The David Knight Show - FEMA: Incompetent & Malicious

Episode Date: September 1, 2023

Tony Arterburn hosts and is joined by Charlie Robinson of MacroAgressions to discuss FEMA and how they could not do a worse job if they tried to.This begs the question, maybe we don't understand what their job really is?Find out more about the show and where you can watch it at TheDavidKnightShow.comIf you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-showOr you can send a donation throughMail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @[e-mail] App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Money is only what YOU hold: Go to DavidKnight.gold for great deals on physical gold/silverFor 10% off Gerald Celente's prescient Trends Journal, go to TrendsJournal.com and enter the code KNIGHTBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.

I'm bringing on the author of the octopus of global control the control demolition of the American Empire hypocrisy a host of macro aggressions one of the best podcasts out there one of the biggest podcast out there most most informative. If you're a thinking person, macro aggressions, pretty much anywhere podcasts are found. And so I texted Charlie yesterday. I said, I'm third hour, David Knight show. What do you say? He's like, absolutely. I'm there. Cause he's the, my friend, Billy Ray Valentine, our mutual friend, hardest working man in alternative media. And so I was looking through your podcast and I listened to this last one. It came out about a week ago. Episode number 362, the federal management emergency.

And I love the way you open up as the American public was mortified to hear that former President George W. Bush thought that FEMA head Michael Brown, remember Brownie? He's doing a heck of a job at handling Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans. But the truth is, his job might not have been what we thought it was. And that was a great opening to what you were talking about with FEMA. And that kind of goes back to the, you know, the 90s were full of this. Like, yeah, the X-Files and real. And there's a lot of great research that went on.

The FEMA really started under Carter. I wanted you to talk a little bit about just a deviation from a little bit of the headlines, but this does tie into what we're seeing now in Hawaii and other places. Anyway, welcome to the show, Charlie. Welcome to David Knight Show. I'd love to hear your thoughts on this. Thank you for having me. Before we get started, I am a Wolfpack member myself. I'll have you know that two weeks ago, I had so much silver that you'd been sent over the last year. I guess right when it started, I signed up. I was like, okay, I have to organize this. There's too much. I had it in a box and realized it needs to go into different boxes. And it's been such a benefit to me as somebody that doesn't really know the ins

and outs. So I know I need silver. I know I need gold. I know, but you were, you're able to send me the things that I don't even know that I need. And I appreciate that. So there, I just wanted to piggyback off of that because, because I do do appreciate i do really like when the little black box shows up with the with silver in it it's kind of cool so uh but back to fema boy i'll tell you if you if you if you look at fema and you and there's something inside you that goes are you guys supposed to help in emergencies or make it worse? If that's the thought you have, go with it. You're on the right track.

I have come to discover that FEMA is, boy, I'll tell you, they really can't do a worse job than they're doing. And it happens so frequently with such regularity and they get caught off guard all the time. They're always caught off guard by hurricanes. Just completely baffled that there's a hurricane hitting Florida. With Hurricane Andrew, they described themselves as being unprepared. They're unprepared for a hurricane in Florida?

I mean, it's not like I, and I said in the episode, I could understand if a hurricane in florida i mean it's not like i and i said in the episode i could understand if a hurricane hit seattle and you were unprepared i could totally understand that um but like there's a thing called hurricane season you don't even need i mean it's like half the year so like half the year you can send those people home and then go on vacation, do whatever. But, but during hurricane season, I don't know, have a plan for Florida, have a plan for new Orleans. Don't act so surprised when, when the hurricane comes up, you know, Michael Chertoff, that scumbag that used to run DHS, he waited 36 hours before he declared, hurricane an incident of national significance. Again, hurricane in Seattle, I get it.

Random earthquake that comes out of nowhere that isn't being caused by HAARP, let's just say. Just a natural one. I could get it. I could, you know, in a place where maybe you don't expect it. Obviously, if it's California, you've got fault lines. You know where these earthquakes are going to be. But they were unprepared for a hurricane in New Orleans. And if you know anything about the geography of New Orleans, it's right at the back of the Gulf of Mexico. I mean, it gets hit by hurricanes. This is not a surprise. It's not

breaking news. It's not something that's just started happening. This is the way. And on top of all that, we have satellite radar. You have four days advance notice to know that a hurricane's coming. I get it. There's different directions and they run those hurricane trackers and it shows there's like 18 different ways it can go. But still, when you've got a hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico that is more than likely going to hit New Orleans, I'm not accepting their excuse that they're quote overwhelmed during Katrina and

