The David Knight Show - Fri Episode #1997: Rising Above the Chaos: Heroes, Truth, and Love Ignite Hope for a Free and Humane Future

Starting point is 00:00:00 The In a world of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. It's The David Knight Show. As the clock strikes 13, it's Friday the 25th of April, year of our Lord 2025. Well today we're going to take a look at the rapidly changing society that we have here, the increase of the police and surveillance state. There's a new organization in the UK that actually is connected to this attempt to do geoengineering and dim the Sun, but they're connected to a lot of other things. It's kind of interesting because if you look at all the things that they're doing, it's all the same stuff that Elon Musk is doing and DARPA is doing. Even more secretive than DARPA, they say,

Starting point is 00:01:24 but I don't know, we don't know any of the names of the people in DARPA is doing even more secretive than DARPA, they say. But, I don't know, we don't know any of the names of the people in DARPA, do we? These unelected people who are trying to transform our world, not just politically, physically as well. We're also going to take a look at what's going on with trade issues, the additional fights, and an amazing story about what has happened with our police state society when it comes to travel. Yes, since 9-11 the police state

Starting point is 00:01:52 has been metastasizing but starting with the airports and with travel and they're always a step ahead and we're going to show you what that looks like we'll be right back. Well, I saw this article and I thought, um, you know, Twitter appears to be shadowbanning accounts that criticize Elon Musk. Who knew? Shadowban. That's, that's my, uh, that's my life here. Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of social media? The shadow band do. Yeah, that's... I'm the shadow, I guess.

Starting point is 00:02:33 Don't sit here and cloak yourself in the First Amendment and free speech and then do things like that. New York Times reports that of three users that they focused on, who had like a million followers or so and then they quarreled with Musk or criticized them online in December and they were promptly shadow banned. They saw their engagement basically go to zero. Well, so yeah, you know I've been banned by both the left and by the right

Starting point is 00:03:02 because neither side cares about free speech. And the amazing thing is that you can see it in social media especially. You can see it in the people who just want to shut you up, who just despise you and will attack you ad hominem. And that applies to anybody that's out there. I mean you don't have to have a lot of people following you. That applies to anybody that's out there. I mean, you don't have to have a lot of people following you. That applies to anybody.

Starting point is 00:03:26 There's just such intolerance for differences of opinion anymore. And it's very concerning because the right is just as bad now as the left used to be. Both of them have done this. They have nothing but contempt for free speech. And they don't try to hide it, but Musk does try to hide it. That's the interesting thing. He tries to pretend that he doesn't have that. A shadow banning the practice of severely suppressing a user's reach without informing

Starting point is 00:03:52 them that they've been punished. Yeah, free speech but not reach is what they like to say. And you know, it's not surprising because it was something that had been established many decades. And the Republican and the Democrat national conventions when they nominate the presidents, right, both parties would do this. And I remember one of the first reports that I did at Infowars back in 2012 was talking about how this has been a very long time

Starting point is 00:04:25 that they've been doing this, what they would do. And both political parties would do it at their conventions. They would say, well, we have a free speech area. We later saw that at the Bundy standoff thing out in the middle of the desert, a little area where they professionally printed up signs that said free speech area. Somebody did a handwritten sign that said

Starting point is 00:04:44 free speech is not an area. And so what they would do at the conventions is they would basically make caged areas. You literally go stand in a cage and they would have like a box that you could stand on and a microphone that you could hold and you could do your political karaoke I guess, you know, if you wanted to do that that and so you're free to speak whatever you want you know in that area which was removed by many many blocks from the convention you had to look for it to find it it was so far away so yeah you can go there and you can have your free speech in that little area, but nobody's going to know that you're there.

Starting point is 00:05:27 And that is the type of thing that we see on social media as well. And it's all born out of a contempt for any dissent. Nobody wants to debate anything. They're too insecure in their beliefs, I think, really, is what it is. They haven't really given any consideration to what it is that they believe or why they believe it. They're blindly following a group or a person, and it's that kind of blind tribalism that is so resentful of any critical thought.

Starting point is 00:05:59 Don't sit here and cloak yourself in the First Amendment free speech and then do things like that. One of the allegedly shadow-banned accounts was run by Anastasia Maria Lupis. I have no idea who she is. She had over a million followers and she used to receive hundreds of thousands of views per day. Now that's the other key thing too. I can look at something that I would post. And okay, so I have like 130, 40,000, I don't even know. I don't even pay attention anymore to that because that's meaningless.

Starting point is 00:06:30 But I can look at it and I can see that the number of times that somebody has been able to, has viewed my posts, in other words, it's just been in their feed. And it is, even though I got those kind of followers you know I might get a couple hundred and maybe maybe and I would see people who had maybe you know 1% of the number of people that I had and they would get 50 times the number of people watching what they seeing what they had. It's amazing you know how skewed that is and that's one of the easiest ways to see it

Starting point is 00:07:08 there. In December and of course this is coming from this is coming from Futurism which is on the left and even though they're hectoring Musk for not supporting free speech the way they present her the way characterize her, she said she also frequently shared misinformation on vaccines. Well who are you to say it's misinformation? You call her anti-vax or whatever, but that's different than misinformation, you know. You can call me anti-vax, I don't care. Don't say that I've got misinformation on vaccines unless you want to debate. Okay? But anyway, they use the same thing. You know, information that is not allowed. Let's just put it that way. She put out information that's not allowed about vaccines. And these people don't like her doing that. They think she ought to be

Starting point is 00:07:58 shut down. Isn't that horrible? That Musk would allow somebody who's putting out misinformation on vaccines? This is the tactic that they use. And so that was okay. She could put out misinformation about vaccines, but then she publicly criticized Musk's support for an immigration program to have the foreign workers come to the US. Remember that was when he was talking about H1B and how, you know, and he'd done that before as well with Rama Slimy. They were talking about how pathetic Americans are and how that we just need to have people from other places like them. Anyway, I wonder why they had to come to this country from other places. It couldn't be because America had a better system or society, could it? And they're taking it down? Anyway, immediately her

Starting point is 00:08:47 engagement dropped off a cliff and now she's lucky if her posts crack the low ten thousands. In other words, they took her down by about a factor of ten. So she's lightly shadowbanned. To confirm her suspicions of a shadowbanned, she created a brand new X account and quickly received far more views and likes than the original one. Yeah, of course. Another account that they covered was Laura Loomer, who got the same thing happening to her because of the immigration issue. Loomer was briefly stripped of her ex-premium status before Musk reinstated it. Her numbers wouldn't recover until Musk began interacting with her posts again weeks later.

Starting point is 00:09:28 Maybe she talked to their mutual friend, Donald. She said, I think it's wrong to say that it's a free speech platform and then shut off people's ability to monetize. She monetized, I've never monetized any social media. I guess that's why she's so toxic on social media. She really is. So the drop sending engagement could be explained as futurism by other non-nefarious reasons, like maybe nobody wants to read your posts. Yeah, there's that too. That's why I get people who

Starting point is 00:10:03 don't like me criticizing our fearless leader and they make it clear they don't's that too. That's why I got people who don't like me criticizing our fearless leader. And they make it clear they don't like that either. So that's an element of it too. So maybe it's the shadow banning plus the fact that I'm not partisan here on it. That said, Musk has a history of vindictively abusing his power on the site. He's repeatedly suspended the accounts of journalists, targeting critics of his takeover of the website. Of course, he also blocked all links to Substack after it put up a feature that was similar to Twitter's feed. And it's kind of interesting to see

Starting point is 00:10:38 that he's got his boring company, which... Now pull picture up Travis, it's um, this is right down the street from where we used to live in Bastrop. It's amazing. Absolutely amazing. I didn't know it was there until we were moving. It's like, oh, all the better to be out of here. But he's got both boring company and a SpaceX facility that's not too far away from where we used to live. Really really really close. And he's been at war with the Bastrop County officials over his utter contempt for any regulations.

Starting point is 00:11:17 The Department of Transportation said we'd like for you to do the curb, well they didn't say we'd like, they demand you know you put your curb cuts here and so forth. He did it wherever he wanted. They said you can't do that. He said well fine me. He doesn't care. Well, they didn't say we'd like, they demand, you know, you put your curb cuts here and so forth. He did it wherever he wanted. They said, you can't do that. He said, well, fine me. He doesn't care. They have, they had regulations about what they wanted him to do with his wastewater

Starting point is 00:11:34 and he just dumped it into the river there. And the county was outraged and they put fines against him, but he doesn't care. He pays the fines and keeps doing it. What a great neighbor. But anyway, this company, the Boring Company, which is about tunnels, and they want to do a lot of tunnels. They haven't done any tunnels except in Vegas. So they've got a little bit of income.

Starting point is 00:11:58 But what he did was they applied for, as a small business, in order to get federal contracts. The richest man in history of the world has got a small business and he wants to get at the headline with federal contracts and that's how he became the richest man in the world with the federal contracts that he gets and that's why he's there with the Trump administration why he gave him 200 million dollars so right after Trump won the election, his $7 billion tunneling company registered as a small business. We're not gonna have Doge look

Starting point is 00:12:33 at that, right? Or any of the military industrial contracts that are there. And this reminds me so much of the fraud of the PPP stuff, the Payroll Protection Plan or whatever it was called. Remember when Trump locked everybody down? Said, you can't open your business. Oh, but it's okay. I'll give you some universal basic income. You know, we'll give you the PPP thing. But it's only going to be for small businesses. And then they promptly redefined a small business. It was, you know, you have fewer than X number of employees, let's say, and forget what the number was, 500 or something maybe, or

Starting point is 00:13:15 maybe it was lower than that, I don't know. But what they did was they made it per location. So that meant that McDonald's and all these chains could apply and get it ahead of the line for the small business loans and they got all the money pretty much. Over 50% of the funds went to less than 5% of the companies. And the banks rationed it as saying, well, our fees and everything that we make are the same depending on this but we can you know overhead but if we do it for McDonald's instead of for you the mom and pop business we can have more money that you know same amount of work and we can make more money out of it and so that's the way the thing operated and of

Starting point is 00:14:02 course that allowed businesses like Trump's hotels to also apply because it was based on per location, so boring has struggled to generate revenue despite receiving hundreds of millions of dollars in funding and So the it's interesting that the boring company is The president of the boring company is reportedly in charge of Doge's day-to-day operations. That's why I brought it up. So you got Elon Musk, richest man in the world, and he wants his company, which is to get special treatment as a small business. And then the guy who is the president of that company

Starting point is 00:14:42 is the one who's running the Doge operations on a day-to-day basis. So it's um isn't it great how this whole system worked you know I had a small business Karen and I did for 13 years never got a cent from any government. All we have was the back of their hand. We didn't do something according to their wishes. Claiming small business stature means that Boring is eligible for special contracts that have been carved out for small businesses. A company owned by a man estimated to be the richest in the world could potentially use this designation to win federal contracts that were meant for small business.

Starting point is 00:15:22 Despite Boring having raised huge sums of cash, including a 2022 fundraising round in which it raised $675 million. It's a small business. It's a small world, isn't it? Yeah, Elon Musk and Jetpack and all of this stuff. And so let's take a look at an agency that really strangely parallels what he's doing. Now there's a couple of different reasons for it. I mean, you know, it could be that he's got his ear to the ground, he understands where

Starting point is 00:15:55 everything is going, but the overlap is absolutely amazing. And you know, so is the overlap with DARPA and the fact that, you know, their first prize, they run prizes just like Elon Musk did. Oh, okay. He got that idea kind of from them. The very first one of these competitive prizes was for self-driving cars. And then they've done other ones subsequent to that like robots and things like that. But he did his X Prize, which is there as I've been talking

Starting point is 00:16:27 about this week, to suck CO2 out of the air. And it's interesting because this British government, the UK government's secretive agency, this is out of the UK, ExposeNews.com, said ARIA is the name of the program I mentioned this earlier this week the Advanced Research and Invention Agency ARIA they've got a budget of 800 million pounds which is huge for the British government and we were typically looking at the absurd astronomical figures coming from the US. It doesn't mean a thing unless it's hundreds of billions of dollars anymore, right? Evert Dirksen is rope-spinning in his grave, but ARIA's operations are so opaque

Starting point is 00:17:15 that its secrecy is unparalleled, even amongst its peers such as DARPA, the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, and ARPA-H, the U.S. Advanced Research Projects Agency for Health, because they are so focused on attacking our health that they created their own advanced agency for doing that. And so, with a staggering 800 million pounds of taxpayer funds allocated over five years, ARIA claims to pursue groundbreaking innovations in artificial intelligence, climate manipulation, brain interfacing, and neurotechnologies. Oh, checks all the boxes.

Starting point is 00:17:57 Yeah, Elon Musk is a creature of this system of the Five Eyes system of the military industrial complex of the globalist of the transhumanists. It's amazing to me to see how clueless the right has become and it's because You've got right-wing influencers Like Laura Loomer who will suck up to him on most issues and who will heal this stuff over on most of these other issues. Oh, we're going to we're going to criticize him on immigration, but when it comes to brain interfacing technology and all that kind of satanic stuff, well, we're fine with him. And so he's not looking at any of the military industrial complex issues and not looking at their use of the federal government to make money. Or his leadership operates like a cabal, wielding immense power with very little accountability. Oh, even more similarities here.

Starting point is 00:18:58 And it is a taxpayer-funded black hole, like DARPA, like ARPA-H, like the CIA, like all these agencies that are the true government here in America. ARIA's budget, again nearly a billion pounds, represents a colossal drain on public resources, yet its spending remains a tightly guarded secret. The agency's exemption from FOIA requests enshrined in its founding legislation as a brazen betrayal of public trust. One person said this financial black hole fuels suspicion that ARIA is a playground for well-connected elites siphoning public funds into speculating gambles with no guarantees

Starting point is 00:19:39 of societal benefit. Well, it's actually worse. It's weaponized against us. And one of the first projects that they've got is this one that I talked about earlier this week, the 57 million pounds to try to block the sun out with geoengineering. But also, AI, safeguarded AI, there you go, AI systems for critical infrastructure or precision neurotechnologies like the brain computer interface or scaling compute so that you can lower artificial intelligence computing costs.

Starting point is 00:20:18 Our programmable plants, this one I love, programmable plants, We could engineer plants to remove CO2. God did that. He beat him to the punch. He already designed plants to take out CO2. That's the whole point. But I don't know, that's strange. Anyway, but they're gonna do it genetically. Now, we're gonna make them better. They're going to improve on what God did.

Starting point is 00:20:48 And then climate, Earth observation, smarter robot bodies, all this other kind of stuff, right? Climate data, bio-inspired robotics, you name it, but it's all the same type of stuff that Elon Musk is doing. He really is, and it's been said by several people. He is kind of, you know, we can see that he's not running all of these different businesses. He's not even playing the games that he claims that he's in the top 20, you know. They got caught faking that as well. He's not running all these different businesses. He's just a figurehead. And it

Starting point is 00:21:23 is a, when you look at what is ultimately underneath it, it is coming from the darkest forces on earth, folks, our own government and the inner workings of the actual government. And then we look at Netflix. Now the CEO had an interview and I thought it was kind of interesting. This headline caught my eye. It said, the movie theater model is outdated. Why? Well, most of the country, he said, cannot walk to a multiplex. Oh, wow, there we go. Smart city stuff. You're not going to be able to walk to the movie theater. Well, we're not going to make

Starting point is 00:21:59 a whole bunch of movie theaters. And if we did, they wouldn't be that big so we'll just have everybody watch stuff in their home and he trashes the whole idea of a communal experience and he begins by saying well take a look at the box office box office is awful could it be that the movies are awful I quite liked the movie theater experience I grew up in Tampa and I have a the movie theater experience. I grew up in Tampa and I have a great movie theater there that goes back to the Great Depression. They spent tens of millions of dollars in the Great Depression to make this thing. And it's beautiful.

Starting point is 00:22:35 It's a beautiful old art deco Spanish architecture from the 1920s. And boy, it really did put a setting in there when you're watching something like Psycho or something you know but you know it was it was pretty cool I don't even know that they use it anymore for movies they use it for live performances but he said why are they all struggling take a look at the global box office well it's because their movies are garbage. It's just that simple. You can watch the stuff that Netflix is churning out. You can watch it on TV. It's just kind of background stuff that's running all the time, which is the way a lot of people use television. You know, it's kind of like Gilligan's Island in the background. And so this guy who's making things that are as sophisticated as Gilligan's Island except

Starting point is 00:23:28 that they've got real push to nudge you in certain different ways, culturally, religiously, you name it. Gilligan's Island wasn't doing that, I don't think. It was just mindless entertainment. But this is mindless, low-budget entertainment from Netflix to program you. It's their programming. They're programming you. And he said, folks grew up thinking, I want to make movies on a gigantic screen.

