The David Knight Show - BREAKING Prior Restraint of Ballot Access as Trump & Lala File Lawsuits
Episode Date: August 20, 2024Election corruption begins with ballot access and the two party system has mastered the manipulation.  Lala sues in NJ and Trump in WI to keep Dr. Shiva off the ballot.  Dr. Shiva, shiva4presiden...t.com,  joins to give his perspective on citizenship, loyalty to THIS country over other countries, and the role of electors. Find out more about the show and where you can watch it at TheDavidKnightShow.comIf you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-showOr you can send a donation throughMail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @DavidKnightShow@protonmail.comCash App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Money should have intrinsic value AND transactional privacy: Go to DavidKnight.gold for great deals on physical gold/silverFor 10% off Gerald Celente's prescient Trends Journal, go to TrendsJournal.com and enter the code KNIGHTBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.
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All right, welcome back.
And joining us now is Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai, who has run for, I think it was Senate in Massachusetts.
He's been very politically active, but he's also trying to help people to get control of their lives.
You can find, he's got several different websites.
Shiva, the number four, and president.com.
Shiva4president.com is one place where you can find him.
So joining us now is Dr. Shiva.
I want to get him on to have some counter-programming to the Republican and Democrat stuff that we're getting inundated with.
So thanks for joining us, Dr. Shiva.
Yeah, the other website is truthfreedomhealth.com, David, where they can really find.
So one of our slogans that
we put out there David is shatter the swarm and people go to the website shattertheswarm.com but
preeminently what we are leading with is people need to learn how to save themselves save yourself
yeah um there's no one coming to save us uh and I don't mean that against any religious or spiritual modes, but I mean that in a very, very responsible way.
Well, you know, we just had Joe Rogan and was it Dennis Quaid or Randy Quaid?
I can't remember. I get them mixed up.
Who had just got a movie about Reagan, and they were saying,
so who's running the country?
And it's like, why do you want anybody to run the country first place?
Secondly, we can see that nobody visible is running the country.
The people who are running the country are not the people that you're voting for.
So what can we do to make our lives better?
Yeah, the swarm is running the country.
It's a decentralized group of people who have a goal to maximize power, profit, control.
But what I wanted to share with you, David, is, you know, we have a massive movement, a global movement, Truth, Freedom, Health.
In the United States, that movement is manifesting itself to, again, mobilize people bottoms up,
to build a serious movement that educates people that it is only us, we, the people that can have ever changed anything significantly.
It's never has come from top down.
If anything has come from top down, it's hij from top down it's hijacking a bottoms-up
movements to divert them that's right but one of the important things is that um you know in the
united states when you run for election particularly in the general election on november 5th which is
coming up 2024 um people forget that we're a republic where you have states and the states
elect their representatives to this
organization called the united states government they elect house of representatives they elect
senators but they also elect electors this is very hard for people to understand the 12th
amendment they do not elect me for president they do not elect trump they do not elect kamala harris
on november 5th right and the way this has manifested itself in a very real way and i would probably say only about
100 people really understand this from a legal and even judges and let me explain what i'm talking
about so we have been getting on the ballots in many states close to 15 states and other states
will be we still are getting on the ballot as a righty you have to still so when you get on the ballot
in a state everyone should listen to this carefully it's not i am getting on the ballot
for november 5th it is a set of electors so for example in the state of new jersey
people come together and some people say oh we like this guy Trump other people say we like this
woman Kamala other people say we'd like dr. Shiva those people can be electors
of me and and so in New Jersey you need 14 electors and the 14 electors that
number reflects a number of house of representatives plus two senators
typically okay so those electors those slate of electors a slate of electors for trump the slate
of electors for kamala the slate of electors for dr shiva are the ones who are running for office
on november 5th they're not i'm not the one who's running well i because we're republic i'm a
resident of massachusetts i can't run for office of electors, which is the office of electors in New Jersey.
