The David Knight Show - Exposing the CO2 Pipeline Scam: Billions in Tax Subsidies Stolen are the ONLY Reason for Projects

Episode Date: April 24, 2025

     Jeff Weiss unveils the sinister CO2 pipeline scheme—a multi-billion-dollar bipartisan heist (and how we break out of this system, co-author of Free Indeed: Ten Truths to a Life Lived Free) ...    From eminent domain land grabs to deadly CO2 leaks that could wipe out entire ecosystems, this is a spiritual and economic war     It’s the latest twist in wealth transfer as Jeff recounts his personal experience with wind grifts and the seduction of local politicians in the pipeline of green cash.If you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-show Or you can send a donation throughMail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @DavidKnightShow@protonmail.comCash App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Money should have intrinsic value AND transactional privacy: Go to DavidKnight.gold for great deals on physical gold/silverFor 10% off Gerald Celente's prescient Trends Journal, go to TrendsJournal.com and enter the code KNIGHTFor 10% off supplements and books, go to RNCstore.com and enter the code KNIGHTBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Joining us now is Jeff Weiss, and of course I met Jeff when I was on Trent Luce's program, and they had a group, they said, you know, once we talked, at first I had an interview with Trent, and I don't recall what we were talking about, but Jesus was always there, you know, and so we said something about that, and so afterwards he said, hey, if you'd like to come on, we've got a broadcast we do once a week, and three of us do that, and he said, you're welcome to join us today. And so Jeff Weiss was there, and we found out that we live in the same general area, Tennessee. And so we've been talking since then. And Jeff contacted me after I talked about this documentary
Starting point is 00:00:51 that John Birch Society did, Stand Your Ground, by the way, StandYourGround.watch. If you haven't seen that, take a look at that. So a lot of testimony about people who were on the ground and who've been fighting this summit pipeline and these CO2 carbon capture things pumping in in the ground in South Dakota and North Dakota. Very important to understand what is happening with this and the issues involved in it. And of course, it's all based on this idea that CO2 is some kind of toxic poison that we got to get rid of.
Starting point is 00:01:18 It's just just beyond belief. But Jeff contacted me and he's been involved in that as well. So thank you for joining us, Jeff. Appreciate it. There is no problem. It's an honor for me to get to visit with you. And the funny part about this is that, David, you're such a – have such a round knowledge of so many things. And I'm really, as a pastor, you know, I'm usually just gets the Bible and scripture and that's what I lay
Starting point is 00:01:47 on. But you hit a chord with me in this one. And as I've been preparing to come on with you today, it has just gotten me like fired up again. But I have to remember my own message that the resurrection changed everything for me, the world cannot get me the way that it used to before I knew that I was an eternal spirit. But having said that, like you said, I've been doing some things with Trent now for quite a while and getting involved in farming. I was born and raised on a farm and we got into this whole green energy thing unbeknownst to us all because
Starting point is 00:02:23 of a paycheck. You know, all because the check at the end of this rainbow was a pot of gold and those who were chosen to receive this was just wonderful and my father was like, great, put them on there, put up more turbines if you want to. And so it's always been something that I've been interested in and so what we're going to find, I'll just give you what I have found as the conclusion to what we're talking about up front and then kind of work our way backward from that. CO2 pipelines are simply a monopolization of a valuable commodity by about three people.
Starting point is 00:03:00 Right? Everything else is just noise, it's distraction combined with lots of yours and my money. This is simply nothing more than tax credits and subsidies and we all know you have to be of a certain financial ilk to where you even pursue a tax credit. So we can talk more about that but you know this thing's been a lie ever since the beginning just as wind energy is which is really where most of my personal experience is. I've watched them construct these. One of our turbines needed a blade just maybe a year after it was there. And so it sat there not producing for months because it took a million pound crane to come to the property
Starting point is 00:03:51 and they didn't have those just sitting around. Wow. Right? Wow. The blade is 135 feet long. So, you know, it's not something could even fit through a lot of our small towns. They had to remake the towns to move these things in and out. So anyway, and then you speak to the people that are that are in the know and realize that, I mean, I'll never live to see that be profitable if
Starting point is 00:04:13 wind energy ever is profitable. It's not going to be. So it's a grift, a MacGuffin, whatever you want to call it of some type, right? I wasn't awake to all of that then because I was still in the sleeping majority that thought, well, hey man, you know, the more we can get out of Washington here, the better, right? It's just a free basket of money. So the better off, you know, I am buying into all this. So it's wind, it's going to last forever and it's free.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Absolutely. It's absolutely free. They had us on that one. It's windy here here Northwest Indiana so but these lies that have been perpetuated and I'll tell you it goes really back to the irony of distraction through Ephesians 612 and I have it highlighted here where it says that for we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of darkness of
Starting point is 00:05:10 this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Well, those principalities are real. They are specifically placed in certain areas to do certain things, right? And so as I move across the country, I see it just play out everywhere, David. This is a spiritual war that we're fighting, no doubt about it, and it's usually designed to get one side against another side. So Trent Luce, our mutual friend, he started this thing about, I think it's about four years ago now, he was at a governor's economic conference. Get that?