Starting point is 00:23:54 I want to have strangers watch them and have them play them in theaters for two months and people cry and sell out shows. And it's an outdated concept, he said. Ask specifically if the desire of filmmakers wanting to make movies, quote, for movie theaters, for the communal experience, is that an outmoded idea? He said, I think it is. For most people, not for everybody, if you're fortunate enough to live in Manhattan or some big city, right, you can walk to a multiplex.

Starting point is 00:24:24 But most of the country can't. Well, we'll fix that. We'll make sure that everybody lives in a city, right? Except in those cities, you won't be able to walk to it in your 15-minute city. I mean, why do we have to walk to a movie theater? So, we used to have drive-ins. The cars are gonna be gone too, right? So is real ID actually happening? And it is really bizarre what is being done and it is all flowing out of the airports. That's where the injection point is. You know, you want to see where the government injects the cash. You know, they do the quantitative easing through the banks and stuff like that. Well, if You want to see where the government injects the cash. They do the quantitative easing through the banks and stuff like that. Well, if you want to see where they do the police state tightening

Starting point is 00:25:11 instead of the quantitative easing, that is in the airport. So we'll talk about that when we come back. Stay with us. We'll be right back. I'm going to play it for you. The The You're listening to The David Knight Show. Is Real ID actually happening? Well, they say it is. They say it's going to happen next month. It's kind of interesting, isn't it? Yes, 20 years later. Because it was part of a suite of a whole bunch of programs that

Starting point is 00:27:05 were put in in 2005. One of those, of course, was the infamous PREP Act that was put in in 2005 in the George W. Bush administration. That was the act that went much further than the pharmaceutical immunity, Legal Immunity Act in 1986, that said that they could not be sued for any harm that they did to children with their vaccine program.

Starting point is 00:27:35 This one, the PREP Act was saying, well, if we do what we've been practicing to do already at that point in time for five years, remember the first one of these simulations, that was exactly what Trump and company did in 2020. Dark winter, that was two months before 9-11. Then one week after you have the false flag anthrax attack and then two months after that you have the model legislation sent out to all the different states so that you don't have a 10th amendment problem and the president, whoever that would be, like

Starting point is 00:28:03 Trump, could just write them a check and these governors who would get checks that were bigger than the entire state budget would be more than willing to comply with any measures necessary and run it through the public health bureaucracy that had already been given the legal framework for that 20 years earlier. And it's been there forever. Oh, but now we need it. It wasn't, they don't want you to see the direct effect, right? Just like the vaccines. They don't want you to. Yeah, they had some people who died instantly with this stuff. And they, they do have children who die instantly with it. They call it SIDS and pretend that it's not their vaccine.

Starting point is 00:28:42 But for the most part, it's a slow kill. It's a slow kill. And that's the way it was with this as well. They didn't want people to, they didn't want to run this legislation out and then use it the next year. You know, let's wait 20 years to do it. And so here we are now. You know, they do this hit in 2001.

Starting point is 00:28:59 They do another hit in 2020. And then let's do the hit, give them a little bit of time to adjust to that and then we will roll this other thing out on them and so here we are you know 2005 they were rolling out all of these measures that were going to make sure that we didn't have another problem like that and now here we are in 2025 and they're getting ready to roll this stuff out 20 years after it was passed the real id act may finally be enforced. However the decades between the law's passage and enforcement, says Reason, show that a terrorism prevention measure, it's hardly needed in the first place.

Starting point is 00:29:36 Now isn't that interesting? That's one of the things I said as they were rolling out these nonsense Simon Says rules during 2020 and 2021. Well we told you that we're going to do this a couple of months ago and now we're doing it and I'm telling you that in two months we're going to do the next step. And guess what? All the countries are doing it the same thing at the same time and they were all waiting a couple of months before they would do the next one.

Starting point is 00:30:02 Well if it's an emergency you would want to do all this stuff all at once, right? But it wasn't an emergency. It was a boiling the frogs conditioning. And so the Real ID Act was passed in 2005, part of the suite of these post-9-11 laws. And as Reason points out, the fact that we haven't needed it, you know, the fact that they haven't used it all this know, the fact that they haven't used it all this time, says it's not really an emergency and they don't really need it. But that's the way these people operate. And that's a real tell, isn't it? It's a real tell that it's a conspiracy.

Starting point is 00:30:34 And I said that, you know, when Biden and Macron say at the same time, well, we just did this and now two months from now we're going to do that, because, you know, it's an emergency. So Reason said this is aimed at boosting national security. No, it is aimed at boosting the police and surveillance state. They said it was intended to make it harder to forge identity documents. No, that was a stated reason but as they pointed out any document anywhere can be forged. That's not an issue.

Starting point is 00:31:07 Over the past two decades, enforcement of the law, how do they keep this from happening? Well, they put a gold star on it. Put a gold star on it. And a tribute to their forerunners, the Nazis, right? Here's a gold star. Why don't you wear that so we can identify you? So putting that gold star on that ID makes it counterfeit proof, right? Over the past two decades, enforcement of the law has been delayed a whopping seven times. Most recently, the Biden administration delayed enforcement for two years.

Starting point is 00:31:40 So far, no additional delay has been announced by the Trump administration. Isn't that interesting? Trump administration didn't delay it in its first term. Trump administration is quietly going to roll out with this thing because now everybody's guard is down. You see, if Biden were to do it, well, let's not do it. Let's delay this for a couple of years. We're going to hand it off to Republicans.

Starting point is 00:32:02 And the Republicans will do it. Because the Republicans are more likely to be the people that have an issue with real ID. They're going to push back if Biden does it. So let's do it when Trump is there. We'll install Trump. And then they won't have a problem with it. And so that's what they're doing. And Trump is going to run this thing through.

Starting point is 00:32:24 That's why they always run these things through. It was a Republican, Ronald Reagan, who gave the pharmaceutical industry immunity. It was another Republican, George W. Bush, who did it to a greater extent with the PREP Act and so forth. At least 17 states are less than 50% compliant. Many states have pushed back against the law with fears over creating a national registry of ID holders. Well, that's the absolute purpose of it.

Starting point is 00:32:53 Acceptable IDs weren't even issued in all 50 states until 2020, a staggering 15 years after the law was passed. Jim Harper, who is a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, said in 2022, some people deny it, but real ID is emphatically a national ID. It is national in scope, knitting together diverse state systems into a system that is uniform with respect to its data elements and its behind-the-scenes information sharing. Never mind that RealID can be presumably forged like any other identity document, RealID requires Americans to allow their private information to be entered into linked state databases.

Starting point is 00:33:40 These linked databases contain the amassed hacker bait details of millions of identification documents necessary for air travel, for air travel, and for access to government facilities. Well, you know, I could easily do without both of those things because they've made air travel such a hellish experience and I'm not interested in going anywhere at all. I used to like to travel, but it got to the point where the air travel itself was such a bitter pilt beginning and the end. I said, yeah, I quit doing it for pleasure and now I wouldn't do it at all. And I certainly don't have any interest in going into a government facility. Nevertheless, when I got my license here, they were asking

Starting point is 00:34:23 me for all this ID and didn't tell me that some of that was voluntary if I wanted to get a real ID. And I thought, wow, they've really upped these requirements for getting a driver's license. And when I get finished, she said, and now you got your real ID. See the gold star? And I was like, I didn't want that. A lot of people don't realize that they're doing that. It's kind of the way that they run these things in the back door. The law enforcement, 20 years after its passage, would trade privacy for an, at best, hypothetical

Starting point is 00:34:54 gain in safety. Well, hundreds of years ago, Franklin said, those who trade essential liberty for the promise of security deserve neither. And as I've said many times, history has shown that you get neither. You get neither security nor you don't get safety and you don't get liberty because you've traded away your liberty and you don't get safety in return. And so that brings us again back to this guy, Kilmar Garcia, that the Trump administration deported said that they did it wrongfully but then refused to bring him back.

Starting point is 00:35:31 And yet there does seem to be, this is the thing I find to be interesting about it, when you look at his background, the case that they based this stuff on was based on a program that had been thoroughly discredited and stopped. The arresting officer was somebody who has been fired and I believe criminal allegations have been made against him as well for the kind of stuff that he was doing. And so that part of it is really dodgy, and that's the part where they have really put their foot down and said, no, this is what we're standing on, even though they said they made a mistake. But there's other evidence. Of course, the guy was here illegally, but it's an issue

Starting point is 00:36:16 of what the appropriate punishment is. If somebody's here illegally, deport him, but you don't necessarily send him to the super max terrorist prison. But was he doing human trafficking? Well, it turns out that in Tennessee it certainly looks like it. As I said before, and I talked about this once, he was intercepted by the Tennessee Highway Patrol. He had eight other people in a van, so including him, nine people. None of the people spoke English.

Starting point is 00:36:43 None of them had any documentation. None of them had any luggage, and he said he was transporting them across the country. That looked suspicious, but I thought it was also odd that the Trump administration just did not talk about that. It was Tennessee Star that dug it up, a state newspaper over in Nashville. They did some good reporting. They were the ones who were focused on this tranny killers manifesto. And so they saw this and they reported it and they interviewed the highway patrol. Why was this guy released? They said, well, we call the FBI and the FBI told us to let him go. And so, but this was not the basis of, it should be, but it's not the basis.

Starting point is 00:37:27 Now you've got some people that are besides the Tennessee Star that are starting to pick this up. And it turns out as Tennessee Star does more investigation, it turns out the vehicle that he was driving was registered to somebody who had been convicted of human trafficking. So it looks like he was involved in that type of stuff, but that's not what they're saying. See, that's the issue. So, when we look at this, and we look at the deportation, we look at what is happening

Starting point is 00:37:54 at the airports and all of the panic around the border, again, they open up the border, just like the FBI under Biden says, let him go, let him go. They want a problem, because they've got a solution in mind. They want us to look at situations like this and they want us to beg them for ID, which is what the conservatives are doing. And so you see the GOP in Florida and DeSantis putting in mandatory, mandatory e-verify. E-verify has been there for a while. Hasn't been mandatory.

Starting point is 00:38:27 Now you're getting mandatory, real ID if you want to fly and other things like that. And so we have to be very careful about this. They've got other schemes that they've got conservatives begging to get identification for. But I want to show you what tyranny has become at the airports, you know, how drastic this has become. And again, about 20 years ago when we adopted our daughter, I remember we were heading back to the United States and in the airport there was an announcement in multiple languages and finally they get around to English and they're saying, if you were headed back to the United States you'd have to do this, this, this and this, this, you know.

Starting point is 00:39:12 So for people going to – special requirements, special things done for people coming back to the United States. And she was just under five years old and we had gone to a massive market of toys, which a lot of people go there and find suppliers of toys and then bring them back in and import them and everything. We just went around buying stuff at retail, which you could do as well. And so Karen had kind of quietly bought presents for her because it was a long flight and she doesn't know what's going on and we can't talk to her, she doesn't speak English and so she wanted to keep her busy and had all kinds of interesting toys that she was going to pull out little

Starting point is 00:39:54 by little to keep her calm. And so we go through the, you know, the anal examinations that they give you and they found the toys and one by one they start pulling them out and confiscating them. And our daughter is looking at it and it's like, oh, oh, you know, like, she really likes this stuff. And you see the excitement and then the disappointment as they take it away. And they took every last one of the toys. Can't have those toys on the plane.

Starting point is 00:40:23 I don't know why. Yeah, but that's just their special authority. And so she wound up crying for like 20 hours on the plane. And it was a wonderful trip. Anyway, here's a couple of teen girls arrested and deported while backpacking in Hawaii. They're German. And they were going around the world on an extended vacation. It's kind of strange. They're very. And they were going around the world on an extended vacation.

Starting point is 00:40:45 It's kind of strange. They're very young, 18 and 19. Two teenage girls from Germany were detained, arrested, and deported in Hawaii after immigration officials said it was suspicious that they didn't have a hotel room. They were backpackers. And they've been able to do this in other countries, but not in America. You're not going to do that in America. Don't you try to smuggle in some toys and you better not be backpacking. We're not going to allow that either. So 18 and 19 years old backpackers, they had arrived in Honolulu from Auckland, that's in New Zealand, doing a round-the-world trip. They planned to spend five weeks in Hawaii before moving on to California and then to Costa

Starting point is 00:41:25 Rica for the next legs of their journey. But despite having ESTA travel authorization, immigration officials accused them of attempting to enter the U.S. to work illegally. They were placed in handcuffs and taken to a nearby detention center, which they later learned was a deportation facility. Upon arrival they were subjected to full body scans, strip searches, forced to wear green prison jumpsuits. They were then placed in a holding facility with serious criminals

Starting point is 00:41:57 including an alleged murderer who had been locked up for 18 years. They were forced to spend the night in a freezing cold double cell. How's that for the land of the free? Isn't that great? In America, great. This is the prison that we are allowing them to build for us. And again, the prison begins at the airports and it is being pushed out everywhere. TSA is not airport security. It's about transportation. They want to do this everywhere under all circumstances. They'll use a TSA to keep you from getting out of the 15-minute cities or getting into one from another city.

Starting point is 00:42:38 That's where it's headed. You think it's bad at the airport now? Wait till you see what happens with the freedom cities from Trump. It was all like a fever dream, said one of them. It was a shock. We didn't expect it. We had already noticed a little bit about what was going on in the US. But at the time, we didn't think it was happening to Germans. That was pretty naive.

Starting point is 00:42:59 We felt so small and powerless. We've noticed that this is happening in America, but we think that it's just for people coming in from Mexico and Central America and places like that, right? Or other places. It's never gonna be that way for us, is it? After a sleepless night in a freezing cell, the girls were awakened early, escorted back to the airport in handcuffs. Upon arrival they were forced to board a Hawaiian Airlines flight to Tokyo. They were told they would receive their passports back once they arrived in Japan.

Starting point is 00:43:34 Included in their travel documents were interrogation transcripts that they had to sign, which quote contained sentences we didn't actually say. She said after the ordeal. They were 18 and 19 years old. They twisted it to make it seem as if we admitted that we wanted to work illegally in the US. Upon arriving in Tokyo the girls were shipped home on a flight via Qatar, which they say helped them to come to terms with the ordeal. I sometimes think about how wonderful the time in Hawaii would have been and what we would have experienced there," she said. But you know this has never

Starting point is 00:44:10 happened to Americans. This is for those illegals that are out there. Well, you know, we have an administration that is telling you that if you criticize a foreign government that's now illegal, essentially. You can get kicked out of the country even though you were legally recognized to be here as a student or whatever. And look, I don't share the political views of these people that this is happening to, but do you see the big, broad picture here? This is not about their issues. Just like free speech is not about whether or not you agree with somebody on what they're saying. It's a principle. It's a like free speech is not about whether or not you agree with somebody on what they're saying. It's a principle. It's a fundamental principle. And the fact that you're going to punish people because they say something that you don't

Starting point is 00:44:53 like and you're okay with that? You're okay with that? Well, then you don't support free speech. So Senator Kennedy was on a show this weekend, and he was asked, and they said, President Trump said this week that he'd like to send what he called homegrown criminals, meaning U.S. citizens, to foreign prisons like the one in El Salvador. Senator, do you think that the law allows a president to send U.S. citizens to a foreign prison?

Starting point is 00:45:24 No, ma'am, he said, nor does it nor should it be considered appropriate or moral. We have our own laws. We have the Eighth Amendment to the Constitution and we shouldn't be sending prisoners to foreign countries. And then Andy McCarthy, Fox News contributor, conservative legal commentator on Fox News, criticized the Trump administration over what was happening with this guy, Kilmar Garcia. And again, to me it looks like he probably was a trafficker, right? I don't know if he was a gang member, needs to be put in as a terrorist, but that new

Starting point is 00:46:03 evidence that they're not talking about that wasn't a part of the case to begin with ought to be looked at. They ought to do – if they said that they made a mistake, why did they say they made a mistake? Instead, what you see is stonewalling and lies from the Trump administration. Does that bother you? See, that bothers me. To me, that's more bothersome than a mistake.

