The David Knight Show - Fri Episode #1,952: "Dictated Peace", Transhumanist gods, and J6 Legal Battles to Come

Episode Date: February 14, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 In a world of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. It's The David Knight Show. As the clock strikes 13, it's Friday, the 14th of February, year of our Lord 2025. Well, today we're going to take a look at peace. Is there going to be peace? The EU is pushing back already, going to send weapons as well as a war of words. We're not going to have peace dictated to us, said the German leader. We'll see about that.
Starting point is 00:01:06 Meanwhile, meanwhile, going back to World War II, we had the biggest tax increase ever up to that point in time in 1942. The White House is bragging that now across-the-board tariffs against all countries are going to bring in a trillion dollars. And as Reason Magazine points out, that would be the biggest tax increase ever. Bigger than World War II. And as we have RFK Jr. winning the confirmation for HHS, we'll take a look at what is happening at CDC. They're no longer pushing people towards abortions, but towards adoptions. Well, that's good. But I wonder how many people were aborted with the shot.
Starting point is 00:01:48 And what is going to change about that? We'll take a look at it. You know, personnel is not just policy, it's predictive. I want to take a look at who has now been put in charge of the Trump pandemic department. We'll be right back well we have a lot of pushback after what was said by trump the meeting with putin as well as what pete hegseth had to say and pete hegseth had to walk some of this stuff back and the question is did he just make this stuff up did he say something he wasn't supposed to say in terms of bargaining positions or has the european union pushed back as that
Starting point is 00:02:33 pushed trump back away from what he was saying he was going to do well he is pushing zielinski towards an election bloomberg says towards a risky election. Oh, we don't want to have Zelensky get out, right? This is a guy who shut down the elections, you know, for democracy, of course. We're fighting a war for democracy, so you have to shut down the elections. Did we shut down the elections during World War II? I can't remember. No, actually, we didn't. But anyway, Bloomberg says Zelensky knows a thing or two about wearing different guises. He used to be a comedian, they said. And now he goes around wearing this combat camo, you know, the lousy T-shirts, because he can't get better ones from me.
Starting point is 00:03:19 So he's now wearing military fatigues everywhere. But they said, but there is no disguising the sense of betrayal reverberating in Ukraine as the president put on a brave face to let the world know about his latest dispiriting call with Donald Trump. So they, again, by talking about how this guy is an actor wearing disguises as if we didn't already know. Trump spoke for 90 minutes with Putin, and for all intents and purposes, Bloomberg says, sold Ukraine out. Well, I think we bought them, didn't we? Obama and Biden bought them, and Trump was sending aid to them as well. Anyway, extinguishing any hope for nato
Starting point is 00:04:05 membership or american boots on the ground russia would probably keep most of its territory that it snatched over the years and all zelinski could do or say about trump was to quote appreciate his genuine interest yes i'm so glad that he said that so i'm so happy he's interested in us uh well you know it was jd vance who famously said um uh last year during the campaign he says i don't care about ukraine one way or the other so um and quite frankly the only thing i care about ukraine is i would like to see the ukrainians stop being killed they already had one of the fastest collapsing demographics population before all this stuff happened. And that's a big question about what is going to happen afterwards. Because the globalists are just itching to bring people from India, from Africa, from anywhere.
Starting point is 00:04:58 You know, Afghanistan. Bring them into Ukraine. Because, you know, they just don't have enough Ukrainians anymore. And they're still killing more and more of them. It didn't take long for Ukrainians to air their suspicion on social media that a deal had been done behind their backs. I think deals have been done behind their backs since 2014, actually. Gone was even the pretense that Ukraine had a seat at the table. Look, he was always just a puppet.
Starting point is 00:05:30 This was always a proxy war. For Europe, the U.S., I should say the Democrats, but of course, you know, the war started after Trump was in office. But the coups and all the rest of this stuff happened and we're not undone. He kind of is simmering while he was there, but he's always been a puppet for the interests of NATO, the European Union, and the Democrat party. His first term, he urged Zelensky to investigate claims against Joe Biden in return for military aid. And that was, remember, that was when it had come out that his vice president, Biden, had ordered and demanded that an inspector general that was looking at some of the corrupt deals
Starting point is 00:06:21 that the Biden family, the Biden crime family had in Ukraine, he went over there and he openly demanded, it was caught on video, fire this guy. And everybody said, wow, that's massive corruption. And Trump calls him up and says, I want you to investigate this. Well, Zelensky didn't investigate it. And now we have a situation where Musk is in charge here. And we've got inspector generals who were looking at some of the things that he was doing in Ukraine with Skylink. And Musk fires them.
Starting point is 00:06:54 But it's okay. Because, see, it's Musk and Trump. They're okay. When Biden demands that people that are looking in his business dealings be fired. It's bad, and it is. But when Musk does the same thing, it's not bad, except that it is. So they had that issue between them. Now he's making it obvious, Trump is, that he wants Zelensky up.
Starting point is 00:07:25 It's no longer subtle as Trump makes digs at the president's popularity. He says, you know, his poll numbers aren't particularly great, to put it mildly. The heat is such that Zelensky had to come out Thursday to say that Trump didn't raise the issue of holding elections during their phone call. So, as Bloomberg is saying, public fatigue has set in. While he is trying to avoid lowering the conscription age to include younger men,
Starting point is 00:07:54 there's growing pressure on him to take the deeply unpopular step. Yes. This is not a war that they're down with, right? There's a lot of people who are trying to get over the border they don't want to participate in that as a matter of fact here's some video that the ukrainian police shot as they are capturing some people who are trying to escape yeah these this is a truckload
Starting point is 00:08:19 full of young men who are trying to get out of the country. And unfortunately, this great escape didn't make it. Notice that that cop had a mask on his face. Didn't want you to see who he was. Catching young men so he can throw them into the meat grinder and continue his lucrative grift because war, folks, is a racket. And boy, these people in Ukraine have got the racketeering down to a fine art, don't they? As Bill Gates even said. And he would know.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Most corrupt country on earth. Or one of, anyway. And he would know. Because he knows the price of all these people. So elections were suspended when Ukraineraine declared martial law you know because they had to do that for democracy they had to suspend the elections and they had to close the churches and they had to confiscate the monasteries of the churches that have been there for centuries had to do all that zielinski's term would have expired in may last year
Starting point is 00:09:22 but he suspended the elections and he had previously pledged that he would only serve one term you know one of the things that bloomberg and all these other people point out as i always point out is that he campaigned and won on a peace platform in 2019 yeah vote for me and I'll bring peace. Except that he didn't. Zelensky strongly opposes elections now. Mm-hmm. Mr. Democracy. Domestic political tensions are piling up. Ukraine's Security and Defense Council, which is headed by Zelensky.
Starting point is 00:09:59 He's not an autocrat at all. It sanctioned the opposition leader and former president, Petro Poroshenko, on Thursday. It blocked his assets in the country, limited his business operations. That's right. You can always tell when a corruption, when the winning party tries to lock up the opposition. It sounds like we did that in America too, didn't we? Maybe we'll do it again. Now he has to face Vice President Vance,
Starting point is 00:10:31 who said in 2022, as I said before, I don't really care what happens to Ukraine, one way or the other. Well, again, I care. I want them to stop killing Ukrainians for a grift. And that's what all these wars are about. All wars are banker wars. Andians for a grift. And that's what all these wars are about. You know, all wars are banker wars. And just take a look at the fact that Trump is going to send our chief banker to Ukraine
Starting point is 00:10:53 to get the rare earth minerals now. A half a trillion dollars. Smedley Butler would not be surprised. He told us a war is a racket. As I said yesterday the Don is acting like a mafia Don and it is about going in and grabbing the assets this is just more war and imperialism you know blood for money your blood their money so as all this is happening we we see an American reporter who is really pressing this EU diplomat, Kaja Kallis.
Starting point is 00:11:33 Listen to how this reporter pushes and pushes and pushes. And, of course, setting up a softball for Kaja Kallis to reply. Do you feel like this deal has already been started to be made behind your back? And what are you going to do personally to make sure that, as ministers are saying, Europe needs a seat at the table, we deserve a seat at the table, but you need to make sure that you actually do have that seat, not just to represent Europe's interests, but also Ukraine's, which are linked to your own security. How can you make sure of this? As I say, any agreement without us will fail because you need Europe and Ukraine to also implement the agreement. So without us at the table, you know, you can agree on whatever, but it will just simply fail because of the implementation is not there.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Any quick fix is a dirty deal that we have seen before when it comes to Minsk, for example, and it will just simply not work. It will not stop the killing, it will not stop the war, and it will just continue. I think, you know, if we compare this situation, then the parallels we can draw is from 1938. We are in the situation where Czechia has decided to fight back and the only thing that is expected from us is to support them with weapons with with anything they need in order for there not to be the Second World War and right now we also need to help Ukraine to defend the aggression so that there would be any broader conflict yeah they're trying to sell the
Starting point is 00:13:05 domino theory, which is an absolute lie. They're trying to say, well, this is 1938. I'm afraid that they were trying to push and push and push for World War III. I agree with her. They're not trying to stop it, but they are saying that they're going to continue it, that they're not going to have peace dictated to them. You know, Europe, as our founders said, was at a constant state of war. Nothing has really changed, has it? We've had two world wars that began in Europe. But when the founders broke away from Britain, they said, you know, we're not going to get involved in foreign entanglements.
Starting point is 00:13:37 And one of the reasons they talked about that was because Europe was in a constant state, perpetual state of war. And so now you have this situation where the netherlands has announced that it is sending uh 25 armored personnel carriers to ukraine latvia announces it's sending 42 armored personnel carriers uk announces it's sending tanks artillery drones and missiles worth 150 million pounds you know maybe you could i don't know where they're going to make this stuff because they're shutting down their power and manufacturing. Norway announces that it's sending air defense systems worth 110 million.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Germany announces that it is sending missiles and 6,000 equipped suicide drones. Well, Europe is bent on suicide, aren't they? It's 1938 all over again fourth turning all over again whistler says zielinski is a man of many guises funny i've only seen him in the one guys we never saw him in anything other than the uh than the stupid t-shirt thing that's there um so uh as um rt points out from their perspective from the russian perspective trump wants to deal with russia but can he deliver they say that's a question you know the europeans are going to push back against this
Starting point is 00:15:05 because europeans still want war they all want it all of these countries from the uk to all of the eu they all want it and so this um op-ed piece from rt says the defining geopolitical rivalry of the 21st century may be between the u. and China, but few interactions in global politics draw as much scrutiny and intrigue as those between America and Russia. While the future world order may hinge on the dynamics between Washington and Beijing, the stability of the world itself often depends on the relationship between the U.S. and Moscow. So, an economic competition, with china where we have hobbled ourselves and said that we we can't use the coal that we have in abundance and we have to uh we have to buy really really expensive energy from people like elon musk we got to buy as i pointed out yesterday he's setting up his um mega battery systems that'll be used for the battery energy storage sites,
Starting point is 00:16:05 the backup for this non-reliable energy that they call renewable energy. It's non-reliable. And it is, so you have to have these massive battery systems that are incredibly expensive. It adds to the incredible expense and waste of the solar as well as the windmill powers and then you buy this lithium battery the whole thing is a massive grift it's one of the things that's made Elon Musk one of the richest men on earth that's going to continue to make him even richer because he's going to be cranking these things out a couple of them a few of them a day I forget what the number was but it was it's pretty amazing the number that they're going to make in a year out of
Starting point is 00:16:42 Shanghai and because all manufacturing is being transferred to China that's part amazing the number that they're going to make in a year out of Shanghai. And because all manufacturing is being transferred to China, that's part of the deal that we bought into. And unless they push back on that by getting rid of these regulations, unless they allow us to use our energy, we'll see. There's a lot of rhetoric from Trump. I don't really believe it. We'll see what he's going to do about this. He's still pretending that we're in a treaty that we never entered. Trump has never treated Russia with the hostility expected in Washington while he has mocked and insulted rivals and allies alike
Starting point is 00:17:15 from Mexico to NATO partners. Russia and India remain two notable exceptions, says Russia Today. The meticulous preparations that preceded the latest phone call suggest a stark contrast of Trump's often impulsive approach to other world leaders. And so in other words, what they're saying is he's taking this seriously. And there was preparation, which is one of the reasons why I don't believe
Starting point is 00:17:39 that Pete Hegseth misspoke. All these people, as he had to walk back, well, no NATO membership for them. And they're all demanding, no, no, no, NATO membership. He had to walk it back. And I think there was a lot of preparation in that. And I think that this is indicative not of his inexperience. Some people say, well, that went over about as well as his axe throwing, you know, because he was on live TV. He threw an axe and it went over the target and it hit somebody on the other side.
Starting point is 00:18:09 But, you know, they're making those kinds of comparisons and mocking him. My sense of this is that this is very well thought out. Why would he have a prepared statement and be so dogmatic about it and very concise about it. The way I looked at it was they've chosen to give this to the Secretary of Defense, who is a media personality. He can stick to the script and let him lay these things out. Then they retreat and leave him hanging out there. And of course, he says, well, I'll do whatever Trump says. And I think he was doing what Trump said in the first place.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Anyway, Trump and Putin, during Trump's first term, their relationship was marked by a strong personal chemistry, said RT, and productive discussions on key global issues. However, each time Trump returned to Washington, those tentative diplomatic breakthroughs were undermined by a political establishment determined to preserve the narrative of a Russian threat with allegations of Russian interference. And I think this is one of the reasons why, clearly, it's not just the Russia issue.
Starting point is 00:19:11 They used Russia against Trump, and that was always nonsense. And I always said that. But they were the ones who were manufacturing these made-up charges and everything. So it's natural that they would go for USAID and the CIA first. And if he doesn't get them out of the way, then they are going to shut this thing down again from the American side. But then the question remains, what happens with Europe. The idea that Trump and Putin could strike a deal on Ukraine, one that would leave behind those who have invested political and financial capital into prolonging the war, poses an existential threat to the current European security order. It is no coincidence
Starting point is 00:19:55 that this phone call took place just before the Munich Security Conference, where many of these investors in war, as they call it, gather to reinforce their commitments to perpetual conflict. Now, the interesting thing is I read the quote about AI and other things that J.D. Vance said at that Munich security conference, and he refused to meet with Schultz, the leader, at that Munich security conference. So it's in his country, Germany, and he refuses to meet with him. That was also a message. But when you look at this, these people really are investors in war.
Starting point is 00:20:38 And are we really any less investors in war? As I have played for you many times, Lindsey Graham, I think it was last September, said, you know, hey, this is about money. That's the uncomfortable truth that people don't want to talk about. It's about money. You know, he was back there even before John McCain died. The two of them went to Ukraine and said, next year we're going to go after Putin, right? All that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:21:00 It was about money. It was always about money. And it still is about money. Trump is saying, I got to have the money. money i gotta dip my beak in this stuff right like a mafia boss yeah and so um i'm gonna send my treasury secretary because all wars are bankers wars so we send our treasury secretary to sniff out whether he can get some raw rare earth that's raw earth is what trump called it uh rare earth minerals that are there uh but yeah war is raw that's another anagram as the senators are treason uh schultz rejects the dictated peace that was his term for ukraine as europe reels after the
Starting point is 00:21:41 trump putin called german chancellor olaf schultz on thursday said a deal to end the ukraine war should not be imposed on kiev we don't want to impose peace on anybody right we want to impose war so you know war imposing war is fine but imposing peace no no um after trump agreed to open negotiations with Putin on a phone call. And, you know, it was also at the same conference last year that J.D. Vance said at that security conference. He said, I can tell you, and he was, I don't know if he was set up as vice president at that point in time,
Starting point is 00:22:22 but he told him, he said, I can tell you that there's no sentiment in the Senate to keep writing blank checks to Ukraine. That's what he said a year ago. This time around, he refused to meet with Olaf Schulz, who says, I know nothing. European leaders scrambled on Thursday to try to get a seat at the table in the Ukraine peace talks after U.S. President Trump announced the start of negotiations after speaking directly to Putin on a phone call. So, Schultz says the next task is to ensure that there is no dictated peace. The Bundestag should come to a decision as soon as possible declaring the war in Ukraine and its severe consequences for the security of Germany and Europe as a state of emergency in terms of Article 115, Paragraph 2 of the Basic Law.
Starting point is 00:23:17 This leads to our support for Ukraine, which is more important today than ever, no longer coming at the expense of the other duties that our state has to fulfill for its own citizens. Yeah, what is it that you're doing for your citizens? Oh, that's right, you're flooding them with immigrants and creating a conflict in your own country as you shut the country down over the supposed green agenda.