Starting point is 00:05:47 A governor's economic conference. Basically agricultural base when a longtime friend of him who was heavily involved in the ethanol business comes up to him and says, hey, guess what we're gonna do? And Trent's like, what? He said, we're gonna put CO2 in pipelines and we're gonna bury it.
Starting point is 00:06:02 You know? And Trent's like, well, what? You know, and it's like, well what, you know, why would you do that? You know, well, he said there's a lot of subsidies coming our way, you know, and the quicker we get our name in the line, the quicker we're gonna be the recipient of these subsidies, you know? And so that made him curious, but you know how things are,
Starting point is 00:06:21 you go away from the conference, you don't think about it, and then what has to happen is there has to be some kind of an event that brings it back to the front page, right? Yeah. Well, it was in the name of eminent domain and people beginning to lose their property rights. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:37 This has been a couple of years ago now, but people began receiving letters of eminent domain. There were over 80 such letters in South Dakota alone. Is that coming from the corporations too? No. It's coming through the government. They were operating through the government. Correct. Because I remember that was one of the issues with the Keystone pipeline thing. I looked
Starting point is 00:06:56 at it and it's like, okay, a pipeline to get oil in, that is something that we really do need. We don't need to stick the CO2 in the ground, but we do need to have the oil to make plastics and to run our cars and things like that. And you know, it's safer than putting it on a train or something like that or a ship. But the problem was that for these Keystone pipeline things, they were going to give TransCanada, the company that – because it's coming out of Canada – they were going to give a foreign corporation the right of eminent domain to condemn people's stuff. And it's like, whoa, whoa, wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Now that's not right. You know? And so it's like I would support the pipeline in general, but when they got to this eminent domain, that was where it went off the rails. But they were running the eminent domain through, still running it through the governments for the CO2 pipeline. That's right. That's right.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Well, you're going to find that there's a group called Summit Carbon Solutions. Yeah. Are you familiar with Summit? Oh, yeah. And he was there with the Trump at Mar-a-Lago and the other governors. Yeah. Come on, Doug Bergen, Kristi Noem. That was at the end. I wasn't going there yet. But listen to their vision statement, right? but listen to their vision statement, right? We will align incentives to make a positive impact on the economy and communities. I mean, right? We will give you money for nothing, nothing projects if you'll just play along. And that's what I met the mayors, the senators at this petroleum conference that are all like looking at me and Trent like well why are you guys against this pipeline? This is crazy. Well there are so many reasons and I'm sure that that documentary is excellent explaining
Starting point is 00:08:37 a lot of the things. So the question just became you know why would and they were only gonna run this pipeline four feet deep. Yeah. And there became, you know, why would, and they were only going to run this pipeline four feet deep. Yeah. And there was a, you know, there was a couple, but then they were going to get sunk to this point where Trent went in South Dakota over the Balkans. And they were going to drop it a mile and a half deep there, supposedly to fill up the vacated oil area of the Balkan reserves. So bottom line is they decided that lie wasn't good so they pivoted and said no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:09:15 no, no, CO2 is going to enhance oil production. So they came up with this thing called advanced oil production or something like, I don't know if that's quite what it's called but listen to this what was happening there was a study for Cornell University that said we were wrong we thought that water created heat and that's what was creating volcanoes mm-hmm but instead it was CO2 bursting through the crust, right? So it causes violent eruptions and other things. And then there was another study from Macaroon, right? Where Lake Niles had CO2 just come up through a lake and it killed everything within 10
Starting point is 00:10:00 square miles, including insects. Oh wow. Right? And that's like that explosion in the pipeline. They didn't have anybody die but they had people who were very severely and permanently injured from that because it deprives you of oxygen