Starting point is 00:46:31 Anybody can make a mistake and correct it, as we pointed out. The Trump administration did that. They mistakenly identified somebody and deported them to Iraq in the first administration. And they corrected that and brought it back. And then when they say, well, we made a mistake, but then you got people like Stephen Miller and all these other people they're gonna spokesperson you know Pam Bondi, Caroline Lovett, they double down and they start

Starting point is 00:46:55 doing ad hominem attacks on this guy about things that don't have anything to do with it. I mean the trafficking issue that where he got stopped in Tennessee, that's significant. But all this other stuff that they're doing about, well, you know, he had a protection order signed against him by his wife four years ago. Well, so what? That's not relevant. That's just character assassination and ad hominem attacks. He needs due process.

Starting point is 00:47:19 And we need to see that due process is working, you see. This is in the same respect that, as I said, Trump has, there's a lot of bad people that did lawfare to him, came after him for things that were not legitimate, and he needs to come after them and do something about it, but he needs to do it in a way that strengthens and upholds the rule of law, saying these people violated their position of trust for a personal vendetta. We're not going to have that. Instead what he's doing is, okay, well, it was a personal vendetta from them. Now I'm in charge.

Starting point is 00:47:56 I'm going to show you who the strongman is. It's all about him. It's never about the rule of law. So Andy McCarthy said, there's no question that there was an order. He was not supposed to be sent. As Senator Kennedy said, that was a screw-up. In 20 years at the Justice Department, I had plenty of screw-ups, but the thing is when the government screws up, it's supposed to fix it.

Starting point is 00:48:21 And these guys are basically saying, yeah, we screwed it up, so what? He said, you know, try to do something about it. That's the key. Well, a couple of comments here on Kik, Knights of the Storm. Good to see you guys there. Again, Knights of the Storm dot com. Check their programming. Check out their show.

Starting point is 00:48:42 And they also have a list there where you can find a lot of like-minded shows. Can you make a short of the Elon story that we can spam on Twix? Yeah, we'll try to do that today. Thank you. I'm glad you liked it. On Rumble, T Norman Artis said the real ID is intended to collect biometrics and to contain your health information, all for your benefit of course. Yeah, that's where it begins.

Starting point is 00:49:07 They're setting this up and it's that shared and linked database. Once they've got that database, they're going to put all kinds of stuff in it. All kinds of stuff in it. And on Kik, Jrun1 has subscribed on Kik. Thank you very much. We really do appreciate your support. We're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back. The The The Making sense, Common Again! You're listening to The David Knight Show. Well, welcome back. And I want to thank people who have sent us checks.

Starting point is 00:51:16 These were the ones that I talked about earlier in the week. We are up to 5 8s now, including these, but I did not read these names off. So I just want to thank the people that are there. Fred and Jackie, thank you very much. Lloyd P. Stacey P. William G. John S. Stephanie K. Veronica Y. Scott C. Margaret Mary T David and Deborah W Raymond B. Jeremy W Rodney D and Felicia Who sent us Felicia M from Alaska since a nice? postcard Very nice postcard there of Alaska of a glacier which by the way is still there It hasn't melted there were supposed to all be gone by now. Isn't that interesting?

Starting point is 00:52:05 And I wanted to say a special thank you to a couple who wanted to remain anonymous. And they said, �Heard you talking about what happened with Rockfan.� I was appalled. But they said that, you know, as they pointed out, we know that God is the one who will provide. We know that God is the one who will provide, but they stepped up and they said, �We wanted to send you a check to cover what you lost on Rockfin, plus our usual monthly checks.� I really do appreciate that. That is really kind. Thank you very much.

Starting point is 00:52:38 I�ll just mention this as well. This is from John S. He said, he said, he wanted to say, I love Tony at Wise Wolf with his historical knowledge and his perspective. I feel sorry for the gullible who did not realize the digital pathway created from his or any other gold or silver coin sells to you the receiver. So, you know, he agrees with Katharine Austen-Fitz that it is a pump and dump. But of course, you can also get out of that and into gold at Tony's place. So, again, he has dealt with Bitcoin in the past. It is something that has been very volatile in the past, and it's not something that I'm really interested in. But as a matter of fact, we got somebody on today

Starting point is 00:53:26 who is also somebody who, she's actually a Bitcoin advocate. But I wanted to get her on because she had a lot of things to say about our society and why it is so divided and other things like that, even more so than the Bitcoin. But I'm gonna ask her about that. We'll see if she can change my mind on it. But again, it's about not giving you advice as to what you need to do, but he'll make that possible.

Starting point is 00:53:54 I like the gold, I like the silver, because I like privacy, and I like the fact that I'm getting out of the system. And I do share Catherine Austin Fitt's concerns and so does Tony about this possibly being rigged and what might happen with it in the future. But he had, the reason I brought this up primarily was because, and I know many of you know this, you can get more eggs out of the chickens. He said if you add lighting 18 hours a day, you can get them to lay eggs

Starting point is 00:54:25 like crazy. He says he also has a fuel-less generator from Creative Science and Research. And he says they've got, he bought the 92% kit but you can purchase plans. The latest one he says makes 15 kilowatts. So that's kind of interesting. We're going to take a look at that and see what that is about. Finally, this is a card from Stacey. She said, I'm so happy that your boy Travis and his beautiful wife and Whistler's nephew are home. You miss Travis, but I miss hearing your mom chuckling

Starting point is 00:54:58 at your dad's creative choice of words. Karen, you are awesome, or were awesome, and she is. And I do miss that as well. Travis doesn't think I'm that funny, actually. But I wanna talk a little bit about what is going on with, what is going on with the pharmaceutical stuff on this angle. RFK Jr. now wants the CDC to stop recommending COVID shots for kids. Isn't that nice? And that's good, you know. I mean, you shouldn't recommend them. You shouldn't push them. And they do have

Starting point is 00:55:33 them on the childhood vaccine schedule, which is very important because that gives them a special kind of immunity. But this is the same type of thing. And I said this when it was done in Florida with Joseph Latipo, who's the Surgeon General in Florida under DeSantis, he stopped recommending the COVID shots. And yet, and it might have been just for a class of people, I can't remember if it was for kids and the elderly or what it was, but I think there was a caveat even for the age groups as well. And that's what he's saying here. Stop recommending it for kids. Stop

Starting point is 00:56:08 recommending it for anybody, number one. Number two, this is a bio-weapon injection. You ought to stop it. I'm glad that he's doing this, but I said that when it was for it. I said that's, you're the only people that are even saying we don't recommend it. But how pathetic is that? And how does that show us what a chokehold this criminal industry has on our government that even the ones who are the most giving us the most pushback, all they can do is say, well, I wouldn't recommend it for this group or that group.

Starting point is 00:56:40 That's basically the stuff that I criticized Tucker Carlson for doing on Fox News. They would always bring that guy Mark Siegel on. He was a medical doctor and you know, he was push, push, push, push, push the vaccine. They'd come back from and they would put him on so that Tucker would throw to him or whatever and people would cut it out. They would cut out Tucker throwing it and put it up on social media for a song. And so they put it on there and Tucker would kind of reluctantly throw to him. And then he would give his spiel about how, oh, everybody's got to have the vaccine. It's our only hope and all the rest of this stuff. And it's perfectly, it's 100% safe, 100% effective, yada yada. And he would come back and Tucker would kind of do an eye roll and say, well, I'm not getting it. He said that once, at least. Maybe he said it more

Starting point is 00:57:30 than once. I only saw him say it once. Well, that's the same type of thing here. Here's R.F.K. Jr. Well, I wouldn't give it to my kids, you know, but I'm not going to stop them. And I'm not going to tell you why I wouldn't give it to my kids. I'm not going to tell you why I'm not going to take it. wouldn't give it to my kids. I'm not gonna tell you why I'm not gonna take it because They've got control over me they had control over Tucker because they were paying is what 25 million dollar a year salary what are mostly coming from sponsors like them and You know, it just shows how controlled these people are that the best you're going to get is say well

Starting point is 00:58:07 I'm gonna remove the recommendation to get it. It's a bio weapon. You really think that he's going to stop the bio weapon that Trump is so proud of as the father? I'm the father of the bio weapon, right? And then we have the other extreme in New York. In New York, they have, and this is not the first rodeo, they've done this several times, they've put out a bill for mandatory vaccine reporting for adults in New York State.

Starting point is 00:58:32 Mandatory vaccine reporting for adults even. And it hasn't passed in the, you know, when they brought it up before. We don't know what's going to happen this time around. This time around, to help make it pass, he leans into the left-right divide and he renames his bill the RFK Jr. Act. And he's got a nice little acronym there. It supposedly stands for Registry for Keeping Justified Records Act or the RFK Jr. Act. Yeah. act or the RFK JR act yeah and they write it with a space between the RFK and the

Starting point is 00:59:08 J and lowercase R just so you understand so they're hoping that they can get it through now because they've added their left right tribalism to it but what is it actually is health care providers will be required to report when they administer a vaccine to an adult unless a patient opts out. The database, what it does is you're tracking everyone who's gotten a shot. You can track anyone who hasn't gotten a shot and you can use that to punish them. Now I don't know in this particular bill if they have a box there that says refused. But you see that was there under the Trump administration. The CDC put out the rules and I remember they put them out in August of 2020 and I

Starting point is 00:59:54 reported on it and I showed the document that was leaked. They had it in a couple of states they had sent it out as a trial and then in October they sent out this form everybody was okay with it. I wasn't and they sent the it out as a trial. And then in October they sent out this form. Everybody was okay with it. I wasn't. And they sent the thing out in October of 2020. And I looked at it and it's like, okay, it's got everybody's complete personal information on it. Name, address, social security, all of us, you know, you name it. Everything there. And then it says, you know, what the dates that you got the first shot and the booster and who manufactured it and the lot number. And then the only other piece of information on there was a box that said refused. I said, look at that. Look at that. You could make

Starting point is 01:00:42 an argument that tracking the lot number was to see if there was some kind of a medical issue with this or something. And of course, obviously there was a medical issue with it. They knew it, and they knew. As Naomi Wolf went back and looked at the, collated the injuries to the lot numbers, because now they could get to that information,

Starting point is 01:01:03 which is what they wanted to do. And she saw that the batches that were correlated to it was concentrated in just a few of them. And they went back and looked more. They found that the difference between different batches, the concentration of ingredients varied by a factor of 33. Some people got a 33 times stronger dose than other people did. That's why it wasn't across the board and that was deliberate. And you were the lab rats for them because you know one of the things that they want to to find out even if it was

Starting point is 01:01:35 they were even if it were a legitimate medication or something they would want to know how much what dosage was going to be effective and what dosage was going to be effective and what dosage was going to be dangerous. And they probably want to know the same thing there, but they weren't trying to help anybody. And so, you know, but the key thing too, was the fact refuse.

Starting point is 01:01:58 I said, why would they need to have that? Why would the CDC need to know if I had refused something? Well, they're saying, I don't know if it's on this form, when I they're saying, I don't know if it's on this form when I read this article, I don't know if it's on the form, or they're saying that it could be inferred. In other words, if you're not in their database, then you're a refuse-nic, right? You're either with us or you're against us and our pharmaceutical masters. So I don't know which it was, but I do know that under Trump and in August 2020, the CDC

Starting point is 01:02:26 put up a form that was going to track the people who had refused this. I know that's where they want to go. A mandatory database would, quote, lay the groundwork for digital vaccine passports, they said. That's exactly the point I made in August of 2020. What could be better for the vaccine industry than to have a government mandated database? One person is basically free marketing for them. That's one of the beauties of the whole vaccine business.

Starting point is 01:02:54 You don't have to advertise. You have government entities working to move your product. Yeah, the advertisement is not to get people to sign up for your pharmaceutical stuff. The advertising is there to pay off people like Tucker to keep quiet. That's why it's there. And then I saw this on Vaccine Impact. It was over in the corner and I had missed this back in 2017 and it's there at VaccineImpact.com. It's the story, the headline is, German Supreme Court Upholes Biologists' Claim

Starting point is 01:03:28 That Measles Virus Does Not Exist. This is back in 2017, eight years ago. Could there be something wrong with the germ theory? He says, yeah. A recent episode, and this is back in 2017, so it's not so recent now, recent when he put it up on the site. A recent episode in 2017 in Germany created a suppressed stir in the field of microbiology when microbiologist Dr. Stefan Lanker claimed that he would award anyone 100,000 euros who could prove the existence of the measles virus.

Starting point is 01:04:03 At first it appeared that he had lost, but Dr. Lanka took his loss to a higher court with more experts. I like this. I have no idea how in the world did I miss this. It was in March of 2017. And I was really working more as a reporter. I wasn't doing a kind of a survey of all the news and everything I could do. You know, when I have my own show. My own show started in August, five months later. So I missed this. He had the backing of two independent laboratories. And so at first they said, well, I think we got you here.

Starting point is 01:04:36 He said, no, that's not proof. And he took it to a court and the court sided with him and said, no, that doesn't prove this. They've isolated measles. It turns out that so-called proof provided was a composite of several different electron microscope images. And the composite involved different components of damaged cells. And the composite could not be duplicated.

Starting point is 01:05:02 You see, this is where the scientism comes in and science goes out the door. If you tell somebody you've got something – we've seen this happen over and over again with cold fusion, for example. Oh, look at this! I've got fusion at room temperature. Oh, yeah? Show us the data. Show us the thing and we'll see if we can reproduce that. Sorry, we can't reproduce it. Nobody else can reproduce it. It didn't exist. They just throw it out. And that needs to be done with these types of claims as well. You need to show me your work. Show me your data. Can I duplicate it? If nobody can duplicate what you claim that you did, then we don't believe you." And the German Federal Supreme Court didn't

Starting point is 01:05:45 believe this guy either, so he put up a hundred thousand euro prize if somebody could prove the existence of a measles virus. And nobody could. Nobody could. So why is all this panic out of the mainstream media? Oh, we got 600 cases, we got 700 cases of measles. It's like, okay, so what? Do you even have a virus? People who had the rash and the rash disappears and unfortunately the child dies because of something happened after they had the rash that was identified as measles, and because of what the parents say was alleged

Starting point is 01:06:27 was malpractice, and yet the media is still pushing that out. We've had two kids who've died from this. No, you know, I have one, if you look at the details. You have two children who died, but not from that So, how are they making MMR vaccines with attenuated measles viruses? That's what he wants to know right if the virus doesn't exist. How do you attenuate it? Well, you know, you just got these viruses and they're dead or weakened or attenuate We just had some aluminum and mercury and all that kind of stuff. You can do that for Trump Can't you?

Starting point is 01:07:05 You know, as Alex was saying. Yeah. Okay. So, he and several other virologists have also challenged the HIV virus. And boy, that gets you purged. And it got a lot of people purged. They said, that's not a virus. And even if so, how could that cause AIDS?

Starting point is 01:07:25 Some question how one virus could cause a myriad of diseases. They all question the fact that the virus is not isolated in diagnosis. Not in diagnosis. Then again, this is the HIV stuff that goes back to Fauci's first rodeo with Carey Mullis and the PCR. Carey Mullis said, well, you know, you can't Keri Mullis and the PCR. And Keri Mullis said, well, you can't prove HIV exists by using the PCR. It's not a diagnostic tool.

Starting point is 01:07:51 You can find anything that you're looking for in it. That's not isolating it at all. That's not how this thing works. But Foushee got away with it, and that's what he used in 2020. Instead, unreliable antibody tests were performed to put someone into life or death crisis over a virus that many claim doesn't even exist. Objectively examined the results of all the recent epidemic viral threats. And again, this is back in 2007. So what were they talking about then? Bird flu, first one on the list, bird flu, swine flu, Ebola, Zika. These certainly created a panic for more vaccines getting

Starting point is 01:08:28 rushed into existence as well as getting more people vaccinated. The one germ, one disease theory certainly seems to be a great business model though for the medical, pharmaceutical, industrial complex because hey, if we got one disease, one shot, that's how we get to 76 different shots for the kids, right? Of course a lot of those are multiple boosters. Sometimes they hit the kids three or four times to get to that 76 for the same particular thing. Are the weapons creating chronic debilitating diseases in exchange for acute illnesses considered

Starting point is 01:09:01 infectious that most manage to get over renewed resilience to the dreaded pathogenic microbes blamed for all illnesses? Are we actually destroying our immune system with our war on microbes?" In other words, what they're saying is an acute illness. You might get a rash or something, and we call that measles, but it goes away. And is it really worth this short acute illness of a rash, maybe a fever, that type of thing? It's going to go away in a couple of days. Is it really worth that to have a debilitating disease that you're going to have for the rest of your life like autism?

