The David Knight Show - Fri Episode #2261: Levin Was Trembling at the Prospect of Peace

Episode Date: May 8, 2026

──────────────────────────────────────── [00:03:02] Mark Levin Is Trembling at the Prospect of Peace — Calls the 14-Po...int Iran Deal an Existential Catastrophe Levin was visibly shaking against the 14-point deal: Iran halts enrichment, US lifts sanctions, both open the Strait. Knight: this man's life is premised on never-ending war for Israel. ──────────────────────────────────────── [00:07:21] Joe Kent: Israel's Lobby Shifted US Policy From No Nukes to No Enrichment — Making Any Deal Impossible Kent: pro-Israel think tanks shifted the US red line from Iran can't have a nuclear weapon to Iran can't enrich at all — making any deal impossible and pushing toward regime change. ──────────────────────────────────────── [00:11:25] Jonathan Pollard Boasted on Camera That Israel Threatened Nuclear Weapons to Force the 1973 US Arms Airlift Pollard confirmed Israel threatened nuclear weapons against Egypt to force the US arms airlift during Yom Kippur War. Knight: friend of Mark Levin; with friends like this, who needs enemies. ──────────────────────────────────────── [00:14:30] Israel Spending $10 Million Against Massey and $730 Million on Propaganda — Because This Is Not in America's Interest Knight: Israel wouldn't need AIPAC, $10M to primary Massey, or $730M in propaganda if supporting Israel was in America's interest — they have to pay to manufacture our consent. ──────────────────────────────────────── [01:10:36] Ford and GM Are Patenting Systems That Will Disable Your Car Based on Facial Expression and Gait Analysis Ford has patented remote repossession; GM has patented a gait monitor that bricks the car if cameras detect unsteady walking. Peters: this is months away — don't buy a new car. ──────────────────────────────────────── [01:18:53] Trump's HUD Director Used AI to Audit Political Enemies' Records — the Architecture Is Now in Place for Everyone Bill Pulte used AI to find crimes in Lisa Cook's and Letitia James's real estate records. Peters: the NSA has been storing everything — they now have the capability to do this to anyone. ──────────────────────────────────────── [01:29:12] Eric Peters: Don't Buy a New Car — Buy Something Old, Learn to Fix It, Own Something That Can't Be Weaponized Peters advises older vehicles that lack facial recognition, eye-tracking, and killswitch technology. Knight: earlier Americans were much more versatile and self-sufficient — that's the model. ──────────────────────────────────────── [01:44:37] Eric Peters: DUI Checkpoints Inverted the Constitution — Now Everyone on a Road Is Subject to Interrogation Peters traces the 1980s checkpoint expansion that ended individualized suspicion. Texas went further with forced blood draws. Knight: the Bill of Rights exists to constrain government. ──────────────────────────────────────── [01:49:44] Trump Is Now Turning on Alex Jones — Peters: Jones Kept Flipping Back Under Audience Pressure but This Time Won't Jones privately despised Trump but reversed himself under pressure. Now Trump is attacking Jones — Peters thinks Jones won't flip back this time. ──────────────────────────────────────── [01:59:00] Eric Peters: New Cars Are Gray, Surveilled, and Homogenized — Color and Performance Cost Extra From monochrome paint to V8 elimination to data-mining dashboards, automakers strip out color, performance, and privacy — charging extra for anything resembling what cars used to be. ──────────────────────────────────────── Money should have intrinsic value AND transactional privacy: Go to https://davidknight.gold/ for great deals on physical gold/silver For 10% off Gerald Celente's prescient Trends Journal, go to https://trendsjournal.com/ and enter the code “KNIGHT” For high quality made in America products go to HomeSteadProducts.shop and use promo code “Knight” for 10% off your purchases Find out more about the show and where you can watch it at TheDavidKnightShow.com If you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-show Or you can send a donation throughMail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @DavidKnightShow@protonmail.comCash App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 And if you're in fact, if you look, come to think of it. Well, I got to look at this myself. What of you? Of deceit. Telling the truth is a revolutionary act. It's the David Knight Show. As the clock strikes 13, it's Friday the 8th of May. You're our Lord, 2006.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Well, we have something that really got under my skin when I saw this the other day. This is something just released by War Pete. He is making the case for a $1.5 trillion dollar Pentagon budget. He calls it an investment. He says he's moving the Pentagon from a bureaucracy to a business. Yeah, maybe that's a problem. It is total insanity. And as we have rumors of peace, you've got some people like Mark Levin who are absolutely freaking out.
Starting point is 00:02:13 But he's not the only one. So we're going to take a look at that. We're going to take a look how MAGA and the MAGA media, there still is a MAGA media, how they're reacting to all of this. And there is a lot of internecine warfare between the CIA and Trump and the Saudis. And a lot of it is a can of worms, folks. Not really sure what's going to happen with this. But we're also going to have Eric Peters joining us today.
Starting point is 00:02:37 I think you're going to enjoy this interview. He'll be talking, of course, about liberty and freedom. And you've got to have a car for that. You've got to have some private transportation. Can't cut loose without that juice. We'll be right back. Yeah, Mark Levin says that the reports of peace are really disastrous. You just can't imagine something like this happening.
Starting point is 00:03:09 So you look at people like Lindsay, people like Mark Levin, Ben Shapiro, all these people, these warmongers. Mark Levin swears that he's not a war monger. Listen to this. Of course, I'm called a warmonger, even though I view myself as a peacemonger. Yeah, right. The president's not being called a war monger. In other words, anybody who believes peace through strength and is not an isolationist, that is, doesn't believe in national suicide is apparently a warmonger.
Starting point is 00:03:36 That's right. War is peace. I went back and I looked. You know who else was called a warmonger? Theodore Roosevelt. Yeah, he had his chair of war. Wilson. World War I, World War II, Korean War, Vietnam War, Vietnam War, Vietnam War, Washington, George W. Bush, Iraq War, Syria, many others.
Starting point is 00:03:57 I think you just made our case, Levin. Our president today is called a war monger, not war mongers. Yeah, I think you are. I mean, everybody knows that FDR and Woodrow Wilson claimed when they ran for president, they weren't going to get us involved. in a war, they did exactly the same thing that Trump is doing. And Mark Levin is out there pushing and pushing and pushing. He wants to push us into a nuclear exchange. That's basically what he and Jonathan Pollard have been pushing this idea back and forth
Starting point is 00:04:33 with each other. And of course, it was Mark Levin's son-in-law who brought Jonathan Pollard, one of the worst traders to America ever, brought him to Mike Huckabee so that all of the Zionists could have a little powwow meeting there. But look at Levin. He is beside himself over this 14-point deal where Iran would halt its nuclear enrichment process. The U.S. would then lift sanctions on Iran,
Starting point is 00:04:59 and both countries would release their control over the strait. That sounds simple enough. He's freaking out about that. Can't let that happen. We've got to destroy this country and kill all the people in it. Listen to this. We're not doing regime change. Everybody says no regime change.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Okay. Then the regime survives in one form or another. The fundamental survive. And so the question is, how do we keep this enemy, this poison, this cancer, these Islamists records, the 7th century barbearance, how do we keep them in a box? How do we keep Israel in a box? We have to figure out. He's so worked up about this. He's trembling. because of the huge isolationist strain in the Democrat Party among the woke right. But again, MAGA, the Republicans are behind the president. But if we can't do it because of the political wins, if we can't do it because of other reasons, then how are we going to keep them in a box? It can't be just peace in our time.
Starting point is 00:05:58 We have a 10-point deal and they've agreed to this, this, this. Can't do that. I just think it's going to be very, very complicated, very, difficult. And I would say this to the President of the United States. I personally know that you will do the right thing that you're going to try and make sure... He's just trembling. He can't stand this. And forever.
Starting point is 00:06:16 And so I have complete faith in this man because he's brought us to this point. Where he's blown out their nuclear system, where he's taking out or trying to take out all the enrichment. Where he is not taking them at their word. We infused our military in one of the most brilliant, spectacular military campaigns an American history. So much for this. I can't take any more of this guy. But isn't it pathetic, really, when you look at this? This is a guy. Imagine if your entire life was to promulgate war and to keep it going. We got to kill everybody. Can you imagine how that kind of life must grate on somebody? Maybe that's why he's trembling at the thought of peace. It's absolutely
Starting point is 00:06:58 insane. Well, Joe Kent pointed out exactly what this guy is doing and how he is being used as an influencer. In the letter about this ecosystem of information that's laundered through a lot of prominent neoconservative types that are very sympathetic to the Israeli cause and then also Israeli government officials who give us things in semi-official channels. What they did was they created basically a shifting red line or a new red line. So if the president's red line was Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon, we've actually got a lot of trade space in there for a deal to be made because of what the Iran is.
Starting point is 00:07:34 what I just described with the Iranian policy, essentially the Iranian saying, okay, well, we don't want a nuclear weapon. Well, that means we basically are at a point where we can start negotiating and we can come up with the deal. And the president is a fantastic dealmaker. So if your goal is to move us away from any kind of deal and your goal is to move us into a conflict, you have to shift that red line. And that's where a lot of this, I would say, what became a de facto U.S. policy of Iran can have no nuclear enrichment. it was laundered through a lot of the different talking heads, Mark Levin, Mark Dubowitz, you've got the foundation for the defense of democracies, you name it. Washington, D.C. has plenty of pro-Israeli lobbyists who will come and say those things, who will publish think pieces on it,
Starting point is 00:08:16 who will go on the media, who will run, you know, op-eds in the Wall Street Journal to talk about this, why they can't have any enrichment whatsoever. And then we have a high degree of engagement with Israeli government officials who will come in and say, well, they're enriching and they could enrich or they could enrich more. and that will get them closer to a nuclear weapon. So then enrichment basically became the new U.S. policy. And the only official I've heard. Yeah, well, the real enrichment that is happening is for the military industrial complex.
Starting point is 00:08:47 These people are making out like bandits because they are. There are bandits and pirates. And you know, you heard Mark Levin, he said, and there's all these Democrats who don't want this. And the woke right. What is the woke right? Am I woke because I don't cheer your wars of genocide? Maybe I'm awake to what you're about.
Starting point is 00:09:05 Maybe that's it, pal. You know, we called you and people like you, not just war mongers, but neocons. Why did that term come up? Well, because conservatives used to value what this country was based on, and that is peaceful relationships with other people, no entangling alliances of foreign governments. And that includes your precious Israel and your precious Bibi Netanyahu. We don't want entangling alliances, especially. of people like him who are thieves and murderers.
Starting point is 00:09:36 And so Mark Levin is not there. I got to believe this Axios report is false. If the Axios report is close to accurate, the Iranian regime will survive. The Iranian people will face even more extensive brutality. More extensive brutality? Go back and look at what they suffered under the Savak. The secret police that Yermasad and our CIA put in place and trained after they overthrew the government that was elected in Iran and put in a king and a despot, they turned it into a
Starting point is 00:10:08 police state. That's brutality as well. I mean, they've jumped out of the frying pan and into the fire. Nevertheless, it was what we did to them that has been the core of all the things that basically caused blowback into Ayatoll. It's one of the best examples of failed American foreign policy, although there's no shortage of that. Every time we get involved in one of these things, we fail. We don't seem to know anything about what we're doing. They always fail in these things. But, of course, he's not the only person that's out there.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Hughitt is very upset about this. And he's calling for Israel to sabotage any peace. We cannot have peace. Think about this. Look at what these so-called conservatives have become. It's war all the time, never ending, forever war, kill everybody for Israel. J.D. Vance told me on this show when he was a senator or running for vice president,
Starting point is 00:11:04 I can't remember, that nations have their own interests and they have to follow their own interests. We don't control Israel. Israel doesn't control us. Yeah, right. At this point, I think it's in Israel's interest to act against Iran in a way that blows up this deal. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:11:22 I think you're a traitor. Yeah, I tend to agree. Yeah, yeah. There's the same type of stuff that you see from Jonathan Pollard, boasting about the fact that Israel blackmailed the United States with nuclear attack. Said if you don't support us, if you don't give us weapons, we're going to use our secret nuclear weapons that we have never opened up to inspection. They have never complied with any international inspectors.
Starting point is 00:11:50 So we're going to use those against Egypt. Listen to Jonathan Pollard, the traitor, the friend, an ally of Mark Levin. Well, I believe that the O'Brien administration, as I called it, did threaten us. But I said, you're mistaken if you think there's never a choice. There was a choice. He said, well, what? Does it have our weapons cut off?
Starting point is 00:12:13 I said, no, let me bring you back to October 1973 during the Umpkipur War when Henry Kissinger instituted an arms embargo against us. He stopped the aerial resupply of our army at that point to extract diplomatic concessions from us. And what happened? What happened was an A4 Skyhawk was parked at Telnoff Air Base with some interesting weapons under its wings. And we told the Americans, take your eye in the sky, and take a good look at the airplane that's on that runway. And the next day, the airlifts started.
