank you so much for covering this and being on this and just appreciate prayers as we continue to fight.
Starting point is 02:52:54 That is the most important thing. They cannot chain our prayers. Thank you so much, Davis. Appreciate it. All right, folks, we're going to take a quick break and we will be right back. ¶¶ Thank you. Analyzing the globalist's next move. And now, The David Knight Show. All right, and we've got about 12 minutes left. So I want to talk a little bit about the war between Apple and Musk.
Starting point is 02:54:33 I think it's going to be. We talked earlier in the program about how Tim Cook, I believe, has been there for subversive purposes, working for uh, from the time he took the helm at, uh, Apple and, um, Babylon B has, has it on the spot again.
Starting point is 02:54:51 Tim Cook says he's ready to pull Twitter from the app store. Once president, she gives the order. That's pretty much what's going on. That, uh, taps into the Twitter war as well as, uh,
Starting point is 02:55:03 Tim Apple, uh, supporting president. She, uh, Tim Apple, uh, supporting president. She in terms of stopping, um, you know, people being able to communicate with each other on the airdrop issue. I never make a business decision without first consulting the great and magnificent president. She blessings upon his name said Tim Cook. And it's going to the Babylon beat.
Starting point is 02:55:24 Um, and I will resign myself to his divine will. If he gives the order, Twitter will be gone from the app store. Cook emphasized, however, that the popular Chinese spy and child exploitation app, TikTok, will always have a platform in the app store. TikTok is an essential tool for advancing Chinese interests around the world and for protecting my cheap slave labor in the country, and it will never be removed. At publishing time,
Starting point is 02:55:53 Google claimed that they were not beholden to China in any way, but they would do whatever Apple did. But that is perfect to point out the hypocrisies they did between they will never talk about taking TikTok off. Oh, but we'll take off Twitter. And it is interesting to see how all the knives come out if somebody makes a move on that. And again, it doesn't, I just want to emphasize to people, it doesn't make Musk a good guy if he does something that's good and if the bad guys come after him.
Starting point is 02:56:23 He's got his own agenda. This is a guy who still has, as his profile picture, a costume where he's got Baphomet on his chest. This is a guy who has pushed transhumanism. This is a guy who comes from the technocratic elite who tried to overthrow democracy, his grandfather did, got kicked out of China. So, not China, out of Canada, and that's why they were in South Africa. So this is not somebody that we should, you know,
Starting point is 02:56:50 get personally invest any personal faith and trust into. Again, we take these things issue by issue. We support issues, not politicians, not parties, not individuals. Apple threatens to ban Twitter.
Starting point is 02:57:07 It won't say why, according to Musk. This began with a New York Times op-ed piece from the guy who was a woke censor for them, Yole Roth. And I even hate using that term, woke. I really hate using that term. These people are not awake in any sense to any of this stuff. They're zombies. They're not, call it zombie woke.
Starting point is 02:57:28 It's just, anyway. Failure to adhere, he said, to Apple and Google's guidelines would be catastrophic, risking Twitter's expulsion from their app stores and making it more difficult for billions of potential users to get Twitter's services. This gives Apple and Google enormous power to shape the decisions that Twitter makes, said Roth. He said, as I departed the company, the calls from the app review teams had already begun. Well, Elon Musk confirmed the rumors that Apple is threatening to pull Twitter off of its app store and refuses to say why.
Starting point is 02:58:07 And it is a bigger issue, of course, with Apple, because they have that kind of control of all the apps have to go through their store. As we pointed out yesterday, as my son was saying, one of the ways that Musk could do with this, if Google were to come after him for Android, he could set up a place where people could download his app and do other things like that. But for Apple, it's got to go through them. So he's putting out his polls.
Starting point is 02:58:37 But as another indicator, Phil Schiller, who is the head of the Apple store, the app store, just deactivated his Twitter account. We appear to now know how Apple's app store chief feels about Twitter, since he just deleted his own personal app. Musk replied to a conservative commentator who said, if Apple and Google boot Twitter from their app stores, Elon Musk should produce his own smartphone. Half the country would happily ditch the biased, snooping iPhone and Android.
