The David Knight Show - Dark Enlightenment vs. Game B: The Battle Over Technocrat Futures

Episode Date: May 23, 2025

Courtenay Turner (CourtenayTurner.com) joins the show to give a look at Game B and how the different technocrat factions go about trying to achieve the same goal with different tactics.Follow the show on Kick and watch live every weekday 9:00am EST – 12:00pm EST https://kick.com/davidknightshow Money should have intrinsic value AND transactional privacy: Go to https://davidknight.gold/ for great deals on physical gold/silver For 10% off Gerald Celente's prescient Trends Journal, go to https://trendsjournal.com/ and enter the code KNIGHT Find out more about the show and where you can watch it at TheDavidKnightShow.comIf you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-showOr you can send a donation throughMail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @[e-mail] App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.

All right, welcome back folks. And joining me now is Courtney Turner, Courtney Turner com and that is spelled C O U R T E N A Y Turner com like Courtney, but Courtney and she hosts the Courtney Turner podcast. Thank you for joining us, Courtney. Thank you so much for having me. It is a pleasure. And of course, we were talking during the break and you said you wanted to talk about game B versus the singularity and how people are kind of shaping the narrative and how we're moving forward towards the future. So I just like to get you to kind of break down game B for the listeners and the viewers since I was fairly unfamiliar with it myself.

So I imagine that it is a something that people could use an explanation on. Absolutely. So I know a lot of people are probably a little bit more familiar with the Dark Enlightenment currently because a lot of those figures are surrounding the Trump administration. So that has come to the forefront. What I have proposed is this thesis that they're kind of behaving as a dialectic, but they're both fomenting the technological singularity. I see the Game B as a little more of the appealing to like the left leaning, a little bit more spiritual, theosophical camp, and the dark enlightenment is obviously the more authoritarian kind of techno-fascist

gov-corp type of appeal. And the joke I kind of make is that it doesn't really matter if you have mommy issues or daddy issues. They're going to give you a pink or blue comfort blankie to pacify either one of you. And if you have both, they'll give you both. They'll give you the managed synthesis. So, Game B. So, for those who are not familiar with Game B, they call it a new operating system for civilization. It is actually not new at all. And it's my

contention that the intellectual dark web was an influence operation of sorts for Game B. And this has been pretty much corroborated in, there's an article on Manifest Nirvana where Andrew Cohen, he doesn't use the words influence operation so I'll just you know caveat that, those are my words, but he does pretty much say that they laid the groundwork and brought it to the forefront and they were preparing the intellectual landscape for this concept of Game B. Now Game B doesn't actually exist yet but it's been in the works since 2011. In 2011 Jim Rudd, who was the chairman of the Santa Fe Institute, he had met Jordan Hall at the Santa Fe Institute

as well and they collaborated to create this concept. Originally it was centered around they had something called the Stanton meetings in Stanton Virginia. They brought along people like Brett Weinstein who I'm sure a lot of your audience is familiar with to start a new political party. They called it the Emancipation Party. So one of the concepts in game B is a concept I'm seeing really kind of sprout up everywhere. It's this trans political movement. It's this idea very appealing to people who believe that we have a two-party illusion, you know, that they play a dialectical game between the left and the right. I'm not denying any of this by the way.

But the third way, I'm not sure is the better option. of this by the way. But the third way, I'm not sure is the better option. So they're appealing to those who recognize that the two sides get kind of pitted against each other like football team and they're presenting this one nation type of movement and that's actually one of the parties, one nation party. So that it was like a Christopher Light had the United Independent. There's a lot of overlap with all these things, but this was the Emancipation Party. And it didn't really take off, mostly the way Jim Rutt explains it. He's kind of the grandfather of this concept of Game B. But the way he explains it is that the boomers were all in. He said that the

Xers, he could kind of corral, but that the Millennials loved the platform. It was very much aligned with like a Bernie Sanders type platform. You can still see their reform page. They talk about things like a UBI. Both camps do, by the way, right? The Dark Enlightenment camp talks about that as well, because of course, the robots are going to replace us, and so what are we going to do?

We're not going to have any jobs. So we need a UBI. That is one thing they both agree on. They both say, oh yes, the robots are coming for your job, but one of them seems to be a bit more exuberant about it and the others seem more thoughtful. Like, oh well, it's going to happen. It's not great, but it's going to happen. Exactly.

That's exactly right. They tend to be a little bit more, they claim they're more pessimistic about technology and they're not in favor of transhumanism. However, if you look at these group of thinkers, most of them are in the tech venture startup space. You know, Jim Rudd had something called the evolutionary software. That's actually why he was brought into the Santa Fe Institute. It's why he was bringing all these evolutionary biologists into the Stanton meetings back in 2011. He was also the CEO of Network Solutions.

