The David Knight Show - Fri Episode #2344: 9/11 & Covid: Two Official Stories That Still Don’t Add Up

Episode Date: September 4, 2026

── Interview 1: Richard Gage — RichardGage911.org / Turning the Tide Conference ──────────────────────────────────────────[00:07:04]Building 7 Came Down at Freefall in 7 Seconds — No Steel Frame High-Rise Has Ever Collapsed Due to Fire47 stories, 100 feet from the North Tower; fires few, scattered, burned out; not one of 82 columns gave any resistance during the fall.────────────────────────────────────────[00:35:30]FEMA Found Never-Before-Observed Eutectic Reactions Melting Steel — Fire Cannot Do This; Thermite CanSteel from Building 7 turned to Swiss cheese; rapid oxidation and sulfidation at over 3,000 degrees; FEMA included it and it was suppressed.────────────────────────────────────────[00:09:07]"Turning the Tide" — 40 Speakers; New York September 10-13; Live Streamed on RedactedRoger Waters, architects, structural engineers, and the University of Alaska Fairbanks team; largest 9/11 Truth conference ever; next false flag: a nuclear bomb in LA blamed on Iran. ── Interview 2: Pfizer's Former Chief Toxicologist ──────────────────────────────────────────[01:37:43]Spike Protein Still Present in Tissues Three Years Later — mRNA Was Modified to Remain Active Much LongerTold it would stay in the muscle and disappear within days; it spread systemically; the modification making RNA more durable was the mechanism of prolonged damage.────────────────────────────────────────[01:38:07]We Are Living Under a Sword of Damocles — Especially for Constantly Boosted People; It Is Not OverMyocarditis became a household word; children require ECGs before sports; people are accepting this as normal; it is not normal and will not go away.────────────────────────────────────────[01:40:18]Doctors Who Spoke Out Had Their Careers Destroyed — After Retirement People Dared to SpeakIf you can't publish and risk jail, you stay silent; people no longer dependent on the system spoke up; the few who did were purged in Europe and the US.────────────────────────────────────────[01:41:42]Trump's First Day: Partner With Oracle to Design Custom mRNA Using AI — Doubling Down, Not Pulling BackKnight: where's the off switch? For many it hasn't turned off; Trump only sees business opportunities; the acceleration is deliberate.────────────────────────────────────────[01:43:16]Do Not Vaccinate Children Before Age Three — Period of Greatest Brain Development and SensitivityThis one change would reduce the harm enormously; the pro-vaxxers will not change their minds; wake up everyone else: do not get boosted again.────────────────────────────────────────[01:47:42]Fauci Is the Scapegoat — The Real Culprit Is an Institutional Mafia; Francis Collins Never Gets ScrutinizedBiden gave Fauci a pardon; Trump gave him a commendation; responsible from 2014 when gain of function funding began; safe target so the bigger network is never discussed. ──────────────────────────────────────── Money should have intrinsic value AND transactional privacy: Go to https://davidknight.gold/ for great deals on physical gold/silver For 10% off Gerald Celente's prescient Trends Journal, go to https://trendsjournal.com/ and enter the code “KNIGHT” For high quality made in America products go to HomeSteadProducts.shop and use promo code “Knight” for 10% off your purchases Find out more about the show and where you can watch it at TheDavidKnightShow.com If you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-show Or you can send a donation throughMail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @[e-mail] App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.

of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. It's the David Knight Show. As the clock strikes 13, it's Friday the 4th of September, year of our Lord, 2006. Yes, we are one week away from the 25th anniversary of the Reichstag fire for the global surveillance police state. Yeah, certainly in America, but this is something that is not limited just to America. This has changed everything around the world. And so we're going to begin the program today with an interview with Richard Gage, who is with Richard Gage 9-1-1.org. He's putting together a massive event with presentations called Turning the Tide. That's going to be September 10th through the 13th next week. And of course, you'll also be able to find that online as well if you can't attend in person in New York.

So we're going to talk about that. And we're also going to talk about the other shoe to drop from that same event, and that is the pandemic. And we're going to be talking to Pfizer's former chief toxicologist who's trying to pull back the curtain to educate people. We need to understand folks that on both of these issues, as well as many others, but especially these issues, we have to awaken people with information about what happened and what is still happening, or we have no chance of stopping it and turning it back. That is the mission of both of these men. Stay with us. We'll be right back with those interviews. If you look at the film of the North Tower collapsing,

you can see all the explosions in the controlled demolition of that building happening in front of your very eyes. That was the BBC in real time on television, telling you that the Building 7 had already fallen when it hadn't fallen yet. If it was true, that two planes brought down three buildings in a completely unprecedented way, then that should have caused us to rethink the way we build these buildings. It didn't. If 100,000 tons of structural steel is found that far outside of the perimeter,

what's there to crush the building? Three different peer-reviewed scientific studies have concluded there was informed trading before 9-11. We have a clear right and an obligation to search for anti-examination. to the fundamental question about the planning of 9-11, its execution, the physical effects, the structural consequences when the planes hit the World Trade Center. There was an explosion in the basement prior to the tower being hit by a plane. I felt this, I call it an incredible force of wind, of something coming at you. The South Tower now is starting to implode the fireball,

The fireball is following us, so we're running away from a fireball. That building had no reason to come down. There's no history of a high-rise fire in a fireproof, resulting in failure of the building. And on the side of the U-Haul truck had a mural, had the Twin Towers on the side, and a plane going into the Twin Towers. The further down into that pile I got, the more I could make it. out what looked like from a science fiction movie Molten Lava. Why was crucial evidence of melted structural steel suppressed and not even considered

or worse yet allowed to be carted off and destroyed? The 9-11 Commission did not look into at all how the towers came down. There were a number of hijack exercises prior to 9-11 that mirrored the events. In my work with the anthrax letters, they would cite... experts or, you know, administration official, and they would never give you the name. When they don't give you the name, you know they're giving you the narrative. How come for airplanes, four-commercial airplanes could be hijacked in a period of 90-something minutes, and nothing happened.

Well, please welcome San Francisco Bay Area architect Richard Gage, AIA member of the American Institute of Architects, founder and former CEO of Architects and Engineers for 9,000. 11 Truth, he now leads the charge for New World Trade Center investigation, along with his courageous wife, Gail, at Richard Gage, 911.org. Mr. Gage became interested in researching the destruction of the World Trade Center high rises after hearing the startling conclusions of reluctant 9-11 researcher David Ray Griffin on the radio in 2006, which launched his own unyielding quest for the truth about 9-1-1. The organization he founded, A.E. 911 Truth, now 911. numbers more than 3,600 architects and engineers demanding a new investigation into the explosive

destruction of all three World Trade Center high-rise buildings on 9-11. As an architect, he has worked on most types of building construction, including numerous fireproofed steel-framed buildings. Most recently, he worked on the construction documents for a $400 million mixed-use urban project with 1.2 million square feet of retail, parking structure, mid-rise office space, all together about 1,200 tons of steel framing. Well, Richard, let's hope that that doesn't just come collapsing down in its own footprint. Yeah, really.