Starting point is 00:10:13 but it just killed all the fish, all the bugs, everything because it takes out all the oxygen, yeah. Oh my gosh, so just wrap your head around this. You know how that we kill hogs now, most humane, and we have killed turkeys? Concentrated CO2! And you're gonna run it under everybody and it says one of the studies out now says that a three-mile area will be affected by a rupture of a pipe and explode at four foot deep. But here's really David where I thought you would
Starting point is 00:10:46 probably know way more than me because we're just talking about a slew of lies. We're talking about that shiny object over here to look at. I talked to, like I said, mayors, state senators that were just like, you're crazy, hush that nonsense, negative talk. Look at all the money we're going to get here. We're going to have better schools. We're going to have better this. We're going to have better there. So it's all just a high level bribe scheme, right? That's worked for so long, so well. But it turns out here, guess what? A couple of things had to happen to make this be the center point, because it's no mistake that Doug Burgum and
Starting point is 00:11:27 Kristi Noem ended up where they are now and even on the short list of VP candidates in basically states with you know no electoral votes no whatever that's right yeah you know rich Caucasian people with so much to offer a Trump ticket right yet they were they were right there. Okay, so it turns out Where all this comes from is in 2008 under George W. Bush 45 Q I don't know if you've heard of that bill But it was the tax credits were created and they were all about finding a green project anywhere they could find it and throwing money toward it. This is kind of our you know windmill and everything
Starting point is 00:12:10 started to get wind turbines. I'm sorry started all getting back then right. They wanted to push money for it. Well in 2020 with Trump leading the charge the CO2 pipeline through the USID Act, which he signed in in his last 30 days. He signed it into at the end of his first term. He signed it in, right? It allowed the CO2 pipeline mob to get that 45Q tax credit money. Wow. Wow. So now it took it because here what it did was So now it took it because here what it did was it gave them $50 for metric ton for Every ton they could bury 50 bucks. Wow, and I don't even know how that comes out, but I will tell you this when Biden signed the Inflation Reduction Act part of that bill increased the price to
Starting point is 00:13:07 $85 per metric ton. Right? And so this is – I'm talking about Illinois, Iowa, Nebraska, North Dakota, South Dakota, and a little bit of Minnesota. But the total $17 billion over five years that's going to be doled out to people that are able to claim they've stuffed CO2 in a pipeline. Wow. Wow. Wow. And then we look at Elon Musk and he's running this prize that he started back in 2021 to take CO2 out of the atmosphere so they could have something to stick in the pipeline so they
Starting point is 00:13:36 could get the government subsidies, right? And so his goal for this thing, and of course the owner, the winner, the winner not the owner, the winner of the prize was announced on Tuesday and that person got $80 million but that's cheap because when you're talking about what he wants to do, he wants to make sure that the winner had something that was scalable so they could do gigaton level, right? So just take that $85 per ton and, you know, add nine zeros behind it. And so he said, like I say, they invest a million and they get back billions. You know, that's the kind of return on investment they always get. Listen, it gets so much better. And I encourage your listeners, I know a lot of them and enjoy
Starting point is 00:14:22 their conversations as I watch in the chats and they're all very much more knowledgeable than me but if you do a dive in this it is so easy because guess what here's the new the latest thing and companies I forgot to write down the name of the company but it's uh what's his name Warren Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway? Yeah, okay, you know, I mean who they need tax credits, right? Cuz they're you know free money. Okay, so Now when he got he got $35 billion in tax credits in one year and win subsidies. I remember Alright, so now they're into what's called the air capture of CO2.
Starting point is 00:15:07 I guess you get a N95 mask and go out there and, you know, swoop it up and put it in a bucket and then haul it somewhere. That reminds me of Spaceballs where they had peri-air. Remember that? They had a canned air. You pop it and breathe it. But yeah, what are they doing with the canned air now? Guess what?
