The David Knight Show - 31Aug23 Trump Says Do NOT Comply — Now He Tells Us? Tucker/Orban/Voight Say He'll Save the World or Civil War

Episode Date: August 31, 2023

OUTLINE of today's show with TIMECODESWhat "Glitch" McConnell's episode tells you about the attitudes of those in power in DC (2:07)Joe Biggs sentenced today. What about Paul Whelan, held by Russians ...since Trump was President in 2018. Neither Trump nor Biden have done anything to negotiate a release so RT does a video showing him in prison (WATCH) (4:42)Italian Prime Minister Georgia Maloni completely reverses herself on border and the key issues she ran on. Sound familiar? (16:26)Church of England divorces GodThe pagan licentious "church" where "priests" decide what they will and will not follow. This is why western civilization is in free-fall. The Kingdom of God is NOT a democracy (22:41)DoJ gets conviction against abortion protestors who exposed possible murder. They face up to 11 years and $350,000 fine (31:45)Cops steal money from orphans (41:44)Tucker & Orban say Trump is the only way to avoid World War 3. Let's look at this absurd lie (47:49)A look at Heritage Foundation's Trump plan for taking out the Deep State. Did you really think conservatives there care about the Constitution and limited government? (59:52) "Do Not Comply" — Trump Pretends He Didn't Comply with Fauci in 2020No Democrat could've gotten away with what Trump did to the country in 2020. Now he reinvents himself and conservative media tries to flush what he did down the memory hole. So, let's look at how he did EVERYTHING he now pretends to oppose and even ran on it in 2020. His 2020 campaign ran a commercial with Fauci bragging about how COMPLIANT Trump had been to Fauci's orders. (1:15:42)China's Commercial Real Estate bubble is bursting BIG TIME. Will it cause a global recession or war? (1:25:35)The "Don't Tread on Me" Gadsen Flag kid is back in class as the school gives up. But one of the most fascinating things about this episode is the school itself and the curriculum. What does it tell us about education today? (1:40:13)INTERVIEW - Dangerous Precedents of RICO Indictment Davis Younts, YountsLaw.com, joins to talk aboutRICO and other perversions of the rule of lawvital importance of reclaiming trial by jury and jury nullificationhow to best protect your family from escalating attacks on parental rights(2:00:00)WATCH: commercial I did from 15 years ago about Parental Rights - "Self-Evident" (2:54:11) Find out more about the show and where you can watch it at TheDavidKnightShow.comIf you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-showOr you can send a donation throughMail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @DavidKnightShow@protonmail.comCash App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Money is only what YOU hold: Go to DavidKnight.gold for great deals on physical gold/silverFor 10% off Gerald Celente's prescient Trends Journal, go to TrendsJournal.com and enter the code KNIGHTBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.

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Starting point is 00:01:25 You're listening to The David Knight Show. As the clock strikes 13, it's Thursday, the 31st of August, Year of Our Lord 2023. Well, today there's been a lot of talk about how this is a civil war that is developing. We've got John Voight saying that. We have Tucker Carlson now repeating Alex Jones are going to assassinate Trump. We have Tucker Carlson going to Hungary and Viktor Orban saying, Trump is the only one who can save us from world war. Or is it the other way around?
Starting point is 00:02:15 Did he go to war with the world as a globalist fifth column in 2020? And of course today, I don't know if it's going to happen during the program or afterwards, Joe Biggs is going to be sentenced, perhaps to a life sentence for his support of Trump. Is this going to happen to all of us? Well, it ain't going to happen to me,
Starting point is 00:02:43 but it may happen to America. We'll be right back. Is this going to happen to all of us? Well, it ain't going to happen to me, but it may happen to America. We'll be right back. Yeah, they may put me in prison, but it won't be for supporting Trump. That's for sure. Let's begin with some news. And, of course, the other big news that happened was some people calling it Glitch McConnell. He froze again for about 30 seconds.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Had another one of these issues. Look, I'm not saying this to make fun of his old age. Old age, illness, and death are coming for us all but this empire this american empire is now looking like a remake of bernie a weekend at bernie's right we got these these people being propped up like mitch mcconnell diane fe, Fetterman. And a lot of these people are there not because they see themselves as servants of the public, there to do a very important job. They don't see themselves as that. We should not see them as that either. They're there for themselves.
Starting point is 00:04:01 They're there because of their greed, their pride, their lust for power. And they're going to hang on to that until they die. You will carry them out feet first out of the Senate. People like Mitch McConnell, Dianne Feinstein, Fetterman. There are people who are meeting with Mitch McConnell. Perhaps they will convince him to leave. They can't convince Feinstein. And, of course, Fetterman was impaired
Starting point is 00:04:25 before he ever ran. And so it truly is amazing to watch this. But it is a metaphor for this corrupt, senile government that we have that hangs on to power as it is decaying and dying and will do anything to hang on to power uh the amazing thing about it i'm not going to play it because it's 30 seconds of silence essentially but it came in response he's having a press conference and a reporter asked him will he run for re-election and then he freezes before he can say anything. His assistant comes over. Are you okay? What's going on?
Starting point is 00:05:11 Finally, he comes out of it after 30 seconds. And she says, next question. Because I guess he answered that, didn't he? One way or the other. I don't know when his reelection cycle is coming up, but it is sad to see that these people hang on to power regardless. They're not there as servants of the people, servants of the country. If they were, they would step aside and let somebody else do it. As I mentioned, Joe Biggs today will be the first proud boy um first of the proud boys to be sentenced i've been found guilty by these juries and of course it was a rigged process
Starting point is 00:05:54 it is an outrage they're asking for 30 years he's already been in jail for a couple of years uh this it's just such a tragedy to see this. And it's so unnecessary. What did anybody think they were going to accomplish on January the 6th? There's absolutely no way anything was going to be accomplished. It was a fool's errand. And I'm just sorry to see this. The judge, it was scheduled to have a couple of those,
Starting point is 00:06:24 five of them have been convicted of the proud boys two of them were supposed to get their sentencing yesterday but that was called off after the judge had a medical emergency i don't know did he freeze or something i don't know what happened freeze up and they ask him a question uh but uh so the other ones have been moved to next week after the Labor Day holiday. And so Joe Biggs is on for today, and he will be the first one to be sentenced. It's such an amazing tragedy. He was not violent there. They show all these pictures of him walking around and circle him during the congressional hearings.
Starting point is 00:07:04 And you know that if he raised a hand against anybody, they would have featured that. But they were featuring Joe everywhere. And it just makes me sick to see our government so corrupt. But you know, when we look at the prisoners here, and we've just had, after this story was written two days ago, Harrison Lloyd, the only person to go to jail without bail, has been released. It was not because Trump helped him. It's because he put a crowdfunding thing up and he got money to get his bail and get out of jail.
Starting point is 00:07:51 But the only person going to jail out of these 19 people, Trump plus 18 others, was a black man who was leading black voters for Trump and could not make the bail, doesn't have any money for a lawyer. Perhaps he does now after this fundraiser. I think he made $200,000. Half of it's going to go to his bail to get him out of jail. As I said before, it is not a wise strategy by Donald Trump to focus on himself only, but it is part of his character, his Shakespearean character flaws,
Starting point is 00:08:31 that he only acts out of revenge or what he thinks is his own self-interest. And he's not really very capable of even deciding what his own self-interests are, as Ty Cobb said, a deeply wounded narcissist. His own self-interest would not be to abandon these other people who are being charged simply because of him. It is not a good strategy. It's one of the reasons why so many people were indicted. And if these people turn against him, it'll be interesting to see what happens. But that's not the way that the conservative press portrays it.
Starting point is 00:09:17 You see, Joel Pollack, who's the editor of Breitbart, puts it this way. As Biden talks civil rights and Martin Luther King, Fulton County holds a black political prisoner. Well, I agree that that is hypocrisy on the side of Biden. And isn't it interesting that as we go into this civil war where the Mason-Dixon line is going to be Donald Trump, that everything that happens, you know, you don't see it when your guy does it. So the left doesn't see anything that Biden does. The right doesn't see anything that Trump does.
Starting point is 00:09:51 This is the way it's going. And they're both doing the same thing, quite frankly. There's not a dime's worth of difference between Biden and Trump when it comes to the central things. And, of course, you know, he's completely forgotten by the me, me, me Trump. People used to make fun of Obama because he would say, I, I, I, I, they'd count up the number of times they said I in a speech. Well, um, Trump is different only in the sense that he refers to himself by the Royal we, we, uh, many Trump supporters feel that Trump and his co-defendants, including several lawyers are political prisoners since they appear to have committed no crimes other than being associated with Trump's 2020 election challenges.
Starting point is 00:10:31 I agree. I think Trump, out of the four indictments, I think only one of them, the document indictment, is legit and it is a solid case. However, it is even tainted by the fact that there isn't even an even application of the law. But just like January the 6th, this is all about Trump. It doesn't matter that people go to prison on his behalf. It's still about Trump. And they're coming after Trump because he's between us and them? No, no. This is a revenge game.
Starting point is 00:11:11 It's Game of Thrones. The only one denied bail with no lawyer, no help from Trump, but they don't mention that. And so, again, it's going to be interesting to see what happens to the prisoners. But here's an example of, again, both Biden and Trump. You know, we could talk about the example of Julian Assange. Julian Assange, who is, you know, it's the indictment against him. And then was rolled out by Bill Barr as soon as Trump made that Bush CIA agent attorney general. And Trump did nothing to pardon him.
Starting point is 00:11:48 And then Biden has done nothing to pardon him. They're coming after him still. So again, Trump and Biden. Here's another one. Paul Whelan. Rare video footage has emerged of a detained American citizen and former Marine Paul Whelan inside a Russian penal colony where he's serving a 16-year sentence on espionage charges. Now, one of the reasons this is happening, they speculate, is because,
Starting point is 00:12:13 and this is RT, this is Russia Today running this report. Perhaps they want to escalate the visibility of this American prisoner who is being visited on a regular basis by high-ranking U.S. officials and British officials, because he also has a British citizenship as well as an American citizenship. And so they say, well, he's not guilty of espionage, but they're going to leave him in jail. Even as Biden goes out of his way to cut prisoner deals for entertainers, he's completely forgotten this guy. And so he's being betrayed by Biden,
Starting point is 00:12:52 but he was also betrayed by Trump. He was arrested in 2018. That was the middle of the Trump presidency. Trump left him to rot in jail, just like Julian Assange. Biden continues to do that. Here's the report from RT. The inmates of this maximum security prison are no ordinary hooligans. These walls, laced with barbed wire, secure a very different breed of criminals. Big shot drug dealers, murderers, rapists. To end up here, a person would have to take more than just one wrong turn in life. For the past couple of years, this penitentiary,
Starting point is 00:13:35 hidden in the embrace of a thick and remote Russian woodland, has been the home of Paul Willen, a former US Marine who was found guilty of espionage here in Russia and sentenced to 16 years behind bars. Paul struggles to hide his excitement as he sees our filming crew. Eventually, he waves the cameraman over and asks to film him together with the deputy warden. What's your account for the day? He's making sewing stuff. He says 100.
Starting point is 00:14:09 100 units? What's the standard amount? He says 80. Great job, you're worker of the month. As I approach Paul with the microphone, his attitude takes a 180-degree turn. His vocabulary shrinks to a handful of words. So you understand when I say that I can't do an interview, which means I can't answer any questions?
Starting point is 00:14:29 What, just a woman? It's not an interview, I think that's just a fact. If you're asking me questions... What, that's an interview. If you don't only ask me questions, I could go as deep as you just do. It'd be... final back to number. I can't do an interview. This is the letter of consent he had written and signed before our visit,
Starting point is 00:14:54 agreeing to be filmed and answering a few questions. But a few days later, a British embassy staffer paid Paul a visit, since he's also a citizen of the Crown. After that, he appears to have had a change of heart. Generally speaking, Paul routinely hosts diplomats. He is the U.S. ambassador to Russia visiting the penitentiary. It's almost as if the Western diplomatic corps doesn't want him to speak his mind in an interview to RT, an outlet they've been trying to gag for years. Yeah, well, it's not simply about RT. It's about the fact that they don't want to do anything evidently to help him. This might be an attempt by Russia to try to restart the case, you know.
Starting point is 00:15:39 But as Zero Hedge points out, the way they put this, Whelan has been deemed by Washington as, quote, wrongfully detained, unquote. But by all appearances, the Biden administration has done little to free him, even after his family and supporters expressed outrage about diplomatic efforts. Well, he was arrested five years ago, 2018. At BetMGM, Ontario's best casino action is just a click away. Play thrilling games like Premium Blackjack Pro, the dazzling MGM Grand Emerald Knights, or try to score
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Starting point is 00:16:29 BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. When Trump was president, did Trump do anything at all? You see how this always works out? Well, it's Biden. It's Biden who's bad. Trump gets a pass from everybody on everything. It's absolutely amazing to me to see this. Again, both Trump and Biden doing the same thing over and over again.
Starting point is 00:16:53 But in our division, our polarization, our tribalism, we pretend that Trump is squeaky clean. He doesn't do the kind of stuff that Biden does. Yes, he does. He's controlled by the intelligence community and the military industrial complex the same way that Trump is squeaky clean. He doesn't do the kind of stuff that Biden does. Yes, he does. He's controlled by the intelligence community and the military industrial complex the same way that Biden is. So he said, yeah, I can't talk. I can't answer questions after he'd already agreed to the interview. Previous to that, he said, I'm greatly disappointed that more has not been done to secure my release, especially as the four-year anniversary of my arrest is coming up he said in a phone interview a while back i was arrested for a crime that never occurred i don't understand why i'm still
Starting point is 00:17:36 sitting here i was led to believe that things were moving in the right direction and that governments were negotiating and that something would happen fairly soon. Well, again, this is what the politicians do. You're not their concern, as Pence said. He's not concerned about what happens to Americans or the American economy. He's got some geopolitical games to play, and they're all that way. They're all playing games of thrones. Geopolitical games are out for their own personal revenge. Here's an example out of Italy. This is a Politico article out of Politico EU. And you remember, it was less than
Starting point is 00:18:19 a year ago that Italy got a new prime minister, Giorgia Maloney. What did she campaign on? Uncontrolled immigration that was happening into Italy at the time. That was her central thing. And then when she becomes president, she does nothing about it. Does that ring a bell? Do you know anybody like that in the United States? So when politicians go 180 degrees on their key issue, do you remember that? Do you remember Trump?
Starting point is 00:18:46 How everybody was afraid of him? All the immigration stopped for the first four to six months or whatever it was. And then they realized he was a paper tiger. And it came back with a vengeance. Caravans and all the rest of this stuff. Trump never did anything about DACA. He never did anything about the wall. He built some 40 or 50 miles of
Starting point is 00:19:05 wall, new wall, repaired some other wall. He didn't need to do any of that. He could have done some of the other things that he talked about. And I said this in 2017. So why doesn't he end the war? Why didn't he bring the troops home from Afghanistan, put them on our border to protect our country. That'd be far more effective as a deterrent. But he didn't do any of that. And Biden was forced to withdraw in a Chinese fire drill, if you will, out of Afghanistan. Getting people killed, getting Marines killed. He was forced to do that.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Trump didn't do it. But then everybody condemns him rightfully so, Biden for the way that he pulled out. It was beyond stupid the way it was done, beyond stupid. But they had to leave. And Trump could have shut this thing down as he promised, but he didn't do it. So when you look at this Italian Prime Minister, Giorgia Maloney, she had proposed establishing a naval blockade of Italy's shores to deter boatloads of migrants and refugees coming from North Africa.
Starting point is 00:20:19 She said, I admire Hungary's Viktor Orban. She said she believed that white Christian civilization was under threat. But that was September of last year. Here we are 11 months later, and what is she doing? Nothing at all. As a matter of fact, you look at what has happened, and the reality has been very different. In 10 months, over over 150 000 immigrants have been
Starting point is 00:20:45 allowed in and there's no effort to stop them a ship with over 250 military age illegals all males all young from africa just arrived on the shores of italy no sane nation would allow this to go on, writes End Wokeness on Twitter, or X. And then this, an island that had a population of 6,000 Italians, they just brought in a record 4,200 illegals from Africa and Middle East. You're talking about a replacement. You're talking about swamping people. A very small island that had been known for stunning, pristine beaches. They bring in 4,200 immigrants, all young military age, with 6,000 Italians that are living there. This is the person who was going to go to the wall, fight the EU over this great replacement. You see, this is why I say,
Starting point is 00:21:51 listen to what the people have to say, talk about these policies, but understand it's going to be very, very rare if any of these politicians in any of these countries ever do what they say as a candidate. It's a lot of talk. And the beat goes on. And the same people who are running the government now
Starting point is 00:22:11 will be the ones who will be running it before. Now listen to the WHO, not the World Health Organization, but the original WHO. Don't get fooled again. Parting on the left is now parting on the right. Maloney is presiding over a country that is economically stagnant and in demographic decline. Over the last decade, Italy has shrunk by 1.5 million people,
Starting point is 00:22:34 more than the entire population of Milan. In 39 of its 107 provinces, there are more retirees than workers. It's shrinking. It's dying. They're replacing it. It's numbers like these that prompted Italy's economy minister to warn earlier this month that there'll be no reform of the pension system because these people coming in for free stuff, they're not really interested in going to work and paying for the pensions of the retiring Italians. Same thing is going to be happening all over the world.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Maloney's government has been, quote, pushed to implement a more realistic policy by the entrepreneurial class. Isn't that nice? The entrepreneurial class. The billionaires who run everything, I guess. Maloney is also one of the biggest cheerleaders for the war in Ukraine. She threw a fit earlier this year after not being invited into one of Zelensky's ritzy dinner parties in Paris and she went on an unhinged rant in March screaming in parliament at members of the five
Starting point is 00:23:35 star movement for calling for peace in Ukraine two months later Zelensky threw a the dog a bone and let her meet with him in Rome for a photo op, writes Information Liberation. That's exactly what is happening. Our civilization is dying because we don't like children. We want to kill them, want to groom them, want to use them, don't want them around. Let's find some way that we can get them out of our lives even if we have them. Is there some school we can send them to or something like that? I don't want to have them around me, right? And this is all happening
Starting point is 00:24:09 because culture is above politics and above culture is our moral foundation, really. Church of England. Priests are now saying that premarital sex is okay.
