The David Knight Show - 8Feb24 David Knight Show UNABRIDGED

Episode Date: February 8, 2024

(2:00) War & TreasureZelensky has moved the goalposts (the border) INTO RUSSIAMassive amount of weapons missing in UkraineMassie resists more spending and is labelled "anti-semitic filth"USA at wa...r with Russia, Iran — and Americans (in a cold war)Bankers start the war, but EU banks are breaking the sanctions(24:23) Pharma Phraud Court rules that refusing to wear a mask is NOT political speech — but it ISLawsuit over pregnant woman who was murdered by the Trump White House hospital murder protocols — ventilator and Remdesivir against her will.1-5 deaths now from heart diseasemRNA killed 14X's more people than saved says peer-reviewed studyLarge geriatric practice saw 3X increase in deaths AFTER TrumpShotsBiden pressured Amazon to censor books questioning medical dictates — and he uses the same excuse as Trump(1:10:03) Musk goes all in on Carbon Taxes — he ALWAYS has considered them more important than government subsidies for his green ventures. Will Musk control MAGA for the Climate MacGuffin as Trump did for the Pandemic MacGuffin?(1:20:46) Sound the Climate Alarm!Drought in Amazon, flood in CaliforniaUpdate on Michael Mann's hockey stick fraud trialBiden & Band of America go for more coal production — but NOT to be used in America but by the nations who are allowed energy use based on UN treatyTaylor Swift shamed into selling ONE of her private jets by a college student who tracks her emissions(1:33:58) INTERVIEW: Will Neo-Mercantilism Bring Down the Potemkin Economies in China & US Tony Arterburn, DavidKnight.gold — The petrodollar is officially dead, commercial real estate is collapsing in both US & China and Trump's campaign rhetoric about massive tariffs of 60% against China, 10% against other countries. What is mercantilism, and is it back in fashion?(2:03:00) INTERVIEW: "Not Stolen" - Debunking Marxist Myths About the New World Historian Jeff Fynn-Paul takes on the foundational myths of the current attacks on history — including shutting down scientific exhibits about early Native Americans in the NY Museum of Natural History. His book "Not Stolen: The Truth About European Colonialism in the New World" reveals the truth about what happened in North and South America(2:51:00) Super Hero vs Super Bowl Quarterback: Only One Can Handle the Pressure An interesting contrast in how celebrities handle their high pressure, high visibility failures — or are crushed by themFind out more about the show and where you can watch it at TheDavidKnightShow.comIf you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-showOr you can send a donation throughMail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @DavidKnightShow@protonmail.comCash App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Money is only what YOU hold: Go to DavidKnight.gold for great deals on physical gold/silverFor 10% off Gerald Celente's prescient Trends Journal, go to TrendsJournal.com and enter the code KNIGHTBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.

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Starting point is 00:01:30 builds up his credentials with the MAGA people. And will they fall for it again? Will they fall for Musk and the climate MacGuffin as they fell for Trump with a pandemic MacGuffin. It's okay because he's going to own the libs. He's going to fund a lawsuit for an actress who was kicked out by Disney because she purged for her conservative politics. So we're going to also begin by talking about what is happening with the war. Ukraine has now moved the goalposts, actually literally moved the border, if you will, into Russia. thank Guard Goldsmith for doing a great job. Guard at Liberty Conspiracy on Rockfin, and you can also find him at mrctv.org.
Starting point is 00:02:46 He's also on Substack, and it was chaotic a couple of days. Had another heart issue, and so guard filled in for us at the last moment. Always does a fantastic job. I'm always reassured when I have guard do it. But as I said, it was chaotic. We didn't get,
Starting point is 00:03:04 and I want to apologize to people about the podcast. We did not get Tuesday's podcast up until 9 p.m. last night. So everything's been kind of hectic here. But let's get back on track. Let's talk about what's going on in Ukraine. Zelensky has now moved the goalpost, the border, if you will. He believes that there is territory inside Russia that belongs to him as well. And I said this when the 2014 coup happened.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Because you always see this, don't you, with these dictators. That they can declare their independence and their right of self-governance from Russia. Russia said, okay. And then when Ukraine, when Crimea said, another area, said we'd like to stay with Russia because culturally we identify with them more and other reasons, they said, no, no, can't do that. Can't do that. It's kind of like the U.S who got their independence from great britain and then when
Starting point is 00:04:07 some states said well we would like to uh govern ourselves and again the reason is uh reason was terrorists the reason was the fourth um not the fourth industrial revolution but the industrial revolution uh a fourth turning at that time and of course slavery was an aspect of that it wasn't the aspect that everybody makes it uh but um it was an aspect of it nevertheless uh they had nearly had secession about 30 years earlier based on tariffs and things like that so they said well we're going to go our own way no you're not no you're not they said and um as a matter of fact part of virginia that we now call west virgin Virginia was so strongly union. They said, well, if you're Virginia is going to leave the union,
Starting point is 00:04:50 we don't want to leave the union. And so West Virginia did the same thing that the people in Crimea did. And yet the Confederacy, unlike Ukraine, the Confederacy said, okay, you can have your own say they let them create their own state west virginia which still exists to this day uh so it's um when you look at this of course ukrainian values are the values of the u.s government they will kill anybody uh you know if you leave i'll kill you as eric peters Peters said. That's basically what we're talking about with secession. So they continued to bomb those areas for eight years until Russia invaded.
Starting point is 00:05:32 And so what we have now is a government that wants a war with Russia. We have a government that wants a war with Iran. And we have a government that is at war with us. A cold war, but they are at war with us. Everything about our way of life are invading us with foreigners. Barbarians are inside the gate. And we know who let them in. And it's an intentional thing.
Starting point is 00:05:59 They're rewarding them. They're financially incentivizing them. That's something that even Rome didn't do. So this American empire is circling the drain and the war in ukraine is circling the drain as well and so what he does is he ups the ante and projects you see what nato has been saying is that we've got to really uh step up the effort here in Ukraine. Because if Ukraine loses, how many times have you heard this from U.S. and European politicians? If Ukraine loses, Russia is going to march right through Europe.
Starting point is 00:06:36 This absurd domino incrementalism that they used to sell people the Vietnam War. Well, hey, if it works, you just keep using that same trick, right? And so at the end of January, Zelensky signed a decree on, quote, Russian territories historically inhabited by Ukrainians. He says this is the restoration of truth about the historical past for the sake of Ukraine's future. The government will also have to debunk Russian myths about Ukraine, he said, and develop interaction between Ukrainians and the peoples enslaved by Russia.
Starting point is 00:07:10 You see, right now, the Russian border and their version of history is just fake. It's misinformation. It's disinformation. And they're going to wage an information war to convince everybody that these areas that have been under Russia for quite some time really belong to Ukraine. For centuries, Russia, he said, has systematically committed and continues to commit acts aimed at destroying Ukrainian national identity, oppressing Ukrainians, violating their rights and freedoms, including on lands which they had historically inhabited uh this is again projection it is the lenski in Ukraine which are trying to eradicate all Russian culture uh look at the church for example you know the um the Russian
Starting point is 00:07:58 church that is there which originally began in Ukraine but they, when there was a war in Ukraine, they moved further into Russia and the Russian Orthodox church that had origins in Ukraine was still heavily established in Ukraine. Zelensky has made that church now illegal after many, many, many centuries. And, uh, locking people up, locking a clergy up, stealing their property and all the rest of this stuff. It is complete projection. And that's what this globalist establishment led by the United States does. It is just, yeah, it is a policy of war and disinformation.
Starting point is 00:08:39 And at the same time, there's over a billion dollars of weapons missing in Ukraine based on an audit from the DOD inspector general. And this is an audit just of small weapons, small weapons. And so they began what they called enhanced end use monitoring techniques in order to safeguard key weapons, high-tech weapons that are small, easily transported. So this is what this is about. And falling under the auspices of this is about $1.7 billion worth of weapons. And guess what? A billion dollars of that is missing, 60%.
Starting point is 00:09:21 60% is missing. That's a little bit better than last year. Last year, they were missing 86% when they did the audit. Where's this stuff going? It's going to be used to fund chaos and fund terrorism because that's what American policy is all about. That's what American policy has been about for decades. Funding chaos and terrorism around the world and supplying the weapons for terrorists around the world.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Go back and look at Iran-Contra. Look at the abandonment of all of these weapons in Afghanistan. Look at how they created even more chaos in their war against Libya. 59% delinquency rates and improvement
Starting point is 00:10:06 over the 86% of weapons that were unaccounted for in December of 2022. So they just finished this in December of 2023. Uh, the Biden administration has sent over $75 billion to Ukraine since February of 2022. Actually, it's more than that. This is, um, coming from zero hedge. That is, uh, they spent sent over more than that this is um coming from zero hedge that is uh they've spent sent over more than 100 billion uh but according to their stats 44 billion of that 75 billion that they have is in military aid so if we're gonna have a lot of that go missing as it has been going
Starting point is 00:10:41 missing and we've been sending stuff to ukraine since 2014 and some of the people who have been involved with that have said you know yeah massive amount of this stuff goes has gone missing for the last decade you know it's gone missing for eight years then we upped the ante but you know think 60 to 80 percent of this stuff well anywhere from 26 billion dollars worth of weapons to $35 billion worth of weapons just missing. Who knows? It's more than nearly all the amount of missing weapons in Ukraine. It is more than the entire budget for defense of most nations.
Starting point is 00:11:23 That's how insane this is. We are the epicenter of chaos, war, sexual depravity, drug use, everything else. America is. America. Think about that. So, you know, as we saw in afghanistan everything even big helicopter left behind the u.s military industrial complex is like some kind of a global cluster bomb you know that's the thing about the cluster bombs they wanted to outlaw those because they would put these you
Starting point is 00:11:58 know this thing would explode put out a bunch of little tiny bombs all over the place to just go off at various times and massive civilian casualties involved in that. Well, when we go into war, we shoot so many weapons in and they get transferred and sold and stolen and all the rest of the stuff in a black market. Every war that we get involved in is like a gigantic cluster bomb, but with billions of dollars, tens of billions of dollars of weapons up for grabs, going everywhere, creating war and chaos around the planet, all for the profits of the military industrial complex and the politicians
Starting point is 00:12:40 that they own and pay the So Thomas Massey says, without control of the senator of the White House, the only viable way for House Republicans to countermand this administration's harmful policies is to use the power of the purse. And behind the scenes, though, most of this leverage of the power of purse is being abandoned in exchange for more military funding
Starting point is 00:13:03 because the Republicans are going to always rubber stamp that they want more military funding no matter what. Got to have it. And I understand that defense is one of the few, very, very, very few legitimate functions of the federal government. But as we see with the border, and as we've known for the longest time, our so-called defense policies are not about defending America. They make us less safe everywhere.
Starting point is 00:13:33 They make the world less safe. This is about the love of money, the root of all evil. Birdhouse Blue says, I wouldn't be surprised if the Hodies in yemen made a straw man purchase of missing armaments and use it against our own military in the red sea of course i wouldn't be surprised either uh we've seen that type of thing when they confiscate weapons and then what they say is uh you know we saw that with isis they said well we didn't give those weapons to isis they just
Starting point is 00:14:05 bought them on the black market what's the difference but we know they gave them to them they arm both sides uh they arm uh both sides in every conflict so uh if you push back against the military industrial complex here's what you get uh john potter ets says um that uh thomas massey is quote anti-semitic filth unquote why because he opposed another 14.3 billion dollars for israel he said on x on twitter uh thomas massey said the speaker just announced that next week the house will vote on a clean bill to send israel 14.3 billion israel has a lower debt to gdp ratio than the u.s this spending package has no offsets so it will increase our debt by 14.3 billion dollars plus interest i'm a no and he says most of this money will go directly to the u.s military industrial complex which if you're keeping up prefers to be referred to as the defense industrial base now oh i wasn't keeping up
Starting point is 00:15:12 with that uh it's necessary to rebrand when people start to realize what you're about that's why the liberals you know they stole the name liberal from people who really cared about liberty at the time that was liberal used to mean somebody who put liberty first but they stole that label around a time of woodrow wilson and they called themselves uh progressive but you know well let's go with liberal so they stayed with liberal and um then eventually they come back around to other labels you know they've come back now to progressive because liberal has been so discredited that's what the military industrial complex is doing uh well everybody hates the military industrial complex so let's not call ourselves that we're now the defense industrial base he
Starting point is 00:15:53 says watch for those stocks to go up on monday he said one clarification the bill will spend over 17 billion dollars but some of it goes to replace weapons that we have given to israel and some of it goes for other random costs in the middle east in addition to this 17 plus billion dollar bill we will probably give them the customary three plus billion dollars and the omnibus bill well that was more than john potteritz could stand and said, of course, you're a no. You disingenuous piece of anti-Semitic filth. Well, John Potterets is an anti-American racist piece of filth himself, quite frankly. Not only is he anti-American racist filth, but he pushes war and murder.
Starting point is 00:16:50 But Thomas Massey wrote back and he said, so now if I don't vote for massive foreign aid that goes primarily to the military industrial complex, I'm anti-Semitic filth. Your unfounded slurs will not change my vote because America is broke and my constituents can afford no more. And quite frankly, you know, criticizing, as I've said many, many times, criticizing the secular globalist Davos vaccine, pushing surveillance, tracking pushing, CBDC pushing government of Israel is not being anti-Semitic. That government is anti-Semitic. That Netanyahu used his own people as lab rats. I've played the thing for you many times
Starting point is 00:17:38 where he calls up Davos and he brags about how he's using his people as lab rats. That's anti-Semitism, folks. I'm with the Orthodox Jews on this. God gave them the land. He took them off of the land because of the way they responded to him. And he will put them back and he'll do it himself miraculously. In the meantime, you've got a globalist government that does everything it can to suppress the
Starting point is 00:18:08 religious Jews and to oppress them and to fight them wherever they see them. The House passed a bill November 2nd to send $14.3 billion in aid to Israel, but it was rejected by the Democrat-led Senate. In the House, it was a vote of 250 yays to 880 nays, getting a majority but failing to meet the two-thirds requirement to pass a bill under suspension of the rules. So that is where we are right now. And it't just thomas massey there's some other republicans like chip roy who said i cannot send 17.6 billion to israel without paying for it given that we are bleeding two trillion dollars a year said chip roy well that doesn't matter as long as we've got something that somebody in foreign country decides that they are entitled to.
Starting point is 00:19:06 That they can steal from us. That they can try to get our elected representatives thrown out if they oppose that theft. I guess we should just kiss their ring, huh? Biden, meanwhile, pulls a Trump. Writes Zero Hedge. These guys are more alike than most people will admit and so now biden has assassinated uh a iran-backed militia leader in baghdad again these guys are on the same page more than anyone wants to admit b and Trump. Tweedledee and Tweedledum, especially for the people who support them.
Starting point is 00:19:47 So it's not a surprise at all, frankly. Travagline, thank you very much for the tip. It says, our corrupt criminal government is trying to make it illegal for Americans to form militias. Yes. Totally unconstitutional uh s.3589 preventing private paramilitary activity act of 2024 yes i briefly talked about that um and i'm sure we'll have more to say about that they are trying to outlaw guns they're trying to outlaw the militia which as i said before when i
Starting point is 00:20:21 talked about this i said if you look at the, when they talk about a well-regulated militia, that means that the government, if anything, ought to be equipping and training the militia, as they do in Switzerland. They equip and train the militia. They're not doing that for some reason. I wonder why. When a government doesn't trust you with weapons, what does that tell you about that government? What does it tell you about Joe Biden that he continually threatens us with F-16s? Oh, yeah? You want your gun?
Starting point is 00:20:51 Well, we got F-16s. Brian and Deb McCartney, I'm going to start calling these Zionist anti-American filth. Yep. The AAF. Instead of the ADL. There we go. We could... The AAF. Instead of the ADL. There we go. The AAF.
Starting point is 00:21:18 The US and NATO have become the new fourth Reich, destroying the world while claiming innocence. This is from a guy. I saw his name, Drago. I thought, wait, is this the guy at the Navy SEAL that I interviewed? No, he was Drago Dazararian. This is Drago Bosnik. He says, you know, you look at Pepe Escobar, a Brazilian journalist. He often calls the U.S. a rogue superpower. He goes, well, that's not an exaggeration. He says,
Starting point is 00:21:43 it's actually worse. It's just a rogue superpower. He says, we're barely a month into 2024. And here's Washington, DC already bombing half a dozen countries, threatening at least that many more. This includes Syria,
Starting point is 00:21:58 Iraq, Yemen. Well, nobody's even reporting on drone strikes all across Africa and in the middle East, including occasional attacks on Afghanistan. They're also threatening Iran, Venezuela, several other countries in Latin America, including Mexico. On February the 4th, U.S. National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan refused to rule out
Starting point is 00:22:16 the possibility of strikes inside of Iran. On February the 3rd, the U.K. also joined the aggression. To put it simply, there was an attack on American soldiers in Jordan, or maybe it was in Syria. So Washington, D.C. is bombing Syria and Iraq. Yeah, exactly. I mean, it was on the border. There was a base that was on the Jordanian side of the border, another base that's in Syria. What do we have bases in Syria for?