He was on the ground floor of venture capital fundraising for what became T-Mobile. And Jordan Hall is very similar. He was originally R. Jordan Greenhall. A lot of these characters changed their name. I'm still not sure why that is They they rebrand, you know concepts names companies all that seems to change with time My my favorite I always joke is that there would there was a no map Technology, which I'm pretty sure Jordan Hall was involved with

He doesn't explicitly say that but he talks about the concepts of hollow chains and it sounds exactly like what Nomath was. But one of the originators of Nomath, which became S7 Foundation, changed her name from Andrea to Tan. I still haven't figured out why Tan, but it cracks me up every time. Probably just general obfuscation. They like to hide what they're doing and it makes it harder to keep track of who these people are and what's going on. They can continue to work on different projects. Just general sneakiness probably. Yeah, I think it makes it harder to find the trail and I end up spending a lot of time

on the way back machine trying to trace the, you know, like Peter Thiel's project. He has Prospera, right? A lot of the people are familiar with those Bitcoin cities that he's doing in Honduras. Well, the city area of that was Vitalia, and on the website it said, you know, it's a city where you can make death optional. However, they've now changed it to Infinita, but there's overlap here because Jordan Hall has spoken at the Startup Society Foundations, which is held, it's a conference that's held at Prospera. And four years ago, he talked about Game B startups and network states.

Recently within the past year, he did a much shorter presentation on network states and this kind of Game-beat concept, but he's converted to Christianity a year ago. He talks about liturgy and how that can be used for essentially for communitarianism, which I'm pretty sure is not what liturgy is about. But he also talks about, it was a podcast not too long ago, he talked about how Ephesians poor It was a podcast not too long ago. He talked about how Ephesians 4 teaches us that collective cognition, which again, I'm pretty sure is, that's not how I read it anyway.

So you can make your decision. That wasn't my reading. So yeah, so game B, they talk about it as a new operating system for civilization. This emancipation party did not get off the ground because the millennials, as Jim explains it, loved the platform, but they decided they were such anarchists that the concept of a new political party was an enigma to them. And so Thor Mueller was part of this Stanton meetings group and told them they should keep the name Game B for branding purposes.

So they kind of left the Emancipation Party launch concept and they moved forward with this Game B idea. And Jim Rutt has written a manifesto, like a journey to Game B. He wrote it in 2018 but he keeps updating it. And it's a pretty lengthy document of his prediction. And it's pretty interesting because he says that 2045 is when these proto game bees will come to fruition. And I think that's just an interesting time mark

because what do we have in 2045? We've got the AI World Society, which is the UN Centennial Partnership with the Boston Global Forum, based on the book that Michael Dukakis, the former governor of Massachusetts, wrote and it's called, Remaking the World Towards an Age of Global Enlightenment. I do think that's a nod to the New Age movement. When you look at the website, the semiotics very much indicate so. And this is of course the vision for the

centennial of the UN where an artificial intelligence world society will take over. Sounds a little like the singularity to me. What do we have Ray Kurzweil saying? The singularity is a mirror. When is it? It's 2045. So I thought it was a very interesting marker, a timestamp, that Jim Rudd is saying 2045 is when we're gonna have these proto bees So game bee does a lot of them are disciples of people like Barbara Marx Hubbard Barbara Marx Hubbard was a She visions herself a futurist she was she led this concept of

Conscious evolution the foundation was funded by the Rockefellers. Some of her disciples have written a manifesto on Cosmocratic Humanism. So this would be, yes, it's the first values and first principles on evolving perennialism, 42 propositions on Cosmocratic Humanism. And it's a three... I know. They said it was a synchronistic, synergistic experience. This is how Mark Gaffney describes it. He and Barbara had this vision

all at once. It was just this super sex moment that Barbara talked about. And Mark Gaffney has Eros Mystery School. They're very explicit. This is not about sex, you know Even though that's what Eros said that the type of love Eros is supposed to be and of course Super Sex has the word sex Literally in the name, but they say that's not what it's about. It's this radical love affair with the universe

But Mark Gaffney is one of the authors of this Cosmotic Humanist Manifesto you can find it at the office of the authors of this Cosmotic Humanist Manifesto. You can find it at theofficeofthefuture.com. It's pretty easy to predict the future when you plan it. We see that over and over again where they make themselves out to be prophets despite the fact that they've just been working behind the scenes continually to bring about the things that- Architects.

Yeah, they're architects, not visionaries. Or maybe visionaries, but nonprofits, yeah. So, it's Mark Gaffney who's working on his Eros Mystery School. He's doing cross-promotion with Aubrey Marcus on this, and he talks about how we have to revive the ancient mysteries. So, he's very much signaling that this is initiation. Interestingly enough, there is a film called Initiation to Game B. So they very much create, I keep saying I need to

create a glossary because they redefine terms. This is a theme we see with all of these types of people, right? Jordan Hall actually has a document on mediums called On Sovereignty and he explicitly says sovereignty isn't what we typically think it means. You know, it's not about nation states having autonomy and it's not about individuals magically being able to make their own decisions. So he has redefined the term and that's just one example. But they, so this Cosmocratic Humanism, their disciples of Barbara Marx Hubbard, is Zach Stein who is also involved in the Game Bee film, the initiation to Game Bee. He was inducted to the Club of Rome last year. Another one of the filmmakers for

Game Bee is Nora Bateson, daughter of Gregory Bateson, and she was also a Club of Rome member. And then we have Daniel Schmoktenberger. He's one of the founders of, it's now called Qualia Life, but it was called Neurohacker, again the renaming, and his brother James Schmoktenberger has launched this company. But if you look on the website, it's something like 60 board members and everybody and all the Gamebee thought leaders are in it and so are people like all the evolutionary leaders. People like Deepak Chopra are on this, you know, neurohacker now quality of life. So it's a Danish Sponkdenberger and then who was the other one? Oh, Kenneth Wilbur, of course,