Starting point is 00:24:26 Gay sex is okay. Gay marriage is okay. We were talking about this last night. My son, well, Travis is doing the board. It was my other son we're talking. And he said, you know, the Church of England didn't really have a good beginning. It began by the redefinition of marriage. If you will, with Henry the eighth, he divorces his wife, starts his own church
Starting point is 00:24:50 because he wants to divorce his wife. Uh, he gets married another five times. I think he killed all, I don't know if he killed the last one. I think he did kill the last one. I'm not sure. Uh, but anyway, you know, um, I guess whenever he would take his marriage vows about till death do us part, probably had a gleam in his eye, don't you think, about that, when he would do that? Yeah, not an auspicious beginning for the Church of England. But now these priests want to divorce Christ from their church. Understand what's happening here? Get him out of the way.
Starting point is 00:25:25 We want to be free to do whatever we wish. A majority of priests in the Church of England want the church to offer same-sex weddings and allow premarital and homosexual sex, according to a survey of Anglican priests. It's like family feud or something. The survey says you would not expect this, would you? Not even of the Church of England. Most Anglican priests think church teaching should be brought in line with
Starting point is 00:25:51 public opinion. There you go. Here's the deal. The kingdom of God is not a democracy. God's the only one who gets a vote in election and choice. He's the only legislator. It's not election and choice. He's the only legislator. It's not a democracy, but that's the way they're treating it in the Church of England. Why? Because they've kicked God out a long time ago, if he was ever there.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Allow gay couples to get married in church. 53.4% of the priests are in favor of that. They talked to 1,200 active Anglican priests. The Church of England currently allows blessings for gay couples, but only permits church weddings between a man and a woman. So there you go. They did blessings. Well, if you're going to call evil good and good evil, why stop at that? 62.6% said the church should change its teachings on the immorality of premarital sex.
Starting point is 00:26:49 None of this stuff about flee youthful lust. No, none of that stuff. 21% want to accept all fornication. 41% say sex outside of marriage is fine for people, as long as it is a, quote, committed relationship. You know what you call a committed relationship? Marriage. That's what it used to be called. 64.5% of the priests said the church should end its opposition to homosexual sex. Fewer than a third, 29.7%, said the church teachings should not change on the matter.
Starting point is 00:27:26 In 1998, it was very different. 25 years ago, Anglican bishops from around the globe passed a resolution declaring homosexual practice, quote, incompatible with Scripture as it is. It's incompatible. You don't get the opportunity to just pick and choose what you like out of it, right? You take it all or you take none of it, really. At the time, the Archbishop of Canterbury said, quote, I stand wholeheartedly with the traditional Anglican orthodoxy.
Starting point is 00:27:55 I see no room in Holy Scripture or the entire Christian tradition for any sexual activity outside matrimony of husband and wife. That's exactly right. These people promise you freedom, but they themselves are slaves of sin. Do not be conformed to this world. They want the church to be conformed to the culture. Let's be more in line with the culture. Well, you know, they're also told, do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed
Starting point is 00:28:22 by the renewing of your mind. How? By actually picking up the Bible and looking at what it says. This is pretty obvious. This is basic. This is like the repudiation of the Constitution that we see in courts all the time. They swear to uphold the Constitution as a condition of their office, just like presumably these people swear to uphold the Bible. I don't
Starting point is 00:28:46 know if that's what they do or not, but then they proceed to ignore it. They have no authority when they do that. So instead, they promise you that you can be transformed. You can transform your body. You can do all kinds of surgery to it and things like that. But look, it's not actually transformation. What these people are talking to and talking to kids about is conformation, conforming to the world, conforming to the insanity and the debauchery that's being pushed on people, adults as well as children. That's what this is truly about. On Rockfin, Doug A. Lug, thank you very much for the tip. He thanks us. Well, thank you, Doug. I appreciate that. And on Rockfin, Mr. Goldfold, thank you for the tip. He said, RT hired Rick Moranis.
Starting point is 00:29:37 I didn't know they hired Rick Moranis. Oh, he looks, I get it. Okay. Well, it takes me a while to catch on. He looks a bit like him. Uh, but, um, uh, yeah, it is, uh, yeah, honey, I shrunk the prison. Um, so anyway, they said, um, when you look at this though, this goes bigger than the church of England. Uh, this is This is another survey. This was done of Americans who indicate that they are regular churchgoers. And in this particular survey, they said a minority of American churchgoers strongly desire more education for adults. Those surveyed said their churches provide comprehensive
Starting point is 00:30:25 and thorough amount of worldview training for children and for teenagers. They think there's plenty of education for kids. 68% said that. 74% thought everything was just fine with the teenagers. Are you looking around you? I don't see any evidence of that. I don't see any evidence of people being conformed to Christ. I see they're being conformed to the world.
Starting point is 00:30:49 About a third of those who surveyed said they'd prefer their church preacher teach about abortion more often. Look, I understand there's a lot of people who've been lied to, and that's the key thing about this. And so I think there is a role for some discussion of that the general principles are the key thing uh but you know they need to there is a constant state of deception about this and they need to also understand that if they have made a mistake, which they said a lot of them had abortions, they need to understand that there is forgiveness for that in Christ as well. Do they get that side of it either? Even regular attendees don't trust the Bible.
Starting point is 00:31:41 It said 47% of regular church attendees believe they will live in eternity with God because they've confessed their sins and accepted Christ as their personal Savior. And I would say, as their Lord. Because otherwise, if you don't accept him as your Lord, Jesus has already said, why do you call me Lord and you don't do the things I say? Well, I never knew you. We didn't have a relationship that you went away from. Jesus has already said, why do you call me Lord and you don't do the things I say? I never knew you. We didn't have a relationship that you went away from. If you don't submit, repent and submit, then there isn't any forgiveness there.
Starting point is 00:32:20 About a third of those surveyed believe that the Bible is the actual true word of God. Only about a third of people go to church on a regular basis. Believe the Bible is the word of God. Why on earth would you be going to church if you didn't actually believe it was from God? If you don't believe the Bible, why are you there? Ice cream socials, making contact with other people. I don't know. Maybe you go because you like the music and the performance. They have big lights and stages and smoke machines and all these different places.
Starting point is 00:32:44 I mean, it's like a free concert. I actually don't know. I don't know. But that's what the biggest churches do. You know, it's like this entertainment thing for people. Maybe that's what it is. I don't understand. But only about a third of them believe that.
Starting point is 00:32:59 And even churchgoers, they said, have a skewed idea of success study found only 39 percent believed that success was best defined as consistent obedience to god yeah so when we look at what is happening with abortion we have the dc jury has now found these pro-life activists guilty of violating the face act and uh this just reeks of total democrat corruption uh this is uh biden alone this is not anything that trump ever did this is the first one of these things we've gotten to where it's uh it's not biden and trump doing the same thing and trump and biden getting blamed and trump getting excused no this is all biden a washington dc jury found five pro-life activists guilty of violating the FACE Act, the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances, which in and of itself is an abomination, that act.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Look, you just need to stay away from Washington, D.C. What a corrupt cesspool that place is. They'll charge you for things that are not crimes. They have kangaroo courts. These people are now facing up to 11 years in prison and a fine of up to $350,000 each. And this is something that is clearly an invention of the Biden administration's Justice Department
Starting point is 00:34:20 and done in retaliation for their exposing what was being done in these abortion clinics. The alleged incident that they've been convicted of happened in October of 2020. Nothing happened for two years. In March of 2022, after they had gone to a surgery clinic there in Washington. They discovered the remains of approximately 115 aborted babies in a waste box there at Surgy Clinic, five of whom they said may have been partially aborted or killed after birth in violation of federal law. So after they make that public, then right after that, in the same month, they come after
Starting point is 00:35:11 them for something that happened two years prior that they didn't do anything about. This Biden administration is unbelievably corrupt. Unbelievably corrupt. I'm telling you, based on what Trump said yesterday with Glenn Beck, it's not going to get any better. If he gets in, he's now going to pursue revenge. His campaign is a campaign for revenge and it is going to further polarize
Starting point is 00:35:39 this country into a civil war over these two decrepit crooks. We want to rule the district of criminals. The Thomas More Society has noted that this surgy center has long been the subject of controversy, suspicion, with reason to believe that late-term abortionist was leaving born-alive infants without care. This is integral to understanding Lauren's motive that day in October, 2020, there were the people that were defending them.
Starting point is 00:36:13 And so, you know, this is a political case. Lila Rose, founder and president of live action released a statement slamming judge Colleen collar Cotelli for refusing to admit that the investigation video of this abortionist into evidence. This is also the same judge, she said, who recently suggested that the 13th Amendment to the Constitution's ban on, quote, involuntary servitude may confer a right to abortion.
Starting point is 00:36:44 She compared the beauty of pregnancy and motherhood with a horror of slavery, said Lila Rose. From the beginning, this trial has been a sham, with a completely biased pro-abortion judge who has made a mockery of our justice system. This decision will be appealed. We demand it be overturned. These activists are heroes. The Department of Justice has acted capriciously, illegitimately. These charges stem from the FACE Act, which exists to target and to chill the free speech of pro-life Americans. Well, that is absolutely true. And they point out how rigged this was.
Starting point is 00:37:22 Donors to Planned Parenthood were permitted to be on the jury. Yeah, exactly. Well, I got an email from Mateo, a listener, and he was talking about the abortion videos and also about COVID stuff and how it had affected him, what had happened during Trump's plandemic execution, his fifth column movement to do what the globalists wanted to do while posing as an anti-globalist. But anyway, he says, I particularly have a very difficult time during COVID with the shutdown, causing me millions in lost business for which I had six years into a project. My faith and family and your show has helped me to keep positive looking to the future. My finances have dwindled
Starting point is 00:38:17 to almost nothing. I will send a check when possible. Let me just say, and I want to read this because I want to say to him and other people, I understand it's a recession. I understand people going through a lot of difficult times. I haven't put the show behind a paywall. I'm not going to do that behind a paywall. And because I want people to be able to get information that they don't have to pay for. If you can support the program, I would appreciate it. And we've had several people who have signed up as Subscribestar regular donors. There's other places where you can do that as well.
Starting point is 00:38:51 You can do that on Rumble. And, you know, you can leave tips in various other places. But I don't want people who are in difficult financial times to make it more difficult for themselves to support us. He goes on to say in terms of abortion, he says, being a father of two boys, seven and five years old, I have a very hard time reading and even listening to your show when abortion is discussed. I'm somewhat ashamed that I don't have the stomach as I've traveled the world and witnessed death, destruction,
Starting point is 00:39:30 war, and poverty. God does something to a man's heart when he becomes a father. And while I understand the need to discuss it and to stand for life, and I do any chance that I get, the horrific stories make me think of my two boys as babies, and I'm ashamed of this country and our people. Absolutely. And, you know, again, talking about the procedure that I played, again, it's such a powerful film. Every time I watch it, I can't speak right after it. And this is the truth of what is happening.
Starting point is 00:40:03 And the truth is what needs to be unleashed. Politicians are not going to unleash the truth. They don't care about this. They want to please their donors. And we've seen with DeSantis, Mr. Sanctimonious, as Trump said, because he signed on to stop abortion, essentially, by saying, you know, at six weeks, most people don't know that they're pregnant at six weeks. That's when the heartbeat begins and other things. But by signing that, it was essentially stopping abortion.
Starting point is 00:40:31 Trump said that was too harsh. It was too sanctimonious because they don't want to have this albatross around their neck. Well, we need to release the truth. The politicians are not going to do it. So you need to pass that around. That's one of the most powerful things. If you just see what is being done. I don't think that most people in this country have really understand what has happened. I think it's being done out of ignorance. I remember in 73 when they had Roe v. Wade, and I didn't understand either. Fortunately, I never was in a situation with an unwanted pregnancy. Karen and I were just the opposite. But we never had a decision like that to make. But I look back as to what we were told
Starting point is 00:41:27 when I was in high school, early part of college, listening to mainstream media, I probably wouldn't have thought twice about an abortion. And even when I ran for Congress, it was while I was running for Congress in 1996, And I kept getting all these questions about partial birth abortion. At first, I didn't know what it was. And when I looked up, and I was just going with a standard line of libertarians. Well, I want to get government out of the boardroom and out of the bedroom, right? We don't want government running the economy, and we don't want government running our private lives. And that was my position on it. And I thought, that sounds reasonable. I don't think government needs to interject itself everywhere. But then when I saw what partial birth abortion was,
Starting point is 00:42:14 taking a child able to survive at full term and executing them, literally executing them, pretending that because a foot or a hand or something is still inside the mother, that this baby is not separated. It was full execution. And I changed my position during that election cycle because of that. And I think they're preying on the ignorance of people. But the key thing is that if you have been deceived by that, you understand that there is forgiveness in Christ and that he removes our sins as far as east is from the west because his mercy is as high as heaven above earth. He also talks about civil asset forfeiture uh an example this reported by real clear wire
Starting point is 00:43:11 picked up by zero hedge about what is happening in muskegee county oklahoma you know the place where well in jennings i think it was it was it well i don't know i'm not a country western expert i'm proud to be an okie from Muskogee. Uh, we don't smoke marijuana. We don't take trips on LSD, but you know, if you drive through our town, we're going to steal everything we see. That's what you would finish that today, because it's yet another example of how civil asset forfeiture in the drug war have corrupted the police. You had a guy, his name is Eh Wah, E-H-W-A-H. And he was pulled over, presumably because he had a brake light that was out. And then they started going through searching his car.
Starting point is 00:44:04 They found $53,000 in cash, and they said, oh, you obviously are a drug dealer, and they kept it. And the actuality was that he was not a drug dealer. He wasn't a drug lord. He wasn't even a low-level dealer. He was a volunteer manager for a Christian rock band. He was raising money for Thai orphans and Burmese refugees. That's why his name is so strange, because he's from there.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Some of the cash belonged to him and to band members following months-long tour across several states, but the rest of it came from concert donations and belonged to the orphans and refugees. But they don't care. They never charged him with anything. They never looked to see if he had a legitimate reason for having this cash. It was available to them, and they stole it.
Starting point is 00:44:55 And this is the corruption that is happening to our police, to our courts, and everything else with this war on drugs. And this comes from Biden. I talked about this once before, the evolution of the war on drugs and of the RICO statutes. And Rudy Giuliani used the RICO statutes to come after the mob. But when you get rid of due process, you eventually come after other people. They then use the RICO statutes to come after abortion protesters. And then they modified the RICO statutes to go into civil asset forfeiture.
Starting point is 00:45:36 So we will just confiscate the money first from people. We'll never even bother to charge them with a crime. You know, we're not going to come after the mafia. We just come after everybody that way. And so this is something that began under Reagan. And it was Joe Biden who had a great deal to do with it. It's got people like Reagan and Rudy and on the Republican side, you got people like Biden on the Democrat side. And they said the silence is strategic. You know, they're not making any statements when they asked the police department
Starting point is 00:46:05 there in Muskegee about it. They said the more that people learn about civil asset forfeiture, the less they like it. But Oklahoma police and prosecutors have voiced opposition in recent weeks to reforming it. They don't want it reformed. They want to keep it quiet. They want to keep stealing the money. You know, that's the thing. The more people learn about civil asset forfeiture, the less they like it. I wonder if Megyn Kelly still knows or cares about it. You know, she didn't when I talked to her. When she went to Infowars to interview Alex Jones, she had no idea what civil asset forfeiture was. She's a lawyer and a highly paid opinion person. And now she has decided that she's going to be a female Alex Jones.
