The David Knight Show - 3Jul23 BEST OF — Raw Milk, FBI Whistleblower, Bottom-Up Revolution, Preparing for Nuclear Aftermath

Episode Date: July 3, 2023

Today, some of our best interviewswe will be LIVE tomorrow, Special 4th of July Show Liz James on raw milk — health benefits and why government bans itStephen Friend — FBI whistleblower on the politicized Biden Dept of JusticeDr. Shiva Ayyadurai — a bottom up revolutionJack Lawson — what to expect from a nuclear or EMP attack and preparations to survive outside the blast zone Liz James First BigAgra came for raw milk teaming up with FDA. Now the intention is to stop ALL dairy & meat for "climate". Liz James lays out the history and the health benefits of raw milk and gives an update for BlessedByHisBlood.com a cooperative to help people take charge of their blood transfusions to avoid mRNA and other health risks NOT being screened by corporate blood providers. Raw milk begins about 10:40 minutes into interview Stephen Friend What does a politicized police force do to a whistleblower? You'll be amazed at the vindictive and vicious dirty tricks they tried. But Stephen Friend kept his integrity and kept out of jail. And now he's written a must-read book, "TRUE BLUE: My Journey from Beat Cop to Suspended FBI Whistleblower" just released yesterday. Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai, Shiva4President.com and TruthFreedomHealth.com, joins to talk about his independent campaign to direct people to a bottom-up revolution against the entrenched establishment Jack Lawson Jack Lawson, CivilDefenseManual.com, on what to expect from nuclear attack or an EMP (electromagnetic pulse). How to prepare, how to survive the aftermathFind out more about the show and where you can watch it at TheDavidKnightShow.comIf you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-showOr you can send a donation throughMail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @[e-mail] App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Money is only what YOU hold: Go to DavidKnight.gold for great deals on physical gold/silverFor 10% off Gerald Celente's prescient Trends Journal, go to TrendsJournal.com and enter the code KNIGHTBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.

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Innovate has you covered. Visit Innovate today. Innovate. The IT solutions people. Using free speech to free minds. You're listening to The David Knight Show. Thank you. ¶¶ © transcriptF-WATCH TV 2021 joining us now is liz james i have talked to her before about her blessed by his blood as a cooperative i want to get get that out there again and get an update as to how she's doing because i got a lot of people who are concerned about contaminated blood whether you're talking about transfusions and being able to stockpile your own blood or other things like that even to the extent you've got the world's first unvaccinated dating service now launching in hawaii people understand the issue here and they're looking for some solutions so i wanted to get an update to that. But last time when I talked to Liz,

she also talked about how she was very involved in raw milk. And that is also something that's very important. So I wanted to talk about that, the adulteration to our food supply. So joining us now is Liz James. Her organization is Blessed By His Blood. Tell us what the website is for that. Good morning. It's just www.blessedbyhisblood.com

okay good good and and so tell us uh how this is going right now where are you right now and you're working to uh try to get some legislation through in various places to have a right to um make decisions about uh blood you know your own blood and what's going to happen in an operation or an emergency? Yes, sir. So the legislation that we've started actively working on, it's actually kind of interesting because designated donor or directed donor blood or autologous blood, which is meaning giving yourself your own blood if you have enough time to do so. Both of those things are currently legal and have been around for decades. You know, when I was in my, I think, very early 20s, I had a minor surgery that, you know, every time you have a surgery, they say, well, there's always a chance you might need blood. And so my mom and my brother both donated on my behalf back, you know, this was 30 something years ago.

And so, but they've been doing this for just years and years and years and years. However, it is coming to our attention that a lot of hospitals are starting to deny patients the right to do this. Yeah. And which is another stab at um taking away medical freedom right that's right so so our approach is this um we're just trying to defend our medical freedom and basing that on the 14th Amendment section one where we have um this is part of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. There's not anything specifically in the Constitution that addresses medical

freedom because that's part of the 14th Amendment. The other thing is, it there was a 1990 Patient Act and that Act protects the patient's right to do to do and say and request and have the authority of what does and does not occur in their own body so that's something that when somebody is denied directed donor use or autologous donation, that's something that is not being respected. The third thing is there's an internationally held and again, religious freedom. There's an international law that protects a patient's personal or not a patient, anybody's religious freedom and personal belief system. So that's another personal right that is being trampled on. So all worse than...

I know that in Europe, I talked to a guy who was in Switzerland, and he was saying it's getting impossible for people to use their own blood or to have donors, people that they know, people in their family, set aside blood if they know that an operation is coming up. So we have these things that are on the books, you know, the Constitution, laws in Europe, and yet they're being disregarded in many ways. So it's important for us to strengthen that, isn't it? You know, and I'll bring this up. I mean, and George and I have been working together, his organization, SafeBlood, which is international versus the United States. The United States actually has the strongest

constitution in the world, right? I mean, it's a constitution that's been upheld for much longer than any other country's constitution. And the more that we allow it to be chiseled away, the closer we get to being like these other countries, the United States actually, even though we're having difficulty, there's less difficulty. And there are lots and lots of doctors who are standing beside us and saying, we will write for the order. Now, the problem is happening more so in the hospital, in the actual hospital, where they're saying, well, we won't do this. Because hospitals are being more and more driven by large corporations, a consolidation, and they're being driven by the accountants and that type of thing. I had a listener who just... And insurance. Yes, insurance companies.

I had a listener who just sent me something, I think it was last week, said that he had to go in, he had a heart issue, and he said the hospital nurse said, would you like to set aside your blood in case we have to do an operation at some point in the future? He was okay, he was taken out, but they offered that to him to store his own blood. So he was excited about that, gave us the name of the hospital. You know, there are some hospitals out there because not all the hospitals have been subsumed into these giant corporate structures where they have a big network and then become all about money only. And that's exactly the type of hospital we're looking to work with is the ones that are not corporately owned and are willing

to work with the patients on a basis like that. And they are definitely out there i mean we've we um had even though we're not officially up and running our soft launch is march 1st um but we have already done we did one um match already and um we were able to do that successfully in the chicago area so and that's and that's just with people who you're talking to people who have, um, reached out to us expressing an interest. We were able to find donors for this young family, um, in need in the Chicago area. So that's good. That's great. Yeah. It is interesting. I talked about this earlier. There's a study that just came out talking about how they have verified that they find

mRNA in blood 28 days later. Dr. Peter McCullough has talked about it being found much later than that. And so this is not a theory. This is not a conspiracy theory. These are studies showing that this stuff persists. That's a whole other issue with the vaccines. But the reality is that it is there. It is a contaminant.

We all know what the mRNA does in terms of creating the toxic spike protein that accumulates in your body that damages organs and all the rest of the stuff. So it is very important that we do have that kind of clean blood. And we know that the blood supply is not being screened for that, right? Very much so. And you may have seen, too, in the last couple of weeks, they've released some of the restrictions they had on blood donation, which makes it become all that much more interesting. One of them, I believe that mad cow disease has been taken off as a problem. Number two, they've taken...

It used to be gay men could not donate. Now, if they're in a... At this year's Cheltenham, glory rests in the lap of the gods. Curses. Alas, our hero hasn't placed. But there are still divine offerings up for grabs, with all NoviBet customers getting a €10 free bet for every day of Cheltenham.

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Right, right. Well, and that's an interesting thing because i mean no matter if there's a homosexual relationship or a heterosexual relationship you can never speak for the other for the other party right that's right so so there's that to deal with and then number three the other interesting thing is um if for the red cross if a transgender individual comes in and says that they are well if they're a man and they say that they're a woman they have to be identified as a woman and therefore that's an issue because then there's no there's i guess there's no screening for whatever on that, knowing that four out of 10 transgender men would test positive for HIV. Yeah, because as we see, it's all part of the drag queen story time hour, what people are finally starting to come to their awareness about that.

It's a very, you know, as one person said, hey, look, heterosexual moms, I'm a conservative, but I'm a drag queen. And let me tell you, this is a highly charged community in terms of drugs and sex and all the rest of the stuff. And that's going to show up in the blood supply. Yeah, that's absolutely right. I guess maybe some of these people could come in and they could say, I may be a type A according to what your test is, but I identify as type B and you better put me down as that. You never know. I mean, it seems like anything, anything is possible apparently in politics and, um, in industry. Right. That's right. Uh, well, let's

talk a little bit. That's good. So the organization is Blessed by His Blood, and you're about to go live in March. And is it.com? Is that what you said?.com? .com, yes, sir. consent to use our own blood or blood of people that we know. And it's not something we should take for granted because when you look at what is being done in the medical profession now, it's all being politicized and it's a very dangerous situation. So we have to start to fight for our rights of medical freedom and choice. But let's talk a little bit about food, because last time you were on, you talked about your involvement with raw milk. And of course, it's something that's been going on for quite some time, as there's all these different regulations that some places will

allow it to some degree, but they have restrictions even in the most liberal places. I know back in Texas when we were living there that you could buy raw milk, but they had to be very careful about how they sold it. You had to go to their place. They couldn't buy it in the supermarkets. They had to go to the farm or you had to be part of a cooperative. That's the way it operates in some states and things like that. What has your experience been with the raw milk battles? You know, I think I should first give a little bit of my back story on how I found raw milk

because it really is pertinent to the conversation. You know, being trained classically as a pharmacist, you know, one of the things that they talk about is is food safety right so i when i graduated from from pharmacy school and and in addition to that i have a degree in animal science as well so again we were trained the same in animal sciences as well because that involves food science and when i about 10 years after i graduated from pharmacy school and i was i was in practice i had a little accident on our farm here and um i ended up breaking my wrist and i had a cast on my on my wrist i went back to work just had the cast on my

wrist and i had two women come up to me independent of one another over the over the course of a couple weeks and say oh you have a broken bone you really should look into drinking raw milk and the first woman that said that the back you know my little voice in my head was like oh she doesn't know what she's talking about raw milk is dangerous you know the second woman you know i believe that's the Holy Spirit when, when you get affirmation confirmation from a second independent source, that's something you really need to look into. And so I was like, okay, that's, you know, two messages that I need to look into this. And so I did a little digging and I found a book called

The Untold Story of Milk by Ron Schmid. I don't know, it was probably written in the 80s. And started, I read it, and it reads like a textbook. And that led me to read a couple other books. And by, but by the time I was done with The Untld story of milk, I had no doubt in my mind that we, the consumers, had been buffaloed by the American Dairy Association and and the food industry in terms. And it's quite an interesting story when you get into into it. And I think you can never take a policy without first understanding the history behind the policy and how it how it got there and so how did we end up with homogenized pasteurized milk you know how did that actually come to pass right um so a little history on that um when when people started migrating to the united states and they started settling in large cities you know chicago detroit

new york all these big cities they were living in tenement housing the majority of them you know because these are poor people fleeing their country or looking for a new, better life and ending up in these, like, basically slums. And the first thing that happens when you're in a slum situation is there ends up being a lot of despair and depression, right? And if you read any sort of history in that time period, in that environment, you'll find there's a lot of alcohol. Right? I mean, because alcohol is used to escape and erase what's going on, you know? And so there were distilleries all over these large cities making, you know, making a killing on, um, on alcohol, but they were bringing in, um,

grains to make the alcohol, right? Well, somebody got the bright idea of why don't we bring the cows into the city? So they bring cows into the city and have these indoor cow dairies slash feedlots that are inside buildings right next door to the distilleries with holes in the wall and so after the grain is used the mash is left over from making the whiskey the bourbon whatever then the mash is shoveled through the wall so they don't have to go on trains to go to cows or wherever and these cows that have no sunlight, no grass, that are living in filth in dark, unlit buildings are eating the mash, which is not a healthy product and they shouldn't be eating grains like that. Anyway, and then they were using those cows, milking those cows to give milk to the people. So as far as the people who were doing all of this, it was a win-win situation in terms of making quite a bit of money. For the people who were on the receiving end, the people who were living in the slums and the tenements not so much so i mean they were they were drinking milk that was very unhealthy you know because the cows were not healthy themselves they weren't in

an environment that was healthy and so louis pasteur of course and people were getting sick from the milk you know rightfully so because the milk was not healthy and Louis Pasteur came out with the pasteurization and of course that's a whole nother topic about you know Pasteur versus Beauchamp right probably aware of that we won't go down that rabbit hole but pasteurization they started pasteurizing the milk so that people wouldn't get sick well when you pasteurize milk it it does get rid of the bad bacteria and in situations like I just described that's not a bad thing because there is bad bacteria in unhealthy cows however if you have a

healthy cow that lives outdoors in the sunshine, is drinking fresh water, eating good clean grass, etc., you have milk that has the ability to, if you were to introduce a bacteria into a quart of milk, if you were to introduce bad bacteria in a quart of milk and then go back and look for that bacteria later, you would not find it because the enzymes and the antibodies in that milk digest it and protect and keep the milk clean and healthy. So... At this year's Cheltenham, glory rests in the lap of the gods.

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Innovate, the IT solutions people. You know, we have the ability to do that, right? Mm-hmm. The disadvantage of pasteurization too is that when you heat up milk like that and you you destroy the enzymes you just destroy the good enzymes that we are all we all need we should all be eating enzyme rich food you're causing a tremendous drop in the vitamin C content of milk vitamin b6 and vitamin b12,

that drops dramatically when you start heating up milk like that. You also change, and this is very important, you change the physical and chemical state of calcium and other minerals that are in that milk, which makes milk less valuable as a food, you know? Yeah. Oh, yeah. And, you know, you're talking about this, I'm, I'm thinking of the, um, the giant pig skyscraper that they're building in China.

I have to call it, call it a pork scraper, you know, but, uh, you know, just think about that as we were talking about the implications of that, you know, putting pigs in a giant skyscraper, uh, you know, what could possibly go wrong? You know, they were never meant, they were never meant to live like that. I know. And that kind of reminds me, you know, when you're talking about what happened in Chicago, that's kind of the early stages of big corporate food production today where they don't really care what goes into it.

I was early in the program. I talked about the fact that the FDA has approved all these heavy duty chemicals that have been identified in other countries as carcinogenic. And they said, we don't care. So it's allowed in our bread. It's allowed in our food. And maybe they put it in because they want to try to strengthen or to stabilize dough so they can work with it better with their machines in terms of processing it. They don't care what the health effects are. And the FDA gives them a pass on all of this stuff.

And that's really, when we look at how the FDA has handled drugs, they're just as bad with the food stuff as well. I totally agree. And we were in Europe several years ago, and we went into a store that carried Americanized products. And it was very interesting because even things like, you know, Froot Loops, you look at the Froot Loops in Holland, the dyes were natural dyes, like on the box but if you look at the fruit loops in the united states you know it's red dye number four you know yeah we look at mexican coke right the mexican they use instead of high fructose corn syrup they use uh regular sugar and then um they've got it in a glass bottle instead of an aluminum can and on and on you know it's like we get the worst of everything but it's also

the cities like you're talking about there in Chicago. It made me think of what Thomas Jefferson said about cities. He said they're a threat to the health, the wealth, and the liberty of man. That's right. I think one of the most impactful books I read in high school was The Jungle

by Upton Sinclair. And that really, that book really emphasized the plight of these immigrants and the terrible situation that they lived in, in this tenement housing. It was just awful. So, but back to the milk, when you have, you know, so you have pasteurized milk and so then they, the benefit of that is then they could sell rotten milk, really. I mean, they could sell milk that was full of, of, um, you know, pus and, and just really awful things that, um, raw milk, you know, you you can't you can't do that with raw milk um but with pasteurized you can so you you've increased your you don't have to throw anything out right that's right so so there's that well here's the problem and it also has a longer shelf

life well as these milkmen were taking milk around to all the women all the housewives and women the the cream would as it settled on the top that's one of the way housewives judged the quality of the milk the color the texture how old the milk was because you know anything about about milk and you let the cream rise to the top if it sits there for a couple of days even if it's even if it's good it will turn into like a cheese product almost like a thicker product so you can really tell the age of the milk by the cream that's on top well the housewives say I don't want this milk. It's old milk. And so they invented the homogenization process.