Kenneth Wilbur. You know, his developments of altitudes that's based on clara grave spiral dynamics. It's also based on Abraham Maslow's, you know, hierarchy of needs. Abraham Maslow is another interesting character that definitely falls in line with all of this and kind of paves the way. He had a document called Politics III that was published posthumously in 1972 and it was published by Robert Cantor and Willis Harmon. Willis Harmon was the president of the Institute of Noetic Sciences for two decades and he was also one of the lead researchers and editors on the Changing Images of Man document that was done in partnership with Stanford Research Institute and he used his assistant's name, Marilyn Ferguson, to popularize

the ideas in that and that was called The Aquarian Conspiracy. So people might be familiar with that book. And so these are kind of the disciples of that school of thought. Barbara Marx Hubbard was of course also an intellectual disciple of Théoré J. Chardin, right, who coined this term of the Noosphere. He wasn't the only one, you know, there was Vernadsky and there were several others, but he was very much a thought leader in that space of, you know, outlining what the Noosphere would be. And you see that theme constantly. So this is what I'm proposing is that we have these different flavors of something while Game B is presented as being very decentralized, kind of grassroots, but I caution people to remember H.G. Wells said that the conduit to the world brain would be the decentralization

of information institutions. Of course, back then it was the academic institutions, but what are the information institutions today? I would argue it's the Internet, it's the technology. And in Balaji Srinivasan's book on the network state, he actually does say that. He says he doesn't talk about H.E. Wells, but he talks about how it's all going to be decentralized, you know, we'll have a dissolution of geographical nation states in favor of ideological network states, but then later they will be re-centralized. So he even says it in his book that that is the purpose, but right

now they're very much appealing under the banner of libertarianism. You know, I would argue that's what Peter Chiello's Prospera. So there's overlap between these two groups, right? Peter Chiello is usually thought of as being more of the dark enlightenment camp, but we're starting to see some convergence between the two. And I just really keep saying that to me it looks like you get a buffet, like a buffet of poisonous ice cream. You can't see all the poisonous chemicals that are in there, but you might see your

favorite flavor. So if you prefer chocolate or you prefer strawberry or vanilla or whatever flavor, they've got something there for you. But yeah. Yeah, you can pick your preferred salesman for this globalist insanity. They have many different faces that they love to market with. My producer, Lance, has been telling me about this past week just recently, they Google released a self-improving AI that was able to not just improve itself but on an algorithm that has been used for decades and so there's diminishing returns right now but this is a sign of things to come this sort of thing is

coming down the pipeline and it's going to be coming faster than people think it is so it's also interesting to me that they're pointing at 2045 and they also have another you know other agendas which are coming. They want to come to fruition in 2035, whether it's a technological. And it seems that that 10 year timeline would give them more than enough time to implement these horrific policies, bring them to fruition and have people get fed up with the current status quo and be willing to welcome just about anything to get away from what we currently have.

With the, you know, way the globalists have managed things. And of course, they love to think in these long-term timelines. That's one of the areas that they excel in. They plan things out in terms of decades, at minimum. They sit there with, you know, in their clouded back rooms, and they, you know, work together in these very incestuous sorts of groups where they all tie back into one another. So it is very interesting to me, as you said, that is a 2045 where they're looking at the singularity happening. So I would be, yes, I would be very surprised if it didn't even accelerate from there, in my opinion. Yeah, I think it will accelerate from there. I think they're really laying the groundwork right now and they're laying it out in so

many different ways to appeal to different people. So another modality is of course the financial system, right? And we're seeing a lot of that discussion currently where people are cheering the fact that Trump has put his executive order against CBDCs, and I'm glad he did, but now he's talking about things like the stablecoins, and you've got the stable act marching forward under the Genius Act. And what we have is I think it's much harder to sell some of this top-down, kind of centralized, authoritative financial

system like a central bank digital currency. A lot of people in the West and particularly the United States, I think a lot of people have kind of waken up to the potential tyranny that could arise as a result and so there's I think too much pushback to roll that out But they can do it under different banners. And of course in the dark enlightenment variation we have things like the GovCorp, right? A lot of people are very excited about things like Doge and you know, I'm all in favor of efficiency, I'm all in favor of transparency, expose all the bloated apparatus and the bloated spending. That's all great. However, behind that is this concept of the dark enlightenment, which is rage.

Retire all government employees. What do they want to replace all those government employees with? They want to replace it with robotics and AI. They're pretty explicit about this. This is not maybe hidden plain sight, but it's certainly not hidden. And they have made that pretty clear. I'm hoping there's opportunities in that window before they're able to roll that out. And people should absolutely seize whatever opportunities arise.

But I think they need to be aware that that's where they're headed. And I think a AI-managed system could be way more tyrannical than any fascist or communist type of approach. Not that I'm in favor of any of them. Yes. But I do think the technocratic regime that they're trying to roll out is very, very dystopian.