Starting point is 00:46:51 She's going to rant and rave, and she's going to use profanity to sell the idea that she's legit. She's not legit. She doesn't care about you. She doesn't care about civil asset forfeiture. Everybody should care about this. Under this idea, they can take everything we've got. It's turned our government into highway robbers and thieves. And they have each agreed to look the other way because they split the money between themselves. Same thing that Trump did with the RNC and the Save America grift running
Starting point is 00:47:26 up to January the 6th. We're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back on Rock Fan. Thank you very much, Beth Baldwin. I appreciate that tip. That's very kind. Appreciate that. We'll be right back. The Common Man The common man. They created common core to dumb down our children. They created common past to track and control us. Their commons project to make sure the commoners own nothing. And the communist future. They see the common man as simple, unsophisticated, ordinary. But each of us has worth and dignity created in the image of God.
Starting point is 00:48:16 That is what we have in common. That is what they want to take away. Their most powerful weapons are isolation, deception, intimidation. They desire to know everything about us while they hide everything from us. It's time to turn that around and expose what they want to hide. Please share the information and links you'll find at thedavidknightshow.com. Thank you for listening. Thank you for sharing. If you can't support us financially, if you were, say, Joe Biden, what would your next move be in the war in Ukraine? What would you do?
Starting point is 00:49:21 Peace, immediately. Call back Trump. That's the only way out. Call back Trump. Call back Trump. That's the only way out. Call back Trump. Call back Trump. Because, you know, you can criticize him for many reasons. I understand all the discussion. But, you know, the best foreign policy of the recent several decades he did not initiate any new war. Yes. He treated nicely the North Koreans and Russia, even the Chinese, you know. He delivered a policy which was the best one for Middle East,
Starting point is 00:49:58 Abrahamic codes. Yes. So that was a very good foreign policy. You know, he's criticized that he is not educated enough to understand the world. But this is not the case. Facts count. And his foreign policy was the best form for the world in the last several decades I have seen. And if he would have been the president at the moment of the Russian invasion started,
Starting point is 00:50:22 it would be not possible to do that by the Russians. So Trump is the man who can save the Western world and probably the human beings in the globe as well. He didn't start any new wars? Yes, that's right, he didn't start any new wars. Okay, well, if that's your standard, Orban and Tucker, if that's your standard, what if Trump becomes president and just continues ukrainian war is that okay why not that was your standard
Starting point is 00:50:51 he didn't start any new wars do you understand that trump didn't end obama's wars obama had seven wars going on trump didn't pull the troops back from afghanistan we lost that war we were kicked out eventually he didn't end any of those wars. He didn't pull people out of Syria. Oh, every once in a while we thought, Oh, look at a bunch of American troops get killed in Syria because you know, the Syrians shelled the Syrian oil fields, what the Americans are have taken over as Trump was saying, just take the oil, take the oil.
Starting point is 00:51:22 Right. So did he end any of the wars? No. What makes you think then if he didn't end any of Obama's seven wars that he would end this war either? I've said for the longest time, and I stand by it, I said the big difference between, in terms of foreign policy, the big difference between Trump and Biden is going to be war with China if it's Trump, war with Russia if it's Biden.
Starting point is 00:51:47 And if we're unlucky, we'll have war with both of them. We may have a situation where we have war with both of them. Did Trump decide he was going to protect the border? Did he reduce NATO, our contributions to NATO or to the UN? No, he didn't. Any of that. Did he do anything about the corrupt DNC Biden Ukraine? See, that's the other part of it. You want to talk about Trump in Ukraine? It was Obama that created the coup 2014.
Starting point is 00:52:19 And then all of this Russiagate, Russiagate, Russiagate stuff was being done with people of the DNC, Andrea Chalupa and others going to Ukraine and creating these lies about Donald Trump, not even to defend himself. Did he do anything to expose the crimes in Ukraine that Biden was knee deep in, that Obama was knee deep in, that the DNC was knee deep in. He didn't do anything about that. He couldn't care less about the people in Ukraine that were being shelled and bombed on a daily basis, civilians being killed by continual shelling by the Obama-installed government. Trump didn't care anything about that. Folks, this is a dangerous delusion to make Trump the savior of the world. It is a dangerous thing. And again, Trump is the man who can save the Western world. And we see these headlines on Revolver. That's a headline from Revolver. We see Tucker saying that. We see Alex Jones saying that. All of them. Rockfin, SoloCat1980 says, Trump did initiate a war. That's right,
Starting point is 00:53:30 Operation Warp Speed. That's what I was going to say, and I will say it. That war has killed and continues to kill and harm millions. Plus, he launched the lockdown war on the economy. You're exactly right. Trump was the fifth column for the globalist, portraying himself as being on our side, portraying himself as being against them. But he showed his true colors in 2020 when he went to war against us. And it's not just Trump. Every government on earth went to war with their own people in 2020. The most amazing thing. It truly was, we've already had a globalist coup. And if you don't think we've already had a globalist coup,
Starting point is 00:54:14 just take a look at the debates and the facts that nobody wants to talk about this. The closest that they got was Ron DeSantis saying, well, you don't know where this economic mess came from. Well, it came from your policies, Pence. You and Trump did this. He didn't mention Trump. Can't talk about Trump. But he can criticize Pence because Pence was the vice president of Trump.
Starting point is 00:54:34 So he criticizes Pence and he says it was your lockdown and other things like that that created this economic mess. But DeSantis doesn't talk about the murders. The millions, tens of millions of people who have been killed, who have been crippled with this vaccine. Nobody talks about that.
Starting point is 00:54:55 But you got people like Darren Beatty at Revolver. You know, Trump is a man who can save the world. That's the headline. Tucker, Alex Jones, all of them,
Starting point is 00:55:04 you know, saying this. Breitbart, same type of thing. Breitbart says, there's the headline. Tucker, Alex Jones, all of them, you know, saying this. Breitbart, same type of thing. Breitbart says, there's their headline. Quote, call back Trump, unquote. Hungary's Orban tells Tucker only Trump can end the Ukraine war and, quote, save the Western world. You see, Trump, all these people are preaching to the Trump choir. And as I put up some of this stuff yesterday on social media, on Twitter, and one of them was what I'm going to get to about what Trump said when he locked us all down. And one person doesn't respond to that. Instead, he says that Trump is the best president we've had in decades.
Starting point is 00:55:48 Really? Really? After what he did with the lockdown and the masks and all the rest of the stuff? After medical martial law? After financially incentivized medical malpractice that killed so many people? People weren't dying from COVID. They were dying from his financially incentivized medical malpractice rules that he and Fauci put in. And that he paid people to do the best president and decades, same thing Rama Swami says, he said, dude, give it a rest.
Starting point is 00:56:16 COVID wasn't the only thing happening in the world. No, it was the only thing happening in the world. I don't know where this guy was in 2020, but COVID was the only thing happening in the world is the only thing we had to worry about. We didn't have to worry about how we're going to eat. We didn't have to worry about rule of law, nothing in our society. All we had to worry about was COVID. Wasn't that nice?
Starting point is 00:56:33 They made it very simple for us. We just had to worry about COVID. It was the only thing happening in the world in 2020 as they took the world apart and created a new normal. Just as Davos and Bilderberg and the UN and all these globalist organizations had always said they were going to do, Trump did it for them. He took the lead in all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:56:52 Yeah, hey, dude, you give it a rest, I told him. I've had people criticizing Trump throughout 2020. I heard the same thing. Come on, man, he's on our side. Yeah, it was necessary to have Trump because no, these idiots, these fools would not have stood still for this if Hillary had been in charge. So, yeah, they're all saying he's going to save the world. Here's another one. This is on Zero Hedge.
Starting point is 00:57:23 This is Zero Hedge's. A very dangerous moment, quote unquote, Hungary's Or one. Uh, this is on a zero hedge. This is zero hedges on a very dangerous moment. Quote unquote, Hungary's or ban Warren's Tucker. A third world war is knocking on the door. Well, again, Trump is in intelligence community and the military industrial complex puppet. Why do you think he had so many generals on there? Why do you think he left these intelligence people there and sucked up to them? Why do you think he promoted the woman who lied us into the Iraq war using
Starting point is 00:57:51 torture? You don't think he's their puppet. You don't think they own him. Just look at what he did. If you don't want to look at the personnel, personnel is policy. And then we saw both the personnel and the policy. You still can't understand that at this point in time.
Starting point is 00:58:05 Yeah. COVID was the world war. That's exactly right. And, um, when, uh, Pence talks about this,
Starting point is 00:58:14 everybody sees it with Pence cause they don't like Pence. So Pence says, well, Americans are not my concern. You know, we got to escalate things and Pence is out there. He says on day one, it's still his priority on day one.
Starting point is 00:58:26 I'll take executive actions focusing on rebuilding the military, rebuilding the military. And of course, Biden wants to do that as well. Biden says he's making moves to prevent any future president from ending the Ukraine war. Dave DeCamp at AntiWar.com points out the Biden administration is trying to reach a bipartisan security, mutual defense deal with Ukraine. See, if we get in trouble, the Ukrainians are going to come to our rescue. And if the Ukrainians get their tail beat, we're going to go to their rescue and we'll start a world war. That's what Biden wants. That's what Biden wants. That's what Pence wants.
Starting point is 00:59:07 And quite frankly, it's what Trump is going to do too. Just like you see these people, they say one thing and they do another. Just like Georgia and Maloney, right? Georgia. This is exactly what these people, I can't understand why people can't see that they're not going to keep their campaign promises. Here's Andy Schlafly, son of Phyllis Schlafly, writing on WND, Trump can and will pardon everybody. There you go.
Starting point is 00:59:36 He's going to make everything better. He's going to save the world. He's going to free the prisoners. I mean, he's just like Jesus, isn't he? Just like Jesus. As a matter of fact, he's better than Jesus. These people don't pay any attention to Jesus. They focus on every move of Trump all day long. The question is, why didn't Trump pardon everybody before? Why didn't he pardon Julian Assange, who helped him become president by telling the truth about Hillary Clinton?
Starting point is 01:00:06 And now they want to kill this guy for investigative journalism. Why didn't he free the people that gave him money and followed him to the Capitol on January the 6th? He had two weeks to do that. He didn't do that for anybody. Why did he not do that? Because as a deeply wounded narcissist, he only acted in his own perceived self-interest. And he was worried
Starting point is 01:00:30 that if he did something like that, that was going to get these people who are already furious with him even more angry. And so to save himself, ignored them. And then they came after him anyway. And so now he's out for revenge. It's war between him and these other guys. And as he's telling Glenn Beck yesterday, oh, yeah, I'm going to lock up Biden for sure. Oh, you said that about Hillary Clinton. Oh, yeah, I gave her a pass.
Starting point is 01:00:58 I'm going to get Biden this time. I have to. I've got no choice. And they're escalating it to that. And all these people say well you know biden uh is going to assassinate trump that's what tucker is now saying uh it is a game of thrones you are not their concern just understand that they're out for themselves uh just like you know mitch mcconnell glitch mcconnell he's going to stay there forever. Diane Feinstein going to stay there forever.
Starting point is 01:01:25 You are not their concern. Uh, they want to hang on to power money as much as they can. And, uh, you know, they, uh,
Starting point is 01:01:34 don't see themselves as ever having to answer to God for anything. Just going to grab everything they can. You know, whoever dies with most power and toys wins, right? Conservative groups are drawing up a plan to dismantle the U.S. government and replace it with Trump's vision. That sounds like a great idea, doesn't it?
Starting point is 01:01:53 Now, LA Times doesn't like it, but I look at this and I say, well, that sounds really good. But if you read the details of what they're proposing, and this is a plan coming from the Heritage Foundation, some people who were part of the original Trump administration. This plan is not about reducing government. This plan is not about killing unconstitutional bureaucracies. Conservatives are getting real excited about this.
Starting point is 01:02:18 And the L.A. Times is getting real concerned about it. And the Associated Press. And they're saying, well, you know, this is really bad. You know, these people are going to dismantle the U.S. government. No, they're not. They're going to keep it in place and put themselves in charge, you see. The plan is not to get rid of, the plan is to get rid of the current employees at the current institutions and to keep those institutions and
Starting point is 01:02:46 to put their people in everywhere in the past what they have typically done is leave the permanent bureaucracy in and that's the bulk of it and change one or two people at the top and now what they are talking about doing the heritage foundation, what they're saying is we need to do away with what Republicans deride as the deep state bureaucracy. Yeah, exactly. But how would they do that? Well, they want to fire as many as 50,000 federal workers. Okay, good.
Starting point is 01:03:18 Good. So far, good. And then replace them with their own people, conservatives. Oh, that's where I stop, you see. and then replace them with their own people, conservatives. Oh, that's where I stop, you see. This is just a game of thrones. It's like, keep this whole thing, and let's just put our people in charge. And this is what has been going on for the longest time.
Starting point is 01:03:41 I'm not surprised that conservatives have done this. This is, for the longest time, what the Democrats would do. And the conservatives have now. This is for the longest time what the Democrats would do. And the conservatives have now become Democrats as the Democrats have now become totalitarian Marxists. And the whole focus, this very, very narrow focus on the president, you know, whenever you criticize Trump, well, who do you want to be as president? I said, the solution is not who's president. Do you understand that? That's not the solution. You got to think bigger than this. You got to make Washington irrelevant, not take over Washington and run it with your people. You got to work locally to make it irrelevant. It's too far gone. And if you get conservatives in there, guess what?
Starting point is 01:04:25 They're going to turn into the same kind of monsters. Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts. Absolutely. This is human nature. Lord Acton pointed that out. The founding fathers of this country understood that. They were realistic about this.
Starting point is 01:04:41 That's why they gave us a structure of government that's now been completely eradicated. That's defined in the Constitution. But it shows what is wrong with this focus. So now, you know, they've always said, well, if you just get the right person in the Oval Office, that'll be great. Now it's like, if we can just get the right person and 50,000 other people in this Leviathan thing, that'll be enough to turn the ship of state around. And we'll be benevolent dictators, you see. Now, when you've got organizations that are unconstitutional, they're unconstitutional for a reason.
Starting point is 01:05:19 The wise people who created this government did not want to have institutions like that. It's the socialists who wanted it. And the conservatives come in. The thing about conservatives is, and who was it? It was Chesterton used to talk about that, how the conservatives would solidify the gains that the radicals had made. And that's what they do. It's like a ratcheting effect. These people come in and they ramp everything up and the conservatives put it in. Simplest case of that is a minimum wage, right? Conservatives fight tooth and nail, stop the minimum wage.
Starting point is 01:05:55 It's going to create inflation. It's going to do this. And then when it gets in there, they say, okay, now we accept it. Now don't raise it again. A little later, they will have the Democrats out there trying to raise it. And the conservatives will fight tooth and they never say, well, there shouldn't be any such thing as a minimum wage. We ought to have free market where we negotiate these things.
Starting point is 01:06:15 No, no, we're not going to do that. So they buy into these parties. It is a ratcheting effect. This is going to be a clarion call to come to Washington. So as a guy run this at the Heritage Foundation. People need to lay down their tools and step aside from their professional life and say, this is my lifetime moment to serve. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:36 Stop doing what you're doing in the real world. Stop making real contributions and come be a part of these unconstitutional bureaucracies. We're not going to eliminate the bureaucracies. We're going to tell people, put your stuff down and come here and be our political appointees. You see, the reason the Heritage Foundation and Republicans are joining on to this is because they know that this is the game the Democrats have done. You come to Washington, you get a nice,y job, and you are, they're now your patron and you do whatever they want and it empowers them. And so they don't want to fix the government.
Starting point is 01:07:15 They want to take it over in the same way that you see Trump saying, well, we need to do the ballot harvesting better than the Democrats. Glenn Youngkin is saying the same thing too. You know, we need to extend these voting periods out. We need to get our people to go in and vote early and vote often, that type of stuff. The Republicans are just becoming carbon copies of the Democrats in all of the worst areas, in all the worst ways. Trump era conservatives want to gut the administrative state from within, ousting federal employees they believe are standing in the way of the president's agenda and then replacing them with like-minded officials,
Starting point is 01:07:52 more eager to fulfill a new executive's approach to governing. You see? That's the issue. That's the fundamental flaw with all of this. So just one last thing here and that is it's going to be a lead-in what we're going to talk about coming up here with them the with Trump he's out there now saying he's getting ahead of this Alex Jones thing about do not comply, do not comply, and raising money off of that.
Starting point is 01:08:27 Do you think Trump really means that? Yeah, don't comply. Don't do what I told you to do. Don't do what I paid the governors to do to you in 2020. Don't do that again. This is person Mary Talley Bowden. She said, a fragile elderly patient in rural Texas tried to get ivermectin This is person Mary Talley Bowden. She said, a fragile elderly patient in rural Texas tried to get ivermectin that I prescribed
Starting point is 01:08:50 from the local Walmart yesterday with no success. His condition has subsequently deteriorated. The pharmacist at Walmart has no accountability, yet is able to control the care of this patient of mine. The pharmacist didn't talk to the patient. The pharmacist won't know if the patient lives or dies. Enough is enough, said Mary Talley Bowden. And I agree, but look, that's the same thing that is happening with public health.