Starting point is 00:22:44 Well, because we are a rogue superpower or alternatively the fourth reich major european banks meanwhile uh are at the center of a new scandal looks like they were evading the iran sanctions imagine that you know bankers are always running war for profit aren't't they? And yet, when it comes to the sanctions, oh, they're still going to make their cut. They're still going to make some money out of this. And so we've got some of the biggest banks, one of them, Lloyds of London,
Starting point is 00:23:14 or I guess we could just call them Lords of London. Lords of London is a part of this banking scandal. They've worked away about how, uh, they start these wars for profit and then, uh, they don't participate in them. They don't even stop selling stuff. Even when, uh, there is a economic sanction, we're going to take a quick break and we come back. We're going to talk about the pharmaceutical issues we got lawsuits about more medical murder
Starting point is 00:23:48 and i hope we see a lot of these but at least one more has come we'll be right back tell alexa to add the aps radio skill and have access to the best channels anywhere from country to blues classic hits to news aps radio curates incredibly diverse playlists for you to enjoy get details at apsradio.com so using free speech to free minds it's the david knight show yeah uh i went 61 so i thought drago was the russian guy from rocky four actually it was a nickname of the navy seal that i interviewed but think the Navy SEAL could probably take that guy. He not only was a Navy SEAL, but he trained Navy SEALs. But yeah, this other guy is writing this
Starting point is 00:24:53 op-ed piece. If you're not wearing a mask, a New Jersey appeals court says that's not free speech. Yeah, see the mask order gags not only you literally but it also gags your free speech you can't do that as a protest how is that different maybe what we should do is burn our masks you know like the american flag that's uh free speech they say so just take your mask off and burn it at the grocery store burn it at the restaurant when they ask you oh yeah you want to see my mask you pull it up there and keep it lighter. Uh, a federal appeals court shot down claims money that New Jersey residents refusal to wear face mask at school board meetings during COVID supposedly
Starting point is 00:25:37 outbreak, this is from the AP. Uh, they did not say supposedly I'm saying it, uh, constituted protected speech under the first amendment this is the third circuit court of appeals these lawsuits revolved around claims that the plaintiffs were retaliated against by school boards because they refused to wear masks during public meetings in one of the suits the court sent the case back to lower court for consideration and the other one it just dismissed it saying the plaintiff failed to show that she was retaliated against. Still, the court found that refusing to wear a mask during public health emergency did not amount to free speech protected by the Constitution.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Well, it actually does. Courts get things wrong all the time, don't they? I mean, they've left us at the mercy of the TSA. They've left us at the mercy of SWAT teams, all the rest of this stuff. They've left us at the mercy of the TSA. They left us at the mercy of SWAT teams, all the rest of this stuff. They've left us at the mercy of the NSA and the CIA. They don't enforce the Bill of Rights. None whatsoever. If they do, they do a very limited scope protection
Starting point is 00:26:38 of the Bill of Rights at best. The court found that refusing to wear it was not protected by the Constitution. Here's what they said, quote, a question shadowing suits such as these is whether there is a First Amendment right to refuse to wear a protective mask. We conclude there is not. Well, you're wrong. That's your opinion. That's why they call it an opinion. And courts get it wrong all the time. Look, the masks, as we all know, and knew from the beginning,
Starting point is 00:27:11 the masks were political, not medical. Refusing to do political obeisance is a protest protected by the free speech. It's just that simple. This is not complicated. This is a lie coming at you from the Third Circuit Court of Appeals. It was never medical. As I said many times, I talked about it at the time.
Starting point is 00:27:37 Talked about this in early 2020 when they started this stuff. So do you realize that in 2002, when they started all this SARS stuff in Asia, and people started wearing masks, and then people started selling these N95 masks, it wasn't the hokey, you know, you got a Lone Ranger bandana that you can put over your face. That's absolute nonsense. I mean, have you ever seen any doctors wearing a bandana and surgery? And as I pointed out in 2002, uh,
Starting point is 00:28:13 the eminent scientist that was there, she had published a lot of things. She had discovered a Parvo and other things like that. Anyway, she said, uh, um, you may think that everybody,
Starting point is 00:28:23 all these doctors are wearing these masks in surgery, but they're not. Many of them don't wear it and it doesn't make any difference whatsoever. And she said, what we have found is that first of all, everybody knows that the airborne particles are going to go right through an N95 mask. Secondly, she said, if you say that it is to protect against spittle after 20 minutes, the mask becomes so saturated with spittle that you still get the particles sent out. And yet they're smaller, which means that they're airborne longer and travel farther. So it actually makes things worse. And so at the time in New South Wales, the government said, based on her stuff, and this is in 2002 when everybody in Asia was wearing the masks,
Starting point is 00:29:06 they said, if you try to sell somebody a mask, telling them that it's going to protect them, we're going to fine you. And I think it was something like a hundred thousand Australian dollars. It was a significant fine, significant. And yet 20 years later, New South Wales with Gladys Baird Jekyll was one of the worst places to force people to wear masks. It was always political. It was never medical.
Starting point is 00:29:31 It never had a chance of working, especially when you talk about masks and say, well, if you just take a piece of cloth and put it over your face. Mask was never even defined. They didn't even try to make it medical. It was always political it was always an act of submission and it was always in defiance of informed consent it was always if you will a violation of the presumption of innocence because in this particular case being guilty means that you're sick they don't determine that you're sick they were doing this to everyone,
Starting point is 00:30:05 healthy people included, just like the lockdowns. The court said skeptics are free to and did voice their opposition through multiple means, but disobeying a masking requirement is not one of them. And they gave some examples. They said, well, you can't refuse to wear a motorcycle helmet. See, we've been going down this road and setting this table for a very long time, and not just with the annual war games that began in 2001 with Dark Winter, two months before 9-11. We've been setting this for the longest time, decades, many, many, many decades before that, by prioritizing safety over liberty.
Starting point is 00:30:40 You know, things like seatbelt mandates, mandates airbag mandates and all the rest of this stuff and many other things and they talk about motorcycle uh helmet like if i rode a motorcycle i'd wear a helmet but you know even then i wouldn't feel safe enough um to ride a motorcycle uh that's my personal choice it's somebody else's personal choice if they what they want to do um and we don't uh we don't get to tell people make these public choices over the individual's choice for what they want to do for health do we interestingly enough these are the same people typically who not only push for abortion and say well my body my choice but they will also push for government-assisted suicide so if they're going to push for government-assisted suicide why not allow somebody to ride a motorcycle
Starting point is 00:31:33 without a helmet that's that's about that's getting pretty close isn't it um as many of us would believe but uh they won't allow that either then any state won't they are it's not about safety it's not about safety it's about control an attorney for the officials said the winning side the people who are saying no you got to wear a mask it's not a political statement to refuse to wear this so this attorney who was defending that says that um uh refusing to wear a mask in violation of a public health mandate is not the sort of civil disobedience that the drafters of the first amendment had in mind as protected speech this guy's name is eric harrison well eric do you think they envisioned medical martial law. I think if the founders saw what Trump was doing with Fauci
Starting point is 00:32:28 and his whole administration in 2020, I think the founders would be spinning in their grave. Anything more un-American than what the Trump White House did in 2020 and bragged, and he bragged about it, continued to brag about it. A mom is suing a hospital after her daughter died from forced ventilator and remdesivir treatment that she did not want. 39-year-old woman who was pregnant. He had developed pneumonia and she was very concerned, told her mom that she did not want to be put on a ventilator
Starting point is 00:33:08 didn't want this other stuff and he said they'll kill me if they put me on that and they did they medically kidnapped her killed her and stop and think about the fact with this force ventilator trump paid these people to do this. Trump, the Trump administration, and Donald Trump himself, bragged about this over and over again. He paid them. He paid to have the ventilators made.
Starting point is 00:33:39 He portrayed himself as a hero in all of this. And then he paid the hospitals $39,000 to put somebody on there, then paid them every day, and then gave them a 20% bonus over what they normally would have charged for all that. Remdesivir as well. Remdesivir was Fauci's pet project. He had tried to get this authorized for use for AIDS. He tried to do it for Ebola.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Everybody said, you're crazy. This doesn't work. And it kills people and um you know it causes um um the same type of thing that happened to her um and that is um kidney failure it's a remdesivir kills people kidney failure and it doesn't do anything and he and so fauci did his own un own unpeer reviewed test and declared it to be the standard of, uh, of treatment and defiance of all that the guy that Trump gave a metal to at the end of all this stuff, the mother of a Michigan woman who was
Starting point is 00:34:39 given remdesivir and died after being forced into a ventilator, uh, is raising funds for the wrong full death lawsuit too bad trump won't give her thirty nine thousand dollars willie for the lawsuit now he paid the hospital to kill her jessica died in december 2021 and this is again that was uh biden was president but this is the perverse incentives that were put in by trump that were maintained by biden you see it's a tag team match well he was it if it was from trump maga's okay with it it's just 4d chess right uh so um yeah biden continued it just like biden continued gun control by executive order just just like Biden continued Trump's pistol brace ban.
Starting point is 00:35:27 She died from kidney failure, collapsed lung, multiple strokes, and finally brain hemorrhaging 10 days after she delivered her baby via C-section. LifeSite News reports that the hospital basically kidnapped Jessica, isolated her from her husband, gave her treatments that not only weren't necessary, but against her explicit wishes. We've seen this over and over again. The father whose daughter had that done to her. And it'll be interesting to see what happens.
Starting point is 00:36:03 That case is coming up in the fall of this year and he has the judge has allowed it to be considered that not just medical malpractice but malicious murder which is what this is trump murdered people he paid these hospitals to murder them how is that not murder? You pay somebody? This is murder for hire. Just like Fauci paid Planned Parenthood to kill babies so he could get their body parts and use them. And his humanized mice. So the law firm that is talking to LifeSite News. The organization is
Starting point is 00:36:48 Julie Schlipp is the one who is, that LifeSite is reporting her perspective on this. She said Jessica, who was perfectly healthy and only 39 years old at the time, was aware of the dangers of remdesivir and ventilators. She said, if they vent me, I won't make it out of here, she repeatedly told her husband. She was transported by ambulance to Trinity Health 20 minutes north later that evening, but within days, her oxygen levels began to improve, rising to the mid-90s with help from prayerful mediation, but also a CPAP machine. She even texted her eldest daughter that she was
Starting point is 00:37:23 doing pretty good, quote unquote. But the hospital was insistent that she was doing pretty good, quote unquote. But the hospital was insistent that she needed to go on a ventilator. After initially refusing, she was told that in order to deliver the baby, she would have to be put on one. Shlip explains, she says, it doesn't make any sense why they needed to have her on a ventilator for a c-section but jessica wanted to do whatever was needed to ensure her baby lived she didn't have a choice so we're not going to do the c-section unless you let us ventilate you that's 39 000 plus 20 on everything they do including the c-section right purely mercenary that's what hospitals have become they're owned by giant corporations a few corporations own most all of the hospitals now completely mercenary killers murder for hire
Starting point is 00:38:15 slip says before giving birth jessica attempted to put the ventilator pull the ventilator tubes out of her throat um and um the hospital says well um she wasn't conscious at the time so we strapped her arms and legs down to prevent that from happening um they would say that wouldn't they he went why why is she why are arms and legs strapped down oh well she was trying to pull that out but she she didn't know it. She was unconscious at the time. And then when it comes to remdesivir, the records show that she was given remdesivir four times, but a staffer said, no, no, she refused it. We didn't give her that at all.
Starting point is 00:39:00 So it wasn't the remdesivir that caused the kidney failure. The lung collapse was not caused by the ventilators. The strokes were not caused by remdesivir either. Now, what are you going to believe? Are you going to believe the record that they put down they gave her four doses of remdesivir, or are you going to believe the staffer? Somebody's lying about something.
Starting point is 00:39:22 Either somebody put that in the record four times so they could charge the government, right? Remdesivir is thousands of dollars. And so, plus they're going to get a 20% bonus on that because they got her vented. But you're going to believe the record? Or are you going to believe the staffer? Now, if they didn't give her the remdesivir, then that means that they fraudulently got paid.
Starting point is 00:39:51 Or did they give her the remdesivir in order to get paid against her explicit wishes? It's kind of a difficult position there, don't you think, for these people in that lawsuit? So this is where these criminals are at the moment. These murderers are at the moment. A British medical, or rather the British media, UK's Channel 4 News, warns of a, quote, silent killer. Sudden cardiac death.
Starting point is 00:40:26 They're doing reports on it, but of course, nobody will focus and point the finger at the vaccine. And we all know that's what it is. There's no other explanation for it. And we look at this and the people who support Trump will just shake their heads. How dishonest. Can't they make the connection? Can't they make the connection? Won't they make the connection?
Starting point is 00:40:49 Many of them know better. And yet, these people who know that about the vaccine will not make the connection to Trump. Don't they know better? Why won't they do it? In November of 2023, UK's Channel 4 News ran a segment called Sudden Cardiac Death Affecting 12 Young People Every Week. What is this silent killer? We don't know.
Starting point is 00:41:15 Can't imagine what it is. Maybe I should, you know, this is... Who is in the area? Who has a... What has changed? What's the motivation? Oh, you talk, who is in the area? Who has a, what has changed? What's the motivation? Oh, you talk about that. You're not doing investigation.
Starting point is 00:41:29 You're now conspiracy theorist. Well, because we know that it was a conspiracy, conspiracy between the Trump administration, big pharmaceutical companies, the military industrial complex, the health bureaucracies. It was a vast conspiracy. So the network wrote in the description of the program, it's been described as a silent killer of young, seemingly fit people.
Starting point is 00:41:51 The charity Cardiac Risk and the Young. See, somebody's already created a charity to make money off of this. And they won't identify what it is. They estimate that every week at least 12 people aged between 14 and 35 suffer sudden cardiac death. And 1 in 300 may carry the condition. The Channel 4 added, a leading pathologist has told this program they believe those figures are an underestimate. The mother of one young woman who died is campaigning for grassroots sports clubs to give young athletes who are potentially at most for at risk the most to give them mandatory heart screening by specialists. And of course, you see this happening in some schools.
Starting point is 00:42:35 You know, from junior high school on up. That was never a thing before they coerced young athletes into getting the shot so that they could play but notice how they will do heart screenings but they're not going to really care about stopping the cause or identifying the cause just like with autism well we'll create support networks and charities to help people with autism but we don't really want to know why this is exploding. It's amazing how pharmaceutical companies can buy off people like Tucker Carlson to look the other way and then brag, oh, you mean they're buying influence with the people that were paying me $25 million a year? I had no idea. No idea. Hillary Nichols, the mother
Starting point is 00:43:23 of one deceased girl, said her athletic daughter died abruptly during a hiking trip with her friends. An American doctor happened to be there to provide care, but the doctor reportedly said that from the moment she began to try and to give treatment for over 30 minutes, she already knew that Clarissa had passed. She said nothing could have helped it even then because it's such a big explosion that happens in the heart but there was no sign of anything before this it's just a shock she said and as they point out in wine press news they said though the segment never once never once addressed the who the what the where why, the how of any of these types of deaths?
Starting point is 00:44:08 Thousands of people in the comment section attributed this to the Trump shots. Oh, she says COVID vaccines. It's the Trump shots. Donnie wants a credit? Give Donnie the credit. He's going to carry the burden of those, how many millions, how many tens of millions of deaths. That's on his head.
Starting point is 00:44:31 God will hold him accountable for that because he doesn't do anything with his sin. He doesn't think he's got any. That sin just is the wrath of God abides on that man and increases every day, every day. One in five deaths in the U.S. caused by heart disease now. COVID-19 claimed the third highest number of lives, they said, in 2021. Now, were those people who died from COVID or died with a PCR test where they magnified this 1.1 trillion times. And you can find anything if you magnify it that high, said the man who invented it,
Starting point is 00:45:11 who conveniently died a few months before they kicked this whole thing off. mRNA shots have killed 14 times more people than were saved. This is a peer-reviewed study. Study concludes that for every life saved, there were nearly 14 times more deaths caused by the mRNA injections. And this person at Technocracy News has a comment, a bioterrorist couldn't have done any better.