Hurricane Andrew in 92 as well. So, so, you know, the thing is that you, you watch this and you go, you know, Bush is famous Brownie. You're doing a heck of a job. Really? That made me question if Brownie's doing a heck of a job. Really? That made me question, if Brownie's doing a heck of a job, maybe we're unclear on what the job really is, Tony. No, it's a good question. I think Chertoff was more interested in scanning your body than scanning for hurricanes. For sure on that one. This is where we really have to dig deep as researchers because it seems like some of these agencies that we do know like for different documents like rex 84 and some of these other things like continuity of government they use these agencies to preserve

their power yeah so you know and and again protect protect the, all the rest. They can be both nefarious and completely incompetent. You have to wonder, is the incompetence on purpose? Is it meant to make us feel like there is? Again, I don't trust the government to come help me. Hurricane Katrina is a glaring example of that but have they ever done they seem to not ever be able to predict like you said hurricane this hurricane season you know where basically where the where the hurricanes i mean in a general vicinity or where they're going to hit and all the rest and the damage is usually going to happen you're going to have some warning but they they get it wrong and it's it's really um one of those one of those areas as researchers

where we look at something like fema we look at something like the continuity of government and how they use these agencies and use the power of an emergency to strip you of your liberties. I mean, look at what happened in New Orleans with gun confiscation. Yes. Right. Right. That was a real thing happening in real time because of these emergency edicts and so on. People comply with it coming down from the federal government. So there's that that went really well for them. Like they were able to do that, but they can't also get food and water and direct people to the proper shelter. So it's, it is a mixed bag, isn't it? Yeah, and it happens everywhere. I mean, what about the Puerto Rico hurricane as well,

where they had people that desperately needed water, and they had a warehouse filled with pallets of water, and they couldn't get the two together. They couldn't find it. At some point, you have to ask, is the incompetence a cover story for a nefarious component to this? You know what I mean? There is that old adage, never attribute to malice what can be attributed to incompetence.

But I've seen so much. These people are both, though. They're both incompetent and malicious. And so where is it where the Venn diagram of incompetence and maliciousness intersects in a place. And I'm curious, you know, like every time FEMA gets an opportunity to, to step up, they, they, they, they fail. And, and so I started to wonder about this. You know, I, I remember hearing Oliver North's name. I mean, I knew what he looked like, but I was 12 when he was going through, you know, I, I remember hearing Oliver North's name. I mean, I knew what he looked like, but I was 12 when he was going through, you know, when, when all these things were going on,

I would, but I remember that he was a big deal. And then as I got older and got more into this sort of, uh, I don't know these topics, I remember hearing about Rex 84 readiness exercise 84, meaning 1984. Um, and, and so you dig into this and it was a big, it was a big to do about Rex 84 when I was like, well, that, well, what is it exactly? And what it was was it was two parallel simulations that were running at the same time. One of them was, um, night train, which was a fake simulation or simulation of invading a Central American country. Oh, I don't know, like Nicaragua. And then the Rex 84 component was FEMA's response. public finds out about this deeply unpopular thing that the government is doing in Central America, the public's going to have a problem with it and rise up. And Rex 84 was their solution to the problem of people rising up and their, and, and the solution for it was concentration camps. You know, so when people start going, Oh, you guys with your, you've talked about FEMA camps and, and, and all this stuff,

get out of here with that. It's not, I'm not, it's not conspiracy theory. It's conspiracy analysis. This is what was going on. This was, this was coming up on 40 years ago and Oliver North was deeply involved in the guys that were part of this. Um, Louis DeFrito was running FEMA and another guy named John Brinkerhoff. These were the guys that created Rex 84 and they were trying to, uh, make the case and bring in people. They brought in a guy from the war college who had, um, who, who was, whose paper when he was in college was talking about rounding up people and putting them in camps but in his in his document in in his college document it was african-american people so it was

like really bad right and so you would think oh automatic disqualification no they brought this guy in and said run it run it for us. And so I I've gotten to the point where I say, okay, there is incompetence with FEMA. I get this, but what about Rex 84? You know, that's a nefarious plan. And so if that is going on in the background, then I have questions, Tony. I always have questions, but they're, they're, they're but I could have just said, Michael Brown is incompetent. He was the wrong guy for the job. And George W. Bush was complimenting him because he's also incompetent. And together, they probably thought they were doing a good job. I could maybe sort of get on board with that and just say it's incompetence. But the further I dig into FEMA,

the more I don't like what I see. And the fact that their control mechanism comes from the president and not Congress is a problem because you wind up finding that this becomes a weaponized bureau where they're always involved in something, you know, like when the emergencies come. And I think when you mentioned like the gun grabbing during Katrina, I think they got a little test run with that one where they could say, oh, this works really well in an emergency, but it's a hurricane. So we have kind of a limited time span on how long this emergency will last. At some point, it kind of, it's over, right? But what if it wasn't over? What if we could make the emergency last forever

and we could rule through emergency? And so then, and that's 2000, what's it? 2006 when Katrina happened, 2005. Yeah, you go, well, they put that on the back burner and realized it's easier to run this place under emergency decree. Then that way we can take the guns. Oh, well, we have an amendment. You can't.

Oh, no, no, no. It's an emergency, though. Oh, an emergency. Well, then here are my guns. Right. So you see this with COVID. You see the same mentality thinking like, well, geez, I mean, we could tell all these people what to do, but you know, they might not do it, but if we create an emergency, well, then they have to do what we want them to. And so it, it, it, it made me feel like, um,

less comfortable with this being just an incompetent government bureaucracy that's bogged down with red tape and no accountability. And it made me think that I think that ultimately, I think that is a cover for the nefarious actions that are going on. I mean, the two things can be happening simultaneously. You can be doing both, but there definitely is something going on behind the scenes that FEMA's involved with. Well, I think the most malevolent use the most incompetent, right? That's their figure. That's their puppets. Their favorite puppet is the, you know, George Bush, W. Bush tells Michael Brown, Brown, you're doing a heck of a job. I mean, I just kind of have an image of Satan, like saying the same thing to George W. Bush, doing a heck of a job, you know.