Starting point is 01:09:38 Because you've been shot over and over again with the MMR and all the, you know, you just take a little bit of aluminum and formaldehyde and all that kind of stuff in there, that's okay, right? Yeah. Do it for the pharmaceutical companies. Do it for Trump. Ever since Pasteur's claim to fame as the father of the germ theory, our overall health has decreased while lifespans have increased. Now there have been many scientists announcing Pasteur's model of disease, even providing

Starting point is 01:10:04 evidence that he was a plagiarist and a fraud, which I was surprised to see. Someone sent me a book with that going over his diary. As early as the late 19th century, the 1800s, German biologist Dr. Rudolf Virchow, known as the father of pathology, made this statement. He said, �If I could live my life over again, I would devote it to proving� what? �that germs seek their natural habitat, diseased tissue, rather than being the cause of the diseased tissue.� This guy is a pathologist. He studies diseased tissue. This guy is a pathologist. He studies diseased tissue.

Starting point is 01:10:45 And he thinks that it's not cause but effect that you have the bacteria there. The bacteria is not causing the diseased tissue. The bacteria is there because the tissue is diseased. He said, for example, mosquitoes seek stagnant water, but do not cause the pool to become stagnant." And so yeah, and there's also of course things coming up out of the water. I always think about Charles Darwin. When we took the kids to the British Museum, they have a shrine there to Charles Darwin,

Starting point is 01:11:25 and you can see his desk and all the tools that he had. And he's got like a little magnifying glass that you would use if you're having trouble reading when you're elderly, you know, that type of thing. It's like, that's it? No wonder he got it so wrong. He would look at a glass of stagnant water and he thought that the water was causing spontaneous generation of life. He didn't understand that there were microbes in there that were reproducing to such an

Starting point is 01:12:00 extent that you could actually see them. It wasn't life coming from non-life. It was life that he couldn't see. It was getting large enough. That's basically what this guy was saying. You know, the mosquitoes are not � mosquitoes seek out stagnant water. They don't cause the pool to become stagnant. And, you know, water does not give birth to life. We still have people doing that, though, don't they? I mean, you still have the astronomers who look through the telescope and they say, oh, that planet's got water,

Starting point is 01:12:35 therefore there's life as we know it. Well, no, that's a necessary condition for that life, but it doesn't create it. Doesn't create it. Cause and effect. We're gonna take a quick break, we'll be right back. So So So You're listening to the David Knight Show. All right, welcome back and on Rumble, DG8, thank you. He says, David, imagine real ID during COVID. I warned people about it and their shocking response is Trump wouldn't do anything to

Starting point is 01:14:37 harm Americans or our rights, except we have 2020. They're like his media. They question nothing. Yeah, that's right. He puts them to sleep and, you know, he wasn't against real ID. And of course, they have created this problem. And it's a real problem. You know, bringing in millions of people, single, young, adults and everything.

Starting point is 01:14:59 Come on. This is not the Ellis Island experience or the Plymouth Rock experience at all. Those people, when they came here, they weren't coming here for welfare. That didn't exist. And they were going to have to be self-sufficient. And if they didn't have anything except the clothes on their back, they would come here for liberty and they worked hard. And that's why I say get rid of the welfare magnet. If there's no welfare magnet and people want to come in and work, we need people who want to work hard.

Starting point is 01:15:37 And so, but yeah, this is a completely separate thing. And it was designed to create a problem because they had a solution in mind already. On Rumble, Mac Pool, thank you very much. I appreciate that. That's very kind. Thanks and good luck. And also on Rumble, Geesebusters, good to see you.

Starting point is 01:15:54 Thank you so much for that. I appreciate that as well. I also left a tip on Rumble. And on Rumble, Honor Seeker, thank you. And then they write, David, thank you for all you do. You guys are greatly appreciated. Well, thank you very much. And I really do appreciate the people who support us.

Starting point is 01:16:09 That is a, you know, we try to put it out there for free because we want people to get this information, but, you know, it is just voluntary. So we really do appreciate that. Let's talk a little bit about this article from the New York Times. I thought it was truly amazing. The New York Times asks, what do we owe this cluster of cells? Stop and think about it, right? And in this context, they're not talking about abortion necessarily directly.

Starting point is 01:16:40 They're talking about in vitro fertilization, fertilization in the glass. That's what in vitro means. And this story is from AnswersInGenesis.org. By the way, I would highly recommend their curriculum for kids. It's what we used. It had great stuff in it. And they've got a great creation museum as well as the Ark experience. If you go up to, as a matter of fact, behind me over here,

Starting point is 01:17:05 that's the thing from the ARC experience. But the Creation Museum, what they'll do is they'll say, okay, here's the evidence that we've got. And the creationists will understand it this way, and the evolutionists will understand it this way. And here's another piece of evidence. Here's the interpretation of these two sides. That's a great way to

Starting point is 01:17:25 train kids for critical thinking. And it's also important that they understand that the Bible is not a bunch of fairy tales at all. Anyway, so this is from the New York Times. A mother of one baby and a journalist, she conceived that baby via IVF. She still has six babies that are frozen. And so she said, what do I owe this cluster of cells? You know, we've had so-called medical ethicists. Peter Singer, I think, was the guy's name. And he said, you know, well, I mean, it's basically developmental. If, you know, we could, by his definition, we could kill toddlers, because they're not up to the level that he would arbitrarily set as a good quality of life.

Starting point is 01:18:15 So we would kill people with Down syndrome, we'd kill toddlers, we'd kill all kinds of people, right? This is the path. And then at the end of life, the end of life, if you've lost mineral capacities, it will kill you there too as well. It turns into a culture of death once you start to do that. And so when you just say, well, it's a cluster of cells, well, how many cells do you have to have?

Starting point is 01:18:36 Because these things multiply very, very rapidly. So at what point are you going to recognize this as a human being? A worldview that views embryos as nothing more than a cluster of cells is a worldview that can be manipulated. And these cells can be discarded at the will of parents or doctors or embryologists or governments either, right? And so she shows a picture of the embryo. She says, this is the embryo that became my daughter.

Starting point is 01:19:07 And I said, notice the word became. That cluster of cells is a unique person with a combination of DNA that has never been seen before, will never be seen again, DNA that codes for sex, for hair color, for eye color, skin shade, so much more. And she writes in the New York Times, she said though, I'm now the parent of a toddler I love more than I could have ever imagined and in possession of six remaining embryos frozen and waiting for my decision on their fate. She said, I have a complicated relationship with them, and I vacillate between wanting

Starting point is 01:19:45 the finality of deciding and holding on to the possibility that they might one day, under circumstances yet unknown, come to life. And so Answers in Genesis comments and says, well, she knows she holds the power of life and death over these unborn children. She only has a, quote, complicated relationship with them because she refuses to recognize their humanity. You see this is where it all begins. This is where all the eugenics and the mass murder and the wars, this is where it all begins. It's the ethics of mass murder, it's the ethics of slavery.

Starting point is 01:20:20 That person's not fully human. You know, the slaves aren't fully human. That ethnic group is not fully human. You know, the slaves aren't fully human. That ethnic group is not fully human. That nationality is not fully human. And then on the basis of removing that humanity from them, now you're free to do them whatever you wish. The article features interviews with a variety of scientists involved with experiments on embryos some of whom struggle with the ethics of their work, others who see the destruction of life as a non-issue. One scientist was involved with the first embryos grown to 14 days, which is the current guideline for how long a baby can be grown in a lab, and the author describes the end

Starting point is 01:21:01 of the so-called experiment. These embryos, answers in Genesis, are unique people made in God's image, and they are just referred to as samples that deserve nothing more than being photographed and then tossed as medical waste. This is the culture of death. Scientists who believe in this kind of research and are pushing to be allowed to grow embryos past 14 days believe they're helping humanity by doing so. You know, I mentioned earlier this week Scott Schera, his trial is coming up for his daughter Grace.

Starting point is 01:21:39 I think it was ouramazinggrace.net. Double check me on that, Travis. And anyway, he's telling people the trial is coming up. So that you can follow the trial so that if you're in the area, you can go and support them and show support. But, you know, it was, is that what it was, OurAmazingGrace.net, okay.

Starting point is 01:22:02 And it's a tribute to her life. She was dearly loved by her family, had a very rich and full life. She got sick during the COVID lockdown nonsense. They isolated her from her family and killed her. And it's not malpractice. The judge is going to allow the charge of wrongful death to be adjudicated. I don't know if that's exactly the charge that's there, but it's not malpractice.'s beyond that. But they put do not resuscitate on, and he believes that it was because she had Down syndrome. And, you know, when you look at these people who are eugenicists, and in this article they go on and they talk about another article that is in the series, an opinion piece, �Should

Starting point is 01:22:47 Human Life Be Optimized?� And it�s a story of Noor Sadiqi who founded a genetic screening company. Her mother went blind in her thirties due to a spontaneous mutation in her DNA which prompted the daughter to eventually found this company as a way of screening out people who might have that genetic defect. And as I point out, in other words, she screens embryos to ensure that children like her mother are never born. Rather, those embryos are destroyed and healthier. Better embryos are embraced instead.

Starting point is 01:23:26 And so this is the eugenics that is there. And this is why when we were older, when we had our child and Whistler, and Whistler's mother refused the amniocentesis because, you know, like any procedure has got a possibility of something harming, right? And we looked at it and it's like, well, we're not going to do an abortion even if it comes back positive. And Karen had a very dear friend who's now passed on on died of breast cancer. And she had twins and they did the test. She was a nurse and she would do all the medical stuff. And it came back positive

Starting point is 01:24:15 and they were right. One of the children had Down syndrome. They would have killed both of them. And so they had a perfectly normal child and the child who had Down syndrome. They would have killed both of them. And so they had a perfectly normal child and the child who had Down syndrome was a real blessing, also a challenge, no doubt about it, but also dearly loved and a blessing as well. And so, you know, this is the type of thing. As a matter of fact, this woman would have aborted her own mother. She wouldn't even exist if people had had this kind of eugenics that is there. So as answers in Genesis says, potentially, potentially saving future babies does not justify the present killing of babies. The end and the good intentions towards an end

Starting point is 01:24:59 do not justify a bad means. We talk about this when we talk about wars. The company also goes further offering what is known as polygenic screening, which gives parents what is essentially a risk profile on each embryo's propensity for conditions such as heart disease. But guess what? We're all going to die. Sorry, your child is going to be human, which means that they're going to die of something. So maybe we should just abort them now. It is really kind of insane logic if you look at it, but it is also eugenics. The idea that you're going to have a perfect baby and everybody else gets thrown on the trash heap.

Starting point is 01:25:42 The person who put this together, Nur Sadiqi, says sex is for fun and embryo screening is for babies and it's going to become insane not to screen for these things. One person replied and said well genetic testing is for eugenicists and eugenics is for Nazis. Well let's just make it more contemporary and let's just say eugenics is for Nazis. Well, let's just make it more contemporary, and let's just say eugenics is for totalitarian technocracies like Brave New World. That's really what we're talking about here.

Starting point is 01:26:12 That's a much better picture, much more comprehensive, much more indicative of where this is all headed. We're going to have the government doing the eugenics for everyone. And so Answers in Genesis says both the articles were very long filled with ethical questions and quote unquote answers from researchers who are desperately trying to justify their destruction of human life, but ultimately it's only the biblical worldview that can give final and subtle answers to these ethical questions and it's really simple. We are not God. All these people

Starting point is 01:26:45 who are doing this, the scientists, the government people, they all think that they're God, but they're not. We don't have the authority to decide who lives and who dies. We don't have a justification to remove somebody's humanity from them because they're not as smart as we are, or because they have some debilitating thing, whether it's physical or mental or whatever, or because they don't have a life expectancy that is very long. How long do you expect that you're going to live? None of us knows if we're going to live till tomorrow.

Starting point is 01:27:19 So how in the world can you justify killing somebody because you don't expect them to live? world can you justify killing somebody because you don't expect them to live. So we don't get to create life, we can destroy it however. Every life, no matter the age or the level of development or the location or the level of ability or the future health risks, everyone is made in God's image and therefore has sanctity and value. This folks is the key thing that stands in direct opposition to people like B.F. Skinner and his Beyond Freedom and Dignity. He wants to treat you

Starting point is 01:27:51 like an animal and he thinks that he's God. So again, all of that applies to different ethnicities, different nationalities as well. And you don't get a get out of hell free card to do mass murder because you label somebody Amalekites or something, right? Because you've got a prophecy that you've interpreted. You don't get to do that. Look, God removed Israel out of the land once and He used horrible people to do it. He told them how horrible they were going to be. And then He judged the people who did it, even though He had ordained that. Do you want to be that person?

Starting point is 01:28:34 Do you want to be the Babylonians or the Assyrians or whatever? Do you want to be the people that are removing people out of the land? And because God judged those people as well. Well, while we're talking about children and families and adoption, we had Boudier go on a broadcast. And he said when he and his pal, he calls his husband,

Starting point is 01:29:02 same-sex mirage, he said when they adopted, he said he realized that they got lists. You can get on a list and say, �I only want a white kid.� And he said, �That takes longer and it costs more money.� So I guess they went the cheap route. He says, �We didn't have to pay a deposit on the fetus if you didnít want only white kids.î And he says, ìThatís really kind of racist.î And itís like, ìYeah, it is.î And for him, the way heís talking about it, of course, probably is, itís a commercial transaction, buying and selling. It's absolutely amazing. He points out there's a long line, and so yeah, there is a long line for adopting kids. So why do you have two guys on that list when

Starting point is 01:29:58 there are intact normal families? And I say normal because families are defined by God, not by the Supreme Court, not by booty gay, not by these leftist Marxists. God has defined what a family is. And unfortunately, it's difficult to keep that together in America. Divorce has become widely accepted, and it's a tragedy for everybody that's involved in it. But God has defined what a family is, and that should be what we aspire to, even if we can't achieve it in our life. In 2021, black children represented 14% of the nation's total population, but accounted

Starting point is 01:30:39 for 22% of all kids in foster care. A 2023 study found that white children were 1.27 times more likely to be adopted than black children. Well, I'll tell you what our experience was. I mean, before we adopted from China and before we did the open adoption with Travis, we had contacted North Carolina Children's Home, Karen contacted them, and she said, I'd like to know you do adopt. Well, we don't do adopt adoptions if we did adoptions. What would we do? I mean, we'd be out of business. That's what they told her on the phone Some business for them. Oh, so your child traffickers. Okay, we got it

Starting point is 01:31:13 and then we go to another meeting and you know, it was about adoption and We went in and and the place was standing room only. It was packed. By the fire inspector, would have given them a ticket. And they said, well, okay, you're all white and we don't do interracial adoption. So we don't have any kids for you. If you're black or if you know anybody who's black,

Starting point is 01:31:38 we have lots of black kids that are up for adoption, but you don't have any white kids that are up for adoption. We're not gonna allow you to adopt either. And that was the situation there. Now they changed that in North Carolina. Subsequent years, we have some friends there and they were able to adopt a sibling group where the parents are gone and they were black and the parents and the family that adopted them was white. So that's not there anymore. In 2015, Foster Care Newsletter reported that it cost approximately $35,000 to adopt a white

Starting point is 01:32:13 child but only $18,000 for a black child. And that's what Boudegay was saying. Yeah, we got our child cheaper and faster. So actually they adopted two. Two. Yeah. When interracial adoptions first began to take off in the 1970s, some organizations including the National Association of Black Social Workers advised against interracial adoption. Yeah, it goes both ways. There are a lot of people who didn't want that. Now, here's a positive story.

Starting point is 01:32:45 And I like to give positive stories, and there are so few of them, especially when we're talking about celebrities. This is Jay Leno talking about his wife with dementia. It's really rare, really rare that we see somebody who is wealthy and well-known, celebrity, and has character. So he's opening up about what life now looks like as he's caring for his wife, Mavis, following her dementia diagnosis. In January he revealed that laughter has remained their lifeline. He said, and they've been married since 1980, he went public with her dementia diagnosis and he has now

Starting point is 01:33:33 been granted conservatorship to manage her care. And I thought, what's up with that? I mean, they've been married for 45 years. They have to go to a court to get conservatorship? I don't understand. Anyway, he explained that while the dynamic of their decades-long marriage has shifted, he says in essence it hasn't. He says it's basically what we did before except now I have to feed her and do all those things. But I like it. I like taking care of her. She's a very independent woman, so I like that I meet it. He said when you you get married, you take a vow. Will I live up to this?