Starting point is 00:45:43 And that's what I call these people who developed and administered this. Trump developed it. Biden administered it. It's a tag team. He says, does this make you mad? It should. There were 230 million Americans, about 70% of our population, your friends, your family, your neighbors who are fully vaccinated globally, five and a half billion
Starting point is 00:46:05 people worldwide, 72% have received a Trump shot. Yeah. You know, MAGA loves Trump. Maybe, um, we need to change the definition of MAGA. Maybe we should call it murder again, or murder america gop again right let's let's do this all this again right it was a mass murder campaign of americans and worldwide but let's go with the gop again the gop which cheers trump which is afraid to call him out on this the gop which you know we know the Democrats want this.
Starting point is 00:46:48 The dangerous thing is when you think somebody is on your side and they're stabbing you in the back or in the arm or wherever they administer the vaccine. But, yeah, let's murder America again. MAGA. Peer-reviewed study says, given the well-documented serious adverse events and the unacceptable harm-to-reward ratio, we urge governments to endorse and to enforce a global moratorium on these mRNA products until all relevant questions pertaining to causality, residual DNA, and aberrant protein production are answered the authors also recommended an immediate removal of the vaccines from the childhood immunization schedule pointing out the children were at very low risk from infection and that's what they told us all the way through right why did they push for kids they push for kids for their legal immunity you know that's why they were playing this game of cormonati versus the Pfizer-BioNTech, you know, saying they're legally distinct and so forth. That was all there to preserve their legal immunity under the PrEP Act.
Starting point is 00:47:52 But they needed to push it and make it part of the childhood vaccine schedule in order to go back to the blanket immunity of the 1986 Act, one of Fauci's first betrayalsals of America one of the first things he did and so don't you remember at the very beginning of this one that you had to get the vaccine to protect your elderly relatives because they were the only ones who were at risk and I said at the time uh if this was a real disease that was being passed around, it wouldn't be focused strictly on the elderly. You know, even when you look at their past, when they try to sell pandemics and epidemics in the past, they didn't do that. It was evenly, the deaths were evenly distributed over all age groups. I said, this looks exactly like the life expectancy charts that you see. And, you know, the average age of the people that were dying was past life expectancy and they had two and a half comorbidities that was the case
Starting point is 00:48:51 two weeks worth of data in italy and it continued to be that way all the way through and yet they had to do it to the kids because it was about legal immunity for killing people. Let's understand what this is, killing people. They don't like me to say that, you know. So I'm going to say it more. Got punished on the podcast for putting that in the title. Mass murder. Well, they just shut me down, even though I've been there for years. I've been on that podcast for six years.
Starting point is 00:49:28 They said, well, we just marketed a spam and took it off. And we fought to get it back, and we did get it restored, but the damage was done in many ways. Damaged us financially, damaged the reach of the program, a lot of these other things. I'm not going to stop. This is mass murder. Mass murder. How can anybody pull back? How can any of these Trump-tards who bow before him and kiss his ring,
Starting point is 00:50:01 how can these people like Wayne Allen Root and alex jones and tucker carlson how can they cover this up how can they let these murderers go without any accountability calling them into question tim pool another one i'm so tired of hearing that was four years ago no pal tim pool people are still dying maybe you don't want to hear that. You do want to talk about your ballots and stuff like that for four years, don't you? Nobody died from your ballots. People died from Trump's shots. So the rushed vaccines, as part of the study said, guess what? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:39 You see, rushing vaccines through without doing any testing, that's nothing to brag about. Nothing at all to brag about. And yet he does. The problem is, you know, we save tens of millions of lives all over the world, but I can't talk about it because our base, our beautiful base of which some of you are there. You get angry when we mention the word vaccine. Don't get angry. You did everything you could to get this vaccine out. I know it was one of the greatest achievements. We did it angry. You did everything you could to get this vaccine out. I know where you found the vaccine.
Starting point is 00:51:05 It was one of the greatest achievements. We did it in less than nine months. To be able to do that. Yeah, it was wonderful. And look, I guess in a certain way, I'm the father of the vaccine because I was the one that pushed it. Yeah, and you heard Candace. Yeah, it's a great achievement. Really was a great...
Starting point is 00:51:20 Let me give you your reward for all that. It's a great achievement. Large geriatric practice reports three times increase, threefold increase in deaths after the COVID vaccines rolled out. This is from Steve Kirsch. He says, where are the success anecdotes? Where the all-cause mortality dramatically fell in a U.S. geriatric practice after these shots rolled out.
Starting point is 00:51:50 He said, all I can find are anecdotes like that from Deanna Klein, an RN with 35 years of experience who wrote a top-rated book on Amazon about what she observed in the large geriatric practice that she works at with thousands of elderly patients. In her practice, they would regularly see 8 to 10 deaths a year, up to and including the year of the pandemic, 2020. In 2022, they saw 36 deaths. In 2023, they saw 48 deaths.
Starting point is 00:52:23 They've never seen anything like this. And he said the chances of that happening by chance are astronomically low. He said this is not random bad luck. This kind of increase is caused by something, but nobody wants to look at what caused it. You know, they're now at the point where they can't deny what is happening to young people dying suddenly. They can't deny any of this stuff. They have done that for the longest time. Now what they're trying to do is to come up with, either just to acknowledge it and say we're going to screen people, kids to play sports,
Starting point is 00:53:00 or we're going to create these charity organizations or something like that, or they will try to come up with a different cause. But it was always there. And I reported that in January of 2021. There was a guy who was working in a nursing home, and he said, we didn't have anybody die throughout 2020. And that's what he says this nurse is saying. She said that they would usually have, um, eight to 10 deaths a year up to and including 2020.
Starting point is 00:53:30 That was nothing new. And that's what he said. He said, we kept these people. None of them got sick in 2020. And then in January, 2021, they rolled out the Trump shots. And he said, we got people dying all over the place. And he was crying about it crying about it and he said the ones that didn't die they're kind of in this fog
Starting point is 00:53:57 uh we knew this from the very beginning yeah this is now more than three years that we've known this nothing being done this nurse this rn says she knows all the cases and the people who died went downhill fast after getting the vaccine. It was the only common intervention amongst these patients. Everyone who died was vaccinated, but then most of the patients were vaccinated, so that's to be expected. But again, a threefold increase in mortality. Nothing to see. Just move on. New emails show that Amazon caved to the biden administration pressure
Starting point is 00:54:27 to censor covid books that expressed dissenting views well not really much a surprise since the biden administration is all about censorship and of course you know these people who cry crocodile tears saying oh the these conservatives look at them at the school boards, they're into book banning and book burning. They're a bunch of Nazis because people want to get rid of the porn books of children and to children that the schools are pushing on them and the libraries are pushing on them. That's not what we're talking about here. We're talking about real censorship.
Starting point is 00:55:03 We're talking about censorship of medical debate at a time when we're told that this is unprecedented and we have to take political action against people. It's never been done before. We have to force one kind of medical treatment. That's never been done before. We should have a medical debate about that. But any books that are written about that, any comments on social media, those are censored. And so this was done, of course, by Amazon. So you're not
Starting point is 00:55:28 surprised. I'm not surprised either. But stop and think about this for a moment, because what the Biden White House is saying is they said, well, you know, they didn't have to do it. We just suggested it. We didn't force anybody to do this. And that's exactly what the MAGA people say about Trump. They didn't force anybody to do it. This is the Democrat governors who did it. And so Reason Magazine says, well, was Amazon free to ignore this? Were they free to ignore the pressure campaign from the White House? To suppress anti-vaccine books? You see, this is what the Trump White House did. It pressured people.
Starting point is 00:56:10 It paid and bribed states to do all of these things. Lockdowns, social distancing, masks, vaccines. It paid the vaccine companies to develop the vaccines. It used the military to deliver the vaccines. But Trump's not to be held responsible for any of that. And now the Biden White House is saying, well, they were free to ignore what we asked them to do. We asked them to suppress this information so we wouldn't have a medical debate. And Amazon could ignore that if they wanted.
Starting point is 00:56:45 You see, you even hear Fauci saying, well, you know, I didn't force anybody to do it. Right. They pressured Amazon. The Amazon episode is reminiscent of a 1963 Supreme Court case that likewise involved the sale of books where government officials perceived the books as a public menace. In 1956, Rhode Island General Assembly created the Commission to Encourage Morality in Youth. Just the opposite of what it is today. We have commissions to encourage immorality of youth. But in this particular case that went to the Supreme Court, it was Bantam Books v. Solomon.
Starting point is 00:57:24 Rhode Island's cultural watchdogs would notify a distributor that certain books or magazines, according to Justice William Brennan, they wrote this as I'm quoting him. They would, quote, notify a distributor that certain books or magazines distributed by him had been reviewed by this commission and had been declared by a majority of its members to be objectionable for sale, distribution or display to youth under 18 years of age, unquote. One distributor, Max Silverstein and Sons, received at least 35 such notices, which typically, quote, thanked Silverstein in advance for his cooperation with the commission, unquote. To reinforce these warnings from the commission, a local police officer usually visited Silverstein shortly after Silverstein's receipt of a
Starting point is 00:58:05 notice in order to learn what action had been taken. So this is a clear intimidation, coercion, a real soft tyranny, if you will, but tyranny nevertheless, uh, by the way, we have a commission and a police officer comes by. Well, what are you doing about this? That type of thing. What if instead, what if instead of sending a uniformed police officer around, what if they sent a guy with a checkbook? Because that's the way that Trump did it, you see.
Starting point is 00:58:42 But of course, he's not to be held responsible for any of this stuff. None of it. 68 American colleges still have vaccine mandates in place. Harvard is the worst one. I wonder if they're copying the others. They're a plagiaristic president. And by the way, that mandate does not apply to the faculty or staff, just to the students. College mandates, no college mandates is the organization. And they said, quote, Harvard is the only Ivy League that still requires students to show proof that they have taken either the initial COVID vaccine series,
Starting point is 00:59:28 which is no longer available, or the most up-to-date booster, even though no such requirement exists for faculty and staff. There you go. Illustrate for life, I guess, is what this is. It's the number eight. Thank you very much for the tip. I appreciate that. Question one, do you know about the innovative zones where corporations are going to be free from government and taxes, pay in crypto and build what I think is a neo feudal company towns? I don't know. Is that what they're talking about doing in California? Because I don't really see California allowing that to happen. I know that there's a group of billionaires that have done that. And I know in the past, you've had libertarian organizations that have said, we need to have a seasteading community.
Starting point is 01:00:13 Let's set something that is in international waters, and it's floating out there, and it's under nobody's jurisdiction, so we can be completely free. My thing is, I don't think any, you know, the closest, if there's something there, the closest government to them is going to send a little Navy over and take that over and fleece them, I think is the way human nature works. So, you know, they better have the ability to defend themselves if they do something like that. Question two, it's a lot like what
Starting point is 01:00:45 disney is already doing in florida yes they um and that was one of the interesting things was when they got into they picked this fight over parental rights with the santas and it was the first time since um i was in high school that anybody in either party had ever questioned the idea of whether or not disney ought to be a government unto itself and of course they they were the reedy creek district there in orlando they went in secretly bought up all this um property using a lot of different shell corporations the same thing that gates is doing now with farmland and then um came to them in a block and said okay give us governmental power.
Starting point is 01:01:26 And so that way, you know, when something happens, somebody gets injured on a ride or something, they don't have to explain it to anybody. They can investigate themselves and keep it all under the mat. And nobody ever questioned that. Nobody ever questioned that until they picked the fight with DeSantis, and then that came up. And then question three, does this fall in line with libertarian values um i think uh
Starting point is 01:01:52 yes i think it does i think it falls in line with self-governance you know it'd be nice if there was some new world to go to uh which is the foundation of America for the most part. You know, there's this area where there was no organized government. You know, the Indian tribes did not have any organized government. They didn't claim to own the land or anything like that in that regard. And so they could just go in and set this up and live freely. And I think people would like to be able to do that today there just isn't anywhere they can go and i think uh whether you do it you know on um whether you
Starting point is 01:02:33 go in and secretly buy this stuff up you may be you know if you buy enough politicians you may be able to get away with what they did in florida and um from a libertarian standpoint, I mean, for the most part, the Reedy Creek district was pretty well run. And in terms of covering up any ride injuries or anything like that, that would happen. Government does that kind of stuff all the time. So it's not really that much different in terms of its flaws, but, um, you know, in terms of its, um, ability to operate efficiently, I'm sure that it was a lot more efficient than the other stuff. Um, Max B, uh, thank you for the tip. He says, David guard was great. Holding down the fort always is. He always is happy to see you're feeling better. I'm back steering the ship. I'll thank you.
Starting point is 01:03:23 Uh, Nick Ellenbecker says, With the VAX mandate, Harvard is ensuring no independent thinking people who question the official narrative attend their school. Well, that's right. They're not there to teach people critical thinking. They're there to make you part of the establishment. That's what Harvard is really about.
Starting point is 01:03:40 It's the only reason that you would go to Harvard. You can get the same books and get the same education somewhere else. And your education is not limited, of course, to what your professors do. I had to catch up when I went to college because I skipped all the math classes and everything. I mean, I skipped all the math class. Everybody was like, how did you graduate without taking a class? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:04:00 But I had to catch up. I had a lot of catch up to do and so uh what i did was um i got multiple math textbooks uh from different um uh different places and uh even got the u.s naval academy book from back in their textbooks from back in the 1940s and and use that stuff and i just did a bunch of stuff in parallel. Um, you know, you're not setting, they're limited to what your teacher teaches you. If you really want to learn a subject, you can do it anywhere. You don't have to go to Harvard or MIT or anything like that. Um, handy. The experts say that gardening is causing it and that's right.
Starting point is 01:04:39 And they were saying, it's not even the labor of the gardening that's causing it. They said, you know, people are stirring this up. There some mysterious substance i don't know maybe we should call it the ether or humors or something i don't know that's uh causing people that's total nonsense um m sellers our college-age kids struggle with so much propaganda it's hard being unvaxxed in a vaxxed world but they're standing strong through it i appreciate that i only had a little bit of that when I was in school 50 years ago. I had a hardcore Marxist history professor and some others as part of the core curriculum because it wasn't all math and science. And one of them was so bad, I just dropped the class.
Starting point is 01:05:19 I'm not even going to fight with him and take something else. North American House Hippo. Good to see you there. He says, all you have to do is look at who is still wearing the face diapers and you not even going to fight with him and take something else. Uh, North American house hippo. Uh, good to see you there. He says, all you have to do is look at who is still wearing the face diapers and you know, it's political.
Starting point is 01:05:30 It's their symbol of obedience and they demand that we wear it too. That's right. John Henry, three, seven, seven, seven. Our founding fathers would have burned Washington to the ground at the
Starting point is 01:05:40 beginning of this fake pandemic. That's right. That's right. Instead, we're going to try to put tweedledee and Tweedledum back in, whichever one we get. Just unbelievable. Brian and Deb McCartney,
Starting point is 01:05:53 they killed two of our dear Christian friends with these ventilators and run death is near, remdesivir. I'm sorry to hear that. A lot of people. And that's the thing. We don't know. That's how they do this, right? They isolate people so that you think, well, I know somebody, but that's just not happening.
Starting point is 01:06:12 They tell me that it's safe. And even though it looks like, you know, people are dying from this and not from that so-called pandemic, the press says otherwise. And many people will believe that. Yona, Deb, CMS has been paying out very lucrative bribes to the hospitals for doing such. Yes. And of course, then they threatened them that if they didn't vaccinate all their nurses in 2021, Biden administration threatened them and said, if you don't do that, not only do you not get those bonuses that you got used to under Trump for the last year and a half, but we're going to take away
Starting point is 01:06:48 all your Medicare, Medicaid payments, which is the basis of their business. We'll put you out of business if you don't do it. And that's what they do. They bribe people. They use the money given to them, created out of thin air, the fiat currency. They use that to bribe people. It doesn't really matter if you put your health wishes in writing when they violate them anyway, says Brian Demacardi. No, it doesn't. They do ignore written orders. They do put people on do not resuscitate in spite of what you do.
Starting point is 01:07:18 Maria Myers says most people who died didn't die until they went to the ER. Then they poisoned them and took their oxygen away because they could keep patients from family. That's the key part of it as well. All of it. It's just amazing when you think about how multi-level this was. It was a very well-plotted murder. Nancy Chambers. Painful to listen to since my husband was killed by COVID protocol.
Starting point is 01:07:43 Dead seven days after the Moderna vax without consent. I'm so sorry. KWD 68, virtue signals, masks, EVs, yes, even the MAGA hats. Yeah, yeah. I don't want to forget, you know, that the masks were being sold by Mike Adams. I even had somebody send me an email saying, you know, I bought a bunch of these things from Mike Adams. I even had somebody send me an email and said, you know, I bought a bunch of these things from Mike Adams.