Starting point is 00:13:05 So the guy that I was talking... Which airlift? To Israel. The arms air. So in other words, we threatened their... We threatened to use unconventional weapons. I'll leave it at that. Nuclear weapons.
Starting point is 00:13:20 We know what you're talking about. Quit being cagey. This guy is so unbelievably despicable. Powell of Huckabee, Powell of Mark Levin, Jonathan Pollard, traitor. And of course, yeah, we blackmail the United States with nuclear weapons. We're going to use nuclear weapons against Egypt if you don't give us some more conventional weapons. These are our allies with friends like this who needs enemies, right?
Starting point is 00:13:47 And so I guess, you know, we have to, it's clearly not in our interest to have Israel as allies. And they know that as well as you know that. They wouldn't be spending the kind of money that they're spending. I mean, just look at this. To get rid of Thomas Massey, $10 million to his opponent, who doesn't have any support prior to this, but $10 million. Because it's not in our interest to support Israel. They wouldn't have APEC if this was in our interest. They have to propagandize us.
Starting point is 00:14:21 And, of course, it's going to spend $730 million to propagandize us. That's just the beginning of it and what they're doing against Thomas Massey. Because this is, everybody knows this is not in our interest. Everybody knows that they're buying our politicians and taking over our government. So an official from the Pakistani government, which has been mediating these negotiations, confirm the accuracy of the reported details to Reuters on Wednesday. Now, we have heard Trump all over the map. Don't get your hopes up about this.
Starting point is 00:14:51 As the people on Wall Street are even saying, Nacho, not a chance Hormuz opens. Not a chance of war ends either. But things are not looking good for Trump, not looking good politically, not looking good militarily, not looking good economically.
Starting point is 00:15:07 So he might be open to this type of thing. And he might be ready to swallow some crow. Although he'll be crowing about what a victory it is. Everybody's had enough of Trump. Even the Saudis.
Starting point is 00:15:23 And so the Saudis put an end to his little project in Hormuz to escort ships out of there. The Saudi Arabian government pressured Trump to end his Strait of Hormuz escort operations. He called it Project Freedom. They rebranded their war to play nice and, you know, pervaricate around the rules for even the War Powers Act. pretending that we don't know what they're doing. So we call this Operation Epic Freedom. And we're out of time on that. So what we're going to do is we're going to continue doing it, ignore the law, ignore the Constitution.
Starting point is 00:16:05 We'll rebrand it from Operation Epic Freedom to Project, Operation Epic Fury to Project Freedom. It'd be a totally different thing. You know, that one is over. Now we'll start the clock again. They're so incredibly dishonest. Trump announced the plan on Sunday afternoon. and it angered the leadership of Saudi Arabia reports NBC, citing unnamed sources. They said Saudi Arabia told the U.S. that it wouldn't allow the U.S. military to carry out operations for the project.
Starting point is 00:16:33 They wouldn't allow them to use the Prince Sultan airbase southeast of Riyadh, and they would not be allowed to fly through Saudi airspace. America's Gulf allies were told to the operation about 12 hours before it was announced. Originally, there were no objections. But then the Gulf Cooperation Council, which is an intergovernmental alliance between Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Kuwait, Amman, and Qatar, later became concerned because they said there's not any rules of engagement with this. You know, that's the problem with the Trump administration. That's exactly what the guy who was the highest-ranking French official that they've ever had in NATO. That's what he said to French TV. Remember, I played that clip for you.
Starting point is 00:17:19 And he said, here's a problem. You know, he wants us to come in and help him in her moves. But he doesn't know what his strategy is going to be. He doesn't know what he's going to do from one moment to the next. And it's vital that everybody know what that is. You can't just have the U.S. going in and doing their own thing and shooting at whatever they see over here. And we do the same thing. We're going to wind up shooting each other.
Starting point is 00:17:43 So it goes, first of all, you have to define what your objectives are. Secondly, you have to have some kind of a command structure and the rules of engagement have to be clear. And so without that, we're not even, you can't even talk about this. But he goes, but the reality is, is that the Trump administration doesn't really want our military help. They want somebody to endorse and applaud what they're doing politically. That's what they want. They don't need the military help. They don't want it.
Starting point is 00:18:14 they just want to have somebody who's patting them on the back politically. And of course, that would help to explain why Trump keeps coming out there and saying, we're really winning over here, but please help us, you know, and getting really angry when somebody doesn't help him. Anyway, they said the lack of rules of engagement would expose the country's energy infrastructure to attacks from Iran. And so that's when they said, no, we don't want you using the big air basis here, and we don't want you flying over our territory.
Starting point is 00:18:44 This stopped looking like a strategy from the perspective of these Gulf states. And it started looking like a desperate political vanity mixed with deadly, wishful thinking. Well, I think that could kind of sum up this entire little dirty war that we've got going on. It is desperate political vanity that is mixed with deadly wishful thinking. Don't worry, we're going to be able to end this war in victory before they can ever close the straight of our moves. Remember that? Deadly, wishful thinking and political vanity has been fueling it now for a couple of months. According to NBC, phone calls between Trump and the Saudi clown prince MBS failed to come to an agreement on the matter.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Wall Street Journal, however, reported late Thursday afternoon that Saudi Arabia and Kuwait have lifted restrictions on the base and the airspace, I should say, and the Trump administration is now looking to restart Project Freedom. Well, we should see. But it was an absolute failure anyway. They only got two ships through, but they escorted through. That's between 130 and 150 ships going through a day. They got two of them through, and that was a firefight.
Starting point is 00:20:05 So Trump says that the U.S. has won the Iran War, but the bombing will continue. if Iran doesn't submit two demands. So there you go. We're winning. Please help us. And oh, by the way, now that we beat you, we're still going to drop bombs on you, right? The bombing will continue until morale improves. That's right.
Starting point is 00:20:25 So the cost of the White House ballroom is being talked about. He had an interview with PBS. They talked to him about that, about gas prices, about the economy. Now, Americans are struggling. As a matter of fact, you had Sean. Duffy, who is the transportation secretary, you kind of ask yourself just how detached and clueless these people are. Listen to what he said about gas prices. We live in a very different world, and I just don't think we had other presidents who've been
Starting point is 00:20:55 willing to see the threat and address the threat of Iran. And so I think opens up. You're going to see prices come down immediately. You saw yesterday energy prices came down below $100 a barrel. I think we had 90s. We this morning. I don't quote me on that, but I was looking at it. It was like 92, 93 for Brent Crude. So we're in a good place. We see the price of Peru going down significantly recently. We're in good place.
Starting point is 00:21:19 When could we see that at the pump? Especially now we're getting into that summer blend, gasoline. 90% of Americans take road trips for their summer vacation. We want to encourage all Americans to take a road trip, whether you're going to go two hours or two days to see your country. Everyone's going to Philadelphia, by the way. This is where it all. Dig deep.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Great history here. Go to the sofa and find some change. But it's interesting the way gas stations work. When prices go up for barrel, you see that the next day, the price of the pump goes out. And as prices go down, it takes a little bit longer to ricochet through lower prices at the pump. That's the way they operate. But, again, we have a length time of probably a week to 10 days. We'll see a price for barrel go down to see prices reflected in the pump.
Starting point is 00:22:09 across the country. Are you in touch with the way? So after they've inflicted all this, it's kind of like Trump's saying, oh, we're going to open up the straight-of-hor moves. Pat me on the back. It's like, pal, you're the one who shut it down. Oh, we're going to see prices drop if we stop this stupid war. Oh, well, great.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Take credit for that, except you're the ones who drove it up. It's insane the way these people make. So he says, yeah, we're in a really good place. Take that summer trip. A really good place. Yeah, keep telling yourself that. It's just these people are so detached from the truth. Meanwhile, we have, this is a gateway pundit in their headline breaking. Deep State leaks CIA Iran War dossier to the Washington Post.
Starting point is 00:22:52 It's a deep state plot, they say. Well, the reality is, is that if you look at what the CIA dossier said, and of course, they may have their own rationale for telling us the truth, but I think what they said in this particular case, believe it or not, is a, a true. true, and I do believe that it is true. I think we can see that Trump is the one who's lying about this. Trump told reporters that the U.S. military has decimated Iran's missile capacities, and probably they only have about 18 percent left. So I guess that's worse than the 92 percent destruction that he typically talks about, right? You're facing an opponent right now in Iran that has refused to submit, said a reporter. You seem optimistic announcing that you may be close to a deal, but what's
Starting point is 00:23:37 different now? asked the reporter. Well, why do you say that? They refused to submit, said Trump. I wonder why somebody would say that. Could it be all the missiles that are coming from Iran? I don't know. Is that the conclusion that they're jumping to? It's like, there's this barrage of missiles heading towards our bases and towards Israel. I think they're refusing to submit. No, no, no, you're reading this all wrong. He says, you don't know that. You also don't know what's going on behind closed doors. Right? We've got a secret agreement that's going on. And the reporter said, well, they were firing on U.S. troops just a few days ago. I didn't straight a four moves even. He said, yeah, well, a few days ago is a long time ago. You know, in the world of war, a few days ago, no, they want to make a deal badly. And we'll see if
Starting point is 00:24:23 we get there. You know, we're winning. Please help us. And it always reminds me when he does this kind of stuff. It's like Jeb Bush when he was running for president. Remember he had that one. I think it was the nadir of his campaign that happened just before he bailed out. He makes some statement and he pauses for a second and nobody is reacting to it. And he says, please applaud. Please clap. Yeah, please clap. That's it.
Starting point is 00:24:52 So Trump is basically doing that. We're winning. Please help. And please clap as well. So what does the CIA's leaked memo say? Well, Iran, they say, will not feel the official. effect of any blockade that is happening for at least three to four months. They also, um, Trump, uh, boasted about destroying, uh, all of their missiles and their, uh, their
Starting point is 00:25:17 Navy and their ship. And of course, they didn't have a Navy. They didn't have an air force. Uh, but, uh, we destroyed it, right? But he says that we destroyed their missiles and they've only got about 18% left. Well, the CIA memo says that Ron still has 75% of their mobile launchers, 70% of their pre-war missile stockpile. And they said that they're able to, they're rebuilding their missiles as they're going along. So they haven't stopped their missile production either. And I would say that I don't know if those numbers are exactly true,
Starting point is 00:25:50 but since we see them continuing to fire missile barrages, I would say that it's far more likely that they've got 80% of their missiles rather than Trump saying that they got 20% of their missiles left. It just doesn't make any sense. There's no logic to what he's saying. Not only that, but they said all underground facilities have recovered and reopened from the initial attack. And they're even continuing to build new missiles, as I said. So this stuff about 18% of their missiles are left.
Starting point is 00:26:22 And the CIA says they've got about 70 to 75%. I think that is far more likely the scenario. And yet Trump insists, you know, we took out. Oh, their Navy. Yeah, they had an Air Force. Lots of planes. No, they didn't. Do you see any dog fights going on?
Starting point is 00:26:41 There weren't any dog fights. There weren't any plane-to-plane things that were happening. We didn't have any of their planes attacking bases. No, they used missiles. They used drones that type. They didn't have an Air Force. Anyway, said it, and now they don't have any anti-aircraft. And they don't have any radar left either.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Well, I think that the people who got hit the most with the radar, radar was the U.S. They took out a central component of a very hierarchical, structured, centralized radar system. I don't know if his radar, if it was some other kind of early warning thing, but I think it was radar that was used as part of their anti-ballistic missile system. So it basically had a very large network of these things. and they took out the central one. It was like a billion dollar antenna.
Starting point is 00:27:38 And without that, it was significantly hampered. Because you have to detect these launches at a very early stage. They detect them as they're being launched. They calculate what the trajectory is. The problem is that a lot of these more advanced Iranian missiles don't stay on that fixed trajectory. So it's hard to calculate what it's going to be. You've seen that. They talk about it being like a zigzag missile or something like that.
Starting point is 00:28:03 But it changes speed, it changes direction in the final minutes. And so it makes it very hard for these systems to take it down because they're assuming that it's going to have a uniform trajectory that they can calculate from the beginning. But those radar systems that they very tactically took out were the things that, I should say tactically, I guess it's a strategy, strategically took out. That was a part of their early warning system. Anyway, he says, and all their leaders are dead. well that's obviously not true they're able to operate and I guess the question is if all the
Starting point is 00:28:39 leaders are dead who is he talking to the Pakistanis running seances or something he's talking to the departed Ayatollah he's got the witch of indoor helping him I don't know anyway so the gateway pundit says just like clockwork the deep state CIA leaked an Iranian dossier to the Washington Post that refutes Trump's claims. Trump's claims don't have any credibility at all. And the CIA is probably pushing back against them because, you know, when you look at what Trump is doing, they want an American empire. I don't want to see an American empire, but they do.