Starting point is 02:59:12 The man builds rockets to Mars. A silly little smartphone should be easy, right? Well, there's a lot of problems with that. Yeah, they're going to be snooping, and they are snooping all the time. They are the big brother device, and they have the zombies line up to buy it. The NSA mocked and laughed about that. Um, I don't know that he actually builds rockets to Mars. Um, but, um, that is a kind of vaporware at the moment, but must said, I certainly hope
Starting point is 02:59:42 it doesn't come to that, but yes, if there is no other choice, I will make an alternative phone. And again, just as we were talking about, he doesn't necessarily, you know, it would cut him off from Apple, but it wouldn't cut him off if you wanted to set up a different way to distribute the app for people who are Android users. And in the same way, there's a lot of phones that are out there right now that are alternative phones. He wouldn't have to build it from scratch. He could just buy the company.
Starting point is 03:00:06 You know, those companies would be a lot cheaper than Twitter. And he could take one of these alt phones and he could start mass producing it. He could popularize it. Uh, there's a lot of different ways that he could do it. Um,
Starting point is 03:00:17 but, uh, he tweeted out, he said, I'm talking about Apple. He says, do they hate free speech in America? Well, you know, we did establish that.
Starting point is 03:00:28 Yes, Apple and Tim Cook, Tim Apple, as Trump says. Tim Apple does, in fact, hate free speech and he hates free press. We know that. And I know that from personal experience. This makes no sense, said MSNBC's Stephanie Rule. She said, why are you attacking them? You know, why are you protesting a private company like Gap or Whole Foods? It does not equate to hating free speech.
Starting point is 03:00:57 Well, the difference is, is that Gap and Whole Foods, this is a non sequsequitur, her argument, MSNBC's Stephanie Rule, because this is the digital public square. Musk has said that, same thing that Jack Dorsey said. Twitter is the digital public square. And so this is something that is different. This is also monopolistic behavior by Apple and by Google. That should not be tolerated by anybody, but it is tolerated by politicians. They're in their pockets, and they have a symbiotic relationship
Starting point is 03:01:35 with these technocratic dictators. But it is monopolistic. It is ESG type of behavior, pushing a government mandate on this. But no, this is nothing at all like arranging, you know, attacking the Gap or Whole Foods. They don't come after our God-given rights. If government is not going to do anything about it, other people need to. And, you know, you always hear the argument, well, you don't like how things are. You set up your own free speech platform.
Starting point is 03:02:11 The few people able to do that was Andrew Torba with Gab. They worked very hard to deplatform him everywhere. And even financially deplatforming him. And so they're trying to do the same thing to the world's richest man. Oh, well, we'll just kick him out of everywhere. So he's also gone on the offense. He accused Apple of a secret 30% tax on purchases. He said the company's fees are 10 times higher than what they should be.
Starting point is 03:02:43 He's right about that. He says it's like having a 30% tax on the Internet. That is exactly what is going on with them. So, yeah, he's identified himself as the chief twit, but we should never lose sight of the fact of where this guy wants to go, and it's not just to Mars. He's embraced transhumanism and all the rest of the stuff. One thing that I saw that I thought was interesting and troubling,
Starting point is 03:03:10 and the back and forth as people were supporting him and talking about how Apple weaponized their control, not just for financial purposes, but also to ingratiate themselves and to partner with the government. Elbrey, if you pronounce it that way, L-B-R-Y, they are what is based on, Odyssey is based on that. Odyssey is the video platform of that. And I like Odyssey.
Starting point is 03:03:35 And it's got some good features in terms of the alternate video sites. I use BitChute. That's where I have the most views and most followers, but also on Odyssey. One of the things I like about Odyssey is, and I go to a lot of trouble because it's a long program, to give you an outline after it's finished and to even give you a time code. And on Odyssey, you can actually click on that time code and it'll take you to that spot in the video. So I try to do that to give people an index into the show where to find things. And that only happens on Odyssey. And they have supported free speech, been very supportive of us.
Starting point is 03:04:12 But they said Apple demanded that our apps filter some search terms from being returned. And if we did not filter the terms, our apps would not be allowed in the store. So they muscled them on this, which is sad because if you're going to eliminate certain search terms, and that could be a topic, it could be a person, then that's really the fundamental issue. And that's the fundamental issue that I have with Musk. Even though he says it's a digital public square. He says freedom of speech, but not freedom of reach. Well, that's not free speech. And if you have an internet
Starting point is 03:04:52 or a platform that is being coerced into hiding ideas and hiding people, that's a very bad situation. So I was sad to see that they have been co-opted in that as well. That explains a few things, I guess, for me. Shadow being everywhere. I'm one of the people that they're trying to hide everywhere, and the ideas that I have, they don't want you to hear. But thank you for listening. I appreciate your support.
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