You're doing a heck of a job down there. They did a great job. Seven and a half minutes waiting for my pet goat to finish. That's why America's under attack. Yeah. No, you're, you're right. And, and that's, that's really the, you know, on the surface level, it looks like, wow, they're so incompetent.

Like you look at TSA, it's like, have you stopped a hijacker? Have you, you know, have you done anything besides grope grandma and uh slow down everything and make traveling just unbearable maybe done anything uh the answer is no but they continue to harness more and more power more and more surveillance more and more data is grabbed through that so yeah on the surface though we got this incompetent thing that really isn't again the invisible enemy charlie and you and i are going to be speaking uh next weekend uh in in new york city on this great panel that uh i mean that's just an honor to be a part of for a free world nyc and we're going to be talking about this i mean again invisible enemies we

can't stop it oh you know norad stands down because you can always get, you know, people that live in caves, get NORAD to stand down all the time. I don't know if you knew that, Charlie, but yeah, a complete hijacking of our defense systems, all that. You know, the order still stands from Dick Cheney. Hijackers can do that, too, from the Middle East or from caves in Afghanistan. So, yeah yeah the invisible enemy and we can't help anything and we're just this pitiful giant but also the flip side of that was the patriot act yeah right so we it wore forever uh seven countries in five years they didn't quite make it but they kind of did uh it wasn't exactly what wesley clark was told but it came pretty close uh all of it was criminal and dangerous and murderous and has stripped us of what was left of the tattered Constitution.

So, yes, you get you get both of these things. You get incompetence. No one was fired for 9-11, which should be a tell. Right. Like someone should have lost some employment somewhere. No one did, because if you open up that can of worms and you have to do an investigation, and then you just get the 9-11 report that originally the Bush administration wanted to offer up $3 million in funding. The 9-11 families were outraged. They made it $13 million. And I'd have to point out to the audience that the inauguration of George W. Bush, the second one, cost 30 million. So that's how much they care about real information.

And by the way, Building 7 is not in the 9-11 report. And I'm sure we'll be talking about Building 7 coming up here at Free World NYC and go to eventbrite.com. Come meet Charlie. I mean, I'll be there, but you get to meet Charlie Robinson. I got to meet Charlie. I was at at the American Liberty Awards, and I'm going, I can't believe I'm talking to Charlie Robinson. You know, we're having an after-show conversation. With Brad from Five Times August. Yes. This is how we talk in private as well. We do the show, basically.

I know. You're so right, and that's why I thought this was a great episode. People should go check out your podcast, Macro Aggressions. There's tons of this stuff. There's a part in this Rex 84 where they talk about that they want to test military assistance in civil defense. And I go, martial law? Military assistance in civil defense. And I go, martial law, military assistance in civil defense. We're talking martial law. So they want to role play these things in advance. And so, um, you know, listen, I, I'm, I'm, I'm with, and then the night you mentioned the nine 11 commission report or

nine 11 omission report. You remember who they wanted to put to run that thing at first, right? For lasted for about two weeks, old Heinrich, old Heinz Kissinger was going to be in charge of that. And then the, the mom, the, the wives just said, you got to get out of here with that guy. Like, we're not listening to this is crazy that you, that you think. Um, but that's how little they think of you of ever of all of us that, that we'll That we'll just, oh, you want answers for 9-11? We're going to put, okay, we got a guy that he's going to get right to the bottom of it. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome Henry Kissinger. He's going to get out of here.

It's like a Warren Commission. Here's Alan Dulles. Yeah, we're going to tell you how it all happened here. Great. Yeah, but this is what you do when you're being run by criminals, you know, that, that, that don't, that don't, um, you know, I think that, that over the last couple of years, people have started to the, the, we all, all kind of understood this, but like the normie crowd that's starting to come to this realization that the government that they live under not only doesn't love them, but in fact, actually despises them. And, and they, and they, they're

so resentful of us. They think that this governing business would go so much better if it wasn't for all these stupid people that they had to deal with. Right. You know, they just, they just feel like you get this feeling that, that they feel that we're taking up too much space on their planet. Like the roles have been reversed. This used to be that we're taking up too much space on their planet. Like the roles have been reversed. This used to be that we're the people and we'll put this little government together to kind of help represent us, the people, but that's gone. I mean, the government doesn't represent the people at all these days. In fact, the government thinks that the people work for them, you know? And so the, the, the,

the roles have been reversed and what's, and that's obviously terrifying and horrific, but what's the, I think maybe the most devious component of this is that they've gotten the general public to agree to it. And, and, and now that, now that we're subjugated under the, you know, under the boot of the government, there's a lot of people that say, stomp on me harder, daddy. They want to be told what to do by the government. And there's a sort of a lack of, take all the burden off of me. I don't want any responsibility. Just tell me what to do and I'll do it. Thinking's hard. I don't know what I want. You tell me television. You tell me Joe Biden. You tell me what I need to do medically to take care of my body.