Well, we look at this. I mean, how do we gauge this, no pun intended, when you've got no changes to the building codes and no changes to the way they fight fires? That's some of the people I've talked to about. That is a guy, Tony Rook, in the UK, and that was one of his big issues. It's like, why haven't we had to change? They're still going up into high rises and fighting fires. The guy who wrote the textbook on this subject,

Raulangulo, the Seattle Fire Captain, he says, we haven't changed anything. We're not worried about these buildings coming down on us at Free Fall. And this, the National Institute of Standards and Technology, who investigated these buildings, made recommendations to the International Building Code, but they haven't been followed for the structural revisions. So you can still have, theoretically,

any of these buildings, and they're similarly built, right? A hundred of them or more throughout the United States that could come down on them. Well, of course, there's a picture that you put up of the trade centers as they were going up. In terms of steel skyscraper is probably one of the most sturdy ones up there. And, of course, Donald Trump said that on day one, but of course, he doesn't talk about that anymore.

But, you know, the fact that it had steel girders all around the perimeter that were there. It's truly amazing. And we have seen fire after fire both before and after. And we've had fires that have burned and steel skyscrapers for many days. And they never come collapsing down in free fall. What you might have is a burned out structure of the steel is still there. And it's maybe leaning over to the side a little bit. But they don't just fall down all at once, especially not a building that wasn't even hit by the plane. That's the

most amazing thing, I guess. And you know, it took you a few years before you started investigating this as an architect. I as well did not really think about it because I, was really more focused in what they were trying to bring in with Homeland Security. I had actually not seen these things fall until probably about five or six years later because when it was all happening, we didn't have television. We were out in the middle of the woods and we had relatives who were calling us because I had relatives who were in New York. I actually had a relative who was in the building. And I'm listening to this stuff and they said, oh, one of them fell down. I'm thinking, wow, how much Manhattan did that take out if it fell down on one side? But it was,

years before I saw the free fall collapse. So it's kind of interesting. Here we are 25 years later. What's going to change this? You've got a convention that is coming up, don't you? Call Turning the Tide? Tell us a little bit about that. Boy, do we. This is huge. David, we've got, let me share my screen with you. We've got 40 speakers that we're bringing to New York. This is the largest 9-11 Truth conference ever assembled, and this on the 25th anniversary of 9-11. So we have an extraordinary venue, but all of these

people that we heard about from the developer of the World Trade Center, Larry Silverstein, just now. We've got him being quite concerned about some of the characters that

we've brought together, Pink Floyd iconic rock star, Roger Waters, for instance, who's been working with Matt Campbell to get justice for his brothers Jeff's murder in the North Tower on 9-11. And in the UK, they have an inquest. They can go after in order to make sure that we get to the bottom of the true story of how these families were blown to small pieces. I mean, 6,000 pieces small enough to fit into a test tube. And they couldn't find you know, 300

bodies altogether. Wow. So we've got James Lee, who went deep into the Charlie Kirk assassination. We've got Brett Weinstein, a deep thinker now with the

Dark Horse podcast, calling all kinds of questions about 9-11, as is Chris Martinson from Peak Prosperity. He analyzes the evidence as well and goes into it deeply. Warkowski of the Pentagon.

She is a whistleblower about the intelligence failures in the Pentagon, and not just failures, but complicity. James Corbett of the Corbett Report will be doing... He's excellent, yeah. Isn't he amazing? Yeah, I really like Jim's work, yeah. Oh, and Jimmy Dorr, who's been talking about 9-11 for years now and had us on the show, as did Clayton Morris,

of redacted, but Jimmy, be there in person highlighting a Saturday night. Pretty exciting. And we've got Dennis Kucinich also, a former congressman. He, he, back in, what was it? Well, last year, Dennis Kucinich brought Dana Rorabacher and Kurt Weldon all together to speak at our conference in Washington, D.C. for the 9-11 Truth. that and that's where this turning the tide got started is in Washington, D.C. He gave a rousing speech. He's coming back to do that again, and he's trying to bring back Senator Ron Johnson with him,

who is the chair of the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, who effectively inspired us to put all our evidence together to bring it to him so that he could have hearings in the Senate like he's doing with COVID. So we're very excited about that, and we put together a thousand pages of that report, and we'll be presenting it at the conference as well, for my part, of course, on the explosive destruction of all three of these World Trade Center skyscrapers that we'll be looking at today. But that's just a lot to go over here. I mean, we've got Merrill Nass, exposing anthrax and COVID, Phil Turney, the U.S. Liberty, a false. flag event.

He'll be Sunday's false flag day, September 13th. So we've got Charlie Kirk, Oklahoma bombing, the USS Liberty, Epstein, lots of false flags to go over. Derek Brose will be there

talking about specifically the Oklahoma City bombing. And then we've got also Mary Holland of the Children's Health defense. She, of course, that's Bobby Kennedy's organization, and she's been a 9-11

truth through for a long time, which means, of course, well, it doesn't mean, but Bobby's on top of this, too, but it's not something he could talk about. His hands are pretty well tied in the position he's in the Trump administration. But we have first responders, Chris Joya, Eric lawyer, and Captain Richard Pattern, of the FDNY. We have Patrick Dillon, first responder. These guys saw molten iron deep in the pile Patrick Dillon did.

Captain Patterson said, construction worker walked by him, saying that building is coming down around 5 o'clock. He's going to tell that story. Patrick Dillon was in Building 7, and he had three battalion chiefs come in and kick all the first responders who were trying to recover in the lobby of Building 7,

said, They're going to pull the building. You had everybody out now. And they were trailed by two guys with guns, I mean, big guns. Wow. So this is new information to a lot of people. It'll be emceived by the maker of Loose Change, one of them, this Jason Burmiss and I'm out of a setty.

Willie Rodriguez, the last man out, who saved lives in the towers. and he just dove out of the tower underneath a fire truck and all the debris came down on top of the fire truck. He would have been killed if he weren't there. He's a hero. And we've got researchers, Dr. Pierce Robinson and Alan Merrill and the intelligence failures along with Mick Harrison, the flight, impossible flights that were led to believe

were done by hijackers. are not even, and probably weren't on the planes themselves. Barbara Honaker from the Lawyers Committee for 9-11 Inquiry will be telling us about their important work. Niels Herod is flying from Denmark to tell us about the nanothermite found in the World Trade Center dust responsible for bringing these buildings down. Nanothermite. There's eight international scientists that he assembled together, and this peer-reviewed paper has never been challenged. So he'll be talking about that. And Jonathan Cole, Cole, who's made the movie about false flag operations.

It's False Flag Day. 9-11 is the mother of all false flag operations. Oh, yeah. So this film is declaring, hey, we should call this False Flag Day. Go ahead, Dave. That's right, yeah. When I look at 9-0, you're talking about being a false flag. I think of it as the Reichstag fire that kicked off the 21st century police surveillance state here in America.