I would say most people don't even know this, David. I'd say 99.9 percent of people.
So in New Jersey, we have thousands of volunteers. Out of them arose 14 electors.
Those electors then have to go get papers from the secretary of state to nominate so people
are nominating them those slates okay so our slate of electors who um want me who say that
if they are elected electors on december 17th which is the um first monday after the second wednesday that's when those electors if they
win will vote for me it's a little bit complicated but this is how the actual general election works
in a presidential election so new jersey um our slate of electors fulfilled all their rules to get
themselves on the ballot which means they got the signatures
they got thousands of signatures everything um so we get on the ballot then we get a challenge
a lawsuit by kamala harris against me running for office not me but to be specific the electors that want me to be president okay and the challenge
was not directed to me i am not the party it was i mean it was directed to me it wasn't directed
to our electors and the challenge said oh dr shiva writing a letter to me a lawsuit against me
saying you can't be president because you're not natural born
okay so let's unpack that a they have no jurisdiction over me b the qualifications
for president are not decided until december 17th and thereafter by congress only congress can decide c a slate of electors can pledge their votes to anyone mickey mouse
cadel castro someone who's 10 years old someone who's 100 years old they can pledge their vote
to anyone so again everyone needs to understand this very simple concept but it's not because
people don't teach history anymore those plate ofated electors, when they put the name,
when you go to vote, it says Dr. Shiva.
That's a brand.
That means they're saying we're under this brand
called Dr. Shiva or Trump or Harris.
Now, prior to the 1900s, when you went to vote,
let's say there's three people running for office
and there's 14 electors,
you could have 42 names on a ballot.
My math is right, three times 14. And it became onerous for the states to to do this so they said oh we're going to collapse
these electors under a label trump kamala harris dr shiva okay so it's very important to understand
people are not voting for me or trump or harris on november 5th they're voting for me or Trump or Harris on November 5th. They're voting for the slate of electors.
Since you're running as an independent, I've been involved in this in third party politics with the Libertarian Party back in the late 80s and early 90s. And so in that, what we were doing
was we were getting a party on the ballot and they would have as part of your petitions that
you'd sign, you'd have to have the wording that the we the undersigned uh want to form a political party it's not just that i
would like to see a choice on the ballot no you're you're forming a political party or whatever and
so what they would do is they would um allocate to the the parties who were free to choose their
uh their candidates any way they chose they could have a state financed
primary or they could just meet in convention and choose their candidates and then also in meeting
in convention they would choose their delegates so that if that party and you know for president
they would have a nominee that they put there uh that would be that whole slate of delegates whose
names were submitted to the board of
elections.
So with you, and is it just in New Jersey?
Is that the wording there?
Or is it something that...
Everywhere.
You're voting for the office of electors.
Every state.
This is the 12th Amendment.
You're not voting for the president.
You're not voting for the name Donald Trump.
You're voting for that slate of electors.
This is why they could swap out Biden for Harris, because those slate of electors were pledged to Biden, which is a it says in there please be mindful even though the name of your candidate is showing up there
you're not voting for them you're voting for the electors anyway so kamala harris and the
democratic party sue me now they have never sued anyone in new jersey before in 1972 linda jenis
ran under the socialist workers party okay meaning she didn't run her slate of
electors ran she was only 31 years old roger calero ran in 2004 and 2008 he was not a naturalized
citizen he wasn't natural born he was a nicaraguan citizen but he was the a different party's
candidate okay those set of electors.
No one challenged him.
In fact, he got on the ballot and got about a couple hundred votes.
But that's the way it runs.
This is why in Colorado, when Colorado tried to take Trump off the ballot, the Supreme Court swooped in and said, no, you don't have any right to qualify.