And the homogenization process is an interesting thing because people say, well, if my milk is flash pasteurized but not homogenized, is that okay to drink? And my answer is no to that because there's something that happens to the milk molecule as well in the homogenization process. And in the homogenization process, they shoot whole milk through these little stainless steel tubules at a very high rate of speed and it flips a leg on the milk molecule. And so in that process, then the cream no longer rises to the top, right? So now those housewives cannot tell how old the milk is because it's scattered throughout the milk. They've got nothing to go by other than the date on the carton yeah which is where we live right right which is which is and that's the expiration date not the date that it that it was

um retrieved from the cow right right so so but in the homogenization process what when you have that flip with the molecules or the leg on the molecule, it literally changes the structure of the milk molecule, which makes it turns it. The original milk molecule is actually cardioprotective and actually prevents the plaque buildup in your arteries and veins. And when you have homogenization of milk, it does the opposite and it causes inflammation in the arteries, which then causes plaque to start forming. And so it actually, with the homogenization, it actually creates not just a neutral product. It actually creates a dangerous product. Yeah. Wow. That is amazing. Yeah. It was fascinating to me. And I was like, oh my gosh, this is incredible. And mind you, I was learning all of this before I ever even jumped into the truth about big pharma as I started to do, this was literally

my gateway into learning the truth about the relationship between food and big pharma and then later insurance and other things as well and how it all ties in together. And these big industries just feed each other with no regard to um the consumer yeah you know it's interesting if we look at it a lot of people of course raw milk is very expensive but if you think raw milk is expensive uh take a look at what your doctor charges or what the pharmaceutical companies charge when you get a a problem with something so instead of having something healthy you can have something that is cheap and is going to endanger your health. That's really where we are.

And there's a political aspect to this as well. There was an article that I just saw and the, it was from actually pirate wires.com. I don't know how I found this, but it was talking about milk wars and, and how this has become a real fight, a real contention. You can see this in the Netherlands. First, they're coming for the cows, right?

They want to shut down the cows, and then they're going to come for the rest of the— that's their point of attack at the dairy farmers. They're not coming at it because it's a factory farm or because it's not healthy and we don't want to have homogenization and pasteurization. They're coming at it because we're going to put you on something that's completely synthetic, that we completely control. And so in a way, there is a very important political dimension to this in terms of milk wars. If we can push back against big pharma, big food, and the FDA on this raw milk thing, that's going to be a big win

to protect our food supply, isn't it? Yeah. And these wars have been, the fight for food freedom has been going on for a long, long time. I mean, I've been, I've been involved with Weston A. Price. I'm sure you're familiar with that organization and the Farm and Ranch Freedom Alliance. That's another one for lots and lots of years. And it's so very important. And, you know, like you, I started out, I found a raw milk source and we bought, we stood in line and bought raw milk at drop-off locations for probably five or six years. And then we ended up getting our own cows. So I, because I, you know, I was concerned about, you know, what if they ever take this away from us, then what? And, and in other states they have, I mean, for goodness sakes, it's legal to have marijuana in Colorado, but illegal to have rum.

So, I mean. They've got our best interests at heart, don't they? I mean, they just, they love us. Irony, yeah. The irony of it all, right? It's just amazing. Looking for reliable IT solutions for your business? At Innovate, we are the IT solutions people for businesses across Ireland.

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really kind of laissez-faire about it or is it always under some sort of restriction and control well it's it's interesting to um i haven't looked at the states recently and they're the laws are constantly changing so there's been victories and there's been losses. I would say probably 20% of the states it's legal. And then I could be wrong on that. That's just a off the head guess based on my memory. But then there's other states where it's legal, but very, very restricted um interestingly california is one of those states i was listening at a conference in december and um they said well you know you can buy raw milk at a grocery store but it's only one very very very, very, very large farm.

It's been authorized. Yeah. Kind of what you're seeing in a lot of these places where they, quote, unquote, legalize marijuana. They'll have incredibly high taxes and it'll be restricted to their friends who are in the business. Correct. Correct. It's for the small person. It's still not feasible to do. And then there's other states that you can sell raw milk to be for pet consumption only, quote unquote.

And, you know, what you do in your own house is your own business kind of thing. Yeah, we've got lots of dogs. I mean, I don't know. I haven't looked at the laws here in Tennessee. We have a friend who has a farm, and he's got a friend who's got raw goat milk and that's really good stuff. But, you know, haven't looked to see if we can find, you know, raw cow's milk here yet. I don't know what the laws are here. So in case that's against the law, that's just a hypothetical. I was just talking about that.

Well, you know, the other interesting thing about cow milk is there's, maybe you've heard the discussion on it, it's, you know, A1 milk versus A2 milk, the genetics of milk. No, I haven't heard that. What is that? What is the difference? So, in genetics, of course, there's A1, A1, A2, A2, and then there's A1a1 a2a2 and then there's a1a2 um and a a1 milk is um in in people who understand milk in terms of raw milk is considered inferior milk and i shouldn't say in terms of raw milk this is in terms of milk in general and the reason it's considered inferior is because there are some components of A1 milk. And this is milk that comes from the, let's see, comes from cows

in predominantly in Canada, the United States, New Zealand, Australia, and Northern Europe. Those are predominantly A1, but to take it a little step further, it tends to be the Holstein cows that are A1, which is the predominant milk, the black and white cows, that's the predominant milk found in commercial milk. Because they're big producers and they can get a lot out of these cows for their money, right? So we should have a take on the Chick-fil-A sign. We should have the black and white cows eat more, drink more A2. Leave me alone. Well, kind of so the jerseys and the jerseys and guernseys which are

the the like the brown cows that you see those tend to they're not always but they tend to be the a2a2 genetics which is the good genetics for for um the milk here's, here's the interesting part. These, if you are drinking A1, A1 milk, aside from the pasteurization and the homogenization, which they can do to A1 or A2 milk, it doesn't really matter. You get the same effects on those, but with A1 milk, you, you are aggravating conditions such as heart disease, type 1 diabetes, autism, schizophrenia, allergies, intolerance, autoimmunity, or autoimmune situations, etc. So, you know, once you start diving down the rabbit hole of milk, you're like, oh, okay, so I want to drink raw milk, but then I want to find an A2A2 producer for the most, for the healthiest milk.

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So, yes. Now, you know, if you're going to buy, you know, commercial milk, that's better than, I mean, it's still pasteurized and homogenized in that form, but at least it's a healthier for your genes milk. I've never ever seen that. I guess that's something like an extra thing that they put on there saying, you know, if it's organic or something like that. Say A2, I've not seen that. Yeah, you might.

Now that your mind is aware to it, your eyes might see it when you're in the grocery store. That's interesting. Yeah, you know, I've talked to in the past. I remember one case I interviewed the guy at length. He was someone who did not start out in a family farm. He came to it later in his career because he wanted better food and things like that. And he started raising, he was in Michigan, and he started raising a European brand of pig that could stay outside. It had hair. It wasn't hairless.

And, you know, but it was not a feral pig. But by the laws of Michigan, he wanted to be outside because he wanted to have it, you know, free-ranging and things like that. But the industry had set things up and said, you know, if your pig isn't ha things up and said you know if your pig has has got isn't hairless and um you know it's it's going to be labeled as a feral pig and we're going to destroy them and so he was in this big fight with the state of michigan and and the trying to shut him down his uh pork was not white meat you know it was the other white meat, well, it wasn't white meat.

It was red meat. And he said it tasted very different. It was very good. But, again, that's another example of how big food will operate with big government to shut people down. You know, it is. think the dairy thing as we look at you you've always had this collusion between big food producers and industrial producers working with government regulatory agencies to get rid of their uh their competition that happens in every industry you know they regulatory capture and they use the government to get rid of their competition but now we've got this other aspect

of it like we see now in the netherlands and at the forefront of all of that is the cows and dairy. And they want you to have zero dairy and zero meat and zero other things. And so they're using dairy and cows. They're using that now. The environmentalists are using that to shut down farms in general. That's the tip of the spear. Yeah. You know, and you, you know, what's interesting, of course, they're now they're making, or

they're wanting people to eat this synthetic meat, this fast growing lab meat. Yeah. Biopsy burgers, I call them. Well, that's exactly right. That's exactly right, David. I was just going to say, it's like, imagine eating a tumor. Yeah. I mean, that's, that's, that's essentially what you're, what you're eating in,

in, uh, this type of situation. So, yeah. Um, tumor kebab. Exactly. Well, it's, it's very interesting. And, and again, it just shows how much corruption there is, but it's at the forefront of, um, of all this stuff. And, um, and it is very foundational. And, uh, you know, as you point out, you can go from something that is harmful to your health to something that is beneficial to your health. I imagine, uh, vitamin D when they keep the animals and these, uh, the, the cows and these factory dairies, they probably don't get too much sunlight. So they probably don't have as much vitamin D in their milk either. Do they? Correct.

Correct. And, you know, for the rest of my story, and this is where it gets really interesting too, is at the time of my accident when I broke my wrist, I was 33 years old and I was diagnosed with osteopenia. I think I mentioned that in the first time we chatted. And tell people what that is. How is that different from osteoporosis or thin bones or fragile bones?

Yeah, osteopenia is the precursor to osteoporosis. So it's basically I'm set up to be osteoporotic. And at that time, you know, 33 is pretty young to be told that. And I was told, well, you're probably just a few years away from needing to be on medication. And, you know, my pharmacist brain was like, oh, no, I am not taking that medication, which was one of the reasons I was interested in finding an alternative solution and the beginning of the looking into drinking raw milk well fast forward to um 15 years when i was 48 i had an accident and it was a pretty significant accident i nearly lost my left foot

wow and um i was charred i got charged by a bull and he hit me from the side um on below the knee threw me in the air and when i landed um the my tibia which is the the bigger lower leg bone it came out it had come out of my leg oh compound and well here's the thing, David. The bone didn't break. It just came out of my leg. Whoa. So you took care of that osteopenia issue, right? Correct.

Yeah. So it wasn't a compound fracture. It just came out. Wow, that's amazing. Yeah. And now the fibula, the little tiny bone on the outside of the leg, that did break. And I, it did sever, I did sever four tendons. So, I mean, it was a, it was a significant injury, but the fact that that tibia didn't break, the, the doctor was like, for a hit like that, for the bone not to break, we need to do another bone density scan.

So we went back 15 years later, I did another bone density scan. And at that time, you know, the lady who was doing the scan, she's like, I'm not a doctor. So I can't, so I can't tell you what your, what your scan looks like. She said, but your bones are amazing. And, and she said, um, now what are you taking? And I said, I just drink raw. I just drink raw milk. Cause she's looking at my, at my history, right? My history, osteopenia. And, um, I said, I just drink raw milk and I do take magnesium too. And I'll, I'll touch on that in just a second.

And she said, she said, well, she said, my eyes say that you've got the bones of a healthy 18-year-old female. Wow. Wow. Yeah. That's a lot. It doesn't have the side effects other than maybe a stray bull to drink raw milk than the medication does. What were some of the side effects of the medication if you'd been taking that for 15 years so um uh jaw necrosis um you know you hear about that all the time when you like if you go to the dentist and they ask you

if you're on fosamax or or bisphosphonate you know you've probably been asked that before um that's when your jaw your jawbone actually. The same thing, it puts you at a higher risk. It's kind of interesting. It puts you at a higher risk for hip fractures, but what you're trying to prevent is hip fractures. Yeah, exactly. You see that all the time with pharmaceutical drugs, right? You take it for condition A,

and one of the adverse effects is that it increases condition A. And you look at an aging population and how important it would be for people to have something that's going to help them with osteoporosis or osteopenia or something like that. Well, and not just that. Like if you're drinking raw milk, raw milk will actually help lower your total overall cholesterol. You don't want your cholesterol to be too low. But what happens is it will increase your HDL, your good cholesterol, and start decreasing your LDL conversely. And you don't want your cholesterol to be too low. I mean, people who have cholesterol under like 180, their total cholesterol, those are the ones who ends up in, in dementia units.

So that's another, that's another topic for another day. But, um, yeah, people have been able to help people with, um, uh, beginning stages of dementia by giving them things like coconut oil and things like that. So that's exactly, That's exactly right. I mean, our brains are 50% cholesterol. So imagine trying to deprive the brain of cholesterol, and you can guess what will happen. Let's talk about, you said you also supplement with magnesium as well. So as raw milk and magnesium gave you, you know, you went from osteopenia precursor to osteoporosis to having, as one lady said, the bones of an 18-year-old.

Tell us about magnesium. How does that do? So, you know, I'llate, chelated magnesium. There's magnesium gluconate, magnesium oxide. Those two are my least favorite. And those are unfortunately are two of the most commonly found ones in like your mainstream nutritional centers. You know, they're just not, they're just not well bioavailable the malate and glycinate looking for reliable it solutions for your business at innovate we are the

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But here's the issue. We should have a calcium to magnesium ratio that is close to one-to-one in the body. And because our diets are so low in magnesium, our current farming practices have stripped the soil. Yeah. There's not enough magnesium in the soil. Therefore, there's not going to be enough magnesium in, in our vegetables, which is where it predominantly comes from fruits and vegetables. When we're in, and then of course there's the standard American diet where people are just eating junk. Right.

Which is certainly doesn't have magnesium in it. It doesn't have any food in it. Yeah, exactly. But there's a lot of fortification of calcium in the diet, even in junk food where they put calcium in. And then if you remember, you know, if once a woman gets older like make sure you take your calcium choose or make sure you're taking your calcium so so you end up with a calcium to magnesium ratio that's closer to three to one or four to one instead of one to one and when that happens then you actually have

an increased brittleness of bones and you actually have an increased brittleness of bones. And you also have an increased hardening of the vascular system, calcification of the vascular system. magnesium in and get your ratio closer to one to one instead of this three to one or four to one that is um counterproductive and you know doctor you know i'm not a doctor i'm a pharmacist but but it is a travesty that people are are being told to take more calcium with no regard to taking magnesium. They should be taking, they should be taking magnesium first. They're creating a problem or aggravating a problem that's already there by telling them to do more of something. They should be balancing it.

It's about ratios. It's not about. And that's why it's important. If you get vitamin D to make sure that you're also taking vitamin K, some vitamin Ds come with K as well. It can do the same type of thing. It can lead to calcification if you don't have the K with it. So the magnesium is very important. As you point out, tell us again the sources that you, the forms of it that you think that you said citrate is good, but it can cause you if you're, if you are, unless you are predisposed to constipation, it might cause some diarrhea.