I, when you outsource your thinking to the government, you really can't, you can't complain. You can't act surprised when you, when you get poor results, because that's what they're, that's, that's what they think of you. So the relationship between the government and the people has all, you know, has been bad for a while, but I think lately a lot of people that maybe were asleep at the wheel have come, you know, have come to realize this. So if we're going to take anything good out of what we've gone through with the, with the, the, the latest version of the invisible enemy, You know, one day it was terrorism and then it's COVID. Now we know we're moving into carbon, another invisible enemy that's just around the corner.

Tony's going to kill you unless you pay more taxes for it. I think a lot of people are like, this all seems very fake and disjointed. So I kind of, you know, the good thing about having incompetent people in positions of power is that over time, eventually it becomes obvious to everybody that these people are incompetent. So, uh, or maybe not the, the incompetent people don't realize that the other people are incompetent. That's Dunning Kruger. I don't know. Um, but this, this is kind of, this is kind of... This is kind of...

The stupid people are too stupid to realize that they're stupid. That sort of thing. But it's been... You know, look, I wish we didn't have to go to New York next week. I wish we didn't have to have these conversations. But...

And there's nothing we can do to reverse what happened with nine 11, except to make sure that we don't ever allow something like that to happen again. And, and unfortunately, I think a lot of people don't really understand that, you know, 22 years, almost 20. And, and, and, and I, and there's a segment of the population that still think 19 Arab hijackers with box cutters did it, you know? I mean, it's like, and they call us conspiracy theorists. That's the biggest conspiracy theory I've ever heard. Oh, really? 19. I mean, if, if, if the, if the official story of nine 11

was that planes got struck by lightning and everybody accepted that, and then I came out with a theory that 19 Arab hijackers with box cutters did it, it flew wildly off course with nobody bothering them, they would fit me for a straight jacket immediately and a tinfoil hat. But because it was the first story that people heard and it was the official story, people bought it, even though it's disconnected from reality. So if we're going to have these events, like we're going to talk about 9-11, since we can't change the past, what we can do is we can get people to look at things differently in the future so that they recognize this when they see it. Or they recognize the building blocks of where we're going before you see, you know, I think a lot of people did this with Ukraine, with this

Ukraine war. They're like, this feels like, you know, you can almost feel like the false flag. You can sort of sense it. And like people that don't do this for a living, we're like, oh, there's false flags. Like, you know about false flags. Now I'm talking to my normie friends, like, you know about like, this feels like a false flag. I'm like, okay, you know, like, let's go. Like, so there's a group of people waking up. And if you're aware to this, you know, I feel like you can never be unaware of it afterwards. Once the light goes on, you see it whether you want to or not. Yeah. Once you expand, once your mind expands, it can't contract back to where you were when you believed this kind of stuff. And I mean, we're all guilty of buying into some sort of mainstream narrative at some point. I mean, I've gotten better at over the years. I arrived here like you did. I mean,

if you read history, because past is prologue, if you read history, then, and especially if you dive a little deeper, ask a few more questions, what you find is it's not what you were taught the narrative starts to break down it's one of the most important things that we do and you do on this on your show and david does here on david knight show just get people to think a second time just think one more time do it again you know thought experiment like 9-11 you know you have three buildings collapse into their own footprint in two planes. Not that a plane will make it do that anyway. You know, I was talking about on my show the other day, I was like, you know, there was, was it a B-29 or B-27 bomber that flew into the side of the Empire State Building in the 1940s? Didn't collapse, you know, did not burn down and just,

you know, it was a fire. And that's a big plane uh and i think the the world trade centers were were built to withstand uh 737. um and again that what that what does that mean just withstand it means like it stays intact and it's not you know david tells the story all the time because when he heard about uh 9 11 he only had radio so he thought they were like collapsing and falling over because as an engineer you would think okay well maybe it got so bad like there was so much structural damage that it started to clap but you would never think that this this perfect symmetrical collapse into its own that's impossible it's impossible and um you just have you finally have to arrive at that this you know and people people are waking up um you know you go back you talk

about an emergency uh trump's executive order uh friday the 13th march 2020 that went way past a thousand days remember it was two weeks to flatten the curve and that survived into way into joe biden's presidency so yeah they do use emergencies and the question is is you know there's the over because i think if we ran a thought experiment and asked, you know, in 2020, if Hillary Clinton was president, would we have locked down? Would the states and all these petty potentates, would they have followed? I don't think so. I don't think it would have gone that way. It's the trust the plan, trust the man, we're okay, 4D chess. It reminds me, we get to do the coolest things, folks. I was on air live with Don Jeffries and G. Edward Griffin.

And I got to tell G. Edward Griffin that I read The Creature from Jekyll Island, and he was one of the people that inspired me to go into the gold and silver business. I'm telling this to G. Everett Griffin, right? And we asked him, like, what's one thing you'd really like to impart? So this is coming from a, you know, he's in his 90s, and a wise, wise man, been around a long time, seen a lot, and I think one of the most genuine

human beings on the planet. And he says, beware of controlled opposition. It's the number one enemy. You know what that means? I mean, beware of someone who seems to be on your side, but is actually playing for the other side. And because that's where we get into trouble, Charlie. All these emergencies and all the things that can be used,

we as thinking people and those of us especially you know those who value voters and christians and people that love the constitution libertarian whatever if you don't like the if you don't like the thing you know the thing right with with joe biden if you don't like that um you're you're subject to this and we have to be very careful we don't have many heroes. I mean, anybody that's going to get elevated to where a mass of people knows about, very few of those folks are going to be actually on your side. So I think in the danger, in the emergencies