Because they said he's unqualified to run for president because he committed insurrection insurrection you know committing insurrection is one of the qualifications
or not committing insurrection everyone needs to understand that the qualifications for
becoming president are decided by they're decided by the uh david can you take one one second sure sure that's one yeah yeah it's it's uh it's very
interesting because this this is the party that is always talking about it's the end of democracy
this is the the party that has shut down all of the primaries this is a party by the way that
wanted to shut down the primaries in florida the dnc shut it down uh they had at the time that i
don't know if cornell west was
still there but you know cornell west was running essentially as a democrat rfk jr running as a
democrat uh he had this other guy was his name philip dean or something he was uh but you know
they had three or four people who wanted to run against biden and they said no we're just going
to shut down the prime sorry about that david sure i have um so anyway the key thing i want
to let everyone know is and i by the
way most lawyers don't know this most judges don't know this yeah they don't well there's a height of
i was just telling the audience where you're going i said it's the height of hypocrisy these people
were saying well it's going to be the end of democracy you know you got to vote for the
democrats because we're all about democracy you can vote yeah you're voting for a slate of electors
right the reality is anyone can run for office
a five-year-old can run fidel castro vladimir putin can run for office in the united states
if he gets a bunch of electors saying they're going to pledge what will happen is let's say
that happens let's say a bunch of electors get together in new jersey and they say we want by
the way any state we you know our pledge candidate is putin let's say he gets all the electoral votes on december 17th
what would then happen david is would go to congress congress would then say no no no he
can't be on he can't be our president because he's not born here he wants to overthrow the united
states etc the point is many people anyone can run for office right so why is kamala harris's
campaign they came after me it went to a
one of the lower court uh lower courts by an administrative judge the guy didn't even listen
to any of the arguments then i had to appeal it to the appellate court they didn't want to hear it
and now it got appealed to the new york new york supreme court new jersey supreme court and they didn't want to hear it really what's interesting is
the main newspaper new jersey said oh they didn't want to hear it dot dot dot because he's anti
israel and he's anti-vaccine mandates okay he justified it the bottom line is the following
they sued the wrong person because the electors are the ones they should
have gone after my electors bottom line is they did everything perfectly so we have a major lawsuit
that's brewing right now number one you can natural born equals naturalized citizen that's
the 14th amendment which has been adjudicated with schneider versus rusk and bowling versus sharp
so i told everyone we ran this would come up but the bottom line is we are a republic every state
elects its electors those electors can pledge their vote to anyone it is congress who decides
who's qualified or not so if i were to get elected or my all the electors to be specific get elected who pledge
their vote to me on december 17th thereafter congress would have to have a meeting wait a
minute he's a naturalized citizen is that qualified or not that would go into a massive debate yeah
that's when qualification occurs so they are conflating running for president with becoming president
yes running for president is different than becoming president anyone can run for president
everyone should repeat that a hundred times anyone can run for president and when you run for
president at or on election day you are not voting for the president of the United States when it comes to the presidential election.
You're voting for the office of electors. Right.
And if those based on those slates of office of electors getting selected, then.
That candidate, then they pledge that candidate.