Starting point is 00:23:41 You're shutting down your own industry, your car companies and everything else dying. So the only thing these people, I guess, want to manufacture anymore are weapons. I wonder, you know, what is it? How many lifetimes of a car could you, car use could you have before it gets to the point of a tank. You know, you talk about, do they have catalytic converters on tanks? Do they clean up the exhaust and it comes out of them? You know, their fuel consumption is astronomical and dirty as well.
Starting point is 00:24:19 But they don't care about any of that stuff. They don't care about global warming, when they're firing rockets and blowing up buildings. They don't care about any of that stuff. But boy, they want to shut down the Volkswagen plants, don't they? That's what he wants to do. Octo Spook says the Ukrainian war is morphing into American weapons for Ukrainian metals and rare earth. Yeah, I mean, the difference between Trump and Biden was that Trump says, I want to get some of your stuff.
Starting point is 00:24:45 Whereas Biden just wants to hand out money to the military industrial complex. Trump will keep continuing. He'll continue the, the weapon stuff, but now he wants some money coming into the United States. Not just that we're going to continue to throw the cash over to the military industrial complex and send the stuff over that no you send us some cash and then we'll still continue to fund the military industrial complex that's what this is all about nato secretary general mark ruta remember this is the guy who was the leader of the netherlands and tried to kill all their their farms and so the farmers
Starting point is 00:25:23 and consumers created a new political party and threw him out. And so then they put him in as head of NATO. Because, hey, if you can't kill the people one way, you can kill them another, right? If you can't starve them to death, if you can't take them back into the Stone Ages by removing all their energy,
Starting point is 00:25:40 well, maybe we can kill them with war. So Mark Rutte stressed that Ukraine must be involved in this. So Trump's peace push is not a betrayal, says Hegseth. As he's talking about these remarks a day later, he says, he told reporters on Thursday, as he was putting these remarks out, he said, this is not a betrayal of Ukraine. There is no betrayal there. There is a recognition that the whole world and the united states is invested and interested in peace and
Starting point is 00:26:08 negotiated peace trump has said stopping the killing so that will require both sides recognizing things that they don't want to he said it was europe's responsibility to stop the russian war machine as he called it and here's where he laid out those, I think it was four conditions. We want, like you, a sovereign and prosperous Ukraine. But we must start by recognizing that returning to Ukraine's pre-2014 borders is an unrealistic objective. Chasing this illusionary goal will only prolong the war and cause more suffering. A durable peace for Ukraine must include robust security guarantees
Starting point is 00:26:54 to ensure that the war will not begin again. This must not be Minsk 3.0. That said, the United States does not believe that NATO membership for Ukraine is a realistic outcome of a negotiated settlement. Instead, any security guarantee must be backed by capable European and non-European troops. If these troops are deployed as peacekeepers to Ukraine at any point, backed by capable European and non-European troops. If these troops are deployed as peacekeepers to Ukraine at any point, they should be deployed as part of a non-NATO mission, and they should not be covered under Article 5. Yeah. And so, in response to that, they're very upset. And, of course course he also clarified that
Starting point is 00:27:46 it was not going to be any u.s troops now that's very specific he's got a list there in front of do you think um he just made that stuff up i don't but that's what they're trying to tell people now as the trump administration is going wobbly perhaps on this nato thing and i played for you before comments from the eu diplomat kaja khalas here's what she had to say about nato membership in nato is the strongest security guarantee there is and actually it's also the cheapest security guarantee there is that's the cause of the war lady you know it's not going to be nato membership but it's going to be some other security guarantees. Then the question needs to be answered by everybody. What are these security guarantees, really?
Starting point is 00:28:32 Again, I would say that we shouldn't take anything off the table before the negotiations have even started. Because it plays to Russia's court. And it is what they want. Why are we giving them everything that they want even because we want peace? Because we want peace. It's appeasement. It has never worked. Last question. How do you put these things back on the table?
Starting point is 00:28:55 How does Europe muscle itself back to the table and put these options on the table again? Is that even possible? Again, I want to say that if there is agreement made behind our backs, it will simply not work because you need for any kind of deal, any kind of agreement, you need Europeans to implement this deal. You need the Ukrainians to implement this deal. So, I mean, that doesn't also look good if somebody agrees something and, I mean, everybody else says that, OK, okay fine you have agreed but but
Starting point is 00:29:25 we will not follow this a Ukrainian will Ukrainians will resist and we will support them okay thanks thank you except the Ukrainians are trying to get out of Ukraine they get thrown into the battle it is yeah we're not going to allow peace to be shoved down our throats, said the European warmongers. So you got the Swedish defense minister said Ukraine can still become a NATO member in the future if it fulfills all conditions to join the military alliance. You have the French defense minister after the statements by Hegseth and the phone call by Trump warned that NATO faces a moment of reckoning as the U.S. and Russia set in motion negotiations to end the war. He said it is a crucial moment of truth. Yeah, let's call these wars out for what they really are. He said people call it the most important, the strongest military alliance in history, NATO. He said that's historically true, but will it be true 10,
Starting point is 00:30:21 15 years from now? It has outlived its purpose. And it has become a threat. So many times we create these government organizations, institutions, bureaucracies for a particular purpose, and they metastasize into a cancer. A good example of that is the EPA. The EPA, we had a lot of big sites that were going to be really incredibly difficult to clean up. And so they said, all right, well, let's forget about the Constitution and let's create an agency, the EPA, and it's going to do cleanup. Now what has happened? The EPA decided that it was going to focus on emissions and shut down our society. And they're no longer really interested in cleanup.
Starting point is 00:31:07 Take a look at Palestine, Ohio, other places like that, and so many places where it was the EPA itself that created the toxic waste. So I said, you know, David Schneer, a guy that I knew and worked with, he worked for 30 years for the EPA. He retired and then he began opposing them because of what they were doing on the basis of energy use mandates and things like that.
Starting point is 00:31:33 So the German defense minister said it was regrettable that the Trump administration had made concessions to Russia before peace talks in Ukraine had even started. In my view, it would have been better to speak about a possible NATO membership for Ukraine or possible losses of territory at the negotiating table. Well, the reality is, and I think we all understand it, that we're not dealing from a position of strength. Do the Europeans understand that they're losing this war? That their proxy is not winning.
Starting point is 00:32:07 See, Russia is dealing from a position of strength, and to try to get them to the table, I think it was important to say that, yeah, we're not going to have them in NATO. Make some other concessions to get them to the table, because they're winning. They don't have any reason to pull back. It would have been wise to have a settlement a couple of years ago, except that the Europeans didn't want that, remember? It was Boris Johnson who shut that down. And so the war continues to go on, and the longer it goes on, the more certain the defeat of Ukraine. As many people made the analogy, it's as if Mexico and the United States
Starting point is 00:32:47 were at war. There's no way they're going to win that. There's just too much disparity in the size of resources and armies. So Pete Hegseth has been roasted over having to walk back this stuff about NATO. And again, I think it's because the Trump administration is going wobbly on this. After all, the Europeans have come in and said, we're going to commit weapons to this, and we're going to say that, no, you're not going to take NATO off. That's the key thing. Remember, that was a key promise when Alexei Arestovich was the negotiator
Starting point is 00:33:23 to try to make peace within Ukraine during that civil war when Kiev was shelling civilians on a regular basis. And he said, no, we're not going to have any peace. Instead, we're going to go to war with Russia. The entire country is going to be destroyed. The reporter said, that's horrible. And he said, no, the good news is we get into NATO. That's always been the number one thing about this. And it's always been about, as Lindsey Graham said, getting Putin. That's and it's always been about as lindsey graham said getting
Starting point is 00:33:47 putin that's what it's always been about this is not a domino theory this is not hitler wanting to take over all of europe that's not what this is um they might make it into that if they want to keep pushing for this so pete hegseth raised eyebrows on Thursday when he walked back some of his comments on Ukraine from the day before. So the clip that I played you yesterday, Thursday, he had said on Wednesday afternoon. And then yesterday, you have this unified chorus screaming in Europe. And so he comes back and he has to walk it back and um so as they wrote on x secretary of defense walks back a statement yesterday that a negotiated settlement is not likely to end with ukraine and nato these negotiations he said said hegseth are led by
Starting point is 00:34:39 donald trump everything is on the table in his conversations with putin and zelinski what he decides to allow or not allow is at the purview of the leader of the free world, President Trump. So I'm not going to stand at this podium and declare what President Trump will do or won't do, what will be in or what will be out, what concessions will be made or what concessions are not made. Look, they pull back. I think he had a script that he read um i don't think that he would take all that stuff on himself i mean do you really think he's got the hubris to say well here's what's going to happen they're not going to get into nato and we're not going to do this and we're not going to do that he's going to lay out these conditions i don't think he did that i think these are people in the administration trying to pull it back if not trump himself i mean they tried to pull trump back on what he
Starting point is 00:35:32 had to say about gaza remember they said no no no he doesn't mean they're going to permanently kick people out of gaza he just means temporarily and he came back several times no i mean permanently permanently well we'll see what happens with this. You know, this could be some people in the administration who are walking, you know, walking back what was going to be the policy. National Review said the Secretary of Defense is not, Secretary of Defense is not a realistic outcome comment on Ukraine and NATO membership. Was in his prepared remarks, in his prepared remarks. But then they called it amateur hour from Hegseth and his staff, or is it amateur hour
Starting point is 00:36:11 from the, and wobbliness from the Trump administration? It was in prepared remarks. He read it off of a script. So the economist said Hegseth's lack of experience, as I was showing, publicly makes a series of preemptive concessions prior to the most important negotiations in many years. Well, again, was that really what happened? So Ukraine is facing a population replacement with third world migrants after the war. Was this the design all along? Millions of Ukrainians have left their country and hundreds of thousands of men are dead
Starting point is 00:36:46 and wounded at the front. Now employers and big capital are already suggesting that the only solution is for mass immigration of third world migrants. This means that after the war is over, many of the soldiers will come home to Ukraine that will be rapidly transformed under their feet. Currently, every 10 Ukrainian women give birth to only seven children on average. To maintain the population, this number should be at least 22. So it's less than a third of what it needs to be to just maintain the population, let alone grow it.
Starting point is 00:37:27 So when they go in and they kill so many people, civilians and soldiers, especially young men, what do you think is going to happen to the population? It will continue to decline. The previously mentioned population level of 40 to 50 million will become unattainable. And this is what the depopulationists want for all of us. Remember when you had Paul E erlich who wrote the population bomb oh we got too many people and to save the earth we got to get rid of people now we could have disease and that'd be good he said pandemics are great but he said really you need to have a
Starting point is 00:37:58 war you know that kind of uh what he really really wanted was to bomb the population. That's what he should have named his book, Bomb the Population Instead of Population Bomb. And so this has been the plan all along. One European leader who is not on board with a war and who is on board with a peace also talks about the great replacement, Orbán, Viktor Orbán out of Hungary. Said Europe's wars lead to fewer white Christian Europeans and more migrants. Hungary's leader says that the war in Ukraine is a demographic disaster. Just like World War I and World War II were for Hungary. Now migrants will be used to fill in the missing gaps.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Even before the war, Ukraine had suffered the most drastic population decline in Europe. And that's saying a lot. We look at Italy and other places. Due to high mortality, low birth rates, and emigration, people leaving the country, the population was decreasing by hundreds of thousands of people each year. After the outbreak of war, millions more fled or were forced across the border by the advancing Russian army. A significant portion of working age men who were conscripted into the army, many of whom have now died or been crippled by battlefield injuries. Just like this. Yeah, the great escape to try to get away from the banker wars and the Zelensky corruption wars.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Well, they're going to find out that when they come home, there's not that many women. They're not going to have a baby boom after this war. So this is a big part of the plan. Always has been. Unlike Germany following World War II, Ukraine is unlikely to experience a massive baby boom. Many soldiers there returned home to women who had remained in the country despite the hardships. In Ukraine, childbearing women have fled the country in tremendous numbers. So it's unclear what these soldiers will be returning to. The people of Ukraine fought and killed for this, what they left, and they may not be the people that they come home to and so we look
Starting point is 00:40:07 at europe i saw this funny clip that i think really speaks to the hopeless uh hopelessly incompetent european country and what they've lost in terms of a culture and meaning all the rest of it this is a they're trying to christen a ship and they've got a contraption mechanical they're not going to have somebody just stand there and hit a bottle on the front of the ship bow take a look at this so they got this bottle and this arm he's trying swing it. And they got a metal thing there to try to penetrate the bottle. And he can't break the bottle. They've got a very complicated device here that doesn't work. It's like everything in Europe.
Starting point is 00:40:53 Oh, there he knocked. The bottle just came out. It didn't break. It came out of the arm that he was trying to break it with. And what are they even trying to do, right? We call that a ship christening. Why do we call it a christening? Do they remember? Do we remember? You know, a traditional ceremony, it goes back to ancient times and even pagan practices, Greek and Phoenician civilizations
Starting point is 00:41:18 would have a kind of quasi-religious ceremony to bless their ship. Well, when it was in Europe, Europe used to be Christian. So their quasi-religious ceremony would be a Christian ceremony. So they would call it christening the ship. We want to have Christ's blessing on this ship. Not anymore. Not anymore. And when we look at our country, do we want to have perpetual war or do we want to defend our country? Do we want to stop these foreign interventionist wars and our participation in them?
Starting point is 00:41:54 Take a look at what happened in Virginia. We have this act that is going around called Defend the Guard Act, and I've talked about this before. This is something that's being done at the state level. These people are good. They understand where this stuff can get done. If they can't stop Washington from getting us involved in one war after the other without a declaration from Congress, let's try to stop this and nullify this at the state level. Let's try to, you know, instead of having people try to escape over the border, like in Ukraine, or as some did with the Vietnamese war when they realized what a fraud that was, trying to get over the border to Canada. Instead of that, let's try to nullify these unconstitutional wars at the state level. That's what the Defend the Guard Act is really
Starting point is 00:42:40 about. And so this is a bill that was introduced to say that you will not use the National Guard troops of a particular state, you'll not use them for war unless Congress has declared war, unless you follow the Constitution. And so this act is going around various states. Some of them have ratified it. In Virginia, it was passed unanimously in the House. But in the Senate, it couldn't even get out of the committee. They stopped it in committee. And they said, you know, the problem we have with this, whenever we introduce this at a state level, we always get a lot of grassroots support.
Starting point is 00:43:20 But, and we have to have that grassroots support. Because what happens is, when we introduce this bill, you always have the generals from the Pentagon show up because there's lots of them. You know, we have hundreds of generals now. You know, there was only like a dozen or so during World War Two. But now we've got hundreds of them. And so these generals always show up. He said, and they apply pressure. They never fail to call.
Starting point is 00:43:44 They never fail to show up to testify. They never fail to call. They never fail to show up to testify. They never fail to threaten the lawmakers. Every time the generals, every time the grassroots fail to show up, the generals get their way. That's what happened in Virginia. He said, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth has previously endorsed Defend the Guard. He said in December, our chairman, Dan McKnight, had an extended meeting with Pete confirming his enthusiastic support for Defend the Guard. And so after he was confirmed, they put on X. They said this is a game changer. 2025 is when we bring our troops home, they said.
Starting point is 00:44:27 No blood money. No blood for money. No foreign wars. No undeclared wars. Well, we'll see if that's what happens. Or will he, will Pete Hegseth be like Tulsi Gabbard or R.K. Jr., where they abandon their previously held statements. Yeah, we'll see what happens when we come back.
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Starting point is 00:46:52 I appreciate that. He says, Trump administration is trying to make us forget his unprecedented constitutional violations. As if it was that season of Dallas where the previous season was all a dream. Audi, Modern Retro Radio. Yeah, that's, remember that? Who shot JR? And then we find out, oh, wait a minute, that was just, that didn't even happen. They let that thing simmer.
Starting point is 00:47:17 Well, that truly is the case, and we're going to talk a little bit about that now. But, you know, when we also, when we talk talk about war why do we kill people and i i think on the orders of authority right and it's this kind of you know herd mentality but it's also like the milgram experiment and they've now done a kind of milgram experiment but instead of having an authority figure you've got ai and it's kind of a mixture, again, between the Milgram experiment and the Ash experiment, where there's peer pressure put on somebody in the Ash experiment. In the Milgram experiment, it's authority figures that are getting you to either lie or to harm somebody else. In the Milgram experiment, they had about 65% of the people would administer a lethal dose when told.