What are the other forms that you would recommend of magnesium? My preference is like malate or glycinate. There's another one that if somebody needs to work on their vasculature, the orotate is a is a good one um occasionally you can find magnesium products that contain or take glycinate and malate all in the same cap capsule or tablet that's great because you're you're hitting the body in a little bit different way um all the way around so that's um that's preference. I personally would stay away from magnesium oxide, magnesium gluconate. I mean, I don't find them very helpful. You know, it's interesting. I got a factoid here from this article talking about the milk wars. They said in 1945, Americans drank about 45 gallons

of milk a year. Now they drink only about 11, most of it in their coffee. And they said that analysts are predicting that cattle farming will be obsolete by 2035. The reason they're predicting that, of course, is because that's what the globalists want. Yeah, they're pushing for that to happen. But again, I think it's interesting and probably we could go back and see the rise of osteoporosis in our society as well as we push these things out, as we go into chemicals and adulterated food. Talk about what they're replacing it with in so many different ways is vegan milk, soy milk, almond milk, cashew, all these different things. What is your take on those types of milk? Well, all of those milks are different, and so I can't really put them all in the same category. I mean, soy obviously is probably my least favorite, number one, because it's genetically modified number two is because it is um highly

estrogenic right and it's called a phytoestrogen and um there is a reason we're i mean this is one of the reasons we're losing so many so much testosterone in our world um because we're we're because a lot of men, their estrogen has gotten so high, their testosterone can't compete. And soy is just so pervasive now in our diet. I remember years ago when I would watch the news shows and Archer Daniel Midland was always talking about soybean this and soybean that. I mean, they put it in everything. They put it in everything, and it's just not a healthy product,

especially in the quantity that we're exposed to now. There's, you know, nut milk. I mean, some people cannot drink regular milk. I mean, that is true. I will say though, well, yeah, but I will say this. I've had a number of quote unquote lactose intolerant people in my house and I've served them a glass of milk and I have net I have yet to have a lactose intolerant person be intolerant to raw milk yeah yeah I've heard that before as well yeah so there is so there is that you know we need the healthy fats that are in this kind of product healthy healthy milk, raw milk product, goat milk is another one.

I haven't done a lot of research, but I am very interested in a rarer milk called this camel's milk that I understand is very, very good for kids with autism. So, yeah, yeah. And there's a couple of farms and you can order camel's milk for kids with autism. That's very important. That's a real epidemic. As a matter of fact, we had a listener who, and I'll just mention his name again, Daniel Jeremiah. They're really struggling with their child, have been for years, damaged by vaccines, has autism.

So he asked that we keep him in his prayers. But I had not heard that about camel's milk. I hope he hears this. Yeah. Yeah. But back to the nut milk, I mean, I think it's always important to think about where the initial product came from. If things are not treated organically, any milk that you make is going to be concentrated. So if there were pesticides, herbicides, fungicides involved, you just got a hefty dose of all of the above, right? That's true. That's true. So that's something to think about. And almonds, from what I understand, unfortunately, even the organic ones are sprayed with some sort of

chemical because they have a problem with almonds across the board. So, um, for that reason, I'm a little, I'm a little leery of almond milk in general. Uh, I guess my favorite or go-to would be oat milk or coconut milk. Well, that's interesting. And it really is the food wars in general and the milk war in particular is at the forefront of this. Did you see the study that came out a few weeks ago? I say study. I should say the fake um, the fake news, but it literally is a study by Tufts university that put Cheerios ahead of, um, all beef patties

in terms of, of, um, nutrition. Yeah. Or maybe I think the best thing you could get would be a spoonful of Eriosios from Mike Tyson. We're talking about that now. There was a joke about Cheerios back when he bit the Vander Holyfield's ear, and now he's putting out pot candies and calling them Mike Tyson bites. So I guess that'll be the next thing they advertise as being good for you, right? It combines everything. You've got the pot as well as kind of a cheerio uh aspect to it yeah that is amazing it was probably

paid for by general mills don't you think yeah well it actually was it was paid for by by several food companies and that's the thing is like that's the way they do it whenever i read a study the first thing i do is scroll to the end yes and. And I look and see who paid for it. We've seen that over and over again. All the pharmaceutical companies, I got three different pharmaceutical companies with competing products. They all do a study. And guess what? They're always the best and better than brand X and brand Y.

Each one of them. They can rig it for sure. Thank you so much, Liz James. Again, blessedbyhisblood.com. Look for it. That's going to be very important to fight for our purity of being able to get our blood as well as our food. Thank you so much, Liz. Appreciate it. Thank you, sir.

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It's the David Knight Show. Welcome back. And joining us now is Stephen Friend. I have talked about Mr. Friend and what he did in terms of standing up to the weaponized, politicized FBI, coming after people after January the 6th. And, of course, what began with January the 6th is now metastasized to the Department of Justice and the FBI being concerned about parents who show up at a PTA meeting or at a school board meeting or things like that. This is the danger of this. And I'm always interested in talking to whistleblowers. I've talked to John Kiriakou many times about blowing the whistle on CIA torture program, which ultimately bore the fruit of lying us into the war in Iraq. I've talked to Joe Bannister, who was an IRS agent who was an investigator,

part of the criminal investigation unit, carried a gun. And he did that for a number of years. And then he came across some things that people were saying. He said, well, how do I answer this? How do I answer this concern that they've got about the income tax code? The supervisor said, don't talk about that. What? When you look at people who are honestly concerned

about the law and about justice, this creates a real conflict of conscience for them. And of course, many had that same kind of situation presented to them throughout 2020 and 2021 with the mandates and the lockdowns. And do I give up my job? What do I do? I'm violating my religious principles if I take this type of thing. These types of tests are always coming to us. He's now written a book. It came out yesterday, True Blue, My Journey from Beat Cop to Suspended FBI Whistleblower. And it dropped yesterday. You can find it on amazon.com, Barnes and Noble, all the regular places that you buy books. Again, it is True Blue. The author is Stephen Friend, who joins us right now. Thank you for joining us, sir. Thank you very much for having me today. And thank you for being a whistleblower. I really do appreciate it.

I know that's a difficult thing. I know that it had tremendous consequences for you and for your family, and I want to talk about those. But first, tell us, what was the tipping point? You had worked as an FBI agent for, what was it, 12 years, I think? No, actually, today would have been my nine-year anniversary date of my hiring. I'd worked in law enforcement before that, so I've got about 14 years of law enforcement experience at a state, local, and federal level. So what was it that you saw in this that I can't go along with that, is what you had to say?

Tell us a little bit about that. Yeah, I didn't really have a moment where I sat down and said, I'm going to become a whistleblower. I just had a concern about the cases that were in my office that were January 6 related. And to take a brief step back in my background, I joined the FBI in 2014. You have a huge, tremendous volume of cases. And as a result of that, I became very familiar with the FBI's rulebook for how to work cases and brought that with me when I eventually transferred to Daytona Beach, Florida, where I am currently. And once I was reassigned to work domestic terrorism cases in my office, I was reassigned from child pornography cases and told that those were no longer going to be resourced. Those were local matter.

Correct. What kind of cases were you seeing at the Indian reservations? I mean, it was a lot of drug trafficking and stuff like that and, you know, violent crime, things like that. Yes, it's violent crime, major offenses. You know, I've worked a lot of aggravated assaults and homicides, sexual assaults, child molestation. You really do the work of a city violent crime detective on the reservations. And it's an interesting jurisdiction that the FBI has to take on due to some weird federal laws

that we currently have on the books. And it basically precludes the tribal police officers from investigating some defendants who aren't Native American and then even from bringing heavy charges against others. So they could only really charge misdemeanors for some fairly significant crimes. And the FBI has to come in and fill that gap. Wow, that's interesting. So you were a police officer. And then when you started working for the FBI on these Indian reservations, you're still kind of doing police officer type of work that you're doing that. But when you became an FBI agent, they'd first put you on child pornography and things like that? Yes, I accepted a transfer in the summer of 2021. And my understanding

was it was going to be a position in the office to work on pornography cases and human trafficking cases, which are sort of a weird kissing cousin to the Indian reservations within the FBI because they're very hard to staff. Just people don't want to work it. It's sort of the violation that you can actually beg out of because it's so mentally taxing for a lot of folks. But it also gives you a great opportunity to work with local law enforcement, which is what I believe is the prime directive of the FBI. I wanted to work with local detectives, deputies from the sheriff's offices, the police departments, and learn from them and then basically partner with them. And if we could bring something federally, then I was all in to do that. But the end of the fiscal year happens and the decision was made to

reallocate resources and manpower, which is another major problem within the FBI. They basically have a quota system that they try to hit every year. And when I saw the January 6th cases, it was immediately apparent to me that the FBI is not following its rules with those cases. Preston Pysh, M.D.: And I became concerned about, not because I had any sort of political ideology attached to it. I'm not a simp to one side or another,

but I'm a law enforcement professional. And when I go to trial, I want to make sure that my case is buttoned up as properly. And the fact that these cases have been just rubber stamped as they've gone through the District of Columbia doesn't mean anything to me. If my name's at the top, I want to make sure my case is buttoned up. And I knew for a fact that these cases were not in, they were departing from the FBI's rules for how they managed the cases, which was interfering with how we were able to actually do our investigations.

We were waiting for directives from Washington, D.C. when we were on paper supposed to be in charge of our own cases. Wow. So it's coming straight from D.C. Your concern is, like a prosecutor, I don't want to take this case to court because I could lose, right? And you don't want to have a long streak of losses there. But you're concerned about that. And this is coming straight out of the District of Columbia. They're identifying people and, uh, you know, telling you to do what to them. Well, there, the January 6th case should be one case with however many subjects, uh, there are, they're already being investigated, but very early on in the process, a decision was made that they were going to open up a separate case

for every single person. And then instead of running those from Washington, D.C., where the incident happened, they were going to assign those cases to the field, to all the various 56 field offices around the country where the subject lived. So if you lived in Florida and you went to the Capitol that day, the office in Florida would be handling your case. And you could make the case that it is in compliance with the FBI rules. It's a little atypical, but it certainly presents a statistical narrative that domestic terrorism is on the rise significantly because now you have thousands of cases and they're spread around the country as opposed to a one-time four-hour incident at the Capitol, which could be attributed to a Black Swan incident. And I compared it to the September 11th World Trade Center. So if you look at police officers in the

line of duty deaths, there's a spike in 2001. And that's because there were a significant number of officers in the towers who died. That doesn't mean that nationwide there was a spike in violence against police officers. It's a statistical anomaly. And the FBI has now perpetuated that and has brought it the last three fiscal years and argued in front of Congress the need to enhance salary funding. And then on top of that, the bosses in each one of the field offices get bonuses for hitting the quotas because there is a demand for domestic terrorism cases. It is the charge du jour that we are seeing now from the political leadership in Washington. So the FBI, if you ask for it, you shall receive.

And because of the quota system, the FBI that's been around for the last 10 years, it's not really a mystery why the number of domestic terrorism cases has quadrupled in the last 10 years. Yeah, yeah. It's like any other bureaucracy. They're trying to make a case to grow. Uh, they, they, they succeed by growing their little fiefdom. That means a bigger head count.

That means a more responsibility and a higher salary for everybody at the top. If they, if they do that and the big game that they always play is statistics. And we've seen these types of games played by a lot of different agencies. Uh, the FBI has played these kinds of statistical games to show that you've got to increase their department. But again, they're like every other bureaucracy. And there's a federal bureaucracy of investigation if you look at it that way. We have seen this, Stephen, we've seen in the past. The FBI has, in my opinion, been weaponized against people on the left and

conservatives said, that's right. You know, we don't like those people. Let's go after this. And they kind of bent some of the rules with that stuff in the past, but now the politics has, the pendulum has swung in the other direction and now they're starting to come after people, uh, who are conservative. And it really does seem like a politicized issue here. But before we get into that, I'm jumping ahead a little bit here. Tell us a little bit about some of the incidents that you had that really bothered you, because you mentioned one of them in particular that you went to interview somebody. Tell us a little bit about that. Yeah, the cases that were in my office were basically investigated,

and there wasn't much to do on them, which is is again, they were sitting in Washington, D.C., our own cases. We weren't really in charge of them. So I didn't have a whole lot of investigative work to do. I really had only a couple of things. One was I was tasked to go and interview a gentleman who was said to have been at the Capitol that day and had been inflicting violence against police officers uh the uh the the folks in washington dc had done a a work on his work up on his phone gps and that was negative the facial recognition that they had was negative uh and it was an anonymous tip so there was really no way we could actually bring a successful prosecution forward even if the man were to confess because he could just be a crazy person. But nevertheless, I was told that I didn't have the option to just say it shouldn't be resourced. And I went and contacted that gentleman at his house and wasn't going to waste his time,

but it was very direct and said, bring it to the Capitol on January 6th. And he responded that he was not because that was the day of his son's funeral. And that is just one case of the collateral damage of this giant dragnet that the FBI has now inflicted on the population. And we see that even with righteous subjects who may have committed crimes on January 6th. And in the case with my office, where I eventually came forward and said, I didn't want to participate, was an individual who's going to be charged with a felony, but had pledged to be cooperative with the FBI. And when he had spoken to the FBI, a year and a half had transpired between him being recontacted and they were going to send SWAT to his house to arrest him. And that is, yeah, I'm a SWAT guy. I mean, I was send SWAT to his house to arrest him. Wow. Wow.

And that is, yeah, I'm a SWAT guy. I mean, I was on SWAT for five years, but I know that that is not in keeping with the tradition of law enforcement. You should be using the least amount of force necessary. That's an unnecessary risk to the public, to our personnel. And I voiced my concern because I felt like the person in the room the day before Waco or the day before Ruby Ridge. And we can Monday morning quarterback those incidents into perpetuity and say, well, if I had been there, I would have voiced a concern. Well, I was there for that incident that I foresaw the potential to have another incident like Ruby Ridge or Waco.

And I wanted to voice my concern. And unfortunately for me, for my, for my profession, professional future with the FBI at every level, I went to three different levels of management. I was rebuffed and I was told that I had a really great reputation and that I was risking my career by expressing my concerns. And, and I, you know, I voiced that I had an oath of office to upkeep. I had specific training where at the FBI Academy, they send you to the Holocaust Memorial Museum and they send you to the MLK Memorial. And the purpose of that is to really hammer home that unless someone throws the flag in law enforcement and law enforcement just puts their head down and follows orders that can

only lead to civil rights atrocities and genocide. Yes. And it was my sincere belief that that is what the FBI is on course to do at this point. But again, management didn't share my sentiment and actually pushed back when I said that I had a note to upkeep. They told me I had a duty to the FBI and had to follow orders and was being insubordinate. Wow. And we've seen this even with military who were told that they had to take the vaccine. And they said, well, you know, we've got a lot of problems with that. You know, religious liberty, for example, is one of those that I have. And people say, well, you have an obligation to obey orders.

I said, no, I have an obligation to defend the Constitution. And that's what I'm doing by defending my rights. You're very right to point out how, you know, Ruby Ridge and Waco blew up because of the excessive use of force and so many people died. I wanted to get back, though, to this person that they reported to you that was an anonymous tip or something that somebody had accused them. There were so many people who were flagged because of geofence information, because of the phone companies and Google and all the rest of them turning over people's records if they were anywhere in that area. We had Bank of America go even further, and they gave a list to the FBI, presumably, of anybody who had any financial transactions around the Capitol, but not necessarily buying anything there at the Capitol, but anywhere in Washington, D.C. or in the suburbs of Virginia or Maryland. I mean, they had a very big net.

Anybody that bought anything went to the FBI. And presumably the FBI then looked at their political background and looked at, um, uh, you know, whether they owned guns or anything like that. And it was that type of circumstantial stuff that, uh, got people caught up. Did you have any situations like that, that, that kind of wild circumstantial geofencing or transactions? And then, oh, by the way, this person's also a conservative, maybe owns a gun. So let's go visit them.

Was that what you were saying too? I know that the individuals in my office saw that, but when it came to my involvement, I was moved over in October of 2021, and all of that background work had already been done. But that is very consistent with everything I've talked about with the other agents who investigated those cases, and not in my office, but in a multitude of other offices. And I think it's sort of in line with, we were warned in President Eisenhower's farewell address about a military industrial complex and a scientific industrial complex. There's now an information industrial complex that exists with the ease of which digital information is shared. And there's a collusion that has gone on between the federal government and private industry to share that information. And it is circumventing the constitutional protections.