This is prior. This is really based on this is prior this is really like prior
restraint it's what this is right and and so you know when you when you look at this what does it
tell us it tells us a the democrats are hypocrites uh b they don't want to have elections uh they're
scared to death of people having a choice and of course they're also afraid of you because they
didn't do this with other candidates so we're this exactly because i will probably take a half a million votes or something or a couple hundred thousand votes in
new jersey i'm very well known that's where email was created i'm well known all over new jersey
so kamala harris is afraid that i will disturb that they didn't do this to roger calero who ran
for president nicaraguan citizen right so this is the big news and wisconsin is doing the same thing all right because they
know i'm the candidate david that they must make invisible it's only a few guys like you
who walk the walk all these other influencers and podcasters who talk about against zionism
who talk about anti-establishment they're scared you can fill in the blanks to put me on their
shows right that's right that's what's really going on i'm i'm the can fill in the blanks to put me on their shows right that's right
that's what's really going on i'm i'm the big elephant in the room people want to make invisible
but the fact that kamala harris and the democratic party and by the way it's interesting kamala
harris is supposedly indian whatever she is the lawyer that they elected is an indian guy and the
secretary of state is a black woman. These people are violating the 14th
amendment separate of that. The 14th amendment is what Kamala Harris run Obama run. Yeah. And
it allows me to run. So they always get, you know, color on color crime. This is what the
elites did all over British did all over Africa, right right you get the black people to oppress black people
the british did this in india you get gandhi to screw over the brown people so this is quite
fascinating to watch in jersey which is one of the highest populations of immigrants legal
immigrants highest population naturalized citizens that kamala who's by the way a tamil brahmin is going after a non-brahmin yeah it's
so wild yeah so where is it now you said that you appealed well so now we i can appeal it all the
way to the supreme court so that's what we're strategizing this is going to be in days this is
hot news that everyone should be covering the new jersey globe was forced to cover it but they
rationalized it
saying oh yeah they don't need to hear his case by the way he's anti-vaccine mandates he's against
israel and as you know that justifies it that justifies keeping you out of politics right
that's amazing that is breaking news and uh that's very important so um i was not aware of that it's
very important so david i have i have that it's very important so i have a i
have a slight thing i gotta i can come back if you want a couple minutes or we can read you know do a
follow-up but i just have something that just popped up because we have to submit a couple
papers sure i understand oh thanks yeah you're on a deadline here so yeah if you want to uh you want
to come back you can do that and uh we'll keep it open for you to do that if you want to get back on travis
what's that uh the show ends in about a half hour so i don't know if you've got the time
i may be able to go five minutes and come right back just give me five minutes if you can keep
going sure i'll be right back in five minutes all right yep all right well i'll be right back
trey keep it going welcome back and again we've got a question for you dr shiva uh can you ask
dr shiva about trump taking money from the Adelsons to benefit another country?
Yeah, I mean, the big thing with Trump, and this comes back to this, I think, general question, David, about loyalty to the United States.
Yeah.
And I think it's very related to what the founders, I think, were really looking for when they wanted loyalty to the Constitution.
It's very deeply related, in my view, to Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution, when we talk about natural-born citizens.
Yeah, absolutely.
And this reality.
That's about loyalty, as you said.
It's about divided loyalty.
Right. this reality that's about loyalty as you said it's about divided loyalty um who is more loyal
the person who takes 100 million dollars from another country and says i'm going to make sure
you're going to own the presidency and i'm going to make sure that you also own congress again i
mean who's got the loyalty there well if you go so if we go back to the 1700s hamilton and madison had many many deep conversations about
this um which uh john yinger a scholar at suny has talked about and he's documented bottom line
is that when you really unravel all this and I don't have time to do a historic analysis here, but bottom line, the founders felt that their theory was those people were natural born just solely on the soil would be loyal.
Those people who fought for this country, the Marquis de Lafayette was made a natural born citizen, quote unquote, natural born.
It's never defined, by the way.
Yeah.
Yeah. Quite interesting. made a natural born citizen quote unquote natural born it's never defined by the way yeah yeah quite
interesting he was born in France but they made him a natural born citizen and all of his heirs
and then they carved out for naturalized citizens about 10 000 or more of them that they too could
be president in 1787. okay there were seven signers of the constitution including william patterson
were born in england or other parts they too could become president so it's not like the founders
had this very clear view oh anyone who was born outside of the united states is going to be
disloyal the general notion was that a naturalized citizen who became part of this country and natural born and including someone like the Marquis de Lafayette, they gave him the nom de plume of natural born.
Quite interesting.
Now, you forward it to today to answer your question.
We have 99.99% of people in Congress are natural born citizens. Yet they have to give their oath to AIPAC.
Trump just got a hundred million because he basically says,
I mean,
you look at a speech he just gave that,
you know,
Israel should be expanded.