Starting point is 00:29:17 And what Trump is doing is severely harming their American empire. Again, as I've said, when you look at him pulling troops out of Germany, I would love to see the troops come out of Germany, be used somewhere else. used here domestically used to defend our country. Instead, they're in Germany because from Germany, that gives them a strategic position to be able to get quickly into the Middle East and Asia and other places like that. It's not simply about protecting Germany. It's about having an advanced footprint that is far away from the United States.
Starting point is 00:29:50 And so when he pulls that back in order to punish Germany because he's angry that they didn't come help him and the tar baby that he got caught in. because he's angry and he wants to take revenge on them, then what he's doing is he's cutting off his nose to spite his face, the face of the American Empire. I imagine things like that are why the CIA is upset about it and why the CIA is putting out this information that opposes Trump. But we can see that Trump opposes Trump.
Starting point is 00:30:21 Trump usually debunks himself, even in the same speech, if not later in the same day. he'll tell you one thing and then something else will come up shortly after that. And then Marco Rubio has been busy. He announced additional sanctions on Cuba. You know, we look at this. Why is the American government fighting everybody in the world, whether you're talking about tariffs or sanctions or actually dropping bombs on people, shooting people in the water? We still have Southern Command, murdering people, committing war crimes in the Caribbean and parts of the Pacific.
Starting point is 00:30:56 even after this Venezuela thing is, what is a matter with these people? It's absolute insanity. We should stop calling them, I guess, the Trump regime. Just call them the wrecking crew. That's what they're doing. They're wrecking this country as well as other countries as well. But this is the thing that I said at the very beginning that really, really bothered me. This is Pete Hegsuff. A broken Pentagon bureaucracy was doing the same thing for decades. Warfighters needed more weapons, aircraft, and ships, the Department of Defense allowed contractors to double dip at your expense. They charge you, the taxpayer, to build their factories.
Starting point is 00:31:39 Oh, you mean like the Pfizer? And despite paying companies to make weapons faster, schedule delays were constant, and cost overruns were the norm. All while their CEOs got rich. But today, President Trump's war department is flipping this rigged system on its head. We're not tolerating delays in production or cost overruns anymore. We've pushed out the bureaucrats who've made these deals in the past and replaced them with the most talented negotiators in the private sector. Are you ready to pass an audit?
Starting point is 00:32:16 A group of businessmen so elite, they've been rightly dubbed, Deal Team Six. Oh, great. It's simple. We're putting the American taxpayer first. Deal Team Six. offering you a better deal. We now move at the speed of business, not bureaucracy. Now when a defense company expands its production
Starting point is 00:32:35 to sell more equipment to the U.S. military, they pay the bill. They pay for new factories, assembly lines, manufacturing plants. Wow. Not the taxpayer. Imagine that. In exchange, we're giving these companies steady long-term orders for exactly what our warriors need.
Starting point is 00:32:53 And defense companies are making things in higher volumes. much more quickly while keeping their prices flat. Should these companies fail to deliver, we will hold them accountable and bring in new companies who will. We'll kill them all. Speed, volume, and fiscal responsibility. It's common sense, and it's what the American taxpayer demands. If they fail to live up to this,
Starting point is 00:33:16 we're going to kill them like they had a speedboat in Venezuela. To business. Over the next month, we will release a series of videos that highlight how President Trump's historic, $1.5 trillion defense budget will make a generational investment in our arsenal of freedom. Oh, I can't wait. This investment will secure and protect the homeland and ensure America's military remains the most lethal fighting force on earth for generations to come. We're going to spend every dollar of that money responsibly because that's what you deserve.
Starting point is 00:33:48 That's what America needs. And that's what this president demands. Get a bucket. I'm going to throw up. This guy, yeah, it's such a deal, right? Such a deal. So where do I send my check for my household of $11,100 to pay for this one and a half trillion dollar boondoggle? Oh, it's supposedly this novel idea that I guess now the Pentagon had been doing for a long time because, you know, Operation Warfare was run like a military attack. It was a war on the American people, of course. And so, you know, we build the factories for them. We do the research. We do. start, we create the poison for them and then we hand it over to them and they have to do the production work, then we'll destroy it for them as well. And so evidently they've been doing that for a while with the defense contractors as well. We'll build your factory and then we'll
Starting point is 00:34:40 pay you exorbitant prices for all the stuff that you build as well. So we're not going to build the factories for them anymore. They're going to have to fold this in, figure out what the cost are going to be, fold it into the cost of doing business. You think they've turned into charities now? yet we've turned and we're not going to run it like a bureaucracy we're going to run it like a business well businesses have a bottom line and they have to pass audits and they have to make the books balance so that isn't going to happen the problem is they do run it like a business war is a business as smetley butler said it's a racket it's a business of organized crime and this guy runs it like a mafia openly like nobody else has ever done and that's one of the
Starting point is 00:35:23 other things from the very beginning of this thing. Well, we're going to save you a lot of money. We got a deal for you here. You know, it used to be the idea that the Democrats always said, somebody else is going to pay for this. And that's the central idea that he begins this stupid video with. He says, well, the businesses are going to pay the cost, right? Yeah, just like the businesses will pay for the tariffs. The foreign businesses will pay for the tariffs. The foreign countries will pay for the tariffs. This is something the Democrats would always do. Yeah, we're going to raise taxes on the rich. We're not going to raise them on you.
Starting point is 00:35:58 And we're going to do this. We're going to do that. We're going to raise regulations and fees. Don't worry. Somebody else will pay it. It might even be your neighbor. It might be somebody who's rich. But your neighbor's going to pay it.
Starting point is 00:36:08 But you're not going to pay it. And then you always wind up paying it. If they're going to increase the cost of doing business or what, these people are just going to add these factories in the bottom line. They're not going to pay for them out of the goodness of their heart. They can't if it's a business. So he doesn't even understand how a business runs with all this stuff. And then, of course, his product is what?
Starting point is 00:36:30 War. Maybe we should stop calling him war, Pete, and call him war pig, because he's feeding at the troth a little bit too much, I think. We're going to run it like a business with lots of bailouts from the government and politicians in our pockets. That's right. And so now when we look at what a deal these things are and how they can save all this money. You know, they haven't ever passed an audit. They typically don't get one. So, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:58 whether you're the Federal Reserve or the Pentagon, you don't have to account for any of this money. That's why they're run like bureaucracies. They're not run by like businesses. So he doesn't have any plans to actually do any audits. So he can kind of forget about all that business stuff. Meanwhile, when you look at the ballroom, remember the ballroom was going to be $200 million and it was going to be paid for by private donors. Most of it's going to be paid for by Trump, he said at the very beginning. And then, it went from 200 million, very quickly it went to 300 million, then it went to 400 million. Now we're at 1 billion, and guess what, it's not going to be private donors, it's going to be
Starting point is 00:37:33 the American taxpayer. And I'm paying for it. I'm paying for it. We're donating a $400 million ballroom. Myself and donors are giving them free of charge for nothing. We did this no charge to the taxpayer whatsoever. Rich people and people are putting up the money, zero taxpayer dollars. I think it'll cost $250 million, and it will be, I think the finest. It's about $300 million.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Approximately 400 million is. I think I'll do it for less. But it's 400. I should do it for less. I will do it for less. But just in case I say 400. Just a liar. Just a liar.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Yeah, I do this like an auction. I got 200 million. And now I got 300 million. I hear 400 million. Yes. I'll pay you a billion. And by the way, he'll pay it. Right. Yeah, so the bill gets sent to us. And so you've got some Republicans out there saying,
Starting point is 00:38:28 you know, this is a really bad optics for an election year. You've been talking about this ballroom, ballroom, ballroom, and now you're saying you've got to do it for security reasons. And so now you're going to offload it on the U.S. taxpayer. I think they're going to see through this. You know, you should have just told everybody you're going to increase the security expenses at the White House, except they're not even doing that, right? How is it that you've got to spend a billion at the ballroom, but the White House remains the same as it was? Well, if that's the case, then just stay in your White House if it's secure. If you don't need to spend a billion dollars to fix up the White House,
Starting point is 00:39:05 then don't build this building that is so vulnerable that you've got to spend a billion dollars on it. And when we talk about national security, we understand what this really is. This is a plan to save themselves and let the rest of us die. This is not about making America safe. It's not about making the world. world safe. It's about saving themselves, and it's about pushing their empire. And if they want to reduce the threats, it's just like what we're saying about Israel, rather than stopping all of these genocides that they're doing in Lebanon and Gaza and these other places and picking
Starting point is 00:39:39 fights with everybody in the world. Maybe if you just behave yourself, then maybe you wouldn't have to spend $730 million on propaganda to tell everybody how great you are. And I would say the same thing for the president. If you just would actually be nice, rather than calling your police state Gestapo nice, if you were, in fact, not trying to kill everybody, not trying to rob everybody, not being a pirate on the high seas, not committing extrajudicial murders on the high seas, and not trying to rob and kill us as Americans, maybe you wouldn't have the threats that you're dealing with right now. Do you ever think about that? You know, you and Israel need to learn a lesson here about this. Maybe when you sow these seeds, you're going
Starting point is 00:40:28 to reap the whirlwind. Maybe you should think about that. That's the real issue that is happening here. Well, so they go up by a factor of five, and then they shift it from private donors over to you and I. There's one more thing I wanted to talk about before we take a break, and then we're going to go to our Eric Peters interview. But this is something I just saw, and it actually happened back in 2023, but I just saw this. It was reported that this just happened. I saw this was tweeted out by an account called Died Suddenly. They said, Eric Clapton was just removed from the Rolling Stone top 10 list of greatest guitar players because he said he was injured by the COVID vaccine. When asked why, Rolling Stone said, well, you know, because of his COVID comments, clearly
Starting point is 00:41:16 rules out blah, blah, blah. And so when you look at this, that actually, it's kind of interesting how this operated. They had a list of the 100 best guitar players over, and it was put together by musicians who were actually guitar players. That was back in 2011. They don't do it every year. On that list, he was number two. He was right behind Jimmy Hendricks, who was number one, and then Eric Clapton.
Starting point is 00:41:42 They didn't do this on an annual basis. They waited until 2023. That's why I say this happened three years ago. it's not something that's new. Maybe these people just saw it. I didn't see it wouldn't happen. I don't pay any attention to Rolling Stone magazine. But when they did it again in 2023, they didn't use musicians.
Starting point is 00:42:01 They used writers and editors at the magazine Rolling Stone. And they bragged about how they were going to look at other things besides musicianship. They wanted to have some broader diversity and other things like that. And so he, on their list that was done by. writers rather than by musicians. He dropped from number two to 35 on that list. And they had a comment, and they made it about COVID. They said, these days, nobody really considers Clapton as God.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Because as COVID comments clearly rule out any chance of him being all-knowing. But that doesn't stop guitarists from worshipping his playing. So again, they make it about COVID. And it is a subjective standard, especially when it's non-musicians who are making this determination. But they were the ones who made it about COVID. And what happened with COVID? Don't you remember we talked about this back in the day when he took it and he said he had a reaction to it? And he said, I got angry with myself.
Starting point is 00:43:09 I thought I shouldn't have done it. And then he did it a second time because of pressure that he was getting, places that he couldn't play or things like that. and it got really, really bad. And so he got very vocal about at that point in time because he thought he had been crippled. And so he was very outspoken. Van Morrison, another musician, was also very outspoken against it. And the two of them were working together. Actually, Van Morrison wrote a song.
Starting point is 00:43:37 I don't know if Eric Clapton was part of that or not. But they were talking about it. They were singing about it. The tyranny, the danger of the COVID vaccine that was all there. And that got Rolling Stone pretty upset. You know, you pay a price for this kind of stuff. And I just got to say this is, when I saw this, it's like, man, it just doesn't stop, does it? Just keeps going and going and going.
Starting point is 00:43:59 It's the ever-ready bunny. And now they've got this panic that is out there. Drudge report is really pushing the panic button and a lot of these news sites about the Hanto virus, which they said is something you get from rats. So, yeah, we know rats make people sick in variety of ways. I don't think it's necessarily a virus. I don't believe in viruses. And I would refer you to the work that was done by the Bailey's, Sam Bailey, and her husband.
Starting point is 00:44:26 And they pretty much made a pretty good case against the idea of contagion and against virology. But there is something that is there. The rats are filthy and diseased. And you had several people die on a cruise ship. And everybody's panicking about this. and the media is really trying to stoke this thing. And so I don't think it's going to go anywhere. I don't think there's any risk with this.