Starting point is 01:09:21 They've never examined anybody. They have never looked at anything as to whether or not that is legitimate. She did an interview with a person. She said, uh, here I am, a right-wing anti-vax conspiracy theorist. That's me, says the doctor she's an md talking with a former flaming leftist bernie sanders supporter about his vaccine injury and he finally says oh now i see the light following what the cdc the fda says they have no critical thinking skills and no reason to go off label and off the book and try a different way. You think that's going to be a problem in society? I think it's already here, especially if you can set it up.
Starting point is 01:10:10 Go ahead. And unfortunately, I think medicine has become politicized so that now I think a lot of people turned against hydroxychloroquine only because of Trump. I don't think it had anything to do with it. Well, listen, I got to interject here. I interviewed a woman that her husband got COVID back in April of 2020 in New York City before hydroxychloroquine, you know, the Trump stuff came out before it got banned. They treated him in a New York City hospital with hydroxychloroquine along with a couple other medications. He was out of the
Starting point is 01:10:42 hospital in four days. This was a guy that was in a nursing home and he ended up dying after the shots, two weeks after the shots. Regardless of that, the hydroxychloroquine did save his life. They truly believe that. And then all of a sudden Trump comes out, you know, says his spiel. Trump says it, it's, you know, the antichrist said it. So gotta we gotta cut the cut the can with that and just cut it off and you know then a lot you know you know the story as well as i do but go ahead i'm sorry but yeah i mean i think either i think a lot of people are intellectually lazy it's just easier just to go along right um i think a lot of people won't believe it until they see it firsthand um and then i think a lot of it is unfortunately now driven by politics i mean now
Starting point is 01:11:35 i'm some right-wing anti-vax conspiracy theorist because i'm reporting about what i see every day and you know it but apparently it's all driven by my devotion to Trump who I'm actually mad at because I don't like the way he handled the whole vaccine or the COVID shot. So I worked. Good for her. But look, here's the thing. You want a conspiracy theory.
Starting point is 01:12:02 Here's my conspiracy theory about this stuff. You know, hydroxychloroquine is being used. Ivermectin had been used. They'd both been used for decades. Off-label use of a drug is no big deal. It happens all the time. You know, once a drug, what that means is that the FDA has not evaluated whether or not it is effective for that particular condition and approved it as effective for that political, for that medical condition, right? But you got something like ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine. They've been used for other things for a very long time.
Starting point is 01:12:36 Everybody knows what their safety protocol is, and there's absolutely no reason for people to not be allowed to take it for something else. That's what she's talking about. I've got a patient here, and the pharmacist won't give him ivermectin. There was absolutely no reason for that. It was corrupt for the FDA to say, come on, y'all, this is horse medicine. Well, that's a bunch of horse excrement. But when you look at hydroxychloroquine, what that guy was saying was exactly right.
Starting point is 01:13:02 He said, I know somebody, they were taking it, and it was working for them. And then we were talking about it, right? It wasn't first brought up by Trump. It was brought up by other people and they were pointing out that it was working. And then what happened? Well, then Trump came out and he says, well, you know, they have this thing, it's a HCQ or something like that. And I don't know, you know, we ought to try a lot of different things. You know, maybe we could even shine sunlight into our veins or something like that. And then Fauci comes out and goes, oh, you're so crazy. I'm the scientist. I'm the doctor here. It was like a Abbott and Costello act where, you know, Trump is the dunce and the straight man is Fauci who knows everything that's happening.
Starting point is 01:13:47 And I, there's my conspiracy theory. They got Trump that fifth columnist who did everything that the world economic forum and the UN and Bilderberg, all these people have been wanting and saying they're going to do for years. The things that they have been plotting to do since 2001, rehearsing on an annual basis with the germ games, they got him to do since 2001, rehearsing on an annual basis with the Germ Games. They got him to do all that stuff. They get him to go on stage and cheer this,
Starting point is 01:14:11 and then it is immediately politicized and purged. That's the reality of all this. We're going to take a quick break, and we'll be right back. Thank you. Thank you. Making sense common again. You're listening to The David Knight Show. On Rockfin, Christy Ripperger. Thank you very much for the tip i appreciate that and she writes christians not believing the bible especially genesis yeah left so many open to believing we evolved from monkeys instead of our divine creation i don't like monkeys but i couldn't abort even a monkey the destruction of the sanctity of life has been in the works for
Starting point is 01:16:26 centuries. And of course, you know, it was, you look at what Fauci did to animals as well as to humans, right? Tortures puppies for no reason except for his intellectual curiosity. And then we find out that it was Fauci and Francis Collins at the NIH that was ordering body parts from kids so that Planned Parenthood would do murder for hire, murder to order. What body parts do you need? Okay, we'll get those. We'll schedule that, and then selling them to the NIH, which then used them to create transhumanized mice again for their intellectual curiosity and their tests that type of thing um the um let's talk a little bit about the other thing that came out with trump not only is he going to bring peace to the world but he is also going to be our champion to make
Starting point is 01:17:18 sure that nothing like what he did to us in 2020 ever happens again the left-wing lunatics are trying very hard to bring back COVID lockdowns and mandates with all of their sudden fear-mongering. Your lockdowns and mandates. Gee whiz, you know what else is coming? An election. They want to restart the COVID hysteria so they can justify more lockdowns,
Starting point is 01:17:38 more censorship. Is that why you did it? More drop boxes, more mail-in ballots. Is that why you did it? Dollars in payoffs. The election? Political allies heading into the 2024 election. Does that sound familiar?
Starting point is 01:17:51 These are bad people. These are sick people we're dealing with. Takes one to know one, doesn't it? Every COVID tyrant who wants to take away our freedom, hear these words. We will not comply. So don't even think about it. We will not shut down our schools. We will not accept your lockdowns.
Starting point is 01:18:08 We will not abide by your mask mandates. And we will not tolerate your vaccine mandates. They rigged the 2020 election. And now they're trying to do the same thing all over again by rigging the most important election in the history of our country, the 2024 election, even if it means trying to bring back COVID. But they will fail because we will not let it happen. When I'm back in the White House, I will use every available authority to cut federal funding to any
Starting point is 01:18:38 school, college, airline, or public transportation system that imposes a mask mandate or a vaccine mandate. Thank you very much. Oh, so he knows how you stop this and how you start it, right? As I've said all along, Trump didn't do it. I said, no, he did it. He funded it, right? And if you don't like what somebody's doing as president, you stop the funding. Obama says, I don't like you kicking boys out of girls' bathrooms. I'm going to stop your funding. Trump does the same thing. And here he is. He says,
Starting point is 01:19:10 well, if you do these mandates now, I'm going to stop your funding. Before what he says, if you don't do these mandates, I'll stop your funding. I'll give you money if you do it, but then I won't give you money if you don't do it. Now he's reversed himself, but he understands that the way that presidents get this stuff done, because we have a 10th Amendment, they can't just dictate some of these things. Yeah, they have to create a bureaucracy to pretend that they have the authority to dictate this stuff. And then they shower people with money if they do the right thing and take it away if
Starting point is 01:19:40 they don't. It's bribing and blackmailing people. That's the way they do this stuff. Well, Trump actually did know what was going on. He was fully cognizant of it. As a matter of fact, look at this from April the 13th, 2020. He says, for the purpose of creating conflict and confusion, the fake media are saying that it is the governor's decision to open up the states, not that of the president of the United States and the federal government. Let it be fully understood that this is incorrect. It is the decision of the president and for many good reasons. With that being said, the administration and I are working
Starting point is 01:20:16 closely and we will continue. The decision by me in conjunction with the governors and input from others will be made shortly. I am the one in charge. I'm doing this to everybody. Trump bragged about that. Just like he's bragged about the vaccine. He bragged about his lockdowns. It's not the governors. They're doing what I tell them to do, and they're going to continue to do what I tell them to do.
Starting point is 01:20:37 Stop making excuses for this guy. He owns the vaccine. He owns the vaccine. He owns the lockdown. He owns the financial destruction of Main Street America for the benefit of Wall Street. The financial destruction of the middle class as non-essential. He owns all of that. As a matter of fact, the only person who pushed back against that was Thomas Massey. Remember what Trump said to him? We're going to get him out.
Starting point is 01:21:05 You know, you don't want this $3.5 trillion that I'm going to put out there to model universal basic income and get everybody dependent on government while I shut down their way of working and having a business. You don't like that? I'm going to get you out of office. He owns it all. And yet here he is now. Do not comply.
Starting point is 01:21:24 Do not comply. Do not comply. Boy, Alex has got to be on seventh heaven because Alex started all this stuff. Not the do not comply. He was scaring everybody into complying when this all happened in 2020. But he said, you know, oh, they're going to come back. Of course we know they're going to come back. But getting everybody afraid of all this stuff. And now Trump comes out and jumps on the train again. And it was always him from the very beginning.
Starting point is 01:21:52 As a matter of fact, you know, Trump not only got all these people to comply with him, but Trump complied with Fauci. And there was a real love affair between these two guys. Listen to this. The president has listened to what I have said and what the other people on the task force have said. The first and only time that I went in and said we should do mitigation strongly, the response was yes, we'll do it. When he suggests, why don't we do this? And I say, no, that's really not a good idea from a scientific standpoint. He has never overruled me.
Starting point is 01:22:24 The travel was another recommendation. When we went in and said, we probably should be doing that, and the answer was yes. When I've made recommendations, he's taken them. And then another time was we should do it with Europe, and the answer was yes. He's never countered or overridden me. And the next time we should do it with the UK, and the answer was yes. I never, in the multiple times that I've done that, where I said, for scientific reasons, we really should do this, that he hasn't said, let's do it. The first and
Starting point is 01:22:52 only time that Dr. Birx and I went in and formally made a recommendation to the president to actually have a, quote, shutdown. The president listened to the recommendation and went to the mitigation. This is a Trump commercial. This is Trump-Pence. They put that out in 2020. I hope you saw that. If you didn't see that, if you're listening to that,
Starting point is 01:23:15 across the top of that commercial, put together by the Trump campaign in 2020, says text blah, blah, blah to Trump, right, to donate. And at the end, it says Trump and Pence. That's the 2020 campaign commercial right there from Trump. Or Fauci. I just love Trump. Trump did everything I told him to do.
Starting point is 01:23:35 And Trump is out there campaigning on that. Vote for me. I did everything that Fauci told me to do. He was going at the very end of the campaign when he finally got the courage to go out and campaign, people were yelling, fire Fauci, fire Fauci. Well, we'll see, we'll see. Vote for me first, we'll see. He was bragging about how much Fauci loved him.
Starting point is 01:23:59 Just like he ran campaign commercials about how much LGBT loved him and all that he had done for LGBT. He's doing commercials about all that he did for Fauci. And he has the audacity to say, don't comply with these dictatorial orders like I gave you back in 2020, right? Rockfin, Dickon Rockfin says, I have an extended family member who was treated for COVID-19 with HCQ in an Ohio hospital March 2020, right before it was basically outlawed.
Starting point is 01:24:31 Why? Because Trump talked about it, right? Again, he and Fauci, partners in crime. He said it worked fast. So the CDC and the FDA knew. I know. I was talking about it at that point in time. I was talking about it before Trump talked about it. And then he poisoned the well by talking about it in a really stupid way.
Starting point is 01:24:50 Fauci can come, oh, they can't talk like that about drugs. No, they can't. It's just amazing that people can't see this. Even looking at Trump's own tweets, Trump's own commercials, Trump's endless bragging about the vaccine until just a few months ago. And everybody did see it. People like Wayne Allen Root and Roger Stone
Starting point is 01:25:15 and Alex Jones all said, he's got to stop bragging about the vaccine. The vaccine's killing people. Tell him to stop bragging about it. And finally he did. Finally he got the message. Uh, rumble, uh, damage. Uh, thank you very much for the tip says, uh, it's interesting that the LGBT alphanumeric thing usurped the rainbow and called itself a pride movement. The bow and the cloud is God's standard. They've hijacked it, and pride was Lucifer's sin.
Starting point is 01:25:46 Yeah, that is exactly right. And it was a promise from God that he would not destroy the earth by water again. And what Genesis says is that it was watered in a very different way prior to that. The world changed. God's going to change the world again. We're going to take a quick break, and we will be right back. Thank you. you're listening to the david knight show well as we've been saying for quite some time, and actually Gerald Salenti has been saying this for a very long time, talking about commercial real estate.
Starting point is 01:27:08 And also, for a very long time, it's been years now that Gerald's been talking about how the Chinese are just building and building and building with no purpose at all. Empty cities that are there and how that was going to come back and bite them. Well, it's now coming back and biting them. The question is, what is it going to do to the global economy? We've had Evergrande that has gone bankrupt in the past. It's trying to come back. The world's most indebted property firm, Evergrande, out of China. They have liabilities of $328 billion, and they've lost more than 99%
Starting point is 01:27:48 of their share market value over the past three years. The company resumed trading on the Hong Kong stock market exchange this Monday after having been suspended for 17 months. That's how bad this company is, trying to restructure their offshore debt. And now we've got another sick man, another big company coming out of Chinese, Chinese. This is a Chinese developer called country garden. They have a loss of $6.7 billion just for the first half of this year. Uh, so they're losing out of the clip of 13 billion dollars a year and they have also racked up big debts of 150 billion so even you know evergreen got 328 billion of these people already half there and they're losing money at the rate of 13 billion a year
Starting point is 01:28:41 they're unable to make interest payments on two loans as well. It's one of the few major home builders to have avoided defaults since Beijing introduced a three red lines policy in 2020 that aimed to reduce debt levels in the highly leveraged real estate sector in China. The red lines set limits on liabilities to asset ratios and ensured that companies hold cash reserves equivalent to at least 100% of their short-term debt. And if they don't meet this deadline for the bond payment at the beginning of September, let's see, when will that be? Oh, that's tomorrow. It could become the biggest Chinese real estate firm to crash since Evergrande did in 2021.
Starting point is 01:29:28 It has fueled fears that it will spread turbulence throughout China's economy and financial system. The rise of the world's second largest economy has been largely founded on property and construction. It accounts for about a quarter of China's GDP, and it has been as high as a third of their GDP. And there was no reason for it. This is what Gerald Salenti has been talking about. He said that combined with the actions taken by China to essentially exercise control. I mean, when you look at Mao's great leap forward
Starting point is 01:30:00 and how he emptied the cities, killed all those people, created a system of starvation it was all about him establishing his power and that's what china did in 2020 and that's what the world did that's what trump and every other leader did following china's lead it was that same maoist policy kick everybody out you know especially these people who know nothing about farming. If you go back and you look at the documentaries about what happened during the Great Leap Forward, they had everybody out there working, and they gave them no training, no instruction.
Starting point is 01:30:36 They had no idea how to do any farming. They had kids who were young and teenagers at the time and said, well, we thought, well, if we just took all the seeds and poured them into one big pit, that would be the best thing we could do. And so they did stuff like that. They had no idea what they were doing. Totally wasted resources. And people starved because of that. But it was all to establish the power of Chairman Mao. And this lockdown that we've seen with their zero COVID policy, the lockdown of Shanghai and other things like that, that was simply to assert their power and their authority. And so when, to continue with this article, it says Country Garden, the big real estate firm that's now about to go bankrupt, provides works for tens of thousands of people, is ranked by Forbes as one of the world's 500 largest companies.
Starting point is 01:31:30 Its boss was until recently the richest woman in Asia. And so just these two companies alone are their trend, and they by themselves could do a great deal of damage, but they're not the only ones. This is happening throughout China. They said major cities like Guangzhou and Shenzhen are now taking steps to ease mortgage rules. Okay.
Starting point is 01:31:57 Because home prices are falling. So now they're going to open this up and they're going to let everybody, you know, buy property that they've got out there. You know, I just saw that RFK Jr. is talking about, well, we need to make loans available at 3% to people again. I'm sure I haven't looked at the details of his, of his plan, but let me just say that, uh, I think that this is, you're going to look at this and he's going to say, we've got to do it for the people who don't have much money and they're
Starting point is 01:32:28 only going to be the ones who are going to get the 3%. And then you're going to find that they're going to also say, and we got to waive their any looking at their ability to pay this stuff back. I mean, what we'd do is just create another housing bubble. And it's the same type of thing that people have a mindset that government is going to solve every problem that we have, and that the economy should be centrally planned and controlled. You know, that's the problem with all of this that is happening in China. And it's a problem that's happening with us as well. And, you know, RFK Jr.'s approach is to always have government solve the problem.