And it really is interesting. You talk about how you got Meryl is going to be talking about the anthrax attacks. And of course, you know, when you look at it, it really worked hand in glove, didn't it, with the other shoe to drop 20 years later. We had dark winter two months before you had 9-11. One week later, you got an anthrax attack that's sent to the offices of a couple of senators who are very reluctant to do Homeland Security bill. And then two months later, they send out.

the model legislation that everybody used in 2020. It's just amazing. And then they practiced this pandemic lockdown waiting for an experimental vaccine. They practiced that for 20 years. It's amazing how these people work this thing out on such a long term. It truly is the mother of all false flags, isn't it? Yeah. And we've had another mother of all false flags since then, haven't we, with COVID, the false disease engineered and patented, along with. And the false solution engineered and patented well before the disease ever came out. And I see that as just the other shooter drop from this same event here. That's the way I see it.

You know, the two of them are so tied together at the very beginning, even a couple of weeks before that. It truly is amazing how these things are all pulled together. The one thing that I think is funny, Richard, is the fact that they have, usually they pick a term to describe their enemies that is advantageous to them, but they wound up calling us truthers, which I guess would make them liars, right? Yeah, exactly. They call us conspiracy theorists, but we're citing evidence, most of us, and we're not theorizing much, but we have a whole lot of evidence to back up everything

that we are theorizing, and we're going to show your audience that today. But first, I wanted to share this venue. This is a historic venue, El Museo del Barron. Teatro. An extraordinary theater built in the 40s. We're there. We're going to try to fill every seat, David. And is that in New York City? That's in New York City, right?

Right on Central Park, on Fifth Avenue, you bet. A gorgeous venue. And we have, we start Thursday with all of these speakers that we've named so far. Friday, we've named most of these. John Kirby, by the way, will be presenting the premiere of his name. film, the responders. And these are responders who are not supporting the official narrative. They are witnesses of explosions and fireballs and things that missed the National Institute of Standards and Technology, who was tasked by Congress to explain these collapses to the American people.

They don't talk about explosions. They say there are no first responders talking about explosions. Well, we have 156 of them that we talk about in our presentations. orally recorded. I mean, within a month after 9-11, but it's just been buried. And then Sunday, overcoming the deep state. Saturday night is our big night

with Jimmy Dorr and Willie Rodriguez and others. And this is the responders' movie that is going to be premiered that we're so excited about. So all four days, 150 bucks. That's great.

Or single days you can get, too. And we have, if you want to sit up front and go to the hand of the lines and have brunch, a classy brunch with Roger Waters of Pink Floyd, Brett Weinstein, Jimmy Dorr, and all the rest of the speakers, a donation to support the conference, because it's mostly supported by donations. The tickets don't cover all the price, all the costs. So that's $911 for those of you. Where'd you come up with that price? I can't imagine. It works. Yeah, it does.

It works. We sold about 15 tickets at that price, and there's more left. That's great. We encourage people to... Well, I really do appreciate you doing this. And, of course, you've been on this for so many years. I just talked about a story the other day, the fact that you had some people saying, well, it's about time we get the chic, Khalid, or whatever the Patsy is that they got.

They've had and get him on out for 25 years. And he hasn't had a truck. And when I looked at that, I said, well, you know, maybe there's a reason they haven't had a trial. Maybe they don't want to have discovery. Maybe they don't want to really talk about this stuff. That's right. And plus, his testimony is no good anyway because he was tortured. What, 100 times or something?

That's right. Yeah. Yeah, we've started massive wars based on that same approach. Haven't we that based on life? Well, 9-11 is a war trigger, as Professor Graham McQueen calls it. And these are designed to achieve an outcome, which is generally war, which affects regime change and the stealing of resources in countries like Afghanistan, opium, and Iraq, oil. So, you know, here we go again. What are we really doing in Iran?

We're affecting regime change for resources. So it never ends, David. Well, I think we had regime change here in America. When we created Homeland Security, we got TSA and all the rest of this stuff, the entire world change. I don't fly anymore because of what is happening. I just, sorry, it's like there's no place that I want to go badly enough that I will go through that stuff. It just makes me too angry. But I just can't believe what they've wound up doing to our country.

And all of this stuff is so calculated, so planned in advance. And you can see it. You know, we know about these germ games on a regular basis. And, you know, one of the people that you had up there on your chart on the first page, I think it was the second one in on the second line, looked like Anthony Fauci. I couldn't see the person's name. I was like, is Fauci going to be coming? I mean, he could speak on it because it is connected.

All these things are connected, aren't they? You know, we should do a timeline junkie did that. Great video about Larry Silverstein. He should do one on Fauci. I think that would be funny. But no, this is Bob McElvain. You're looking at here. He's the father of Bobby who was murdered also in the North Tower.

And he's been crying out for justice for 25 years now. And it just doesn't get any easier for him or for any of the family members, of course. I'm so sorry to hear that. He's harder and harder. But he is, yeah, he has been a stalwart in his outspoken support for the 9-11 Truth movements, particularly architect and engineers for 9-11 Truth, those of us who were talking about what really happened at these towers. Is there going to be any discussion about the Pentagon or are you in Flight 93?

Are you going to be focused primarily on what happened in New York? Primarily on the towers and the intelligence failures and impossible flights and the control of these aircraft and the hijackers. But all of us have very serious questions, of course. about flight 93 and what brought it down and where it actually landed, for instance, who was on the plane, and then the Pentagon, of course, which we have disagreements in the 9-11 Truth Movement

about what did or didn't hit the Pentagon, but we all agree nothing should have hit the most highly defended building in the world, particularly this airliner, civilian aircraft, doing an 8,000 feet per minute drop in a 270-degree corkscrew maneuver more associated with a fighter jet. And then where does it land, David? Does it come down right on top of Donald Rumsfeld? That's easy target, right?

The big, from the sky. Oh, there's the Pentagon. I'm going right at it. No. It does this crazy corkscrew and lands right in the area of the investigators from the Department of the Army who were investigating the $2.3 trillion dollars that Donald Rumsfeld had just announced the night before was missing from the Pentagon budget. You know, it's interesting, and I've got an anecdote I'll tell you about this, and I kicked myself for not having

recorded it, but I wanted to hear what the woman said, and I figured if I pulled out my phone, she would stop talking. We went down to a little vacation area that's just south of Austin, my wife and I did. It was a tourist shop, and she's looking at all little knick-knacks and everything. I'm saying there were the only three people in the store, the woman who ran the store and the two of us, and she starts telling me about her life story, how she was former military. She got out after her husband retired, and she said, you know, I was right there.

I got out a couple of months before 9-11, but I was working in that office. I said, oh, really? And she said, yeah, it's amazing. She said, you wouldn't believe how much stuff we found on people. She said, we had politicians and military people who were just taking retirement left and right rather than going through some kind of a criminal process.

And she said, and I was lucky to get out there. I said, where do you get your name? news. What are your favorite news outlets? I mean, she was absolutely clueless and she was right there. And she was talking about all the corruption that they were discovering. And then the fact that she got out just in time, but she was absolutely clueless. She believed the entire official narrative, even though she was right there. Well, this is psychological trauma, trauma-based mind control that we were all put in her, shock and awe. where these towers were hit, we were under attack.