Starting point is 01:34:09 Or will I be like a sleazy guy if something happens to my wife? I'm banging the cashier at the mini-mart. No, I didn't. I enjoy the time with my wife. I go home, I cook dinner for her, we watch TV and it's okay. What a contrast to somebody I know named Donald Trump. I've got a sleazy eye. What if instead of just abandoning her, what if you threw her to the wolves and publicly

Starting point is 01:34:39 humiliated her as he does as employees when he fires them as well? He says it's not easy, but it is exactly where he wants to be. He says that's a challenge isn't it? When you have to feed somebody, when you have to change them, you have to carry them to the bathroom and do all that stuff every day, it's a challenge. And it's not that I enjoy doing it, but I guess I enjoy doing it, he said. He said I'm glad that I didn't run off with some woman half my age or any other silly nonsense.

Starting point is 01:35:06 I would rather be with her than doing something else.î He said. ìThey spendî ñ this is how I thought it was funny ñ ìthey spend time watching the Tonight Show together, reruns on YouTube.î He said, ìI still make her laugh every day.î He said, ìShe enjoyed watching his old headlines segments on YouTube. My wife enjoys those.î And itís like she forgets that she just saw it. He says, so she laughs again at the same jokes. So for a comedian, that's great. He keeps telling her the same jokes and she thinks it's funny each time.

Starting point is 01:35:40 He said, sticking with Mavis is not just about loyalty. It's about choosing love every day. That's it. So he's not doing this out of duty, he's not doing it out of stoicism. I made this oath, I've got to do it. No, he's doing it out of love. Isn't that amazing? And so what about our children?

Starting point is 01:36:02 What about homeschooling them? This is a piece from themeses.org by Lou Rockwell and he gets it. He gets it. He says the title of this is the menace of public education and he emphasizes the public with air quotes, right? It's the public education. Like I said, it's public education, it's public health, it's public transportation. We've got to get the public out of our lives. They don't belong there. They're going to come in and start making demands that just ignore the individual.

Starting point is 01:36:40 He says, parents are rightly concerned about what's happening in our so-called public schools. Crazed educators� and he puts the educators in quote �are encouraging impressionable children to try to transition to another sex as if that was something possible. Students are taught sexual promiscuity is good. They're brainwashed to accept socialist attacks on our free enterprise system.� Yeah, isn't that interesting, you know, how thoroughly immersed we are in Brave New World. You know, I began by talking about eugenics. Test tube babies are going to lead to hatcheries and all the rest of this stuff, full-on eugenics. And, you know, I've seen people have talked about it in the past and, you know, do we live more

Starting point is 01:37:20 in a Brave New World or do we live in 1984 or well as 1984 and I said well I you know my opinion is I think we live in both of them I think they give us the brave new world experience and then if we're not content to live that world then we get the 1984 experience right they? They go Orwellian on us. The Trump administration, he says, and governors like Ron DeSantis have tried to solve the problem by issuing directive to schools, but he doesn't think that's going to happen just like I don't think it's going to happen. He says, teachers who have been indoctrinating our children are well entrenched, and it will

Starting point is 01:38:01 be extremely difficult to curb their baleful influence and they have gone online saying you know in Texas Abbott put in some reforms and they said well I'm not going to teach that I'll teach them what I want to teach you know they're my classroom there's nobody watching I can say anything that I want to I can do anything I want to I can show them anything I want to that's the reality and that was one of the things that woke up a lot of people during the lockdown when they saw what was happening in some of these classrooms. No matter how much good these efforts may accomplish, they fail to deal with the real

Starting point is 01:38:34 problem and that is the very existence of public education. Schools run by the state are inherently institutions that propagandize what the state wants school children to learn. And Lee Rockwell quotes Murray Rothbard. He said, Murray Rothbard said, �The key issue is simply this. Shall the parent or the state be the overseer of the child? An essential feature of human life is that for many years the child is relatively helpless. His powers are providing for himself himself mature late. And until these powers are fully developed, he cannot completely act for himself as a

Starting point is 01:39:10 responsible individual. He must be under tutelage. This tutelage is a complex and difficult task. From an infancy of complete dependency and subjection to adults the child must grow up gradually the question is under whose guidance and whose virtual ownership quote-unquote the child should be his parents in the states you know we have Melissa Harris Perry say you gotta get over this notion that parents own their children well if they don't own their children

Starting point is 01:39:40 who does it's a virtual ownership somebody's gotta take responsibility for them oh well the state should be doing that the community the village Now that's the village doesn't act together. Right? It's just like public health. There's there's so it's going to be some politician that's going to be Setting the policy for what all this stuff is and you know Murray Rothbard looks at this from a Looks at it from an economic standpoint looks at this from a, looks at it from an economic standpoint, looks at it from a philosophical standpoint, looks at it from a liberty standpoint.

Starting point is 01:40:11 As I pointed out before, R.L. Dabney in the 1870s looked at it from a religious standpoint. And it's like, okay, you know, this person is saying, well, who's going to be the parent? You know, somebody's got to be the parent? Somebody's got to be the parent. Is it going to be the state or is it going to be the person? R.L. Dabney said, well, religion is going to be taught one way or the other. The question is, whose religion? Is it going to be the religion of the state?

Starting point is 01:40:35 Is it going to be somebody else's state religion? Well then we get rid of the First Amendment, right? Because you will be establishing a religion and our schools have established a religion. That's why everything is so bad. It's a bad religion. Anyway, the question is under whose guidance? There is no third or middle ground. Some party will control and no one suggests that some individual third party have authority

Starting point is 01:40:59 to seize the child and to rear it. Well, that was when Murray Rothbard's time, but now they have. He said the parents are the most intimate relationship to them. The parents have the ties of family affection to the child. The parents are interested in the child as an individual and are the most likely to be interested and familiar with his requirements and personality. The one who knows them best and who loves them the most. And yes, there are bad parents out there. But we don't make these rules based on exceptions. If the state takes over schooling,

Starting point is 01:41:34 this is a clear violation of the parents' rights. The only logical alternative to parental ownership is for the child of the child is for the state to seize the infant from the parents and to rear it completely itself." Which is really where all this embryonic eugenics and everything is ultimately going to. It's ultimately going to brave new world.

Starting point is 01:41:54 And this is not a new idea. Plato had suggested that in his republic. Yeah, we're going to have a couple of different classes of citizens. We'll have the elites and we'll have the guards and the strong police force and everything. And then we'll have the other people. We don't want them to even know who their parents are. We want them to see the state as their parents. And of course Huxley just added some scientific manipulation to it to say we're going to force these kids into these different strata. But ultimately and inevitably this type of attitude is going to take us to eugenics. It's not just that the technology is doing it.

Starting point is 01:42:37 It's that we're being prepared mentally, culturally, spiritually for this type of thing. What will the state teach? You might think that this would depend on the kind of state that it is, and to some extent, that's true. Schools under Trump will differ from those under Biden, but there is nevertheless an underlying pressure that leads the state to impose uniformity and to teach obedience to the government. Rothbard said it is inevitable that the state would impose

Starting point is 01:43:07 uniformity on the teaching of charges not only is uniformity more congenial to the bureaucratic temper and easier to enforce this would be almost inevitable where collectivism has supplanted individualism. Have we gotten to that point yet? I think we have. Everybody sees themselves as part followers of some leader or part of a party or movement. It's very rare to see people stand apart from an organization, identify themselves as an individual. I guess that was one of the things I loved about Last of the Mohicans, you know, is that character that was so American at the time that James Fenimore Cooper wrote it. You know,

Starting point is 01:43:55 I'm not with the British and I'm not necessarily, you know, and I'm with these other Indians, the French and Indian War, he wasn't with the French, he wasn't with the British, he wasn't with that Indian tribe, you know, he was there on his own. Above all, what would be taught is the doctrine of obedience to the state itself. For tyranny is not really congenial to the spirit of man who requires freedom for his full development. Therefore techniques of inculcating reverence for despotism and other types of thought control are bound to emerge." Oh, well, they're here. He says, um, Luke Rockwell says Rothbard was a great historian. His theoretical account aligns with what actually

Starting point is 01:44:37 happened. Rothbard had said, America began for the most part with a system of either completely private or with philanthropic schools. Then in the 19th century, the concept of public education changed subtly until everybody was urged to go to public school. Private schools were accused of being divisive. Finally, the state imposed, and the echoes of that were always there, but what about socialism? You know, they didn't say socialism.

Starting point is 01:45:07 How do you socialize your kid or something like that, right? It's like, I don't want him to be socialist. But it's like, what are you doing? And then these are the same people who lock the kids up, who put masks on them, put them in, even if they weren't at school, they put them in, they're on a little plastic bubble and all the rest of stuff. It's like, oh, but what about, you know,

Starting point is 01:45:24 getting to know other people? No, no, you're just talking about how do we build the hive mind? You're going to raise kids that are outside of the hive mind. Finally, the state imposed compulsory education on people, either forcing children to go to public schools or setting up arbitrary standards for private schools. Printel, instruction was frowned upon. Thus, the state has been warring with parents for control over their children." And so he anticipated what we see today.

Starting point is 01:45:53 He said there's going to be a passion for equality in general and for equal results, not for equality of opportunity, but for equality of outcome. The Harrison-Bergeron attitude as Kurt Vonnegut showed it. The result has been a tendency to regard every child as an equal to every other child as deserving equal treatment to impose complete uniformity in the classroom. Since the state began to control education, its evident tendency has been more and more to act in such a manner as to promote repression and hindrance of education. Rather than the true development of the individual, its tendency has been for compulsion, for enforced equality at the lowest level, for the watering down of the subject and even

Starting point is 01:46:45 the abandonment of all formal teaching, for the inculcation of obedience to the state and to the group." And you see, this is why when we see the so-called reforms about the Department of Education, Department of Education's function is not going away. Its primary function is to bribe people and to blackmail people with money. And they're still going to do those grants. They're just going to reorganize it and they're going to make you think for a while that it's gone away. But all the bribery and blackmail and the strings that are attached to it will all still be there. And it will be used by one administration or the other to push their preferred religion, their preferred curriculum.

Starting point is 01:47:32 So yeah, it's the group think of both the left and the right. And their fantasy that if we have just the right president, all the problems will be solved. And quite frankly, that is the path to a civil war as well. Because as both the left and the right gets so rapidly focused on, well, the only way we're going to solve these problems is by getting, you know, our guy in the white house. That's going to be the only outcome. Um, on kick a Syrian girl. Good to see you. Teachers are little Caesars in their

Starting point is 01:48:07 classrooms. They like the power to warp little minds. I don't see things changing in the public cesspools. That's absolutely right. You know what? When I was growing up, there really wasn't a way to opt out. It was all compulsory. Now, Carl Hess, who was older than me, his mother kept moving and kept moving to stay one step out of the truancy officer who would have taken him away. But in general, you had to go to school. Homeschooling was not an option. And I remember you talking about Little Caesar, but I immediately go back to the advanced

Starting point is 01:48:38 science teacher I had in seventh and eighth grade. And she turned me against science. It took about another five years, six years for me to get back into it I was very much into it and she was Just unbelievable as as a to bully the kids in her classroom It really really bothers me as an adult to think about how she ran things there It really bothers me as an adult to think about how she ran things there. On Rumble, DG8 says, David, IVF is from the pits of hell.

Starting point is 01:49:10 God creates life, not scientists in the lab. How many Christians can accept this is crazy? Trusting this Frankenstein science is insane. God help us. Yeah, I mean, it goes, we know where it's going to head. And not any question about that, where the general issue is going to head. We're going to take a quick break, and we'll be right back. The You're listening to the David Knight Show.

Starting point is 01:50:19 Well, we were talking in the last segment about IVF, about eugenics and all the rest of this stuff, and of course it is deciding what is a human being. And it's necessary for us to take away the humanity from human beings in order for us to kill them at the beginning of life or the end of life or after they've been injured. It's also necessary for us to do that if we're going to have a war. And it's kind of interesting, you know, we saw Russia striking Kiev on Wednesday. Trump reacted yesterday. The defense ministry in Russia said that its forces carried out massive strikes on Ukraine,

Starting point is 01:50:54 claiming that it targeted Ukrainian industries linked to its military. Well, they always say that, except that they hit a lot of civilians. The goal of the strike has been accomplished. All targets have been hit," they said. Zelensky said the Russians fired a total of 66 missiles, 145 drones. Ukrainian forces also fired drones at Russian territory, with the Russian Defense Ministry saying its forces downed 90 Ukrainian drones. I'm not sure how many were fired in total, but you know they're doing this exchange. And so as Trump is trying to broker a peace between the two sides and Zelensky says he

Starting point is 01:51:30 doesn't want it, and then Russia fires these drones into, Putin fires these drones into the capital of Ukraine, Kiev, Trump puts out on social media, he says, Vladimir, stop! All uppercase, stop! Five thousand soldiers a week are dying. Let's get the peace deal done, he said. He said, I'm not happy with the Russian strikes on Kiev. Well, good. I absolutely endorse that message.

Starting point is 01:52:01 Vladimir, stop! Let's stop the war. At least five neighborhoods in the capital city were hit. Multiple residential buildings were heavily damaged. On top of the 12 people killed by the bombardment, at least 90 were wounded. However, Trump is very selective in terms of his concern about human life, isn't he? Because while he will tweet out, �Vladimir, stop! People are being killed every day here!� He doesn't do that with Bibi. He doesn't tweet out, �Bibi, stop!�turned-shelter, killed 13 just

Starting point is 01:52:54 in that one location. And they also bombed a children's hospital. And in 24 hours, not 12, but 38 Palestinians were killed in 24 hours. Israeli attacks killed at least 38 Palestinians, wounded 105 over the previous 24 hours. As U.S. backed, Israeli strikes pound targets across the strip. There are still a number of victims under the rubble and on the streets, and ambulance and civil defense crews cannot reach them They said we are sleeping and suddenly something exploded and we started looking and found the whole school on fire

Starting point is 01:53:32 The tents here and there were on fire. Everything was on fire Travis pull up the picture there and that article from anti-war It's a picture of two twin girls being held by their family and let's see that's that's is that the hill? Let's see. Now that's the next one. Israeli attacks kill 38 Palestinians. And this picture, two young girls dead and being held. People were shouting. Men were carrying children, charred people. Yeah. Charred children. And they were walking and saying, Dear God, Dear God, we have no one but you. What else can we say? Dear God only. And there's a picture

Starting point is 01:54:20 of those twin girls being held there. This is why we look at wars. We need to be stopping them, not just in Ukraine. We need to be stopping them in Gaza as well. And we need to stop focusing on killing civilians. And this, unfortunately, is something that really took a big turn for the worse in World War II and has been a hallmark of all of our wars since then. Since Israel started its Genocidal War on March 18th, 1,928 Palestinians have been killed.

Starting point is 01:54:54 5,055 have been injured. Since March 2nd, Israel has maintained a total blockade on Gaza, and they are starving children. And so in the midst of all that, you have the Israeli Defense Minister Ben Gavir goes to Mar-a-Lago and has a luxury decadent feast there as children being murdered and starved. And he says that the Republicans support his plan to bomb food in Gaza. Israeli National Security Minister Ben Gver said on Wednesday that during the meeting at Mar-a-Lago he received support from Republican leadership for his plan to bomb food and aid warehouses in Gaza. They expressed support for my very clear position on how to act in Gaza and that the food and

Starting point is 01:55:47 aid warehouses should be bombed in order to create military and political pressure to bring our hostages home safely," he said. The Trump administration has strongly backed Israel's blockade on aid and the collective punishment of the civilian population in Gaza, which is a clear war crime under international law, writes antiwar.com. I see the reports about the debate over who should deliver a quote unquote humanitarian aid to Gaza, he said. Well, this is fundamentally foolish debate because not a single gram of aid should ever

Starting point is 01:56:20 enter the entire strip as long as our hostages are being held there." So stop and think about this. Let's pull this down, because we talk about big abstractions, and we talk about groups and nations and borders and tribes and ethnicities and all this other kind of stuff. We start to miss the humanity of this. So let's take it down to something that's simple. Let's say that you've got some bank robbers who take over, they get caught in the midst of a robbery and they take the people inside the bank hostage and they say, you're going to give us what

Starting point is 01:56:56 we want or we're going to start killing hostages, right? And how do we view that? If they come out and they slit the throat of one hostage and then they do another one. Well, that's a tragedy, isn't it? But if you slit the throats of 2,000 people, now as Stalin said, it's a statistic, isn't it? No, it's still a tragedy. It's still a tragedy for the family that holds those twin girls in their arms, isn't it? And so it's okay for some people to kill civilians, but it's not okay for other people to kill civilians. And either way, we've got to keep the killing going. It's got to go. It's got to keep going. There's no other alternative.