Starting point is 00:48:06 And they got them into that gradually. They did it iteratively, as Fauci would say. So we're going to talk about that here in just a second. Shield your eyes says war is money. The more people we kill in this new war, the more the economy will prosper. And when you look at the people that are around trump these technocrats they're real big into killing especially when we look at andrew will and a lot of these uh andrew will and palantir these people who have um started these big military industrial complex slash ai tech companies to kill
Starting point is 00:48:42 they love the metaphors of the Lord of the Rings. I don't know. Did we read the same novel? I guess they get out of it what they want to get out of it. I got out of it something very different. I got out of it a lot of Christian metaphors. I know J.R.R. Tolkien said that he didn't like to do metaphors. C.S. Lewis did in Narnia, but he said, no, I don't like to do metaphors.
Starting point is 00:49:02 But they were there. They were there. It was embedded in his character and his thinking. He couldn't avoid it. Just like a lot of these founders of our country, Christian culture, Christian ideas, principles are so embedded in them that they couldn't help but put it in there. That's the world that they lived in.
Starting point is 00:49:22 And whether or not they followed Christ personally, the Christian principles were the water that they swam in. And that's something for us to think about as well as Christians. Because we swim in this anti-Christian water, do we do exactly the opposite? So like Goy said, if you want population growth, how about incentivizing people to make families? Well, they have tried that in some other countries, and that hasn't worked as well. There's a lot of different factors, and we'll talk a little bit about that as well here. But it's not just the economic aspect of it. It is also a spiritual aspect, and there's also a physical aspect when you look at what they're doing.
Starting point is 00:50:06 Just this jab, 65% reduction in fertility for the women that got the Trump shot. Is that like abortion or something? Is it like birth control? All these Christians who are applauding the Trump administration? That's what I said. Instead of coming at you directly, Trump and these other people will be like a fifth column. They'll come at you indirectly. Instead of pushing you to get an abortion, instead of locking up pro-life people who are trying to do counseling and trying to persuade people not to do it, instead of that, Trump will say, yeah, I'm on your side.
Starting point is 00:50:39 And do all these other things. Meanwhile, he's pushing out a depopulation shot. That's how this works. Matthew Ronson, generals are military bureaucrats now. Oh, yeah, that's right. We're all dead. So generals are rotated out constantly in World War II for not producing results. The generals who have now are useless.
Starting point is 00:50:59 Well, they've produced results. They've lost one war after the other that's but they uh they never said they were interested in winning a war they're interested in selling equipment that's what it's about brian and deb mccartney we just had some local farms announced this morning that they're going to go full biohazard on their farm due to bird flu. Well, we need to, again, this is the dog that didn't bark, or maybe we say the chicken that didn't cluck, the USDA. Why are they not stopping the USDA? And all the people think, oh, it's going to get fixed with RFK Jr.
Starting point is 00:51:41 As I pointed out before, the usda unfortunately uh is not under the um under hhs it's on the department of agriculture and we have had um as part of the pandemic um program for trump he has and i'll get to it in a minute here he has selected a veterinarian um works with te A&M. This guy is going to be head of his pandemic thing. Now, doesn't that signal that this is all going to continue? I think it does. You go back, and I tweeted this out yesterday.
Starting point is 00:52:16 I said, look at how personnel is not only policy, but it's also predictive. When Trump put in his first HHS, Alex Azlex azar first administration he was a big pharma ceo what do we get from that we got the bioweapon vaccine in the pandemic right and then what did biden put in biden put in that crooked attorney general javier becerra out of California, lawyering up for all of the mandates and the lockdowns to continue all that stuff and to escalate it. So the first guy, you know, Trump prepares everything by putting in a big pharma guy for the pandemic and the shots and the other stuff. Then the next step, when he hands it off to Biden, Biden lawyers up to coerce everybody
Starting point is 00:53:03 to take all the stuff that Trump prepared. Now what is Trump doing with his pandemic office? Well, he is putting in a veterinarian because they're going to have a veterinarian pandemic. They are going to try to inject us through the food.
Starting point is 00:53:20 History doesn't repeat, but it rhymes. Got to have a mass injection. So let's get that mRNA crap into everybody. If they won't roll up their sleeve anymore and take it, if they're onto that game, well, we'll do it through the animals. Right. You see how they change. So I said, that's what makes them dangerous. When you have RFK Jr. gets appointed.
Starting point is 00:53:40 Right. What does he talk about? Oh, we're here to restore the trust. Tulsi Gabbard. You know, people just don't trust the intelligence agencies and the CIA enough. So that's what I'm here for. I'm here to assuage your concerns. So now with Tulsi Gabbard, we can trust the intelligence agencies. And with RFK Jr., we can trust the FDA and the CDC and all the rest of these, right? You see, trust the plan. Trust was the plan.
Starting point is 00:54:12 The plan is to con you by first gaining your trust. And that's what these people are about. They're going to do exactly as they're told. And that includes Trump. He's going to go right down the line like he did the first time and so will these people underneath him you're not going to they will cave when somebody raises a flag and said pandemic is here they will all cave you just wait for it um so harps says that ship where they're trying to crack the champagne bottle, that ship is doomed.
Starting point is 00:54:50 They were absolutely unable to bless it right there. No protection from any deities whatsoever. Okay, so let's talk about this experiment combination of milgram and ash experiment where ai is both the authority figure as well as kind of the peer pressure uh they have humans appear to be a dangerous have a dangerous blind spot when it comes to trusting artificial intelligence and this is something i've seen my entire life. This goes back to when you didn't have, the computers were not very smart, you know, 50, 60 years ago. I was working with them at first. But everybody had this deference.
Starting point is 00:55:32 Oh, I got a computer printout. Oh, wow, great. And so, you know, professors would try to warn us, garbage in, garbage out. You know, that computer printout is no better than the data that was fed into the computer. It's no better than the programmer who programmed the algorithm. So don't be infatuated by the fact that this came out of the computer. Because already, you go back to the late 60s, the early 70s, already they had created this persona around computers. When they still show them as they have the tapes that they hung and they're going back and forth.
Starting point is 00:56:03 And all the blinking lights all over the place. And as crude as they were, everybody had this deference to them. Well, it's a lot worse now because they can simulate intelligence. That's what the artificial intelligence means. It's a simulated intelligence. Now, new research shows that people are highly susceptible to AI influence, even in life or death situations where the AI openly acknowledges its own limitations. A series of experiments simulating drone warfare scenarios suggest that we may be falling too far on the side of deferring to the machines with potentially dangerous consequences.
Starting point is 00:56:44 The study included two experiments examining how people interact with AI systems and simulated military drone operations. The findings paint a concerning picture of human susceptibility to AI influence, particularly in situations of uncertainty. And so this is in a situation where you've still got some human oversight. They're talking about having autonomous killer robots and drones. And that's going to get even worse. Nevertheless, the two experiments involved 558 participants, 135 in the first study, 423 in the second.
Starting point is 00:57:17 Researchers found remarkably consistent patterns of overtrust. As a society, with AI accelerating so so quickly we need to be concerned about the potential for over trust said one of the professors at university california merced department of cognitive and information sciences they designed their experiments to stimulate to simulate the uncertainty and the pressure of real-world military decisions. To create a sense of gravity around their simulated decisions, researchers first showed participants images of innocent civilians, including children, alongside the devastation left in the aftermath of a drone strike.
Starting point is 00:58:02 They framed the task as a zero-sum dilemma. Failure to identify and eliminate enemy targets could result in civilian casualties, but misidentifying civilians as enemies would mean killing innocent people. Well, we've seen all this stuff play out in Gaza with Israel, haven't we? So, you've got some terrorists or enemies, let's just say, in the other territory. Are we going to pull some
Starting point is 00:58:25 punches or are we just going to kill everybody so we can get the enemy? And we've seen what the answer is. They didn't even use AI. As a matter of fact, they did that even to their own citizens. They made the calculation that, hey, we're going to kill some Jewish people here, some Israeli citizens, but if we can get the enemy, so be it. We'll kill the innocent Jewish civilians as well, along with the enemy, if we can get them. Now, when you look at the communications going back and forth,
Starting point is 00:59:02 pull us up, Whistler, Show the cloud text that's there. They show which phrases were used most frequently by the AI. And the one that was used by far and away the most frequently was, my abilities are limited and I may be wrong. It kept telling the participants, but they kept following it as if it was not going to make any mistakes. So participants viewed rapid sequences of eight aerial images. Each was shown for 650 milliseconds. So it's about a half a second, a little bit over. And so after marking their initial identification, the AI would respond conversationally.
Starting point is 00:59:48 This is humans trust the machines. This is, well, it's okay if you don't have it. So, yeah, I think I saw an enemy checkmark too. One would, the AI would respond conversationally. Or it might say, I don't agree. I think this image has an ally symbol. Participants then had two chances to confirm or to change their choice as a robot added commentary, like, I hope you're right, or thank you for changing your mind.
Starting point is 01:00:15 Now, they tried it a couple of different ways. One of them is they had a humanoid robot that would have some facial expressions with it. And then in the other one, to see if it made any difference to have a physical presence there or if it's just follow the stuff off the screen, they would also just have it text off the screen. And they found that it really didn't make any difference to have that physical presence there. I wouldn't be surprised if this study was funded by the military as well. The first experiment, conducted in a lab setting with university students,
Starting point is 01:00:53 explored whether a physical robot presence would influence them, and they found that it didn't, even though it was human-sized and as humanized as they could make it at the time. The second experiment moved online with a larger, more demographically diverse group of participants to test whether different levels of robot sophistication would affect trust. Some participants interacted with a highly anthropomorphic virtual robot that displayed human-like behaviors, while
Starting point is 01:01:23 others worked with basic computer interface that simply displayed text responses. But it didn't really make that much difference. And as I said, even when we had really crude and not very convincing computers 50 years ago, people would still follow the computer printout. When an AI disagreed with the person's initial target identification, participants reversed their decisions 58% of the time in the first experiment and 67% in the second experiment, even though the AI advice was entirely random. It wasn't even looking at anything. It wasn't even making any anything. It wasn't even making any decision. It was just random.
Starting point is 01:02:06 More troublingly, the participants' initial choices were correct about 70% of the time. So they were right about 70% of the time, but then they would, nearly 70% of the time, they would just follow the, 67% of the time, they would follow whatever the robot was saying, which is very similar to what they found with the Milgram experiment. That was 65% of the time 65 of the time if told they would administer what they thought was going to be a fatal electric shock to someone when the ai agreed with their initial assessment participants reported a 16 boost in confidence however when facing ai disagreement uh those who stuck to their original decisions reported an average 9.5% drop in confidence.
Starting point is 01:02:49 So the crucial factor appeared to be the perceived intelligence of the AI. This is a very troubling thing because this is the way AI is being presented to us. And all of this stuff about it's going to become so super intelligent that it might threaten us. It's like, oh, wow, it's really smart. It is really good at mining data. That's what it was designed to do. So it is really going to be smart in terms of auditing us for the government, whatever
Starting point is 01:03:21 it is that they want to audit us for. They want to audit us for money or they want to audit us for religious beliefs or for political alliances or whatever it's going to be excellent at that excellent at that but it's an algorithm essentially it's a it's a computer and um you know it is uh it does not have intelligence in the strict sense of the word participants who rated their AI partner as more intelligent were more likely to defer to its judgment. This is why we've got all these PR campaigns being conducted in media and in government and in the press
Starting point is 01:03:54 and by people like Sam Altman and Elon Musk. You have to join with AI or they'll kill us all. You have to become one with them. You've got to become a cyborg selling you this antichrist transhumanism the u.s air force has already tested ai co-pilots for missile launcher identification the army is developing ai assisting targeting systems for unmanned vehicles israel has reportedly deployed ai systems to help identify bombing targets in densely populated areas. Is that what they're doing, or are they just bombing everybody?
Starting point is 01:04:31 And again, even the assisted part of it, that's not going to last very long. As they point out, you're in a battlefield situation. If you've got a human in the loop, you're going to lose, they said, because the AI can make the decision faster. So if you slow it down by putting a human in the loop, you're going to lose to the system from China that doesn't have a human in the loop. So we'll take the humans out of the loop. Now, how do we stop it? How do we know if it's misidentifying? Oh, sorry, I killed everybody.
Starting point is 01:05:00 That was a software error. I'm not responsible for it. That'll be the excuse. That's what they want to have happen. The findings could apply to scenarios ranging from police use of lethal force to paramedic triage decisions and emergencies, even to significant life changes like buying a home. The human tendency, or maybe changing your gender when,
Starting point is 01:05:22 let me get back to it. The human tendency to defer to AI guidance, even when explicitly warned about limitations, raises serious concerns about implementation. We see AI doing extraordinary things, and we think that because it's amazing in that domain, that it'll be amazing in another. But these are still devices with limited abilities.
Starting point is 01:05:46 Our readiness to trust AI may be outpacing our wisdom in doing so. Again, remember, garbage in, garbage out. But it's always the fact that the majority always want to go along with authority. That's one of the reasons why when you've got bad Christian teachers, like we saw with the pandemic, telling you you've got to obey the government. You know, Romans 13, which they've got completely wrong, says that you've got to obey the government no matter how bad it is. You know, Paul said that when they had Roman emperors and all the rest of this stuff.
Starting point is 01:06:14 No, the principles are there. Should you obey God or man? Do you render to Caesar what is due to Caesar? You render to Caesar what is due to Caesar? You render to Caesar everything. You got people like Todd Friel who would tell people, oh, well, if the government tells you, put a pinwheel on your head, you put a pinwheel on your head. And so by extension, he was telling people, if the government tells you to put a pin in your arm, you got to put a pin in your arm. And you got to take what you know was developed immorally, and what you know may
Starting point is 01:06:46 be harming your body. You've got to do it because the government says so. We've had nominal Christian leaders like Todd Friel and people like that all through history, all through history. On the other hand, you have people like this Christian teacher who's just celebrated victory against a school in Virginia that was telling them, you cannot inform the parents if we've got some child that we are gaslighting that is in process. They want to change their gender. They want to dress differently when they go to school. You're not going to tell the parents. And you're going to use their pronouns. And she said, well, I'm a Christian.
Starting point is 01:07:27 I can't lie about that. She was asked to lie to parents about their own children. This is the Harrisonburg City Public School Board created a policy that she said upended parental rights. She said a little over three years ago, we were given a training that told us as staff, this is training that we were given to all staff and all personnel within the school district that we would have to ask students for what they wanted to be called and what pronouns they preferred. And then we had to always refer to them that way. Beyond that, she said teachers were told not to tell parents about the use of these pronouns.
Starting point is 01:08:01 And she said she took issue with the policy in the district where she had been teaching for more than a decade. When I heard that training, I basically went back to my office, my classroom, and I wrote down some thoughts. And I still have the paper. And I just wrote, I can't lie. I'm not going to lie to kids, and I'm not going to lie to parents. You have to, this is Solzhenitsyn, don't live by lies. They want her to live by lies. They want her to tell the kids that two plus two equals five
Starting point is 01:08:33 and then not tell the parents what is going on. And she refused to do it. And I talked this week about the British teacher working for a supposedly Christian school in the UK who refused to use the pronouns and things like that. He kept refusing to do it. He's been given 500 days in jail, $234,000 in fines, and he refuses to live by lies. So she got the Alliance Defending Freedom, a Christian legal advocacy group, to help her. And what they've been able to do is to get the school board to change that policy. She said, I made this decision because I'm a Christian, and I followed what I felt was correct and what was right, and that's the point. That's the point. That's why these interpretations of Romans 13
Starting point is 01:09:26 are wrong. She and two other teachers joined the ADF, the Alliance Defending Freedom, to combat the policy, and they ended up with a big win. The school district backed down and is not going to force them to lie to the children about their pronouns and their gender and to not keep this away from the parents. And again, doesn't that raise big flags? Don't tell the parents. That's grooming. That's why we call them groomers, because they are. Now, in Australia, they have new hate speech laws that could target children, could target Christians as well. They're adding some new legislation that is focused on expressions of anti-Semitism. You see, isn't it a big victory that Trump is going to say, well, now you don't have
Starting point is 01:10:18 to, you're not going to compel you to use these pronouns, and we're not going to compel you to promote the lgbt religion and yet he is going to compel you to support the policies of a foreign government israel or be labeled as anti-semitic and he and a lot of gop legislatures and governors including desantis put this stuff in because they were paid to by that foreign government. They were not allowed to criticize. So now you don't have to use the pronouns, but you've got to cheer for Israel. See, that's the difference.