Starting point is 00:44:50 But it's interesting to see that they're still not only pushing, trying to say, well, we've got another viruses out there, but also still pushing against people who had stood up to the lies back in the day and have paid the price and continue to pay the price. Well, we're going to take a quick break, and we'll be right back. Interested in a curated list of the finest classical music, find it now at APSRadio.com. Defending the American Dream. You're listening to the David Knight Show.
Starting point is 00:48:06 All right, joining us now is Eric Peters of Eric Petersotos.com. I think you can also do E.P.O.O.S.com also works. Always great to have Eric here, a fellow believer in liberty. and mobility. He loves cars and he loves freedom. I mean, who doesn't? It used to be that these two things were tied together. As a matter of fact, they still are. And we're losing both of them rapidly. So joining us now is Eric Peters. And I guess Eric, you know, I looked at some of your articles. One of the things you said you would do to try to get you out of this, as you contemplate the fact that they're really trying to actively destroy this country. And it takes your mind off of it
Starting point is 00:48:47 to go for a ride in your restored Trans Am that you've got. It does. For however much longer I can afford to do it, I put $40 in it, and that was about a third of a tank. Yeah, yeah. It is amazing sticker shock, and we all see that. It's crazy what's happening. But, of course, it is deja vu all over again. And I said, when I started talking about this at the very beginning, I said, I know how this is going to work out.
Starting point is 00:49:12 This is going to be worse than the OPEC well embargo. Our economy is in worse shape to start with, and this is going to be a much bigger shock to the system. And I think that's going to be borne out and all this stuff. But I said, I just hope we don't get disco music back. I think that'd be more like a take. But you're right, though. You know, I've been having deja vu because in many ways this reminds me of the situation back in 08, just before General Motors went bankrupt and 4Auls went bankrupt.
Starting point is 00:49:43 Only, as you say, I think it's going to be worse this. time. This time around General Motors and Ford and also Stalantis, which is the corporation that owns the Dodge and Ram brands and Jeep brands, they are almost entirely dependent for profitability on big trucks and SUVs. Back in 2008, they still had cars in their lineup. Ford doesn't sell any cars anymore, with the exception of the Mustang. And only cars, General Motors sells are the Corvette and a couple of Cadillac sedans. And that's nothing mass market is my point. So what happens, it's bad enough now that these things cost $70,000 for a half-time pickup truck or an SUV. But when we get to $5, $6 a gallon, maybe even more than that, my feeling is that these things are going to just brick, basically, at dealership lots.
Starting point is 00:50:29 They're not going to be able to sell these things. These are vehicles that are generally owned by people who are comfortably middle class if there's such a thing anymore. Yeah, that's what they're working on destroying, isn't it? Yeah, I mean, you know, the Uber rich are not driving around in 1,500 Silveradoes and Tahos. You know, that's another echelon. That's a whole other category of people. Anyway, so what happens when these things start to pile up? Well, I think General Motors will probably go bankrupt again.
Starting point is 00:50:54 And perhaps Ford as well, Ford has been bleeding money. So is GM on that EV fiasco. Those laws continue to tack up. So what then? You know, I suppose you and I are going to be on the hook for that, too. In addition to everything else, we'll get to pay for the bailout of these big corporations once again. Yeah, yeah, they're too big to fail. As a matter of fact, you know, Eric, there was an interesting article.
Starting point is 00:51:14 that I saw this week about somebody in New Zealand. And they said the government there is coming up with a fuel rationing plan. And they've set up five different tiers of priority, right? Guess who's number one? Oh, well, that would be the government, right? Of course. So they get first pick at all the fuel that is left. Then if there's some left over, that goes to, guess what, the big corporations.
Starting point is 00:51:40 They're number two. Then number three is infrastructure. maintaining that. So the corporations and the government come ahead of even the infrastructure maintenance. Then you have small businesses and farmers, independent contractors. They come in at number four. Dead last is the consumer. If there's anything left over from the table, any crumbs on the floor, they're allowed to have them at that point.
Starting point is 00:52:06 But that really, that hierarchy that is there, and that shows the ultimate contempt, I think, for who we are in our country anymore. And it's not just in New Zealand, it's in our country as well. It's all the way across the West, isn't it? Sure, and I think it's delivered. Oh, yeah. This could be sort of the, you know,
Starting point is 00:52:25 the final push to get us out of our cars by essentially making it impossible economically for us to drive them and perhaps even illegal for us to drive them. I caught something the other day you may have as well. I think it was the CEO of Chevron who predicts that there are going to be shortages that are going to be far worse than they were back in the 70s.
Starting point is 00:52:46 Oh, yes. Yeah, you know, this is not fooling around. Certainly in California, a lot of people out there don't recognize or understand that California actually imports the bulk of its gasoline, its oil, because the regulatory environment in California is so severe that they can't extract and refine the abundant oil that they have in their own state. So they're dependent on exports. Well, those exports have been shut down.
Starting point is 00:53:09 So, you know, California, you may think, well, I don't live in California, but California critically affects the rest of the economy. The great bulk of the things that enter this country come into places like the port of Los Angeles. And they have to be shipped across California into the rest of the country. And also, California grows a lot of food. Yeah. Diesel and dependent and fertilizer dependent. These are other things that are related to what's going on over there in the Strait of Hormuz.
Starting point is 00:53:35 So it's not just that we may not be able to afford or be allowed to drive by the fall. We might be starving by the fall. Yeah. very, very, you see? Well, a lot of people are. I mean, you know, before we are starving here, there's going to be a lot of people in developing countries who will be starving because you just won't have the money for food. It'll get so expensive. But isn't it interesting? You know, when you look at how Trump has presented himself as he very carefully constructs these fake images of himself, just as carefully constructed and just as fake as all these superhero memes and Godlike
Starting point is 00:54:09 memes that he puts on social media. He's created this idea, and he had done some things in terms of overturning the endangerment rulings on the EPA and other things like that. He had made some moves that got people who were fighting the climate Nazis and fearmongers and everything. A lot of people applauded that. And I even said myself, I thought that was probably the best thing about the first Trump regime, even though he didn't go nearly as far as I would like to see him go, but he started doing some more of that this time. But what about if you got the guy who said, drill, baby drill, what if he's the one who basically kills what they call the fossil fuels? I don't like to use that term. They're not fossils and they're not, you know, that's a misnomer.
Starting point is 00:54:58 That is something that's put out there, I believe, by the CIA and their fake peak oil narrative, which is absolutely fake. But what if he's the guy who wants to be? ends up killing that with what he does with the Trump oil embargo. That's what I call it. It's just like the opaque oil embargo except worse because it affects far more of the global supply. I agree. And whether it's the result of recklessness or some deliberate, awful plan, I don't know that it matters because the end result ends up being exactly the same thing. That's right. I think a lot of people just psychologically and emotionally are having difficulty dealing with the now open contempt that he shows for his own supporters.
Starting point is 00:55:36 when he says things like, it's worth it, according to him. Yeah. I mean, and the irony, of course, is that the bulk of his supporters are blue-collar people. You know, out in the middle of the country, people who actually work with their hands and their tools and equipment to earn money. And those are the people who are being hurt the most by these effective tax increases. I like to call it the gas tax because that's the war tax. That's what it is. That's right.
Starting point is 00:56:02 You know, getting around it? Do you think he ever asked his chauffeur when the chauffeur, when the chauffeur, filled up the tank how much it cost? Yeah. And to give him kind of some benefit of the doubt, that could be an aspect of it because somebody in his position, he is a billionaire. And, you know, he doesn't pay his gas bill. So he's got accountants and people who do that for him. You know, people fill up his vehicles. People fill up Air Force One. He just gets transported. And I think that it's probably very difficult, even with the best of intentions, for somebody who is in his tax bracket to be able to relate in any way to people who have to sweat putting $100 into the tank
Starting point is 00:56:36 of their car. But Eric, he's a, he's a blue-collar billionaire, we were told. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, he worked out of-a-law. I never bought that. I never bought. I couldn't see Trump relating to any of the blue-collar people that were out there. And when I saw what he was doing the first time through, this boneheaded stuff, and again,
Starting point is 00:56:56 I don't care if the guy is stupid. I don't care if he's evil. I don't care if he's got if he's senile. It doesn't make any difference. What he does is what he does. And what he's doing is evil, stupid, boneheaded and demented all at the same time. When you look at what the guy actually does, there's absolutely no way that anybody can make an excuse for this. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:57:18 It's just no way. Well, I agree. And what about the things he hasn't done? Remember a few months ago when he was talking about the tiny guys? Remember, I think you and I talked about it in one of the prior episodes, you know, for people who aren't, who aren't conversant, what that means is he was referring to these little vehicles, these little, like, low-cost vehicles that you can get in Japan and other export markets that you can't get in the United States.
Starting point is 00:57:40 And he made a big announcement about how he was going to, by stroke of executive order, allow the tiny cars to be manufactured in the United States. Yeah. People didn't pick up on that, as if there were any prohibition against manufacturing them in this country. There never was. The problem was, why would you manufacture them here when you can't sell them here? That's the point. You can't legally sell them because they're non-compliant with a variety of federal regulations having to do with safety principally and also emissions.
Starting point is 00:58:06 Not that they're unsafe and not that they're dirty. Nonetheless, they just don't comply with some of these requirements. And he's done absolutely nothing to alter the regulatory regime to make it feasible for Toyota, for example, or Nissan, to bring vehicles into this country that are readily available in Mexico, by the way. I did an article a couple of weeks ago listing about half a dozen vehicles you can buy. south of the border for $15,000 or less, which we're not allowed to buy here because, you know, they don't quite comply with one jot or one tittle of the federal motor vehicle safety manual. Oh, yeah. That's the key issue.
Starting point is 00:58:42 You know, when we look at this, you know, our trade deficit, as if that mattered, and I'm of the firm belief that the trade deficit does not matter at all. It is an artificial nationalist metric that is out there. It really doesn't make any difference. We want to have manufacturing here in this country. But that's the wrong way to go about it. The wrong way to go about it is prohibit manufactured items from other countries. Because then what you do is you prohibit building blocks that people domestically could use to get started.
Starting point is 00:59:15 But I've said all along, adding another tax is not going to create more manufacturing. This is the fallacy that we've always seen from, Democrats, that we're going to tax our way to prosperity. The presumption of Donald Trump and Peter Navarra, who, by the way, is a failed Democrat politician from California, their presumption is that somehow this tax is going to be a creative engine because you put a tax on manufacturing goods coming from other countries that somehow people are going to line up to start their own businesses. No, what would cause that would be to get rid of these regulations that are strangling business? Sure.
Starting point is 00:59:54 And I had, you know, going back in my family's history, my grandfather back during the Great Depression was doing patent medicine in his backyard. And then he had his sons selling it door to door. And so it was a long way from there to the point where I was graduating from high school thinking about what I wanted to do. and I'd grown up listening to my dad and my uncle talk about how difficult the government was constantly throwing monkey wrenches out of them. And the same way that we've seen Trump throwing monkey wrenches at the entire infrastructure, okay? But that was the kind of stuff that you typically didn't see back in the 60s and early 70s.
Starting point is 01:00:37 You didn't see that if you didn't have a business, but you could see it coming. And so I looked at that and it's like, well, I don't want to get in this business because at that point in time, they were doing manufacturing of cosmetics and all the, the different regulations that were out there, even with the ATF, he had to keep on file with the ATF, and they paid him no interest on. He had to keep an amount of money that was worth more than our house was, and just keep it constantly there because they'd buy alcohol for perfume and things like that. And the ATF was on them, but it's always the regulation. And it's like, if you want to make this, if you want manufacturing to come back, you've got to take away the
Starting point is 01:01:12 regulation. It's a regulation that is killing it. Yep, if anything, the availability of lower cost imports exerts positive competitive pressure. That's right. Domestic manufacturers, and that in turn puts pressure on getting rid of some of these regulations. You can imagine, for example, if, you know, if a company could come into this country and start selling $12,000 cars, the other car companies that are effectively forced to sell 30 and $40,000 and $50,000 cars would be saying, wait a minute, we need relief here. We need, we need some of these regulations like with regard to the airbag thing and and a number of other things. Those need to be done away with or we're going to go out of business.
Starting point is 01:01:49 Give people alternatives, that's a positive aspect of the free market. What's happening instead of these tariffs encouraging manufacturing, all they're doing is increasing prices across the board, which is no benefit to the average American. You know, there's this idea that somehow, let's say, Ford and General Motors that manufacture vehicles in this country are going to lower the cost of their vehicles. No, they're not.
Starting point is 01:02:12 They're just going to, you know, everything's going to get equalized. Because what do you and I do? As consumers, we have no option. You know, we're stuck. We have no choice. If you want the item, this is what the item costs. And by the way, Trump apparently is about to put another 25% tariff on vehicles that are made in Europe, which affects. That's right.