Starting point is 01:33:05 You never hear him say, well, government is the problem. Reagan said that, but then he grew the government. But at least he said that. You know, you could say, well, I've got a reason to vote for him. Then you've got a reason to vote against him. Ron Paul supported him when he ran against Gerald Ford for the nomination and lost and then supported him, uh, when he ran against Gerald Ford for the nomination and lost and then support him again in 1980. And then he became one of Reagan's most vocal opponents
Starting point is 01:33:31 when he said, look at what he did. You know, it's just like Georgia Maloney and Italy, you know, completely goes against everything that he had to say. Uh, but China's economy says the BBC is a ticking time bomb. Joe Biden described it that way, and he can be right once or twice a year. It's obvious to everybody. By the way, Gerald Santee, if you get Excellent Trends Journal, he'll give you 10% off if you use the code NIGHT. Gerald has been talking about this particular situation in China for a very long time,
Starting point is 01:34:05 and now it's been compounded because of lockdown with commercial real estate here. And as big commercial real estate companies are unable to pay their loans, which are typically variable loans, because they have massive vacancy rates because nobody's going back to work. Nobody's going back to physical locations and all that kind of stuff after the pandemic. So they're circling the drain. When they go down, they're going to take a large part of the banking industry with it. And of course, the big banks that are too big to fail, remember them? They're still too big to fail. That wasn't just for that period of time. They're connected, they're politically connected. So the commercial real estate will
Starting point is 01:34:49 be one of the ways that they take down the banking industry to help to usher in the Federal Reserve's CBDC. Well, now we'll be there. We'll have a coin. You don't need to have a bank. You can just deal directly with us. Just get this digital CBDC and, um, you know, don't, don't pay any attention to, um, you know, this fed now thing that we got out there. That name doesn't mean anything. It doesn't mean that we've already initiated the kickoff of the CBDC. It's just, we just happen to call it fed now, but it's not coming now. It's not ever going to come unless Congress tells us that they want to do it. Well,
Starting point is 01:35:25 you think that they'll do what central bank wants to do and what the big banks want them to do? Of course they will. In the past six months, a stream of bad news for China's economy, slow growth, record youth unemployment, says the BBC,
Starting point is 01:35:44 low foreign investment, weak exports and currency, and a property sector crisis. And so it is a ticking time bomb. Central to China's economic problems is its property market. Until recently, the real estate accounted for a third of its entire wealth. Now it's down to a quarter of its wealth because it's crashing. This made no sense, no sense at all to the professor of economics in Singapore. For two decades, the sector boomed as developers rode a wave of privatization,
Starting point is 01:36:09 but crisis struck in 2020. A global pandemic struck them. Yeah, no, it wasn't a global pandemic. It wasn't even an epidemic in China. They did this. It was a great leap forward into a new normal. The government, fearing U.S.-style 2008 meltdown, then put limits on how much developers could borrow. Soon they owed billions that they could not pay back because the government then, with that policy, created a cash crunch for these people.
Starting point is 01:36:38 Now demand for housing has slumped and property prices have plunged, and homeowners emerging after three years of tough coronavirus restrictions are now poor. In China, property is effectively your savings. Does that mean different than the U.S.? Not for the middle class. It seemed better than putting your money into the crazy stock market or into a bank account with low interest rates.
Starting point is 01:37:03 Well, you know, there is something else you can do. You go David knight dot gold. I'll take you to Tony Artaban's wise Wolf gold. Uh, and you can put your money into something else. Start to do that. Uh, put your money into gold or silver, something that you can actually hold that has real intrinsic value. And, um, instead of something that is leveraged like your property, you know, have something that is don't be caught
Starting point is 01:37:32 in this trap. They understand this is a trap. It's also a trap to control you. And having real money is, uh, gives you also real privacy and real anonymity as well and an opportunity to get out of the CBDC stuff. So again, davidknight.gold, tell Tony that you came through us. It'll take you to his wisewolf.gold. By the way, Tony's not going to be on today. He's going to be doing the show for us tomorrow. So looking forward to seeing that show tomorrow. Tony always does a great job, so he'll be taking the show tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:38:07 There was this notion that the Chinese people would spend like crazy after zero COVID, that they'd travel, they'd go to Paris, and they'd see the Eiffel Tower. But actually, they knew their savings were getting hammered by the fall in house prices, so they decided to hunker down and hold on to the cash that they have. The country's astonishing growth in the past 30 years was propelled by building everything. Roads, bridges, train lines, to factories, airports, and houses. And the government did all this.
Starting point is 01:38:33 And the government centrally decided what was going to be built. It wasn't any market influence. This is what is happening to our transportation industry right now. The government says, well, you're going to change all your appliances out. You're going to change out all your cars. You know, you can't be driving around those clunkers anymore. You know, Obama, they always began by bribing you. You know, we had the cash for clunkers.
Starting point is 01:38:55 Get rid of your older cars. We don't want those things around anymore. You know, we could fix those, especially the older ones that were pre-computer controlled. Get rid of those things. We'll pay you to get rid of those things. Buy the newer ones that were pre-computer controlled get rid of those things we'll pay you to get rid of those things uh buy the newer ones and now they're telling you that they're going to punish you if you hang on to those so you go from bribery to and rewards you know carrots you go from
Starting point is 01:39:18 carrots to sticks you go from bribery to blackmail in china they They said, um, this year, even though, you know, why, why is the Chinese government still building things? Says the BBC. They can't figure this out. Here's a bizarre example. They said of China's addiction to building this year, officials are bafflingly confirmed that they will go ahead with plans to build a new multi-million dollar COVID-19 quarantine facility. What in the world are they doing that for, says the BBC? I can't imagine. It wouldn't be for the new prison camps that they want to do, for people who really push back against their open-air prisons.
Starting point is 01:39:58 Would it? Would it be that? Heavily indebted local governments are under so much pressure this year that some of them are found to be selling land to themselves to fund building programs. Yeah, their government is as crazy and detached from reality as we are. And even the BBC says the country needs to find another way of generating prosperity for its people. No, no, it's not that they need to figure out a way to control the economy better. See, that's the communist mindset there. No, they need to not have a centrally planned
Starting point is 01:40:32 and controlled economy that's going to be run by this incompetent government. Same thing that we need now, as a matter of fact. They do talk to some professors who say, well, you know, we need to not have them. This is a testament to the rigid centralized economy. And that's what we're creating here. An economy that is filled with rigor mortis because it's dying.
Starting point is 01:40:59 On Rumble, Frank Neeb, thank you very much for the tip. I appreciate that. And on Rockfin, MJ, thank you very much for the tip. I appreciate that. And on Rockfin, MJ, thank you very much for the tip. Hi, David, just a little something for the end of the month fuel gauge. Has it gotten any easier to redeem contributions from Rockfin? No, it hasn't because you still have to make a two-hop jump. You know, they have their currency, which has to be converted over to a um um what was ethereum and then converted from ethereum to dollars and you know all that kind of stuff so
Starting point is 01:41:32 it is a it is very cumbersome and has a lot of fees attached with it but i appreciate it thank you very much we're going to take a quick break and when we come back we're going to talk a little bit about school don't tread on ed, on education. We'll give you an update to what happened with the don't tread on me kid. We'll be right back. In a world of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. You're listening to The David Knight Show. Well, if you remember yesterday, I played a short clip for you. I'll just give you a reminder here because it is a lot of fun to watch this. This kid is now one big time and he's got the school to back down, but I've got
Starting point is 01:42:50 an update, not just about that, that he can go back to class, but there's something about this school that no one is talking about. I haven't seen anybody talk about this. As a matter of fact, I, on a hunch, looked up something about this school, and I'll tell you about it. But first, this is what happened. This is the teacher who's telling him he can't come to class if he's got a backpack that has a Gadsden flag, don't tread on me thing on it.
Starting point is 01:43:17 Oh, thank you. Do they know what the Gadsden flag is? Do you know what the Gadsden flag is? Do you know what it is? So the reason that they do not want the flag, the reason we do not want the flag to be is due to its origins with slavery and slave trade. That is what was, that's the reasoning behind it. The Gadsden flag. The Gadsden flag. The Gadsden flag. You're talking about the Gadsden flag? Really?
Starting point is 01:43:51 Which is the Gadsden flag. Okay. So he, he. And he's smirking. Look at this. He's, what's going to happen if he doesn't? My teacher is so stupid. He, I mean, he is able to go.
Starting point is 01:44:04 I was actually just telling him, like, I was upset that he was missing so much school. I'm like, ah. So I asked if he could just take the stuff out of his bag and go back to class. Like, I just want him to go back to class. The bag can't go back. It's got a patch on it because we can't have that in and around other kids. So that's what I was trying to. And then he said you were close.
Starting point is 01:44:22 So I was like, oh. Okay. So here's this and and look at this kid look at the uh smirk that he's got he's gonna get rid of the gads and flagging this kid's doing biting his lip to keep from laughing out loud at this teacher and i just have to wonder why is the mother sending him back i I understand, you know, this is a point and he's, um, he scored some points and he got them to, uh, give up. We had two law firms that contacted him. They contacted, uh, the, uh, school, uh, the school board that runs this school. And when I was looking at this,
Starting point is 01:45:01 uh, something occurred to me as I looked at them talking about this and their response. They said, yesterday, this is from the school, yesterday the student returned with a patch still visible on his backpack. Following the district's direction, Vanguard administrators pulled the student aside so that they could speak with his parents and the district. Upon learning of these events today, the Vanguard School Board of Directors called an emergency meeting. I thought, wait a minute, board of directors? This isn't like a regular school board. It's a school board of directors? Is this a charter
Starting point is 01:45:38 school? Why, yes, it is a charter school. It's one of the reasons why probably this kid is clean cut and he knows what he's doing and he's got a Gadsden flag. They went on to say, from Vanguard's founding, we have proudly supported our Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and the ordered liberty that all Americans have enjoyed for almost 250 years. The Vanguard school recognizes the historical significance of the Gadsden flag and its place in history. This incident is an occasion for us to reaffirm, listen to this, our deep commitment to a classical education in support of these American principles. Now, whoa, wait a minute.
Starting point is 01:46:22 This is a charter school? And the kids choose to go here? in support of these American principles. Whoa, wait a minute. This is a charter school? And the kids choose to go here? And it is a classical education? And yet, how did they begin? Well, following the district's direction, vanguard administrators pull the student aside so they can speak with the parents in the district. In other words, they're not going to blame or fire the teacher.
Starting point is 01:46:44 They're going to embrace this person. And do you understand, this is a good example of what I say all the time. The school boards, people go down and they protest at the school boards like they have in Loudoun, Virginia. And of course, now there's been a Christian school that has come online there and people are running to that school. But the reality is that even if you get the school board to agree with you, even if you get the state department of education to agree with you, even if you get the principal to agree with you, it's up to that particular teacher,
Starting point is 01:47:22 that person that you just saw there in that meeting, that person who has stickers all over the back of her car, don't mess with trans kids, and I want to turn into moss, and all kinds of crazy environmental slogans, just plastered all over the back of her car. Now, this is a conservative classical education charter school. And when I looked them up, they brag about the fact that they use the classical curriculum from Hillsdale, Hillsdale College, a very, very conservative college. They've been fighting this type of stuff for a very long time. I don't know what the situation
Starting point is 01:47:57 is now, but they used to advertise that they would not, Hillsdale College would not accept any federal money for scholarships from students because they didn't want to have any, you know, if they take those carrots, they're going to have sticks from the Department of Education and so forth. So they said, no, we're not going to take any federal money in any way, shape, or form. And so they have stood for conservative values. They've put together their own classical curriculum. When we talk about classical curriculum, things like they call it the trivium. Dorothy Sayers and other people have created, you know, so we need to go back to what has worked throughout Western civilization. You know, we have grammar school where kids are just doing rote memorization, learning
Starting point is 01:48:38 some facts, and they go to the rhetoric stage where they start to use those facts. And you have critical thinking and debating that are taught and so forth and so on. But, you know, we're going to teach kids Latin and or Greek and things like that so they can recognize the roots and words and have a larger vocabulary, all that type of stuff. That's classical education trained on classical literature and all the rest of this stuff. That's why when you look at this, I kept scratching my head. It's like, what is a kid like that doing in school? Why didn't the parents do it?
Starting point is 01:49:09 Well, they thought they were doing the right thing. They sent this kid to a charter school that was focused on a classical curriculum done by Hillsdale. But the weak link in all this is the teacher. If the teacher wants to do this stuff, the teacher will control the classroom. And if this is the quality of teacher they get at a charter school, just imagine how dumb and ill-informed the people teaching children at public
Starting point is 01:49:38 school are. Yeah. Well, Colorado, by the way, Travis, Colorado has just had a former Marxist teacher who openly bragged about Marxism, openly talked about it, just like that clip we had about a month ago. We had that guy saying, okay, so I'm doing a summer camp.
Starting point is 01:49:54 And in just a couple of days, I was able to change all the kids in our camp thing. He's in charge of, he's a counselor in charge of like a house or something where he's got like a dozen kids. I was able to change them all into Marxists in just a three or four days. Well, this guy's openly avowed Marxist in Colorado when they had somebody who just won election to go step up. And so he was appointed into this position by the Democrats and Colorado just outside of Denver. Those are the types of people in the government school, openly avowed Marxist. But of course, you know, she's, I don't know where she's coming from. She's profoundly ignorant. New educational standards are forcing gay history, climate alarmism,
Starting point is 01:50:39 and math identity rainbows on students. This is coming from The Federalist. That's what government school looks like. We just saw there what a charter school using a classical curriculum from Hillsdale looks like. This is what government school looks like. While most schools are closed for summer break, several state education departments were hard at work crafting new curricular
Starting point is 01:51:01 frameworks that will shape what students learn K through 12 for years to come. The frameworks tell school districts and teachers what students ought to learn and when they ought to learn it. The sequence and the scope of your education. When we kind of unschooled our kids, what Karen and I would do is we'd go down to Barnes and Noble and we'd look at what your first grader needs to know, what your second grader needs to know. And we'd go through and it's like, yeah, no, they don't need to know that. They need to know this, but they need to know more about this than they're
Starting point is 01:51:34 telling them, you know, that type of thing. So we kind of use that as a reference, but in many ways we taught against it in some cases. Students should know enough about America to name the president and vice presidents in second grade. They give an example. He said, you know, wouldn't it be nice if this is what the state authorities said? Well, you know, we want you to know about the president, the vice president in second grade, about three branches of government in fifth grade, how a bill becomes law in eighth grade. This is the total political orientation of this, you know, article here, the Federalist.
Starting point is 01:52:09 Do you really need to know that? Yeah, that was, again, you see all these bumper stickers. I have an honorable, I have an honor student at such and such a school. And I said, you know, we need to have, Karen, I said, we need to make up a custom bumper sticker for our kid. Say, you know, we have honorable students at the name of, because we had to come up with a name for our school in North Carolina. So we have honorable students at such and such. Isn't that what you want to teach your kids? Don't you want to give them moral instruction first and foremost? And don't you want them to be bonded to the family and the parents
Starting point is 01:52:48 rather than to the school and the teachers? Don't you want them bonded to their brothers and sisters, their siblings, more than to the kids that they happen to be in a class with at school? Wouldn't that be an improvement? I think it is. Instead of learning about the president, president the vice president second grade now what they're learning is they're learning 72 genders and sexual fetishes by first grade that's really what they're focusing on with them in california the new math framework encourages teaching towards social justice quote unquote
Starting point is 01:53:23 sample classroom activities include, math identity rainbows. So here you go. Let's fold in LGBT into math. And, you know, absolutely insane. Students choose colors that represent their individual strengths to create an image of mathematical community. This is the deliberate dumbing down of America that Charlotte Iserby wrote about in the 1980s, 40 years ago. It is deliberate.
Starting point is 01:53:51 It is a dumbing down. And so as this framework is being put together, you got 1,700 academics in STEM fields signed an open letter decrying the lack of option for even advanced students to receive advanced math instruction. Their letter also lamented that you've set aside algebra and geometry so that you can do this math identity rainbow. I mean, you talk about, you know, deliberately dumbing us down into a brave new world type of school. That is exactly what this is. Massachusetts has a framework for health. Its draft standards would have middle schoolers learn the difference between sex and so-called gender identity. The document describes sex as assigned rather than biological.
Starting point is 01:54:40 D.C., Washington, D.C., has new standards and theirs is about critical race theory and group this and group that they're going to study the history of latinx resistance in fifth grade the word resistance appears at least 40 times in the new document other historical evils are nearly ignored the word communism or communist appears only eight times and i'm sure that when they talk about it they talk about it from a favorable standpoint, don't you think? And then this. Math is not the only thing that's dying.
Starting point is 01:55:11 How embracing diversity, equity, and inclusivity is causing classical music to D-I-E. And this is outside of the schools. This is, when you look at classical music, you look at opera companies or symphony orchestras, they've always been struggling for quite some time. And so they decided in Philadelphia, the thing that was going to save them
Starting point is 01:55:36 was to accelerate this going into diversity, inclusion, and equity. And what it did was it accelerated their death. They created Opera Philadelphia, completely invested in woke saving of classical music. And here's the thing that's saving classical music. The movies. Movies saved it. The best composers, without a doubt,
Starting point is 01:56:04 of the 20th century all writing for films and tv whether you're talking about john williams or you know you've got people like bernard herman others very very amazing stuff and and it's very similar but a lot more powerful than what for example wagner would do he had to have his Wagnerian operas, and they would go on for days, telling a story to music. It's one of the reasons why when they started with early Westerns, as soon as they got sound, they started adding a lot of music to it because that really does push the emotions,
Starting point is 01:56:38 and they used to refer to the Westerns as horse operas because they were adding music along to the story it really became an opera and now that truly is what is happening with classical music you know jazz and other forms of music we have smaller group of people they tend to be more spontaneous improvisational and everything but when we get an orchestra that's a particular type of sound and there are so many people involved in that. It has to be highly structured and highly organized. And it is something that is unique to Western civilization. I've never had anything like that before. And I don't
Starting point is 01:57:18 know what is happening to these operas and the ridiculous stuff that they're doing that's documented in this article is truly amazing, but it's not surprising. If there's an orchestra around, especially if you're homeschooling your kids, one of the things that we did that we really enjoyed, one of my favorite things to do, I enjoyed it going to rehearsal, which was free. We would take the kids to rehearsal, and you can even quietly talk to the kids about what just happened. Why did he stop the orchestra? Why is he telling this group to do this or that now?