We'd never been under attack before. And I'm on the West Coast, right? We're talking about New Yorkers. Incredible. And we want answers. And we accept those answers when they come right away. You know, like in 48 hours, every one of the 19 hijackers listed in the grid of terror there that they showed us. But many of them turned out to be a lot of.

alive later on and some of them did. It is, there's no evidence that they were on the planes. There's no evidence that they were in the airports, actually. Lots of problems with the official narrative. Absolutely. In fact, beginning with Building 7, I want to make sure we at least show people, you know, what happened to this building. Shall we do that?

Yeah, go ahead. You got it. Okay. Take control. Give everybody your short, pitch here. We got a good amount of time, but yeah, I'm sure at this point, many of my listeners have heard me cover this stuff, but it's never enough to just say it once or twice. We need to hammer this home because most people still have not gotten the message. So yeah,

go ahead and show us. And how many of our wonderful listeners out there on the David Knight Show have taken the time to send this material to people that aren't aware of it? Those are the people we need to reach. So share every one of the David Knight podcasts with everybody you know, guys. He is putting the information out here, not just for your entertainment, right?

This is for the waking up of America. We're trying to save our country here. That's right. And it may be too late. And this is foundational. I mean, this is a thing I look at it. I see not just the towers falling. I see the Constitution falling. I see our

government, our way of life being taken down. people as well. Oh, yeah. And we've got to do something. So I'm doing what I can do. These are buildings. I'm an architect. So this is something that I can do.

We have a 47-story skyscraper that came down in the afternoon of 9-11. Most architects and engineers know nothing about it, which is why I'm still talking about it, 20 years later. This building was 47 stories 100 feet away from the North Tower. and here it is standing pretty fine after the towers came down that morning. It did have some damage, but NIST, the National Institute of Standards of Technology, who was tasked by Congress to explain these. They said that wasn't a factor in the building's collapse.

But let's look at that collapse and see what we can learn. 520 in the afternoon. The upper part, the East Penhouse comes down in an isolated event, and then six seconds later, the entire building does this. uniformly, symmetrically, straight down into its own footprint at free fall acceleration. Wow. Now, that's a problem. Most people who are in fifth grade or above realize that this did not come down to the cause that we are told.

What are we told? What we found was an uncontrolled building fires caused an extraordinary event. The collapse of World Trade Center 7 was primarily. primarily due to fire. Fires? Well, we ought to look at those fires then, right? They are few. They are scattered throughout the building. They're relatively small, and they are burned out on the area of interest by NIST, more than an hour before the building came down on floor 12, where their initiation of collapse, which is a pretty elaborate, unrealistic, and provably wrong theory is based on

on that 12th floor. But we've never lost a steel frame fire protected structure ever in history due to fires. I mean, with much larger,

longer-lasting and hotter fires in these buildings not before 9-11 nor after 9-11 where we have these much hotter fires fully engulfing

these buildings. That's right. They don't come down. It just doesn't happen. happen. So what does bring them down, David? Three guests. We can, we can compare them, right? Is there any similarity? Yeah. Is there enough similarity toward an investigation into the possible use of explosives, especially since fire, the official causes of the spillies collapse has never in history brought down a steel frame fire protected structure? So what we're going to do in the conference

is look at the evidence of the features of controlled demolition on Bill. Building 7 and the Twin Towers and compare them to what actually happened in reality. And we're going to find out what brought this building down. We're going to be looking at, for instance, from West Street. Is it really symmetrical? Yeah, it's pretty symmetrical. How do you do that? You have to take out all the core columns with a fraction of a second of each other, right?

Followed about a second later by the perimeter columns. any deviation in that pattern, and the building doesn't go down symmetrically. Yeah. Pretty incredible. Did these fires take all those columns out at once, David? I said this is fifth grade. I really meant it. Yeah.

I mean, we'll laugh about this. It's a tragedy with all the people had died. It's a tragedy, but it is so unbelievably stupid that this narrative, this ridiculous narrative would go. Look at that. That's what I thought had happened. This is what you'd expect. Yeah. Exactly.

what I was imagined when I was talking to somebody on the phone and they were talking about it. I thought, wow, you know, how many other buildings that it take out when it went down? But yeah, falling over on the side like that, that is what you would expect if it's going to collapse. As you point out, it's all going to be timed perfectly or it will go over on the end. And I would suggest to people, do your own research and just go. It's kind of entertaining in a sense to look at the absurdity of this lie that they have here. But just go on YouTube and take a look at building. demolitions. Watch them over and over again. This is a number one

A1 job that they did here because as you point out, if you don't get the timing exactly right, it'll deviate and fall to one side or the other. But it is obvious if you start watching these things one after the other, it's obvious that it's a controlled demolition. It couldn't be anything other than that. Especially with this feature of free fall. They're falling as fast as a bowling ball falling out of the sky, gaining velocity every second. And so the bowling ball has no structure underneath it. This building had 40,000 tons of structural steel,

which means what? That not one of these 82 columns gave any resistance for this building's seven second fall. So did fires take them all out so that that can happen? These fires, no, not going to happen. So what we're going to do is show the committee with the 9-11 Truth and Accountability Report, and at the conference, we're going to show the evidence,

the witnesses of explosions before this building came down. And was a series of concussive explosions. Before the building came down, all these witnesses. This gentleman who worked in the 23rd floor, Emergency Management Office, Richard Rotel, he saw an elevator that was blown out of its shaft. This is after 12 o'clock in the air. afternoon, one o'clock. It was blown out of its shaft down the hall 30 to 40 feet. And this says there were no explosions. What did fire blow the elevator cab out of its shaft?

And he says gaping holes above him with columns dangling. It's pretty darn important. Many witnesses including Barry Jennings. Yeah, here's one of guys you can tell you I'm okay. Witnesses of explorations like this. You want to call your mother? Of 9-11. We'll be talking about those and controlled demolition experts and structural engineers

and the University of Alaska that got involved doing their four-year report on the building. We're being completely pulling the rug out from underneath the NIST report saying, hey, how did this building come down? It came down

because it was a global failure, evolving what? the near simultaneous failure of all the columns in the building, not a progressive collapse as claimed by NIST. So that's how obvious it is. And so we have to ask, what could have brought this building down? Well, we should look, not for conspiracy theorists, but at FEMA, who actually included in their report at the appendix C,

the metallurgical examination of the steel from Building 7 and the Twin Towers. What did they find? Never before observed, eutectic reactions causing intergranular melting, capable of turning a solid steel girder into Swiss cheese, like this piece of World Trade Center Seven steel. Guess what, David? Fire does not do this to steal. Neither does jet fuel. Doesn't melt it. We're talking about 3,000 degrees Fahrenheit to do this to steal. And twin towers, columns, thinned to razor, sharpness through what? Rapid oxidation and sulfidation. That's not fire. Liquid iron, that's molten iron. Sulfur formed during this hot corrosion attack on the steel. You can tell the temperature of molten iron and steel by its color. We're exceeding 2,500 degrees here. Fahrenheit. There's no accounting

whatsoever in the official narrative for these temperatures. And I'm only giving you the 10-minute version. We've got a five-hour version with all the sevens in it. I remember Tucker coming and I say, what isn't all these people want to say, ask me these questions about, well, what is the melting point of steel? And what is the temperature of which jet fuel burns anything that is? What is it with these people? I was like, well, you might want to think about that.