And they sort of think they've found a hack. But nobody's in the room saying, well, if you're doing the bidding of the government, regardless of whether or not they've asked you to with the proper service, proper subpoena or a search warrant, you are in fact an agent of the government. And that needs to be challenged in court. It needs to be upheld and it needs to be confronted at a legislative level by our elected officials. I'm glad to hear you say that. I've talked for the longest time about, you know, everybody likes to talk about the deep state, the dark state, all the rest of the stuff.

It's the deputized state. And we've seen it, as you talk about information, we've seen it with censorship. They deputize the social media companies, but they also deputize Bank of America to do the search warrants for them. And the pretense that they've got, of course, with it, Stephen, is that they always go back to the rulings where AT&T was spying on people. And they said, well, you know, we want to get this information from them. You got the pin number stuff and it's data that belongs to you. So would you like to turn it over to us since, you know, we give you a nice monopoly of all the phone

lines and all the rest of this stuff? Sure. Yeah, we'll turn this over to you. Well, happy to be of help to you. And so that's really kind of, you know, part of, there's a lot of different things that are going on to violate the constitution, due process, search warrants, and all the rest of this stuff to say that, well, this data belongs to the corporation. The corporation is voluntarily complying with us and we're not actually doing it. Well, now we see that there's all these back channels where they're actually telling them who they wanted to come after and all the rest of this stuff. This is very concerning. And I'm glad that you're talking about this because I think as a

whistleblower who has seen this kind of stuff happening, you've got a lot of weight and a lot of integrity for standing up to this. Tell us a little bit about how, again, you raised your concern and they said, well, gee, you know, we really would like, you got a great job here and a great work history, would really hate for you to ruin it. I mean, how did they really respond to this? Was that kind of it? And then what happened? Yeah. So the real seminal moment for me was the day before the arrest operations were going to be happening. I was summoned to my headquarters in Jacksonville. So I drove up there and had a long conversation with two assistant special agents in charge of my office. I expressed all the

concerns here that I've spoken about and said I believe that we could be people's... Oh, did we lose? Okay. Well, shoot. Okay. We're going to try to reestablish contact there. Has it dropped or still connected? Okay. Drop it and then try to reconnect with him. And, uh, we just lost our, our line there. Uh, but I do want to ask him about that and I want to ask him, is he back? Okay. Oh, good.

Okay, great. We lost a guy. I never lost you there. Sorry. Oh, you didn't. Okay. All right. Good.

Well, we froze up on, on our end for some reason. I'm sorry. You were in the middle of talking about how they responded when you told them that you weren't good with this. If you can back up a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, I, I, I expressed that to them. We had a long conversation about it. They, during that course, that meeting, several remarks were made to me that were credibly concerning, especially when I said I have an oath of office and they said I had a duty to the FBI. One of the bosses in the room said that police officers were killed on January 6th by the protesters. And when I said that that was not actually accurate, he told me I needed to go and re-examine the facts. I proposed alternatives that we could use to bring folks into custody. I mean, it could just be a phone call to an attorney, surrender. We could send local law enforcement. We could use surveillance to interdict somebody. I didn't

feel that SWAT was necessary, but all those were turned down. And at the end of the meeting, I'm a pretty straight shooter so i said you know fellows uh where where were we left with this and i was given the assurance that uh this was a going to be a long process uh this is the federal government and things take a really long time uh and i went on my merry way and three hours later got an email that told me that i was insubordinate and I was ordered to stay home the following day and report myself as AWOL. So I never actually had the opportunity to be insubordinate and not show or something like that. I was ordered to be AWOL, which I did and was docked at Days Bay

before returning to work. And then subsequently had a meeting with the next level of the chain of command with the special agent in charge, wearing which she told me that i was a conspiracy theorist and that i represented a fringe belief and that i needed to do soul searching to determine if i wanted to have a future with the agency and then after that she told me she had already referred me for investigation to the fbi's inspection division and to the security division. Preston Pysh, MD, Wow. Jim Grantis, MD, And at that point, I kind of knew that the writing was on the wall because the FBI has retaliated against whistleblowers using a very nefarious process. And that is the security clearance. Because in order to work at the FBI, you need to have a security clearance. So my security clearance was suspended 30 days after my initial disclosures that I made to my

bosses. And the reason that it was suspended was not because I blew the whistle or raised concerns. It was because they determined I accessed the employee handbook improperly. And therefore, they had to do a full investigation of that and walk me out the building. I was placed in a unpaid yet still employed status, which is a strategy that they use to essentially wait people out and hopefully, I hope that due to financial stress that they will resign and then they can attribute any sort of accusations that you make as being the you know the concerns of a of an angry ex-employee and uh and not taken seriously but unfortunately for them um I'm pretty stubborn and I'm also uh pretty financially savvy I had done a fair amount of saving in preparation to be fired during the COVID vaccines. I knew that they were developing

a registry. And I told my wife, look, we're going to have to prepare for a time that I'm going to be looking for a new job. So we had sort of a war chest built up. Didn't anticipate having her lose her job, which did happen a few weeks after my suspension under some suspicious circumstances. Her Facebook account was also shut down immediately. And I was denied my training records, which I would need for outside employment. I put in two requests for outside employment, which you're entitled to do when you're unpaid. And they denied both requests. My medical information was leaked to the New York Times. And they also told the Times that I was accused of shooting a firearm in my backyard. And finally, I received communication from the FBI Inspection Division

that attempted to put a gag order on me. And I was told that I was not allowed to speak about anything that was happening as far as the investigation of the allegations against me with anyone to include my family, friends, friends attorney which is an illegal gag order so this is just a long train of humiliations and abuses on the that came from the fbi and ultimately culminated where i had an opportunity i had a job offer from the center for renewing america they had a fellowship come available that i applied for submitted samples of my writing and interviewed for and was actually offered a position for and ultimately accepted the day that I testified in a closed deposition for the absolutely amazing. The fact is that they were the ones who were insubordinate. They were insubordinate to the constitution. They told you you had a duty to the FBI.

You got a duty to the constitution. You are supposed to be subordinate to that. And yet, you know, it doesn't surprise me that they would call you a conspiracy theorist because of course, that's what the FBI coined that phrase, you know, in terms of JFK assassination. But it is truly amazing to see the links that they will go to in order to set up dirty tricks and to, again, leak what they think is derogatory information about you, make accusations about you that aren't true. Take your shut down your wife's social media account to try to gag you with all this stuff. That truly is amazing.

But I've seen this before, Steve. I talked about how I've interviewed whistleblower for the CIA, John Kiriakou and Joe Bannister from the IRS, but of course I also talked to some NSA whistleblowers, Thomas Drake, William Benny. Thomas Drake, when you mentioned the fact that they, you know, accused you something about the employee manual, they tried to get Thomas Drake sent to prison because they said that he had taken home documents with him.

He denied that he had them, but you know, the documents that they had were things like securities, my friend, it was a opening employee trainer manual. And, uh, you know, it was ludicrous what they even considered to be documents that were, uh, of concern. And then the fact that they tried to set him up with those and tried to put him in jail. Did they ever come after you with any kind of criminal charges? I mean, you're mentioning things about, you know, well, he had accusation of shooting a firearm in his backyard and other things like that. Was it even a setup to try to say we're going to take your security clearance and then try and then wait and see if you uh latched a hold of something that had a security classification on it was that part of it they they tried to set me up to be charged

with a process crime for lying uh to an investigator so i had to submit to a compelled interview with the fbi security division um Division. And one thing that you have to know is in the meeting that I had with my two assistant special agents in charge, I wanted to memorialize. And I was law enforcement. I live in the state of Florida. It's a two-party consent state. There's a law enforcement exemption to recording conversations. Consulted with state certified law enforcement beforehand to confirm that I was in the good to do that. I might be outside of the FBI's policy, but policy isn't the law. And I recorded the conversation that I had with them. And when I submitted to this compelled interview with the

security division, they asked me point blank, did you record the interview? And I answered, honestly, yes, I had. And there was very apparent to me, and it's sort of like one magician trying to impress another magician with a trick. When you're a trained investigator, a trained interviewer, I kind of knew what they were doing. And the natural follow up to that question where I had given them some information that there had been some pretty damning statements made during this interview, this meeting that I had with these executives that were trying to compel me to violate my oath of office. You would think the natural follow-up would be, Steve, can we get a copy of that interview? And they never did that. They were hoping that I was going to say no, and then they could cut the search warrant for my house and charge me with lying to a federal investigator. Because in going back and having listened to that meeting that I had, which I actually have transcribed and it is in my book, so anybody who gets a copy will have access to. And then the FBI tried to get me to redact during

the publication process, but I'm not going to do that. It was very clear to me that they were recording the interview as well. They were trying to divorce my ability to come forward as a whistleblower from my orders to submit to participating in those operations. And they repeatedly kept saying, so what you're telling me, Steve, is you're refusing to do your job. And I kept saying, no, I'm doing my job. So I think that they have a recording of it they know what was said and they weren't concerned about what was said they were just worried about the exposure that the fbi has because the fbi is their prime directive is uh

protect the image protect the shield that is the reputation that is is all that matters to the fbi well i'll tell you what their reputation is in the toilet now. It's the things that have happened in the last few years, especially. That must be a very interesting transcript because I can imagine, and that is what I've always said about all this Trump stuff. I said his real jeopardy is going to be a perjury trap, you know, blathering about something and carelessly talking about things. And, uh, and so, you know, that, you know, things like how they come after celebrities like Martha Stewart, you know, they got her for lying to the FBI, not for insider trading. So this must've been a real mental battle to try to carefully phrase these terms in ways that they could not get you with a perjury trap.

It must be a fascinating read. Of course, that transcript is in your book, True Blue, Stephen Friend. I imagine that would be worth the price of the book right there to see that back and forth with you and these interrogators trying to entrap you, you know, any kind of an error that you would make, you know, any kind of factual error. They would come after you as a crime to lock you up. It's truly amazing. And it is frightening for the rest of us because you know how those rules are

and you know how they're operating, but the rest of us don't. We're babes in the woods, right? Somebody is accused of something and our first instinct, if we're innocent, is to say, yeah, I don't mind talking about this. I've got nothing to hide. I'm innocent. And it's that kind of an entrapment that is really a danger for the average citizen, isn't it? Exactly right. And we've gotten to a point now where the FBI is no longer an objective force for good. They have weaponized the process crimes to go after people. We saw

that happen with somebody like Mike Flynn, where James Comey sent agents over to specifically get him to answer a question that lacked candor or could be contrived to have lacked candor in a way, and they could bring charges to force his either criminal charge or at least his firing from the national security advisor. And that is why we'll see these ongoing investigations of somebody like former President Trump, where they could just say, you worn an illegal necktie. And he could say, that's ridiculous. That's not illegal. I'm not going to participate in your witch hunt. And they could say, oh, well, now you've obstructed our investigation.

And we'll charge you with a process crime. Wow. Yeah. It truly is amazing what has happened. Now, you are working, since you testified, before we get into what you're doing right now with the Center for Renewing America, let's talk a little bit about the response from Washington,

congressional hearings, all the rest of this stuff. I mean, what has been the response, since this is a politicized investigation, what has been the response from Republicans, for example, to any of this, Or even from Democrats? You know, do Democrats care? Are they full on with this? What have the Republicans said, if anything?

There was definitely some appetite from some of the Republicans on the select committee, the weaponization of the federal government. Matt Gaetz and Dan Bishop both participated in my deposition. They both brought questions forward and seemed genuinely interested in not only the information I had as a whistleblower, but also other information and concerns that I have, which I feel is very vitally important to bring to not just Congress's attention, but to the American population's attention. Unfortunately, the FBI and the Democrat Party and mainstream media have all colluded and attacked the messenger. And here's the thing about being a quote unquote whistleblower. I've been a self-styled whistleblower, as I believe what CNN says I am.

It's 5 U.S.C. 2303. I followed it, the letter of the law. I made a protected disclosure to numerous members of my chain of command, the inspector general, the office of special counsel, and to Congress, both Democrat and Republican. So I've gone through a list of those. Each one of those was a protected activity on my part. I don't have to be right about my concerns. I just have to be reasonable. And it is incumbent on those authorities to take that

information and do a appropriate investigation and assessment as to whether or not i'm right and i've continued to say that i i brought that information and they could say steve you're wrong here's why and i would have said okay going back to work now or they could say steve you're right we're going to fix a problem and i said okay i'm going back to work now but instead all of the guns were turned all the energy and the resources of the fbi and the democrat party and the media were turned against myself and the other gentleman that were at the table with me when we testified last month which in fact mean can only mean one thing you you get the flack when you're over the target they are not willing to uh entertain any of the information

we brought forward which we were prepared to discuss in great length in great detail but instead uh the the members of the minority there were were happy to just pontificate for five minutes each and then accused marcus allen of uh tweeting improperly even though that wasn't his twitter account and accused me and gary'Boyle of being bought and paid for when we were given a charitable donation several months after being suspended indefinitely without pay. And we're accused of doing that by Dan Goldman, who is one of the wealthiest members of Congress. Truly is amazing. How many other people were there?

Were they other FBI whistleblowers in this testimony, or were they from other agencies? Were they all FBI people? How many were there? There were three FBI whistleblowers and Tristan Levitt, who was an attorney for Empower Oversight, who represents me. And that's an organization, 501c3, that represents government whistleblowers. And then they've been defending me as well as Marcus. So he was there to sort of be a subject matter expert and share his knowledge. He has a wealth of it with Congress. But it was just the three FBI personnel, two agents and one support staff. And we were able to present some information. I mean, obviously, I wanted to get in the more salacious information about having gone to school board meetings and gotten license plates from people as part of the FBI's effort to marry school board protesters with domestic terrorists. But to me, my project now

at this point is the integrated program management system that the FBI has and has had for 10 years, which is the quota system. That's the ticket book for the traffic cop, where there are quotas for opening number of cases and using certain tools and getting a certain number of arrests. Luke Gromen, And in order to keep the budgets flowing, there's games played, like where they will open up thousands of domestic terrorism cases off of January 6th, which is not an adequate and an accurate representation of what that actually was. And now you have the special agents in charge of all 56 field offices since those cases were spread around the country. They're all collecting bonuses somewhere in the area between

$30,000 and $50,000 because those numbers were met. Wow. Wow. That's amazing. I've covered the case of Adrian Schoolcraft, who is a New York City whistleblower for the police. And he had situations like that where they said, you know, hey, it's Halloween. I just want you to round up anybody that you can bring them back and we'll book them and we'll find out what to charge them with later.