Starting point is 01:02:30 Yeah. Out of BMW and Mercedes. I just looked that up before we went on air. And it's like, you know, why did he go from 15%, which was what was agreed to at Turnbury? Why did he go to 25%? And he just comes out and he says, well, they're not abiding by that term. Barry agreement. So I'm going to go, I'm going to disregard it as well. And he never said what it was that he thought the Europeans were not abiding by. He just says, well, they're not abiding by it. Well,
Starting point is 01:02:56 what did they do? Well, I'm not going to talk about that. I'm just, they're not abiding by it. So I'm just going to random, I'm just going to raise the prices to 25%. I think it has everything to do with his anger as he's failing around and he's telling everybody that he's won the war that he's destroyed Iran and all the Meanwhile, he is desperately crying out for help from NATO. He's not getting it, so he's going to go up on the tariffs. Absolutely. I've said all along that what he is all about, he's not about geopolitics. He's about ego politics.
Starting point is 01:03:27 And the same thing is true of his tariffs when he looks like. He gets angry with the country. So what does he do? He adds, he doubles the tariffs or he takes it up over 100%. You know, he's threatened to do that. He's done that and he's pulled it back, you know, with his taco stuff all the time. It's just infantile, what he is doing. doing an incredibly destructive. And I think deliberately so. I think so too. It's just so,
Starting point is 01:03:49 if you take it at face value that, you know, he's a MAGA guy and he's trying to make America great again, well, the simplest things that he could do would be to reduce the regulatory burden, do things like, hey, if you want to go to Mexico and you want to buy a $12,000 Nissan, you can drive that back into this country. That's your right as an American. That would be massively popular. And instead of being a 35% approval, I think all of a sudden, he'd be at 60% approval. So why is he doing that? That's right.
Starting point is 01:04:16 You know, it's counterintuitive because from a rational point of view, you think, like, he can't be this stupid and he can't be this demented. Therefore, he must be that evil. That's the only thing that makes any sense to me for what it's worth. Well, he did bankrupt six casinos that he owned. And so whenever he puts out this stuff saying, I hold all the cards. It's like, yeah, you held all the cards and all the house rules as well of the casinos that went bankrupt underneath you.
Starting point is 01:04:39 And you're doing it again now to everybody. It's crazy. maliciousness, you know, percolate upwards every once in a while. You know, for example, the way that he treated Marjorie Taylor Green, again, I'm not, you know, like beating the drum for Marjorie Taylor Green, but the fact is she was perhaps his most ardent supporter when he was out of office and during the 2024 campaign, she just did everything she could conceivably do to help him get reelected. And then for having the audacity to express her own mind with regard to this Epstein stuff, all of a sudden she's not only persona non-grata,
Starting point is 01:05:11 she's a traitor. She's a horrible person. You know, Trump says all these vile things about her. Same with regard to Tom Massey. Same with regard to anybody who in any way deviates from the orthodoxy of Trump worship. Well, it's the narcissism. I mean, he worships himself. And so you better do that as well. So I think that he probably thinks that, well, you know, they don't support me anymore
Starting point is 01:05:34 that you mean to rank and file people. So they deserve it. I don't care. You know, they eat cake. I mean, that's the Marie Antoinette thing. And Marie Antoinette, actually, in her defense, you know, this is a poor woman who grew up in a court and she didn't have any understanding of the outside world. She was a courtesan, basically. So from her point of view in Versailles, there's plenty of cake.
Starting point is 01:05:52 Why don't the peasant's cake? It's everywhere. Trump knows better. You know, and he just doesn't care. He regards us as the help. Yeah. That's what we are. That's right.
Starting point is 01:06:02 Yeah, he's out there truly is in kind of a Versailles mentality as he's putting his name on everything. He's replicating the Arch de Triumph in France and going to call it the Arch de Trump here, I guess. Just take something and do a crude version of it. And of course, there's this other thing, this Garden of Heroes. And I got to say, you know, long ago, I got, I guess it was back in the 90s, I said, I'm just not coming back to Washington anymore. We went up with a family for a vacation to go to one of the museums that was up there. I said, I'm just fed up with this place.
Starting point is 01:06:41 Everywhere you go, it's a mausoleum, okay? It's like a memorial to a dead society, and we really are a dead society. There was a great article on Mises talking about how this is really the fourth version of America that we're living in right now. You know, we had the articles of Confederation. We had the next one was up to the Civil War, the between the Civil War and the New Deal, and now here we are after the New Deal, and they're laying the foundation for very viciously. technocracy. I mean, it's just amazing when I look at it. I see the Republicans and the Democrats in a
Starting point is 01:07:14 bipartisan effort. You've got some of the most conservative Republicans, some of the most liberal Democrats coming together to lay a regulatory framework for how they are going to not only set up and subsidize all these tools of technocracy. And if you want to participate in society in that new society that they're creating, then you're going to have to give them identity papers and all the rest of stuff that were the hallmark of Nazi occupiers, you know. And so you're not going to be able to use AI unless you can give them ID and biometrics and all the rest of the stuff. We're not going to be able to use any crypto or stablecoin unless you do the same thing. Not going to be able to use internet or social media or applications. I mean, just go down and down the list. They've got all these disruptive technologies that
Starting point is 01:07:59 they want to put in place after they burn down the world that we've got now. And then if you want to use any of those, they're setting the framework here so that everything has to be by permission so they can surveil everything that you do. We've seen this happening in the automobiles as well, but now this is happening with everything. I just brought that up because we're just a few months now from the beginning of the introduction of the 2027 model year cars. And there was something that was passed back in 2020 or 2021 part of the gigantic infrastructure bill that Biden put forward that requires, beginning with the 2020-7 model year that all new vehicles have some form of distracted or drowsy or impaired driver technology.
Starting point is 01:08:47 They've been leaving this out piece by piece. I've been noticing this for about the last two years in the cars that I get to test drive. You look at the steering column, and on the steering column, there's what looks like at first glance you think it's perhaps an accessory indicator cluster of some kind. maybe they didn't have enough room over here and they decided to put some warning lights here that might come on when I first saw it, that's what I thought it was. And then when I was doing the monologues I do with my little handheld video recorder and I went back to look at it, I saw the little infrared eyes that were watching. So that's what it's going to be in all the new cars come 2027, this eye monitor eye movement system that constantly scans your face, your expressions, where you're looking. and if the system doesn't like where you're looking or your expression,
Starting point is 01:09:35 it will, you know, at first, just prod you with some nanny suggestion that you pay attention to your driving, that you look straight ahead. The Toyota I had told me to sit up straight if you can believe that. I felt like I was back in fifth grade again. Set up straight. But, you know, inevitably the next step is that the technology will be used to throttle the car. You know, if you're not driving in the manner that they want you to, who drive. They'll just dial back the throttle. They'll apply the brakes. And as crazy it sounds,
Starting point is 01:10:06 they'll even have the capability to steer the car off to the side of the road and shut it down. All of these technologies have been embedded in new cars now. Yes. Five, 10 years. I've seen a VW ad where they're proud of that. You've got a woman who's driving along the interstate, she pretends to nod off and fall asleep, and it slows down a little bit and then goes off to the shoulder of the road and stops. They're proud of that. Lance said, set up straighter will raise your insurance rates. Many government, yeah, we'll just take over the car. Forge has filed a patent for an iteration of this technology whereby if you are deemed to be in a foul state of mind as determined by your facial expressions, if you seem angry, the vehicle will not work. It will not
Starting point is 01:10:53 permit you to drive. If it thinks you're not in the right frame of mind to be driving, General Motors has a patent out there for something that they called a gate, a gate monitor, meaning that not only you monitored inside the car, but as you approach the car, the cameras watch how you walk. And if the, and if the cameras determine that you are perhaps impaired because you're a little unsteady on your feet, maybe you stubbed your toe, you know, maybe your efforts, who knows, but for whatever reason, if the thing thinks that you might be impaired, then it bricks the car. Wow. This stuff is almost here.
Starting point is 01:11:24 It's a matter of months now before this stuff will be in your next new car if you choose to buy one. Yeah, I won't be buying one. Yeah, that's amazing. It's just horrible how they have weaponized technology against everything that we do, isn't it? And that's what I see. You know, it's somebody who loved technology. I went into engineering because of that. And it's gotten to the point where I really despise it.
Starting point is 01:11:48 You know, Eisenhower talked about the military industrial complex, but he also talked about the military industrial academic complex. And what he was saying was that the government was going to take over all research. Well, they have. They've taken over all research. They fund it. They control it. And they put it to sinister uses, don't they?
Starting point is 01:12:05 They want to know everything about everything that we do. And we're not allowed to know anything they do, right? Correct. Exactly. And they wanted for a variety of reasons. One, they want to monetize it. That's the corporate incentive. They want to figure out a way to profit from all of this information to sell you things.
Starting point is 01:12:20 And they also want to use it to control. you know, the insurance companies have, I'm sure, are ecstatic and jumping in the air and clicking their heels at the prospect of being able to know every incident of you speeding or making an illegal you turn or not wearing a seatbelt or doing any other thing that they decide can become the pretext for charging you more for the coverage that you're forced to buy. That's right. All this is headed. And this is, you know, when we look at Trump, again, another clue that the guy is not who he says he is. He's not an America first guy. He's not
Starting point is 01:12:52 a populist, nationalist. He is a globalist. Everything this guy has done lines up exactly with what the World Economic Forum wanted. It worked out very conveniently for them to get a guy in who pretended to be exactly the opposite. He pretended to be
Starting point is 01:13:08 their opponent. And yet, he stabbed us in the back. He got behind us to stab us in the back. And when you look at his model, rather than going with a model that made America great because America was free rather than deregulating and other things like that. He wants to always buy into a company like you did with Intel. He wants to have a partnership with everything just like the Chinese government does. And why does the Chinese government like that?
Starting point is 01:13:34 For the same reason, the Trump people like it. Because they get incredibly rich. They get a share of this stuff. They get a kickback from it. You look at the open corruption of the Trump family and his sons. and it's very much like what you see in China. You know, they're communist, but they really have a fascist economic model where you have the government owning along with the corporations. You give them a share or you don't do business there. And that if you look at what Trump is doing is really what he's trying to recreate. They've used, the globalists have used China as their beta test site
Starting point is 01:14:08 for so many things that they want to do, whether it's a one-child population control or whether it's their economic model. And that's where he's taking us. That's why he's not going to look at freedom. He's not about that. He's about the globalist approach of we're going to have a merger of corporations and state. And the corporations will be stakeholders and so will the politicians because you'll pay them for the privilege.
Starting point is 01:14:32 Yeah, I think it's inaccurate to refer to the Chinese as communists. They're corporatists. That's right. That's the new business model. And it's literally that, this merging of corporate and government power together and making it impossible to operate outside of that envelope. That's right. It's a horrific thing.
Starting point is 01:14:52 They figured out in this country, among other things, like the flock cameras. That's a really good example. Oh, yeah. It's flock cameras. The government is at least as a matter of law prohibited from doing certain things by the Constitution, but private corporations can do them. And then they can, as the terminology is share with the federal government. That's right.
Starting point is 01:15:09 So now you've got these private companies putting up these cameras everywhere. to surveil us. And, you know, the data is being shared, you know, with various government entities. And brilliant. It's absolutely. That's right. And that goes back, that's right. It goes back to the beginning of the national security state. You know, right after World War II, Truman created the NSA as well as they established the CIA. And that's why when you had the Church Committee hearings, and the Pike Committee hearings in the 1970s. They turned it into this thing about assassinations and heart attack guns and stuff like that. But those hearings were really about the fact they were spying on American citizens from the very beginning of their agencies,
Starting point is 01:15:52 doing it without a warrant. And so they had the FISA hearings. They came up with the FISA Act, the FISA court, and all the rest of the stuff. They then used that as legal cover to give them excuse for things that were prohibited in the Constitution. They were prohibited from doing. But we have people like Mike Johnson out there saying, well, we can't have a warrant. Can you imagine how that would slow everything down? Whether you're talking about immigration or whether you're talking about spying on American citizens.
Starting point is 01:16:16 But they tested this, you know, back in the 1960s. They took a Supreme Court case up there and the Supreme Court said, well, if this is data that the phone company has about you, that actually belongs to the phone company. It doesn't belong to you. So they can turn it over to the government if they want. Guess what? They want to do that because they get a monopoly. the government can show how much it appreciates these large corporations.
Starting point is 01:16:39 And that's been the basis for this kind of fascism. But I think really more accurately, it is technocracy that is really happening. And these guys have known that and they've talked about it. Even on the Democrat side, you had the big new Brzynski, who was talking about the technocratic age. He said actually between two ages was what he called his book. And he was saying, you know, very soon we're going to know what you're going to do before you know what you're going to do.