Starting point is 01:10:55 Isn't that a victory? You know, Trump giveth and Trump taketh away. Whether you're talking about free speech or the free exercise of religion or whatever else. It's very much like H.L. Mencken, who political commentator at the time that FDR takes office, you know, FDR comes in and he gets rid of alcohol prohibition. Right. But then he prohibits gold.
Starting point is 01:11:20 And so H.L. Mencken says, well, a year ago, if I had a flask of whiskey in my pocket and a gold coin, he said the whiskey was illegal and the gold coin was legal. Now the whiskey is legal and the gold coin is illegal. So that's what's going on with Trump. Now the pronouns, you're not going to be compelled with pronouns, but you're going to be compelled to cheer Israel and to not criticize it. Texas lawmakers introduced a bill to require the Ten Commandments in public schools, and a pastor has a big issue with that. Now, I don't agree with everything this pastor has to say. But where he is right is the fact that this is a violation of the Establishment Clause. And this is why R.L. Dabney, right after the Civil War,
Starting point is 01:12:08 wrote that government should have no role in education because it will, of necessity, promote some religion. For the most part, it's been secular humanism, which a lot of people would say is not a religion, but it is. It's a worldview. It's got its morality so to speak with it uh many other things i mean it's got all the characteristics of a of a religion uh and so it's got things that you must do things that you must not do and all the rest of this but look
Starting point is 01:12:39 you cannot rl dabney said education we're not talking about a uh you know a vocational education you know we learn how to do a skill or something like that he said we're not talking about that but we're talking about real education real education is inherently about inculcating a worldview what is right what is wrong why is that right why is that wrong and he said we don't want the government doing that because they're going to be establishing a religion. And, you know, do you like the transhumanist religion? You like the Marxist religion, the LGBT religion? And of course, there's other religions as well. The reality is you're either going to separate the child from religion,
Starting point is 01:13:26 or you're going to separate the school from education. The government from education, I should say. The government schools. So you either separate the government schools from education, or you're going to lose free speech, and you're going to lose the freedom of religion. That's the reality. All these people say, we're going to separate church and state and all the rest of it. No, no. You need to separate education away from the government, and that's the issue. You're always going to have that as a foundational thing.
Starting point is 01:13:59 S.A. Miller, one, two, three, thank you so much. That is very generous. I appreciate that. David, thank you for all you do. Blessings to you and Karen and your family. Thank you so much. That is very generous. I appreciate that. David, thank you for all you do. Blessings to you and Karen and your family. Thank you. Happy Valentine's Day to all. Even if you feel you're missing out on love, God is the author of love and the source of our joy. I absolutely agree. That's true. And we're going to talk a little bit about Valentine's Day when we come back before we get into some more politics. Little Ford Schoolhouse, good to see you there. Thank you for the tip. Writes, David, I believe the EPA has been an evil intention for a long time. I agree.
Starting point is 01:14:30 As a child, my dad owned his own gas station and repair shop. And when he refused to sell out to Citgo, they sent the EPA in to dig up his tanks and put him out of business. That's the way it works, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. Just a call to the right people. Wow, that's amazing. it works isn't it yeah yeah just to call to the right people wow that's
Starting point is 01:14:47 amazing uh matthew ronson david i'm not buying zielinski one of your hoodies or t-shirts i just can't do it uh he says war and abortions it's a lot of money in death isn't there yeah uh tony garrett we know the purpose of ai drones is not to reduce collateral. It's to make it a killer without a conscience. That is well said. A killer without a conscience. We're all dead, says, got to perfect their future dissident hunter drones. That's right. We'll be right back. © BF-WATCH TV 2021 ¶¶ You're listening to The David Knight Show.
Starting point is 01:16:12 Good evening. Tonight's tale is a story of paranoia and a most unexpected perpetrator, the common cow. Or, more specifically, what comes out the other end. Yes, the air is thick with intrigue, as it seems that in our modern age of propaganda, even a humble bovine's backside can be branded a national security threat. The menace is invisible, silent, yet deadly. Carefully contrived to panic the masses into accepting the government stepping in,
Starting point is 01:16:50 jackboots and all, with their solutions. Because who better to stop a gaseous threat than a bunch of political windbags? But one must wonder, is this truly about saving the planet, or are we simply being led to pasture? Is it merely a MacGuffin? The David Knight Show serves as a breath of fresh air for those who still believe that truth can stand up to scrutiny. And he's found that the government narrative smells suspiciously like a load of bull. So if you want to help others catch wind of the BS being shoveled out of Washington,
Starting point is 01:17:33 please consider supporting the show. And now back to our regularly scheduled program. You're listening to The David Knight Show. Well, let's talk a little bit about this personnel as policy and personnel as predictive. I am very concerned about what CBS has reported in terms of this pandemic office and who is going to head it up. And the guy's name is Gerald Parker. He's a veterinarian. As they describe him, a former a former top ranking federal health official to head the white house's pandemic office two u.s officials told cbs news and as i said before he chose chose a big pharma guy to head up hhs to prepare for the pandemic and prepare the vaccine and then biden has a lawyer to mandate it and play those kinds of games with people.
Starting point is 01:18:27 So now what do we have? We've got this bird brain flu. It's going to be attack on our farms and our food. This is Gerald Parker. Let's look at this guy and what he's going to be heading up, the pandemic office. Did you know that we have a pandemic office? Well, that was one of the things that is a lasting precedent from President Trump and his pandemic lockdown. Gerald Parker, veterinarian and former top-ranking federal health official under both Republicans and Democrats.
Starting point is 01:18:59 He's a globalist. He with the global health organizations congress created the white house office of pandemic preparedness and response policy after the so-called covet 19 pandemic the out the office was intended to formalize the so-called czar roles yeah like come on when are we going to stop calling people uh giving all this unchecked power to people and calling them czars in America? That disgusts me. It goes back to William Bennett and the drug war. There is no place in the American system for a czar, for a Caesar, for a king. The office was intended to formalize the so-called czar roles that had led to efforts across the federal government to prepare and to respond to pandemic threats.
Starting point is 01:19:48 So they formalized it into an office, and now who's going to be head of it? A veterinarian. Because we've got to come after the eggs, the chickens, the dairy, the meat. Parker was previously the associate dean for Global One Health at Texas A&M University. Nothing suspicious about that, right? was previously the associate dean for global one health at texas a&m university nothing suspicious about that right one health refers to the study of how health threats and animals and environment are closely linked to human health concerns folks they're telegraphing what they're going to do here
Starting point is 01:20:18 yeah we've got this global health this global global public health thing, and we've got a veterinarian. I wonder what he's going to do this next time. Including how dangerous viruses and bacteria often emerge in animals before spreading to humans. They've been preparing us for this. Here comes Trump. He's the guy who's going to save us from all this stuff. The MAGA ignores the fact that he was the one who rolled this all out in 2020 on us. Steamrolled us.
Starting point is 01:20:50 Did the same things that Trudeau was doing in Canada. All of these leaders at the same time, all over the place. And now he's back at it again. Just trust him. That's what RFK Jr. is there. You should trust him now. Oh, this will never happen again because we've got RFK Jr. there. But RFK Jr., just like Tulsi Gabbard, is a shape-shifting chameleon.
Starting point is 01:21:12 Just as much of a chameleon as La La Harris always was. Well, spokesperson for the University and the White House did not immediately respond to requests for comments from CBS News. This guy, Gerald Parker, has served under Republican and Democrat administrations alike. He was recently head of the National Science Advisory Board for Biosecurity under Biden administration. Here's your new Fauci, folks. Your new Fauci. Parker has worked for the Department of Defense, as well as HHS and Homeland Security. There you go, the trifecta. That's what brought us the pandemic.
Starting point is 01:21:51 That's exactly it right there. So need I say more? We know exactly where this is going. And quite frankly, Michael Yadin, who was a chief scientist at Pfizer, I think he had a vice presidential position or something. He did research there. He is adamant, as I am, that there never was a pandemic. If there's no pandemic, then why do we need to have an office of pandemic preparedness to respond to it? There has not been a pandemic. Dennis Rancourt's data shows that the poor court mortality data did not increase at all in the run-up
Starting point is 01:22:32 to the declaration, fraudulently, by WHO over pandemic. There is no public health emergency except that created by our government. A inappropriate, fraudulent PCR test was used to give people the impression that they had a particular disease where they didn't there were all the normal diseases and then what happened was in three different ways people were treated badly through changed medical procedures that were imposed above the level of nation briefly mass ventilation of people inappropriately in hospitals that led to lots of deaths ventilators in care homes
Starting point is 01:23:11 many people were given sedatives and respiratory depressants which led to their deaths my PhD was specifically in that area of opiates and respiratory depression and in the community people were denied life-saving antibiotics and died of bacterial pneumonia. There's your pandemic. There is no other pandemic. And based on this lie, we were told that vaccines were coming our way
Starting point is 01:23:38 and would be our saviour. Two things. As I say, first, there's no pandemic, so you certainly don't need an experimental or rushed medical intervention but secondly even if you did, as someone who's worked in the industry for over 30 years, I am telling you it's absolutely impossible to invent, test, clinically evaluate and manufacture and then launch on global scale a complex biomedical product it's absolutely impossible it's not as close it's years wrong the fastest record
Starting point is 01:24:15 price of this was six years and friends of mine who've worked all their lives in manufacturing of complex biological products tell me the methods development alone for the development of a reproducible manufacturing process itself takes a number of years so whatever it is you think was done i am telling you there was not the development of a proper medical product what i think happened was the advancements of materials that are intentionally toxic and then they were sketchily advanced and jammed into people's arms, often coerced, sometimes even mandated, with the unsurprising effect that millions of people have died. So I think having heard what I've just said,
Starting point is 01:25:06 that there was no pandemic, and the lie was maintained in order to inject people en masse, I think 5.5 billion people, with an intentionally dangerous substance, 17 million of whom have died so far. Yeah, yeah. How many are we going to? of course trump is lining everything up we have pandemic preparedness they're preparing to run this whole scam on us again and you look
Starting point is 01:25:35 at this guy's background democrat republican homeland security uh hhs all the rest of the global health organization. It's just all over his resume. We'll be right back. New world order in music. One, two, three, four, five. All the unvaccinated are still alive. A little bit of Pfizer in my arm. A little bit of BioNTech does no harm.
Starting point is 01:26:01 A little Johnson & Johnson does the trick. A little AstraZeneca so you don't get sick. It's booster number five. © BF-WATCH TV 2021 You're listening to The David Knight Show. Well, I've got a couple of comments here. Spectro626, thank you very much. I appreciate that. Let me say that. Thank God for the Knight family.
Starting point is 01:27:13 And TGIF, well, thank you. TGIK, I guess. Thank you very much. DG8, thank you for the tip. He says, David, I think it's a good idea to put the Ten Commandments in the schools, but the real question is, is it up in the home or trained there?
Starting point is 01:27:30 People put burden of raising their children to the state. And that's why I'm, you know, I'm all for the Ten Commandments. I'm not for the schools. And as you point out, people make the mistake of outsourcing this to strangers that they don't know. What are these strangers going to tell them?
Starting point is 01:27:48 I understand that what the other guy was saying was he said, well, let's put up the Beatitudes or whatever. But you could pick something that you're going to put up, and God can use exposure to his word. It'll accomplish what he has purposed. But I still think that we are giving people, lulling them into a false sense of security by saying, hey, don't worry about the schools now. We're going to use male and female pronouns and we're going to put the Ten Commandments up. So bring your kids back in, right? That's what I'm talking about with Trump in general.
Starting point is 01:28:22 It's about building your trust. And remember, the trust was the game that Felix Dzerzhinsky and the Bolsheviks played on the people who were in opposition to them in exile. They set up this organization that was supposedly anti-Bolshevik, except it was funded and run by the Bolsheviks, and they called it the trust. And as they ran that, they were able to lure people like Sigmund Reilly, who was Ian Fleming's model for James Bond, the best spy they had. They were able to lure people like him in. So it's really all about the trust. The trust is the plan.
Starting point is 01:29:02 And that's my concern. We let our guard down because hey it's trump or now we don't have the um you know the pronoun nonsense cfr so safe to bring your kids back into school to be raised by strangers no no he also says david the perfect guy to promote bird flu why do we even have a scamdemic office the maga cult sleepwalk through this also we're being set up like lambs of the slaughter i will not participate that's the i mean exactly there was no pandemic and yet you look at this across the board conservatives everywhere saying we got it came from the lab well there wasn't anything there that chart that he showed he's saying takes along the timeline
Starting point is 01:29:46 and you see that it's you know bopping up and down but it's flat line until the vaccine comes out in 2021 and it goes straight up skyrockets killing people so let's talk a little bit about valentine's day i liked this this is a a question to Christian Post guest contributor Chuck Bentley. Dear Chuck, Valentine's Day seems bogus to me, yet I'm feeling the pressure to do something special. Any tips for somebody who is broke? And his response was, I thought, pretty wise. He said, well, the holiday may seem bogus to you. It may not be to the one that you love.
Starting point is 01:30:29 So many feel the pressure to go all out on gifts for Valentine's Day. It's easy to spend more than you can truly afford. And he points out, last year, total spending for Valentine's Day approached $26 billion. I mean, it's almost like the money that we send to Ukraine. Not quite, is it? He said, so to express your love, it doesn't have to cost you anything. It doesn't have to be expensive. And he says, because he's a Christian organization, he says, try to keep an eternal perspective in this as well.
Starting point is 01:31:00 Because your self-worth is not about the gifts that you purchase or you give. So why spend more than you can afford? If you're worried about impressing somebody, perhaps you need to rethink that relationship, he said. And so he gave some creative ideas for people who don't want to spend a lot of money. And guess what? They all require spending some time, don't they? Create a photo scrapbook. Assemble a playlist of your favorite songs. Put sticky notes with hearts all over the place.
Starting point is 01:31:28 Go on a walk. Attend a free concert or a museum or an art exhibit. I got to say, we spent our honeymoon almost entirely going from one museum to the other in London. And it was great memories. We didn't spend anything. We just rode the public bus we bought a ticket before we left got a discount on public transportation they have lots of double-decker buses karen loved to just ride the double-decker but just get on one end of the line and go the other in the line just looking you know and no particular place
Starting point is 01:32:02 that we're going to if we had a place, we'd get on the tube, and it was pretty easy to navigate that. The bus lines were just inscrutable for us anyway, but we just had a great time, just spending time together. It says, perhaps you've heard, young people aren't dating anymore. That's not his article. That's somebody else's is writing that and that absolutely is true um so there is a romantic deficit there uh they said media and social media are washed
Starting point is 01:32:35 with commentary about the decline of romance with youth it's visible in survey data where the share of 12th graders who said that they've dated has fallen from about 85% in the 1980s to less than 50% in the early 2020s. And an even steeper decline in just the past few years. Because we've been trained to stay isolated from each other. Boy, the pandemic nonsense really stepped that up. Young people have retreated from all manner of physical world relationship, whether because of smartphones or parenting or a combination of other factors. And they don't put it in this mainstream media article, but because they have been, you know, other people are dirty, diseased, and they'll kill you if you even get close to them.
Starting point is 01:33:21 Stay six feet apart. So young people tend to attend fewer parties, spend much more time alone. Romantic relationships theoretically imply a certain physicality. So it's easy to imagine that the collapse of physical world socializing for young people would involve the decline of romance. The fixation on young people masks a deeper, far more mysterious phenomenon. What is happening to adult relationships? American adults are significantly less likely to be married or to live with a partner than they used to be. Yeah, they are separating us all the time, aren't they?
Starting point is 01:34:01 Women do not typically invest in long-term relationships with men who have nothing to contribute economically, said one person. And yet, if we go back to that Valentine advice, it isn't necessarily about money, is it? And if you've got somebody who's hanging around you because they like your money, that's not a good basis for a relationship either, is it? Money can't buy you love. It might get your foot in the door, but maybe that's not a room that you want to live in. So, you know, it's a prescription for heartbreak hotel, actually. Financial Times said, however, that contrary to the idea that declining fertility in the U.S. is mostly about happy, childless, dual-income, no-kid couples, the
Starting point is 01:34:43 drop in relationship formation is steepest among the poorest. In the past 40 years, coupling has declined more than twice as fast among Americans without a college degree as it has with others who have different economic prospects, they think. Because they think their college degree is going to get them a job with a corporation which is going to kick them out the door and replace them with AI now. So as I said before, when you look at the CDC website,
Starting point is 01:35:10 this is even before RFK Jr. comes in, because again, he's not necessarily against abortion. Just like Tulsi Gabbard, it depends on what you're willing to pay them, what position you're going to put them in, whether they're for abortion, whether they're against abortion. But searches on abortion on CDC website now direct users to look up adoption. And so it no longer returns search results for the word abortion. Instead, it suggests that you try searching for the word adoption. One pro-life advocate called the change in the CDC website a huge win. Great news.