and all the things that roll out, we have to be careful of, I think just hidden in that is the chance that we will fall prey to that as well, where somebody's be careful of. I think just hidden in that is the chance that we will fall prey to that as well, where somebody's on my side and they're really not. It's true. And poor Ed, I had a layover in Mexico City, going to Anarcopoco with him, and I didn't know him. And it was I was, it was 2019. I was on my way there. He was going to be speaking. I was going to be speaking. And I said, I said to him, Hey, I'm, uh, he's just kind of sitting there waiting for us for our flight talk from Mexico

city to Acapulco. We had like an hour, poor guy. I talked his ear off. I mean, it's not so bad, but I had a million questions. I said, Hey, I'm going to go, I'm going to be seeing you speak tomorrow. He goes, he looks at me and he goes, sorry to hear that. He's a fun guy. And we talked about quite a bit of a kind of, when you've got the guy that wrote The Creature from Jekyll Island sitting next to you and he can't go anywhere. I mean, I was respectful, of course, but I had questions. And so we talked about a lot of stuff. And I and I when when he when he he says to be careful of controlled opposition. Boy, I mean, we're getting into another election cycle.

She didn't notice coming. And and you want to talk about controlled opposition. I mean, you go, well, this guy's saying what I want to hear. He's saying the things he's doing that, you know, he's doing all that. And you go, but, but, you know, I've heard these things before. You guys have told us this stuff before. I know. Or, or it's a, it's a, it's a new flavor. And you go, I like this new flavor. I've never seen this new flavor. Ramaswamy flavor. This is interesting. Tell me more about more about it and you go and then you go well he was a world economic forum young global leader and you go well that's an automatic disqualification well you got it he got a letter saying from them saying that he's not and i go really claude schwab made that wrote that letter for him that's that to me sounds like what you would do

if you were like i'm not in the club, wink, wink, here's my letter. You know what I mean? Like, so unfortunately for me, I don't trust any of them. I just, my default mechanism is I don't trust anything you guys say you're going to need to show me. And, and, and Trump did that for his four years. He came in and, you know, look, there's, I can compartmentalize my feelings on Trump because I wasn't like, you know, a lot of people became emotionally handicapped around Trump. Like they lost their minds. He broke their brains.

They either loved him so much in an unhealthy way, or they hated him so much in an unhealthy way. I was kind of in the middle. I never really cared. I don't like that personality type to begin with, but politics wise, I was observant. I was just watching him. And I, I got, I got a really bad feeling when the Q movement started because I, I spotted that in Kev Baker. And I used to have these great conversations about it because he, he spotted it right away too. And it, we, it felt away too. It felt like when they said, you can almost see it coming.

You can almost connect the dots in your head. All you people, you know that the other side is really bad and they're doing all this nefarious stuff. We're going to educate you about it. But then what we want you to do is do nothing. We want you to go stand in the corner and trust the plan and wait. Patriots are at work. It's all happening behind the scenes.

People are being taken to Guantanamo, but we're not going to activate you yet. So we need you to know this, but we need you to stand down and we need you to just trust that things are happening behind the scenes. You're like, okay, fine. I'm going to wait. I'm going to wait. I'm going to wait. I'm going to wait.

I'm going to wait. And then here comes Biden. And you go, okay, fine. I'm going to wait. I'm going to wait. I'm going to wait. I'm going to wait. I'm going to wait. And then here comes Biden. And you go, well, where was the plan? And you go, oh, you've been had. The plan was for you. Oh, trust the plan. I forgot to tell you what the plan was. The plan was to make you, to neuter you guys so that you did nothing. So that you stood around waiting instead of actually getting involved. And so when you see that and you go, well, that's despicable, right? That's a crappy way to treat people that are genuinely enthusiastic about trying to get a better form of government. And so here we come, round two here we come round two of Trump and, you know, he's saying all

the things, you know, this time around, I'm going to lock her up. And, and, and, and Glenn Beck was talking to him like, I don't know, yesterday, two days ago. And he said, you know, you said in 2016, you were going to lock her up and you didn't. And now given what you, what you see, how do you feel about locking people up? And he says, well, this time around, I would definitely lock people up. And it's like, okay, well, again, sounds good. Trump porn, right? You get this fantasy of Hillary Clinton getting perp walked in handcuffs. Oh, I mean, amazing. Right. But it's not like you didn't know who Hillary Clinton was in 2016 or 2017 or 2019.

You could have done all these things back then. You know, it just, it feels, it feels like rope dope again. It feels like, it feels like you're getting, people are getting suckered in again. And so I, um, I will tell you though, I mean, you talk about like controlled opposition, be careful for these guys, these guys that come out of nowhere and are all of a sudden in the media establishment is platforming them. They don't want to platform Trump, really, because of his power. But I see Vivek Ramaswamy everywhere, right? I see him everywhere. They must want him to be the guy. I see Ron DeSantis everywhere.