Starting point is 01:17:04 We're going to be tracking and surveilling everything that you do. And this is what they've used China for. They've used China as a beta test site for technocracy. And we're going to get this good and hard. And it really is converging. I mean, they're laying out a new constitution with all these different acts that they've got out there for crypto as well as for artificial intelligence. I think one of the more troubling facets of it is they now have got the technological capability to store essentially a limitless amount of information. They may not actually be monitoring us in real time at any given moment, but everything that we do, every keystroke, everything that we see online, all of those things, they're being recorded somewhere.
Starting point is 01:17:44 So that it's on future point, forget ex post facto law, they'll be able to criminalize certain things. And then they'll be able to go back and say, oh, well, look, you did, dot to die, X, Y, and Z. That's right. And pull that back up and hold it against you. So it's advisable at this point to assume that absolutely everything that you do online is recorded somewhere. And if there's any question in your mind that this might not be a prudent thing to do, maybe don't do it. That's right. Yeah, William Benny said that about a decade ago when I was talking to me.
Starting point is 01:18:10 He said, they're recording everything. He said, don't tell me that they can't go back. I forget what it was we were talking about at the time. He said, don't tell me they can't go back and find that. And they've got that everywhere. What they were missing at the time was the ability to go back and data mine all that stuff to sort through it. They now have that capability.
Starting point is 01:18:27 That's what we were seeing with Doge. And that's what we have seen with Trump weaponizing his head, of housing and urban development, the guy who's head of HUD, his name is Pulte. And he comes from a home that, a family that was a large home builder, Pulte Homes. And, but what he did was for Trump's purpose. He went back and looked at people that Trump wanted to come after in terms of, bring me the man, I'll find the crime. And what he did was he went back and audited all the real estate transactions of people using
Starting point is 01:18:59 artificial intelligence. And that's how he found the loans that were taken out by Lisa Cook with the Federal Reserve, as well as Letitia James, the New York Attorney General, and said, you took out loans saying this was for your own personal use, and yet you never lived there. That's the kind of thing they're going to throw in our face. That's the kind of auditing they're going to be able to do. And that day is here. I mean, for over a decade, they've been building data centers like the massive NSA data center out in the middle of the desert in Utah, Bluffdale, Utah and storing everything they can about us. And now they're at the point where they can go back and data mine that for the people,
Starting point is 01:19:37 but they don't like for whatever reason. And the question is, what do we do? I think that's on everybody's line. Well, what do you think we do? I look at it, and I think really where the rubber meets the road is these massive AI data centers. And again, in Utah, they've got a data center that is going to be the biggest one so far. It's 40,000 acres, two and a half times aside. is Manhattan, and it's going to use more power than the entire state of Utah. And people rose up
Starting point is 01:20:07 by the hundreds to go to a local city council meeting. And three city councilmen just rubber-stamped it. They didn't care what the people said. And so that's the issue. I mean, that's where you've got to stop it. And yet, you can't stop it because they own these people, even at the local level, it's too far gone. But I think that's where it needs to be stopped. I think that's the only way they're going to be able to stop it. But then, you know, how do you get control of this? And we've got a lot of people who are very, very corrupt, even at the most local level. I have two answers. And I wish I knew what the third one was. The first one is awareness. You know, people have to understand what's going on. And the second thing is noncompliance. You know, there's still a lot of room for noncompliance.
Starting point is 01:20:49 Don't be passive and just agree to do something, particularly if it's optional. In many cases, you don't have to do certain things. Real ID is a good example. You don't have to do many states get the real ID. Granted, it entails some inconvenience if you don't get the real ID in the event that you perhaps want to travel by air. Well, suck it up and endure some inconvenience, if need be. And going down the road a little farther, I think, unfortunately, I don't like this.
Starting point is 01:21:14 Nobody likes this. It may be necessary to accept that there are going to be some consequences for noncompliance. I mean, I was prepared to do that as far as during COVID. You know, I was prepared if you had. Right. We've already had that dry run. And that was, that was something where he moved the overtone window for the people who are going to comply. But he also moved the overturn window for those of us who are going to resist as well. Yeah. Yeah. That's key. And I have no desire to go to jail, but I, you know, I was prepared to get arrested if need be. And I, I, I was a little provocative.
Starting point is 01:21:40 You know, I would go into stores without a mask on and just go about my business. Luckily, nothing happened. But it might have. I just, and I just wished at the time, I was thinking, if only more people would do this. I'm trying to put my personal horn, horn. But my God, what happened to the spirit that used to be characteristic of Americans? If enough of us said, I'm not playing along with this nonsense. You know, I'm going to go shop. That's right.
Starting point is 01:22:04 They could have enforced it. The whole thing would have fallen apart. It's such important and such a simple and such an easy thing. And I remember, and I've told this story to my audience many times, but, you know, going around, we went out a couple of times to eat. And I thought, well, I'm not going to go to some of these chains because I know how they're going to act. They're going to just do whatever corporate policy is.
Starting point is 01:22:22 But I'm going to go to some of the local restaurants that we know that I know the owner works in the store because I used to do that. They used to have some stores and we used to work in them. And I know exactly what I would have done. I would have said, yeah, sure, come on. I'm not going to tell anybody about that. But they tried to enforce that stupid mask rule on me that you're going to have to wear a mask before I seat you. Then you can take it off. And it's like, I absolutely refuse to do that.
Starting point is 01:22:45 And I raised my voice. I got really loud with him in the two places where this happened. and I kind of regretted it after in a sense. I don't like to argue with people and shout at people, but they deserved it. And I said, bring me the manager. I want to talk to the manager. And I got out there. And I said, you know this is total nonsense.
Starting point is 01:23:04 I didn't put it that way. But I used a stronger term. But he said, yeah, I know. But you have to do it anyway. I said, no, I don't. And you will never see me in your restaurant again. I will never come here again. And so, yeah, there is a place where you go.
Starting point is 01:23:19 to draw the line. I had a dental appointment as well, and I had prepaid for some work. And I had to call Alex and tell him that I wasn't going to be able to make it in for a particular thing that was happening. And he goes, well, I don't know. This is the hill to die on. I said, no, it is the hill to die on. Every one of these hills is the hill to die on. Are we going to let them take this over? And I absolutely refused to budge. And they backed down at the dental place. But I said, are you telling me that I got to wear mask in here and then you're going to put me in the chair and I'm going to have my mouth open and you're going to be down in my mouth the entire time. Come on. Let's get real about this. Besides, I've already paid you. I've hired ways with the dentist that I had been
Starting point is 01:23:57 going to for 15 years over there for exactly the same reason. He wanted me to play kabuki. I was supposed to put on the stupid mask to walk literally 15 feet from the waiting room to the examination room. Oh, I was going to do it. And this was a guy I'd known for 15 years and was on a friendly basis with and we parted ways. You know, he was all angry that I wouldn't play along. And I guess he felt shamed because he was, you know, cowing and bowing because he wanted to maintain his practice. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:25 Oh, I despise that. I really do despise that. You've got a funny article here at evening out at Taco Bell. Not forgotten about the movie Demolition Man. You know, yeah, let's set that up for people. Yeah. Well, the sci-fi, you know, it's, it's, the, the effects are kind of cheesy. It was made in when, 1993, or four, something like,
Starting point is 01:24:44 that's a long time. And it's a dystopian, you know, futuristic novel, a scenario in which Stallone is a cop who has been put into his cryosleep for 30 years. So, you know, he goes up to roughly our era, I think, 2030. So he was frozen in the 90s and now he's in this, this new world where everything is hyper, hyper micromanaged and controlled. People are fined for raising their voice or uttering a curse word. And the most extravagant luxury, is an evening out at Taco Bell. Like that's become, you know, the apotheosis of fine dining because everything else has fallen by the wayside.
Starting point is 01:25:23 So they make a big production about going out to Taco Bell. And they run for the border. Yeah. It was prescient. It was predictive because these things, you know, we used to take as kind of low culture, low brow, I'll get a fast food burger. Now it's becoming so expensive. It is an indulgence.
Starting point is 01:25:35 Yeah. I had not been to a Burger King in a while. And Dawn and I were out one day and we'd been out all day and we were tired and it was late and we were heading home. So we said, hey, let's stop at that burger king up there. And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, we got, we got two whoppers, just for the heck. That's all we got. No fries, no drinks. Two whoppers, $15. Wow. And the wopper was this, it wasn't like what you see in the commercial either, you know, you know, you know, this really lush looking burger when they show it to you on the TV. And what we got was this sad looking thing, you know, you know, you know, you know, with, with, it's dry, dry, it's a
Starting point is 01:26:12 salty meat in the middle and a kind of flaccid piece of lettuce on top of it. The only thing was big about it was the bun and the price. Yeah, yeah, it got a big price. It's a whopper of a price. That's right. Yeah, it's crazy, isn't it? And the lifestyle that we ordered seems to be out of stock. But, you know, you go back and look at it's all these dystopian movies.
Starting point is 01:26:31 They were spot on, weren't they? But the ones that were talking about how everything was going to get better and brighter, those have just kind of fallen by the wayside. They look really naive now, don't they? They do. And I think one of the common themes that was running through those movies, going all the way back to HG Wells in his novels, is the infantilization and the passivity that's been gendered in the bulk of the people. You know, people have been tamed. We're like feedlot cattle who just stand there. You know, waiting to go down the shoot, you know, without even try to kick the farmer on the way down the shoot. It's remarkable what they've managed to do. You know, they've created a herd animal society of largely obese people who just do what they're told. I haven't seen the movie, but I've seen the reviews of Andy Circus's new imagining of animal farm. And basically, he changed it completely to not make the communists or the totalitarians the bad guys. And instead, he managed to somehow create a new character who is a capitalist and she's the bad person and all this stuff.
Starting point is 01:27:34 But it is beyond belief, juvenile. But these people are spot on with a lot of this stuff. As a matter of fact, we look at the technocracy. Had HGL's shape of things to come, and I think they just called it things to come when they did it in the 1930s, as Raymond Massey was in it. And it truly is what we see happening now. I can't look at that without seeing people like Elon Musk and Bezos in that role. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:03 Sure. You know, I remember you probably do as well, and I should have paid closer attention to it. I think it was during the very first week of Trump's second term, may even have been the day after he was inaugurated, when he had that very public press briefing with Ellison. Oh, yeah, yeah. Stargate, yeah. Stargate, yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:22 That should have been, you know, what they say, what they call in law enforcement a clue about where things were headed. I said, look at this. He's been gone for four years. He comes back. The very first thing he does is sell MRNA. But what he's doing is now it's different. Now he's going to team up the MRNA with artificial intelligence.
Starting point is 01:28:40 And he and Melania and the entire regime there of Trump has been pushing AI and clearing the decks for AI. And this is something that is going to be weaponized against us. I always think of when I look at artificial intelligence now, this is going to be wonderful. I always think of the Twilight Zone episode to serve mankind. Yes. The catamites or whatever their name was. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:04 It's a cookbook. It's a cookbook. They're going to eat us. So that's really the kind of service that we're going to get from AI. Yeah, it's so, you know, it's depressing and it's dehumanizing. And I do my best because I need to to find a way to be positive to some extent. So that's why I take my Trans-Am out as often as I can, you know, to feel alive again. And, you know, we get so wrapped up, particularly people who do what you and I do.
Starting point is 01:29:28 I happen to be online a lot and have to wade in the sewers, so to speak, to see what's going on. Stare into the abyss. Yeah. But it's important to step away from that to the extent that's possible. You know, with regard to cars, it's stuff that's coming online with the facial recognition and the eye movement monitors. Don't buy a new car. Buy something older.
Starting point is 01:29:45 Empower yourself. Learn how to fix it. You know, have a vehicle that you're not dependent on a dealership and $100 an hour of service for. I mean, I understand it's a little bit of a lift. You know, people have gotten used to being comfortable and not having to do these things. And they specialize. And, you know, a guy becomes a stockbroker and he knows how to do that.
Starting point is 01:30:03 It doesn't know how to do anything else. Well, you know, earlier Americans were much more versatile. They were much more competent in a wide variety of things. I think that's important. Yeah. You know, I think you should know a little bit about everything to the extent that you can, instead of being so pigeonholed in these one things, which, you know, leave you dependent. I mean, I don't, I did not grow up in the computer age, so I don't really know that much about computers, but I've learned. I'm not, by any thing, is anything masterful with computers, but I've learned how to do a few little things with computers instead of going, oh, it doesn't work, I got to take it down to the guy and have him look at it.