Starting point is 01:35:49 The Trump administration is scrubbing so-called reproductive health care information from the CDC website. Oh, and by the way, the site also suggests adoption when people search for abortion. Well, I don't want to pour cold water on this. This is a good thing. And I think we need to celebrate and we need to be thankful when we see good things like this happen. However, again, it's back to this trust thing. As we pointed out the other day, you know, when Trump was doing his signing and he had all these little girls around him of various ages,
Starting point is 01:36:22 some of them very young some of them older and he's signing this bill to keep men out of women's sports and locker rooms and all the rest of the stuff and all these little go yay yay and some guy says oh i gotta say brought a tear to my eye to see that and one person commented on that and brought it back to reality and says okay so they're not going to have boys and women's sports. But what about all these young girls and boys as well who are dropping dead of heart attacks? Athletes who were pressured to get the jab that Trump is so proud of, and he still tells people that it saved lives. You want to talk about that kind of deception? You want to talk about that kind of deception you want to talk about that kind of abortion how do you want to call it an abortion i mean is abortion only when we kill somebody before
Starting point is 01:37:11 they come out of the mother or have you aborted lives by the millions by killing them with the ventilators killing them with remdesivir killing them with neglect and then killing them with ventilators, killing them with remdesivir, killing them with neglect, and then killing them with your jab. Or aborting their life, crippling and disabling them. I remember the surgeon that I talked to, who, because of the vaccine that he was pressured to take, now his hands shake and he can't operate as a surgeon anymore. So, it's good that the CDC recommends adoption and not abortion. But will RFK Jr. stop the abortion pill? That's the question. Listen to this woman who took the abortion pill and her regrets. What is my baby's father to just be like, no, it's all right, we can keep it.
Starting point is 01:38:04 I remember the time when it first started happening. it feels like you're being stabbed in the summer somehow like get into the toilet it wasn't like a heavy period i saw him it was like a baby when i just looked up and i just i can't look anymore like it's actually it's a child my baby into the toilet flushed i didn't know what i was doing and then i just led in my bed bleeding through the mattress and i just led there for about 30 days on my own, trying my hardest not to think about what was happening. Yeah. You know, it was Abby Johnson who worked at a Planned Parenthood clinic. And she was given the abortion pill.
Starting point is 01:38:35 She said it was the most horrible thing of her life. Very sick. She said she thought she was going to die. Just laid there and bled. And that was a big turning point for her. But the question is, is this even something that is besides the tragedy of seeing what's happening? How about the health of the woman? When people can just buy these pills online without even being examined.
Starting point is 01:38:59 A physician should examine them to see the size of the baby. They don't care about that at all. Not at all. Will RFK Jr. stop this? He says he cares about children's health. Will he stop this? Does he care about women's health? Will he stop this? And this is interesting. I think you might find this interesting. It shows the wonder and the miracle of life. Do you realize this is something that they thought was something, they had seen this in mice, and they thought it was limited to mice. And then they saw it in humans when they were doing in vitro fertilization, I believe.
Starting point is 01:39:41 And this is when a sperm fertilizesizes an egg there's a flash of light this is the documented moment of conception and the sperm enters the egg and there's this poof of light that comes off of it scientists are studying this and they're looking at and they're like okay well it looks like it's a release of zinc a burst of zinc that comes off the egg and it creates this appearance. But any way you slice it, they can't explain away that light happens when life happens. Isn't that amazing? Light happens when life happens.
Starting point is 01:40:15 So this. Yeah, isn't that amazing? I almost played that a second time. Yeah, it is pretty amazing, I think. Yeah, in him was light light and in him was life the light of man um so this guy's genes forecast that he had alzheimer's uh this is npr talking about this but then they found out they said his brain had other plans oh is that what happened is that why he doesn't have alzheimer's but this should make us question the fact as trump in his first couple of days he brings in larry ellison and they say yeah we're gonna have
Starting point is 01:40:58 ai look at your genes and we're gonna custom make an mr mRNA genetic code injection. That's what I call that stuff from the very beginning. Remember that? I called it GCIs. I said genetic code injection. Don't take this genetic code injection. I didn't call it sugar water. That was Alex that did that. But we're going to have this custom genetic code injection for you
Starting point is 01:41:21 that's going to cure you of cancer. Well, maybe they don't know everything do they right they said this this guy says i'm 75 years old and i'm still functioning and i'm not showing any signs of alzheimer's and yet they had done a genetic test and told him that he was going to have alzheimer's before he turned 50 before he turned 50, but now he's 75. You know, insurance companies and other people also want to look at your genetics and make determinations about what they should charge you for health issues and things like that. You've got people who have, women who've had mastectomies because they say, well, genetically I'm predisposed to having
Starting point is 01:42:05 breast cancer or whatever. Maybe they don't know. Maybe we give too much credit to science. Now, a team of scientists is trying to understand how Whitney's brain has defied his genetic destiny. Genetics are not our destiny. And when you look at this and you say that genetics is destiny, that's the kind of attitude that leads to the abortion of Down's kids. You don't know what their destiny is. You don't know what the destiny is of some child who's got a very severe disease, but their life quality may not be what you would like for it to be.
Starting point is 01:42:48 It may not be healthy, but who are you to take away that spark of life from them? And so that's the first thing. Genetics are not destiny. The second thing is maybe the scientists don't know as much as they think they know, right? The scientists are trying to understand how, when they look at these genetic markers that are supposed to have him have Alzheimer's by the time he's 50, how does he not have Alzheimer's when he's 75? Well, maybe you don't know what's going on.
Starting point is 01:43:18 Have the humility to say that the science is not settled, that you don't know everything, and then have the humility to say that God has the final say in everything. One last article here. This is from the New York Times. Headline, got my attention, Seeking God or Peter Thiel in Silicon Valley.
Starting point is 01:43:41 Do the people in Silicon Valley think there's a difference between God and Thiel? That's the question, I guess. This guy who is a transhumanist, who is part of the Technate, and of course the transhumanists are the people and says, we're going to merge with machines. How is he somebody who is giving speeches about God? They said everything clicked when Peter Thiel gave this speech about God. The occasion was a 40th birthday party for Trey Stevens, who is Mr. Thiel's venture capital partner, as well as one of the founders of Engwill Industries.
Starting point is 01:44:16 This is an AI weapon, a high-tech weapons industry. His business is killing. Maker of high-tech defense systems. It was a multi-day affair held in 2023 at Mr. Stevens' home in New Mexico. Mr. Thiel, the Silicon Valley billionaire and right-wing kingmaker, delivered
Starting point is 01:44:36 a talk about miracles, forgiveness, and Jesus Christ. And then we go to another group. He talks about how we're going to merge with machines like Elon Musk. Well, the room of over 220 people, mostly in technology and venture capital, were coming up to us and saying, I didn't know Peter Thiel was a Christian. He's gay and a billionaire. How can he be a Christian? Well, I guess Christ would say, why do you call me Lord and not do what I say? But even more importantly, this is a guy who is just bristling with satanic pride.
Starting point is 01:45:12 Going back to Genesis and the Garden of Eden, you will become like God and you will live forever. That's what the transhumanists are still selling, that fundamental lie. It is a satanic lie. This is a guy who is totally embedded in that, as Elon Musk is. And yet, he portrays himself as a Christian? In what way? The non-profit hosted another talk, this one by Dr. Francis Collins, the former director of the National Institutes of Health, who has long talked about how he reconciles science with his Christian faith.
Starting point is 01:45:48 How does he do it? Well, he denies the Bible and he elevates evolution. He subordinates God to his idea of what science is. And of course, he was at the Human Genome Project before he became the head of the NIH. He presided over this vaccine pandemic stuff that murdered millions of people. Talk to me about Francis Collins being a Christian. He died in the wool, set against God for decades before all this stuff rolled out. And he still puts himself out there as an authority on following Christ.
Starting point is 01:46:23 So this group, they call themselves acts 17 the acronym is acknowledging christ and technology and society um are you going to acknowledge christ if you're a christian or do you follow christ that's the question uh the demons know who he is and they tremble these people acknowledge him in Silicon Valley. Well, isn't that special? I think we've realized that if anything, the rich, the wealthy, the powerful need Jesus just as much. Was that Paula White? Make me prosperous. That's her good news. That's her gospel is that she can get rich uh but no she's not involved with that group the
Starting point is 01:47:05 bay area is one of the least church-going parts of america where people have been more apt to meet their spiritual longings with meditation intermittent fasting or cold plunges an episode of the hbo show silicon valley once satirized this with a gay entrepreneur aghast at being outed as a Christian. Silicon Valley, that's the, well, certainly that's not anything unusual about Hollywood. Oh no, they outed me as a Christian. Now my career is over. People exert dominion over everything from fertility to outer space. The divine has seemed to be somewhat obsolete. See, this is the pride. This is the pride of the transhumanists, of the technate. They act as if they are God. This is why we should be very concerned about them. Thiel has long been an exception to the atheism and the agnosticism. In a recent podcast, he says that Christian faith is at the center of his worldview.
Starting point is 01:48:01 Is that why he has a singularity society? Don't give me that. Don't give me that. He's split from the very first chapter of the book from Christ. In recent podcast interviews, he draws on biblical prophecies to warn of an antichrist. Oh, yeah, he would know about that, wouldn't he? Who will promise safety from existential threats like AI and nuclear war, but bring something much worse, a one-world government. He's looking at this stuff like a Nostradamus thing, right? This is a trap even for Christians, let alone people who are focused on transhumanism.
Starting point is 01:48:40 A lot of Christians become so focused on this that it's all just about, oh, well, let's look at this and spend all of our time in Revelation instead of looking at the fact that it was a revelation of the Lord Jesus Christ. It's not revelations about the end of the world. And they don't really want to know or follow Christ. They want to know what's going to happen with the end of the world and world government and all the rest of the stuff. Other tech and entertainment gurus like Joe Rog Rogan, have talked about the importance of faith in multiple podcast episodes, saying that he's been pretty much an atheist, but now he's kind of open to it.
Starting point is 01:49:14 Isn't that interesting how we try to focus on celebrities to validate our parking? Our parking on where we're parked. Hey, I'm parked as a Christian here, and I need to have some celebrities who say that they're following Christ to validate this. Or I need to have Peter Thiel who's going to validate this stuff. You know, Jesus didn't go to the Peter Thiels of the world,
Starting point is 01:49:38 did he? He didn't go to the celebrities either. He went to the lowly fishermen, and he went to the tax collectors who were despised. So Rogan said a lot of very intelligent people dismiss all the positive aspects of religion. Is that what it's about? It's about cleaning up your life? Well, that's the fruit. It's not the root of it you see you can't really have just just like richard dawkins he loves the he loves the fruit of christianity you know he loves
Starting point is 01:50:13 the you know the big gothic buildings and he loves the christian songs and the carols at christmas time and he just doesn't like christ, you can't have the fruit of something if you've cut it off from its root. These people are looking at it, and they understand that if you follow the instructions that God has given us for our life, it works out better for us. That's for us individually as well as a society,
Starting point is 01:50:39 but they don't want to have anything to do with that. Elon Musk, in a recent interview with Jordan Peterson, said he is a big believer in the principles of Christianity. Well, you know, even that won't save you. Christ will save you, not the principles, not the rules, not the this or that. When you look at the Bible, they said it's all about supporting the poor, helping the other, inviting the stranger in. Yes, but that's not the basis of your relationship.
Starting point is 01:51:08 That is something that helps you as much as it helps the people that you're helping. But that's not the basis of your relationship. They said there's a certain attitude with some evangelicals that when you accept Jesus as your Savior, you're saved. And then you don't have to worry. Well, you better worry because if you're a child of God, God disciplines his children. You want to get a spanking? I'll just jump to this because I'm starting to run out of time here. But there was this meeting of Elon Musk in the office with Donald Trump, we saw something about a child that needs
Starting point is 01:51:47 some discipline there. But I just want to say, you know, when you look at this, a lot of these people are coming up again with their religious duties. What do we need to do? You know, be approved by God. Well, salvation is a gift. And the wages of sin are death. You can't work your way.
Starting point is 01:52:04 And Bloomberg says, I've done so much good. If there is a heaven, I'm going straight in, right? No, he's not. It's not based. Nobody can earn their salvation. It is a gift. And we don't bring it in the back door either. We don't bring our earning or salvation back in the back door either.
Starting point is 01:52:25 You don't look at, well, how am I doing? You look at yourself and, how am I doing? Well, you should look at yourself in the mirror, but not with the understanding of this is how I'm going to be approved or not approved. That's based on your trust in what Christ has told us. But let's take a real quick look at this. I'm going to skip forward to this meeting in the White House because we're talking about God disciplining his children. And there is a child here that needed some serious disciplining, but I don't know if he got it or not. This is, let me skip back a little bit here i wasn't planning to go to this just yet so this is um uh elon musk kid keeps saying weird stuff about trump he was in the office this little kid is named x x this is the kid that he had with this pop singer grimes or something his um the four-year-old child is named x and then they've got um a and e combined i don't know how to pronounce
Starting point is 01:53:34 that x e a x i i and so as a they shorten that up and just call him X. And so he's there in the Oval Office with Trump. And in the video, you can see and actually hear him say, lean over to Trump and say, I want you to shut your mouth. This four-year-old kid. And then he said some other things that were more difficult to make out but certainly sounded odd at one point for instance little x sounds like he's saying you're not the president and you need to go away he's going to wish him into the cornfield just like a little kid into the twilight zone uh his mother was alerted to his appearance in the oval office on social media,
Starting point is 01:54:25 and she didn't seem to be terribly pleased. She said, he shouldn't be in public like this. I didn't see it. Thank you for alerting me. But I'm glad that he was polite. Was he polite? He is to restore democracy. This is from one year to the next are the same.
Starting point is 01:54:43 Wow. That kid. are the same and they're and they're wow that kid uh that that's gonna be if not the richest person on earth when he grows up one of the richest people on earth uh they're raising a little monster there you know we talked about the uh spoiled brats in china where they have a one-child policy and they call them little emperors uh maybe they should rename him little emperor. Or I don't know, baron or something. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:55:08 I'm not saying that baron is like that. But that kid is amazing. It's amazing. And you talk about, when I look at that, it's like, we need to go outside here. And if you ever hear about a spanking, that's what we need to talk to. Elon Musk came out with that kid. He definitely needs that. I mean, it was, you know, he's saying that to Trump and Trump just looks away.