We don't care. Just bring people in. You know, you've got to quote a type of system like that. And he started recording and uh recording other police officers once they found out about that his father was a police officer and he was a again your your book is true blue he was a true blue believer as well he really believed in being a cop they tried to punish him by making him walk a beat and he goes well that's good i think it's a good thing for me to be out there and deter crime and get to know the people in the community he didn't see that as a punishment but they eventually

came around and and um there was he had another recording that was up on the on the wall behind some books that memorialized what happened with that uh but they caught his uh went to his apartment uh the guy who was number two in the New York City Police Department, they arrested him and put him in an insane asylum. His father, who was a retired cop, found the other recording and got him out. But I mean, that's the thing. They turn against people. And when the institution becomes that level of being corrupt, exactly what do you think we should do with the FBI? I mean, is it to the point where it is salvageable? I don't think it is. I think you need to do away with the FBI entirely. And I know that sounds scary to people, but this country existed before the FBI. It can

exist after the FBI. There's a strong argument that I've been making for the last several months that the FBI is an aconstitutional uh not there was no legislation brought forward to uh originate it it was actually backdated and so the fbi was about preserving status quo not necessarily about protecting the constitution or the rights of americans uh so in the 30s 40s and 50s the fbi had to preserve the status quo went after communists. And I think Americans assumed that they were the good guys. But then the FBI went after draft dodgers, because then you can have the debate over the legitimacy of the Vietnam War. And I think there were still people that thought they were doing good work. But COINTELPRO and infiltrating the Black Panthers, there's some civil rights concerns there. And

we can jump all the way into the 21st century where after 9-11 and national security mission creeps started to occur because our military stomped down the foreign threats significantly. The FBI had to justify its national security branch existence and budget. So they started to look from counterterrorism abroad to homegrown terrorism. And that's where you saw some entrapment of Muslim Americans. And then when they ran out of those, now they've come after domestic violent extremists, as they call them, which are the conservative Americans. And you look no further than last September, the red speech that President Biden delivered at Independence Hall. He identified Republicans. First, it was MAGA Republicans. Then it eventually evolved into Republicans as being anti-government white supremacist. And two of the

top priorities for the FBI in counterterrorism are anti-government extremism and ethnic extremism parenthetically white supremacy. So you've now got the FBI preserving the status quo for a very radical left that is in charge of our government. So to answer the question about the FBI, I think that you can look to locals. I think very similar to the way we used to elect senators in this country where they came from the state houses we can eliminate the fbi and empower u.s marshals to deputize more we're there to currently do it but more local detectives in sheriff's offices police departments and allow those guys who have the local knowledge of what's going on in their town they know the usual suspects they know the crime that's going on on Main Street. They can pursue criminal cases at a federal level, local, state, however they see adequate, bring those cases to a U.S. attorney's office if it's appropriate. And that will empower the

local agencies to essentially staff the federal government and really let federal law enforcement do what's best for the locals as opposed to what their minders are asking them to do in Washington, D.C. I couldn't agree with you more. I am so happy to hear somebody give an honest assessment of the FBI. And, of course, it goes all the way back to the beginning of the Palmer raids and J. Edgar Hoover. He was a master politician. He was a master salesman, if you will. I mean, he was the one who was behind the FBI series with Ephraim Zimbalist Jr. That's how he built this reputation. And of course,

since they were coming after, as you pointed out, the communists and people on the left, everybody was concerned about them at that time. And now they have switched which side that they're on. And now a lot of people who have been applauding them are seeing this, but it's always been that way. And it's always been an unconstitutional agency. Let me ask you, because we talked about the deputized state, what about things like, you know, the Southern Poverty Law Center has been used as a consultant for the FBI in the past, pointing the finger at other people. It gives them plausible deniability. It gives more credibility to these charges, but they work in a kind of public-private partnership type of thing. Did you see some of that when you were working there? Yes, yes. Even at the FBI Academy, when we had training on

terrorism, we had to watch a video provided to us by the Southern Poverty Law Center where they ranked pro-life activists as higher on the threat level than ISIS. Wow, really? That's amazing. Doesn't surprise me, I guess, but that truly is amazing. Let's talk about what you're doing right now with the Center for Renewing America. You're a senior fellow on domestic intelligence and security service. Tell us a little bit about the organization first, and then tell us what you're doing there. Well, thank you for that. So Russ Vogt, the director of the OMB under the Trump administration, is our president and founder of this organization. And we are focused on confronting woke and weaponized government in any way we can. And my contribution to that is in this domestic

intelligence and security sphere. So bringing my knowledge about the FBI and the problems within the agency forward and producing some white papers and also some policy recommendations. And CRA liaises very well with many of the congressmen who stood up against Speaker McCarthy's speakership during that week-long event that we had in January and brings those concerns forward and has basically crafted a new budget that should be implemented on day one if power were to change hands. And I'm trying to just provide my insight there as well as advising this select committee on the weaponization of the federal government. So in a cruel twist of irony, I get to investigate the FBI who was investigating me. And they continue to just represent, you know, what this group means and speak out.

And, you know, I've just started to come around to the message of, you know, I'm swinging a hammer at a giant stone. And it might not break for the first 999 times, but on the 1,000th strike, it does. And that doesn't mean that my 1,000th swing of the hammer was what did it. It was everything along the way. And then I'll just continue to hammer away to get this message out there as many people as possible. That's right. The price of liberty is eternal vigilance and it's persistence as well. And this is such a dangerous thing with the power, the money and the technology that is behind the federal government for it to have this massive, weaponized, politicized police force is a very, very dangerous thing for all of us. I mean, we should learn the lesson from the Stasi.

And they didn't have, you know, but only a fraction of the power and the technology that is currently possessed by modern states. And if they're going to be allowed to act in a lawless way without any restraint whatsoever, then we do have essentially a much more powerful Stasi that is there. This truly is something that should be a concern to everybody, and I think it's very important that people read your book. And I hope that they get that.

Again, the book is True Blue, and Stephen Friend is the author. You can find it wherever books are sold. He doesn't have a separate website to sell that, but you can find it on Amazon anywhere that you buy your books. Is there anything else that you would like to, in kind of a parting way, to tell people in America about the dangers of this or anything else you'd like to tell us? Well, yeah, thank you. And thank you for allowing me the opportunity to share the

information about the book. You know, it's not intended to be, it's not political in any way, it's just the information being brought forward. And I certainly share your sentiment with this growing intelligence state that is now, the FBI has evolved into an intelligence agency with law enforcement capability. If there's any final idea that I just throw out into the ether, everybody wants to say that they're First Amendment absolutist, and the Second Amendment is there to support that. I think we need to start looking at our Third Amendment. And I know that that's the quartering of soldiers and kind of makes an eyebrow raise. But when we look at things like the way that big tech has colluded with government, there's not a whole lot different than a red coat

listening on your bedroom wall from the guest room than the cell phone that's next to your night table that you're charging every night. Boy, Stephen, you and I are on the same page. I have said that so many times. They're living on your computer. It's even worse than sitting on your couch asking you for potato chips. That is so good. We are in 100% agreement on these things, and I'm so glad to hear you saying that. You have so much credibility for walking the walk.

Freedom is not free. Somebody has to pay the price for it. You've paid the price for this. You have kept your integrity. You have been honest and faithful to the Constitution. I cannot thank you enough. And certainly, you are spot on in understanding what the real dangers are here, and you have the courage to speak out. I can't thank you enough for doing that. Thank you. Thank you very much. Have a great day, and God bless you.

Thank you. Again, the book is True Blue. The author is Stephen Friend. And I think it'd be worth the price of admission just to see the transcripts going back and forth between him and the FBI. Obviously he won because he's not in jail. Thank you, Stephen. The Common man. They created common core to dumb down our children. They created common past to track and control us. Their commons project to make sure the commoners own nothing and the communist future. They see the common man as simple, unsophisticated, ordinary, but each of us has worth and dignity created in the image of God.

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Fulbright scholar who has four degrees from MIT, including his PhD in biological engineering. He has started seven successful high-tech companies, providing thousands of jobs in Massachusetts. And so when we get him back, my first question is going to be, so why are you running for president when you've had so many other things that you've been able to do? But also where you can find him, we're going to be talking about the presidential race that he's doing as an independent. And that is also going to be an interesting thing. But anyway, Shiva, the number four president dot com Shiva for president dot truth, freedom, health.com is another one of his

websites and va Shiva V A S H I V A.com is also another one of his websites. Uh, we have a Reverend bill. 1960 says that Aldi may have been one of their checkout free grab and go stores. Yeah, it might have been. The thing is, though, that everybody's trying to go cashless, and they're trying to go with ID. And that's going to be one of the key things that we have to try to build awareness for. Certainly, people over 40, as I pointed out the other day, understand the issues involved in that.

But when you look at the millennials, when you look at generation X, Y, Z, they don't have any problem with the government, even putting in cameras in their home and watching them around the clock. And of course, many people have done this with the, uh, Amazon door cameras and things like that. Uh, it was one of the reasons why you get so many interesting and funny videos on YouTube because people have these cameras going on all the time. And a lot of people have been pressured by local law enforcement to turn over their feed of their ring camera or these other cameras to turn it over to law enforcement because they're viewable from, you know, if you got them hooked up to the internet, you can see what's going on in your home when you're not there. But then, of course, they can turn this over to the government or the government can just

invite itself in. You know, that's the other issue that they don't think about. All right. Dr. Shiva is back now. Thank you, Dr. Shiva, for coming on. It's been quite a while since we've talked. I've already introduced you and given your bio. Welcome.

Welcome. How are you doing, David? It's been a while. When was the last time we spoke? I forget now. Oh, it's been, I've had the show now for a couple of years, and I think it was a couple of years before I left InfoWars since we talked. So a lot of things have happened. And I talked about your long resume. Tell us a little bit about why you're running. You've got all these other things in the fire. Why are you running for president? Well, David, the number one reason I'm running for president is because the problems that America faces are very fundamental systems issues. We need a systems overhaul. And the only kind of people that are going to be able to solve that are people who actually come from people and actually care about the suffering of the American

people and who have a systems approach to solving these problems. The Democrats and Republicans, I would argue, since the last 70 years have been colluding together against the American people. When I first launched our campaign, David, the main thing that I shared was this very interesting graph. And the graph basically plots over the last you know 40 50 year period the life expectancy of all the industrialized nations all right and then it averages it into one solid gray line starting from 1980 to the present america's uh life expectancy rate is going this way all the other nations are going straight. And this is not something that's because of COVID or the vaccine.

It has to do with a history of policies that go back, starting in the Kennedy administration, which got consolidated in 1970s with all sorts of fundamental issues. And we'll talk more about that. But the end result is that the policies of both Republicans and Democrats have resulted in the fact that if you're an American, your child will live younger than you. And this is quite devastating. And it is a very fundamental graph that no one else wants to talk about, David, because it exposes all of these politicians. It exposes all of these politicians, it exposes all of the academics,

it exposes all the university presidents, all the quote-unquote talking heads, all the celebrities, all of these people who've been part of this institutional framework that has resulted in this very important result. If you're running an organization, you see a graph like that, you need to have a systems overhaul. It it's not any one issue. It's a systemic issue of a number of interconnected issues that go back to the corruption of science, go back to the fact that doctors have essentially been made to be data entry operators. You can go down the list of things that's involved, but it's fundamentally exposes the fact that those in power don't give a damn about the american people and and the reason david

is all of them running come from one of them they come from the elites so to overnight say and this is why you see people like i call them booby effing kennedy robert kennedy talk a good game or uh elon musk and all of these people talk from five sides of their mouth because they have trained people that they can say whatever they want, that they don't never have to walk the walk. They can say one thing and people just believe them because they come from above. And that's the fundamental thing that needs to be shattered, David. And I think the American people deserve one of them. They need people who actually worked hard, came bottoms up and weren't given, things by their parents, and never really had to work for anything, never had to be accountable for mistakes that they made in their lives. So that's where I'm running, because people really need someone like me.

As you know, David, I've always called things two to three years ahead, because I put in the effort to understand things from a scientific perspective, from a political perspective, from what I call a systems perspective. That's right. Yeah. And of course, that's the important part, I think, about the campaign for presidency. We have such a massive bureaucracy in Washington. But when you have the campaign for presidency, if you've got some people who are going to talk about things that are outside the normal approved topics, that's what people need to be able to hear. We need to be able to open up the lines of discussion. And of course, that includes things like being able to get in debates. We can talk about that later as well. But it's the fact that they will always talk about the same safe subjects and take the

same safe positions. You know, Dr. Shiva, when we look at what is happening on the internet now, I go back often and talk about how you had the Geospatial Intelligence Agency started being created in the 1990s as bandwidth went up. They seemed to go in and pick the people who were going to be allowed to compete, just as we see in politics. They would give venture capital funding. The CIA even came out in the open and gave venture capital funding to certain companies

and then let them compete. They had an honest competition to see, you know, may the best person win here. But they had already picked the people who were going to help them, you know, put this stuff out and run it for free for a few years, get everybody into that system, and then close the doors on this walled system. And that's really where we are. We've had closed doors on this walled system of politics for a long time, haven't we? Yeah, David, it's a very important point you make, and this is where Musk comes in.

Musk has presented himself as a fighter for free speech when he's directly the opposite. And I want to sort of walk that through with you, because I was at the center of that fight for free speech, David. If you may remember in September of 2020, I forget the last time we spoke, but you remember in September, you know, I ran for a Senate first against Elizabeth Warren in 2018. We were the ones who forced her to take that DNA test. It wasn't Trump. It was our efforts that did that. We put up, you know, tens of thousands of signs with that great slogan, which said only the real Indian can defeat the fake Indian. And it was really exposing her integrity. It took off. And we hammered her at this fact that she has no integrity.

She's actually a racist because she uses race for her political advancement. Anyway, and at that time, you would have thought the Republicans would have embraced us. They didn't. So we ran as independents. And then in 2020, I gave the Republicans an opportunity. I ran for primary as the Republican candidate. And we had 3,000 volunteers, David, all over Massachusetts. We raised $2 million in a primary, all $5, $10 donations. And we had close to 3,000 volunteers

on the ground. You couldn't get out of Massachusetts without seeing our billboards, 25,000 lawn signs, 10,000 bumper stickers everywhere. The Republican GOP finds a fool to run against me who maybe had one lawn sign, literally, David. Now, on September primary day, 2020, the word on the street was Dr. Sheba is going to win by a landslide. All right. And lo and behold, as the results come in, I win in Franklin County in Massachusetts,

where all the ballots are primarily hand counted. And I win there by 10 points. And in every other county, I lose 60-40, 60-40, 60-40, 60-40. All those other counties have these machines. Now, I had never, ever thought there was fraud in US elections. I thought that only occurs in third world countries. And so what was interesting was, here I have four degrees from MIT. I've studied electrical engineering. I built these systems. And I really started understanding these election machines. And what i found out within a

very few days and i stayed up day and night studying the manuals of these systems that when a paper ballot goes through these machines an image is taken an image of that ballot and it is the ai on the machines which looks for the dots so the ai calculates your votes based on the image. According to federal law 52 USC 20701, which was passed by a Democrat majority 50 years ago, all records in connection with a federal election are supposed to be preserved for 22 months. So I naively go to the Secretary of State's office with one of our volunteers who was filming it. And he says, you know, we would like the ballot images. All right. And we file a formal FOIA and they have 10 days to respond to that FOIA. And they arrogantly say, oh, we don't have to save those images. We deleted them. OK.

And but the reality is that's a violation of federal law. Anyway, 10 days later, I never get my response. So I say, hey, you're supposed to respond to me. And the secretary of State's legal counsel says, oh, we don't need to save ballot images. And I go, can you show me the law? And they send me a manual for the machines, which has nothing to do with it. I said, look, admitting they deleted ballot images. And we had moved this very powerful ground campaign on September 20, 20, to a write in campaign. And we put out 2 million flyers all over Massachusetts, that's a level of ground force, we had David saying stop election fraud. So our campaign moved from these very fundamental policies to that. Now, what's interesting is when I put up that tweet, sharing and you have to add close to 300 000 followers on twitter i would do a tweet david it would get 30 000 retweets my engagement was quite profound because i had which i came to find later was a very powerful

technique i would do a tweet and then lead people to these long form, very educational videos. And you have to remember, in March of 2020, I was the first guy to call out Fauci as a systems biologist. I said, the guy should be fired, the guy should be indicted, while Robert Kennedy was promoting lockdowns. Robert Kennedy was promoting strict lockdowns and lockstep and barrel with Fauci because it would save the climate. Okay. Robert Kennedy at that time had endorsed Hillary Clinton three times, Miss Vaccine Mandate Queen and Miss Monsanto Queen.