Starting point is 01:30:36 Yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah, it's kind of the farmers of the guys who are the jack of all trades. And that's why one of the earliest things you and I talked about was the millennial copyright act that was being used by John Deere, as well as some of the car companies to say, you don't own that car. We own it in perpetuity because we own the intellectual property of the software. You're not allowed to even buy a module from us and replace it yourself. You've got to have us do it.
Starting point is 01:31:02 or one of our technicians or dealerships to it. And that really didn't set well with the farmers who were used to doing all this stuff on their own, you know, putting stuff together with baili wire or whatever. It got a lot more complicated than that. But, you know, if you look at this whole farming model, it's like everything else in the economy. And it's like Trump really doesn't understand how everything is interconnected. Certainly Peter Navarro does. And I think Elon Musk got it right when he said he's as dumb as a sack of bricks.
Starting point is 01:31:31 because they don't understand how everything is connected. He doesn't even understand how the Strait of Hormuz affects us. It keeps saying all the time. And Pete Higgs says, well, we don't use the Strait of Hormuz, so it doesn't affect us. Well, yes, it does. I mean, the bottom line is if you even go back and look at the 1973 oil embargo, that was only against the United States, but it affected everybody globally because we have a global market in oil. And if you don't have oil, you're going to go somewhere else and try to buy it and you'll pay a higher price for it.
Starting point is 01:31:59 Same thing is true. People who are getting their oil through the straight-of-hormuz, if they can't get it anymore, they're going to come here and they're going to drive the price up. And that's where you're talking about the CEO of Chevron was basically trying to explain that to people in a shorthand way. This is a global market. And he said that, but people don't understand the implications of that. He didn't unpack it for them. And they don't want to think about it. I think one of the take-home lessons is the big is bad.
Starting point is 01:32:27 these top-down pyramidal structures are not just totalitarian, but they're also fragile. You know, they're susceptible to these cascading failures that have absolutely catastrophic repercussions for people. So to the extent that we can decentralize and do things more locally, including things like farming, you know, farming has gotten big, big ag. These farmers are in hock to some big combine. You know, they technically own their land, but they are in so much debt. They have to buy their seeds from Monsanto and they have to get everything else. You know, they're basically serfs on their own land at this point. So they can't do anything with their big combines and tractors and so on.
Starting point is 01:33:06 I've got an old diesel tractor. I can do whatever I want to. If I need to weld something on it, I can do that. You know, I can jury rig it. I can make it work because it's mine and nobody else can exert control over my property. That makes me feel good, you know, and I think it makes everybody feel good. As an adult human being to have control over your life as opposed to being controlled particularly by these faceless anonymous centralized entities, these bureaucracies.
Starting point is 01:33:30 Nobody you can appeal to. You can't even talk to another human being on the phone. You know, it's just, it's just fill out a form and talk to the hand. Talk to the AI. And of course, if Josh Holley gets this way, the way they wrote this bill, the Guard Act, you really need to take a look at that. It's unbelievable what they're trying to push. But Reclaim the Net had a good article about it.
Starting point is 01:33:53 And somebody else did as well. I think maybe it was reason, I'm not sure. But it would include not just the large language models, which get people going. And you have the AI psychosis, which is pretty well known now, people who think they're actually talking to some conscious, sentient thing, right? And it even took in Richard Dawkins. Somebody pointed out, this is a guy who coined the term meme, and now he's become one. Yep. People are laughing at Dawkins for being taken in by this.
Starting point is 01:34:23 He said, convince myself that this wasn't a conscious being, but I fail. I think it is a conscious being. You know, I've noticed this. I've begun to notice it a lot more lately on YouTube. For a distraction, I enjoy watching things like military history, car videos and things that are on YouTube. And I have noticed the propagation of these AI narrated videos. Yeah. And I immediately click off. Now, I'm just one person, but I think if more of us who are appalled by this AI stuff just refuse to watch this stuff, it would go away. Yeah, that's right. You know, you can tell it's not a human. you watch it long enough, there's a tick, there's something.
Starting point is 01:34:57 You can see that they mispronounce a common word, or they'll spell out a letter or something that ought to be just read fluidly. So you can tell, don't go along with it. That's how we end it by not going along with it. That's right. Yeah. And I think it will probably wind up having a situation where people are going to have to basically drop out of a lot of this complex, centralized society.
Starting point is 01:35:20 When you look at the importance of being decentralized, I mean, just take a look at what's going on with Iran. You know, the asymmetry of this war with the United States is really key. And what have they done? They've decentralized even their command structure. So they're not vulnerable to a decapitation strike. They realize, on the other hand, that we were. And so what they do, the very first day, they took out some major radar installations that were there that really kind of hampered a lot of the anti-ballistic missile defense system that was there.
Starting point is 01:35:55 And then that allowed them to do further damage. But they had already set themselves up in decentralized cells. And we've seen this in the past. You know, this is something typically that insurrections and guerrilla organizations would typically do, they would set up individual cells that would operate independent of others. As soon as you start creating a hierarchy, then all somebody has to do is it over from the top. That's what we've seen has happened to our own government. Perfect example of that. They made it hierarchical. They consolidated it and centralized it. And then you got somebody like Trump
Starting point is 01:36:32 or Biden who takes it over and you're done, right? That it's weakness and it's our strength. As you say, you know, the reason that the American colonists managed to defeat the greatest army at the time was to a large extent because they fought this partisan guerrilla kind of warfare. They didn't meet the British generally in Syrired ranks and marched toward the gunfire. You know, they sniped the woods, hit and run type tactics. If the South had done that, they could have attritted the Union and perhaps gained their independence. So the Iranians in our time now have shown that's how you fight. You know, you can use the very technology that is oppressive and tyrannical in the wrong hands. We can turn
Starting point is 01:37:12 it around and use it too. They use these cheap drones, you know, to render a effectively obsolete, these multi-million dollar weapon systems. That's right. And I think that's what's really behind. We've talked about this many times on the show. And Lance has pointed out, he thinks that really this obsession that they have with ghost guns, for example, they are now extending this to wanting you to have to, they've got all kinds of controls that they want to force the 3D printer companies to put inside the devices,
Starting point is 01:37:42 to go through a reference library to make sure that you're not violating somebody's copyright. or this or that you're not printing some kind of a gun part that they don't want you to print. And I think really it's not even about copyright and it's not about guns. I think it's ultimately about drones because that's really going to be the deciding factor in terms of asymmetry, I think, in the future. I agree with you. Oh, by the way, this was sort of just an amusing, an alarming article at the same time that I did a couple of days ago. Have you seen the Kia prototype police vehicle?
Starting point is 01:38:15 No, I haven't seen that. didn't see your article on that either. Tell us about it. Well, among other things, it's got drones built into it. So, you know, they could sick the drones on you. It also has pattern recognition technology. So it's scanning around all everything, you know, identifying you by your face and various other things, you know, to identify all of the near-do-wells that are out there. More easy to round them up. So again, just like it's sort of like another Sylvester Stallone's sci-fi movie, Judge Dredd, remember that one? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I am the law.
Starting point is 01:38:51 That's what they think. That's the way ice works. You know, I am the law. But, you know, in terms of the fact that they're wearing masks out there, that they don't have badges with their names on it. And now they're going to go to the next level. They're going to have these kind of meta glasses that will hide their eyes from you. But at the same time, it'll be looking at you and running through their biometric database to see if they've got anything on you. everybody that they're looking at. It's a perfect metaphor, quite frankly, for what this government has
Starting point is 01:39:22 become. They demand to know everything about you, and you're not allowed to know anything about them. So you're not allowed to even see their eyes, but with their glasses, they can learn everything about you. It's a perfect metaphor. Yeah. It's sort of an elaboration of the mirrored sunglasses thing. It's an intimidation tactic. Yeah. Where they're showing who's boss. They don't want you to see their eyes. And of course, if you wear, you know, if you wear glasses or if you have tinted windows. You know, they can't see inside your car. That's an offense.
Starting point is 01:39:51 Meanwhile, they're driving around in these totally opaque vehicles that you can't see inside of. You're absolutely right. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's an aspect of mental illness, if you ask me that it's not even like they can recognize what they're doing. They, they think that these, this duality, this double standard is somehow normal, like it's okay.
Starting point is 01:40:09 They're not ashamed at all. I feel kind of like a jerk that I'm doing this to you. You know, I see your point. You know, why do I get to do this? You know, just like the cop, you know, the cop who comes roaring out of the side street driving 20 miles over the speed limit to pull you over for going six miles an hour over the speed limit. That's right. That's right. Yeah, I had an interview last week, which was really interesting interview. The guy had worked undercover as an ATF agent. And so he was focusing on getting guns from cartels and from the Gambino crime family and all the rest of this kind of stuff. And yet, when he's talking about what he was doing and how he got one of his.
Starting point is 01:40:46 best informants. He's talking about the fact that because they also have jurisdiction over tobacco, this guy got some tobacco that they haven't paid the taxes on it. And one of the things he pointed out, he said, you know, the people who turn in these other, the guy had some convenience stores, right? And the people who blew the whistle on him, he said, we saw this all the time, were typically his competitors out there, the other businesses that are out there. And that really kind of goes back to all this regulation stuff, right? Usually you've got the businesses that are already established. They are begging the government for regulations to keep other people from getting into the same business. And we see that when Sam Altman with OpenAI went before the congressional committee
Starting point is 01:41:24 and said, this is really dangerous and really important at the same time. So you need to give us money because it is so important. But you also need to make sure that only responsible people like us are going to have access to this. It's just so obvious because we've seen this over and over again. And even this guy who's operating undercover as a government bureaucrat could see that. The regulations are there because the businesses are pushing them. And they want to, the big guys, the established guys, want to set up a partnership with the government. That's the way this stuff always operates. But he was completely not aware of really a lot of the things that immediately would click with me.
Starting point is 01:42:05 We talk about civil asset forfeiture all the time. And that's a real sore spot with me. The idea that the government can come in and confidence. confiscate your car, your cash, your home, your plane, any of that kind of stuff, and charge it with a crime. And, you know, they'd come in and they would say, you know, the U.S. government versus $9,000 cash. They would act as if the inanimate object or whatever had committed a crime. And they would never charge the owners, let alone convict them. But they would just take the stuff.
Starting point is 01:42:34 And then they would go through another level of fiction and say, well, this is not a criminal charge. This is a civil charge. So you don't get any due process. You don't get any presumption of innocence. You don't get a trial. Furthermore, because it is civil, you will have to sue us in court. And so in a lot of cases, you know, it costs about in some of the big cities, they go around confiscating these cards that are worth $1,000 because it's going to cost about $1,000 for you initiate a legal action against them. It's so criminal.
Starting point is 01:43:05 And they do it so often. And again, you know, when you're looking at somebody who's operating. in the world of prohibition. I thought it was really funny and actually kind of amusing to see how blind this guy was to what was actually happening with the prohibition stuff.
Starting point is 01:43:20 But he's got an interesting story where he went in, he ran a whole bunch of different businesses as part of these stings. And it looks like, he wrote a book about that, and it looks like it's going to be picked up and made into a series for TV.
Starting point is 01:43:34 Each season will be another one of these businesses that he ran because he did it for a couple of decades. That's interesting. You know, in many ways, alcohol was a legitimate businessman. Yeah, exactly. I mean, selling alcohol and, you know, running prostitution. I mean, I understand these are vices and, you know, some people regard them as immoral, but at the end of the day, he was providing things that people freely wanted to buy. With regard to the civil asset forfeiture stuff, my understanding
Starting point is 01:43:55 is that they can simply declare any amount of money that you have, excessive. That's the term that they use. That's right. A subjective term. So it could be $20 or it could be $10,000. And then as you say, they can just take it. And it's on you to disprove that it wasn't, um, that it wasn't, um, acquired as the result of some illicit activity. Yeah, prove you're innocent. Prove that you're innocent. That's exactly it. And that's what he was saying.
Starting point is 01:44:18 He said, this guy, they turned as an informant, as somebody that was a competitor that blew the whistle on him, said something about the way that he had gotten his tobacco to avoid paying taxes. And he said, we weren't really worried about that. He just had a great car. He had a really nice Cadillac, and we wanted that Cadillac. Because we get to keep it and use it for our own personal use if we were to confiscate it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:37 It's incredible to me that people just put up with this, but I suppose what else can you do? Yeah. You know, our society has been beaten down, I think, into a state of passivity by this. It goes back a long, long way. But, you know, I can remember back in the 80s, you probably can as well,
Starting point is 01:44:52 when they began to do these random blanket, dragnet probable cause-free sobriety checks. Oh, yeah, I hated this. Whereas previously, you know, the idea was, look, you have to actually have given some reason to suspect that a person is impaired by alcohol. You know, the cop would have to say, well, I saw him weaving, you know, something like that. Now you just happen to be out driving on a given road, and everybody who's on that road has to stop,
Starting point is 01:45:19 is subjected to an interrogation by a cop, show their papers, and prove to the satisfaction of this cop that they have not been drinking. And it was really bad in Texas. They had a situation where they did forced blood draws. Oh, yeah. And then they would get physical of people, you know, and arrest you and still do the forced blood draw. I mean, it's just criminally insane. And yet you've got the people like Mike Johnson. It's like, well, we can't bother with search warrants and all that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 01:45:45 And we can't hamper our law enforcement. And it's like, well, that's the whole purpose of the bill of rights is to hamper the government. Absolutely. To make it constrained, right? It's a subtle, emotional, and for some people, very appealing argument. Well, you know, we're going to get more criminals. We'll catch all these bad guys. Not realizing what they're doing is surrender.