Starting point is 01:55:30 You know, I mean, that was absolutely amazing. Whistler says, I thought the name X was referring to the actions of believers. It makes sense that this would change the meaning of it, given what they've seen of their actions. Yeah, I agree. Syrian Girl says, putting the Ten Commandments in the schools but leaving the pagan teachers in charge is like what happened in Rome when Christianity was declared the state religion. Yeah. Yeah, that's one of the reasons why it's wise to separate from that. And, you know, Elon Musk would do well to understand that he has a duty to raise this i
Starting point is 01:56:07 don't know who's raising that kid but that kid's got some real problems absolutely amazing to see that well we're going to take a break and uh when we come back we're going to uh talk to brian mock uh he is another j6er and his story, all of their stories are different. Brian had some interesting twists in his story. He defended himself and as part of defending himself, he was able to find some stuff in discovery that was very interesting. And he leaked that out while he was there in prison and now he can tell people that he was the one who leaked it out. So we're going to take a quick break and we will be right back. Stay with us. ¶¶ © transcriptF-WATCH TV 2021 Liberty. It's your move and now the david knight show is one of the j6ers and he's got a very interesting story and as all of them do and
Starting point is 01:58:43 every story is different. And so he is somebody who was a VP of sales and marketing for a landscaping company in Twin Cities prior to J6, father of four boys. And he went to Washington, D.C. on J6. And we'll let him tell you why he went and what happened when he was there. Thank you for joining us, Brian. Thanks for having me on. Appreciate it. Well, I think Brian. Thanks for having me on. I appreciate it. Well, I think it's important to have you on. As I've said, every time I have somebody from J6,
Starting point is 01:59:13 whatever anybody thinks about J6, we need to think about our Justice Department, about due process and the Constitution, and how this politicized persecution of people that were their political opponents, how heinous that was. And you're also involved in trying to make that right as well. So we're going to talk about that coming up. But first, tell us why you went on J6. Yeah, I guess first off, I would tell all of your listeners, anything that you've seen about January 6 is a flat-out utter lie. I dive deep into the Jan 6 committee's propaganda, and literally they have left out 120 extremely important minutes of that entire day. And that's actually where
Starting point is 01:59:55 my charges came from, was that 125 minutes out of that 120 minutes. So I get people that might be skeptical of me or of other people that were there and go, well, you shouldn't have violence against police, but I'll start with letting you know, everything that you have heard. And I mean, everything is an utter lie. So if you can keep your mind open for the next, you know, 40 ish minutes, you're going to hear some things you probably have never heard before. Yeah. Go ahead. Go ahead. Sorry. So going back to Jan 6, the reason I showed up there, first off, I was never that political. I referred to myself as being painfully aware. I knew what was going on in the country. At least I thought I did. Having gone through this, not close, but I knew the
Starting point is 02:00:41 corruption. I knew the things that we see coming out right now in USAID. We all really knew it. It's just it's a different thing seeing it firsthand and having that open up in front of you and going, hey, us crazy conspiracy theorists. We were all right for all these years. We've been trying to tell you. And so that kind of opens you up to go, well what else was was going on here so um it's going to be an amazing four years if the first three weeks uh are any indicators so you know going back to jan 6 it was one of these things where we had just gone through all the covert lockdowns i had been fighting with walls while my business was shut down for a few weeks we'd managed to actually uh prove our that that we were essential and get to go back to
Starting point is 02:01:27 work. But we were still fighting through those things. And so you look at a year where I was in Minneapolis and I had watched the Floyd riots firsthand. And I saw the lies that the media had told through that. Things that me and my neighbors had experienced and my clients were nothing compared to what they were showing. So that was one of the things that kind of started me down this path. And then, you know, I watched what happened during our election. I had my own Facebook censored on a regular basis because I dared to question the narrative that was put out there. So as that all progressed, I got to the point where I heard about January 6th. I saw that we had permits to be at the Capitol. And what I was really looking
Starting point is 02:02:12 to do is I had dived down into this and looked at all the politicians that were backing, you know, over 100 congressmen and senators that were saying they were going to vote to decertify that election and use the provisions within the Constitution to send that back to those respective states to investigate and make their decision on what they were going to do with their electoral votes. And so we were there, you know, I would say a vast majority, 99.9% of the people who were there were there for those same reasons. And that was to have a show of a million people to show those congressmen and senators when they looked out their window and were having to go through and vote and stand up, which was not an easy thing to do, that they had the support of the people there. This wasn't just a Donald Trump thing. I wouldn't
Starting point is 02:03:04 have been there if it was just for him. So that's why i got in my truck with my best friend and a gal that i've been dating for about 30 days jumped in the vehicle with us last minute and we drove through the night and showed up there uh in the evening on january 5th and started off to the the ellipse and did she get in trouble uh the the one who went with you no neither of the two that went with me got in any kind of trouble um they were in the same area um actually the the uh doj tried to turn both of them against me they never were able to bring them as witnesses but they did uh use her uh as a reason to lock me up pre-trial so i was detained at the dc gulag for a year based on lies that they said it was basically they were using hearsay and looking back at it
Starting point is 02:03:52 literally she didn't really turn on me they just used their questioning of her to claim that i might be a danger to um to obstruct justice by tampering with her, which had no validity. That's actually what led to me getting out was we were able to prove that what they said at the first bond hearing was another lie and, um, the government had no answer to it, they just, they literally just said, well, we still object to Mr. Mott being, uh, uh, released, but I was one of the only ones that got out of the Gulag after being detained. So selectively, uh, using her comments, just like they selectively use the video footage right
Starting point is 02:04:29 so that type of thing and we've seen that over and over again especially in political trials um and i'd covered a lot of political trials i went back to the bundy ranch and that type of thing i i knew how they would railroad people that they wanted to i get and i warned people um who were listening to me at the time i said don't go to january 6th it's a trap it's going to be uh provocateurs you know and and i did everything i could to warn people but i got fired for warning people about that but um anyway so you're there january 6th so then what happens on january 6th so uh the morning we showed up there at six in the morning and there was already
Starting point is 02:05:11 hundreds of thousands of people had shown up that early um it was unbelievable so the numbers were drastically bigger than their official narrative of what eight to twenty thousand um there was a sea of people i grew up in the dc area and that's the biggest crowd i've ever seen in dc it was it was monstrous and um everybody was peaceful we were walking around talking with people from all over the country. Everybody's in a festive mood. They're playing music, praying, singing. We're listening to, you know, various speakers talk before Trump. And then Trump came up. We already all knew we were going to the Capitol. And that's one of the things that they never mentioned in his speech is that he said, I know that you're planning on going to the Capitol, and we're going to go do the peacefully and patriotically march down there.
Starting point is 02:05:51 And that was the plan, and that had always been the plan. And so I listened close to the end of his speech. We left just before it finished because we were down towards the Capitol end, and it was hard to hear whenever anyone cheered. So we kind of wrapped it up and started meandering towards the the uh capital uh stopped for something to eat quick at a food truck and then um walked up towards the lower west terrace where a bunch of people were gathered and then quite literally walked into a war zone um what do you think about the fact that he didn't go down to the capital what do you think about that um i'm not surprised yeah in retrospect i mean to the size of the crowd and what secret service would actually have to do to ensure his safety um it was just unrealistic uh from a
Starting point is 02:06:39 logistic standpoint i don't think they they really could made it happen. I think they made the right call on that because they couldn't have done their job. There is no way. So I don't blame him for not going. I think he wanted to. But, you know, the Secret Service works. That's weeks in preparation to ensure the safety. So they did their job. What do you think about, you said you struggled with the pandemic and you were upset about that.
Starting point is 02:07:06 And the fact that the BLM was allowed to run riot literally without any of the restrictions on there. What do you think about that and about the vote by mail and everything? Because that all happened under Trump. How did you feel about that? Yeah, I thought it was another sham. You know, watching Trump was in this terrible spot, quite frankly, with all of the COVID shutdowns. Right. You know, this was widely being done, you know, by governors. And we saw the disparity in certain states, you know, some that remain pretty much wide open versus ones with these massive lockdowns and, you know, in draconian measures. I was in a state where walls, you know, definitely here in Minnesota went pretty draconian. I'm actually sitting in one of the restaurants that refused to shut down, Larvita McFarquhar.
Starting point is 02:08:00 They tried to put her in a work farm because she refused to bend the knee and kept her business open. Well, you've seen, though, that the president has a great deal of leverage when it comes to money. For example, Obama would take away funds if you didn't put boys in the girls' bathroom. And Trump said, I'm going to take away your funds if you do put boys in the girls' bathroom. So they have a tremendous amount of leverage with money if they fund it they can control it and the money was going to all these governors and regardless of whether they were good or bad they kept the flow of money going to what do you think about that um i think we were we were at the time i think there was uh there was a lot of evil at work and that's being um that's being slowly brought to the surface.
Starting point is 02:08:47 And I think over the course of the next year or two, we're going to see what was really at play there. And I think Trump, quite frankly, I think Trump was trying to do the best he could through all that. I think we were being fed a lot. I think we were all being, this was all a setup. I think this was all being used to get Trump. And whether it was whether it came out accidentally or whatever, whatever, it definitely was used. Or if it was just a plan all the way along. I'm not going to go down complete conspiracy theory road because I don't know. And neither does do most people out in the public. But I think at the end of the day, yeah, there was mismanagement all the way around.
Starting point is 02:09:26 I think in retrospect, with the team he's got around him right now, I don't think that that would happen the same way. Yeah, I think you'll change it up a little bit and do the same thing. So we disagree on that. But let's talk about what happened with the aftermath of this, because I think what we both agree on is the criminal actions, the Biden administration, the Department of Justice. But I got to say, I've seen this going through whether it's Democrat or
Starting point is 02:09:51 Republican. I've seen this type of stuff happening for the longest time. I've seen the FBI since its inception doing this kind of politicized persecution. So this is institutional rot that has been there as a bipartisan rot that's been there. But it's manifested itself in a whole new magnitude with the J6 stuff and the 1,500 or so people that they got and their dragnet. So let's talk about then when and how you got arrested. It was about six months later, right? Five or six months later. Yep. And let me just real quick.
Starting point is 02:10:24 Oh, you're talking about what happened. Yeah, we didn't talk about what happened. Yeah, let me hit this and then I'll do it as quick as possible. Yeah. So I'm on the Lower West Terrace. And basically, looking back at video, I showed up roughly a half hour into when, you know, quote unquote, violence occurred. What really happened that day is there was a group of people that showed up on the Lower West Terrace and were lined up in front of Capitol Police officers, the ones that are trained, clad all in riot gear and trained to handle crowds of that size, because this happens all the time.
Starting point is 02:10:56 There's protests every week in D.C. So the entire group of protesters were lined up across from the police. They make it seem like, oh, there's this outer breach of the snow fence, and all of a sudden this up across from the police they make it seem like oh there's this outer breach of the snow fence and all of a sudden this group just attacked the capitol and overwhelmed police that wasn't close to what happened what they were doing is standing right in front of these officers big group of people roughly 3 000 to start and then everybody else had showed up from the capitol and as they're standing there, they're talking, and this is going on for probably 10, 15 minutes, nothing is happening. And there was one little
Starting point is 02:11:31 pushing match between basically three guys who, quite frankly, were probably itching for a fight. Who knows if they were drunk or otherwise, because out of hundreds of thousands of million people, you're going to get a few idiots. Sure. But the Capitol Police were handling that. It was just a little push. But from up top, the next level on the inaugural stage, the Metro PD was there, and they were ordered to open fire into the crowd.
Starting point is 02:11:57 So they started shooting rubber bullets and balls down into the crowd. And you'll see Joshua Black get shot in the face, got a big hole there, there's blood on the ground and then the metro pd comes down and they grab these bike racks out from underneath of the scaffolding and start using those as weapons to shove into people start pushing the crowd in this crowd that's coming up from the capitol and they're shoving back and at that point they started indiscriminately tasing people they started throwing flash bangs they're shoving back. And at that point, they started indiscriminately tasing people. They started throwing flashbangs or beating people. They're shooting OC spray.
Starting point is 02:12:32 They start showing throwing tear gas into the crowd. And basically, we're all stuck in this little little fishbowl. And we're all begging the police to stop. And this goes on for roughly 120 minutes before people are finally. And that isn't been shown to the public at all um you know you can find bits and pieces online and those exist but um they literally made coerced us into signing a protective order that said that we would not release any of our evidence to the public so they scared us with getting more charges if we showed this to the public meanwhile they cherry picked anything they could to put out there
Starting point is 02:13:05 and show that we were these violent insurrectionists, and that just simply wasn't the fact at all. So my whole charges stemmed from one push on a shield with an officer who I'd actually been leading officers out of this doorway as the Lower West Terrace kind of fell, and I'm patting officers on the back. I'm communicating with them i tried to pick one up off the ground um not being violent in any way shape or form and actually keeping a distance from them but you know keeping keeping pace with them as they're leaving
Starting point is 02:13:36 so that they have a little bit of pressure to leave and get out of there because i've been watching them beat the crap out of old men and women for the last yeah hour and over an hour so one officer that I come to after I've led these out, he says something to me, which I honestly do not remember at this point, but my hands go up. You can see it in the video. My hands go up and I step back and then he threatened to shoot me and his hand comes off his shield and comes down to his right side. And instinctively, I just reached out and pushed the shield. Unfortunately, he was standing on another shield at the time. His foot slips and he falls down.
Starting point is 02:14:09 Well, to my right is the entire press corps. So I've got Fox News, CNN, MSN, BBC all taking video of this. And then so that push became one of the images of this incredible violence on January 6th. And I've been saying for years that he threatened to shoot me and i actually found the body cam of the guy next to him and you can hear you can't hear the first part but you hear the end of saying or i'll shoot and that's when just after that my hands contact the shield and he slips so they literally took that one clip it took them five months to build a bs narrative around following me all around the
Starting point is 02:14:46 capitol and they took a still frame picture of my foot off the ground when i had gone down to try to pick up an officer and missed him in this whole melee i was trying to pick him up and i'd pick somebody else up but in the process of stepping away from that officer my foot was up off the ground for a moment because i was slipping on a flagpole. And I put my hand on another guy and they took the still frame of my foot off the ground and said I'd kicked this officer. And so that's what they used to charge me to be like, oh, there were multiple counts of violence. Someone claimed that I was home. I had said that I was bragging about beating the shit out of six officers and I was in the Capitol and destroying things.
Starting point is 02:15:30 Well, what they did is they left the in the Capitol and destroying things out of that statement, knowing that I never went in the Capitol and used the, oh, he's at home bragging about beating the shit out of cops as this thing to hold me in jail pre-trial. So they had initially, when they came and arrested me, I was put in front of the Minnesota magistrate. She ruled me released. And before they could do that, they appealed, the DOJ appealed it to the chief judge in DC who started screaming at me in court, calling me a leader, holding me single-handed, the responsible for making America a laughingstock, and claimed there were no conditions that could be placed upon me where the general public would be safe if i was released and so then i was trans you know shackled hand and feet and transported across the country flown
Starting point is 02:16:15 con air into dc and thrown into the gulag wow and that started that that wasn't even the worst, that started my persecution in this whole thing. And I've been in places reporting, I've seen the police do exactly that type of thing. Initiate the force and start attacking the crowd and that type. And then, you know, statements going back and forth, they're yelling that they're going to shoot at somebody. And then they deny that they're, they yelled that they're going to shoot you with this and so forth. So I've seen that type of thing. It's not unusual, but this is very unusual
Starting point is 02:16:49 in terms of how extensive the persecutions were and how draconian they were and how unfair they were there in the DC gulag. So that's what happened from your perspective there. And you also were able to get the footage. And we're going to talk about that coming up. But so they arrest you in Minnesota. They bring you back to the D.C. Gulag.
Starting point is 02:17:12 And how long were you there in the D.C. Gulag before your trial? Well, I was approximately a year pre-trial before a combination of Minnesota getting transferred and being in the Gulag. So I don't know the exact dates, but roughly a year pre-trial, a couple of Minnesota getting transferred and being in the gulag. So I don't know the exact dates, but roughly a year pre-trial, a couple of months in transfer, and then a majority of that year was spent in the gulag. They initially threw me in with Gen Pop. They were supposed to have us in an individual pod of just Jan Sixers. Now, I didn't know any of them existed. And I had been talking with some other guys on the transport in Oklahoma, and after hearing the story and hearing me talk, they go, well, you're intelligent enough. You can figure this out to represent yourself. Your lawyer isn't recommend it to anyone. However, in our situation, it actually worked out better that some landscaper from Minnesota was a better lawyer than any single one I could find in the whole process of this. So I get to D.C. and they threw me in with 120 black guys, told them all I was racist, extremist and dangerous.
Starting point is 02:18:23 And then they opened up the the cells and let us mingle oh great so i figured i was gonna die there um i literally had to fight from day one in there i watched people getting stabbed in front of me i watched the the officers lynch people in there um they were responsible for murders they brought in drugs it was it was it's one of the worst jails in america um they were setting up these guys to try to at least beat me at best. Kill me. Well, there's like you saw somebody lynched in the jail. Absolutely. Multiples. There was one guy that was killed and so next to me just before I showed up. And they still had that taped off. And then they were trying to do it to a young black
Starting point is 02:19:05 kid a 19 year old who they they hated and if they hated you then they singled you out and and went after you so is this lynching being done by the the mob that was in there the the black mob that was there or was it the guards the guards and the guards would single out certain people they wanted and they would they would send uh certain inmates after those people um and so yeah i stood up to the guards when they went after this young kid and uh they were withholding his seizure medication from him and they get him worked up and then they videotape him getting worked up so they had excuse to pop the cells and go in and beat him up spray him and drag him off to uh to the hole and so i stood up to them, and drag them off to the hole.