Starting point is 01:57:51 But we'd listen to the rehearsal, and you could go there for free. It would cost quite a bit of money to go to the concerts. We took them to the concerts sometimes, but it was a lot more formal thing. It's free. It's very informal, very educational. I'd highly recommend that if you are homeschooling your kids. But they decided to go full on to this. Black Lives Matter and everything else.
Starting point is 01:58:16 And it's bankrupting the classical music, as you would expect. By the way, this Marxist teacher that's in Colorado has been appointed as a state legislator. Pictures not only of what he is saying in terms of pushing revolution, but also, he's Hispanic, he's also pictures of him standing in front of his La Raza signs. La Raza means the race, and essentially their motto is the you know, the race, the Hispanic
Starting point is 01:58:47 race, everything for the race, nothing for any other people. I mean, it is absolutely as racist as you can get. Hundreds of Christians flocked to a new school in Loudoun County. This is one of the places where the involvement in, you know, the school board meetings was very heavy because it was right there on the outskirts of DC and where this fight over parental rights was a big skirmish. And so this is a fight that has been there for a very long time. As I pointed out yesterday, I started reading articles about Michael Ferris and there was a Washington Post article that was done on him simply because he's been at the center of parental rights. They talk about how he'd created all these different organizations like the
Starting point is 01:59:34 Homeschool Legal Defense Association and the Alliance Defending Freedom and things like that. But they said his biggest effect has been outside the courtroom. They said, for example, he told Glenn Youngkin, he said, uh, for example, uh, he told Glenn Youngkin, he said, you just keep repeating parental rights and you'll be governor. And that's exactly what happened. Yeah. He got elected. Were there whatever Glenn Youngkin is about, and I'm not saying I trust him or support him. Yeah. He's been a lot of concern that he is an establishment Republican appears to be.
Starting point is 02:00:03 Uh, but, um, it was his talking about parental rights that really got him elected governor. And that's what people are very hungry for. We're going to take a quick break, and when we come back, we're going to talk to Davis Shantz. We've talked to him as a lawyer. He works on homeschooling situations like that, as well as many other religious liberty issues.
Starting point is 02:00:26 And he got involved as a military lawyer and as someone who has been a JAG officer and very successful in that. He got involved in defending the military against these Biden mandates. So when we come back, we're going to be talking to Davis Shantz. Stay with us. We'll be right back. In a world of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. You're listening to The David Knight Show. Yes. Thank you. Joining us now is Davis Yontz.
Starting point is 02:01:34 And I was just asking him his website. It is yontzlaw.com. That's Y-O-U-N-T-S, yontzlaw.com. And we've got so many things that have happened legally that I would like to talk to him about. Uh, he contacted me and said, he'd like to talk about Trump's indictment and the GOP debate. But of course, uh, there's been a lot of things that have happened, Mr. Yon since we last talked about the military, um, mandates. Uh, what, what is the current status as far as you know, on that?
Starting point is 02:02:04 Have they, uh, as you know on that? Have they made anybody whole on this? We just had some whistleblowers talking about the DMED database and how many conditions have escalated even after they went back and said, oh, well, you know, you're comparing this to the previous five years. Oh, the previous five years are all wrong. Even after they went back and manipulated the data, it's still a huge increase. What is happening in terms of the military and this vaccine? Yeah, so unfortunately, not a lot has changed when we look at trying to make military members whole, as well as trying to get really solid military members back into the service. So you still have more than 12,000 military members that were kicked out. They were alleged to have committed
Starting point is 02:02:45 misconduct because they had a religious accommodation that was unlawfully denied. Those individuals are still out there, still struggling with negative service connotation on their DD-214. And unfortunately, the decimation that happened, remember at one point there were 264,000 members of the military that were not fully vaccinated. Many, many of those, and no one has accurate data on it, and there's reasons why they don't, I'm sure, but many, many thousands simply left the military. They either retired, retired early, didn't reenlist or otherwise. So those folks are still out there. So a lot of the work I'm doing now is going to be based on trying to restore rights to
Starting point is 02:03:26 military members who were persecuted for their religious faith, try to make them whole, as well as try to get others back into military service that were either kicked out or sidelined in some other way. And unfortunately, what we're hearing right now, what I've been hearing over the last couple of days is that the mandate may be coming back. There's a lot of chatter about a new vaccine for the new COVID variant that's out there. And the military whistleblowers that I work with, some of my clients are telling me there's a lot of chatter from commanders from the Pentagon talking about what it would look like to bring a new mandate back. Yeah, we just had Biden saying, yeah, we're like to bring a new mandate back. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:05 We just had Biden, uh, saying, yeah, we're going to have a new vaccine and this one's going to work. So yeah, they're going to try, they're going to try.
Starting point is 02:04:16 And of course they can force the people. Yeah. And the military, they can try to force the people without it. Jason Barker is a listener who was in the military at the time. And he, he wrote a great letter that we had on a website for quite some time uh outlining his religious objections to it a lot of people use that uh that were in the military but even people who were uh nurses
Starting point is 02:04:35 and other things who were they were having that dictated by their employer um he hung in until he got up to his 20 years he He was getting pretty close to it. He's one of those people who left as he got to that point. And he's now a commentator with Knights of the Storm. So he's out there still doing good work telling people about this stuff. But, yeah, they've pushed so many people out. And as you pointed out last time we were talking, people who managed to remain in now that they've kind of paused this mandate, if you're still there, they're saying, well, you can't do this and you can't do that. And that's going to essentially drive them out of their career if they're blocked from being
Starting point is 02:05:17 able to do certain things that they have to do in order to get a promotion, right? That's absolutely right. So the impact is still, it still exists. It's still there. It's still a problem. And again, nothing Congress has done so far prevents the DOD from issuing a new mandate. So if we look at the leadership in the White House, we look at the mentality of senior military leadership. We're looking at a real issue. Now, I think there's also a possibility of a budget fight, right? So if Congress does engage in a budget fight and starts talking about funding for the military and those things, it's possible they will hold off until some sort of a budget agreement is
Starting point is 02:05:56 reached. But I am concerned we're going to see increasing chatter in September. And then if there's some sort of a budget deal that happens, I fear if there's going to be a new mandate, it will follow shortly on the heels of that. And since we've established with Warp Speed that they don't have to test any vaccines or anything like that anymore, this quote-unquote new vaccine, that could appear any day now as well. We don't have to do any testing whatsoever. We've established that as a precedent. That's going to stick with us. It's already sticking with one type of medication after the other isn't it absolutely right and remember still to this day they're not they're not manufacturing the fda approved version of these vaccines for covet they're still not
Starting point is 02:06:36 manufacturing the fda approved version which is still an unresolved legal issue when we talk about the military and others so tons of And unfortunately, they're going to continue for our military members as well as anyone else, particularly those that work for liberal state governments or the federal government. And you're talking about the label specifically, right? The Corbinati issue. Is that correct? That's absolutely right. It's absolutely right. Which the FDA said, look, these products are identical, but they're legally distinct. Well, if they're legally distinct and you haven't approved the one that's available in the United States, then how can you legally try to require people to have this? That's the fundamental issue.
Starting point is 02:07:11 It's just this kind of double talk that we see happening all the time with all of these issues. That's what the government has become, isn't it? That's right, yeah. It's become more about political will than the rule of law, unfortunately. That's right. That's right. Yeah. Become more about political will than the rule of law, unfortunately. That's right. That's right. Well, when we talk about political will versus the rule of law, you want to talk about the indictments happening in Georgia. That is truly amazing.
Starting point is 02:07:37 I think many people have talked about how this has criminalized free speech and the practice of law. What's your opinion of that? Yeah, I think that's the biggest concern I have as we try to look at this indictment, right? So Georgia is using sort of a very robust RICO statute, the Racketeer Influence Corrupt Organizations Act. This is something used to go after the mafia. And why the reason that it's attractive to prosecutors is you can essentially group people together, say 20 people, 19 people are part of a conspiracy, and then try to hold each individual member responsible for all of
Starting point is 02:08:13 the actions of everyone else in the conspiracy, right? So this is what was used to take down the mob. It's important to understand that. You don't have to get someone for murder. You just have to say that a murder happened and it was part of the organization. Well, now what's interesting about what's happening in Georgia is they're bringing all of these other individuals in and they're arguing that things that were done after the election that dealt with trying to investigate and try to understand whether or not there was election fraud or election interference, and that's being charged as a conspiracy.
Starting point is 02:08:47 Yeah, that is amazing. So imagine, I mean, things like phone calls, things like phone calls to individuals responsible for ensuring a free and fair election and saying, hey, we're hearing concerns. We're hearing problems with drop boxes. We're hearing things like people are coming in the middle of the night and putting hundreds of ballots in a drop box. Can we look into that? Are you seeing these same concerns? Is there anything we can do to try to understand what happened? Right? So I haven't seen anything yet. And I'm a former federal prosecutor. I'm a former defense counsel. I still practice criminal law. I haven't seen anything
Starting point is 02:09:25 that goes to this idea. What we are going to do is change the outcome of the election. Our intent is to change the outcome of the election. You don't see that. What you see is we don't agree with the outcome. We have concerns about the outcome. We think there may have been fraud, but the narrative that you hear in all of the media continues to be there was no fraud it was a fair election right but when we look at 2016 the same media was saying there was russian interference it wasn't a federal election you can see multiple times where former presidential candidates like hillary clinton said hey the election was stolen right unproven interference there so again my big concern about what's
Starting point is 02:10:05 happening in Georgia is you are using a, a County that is very, very leans heavily Democrat, right? 70, 75% of the voters in that County are registered Democrats. You're using an elected official, a DA to bring a conspiracy charge against individuals who were at worst trying to determine whether or not there was fraud and based on their belief that there was fraud in the election, figure out legal means, legal means with which to challenge the election and the outcome of the election. Very, very dangerous precedent. Now there may be things that were done that were illegal, but it's very, very dangerous precedent to do that be things that were done that were illegal but it's very very dangerous precedent to do that because now you're creating a scenario where i mean
Starting point is 02:10:50 frankly if we take if we take morality out of it we take ethics out of it or anything else you're creating more and more incentive for politicians to cheat in elections because if you lose you're going to be criminally prosecuted yeah i mean, is that really what we want going forward? Again, those are some of the things that I have concerns about when we look at these cases. Yeah. I covered an op-ed piece that was on Brownstone from a lawyer, and he was essentially saying the same thing. He said, I've been amazed, he said, to see how mainstream media would just let Julian Assange twist in the wind for doing investigative journalism and wouldn't do anything about that do they realize that that's not going to come back to them and goes and now when i look at what is happening here he says you don't have to agree with what they were saying he says i've
Starting point is 02:11:31 looked at the legal briefs and i thought they were garbage but he says they were still investigating this thing if you're going to criminalize the practice of law and he says most lawyers are being silent about this just like most of the journalists are being silent about Julian Assange. If we're going to criminalize the practice of law and investigation around these cases and stuff like that, he says that's an amazing precedent that's being set. And the mainstream media and the mainstream of the legal profession are not worried about these types of things. This really is the ground shifting under our feet, isn't it? It is. And one of the concerns I have is, you know, what attorney is going to want to go and work for President Trump in a future White House or is going to want to work with him when most of the attorneys that have worked with him, it seems more and more are getting criminally charged.
Starting point is 02:12:22 Yeah. Right. So, I mean, that's a very, that's a very scary thing. When we think about the practice of law, we want attorneys, we want a society where attorneys will represent individuals and advocate for a fair trial for anyone, regardless of their political affiliation, regardless of what they're alleged with doing or their background, everyone deserves a fair trial. But if we continue a process where we've decided we don't like president trump we're going to go after him by any means and included in that is going to be coming after these attorneys and here's i mean just imagine this these attorneys these attorneys that that were just involved in exploring and trying to figure out can we file litigation is
Starting point is 02:13:03 there something we can do within the legal process to challenge this election? Those attorneys are now being criminally charged. They're facing half a million dollars in legal fees just to defend themselves in a case like this. And quite frankly, I'm also hearing there are attorneys that are afraid to represent them. There are attorneys that are saying, I'm risking my license, my entire legal career in order to defend you. So it's going to be a half a million dollars or a million dollar bill because I'm risking everything. I'm risking my ability to make a living by doing this. And that bothers me much like it bothered me doctors that are losing their license because they recommended alternative treatments for COVID or they, they, they approved religious accommodations or recommended medical exemptions. So I just,
Starting point is 02:13:49 again, I think those are the big picture concerns we, we have to recognize and deal with. Or you're not in a situation like, uh, you know, journalism, for example, you know, how I get kicked off all these, I've had PayPal ban me and so forth because they don't like what I talk about and so you know this is happening everywhere in our society um you know this is uh this is taking it to a new level in terms of coming after the lawyers and we should all be very concerned about that but this is just in general the new totalitarian rules that they're imposing on everybody everybody feels the lash when it comes to social media to one degree or the other don't they no they they absolutely do and i think you know we have to we have to be wise
Starting point is 02:14:30 we have to be careful in how we evaluate this and the last thing i'll say about these criminal cases is this you know there was there's a subtle shift that's happened over i would say over the last hundred years in our legal system most people people outside the legal system wouldn't recognize that it happened, but it's really important because there's a concept called jury nullification. So the concept called jury nullification was part of our system. It was part of our system when our nation was founded, it was understood as critical. And jury nullification is this idea that when we take a criminal case and we put it in the hands of a jury, those 12 citizens can make a decision that say, we know that the law was violated technically here, but the right outcome is to find this individual not guilty
Starting point is 02:15:16 and move on. The government's wrong to persecute this person for this violation of the law. This concept of jury nullification that has fallen completely out of favor. Many States have laws on the books that you can't even argue for jury nullification as an attorney that you can't stand up and say, this is not the right thing to do in this case. I believe there's only one new England state that even has jury nullification as a possibility on it. No, no. Why do I bring that up? It's just something to pay attention to and think about. Ultimately, the jury is supposed to be supposed to be something critical in our system. Thomas Jefferson said the jury was the only anchor yet imagined by the mind of man through which a government could be held to the principles of its constitution.
Starting point is 02:16:00 That's right. I mean, think about that. So, you know, I pray, especially given what I do, but even for any case, I pray for juries, for citizens who are wise, who are discerning, who are clear-minded and are willing to push back against totalitarianism and tyranny from the government. But I do think that concept of jury nullification is something we need to figure out how to bring back, whether it's through legislation or otherwise, it needs to be a part of our system because in some cases, and I have tried cases where we have won, my clients have been acquitted because of jury nullification and we weren't allowed to argue it as you have the authority
Starting point is 02:16:35 to do this under the law, but we were allowed to argue the right thing, the fair thing, the just thing is to acquit in this case. So that's just an important principle we've lost sight of in the law. It needs to come back. Yes. So that's how I got hired at InfoWars. I was doing reports about a fully informed jury association and some people who are standing up for it. And, and they, if you just hand out general, uh, literature about, uh, jury nullification, uh, downtown in front of the courthouse, not about any particular case or anything, they would come after them and try to get them in jail for jury tampering. That's how serious it was in terms of challenge,
Starting point is 02:17:09 but it has always been a very important part. Your trial by jury had Gilbert and Sullivan writing an opera about trial by jury, because it was understood to be such a bedrock of a society that was going to have rule of law and individual Liberty. And it goes back to William Penn's trial. I've talked about that many times, establishing jury nullification as well as habeas corpus. And so this is something that's always been there.
Starting point is 02:17:34 But the way that they get around this is in many cases you have the judge just lie to the jury and say, you're not here to judge the law or the punishment. You're here to just judge the facts of the case. And nothing could be further from the truth. I had one person that I interviewed out of New Jersey, and he called himself New Jersey Weed Man. He had Rastafarian dreadlocks and stuff, and he smoked pot a lot. And they arrested him.
Starting point is 02:18:01 He had quite a bit of marijuana for his own personal use. And if you talked to him, you'd realize that it really was for his own personal use. But he actually lit up when I was doing the interview with him over Zoom. But he looked at it and he said, I couldn't get a lawyer to argue this case, but I knew it was in the New Jersey Constitution. So I printed up that part of the Constitution. And when I was representing myself, he said, I knew that the majority of people did not support, uh, criminalization of marijuana in New Jersey.