Starting point is 01:57:36 We've got to have our way. And those people are not real people. They are not the same level as us. That is also a part of it. And so, you give me what I want, I am going to slit their throat. I have got these civilians and I am going to hold them hostage. I mean, is it any different? Right? Gaza, Hamas is holding Israeli hostages and Israel is holding Gazan hostages. Both sides are holding civilians hostage, saying, ìYou give me what I want or Iím

Starting point is 01:58:12 going to kill them. Children in the Gaza Strip are the most severe stages of maltrition and itís difficult to follow them up medically due to the shortage of therapeutic drugs and baby formula, said a physician at one of the hospitals. Dave DeKamp at antiwar.com says, �Ben Gavir is an outspoken proponent of the ethnic cleansing of Gaza for the establishment of Jewish settlements.� You see, that�s what they really want. That�s not even about an exchange of hostages. You know, it's, if it were like that, it would be if Hamas was holding the hostages, taking the hostages and say, okay, you stop bombing and starving people, or we're going to start

Starting point is 01:59:00 slitting the throats of the hostages that we hold. Well, they're not doing that. But of course, they don't care about their own people either, right? Hamas doesn't care about the people in Gaza. Israel doesn't really care about the hostages, the Israeli hostages either. They want the land. Both of these people are playing their particular game. And so we have the Secretary of HHS, R.F.K. Jr., prohibiting NIH scientists from criticizing Israel. You know, it's interesting, isn't it, that while R.F.K. Jr. is talking about healthy food, and they should, and nutrition, he's fully on board

Starting point is 01:59:36 of the government that is starving children to death. Wow. Because of their ethnicity, or because of their nationality or because they unfortunately live in an area that somebody else wants to own. So the NIH is underneath HHS, all underneath R.F.K. Jr. Of course he has said that anti-Semitism is a disease, but I think so is government. So is tyranny a disease. Certainly it is. Lee Feng says the NIH has promised an era of free speech and free expression, but new

Starting point is 02:00:19 rules are attempting to chill speech if it's related to Israel. And they pointed out that there have been recent boycotts of protesting corporations that did business in North Carolina. That was over the bathroom issues. They said we're going to boycott North Carolina. Well, that was okay to them. But you know, or China, whatever, that right no longer exists when it comes to Israel. So researchers, university employees who engage in certain nonviolent protests or political

Starting point is 02:00:47 expression over human rights conditions in Israel may risk civil and criminal penalties, according to a new policy from the National Institute of Health yesterday, the largest public funder of biomedical research in the world, and it touches virtually every corner of the scientific community. The blanket boycott suppression is a radical expansion of the so-called anti-BDS rules that restrict Americans from boycotting or from divestment from Israeli-related businesses. So that's where we are. I mean these principles matter. Principles of free speech, the principles of the sanctity of human life, of not removing

Starting point is 02:01:30 the humanity from people so that you can kill them as a clump of cells or as a clump of people that I don't like. That's the reality. Well, we're going to take a quick break and we're going to connect with our guest who has got a book and I really liked her perspective. It was very positive. And she also talks about Bitcoin things, but mainly I wanted to talk to her about her book, Why the World Doesn't Make Sense.

Starting point is 02:02:03 And she's got a lot of other things as well. You know, are we going to have an empire? Are we going to have freedom? So we're going to talk a little bit about that. But as an introduction to Christine Manitta, I wanted to play this little introduction that she's got to her book, and we'll be right back with her. Hey there, my name is Chris Menitis and I wrote a book called Why the World Doesn't Make Sense, Reclaiming the Liberty You Didn't Know You Lost. For those of you who don't know me,

Starting point is 02:02:34 I help folks at all stages of life learn to think more deeply, challenge the status quo, and find financial and personal freedom, independence, and sovereignty, a word that's not often fully understood. We're living in a time where it feels like the rules keep changing. Where nothing in our secular society, politics, culture, the economy, adds up the way it should. Because we don't understand some pretty fundamental truths and have allowed words and their meanings to be inverted and used against us,

Starting point is 02:03:01 we've sacrificed our nail-inable rights. We've allowed our own government to be manipulated and turned against us, we've sacrificed our nail inable rights. We've allowed our own government to be manipulated and turned against us, allowed the weapon of money to be used against us, allowed a bureaucratic state to develop and control us. We've been distracted from confronting the truths that matter most and have failed to have the words to stand up as truth and first principles thinking were banished from our schools and universities. I could go on and on. thinking were banished from our schools and universities. I could go on and on. The good news is that while we've allowed this to happen, we hold the power to change it. The reality is we should never have to depend upon another person for our own

Starting point is 02:03:34 success, for our own happiness. Elections are great, but if we really want to be free, if we really want it to last, it starts with us, the individual. Another concept, it's high time we understand. I believe it's time for an era of civic renewal to propel us into the next great age of enlightenment. Something special starting to bubble under the surface. Humanity is about to enter its next era and we're the generation that gets to decide what that is, to bring it into reality, to make the next great leaps and advances not just in the sciences but in thought. Darkness, centralization, control, those will always be there in our fallen world. But what

Starting point is 02:04:13 can exist in parallel and perhaps in our next era dominate and far outshine them are truth, decentralization, liberty. Instead of asking questions that wise men answered thousands of years ago, we can choose to stand on the wisdom of the ages and from those heights look out to see and to build what's next. What I don't believe in are how-to guides or telling you what to think. Instead, I teach you how to think and arm you with knowledge and tools. I empower you as a free and sovereign individual so that you can decide what's right for you, your family, and your community. So, if you've ever wanted to better understand the major threads underlying our world, money, civics and politics, bureaucratic machine and censorship,

Starting point is 02:04:56 words and their emergence, war, globalism, join me. Grab a copy of Why the World Doesn't Make Sense and start today. Wherever you are in life, whatever you have or don't have, you can do this. We can do this. Alright, and joining us now is Chris Manitas and I think I mispronounced her name. I hope I got it right this time. And we wanted to talk to her about her book, Why the World Doesn't Make Sense. I've got some ideas about that, but I'd like to hear what she has to say about it. Thank you for joining us, Chris. It's a pleasure to be here. Thank you. Well, tell them that this is a new book that you're in. You've written several different

Starting point is 02:05:40 books and you've got a YouTube channel. You've got some very interesting thoughts on the YouTube channel as well. But tell us a little bit about that. Tell us a bit about the book. Why the world doesn't make sense? Why do you think it's crazy? Well, I have a feeling you're gonna agree with me on this one. I think it's because it's no longer built on truth. We have replaced, you know, natural law with legal fictions and virtue with identity, reason with control, and we've stopped acknowledging that liberty comes from personal sovereignty and that it has to be about more

Starting point is 02:06:08 than just rights and this basic premise that if we don't want the government to step in, then we the people have to step up. And we have to remember that freedom often is the freedom to do what we should. And I think it's also really critical that we recall that, you know, we should never ascribe more to government than it requires.

Starting point is 02:06:27 It's not meant to be a recipe for our lives. It's, you know, merely our secular governance. And when this basic civic knowledge fades, we don't just get bad policy, but we can lose the ability to even talk about these foundational truths without triggering panic or polarization. So the book is ultimately about pulling back the curtain, if you will, and showing not just how we got here, but why. Why would we as a free people allow this to happen in the world? And as we sit on the precipice right now, I think you would probably agree of this collapsing

Starting point is 02:07:01 post-World War II global order. How can we reclaim liberty by returning once again to truth and to moral order? And I think it's really important because truth ultimately brings us to a fuller understanding of the individual. That's true. Yeah, I've said in the past when I was growing up, I would say, well, don't make a federal case out of it.

Starting point is 02:07:21 You know, now we want to make a federal case out of everything. Everything needs to be solved by government. Every problem needs to be solved by government and needs to be solved in Washington. And that's now true of conservatives as it has been true of liberals for quite some time. Everybody's looking for a savior in Washington, aren't they? We, if you notice in society, we even pose the question the wrong way. Oftentimes the first thing people say is, well, what should the government do? And the answer is almost always nothing.

Starting point is 02:07:48 Get the heck out of the way. And I think we really need to start once again, asking ourselves, what should we do? What can we be doing? Because ultimately it starts with us. And I think a society that understands that and lives that truth of you know taking responsibility and understanding that you know our

Starting point is 02:08:11 Being as individuals really transcends our rights and our obligations and even opportunities Has to reach a state of communion and voluntary self-sacrifice And I think that's it's key not just to fulfillment of who we are as people, but it's key to making the whole system work. So you can't have liberty without virtue. And so I think this kind of timeless call to fix ourselves and our own hearts first is actually at the heart of really helping to fix our society to move forward as well. And that's really what the founders were talking about when they mentioned happiness, isn't

Starting point is 02:08:45 it? You know, it wasn't hedonism necessarily, it was the freedom to pursue virtue, wasn't it? Oh, absolutely. It was integrity and there is a property element in there, I think, in pursuit of happiness, since the initial wording was property. But a lot of it is integrity. It's this understanding of virtue and that happiness is not this ability to

Starting point is 02:09:05 always do whatever we want. In fact that's the exact opposite, right? I think that's actually slavery, not freedom, when you're a slave to your passions. And so I think really kind of understanding these timeless truths that have been around forever that society seems to have forgotten and we've become deeply uncomfortable talking about the entire concept of virtue somehow. It's almost as if we can sense how far we've drifted and so we're afraid to have the discussion. It's only allowed to virtue signal on social media. We can't be didactic about the virtue.

Starting point is 02:09:42 We can't define virtue. Of course, the inversion is always okay. That's right. So, you know, so what does, you know, when you talk about this, what does it look like at a local level, you know, for us to, or a personal level, you know, when we look at this and we try to move society back in a direction that is more focused on the individual, more focused on virtue, and not so much a centralized solution. What does that look like? Well, I think it's a good question. I think it's a good question. I think it's a good question.

Starting point is 02:09:51 I think it's a good question. I think it's a good question. I think it's a good question. I think it's a good question. I think it's a good question. I think it's a good question. I think it's a good question. I think it's a good question.

Starting point is 02:09:59 I think it's a good question. I think it's a good question. I think it's a good question. I think it's a good question. I think it's a good question. I think it's a good question. I think it's a good question. I think it's a good question. I think it's a good question. I think it's a good question. back in a direction that is more focused on the individual, more focused on virtue, and not so much a centralized solution. What does that look like on an individual basis? I think it starts with a couple of things. I think, obviously, it starts with us and it starts with our families.

Starting point is 02:10:20 What is our connection to our creator? What is our connection to our family and then building up from there into our local communities? And I think a huge part of it for folks is education. I think not being afraid to go and Connect with the entire Western Canon, you know to travel as you know It's often called that dusty path between Athens and Jerusalem and know from once you came and be able to connect with the long Arc of history I think is incredibly important to people. So I think reading certainly helps I think being afraid or not being afraid to to question You know somehow even our our scientific method has gone away and it's become you know whatever is it's settled science or condone by, um,

Starting point is 02:11:08 by whoever's paying for the study. And our greatest discoveries in the world have always come from questioning. And so I think it's this idea that within ourselves, challenging ourselves and within our families and our small, um, you know, local communities, and within our families and our small, you know, local communities, how can we once again instill this basic idea of first principles thinking and really being able to drill every issue down and build up from there? And it gets you to an interesting place because instead of falling politically into line with a lot of these ideologues or what the party's doing.

Starting point is 02:11:45 I caught the end of your last segment before joining. What I heard was this idea that once you have a principle, that principle is a principle. You don't get to be, I'm going to apply it over here, but not really on Tuesdays and not to that group because it's not politically convenient. And I think we've lost that idea as a society and we all have to decide, you know, what are our principles and where are they grounding us? So perhaps, you know, for me and my personal life, that principle would be my faith and my secular life, that principle is liberty. And I think what happens is a lot of us have chosen economic gains or dominance or as I like to call it empire as that principle. And so you

Starting point is 02:12:33 tend to manipulate everything else around it. But when you come from in that secular sense around liberty is the underlying guiding principle that I am going to put everything within the context of self sovereignty. All of a sudden you look at the world in a very different way. You understand everything differently from whether it's money to globalism to geopolitics to domestic politics, words and how they're used against us, you know, war. And so I think it's really important that people challenge themselves and figure out What are these principles and what are the lenses that you're going to do this and do you have this ability to reason and break things down? And then build up again from there and it gives you the strength then to be able to approach any

Starting point is 02:13:17 worldview issue any global issue that you come across with a foundation and Obviously then being a having a willingness to listen to other ideas because we don't know everything and but now we have a grounding to filter those ideas so we can properly say which ones we want to allow to strengthen our resolve which ones can maybe broaden our understanding or add a little bit of depth or nuance and you know I like to always say that we get a lot of that from reading, but the truth is we can get a lot of it from anywhere in society if we have the tools to be able to do it.

Starting point is 02:13:53 I agree. Yeah. I remember Rod Dreher's book, Live Not My Lies, which is based on Solzy Knitzen's, you take the title from Solzy Knitzen's essay, but he was talking in it. He said that he had a lot of friends who had family that had lived under totalitarian governments, whether it was in Russia or Germany or whatever. And they were very concerned because – and they started talking to their children who were his age and said, �You know, I'm starting to see the same thing starting to happen here. And he said, then he started seeing it himself. You know, people who would be talking in a cafeteria or something at a university, they

Starting point is 02:14:33 would start to guard their speech because and kind of sideways glance to see, is anybody listening to me? That type of thing. There's a fear there. There's a fear there that you're going to stick out, you know, and you're going to be hammered down. The old saying that the nail that sticks up is going to get hammered down. And so everybody is afraid of that and they're ashamed of their convictions. And part of it, I think, as you're pointing out, they don't really have firm convictions. They haven't really thought about, you know, the meaning of life and where they stand on this stuff and why they stand on something. And so if you don't have firm convictions, it, I mean, you're just going to be pushed around

Starting point is 02:15:08 with everything. And I think that's really where we are for most people now. And I think that is a big part of why we have the kind of influence in these institutions, these public schools. I think that's been a big part of what they were trying to achieve, the fact that everybody just doesn't have any foundation, and they're afraid of the peer pressure and they're afraid of the pressure from above, aren't they? They're very afraid of it and I think you're right. It's because they haven't been taught how to

Starting point is 02:15:38 think and so what happens is instead we've trained entire generations on what to think. And it's an incredibly dangerous thing because it's not always the easiest skill to relearn later in life, to go back and actually have the strength of character to be able to break things down, because you realize that you end up questioning yourself a lot. It's something even that happened to me

Starting point is 02:16:01 in the writing of the book of really discovering when you're willing to look at at facts honestly throughout history What things are and and how they might change your mind and and really see what's happening across the board So I I think to me this is actually the broader discussion that we should really be having about education Is you know, we're kind of trapped I think in this parallel discussion right now in the country about who should get into higher education universities and then what we should be doing when they're there. And I think that's kind of missing the entire point. We're missing an entire underpinning of civics, of natural law, of understanding who we are as a people, and really starting with that foundation of

Starting point is 02:16:46 first principles and not just understanding American first principles from a civics perspective, but first principles thinking on a broader basis across the board. And so I think we're seeing that right now. It's permeating our sciences. We're less productive with the number of, you know, PhDs. I think it's dropped down to less than 1% in terms of productivity, even though the number of PhDs has gone through the roof. We're seeing it certainly in our thought and inquiry and our social sciences. Um, so it's it's across the board a problem that to me, this is the discussion that we should be having. And it's not something that government can fix. It's only something that we can fix ourselves by having only something that we can fix ourselves by having the strength of character and the willingness to take it on voluntarily.

Starting point is 02:17:30 Yes, I agree. I agree. And you know, I should have started with your credentials at the beginning because you have been able to build, you're an entrepreneur who has built a $200 million plus real estate portfolio by applying sound money principles. So you have successfully been able to put these principles into play. And you've also gotten involved as an early Bitcoiner and other things like that. But you've taken personal sovereignty over your own life. And I think that's one of the key things that is there. And you've been very successful at that.

Starting point is 02:18:04 And that's one of the reasons why you're writing books and why you have your YouTube channel and other things. By the way, I didn't mention, what is the YouTube channel where people can find you? It's Christine Menitis YT. Okay, YT. Okay. And your website is? My website is christinemenitis.com. Good, good. Okay, I wanted to get that out. And then from there you can link out to all the social and YouTube. Okay, and she spells

Starting point is 02:18:31 her last name M-E-N-E-D-I-S. That's Menedis. And that is the way you spell it. So that's excellent. Yeah, and so you know, you have a lot to say about financial things because again that is a key thing if we're going to have liberty and if say about financial things because again, that is a key thing if we're going to have liberty and if we're gonna have independence, we need to be able to take care of ourselves. And you have done that and been very, very successful at that as well.