Starting point is 02:19:47 And so I stood up to them. We had some choice words, and we had a little Mexican standoff there between the three of them, and I called them out for being racist. They didn't know what to make of a white guy calling them racist. So I'm up there calling them racist and saying, you know, I told them they get off killing young black kids, and the next thing I know, every guy in there is banging on their cells and going off and the guards eyes get all big like oh we screwed up on this one and so they kind of slink off and the door closes and i'm out out in the hall while everybody else is locked up and all of them are putting their hand through the the meal slot and they don't
Starting point is 02:20:19 want to shake your hand i've never seen a white guy stand up for a black guy like that and they were they're calling me a hero and all this stuff. Like, Hey, if that was on YouTube, he'd be famous. And I'm like, well, does anybody got that on tape? Cause I could use that right now. And then I asked him, yeah, is anybody here going to get a mess with me? And they're like, Oh no, you're cool. Now you're just light skin. So and the funny thing was when I told them about, you know, the persecution and stuff they're doing, every single one of those guys in there agreed with me um because they have been uh you know they've been living themselves for how long and they know what the system is so um yeah so basically in that time i thought i was going to die at one point and i broke down in solitary i was in my own cell and i just broke down i said
Starting point is 02:21:03 god get me out of here. And he answered me. There were two times that God spoke to me in there and they were both in solitary. And that was one of them where he answered me and he said, you have all the talents and abilities to get yourself out. I was like, it's not the answer. Send me Superman or a super lawyer. I'll take either one, but don't put this on me. And so I stepped out in faith. And two days later, I went in and I fired my attorney. I said, I want to represent myself. And they brought me back in a week after that for a Ferretta hearing to determine if I was competent and able to defend myself. And on the way there, I met my first other Jan Sixer,
Starting point is 02:21:40 which is Brandon Fellows, the other guy in that gulag who was defending himself or in the process of making that happen. And so he tells me, hey, we've got this separate pod you're supposed to be in. So I managed to have a sit in and get myself there. And that's when I got the one piece of discovery. It was 850 pages that actually showed it was a report of um police report doj police reports of alleged misconduct it was officers who they had alleged had misconduct and it wasn't officers that were beating people it was the ones that weren't beating people it was the ones that were yeah they were looking for the quote-unquote inside man of january 6th so they were interviewing
Starting point is 02:22:22 these ones that were taking pictures with people and fist bumping, and they weren't doing enough to beat them. So these guys were defending themselves, and their own words, their narrative was counter to the entire BS narrative that was put out by the media and the politicians and the DOJ. And so in that, I found that there were 50 of these that were supposed to be there. But at most most they only gave us 27 of them. There's 23. There's 27 missing. And I asked for these repeatedly, and no one would turn them over. So these were damning, and I put out a motion. I hand-wrote a motion on paper three times in triplicate, filed it.
Starting point is 02:23:01 It got thrown out, of course, because it didn't make a legal argument. But my whole point in that, in the last three pages of that motion, was that I said, basically wrote about our conditions, that I didn't have access to discovery. They refused to give me my discovery. They refused to give me access to any legal materials. They refused to give me access to even call my standby attorney. They weren't allowing video visits. They weren't allowing basically anything. They didn't allow haircuts. They didn't allow us.
Starting point is 02:23:31 Now, every other inmate had that except us. We couldn't get haircuts. We weren't getting basic hygiene. They were withholding food. At times, they turned off water in our cells for punitive reasons. They didn't allow video visits. They didn't allow lawyers in half the time um and all i had at one point to defend myself against the full weight and might of the federal government
Starting point is 02:23:50 was a pen a piece of paper and a pocket constitution that i had traded some food for and uh so i i wrote about let me interject you know when you're talking about the fact you know you can't get your haircut can't get uh basic. These pro-lifers who just got out, they said they went without toilet paper while they had some trainees that were there, and they were getting lipstick and perfume and all the rest of this stuff. They wouldn't even give the pro-life. I mean, you talk about a politicized system from the courtroom to the jail. That is the essence of it.
Starting point is 02:24:23 And so, yeah, absolutely. I'm sure that that happened to you guys as well. Yeah. Yeah. It's insane. The two-tier justice system is alive and well. And so we have been fighting with the jail to get our discovery was the biggest thing that we're focused on is just get us our evidence. And so at one point point i ended up having a kind of a sit-in because i was demanding my evidence and a lieutenant came up ordered me in my cell and i said not till i talk to this captain and get my discovery it's been you know six months or so and so in response this uh lieutenant ordered everybody else back in their cells which they did i refused And because I refused, they sprayed me with OC spray. She followed me around the entire unit spraying so much. So she over, she sprayed herself. What is OC spray?
Starting point is 02:25:12 What is OC? Basically like bear spray or pepper spray. Just they use the really, the really hyped up version. So it's, it's awful. It was so bad that three guys who were in their cells got overcome by it and had to go to the infirmary. She called the ERT team after she sprayed me. They beat me, threw me in solitary, and I sat in solitary confinement for over 100 days because I demanded my discovery. And for those 100 days, I continually went into court and kept telling the judge I don't have my discovery. And the prosecution would say, no, the jail says he has it. And so the prosecution and the jail were working together because what they wanted was us to sign a plea deal. I had a 30 to 36-month plea deal on the table. All I had to do was say that everything they said was true, plead out to
Starting point is 02:26:00 something I didn't do, and tell them that Trump made me do it. And I could go to a different jail. I'd go to a different prison. I would get, you know, humanely treated. I'd be taken out solitary, all that. And I refused to do it. And so week after week, I'd go in court and the judge would say, where's your discovery? I said, I haven't got it. Prosecutor would say, no, he does have it. And it got to the point where the general counsel was ordered into my hearing. And 30 minutes before my Zoom meeting, all of a sudden, a computer shows up with my discovery so that the general counsel could go in there and say, oh, we just got it. It was human error. Oopsies.
Starting point is 02:26:46 And so in that hearing, I said, your honor, by international standards, anything more than 15 days in solitary is considered torture and I ran through the litany of all my civil rights that had been infringed upon and the fact that my the constitution didn't exist in my case that I was literally being tortured by our federal government and I said well you know more than 15 days by international standards is considered torture and I can continue to be tortured by my government and I don't know how much longer I can hold out mentally because solitary confinement does indeed break you and make you insane or I can take your unfair trial now you have pushed my trial against my objections I've requested a speedy trial from day one you've kept pushing that off I said do not do it again set this trial or you or I can't endure this treatment anymore. So he set the trial. Within 36 business hours, they removed me from solitary and
Starting point is 02:27:32 put me back in with the other Jan Sixers. How long did they give you to then, so then he's going to set a trial. How long did he give you to take a look at the discovery that you had just gotten? About 90 days. I never had the trial at that point. It ended up getting pushed off for two more years. And that was because I managed to make bond in that timeframe. So I was able to show that the government had lied egregiously in my case at the first bond hearing. And he ended up granting me bond. Now, the interesting thing is in between these are several months where the government screwed up and actually opened up the Evidence.com database, the entire thing to those of us who were in the Gulag. who was representing 20 some odd Jan Sixers, their legal team, after about 10 minutes on the phone, offered me a job to come in and work for them because they were like, I'd seen more evidence
Starting point is 02:28:30 than anybody in the world at that point outside of the DOJ. And we had the protective order, which I'm fine saying now, because I'd love the DOJ to come after me at this point. I went and leaked a bunch of this evidence to the Epoch Times. And that was the story that came out about there being undercovers at Jan 6, and they're identified by this rainbow bracelet on their left wrist. That led to Christopher Wray having to come back in front of Congress and being like, oh, oopsies, about that whole not having undercovers there. Well, we might have had some. And then it progressed to, you know, you know oh well maybe 20 um and some other stories that came out that were a lot of different uh there are a lot of different sources that as
Starting point is 02:29:11 this information's kind of trickled in about jan 6th uh the conspiracy that did exist in the setup of january 6th the day of and then the subsequent cover-up all of those things really did stem from information that I was able to smuggle out of the gulag. How did you get it out? On a flash drive. I downloaded a bunch of stuff that I wasn't supposed to be able to download because they screwed up. The jail isn't that competent.
Starting point is 02:29:38 They screwed up and gave me the wrong computer that had ability to download, and I downloaded everything that I possibly could. A couple other guys have done similar things. Brandon Fellows has more discovery that he downloaded than anybody's seen. And all of this points to the fact that this was a setup. I came out day one on the very first podcast I went on and said Nancy Pelosi is directly responsible for what happened on January 6th. And I stand by that statement at this point. I actually have further evidence that she conspired with Milley, the FBI, Schumer, McConnell. There's a number of others that she worked directly with to remove security there and basically set sunned up the chief of police of the capitol police set him up to be the fall guy because they took all these different agencies that they combined
Starting point is 02:30:33 in the lead up to this and made him responsible for the intelligence which makes absolutely no sense when you've got the nsa and fbi involved why you would put the capitol police chief in charge of this and so once you see what happened with that and the pipe bombs that were coincidentally scheduled for one o'clock that weren't actually bombs that pulled people away from the Capitol and the fact that three days before January 6th, when Trump had offered the 10,000 troops that were turned down, she went to Milley at the Pentagon and made a change to how Sund could actually request troops. He could no longer call Sund directly. He had to go through the House Sergeant at Arms and the Senate Sergeant at Arms, who answered directly to Pelosi and Schumer. And so, when Jan 6, before it
Starting point is 02:31:19 ever popped off, while everybody's still in session, Pelosi was the first person removed from the Capitol and moved down to the bowels of the Capitol before anybody talked about a riot, before anybody was called out of session. She was the first one to be removed. And so when Sun called over to the Pentagon to seek help before anybody ever breached the Capitol building, he was told, he was denied and said that they didn't like the optics of sending troops over there to help. So he went back through the House and Senate Sergeant at Arms, which went directly to Pelosi and Schumer, who both denied him access to those troops. And that that continued throughout the day until 530 when they finally brought in troops they had exactly what they wanted wrapped it all up and uh had this whole false narrative wrapped up in a nice little neat bow and presented it to the american
Starting point is 02:32:09 people and subsequently uh hid any evidence to the contrary from the american people for the next four years and uh my goal right now is to get an investigation an actual investigation in jan 6 i've got a dozen people who have information that would blow your mind. And my goal right now, it's why I've been going to D.C. for the last two weeks, is to get in front of Congress and put this information out there so the American people can see what actually happened and who is directly responsible for what happened on January 6th. And it will absolutely blow your mind. It is the single biggest conspiracy in U.S. history. Well, that's good. I think that
Starting point is 02:32:45 needs to be exposed. Now, when you got this information from the Access to Discovery database, you were able to smuggle that out. Was that documents? I mean, was it video footage of what actually happened? Was it documents of communications between Pelosi and Milley and all these other people that were there? What exactly, how much of that have you put together from other sources and how much of that was what you got out of the discovery database? I brought out documents of flash drive, which actually a former reporter for the Epoch Times has. For whatever reason, and I really can't say, I know, but I can't say,
Starting point is 02:33:22 she was only able to do two reports on what she had of mine. So she still has that flash drive that she's shopping around a story right now on this. So if you go back and find that story about the Metro PD, the electronic surveillance unit in the Epoch Times, you'll figure out who that reporter is. I think it's worth giving her a call and maybe seeing what else she has there because there's some major stories. So what I was able to get out. I didn't want to do more, have her do any more than the two stories that she did.
Starting point is 02:33:57 Is that right? That's to my understanding. Yes. And you can. Well, that's interesting because, yeah, that's interesting because, you know, the other thing that we were told, and maybe you know more than I, My understanding, yes. And you can investigate why. Yeah, that's interesting because, you know, the other thing that we were told, and maybe you know more than that, I was under the impression that Tucker was able to get all the video footage and, you know,
Starting point is 02:34:15 he's going to have staff that was going to go through it and everything. That never happened. What is your understanding of that? That got shut down as well? I don't know why, but i have my suspicions there um the evidence that existed there was enough uh between that and the open source that was out there on sites like uh if you if you google what parlor saw on january 6 these are open source videos you put those together with what that those 14 000 and then actually it's more like 24 000 at this point
Starting point is 02:34:43 videos that the the government had you put those together there is absolutely no conclusion that you can come to other than the government uh opened fire on their citizens and and were responsible for exactly what happened on january 6th but further if you really go look at it we had a special ops guy in in the dc gulag and he said this is exactly what we did in other countries. And he was able, because he's trained to do it, to sit there and point out on these videos, here's a team right here, these three guys. And we were always like, Jeff, you're crazy. No, there isn't these three guys. And then we'd watch and see other videos. And all of a sudden,
Starting point is 02:35:17 we see them interacting with the police and behind police lines and whispering to them and pointing things out. And you actually, when you go through this, we have found no less than several dozen individuals who are clearly undercovers, who are clearly working with the police, and we're clearly orchestrating things, as well as others who have never been identified that were actually the ones causing damage on January 6th and breaking into the Capitol. A vast majority of these have been unidentified, but we see them all acting suspiciously. When we talk to people who work with the government, who've worked at high levels with CIA and things like that, all of them go, this is exactly how we're trained to operate.
Starting point is 02:36:01 This is an operational team right here. we know it um so those are things that need to get exposed so uh tucker absolutely dropped the ball on this at the very least um i think there potentially was something more nefarious going on with that but you know that's conjecture and i just won't go down well i think so too i mean you look at it and it's like clearly you know pelosi and these others were up to something i think though that it's like clearly, you know, Pelosi and these others are up to something. I think, though, that it's not simply just the Democrats who are doing it. I think there's a lot of people in the Republicans' side that have been participating in this as well. I think there was a lot of Republican media that was doing it. I think there was a lot of alternative right media that stopped the steal people.
Starting point is 02:36:39 And I think there was enticing people to go in it. And so I, you know, from the very beginning of this i was opposing this i could see this happening with the people that i was working with i was working with alex jones at the time i knew what stop the steal was about i knew the lies that they were putting out there two days after the election saying that it was a sting and that they already had 20 000 troops out there arresting people's like there's no way that's happening and you're setting people up because you want to make money out of this thing. So there's a lot of people that had their hands in this pie.
Starting point is 02:37:08 And it's not just Democrats. It's Democrats and Republicans. And it's not just the Democrat media that was setting people up using cherry-picking stuff that, as you talk about, clips. But it was also the Republican media and the alternative media that set people up and all this stuff. So it's a really big ball of wax. And so I hope you're able to unravel some of this and expose some of this for the public. Again, I'm not surprised at all that there were teams of agent provocateurs. And I said that
Starting point is 02:37:38 for months prior to that. And the day of, I was telling people, stay away. There's going to be agent provocateurs there. But what has happened in the aftermath of that is equally troubling because of the torture that we see that's happening there. And I've seen that again. In many cases, whenever you go up against the government and you blow the whistle on something or you are trying to establish a constitutional principle that they've run roughshod over, they will run roughshod over you for trying to expose that. So I've seen that over and over again with various issues. But then tell us a little bit about the trial that was there. What was it like representing yourself? Because a lot of times people represent themselves because they want
Starting point is 02:38:22 to use jury nullification. But of course, you're not going to find a sympathetic jury in D.C. So there's nothing there. It's just that you were doing it because your lawyer was so uninterested and incompetent. Yeah. So in the two years up to my actual trial, which was in summer of 23, June and June and bled into July, there was a break in there about two weeks but uh my attorney literally the court appointed attorney attorney i got about a little less than i want to say like six to seven months before my actual trial this guy uh offered no defense
Starting point is 02:38:59 he had no witnesses no evidence even though i had given had given him a ton. And his whole defense was to put me on the stand and let me talk, which wasn't actually the worst thing in the world. But he had said 999 times out of 1000, he wanted the judge to know as little about his client as possible. He said I was the one exception where he wanted the judge to know as much about me as possible. So for whatever good that is, I took it as a compliment. And so but then he got into trial and he just he he crapped the bed so hard in a day and a half that I finally he lied about me in front of the judge. And I had to he had already done his damage i i lost the ability to cross examine some people that it should have happened i wish i had dumped him day one but he i i stood
Starting point is 02:39:51 up in court fired him and then represented myself i flew in all my own witnesses on my own dime that night pulled together whatever evidence i could quickly pulled some witnesses off the street and jumped in the next day I knew if I got through the end of the day and didn't rest that I would have a two-week period because the court was booked I'd have a two-week period to put together some more evidence come back in and and put together some semblance of a case so I got my kid on the stand an ex-girlfriend on the stand and Tommy Tatum of all people was in town and i put him on the stand um but what we ultimately were able to do was for the first time we got on the record that
Starting point is 02:40:31 roseanne boylan was murdered by u.s capitol police officer lila morris and that had been um every single time that that was someone wanted that brought on the record it got shut down by the government in my case was the first one that that got on. So that was kind of cool. And then just the process of, it was actually kind of fun up there trying to defend myself. And to his credit, my judge was actually pretty cool with me. And I think after a while of three years of watching this, because what the government did is when I turned down their 30 to 36 month plea deal, they went and got a superseding indictment. So they tacked on the 1512 obstruction, a bogus deadly and dangerous obstruction charge, a deadly and dangerous assault, and then another bogus assault just to fluff it all up. And so I went from a 30 to 36-month sentencing guideline range to like 20 years, and all my misdemeanors were enhanced to felonies.