Starting point is 02:18:29 So I thought I could get off with jury nullification. So he puts up the sign and, uh, the judge immediately says, take that down. I'm going to hold you in contempt, throw you in jail. He said, but the problem is that the jury had already seen it, that it was in the New Jersey constitution. And so they voted, uh, seven to five to acquit-5 to acquit him, but with a hung jury. So the DA came back after him again, and the next trial he had a different judge, and he did the same thing, and that judge allowed him to put that up,
Starting point is 02:18:58 showed the New Jersey Constitution. And that time they acquitted him 12-0. But we don't usually have jury trials anymore because they play this game. And this is another thing we've seen in these charges against Trump. They come in with so many trumped up charges that they try to get you to plea bargain out of it. That that's the other issue. It seems to me like that's the really big issue, Davis, that how do we break this cycle of people who, A, don't believe that their fellow citizens are really going to take a stand and are really going to judge the law or whatever. And the fact that they're so overcharged with this stuff because the game is they add all these additional charges and then say, well, we'll drop the additional charges if you plead guilty to what we really wanted to get you for in the first place.
Starting point is 02:19:43 They don't present it that way, but that's essentially what's happening. How do we break that cycle? No, it's a really, it's a hard challenge to break that cycle. But the reality is, just look at federal courts. 98% of federal cases results in a plea agreement. 98%, right? And there's this joke, we hear it all the time, it's become a trope. But it's scary to me how much of a trope it's become that we all violate. We all commit
Starting point is 02:20:08 violations of federal law unknowingly every day, right? Each citizen does that. There's something to that. So what happens is, especially with the way the federal guidelines work and sentencing is all in the hands of the judge, not in the hands of the jury. So the federal judges appointed federal judges are in charge of sentencing. And the issue is the way the guidelines work, you know, many individuals face, you know, dozens and dozens, sometimes hundreds of years in prison over the allegations. So they're sitting there going, okay, I'm, I'm looking at, you know, 25, 30, 50, $200,000 worth of legal fees, number one. And number two, I'm looking at the possibility if this goes poorly of doing decades in prison, or I can take a deal, I can do two years of
Starting point is 02:20:52 probation, I can save a lot of money on attorney's fees, and I can try and move past this. But there's no thought to the coercive nature of these charging decisions. So, you know, one answer is to take a hard look at how we pick, how we select and how we use United States attorneys. That's on the federal level. On the state level, I would encourage people to be very, very cautious. If you, if you have the ability to vote in an election for a district attorney in your county at the state and local level, take that very, very seriously. Look hard at those people and try to find other people that are willing to run for that office at that local level that have some control and discretion and can do the right things because these DAs and these US attorneys do have a great deal of discretion in charging, and that would be
Starting point is 02:21:42 a great step. So there are political solutions to it unfortunately we've just we've created a system where there are so many people going through the process they can't prop they can't properly give everyone a jury trial the system breaks down yeah and so the system is built on on plea bargain and you know it was um i remember in the transition period before trump but after he got elected in 2016, before he was sworn in in 2017, Obama and Eric Holder talked about how they were going to focus on district attorney races and on state attorneys general. And they had a lot of money from Soros, as we've seen. And so we've seen that type of thing being done in all these different places. With Trump, we see it being put into practice.
Starting point is 02:22:25 And I don't support Trump since he did what he did in 2020 with the lockdowns and the vaccines. But I think it's an outrage what is happening. This weaponization, as you're pointing out, is setting up some very, very dangerous precedents for so many different things. And people can see what this strategy of district attorneys and state attorneys, generals, they can see how dangerous that is and why that was so important to radical leftists like Obama, Eric Holder, and George Soros to spend lavishly on these races to put people on. I mean, they're spending millions of dollars on local district attorney races. So that tells you how important it is to them and that they're going to use this for
Starting point is 02:23:04 something. So what you said is absolutely true. We have to look at the sheriff very carefully. We have to look at the local district attorney. We have to look at the state attorney general. Those are races that I think in many ways are far more important than even the president because the president is so insular from all these different concerns. And it really is the people who are closest to you that are going to have the biggest effect on you. They can make things better or they can make things much worse than whoever's in Washington, can't they? That's absolutely right. And whether or not you support, you know, President Trump running again, you have to look at the reality of the plan that was put in place with these prosecutors, with these DAs, with these elections, the importance of these U.S. attorneys, you know, and now you have situations where, you know, the federal judge,
Starting point is 02:23:49 the DEC case, that judge has set the trial date for March 4th. That's the day before Super Tuesday. The DA in Georgia wants to set the trial for the same date, the day before Super Tuesday. So, so again, you know, we should all just take pause take pause, whether we are a Trump apologist or not. And I'm with you. I have grave concerns about how COVID was handled and what happened there. But the reality is this is partiality. This is using the criminal justice system to political advantage. And when you start looking at trial dates, you just have to roll your eyes and go,
Starting point is 02:24:24 wow, this, this feels a lot like election interference. Doesn't it? They're doing that in our face and they're doing it deliberately. And they're trying to escalate things into a civil war. And the thing that concerns me, I didn't get to the clips today to play them, but you know, we've got people now openly talking about civil war and assassination.
Starting point is 02:24:40 Trump, Tucker talking about the assassination of Trump. You got John Voight, the actor saying this is a civil war. And everybody, Trump is becoming the Mason-Dixon line. He pushes this stuff because he makes money from this stuff. And so he's taking the indictments to the bank, and his poll numbers are going up. But the other people are doing the types of things like you talked about, the fact they're
Starting point is 02:25:03 going to put the trial date the day before super Tuesday and all the rest of this stuff. And, and it really is polarizing the country into a civil war. I think that is a very, very dangerous thing. And it looks like both sides want that to happen. It seems like to me, I mean, again, we have to go there. We, we, we have to be wise.
Starting point is 02:25:22 We have to be discerning and we have to have those concerns and then we have to look to things like what will congress do congress the republicans in congress can vote to defund the doj right they can restrict the powers of the first so there are political things that can be done but if they're not done and we're not seeking political solutions then then the divide gets greater the differences get greater, and we reach into some very, very dangerous times. I pray that's not the direction this goes, but if political solutions aren't being sought, I agree with you. I have the same kind of concerns. Yeah, you know, when we look at this too, as soon as I saw the RICO statutes and I saw Rudy there,
Starting point is 02:26:01 and he actually talked about this in his statements, the fact that he had used Rico so extensively as a prosecutor before he became mayor in in New York. And, you know, when you look at the Rico statutes themselves because the whole point of a big part of the RICO statute, besides making the prosecutor's job easier to come after organized crime, it was also to take away the money so they wouldn't have the money to hire the best lawyers and defend themselves and get off on technicalities and things like that. And so that gradually evolved over a period of time with people like Rudy and, ironically, with people like Joe Biden into civil asset forfeiture where they come in, they confiscate property from people and never even charge you with a crime, let alone find you guilty. And so I thought it was kind of ironic that Rudy is getting charged with the RICO statutes. What do you think about the RICO statutes in general? Yeah, I have grave concerns with them.
Starting point is 02:27:08 You know, I'm a big believer in looking to the Bible as a foundation for how we approach our legal system. And one of the concerns I have with RICO statutes is just fundamentally it was designed to make prosecutions and getting convictions easier. That troubles me. Just notionally, whether it's my time as a prosecutor or as a defense attorney, anytime we're changing the law to try to get more convictions or make prosecution easier, I'm troubled by that because that's not supposed to be the point of our legal system. Our legal system is supposed to be designed to punish the evil and protect the innocent it's not about numbers prosecutions or anything else so Rico statues have a troubled history um you know they were used with some effect against the mob and you could see how you could bring down an organization by doing that at the same time whenever you have
Starting point is 02:28:00 a conspiracy like that whenever you have a Rico statute the, whenever you have a RICO statute, the problem is, you know, I represent individuals. Sometimes I do court appointed work in the federal system. So you'll have a very low level drug dealer, right? So not the greatest human being in the world. I understand that, but very, very low level, minimally involved, but because they're charged under a conspiracy or under a RICO type statute, all of a sudden they're responsible for millions of dollars worth of drug trafficking over an entire region when all they were was a bag man or something else on a very low level, right? A user that sold a little bit, and they're responsible for anything else. often to what I would consider unfair outcomes and really escalates the criminal liability for individuals who are just, you know, bit players and something, or even just didn't fully understand the scope of what they were getting involved with when they did. Yeah. Yeah. This whole civil asset forfeiture thing. And I talked about a case that's getting some publicity now it's several years old about six years old uh up in muskegee
Starting point is 02:29:05 oklahoma and just you know pulling a guy over going through his car you know he's got a taillight out or something like that and just finding cash and taking all the cash and it was cash that they've been doing as a christian band concerts they were doing for people and um and so it was their pay as well as donations that they had picked up, cash donations for an orphanage and all the rest of the stuff. But this has become kind of standard operating procedure. And the police have been corrupted by this heavily because they get to participate in the booty. But it's just taking the stuff, never even charging the person, but charging the object, the inanimate object. It's like the government versus this car,
Starting point is 02:29:45 serial number this, or a jet, or a house, or a stack of cash, or whatever. They don't even bother to charge the person, let alone find them guilty. That's the thing that I see just so amazing to me. And, you know, it's kind of another one, you know, with Trump, when he said about the red flag laws, you just take the gun and do the due process later. Due process later. I said, well, that's not due process. If you don't do it when it's due, it's going to be done beforehand. But this is a really dangerous thing that's happening,
Starting point is 02:30:11 and it's been happening to ordinary people for a very long time. I was talking about civil asset forfeiture back in the 90s, and yet now that it has gotten to the point where they're coming after their political opponents using this type of tactic, RICO and civil asset forfeiture. That's still not really being talked about by either the left or the right press. They're still not talking about these injustices. It's still strictly about Trump versus Biden. They're not looking at the overarching issues and the precedents that are being set here, I'm afraid.
Starting point is 02:30:45 Yeah, I agree with you. I think that's a grave concern, and that's why we have to stay engaged. We have to stay alert. That's why I appreciate the work that you do in trying to help people understand and educate people, because we have to pay attention to these things, and we need to remember the law should be the law. It shouldn't matter. There shouldn't be partiality.
Starting point is 02:31:05 There shouldn't be concerns. Justice is supposed to be blind for a reason. That's what we should fight for. We should live in a society and a system where it doesn't matter who is on trial or where in the nation there are. We should be able to count on our fellow citizens to do the right thing. We should be able to count on district attorneys. Now we live in a fallen world.
Starting point is 02:31:23 That's never going to happen. But if we go back to, and we understand why we had things like jury nullification yes that's that's a critically important thing why we why we gave congress why the founders gave congress the power of the purse they don't exercise it anymore because everybody feeds into the system but there is so much power that comes from the ability of Congress to work on funding. I mean, look at simple things like what Senator Tuberville is doing in Alabama. I know very little about Senator Tuberville. I wasn't necessarily optimistic about him as a Senator, but he has done so much to protect the military from woke ideology, as well as to push back against the abortion policy by simply saying, I'm going to object to unanimous consent to these military nominees.
Starting point is 02:32:10 We can either go and have a full hearing and have a floor vote, or I'm going to keep my block in place and I'm going to object to this unless you change your illegal policy on funding abortions and unless you give us an opportunity to understand who it is, are these communists or not, that you're appointing to senior military positions, do they have the best interest of our country in mind or not? That's right. It's a really good example of what one person can do if they're committed to this. You can really be a fly in the ointment, and there's things that you can do to stop that instead of just rubber stamping everything that's going along. And that's typically what we have seen with Congress.
Starting point is 02:32:50 You know, the other part of it is let's just kick it over to the bureaucracy and let them have the hot potato. And then if they get really wrong, we can come in like we're the saviors on a white horse and we can fix this thing and blame it all on the bureaucracy, which never has to answer to the public at all. So we have this system of taxation without representation and now regulation without representation as well from these people. I'm so glad that you talked about a fully informed jury association. And that is not the association, but an informed jury. That is a key
Starting point is 02:33:21 thing, I think. And it is something that is so vital that we have lost. And just to state it again, everybody needs to understand that if you're a juror, you're there to judge not just the facts of the case, but you're there to judge the law and the penalties that will be applied. And if you think that the law is unjust or the penalties are going to be excessive, it is your right and your duty as a juror to oppose that. But you're told exactly the opposite by almost all these judges. And I guess, you know, what I've heard is that if you start talking about it to your fellow jurors, they'll kick you out of there and put in an alternate, right? Because that's typically what happens. That has happened.
Starting point is 02:33:58 There's been documented cases of that happening. Absolutely. Truly amazing. Well, you know, when you look at these other cases, just real quickly, not just the one in Georgia, that's particularly egregious in terms of its politics. And before we leave it, let me just ask you your opinion about this. As I've looked at this and other people have looked at it, it looks like another part of this strategy is to have so many people that are there that they can get the lawyers to turn on Trump. And by charging the lawyers, she can break the attorney-client privilege. That's another important precedent that they're trying to get rid of.
Starting point is 02:34:32 So by charging the lawyers, then that breaks that, makes them co-defendants, and then hoping that they will turn on Trump. And then Trump is not paying for anybody's big legal fees. And that's kind of a dangerous thing for him as well. Even one guy who had to sit in jail for over a week because he couldn't make bail and couldn't afford a lawyer. He's now got online fundraising, uh,
Starting point is 02:34:56 gifts and go or something like that. Uh, but, um, it is, um, yeah. What do you think about that strategy?
Starting point is 02:35:02 You think that's going to, uh, backfire on Trump and that some of these lawyers are going to flip? Is that what her ultimate strategy is, you think? Yeah, you know, the reason, in my opinion, the reason that you charge people under a RICO statute, the reason you bring in multiple defendants in these cases is because you are going to try to flip someone. I heard yesterday, I don't know how much of it is true, but I heard yesterday that in the Mar-a-Lago case, the classified documents case in Florida, that someone is already flipping.
Starting point is 02:35:35 Someone's already cooperating, at least with regard to the obstruction, the destruction of video charges, things like that. So it's a very common practice for prosecutors to use that. As far as what Trump does and how he approaches it, I do think there is a feeling among many that they can't possibly afford, many people associated with him, they can't possibly afford the legal fees that this requires to fight this. And he is raising unprecedented amounts of money for his campaign or through his campaign and you know his legal
Starting point is 02:36:06 defense fund money isn't hurting so you know there probably are some concerns about whether or not he can provide money to co-defendants and and what that does if that looks like obstruction because they're not cooperating but he could certainly go out and say these people are patriots you need to support them and help them just like you're supporting and helping me. I do think there are things he could do to do that. It's dangerous. It's unprecedented legal issues we're dealing with. This idea of trying to these other co-defendants, because they're just caught up in issues that many of them have no control over. They're just trying to do the job, do a job the best of their ability. That's right. Yeah. And it's not good optics even for the politics to let these other guys go to jail because
Starting point is 02:36:59 they can't afford a lawyer or bail. That's something that's not very wise. You know, when you talk about the documents case, I don't know, what is your general take on this? I'll tell you, I look at the Dikemits case. To me, that seems like the only one where they have a clear violation. And yet again, you know, why it is selective prosecution. They don't appear to be interested in anybody else violating these laws.
Starting point is 02:37:21 I mean, technically, he appears to have violated. I haven't seen any lawyers, uh, that came up with a plausible defense for it. Dershowitz as hard as he tried said, well, maybe the documents were already declassified and maybe he didn't know it. That's the best he could come up with. But you know, the, what everybody sees is the fact that no, they haven't come after Biden or Hillary or anybody else about these things. And so they still see it as a lawfare against him, you know, weaponized legal attack against him, even if he technically did violate it.
Starting point is 02:37:55 But what is it from your position? Because you've been involved with military trials and things like that. I'm sure that, you know, classified security and things like that have come up sure that classified security and things like that have come up in the past. What is your opinion about that particular case? I think my frustration with that case is it is an example, I think, of politically targeted and selective prosecution. Because here's the issue, you're really dealing with two different laws. You're dealing with the Espionage Act that goes all the way back to World War I, Woodrow Wilson,
Starting point is 02:38:27 which is really what they're charging him under. But it was never designed, it was never intended to go after the President of the United States. There's another law called the Presidential Records Act, right? The Presidential Records Act, which really is what's supposed to apply
Starting point is 02:38:41 to presidential documents and the requirement to archive these documents for historical purposes, but there are no criminal penalties in the Presidential Records Act. So in the past with other presidents, everything's been handled. They've had to turn over documents under the Presidential Records Act, but they were allowed to keep things again under that act for personal historical reasons. So it really is a selective prosecution issue. So yes, technically,
Starting point is 02:39:06 if things that President Trump believed were covered under the Presidential Record Act or believed that he was allowed to take, even maybe his attorneys advising him thought it was okay for him to take, but they weren't technically declassified yet, yeah, there could be some technical violations of the law. But that, again, goes back to one of those issues of what was the intent of the law when Congress passed it? And is a prosecutor twisting the intent of the law and using essentially a technicality to try to come after a political opponent? And I think the answer to that is yes. Yes. And you go back to that Espionage Act that you talk about, Woodrow Wilson, I think the 1917 Espionage Act. And I remember very clearly talking about how
Starting point is 02:39:45 the Obama cohorts, which are essentially, you know, what's around Biden at this point in time running his administration. But during the Obama administration, they charged more people in his eight years, they charged more people with the 1917 Espionage Act than all of the previous administrations combined. And so it is a favorite tactic of theirs to use the 1917 Espionage Act than all of the previous administrations combined. And so it is a favorite tactic of theirs to use the 1917 Espionage Act. So it's got his fingerprints and that whole group all over that thing. But yeah, it truly is amazing that it's gotten to this point. But my big concern with it, again, as you pointed out,
Starting point is 02:40:23 there's some very dangerous precedents that are being established and it is also being used to intensify this tribalization and this polarization and everybody's getting ready to fight over this stuff. And, and it is coming up to, um, I don't know if you pay attention to the fourth turning or not, but it's something Strauss and how talked about in the early nineties, the guys who came up with the names, millennial and everything. They looked at a cycle of about every 80 years, about every fourth generation,
Starting point is 02:40:52 there'd be a turning in society where there would be a major restructuring of all the different institutions, usually accompanied by a financial crisis or and or war, you know, and, and the previous ones were world war two and the great depression. And prior to that civil war, prior to that, the American revolutionary war, you know, and the previous ones were World War II and the Great Depression, and prior to that, Civil War, prior to that, the American Revolutionary War. They went back 500 years in American and British history. And so we're at a time where the people are really kind of primed for this, and this seems to be the flashpoint, in my opinion, what they're doing here with Trump.