He will do whatever it takes to support his,
his,
uh,
he'll put Israel first.
Yeah.
And that's what's occurred in the United States.
Now you take someone like me,
when I became a naturalized citizen,
I had to give up my Indian citizenship,
which allowed me to be prime minister or president there.
I had to take an oath of allegiance,
which natural born citizens do not need to take saying that I will take arms
up for the United States,
that I will not follow any foreign powers and I will not have dual
citizenship.
Okay. I had to do that as a naturalized citizen. that I will not follow any foreign powers, and I will not have dual citizenship. Okay?
I had to do that as a naturalized citizen.
Who the hell are these people who say that I cannot run for president?
Yeah, let me ask you about that, because, you know,
Trump endorsed Dr. Oz, who said, well, I'm not going to give up.
He was in the Turkish army.
Yeah, he was fought in the Turkish army, and he said,
and I'm not going to give up my turkish citizenship unless i'm elected and then that case i i will give it up so that i can get in on the
classified information everything's like what you know it's like where is this guy but how how was
he able to you said you had to give up your uh foreign citizenship and i had to give up my
passport i had to give up my foreign citizenship and oath allegiance i mean if you look at the naturalized citizens oath of allegiance yeah it's quite remarkable that everyone doesn't
have to take that oath david i wonder yeah i wonder why dr oz uh still had his citizenship in
in turkey and you know east now has it because he lost but he was right that was endorsed by trump
you know exactly so the reality is um the we have to look
at what these people say what they do trump is a complete bs-er okay he says anything that needs
to be said that's right at the time to get whatever he wants okay yep and the oath of
allegiance says i hereby declare an oath right that i absolutely entirely renounce and abjure all
allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince potentiate state or sovereignty of whom or which
i have therefore been a subject or citizen that i will support and defend the the constitution of
the united states of america i mean there's other provisions there but you're not supposed you're
supposed to give a full oath to this country, right?
Against all enemies, foreign and domestic,
that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same,
that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by law,
that I will perform non-combatant service in the armed forces of the United
States when required by law,
that I will perform work of national importance under civil direction and
required by the law.
And that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion so
natural born citizens do not have to take that oath yeah that's right i can get deported if i
don't fight for the united states think about that yeah so we need to understand in many ways it naturalized you took
natural and you eyes them you naturalize them okay is equal i would argue it's even higher
than natural born natural born citizens do not need to take this over yeah that's right yeah
it's interesting you know back in the it it's something that's talked about in terms of my Christian religion.
When I talk about the fact that God has adopted us, they point out that in Roman society, you could disown your natural born child.
But if you had adopted somebody, you couldn't get rid of them. You couldn't disown and adopt a child, you know?
So it's kind of the same argument that you're making there so it's in wisconsin and new jersey right now where
lala is trying to rig the election and i well no no no no in new jersey it's lala in wisconsin
it's trump oh really okay yeah because whoever thinks they're going to have a chance at winning that state, right?
Right. The point is that our candidacy, my candidacy is the elephant in the room. We're
not just some frivolous candidate. We have a movement. People know about me. People know I
was the one who fought for people against, you know, the election fraud. People know that it
was I who exposed the backdoor portal to twitter people know is the one i who
fought against the lockdowns booby kennedy supported lockdowns trump supported lockdowns
biden supported lockdowns they know i'm the real fighter david and they know that we're not going
to just get five or ten votes like roger calero that we're going to get hundreds of thousands of
votes which can you know disrupt this election yeah. So both parties are violating the law
and do not recognize the 12th Amendment,
the 20th Amendment,
that only Congress can qualify a candidate.
And this is what's known in legal terms
as a non-justiciable issue.
Yeah.
That even the courts can't rule on.
It's a part of the political process.
If you want Mickey Mouse on the ballot
and a bunch of electors want him on the ballot
and electors vote for that person,
then Congress will have to say,
well, Mickey Mouse, you know,
he's a cartoon character, he can't be.