Starting point is 00:15:24 You can get a metric ton for that kind of CO2. What's that? 150 bucks. Wow. Wow. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. So we're really moving you know moving up the scale but here is a spoiler alert. Oh my gosh this is so good I can't believe I'm even the one that gets to talk about this. Good, I can't believe I'm even the one that gets to talk about this. In order for all of these subsidies to be paid, right, and tax credits to be fulfilled, it has to stay in the pipeline for 12 years. Wow. Now don't you think by then we're gonna have discovered it will never, read my lips, never be recovered. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Never. Number one, they don't even really know how right now. Yeah. They're counting on being able to figure that out. That's why Trent calls it CO2 tombs. Well, you know, who knows, maybe what they should do is they should reroute it and stick it up into Yellowstone. Maybe they could energize those volcanoes up there.
Starting point is 00:16:26 We could get the Supercal there to blow up and solve all of our problems right there. And you know, if it wasn't so dangerous to the average person who, and David, that's where I'll talk about spirituality again. I have been so blessed over the last few years to make some maneuvers and be able to retire and not be serving the invisible God that I served for my entire working adult life and that was debt. I realized that almost every decision I ever made, the first part that had to be calculated in there was, well, how would that affect my debt?
Starting point is 00:17:02 Which if you biblically look at it, that's a God. That's a God. When you have to do this, whether you want to or not, because of this, you're serving that God. And I'm just telling you that my eyes have been so illuminated to people who are struggling like that. So, you know, when I talk, and at this conference, it was three days out there in Bismarck, and I got to speak with this one mayor and got to know him a little bit and try just to have a conversation with him about it. And he was looking at me like I had three eyeballs.
Starting point is 00:17:35 And I could hear it in his mind, don't you understand I have to get reelected? Yeah. Right? In other words, you just, you don't get this thing, you know? And that's where we go back to the simple truth of John 14 6 where Jesus says I'm the truth Yeah, I'm the truth. So if you're out there and you're putting anything into any of these projects Because look into it you can name the next one David Yeah went from wind to solar now the carbon capture as soon as that boogeyman is is dead, right?
Starting point is 00:18:07 Well, the money's still rolling in Washington. They're just gonna come up with another one Yeah, you know, it's an interest And I don't know how far you want to go into all this and we can do much more whenever but bottom line is There are international players here, right? That that you know the some of the people that Trent was mentioning, Saudi Arabia is knee deep in this. And I don't know if your listeners are aware of this, and I'm sure you've talked about it.
Starting point is 00:18:34 I don't get to listen near as much as I would like to. Of course, I would not have a life if I did that. uh Hort Arthur Texas oil refinery during Trump's first administration was sold to Saudi Arabia. Now you know and you're once again your listeners probably know more about this than me but Saudi Arabia truth be told from what you know depends what you're saying, is they're drying up, you know, they don't have just an endless supply of oil. And at the right they're cranking it up. So they are a player in green energy. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:15 They are a complete player in wanting to control, you know, the fertilizers. And so all of this goes back to these three or four people that we're talking about. And one, you know that who Doug Burgum is, right? That he had that tiny little software company worth next to nothing, mysteriously got a great tip, and all of a sudden Bill Gates buys it from him for 1.1 billion. Next thing you know, he waltzes himself into working for Bill Gates, and then it's the
Starting point is 00:19:42 governor's mansion, right? Yeah, that's right, that's right. Literally his qualification was that he turned a dollar into a million, right? And then Kristi Noem, same exact situation, nearly it's a little bit different trail, same thing. Born on third base, thinks she hit a triple. Yeah, where does she get her money? I mean, she's got that $50,000.
Starting point is 00:20:07 We were talking about that, and I didn't dig into that because once again, the resurrection changed everything for me. Yeah. There are rabbit holes I want to go down. All I needed to know is that I think her son-in-law might work for Summit. That could be, yeah. It's interesting, she has that Gucci purse, she had $3,000 there, and I said to Karen, I said, and I always thought the devil wore Prada, you know?