But now they're trying to, for people who are not in favor of a GovCorp type of situation, which by the way, I think also people don't necessarily recognize that or if they do, I'd like to just highlight the fact that this GovCorp is privatizing everything. So I think a lot of people champion that because they think that that's going to be more freedom and they have this notion of it being capitalistic in a free market sense, but it's much more gov-corp, not so much free market where the little guy can have a startup business. That's not what they're talking about here. People like Curtis Yarvin, who helmed this dark enlightenment movement, have even said

America needs to get over their fear of the dictatorship because that is the best system. I might be paraphrasing but that's basically what he said. So these figures are, they fashion themselves philosophers although I have read their material. It's not any great philosophy and it's very poor writing quite honestly. But somehow the intellectuals eat it up. I'm not sure how, but maybe in a soundbite society it's very appealing to have these long bloviations about our dystopian future. But in the more game B, with the kind of libertarian type of umbrella, they're advertising tokenized, it's still a gamified tokenized economy, but now it's more under a banner of something like communitarianism. They

keep mentioning West's book on scales and Dunbar, and they have this vision that you have to have communities that are less than 150 people, because they say that less than 150 people because they say that more than 150 people you need bureaucracy. And so with these smaller communities you could have theoretically you could be devoid of bureaucracy. However, what's going to replace that bureaucracy is the same thing as the GovCorp. It's going to be done under, Jordan Hall talks about hyperstructure

and he says that Bitcoin would be an example of hyperstructure. But what he's really talking about is blockchain and he says even more than Bitcoin, he's an advocate of proof of work types of blockchain. So things like a Quai network is something he's a big proponent of. But it's still this concept of having things like a Quai network is something he's a big proponent of. But it's still this concept

of having things like tokenized, gamified economy, where things are, where assets can be fractionalized. And people think that sounds great. They're marketing it and selling it to you as, oh, so I could have a partial ownership of something if I can't fully afford to own, you know, a piece of real estate or a piece of art or whatever that asset might be. They're talking about tangible assets. But you would like to think, the example I use, you'd like to think that family members and loved ones could share assets. But unfortunately, this is why, you know, estate lawyers exist because it doesn't always quite work out that way. But that's what they're talking about.

They're talking about a tokenized economy and that could be just as draconian and tyrannical. You still need an ID to enter, a digital ID. You still have some sort of a social credit system within that community. I'm sure that if you do something that they decide that doesn't forget if the community doesn't like it But it did not comply with the smart contract that has been instituted right because it's a hyper structure They want to take people out of the equation. And so now you're gonna have these smart contracts who are they're already programmed They're already coded you can't negotiate with a smart contract. Yes. I'm just trying to point out that they're really presenting things in these different

flavors and it's not to say that everybody involved is like a bad, evil, maniacal person trying to control the world. I think some of them are just utopianist. They have a very romanticized vision of the future and they think they're smarter than everybody else. So of course, they're the ones to, or in some cases they're more spiritually evolved, right? They believe in the spiritual eugenics as well. I know no one has gotten it right yet, but we're going to be the ones that do it. We're more advanced. We've come a long way, which is continually what these people tell themselves

every single time. But yeah, what you were saying about getting people out of bureaucracy while it does sound like a good idea At least with people there's a chance for mercy you can potentially appeal to their humanity When you get a computer involved with there is no chance for that. It is simply numbers It will look at what is said and done in the law, and it will just apply that ruthlessly. There will be no chance for it to have mercy upon you. That's right. Yeah, that's exactly right. And you also have to consider that any kind of an algorithm has been programmed, who's doing the programming? It's only going to magnify whatever that person's worldview, biases, or intention was.

And so even if they have the best of intentions, it may not align with yours. Yeah. So, yeah. We see that over and over again, just how rapidly the AIs have been shoved full of Biases from the people who are coding them Program to adhere to whatever the prominent worldview of the moment is and just got a comment another one from our producer The stable coins disease presenting them is just CBDC under a different name. Well, it is a public-private partnership with this crony Yes, they are already positioning themselves to be the first ones to make a killing off of

it if it goes through they want to make sure that they always make their money first yeah yeah exactly right so I yeah I am very concerned just because I feel like they they keep finding new ways to appeal to the resistance. And so I'm just trying to sound the alarm so that people are not, you know, not for me to, you may think that this is a utopia and that is for you to decide, that is not for me to decide. But you should be aware that they do believe in things like collective intelligence. And that is the so, you know, when you look at the game B, it's kind of they're talking about a collective intelligence created through consensus. And I would argue kind of brainwashing.

There's actually Jake Ruse when he's talking about the game B, you know, initiation to game B film, they have these, they call it dialogo. So I think dialogue has drifted very far away from what used to be the Socratic method, dialects. And now I think especially since the Delphi method has come to me in consensus, consensus building. In Game B they call it sense making and they're always having these various dialogues, but in this one, Jake Ruse was talking about how he's working on a Disney project and he's going to have to Trojan Horse Game B through this project. So essentially, you know, inculcate

through the culture, aka socially engineer the masses, you know, brainwash them with this concept. So they're presenting it as bottom-up, whereas the Dark Enlightenment people are presenting it as, you know, more of an outright technocracy, you know, in line with like Elon Musk's grandfather Josh Hadelman was a leader of Technocracy Inc. in Canada from 1936 to 1943 and, you know, run by Howard Scott initially. So this concept that you build a technate, but it's still both of them have this idea

of kind of power blocks. One is more of a grassroots bottom up that is being operated through network states in the cloud and then the other through these power block regions, right, techniques that are very similar to the love of Rome's globalized adaptive regionalization map. It's also very similar to that. But again, it's all still going to be run through what technology and the Internet. And I'll just say one more thing.