That's what Congress is what decides that.
The states have no jurisdiction.
They do not have any jurisdiction
to qualify the potentially pledged candidate of the office of
electors it's like fundamental constitution yeah and it's amazing how many judges don't know this
that's right how many lawyers don't know this i was speaking to uh ralph nader's lawyer for 30
years he goes oh my god you know you're absolutely right because this makes no sense they have no right to take you off the ballot they can go after the electors if the electors weren't residents if
they weren't citizens but you're there it's presumptive they're putting the cart before the
horse yeah that's right and what we have the fake electors the the issues with that of course
is the electors have to be declared by some legal authority typically the
board of of elections as i said when they were contesting this if the um you know there were four
states uh republican legislatures two of them had republican governors and said they wanted to
contest that they could have since they weren't having any luck in the courts they could have
gone to the legislature if the legislature would have said we recognize that slate of electors, then you would have had a determination would have to been made in Congress on January the 6th as to which slate of electors were they going to recognize.
Were they going to recognize the ones that came from the legislature or the ones that came from the governorship?
And I've got all these people that I've talked to, Republicans don't get that either.
They don't understand that, you know, it has to be a recognized slate of of electors and this is a slate of electors that is sent to washington
but i told people in 2020 i said you know when you look at election corruption long before you
have all the issues about counting votes and custody of the vote way at the end of the process
yeah the beginning it all begins election corruption begins with ballot access.
And that's exactly what you're fighting.
Yeah, I agree.
Exactly.
So we, to let everyone know, be defiant.
We are, we will be, except for four states, write us in.
Write in Dr. Shiva.
Dr. Shiva, write us in.
And about 15 states will be listed on the ballot system now, David.
Unless Kamala Harris and Trump go do this. You know, when I decided to run, Reince Priebus told a friend of mine, who he's on the ballot says for now david unless kamala harrison trump go do this you know
when i decided to run reinz previous told a friend of mine who's on the board of he said oh my god
dr she was running this is going to be disrupted that's from right reinz previous yeah right all
right and it's quite telling that none of these podcasters in fact none of the so-called anti
zionist podcasters dare put me on their show and if you look at my
followers on twitter 366 on facebook 200 or whatever 520 540 on youtube 250 has stayed the
same for two years david oh yeah tell me about it i've stayed the same for eight years um there you
go you know they they capped me and and i look at people. I see videos that come up, and it's like, why am I seeing this?
I look at the fact that they've got like 4,000 people have seen whatever it is that they've got there,
and yet they've only got 900 followers.
It's like, how in the world do I have only a couple hundred people have seen this
when I'm supposedly got 136,000 followers?
They're obviously curating the content and that is that really is
the issue and and so yeah i'm glad to have you on people need to understand what this is and
uh let's understand what the time frame is on this as well so where are you right now in new
jersey the time frame is ballots get printed remember military around mid-september which
means they're designing the ballots which means all of this is right now so anyone listening number one you know hit up uh everyone you know tell them to go to
shiva for president.com download our cards shiva for president.com slash cards start handing out
our write-in and our vote cards everywhere we have to disrupt these guys they need to know that we
the people are a disruptive force that's what our campaign represents all of these elections or selections right now the zionist swarm is deciding
who will give them the better benefits will it be kamala harris or will be trump so trump is
you know bending over to them in any way possible he took 100 million from cheldon adelson's wife
right yeah he'll probably go bomb the entire middle East or you'll say he'll do that.
Anything.
Yeah.
And Kamala Harris and that plan,
it's basically two wings of the swarm deciding, you know,
how much they're going to serve an entity,
which has nothing to do with the United States,
except to get us into war.
War leads into printing money.