He had also endorsed his own nephew who was a Democrat also was for strict vaccine mandates. So Robert Kennedy's full of crap. Okay. And if people need to understand the Kennedys and we'll come back to this historically a Democrat also was for strict vaccine mandates. So Robert Kennedy's full of crap, okay? And people need to understand that Kennedy's, and we'll come back to this, historically have been mafia. They have their own internal fights with the elites, but they've done very good PR, good camera angles to make them look like they are Camelot, right? But when they are completely part entrenched in the system. But anyway, I was exposing all of this in 2020, using my knowledge as a scientist, as an engineer. I could see Fauci was a fraud back then. I wrote to Trump in March 23rd of 2020, said, please fire this guy. And I gave Trump a letter,

an immune protocol that he should do that did not deserve lockdowns. You support the American public through proper support like vitamin d3 quercetin zinc by the way i didn't make a penny off that a number of people took those protocols and they made tens a lot of money but we helped millions of people so all that had already happened david in march of 2020 right um and we had already helped people but now not only had i exposed fauci by then not only had i exposed the issues with the pandemic, not only had we called out these things when it mattered, but now here in September 2020, I get thrown off Twitter. Why?

Because I shared, I said the government of Massachusetts violated federal law, they deleted ballot images. One of those fact-checking organizations very cleverly removes the word images, and they said, oh, Dr. Shiva's saying one million ballots were deleted. I never said that. I said ballot images. Anyway, in that article, when I was thrown off Twitter on September 25, 2020, this fact-checking organization in a sort of a blessing in disguise, they said, oh, we called up the Secretary of State's office in Massachusetts. Remember, I'm running as a U.S. Senate federal candidate. And they said the Secretary of State's office said that they had contacted Twitter to throw

off Dr. Shiva. Now, think about what I'm saying. The government of Massachusetts had called Twitter to throw off a Senate candidate. And I knew I had a First Amendment case. I didn't know enough about election law. So no lawyer in Massachusetts wanted to take on Secretary of State Bill Galvin, who's known as the Prince of Darkness. The guy's been in that role for 40 years, controls everyone. Well, because I actually care about the First Amendment, I came from a country that doesn't have that. The Commonwealth countries don't have that. So I had to file my own lawsuit, David. I had to learn PACE law. And I had to file a lawsuit. And I had to file a preliminary injunction. And the judge gave us our hearing, which is very hard. Judges typically don't like to give pi hearings right preliminary injunction hearings so that was set for October uh 15th I wrote a letter to Tucker Carlson I said

Tucker as a U.S Senate candidate I was thrown off you should cover this it's a it's a large lawsuit it's an important one nothing silence anyway I go into court it's me against three Harvard-trained lawyers, and myself and the judge, federal judge, it's in federal court. We are cross-examining the social media director, and we're asking her, how did you decide to throw me off Twitter? What was the procedure you followed? Oh, we saw him, we saw Dr. Shiva putting up this tweet. The judge said, well, what did you think about that? Oh, we didn't like what he was saying. What did you next oh we have a special portal into twitter the partner support portal he goes what's that he goes oh when we put when we put when we report we get vip treatment essentially and so the judge said you know i'm sitting under a picture of lewis brandeis one of the biggest

proponents of the first amendment had you ever thought of responding to his tweet with your own speech? Why did you call the government on him? You do understand he's a U.S. Senate candidate. And they said, oh, we hadn't thought about that. Anyway, the judge was appalled. He gave me all the terms of my PI. He orders the Secretary of State no longer to call Twitter. And he says, you will refrain from interfering. If you have anything you don't like, you will go on Twitter and debate him. Anyway, I don't get put back on until November 4th, right after the election. For 39 days, where I had used Twitter to raise $2 million, I was off the most important political platform. When I get back on November 4th,

I start, by the way, you also may remember during that time, I had done the Michigan analysis, I'd done Arizona analysis, I became sort of the election mathematics guy showing all these problems, didn't make a penny off of it, David, right? Trump started using election fraud and raised a half a billion using all of my material. We didn't make a penny off of that. All right. But the bottom line is that I keep between November 4th to February 1st, I talked about all sorts of issues against vaccine mandates, the election systems. And then November, sorry, February 1st, I put up a tweet once again showing those four emails exposing the Secretary of State. Boom, I'm deplatformed within 17 minutes of showing those images permanently. I go into federal court again, and I say, Your Honor, they didn't hold up your order. And he says, in order for me to give you restitution, you must bring Twitter into my courtroom.

Now, this is a historic case. So it's now me against the secretary of state, three lawyers. And I also discovered an organization called the National Association of State Election Directors who had also contacted Twitter. They represent the force of all the secretaries of state, David. OK. And they had used uh twitter so they were also a defendant and now twitter is a defendant anyway may uh end of may was that hearing so now it's me against seven lawyers wow again no lawyer wanted to take this on what happens at that hearing was the night before that hearing, I find three very important documents initially on a server in England, and then on the Harvard Belfer School server.

And these documents are playbooks, David. They are actual playbooks, which lay out step-by-step methods, how the US government will censor US citizens. Developed at the Harvard Kennedy Belfer School, the Kennedy Belfer School, right? And these documents, and the head of the Defending Democracy Project was a guy called Robbie Mook, who was Hillary Clinton's former campaign manager, but not only the Democrats, Republicans and Democrats. And these documents laid out how you will identify an influence operator domestically, people who are critiquing the government,

how you will blacklist them. And so when I go into court the next morning, I hold up this document, I had to do my opening statements. There must have been about a thousand people because that was when Zoom hearings were taking place during the lockdowns. And I said, Your Honor, all of these defendants have lied to you because the front page of this document was written by twitter legal by harvard and all the defendants in this case you know in three years ago they had put together a document how would they will silence speech of americans silently by laundering censorship the government would launder censorship through these backdoor portals the judge is appalled he says uh i gotta read this it was only supposed to be a two-hour hearing it goes on for the next day he comes he comes into the next hearing and he goes he goes i went through

dr shiva's documents he goes this case will go down in history and will be taught in every constitutional law class this guy's a harvard yale you know trained you know judge and uh again mind you i had told tucker carlson and glenn greenwald and aclu they did nothing that's right because they're arrogant they and they're i believe they're all part of the intelligence establishment they do limited hangouts only putting out news either drives them popularity but they surely did not want to drive me views and hits because i'm independent of the left and the right and the judge says i have the right to appoint you a constitutional lawyer because you've done amazingly well on your own the head

of wilmer and hale twitter's vice twitter uses wilmer and hale one of the leading firms in the world and the vice chairman of wilmer and hale said we don't believe he wrote his lawsuit briefs they're too good okay and i haven't gone to law school but i had figured out how to write pretty good briefs and this is before chat gpt even this is before chat gpt i had to actually do the work now remember david i am doing stuff exposing election stuff i did the signature verification analysis for arizona kerry lake should have followed it then all these grifters stayed silent they silent. They don't do what needs to be done at the right time, because they watch

which way the wind blows, and they see if they can make money off of it. That's the key, the money. Yeah, the money. So, 2020, March of 2020, where was Boobie effing Kennedy? Nowhere to be found. He waited a year and a half to plagiarize all my material and then write stuff

against Fauci. But he was lockstep and barrel with Fauci's lockdowns in 2020. And everyone should look this up. Kennedys speak from left and right sides of the mouth. They are the epitome of the not-so-obvious establishment. And they use this Kennedy name to manipulate the masses. It's got to end. And here you saw Trump didn't do really anything against election systems Integrity you know two years later he uh said oh I want to thank Dr Shiva I met with Trump and I said why did you endorse a guy in Massachusetts who fundamentally was the one who cheated my own election but Trump is also about making money he made a half a billion dollars

of election systems fraud. And this is what people need to wake up to. But anyway. And to the extent that, you know, we had a lockdown election, right? Why did we have a lockdown? Why did he persist in that? And that's why we had that additional new form of corruption with the paper ballots and all the rest of this stuff. Yeah, it truly is a deputized state. You know, when you're talking about the ballots being disappeared, the same thing happened in Texas with local elections. And we had somebody who ran for local office and they said, well, according to the Texas Constitution, you're supposed to keep an image of all these ballots. And we had the guy who, the Republican, who ran the State Board of Elections there.

Somebody who used to work at the Rose Law Firm with Hillary Clinton. The Republican governors brought him in to run the elections. And he would send out a message every election to all of the boards of elections in every county saying, destroy the records. Why would you do that when it's in the Constitution that you've got to have it in there? Making sure that they don't do it. Yeah, it's a 22-month principle. The bottom line, David, is you find out that there are fundamental systems issues and there's the swarm of elites which includes a collusion of the the top 100 university professors

so the the conspiracy there is a conspiracy but the problem is the conspiracy theorists don't understand that they think it's one person right oh the rothschilds here or this religious group here etc it is a swarm no different than a bird swarm flying swarm intelligence so they have the top 100 academic university professors they have the top 100 leaders of the biggest ngos right they have the top uh 100 investment bank uh and advisors from uh you know jamie diamond etc right they have the hollywood agents they have the influencers now, the Joe Rogans, the Tucker Carlson's. Right. All of these people are chosen and they all collude

together in one framework. And the front end of this collusion is the obvious establishment, like the McConnell's and the Clinton's, which they just hammer people. And when they can't do that, they have the not so obvious establishment, which are the Kennedys, which are the hammer people. And when they can't do that, they have the not so obvious establishment, which are the Kennedys, which are the Trumps. And you go down the list, they all say the right things. But when you actually look at materially at their actions, they have learned to say one thing and do another.

I'm gonna drain the swamp. Well, you brought the swamp in, okay? I'm gonna lock her up. Well, you didn't do that, right? Your own followers got locked up. That's right he took money from pfizer so the bottom line is and same with kennedy kennedy in fact speaks from 10 sides of his mouth and that's what he does all day long and our campaign is exposing this because we were in the trenches doing the work while these guys were bullshitting people david i agree when you

follow that entire process through and i want to get to Musk is that so here in May, we've exposed that the government has a backdoor portal. We've told all the major Tucker Carlson and Glenn Greenwald, they did nothing. Either they were jealous because we broke the story. They didn't want to give us abuse or they're part of the intelligence network where they release stories when it doesn't matter. In 2020, it mattered that you covered the story. Just like it mattered you talked about indicting Fauci in 2020, not like Rand Paul who waited a year and then used our fire Fauci hashtag. We came up with, I collected 120,000 signatures, David. We drove them down to Trump in our rickety old school bus. When the lockdown, we delivered it

to him. Marla Maples took my letter and said, do not fire this guy. Follow this immune protocol. We don't need to shut down the entire country. Vitamin D3, quercetin, zinc boost people's immune system. Trump didn't do anything. He had all the information in front of him. Oh, he played a clown to Fauci's straight man. You know, he'd say stuff like, well, maybe we can inject sunlight in and fauci's like oh i'm the expert here you don't know anything about it it was it was like a stand-up routine with abbott and costello it's crazy david it's theater and these people know they're playing theater and if you think about so but let me just finish this the lawsuit thing because it gets quite profound. So the judge then appoints me a

constitutional lawyer. And that's when I should have realized it was a honeypot. The constitutional lawyer was supposed to brief up my cases and all the signals from the court were they were going to put me back on Twitter. And remember, in my lawsuit, it wasn't just getting back on Twitter. It was also that I wanted the government in their personal capacity, the secretary of state to be sued for damages. And I had figured out the case law to overcome qualified immunity. Well, anyway, in June, July is when I'm supposed to present my case to the judge. Okay. With this new constitutional lawyer guy called Howard Cooper. Well, what ends up happening is three days before the briefs are due, Cooper tells me, oh, Shiva, you're going to become one of the biggest heroes, the first guy back on Twitter, drop all your claims against the government. I go, what are

you talking about? I said, you haven't briefed this? No. He goes, well, it's my way or the highway. So I fire Cooper. And in three days, David, he had seven weeks, I had to put together nearly 2000 pages of memorandum of law myself. Wow. So I go into court, and it was a setup. What the judge flipped, he just wanted to put me back on Twitter, toast their martinis and Martha's Vineyard, and say, you know, we got this rabble rouser.

Isn't it great? We all defended the First Amendment. But they wanted me not to go after the government. I refused. He wanted to censor me throw me in jail and he forced me to file the case just with one claim which i did but i got a very very important diagram in there david if people go to winbackfreedom.com and that diagram essentially exposed the entire censorship network the om OMDRs, the Zuckerbergs, all the people who funded it, all the players, and Matt Taibbi and all the Twitter files guys stole my stuff.

Two years later, never cited my work. And they rebranded it the censorship industrial complex was my work. So this was a limited hangout that they did two years later. So anyway, in October of 2022, I'm sorry, December 20, October 2022, when Musk buys Twitter, I'm still on Facebook and I say, hey, Elon, are you going to remove the backdoor portal that government has to Twitter? The next day, David, the intercept drops a story saying, oh, my God, DHS is involved with social media companies. Well, it was a complete limited version of what I had put. DHS was one of the players. Tucker Carlson then has Fang, who was a writer at The Intercept, on and goes, oh my God, isn't this amazing? How did we miss this? Well, i have the emails that i've sent to tucker he missed it not only did he miss it but he concealed the actual story and then he promotes the intercept which gives a limited version of it this is a cia technique called the limited hangout yes you

and then so i expose that the next day i'm put back on um uh eventually i'm put back on twitter on december 20th and i think they were trying to buy me david so i put back on, eventually I'm put back on Twitter on December 20th. And I think they were trying to buy me, David. So I get back on Twitter and everyone can watch the tweet feed. And I said, hey, Elon, if you want truly free speech, you look like you're looking for CEO. I'm willing to be your CEO. That tweet goes viral, David. It gets 20 million views. Wow. All right. Major newspapers picked it up. You can go, you just go look at it. I adore a CEO, Twitter, you'll see all these hits. And then after that, I started hitting Musk. I said, are you going to remove that backdoor portal? Are you going to remove that backdoor portal?

Clayton Morris, who was at redacted in a big Twitter spaces event, uh, where Musk is there with a couple of hundred thousand people. He says, hey, Dr. Shiva's lawsuit, Elon, exposed that there's a backdoor portal into Twitter. How do you reconcile with that of your position wanting to be a free speech absolutist? Are you aware of this? What are you going to do? So Musk acts stupid. He goes, oh, that sounds like Big Brother. I'll get back to you on that. That was in December 20th of 2022. The scumbag doesn't do anything. And all of these conservatives suddenly are promoting Musk as though he's some free speech fighter. And what is really going on, David, and I wrote a blog page on this, is Musk is a government

front man for United States and China, any government. That's what he is. And you have to look at the facts. They're right in front of us spacex 5.7 billion dollars from from government all those starlink satellites all those permits don't just happen overnight okay you are cahoots with government tesla during the pandemic the guy made 600 billionaires made 2.3 trillion dollars he he became the biggest billionaire the most wealthiest man during the pandemic. Greg Foss, Jr.: How did Tesla get profitable? They were not worth 600 billion. They weren't worth anything until they got carbon tax credits from government carbon tax credits. So he's lockstep and bow the climate change scam. He thinks Greta Thornburg is

great. And using carbon tax credits, they move from negative profitability to about a billion dollars in profitability. They get a 600x on valuation. Suddenly, he's worth 600 billion. Again, government linkage. Now, finish up with Twitter. And this is something very few people understand. I've had to explain this in the most succinct way I can tell you is you have a publishing company like the New York Times, and you have social media platforms. And a newspaper reporter, the New York Times, write something, say David kicks his dog all day, you can sue the New York Times. They don't have indemnity, right? And because of that liability, if the New York Times makes a billion dollars in revenue, they're only worth about $ know two billion in value two times

on a good day two times a revenue a social media company if they make a billion dollars in revenue they get 10 times valuation there were 10 billion so when twitter made 5 billion in revenue they get a 50 billion dollar valuation on wall street why why does a social media company valued at 10x and a new york times is valued at 1x simple reason congress and silicon valley colluded to create what was called section 230 immunity which allows social media companies never to be sued so if i post on on twitter david kicks his dog you can't sue Okay? So that indemnity allows them to have this higher valuation. Now, in return for that, Congress and CISA struck a deal with all these social media companies. You will give us backdoor access so we can censor people.