I think you want to say something about the evolutionary leader, Bruce Lifton, who I believe he was on the quality of site as well, but he talks about how we evolve. He says we start off as these amoeba. He uses a spiral analogy, which is not a coincidence. This is spiral metaphysics versus like a plumb line, sorry, plumb line metaphysics, where we have reality anchored. And I know a lot of people are probably familiar with the spiral analogy from Hegelian dialectics. I'm actually in the process of writing a book on Hegel's dialectic. It's called Hegel's

Dialectic, a Gnostic Jacob's Letter and a Machinery of Control. And I have a little preview on my sub stack for anybody who's interested in getting a sneak peek at what I've got so far. But he talks about it and he uses the imagery of the spiral and he talks about how we start as amoeba and that amoeba are so intelligent because of their, the membrane, that's where they get their intelligence from and then we evolve into these multicellular organisms and they're more intelligent because they have more membrane. And then he says humans are complex multicellular organisms and we're so intelligent because we have so much surface

area of membrane. And then he says we have this potential to co-create. This is a term you hear from a lot of these conscious evolutionary figures like Barbara Marx Hubbard. This idea that we are going to co-create is a very Gnostic type of concept. But we're going to co-create and he says that we can, we'll either go extinct or we can co-create and we'll evolve into a super organism of humanity and that the membrane for that organism is

going to be what? The internet. So again we have this NoSphere concept pointing us towards the technological similarity. Yes just it's interesting the way they put that the way they act is if technology is a democratizing force whereas technology is these types of technologies are incredibly expensive. AIs are enormously expensive to create and enormously expensive to run on a large scale. So it seems to me that it is inherently undemocratic and that it gives these, you know, these multi-billionaires that believe in this a huge leg up and selling it as democratic seems slightly disingenuous to

me as if it's just kind of a sales pitch. It's like oh, it's Democratic But realistically, how are you as an individual or a small group of you know? a hundred or 125 people going to compete with someone like Elon Musk who has multiple billions of dollars to you know Run these sorts of things and utilize them to their full potential. It seems a Even less democratic than other, you know, than normal when it comes to how much money can influence this type of society. Yeah, and with this trans-political movement, they talk about using, you know, AI and they using technology for voting, which is and putting everything up on the blockchain.

So you've got like the quadratic voting, ranked choice voting. They're very different, various different, you know, offerings of this. There's the conviction voting, but and Jim Rudd talks about liquid democracy. Barbara Marks Hubbard talks about synergistic democracy, but all of this is couched in language that makes you think that it's a very direct democracy, which by the way, I'm not in favor of anyway. That's why our founding fathers created a republic, not a democracy, because they knew that a democracy meant mob rule. So it ends up being quite tyrannical and barbaric in many cases, as they saw in ancient Greece,

and that is why they did not craft a direct democracy. However, they do talk about it being much more direct, but you're using AI and you're using technology. Which one do we think that there's going to be no kinds of corruption involved there? No manipulation. Well, what do we see with our with the voting systems now? Right, we've already had those kinds of challenges But also you're having AI. It's really AI replacing government that's really what you're seeing and they they talk about this in the AI world society they say how all governments are going to be supplanted and replaced through AI. And so in this case, they're just talking about it in a more, again, grassroots, like you're going to opt into this system. But we already have this. We have,

in several states, they're doing these summits. And in my state, say believe it's this month and it is on a digital governance and there's already a chat GPT gov which you have to be a government official to enter the portal and they're doing these symposiums on digital governance and how we're going to use AI and digital governing. Well, yeah, it just gets scarier and scarier as they move to integrate these things. And we've seen just the budget bill that they're working on passing would prevent states from regulating AI themselves. It would be completely up to the auspices of the federal government. They would be able to do whatever they wanted and the state would have no say in it.

One of our listeners was just pointing that out. We talked about that yesterday, but it's just, again, incredibly scary that they're continuing to centralize this stuff. And, you know, just was it the FDA is moving to utilize AI to approve drugs now, I believe. I believe we covered that last week. So it is just they are moving at a very, very rapid pace towards this. Again, push to incorporate AI into all aspects of the government. And as you're pointing out, they then want to phase out the human component, which on the surface, as we said, sounds good, because, you know, less bureaucracy, you think that's a good thing, you know, we're a good thing you know we're spending less on people we're spending less on salaries

but we are then completely at the mercy of these algorithms yes exactly and the algorithms are using cybernetic feedback loops right that's what they're they're they're busy data mining and we see this in every sector possible. We see this with the education system. We see this with just consumerism. That's usually how it's marketed. They're just giving information to understand your behavior so they can give you the best ads that you want to see.

Just the perfect widget for you. That's all it's about. Just making sure that you can fulfill your consumerist dreams. And we've- Right, except the, you know, people. Oh, no, just got a comment again from the reducer. DOGUE is minimizing government, but maximizing governance,

which is a good way to put it. They were reducing the number of people, but maximizing their ability to parse the information that they skim from your life. Yeah, it's a it's GovCorp. So they're really privatizing control. It's no longer in the government, which you know, outside of the classified kind of black ops types of government operations, things are actually fairly transparent under the government, right? You can go and look up what they're doing. Theoretically, you should be able to address your grievances as well. And, you know, that's at least how it's structured. I'm not saying so is how it functions,

but it is how it's structured. A private company does not have to disclose anything. So that's really what they're doing. They're taking it all out of the government and trying to put it into Silicon Valley and where they will have the control and into these mega corporations. So I think it's something for people to consider is what happened in 2020 where, you know, if you went into your mom and pop shop,

oftentimes if you didn't like some of the mandates, you could negotiate with the owner, right? They might have, they might be aligned with your views, they may not, but they would make a decision and sometimes you would have some leeway there. But if you went into a big box store, they were subject to these incentives that were really being, coming down the pike from things like the World Economic Forum the UN Aligning with ESG and the 17 sustainable development goal and that's actually we have these B corps Which you know game B is a very much a proponent of there's already