Starting point is 01:08:09 And then, you know, I realized that there's things that don't work. I tried to send them back. I wouldn't take them back. But I was, I went on with Alex with this stuff and I was ranting about these masks and how they didn't work and turn break. Alex goes, you guys don't do a, let's do an InfoWars, a mask with InfoWars across front. It's like, yeah, how can I make money out of this? And how can I scare more people?
Starting point is 01:08:33 And, uh, M seller, someone I know had to pick up their 18 month old yesterday from daycare because he was in pain and inconsolable had his shots days before. Oh, mom made no connection whatsoever. People wake up. I see that all the time. All the time. Whether you're talking about 9-11 or you're talking about this, you know, lady that I saw in a store one time. She worked in that office. Was telling me about the trillions of dollars missing, the corruption, all this kind of stuff.
Starting point is 01:09:00 Made no connection to the fact that, you know, her. And my office was the one that was hit. amazing and then that all stopped can't understand why birdhouse blues in november 2020 the drop-off in flu numbers following kovitz arrival was swift and global still perplexed how flu disappeared and reappeared yeah b slice our pediatrician told me with a straight face flu has disappeared it's been relabeled yeah uh stealth patriot fisher price is going to have to start making pacers pacemakers yeah yeah it's it's bad it's really bad well i want to get on before um i'm going to cut the comments short here, but I want to get on to, um, we're on pharmaceuticals. Let me get into climate and we're going to do that.
Starting point is 01:09:49 When we come back, uh, we have a Tony's going to be joining us at the bottom of the hour. So I want to talk a little bit about, um, um, about, um, climate before we get into that. We'll be right back. In a world of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. You're listening to The David Knight Show. All right, welcome back. Let's talk a little bit about what Elon Musk is doing. And he is pushing carbon tax again.
Starting point is 01:10:57 He's reverting back to form. Actually, he never left. Never left that 10 years ago and um this is comments from technocracy news um about um what he's just recently said i'll play a little bit of what he just recently said 10 years ago in 2012 business insider wrote tesla motors ceo elon musk would rather see the government place a tax on carbon emissions that increase tax credits for buyers of electric vehicles he said last night he said the right thing to do is to place a tax on carbon now this is a guy who became the world's richest man by the incentivization these tax credits for buying
Starting point is 01:11:36 electric cars and he knows that he can make more money with carbon credits and the way they're going to do that is going to be with something similar to the natural asset companies that you just, we nearly had imposed on us. They will come back with that. That is, I think, the ultimate plan. To be able to confiscate property, and maybe they'll do it by massive default,
Starting point is 01:11:59 or this particular case, take public property even, national parks, and say, okay, that's now under our stewardship. And, um, everybody's got to pay a global carbon tax, and then we'll get a percentage of that. And, you know, then whatever we get in terms of that global carbon tax money, we will keep half of it and we'll give half of it back to the community. And they'll even do that with a private property as well. Although a private property, they'll keep far more than half of it.
Starting point is 01:12:27 That's going to be the way that they're going to monetize and distribute this carbon tax money to these billionaires, to these big funds like black rock and Vanguard and state street and that type of thing. And that's the way they take everything. And so that's how he gets richer. The subsidies were great for him. And of course, Elon Musk was able to take EVs and make them very futuristic, high-tech fantasy vehicles by talking about his autonomous driving stuff. That was the sizzle for the steak. In 2015, he addressed the UN Climate Summit, COP21, in Paris.
Starting point is 01:13:08 And what came out of that was the Paris Climate Accord at COP21 in 2015. And that's, by the way, when the World Economic Forum started saying, you know, you'll own nothing and you'll be happy. That's when they started talking about smart cities and all that. COP 21 in Paris. There, Elon Musk addressed them and said, Tesla and SpaceX. CEO Musk gave a speech at Paris and he said, they said, it's important. This is Business Insider at the time.
Starting point is 01:13:42 It's important to note that Musk has never been about building cars or going to mars or applying solar power more widely he has a vision for the future that uses those businesses as a means to several important ends freedom from fossil fuels that is what he's ultimately about but But he says, okay, that is his core thing. His core thing is making money. Climate change, that's really what he's about. Climate change is the biggest threat that humanity faces this century, except for AR, Musk said in 2018. I keep telling people this. I hate to be Cassandra here, but it's all fun and games until somebody loses an eye, he says. Well, that's where he is, and he is still talking about that. And as Technocracy News points out,
Starting point is 01:14:35 Elon Musk is introducing his new right-wing fans to the idea of implementing a carbon tax. And I think that what he's doing, as I said at the beginning of the program, I think that Elon Musk believes that he can get these MAGA people to buy his climate MacGuffin just like they went hook, line, and sinker for Trump's pandemic MacGuffin. Because the MAGA people are experts at double think they can look at these carbon taxes oh no no no that's a climate change i don't believe in that the pandemic i don't believe
Starting point is 01:15:13 in that but then they will fall lockstep behind musk and trump while they pull this through and so a technocracy news says regardless of where you stand politically it's a fascinating situation i remember not too long ago when the right consistently attacked him for taking advantage of government subsidies at his companies oh but now he's our hero because he bought twitter and he's portrayed as suffering and and you know look at he he lost 40 billion dollars or whatever to uh give us free speech you see that all the time from the same conservative commentators that push trump on top of running six different companies he is virtually a full-time political influencer now and he just wrote on fe the 3rd the only action needed
Starting point is 01:16:05 to solve climate change is a carbon tax here's a little bit about what he had to say what I'm going to talk about today is what is needed to address the climate crisis what actions can we take that that will accelerate the transition out of the fossil fuel era so there's a certain amount of carbon that is circulating through the environment. So it's going into the air, beginning absorbed by plants and animals, and then going back into the air.
Starting point is 01:16:31 And this carbon is just circulating on the surface. And this is fine, and it's been doing that for millions, hundreds of millions of years. The thing that's changed is that we've added something to the mix. So this is what I would call the sort of the turd in the punch bowl. We added all this extra something to the mix so this is what i would call the sort of the turd in the punch bowl we added all this extra carbon to the carbon cycle and the net result
Starting point is 01:16:50 is that the carbon in the ocean's atmosphere is growing over time it's much more than can be absorbed okay this is enough of this right you get the idea he's no different than john kerry no different than al gore No different than Al Gore. No different than any of them. But he's on our side, isn't he? This is the fundamental issue. Yes, speech is very fundamental. And of course, free speech.
Starting point is 01:17:16 There isn't free speech at Twitter. You're not free to criticize him. I never got off of shadow ban when he started doing this stuff. So, yeah, free speech is great, but it's much bigger than one social media platform. How are people going to react to this? You think they'll give him a pass? I absolutely do think they'll give him a pass. There's been a little bit of pushback.
Starting point is 01:17:36 For example, um, when you look at Trump and this, again, this is where he's always been. And where has Trump always been and where has trump always been trump has always been a new york liberal democrat who is a friend of epstein and um all the people in the the playboy scene up there the sex scene and and uh he's that's he's actually boasted about that in a lawsuit where he was being accused of rape yeah i can do anything i want to to anybody because I'm a celebrity, right? And that's the way it's always been. Whether or not you like it, whether or not you think that's a good thing, because I'm a celebrity and I can do this kind of stuff.
Starting point is 01:18:14 He's always been that way. So, you know, Jeffrey Epstein is, you know, the other billionaire that helped to make him besides Trump was Lex Wexner. And he had his Victoria's Secret stuff. Well, trump bought his you know the beauty pageants and everything and as part of those beauty pageants before anybody was talking about it he was talking about putting transgenders in the beauty pageants and so this last uh yesterday or the day before trump comes out and says yeah i think the conservatives are being too rough on Bud Light. Too rough on Bud Light.
Starting point is 01:18:46 And his son, Don Jr., had said that at the very beginning. And he had, you know, some, got some Bronx cheers from the conservatives for that, some of them. And he stopped talking about it. But, you know, Trump can do it. He doesn't, isn't going to suffer anything from that. But that's what he's always been. Just like Musk has always been about these carbon credits. He's always been about pushing the climate MacGuffin.
Starting point is 01:19:16 In the same way that Trump has always hung out with the depraved left, the New York Democrat groups and so forth, but people don't see it in him and i imagine you know the maga crowd will be perfectly capable of double think with elon musk as well i think that's why musk is making the kind of moves that he's doing he looks at those people he says well you know they if they like me they'll give me a pass on anything that i do that they don't like why does he say that because he saw him do it with Trump. Jason Barker says, I'm surprised Elon Musk wants carbon taxes with all those rockets that he launches. Yeah, that should put him out of business, shouldn't it?
Starting point is 01:19:53 Except, as one person says, dystopian distance says, carbon taxes for thee and not for me. So he's going to be getting those carbon taxes. That kind of recycling they get to reuse those carbon taxes and recycle those carbon taxes back to themselves that's what they get to do yeah rockets and jet planes are exempt yeah even to the extent that we have taylor swift now is you got some teenager who is following her jet, her private jets and reporting their carbon usage. And so she's going to sell that jet $40 million jet, uh, because she doesn't like that being pointed out, but she's got another one. Don't worry.
Starting point is 01:20:35 She's got, I don't know if she's got more than one more. She can have multiple, uh, jets to fly around. Uh, Jason says, Jason Barker says, because raw cash sucks co2 out of the air that's right um yeah that kind of green jason barker says when the elon launches starlink satellites into orbit with electric rocket then i'll take him serious that's true and so you know we look at what is happening in california every time there's any unusual weather it's got to be climate change now. It's not going to be global warming or global cooling, but it's got to be climate change.
Starting point is 01:21:11 And so they're pushing this. They're also saying, well, there's a drought in the Amazon. There's a drought in the Amazon and there's big floods in California. So it's got to be the end of the world because of your suv as um daily skeptic says hysteria has reigned supreme as recent global mainstream media headlines blame last year's drought in the amazon basin on human caused climate change the bbc reported that without human involvement the drought may have been one ounce in 1500 year. I'm sorry, not an ounce, but a once in 1500 year event.
Starting point is 01:21:52 Yes, yes. Many ounces there. Damien Carrington of the Guardian said it hit the maximum exceptional level on the scientific scale, whatever that means. Those, of course, they don't ever see this with the vaccines, do they? No. Those of more skeptical persuasion might note that the scares arose from computer models that were funded by green billionaire investor Jeremy Grantham. In fact, rainfall in the area has shown little cyclical deviation across nearly 300 years.
Starting point is 01:22:21 Severe droughts are common in the basin particularly in el nino years and temperatures in brazil have risen by only 0.6 degrees centigrade since 1900 um they don't even have good temperature records there anyway but we've seen the same type of thing in venice for example a few years ago they were saying look at this you this. We've got Venice, the waters are rising, and it's global warming, and Venice is going to be gone. Within a couple of months, then they were complaining because there was a drought. How do you get a drought? I don't understand in Venice where the canals go dry, but the canals are dry.
Starting point is 01:23:01 And there were gondolas setting on dry ground in these places. And so they go through drought. Evenice goes through cycles of drought and flood oh but all of that is now evidence for climate change you see no it just happens it's always happened an update on the michael mann versus um uh stein mark stein lawsuit and again to fill you in at something i've talked about many times michael mann um is one who was behind al gore's hockey stick um and called a hockey stick because in his imagination um there is a connection between co2 and temperatures that's not there and the fact that it's not there was what ClimateGate was all about.
Starting point is 01:23:46 The fact that it was all a manufactured lie based on a simulation, just like they did with the Imperial College of London, except this scam was being run by the University of East Anglia Climate Center in the UK. Both of these things coming out of the UK. When you got somebody at a hoity-toity university with a lot of degrees on their paper and uh they're speaking with a british accent and they got a computer printout i mean that's
Starting point is 01:24:14 a very dangerous thing they can convince anybody uh pretty much i mean it's like oh just fall down and and worship these people a british accent and a computer printout? Are you kidding? That's, you know, you got all the cards in that kind of a situation. So that's what they were doing at University of East Anglia. Then people caught on to it and saw that they were passing emails back and forth to each other saying our models don't work. How do we hide the fact that the temperatures declined when CO2 has gone up?
Starting point is 01:24:41 When Michael Mann is saying it's going to go, they're tied together and it's going to go up exponentially. They're more than tied together. The CO2 is going to multiply that effect. And that was featured prominently in Al Gore's thing. So I've said in the past, I was with a group that tried to get to his data and he fought us and won. But at the same time, Mark Stein was also criticizing him publicly. Now he is suing Mark Stein for defamation. And as part of this trial, Mark Stein is commenting on it. He says, well, I'm not a lawyer, but I'm assumed and covering, but I assumed in covering a defamation trial, I might be exposed to something resembling evidence of defamation. How naive I was, he said.
Starting point is 01:25:25 Virtually every aspect of man's career is better now than it was before Stein's and Simberg's blog posts were published. He's suing him. He said, you defame me. Well, where's the injury? Is what Mark Stein is saying. And he sarcastically points out, he said, in every regard, he has prospered, not suffered. How is he injured in any of this? He says his salary is higher. He hangs out with celebrities such as Bill Clinton
Starting point is 01:25:52 and Leonardo DiCaprio, with whom Mann testified to having a bromance. He was then working at Penn State, but now he's at the Ivy League University of Pennsylvania. He's making more in book royalties as well. If this is what harm looks like, I would welcome defamation by Stein and Simberg any day. And he says in the heat of Climategate, Dr. Curry called on her colleagues to employ restraint. And this resulted in her being called by the plaintiff, that's Michael Mann,
Starting point is 01:26:26 and the then widely read Huffington Post, he called her a serial climate disinformer. Oh no. Being labeled a disinformer didn't work though. So it was time to play the scarlet letter card. Before the Me Too era, that accusation sadly worked all too well. And all the time, the good doctor spread those rumors. It might as well have been 1642, even though it was the mid two thousands. And so the following literally had to be stated and asked in court today. Um, Dr. Judith Curry said, Michael Mann knew who I was. My name appeared in one of the climate gate emails that man sent.
Starting point is 01:27:04 He knew who I was. My name appeared in one of the ClimateGate emails that Mann sent. He knew who I was. I mean, when this story was changed or altered to portray me as a graduate student, to my mind, the implication that I was, you know, just a woman sleeping my way to the top. And if you're a professional woman, this is about the worst thing that anyone can say about you. It discredits your accomplishments and it gives people permission to ignore you. And so defense counsel said, Dr. Curry, did you ever get any of your tenured faculty positions or department chairs or awards or publications or anything else because you slept with somebody? She said, no.
Starting point is 01:27:41 He said, let that sink in, says Mark Stein. If you're a professional woman woman this is about the worst thing that anybody can say about you it discredits your accomplishments gives people permission to ignore you this is what dr curry described today as hockey stick warfare because it's the michael man hockey stick it's just amazing to me that people like Michael Mann and Fauci can get away with not showing their data and the Imperial College of London and the University of East Anglia, that they can cover this stuff up and hide it over and over again. And then when it is exposed, what do they do? They have a government inquiry to make people think that they're doing something
Starting point is 01:28:20 about it, which is exactly the game plan that the Republicans are doing about the border. Whenever everything blows up, you have an inquiry or you have an impeachment to make people think that you're doing something about it when, in fact, you are doing nothing about any of this. The Bank of America is breaking its promise to not finance new coal projects. As I said with the war stuff, you've got European Union banks, Lloyd's of London and others are ignoring the Iran sanctions. Well, you know, this is an economic war. And there's all kinds of sanctions against us.
Starting point is 01:28:52 Bank of America, though, had promised people, and they were celebrated by all the people on the left pushing this climate MacGuffin. They were celebrated for saying they were not going to finance any new coal projects, and yet they are now. Now the bank has backtracked and said such projects would simply be subjected to enhanced due diligence. Well, I think they started doing due diligence on this whole ESG thing, figured out that it wasn't working out too well. But when they start investing in these fossil fuel plants and these coal plants
Starting point is 01:29:26 and other things like that when they invest in coal plants does that mean that it's going to be made available to us no biden is making coal great again as exports soar to india see we're destroying our coal burning plants here in america even when they were lying and telling everybody the peak oil was a lie from the cia saying we're going to be out of oil and gas by the mid-1980s they said that in the late 1970s and i've shown you the magazines it was all you know newsweek and time magazine in lockstep with each other as they always were same angle same thing and they had the same cover at the same time saying we're all going to be out of gas in five or six years. And yet they said we had 666 years of coal.
Starting point is 01:30:13 And so we've got the coal. Biden's going to allow the coal to be exported. Will it be allowed to be burned in the United States? Well, no, they're dismantling the coal plants, no matter how clean they are. And they're going to send the coal to India, no matter how dirty their coal plants are. To India. You see, this is what the Paris Climate Accord was always about.