They must want him to be the guy. I don't like any of them. I don't trust any of them. And so I don't know where we're going to be in an interesting time, though. I think ultimately, if the establishment has their way they're going to get that soulless psychopath in san francisco gavin newsom and put him in because he he looks like a guy that might finally push down the plunger on this controlled demolition well i think you're i mean he's testing the waters too and i don't know if

he's still angling at desantis because i think he was seeing that maybe desantis would be his his opposition in the the general election or something i don't know if the desantis campaign is going to last i mean now we do these campaigns and they're they're just farther and farther and farther out it's like people don't realize politics i mean a year in politics is an eternity. I mean, you're talking about so much can happen that the amount of money you have to raise now, and it's all ridiculous, you know, and again, you talk, I don't know if you heard the second hour, but Don Jeffries was saying that he was reading a report that back in the 90s, one of the people in Al Sharpton's

TV audience was a young Ramaswamy, the other one was pete buttechich yeah what are the chances of that like that's when you we're being fed people that's why they call it a news feed right we're being fed people being fed these characters and again put nobody did that for ron paul i mean ron pa Paul had like, you know, they had hot air balloons and blimps and overhead passes. And people like just, you know, remember the Ron Paul revolution? It was all grassroots. They dominate. They come.

They have all these people at these straw polls and then somehow lose. Like that's the only, you know, again, the game is rigged. And they would, you know, all the polls would come out, and Ron Paul would win, and the media would go, well, and you have Mitt Romney. They would start at Mitt Romney, or they'd start at McCain. And I thought, wow, this is over the top. Tony, one time there was, I saw this on,

oh, God, it must have been, was it MSNBC? It had to have been MSNBC. It was like, I don't know mitt romney number one i forget who it new king reach number two and then some other guy number four and it's like where's number three number three was ron paul but it was like they were like one two and four and i was like you've got to be kidding me, it's so obvious that they hate anybody that, that, that poses a threat to the establishment. So, so again, you just have to, you have, if you know that, if you know how they, how these guys operate, then you know that if there's a candidate that that's being allowed to be presented and in getting a ton of, of support, that should just make you give it a second look. That's all. We're just asking people to be critical thinkers. We're asking, like you said, take a second pass through this information. What do you think? Why do you think they're

allowing this guy to have the platform that he has? And part of that is, I think, because he's not a threat to the establishment. If he was a threat to the establishment, he'd get the Ron Paul treatment. He'd get the, you know, he, he, he, that's what they do. They'd put out polls and forget to put the number three guy in there. It's crazy. Well, you know, with, with 20 minutes left, and I might have to take a little bit of time at the end while

you're uh plugging to figure out how to play the outro music travis sent me that i'm about to download it in real time so you guys have to bear with me we won't we won't lose any of the audio but i want to see if i can actually do i'm producing myself with a laptop and i don't have my usual if you see my books aren't behind me charlie so i saw that doesn't mean it doesn't mean i haven't read books or that I don't have books with me. I thought you finished them all. I'm like Thomas Jefferson. He sold them to the Library of Congress for $24,000, I think, at one point.

He was broke. I don't know if you knew that. I wanted to ask you, with a little bit of time left, all this stuff. You cover so much material in macroaggressions you've written about this. I mean, your book, the octopus of global control is really like your entrance onto the stage in alternative media. It's, it's a very well-written book. I reference it all the time. I carry it on my Kindle too.

I've got it in paperback, but I'll, but just going through subject matter, just refreshing what we do because there's so much good work in there. Thank you. Would you say that there's a blueprint in your mind? I mean, we all talk about the problems. We talk about what's wrong. We talk about what's facing us, what could go wrong, what has gone wrong, the origin story. This is what we do. But have you thought about a blueprint for how do we turn it around? How is it? What can you save? Obviously, you don't want to conserve something that is.

I mean, you wouldn't want to conserve our politics now, but how do you create something new? Have you thought where would you start if you were going to tell people this is where we go to turn things around? Well, it's funny you say that because I had Dr. Shiva on a couple of weeks ago. You talk about a guy that he's just had it with everybody. And he's a systems engineer. And I started off with this question, United States government is a gigantic system. You're a systems engineer. What do we do? We have two choices. Do we fix the current system or do we build a brand new system? And his response was, it's tempting to want to build a brand new system. But when you look at a system and you used Amazon as an example of how the network works, the supply chain, the distribution hubs, the warehouses, all that millions and millions of man hours went into

conceptualizing that, ultimately building it out and building the infrastructure for Amazon to be what it is. And he used that as an example and he said, you want to build a parallel system to this government, good luck. We need it, but good luck because it requires massive amounts of time, effort, and money that we don't have. He said, so instead of that, he says he is a believer that the system can be fixed. So you look for weak points. You look for areas where you can get a foothold in there. The currency is definitely one of them. I believe that if we're talking about changing things, things are going to change when the dollar loses its reserve currency. Now, Berwick and I described this at the tail end of controlled demolition. We made this comparison to December 26, 2004, Banda Aceh, Indonesia,

how the people woke up that morning and went out to the beach and there was no water. Gone, right? The tourists said, this is crazy. They went out and took selfies and found a starfish because there's no water anymore. And it was wild. They didn't know what to make of it. But the people that had experience and instinctively, the animals as well, went to higher ground. They knew what that meant.