6,000 B corps and some of them who will they're big companies that you'll be very familiar with, things like Ben & Jerry's or Patagonia. Ben & Jerry's famously said that they are not an ice cream company. They're an activism organization. They happen to sell ice cream. But of course, they have to be an activism organization so that they can meet their ESG adapters so that they can get high scores in their on their B-corporating. So we that's that that's the problem is that it's going to be incentivized for these big

corporations who are tied in with the central banks, the IMF, and these NGOs like the World Economic Forum, the UN. Yes, it's amazing how we've seen it trickle down. Not just Ben and Jerry's is an absurd example of how they implement. They every single one of these companies has been brought on board with implementing these ideas in every single aspect of your life and pushing them on you. I mean, the gaming industry is a tremendous example of that. I know most of our audience probably doesn't play video games, but still, the gaming industry is overrun by people that are obsessed with pushing the current ideology and implementing

them into games and putting that in front of a younger and younger audience to push that on them and to make it their model for the world. Because when you get it in front of a person at a young age, before they're able to critically think, it embeds itself in there. It bypasses critical thinking since they didn't have it at the time, and it makes it very, very hard to dislodge. Because since they didn't reason themselves into that position, it's very hard to reason them out of it.

And I have a comment here from one of our listeners. They want to know about the Internet of bio nano things. So the world society talks about the nano bio things and they say how it will all be connected through the 6G technology. And of course, the internet of nano bio things is operating through humans. It's being powered by humans. The University of Amherst, Massachusetts disclosed their study on 6G technology and how it is powered through humans. I did a recent sub stack. It was called the path to mass surveillance and technological singularity and I outlined, and I'm sure I've left bio things, right? This is a nano technology.

And just to stop on that for a second, people like Charles Lieber were very instrumental in this type of research. And, you know, when you all know, Harari talks about how 2020 is the year when surveillance goes under the skin. I think he meant to say that. And I think that's a very interesting point. very instrumental in this type of research. And when you all know, Harari talks about how 2020 is the year

when surveillance goes under the skin. I think he meant it. And we have Charles Lieber was working on injectable technology that would create self-assembling nanobot technology. And people often forget that he was partnered with Elon Musk on the Neuralink. He patented the Neuralace, which is that self assembling mesh technology. So that that's the Internet of Nanobio things. I think it's

very concerning. Unfortunately, we don't know as much about it as one would like, because I think a lot of it is under classified documentation. That doesn't mean that it's not real. We have a lot of white papers that indicate there is a lot of research and development in this field. We also have Albert Barella, who, Pfizer, who is talking about how you can have, you know, medication that you would take and it would have a sensor to know if you needed to take your next dose and it could, you know, medication that you would take and it would have a sensor to know if you needed to take your next dose and it could, you know, alert you to this. Apparently Ambelify already uses this technology, which is a pretty common drug.

So people can look that up. Don't take my word for it. But I did do some research and I did. That is what I found. Then we have, of course, the intranet of behaviors. And there's a white paper document on this. And intranet of behaviors is a little bit concerning because this is kind of the soft technology of brainwashing and programming and mind control.

Of course the Internet of Nanobio things could potentially, with the brain interface, be more of a hardware kind of control. The Internet of Everything, this is where they connect a network connecting people, processes, data and things to enable enable, sorry, intelligent. I put that in air quotes. Decision making interaction. You know, you have to understand what intelligent decision making means. It means like automated AI driven Internet medical things.

And of course, you know this is a they were doing a lot of research on this in 2020 with the wireless body area networks in hospitals and whatnot but this is even more overtly things like pacemakers typically you the patient is aware that there's an external interface and it's usually couched as being for your own good and in some cases it is. In some cases it really does help people and it's great that they can be alerted if you know something were to go awry. In other cases we have to wonder what if they can control right what did the technocrat magazine of 1937 they said that technocracy the definition

is social engineering they also said that the purpose of surveilling is to control. So we have to consider those cybernetic feedback loops and the role that they play. Then we also have the Internet of Industrial Things, which is industrial settings that are connecting machines and systems to optimize manufacturing and operations. I think this will play a huge role in robotics. And we have the Internet of Smart Cities. Now the Internet of Smart Cities very much ties into this concept, you know, when I'm talking about the Dark Enlightenment versus Game B. We have a whole branch, and that's really what this article is about, was we have all these different types of smart cities.