Starting point is 01:30:35 The treaty that was never ratified. And that the Republicans, not a single Republican ever complained about that. All the Senate Republicans. I mean, this is something that, you know, that's a major thing. The Senate has the power to ratify or to not ratify treaties. None of the senators wanted that power because with great power comes great responsibility, and they didn't want the responsibility of taking a side in all of this. But by not taking a side, they did take a side, didn't they? They sided with the globalists.
Starting point is 01:31:06 All the Republican senators, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Mitch McConnell, name them, Mike Lee, all these guys sided with the globalists against you in order to push this Paris Climate Accord. They did that by doing nothing. By doing nothing. And never never saying you know that that treaty
Starting point is 01:31:28 i can't stand and of course trump kicked the can down the road as well first he said he wasn't going to do anything then he said well i'll do something after the election day after the election he says i'm declaring that we're out of the treaty that didn't do anything never told any of these senators m Mitch McConnell, to call a vote. He didn't even have to take responsibility. All he needed to do was to point out that they weren't doing it. Trump was in on it as well, you see. Trump could have said, Mitch or Rand or Ted, you guys need to call a vote on this.
Starting point is 01:31:59 And if you don't, this isn't a real treaty. He could have said that when he took office in 2017, but he didn't. And so what Paris did, the people who really believe that this is a global problem, said that doesn't help anything. All you're doing is allowing China and India to build these power plants, and they're building dirtier power plants than we have here. You're not solving the problem at all. You're just doing economic redistribution,
Starting point is 01:32:23 and that's what the Republicans and the Democrats are doing, economic redistribution. So I remember back in 2017 when this was being kicked around, I played a clip of Humphrey Bogart from Casablanca where he says, we'll always have Paris. I said, they'll never get rid of this Paris Climate Accord. Tony Arterburn is ready to join us now. We're going to take a quick break, and we'll be right back to talk about economic issues. So stay with us. Hear news now at APSradioNews.com or get the APS Radio app and never miss another story. The Common man. They created common core to dumb down our children. They created common past to track and control us.
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Starting point is 01:34:50 Well, thank you. What's on your mind now with the economy? Well, you know, I just listened to you this morning. The elites get so much wrong, the mainstream, the powers that be. You go back to the 70s, and you've played this before with, like, Leonard Nimoy talking about the great ice age that was coming and it's global cooling yeah then it was global warming and then it's climate change and acid rain they always have some crisis that never comes to pass and they miss the actual crisis or huge historical events as they happen they don't they can't believe it they don't understand how to cover it i'm going back to the fall of the soviet union how many networks were
Starting point is 01:35:23 talking about that that there was an imminent collapse coming? Nobody saw that coming, not in the mainstream. They just, again, there's some other, they have another narrative. There's another mission that they have, and it's not to let you in on what's to come. I think that's our job to talk about things on the periphery. And again, they missed the banking crisis of 08. What about the weapons of mass destruction? They never do actual journalism, never talk about the things that matter. And I think one of the things that's coming across my research is the upcoming systemic banking crisis. It's international in scope.
Starting point is 01:35:59 I mean, you have German banks talking about a real estate bubble bigger than 08 in their holdings. You even have Janet Yellen coming out and saying banks are becoming quite stressed because of their commercial real estate holdings. And we have these giant vacancies. And, you know, Gerald Salente has been talking about that for years now, just since since the the scandemic, since the lockdowns, these these empty buildings all over the United States and in the West. And this is coming to a head, I think. And I think that you go back to the Great Depression, as you know, between 1930 and 1933, there was 9000 estimated banks that closed in the United States.
Starting point is 01:36:39 That was the beginning of the banking crisis in the Great Depression. We're a year out now from Silicon Valley Bank following the FTX collapse. We're a year out from that. And of course, one of their periphery banks was Silvergate. I used to wire Silvergate for my Bitcoin transactions. They no longer exist. So there's fewer and fewer banks that handle cryptocurrencies. To me, that's the beginning of what is to come here in our Western economies
Starting point is 01:37:08 with these banking, the stress on the banking system. So I wanted to bring that to your attention because nobody in the mainstream is bringing this up. And I think it's on the horizon. That's right. And when you talk about it, what's at Silvergate, there was like two or three bank failures
Starting point is 01:37:21 and one of them was not even a bank failure. They were basically pressured. Silvergate. They were pressured because of their connection to crypto to shut down. They were not insolvent. No. No, they were not. And it was just that it touched FTX, and it was in the periphery of that.
Starting point is 01:37:39 And I think that was a lot of what they do is they pick winners and losers. I think this was more of the consolidation. They'll use this crisis to consolidate into the major banks. And this will be the backbone of central bank digital currency. If you know that that's the real 40 chess, I agree. The mainstream people, you know,
Starting point is 01:37:55 to quote our Buckminster Fuller, people cannot get out of the way of what they don't see coming. That's right. They don't see what's coming. What they're going to do is I had a friend who used to play risk together, you know, and if he was losing, he'd just nuke the board. That's right. They don't see what's coming. Uh, it's interesting on American thinker, there was a headline that was very good with Evergrande liquidation. Of course, Evergrande is this gigantic. A real estate company and, um, and, and China, uh, with their liquidation. And that's what they've decided to do.
Starting point is 01:38:35 They're so bankrupt. They've got assets of 245 billion, but they got, uh, which are probably inflated. Uh, but, uh, assuming that they even have that much in terms of assets, they have $300 billion in debt. And so they're going to liquidate it. And he said, what's even more important than that is the fact that it's emblematic of a lot of things like that that are happening throughout China and that China's economy is so heavily based on real estate.
Starting point is 01:39:01 And the same thing happened with them that has been happening as Gerald looked at the lockdown. So this is going to destroy New York. Well, that's what it did with a China, you know, the, the lockdowns and the throttling of all commercial activity,
Starting point is 01:39:14 but especially the lockdowns kicked off this crash and real estate. And, uh, he, this article is about, um, the analysis of a Chinese, um,
Starting point is 01:39:24 uh, economics writer who writer who talks about this. I thought it was interesting, Tony, that their economy only grew 3% in 2022 and grew 5.2% in 2023, some of the worst showings that they've had for three decades. Now, if we would have something, if our economy was growing at that rate or better, the Federal Reserve would throttle it. They would say, it's going to overheat the economy. We're not going to allow that. decades now if we would have something if our economy was growing at that rate or better the federal reserve would throttle it they would say it's going to overheat the economy we're not going to allow that it just shows you how managed everything is and managed to the advantage of china it truly is a patimpkin economy and it was the globalist who built that patimpkin village yes
Starting point is 01:40:02 yes it's fascism textbookism, and a completely controlled economy. I think what people tend to forget is that in a real estate crisis, what you're looking at is actually a currency crisis because every time you create a commercial real estate loan in the modern era, there's a currency creation there. That's a creation of currency itself. When you get a home loan, that's new currency that's created by the banks. It didn't used to be that way. We had something called fractional reserve banking. But as I've mentioned many times here on your show, since 1980, there's 52 times more currency in the world today than in 1980. That's because of the amount of currency creation and the real estate market is tied
Starting point is 01:40:42 directly to that. It's why in the United States, we have to continually goose the market, lower interest rates, get people to take out loans because you need more currency flowing through the system to prop it up. And it's no longer about profit or production. It's all debt. And we're sitting on the biggest debt bomb in the history of mankind. And it's all over the world. It's systemic.
Starting point is 01:41:02 And I think the Chinese have overbuilt. Their economy is suffering. Yes, they're pulling away from the U.S. hegemony and the sphere of the dollar. They're pulling away from that. The BRICS nations are strengthening. But all of these economies are weak. I mean, the U.S. is, to channel Dennis Miller, I think he's talking about being the valedictorian of summer school. Like're the best of the worst like we've got we've got uh we've got a you know you have a paul krugman saying we're the best economy ever the biden bidenomics is working these people are delusional we're sitting on a massive debt of economic weakness supply chains have been so disrupted they're almost broken and you know you see these these sell-offs around the world it's not going
Starting point is 01:41:44 to end well and i think uh you know, you see these these sell offs around the world. It's not going to end well. And I think, you know, the the central banks, while this is happening and you don't see this talked about by the mainstream at all, they're buying gold. And I think they're they're planning for what they themselves have set in motion, which is the Great Reset. I agree. Yeah. When you look at what is happening in China, I saw several articles, people talking about mercantilism. You know, that's now the thing we talking about mercantilism. You know, that's now the thing we've always talked about how well, you know, China is really kind of a
Starting point is 01:42:08 fascist economy. They say that they're communists and, you know, but you've got to you've got to work with them and give them partial ownership in order to establish a business within China. They tightly protect their borders, which is characteristic of mercantilism. You know, we're going to put up all kinds of barriers for imports to come in, and then we're going to export things to people. So it is classic mercantilism. And then you also have an aspect of colonialism there with the Belt and Road Initiative. And these things are not really working out well for them and and they're really kind of showing uh their their their problems you know the the chinese economy has been built on
Starting point is 01:42:51 uh slave labor and currency manipulation and intellectual property theft you know piracy so piracy and slavery and mercantilism you know it's sort of like we're back to uh you know the the victorian times or whatever the different empire uh but uh it can't go forever and it's one of the things that um you know as people are talking about mercantilism that was really kind of an adam smith uh phrase that he coined in contrast to the invisible hand of a real marketplace and and the thing about it is that at first it looks like it's really working well until it doesn't and that's kind of you know where the chinese are right now and then to pour fuel onto this dumpster fire of the chinese
Starting point is 01:43:32 economy of piracy slavery and mercantilism comes donald trump and he's talking about 60 tariffs on china what's that going to do to the economy if you suddenly, that's going to be more disruptive than the rapid increase in interest rates that the Federal Reserve did, isn't it? I mean, just all of a sudden reset all the deck, you know, if you were to come in like that. Well, we'd have to call Ben Stein. I mean, it wouldn't be Smoot-Hawley anymore. 50% tariffs from the 30s, 60% tariffs. Well, you know, China used our old playbook. I mean, let's be honest. They used the old American empire, the beginning of the 20th century. We were economic nationalists. We were the arsenal of democracy and the manufacturing
Starting point is 01:44:18 marvel of mankind. We had tariffs. We set that in place. That was something that Alexander Hamilton set up. You have all four presidents on Mount Rushmore supported tariffs. Every figure on our paper currency supported tariffs. We built the country on tariffs. And yeah, you've talked about some great history about the tariff of abominations in the South and how the South was agrarian and the North was manufacturing. And there was a battle between that because of pricing. But in general, the United States was built on tariffs and protecting our base manufacturing. You know, Hamilton had read Adam Smith and the Wealth of Nations. He just didn't agree with the complete free market. And, you know, it's the theory. And so China's used that. And if you go and look at their tariffs are massive, you know, on imports,
Starting point is 01:45:02 but they push politically for free trade it's a very symbiotic relationship that they have with the united states it's almost like they're they're parasitically making sure like they're they're siphoning off as much wealth as they can and letting things kind of collapse looking for other inroads and that's the belt and road initiative in my opinion that's the future that they've planned on they don't't see the United States as the future. They see their influence and the United States waning. That's going to create a vacuum. I think that's what they're planning for. But they have overbuilt. And I think their timeline has been disrupted. Because you and I both know, you can have central planning all you want. But that doesn't really solve all your problems you can you can make huge
Starting point is 01:45:45 mistakes in judgment and i think they have i think they've overbilled they've overborrowed uh and they've used the united states um to the point where the united states is weakening and then you you end up having a donald trump figure which i believe in tariffs but the way he handled a lot of that in his administration i just scratched my head i didn't really understand it uh some of the ways he was setting that, he talked about negotiation and he would put a tariff on, they'd take it off. I think we need, you know, we look at modest tariffs across the board. You don't want to. And that's the key thing. That's the key thing. You know, the key thing is that he would think that he could do something that radical and that fast. I mean, it's like,
Starting point is 01:46:23 you know, to to jump that quickly is going to be such a shock to the system it'd be total chaos because people would not be able to react quickly enough to it when you look at what the federal reserve did rapidly raising interest rates and successive things 75 basis points at a time you know three quarters of a percent each time when they did that very rapidly what did it it caught the small banks and many others uh in a bad place. So they couldn't get out of it. Cause some of those bankruptcies that we saw, uh, this would do much more than that.
Starting point is 01:46:50 Now, some of the people are looking at it and say, well, after all, this is Donald Trump. He probably won't follow through with anything that he says. So good news is it's Trump and he's, he's throwing out radical stuff here, but they said the fact is that he can throw this stuff out. And only a couple of writers have really reacted to the insanity of changing rates that rapidly right regardless of whether you're pro-mercantilism and pro-protection or free markets or whatever to change it that radically nobody's really even talking about that and they said that that shows that there's a a real constituency for doing that now in terms of what made it more effective for Thomas Jefferson,
Starting point is 01:47:30 he said, we've eliminated all internal taxation, and we've only got it at the borders. But that was because they had a government that was small enough to fit into the Constitution. So if your government, as Ron Paul has said for the longest time, he said, it really doesn't make that much difference what your taxation base is as long as it's really really small and if it's really really big it doesn't there's not going to be any good way to do it the problem is that the government's footprint is too big and its foot is stomping on our face like 1984 that's the problem and so no matter what they do
Starting point is 01:48:02 and how they restructure this is like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. They've got to get government to be smaller, but that's not going to happen. And so they will play these games. And if they play these games, I think they have a chance of making things much worse very quickly. Let's go back to the Reagan administration late in his second term. They came to him and said, Mr. President, we're going to lose Harley Davidson. And he said, well, we're going to lose harley-davidson he said what we're going to lose harley yes the japanese uh because we'd opened up our markets we had free trade agreements uh that was the way for us it was kind of an addendum to the marshall plan let these you know uh nations that we have destroyed let them have access to our markets and build back up their economies and they came to president reagan said we're going to lose harley-davidson and he said
Starting point is 01:48:43 okay so he slapped a 50 tariff on the larger import of the larger bikes. And they saved Harley. That act of economic nationalism saved Harley. But when you're talking about a 60% tariff across the board on all incoming Chinese. Across the board. That is insane. And you're talking, I like economic nationalism. I'm a fan of it.
Starting point is 01:49:03 Yeah, I am too. It's interesting that no one, I ran on this when I was running for Congress. No one knew what I was economic nationalism. I'm a fan of it. It's interesting that no one, I ran on this when I was running for Congress. No one knew what I was talking about. They loved the fact that I was standing up for the worker, but no one in politics usually talks about this kind of stuff. You know, and there's a model too for it
Starting point is 01:49:15 that you can actually look at the model. If you had a 25% tariff across the board on all manufacturing goods, not just from China, but just 25% to get into our markets. If you manufacture it, whether it's a vehicle or a machine, anything that's manufactured outside of the continental United States, 25% tariff, and then you eliminate the corporate income tax for internal corporations, what that would do to give an incentive for companies to move here, build here, employ Americans, and avoid that 25%.
Starting point is 01:49:44 But a 60% tariff, that's... But you notice that Trump is not talking about eliminating the internal taxes either, right? No. This would be an addition to what we've already got. And so, you know, that's always the problem. And when you look at what is happening with the IRS, you know, they're going to give them another um uh you know 60 billion dollars and then the uh mccarthy and johnson both want to cut it down to like 45 billion dollars they only get 13 billion right now so you're looking looking at the democrats want to make the irs seven times bigger
Starting point is 01:50:18 the republicans want to make it five times bigger they're not talking about reducing that at all they're talking about uh rapidly escalating this. And it just came out that these IRS agents that they're putting in there, the vast majority of them are going to be for face-to-face audits, face-to-face audits. And they refuse to say that they're going to limit it to the wealthy, 400,000 or more. No, not going to say that. It's going to be for everybody. And this is just the beginning. I mean, they've only spent a couple of billion of the massive amount of money that's been allocated to them.
Starting point is 01:50:53 And the Republicans aren't pulling that back. The IRS, instead of saying we're going to raise taxes at the border and then pull the other stuff back, instead of doing that, instead of reducing the income tax, they're going to escalate this. And I think that's a part of the great taking to have this army of IRS agents that are there. But this is all going to result in a great deal, I think, of chaos. And it's planned and designed to do that, is what I think. And the gold people that are looking at this are saying it's also going to be a huge kickoff to inflation if they do this because it's going to raise prices on everything so rapidly it's really going to kick inflation through the roof if they were to do this well the only thing that really holds up this country anymore is small business
Starting point is 01:51:39 it's entrepreneurs people that are still trying to keep the lights on and build things you know it's funny you mentioned the so-called conservatives, Republican Party. I think you could float passing the Communist Manifesto through the House of Representatives and they'd be against 50 percent of it. So they try to try to conserve as much of the change that goes on with what the left and the progressives and the Marxists do. And the Republicans come along and conserve that a little bit. So we really don't have anybody fighting for the Bill of Rights. Jim Jordan would do a hearing about it. Right.