And that censorship architecture is what I discovered in my lawsuit. The way they censor it, they have a backdoor clearinghouse. The clearinghouse was created by Pierre Omidyar. It's all documented. This is who was the former head of eBay who bought PayPal from Musk and Peter Thiel. That backdoor portal allows government to let this nonprofit, Center for Internet Security, know, oh, Dr. Shiva is saying something. Take him out. They then report to Twitter. Government can say, oh, we didn't do it. It's laundering censorship.

It's a term I came up with in my lawsuit. So fundamentally, I had exposed this backdoor portal and I didn't let up, David. I kept hitting Musk over and over and over again. And if you look at my tweet visibility in December, I used to get 500,000 views per day. And as I increase my tweets attacking Musk, my visibility goes down like this, from 500,000 views to 300,000 views to 100,000 views. Now it's at 5,000 views, David, for guys got 330,000 followers and dropping, they eat away my followers on an algorithmic way. So what Musk has done is he's doing censorship 10.0. Jack Dorsey just took you out for certain issues.

Musk gives the illusion that he put guys like me back on, but he has us in a digital cage where your voice doesn't go out anywhere. He has said free speech does not equal free reach. This is a complete rewriting of what the founders actually wanted free speech to be and so you so he's this guy's dangerous and the most disgusting people are the conservative grifters and you can see it people like dinesh desouza people like james woods all these people are ass kissing to musk because they want views i saw it in front of i have it all videotaped in fact documented musk when the wef ceo got brought in then people said oh my god dr shiva's right look he just screwed us he brought in a woman who's with a wef executive

who's pro vaccine mandate pro mask mandates and when he brought that person in James Woods, you know, tries to be very snarky. He says, Oh, I guess the party's over, you know? And I said, James, the party never began. That's right. A couple of months ago, I put up a tweet and I was surprised because I'm so shadow banned. Uh, you know, I've got, uh, like, what is that? I don't even 133,000 or something like that, but they keep it flat, you know, to go up over the weekend. And then when they come back on Monday or whatever, it drops off, you know, everything happens always like that. And they've kept me at this plateau and of course, limiting my visibility.

But I was surprised Matt Drudge put a link to my tweet up. I was like, what is going on? Left it up there for a couple of days. So I'm pretty much burned. But what I said was, uh, you know, this is all just, Musk hasn't done anything. It hasn't changed except maybe to get worse. And he's brought back a few high profile people as a beard. And that's all that's really going on here. And I agree with you. You know, you call it, I like your term. I like laundering censorship. I call them the deputized state. Everybody talks about

the deep state. Well, these are their deputies. They work on their behalf. I mean, that's what's happening. And they get paid handsomely to do that now what's interesting david is they in order to cover up the true findings of my lawsuit they did the twitter files which is a complete okay because it never if you notice the intercept and twitter never exposed the people who are actually the funders people like pierre omidyar they cleverly leave them out and then what i've noticed is this is the way these guys work it's a very interesting intelligence formula first when guys like me independent journalists expose the truth they conceal it and they hope it goes away then when it doesn't get concealed they do a limited hangout

which is a cia technique they release a manicured version of that story and they try to take ownership for it like the intercept which is a total intelligence operation the intercept was started by pierre omidyar and pierre omidyar is the one who created the center for internet security think about this and fang never exposes that that their boss is the one who created the censorship infrastructure so they do a limited hangout and then when the story is going to come out too much then they try to own the story oh we're the guys who release the truth not this guy dr shivaya dure we did it give us the honors and that's called total plagiarism so they have it down to a science david the problem they had david as a guy like me is alive. We're exposing it. And now we have close to 400 million people all over the world who know about all the videos I did. They did get out.

And we've also created a movement now, David, called Truth, Freedom, Health. The Truth, Freedom, Health movement says all these movements for fighting for our health, fighting for good science, fighting for freedoms all have to come together. You can't have the yoga people here saying, oh, I'm going to take care of my body, and the nerves talking about innovation, and the freedom people saying, I want my guns. All these movements have got to come together. Why? Because without freedom, the fundamental force of movement of information, matter, and energy freely, you cannot do great science. Science demands the ability to have open discourse. And only with great science, truth, and freedom can you figure out what's right for your health. And only with great science, truth, and freedom can

you figure out what's right for your health. And when you have health, you have the wherewithal to fight for freedom and truth. So the truth, freedom, and health movement now, we have close to about 400,000 people in over 100 countries. And what I'm doing, David, I'm teaching people system science, system thinking, not this reductionist way of looking at the world beyond left and right. And it is the only force that way of looking at the world beyond left and right. And it is the only force that's going to change the world because the elites take very complex situations and they reduce it to one line, Edward Bernays type advertising models. And then they have their Bobby Kennedy's, Boobie Kennedy, that's what he really should be called, or Trump, or they found a brown guy like this guy, Vivek, right? They have to find,

if you notice, there's been a lot of brown people that they found to take away this guy, Jay Bhattacharya, suddenly this doctor, look at him, he was promoting lockdowns. And then suddenly he's going the other way. So all of these MDs, they want to try to get credit. Now they're saying stuff against Fauci. Well, you profited from being silent in 2020, and now you're profiting from lecture tours in 2022 and 2023. So what I urge people to do is, it's not the obvious establishment, David, that's the enemies of the people. It's the not so obvious establishment. It's the Tucker Carlson's. It is the Boobie Kennedy's. It is the Trump's, because they keep people, they say just enough yes and they and they

have their marketing people figuring out all the buzzwords but you look at kennedy we have a video that i exposed him in 2020 i had to do the dirty work and exposing kennedy i lost 20 of my followers all these wealthy bougie women who keep giving him money what was kennedy who endorsed hillary clinton three times not once not twice but three times he endorsed his nephew as i said it was Kennedy who endorsed Hillary Clinton three times. Not once, not twice, but three times. He endorsed his nephew, as I said, who was pro-vaccine mandate. We have a video where he says, I am pro-vaccine mandate. I am for full vaccination of all Americans. I vaccinated all my kids. And then he goes on with his other mouth to say, oh, the CDC is so corrupt, but I'm going to get them to make safe vaccines. You see, this is all bullshit. On Ukraine, the guy says, yeah, we are in Ukraine for the right reasons. We shouldn't be there for regime change.

This is classic liberal imperialism. Right? The Republicans like Goldwater in Vietnam said, yeah, we need to bomb the hell out of the Vietnamese. The LBJs and the liberal elites said, well, we need to do it this way. They basically tell people how to screw other people so they can swallow the bitter pill. And this is the evil of people like Kennedy. This is the evil of these liberal imperialists because they take advantage of people. So our campaign, David, is fundamentally systems changing because what we're saying is when you look at that simple graph and you put it together, that one graph that since 1980 Americans life expectancy is going like this.

It makes it so clear. It doesn't matter what any of these guys say. They're eating organic food. They get the best insurance. They get the best health care. But everyday people, if you're an American, your son or daughter is going to live less than you. And that is the most important thing to recognize, that all of these people are professional bullshitters. They're professional theater. And the only people you can trust ultimately is one of you. Did this guy, does he walk the walk? I definitely do. I've been 100% right without any arrogance. You look at the predictions I made, they've been on target. Why? Because I take a scientific systems approach. And I'm telling you right now that the biggest

thing that people need to recognize right now is that these people who are running for office right now, they're all one group of people. They all work together. Elon Musk is part of that. And one of the most dangerous things that's taking place right now is the fact that the life expectancy of Americans is going downward. And the only way forward is a systems overhaul, because it's not any one thing. And so what we've been doing on our campaign, David, is we have a six-part platform. And guess what? Our platform doesn't say, oh, elect me, and then I'm going to do this. So every Thursday, David, we take an issue and we're rotating it to healthcare. What's our position on healthcare? I can talk about GPOs,

PBMs, but even simpler, you got to boost your immune system. And government ain't going to do it. They're going to keep destroying your immune system. Ultimately, every policy as a systems biologist I know will affect your biology policy to biology so cytosol the technology that i created allows us to understand what happens at the molecular systems level so you take a policy you can see how it affects your biology so those in congress and and and all of these people know that the health of american people is going downward because people's immune systems are shocked when the immune system is shot it is the operating system of even the aging systems anti-aging and immune system science are like this so what's a health care policy forget the government forget the presidency forget the

judiciary you have to boost your immune system so my being president david i have a very different definition of what the presidency is. I think the presidency is a bully pulpit to educate people. That's what a president should be doing. Because we know it's corrupt. We know the judiciary is corrupt. But if I get in as president, David, imagine you can go see my videos. I would be educating people every day on how this policy affects them and telling them you have to now take action at the local level. Government ain't going to do anything for you. Let's be honest. It ain't going to do anything. So health care boosts your immune system. And we actually teach people this, David.

We teach people what the immune system is. We give them the ability to do it so they don't have to wait till I'm president. And we did that in 2020. When it comes to the environment, just did a talk yesterday, and this is our second time we've done it. We teach people the foundations of the environment, or again, government has passed policies which support big ag, big agrobio tech companies. And I did some of the fundamental research on what happens with genetic engineering, what it does at the molecular systems level for plants. But then we say, look, they're not going to do anything.

Start supporting your local farmers. Learn how to eat on a local budget, organic food. Government ain't going to do that. When it comes to education, David, one of my mentors, Jay Forrester, said every child at the kindergarten level should learn system science, system thinking. It's way beyond reading, writing, and arithmetic. You should learn that first. So we just offer that program, David, every other Thursdays. And then when it comes to innovation, you know, I wrote a book many, many years ago, David, a very simple book called The Seven

Secrets of Innovation. It teaches people what are the seven fundamental principles. And I give that away because there are seven principles people can teach. When it comes to the economy, we're teaching people as a part of our campaign, what is a balance sheet? What is a profit and loss statement? What is cashflow? Government ain't gonna do anything. A president should be educating people

how they can take care of themselves. And if they get conscious, then they're gonna get good, militant, strong activists in their local levels. And that's the only way the world is gonna change. It's not going to come from someone coming in and doing all these negotiations look at what's happened since trump got in what did he actually do lockdowns lockdowns pfizer went from 45 billion in revenue losing 25 billion over 10 years shooting up to 85 billion in revenue now 100 billion yeah so these guys aren't going to do anything for you.

We have to do it ourselves, and you need one of you, which is a guy like me. So that's why I'm running, David. Well, you know, that's a great thing because I've said for the longest time, I said, look, we need to understand what these people are doing. We see that there's going to be a slight difference in the way that they come after us first. They all have ultimately the same goal. But I said it's important to understand where these guys are coming from. The most important thing is to have a discussion about what is going on.

And I think that's the value of the campaign is to have, and it's very limited whenever that happens, that you do have a discussion about what is going to be done out there. So I think that's a good approach for your campaign to get that out there, to have people look at, because a bully pulpit doesn't just happen if you get elected president. The bully pulpit is really happening during the campaign. Exactly. And so that's a very important thing that you're doing there. So tell us a little bit about, I guess, since you've got truthhealthandfreedom.com, why is it? Truthfreedomhealth.com. Yep. Truth, freedom, health. Okay. I got the other order. Truthfreedomandhealth.

Since you've got that, why though with the president thing, why are you running for president? You've got the bully pulpit that you've been able to establish contact with people. When you're running for president, I've said with people way before you get to the ballot counting aspect of it, it is already corrupt in terms of who gets on the ballot in different places, who gets into debates, as we're seeing already. That's really where it begins, right there with ballot access. And I'm sure as an independent, it's got to be a real uphill climb. But what does running for

president do for you? Yes, so David, it's a great question. You're asking one of the most fundamental questions. Everyone at a certain point in their lives lives and it may happen when they're five years old my case happened when i was four right because i grew up in an indian caste system i grew up in working class neighborhoods in new jersey right you come to a point in life where you observe the world and at some point whether you do it consciously or unconscious you decide i don't like the way the world that it is the way it is right or i'm fine with it i'm willing to put up with all these inequities and when you come to that point in life where you choose a form or we say hey this is really screwed up i want to be an agent of change but it's a very important decision people make and some people

actually make the decision but they never acknowledge they made that decision so i made that decision when i was 12 years old. And when I decided that, I said, I'm going to use whatever my existence to figure out how all of this works. Now, in the current world, they give people only two options. They say, oh, you want to change the world? Oh, write to your congressman, right? That's what they taught us when we were in civics world. Oh, write to your congressman, right? That's what they taught us when we were in civics class, right? Write to your congressman or run for office, right? What I call the electoral opportunistic process. And in that process, you're told to compromise. Oh, don't say that. Don't say this. Get into office. That's the goal, right? So you end up

in this opportune model. The other option they give you is a legalism approach. Be a lawyer, file lawsuits, right, et cetera. Now, we know both of those are corrupt. The legalism approach takes you to courts, which are completely bought and paid for. And the electoral process goes into a process where I learn hands on its elections or selections. However, both of those processes can be a front end to have what you just said discourse and teach people stuff it's really an experimental lab if you have a movement if you have a movement and you're interested in advancing movement movement is raising people's consciousness to me that's what movement is movement of consciousness and history shows that the only

time anything has ever changed has always been through mass movements people rising up bottoms up it occurred in the 1920s in the late 1800s in the united states with the great upheaval it was these truly bottoms-up workers movements long before they were taken over by the left and the right that galvanized people that were independent grassroots movements that scared the hell out of the elites and you can that galvanized people that were independent grassroots movements that scared the hell out of the elites and you can look at in the united states right by the 1920s and 30s these bottoms-up movements truly independent trade union movements is the ones that eliminated child labor it's the thing that made sure that we had infrastructure it's the thing that we had proper

plumbing it's a thing that forced us to get proper hygiene. So long before 1963, before the measles vaccine came, most of measles was gone. But no one wants to give their credit to those workers movements that did that. And when that happened in the 1950s, the Republicans and Democrats got together. McCarthy branded all these movements. He said they're communists. And then the left wing took over all these movements top down. So by 1970, the unions were destroyed. They weren't truly organic bottoms up movements. The right wing attacked anytime working people organized, oh, they're communists,

they're communists. And the left wing actually took over these movements. So between 1940 and 1970, American economy expanded, everyone's wages grew because of these mass movements. But after 1970 till today, the wage of American workers has gone down. And there's maybe been, you know, 900 strikes in the United States. In the 1940s, there were close to 11,000 strikes not want people mobilizing bottoms up, independent of left and right I would call it a self-organizing system where enough people start consciousness raises. So our movement for truth for them now teaches people this. We educate people. It's knowledge. It's a community. Running for office, when I ran in 2020, think about all the accomplishments we did because they attacked us. We were the ones who exposed the election fraud. We were the ones who exposed Fauci. We were the ones who exposed the backdoor portal.