Of course the AI World Society talks about how we'll all these different types of smart cities. Of course, the AI World Society talks about how we'll have these C40 cities, which are all under the guise of saving the planet because we have a climate crisis that we have to address. This of course means we can't breathe because carbon dioxide is a menace to the society, although anybody who took third grade science knows that it's literally the life molecule, but I digress. The Club of Rome actually admitted it was propaganda. I have this quote in my book. They admitted that it was propaganda because their Limits to Growth document, this is where

they say that humans are the enemy of humanity know we were polluting the environment. In their global revolution document in 1992 they say that they had to get a common enemy for man to rally behind and so of course they decided that who is the enemy of humanity? It's man himself of course because we are the polluter. They pretty much admitted that they lied so that they could get us on board with this agenda. So that's, but the Internet of Smart Cities, the C40 cities, of course the 15 minute cities, a lot of people are familiar with those, there's a couched-in convenience, you'll have everything within 15 minutes and you can walk to, you know, and there's some

merit to that, but of course the part they leave out is all the technology that interconnects and makes everything interoperable But then we have like freedom cities, which you know sound wonderful who doesn't want a freedom city. I want to live in freedom city Until you realize it's just another name for a 15-minute or a smart city They love naming it the exact opposite of what it actually is, you know, they gave us this the Patri Act. Oh, it sounds wonderful. I'm a patriot. I love my country. And then you actually look at the Patriot Act as like, oh, this is the most unpatriotic thing that's ever been put into Congress. You know, it's like, oh, of course they love doing that. It's just this easy, easy slap on the- It's Orwellian. Double speak. It's literally Orwellian double speak. Yeah. Yeah. So we

have the Freedom Cities and that is very much more of a dark enlightenment kind of concept, right? Because it's all about the deregulations. So this is very appealing. It's like what Prospera is, essentially. It's very appealing to these tech oligarchs who want everything deregulated so they can make their rules. And it's very conducive to their initiatives. And then you have in game B something

called the civium project, which also sounds great. It's very utopian, in my opinion. But unfortunately, utopia means nowhere and usually results in dystopia when implemented. But it's this idea that we move out of the cities and they very much glorify the indigenous populations and they forget that it was kind of barbaric and that it actually was quite competitive because game B is supposed to be non-rivalrous unlike game A. I call it the age of Aquarius of technology.

They want us to move into the collective, collaborative, cooperative, and they say Game A is just too exploitive and extractive, but they're going to take the technology and extract that from Game A into Game B. And so in these Syphium projects, they move out of the city and it is glorifying more backward kind of a lifestyle, communal again. However, you have the technology from game A that connects everything. So you're in a networked state, although you may be living more in connection with the land and with people, which sounds like the best of both worlds, except that who's controlling it?

And even if it's AI controlling it, how much freedom does that really afford you? So that would be the Internet of Smart Cities. And of course, at the AI World Society, they talk about how Ukraine is gonna be the central node for all of these various smart cities. And they've done several symposiums talking about how we have to rebuild Ukraine

because it's a central hub for all of this. So that's why we have to give them so much money and, you know, build them back because they've been torn down, so you have to build back better. You can go look on their website. They have all these symposiums. You can watch that for yourself at AIWorldSociety.net or the Boston Global Forum has a bunch of videos on it as well. And then there's the Internet of Wearable Things.

This I'm sure a lot of people are familiar with already. Very much marketed to the health fitness crowd, with the smartwatches and the rings and all of the heart rate kind of tracking. HeartMath, which was actually one of Barbara Marks Hubbard's projects, that was large funding from the Rockefeller Foundation. And you know, some of it's great, like helps you with meditation and you know, that part's pretty

innocuous, but they talk about creating global coherence through heart resonance and now they're talking about heart-brain coherence. So that's got its own connotation there, which seems sounds to me like they're trying to use technology to foment this global consciousness, Noosphere concept. And then we have the Internet of Robotic Things, which I think will be much more pervasive in the next coming years.

I'm sure I've left other things out, but yeah I don't know if that answers their question. That was fantastic. Yeah, you covered so much ground there but that's part of the way they get these things through is they smother you with the sheer amount of their projects. It makes it very very hard to keep track of what's going on since there's just you know tens hundreds thousands of different ways they are working to advance this agenda all at once with numerous little people in different organizations all over the place and as you were saying they're talking about this as a oh this is going to be a non-competitive world order we're all going to be very peaceful we're all going

to just you know be laissez-faire about everything anytime anyone starts selling you a sort of utopian worldview I begin to question it because it seems they themselves don't understand human nature or hoping you don't understand human nature and that we are inherently, you know, we prioritize ourselves and, you know, our family first as a general rule. We are selfish by nature.

We tend to always go after our needs first and if someone else gets in the way of that, we see them as the enemy, the other. And we will do what we can to get what we need and if that impacts someone else negatively, that's a secondary concern. And people that tell you that we can get past that, again, they just don't understand human nature. As a Christian myself, I believe that is part of our, you know, it's built into us. It is down deep. You cannot get past that. That is just part of who we are. And these all these- Survival. Yes. All original sin, all these utopian ideals. Look past that and pretend that it is just something we can, you know, therapize away or however you want to get rid of it, they imagine there's a way that we can make ourselves all just

these good little care bears. And we're going to live in this utopia where we all routinely, you know, everyone looks out for each other all the time and they never have their own self-interest first, which just does not exist. It does not happen. And so any utopian ideology is inherently doomed to fail in my opinion. And so it's always scary to me. I couldn't agree more. And you know if you think about the UN, their

exoteric veneer is all about peacemaking, right? That's there. But if you really scratch beneath the surface as to why, there was a great video, it was posted about 10 years ago, it might be older than that, but it's still on YouTube with Robert Mueller, who was the Secretary General for the UN for four decades. He's the one who created the World Corps curriculum for education that has become Common Corps or as Charlotte is a beat loves to call it Communist Corps in the United States. And this was predicated on the works of Alice Bailey and her book, Education in the New Age.