Starting point is 01:46:07 everything to these authorities, which they, I guess, implicitly assume, are always benevolent, would never abuse their power. You know, and if you follow that logical daisy chain, well, you know, why not just say a cop whenever he wants to walk in your house for any reason to see if anything's going on that's illegal? Why shouldn't we, you know, have to open our doors to any cop who just fucking our house? Yeah, that's right. Why shouldn't we have cameras in every room in our house, including the bathroom?
Starting point is 01:46:32 That's right. You know, you might catch some bad guys. Yeah. You might catch some illegal activity. That's right. You know, we start to look at it that way. You begin to understand why this stuff is so pernicious, but it's easy for a lot of people. You know, that old saying about how hard cases make bad law.
Starting point is 01:46:45 Nobody likes actual criminals. Everybody gets appalled when they hear a story about some actually drunk driver who blows to a red light at 100 miles an hour and kills a family. You know, it's difficult to say we shouldn't do something about that. But what ends up happening is that everybody gets treated presumptively as if they were that person, even though they're not that person. And I think a good example of this is what the Trump administration is doing down in Venezuela. It really sent me over the edge when I saw them just killing people on site without ever determining if they've even got drugs, right? And Rand Paul has pointed out that 25% of the cases that they stop, that they look like they are suspicious and they might be carrying drugs. 25% of those cases, they're not carrying drugs.
Starting point is 01:47:28 But they never even bother to look at this. They still to this day have not. produced any evidence of the people that they killed had even had drugs. And they've killed about 180 people. Think about that kind of government. They can do that to you as well. And that's why, you know, the Constitution doesn't talk about citizens having rights. It talks about people having rights. Because if you're going to do that to somebody because they're here illegally, or doing to somebody because they're selling something that you have declared is illegal, and you made that declaration illegally in violation of the Constitution, by the way,
Starting point is 01:48:04 If you're going to allow the government to do that, then, of course, the government is going to feel free to do whatever they wish and the examples that you pointed out. Just coming at your house whenever they feel like it. Or if they like your house, maybe they'll go back and they will use artificial intelligence to audit your life and find something that you did and then charge you with a crime to take your house. Maybe they'll do that. It's a measure of the moral deadness, I think, of our culture. Not everybody because there are a lot of people who are appalled by it. But in one of those incidents, they had disabled the boat or shot the boat. The guys were in the water, clearly helpless at that point.
Starting point is 01:48:36 Yeah, shipwrecked. And they just executed them. You know, I mean, so, you know, that was considered a war crime when it was done by Lieutenant Callie in Vietnam, the Melye massacre. Yeah. You know, innocent people that were, you know, just round it up and shot. That's essentially what the federal government did. And you had Heggzeth and Trump gloating and smacking their lips about how, how fabulous it was
Starting point is 01:48:56 that this was being done. Yeah. I just, I'm so done with these guys. I mean, I was done with them throughout all of 2020. is like, I'm not making any excuses for this guy. And you point that out when you're talking about Trump and his third term. Yes, as he said. And all three of his terms, he thinks he's there.
Starting point is 01:49:14 But you point out the fact that basically, and I've said this from the very beginning as well. And I said it, you know, when I got fired at Info Wars, I was talking about this. I said, he's the one who created the 100% vote by mail election with his lockdown, which is phony. And we all know it was phony. and he's the one who created that. He added a whole new level of corruption to the RA corrupt elections that are out there. It's kind of interesting,
Starting point is 01:49:39 and I'm sure you're getting some schadenfreude out of Trump turning on Alex Jones now. Yeah. Yeah, well, it's just a matter of time. I suspect that's more WWE-type show for our benefit as well. Yeah. Well, I think that's the one time, this is going to be the one time that Alex doesn't flip back.
Starting point is 01:49:58 I mean, Alex has been for Trump against Trump, against Trump, for Trump against Trump, you know, he can't make of his mind, he gets flip-flopping. And so he'd come out and, and I know privately, he absolutely hated the guy a long time ago. You know, he'd swear up one side and down the other about Trump. And I can't believe he's doing this to us. And he knew that he was being put in an untenable position of having to excuse this stuff and having to make up nonsense about it being 4D chess and all the rest of stuff. But, you know, so he'd jump off the bandwagon. And then he'd get a lot of pushback from people. and then he would jump back on it again, right? Do that over and over again.
Starting point is 01:50:32 This time, there isn't any jumping back because Trump is jumping on him this time. Looks that way. Yeah, it is interesting to see what has happened with it. You know, I don't know if you know about this. This is not off of your site, but I just thought this is interesting. BMW is revisiting the Z8 and the Z4M from one of its boldest eras, they say. And they're talking about the restoration of V8s.
Starting point is 01:50:58 And, of course, we're seeing that now in the luxury cars. And you said this a long time ago. You said, what is it that's going to be able to distinguish, you know, Porsches from or Lamborghinis or Ferraris or from these other cars? If they lose their V8s, their V-12s and all the rest of the stuff, the special engines that they had, you know, they've spent a lot of time inventing these things. Their entire value-added thing is built around these special engines or special suspensions and things like that.
Starting point is 01:51:27 that are going to disappear. And so do you see this as coming back as a niche product? Because certainly it's going to be anything that you or I could afford to buy. Yeah, absolutely. I do see it coming back. It is coming back. And as you say, as a niche product, and that's the, you know, that's good, but it's also tragic. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:45 These were at one time accessible, available to, you know, to people who were just ordinary people. I mean, even a Corvette, for example. A Corvette, as recently as the 80s was something that was within the range. of, you know, even a blue collar person. You know, you could afford a Camaro. You could save up and, you know, a few years after that, you could probably get into a Corvette. Forget about it now.
Starting point is 01:52:08 You know, it's a $60,000 car to start. And then you got the insurance and everything else on top of it. So, yeah, these things are available, but they're only going to be available to the relative few, the extremely affluent few who can afford to indulge. They just dropped off for me a new Land Rover defender that has the supercharged. V8. Wonderful vehicle. You know, if you've got $110,000.
Starting point is 01:52:32 Well, let me take my wallet here. Yeah. Nope. Whereas, you know, my old muscle car, my 76 Trans Am, when it was new, it wasn't cheap, but it also wasn't exotically priced. So, you know, they were all over the place. You remember in those eras back in the day. It was common for ordinary people to be driving a car with a V8. I've got an article coming out tomorrow that talks about, you know, the new status symbol of choice over at Lexus, which is a $140,000 minivan with a 2.4 liter hybrid
Starting point is 01:53:03 turbo augmented drive frame. You know, that was what you used to get. For a lot less than that, you used to be able to, wonderful V8s in the Lexus flagship sedan, the Mercedes flagship sedan, BMW flagship sedan, all of them now, well, Alexis is being retired after this year,
Starting point is 01:53:19 but those cars, they come with little six-cylinder engines now. And they're not even that big. I, you know, if you look at how long, a Mercedes S class, which was, What's an impressive car, really impressive car, big, hulking, solid car. It's smaller than a 75 Chrysler Cordova. And the Cordova came with a V8. But does it have fine Corinthian leather? If only it did. You know, I'd far rather have a 75 Cordova than the new Mercedes S class.
Starting point is 01:53:46 The Cordova's not data mining me. It doesn't have Wayne Kee insists. You know, it doesn't monitor my eye movements. And there's something to be said for plush, three across seats with fine Corinthian leather. That's right. You know, one of the things that just made me so sad, and it was maybe, let's see, when was it? Was it, I think it was 2017 before my show started. We went back to take care of some family business that was back in Florida. And when I was growing up, my family used to go to basically two places for vacation. They'd go to Daytona Beach or they'd come here to Gatlinburg. And I really loved Daytona Beach in those days. It was so, much fun. I mean, it'd get a little, the only time I rode a motorcycle and it had a little governor on it so it wouldn't go that fast, but you could go as fast as it was allowed on the beach of Daytona. They won't allow anything. Not even a little moped like that is not allowed on the beach anymore. I mean, they used to race cars on the Daytona Bay. That's how the Daytona 500 started. You know, they would have one leg of it was along the packed sand on the seashore. The other leg was coming back on the paved road.
Starting point is 01:54:55 And then it would get really complicated on the two curves that connect to the two because the sand there was really soft. And so if you go back and you look at the races of that, that's usually where people lost it. But, you know, I just remember cruising up and down and people cruising up and down the beach with all that kind of stuff. And we went back about a decade ago. And I just couldn't believe it. I mean, they still have the boardwalk that's there. They still have the big pier and all that kind of stuff. But nobody was allowed on the beach, essentially.
Starting point is 01:55:24 You couldn't put any cars out there. And, of course, nobody was walking through it because it's a long stretch. And so it was just lifeless. And it's like, man, you know, they're just destroying everything that's alive in our society. It just made me so sad to see that. Yeah, I actually did a little clip that we use in the show because of that. And I showed kind of before and after. I went back on YouTube and I found some clips of people in the 70s and, you know, having
Starting point is 01:55:54 a great time on the beach with their cars and everything and, you know, and then today how sterile and shut down everything is. And it's like, man, this is like, you know, the 15-minute city locked down already. I know. You know, you reminded me when we started the conversation about how D.C. looks like a gigantic mausoleum with all these tombs and bleak architecture. I remember reading a long time ago. I can't remember the author's name. You may be familiar with this book. It's called The Architecture of Doom. Have you heard of that book? No, no. And it was about that. National Socialist period. And, you know, and that Bauhaus just sort of severe, ugly, everything big but ugly, grandiose ugliness. Kind of like brutalism in architecture.
Starting point is 01:56:34 Brutalism, yeah, where they use the raw materials. The university that I went to for engineering University of South Florida was done in the 60s, and it had that brutalist architecture. I mean, it was just barren and intimidating, really, if you look at it. And that's what you see now everywhere. Yeah. You know, these hot malls all have that same fake facade. you know, with the little fake peaked roofs and everything. Just ugliness and homogeneity and ugliness everywhere. There's just draining the color and the vitality out of everything. And we really ought not to let them if we can.
Starting point is 01:57:08 That's right. Yeah, it was such a kind of a culture shock in a sense. I met Karen at the University of Tampa. We were both going there. And it was based on a hotel building that had been built by this railroad magnet named Plant. and he decorated this thing, and it was a mixture of Victorian architecture and Islamic architecture. So they have kind of this Victorian hotel, and they built it with a thing that's still standing,
Starting point is 01:57:35 and it truly is an interesting building architecturally. They used railroad ties as kind of the main construction framework that was there for it. But they had all these minarets and all this other kind of stuff, and actually I was in a band group, and you know, they had, they called a fraternity, but it wasn't a fraternity in the sense that you had a house and everybody lived together. I mean, it was a fraternity in the sense that we'd go around and pick up the supplies and everything before and after the games and things like that. So we'd actually get in it to work, but we had a place where we could meet, and it had access
Starting point is 01:58:09 to one of these minarets, and we would climb way up the top of this minaret, and it had, it's just filled with broken steps. You had to watch out where you walk in and all kinds of dead pigeons and anything. But when you got up there, it was a great view. But the place was so meticulous in its detail. And it had all this Victorian detail in it everywhere. And then I go from there, the University of South Florida, and it's all this brutalist antiseptic architecture. It's like, wow, you know, just makes you feel different, you know, when you're in these two different spaces. Completely. Well, look at pictures of car dealership lots in the 70s and even in the 80s, and look at them now. And there's a reason why practically every car you see on the road is white,
Starting point is 01:58:49 silver or gray or some permutation of that. They charge extra for, you know, for interesting colors and not just a little bit. If you want, it's red in a lot of cases. That's like an $800 option. Now you know why most people are driving around a car that looks like a refrigerator. That's right. 50 shades of gray. And it's kind of a sadomasochistic automobile industry that is now evolved and all this stuff. It is sad to see it. But who knows? Maybe people, get fed up with this stuff and maybe the pendulum will swing back the other way. First, we have to educate people. We have to let people know how important it is to have freedom and value those things that they're actively destroying. That's the key thing. So I really appreciate what you do
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