Starting point is 01:52:09 Do an inquiry. It's so weak. And that's why we have to take care of ourselves in these parallel systems. I saw Catherine Austin Fitz has been talking about sovereign state banks a lot on interviews. You know, that's in the Constitution. This is what we have to do. This is decentralized, build parallel networks, because no one in Washington is coming to save you. You have ridiculous ideas flowing out of there. And, you know, this is all in theory, too. You know,
Starting point is 01:52:34 I've seen Trump run before in 2016. I don't know what policies were carried out other than making, you know, Fauci president. I had a question, you know fauci president i had a question you know i thought this would be a great tweet for you you should ask uh if trump is re-elected uh does fauci automatically become president again or do we have to wait for the next scam he can become president very easily he seems to be in better health than either uh trump or well maybe his trump isn't as good at health as fauci is but you know we got b Biden there. He could easily have Fauci become president. But both of them made Fauci president. And yeah, that's the whole thing. I said in the 2020 election, why am I, why would I even bother to vote for president?
Starting point is 01:53:14 Because we're being ruled by Fauci and we're being ruled at the state and local level by bureaucrats because you've got a state and local governments for the most part would not stand up to them. Some cases, if you get somebody that's bad at the state level, they're going to make it even worse than these bureaucrats. So that's really where the key is, is at the state and local levels. And, you know, when we talk about the state banks, Tony, that Catherine Austin Fitz is talking about,
Starting point is 01:53:36 there's a real concern that a lot of states could go bankrupt. You look at Illinois, look at what is happening in California. California went from, you know, they were looking at a big deficit before all of this COVID bailout from Trump happened of tens of billions of dollars. And all of a sudden they wound up with a hundred billion dollar surplus and it took them no time at all to blow through that. And now they're looking at a $38 billion deficit again. And so you've got a lot of these Democrat states that are looking at essentially insolvency. And that's a concern.
Starting point is 01:54:08 And if they don't, you know, that's another layer of concern if the states cannot administer things. There's going to be another level of concern for all of us, I think. Well, that's a massive loss of sovereignty when you have to go to the federal government and get a bailout for your state. Where does that put you in the column of having any sort of powers anymore? Because you're going to be, I mean, they're already under the thumb. They take the federal money, but that's another level of subservience. And that could create a system that could rapidly accelerate balkanization in the united states of america you're going to have some states especially the blue states with people fleeing not building businesses no investment and then you see these collapse because they just continue to tax
Starting point is 01:54:54 higher and regulate more and they're going to have these collapses i think that's inevitable their state budget's completely inflated places like illinois places like california these are going to be the first to go and they're going going to be, I think, further linked to the federal government, which is going to be a massive loss for liberty, because the only way that we have any sort of freedom is to be able to across state lines at this point. That's right. Yeah, it's interesting. We talked about the Potemkin economy of China, and we just had Biden put out his adjusted figures, they added a million jobs that didn't actually exist at the Department of Labor. And we always see that. They always go in and they'll talk about what the unemployment rate is this quarter and how it changed from the previous
Starting point is 01:55:37 quarter. And they always will go back and adjust previous quarters so they can show a positive trend. That is a bipartisan trick that they always do. But of course, with everything as with everything else, Biden takes it to another extreme level and he's done that with this now, uh, when you look at all of this, it's, it's just the, you know, the magnitude of it. The, um, the magnitude of the malarkey, uh, just gets higher and higher with Biden every time they go through it. And it's not just that kind of stuff. But the other thing that nobody is really talking about, Tony, are things like the record
Starting point is 01:56:10 credit card interest rates is something like 27% now on average. That's just, to me, that's such an abomination. If I was to run for any office, I would start trying to stop that at the state or local level, you know, to, it's just thievery to to charge people 27 that's like loan sharking it's amazing that's usury yeah it is usury it's criminal it is and they're taking advantage of people i read a study uh a couple of days ago credit card defaults are up 50 in 2023 according to the new york Reserve, 50%. So people are living paycheck to paycheck. They're going into debt. It's funny. Drudge had a headline. I read it on my show last week, David.
Starting point is 01:56:53 And it was, people are seeing prices lower in some columns, but the prices of groceries are way off the charts. And I thought, well, because those items that you're seeing the price drop, and this is economics 101, you don't have to be a professor, they're not buying those things because they can't afford them, whether it's used cars, televisions, a new phone, but they have to eat. So the prices of the things they need, they absolutely need, are going up. And so you have this duality of falling prices in other places and rising prices in places that you need. That's the definition of a failing economy
Starting point is 01:57:25 and a failing currency. And, you know, the mainstream is not going to get it all the way up to the end. We we are watching the death of a currency and it's slow, but the rest of the world is catching on. They're dumping the dollar, they're buying gold or joining other financial coalitions like the BRICS nations. The fact that Saudi Arabia, David, joined BRICS, now we have BRICS Plus, the fact that Saudi Arabia joined BRICS is not headline everywhere over all these financial networks. And not only that, not only did they, you know, you got now 10 BRICS nations and another 17 that have like a memory kind of not a full membership status, but are kind of involved in that. But also the other part of the petrodollar was the fact that they would buy military
Starting point is 01:58:06 weapons from us. And now they're looking to source that from other places. I mean, the petrodollar is just gone in terms of its construct that was put there. That's going to have big implications for everybody. That's why I like to get out of the fiat currency, try to get into gold and silver. And of course, you know, the World Economic Forum is talking about the fact that we've got to have interoperability between these CBDCs. That's what they mean as a global currency.
Starting point is 01:58:31 They'll have a veneer of nationalism on each of these CBDCs, but there'll be interoperable. It'll be one in the same thing. But, but before we run out of time, we've got, we've got another guest coming on. Tell us what's going on at, at wise Wolf. Well, we're just continuing to keep the supply chain open for our customers. That's been my mission here since all of this has been accelerated in 2020.
Starting point is 01:58:53 I realize that supply is going to be the issue. That first quarter of 2020, Dave, I remember people calling in to get orders when the prices fell after the stock market collapsed. And I couldn't source it at the time. And I thought, well, this in the future, I got to make sure that we have more than two or three supply chains. So I've set those up. We've got another location here in Denison, Texas that I'm working on. Wolfpack has a lot of great products. If you want to support David, go to davidknight.gold. Check out, join Wolfpack. It's a great way to stack gold and silver, especially if you're on a budget we have gold backs
Starting point is 01:59:25 going in every single order now i'm putting gold backs in every order that's right that's great from me i'm making sure that we don't run out of gold backs for those sovereign state notes that are 24 karat gold so even if you're on the lowest budget even the wolf cub the 35 a month gets some gold backs uh so go to go to david knightld. Check out Wolfpack. We've got some great incentives right now. And it's just a good way for you to stack, whether it's $50 or $5,000. Just to amplify that, the gold backs actually have physical gold, but a small amount on it. It's in the format of what you typically see as paper currency. Yes, it's 24 karat gold. Yeah, so that's a great thing.
Starting point is 02:00:06 And that's the key. You know, what are we going to have as a medium of exchange, as a currency, not just as holding wealth, but ability to have a currency in case we can't get this done at the state level because the state moves very slowly and this stuff is coming at us very fast. So we need to have something like the goldbacks that are there. Well, thank you for coming on, Tony. Always great to talk to you. We really do appreciate your support. And again, folks can get to wisewolf.gold by going to davidknight.gold. And that'll take you to Tony,
Starting point is 02:00:35 let him know that you came from us. Thank you so much, Tony. Appreciate it. Thank you, David. Thank you. All right, folks, we're going to take a quick break. When we come back, we're going to talk to a historian who's written a book not stolen the truth about european colonialism in the new world uh historian jeff finn paul and uh this is um we see all the statues that are coming down it hasn't been widely reported that um the new york museum of natural history and uh closed a 10,000-square-foot area that was about Indians themselves. They just shut that down.
Starting point is 02:01:11 And so he's going to talk about how this is a phony version of history that's being used to attack us and reset things culturally. So we're going to take a quick break, and we'll be right back to talk about that book, Not Stolen, The Truth About European Colonialism. So stay with us. We'll be right back. In a world of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. You're listening to The David Knight Show. ¶¶ Analyzing the globalist's next move.
Starting point is 02:03:36 And now, The David Knight Show. All right, welcome back. And joining us now is Jeff Finn Paul. He is author of many books and articles. We're going to talk to him specifically about one recent book. He's a professor of global history and economics at Leiden University in the Netherlands. And the book that we're going to begin talking about, of course, there's other ones that he's written that touch on the same subject, is The Not Stolen, The Truth About European Colonialism in the New World. And this is very important because as we
Starting point is 02:04:05 see everywhere we got to pull down the statues we've got to rename the streets and the buildings and you name it because somewhere somebody was involved in slavery or colonialism and they stole the land and so this is the basis on which the economy and the culture is being um the culture more than anything is being reset so joining us us now is, um, uh, Jeff. And, uh, so thank you for joining us, Jeff. I appreciate you coming on. Thanks a lot for having me on David. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:04:33 Uh, let's talk a little bit about what happened in New York, because that is probably the most recent and strangest event that has happened with all of this, you know, rewriting of history and culture. Uh, what happened at the New York, uh, you know, rewriting of history and culture. What happened at the New York Natural History Museum? Well, I mean, in 1990, they passed a law with a really nasty acronym, NAGPRA, and the idea was to protect Native American bones that had maybe been robbed from grave sites. And so that's rather understandable. You can understand how that's a sensitive topic.
Starting point is 02:05:10 But recently under the Biden administration, they've started broadening the rules so that almost any Native American artifact is now difficult to display in an American museum. And the idea is that tribes should have sovereignty over all of these artifacts. But the problem is a lot of modern tribes are not connected to artifacts that are hundreds or thousands of years old. So they've been given to tribes that didn't they didn't really belong to in the first place. And then the other thing that's going on is that um these things are basically being removed
Starting point is 02:05:46 from displays so what we're seeing is the closure of a lot of native american history museums and the left is always saying hey we need to reclaim native american history but this is such a weirdly counterintuitive move they're literally erasing Native American history from these museums so that neither Native Americans nor the general public can understand their own history. There's a lot of weird, weird things going on. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:16 Well, you know, when you want to memory hole things, you got to do it. Eventually you do it to everybody, right? If you're going to memory hole history, you've got to do it,
Starting point is 02:06:22 all of it or none of it. And it's kind of interesting to see that this is a bill, a law from the 1990s. I was just talking to somebody else on Tuesday. We're talking about the 1994 FACE Act. And the Biden administration is taking some of these laws from the 1990s and using in a way that they've never been used before in the intervening 30 years or so. And so it is interesting to see how they're weaponizing these things and extending them in ways that perhaps they were never intended to be because they haven't been used like this for three decades since their creation. So I think this is a very novel take on a lot of different laws.
Starting point is 02:07:04 This is kind of a recurring theme of the Biden administration, isn't it? Absolutely. And I mean, you know, so they, they expand these powers and they claim that they're helping native Americans at first. It looks like this is just a sob to the DEI people, but you really wonder who this is benefiting. And I think it's benefiting only a few people in a few tribes who maybe want to have more control over these artifacts but ultimately all they're doing is is basically destroying scientific evidence on which we can create native american history now who might
Starting point is 02:07:38 benefit from that i think it's really people who are afraid of history because they want to sell such a left-wing vision of history that they don't even want it to be contradicted by any real facts. Yeah, yeah. They can invent the whole thing out of a whole cloth. Isn't the Natural History Museum in New York, isn't that the one that was at Night at the Museum, if I'm thinking of that? Is that the same one? Yeah. I mean, it's such a long history i mean founded by teddy roosevelt and it's been collecting artifacts that scientists have been using for
Starting point is 02:08:11 over 100 years and now all of this evidence is being literally reburied it's being broken up it's going to disappear forever and i think they had a teddy roosevelt statue that had sacaja we are something there? And did they remove that? They were talking about removing it. Were they successful in doing that? I'm not sure what actually happened with that controversy. But yeah, I know that anything like that nowadays is embattled. And it seems like right now it's only a matter of time until it goes.
Starting point is 02:08:41 It's much like what we see with, you know, well, we've got to remove Robert E. Lee. But then they come after Ulysses Grant as well. Or they come after an abolitionist as well. They can't even be consistent with their own rationale. They just really want to get rid of everything. So you go to the Natural History Museum, get rid of Teddy Roosevelt, you get rid of Sacajawea and then all the other Indians as well. And it's interesting that they did it so quickly. You said it's a 10,000 square foot area that they had there, the Indians, and it took them just a few hours to take that down, the end of January? Yeah, absolutely. And the thing is, when they reopen these halls, we've actually seen, because they did this
Starting point is 02:09:15 with one of the halls at the same museum, they DEI wash it in such a way that people's ancestral stories are told as facts and scientific facts are shunted aside so if somebody says my grandfather told me this story no matter how crazy it was that now gets presented to the public as fact that's obviously doing a disservice to to everybody yes yes and it was uh just also in in jan January where they tried to get rid of William Penn. They're going to remove him from his exhibit and put up Indian information, they said. And the Indian tribes that were there were some of the people who were pushing against it. I mean, it's because of local resistance that they were able to stop that.
Starting point is 02:10:01 And the Indians said, no, he was a good guy. He was a friend to us, you know. And so they were able to stop it there. indian said no he was a he was a good guy he was a friend to us you know and and so they were able to stop it there you see this in many cases you're talking about a lot of these artifacts are very very old they're not sure really what tribe they belong to but in many cases i know when you're from florida as well i see in your bio here um you had florida state university they were there's a pressure campaign to try to get rid of the term Seminoles, but the Seminole tribe said, no, we're honored by that. And so it is strange to see this. And in many cases, it's not being done by some people within the Indian groups. It's being done, as you point out, people who are pushing this wokeism.
Starting point is 02:10:41 I refer to it as Marxism because it really is the same type of tactic that the marxists used uh shivan fleet's been very good about saying you know this is this is exactly what they were doing in china you know it doesn't have anything to do uh with uh slavery or different indigenous people groups this is just a tactic that they use so let's talk a little bit about your your book uh not, because that is one of the key things. Identifying people as colonizers, implying that we're thieves, descendants of thieves, and therefore all of this stuff has to be eradicated, rewritten, and reallocated with reparations and that type of thing. Talk a little bit about that book, Not Stolen,
Starting point is 02:11:21 the truth about European colonialism in the new world. Well, you know what? I totally agree with you that this is originally a Marxist idea. It's a very 19th century idea of how society works that says there's only two groups, oppressor and oppressed. And so they come up with the idea that if you're the colonizer, you are always the oppressor, you're always bad. If you are the colonized, then you're always innocent, you always do everything right. And again, we got rid of this idea in the history profession after the 1960s and 70s, after the hippie movement died down, we got some sense and we realized that reality is multifaceted. It's not always A versus B. So what we see now with social media is the resurgence of the simplistic 19th century Marxist idea where instead of the bourgeoisie and the proletariat, it's the Europeans and indigenous people, or it's white people and black people, or men and women.
Starting point is 02:12:16 And so what they're trying to do is rewrite history to take out all the cases where Europeans were good, were decent, were noble, were moral, where they were trying to help the Native Americans. They also try to erase all the times when Native Americans were nasty to each other, genocidal wars, slavery, all that stuff. And so the premise of the book is to say, let's turn the clock back to the 1990s or the early 2000s when historians had a balanced view of Europeans and Native Americans. There were saints and sinners on both sides. But now, since the rise of BLM, I suppose, we're not allowed to say anything good about Europeans or anything bad about Natives. And that's, frankly, completely unscientific.
Starting point is 02:13:03 No historian should support that. And, of course, kind of similar to all of that was the 1619 project. I'm sure that's a core part of your book addressing that. Yeah, absolutely. Well, I mean, they say in the opening paragraphs, we want to rewrite American history to put slavery as the fulcrum around which all of american history revolves and again any historian worth their salt knows history has multiple causes and effects there's no one thing around which everything revolves so it's an ideological project it's trying to create a discord where there used
Starting point is 02:13:39 to be a consensus and it's frankly kind of a resurgence of 1960s black pantherism it's it's that kind of marxism and it has no place in a modern uh scientific field and of course the weather underground at the same time bill ayers and his people started talking about white skin privilege they didn't invent it but they started popularizing it and then he you know after he stopped bombing buildings he started bombing mines in the educational system with the idea of white privilege but yeah that was it was all really kind of a Marxist tactic because they realized that it wasn't working to talk about people the Americans believe that they had economic mobility and so the kind of class warfare based on economic classes that they used in
Starting point is 02:14:27 Europe wasn't working here. So they had to do something along the lines of racial division and conflict. Right. Well, I mean, if you look black families in America have on average been more and more wealthy every decade. And then we have the election of a black president in 2008.