Starting point is 00:20:29 I mean, it's a, how did she, she got the $3,000 cash in her purse, she's got a $50,000 watch. It's about the wristwatch. Yeah. And you know, if I had $50,000 and some bag, one of her lackeys would confiscate that from us saying it was drug money and civil asset forfeiture would apply here. But these people have a different standard that they have. You know, when you talk about, though, all these different projects, you're talking about
Starting point is 00:20:54 wind and how that didn't work out for you. You've got a lot of people who were talked into solar roof stuff that I talked about yesterday and how it's running down and a lot of these companies that put these deals together, they weren't set up to do any maintenance or any of the rest of this stuff and so they're disappearing and now people have gotten, well now what do I do with my roof, that type of thing. And so we've seen this happen over and over again and yet they're still doing all of this stuff and you've got this massive wind project that's off of Long Island that is owned by
Starting point is 00:21:26 an oil company out of Scandinavia. I forget which one of the countries. Norway or Finland. I can't remember which one. But it's going to wind up raising the price of electricity on Long Island astronomically. It's going to be like three times the wholesale price is going to be three times just the wholesale price. It's going to be like three times what the entire price is right now at retail for the people there. For what? You know, these are inefficient, unreliable, and they're really unsustainable. They're not very durable. They don't last very long. These windmills and these solar projects, all the rest of the stuff. And everybody is forced to pay through the nose for all of this stuff. Here in Tennessee, they want to now add the battery energy storage sites, which are going
Starting point is 00:22:09 to be incredibly expensive, to back up the wind and solar, and a big fire hazard as well. And so in every regard, this is a massive grift. And as you were talking about, all these different communities, all the people are like, oh yeah, let's run the pipeline through here, we�ll make a lot of money.� And it really is, going back to what you said, it�s the love of money that�s the root of all evil, isn�t it? And it�s the root of all of these evil schemes. Everybody�s on board because there�s money in it. And you know, it wouldn�t be � if we�ve got principalities and powers that are running this stuff, which they are, it wouldn wouldn't have been a temptation for Christ if that wasn't true.
Starting point is 00:22:48 The devil says, �Hey, this is mine to give to people.� And how does he rope everybody in? It's with their love of money. That's how he gets them to essentially sign the proverbial deal, sign on the bottom line for the money. It's that Faustian bargain that's there. It's amazing. It's so ingrained now, David.
Starting point is 00:23:07 We're in so many generations down the road now. You know, I just saw a young couple the other day just bought a house, their first house, very young, 550,000, you know, the payment. I don't know what it was, but the things that we think we have to do, the things that we think we need to do, the things that we think we need, unfortunately, we have to almost suffer each and every negative consequence to figure out that's what we needed. And that's where for me,
Starting point is 00:23:36 my career and life has led me from, I mean five years ago, I was a, I thought I was a conservative right winger because I'm an abortion survivor and born and raised on a farm and conservative and go right wing and all of that type of thing. And went from Mar-a-Lago all the way across the country doing conferences and tours and finding out that, boy, there's
Starting point is 00:24:05 only one truth in this life and so I'm not growing seed from Monsanto anymore I don't have wind farms anymore mm-hmm I have a little church and I'm a pastor because the truth will set you free and amongst all of these things. Let it be our topics of conversation, right? And let it be interesting and let us help guide our next generation in being able to discern the truth, right? And to know the truth. But let's not let any of these things become our identity
Starting point is 00:24:38 because when that happens, all of a sudden, that we're blinded to certain facts. Being that I am apolitical now, which I could have never guessed that, that in five years that I would turn this corner, but it's been through people like yourself who weren't as scared to do the unpopular thing. And some of the stuff I've learned is integrity.
Starting point is 00:24:59 In our book, Free and Deed, that you're familiar with, talk about integrity. And integrity essentially is doing the right thing, book, Free Indeed, that you're familiar with. Talk about integrity and integrity essentially is doing the right thing even when there's nobody around. That's right. And I know that seems like an oversimplification, right? But what we have got is we have got principalities that are spiritual, right? Who are in people's heads. So I submit to you that do I think Doug Burgum and maybe even Bill Gay? I don't know. He does got that one eye. No, but you know, even people like that, you know, that aren't part lizard or whatever
Starting point is 00:25:34 Are they you know, are they just being governed? Right? Are they just like, you know, the the people standing at the foot of Jesus when he's being crucified and he says forgive them For they know not what they do. I've got to think the majority of even these people are in that boat and then I got to remember that geez God loves them just as much as he loves me and so it's the principalities and we must buy into that and so the biggest fear of the enemy is unity. So when we come into the apolitical center, I think we'll start electing better people, not just to the white house,
Starting point is 00:26:11 but to the state house, to the state Congress, right? And to the local school board, we'll begin to literally bring what is missing both in the churches and in our whole world. And that is accountability. Nobody has any cause everybody's a victim, right? And urgency. So you take some urgency and accountability and put it into a little elixir there and that's how we move and we know when we are believers we know that it's through Christ
Starting point is 00:26:39 and you know even on just the moral side of being in Christ. What a free way to live. You don't fear death, right? You tend to the people that are needy because as I talked about Sunday, if it's not, and if it's just about who I'm going to vote for and darn we lost or darn we won, well then heck yeah, party on. Yeah, that's right. But if we truly are eternal beings, we gotta think generationally in what legacy is it we're gonna leave,
Starting point is 00:27:05 and chopping up our ground, look into Kristi Noem and her involvement in a project 30-30. Are you familiar with that? No, no, what's that? Where the government, where non-individuals by 2030 should own 30% of the land.