They knew when they saw that go out and they knew it was going to come back in tenfold. We're at a point right now, Tony, where I feel like if we're on that beach, if you're waiting for the news to tell you, time to get off the beach, it's too late. You need to recognize and trust your instincts and know you see what you see. Grab the people closest to you. Say, we got to go get yourself to higher grounds. And, and however you do, however that means now that might take on a variety of forms, but I think we, you know, getting yourself out of the banking system would be a great way to do it. Obviously. I know I'm talking to a gold and silver guy.

I don't need to tell you that. But just, I'm not even saying invest in gold and silver necessarily. I'm saying just transform the physical nature of your soon-to-be-worthless Federal Reserve notes. Just change form. Change them into something else. Change them into gold. Change them into silver. Even if they do nothing for you, even if they don't go up in value, just, just flip them while you can get yourself, get yourself something that is outside of the system.

It doesn't have a counterparty risk to it. It doesn't have, you know, you're not, I'm not saying go buy GLD on the stock exchange. Don't do that. I'm saying buy yourself some physical metals and get yourself as self-sufficient as you can. That might mean get yourself educated. Download the books that you can download while you can. Anything that's going to help you. Books that are about how to grow your own food. I had no interest in ever being a farmer. Zero interest. But I'll tell you, I watched my grandparents in Tennessee when I was growing up. I would go stay at their place, and they had a little garden there. And they generated more food from that than they could ever eat. And they gave it out to all the people. And it wasn't, it might've been 20 yards by five yards. I mean, it was not,

not big. And that was enough to, so I, I remember that and they were always canning and I think that's a different era. So be proactive, not reactive. The people that are watching the mainstream media, they're going to be reactive and they're going to be far behind you. So we've got an opportunity here. We've got an opportunity to, to, you know, when the reshuffling of society comes with, uh, you know, a breakdown of, of the money system and, and, and, you know, potentially lawlessness, you don't want to be the last guy figuring it out. And if you're waiting for the, for, to get your info, you're waiting for the news to tell you what to do. First of all, they don't, they don't, they hate you. Smith modernization act of 2012 legalized line for them on you. So that's not a good source, but I think that we've been conditioned, unfortunately, to sort of wait to be told what to do, to trust the plan, to just sit here and wait.

Tell me when to, when to act. Tell me when to activate. Tell me when the time to activate is now it was yesterday. So, so trust yourself, get out in front of this early, get yourself financially, you know, out of the system is to the extent that you can understand that as a, somebody holding a bank account in the United States of America, you are an unsecured creditor. That money is when you put your money into your bank account, it becomes the property of the bank and the bank. If the bank needs to take it, they can take it bail in. If, if, if the bank collapses and they need to make people whole

bond holders are in front of you. So you're, you're an unsecured creditor in third position. Not a good place to be. Start, understand that. Start making moves in advance. You don't have to make a big deal about it. You don't have to tell everybody about it, but just start thinking, look, the preppers were right, Tony.

I mean, we kind of goofed on them a little bit and said, oh, you guys are kind of weird with your prepper ideas. The preppers were right, Tony. I mean, we kind of goofed on them a little bit and said, Oh, you guys are kind of, kind of weird where you're with your prepper ideas. The preppers were right. They were, they were talking about this early. They were saying, you've got to get yourself as, as detached from the system as you can be as self-sufficient as, as possible. And, and, um, talk to the people close to you, the people that will listen to people that haven't, you know, turned you off because they think that you're, you know, you were talking about some COVID things and they thought that you're insane. Talk to the people that will listen to you. Prior where more of those things start to come your way. You'll interact with people that feel the same as you.

You'll go to a farmer's market. You'll meet a guy not too far away from you that sells beef directly. That's a good guy to know. You know that guy. Have a plan. As Terrence McKenna says, if you don't have a plan, you become part of somebody else's plan. So we're at a point now where, and we just talked about trusting the plan, right? Bad idea. Don't do that. Trust in yourself. Trust in your own plan.

If you do that and you do the things that you know you need to do in advance of it, we're all going to feel the effects of the tsunami, but you'd rather be at high ground, man. And you feel bad for the people that didn't figure it out and you wish you could save them. And I want to save everybody, but that's unrealistic when a bunch of people are pretending to... You mentioned the octopus book. book. One, you know, I've got 700 quotes from 500 different people in that book, but there's a, there's a quote in there that I always, I always liked. It was a Navajo proverb. You cannot wake somebody that is pretending to be asleep. That's where we are. We've got a bunch of people pretending to be asleep.

So it was dangerous times that the times. The tsunami analogy is brilliant. And I'll never forget, that was my birthday. It's the day I turned 25 years old, December 26, 2004. So I know that event well. And you're right, a lot of people just didn't see. You know, I want to say it was our buckminster fuller said that people cannot get out of the way of what they don't see coming so that's why what we do is important it's near and dear

to my heart because i think all right i studied history i've lived through a lot of history um i have no other agenda here other than let's let's find out what the absolute truth is because i want it to guide me as well i mean uh you know we we lose money and revenue and listeners when we don't grab on the easy stuff that would be i mean truly phoning it in uh for either politics or picking a particular uh ideology or person uh i know charlie I mean, this group of people that we're in, I know there's no grifters. So we tend to stick to what we can prove. And I think that's so apt. I mean, the thing about people not being able to see what's happening. And that's why I started the show off this morning. And I mentioned Triffin's dilemma, Robert Triffin, the economist back in the 60s of what happens when you lose the world's reserve currency status what happens repatriate trillions or quadrillions or whatever it is uh those currency units crash i mean we just we've never experienced that i mean