Starting point is 02:18:56 So when you, on your website, on your channel, and I guess it's also in this recent book, Why the World Doesn't Make Sense, and that is S-E-N-S-E, it's not C-E-N-T-S, we're not gonna have cents anymore, we just got rid of the penny, Trump did that for us. So we're not gonna have any more cents as well, the federal government is not gonna make any cents,

Starting point is 02:19:19 but never did to me. So, but when you talk about that, talk a little bit about the financial aspect of it, about how we make sense of this world. Yeah. Absolutely. Well, money is a weapon, and I think it needs to be understood that way because in fact it's probably the principal weapon throughout history that's been used to create poverty and dependency rather than eradicate them. So without an adequate understanding of financial principles, you can't really have

Starting point is 02:19:50 sovereignty and a lot of societal evils are allowed to continue to occur because a lot of naive people fail to grasp this role of money as a weapon and it's worth saying that as with any weapon I always point out you can be on either side of it. And so if you don't understand what money is, it can be used either side of it and so it can be defensive or it can be it can be used to defend or defensive yeah yeah and so I think it's really important these things are tools at the end of the day you know I've never been someone who is a maxi with any particular point of view to me these things are tools and you have to understand them and bring them back to what are your principles that you want to use these tools in service

Starting point is 02:20:27 of. But on a bigger basis, if you don't really understand how money works, then you can't understand the broader world around you. And it may sound kind of dramatic, but currency, payment systems, all of this is the hidden engine behind everything, right? From the price of eggs to the rise and fall of empires. And historically, as I'm sure your audience is well aware, we've managed this in many different ways. And over time, we've moved from commodity money into fiat or government money and all of its issues.

Starting point is 02:21:00 And I realize your audience is probably very well versed on this, so I won't get into that. But what I think your audience is probably very well versed on this, so I won't get into that. But what I think is interesting is that as we start to now layer in, and I talk a lot about this in the book, modern payment systems, digital banking, credit cards, digital currencies, CBDCs, suddenly it's not just about what money is, but how it moves, who gets to transact, what can be tracked, frozen, taxed, is it private, is it programmable, and very quickly you realize we're not talking about money anymore, we're talking about freedom. Yeah. And so all of this I think matters right now with an extreme urgency and it's one of the reasons

Starting point is 02:21:38 that I really wanted to arm people with this information is because the time to understand it is now. I can tell you for a fact having seen it that the system is built, we just haven't turned the key yet. That's right. To turn on a lot of this. And so one day very soon, everyone's going to wake up and whatever is in their bank account is going to have converted.

Starting point is 02:21:58 And at that point, it's too late. We don't get to opt in the systems after they're built. So I think there's good, there's bad, but we really, I think knowledge of that is probably one of the most important things that we can help our fellow citizens with right now. I agree. And you know, they don't want us to own anything. They want to have universal basic income. We've had Democrats and Republicans have all talked about this in one form or the other. You know, we're not going to have jobs. I mean, we just had, I talked about it yesterday briefly, some guy with an artificial intelligence company says, I'm going to replace all jobs everywhere, you know, everything.

Starting point is 02:22:31 And it's going to be great. You know, nobody will have a job but him, I guess. And I don't know who's going to buy his product. They'll be happy. Yeah, exactly. I don't know who's going to buy what he makes. But it's crazy. They don't think about that.

Starting point is 02:22:43 And yet, at the same time, you know, we had when Bloomberg was running, he was talking about how, well, you know, we had the farmers and they're stupid and we had the people working in the factories and they're stupid and the smart ones of us like me, we just have to figure out how we're going to control these people so they don't try to kill us. And it's going to be universal basic income. And we saw Musk was heavily into that as well. How do we defend ourselves against this system that you point out is already built and they just got to flip the switch, put this thing out there? What is it that people need to do in order to protect themselves against this system? I think number one is awareness, to understand how it works and the implications of the various

Starting point is 02:23:23 aspects of the system. So that would be an understanding of digital money, which a lot of people I've found tend to just shy away from because they say, I don't like it. I don't want it. And it says, well, that's great, but it's here. So let's understand it. So I think an understanding of what digital money is. And I think understanding things, you know, timeless commodity money is really key. So gold, Bitcoin. To me, they both serve their purpose. I'm a huge fan of both.

Starting point is 02:23:53 Have been a big believer in both for a long time. My dad was an old gold guy, so I'm well versed in all that growing up. And obviously having its moment now as the world is going crazy. And I think understanding Bitcoin to me as a digital aspect of that. And so if you think about, you know, gold and all of its properties in terms of privacy, but also as a bearer asset, I think bearer assets are incredibly important for people to understand,

Starting point is 02:24:22 where you don't need that trusted third party to transact through them. And so to me, Bitcoin's acting as a bearer asset within the digital realm in the age of digital money is incredibly important for people to understand and to be able to take advantage of that. You know, God forbid you ever needed to move or to travel. It's a lot easier to travel with something like Bitcoin. It's just words in your head. So you can cross borders. And so to me, that's one of the most powerful aspects of understanding these things. So again, they're tools. So you have to look

Starting point is 02:24:55 at your life and understand where, what is it that you're trying to do? Are you trying to grow wealth? Are you trying to preserve wealth? Are you trying to just have a little bit to opt out of the system? Or, you know, are this is obviously in parallel with a lot of other non-financial aspects of your life as you're planning. So, and then I think also an understanding of what's happening in the world, bigger picture is really important as people look at their finances, because I think a lot of people, especially on the right, looked at what President Trump was doing, going in with tariffs and said, this is great. He's opening the door. We can put the government back in a box of having

Starting point is 02:25:35 to live within its means again. Of course, Congress hasn't stepped up to go down that path of actually making that the primary source of income. And instead you get a lot of Republicans today who are saying, well, no, we're going to keep spending. These spending bills are absolutely insane going through Congress. And so when you look at this and you understand that America's broke, we're facing a debt spiral. And this whole thing about taking the markets down a notch

Starting point is 02:26:04 really only has to do with one thing. It has to do with the tenure because we can't afford to finance our debt and we can't afford to refinance all the debt that the Biden administration there have put in short-term treasuries. That's also gonna come due at the same time as we need to put out roughly another three trillion.

Starting point is 02:26:21 And so we have no idea where this is going to come from. And if it, if the 10 year creeps north of five and a half percent, we hit a debt spiral. We're done. America's it's over. So if you hold gold, great, it's going to go through the roof with your Bitcoin. But if you're, you know, God forbid in Fiat or you needing to just buy food and do things for your family, these are very serious issues. And so we have, I think, an opportunity

Starting point is 02:26:46 right now that we have to be very realistic about this and understand that the problem may be at a point where, like so many other things, the government can't fix it anymore. And so it may be that point where I think a lot of people need to start to say, how can I take a little bit every month and start to protect myself, get off zero in some of these ways of getting out of the government system? And not everybody can do everything, but everybody can get off zero. And you can start to do something and you can create a community and be aware, because what we're seeing happen in the world is extreme chaos is being created because instead of using tariffs to go down a path

Starting point is 02:27:25 towards where the country started and to put us back towards a path of non-extractive income tax, they've been weaponized. And so what's happening? The world is reacting to this because instead of tearing down the post-World War II global order and then instead restoring a republic, we seem to be wanting to rebuild it now with all the old Lego pieces.

Starting point is 02:27:49 And it's not only confusing as hell to watch, but it's terrifying if you're in the markets. And I can tell you the markets you add this in now with algorithmic bot trading and it's a wild time in the markets right now. Oh yeah. Nobody knows what's going to happen. Your stocks better be tight. You have no idea what's coming. Oh yeah, everybody is frozen.

Starting point is 02:28:10 They don't know what's going to happen, you know, and it's that uncertainty that is so fatal with it. And you know, regardless of what's happening, regardless of, you know, we can all talk about tariffs or income taxes or whatever, however we raise taxes, but you need to have that stability so that people can make plans. Nobody can make plans. Nobody knows what's going on with it. or income taxes or whatever. However we raise taxes, but you need to have that stability so that people can make plans, nobody can make plans, nobody knows what's going on with it. And we're sitting here, as you're pointing out,

Starting point is 02:28:30 we've got this exploding debt, we've got what's looking like now, stagflation, now that's pouring gasoline on the fire, the stagflation with this uncertainty and everything. And I'm old enough to remember when inflation got out of control and you had all the king's horses and all the king's men couldn't put it back together again. They didn't know how to do any of that, right? And so they all wanted to pretend that they

Starting point is 02:28:54 knew exactly what to do and nobody could stop it. You know, it wasn't, we could get the whip inflation now buttons and none of that worked, you know? And we couldn't just say no to inflation. And of course the Congress? And we couldn't just say no to inflation. And of course, the Congress and the federal government can't say no to spending or to creating money. And so, we've got this economic tidal wave that is kind of looming over everybody's head. And as you point out, you've got to do something. Jack Lawson, who does Civil Defense Manual, he says, well, just start by getting some

Starting point is 02:29:27 canned food and start to put it under your bed, so that you've got something that you're starting to just start small. You don't have to do it all at once. You just start a little bit at a time. And I think that's what you're saying as well about the financial stuff. I think that's it. I think so many people feel like it's too much and I can't do it but you don't realize you can you can start small and that small compounds and honestly the way these assets are moving as

Starting point is 02:29:57 The currency continues to be debased more and more that little bit can actually be a lot And I think it's a principle in general in life just to start, you know, do something make a decision life. Just start. Do something. Make a decision. Start. You feel better moving forward and you're productive and it's also along the way because you're starting. Now you're in that world. Now you're getting educated. Now you're paying attention to these things because we could very well be entering a time of continued chaos. There's no guarantees that any of this is going to get turned around. I think there is a guarantee that they're going to completely change the financial system. I mean, they've even said it as much. You know, I mean, we had Besant say that, yeah, we're talking to the stakeholders, to

Starting point is 02:30:34 the World Bank and the International Monetary Forum. Yeah. And so it's like, oh, great, we're going to do another Bretton Words, he says. And so it's like, okay, so it's going to be the same but different. The Marlongo Doctrine. Yeah, there you go. That's right. So, you know, when you look at this, and part of it, I've talked to people in the past about

Starting point is 02:30:55 the hijacking of Bitcoin, because Bitcoin is really, Roger Ver, that's his book, said, you know, it was really set up as a transactional medium, and now it's become this big store of value. And I've also talked to Aaron Day who is very much trying to have gold, silver, as well as some kind of a digital currency, but he's concerned about privacy issues and things like that. And he's focusing on it and it's really changing very, very rapidly. It's hard to keep up with it. And so it's like a full-time job for him. So I have him on from time to time to talk about that.

Starting point is 02:31:30 But that's the other issue about it. I guess that's one of the things that concerns me about Bitcoin, even though it is now there and the institutions are accepting it, it's the lack of privacy. And that's one of the things that Aaron Day is looking at. You know, how do I get digital currency that is also going to be private? So I'm sure as he tells you, when he comes on, one of the key things about Bitcoin, because I agree that it has been hijacked and it is supposed to be both. It's not supposed to be one or the other.

Starting point is 02:32:03 That's just human beings having the absurd fights that we like to as different groups want to take control But it's supposed to ideally be both Because these are different aspects of what money is money is not just a unit of account It's a store of value and a method of transacting and it has to be both In order to truly be hard sovereign money, and I think, look, I think you're right to be concerned with it, especially as the analytics on chain get better and better across the board. And it is certainly something where gold is naturally superior. But we do have the Lightning Network.

Starting point is 02:32:40 And the entire point of the Lightning Network, other than the faster, cheaper transactions is privacy. And so only your initial and your closing, um, transactions are ever recorded on chain. So the thousands that you have in between maintain privacy now. So you're talking about the, the, on the on ramps and the off ramps, let's say, you know, getting into that system and getting out. Or when you open and close the portal on the Lightning Network to move from the Bitcoin onto the layer two. Now, to be fair, it is very much still what I would call a DIY system.

Starting point is 02:33:17 So if you treat Lightning like a bank and you go and you use, you know, one of these guys who've set up the wallet system for you, and now you're just back in trust land and you're custodying with somebody else and you've lost the entire purpose of the Lightning Network. But if you do actually take advantage of what Lightning naturally can offer, the payments are happening off-chain in private channels, and they're bouncing through several channels, in fact, who are not aware of where that's coming from. And so I think lightning is really the answer. And so one of my strong hopes is that as this continues down this path of digital money, that we get a lot more of the incredible talent that right now has been drawn into the crypto

Starting point is 02:34:03 space because of, you know, the promise and the returns and the power that they actually find their way back over to the freedom space and put their minds to work on the Lightning Network. Because I think that does have the opportunity for privacy within the digital age. Well, that's interesting. Talk to us a little bit about Stablecoin, because this is something that's being pushed a lot. Of course, that's where Howard Ludnick, is it Ludnick or Ludnick?

Starting point is 02:34:25 I can't remember. Anyway, that's where he's coming from, kind of that world. And you know, as he's been focusing on treasury bonds, you know, part of the pushback when Trump did the big tariffs, people, different countries started pushing back and saying, well, we're not going to buy the bonds anymore. And so this would be someplace where they could offload the bonds. And I kind of look at that and think, are they going to use the bonds anymore. And so this would be someplace where they could offload the bonds and I kind of look at that and think, are they going to use the state? You think they're setting the stuff to use stablecoin as the kind of the place where they can stuff their bonds if they can't get other countries to buy these bonds? And is that something

Starting point is 02:34:59 that they're going to try to replace the dollar with as some kind of a stablecoin? What do you think? Yeah, so a stable coin is just to kind of step back and define it, right? It's any type of digital currency that's backed by a reserve asset. And that can be, it can be treasuries, it can be physical cash, it can be gold, it can be Bitcoin, it can be anything. But some type of a reserve asset there. And hopefully we're talking about not algorithmic, which are backed by math, but the traditional kind that governments are accepting. Hopefully the PEG remains. But that's the idea is that it's one to one, it's not going to fluctuate because it is

Starting point is 02:35:37 backed. Now, Letnik, as you mentioned, is very tied with Cantor Cachero to Tether. They were their auditor for many years and now they're actually partnering together to pull something. Run very much of a micro strategy like play with Tether's balance sheet. And stable coins, this is really how they were sold

Starting point is 02:36:00 to the federal government is that they are the biggest opportunity in a world where less and less people want our dollar. Stablecoins not only expand dollar dominance, they allow people in you know Argentina, Hong Kong, India, anywhere in the world to access the US banking system with a smartphone and escape their own currencies which currently are far worse off than ours are. So they can get around the politicians of the central banks in those countries that don't want to deal with it.

Starting point is 02:36:32 Correct. They can just trade on their phones. So you can go straight to the… Right. Without the daily spikes in inflation that make it so difficult to plan out your life for basics like food and shelter and things of that nature that are recurring costs that you have. And so not only do stables help to expand dollar dominance because around the world

Starting point is 02:36:51 there's a huge market for them for that reason, but it's also the case that as governments have wanted to legitimize these stablecoin companies, they're all turning to U.S. Treasury. So Tether is one of the largest holders. It's a, Tether is one of the major stable coins, one of the largest holders of US treasuries in the world. And the idea is that this could be, to your point, an increasing appetite for this as we grow the stable coin market. And so as other countries, especially Asian countries, are beginning to dump our bonds

Starting point is 02:37:23 openly, then we need something to replace this with. So the idea is that it can flow into stable coins. Now stable coins, it should be pointed out, are private. So there is no, it's private in the sense that it's centralized. So whoever issues the stablecoin, they can flow through whatever policy they want. They can turn your right to transact on and off. Now to date it's never been done and that capability is there to the industry, but the capabilities there and this is what I think it's important for people to understand. Now I personally believe that we're actually going to get a stablecoin

Starting point is 02:38:02 as a CBDC and I think that's coming very soon in America. So we have... That's what I was curious about because I've been saying that as well. It checks all these boxes, it helps them with a dollar, yeah, and it helps them with a dollar, helps them with the bond, and it has all the functions of being able to control whether you have access to it or not and shut that down that they had with CBDC. So they can tell the public we're not gonna get a CBDC. They can bring this in the bank door. Yeah, that's right. We won't call it that. And then what happens is they also preserve the two-tier banking system so banks are happy because otherwise what's the role of banks in this world? And so now the banks are

Starting point is 02:38:38 happy. They get their CBDC that they can work with the central bank. Our central bank is happy. They have one to transact with other central banks who are all moving to CBDCs, and we're just told we have these wonderful things called stablecoins and you should all have them. Yeah, I agree. That's what I wanted to know if you saw it that way as well, because you're much more well versed in this than I am, and that is really where I see this all happening. You're spot on. Well versed in this than I am and that is really where I see this all happening. Well then, so again, I was trying to get into something that is outside of their system as much as we can and to, you know, even if it's just baby steps, take the baby steps and start to do some preparation to get outside of that system.