And he was interviewing somebody. Maybe you remember who he was interviewing, but he wanted to show him the pictures of Building 7, just as you showed us just now. And he says, I'm sorry, we can't run that, you know, and kind of blew it off. What the guy run? Oh, you're talking 20 years ago, right?

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was David Ray Griffin and Stephen Jones, he interviewed, ridiculed both of them. Yeah. We're still waiting for an apology. I don't know how long we have to wait. But that's all evidence of ignited incendiaries. Incendiaries work by means of heat.

Expulsives work by means of expansion of gases, organic material, and knocks things over. So we have to ask, was there any evidence of unignited? in cind areas in the World Trade Center dust and that's where Neil's hair comes in and he'll be at the conference talking about the seven

independently collected samples that he found the same curious red-gray chips in and they're attracted to a magnet so they have a high iron content so he does x-ray energy dispersal spectroscopy finds manganese iron oxide

and aluminum the signature of thermite in these they go Whoa, what's that doing? This is not paint. Paint doesn't have these exotic properties, so they zoom in 50,000 times with an electron microscope, and they find these iron oxide particles and aluminum platelets that are a thousand times smaller than the diameter of human hair.

Nanoparticles. Well, there's a lot more to this story, but they conclude in 2009 with peer-reviewed paper. that's active, unreacted thermitic material incorporating nanotechnology. So that's not been contested. And that's among the evidence that's convinced 3,600 architects and engineers on the petition at A.E.911Truth.org to find that, hey, we need an investigation. We got to get an impartial, unimpeachable investigation to find out what really happened. and many of them appear in our ongoing film series.

We have 12 episodes, six of them are done. It's called 9-11 crime scene to courtroom. And what we're doing is taking to court the evidence that we're talking about here. Here's just a taste. Improbable, the conclusion may appear. When you've eliminated the impossible, whatever remains. However, improbable must be the truth. We're bringing alive in the film the 60 exhibits of the 9-11 WTC evidence contained in the Lawyers Committee,

grand jury petition that have already been submitted to the U.S. Attorney in Manhattan to present a special criminal jury. This historic investigation is ongoing, and there's a role for you in it. Yes, you can help us bring the real perpetrators to justice. Through this film series, we're bringing together two dozen extra. in their fields. They ignored any scenario involving incendiants. Demolition work, you're going to set charges on each floor. In other words, all of the interior columns over eight stories came down,

basically lost it once. I could make out what looked like famous science fiction movie Moulth and Lod, okay? Paused and said that'll be coming down around five o'clock. to be filming these evidence presentations, not only for our filing with the grand jury, also presentations to each of you. We're inviting me to serve as virtual grand jury during each episode. Definitely.

Oh, that's excellent. That's excellent. Take a look at that, guys. 911c2c.org. Well, I would definitely indict them. Do you have the, just all the guests that you've got coming in to talk about this? Do you by any chance how the dancing Israelis

are going to come in and make an appearance? Well, we like to get them a feeling. We'd like to have them in front of the grand jury wouldn't we, yeah. That'll be pretty hard

to make happen. Many of these experts are appearing in our film also. But you've got to realize that since Building 7 is so obvious, what about the Twin Towers?

But shouldn't we at least look at it to see if there's something wrong there too? And I just wanted to share with everybody. We're here simultaneously shown the destruction of each of the two towers. Upward, outward arching streamers, a geometry of fireworks, freely flying structural steel sections, weighing four up to eight tons each, laterally ejected at 80. miles an hour, landing up to 600 feet in every direction, trailed by what? Thick white smoke clouds. Wait a minute.

Why are the structural steel sections, which are not flammable in office fire conditions trailing thick white smoke clouds? Well, let's look and see what thermite does, how it burns. We see bolt and iron, the main byproduct, but we also see thick white smoke clouds of what aluminum oxide ash, the other byproduct of thermite. This is proof of what brought the towers down because, you know, fire does not catch steel on fire. So this is the only rational explanation for that phenomenon.

So we'll be going through the features of control demolition, the Twin Towers. for instance, we're told that the upper part drove the rest of the building down to the ground. Well, guess what? Look at the lower red line, the point of plane impacts. This tower is not driving anything down to the ground. It's destroying itself, the upper part of the tower. In three seconds, it's gone.

Almost free fall acceleration in this case, 66% of free fall. It doesn't slow down. It's being destroyed. If it were there, you'd see it in photos and videos. but you don't. If it were there, it would have destroyed these few remaining columns standing 900 feet in the air for another dozen seconds. Wow.

No. So what are we looking at? Are we looking at a building collapse? Or are we looking at something else? In fact, which one is the volcano? Upward, outward arching streamers? A geometry of fireworks, freely flying, solid, molten objects trailed by thick, white, smoke clouds. That's the analogy. Yeah, building one is on the left. But look at the

similarities. It's incredible, very explosive event, not very controlled at all, actually. So we have 156 first responders who are witnesses of explosions, many of them before the towers even come down. And I'm not going to read them all to you because we're short on time, but it is incredible. We will bring all this, and I've spent 90 minutes with Senator Johnson personally on the Zoom showing him all of this

evidence, and he was blown away, which is why he appeared at our conference in Washington, D.C. But we have to ask a question, David. If 100,000 tons of structural steel is found outside, well outside the

perimeter of the towers, I've got to ask, what's crushing the building? This is a third of the weight of the building. It's not available to crush the building since it's been distributed so far laterally. And so maybe it was the concrete floors. Well, we look for the concrete floors and did we find any? We have four and eight inch thick concrete poured on metal decking supported by lightweight steel trusses. We're looking for 110 of these, each an acre.

in size, but we don't find 50. We don't find 10. We don't find one acre size floor system. We don't find a half acre, a quarter acre, 16th of an acre. Gone. In a real gravitational collapse, like this one in Mexico, we have pancakes or this one in Bangkok, 33 stories, pancake down. Guess how high that pile is? Ten stories. A third of its height. What's the size? What's the height of the pile at the towers about six stories it should have been a 30 story pile of pancakes

but there's no pancakes and there's only a six story pile look at those guys down at the bottom that's a 10 story pile of former high rise where's the concrete it's missing oh there it is

we have it's pulverized in mid air what can pulverized in mid-air what can pulver rise 90,000 tons of concrete in each of these buildings. Well, explosives can do that. Turns out heat can do that too. American Society of Testing Materials finds that at 1,500 degrees, white powder, decomposed

hydration products, that's sand and gravel and powder. It's all missing. Wait a minute. If it's missing and spread laterally, as you see on the right, throughout lower Manhattan in a blanket three inches thick, then what's crushing? the building. If all the concrete is from river to river, it's not available to crush the building below it either. Together with the steel, that's two-thirds of the weight of this building, not available to crush it whatsoever. And that's why so many architection engineers are convinced of the proof

of controlled demolition. And that's why we've got to have a new investigation, not just because the buildings were blown up, but because of the implications of this. This is obviously, an inside job, Al-Qaeda, didn't have access to this building. I constantly tell people, you know, the big mistakes we make in terms of thinking about the government is we don't realize just how evil the people are. And we don't realize how sophisticated their technology is either. You know, it really is amazing when you look at this. They were able to pull this off. And then, of course, cover it up because of their control of the media. It's scary. How controlled

they are. I mean, we've learned, I've learned that 90% of the media is controlled by just five corporations. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's getting fewer all the time. The same people will control. That one guy, yeah. And that one guy owns the arms industry, the oil industry, the banking industry, the insurance industry, and the media, of course. So, yeah, they're not working for our benefit. And we're up against, I mean, there's a lot more of us, but we're, for the most part, sheep.