Had a guy like me not run, David, and just be a cloistered academic or a scientist, none of this would have come out because we wanted the truth. So now me running for president and doing it in every 50 states, David, think about what experience that's going to give to all these new people coming because they realize left and right is screwing them. Now they're going to try to get on the ballot or Shiva for president on the ballot. They say, wow, what the hell is really going on? Think about the learnings people are going to learn. Think about in their bones. They're going to learn the corruption is not just going to be something they watch on Fox or CNN. They're going to learn the corruption. It's not just going to be something they watch on Fox or CNN. They're going to learn it. And how valuable is that, David, to educating people on why they need to be active citizens? I think it's a great plan. I agree with you. And

I've been telling everybody, look, you're not going to get anything solved in Washington, but everybody wants to look for a solution and a president. So if you're running for president, gives you an opportunity to tell them, hey, start with yourself, start with your community, start from the bottom up, I think is a brilliant plan. Yeah. And what we've done, David, we've created sort of a revolution university. You go to school for civil engineering, you go to school for aeronautical engineering, right? If you want to build an airplane, you have to understand Bernoulli's principle. You have to understand design. Where do people you have to understand design where do people go to figure out how to change the world the dynamics of change you know this book I have system and

revolution took me 20 years to write that book in that book I explained to people in very simple terms what is a system the nine principles you know you learn in an MIT PhD class I've made it easy and you find out the same principles show up everywhere in nature now understanding those principles people understand what is a revolution that it is a phase transition you know like water going from ice to you know liquid and when people understand these concepts and then they understand what is a disturbance so we're teaching people this fundamental theory then we get people on the ground david we have people going out handing handing out leaflets, going door to door. But the idea is to make people be conscious activists that it's up to them.

That's great. We've got to get you back on to talk about this. We're out of time, but it was fascinating. Again, truthfreedomhealth.com. Yep, and you can go to 4, numeral4president.com. So shiva4president.com. Yeah, donate and volunteer. Get involved.

Thanks, David. Look forward to seeing him. Glad we reconnected. Thank you for all the work you do, David. I was very thankful for your intelligence, by the way. Oh, well, thank you. Your thoughtfulness. Thank you.

Thank you for what you're doing. I really do appreciate it. I think it's a great idea. I'm not afraid of the dark Thank you. Analyzing the globalist's next move. And now, The David Knight Show. All right, welcome back. And we do have Jack Lawson on the line now. Again, Jack Lawson's books, CivilDefenseManual.com. That's where you can find these, Volumes 1 and 2.

He only sells it in book format, and he only sells them together because you've got to get the full picture. And he wants to make sure that if you have to use them, you will be able to use them. Because if you don't have internet or you don't have your computer up and operating, you'll still have the book that's there. Thank you for joining us, Jack. Good to talk to you again. It's always good to listen to you. You're a voice of sanity in a world of insanity. Well, it got pretty crazy last week when we started seeing this civil war in Russia. And of course, the consequences of that, they just keep pushing, pushing, pushing.

And you wonder if somebody there like Putin is going to freak out and push a button and start a nuclear war. So that's why I wanted to get you on. I thought it was a great idea for us to talk about that because you have so many different chapters in these two volumes here talking about all kinds of things. I was just talking about how they want to ban food, for example. You talk about how we can save food and make sure you got water for emergencies and other things. But also, you know, there's things there like preparing for a nuclear attack, and you've drawn on the expertise of a lot of individual contributors as well as your own experience, and you've had considerable experience as a soldier in survival situations.

But let's talk a little bit about the nuclear aspect and what individuals can do about that if something like that happens. Well, first, David, I'd like to say that I doubt any button being pushed is going to come from Vladimir Putin. I often have thought of P.T. Barnum and Barnum and Bailey Circus. I suppose the guy had nightmares that the clowns were going to take over the circus. But that's in essence what I think we have. We have a bunch of people that are detached from the reality of what is going on.

I think they have pushed and pushed. And I'm not supporting Putin. I'm just not supporting the woke people on the other side. That's right. You kind of got a little bit of a Bay of pigs type of situation because Putin has now put some nuclear weapons in Belarus and then, uh, Lindsey Graham. And, um, I think it was Blumenthal was with him. Uh, they, uh, come out and say, well, you know, uh, just understand that if

you try to use these in any way, shape, or form, it's going to be a big response from us. I mean, they're, as you point out, they're the ones, uh, likely as anything else to escalate this because they've been escalating this since the 1990s. They've been escalating this conflict. Uh, people have to understand one thing that, uh, well, there's a, this is a complex issue. Uh, surviving nuclear war is quite simple actually but our nuclear arsenal is somewhere up around 60 years old uh the russians chinese and i believe

the north koreans maybe pakistan and france have been doing testing and perfecting the nuclear weapons. One thing that is clear to me now is that this is a real oxymoron, but they've actually, the other side, Russia, China uh not so much north korea but russia and china have created kind of a green bomb if you want to say it it's an environmentally friendly nuclear weapon there uh when i was in and went to nuclear weapons school we had it wasn't described then as a dirty bomb it was described then as a nuclear weapon but 60 years later uh the weapons that that i used to uh i i was putting nuclear arming packages on these things i'd sit on top of these things uh we had all this expensive scaffolding but uh the bottom line was i had a sergeant down below handing me stuff and this missile i worked on was six foot off the floor

so rather than assemble all of this uh expensive uh framework we'd put a ladder up and sit on top of the bomb and i would have to put the arming package on and take the arming package off and I'm getting a picture jacket. You talk about this, a Dr. Strangelove for you. Well, you know, I've often thought of that only the missile wasn't going any place when I was sitting on it, but I didn't have a cowboy hat either. Like, uh, some said, but it did.

Yeah. It's, it's a a it's a beautiful thing it's uh epoxy coated rounded edge about size of a 30 gallon drum there's a couple different kinds of them i'm not going to go into that what i want to get into is uh how people survive this uh if there is an exchange uh with uh what they have in their house but the long and short of the thing is is uh uh nuclear weapons there's enough when i went to school it was under the mad doctrine the mutual assured destruction i don't know who comes up with these terms. They must have people sitting in an insane asylum someplace coming up with these terms. But it's a very accurate term.

If they ever have a full exchange, it'll literally incinerate and remove us from the planet. But that's the big boom. People misunderstand what would happen during a nuclear exchange and both sides have been talking about this this is what bothers me i think we're actually further ahead on the probability chart than we were during the cuban crisis yes uh we we had a president that was, to me, is probably one of the last good ones, even though he was a Democrat. And hell, I was a Democrat back then, so I don't know. It came to my senses. But the nuclear exchange will be preceded by something called the EMP.

That's electromagnetic pulse event. It's also known in the military as the HEMP, high altitude electromagnetic pulse event. This is 150 mile above the earth, roughly explosion, that will cast gamma rays out that will destroy every semiconductor that people have, whether it's an LED flashlight, and there's caveats to all this, but the bottom line is our entire electrical grid

and our entire communication system will go down. That is important to understand. People will literally hear a deafening silence there will be nothing there's nothing that's run by computers is going to be operating uh the the cells your cell phone might work but the cells towers will not work so that will be precise there probably six uh 12 of these set off over the industrialized western world and especially america and what this will do uh in the hopes of the enemy is destroy our ability to respond yeah on a military basis everything's gps everything is uh you know uh satellite guidance systems all the weapon systems function off of this so what you're going to have is not only

the military capability uh destroyed the russians after the russian Russian Soviet empire went down, we had atomic energy people over there and military people concerned about their nuclear weapons falling into the wrong hands. And in the process of inventorying and talking to the Russian scientists, the standard of 50,000 volts per square meter was totally upset because the Russians said, we've developed and have EMP nuclear weapons, and this is a blast in the sky. You won't hear it. You won't taste it.

You won't smell it. You won't hear it. You won't taste it. You won't smell it. You won't feel it. You may possibly see some sparking along the ground, but this will take out everything that is electronic, and we are heavily dependent on that. Manufacturing and the ability for us to manufacture for the military is going to go out the window. That's preceding a nuclear attack

then i really don't believe that the russians i don't know about the chinese are going to target anything but military centers or manufacturing centers and they know where every one of these is to the to the literal uh within a meter of what their gps tells them so the long and short of the thing is you'll have an emp and then you may have you may just have an emp but you may have attacks on military uh some uh political centers and manufacturing centers i don't think they're going to be out to just kill the average American person. Yeah. But of course, taking down the power grid and that's one of the things that's worrying about, uh, North Korea, you know, uh, you don't have to,

um, you know, uh, uh, close only counts in horseshoes and a nuclear nuclear war, right, except that you don't even have to be as close when you've got an EMP. You know, if you have a situation like North Korea, I guess it's one of the reasons why it's so worrying when they shoot a rocket up over Japan. You know, is this going to be an EMP thing or what are they going to do with this? And, you know, if they were able to do something like that,

that'd be a nice plausible deniability for China. Well, it wasn't us. It was North Korea that would do that. But whoever does it or if it is done, that is something that is going to have very lasting effects as well because some of the things that they're going to take out are going to be giant transformers as part of the grid that are very, very difficult to replace. There's only a couple of places in the world that make these things and they have a very, very long lead time for manufacturing.

And of course, if this was a broader response and they took out the factories in Germany where they make these things, you can forget about it happening for a very long time. So you basically wipe out the infrastructure to a large degree, and then you don't even have the tools really to rebuild it because that's been taken away from you as well. So this could be something that would happen. An EMP strike would be devastating

perhaps as devastating as if there was an actual uh nuclear bomb that landed because now all of society has been bombed back into the stone ages and people are going to start starving right it's a good description the stone age because that's just about what it would be yeah water systems won't run transfer such uh transportation and and distribution of food. Uh, that's going to stop. Uh, it would be, I don't even like to think about the nightmare that that turned into, but, uh, let, let me go to this. Uh, people can survive this. nuclear weapons school it was like say goodbye to everybody because if there's a nuclear exchange uh you're basically not going to survive it that's the picture they painted now uh with the uh newer weapons uh they have uh there's something in physics and i don't want to get complicated about this but there is that people have to understand there's something in physics and i don't want to get complicated about this but there is that people have to understand there's what's called the inverse square law

that means this one foot from a particle of this being outside of your window and nuclear uh nuclear material except outside the fireball which is about two and a half miles where the weapon hits. Outside the fireball, nuclear material, the decaying nuclear material, which causes the gamma rays, will not attach to anything other. It's got to attach to a particle of dust in the air. So if you're in your house, the simple thing for people to do is to shelter in place if you're outside the blast area there's an old saying they came up and somebody came up with called duck and cover that is critical if you're in the blast area uh 90 percent of the people that died in nagasaki in hiroshima if they wouldn't have been looking out the window

uh when these when the shock wave hit that's 2 to 20 seconds after the burst that shock wave splintered windows and sent pieces of glass at the speed of bullet cutting pieces people to shreds. Duck and cover. Get down. Put your thumbs in your ears to try to keep the noise from acoustical trauma. And put your fingers over your face. Get under something solid. If you're in a blast area. First is a fireball. That's questionable whether anybody will survive in that but

the odds are where they would hit there wouldn't be a lot of people killed but the blast area uh and in addition to falling stuff you've got glass splintering so duck cover stick your thumbs in your ears fingers over your eyes and wait for the shock wave to go by and you'll know when it goes by because if you've got a you're in a building when uh windows shatter uh people on trains in uh japan at the hiroshima burst and there's a great article written by one of the foremost experts. That's Shane Connor at KI4U. KI4U means basically potassium iodide. This guy knows his stuff inside and out. He works with a group called Physicians for Self-Defense.

But the people on this train stood up, looked out the windows, and flying glass shredded these people. 90% of the people that die after a nuclear explosion are outside the blast area, going to die from being outside exposed to nuclear radiation. Shelter in place. If you're outside the blast area, you risk the fallout from this and there's basically three types of nuclear explosions there's the air burst three to four thousand feet over the intended target there is the ground burst which which is probably 200 to 600 foot above the intended target.

And then in areas where they're looking to destroy underground bunkers, missile silos, there's what's called the shallow ground burst. The closer you are to the ground, the closer this weapon is to the ground or penetrating the ground, the more debris it picks up and puts up into the funnel cloud. And when this happens, there's more fallout because there's more trash up there that's going to eventually blow with the winds downrange. Now, I would generally say we have winds moving from west to east. So any explosion west of you has a possibility, depending on winds and depending on rain, of falling on you. But people have to understand, if you're in a house, in the center of your house that nuclear gamma radiation that's at your

window if it goes one foot it may have half the power if it goes two foot it's got a fourth of the power on and on if you're 10 foot in the middle of your house with your family and there's things that you have to have you don't have to stay in your house forever 48 hours to uh probably a week on the outside uh depending on where you are and what the fallout the winds are doing you will survive this intact you will not have uh you'll virtually have no damage whatsoever now you have to understand gamma rays are like invisible bullets if you're outside they're going through your body if there's fallout if you're inside your house in the center find the closest to the center of your house and preferably something that's a room. Even if it's a master bedroom closet that's big enough.

But if it's like, say, you and your wife, you get into one of these areas, shut your HVAC off, shut your electric off to your house to keep air circulation down. And good God, where I live, it'd be awful hot to do that. But, you know, you got to determine whether you want to live or not live. Yeah. And you need a few things to survive this with. But 48 hours to a week, people have to understand that 500, and there's all kinds of complicated, there's all kinds of complicated names to this, but they have something called a Rankin, which is 500 Rankins will kill you after half an hour if you're outside. If you're 10 foot

inside your house, it's going to be down to almost negligible amount of that. But you have to stay in that area. You have to keep dust and air circulation from happening. And there's other things, food and water. And then what happens after, you know, 48 hours to a week, is that, you know, the radioactive material that falls down at that point in time, what kind of half-life are we looking at? Is it still going to be dangerous outside? um, you know, the, the radioactive material that falls down at that point in time, uh, what kind of half-life are we looking at? Is it still going to be dangerous outside?

It'll be so small that you can pretty much life can go on as normal. Oh, after a week, you're not going to detect much of this. Uh, again, Shane Connor, K I for you has something simple called a nuke alert. If you have this, it's a small uh device that you

can put on a keychain and if it gets to uh hazardous levels uh this thing will start beeping so if you have one of these you don't need a geiger counter which detects radiation what you what you have to have some idea of of what your exposure is and if this thing doesn't beep you're okay if you're in the middle of your house you're okay if you're in the basement of your house you're okay uh gamma gamma rays are the shortest on the uh atomic spectrum but they're the most powerful but the wonderful thing about it is for every foot they travel they quarter so it gets down to 10 foot you've got a negligible level if you keep the dust out of your house if you keep your air from the the ventilation system off and it might be a miserable

couple of days, but you have to decide what do you want to live or not? Of course you may not have power anyway. Wow. That's not up to maybe taking that. It wouldn't. But that, uh, when we talk about K I for you, potassium iodide for you, uh, how is that, is that K I is it the number four or does he spell it out? It's K I, uh, four is, is what, what it is.

Okay. The thyroid gland has a nasty habit of collecting radiation. It, and your thyroid gland controls all your body hormones. If you have that, it, and it can literally, uh, incapacitate you. Potassium iodine takes the place of, it keeps nuclear radiation that's in your body, that's circulating in your blood, keeps it from being absorbed by the thyroid gland. And so you literally pass it out when you urinate.

Yeah. So you want to make sure that it doesn't get absorbed by the thing. It's going to keep it and then get cancerous and start causing all kinds of problems for your body. That's the whole idea behind the, the iodine potassium iodine is to fill that capacity, you know, fill it up so it can't absorb anything else. And then you can pass it out. Let me tell you the David Knight show you can listen to with your ears. You can even watch it by using your eyes. In fact, if you can hear me, that means you're listening to The David Knight Show right now.

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