Printing money leads to inflation
which increases cost of living which so you have cost of living going up you have lifespan going
down that's what the swarm has gotten you the only force against that is shiba for president
and the movement for truth freedom health and all of you we need to build a bottoms-up movement
that's the only way forward and the the thing i want to say david is you're one of the few
people who puts us on podcasters you know i have an interview with mike adams coming up you know
mike will put us on to the extent where people say hey you better put my dr shiva on okay because
mike needs to maintain his credibility okay i said before you came on i had somebody put a comment on
there said when are you going to have dr shiva on? I said, funny you'd mention that.
We got him coming up in the third hour.
So, yeah.
Yeah.
So, but you will notice these so-called anti-Zionist pro-Palestinian guys are talking big game.
Well, why aren't you supporting me?
I'm the only anti-Zionist candidate because they're using anti-Zionism, many of these so-called anti-Zionist and pro-Palestinian, and they're making money off the deal.
The anti-Zionist pro-Palestinian, and they're making money off the deal. The anti-Zionist, pro-Palestinian movement
has been taken over by liberal Zionists
who push, quote-unquote, ceasefire for 40 years.
They don't want to talk about the real solution,
which is end the occupation of America.
That's what we should talk about.
End the occupation of America by foreign influence and foreign governments.
And Trump serves Israel. Kamala Harris serves Israel. Boobie Kennedy serves Israel. america by foreign influence and foreign governments that's right and trump serves israel
kamala harris serves israel booby kennedy serves israel they do not serve the american working
people yeah he says the quiet part right out loud and of course you are the only real anti-vax
candidate that is out there anti-lockdown as you point out as well not not not that i'm the one
who ran the biggest protest in new jersey against phil murphy and we stopped the anti uh we stopped the vax mandate uh bill booby kennedy was trying to
negotiate with the democrats we did a massive militant protest and scared the hell out of them
yeah so this is why they do not want one of us david coming up from below fighting for us
so they have to anoint that's what you're witnessing right now kamala harris has to go after
me in new jersey trump has to go after me in wisconsin because they do not want any independent
movements they don't want someone like me who came from nothing coming up david that's right or us
that's what i represent and that's what this is about this is a huge opportunity for people to
get involved well wherever that's the key you can write us in yeah that's the key it's got to come from the bottom up and it's not just this but it's also
making the connections and and starting uh to to get the community so that you can
have an impact there locally because it has to be done at the local level all politics is local
and that's what they understood and i played a clip earlier from
lala harris when they had the mainstream media was begging her to do vaccine passports like
france and she said well you know we put out the guidance and everything but you know we
we turn it over to the local people they bribe the local officials and if you don't have good
local officials who are principled and who are going to stand against this stuff that's why i
keep telling everybody i cover national politics because i want people to focus from the bottom up and that's what you're doing as well you're
getting what we've done is at every level the reason we you know one of our biggest reasons
in the success of running for president now we have leaders in all communities all over the
united states who've emerged bottoms up and by the way everyone who collects signatures for us they
all have full-time jobs or they're retired people you know we didn't go and raise 20 million like
booby kennedy did to go pay people to collect signatures for us right everything we've done
is bottoms up everything yeah so i really want to let everyone know that if you truly want to save
yourself no one's coming to save you
there's a movement that exists we're the only game in town truth freedom help.com because we will
teach you we'll give you the tools it's not about me it's not about anyone else it's about you
learning how to fight yeah and in order to learn how to fight you have to understand the science
of systems these interconnections who the swarm is how the enemy operates but without that knowledge you're always going to be 10 steps backward because i'll give
you the next trump the next booby kennedy the next obama the next fool who'll talk a good game the
next bernie sanders yeah and their job is to distract you and make you fat dumb and lazy
so you don't build a bottoms-up movement yeah they don't they want they want you
thinking that there's an easy way out there's no easy way out you got to do your homework
you got to get on the ground you have to do the work that's right and that's how we win
there's no other way to win we have to save ourselves very important they're so clueless
in terms of they don't understand uh they use the labels whatever they come up with it's like okay
well we'll call this more woke and
so yeah we'll call the marxist approach as used by mal we'll call that woke we'll wear the red
hats and all the rest of the stuff and it's like they don't understand uh history they don't
understand what's happened in other countries they don't understand the global agenda they
don't understand who the players are and what they stand for in america and most importantly
they don't understand that it's all about local
and going from the bottom up.