Well, you know, when you look at this, it was definitely a controlled demolition of the building. It was also a controlled demolition of our government, our society, our way of life as well, isn't it? Yeah. That's the key. And that's why, you know, it's amazing that of all the senators that have come and gone, we've only got one that is even interested in. listening to this and taking a look at it. Nobody else is interested in that. Maybe they've had a talking to. I don't know. But it is, I'm glad to see that Ron Johnson is going to take this on and run with it. Hopefully he will. And hopefully they'll get some traction because that's to me the most amazing thing. We look at these absurd lies that they put out and because people are trained to listen to authority figures. They're trained to listen to peer pressure and all the rest of this stuff. And

Now we have these massive engines of generating consent we call social media as well as the mainstream media that's been there for a long time. It truly is an uphill struggle. And I know you've been at the center of this thing now for 25 years or I guess you got into it five, five years afterwards. But yeah, you've been doing it for 20 years. And it absolutely is insane that people still believe the official story. It really is. I actually. I can't understand that myself. But, you know, we're sort of living in a bubble in the truth community where we're talking to maybe 20, 30, maybe 40% of the American public. It seems like they have the other ones handcuffed and brainwashed.

And those are the people that somehow, one by one, one neuron at a time. But you know, when you look at things like, like a loose change that Jason Burmiss did. And I remember talking to Joe Biggs and he was actually, I think, in Iraq or Afghanistan when he saw that. He said he didn't know anything about it. He wasn't really, but he's just desperate for something to watch because he's got some time off. He watches that thing and just one movie like that can really change somebody's mind. That's why what you're doing is so important.

When you put together all of these presentations, these documentaries, these series of investigations, with the court stuff, I think that once somebody sees that, you can't unsee it. And then once you realize that they pull the wool over your eyes for so long on such a key issue like this, that really brings people around. And so that is the real issue, the payoff that you get when somebody finally wakes up. Because we got to think where we were before we woke up. That's right. I had swallowed the official story hook line and sinker and man.

When I heard David Ray Griffin on the radio in 2006 talk about this, I sort of could make sense the logic of what he was talking about, but I never knew a building, a third building came down. They didn't talk about that. I'm one of 90,000 members of the American Institute of Architects. We didn't get one bulletin on this, the third worst structural failure in modern history. after the Twin Towers.

So my worldview just started turning upside down. It's like, wait a minute. I've been lied to personally. I took it personally. I got real angry. I'd been deceived. The whole world had been deceived. I can't just sit on this.

I can't turn away from it. I got to talk about it. And it's been nonstop now. I mean, a thousand presentations in 24 countries. it just never stops. Maybe we are getting somewhere, David. Maybe the neurons are waking up out there at a rate and a methodology that we don't understand, a higher power at work.

We just hope after putting one foot in front of the other for so long that it will just break here. And that's what we're expecting at turning the tide 9-11 in New York City. September 10 through 13th, 40 speakers, four days, it's got to turn everything around, open everything up, break the wall of denial out there. I agree. And when you get people awake on one particular part of it, right, if you can point out to them that, hey, all these things have to go off in a very precise timing or it's not going to go straight down.

You know, you get a little bit of a wedge like that in there. tell me a little bit more. They get a little bit more of this stuff. And pretty soon, once they really get the bigger picture here, like I said, they're not going to go back and look at an official narrative the same way ever again. I think that's the key thing. You know, the guy I was joking about, say, he looks like voucher or whatever, I was thinking as you were talking about this, just how horrific this has been. And to know if you were somebody like him and you know that the official story is a lie. And you've watched these people get away with this for decades, something that murdered your family member.

It just really is going to be infuriating. Yeah. It's just amazing. It's so sad. Yeah. I'd be on fire myself. And many of the family members are the Jersey girls force the Bush administration to get the 9-11 commission going through sheer, I don't know the word.

Determination, I guess. Well, that's for sure, but the emotions behind that determination, too. It's amazing. despair. Yeah, it is. Anger. Mm-hmm. And it makes me equally angry to see, I didn't have anybody that I knew that died in any of these things.

But, you know, to see the horrific things like that one guy who jumped out when there was a fire and you see him going, you know, head first down. just the horrific personal stories with that. But when we look at what is being done to our country, that is the other thing. And this is going to be a generational thing. It's going on for a very long time. They have been planning and plotting and practicing this thing for decades. And everything is coming out according to plan.

That is what's so infuriating about all this stuff, that these guys are winning with us. So we've got to turn this stuff around. I really do hope that people will go to this. And I'm sure, you know, go to your website, as well, which is Richard Gage 911.org. People can find where they can get the tickets for that. They can also see where there's going to be additional resources that they can get,

movies that I guess that are going to be available for purchase that are going to be coming out. That tells us a little bit about some of the information resources that you have if people can't make it to the convention that's coming up. Yeah, well, first of all, it'll be live streamed. Clayton Morris's redacted platform. So millions will be able to see it, um, uh,

redacted on YouTube, uh, Clayton Morris. And, uh, yes, we'll be showing, uh,

some brief bits of the 9-11 crime scene to courtroom, uh, the docu series that we showed you a trailer of at the conference. Well, well, you, but you can see all six episodes at Richard Gage 911.org.

And, uh, and get you, find your way to the way of the website for the crime scene series. It is pretty darn good. We're submitting it through Film Hub to Amazon, Netflix, et cetera, this week. So we're hoping to get that scene out there big time.

That's great. Yeah, you can probably get it on Tooby as well. Tube is a service like that. There's ads that are embedded in it. You don't have any problem with YouTube censoring you? I've had lost five channels, but I just put up another one, As I say, YouTube is decreasing their censorship. I've heard that.

Yeah, they got some people who criticize them for politicians, and they said, well, we're all different now. It's like, yeah, I'm kind of still skeptical about that. Yeah, but they're shadow banning everybody. So they're not taking your, maybe they got sued. They can't take down your channel for those reasons anymore. COVID and Charlie Kirk and 9-11. but they can make sure nobody sees your stuff.

Yeah, that works on X for the most part, isn't it? Yeah, but I have seen some of your stuff on X, and you've got some excellent things that you, but I would encourage people to follow you on X, on Twitter, and on your social media. Yeah, Richard Gage, yeah, Richard Gage underscore 911 is our Twitter handle. Good, good. Yeah, well, we've got a couple of minutes left.

I don't want to take advantage of all the time that we have. with you. Anything else that you want to tell us a little bit about? We talked about the fact that's going to primarily focus on New York, but you do have some people going to be talking about the other events as well, right? The other events. Pentagon or 93, yeah. Oh, the other 9-11 events. Yeah, Barbara Honiguer is one that is of the experts on the Pentagon that we had four experts on with widely diverging evidence and theories about what did or didn't hit the Pentagon.