Starting point is 02:39:20 And so, you know, you would suggest that people start accumulating small amounts of gold and silver and of course you would do Bitcoin as well. Anything else that people can do to start to prepare and take baby steps? I think it goes down to education. That's the number one thing I would say that people can do to prepare. I think a lot of times it gets overlooked because it's not tangible, right? I didn't buy it, I can't see it in the cupboard. But I think oftentimes it's the number one thing

Starting point is 02:39:50 you can do to arm yourself for the future is to understand what's happening and to have the tools. It's one of the reasons I wanted to write the book. And also so that you can think through, you can process, you have this skill that we talked about earlier of first principles thinking, well, now let me apply it to money. Let me understand what's the government doing and why and what's the likely response going to be so that I can position myself and protect myself.

Starting point is 02:40:17 Maybe it means how much do I keep in my bank account? Maybe it means starting to do something else on the side or look at how I'm teaching my kids about what they might want to do in the future as they look to you know education and their future earnings within the context of a broader you know ever-changing global economy. Mm-hmm. Yeah I guess you know that that's a concern when we look at the debt that is there and we look at you know as everything is slowing down, there's also the issue that this is having on the supply chains.

Starting point is 02:40:51 And I understand the goals. I had a guy on a couple of days ago, we were talking about rare earth minerals, and he's got an American company that's trying to do that. But as he's pointed out, we're like five years away from being able to do anything of this. So what happens in the meantime, right? What happens when as part of this economic war, trade war, whatever, the Chinese cut off these vital magnets, which the most vital ones, they've got 98% of the market.

Starting point is 02:41:13 What happens when they shut that down? We don't have, even though we've got some resources where we can get to them, and even though we can learn how to do it, we've got to learn how to do it. We've got to set up the factories. We've got to start the mining and all the rest of the stuff. And that takes a long time to do it. And you got to learn how to do it. We've got to set up the factories. We've got to start the, the mining and all the rest of the stuff. And that takes a long time to do it. And you can go down with that, with everything, everything we have created. A, um, you know, over many decades, we have created a distributed supply

Starting point is 02:41:36 chain that is global in nature and everything is interwoven and you can't D, uh, decouple that instantly without just ripping everything apart. And I guess that's everybody's concern. Is everything going to be ripped apart? How do you see this playing out? Not well. Yeah. Nobody knows, of course.

Starting point is 02:41:56 Nobody knows even in the Trump administration. They don't know what he's going to do the next day in terms of the numbers and stuff. Well, to your point, it is interconnected at this point. We have built an interconnected world and there's going to be pain no matter what happens. It's a matter of who feels the pain and why and what's on the other side. So kind of going back to this broader collapse that I believe we're living through of the post-World War II global order, This has been coming for a while. Those on both the left and the right have been well aware that we've kind of reached

Starting point is 02:42:30 the end. We've played the game out as long as we could play it. And I believe that those on the side of globalism were kind of hoping that it would kind of imperceptibly collapse into everything that they had waiting for it, all of the institutions and the mechanisms and the NGOs and the trade agreements. And then Trump stepped in and kind of just threw a grenade into all of that. And so what we're witnessing instead is a disintegration. But like I said earlier, we're not actually going back to freedom.

Starting point is 02:43:05 And so what's awful to witness is if we were tearing this down and he came out and said, let me have an honest conversation with you, America, we've got a $36 trillion debt and rising. We've got a deficit of over two trillion a year. This is approximately 7% of our GDP. We've got unfunded liabilities of over 73 trillion, heck, we're paying over a trillion just in interest on our debt. It's not sustainable. We're going to fix the system and it's going to hurt, but here's what I'm doing and here's why and stick with me. He doesn't want to do that. He wants to win. And so the problem is you're hurting a lot of innocent people along the way who

Starting point is 02:43:45 are trapped in this system. And what makes it really painful not just to live through but to watch is that I don't think there's freedom and liberty on the other side of it. So it's just going to be trade deals and actions that because Congress isn't stepping in can all be undone via the next guy in office. And it's an incredibly dangerous way to run the government. And so you're disrupting the only functioning global order that we have in terms of stability

Starting point is 02:44:13 from an economic perspective, but you're not actually replacing it with anything. So will you get a lot of short-term wins? Sure. And I think the sad and the scary part, if we're being really honest about it Is that a lot of the people who most need those short-term wins are the people who would have otherwise opted for liberty and freedom? And but we've put them in such a terrible position that they're like just give me anything man

Starting point is 02:44:38 Just help right let me know that it's gonna get better and they're so desperate for that. And because they're not grounded in an inner strength, we end up with this movement of populism, which is a symptom, not a cure. And, you know, Liberty can only come from sovereignty from, from us. I agree. And so I think all of this plays through into the economy. And so what I see ahead, honestly, is a lot of chaos. I see for a time where we may get a period of short-term wins as trade deals are negotiated. But ultimately, I think we're going to see a lot of pain.

Starting point is 02:45:16 And I think it's really going to come down to two things for me. One is, how does China respond to this? They are in a world of pain internally themselves. But then we're also looking at stats like, you know, their imports to the US are estimated to go down by as much as 77%. And just this morning, they came out and said, we're not in trade talks. That's going to have a huge impact on all of us and trade flows around the world. And the second is we still have not settled this war between Russia and

Starting point is 02:45:50 Ukraine and, or really Russia and us, if we're being honest about it. And that inability to do so, I think is filtering through to a lot of his actions and policies because he hasn't been able to clear the board and reset that I think can have a huge impact on whether or not we're able to get a short-term reprieve, but long-term I'm afraid we're creating chaos. And you know, when you look at it, like I said before, we've spent decades intertwining these things. I mean, just look at Trump's USMCA, right? They wanted to distribute automobile manufacturing between the three countries.

Starting point is 02:46:44 Now, all of a sudden we want to stop it, you know? And so everybody had that set up. And we as individuals are intertwined in this system, right? And we can't help being intertwined in it. And so I guess the real concern is that rather than gradually starting to build something else, whatever we're talking about, it's just this abrupt ripping apart, you know, which is, and it's that, it's the uncertainty but also the rapidity of which things can change in a massive way that is going to be so destructive, not just for, you know, global economies and everything, for each and every one of us, the way we're all tied into this system. And that's why it is so imperative for us to get some handle on what we're

Starting point is 02:47:27 about, what we believe, what our principles are and to start making some preparations on the outside as much as we can because we're tied into the system, we can't escape the system but we can start to try to make some preparations on the outside and just hope that it doesn't come so quickly that it overwhelms us I guess. I think you're exactly right. And we are tied up in this. Every single person, look, this is the only system that any of us have ever actually lived in. So we may talk about and continue to be the remnant of society that

Starting point is 02:47:59 pushes for freedom and helps to keep things from going over the edge. But the reality is we've all lived within a system of control our entire lives. It has rules, it has referees, it's a game that's being played financially. And so what happens? You build your life within it, you build your company within it, you decide how to send your kids to school and what they should do within it. And all of it is being blown up right now. And so it's incredibly important that people do make preparations that people do understand. And I think first and foremost, to your point, that we know who we are as a people, that we return to these underlying

Starting point is 02:48:37 truths. Because at the end of the day, not only is it the only thing that can actually bring us back together as a society, but if we don't have that going through potentially whatever is coming in the world, we don't have anything to build what's on the other side and to have a say in building what's on the other side. And as I think we all know very well in history, if you don't have an idea of what you want that you can vocalize and that you can explain to others and help to build a consensus around somebody else is going to do it for you and that's what the world is going to look like.

Starting point is 02:49:09 That's a great way to put it, yeah. Yeah I know what my foundation is and I know as much as I identify with America, I identify with Christ and His Kingdom and so that's really where my foundation is and if we have that foundation, you know, we understand that we're just passing through this world. It's a temporary situation. And we understand that God is ultimately in control. We do what we can, and there are things that we have been given and responsibilities and

Starting point is 02:49:38 abilities that we have been given. And we do what we can with that to try to persuade people in the world. But you know, that's really where our rock is, and that's really where our foundation is. And if we don't have that, we've actually lost a lot more than just what's going to happen in this world. But I know that you agree with that as well. I do indeed.

Starting point is 02:49:58 Again, tell the website, let's see, Christine Menitis, and that's M-E-N-E-D-I-S, and you have a YouTube channel, you have a website, The World, Why the World Doesn't Make Sense is the book, and people can find that I guess on Amazon, or they can also get it at your site, right? They can get it, yeah, there's links from my site to Amazon, it's available anywhere books are sold, so whoever you want to support locally. But yeah, it is on Amazon, of course. Why the world doesn't make sense. And give us your website again. Is that ChristineMenedes.com? ChristineMenedes.com.

Starting point is 02:50:34 Good. And the last name again is spelled M-E-N-E-D-I-S. It's really been a pleasure talking to you. And it's time for us to be deliberate and to be serious and to understand and to take evaluation as we're getting into this massive generational change that we've got here. About every four generations we get this great fourth turning and we happen to be living in very interesting times I think that are coming up. They're getting very interesting very rapidly I think. So thank you so much. The old Chinese curse, may you live in interesting times. That's right, that's right. And we're going to see some other Chinese curses coming our

Starting point is 02:51:12 way I think. They've already started. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you. Thank you, appreciate it. Thank you. All right folks, we're going to take a quick break and we will be right back. I'm going to be a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a

Starting point is 02:51:56 little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a You're listening to the David Knight Show. While on kick, Knights of the Storm, thank you very much for gifting a subscription. I'm going to use the time that we've got left just to talk very quickly about the tariffs that are really kicking off this chaos in a big way. We have a Fox reporter. Now this is Mediaite,

Starting point is 02:52:35 which is a liberal anti-Trump site. And they're saying, Fox reporter says the Trump White House is giving Wall Street executives inside info on tariff negotiations. That's the way they present it. Now, the Fox reporter Charles Gasparino pushed back and said, that's not what I'm doing. And you don't understand financial reporting whatsoever. They said the markets have taken sharp hits amid uncertainty surrounding Trump's tariffs and trade deals. And so, of course, there's always insider trading potential that is there.

Starting point is 02:53:06 People inside the Trump White House are alerting Wall Street executives that they are nearing an agreement in principle on trade with India, according to my sources, who are senior Wall Street executives with ties to the White House, reported Gasparino. He said, no details on timing. And recall that we've been here before with Japan only to have the goalpost changed and the terms renegotiated. So again, if you don't have specifics and you don't have timing, is it really insider information? I don't really think so, but when they go through this and when you look a little bit more detail as to what Gasparino was saying, as he's defending

Starting point is 02:53:46 it, he says, this is not insider trading. He says, where is the progressive mainstream media outrage over the constant drumbeat of national security stuff and so forth? So again, they'll come back with it. Yeah, but what about what your guys did, you know, rather than explaining what it is. But in his actual article, which is also on the New York Post, they were reacting to his post on Twitter, how the Trump team is working overtime to close face-saving trade deals. That's his article at the New York Post.

Starting point is 02:54:19 And he said, so they're looking for a face-saving off-ramp. Now this is key. Hopefully there are some people, not going to be Peter Navarro, but there are some people in the Trump administration, it's just divided, some people in the Trump administration that understand that this is not working, we've got to back down off of this, how do we do it and look like we're winning? How do we back off of this and look like we're winning? How that manifests itself is unclear, but my sources are led to believe that actual

Starting point is 02:54:47 deals, in other words, signed agreements, even with the most friendly of trading partners caught up in the Trump maelstrom, are probably not going to happen anytime soon. Well, that's really bad news. Bad news for everything except for the price of gold. What is more likely is a series of public announcements coming from Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, possibly the President himself, indicating broad outlines of trade pacts that both sides can live with, he says. First, he says, out of the box appears to be India.

Starting point is 02:55:19 He said, �My post on India that reported on this progress immediately reversed stock market losses at the open and turned the Dow green for the rest of the day. Oh, okay, so wait a minute. First he's saying this is not insider trading. And then when they question him on social media, but then in his article he goes, yeah, but when I put this out on X that there was movement on India, he said that turned the stock market green for the rest of the day. So even though there wasn't any information about details or timing or the rest of the stuff, if you knew that if you're

Starting point is 02:56:01 Wall Street executives who plant this stuff with him, or if you're Trump who tells that to them, you still have the ability to move the marketplace. And see, here's the fundamental issue. This is not about whether – not even so much about whether or not it's insider trading, or whether or not the sources are genuine, or whether it's a manipulation. It's not even about that. All of this is flowing from the fact that you've got, because we have an executive branch that can just arbitrarily set this, even though there's no consensus within the executive branch itself.

Starting point is 02:56:35 They can by declaration, by dictate, by fiat, they can set the rates or they can move them or they can do the deal or not do the deal. And when you have that kind of concentration of power, that in and of itself is the problem. And so people can go back and forth over this partisan stuff and over the actual policies themselves, but the core issue here is the thing that's causing the uncertainty, which is the concentration of power. And everybody in Congress, the Republicans who have the majority now, they're afraid to push back against Trump on this. They're afraid of him. That's the crux of the issue.

Starting point is 02:57:16 The fact that all that has been taken so it can be done not by a deliberative process by Congress, but so that it can be done by one person and it can be on and off, on and off, on and off, and of course it will be done by the next president as well. They'll keep these so-called emergencies in place and they'll continue to do this. And so when you have that kind of concentration of power, part of it is that people are going to accuse you and with some justification, of rigging the markets, because you are rigging the markets.

Starting point is 02:57:48 The only question is, does anybody besides you know that you're going to rig the markets? Nobody at this point has talked about whether or not there's any insider trading going on with Eric and Don Jr., or Ivanka and Jared, or whatever, right? Or with Lutnik, or with Bessette or whatever. You know, when you look at this type of stuff, of course, that's one of the reasons that Elon Musk wants to talk about why congressmen get so wealthy and everything. You'll take a look at Pelosi and one of the obvious means of wealth, perhaps not the only one, but is the ability to do insider trading, having advanced knowledge as to whether or not there's going to be a deal or the details of that deal, which industries are going to

Starting point is 02:58:29 be affected, which ones are not going to be affected. This is an argument against the existence of the Federal Reserve, by the way, and it is also an argument against the existence of government by emergency executive order, which is the only way that Trump likes to govern. So, Charles Gasparino says, so what could disrupt the forward momentum? Trade partners are complaining to people on Wall Street that the US negotiating team is often obtuse as to what it is asking. They sometimes don't really know exactly what the White House wants, sources said.

Starting point is 02:59:05 Now this is not a left-wing reporter. This is a Fox News reporter who wants to be seen as friendly to Trump. And even he points out, as everybody can see with this vacillation of this uncertainty, that the people in the Trump White House don't even know what they want. Nobody knows because it's, I don't know, is it in the head of Donald Trump and he can't make up his mind? But the bottom line is that there is no strategy and there are no goals. And that's why this uncertainty, as he points out, the nebulousness of this, of the ask,

Starting point is 02:59:38 is what has stalled the Japanese negotiations last month. And it may do the same thing with everybody else but of course the Chinese they're not even trying to do anything about it. We need to prepare, need to get out of this system by the way you know go to davidknight.gold take you to Tony Yarderman try to get out of it as much as you can because it's a maelstrom that's gonna be coming from this temper tantrum of indecision that Trump is having. Have a good weekend.

Starting point is 03:00:17 The common man. They created common core to dumb down our children. They created Common Pass to track and control us. Their commons project to make sure the commoners own nothing and the communist future. They see the common man as simple, unsophisticated, ordinary. But each of us has worth and dignity created in the image of God. That is what we have in common. That is what they want to take away. Their most powerful weapons are isolation, deception, intimidation.

Starting point is 03:00:57 They desire to know everything about us while they hide everything from us. It's time to turn that around and expose what they want to hide. Please share the information and links you'll find at TheDavidNightShow.com. Thank you for listening. Thank you for sharing. If you can't support us financially, please keep us in your prayers. TheDavidNightShow.com

The David Knight Show - Fri Episode #1997: Rising Above the Chaos: Heroes, Truth, and Love Ignite Hope for a Free and Humane Future

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.