Starting point is 02:14:44 And I think the left started running scared. And they said, unless we create a new narrative, a new division, black people and white people are actually going to get along. And everybody's going to, you know, help create a better American society. That was like their worst nightmare. And so they come back with this 1960s, 70s stuff. Yes. Yes. come back with his 1960s 70s stuff yes yes and and so you know when you talk about this um are you focused uh are you focused on uh the u.s predominantly or do you also look at um
Starting point is 02:15:13 the implications as they're being used in the uk because they're also tearing down statues they're based on slavery because the uk was central to the to the slave trade of course uh no credit is given to those people who stopped the slave trade and then the uk uh you know basically paid stopped slavery by paying off the plantation owners they don't talk about that aspect of it of course it is very um it is very transparently one-sided in their discussion of all of it but but give us an idea of the scope of your book yeah well i mean i have become a professor of global history here in the netherlands they're a small country and they think about the
Starting point is 02:15:51 world at large and so i was an historian of the spanish empire but i also knew a lot about more recent economic history so i just started taking on these big picture ideas know, so the book covers 500 years of European colonialism and contact with the natives. And it also talks about Latin America, a little bit Mexico, but also North America. So the United States and Canada with a real focus on the US. But I start out with the beginning of European colonialism with the Spanish because there's so many things people think about Columbus, they think about the Aztecs and Cortes, and there's so many stereotypes that people have been told which are frankly just plain wrong. Most of the people in the New World actually lived in Mexico or in the Incan Empire. There were very few in North America. And when you look today, most of the population of Mexico, 80% of them are mixed Spanish and indigenous. Very few people are actually European,
Starting point is 02:16:54 you know, full blooded European. So if the Spanish were trying to commit genocide or move the natives out of the way, they did a terrible job. And in North America, there were so few people that by 1820, European settlers outnumbered the natives 100 to 1, which is what we still see today. So these ideas of genocide and settler colonialism need to be addressed by looking at the bigger picture. Yes, yes. Talk a little bit about the 1619 project, because one of the things that really concerns me and that that date i think was picked to to try to preempt uh the american
Starting point is 02:17:32 tradition of the mayflower in 1620 so we're going to erase that and we're going to make this all about slavery and of course this is something that that the Marxists have been focused on extensively, especially at Harvard. You had Pete, I call him Buttigieg, but his mentor there, Sakvan Berkovich at Harvard, was always about deconstructing everything in terms of how Puritans and Protestant America had ruined everything. So that was his kind of worldview, his lens of everything, that he would deconstruct everything by taking it back to those roots, those evil roots. And so it seems to me like that was a part of it as well. But for the early decades, how do you see this? They dismiss it as a myth.
Starting point is 02:18:24 I think that maybe it's not, but I'd like to know your opinion as a historian. The fact that the early pilgrims who went from the Mayflower to that area seemed to get along for several generations with the Indians that were there for the most part. What do you think? Gee, imagine that. Yeah. So, I mean, the idea is originally to discredit capitalism by saying that the roots of capitalism in america were based on slavery which has now been thoroughly debunked by economic historians but most historians today aren't trained in economics so they can't even really read that literature um and that's so important because that's what the basis of the reparation
Starting point is 02:18:59 stuff as well so you get into the the numbers and the figures in your book yeah yeah so i mean that's the thing i can actually come up with numbers and figures which most of my colleagues are happy to breeze over and or they their heads spin if they even think about them but talking about racism and getting along for the first couple of centuries i mean all the way up till the end of the 1700s most europeans believed that native Americans were, quote, born white. And this may sound a little weird, but they actually thought they were the same race as Europeans because they were from the same latitude. So they didn't think skin color was based on race back then. They thought it was based on where you lived in relation to the sun or to the equator.
Starting point is 02:19:43 So they actually thought Native Americans were the same race as them. They didn't even use the term red man until after 1800. So the idea that their hatred of Natives was based on racism is completely fallacious. There's just absolutely no truth to it at all. They thought we were all descended from Adam and Eve. And you see so many sources that say these people are just as clever as we are. The only difference is our technology level. Yes, yes. And that really, you say, descended from Adam and Eve. I've mentioned that many times. I've heard it said from a Christian perspective, there's only one race.
Starting point is 02:20:21 That's the human race. The only difference is the direction that we're racing. And the Christians would say, are you racing toward God or away from God? And the skin color doesn't really matter. And so it's interesting that that Christian perspective has been there for many, many centuries. It's nothing new. Absolutely. Yeah. And so there were some scruffs on one side or the other. You had King Philip's War after several decades and some other things like that.
Starting point is 02:20:47 But these are the types of things that happen within different European groups. Same groups will go to war with each other. You have civil wars. You have wars between different groups. You have recrimination because of somebody committing a crime in one community or the other, that type of thing would happen, but it had been peacefully adjudicated and it was not the kind of the environment that has been depicted in 1619. Talk to us a little bit about the economics without, I know that you know we don't have the paper in front of us to look at the numbers, but talk a little bit about the economics aspect of that, because that's very important
Starting point is 02:21:28 in terms of the reparations thing that is being passed around. And of course, money being added to grievances, that's going to be a very powerful political tool for them to wield. So talk a little bit about reparations. Yeah. Well, I mean, well, first of all, you need to think about numbers and how many native Americans there actually were, how many were being wronged. Uh, you see major websites saying, for example, that Columbus killed 7 million people in his Spaniola, the little Island where he first landed, but they recently did a genetic study and found that there were only 30,000
Starting point is 02:22:03 people living there when Columbus arrived. I mean, so that's the kind of crazy numbers that we're seeing. So you can imagine that any other economic figures, any kind of numbers at all are very difficult to pin down if we can't even get the population figure right. We see claims for reparations, you know, again, some of the universities in the Midwest, things like that coming up today. And the real question is, how much was that land actually worth? So in the 19th century, most native tribes were still in the Midwest anyway, were hunter gatherers. And so there might only be a couple thousand people living in an entire modern state.
Starting point is 02:22:43 That's, you know, hunting and gathering does not produce many calories per acre at all so once you turn to farming as thomas jefferson said these people now only need about one one thousandth as much land to farm as they used to need to hunt and natives themselves started using firearms they started living near the settlers because they were a source of gunpowder firearms uh iron tools things like that and then the natives themselves helped deplete the game so sooner or later they were going to have to turn to farming and then the land once you farm it becomes much more valuable it's much more productive and then the the white settlers start building roads which connects it to the ports which creates more value in the land so uh if people are claiming value for land today
Starting point is 02:23:34 it's been developed for 200 years uh 200 years ago it was literally empty scrub with a couple deer on it um and a lot of times those payments have already been made and settled in court years ago. And of course, people just bring them up again because it's basically a free handout. And it was very disrupting. They started deconstructing some of those things in Oklahoma and created a great deal of unrest and uncertainty. And of course, we're just talking about reparations from the Indian side as well. But that's fascinating, the fact that when you look at the scale of people that were here, as you mentioned, with Columbus
Starting point is 02:24:15 and with other issues, maybe that's one of the reasons why they want to shut down these Indian museums so they can stop actually finding out real scientific information about the population that was there and how extensive it was and what was happening there, maybe shut that down and tell some happy stories from a different political perspective. Maybe that's the motivation. Oh, I'm afraid so.
Starting point is 02:24:38 I think there are some groups who really do want to shut down the history and erase that history because it doesn't go with their own narratives in the current day, which would entitle them to more handouts. They don't want you to know their tribe was only in a given area for a hundred years before the white men arrived, that they had picked out several other tribes before they arrived. I mean, history is a lot more complicated than they want you to think. That's right. And, you know, it's portrayed in a very simplistic way that the only conflict is between white Europeans and the American Indians that were there. And yet they had a great deal of conflict with each other as well. They had slavery internally with each other, as did every society. And that's why I mentioned, you know, when you talk about not stolen, you know, slavery in turn, it's a global situation, so it's a common thing throughout human history, but it's always portrayed as something that is uniquely
Starting point is 02:25:30 European, and that is what these people are portraying it as in order to get reparations. Absolutely, and I mean, so every Thanksgiving you see all of these articles appear online that mention King William's War, that mention a couple of massacres but as you pointed out uh there were often decades in between these wars between europeans and natives um and the europeans were living in scattered uh houses all amongst the natives clearly that's because for generations they had no trouble with them at all so you know everyone was trusting each other everyone was living with each other so the idea that there was a constant warfare that europeans were taking slaves um was not the case meanwhile um in massachusetts many tribes thanked the
Starting point is 02:26:17 puritans for imposing a peace in a huge swath of eastern Massachusetts, which they said, a peace of the likes of which we have never known, already within 10 years. That's what the Indians were saying to the colonists, thank you for imposing this peace, because they used to enslave each other. So, they were constantly at war, constantly in danger of being slaughtered or enslaved. And of course, it's that kind of tribalism that they uh our current government is trying to re-establish uh you know for the longest time we had that commonality the the people who were settling it uh there they saw everybody as um uh descended from adam and eve all as created by god all as human beings and so it was that commonality as they said in the
Starting point is 02:27:03 mayfire complex complex part of the reason that they wanted to come to a new land was to spread christianity and that was part of the christian ethic that is so despised was the fact that they wanted to bring out the commonality in people rather than focus on tribal differences and those kinds of tribal differences as they emphasize that now that's going to take us back into a conflict that was already there in so many different ways. Talk a little bit about colonialism and slavery and other areas besides America. Yeah, well, I mean, what most people don't realize is that the aztecs were huge uh slave drivers not only that but that when they enslaved people they often uh brought them as part of the human sacrifice
Starting point is 02:27:51 machine their religion was based on they're saying maybe 20 or 30 000 human sacrifices at the aztec capital per year wow there's suspicions that these people were used for protein because they didn't they had killed off all the megafauna when they first arrived so there weren't many large animals so maybe this is what was going on but anyway there were huge slave networks all across mexico when cortez first arrived he was gifted 20 women by a local chief these women had basically been used as slaves, um, and, uh, had been trafficked from across Mexico. And, uh, so Cortez was encountering vestiges of this, uh, this thriving slave market, uh, when he first arrived, that was just part and parcel of the way the world worked down there.
Starting point is 02:28:38 And how did they react to that? Did he, um, uh, what did he do with those slaves? Did he continue in that tradition or. Well, that's the wild thing about Cortez is he, one of these women turned out to be exceptionally bright and a charismatic leader, and he used her as an interpreter for the Aztec court, it turned out she had been raised as a noble woman and her name is Marina Cortez took her as a, uh, as his mistress and had a son by her who he later ennobled. The pope actually gave him the title of duke.
Starting point is 02:29:11 And so he was raised, even though he was a mestizo, to this great glory. And Marina basically helped Cortes conquer the Aztec empire, as did tens of thousands of other native warriors who made the bulk of Cortes' army. So the Spanish then imposed something nobody ever talks about, which is a Pax Hispanica. On all of Mexico, these tribes were not fighting each other now for the first time in history. They weren't enslaving each other. They weren't sacrificing each other. And so the quality of life for the average person, once they survived the diseases that the Spanish accidentally brought, um, then, uh, the quality of life for them increased dramatically.
Starting point is 02:29:54 And so what was, uh, as a PAX, um, um, the, a piece that they imposed across Mexico, uh, and it was, but how is this portrayed by the left differently from that? Well, that's just it. Yeah, I mean, the left doesn't want to talk about that at all, right? So they'll say, oh, 100,000 people died in Cortez's wars. They want to leave it at that. If you Google it, it'll say 8 million people were killed in Cortez's wars. That is highly contentious. And at least 90% of
Starting point is 02:30:27 those people who did die, died of disease, which again, in the 17th century, nobody could control over the 16th century. So the left will completely ignore the fact that the human sacrifice was stopped, that the tribal warfare was stopped, that there had been forced removals and genocides that no longer occurred. And frankly, anything they don't want to hear, such as in the 19th century, the United States introduced smallpox vaccines to Native Americans, saving tens of thousands of lives. All those facts just kind of go unmentioned, shall we say, by my colleagues. That's interesting.
Starting point is 02:31:06 And so when we look at it in terms of reparations, is there a reparations movement outside of America? Or is this something that is really kind of spearheaded by the American Marxists? Are they using this for political purposes elsewhere throughout Central and South America? Well, you know, it really started with the kind of new Black Panther movement, the sort of BLM movement. Around 2016, they started calling Bernie Sanders a racist for refusing to support reparations. I mean, all these crazy things. And it really spread from there.
Starting point is 02:31:40 So the British are getting some of this from former uh members of the british empire where the british were involved in the slave trade um and then indigenous groups across the world have taken have gotten on the bandwagon if you will because they realize there's political wind behind this these sales for reparations uh but they still mostly um come from the African pan African slavery movement. Now remember, 90% of the slaves coming to the New World did not go to the United States, they went to Brazil and other places. But in Latin America, people are still a little bit more chilled out, they realized that Columbus is kind of, you know, their mestizo, a lot of these people are mixed European and native. They see Columbus as one of the fathers of their race
Starting point is 02:32:27 and also their native ancestors as the other fathers of their race. And so they're not quite as into this reparations idea as we are in Western Europe and the U.S. So they're not tearing down Columbus statues like they're trying to do. Not as much. That's interesting um so um when uh when you look at this from a standpoint of reparations again i think uh probably the um the information that you have bringing truth to uh the size of the population the economics that
Starting point is 02:33:01 are involved there i think that is is going to be a key for people in terms of takeaway from your book. I think that's probably one of the most important things that people could get from. What are the other lessons that you would suggest that people can learn from your book? Yeah. Well, I mean, pretty much any of the stereotypes that you hear about stolen land, for example, or about genocide, for example, or even the Trail of Tears. These are things that we used to have a balanced scientific idea about, but which now you're only allowed to believe one extreme version of what happened. So, you know, for the first 200 years, the Europeans in North America were very content to just stay along the coast and have trading forts I mean they made a proclamation line in 1763 which basically said no one's going to settle West of
Starting point is 02:33:50 this ever they thought the Native Americans were going to be in control of 90 of the continent in perpetuity so the idea that the Europeans arrived with the idea of stealing the land is is totally wrong they actually there was a huge real estate market thriving real estate market where natives would sell land and get gunpowder and tools you know so people forget this stuff all the time even the trail of tears it was one of the most shameful episodes in american history 60 000 natives were removed to Oklahoma from the southeast but even then the U.S Supreme Court uh said that this removal was illegal and ordered Jackson not to do it you know and so people are saying oh the U.S is this genocidal country look at the Trail of Tears the U.S Supreme Court itself
Starting point is 02:34:40 forbade this to happen and many members of Congress protested some davy crockett was a congressman he actually resigned in protest at the removals uh intellectuals and the public were in a huge uproar martin van buren who was the vice president said wow this was the biggest public uproar we've ever seen in the united states against any political action so that says to me there's a lot of good in american society even in in the 1830s, goodwill towards the Native Americans that my colleagues are absolutely refusing to acknowledge. I mean, there's a book out called Surviving Genocide about the Trail of Tears, and they're pretending that it was a genocidal movement. It was not uniformly approved by any means. And I talk about that many times.
Starting point is 02:35:25 I talk about the Supreme Court. Everybody's saying, well, the Supreme Court's made its decision. That's done. I said, no. Jackson said, well, you made your decision. Let's see you enforce it. Everybody wanted to do it, right? And the interesting thing about that is that the Supreme Court at first said, well, you can do it.
Starting point is 02:35:39 Then when they saw it in practice, they changed their mind within about a year, I think it was, and said, no, you can't do that. And so as you point out, there's a very simplistic notion that is being sold to people that's the basis of all of this Project 1619, all the rest of this stuff. They want to paint everybody in these very simplistic stereotypes. It's kind of ironic because they're always complaining about stereotypes, and yet they're creating their own stereotypes out of all this, aren't they? Absolutely. Yeah, it's ridiculous. I mean, they're pretending that the settlers and natives never got along,
Starting point is 02:36:14 but you open up any source and you see they're all camping out in the same village together for weeks and months on end, obviously trading with each other, communicating with each other, most of the time getting along very well. So even stereotypes as simple as that. Yes, and I can't remember the details now, but it seems like there was something about what kicked off all of this stuff were some complaints. But locally, I think there was, wasn't it somebody who was selling them Bibles
Starting point is 02:36:40 and was a friend of theirs or something that was trying to intervene at the beginning of the Cherokees being removed. As a historian, you probably know more details about that than I do. What was it that kicked that off? It seems like even at the very beginning and even at the local level, before it went up to Washington, there was a lot of movement and support of the Cherokees there locally from the Europeans.
Starting point is 02:37:02 Oh, yeah. Well, there were several missionaries who had gone down there. They had taught the Cherokees how to read and write. They helped them create their own alphabet. They set up a newspaper. Samuel Worcester was one of the missionaries whose case was later brought to the Supreme Court against the removal. So, I mean, he was instrumental in helping to bring the Supreme Court case.