And Gail and I had a, one of the first things we did when we went independent from 8,E, 9,11, Truth was to host this 12-hour conference with two-hour presentations from each of these folks, David Chandler and Wayne Koss. on one part who were presenting the evidence that a plane a 757 did hit the Pentagon. Barbara Honinger taking the theory and evidence that a plane never hit the Pentagon but was shot down immediately before it did but 100 yards west of the explosion area. in her theory. And then we had Craig McKee and Zander Arena making the case that the plane came in,

but that it flew over the Pentagon. And then there were explosions that went off then. So it's fascinating to follow all of these different theories, but I'm sure that, well, there's been there's been quite a bit of disagreement. But all of us agree that Hanyanjur, the alleged hijacker, could not have flown the plane that did those maneuvers that we described earlier, like a fighter jet.

He failed Cessna Flying School. I mean, the things they try to get us to believe are extraordinary. And this, again, the most highly defended building in the world. That's right. They got surface-to-air missiles. Well, I remember hearing some of the pilots for 9-11 Truth, and one of the guys that they had with them was a guy who had been a flight instructor for that very plane. And he said there's absolutely no way that that plane could fly that kind of path that they're telling you that it flew.

It's just not capable of it. You know, it would, can't handle that kind of speed, that kind of stress. And it is also kind of interesting. What do they make of the issue that they didn't see the expected engine parts there? We have news reports that came out and the guy says, oh, it's really strange. Let's see the engine here. Later on, the engine did show up, you know,

some other aircraft parts. But initially, when they got there, they weren't there. Yeah, there's, the evidence is extraordinarily weak for, and manipulated. And they have videos of surely. I mean, the most highly defended building in the world, they have dozens and dozens of videos that they never released. They only released one from the guard shack with just a few frames with what they say is a plane, which some argue is indeed a plane.

But they should show us... It's only one or two frames. I mean, it's not like, you know, typically you have a minimum of like 24 frames per second. They've only got like one or two frames. So it's obviously manipulative. isn't it? Yeah, yeah. And we have the same set of questions with regard to Flight 93,

where there are witnesses and evidence that a plane was shot down by a fighter jet and that the majority of the debris didn't land in the hole in the ground, the smoking crater, but eight miles away. and there's witnesses of a missile with wings that flew low to the ground over a tree and blew up in the area where the smoking crater ended up being. We do know that one of those pilots that supposedly was sent out to intercept one of those pilots is now the chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, right? just an interesting career path.

One of the Air Force pilots? Yeah. Yeah, Kane, I think it is. What is the name? Dan Kane? Is that the guy who's a chair? Raisin Kane was a jet fighter pilot? Yeah.

Which jet fighter are we talking about, though? The ones who were sent out to intercept 93. Oh, 93, huh? Well, yeah, one of those guys said, we got in order to shoot it down, and we did. I haven't assembled this evidence, like the Building 7 and Twin Towers evidence. But people are pretty sure about this. We need to do another, Gail and I, another seminar with everybody who has something to say about 93,

like we did five years ago for the Pentagon. Yeah, they've created this entire mythology around it, besides all the disinformation. It is amazing. It is full spectrum. And only the U.S. government, I think, could pull off something like this. So that's another indication of an inside job, isn't it? And who benefited from this? It certainly is an amazing story. And one that impacts each and every one of us, even if we didn't have loved ones who died in this. We're all impacted by this. And our entire society has been changed by this. This is why I call it our modern Reichstag fire. This is

far more sophisticated than anything the Nazis pulled off. Yeah, it is. I'm afraid of where it's going. What's the next one going to be? A false flag. Nuclear bomb going off in Los Angeles, blamed on Iran.

Yeah. That seems like what they need to have their dream come true of nuking Iran, which they've been talking about in the last few days. Maybe I'll just, we didn't get to the lower row here. Richard Grove is on the bottom row here. He is a, he'll be speaking at the conference, turning the tide in New York.

And he will be exposing the crimes, the financial crimes occurring on and before 9-11. Oh, yeah. Isn't that interesting? Yeah, that is, nobody investigated that, did they? Well, they, they, they may have. I mean, not in the government, yeah, other people. They didn't let us know about it. God.

For instance, the Securities and Exchange Commission lost thousands of files related to hundreds of cases they were pursuing on the 12th floor and the 13th floor of building seven. But because that building went down, all of a sudden, WorldCom and, um, Enron were stopped. There's a huge financial criminals and crimes that were just stopped. I didn't realize that it impacted the Enron investigation. That's interesting. Yeah. Well, those were the worst fires in Building 7.

Many believe they were set on purpose on the 12th floor for that reason. We have Carol Brulet, Mike Berger, and others who were around before I ever woke up, they were screaming inside job with lots of evidence to support it and the beginning of the 9-11 Truth Movement with particularly the website 9-11truth.org. And those folks will be coming to share what it was like, you know, in the early days after 9-11,

when we were trying to go to war, right? The drums, the war, led by the media, were extraordinary. And they, they, so this was not an environment conducive to speaking 9-11 truth. They got shut down, hard, cold, fast. Wow. And, but they, they persevered, though. But their message did not reach audiences right away. The 9-11 Truth movement sort of peaked.

in 2006, 7, 8, 9, where we were being asked to go all over Europe and sponsored by people who cared, activists all around the world. Yeah, because it doesn't just affect America. You know, this is a global issue. Look at how they have used this. And, of course, America's got such a big footprint

than when we kick somebody, it's the boot heard around the world, isn't it? I never heard that. I like it. It's true. Yeah, it's crazy. Just the fact that they've been able to get away with this for 25 years. But the truth will eventually go around the world. As they say, you know, I can go around the world before the truth can get its pants on. And so we have to take this thing one leg at a time. And I thank you so much for your persistence and all this. And your very learned investigation about all this. You've put together the real facts here. And people really

really need to hear this. I mean, the truth needs to be let out. And so thank you for doing that. Really appreciate it. Again, it is turning the tide that is coming up. And the dates on that are the 10th through the, was it 12th? 13th. 13th. Okay, 10th through 13th in New York. But of course, people will be able to find this if they go to Richard Gage, 911.org. You can find out more about the physical conference. You can find out all kinds of resources and how you can stream that there. Thank you so much for joining us, Richard. You're welcome, David. Glad to be here. Thank you. Glad to have you on. Thank you. Keep up the good fight.

We'll do. Thank you. You're listening to the David Knight Show. Joining us now is Hummet Sturts, and he wrote a book, The Vaccine Mafia. I think we all know who the dawn of that mafia is in this last event here. We're going to talk a little bit about what happened, and it's not just a critique of what happened in 2020, but he's a toxicologist and he worked for Pfizer. He was the chief toxicologist there, as a matter of fact. And so we want to talk about what he would do there typically.

So we get an idea of what was skipped and also his ideas of what need to be done in the future. Thank you for joining us, sir. Thank you very much for inviting me. And again, the book is the vaccine mafia. And tell us a little bit about what you did at Pfizer as the chief toxicologist. What does the toxicologist do? at the safety, I guess. Yes, absolutely.