Starting point is 00:27:21 Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah. That's part of it, yeah. That's the of it. Yeah, you'll own nothing and everything. And of course, they're getting a lot of people, especially in the rural areas, they're getting a lot of people signed up with a backdoor trap with that in terms of getting some tax abatements and things like that. And they're ready to just pull that plug and exercise those hidden rights. And that's, you know, there's a, that's always what they, that's why I tell people, you know, stay away from your homeschooling, stay away from any financial strings with these people,
Starting point is 00:27:50 because they will pull those strings. And listen, it's even so much deeper because, the, as you said, it's the root of all kinds of evil. So here's my father living 500 miles away because of health issues due to some probably monsanto related products that came out in the early 80s, had to quit farming and move here, and he just became a landlord. So all we did was rent an R grant, right?
Starting point is 00:28:12 So when the wind turbines came along, they're calling him, he's like, heck, I don't live up there to go for it. So they start going out there and they are going to chop up this 160 for two windmills and it's like they had no idea what they are doing right so dad got his car drove up there and walked around with this company that was out of Montana had no idea about Midwest farming and showed him that he needed to bring it in from one direction they need an access road all this stuff the guy tries to hire my dad because he said nobody knows anything about this and even even then though, even then they still
Starting point is 00:28:48 didn't click with me. But yet guess what was happening in Little Remington, Indiana? All those hotels that had sat there and almost starved, they were full of workers. The restaurants, they build a brand new giant pilot station there, you know, all of the, you could see the positive. So in order to, you really have to be secure in your eternal identity to look at those things for what they are. And that's why I'm, for my father that was innocent because cash rent, I'm gonna tell you, wasn't much. And so this so this check they were offering was about half again as much as what he was making per acre total to rent the farm. Right?
Starting point is 00:29:30 Yeah. Oh, that's crazy. Yeah. And of course, we're seeing in France and other places that the wildlife toll that these windmills are taking on birds, it's not bird flu that's coming in, it's windmills. You know what I said back then when I was the owner of those? What was that? God's calling the dumb birds. He's calling dumb birds. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:55 He can see it coming. Yeah. Go around it, you dumb bird. Not so much. Yeah. Especially the bats, you know, it's funny, the bats are especially susceptible to it because they breathe so rapidly that they go into these things. They can miss the blades because they're a little bit more agile, I guess.
Starting point is 00:30:13 But what gets them is that their lungs blow up. Same type of air embolism that you get as a scuba diver. You know, they breathe it in at a low pressure and then fill up their lungs and then immediately they pass it to a high pressure and then fill up their lungs and then immediately they pass it to high pressure and blows up their lungs. I'm a scuba diver. You can't come straight up. That's right.
Starting point is 00:30:31 You have to go a little bit at a time stop. That's right. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. So I guess we don't have any bats at scuba dive. They never figured that out. So, uh,
Starting point is 00:30:39 David, I want to thank you for talking about all this with me because, you know, this is part of what I feel God's called me to do with being ordained and becoming a pastor and all this is that I know about all this stuff and the world's coming at me just as hard as it's coming after everybody else, but I feel like we're going into education. My church is going to be a teaching church. We're going to have teaching things. We're envisioning a truth seminary where people can begin to not learn about American religion but to learn about who they are, about where this thing is going because truthfully it goes back to what I was talking about, about the accountability and the urgency. Well the church has got a couple of other things going on.