Let me ask you, since I'm in Tennessee,
are you going to be on the ballot in Tennessee?
Yep, it looks like we're already on there, David.
They told us we are.
Good.
Okay, well, good.
Maybe I'll show up.
Not maybe.
I will show up then on election day.
Give me a reason to go to the polls now.
Yeah, Hank, look, when you vote for
Shiva for president,
what you're really saying is
that I want to save myself and I want
to build a bottom-up movement.
And when you write us in, you're saying
I don't believe in any of these guys.
And every vote we take
away from them is a vote for you,
working people, realizing that your
consciousness has been raised. That's a good thing you working people realizing that your consciousness has been raised
that's a good thing i agree every person who raises their consciousness understands this concept
and votes for shiva for president that's what they're really doing they're saying you know i
don't elections or selections and here's a guy who's coming bottoms up that's someone like me
my family where i came up and that's the kind of people we want so you're actually voting for
bottoms up movement when you vote for shiva president yes well that's and you're getting off
the plantation yeah it's it's very important and people can uh go to your website and sign up and
get on the mailing list and find out what is going on with these ballot access cases this is breaking
news and it is very important that we keep our ballots open. It's been one of my pet peeves.
And again, I've seen the games that they play and how they keep people off the ballot.
When we were in North Carolina, they would collude with, believe it or not, the media organizations in North Carolina.
They would actually have the debates run by them.
And even though there was only going to be three candidates on the ballot, they would
exclude the third candidate.
And, you know, that was the media.
You would think that they would want to have something that would be open and lively.
But no, it's all controlled.
And so it begins with the ballot access.
Very interested to see what happens with this.
We'll be following this.
Thank you so much for what you're doing.
Thank you for coming on.
And thanks, David. Again, thanks for having us on thank you thank you thank you be well david best to you
and travis thank you thank you very much okay thank you for president folks.com that'll you
can go there and keep up with what is happening things are breaking very fast for him uh but it
is uh it's good to know that um somebody has uh at least take a look at the organization that he's got and try to get things done from the bottom up.
And so when we look at what is happening across the country, I'll just mention this real quickly.
I won't have time to get into it today.
But I thought it was interesting.
People don't know what is happening.
One example of this is civil asset forfeiture. I said years ago when Megan Kelly, who was a big wig at Fox
at the time before she was, I don't know, she quit or she was fired. I don't remember.
But she came to interview Alex and she interviewed all of us. And in our discussion, I mentioned
civil asset forfeiture.
She did not know what that was.
She supposedly is a lawyer by background, but she really doesn't care.
So here's an example.
The cops pulled over a FedEx Express truck.
They opened up the package.
It had $42,000 inside, and they just decided they would keep it.
They said, the FedEx driver said, basically it's a court fight in Indiana.
They were inspecting a package that was routed by FedEx through its hub there.
They opened it up and found $42,000 in cash and just kept it.
This is called civil asset forfeiture.
They claim that they can keep the property without charging you with a crime,
without finding you guilty, because they're going to do this as a civil process. Something that is
a rule that was passed by the bureaucracy, not a law that was passed by your elected representatives.
Again, do elections mean anything if we are ruled by the bureaucrats? Do elections mean anything if they can keep us off the ballot?
Do elections mean anything
if any of these bureaucrats
can steal whatever they wish from you
and say that you have to sue them
in order to get it back?
We have taxation without representation.
We have regulation
and we have confiscation without representation.
Thank you for joining us.
Have a good day.
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