Starting point is 02:37:23 And then for generations afterwards, there were people who went along with the natives to Oklahoma to help make sure the soldiers weren't too mean to them, to help them set up stores. And, you know, even Jackson, even his officials were thinking because gold had just been discovered in Georgia, they were thinking that they really ought to remove the natives for their own good because there were so many squatters moving onto their land that nobody could properly control. I mean, this was frontier territory. The natives were outnumbered maybe 50 to 1 by this point. And so there's even arguments, some historians have made this
Starting point is 02:38:03 in good faith, that this was actually the best thing to move them beyond the borders of the United States at the time. So again, we see lots of countervailing logic and reasons happening on the ground that you really need to understand the historical sources before you can judge. Yeah, yeah. And of course, there was lot of uh interconnection in many different ways um you know the the cherokee got along very well with the europeans in general i don't think there was it wasn't really any any uh violent conflict i don't think there was a lot of intermarriage there was a lot of cultural exchange religious exchange when it came time a few decades later about 30 years later when the civil war happened cherokee were supportive of course they didn't like the fact that the federal government had removed them. I'm sure that had something to do with it. But there were close ties to the people in the area between
Starting point is 02:38:52 the Cherokee. Didn't they? It seems like they, I don't recall any conflicts like you would see in some other areas out west. Yeah. Well, I mean, the fact is half of the cherokee leadership a lot of the major players such as uh major ridge were at this point um half cherokee half european there there was a native american practice of adopting people into your tribe so most of the leaders were were part uh european many of them had been educated back East. There were some Indian schools that had been set up by missionaries for the idea of making them literate so that natives could support themselves and make legal arguments in Washington. So there was actually, Major Ridge himself had actually fought with Jackson in a previous campaign against the seminoles so they all knew each other
Starting point is 02:39:51 uh these elites so the the native elites and european elite many of the natives didn't even uh want to go with the tribe because they already own land outside of tribal land they were already running farmsteads and other businesses so there was so much interaction on the ground intermarriage on the ground uh people knew what was coming for years before the removals um so this was no surprise so the tribes who did get removed knew what they were signing up for they had all been offered farms uh instead of removal which they refused you know and that was done on a political vote so i mean when you know the details uh it's it's once again a lot more complicated and messy oh yeah yeah yeah i've uh i've talked to many times about it mainly from the supreme court standpoint and um a little bit about um you know a little bit about the the missionaries and their connection to them i did not know that there were europeans who
Starting point is 02:40:41 accompanied them out there what was was the basis though that began, was a justification for removal? Where did that all come from? Yeah, well, I mean, even as late as Jefferson's presidency, even a little bit after that, the idea was that the natives in the Southeast had been granted this land. It was because the land was granted by US property right, they were not ever going to be removed. And so this is one of the reasons why there was so much outrage when Jackson started this process to actually remove these natives beyond Mississippi. And that's why the Supreme Court was willing to stand up for their property rights. I mean, so the idea had long been, all right, they can't be hunter gatherers anymore. Let's give them title to land and this will protect them.
Starting point is 02:41:34 And I think the real outrage that Davy Crockett had was that, look, these people now own title to land. We can't just transfer human beings off their own property. And that's what caused a lot of the real fight and what was the justification that the people were trying to remove them from what was their justification for taking them yeah the treaty and that it it came it became politically uh expedient to do this after the gold rush in the in the southeast so i mean there were there were a couple of u.s mints that minted only gold coins i think at delona georgia and uh in charlotte i think in north carolina and so once gold was discovered there there was a huge rush of
Starting point is 02:42:16 settlement into that land there were skirmishes if the indians retaliated they'd get massacred by you know 20 times as many white people as they had warriors. And meanwhile, the natives had actually been starting to increase in numbers. They were actually doing well on their lands there. And so Jackson was partially elected on the idea that he was going to free up this land for settlement by whites, even though the federal government disapproved and almost every northerner disapproved at the time wow so it's basically uh we found gold and so we gotta rethink this yeah what was going on yeah well that's interesting but as you point out you know even though the origins of it the basis of it was was bad you had people on both sides uh and people who were allies for doing the
Starting point is 02:43:01 right thing and i think it is a it's an important thing for us to understand the reality of history, that it's complex. It's not one-dimensional. It's not very simple-minded as people who are propagandists want to present it. And we've had very simple-minded versions of history in the past that went the other direction, off the other direction. And now we're getting a very simple-minded direction of history. So it's good to have books like yours that put the things in context. There's going to be good and bad people on both sides. There's good and bad in every person.
Starting point is 02:43:31 And so, of course, we're going to have good actions and bad actions on both sides of this. It's very interesting, especially, Jeff, in this area. I live in this area of the Gatlinburg area and that type of thing. So the Cherokee thing is something that I find to be very interesting, especially since the connections to the Europeans seem to be so strong. And the injustice at the same time was also there. But as you point out, there are people on both sides, Davy Crockett, other people in the Supreme Court who tried to stop this at that time. Give us an idea. We've got a little bit more time here.
Starting point is 02:44:06 Give us a little idea of Canada, for example. What was happening there? Now, is there any push for reparations in Canada? I would imagine with the Liberal government, they're trying to find something there. Was there a great deal of conflict in Canada? Well, I mean, so yeah, let's just say with the liberal government in Canada in the last few years uh the reparations movement has really gone into overdrive uh an enormous amount of Canadian federal money has gone towards the tribes in recent years they're saying that the
Starting point is 02:44:38 tribal budget is growing faster than the Canadian military budget and and so but the question is is this money well spent is it actually helping people or is it just going to a few elites and often to white people like maybe some of the lawyers who are representing the natives uh and so there's a real question of whether this money and these reparations are actually going to alleviate poverty there's also the question of government handouts in general. Is it a good thing to encourage people to give them a stipend every year, or would it be better to encourage them to go get educated and get out there and make something of themselves? And then this is based on some of these perceived injustices in Canada. The main perceived injustice was the residential schools, which were going right up to the 1970s, 1980s, where Native kids were taken off the reservation and taught at a Canadian school.
Starting point is 02:45:31 They were given Christian education. This, of course, is highly taboo for some people. But when you look back at the administrators of these schools, there were things that were ineptly done there were times when disease broke out at the school because just like in any school in the year 1900 you're going to have diseases break out um but most of the people running the schools thought they were doing good they said i'm taking an illiterate kid i'm giving them skills i'm teaching them to be a carpenter i'm teaching them to sew and we're going to help them assimilate into Canadian society so the intention I think was pretty much good and Noble even if in the execution it was a little bit 19th century sometimes um but when you look at the number of Canadian natives who were massacred
Starting point is 02:46:20 by uh European Canadians the most they can come up with it is about two dozen. So the idea that, you know, Canadian natives were massacred by Europeans is totally ridiculous. So they say, oh, well, maybe we didn't commit genocide here, but we committed cultural genocide. And they use the residential schools as an example of cultural genocide. In the book, I talk about how that's all been taken much too far as well. Oh, yeah. Yeah. There was a lot of that about a year or so ago, and a lot of their narrative about what
Starting point is 02:46:57 was happening in the schools was debunked. I'm sure you address that in your book as well. Really took that to an extreme, resulted in a great deal of people feeling they were justified to deface and destroy church property and things like that. And I am concerned about the reservation system when we look at that. I see that as if we don't learn a lesson from that, I see that as a pattern that could be utilized in smart cities and that type of thing. You know, there is an effort, again, to try to remove people from their land and to lock us up in cities.
Starting point is 02:47:29 They've actually got a plan for that globally that we should all be worried about. And I guess you're saying that they're in the Netherlands as well. You're in the Netherlands, right? Correct? Yeah, I am. Yeah, I mean, partially because I had to leave the United States because if I didn't do my research on DEI related topics, they weren't going to hire me. So in some ways I've had to come to exile in Europe.
Starting point is 02:47:49 Wow. That is, that is something, isn't it? You have to have intellectual exile in order to be able to do history. But that's really where we are now. Thank you so much for joining us. It's been a fascinating discussion. The book is, uh, not stolen the truth about european colonialism in the new world uh jeff finn paul is the author jeff where can people find this message uh amazon or do you have a website that you saw directly it's definitely on amazon uh and other major booksellers as well okay and i think you know if you look it up not stolen you'll probably that'll be the easiest way to find you'll see the rest of the subtext there thank you so so much for joining us. It was great to talk to you. And it's very important if we don't understand what history is,
Starting point is 02:48:28 that's one of the reasons why they want to eradicate it, because then we are basically putty in their hands. It all repeats or rhymes in one way or the other. Thank you so much, Jeff. Appreciate it. Okay. Thanks, David. It was great.
Starting point is 02:48:39 All right. We're going to be right back, folks. Stay with us. Thank you. L'esprit de l'esprit Thank you. Making sense. Common again. You're listening to The David Knight Show. All right. And we got a couple of comments here. North American House, I suppose, from Canada. It says, billions of dollars spent on Canadian Indian reservations,
Starting point is 02:50:33 and they're still third world hell holes with no clean water, no indoor plumbing. Yes, and a lot of that is, you know, in the American reservation system, at least, is because you have very corrupt tribal government, some bureaucrats who are empowered to run this thing. They take away property rights from people and they're not, you know, it is a very tightly controlled system, which I think in many ways is what they're trying to create a higher tech version of with the smart cities. And High Boost says they canceled the redskins they canceled the land of lakes girls etc yeah it's and that's the worst part of it you know we look at the chiefs or or things like the redskins or we gotta we gotta cancel that and it's not tied to any particular indian and uh indian tribe and uh so you, they're basically able to do what they wish, but I don't know what was wrong with the land of lakes girl. I don't, it was again, it's insanity,
Starting point is 02:51:31 but thank you for the tip. Why J 72. I appreciate that. So it's good to have you back today, David, praying for your health. I appreciate that very much. Thank you. I do appreciate your prayers for that. Let's talk a little bit about what's coming up in terms of the Super Bowl. There's interesting statement done by the quarterback. And I want to contrast that to something from an actor. I'm not going to try to pronounce his name. Can you pull up the article? And this is the guy who's traumatized by negative reviews for Marvel's Eternals.
Starting point is 02:52:04 The Eternal movie was a DEI festival, and it was sold that way. Nobody liked it. Nobody wanted to talk about it. But he was so traumatized by the negative reviews that this actor says, I still talk to my therapist about it. And I thought that was very interesting as a counterpart to, as everybody's talking to these Super Bowl quarterbacks and players, how they deal with things. And there was an interview with a quarterback for the 49ers, Brock Purdy. And what he said was exactly the opposite.
Starting point is 02:52:39 But let me give you what this particular actor said. He played the superhero Kingo in the Marvel release. He says it was really, really hard because Marvel thought that movie was going to be really, really well received. And scroll up to the top. People can see the picture of him. There he is. There he is. Okay, so that's what he looks like.
Starting point is 02:53:00 He said, so they lifted the embargo really early, and they put it in some fancy movie festivals. And they sent us on a big global tour promoting the movie right as the embargo lifted the reviews were bad and i was too aware of it i was reading every review and checking it too much he said um in this article from breitbart they point out that disney promoted it by emphasizing the diverse casting. They made the movie was all about DEI. And so it was a massive failure. And it also, as part of that, it had Marvel's first gay on-screen kiss between two men. So audiences hated it. Critics hated it.
Starting point is 02:53:42 Everybody hated it. And he says, I thought it was unfair to me. It's unfair to me it's unfair to my wife emily i can't approach my work this way anymore he says something's got to change very intentionally so i started counseling and i still talk to my therapist about that emily his wife says that i do have trauma from it emily and i just got dinner with somebody else from that movie and we were like that was tough wasn't it and he's like yeah that was really tough and i think we all went through something kind of similar and that kind of
Starting point is 02:54:11 gives you an insight into why these people who are rich and famous in hollywood are so paranoid about all this you know they live by um their most recent movie and they're very afraid of losing their status, even if it's somebody like this guy who didn't have any status, was hoping for status. Contrast that to this quarterback of the 49ers, who was the very last draft pick. And they have kind of a joke tradition where the very final draft pick is 260 something people are picked every year for
Starting point is 02:54:47 the nfl and the very last one is celebrated as mr irrelevant and um the person who started it who did it as a joke with the nfl they have a jersey that is the team that picked that person and they take them to the place of their choice and they celebrate and and uh brock purdy was the very last one and his story is almost kind of like the movie rudy in a sense i looked at it he his nfl career uh began as he was the 262nd pick in the 2022 nfl draft but now he's become an mvp candidate he's a starting quarterback for a team that is headed 262nd pick in the 2022 NFL draft. But now he's become an MVP candidate. He's a starting quarterback for a team that is headed to the Superbowl.
Starting point is 02:55:31 So from Mr. Relevant to Mr. Super, I guess, Mr. Incredible. He said, but he had a very different perspective on this. He said, for me playing this game, playing this sport, he said, there's a lot that goes into it. And he says, it's easy to get wrapped up and wanting to be loved he said that's what this guy who was the actor for uh the marvel movie didn't you know was feeling the same thing
Starting point is 02:55:56 he says you want to be loved obviously by your teammates by everybody but also the world he says for me in that passage and he talked about the 23rd Psalm, the Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want. He says, for me, in that passage, it's saying, I already have what I need from the good shepherd, Jesus. And so, you know, when you look at this, he said during the games, he's praying, but he's not praying for victory on the field. He's just praying to have peace, to have steadfastness in all of that chaos. He said, just to have that even-keeled state of mind that I get from the Holy Spirit, he said. And it's a very different perspective, isn't it? He says, I've never tried to hold on to football life very tightly. He says,
Starting point is 02:56:44 I've held it pretty loosely. And see what God has in store. He says, I've held it pretty loosely. And see what God has in store. He said, I've stayed faithful to him, and he's taken me to places that I could never have imagined. I think that applies to all of us. You know, when I look at this and I get back and forth with the stuff about Trump and the MAGA people who are worshiping him, ignoring his background, all the rest of it. What motivates me out of this and what gets me really angry that I have to watch out for
Starting point is 02:57:15 is not that I'm not being liked. It's not that I'm getting a lot of hate from these people. But I just hate to see people taken advantage of. I hate to see the sheep follow their bad shepherd over the cliff and at the same time, push a lot of other people over the cliff along with them. And that's really what is going on. And that's really what, what bothers me. I have to pull back and say, you know, I just need to, I need to be, um be calm during this chaos and calm during this and understand that my perspective on this is that of the watchman on the wall, that you have to warn people.
Starting point is 02:57:53 If you see something that is there and you don't warn people about it, their blood is on your head. But if you tell people and they won't do anything about it, then that is on their head. And that's how I have to look at it. But again, I thought it was a real striking contrast between two very different worldviews. One of them very temporary, very secular. And the Corbett Report has a piece that was picked up by a Fre thought project, 2024 and the pursuit of happiness. And in it,
Starting point is 02:58:26 he talks about how, you know, we look at the news now in 2024, he lists them, you know, the digital ID, CBDC, the great reset,
Starting point is 02:58:33 the scam Demick treaty, the great war, a poly crisis and all the rest of it. And we could go on and on. There's many others, right? We could start talking about what they want to do, a climate and many other things like that.
Starting point is 02:58:44 And he said, you know, what, what does it mean to pursue happiness? And he says, you know, we have to understand, first of all, that, you know, and we don't have time to unpack this because the show's about to end. Many people go back and look at what the founders were talking about in terms of happiness. They were not talking about hedonism. They were not talking about comfort. They were talking about in terms of happiness. They were not talking about hedonism. They were not talking about comfort. They were talking about the pursuit of virtue. But we also need to look at it from the standpoint of this contrast between the actor,
Starting point is 02:59:15 the Disney actor, and the Christian quarterback. When it is happiness and peace and calm, it's not really based on what happens to you. You know, a lot of bad stuff has happened to Brock Purdy before he got to everybody said, oh, well, he's going to the Super Bowl as a successful quarterback, but he's gone through a lot of things that were not good for him.
Starting point is 02:59:39 We all do. And so happiness is more, happiness is basically the way that we talk about it today, is what happens to you. And if it's just what happens to you, then you are a victim or a potential victim of happenstance. Because both good and bad things are going to happen to you that you don't have any control over. But if you're anchored to something else, as Brock Purdy was, then that gives you, as I've said many times, a lover and an anchorage outside of this life, this time, and outside of your circumstances.
Starting point is 03:00:14 And that is why Christians don't talk about happiness, even the pursuit of virtue. Christians talk about a joy, a joy that is not part of the second, moment that we live in that's secularism thank you for joining us the common man. They created common core to dumb down our children. They created common past to track and control us. Their commons project to make sure the commoners own nothing. And the communist future.
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