But he talks about how we have to have peace. And when you really listen to what he's saying, this is why you can't have free will. I mean, he doesn't say the free will explicitly, but this is what he's talking about. This is why we have to have the consensus. This is why we have to have the no sphere and collective intelligence because if we have free will, your version of a utopia, even though utopia means nowhere and usually results in dystopia when attempted to be implemented, but let's just say your

fantasy, your version of utopia might look radically different from mine. It doesn't make you a better or worse person, but we're different. We have different ideas, we have different brain chemistry, we have different makeup, we have different circumstances. All these different variables that make us the beautiful uniqueness of each human being,

but our utopias could be radically different and therefore, they are intrinsically in competition. This is why we have competition. This is why we don't always agree and sometimes those disagreements manifest in you know grave tensions. And so the umbrella of peace, while it sounds beautiful and who doesn't want a peaceful world, in order to create that and to achieve that they have to eradicate the free will of humanity. And when they talk about you know how this will liberate us and create freedom, I think

this is really very much at the core of it. It's a spiritual dichotomy because you have free will, as I believe was endowed by our creator, this beautiful gift, and it's not an end. It's a vehicle. It's a vehicle to pursue virtue and morality. So we have the choice, but it's not an end. And the way I think a lot of these occultist, esoteric types of groups that may be couched in more quote unquote rational philosophy, see it, they talk about it's really a collective

end. So think about things like, you know, Aleister Crowley's Thelema, where he talks about do-with-thou-wilt, this radical freedom to do-with-thou-wilt, or Nietzschean will to power, or Hegel, who talks about the spirit of the Geist, right, the world spirit, and how this is progressing towards the rational absolute. This is so that we can have the state, which is equivalent to God in his view, but he says humans can achieve no freedom at all without complete subservience to the state, which is God. So there's just a couple of examples. I see this theme constantly and it's very misleading because people like Théor Deschardins

talk about freedom. Barbara Marthe Huber talks about radical freedom, but they don't mean the same thing as free will. And so I think that's, you know, but it's all under, you know, whether it's the UN or whoever it is that's trying to put it under the banner of peace. I think we need to really understand what are the implications of that. Yes. It sounds great. Yeah, that is a very good point.

Again, it could be a Pax Romana sort of ordeal where they come in and they make peace by wiping out everyone that's making trouble in their eyes and That seems to be the way these globalists always operate if you're going to cause them problems They want you out of the way. Well Courtney. We've just got a few minutes left. I have thoroughly enjoyed our conversation You have given us so much to think about and the just I encourage everyone to go check out your website Courtney Turner comm and of course Ron sub stack Is that also under Courtney Turner? Yes Fantastic and

So it's Courtney's sub stack but spelled like Courtney. Yes, it is Courtney spelled Courtney See you are T. N. A. Y. Courtney Turner in these last few minutes I would just like to ask you if there's anything else you want to get out there and you know tell people again where they can find you Courtney Turner com Courtney Turner on sub stack is there anywhere else people should look for you I know you've got a podcast the Courtney Turner podcast what else should they be looking forward to from you I know you said you have a book coming out I do so I actually just released on it's on my sub stack so for my pay subscribers it'll be there.

They always get the early access and they get it ad free. So that's just a little treat for them, but I just did a symposium. It's part of my Cognitive Liberty series with Patrick Wood and Ian Davis and David Hughes on technocracy and resisting technocracy hopefully, so we can preserve the free will of humanity. So that is up on my sub stack.

It will be available for free on all of my other platforms. Rumble is the big video platform among all the audio ones as well. I do post on YouTube, but it's really just a preview because I'm on my fifth channel. They don't love me that much, unfortunately. We're not the best of friends. So I just put a preview on there that goes straight from my sub stack and so it is already

up on there. So I encourage people to check that out because it's fantastic. They are brilliant minds, really doing great work. My sub stack is a way that you can support the work I'm doing. And then, yes, I have a book. I'm hoping it will be launched this summer. I will most likely be self-publishing it, but it is on Hegel's Hegelian Dialectics. I call it, A Gnostic Jacob's Ladder and a Machinery of Control. I go

through the ancient mystery religions and how they paved the way for Hegel's dialectic and talk about why it is relevant today, because I think typically people are caught in these dialectical traps. And you know, they can, I say the wizard circle, which is not my term. I mean, they use that term and I think it's really, they are, they kind of cast these spells through words and through language. But what people need to understand is, and you read the works of people like Alice Bailey, they explicitly say that, that they have one exoteric message for the masses and then what they're really doing is initiating people into their esoteric vernacular.

It's for people to understand that they do speak in this isopian type of language and that if we can recognize the games that we're playing, then hopefully the spell will be broken and we can step outside the wizard circle and preserve the free will of humanity is the hope that we, because they seem very bent on eradicating that. So yeah, my sub stack, Courtney Turner's sub stack and my website are great ways that you can find me

and I'm usually accessible on all the social media platforms and my website as well. Awesome. Well, thank you so much Courtney. I really appreciate you talking with me today. And again, the information was fantastic. I thoroughly enjoyed getting the download from it. And so we're going to take a quick break and we will be right back, folks. looks. In a world of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. You're listening to the David Knight Show. Welcome back, folks. The screen split is still up.

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