Starting point is 02:41:23 It truly is amazing. But I don't know. It's great to talk to you. And is there anything else on your mind you'd like to talk about? Homeschooling, anything like that that's happening? Well, you know, I think one of the things that I think you would be interested in being aware of, and I think something we need to keep an eye on, is a trend we're seeing with regard to, it affects all parental rights, but it particular can affect homeschoolers. Um, it's this, um, there was a story that came out this week, um, where Pennsylvania that's where, where I live,
Starting point is 02:41:55 where I practice, um, local law, they, they engaged in a training program. So the state of Pennsylvania created a training program in partnership with the university of Pittsburgh. And what they did is they put out training materials that say essentially if the parents are homophobic if the parents are opposed to their child transitioning that could be a danger they could be a threat and you should consider whether or not it's appropriate to remove a child from the home in Pennsylvania. Okay. So it's big news that I want people to see because there was a lot of attention that
Starting point is 02:42:30 was paid to, you know, states on the West coast, like Washington, who came out with laws that specifically had legislation on the books that says that's a reason, you know, not allowing a child to get an abortion or, you know, opposing an abortion or opposing, you know, medical treatment, opposing you know medical um treatment so-called medical transgender treatment child mutilation puberty blockers those things that that could be a threat to the child well other states now and we're seeing this in pennsylvania we've the training materials have now been released they're publicly available just no one was paying attention you have your local county social workers being trained to look for people who have religious beliefs that talks about traditional
Starting point is 02:43:10 religious beliefs that oppose this and the danger and threat that may make to a child. So when we talk big picture about homeschooling, the biggest, you know, continued, uh, drum that I will beat is homeschool your children or get them into a really good small christian private school do everything you can to do that because the cases we have seen in pennsylvania the cases we'll continue to see in pennsylvania will usually involve some sort of an interaction with a public school counselor teacher or, that starts a child down the path of confusion that these individuals will play into their mental illness. They will drum that up, and then you will see this, and then all of a sudden, you know,
Starting point is 02:43:56 the county is knocking at your door and removing your children. So I'm not trying to be alarmist on that, but it's something we have to pay attention to. Yeah, as a matter of fact, that's another level up. I just talked about this week about Massachusetts where they had, I think it was yesterday I talked about it. They had a couple who wanted to adopt, and so they were going to get into the foster care program and adoption program. And as part of that, they realized that they were Christians and that they were not going
Starting point is 02:44:22 to go along with the LGBT agenda and that type of thing. So they kicked them out of the program. So there's a lawsuit happening there, but what you're talking about there in Pennsylvania is even worse. That's coming after people who are parents and taking the kids away from them simply because they don't go along with the LGBT agenda. And as you point out, it's going to be the schools that are going to kind of act like the Stasi informants, you know, saying, well, this is what we see, you know, sending child protective services, so-called, and to attack the parents, isn't it? Wow. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. So homeschool your kids, get them in a good private school, a good Christian school, a small one that you know what's being taught, that you understand what's happening. The other thing I tell parents all the time, particularly homeschool parents, is pay very careful attention to who your doctor is.
Starting point is 02:45:09 Yes. Your primary care physician, people miss this completely, but your primary care physician, your doctor has a critical role in all of this because you have progressive doctors, you have clinics that won't take you as a patient. If your kids don't get every single vaccine as soon as, you know, as soon as they're born or otherwise, but you also have, you know, these clinics that will push this medical mutilation of children and feed into these things. And so you need a really good primary care physician that at least understands and is sympathetic to your religious beliefs and basic parental rights and that's a that's a good buffer against the county against the state or otherwise when it comes to protecting your children and protecting your family so that's the other note of
Starting point is 02:45:54 encouragement i would have for folks that are out there is pay attention to who your doctor is be very careful about that that's real important advice yeah because they can become the informant to get you into trouble if you don't do the vaccines and that type of thing. And that is something a lot of people don't think about. And it's getting harder and harder to find doctors like that because they're setting up the, you know, they've taken over the institutions and they're the gatekeepers and they're looking for people who are going to, you know, go into their political side of things. And then they heavily push this as part of the medical curriculum as well.
Starting point is 02:46:28 It has always been about parental rights. I don't know if you saw the article about Michael Ferris, the Homeschool Legal Defense Association. Washington posted a detailed article about him, and they focus on parental rights because he's understood that parental rights is at the essence of all this stuff, homeschooling and everything else. And so, uh, that is really going to be where the fight is going to be. It's going to be about parental rights. Well, it's always great talking to you. Uh, again, Davis Shantz and his website is yontzlaw.com. And, um, uh, it's great to have somebody talk about not just doctors, but to talk about lawyers who look at things from a Christian moral perspective.
Starting point is 02:47:08 And therefore, they're going to try to uphold the law as it is written. It is great to talk to you. Thank you so much for coming on. Hey, thank you, brother. God bless you. Thank you. God bless you. We're going to take a quick break, and we'll be right back, folks. Using free speech to free minds. It's the David Knight Show.
Starting point is 02:47:42 As a matter of fact, let's talk a little bit about the parental rights thing. I think that is key. I think it's been key for a very long time. And I just started talking about this yesterday and we ran out of time. And I want to pick it back up with this Washington Post article where they said, you know, here's Michael Ferris. He started a college, the Patrick Henry College or University or something. And he's also created the Homeschool Legal Defense college, the Patrick Henry College or University or something, and he's also created the Homeschool Legal Defense Association, the Alliance Defending Freedom. But they said his big influence has been outside of the courtroom,
Starting point is 02:48:14 and they pointed to the fact that he's been pushing with established Republicans the idea of parental rights, and it is something that is hugely successful. If you look at the success of Youngkin in Virginia running on that, regardless of whatever else Youngkin does and whether he really does walk the talk or whatever, and again with DeSantis, what these are ultimately about, DeSantis' popularity that he's called sanctimonious for by Trump, that ultimately is about these parental right issues. They said Ferris told the Post that he supports the continued existence of public schools,
Starting point is 02:48:52 abhors the idea of using them or any other form of state power to impose his religious beliefs on others. He said, do I want as many people as possible in the country to come to Christ? Yes, I do, he said. Do I want to use the government to accomplish that? I would absolutely oppose that with everything in my being. His parental rights agenda, he said, reaches beyond creed, and as more people embrace those ideas, he believes his patient strategic mantra, take as much ground as you can at the moment, he believes that that is paying off.
Starting point is 02:49:30 In 1980, the oldest of his 10 children, Christy, began attending a kindergarten and elementary school in eastern Washington state, giving he and his wife their first and only experience as parents of a public school student. And that lasted for only about two months. After that, they moved to a different part of the state and they enrolled Christie at a private Christian school. But even there, he said, they became concerned that their daughter was being unduly influenced by other six-year-olds and of course, you know, by teachers like we just saw with this, um, don't tread on me kid, right? I mean, he's at a classic, uh a classical education charter school, Hillsdale College,
Starting point is 02:50:08 and all the rest of this stuff, and he gets a teacher like that. So in 1982, they began homeschooling part of the vanguard of evangelical Christians rejecting the secularization of American society. His wife, Vicki, the family's primary educator, would devote the next 33 years of her life to lessons at the dining room table. Let me interject here and say that I've never talked to anybody who has done that that regrets it. They regret that it's over. It's a real joy. You know, we're presented these things and we're told that children are a burden to us.
Starting point is 02:50:43 Planned parenthood when they're counseling people, can you really afford this child? Do you know how much this is going to cost you to raise this kid to the age of 18? It's going to cost a million dollars or something, they tell them, as if they're going to pay it all right now, up front. They scare people with this. They tell people, you won't have any life of your own.
Starting point is 02:51:03 And the reality of this, and this is one of the reasons why so many Christians are doing it, is because they understand that the joy is in the journey. They understand that as you give of yourself, it comes back to you. And so that's the mindset that you need to have, especially towards your children. Homeschooling at the time was rare, and its legality was uncertain. The Ferris family, like many others, confronted suspicion. Ferris said a neighbor once asked one of his daughters, who was then about six, if she was learning how to read. In his telling, the girl responded by reading aloud from the front page of the newspaper.
Starting point is 02:51:43 Well, we had the same type of thing happen. I remember, you know, Travis was, um, uh, I mean, he was still like nine years old. He wasn't reading. We were reading. I was reading to him. Yeah. He enjoyed reading. Then one day he just picked up, he picked up a book, which would be junior high school
Starting point is 02:51:57 level reading. Uh, it was a GA Hinty novels and he just started reading it. It's like, wow. You know? And, and I, I kept telling relatives who were pushing us on this, I said, it's no big deal. I said, Woodrow Wilson didn't begin to read until he was nine. Albert Einstein didn't begin to read before he was nine.
Starting point is 02:52:15 This is something, this is an arbitrary thing. Don't let people put pressure on you. The scope of the sequence is going to be different for all kids. The rest of our kids, I had to grab you know, grab a book and, you know, like cram it down their throat. Don't want to read. But, you know, he, Travis just picked this thing up and ran with it. So everybody's going to be different and everybody's going to have different
Starting point is 02:52:36 things that they do really well. Other things that they don't do really well. You know, some kids are going to read well, they're not going to do math. Well, vice versa. Other things like that are going to happen. Anyway, as I point out, and they were talking about this because of the conference
Starting point is 02:52:54 that had been given to them that he had a couple of years ago talking about parental rights. Ferris's uncompromising positions gained him a following among conservative Christians who helped him win the Republican nomination for Virginia lieutenant governor in 1993. But because of his views on education, especially his assertion in a 1990 book that public schools are, quote, a godless monstrosity, unquote. Does anybody question that today?
Starting point is 02:53:24 It became a drag on his general election campaign, and now we have drags who are drags on everything. The prominent Republicans refused to endorse him. Let me just say this, that, you know, what he has done in the last 33 years, I think is far more, far better than anything that he could have done as lieutenant governor or governor in Virginia. You know, God does work in different ways for us.
Starting point is 02:53:52 Sometimes, you know, we follow a path and those doors are cut off. That doesn't mean that it's over for us. On an October morning in 1995, when he was 44, he sat before the House Judiciary Committee and he urged legislators to pass the Parental Rights and Responsibilities Act. The bill had been introduced by conservatives in Congress, but Ferris, as he acknowledged in his testimony, was one of its authors. He wanted Congress to decree that political rights are fundamental, according them the same high level of deference that courts show to freedom of speech and to worship. Confusion abounded among judges over how they should balance the rights of parents against the duties of school officials and social workers, he contended.
Starting point is 02:54:35 He said, we're simply clarifying a right that exists, a right that comes from God. Our children come from God. Our rights as parents come from God. And he's absolutely right about this. And one of the organizations that he created was parentalrights.org. And they had a briefly, it was very brief, it was only a few sentences long,
Starting point is 02:54:57 to establish the fact that parents, not the state, own the kids and make the decisions about them. And because we did not do this, he saw this coming. He knew it was happening. Why? Because the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child that has now been signed by every nation on earth except for the United States.
Starting point is 02:55:15 And yet in the United States, it's been done de facto by judges, typically. And now you see it being done by schools, by woke medical practitioners, as David Shantz was saying, various things like that. It is this idea that they directly challenge that children belong to the parents, those who can protect them. And I'm going to play for you again. This is one of a couple of commercials that I did about 15 years ago for parental rights org talking about the primacy of parental rights it's called self-evident certain truths are self-evident we're endowed by our
Starting point is 02:55:56 Creator with rights certain relationships are also inalienable family was the first institution created by our Creator, and the family is the fundamental building block of every healthy society, and every just government. But government and family are two different authorities, or spheres, with different roles and different responsibilities. Each authority is uniquely suited for a particular task and doesn't do the task of the other well. Families have traditionally been assumed to be acting out of love in the best interest of its members and have been left alone unless proven to be abusive. But a new attitude has been cultivated by those that believe children should be raised by the village and not by their family.
Starting point is 02:56:39 This approach to children and their families has been spelled out in the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child. The UN Convention assumes government responsibility for all the needs of children and transfers responsibilities and rights from parents to government. Government is seen as capable of providing everyone to the child and as responsible for instilling correct values, their values, into children. Parents are mentioned in the UN Convention only as problems for children to be protected from, or as mere advisors to their children, so long as their advice is not too strong or coercive. Children are encouraged to form their values independent of their parents.
Starting point is 02:57:17 But nowhere is there a sense that they would ever need protection from a government. This troubling document has been ratified as a treaty throughout the world, with the U.S. as virtually the only lone holdout. The U.N. Convention on the Rights of the Child is about 16 pages. On the other hand, the Parental Rights Amendment is only three short paragraphs. It's a simple restatement of what has until recently been what every culture, every government except authoritarian governments, saw as the rights of parents.
Starting point is 02:57:47 The Parental Rights Amendment would strengthen the Constitution to protect the family by explicitly stating self-evident truths about an inalienable relationship. Find out what you can do at parentalrights.org. Well, I don't know if that's still a website. I can't check it to see if it's still active or not. All I can say is that he was way ahead of his time, and he's done great work.
Starting point is 02:58:15 And this profile, to attack him and to raise the alarm that parents actually think that they have rights that are superior to the state, This is where we are now. It is a full court press across this country. Okay, there it is. They're still there. Good. It is a full court press.
Starting point is 02:58:33 Every institution now is coming after parental rights. And we have to be very careful about that. Again, you know, when we look at this rising push towards a civil war, they want us fighting over Trump. Let's fight over saving our kids and protecting our kids. If we're going to have a fight, let's start there. This is the guy who created the vaccine. This is the guy who locked us down, who shut up our kids, who put masks on our kids. Let's not have a civil war over this guy. And yet he goes on with Glenn Beck,
Starting point is 02:59:05 a guy who, when he first ran for president, Glenn Beck was rolling his face in Cheetos, making fun of Trump. And you have people like Glenn Beck and people like Shapiro, Mark Levin. All of them hated Trump when he said he was going to do the right thing. And then when they realized that he wasn't going to do the right thing.
Starting point is 02:59:26 And when they realized that if they would latch on to this MAGA demographic, they could become rich beyond their wildest dreams. They have now moved around. And so he's back on with, um, Glenn Beck, even though Beck was making fun of him. Uh, what, uh, eight years ago? And Beck says, well, you said about Hillary Clinton that you were going to lock her up, but you didn't do that. And so he said, when you became president, he said, we don't do that in America.
Starting point is 02:59:56 It's just not the right thing to do. And he says, but that's what they're doing. So do you regret not locking her up? And if you're president again, will you lock people up? And he says, well, the answer is you have no choice. Because they're doing it to us. I never hit Biden as hard as I could have. But, you know, this is what they're laying this down for.
Starting point is 03:00:17 And as we wait to see what is going to happen to Joe Biggs today, there's his prison sentence. I remember Joe Biggs wearing the InfoWars t-shirt, Hillary for prison. And he was at a Trump rally and he's opening it up and Trump is like, this guy and everything. But it was Joe who went to prison, not Hillary, for following Trump, for pushing this guy. Will we follow him to prison? Will we follow him into a civil war? This is my concern. So, again, they're trying to get 30 years on him.
Starting point is 03:00:54 We'll have to see today what happens with Joe. But I pray that God will work in his life, will bless him, will protect him. Let me just say, Tony is going to be doing the show tomorrow. Very excited to have Tony doing that. We're going to have on Labor Day, we're going to also take some time off. I need a break. And so we're going to just do a replay on Monday. And tomorrow will be Tony and it's going to be a great show. I just know it will be. But thank you so much. And I wish all of you a very happy and restful Labor Day weekend. We'll see you on Tuesday.
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