Starting point is 00:31:22 They've got terribly weak leadership and biblical illiteracy. So if we don't fix the illiteracy problem with who we are and help people understand that, then you're building on that foundation that we're warned about, right? It's going to be so unmercifully divided, and a lot of it is through debt. I'm going to tell you, as you see the new cars and you see the young family, you know, oh, we've got to buy a new car and, you know, have the � with the salesman and the congratulations poster out front and you're just going � You're going to get all the viewers.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. We do property rentals and the applications and the things that I used to just be terrified of a $250 car payment now. That's the late fee. Yeah. That don't make you get an $80 payment on time, you know? And we have to be really careful that the system doesn't set our values. When you're talking about
Starting point is 00:32:11 that, I'm thinking about families and how so many people are afraid to have children. And so now Trump's going to get people talking about it. Somebody asked him, said, yeah, it's a good idea. $5,000 credit or whatever. But There's other countries that are essentially paying people tax incentives and things like that to have a family. And yet that's really not going to get you out of that mindset. You know, the people that I've seen that are successful in this, they're doing it because they love their children and because that's their number one priority. And they find that once they get their priorities aligned, yeah yeah it's going to change their lifestyle somewhat, but they
Starting point is 00:32:47 can make it and a lot of times people can't see that. They look at it, well we got two incomes now, we can't go to a system where only one of us is working, that's just not going to work. No, you just adjust your priorities and you find that you're saving a lot of money and you're not paying so much taxes and so you know you can cut corners here and cut corners there and it really is a freeing thing. I've known people who didn't have a lot of money and were able to home school because they redefined those priorities but they trap us in this mindset that we need to load up on debt and we need to have this consumer thing and that the way to fulfillment is working for a big company and all the rest of the stuff. And that's the best scenario I can or the best analogy I have is this thing I've talked
Starting point is 00:33:30 about as a realtor. All these years is when I was young and I would drive through a fluent neighborhoods and see the big giant houses, you know, with the pool out back and the especially the putting green man, I used to think that guy had it made. And I remember the new commerce sitting there or whatever in the fine Cadillac or whatever and then I'd ride through these you know older homes and there'd be a eight nine year old vehicle sitting there with a moderate home but a very well-kept yard and you think oh maybe one day those poor people you know and
Starting point is 00:34:01 in my lifetime I think of it completely different. Yeah I look the Hummers and the pool and think oh my gosh those people are drowning in debt and I look at that guy that lived within his means I said that guy's got some cash he's got some resources for for rainy days right. When you think about it is it any wonder and we can go into this another time and I'd love to because I've done quite a bit of research on how our banking system ever came to play. You know, why is it that those aren't more of a charitable situation? You know, why do high vice presidents of bank friends of small banks said, you know, we're making $250,000 when they retired, you know? Why is that? Well, it's because when I was broke they charged me more because I didn't have any money
Starting point is 00:34:48 It's the worst thing that we've seen last round of Stag flation I think we had that's when they took away the usury laws anything. That's just terrific But before we run out of time tell people where they can find you find your book free indeed And other ways that they can get in contact with you. Free Indeed, my ministry partner, Doc Roberts, and myself, Jeff Weiss. You can find it on Amazon, of course. We've got lots of great things in the works. Our church is called St. Paul Worship Center, and StPaulWorshipCenter.com is going to have things. We have a lot more coming in the future, and so we'd just like you to stay in touch, and I know David will be in touch. And I just want everybody to understand that there is always a spiritual element to
Starting point is 00:35:27 everything that you're going through every day because you're in a cosmic war right even if you're not a participant well that means you're just not on one side of the other you're still in the war so as we recognize things coming our way and understand that person that we tend to look at with a little bit of think about it they're� Think about it. They�re under it too. Darrell Bock Yep. That�s right. That�s right. Amen. Dr. Craig That�s where we get the compassion for even the enemy.
Starting point is 00:35:51 Darrell Bock That�s right. That�s right. That�s why we pray for our leaders. Many times I�ll say from Fiddler on the Roof, �Is there a prayer for the czar?� Yeah. God bless him and keep him far away from us. But if we pray that they are going to be turned towards God, that would make a big difference in our lives as well. I see the kind of leadership that we have here as being a real judgment on this country at this point in time. And that's really what we need to be praying for. When we look at all these issues, we need to understand that it's God who is sovereign with that. Thank you so much, Jeff.

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