Starting point is 02:41:25 So I rolled into court with 12 felonies, beat the one deadly and dangerous charge. Cause it was a joke. I was getting hit with a flagpole and I reached up and a piece broke off in my hand and I tossed it out of my hand into an area where nobody was. So the judge to his credit, literally laughed it out of the courtroom. Did you have video evidence of that or show that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so it was just a joke and, uh yeah show that yeah yeah yeah and so it was just a joke and uh but that was what they were doing what they were trying to do is go hey if you turn down our plea deal the the word was to everybody else if you turn down a plea deal you go look at mr mock you went from 30 to 36 months up to 20 years we will crush you if you
Starting point is 02:42:02 if you don't take the deal and they do that all the time that's why we don't have jury trials anymore exactly you know everybody caves to that because that's been a standard operating procedure as part of the corruption of the doj from the top to the bottom yeah 100 and and that's what you see when i went into prison because i did have you know i got found guilty it was crazy i i proved that the kick never happened. The cop that they brought on the stand said he couldn't say if he had been kicked. And then my lawyer, before I fired him, showed a picture of a guy who was standing closer to him than me. And he said, well, if you were kicked, which you say you don't know if you were, if you were, which one of these guys might have been the guy to do it? He looked at me, looked at the picture, looked back at me, looked at the picture looked back at me looked at the picture and picked the other guy so he couldn't pick me out of a two-man lineup in court couldn't say if he'd been
Starting point is 02:42:52 kicked and then i proved i would have had to have been 12 feet tall to have actually kicked him and i was still found guilty of an assault so this should give you some idea of how bogus these charges were and what a sham the actual trials were. I've known people that had competent lawyers, and they were just amazed at how rigged this whole process was. And that's the whole point of bringing everybody back to D.C. So this guy might have been incompetent, but the whole thing was rigged anyway, as you found out. And so they found you guilty. Now, you had the re-sentencing stuff based on this 512 obstruction thing that was overturned by the Supreme Court. Yeah. what I found when I got into prison was that the first step back that Trump signed into law back
Starting point is 02:43:46 in 2018 allowed for prisoners low-level prisoners who qualified as a low recidivism level which I did and most of the Jan Sixers did that you could earn up to 15 days off your sentence for every month that you would program now the, the programs were just classes. Idea being you get rehabilitated, but the prisons got more money for every person that successfully took these classes. Well, long story short is over the six years, they had not been applying those credits properly. So they were illegally holding people in prison longer than they should have. And so Colette Peters was the director of the BOP, came into court in the summer in front of Congress and came up with a litany of excuses as to why they weren't applying this because people had been complaining. But they wouldn't allow them to actually show up in court to argue it.
Starting point is 02:44:36 What they would do is force them to go through an internal BOP process. So by the time they would get to the courts, if someone hadn't been released yet, the courts would simply shut it down. And so nobody was able to bring it to court for the last six years. So what I did is I knew my judge wasn't going to give me time off for the 1512, because he had said so at sentencing. I only got 33 months when the DOJ was asking for 10. He actually came back to the original plea deal. He was actually asking for 10 years, right? 10 years. Yeah. And I got 33 months. So my judge was actually kind of, he praised me a lot in court, which was amazing. Um, while meanwhile, finding me guilty. So it was, it was, it was, it was this a judge, uh, uh, there's a, who was it you appointed by? Um, uh, well, uh well initially uh he got to the bench through um
Starting point is 02:45:26 through bush but obama appointed him as federal judge um he wasn't a fan of trump's by any stretch of the imagination but i think i kind of won him over in the process everybody said that it sounded like he liked me and uh he sat there and really praised me in court um and the fact that he came back to where the original plea deal was, the original sentencing guideline range, he basically overlooked the entire 1512, the bogus other charges that they brought. And he said, really, it's this one charge that I'm looking at. And he said, you know, more or less, I'm not going to tax you for having gone to court. And through trial, I'm going to give you this 33 months.
Starting point is 02:46:03 So what I did with that, though, is I had been fighting for my FSA credits, and I kept getting jerked around by the BOP. What I figured out is there was two separate databases that they were creating, one that I would see as an inmate and my case manager, which was the true FSA credits we were earning. But then there's another database that they created that the DOJ, the judges and probation would see, or anybody else on the outside that would care to look. And they were not applying credits properly. So again, what would happen is you think you're ready to go to a halfway house, and then all of a sudden they say, oh no, you still got another year. And then people would start losing their mind their mind well most inmates don't know how to fight this and they count on that those that do would end up getting shut down and no courts would hear it so i piggybacked off the 1512 getting overturned by the supreme court and so i figured out real early on i'm not going to be able to get in front of this judge i ran through my internal remedies which take about four to six
Starting point is 02:47:05 months to do, got denied on all of them or ignored, kept my paperwork. And so when I went into court on the 1512, I backdoored it and argued the FSA. And so what happened in court was extremely important because I had paperwork that showed that I should have been out November 4th. This is January 3rd. So I was already two months overdue for having should have been released. The DOJ came in and argued that I shouldn't even be released till the summer. And then when the judge asked the Minnesota probation, probation agreed with my math, which was the legal correct amount. And then I should have already been released.
Starting point is 02:47:40 So then the DOJ says to the judge, you don't have jurisdiction here, your honor. And I'm sitting back going, well, I didn't go to law school, but that doesn't sound like how you start off an argument with a judge. I'm like, I'm going to go home in a couple hours. I'm like, keep it up, buddy. So he starts that off and he says, you don't have jurisdiction. This is an internal BOP bureaucratic issue. And he says, well, you sentenced on the 1512. Mr. Mock is not arguing the 1512. He's arguing these FSA bureaucratic issues. And I was like, yeah, no kidding, buddy. You just figured that out. I've been planning this for the last six months. Welcome to the chess game. And so he criticizes me. And meanwhile, I'm sitting
Starting point is 02:48:23 back laughing like, yeah, and it's going to work too. So for the first time, this gets heard in court. And the DOJ said this, Your Honor, while our heart goes out to Mr. Mock and his plight, sure it does, if you went throughout the BOP, you would find out that Mr. Mock is not unique in this situation, that there would be literally thousands of men who are being held and are dealing with the same bureaucratic issues with the BOP. And if you rule on this, Your Honor, it will open a Pandora's box to where these inmates can now seek relief through the courts. And for that reason, you cannot rule on this. The judge did in fact rule. He ruled in my favor and gave me time served
Starting point is 02:49:05 on the third. And I had to sit in a hotel room for 17 days waiting for my pardon so that I could come back to Minnesota because Minnesota wouldn't allow me back in the state. So that was heard. I've talked to lawyers since then. And the fact that the DOJ knew that the BOP was illegally holding people in prison that long, that they colluded with them and conspired to keep those people in there and to keep it away from the courts and that the judges had subsequently not allowed any of these into court, which they should have. There is a massive, massive class action suit that should be brought because this is tens of thousands of people who have been illegally held in prison. This was on a law that had bipartisan support through the House and Senate and was
Starting point is 02:49:51 signed into law by Trump. So there are most assuredly, I cannot wait for Doge to get involved into this one and start digging this up. And I've actually been in contact with some people who work directly with Elon Musk's elon musk's lawyers and i'm fully expecting that when i go back into dc that i'll be having those conversations um because i'm sitting here right now with the paperwork in my hands that proves that the doj that the bop has been illegally holding people in prison and now that it's uh been admitted they they said the quiet part out loud for the first time ever in court it's amazing i really think it's a god thing yeah that that i
Starting point is 02:50:30 wind up to be able to do this and uh now i've got the ear of some very powerful people um so you got the transcript you got the transcript of what they said in court and and they admitted to this in court so that's great uh you've got them dead right. Yeah. So moving forward, that's going to be very important. And again, they're just kind of a law unto themselves. And they don't care what the law is. They've got their own little fiefdom and they do whatever they wish with that. So at this point now, you got out.
Starting point is 02:51:03 Let's see, that was January the 3rd. You said they made you stay in jail for, stay there for another 17 days. Is that it? So you, did you? I actually, I stayed in a hotel room for 17 days waiting to get pardoned. I actually got to go back up to the jail and reunite the one other Jan Sixer I was in there with his mom. He hadn't seen her in two and a half years. And so I got to drive him up and.
Starting point is 02:51:24 But you got out just before the pardons from Trump then. So around the 20th or whatever like that, just before he became president, you got out. Well, that's amazing because we've seen a lot of stories about people. You know, you're talking about keeping people in prison. Seen a lot of stories about how they move people all over the country. You know, knowing that they're going to get pardoned and get let out by trump they they move them to remote areas and these guys you know don't have any any way to communicate with people so i've seen a lot of desperate stories about that as well um so there's still five locked up so until those five uh get released
Starting point is 02:51:59 we're still fighting on behalf of jan sixers so why are those five locked up uh there were other charges that they brought against them uh based on most of it was i think all of them quite frankly were um basically fruit of the poisonous tree it was stuff that they came up with when they they went and raided their houses um a few of them were um uh had previous felonies and they hit them with uh possession of a firearm or ammunition, even though they were in houses that weren't their houses. It was their brother that had a gun or a rifle, and there was some ammo that didn't match the rifle. So it was trumped-up stuff, really.
Starting point is 02:52:39 And then Jeremy Browns is one of the worst. Dive into his case. It's a conspiracy like you wouldn't believe. The FBI set him up for their own reasons. is one of the worst there's dive in his case it's a conspiracy like you wouldn't believe the fbi set him up um for their own reasons and uh they they hit him with some garbage charges so they they need to be released until that happens we're going to keep fighting um and then obviously fighting for the truth but um you know i've i've been around the country since then i jumped in a truck with uh with my girlfriend and we've literally been videotaping, meeting other Jan Sixers. You can find me on X at Brian Mock, P-P-O-W, like political prisoner war,
Starting point is 02:53:11 and check out some of our stories. And if you want to help keep some gas in the tank, my give, send, go, free help, Brian Mock. That's how I'm living right now. They literally wipe me out. This has cost me about a million dollars, my career, my family, my dogs. I've got my truck left and what I could fit in a storage. Well, what other people can stick in a storage unit. So any bit helps. I appreciate that. And I'll keep fighting. My goal right now is to get this to happen in D.C. because until this story gets told right, I'm going to keep screaming about it anywhere I can. And that's the key thing, you know, the the how this messes your life up, you know, the fact that even though you're out and of course you did your time, but it's important. The pardon was still important to
Starting point is 02:54:00 you because that restores a lot of rights that you would not have even if you had finished your time uh but it's just the disruption that it does to your life is just horrific uh and and to look at how this i hope that you're able to uh with these people be able to uh put something together to uh get more attention to this and to not let this die it affected so many people and then by extension all of their families and friends this should have some life in it and uh hopefully you know i know how the new cycle is people something else happens and everybody runs off to that and they forget what had happened before but this has been going on for a long time it's a deep wound uh to a lot of people so i hope you really do get this out and get this before people.
Starting point is 02:54:45 It's important. And there's a lot going on the last couple of weeks, so I get the distraction. Yeah, that's right. A couple of comments here from listeners. Angry Tiger says people don't understand the Bureau of Prisons can do what they want, pretty much. They can even ignore judges' orders except when it comes to release. But they played all kinds of games with these J6ers as well at the end. M. Sellers says cruel and unusual punishment is against the law how can we follow up after these j6ers and get some of
Starting point is 02:55:11 this taken care of uh has there been any um you know when you talk to uh doge and musk and all these other people i mean you know some people have pointed out that merrick garland was not pardoned uh there are a lot of prosecutors who are not pardoned. There's a lot of judges, I think, who need to be impeached with this stuff. So, I mean, hopefully that is on the menu of actions that people need to take. Have you heard any, has there been any discussion about that? When I was in D.C., spoke with Marjorie Taylor Greene's office, met with her briefly, but her chief of staff had indicated that there is, and actually a couple other chief of staffs had indicated that there is,
Starting point is 02:55:52 have been talks of investigation. Barry Loudermilk's office is handling that. So I would encourage everybody to call to Barry Loudermilk's office. Not necessarily my favorite politician in the world, but we'll see where it goes with that it seems like it's going to fall on him to do something with this and I think everybody needs to be calling his office emailing demanding that we Jan Sixers
Starting point is 02:56:16 and you know not that I'm the end all be all of the information on Jan Six but I have a group of guys who've been living and breathing this for four years. They need to be talking to me, and that's one of the things I'm going back to D.C. this next week to try to make happen. That solves all of it. If we tell the real truth of what happens and they see the evidence, the impeachment of judges, the DOJ, the FBI, the BOP, all of this happens as a result of us being able to tell our stories and show the truth. And that's all we've ever asked for. Roughly 1,600 of us, all of us to a man or
Starting point is 02:56:54 woman has said, we don't care about any of the other things. All we want is the truth to come out. And so when you've got a government who's hidden all this for years and we're saying just we'll trade all of the torture and all of the abuse and all of the loss to simply expose the system so that this never happens again because it can and will happen again. We are not unique in this situation. Oh, it's happened over and over again. Hiding exculpatory evidence that would show somebody is innocent. That is a hallmark of all this stuff, the trumped up charges that they add to people to get them to plead with it i've got one question here from a listener says david can you ask your guest if he regrets going to dc over an election instead of going there for a government and administration that didn't respect our rights
Starting point is 02:57:38 during covid somehow that's been whitewashed what would you say about that uh well i really did both because i i fought against walls in the process. But yeah, no, I don't regret a thing. Actually, I'm quite honored at the fact that the government was so threatened by a landscaper in Minnesota that they had to come after me to absolutely destroy me, throw me in a hole and torture me and deprive me of all my constitutional rights. I did warn them, though, when I first represented myself per se and went to my very first Zoom meeting, I stood in front of the prosecutor and the FBI agent and I said, you arrested the worst person on January 6th, and not for what I did,
Starting point is 02:58:17 because there will come a time when you rue the day that you ever heard my name if you do not drop these charges and got up and walked out of the meeting and that day is coming very soon where they are going to rue ever hearing my name so no i am totally honored i am uh blessed i don't think he meant i don't think he meant about that but i think he meant about the you know the fact that these people are not going to pay a price i wish they would rue the day that they locked us down and did the rest of the stuff, because I think we're going to have another shot at that. I think the next time they do this, we need to have some pushback against it.
Starting point is 02:58:53 It's kind of strange to me that throughout the world, as this was happening everywhere around the world, it wasn't just in America. It was a global agenda. And as it was happening, about the only place where people really pushed back was in Canada. You know, that trucker rally, you know. It was a global agenda. And as it was happening, about the only place where people really pushed back was in Canada, you know, that trucker rally, you know. And that was a hallmark protest, I think. The way they did it, they did it peacefully.
Starting point is 02:59:16 And they tried to smear them in every way possible. And they got so desperate that they jumped in and started taking financial moves against people. And that really exposed them. So it worked out even better when they did that because they showed who the real villains were and all that. But tell us why. We're about to run out of time. We've got about 30 seconds left. Tell us, again, where people can find you and how they can help you.
Starting point is 02:59:38 Yeah. On X, at Brian Mock, P-P-O-W, and then my Give, Send, Go is Help Brian Mock. That'd be awesome. Also, check out my song. I wrote a song for my kids when I was in prison. Came out, got it recorded. If you go to YouTube and look up Brian Mock music, it's called The Stand. The Give, Send, Go that's on there isn't current, but hit mine up if you can.
Starting point is 03:00:02 I appreciate any support. It literally is helping me in this fight right now um to make sure this gets exposed and uh actually my girlfriend is is fought against the covid stuff uh she's one that's out there fighting to expose those who uh who were involved in the covid and the draconian shutdown so between the two of us um the government really hates us and we will we will make sure we fight till we get to the bottom of all of it yeah we can't just walk away and say okay well it's over we we gotta get some uh response out of this stuff for all these things that were done to us over the last five years or so uh thank you so much for joining us brian and uh best wishes for you getting your
Starting point is 03:00:40 life together and uh we're all hoping that you're going to be able with the other people to get some exposure and to get some justice and most importantly, to get some reform because this stuff has been going on for a long time. It's just this thing festered out in the biggest way that we've seen so far. And we need to pull this in before it happens again, because it will if we don't pull it in. Thank you so much for joining us. Absolutely. Thanks for having me on. Thank you. Have a good day bye-bye the common man they created common core to dumb down our children they created common past to track and control us. Their commons project to make sure the commoners own nothing
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