we've had a depression we've had world wars but we've never just lost uh the world's reserve currency status because we've only had it since 1944. You know, before that, it was the British. The British had an empire in which the sun would never set. And then they later became what Gore Vidal called an aircraft carrier for the United States. I mean, that's what they were. That's what the that's what Great Britain was. So it's it's I think so much monumental change is coming. But you're right about really just sourcing if

you want to change the world you start with yourself and you kind of start with your local community and your in your family how you're prepared to weather those storms um yeah obviously i'm in the gold silver business so i plug that but i mean even if you're not doing any business with me you understand that gold and silver are money. And there's a reason why the Federal Reserve Bank doesn't buy gold. Okay? Every other bank, every other central bank in the world is. Many of them are hand over fist buying, like China and Turkey and Russia.

I mean, just massive buyers of gold. There's a reason why the United States does not because our system is at war with value. So you need to embrace value, whether that's land or a business or something, because the game is rigged against you. Robert Kiyosaki famously says that savers are losers. This doesn't mean it is an insult,

but you put a dollar in a bank account that's silly it just is you need to have something that is outside without third uh counterparty risk um that you hold in your hand and you know i've talked about i'm still a fan of cryptocurrency in a lot of ways i i again it's be cautious uh I right now I'm just a Bitcoin maximalist at this point I I buy a little bit Bitcoin every day um as a savings I mean just to hedge against what's happening I um and I think that that could be something that's going to be on the horizon is a good thing I'm again not telling people to go buy anything I'm not making any recommendations tell you what I do and then that's I'm betting against the system at the end of the day what I do. And then that's, I'm betting against the system.

At the end of the day, what I do when I wake up in the morning is I bet against this system. So I've been doing it for years. It's been very kind to me because of wonderful people like in your audience and David's audience, my own audience and people that trust me and trust my company. And I've, I'm able to pay my bills because of it thank god i'm very i'm very humbled um but bet against this system you know that's step number one it's like you know you're basically channeling george carlin it's like rule number one i never believe anything the government tells me i guess that's i quoted that this morning so it's interesting we're on

the same wavelength but no you're you're just absolutely right we're in unprecedented times uh shows like this shows like yours so very important what the work that you're doing um just hearts and minds you know to steal something from the leaders of vietnam uh but yeah that's there's something to that we're in a psychological spiritual war and the you know changing hearts changing the way people see things is I think the most important job in the world right now especially with all the censorship and and the amount of lies so anyway I want to give you some final thoughts Charlie people tell people where they can find you we got about I mean you but we can go right up to the three hour mark, but I'm going to go look for the way to download the outro.

Well, I'll start by saying focus on the people that are close to you, the people that will listen to you, prioritize your energy and your efforts in this part at this time, because we're running out of time. I appreciate you having me, you know, you are, you've, you've been on macroaggressions plenty of times. I've described you as the most interesting man in the world and not way more interesting than the Dos Equis guy. I will say based on your background, great to meet you in person a couple of weeks ago. We'll see you next week. But for those that are interested, Macroaggressions goes out twice a week as an

audio podcast. Wherever podcasts are served on Sundays, they go out as a video or they go out as an interview. And on Wednesdays, they go out as a monologue. This Sunday, David Icke is coming on. We talk about climate terrorism and we talk about simulation theory. He's got a new book called The Dream. So we talked about that. We talked about DMT. We talked about, it was the best conversation I've ever had with David Icke. It was so good that when we got done, his people were like, can we get a copy of that? And I knew about halfway through, oh, this is a banger, man. People are going to love this one. So, so macroaggressions and audio format anywhere in video format, Rockfin's a good place for

it. You can find, you can find me, my website, the octopus of global control.com, where you can find out about information about the books that I've written and on Twitter at macroaggressions on Instagram at macroaggressions on Instagram at macroaggressions podcast. So we're doing what we can spreading the word through the established media channels. But, you know, we get no love. We have no thrown off of YouTube as everybody has been. There's there's no point.

So I guess I took it as a sign. Must be doing something right if YouTube came for me. Um, but, uh, I appreciate, look, I appreciate the support of the, of the, of the viewers and the listeners, because like you said, if you, if you, if your interest is in finding the truth, then you're not going to be on the red team or the blue team. And that really eliminates a sizable portion of your audience. So I don't need to be the biggest show in the world. I just want to have great information and great guests. And so I appreciate you giving me the opportunity to come back on and talk to the audience. Because I think this audience, you know, this audience understands what's going on.

Uh, but, uh, but this audience also has a responsibility and that is to talk to the people close to them to the extent that they can don't beat, don't come off as crazy, ease into it, but, uh, identify the people that you can talk to, let them know what's going on and, and, and tell them to be proactive. It's the only way to go. Well, so appreciate you being here. Magnificent third hour, as always. You're a go-to. I know that you'll show up and you're going to bring magnificent information. So appreciate you, Charlie. The Octopus of GlobalControl.com. Ladies and gentlemen, the podcast is Macroaggressions. Look for Charlie. Go see Charlie in New York next weekend at FreeWorldNYC. Go to Eventbrite.com to get tickets.

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