And it depends very much in which position you are. You start with treating animals with new compounds in order to make sure that these compounds before they go into men do not show toxicities that are not acceptable. It depends, of course, very much on the compound. If you're treating, if you're searching for, for an anti-cough medicine, then the side effects must be really disappeared or must really be avoided.

Whereas if you are searching for an anti-cancer compound, it is clear that the number of and the severity of the side effects may be much more important and acceptable because these people are fighting for their life. Whereas for a anti-cancery, anti-calf medicine, that's comfort. I say yes. Yes.

At the beginning of my career, I was myself working with animals in order to make sure that the compounds were not toxic. And later on, especially at the end with Pfizer, I was more in a managerial position and I coordinated the work in the institute. I had an institute with 150 people of... whom about a third were scientists and the other people were technicians. About how long were you there from what dates? From 2001 to 2008. And I ended my career there because Pfizer had decided to close the site. I had to worry about toxicology anymore.

I had too many laboratories for toxicology around the globe. And so the French laboratory was shut. So here in the United States, we have different procedures, of course, if it's a therapeutic versus a vaccine, different amounts of time, I guess, to take a look at both the safety and the efficacy of that. But what were the procedures in Europe, for example? Were they different than the U.S.? The procedures are not.

different in Europe or in Australia or whatsoever because the companies always want to have the global market and therefore they have to follow the international guidelines. In former times, every country had its own guidelines and that was a nuisance because if you wanted to sell your compound in the United States, you had also to follow the FDA guidelines. And so the community of scientific community, not really, only in the pharmaceutical industry, they put their knowledge together and they created internationally acceptable guidelines, such as the ICH guidelines international consortium

of harmonization. If not, there are guidelines from the WHO, for instance, for vaccines, and they have been followed partly by Pfizer and biotech, but there are other guidelines specialized. that we follow for the FDA, for instance, regarding pregnant women and young individuals. Yeah, and that was kind of the concerns about pregnant women being given vaccines. Everything has kind of been eradicated. Pretty much it was on the way to doing that before we actually had the COVID vaccines as well, wasn't it? They were really easing up on those restrictions, weren't they?

Yes. whatsoever compound, be it a chemical compound or a vaccine, there was a golden rule which said, you never, really never treat a pregnant woman with a new compound. This has completely been forgotten. Yes, it has. It truly is amazing. And it happened so rapidly.

I remember how they were pushing it heavily towards pregnant women. It's like, wait a minute. The narrative that we heard was that this was just affecting older people, and now you're pushing it for pregnant women. It's crazy. Yeah, that is interesting. Now, you know, one of the things, of course, I really indelibly etched into my memory was Donald Trump saying how he was ordering the FDA, and he's talked about this subsequently. He said, yeah, they were taking too long, and I told him, you get that done right away or you're out of there. And that was the threat that he made publicly at the time. He made that to the head of the the FDA, and he boasted about it afterwards. And so I guess the question is, you know, when we look

at the rules, you're talking about international set of rules. I don't know what the, you know, if, I guess because it was approved by the FDA in the U.S., did that help to move it with the international rules, or did they just waive all that because the so-called emergency? It was all more or less going with the same speed. And in the United States, and there was no approval in an ordinary way. It was an emergency use authorization, which meant that for the duration of the PRAP Act, this compound could be used.

And whenever the PRAP Act would end, then this use authorization would also be terminated. And it's interesting to see that the PRAP Act will survive until the end of 2009. So are many years ahead. And interestingly, and I was really set up, that Kennedy did not do what he had promised, namely, to take these vaccines, these messenger RNA vaccines of the market. On the contrary, he declared them ordinary vaccines. So that it's now the doctor who has to decide whether he wants to inject them or not. Yeah. And, and, and there's, and, Here we have this law that gives them legal immunity for vaccine damages for children.

It's one of the reasons many of us believe that they pushed it to get it authorized for children so they could get that same kind of immunity. How do you see that in terms of legal immunity? Well, this is a relatively long story. This possibility to get out of the responsibility for its own products started with the vaccinations of children. in the 70s and 80s, when the pharmaceutical industry told, the president, if you don't take this burden off our shoulders, we will get punk wrapped.

So I think it was, which president was it? Reagan. Reagan. Reagan said, okay, now it's the state of the country that will take over these responsibilities. and the cost for helping the people. The same thing is it doesn't hold true in Europe. In Europe, normally, the project holder is responsible and will remain responsible. But there is a clause in the European purchasing contract with Pfizer,

which says that, well, the company does not have the responsibility for damage only if there is willful misconduct. Willful misconduct, that's very difficult to prove because it's an act or omission taken intentionally to achieve a wrongful purpose, knowingly without legal or factual justification, and in this regard of knowingly, or obvious risk. So get that so that great harm can happen. And to prove this will be very difficult. So in fact, the Pfizer will not, most probably not be held accountable in the European community as long as we cannot prove that they knew exactly what they were doing

and that they were doing willful misconduct. it's a very dirty game from my perspective. Yes. And of course, as all this was happening, there was a report that came out with an industry trade publication, stat news. I don't know if you're familiar with that or not, but they put out information saying that there was,

I forget what the three countries were now, but one of them, they were all in South America. And because everybody needed to have this vaccine for their citizens or there would basically be a no-travel zone They were essentially blackmailed by Pfizer to say that if you don't give us immunity, you talk about willful negligence. You know, they typically had the kind of immunity because it was a rushed emergency situation. But they said, we want additional immunity against negligence in terms of manufacturing and other issues,

very extensive. And they said, and we want to have collateral for that. We want you to give us some collateral that is outside of your country. And it was really amazing. Are you familiar with that? No. It was reported in Staten News, but it was, yeah, they were talking about it. Some of the people comment on it said, well, they want like embassies or something as collateral

that are outside of the country because they were worried that they were going to find some kind of maybe willful misconduct there. I don't know. But before we move on from what is normal in terms of the childhood vaccine and stuff like that. How does a childhood vaccine schedule differ in Europe to the United States? It's quite a few less, isn't it? I didn't get your question. The required childhood vaccine schedule. I mean, we have a vaccine schedule where we have a lot of different diseases that the children are vaccinated for, and they do it repeatedly. I mean, we have, you know, several different doses

of the same vaccine. What is it like in Europe? Is it like that? It's less frequent. the vaccination of children, but still it's most probably too much, especially under the discussion about autism. This is coming up. I think we have not more than 12 or 15 obligatory vaccinations and children, but this may still be too much. We know, and it has been proven, that autism is increasing in a traumatic way because we inject the children at very young age frequently. And if you challenge the immune system in such a way, you must expect side effects,

especially if the children develop fever. And all this happens also in the brain area. So if you have fever, you get seizures, and you may have an outcome that is equivalent to autism. And in countries or in areas, even in the United States, for instance, among the Amish, who are not really fans of vaccination, you have a much lower level of a number of autistic children.

Yes. Yeah, we had a situation here in Tennessee. I've talked about a couple of times. We had some family that moved to Tennessee because they wanted to homeschool their kids and some other things like that. And then they got a divorce. And as part of the divorce proceedings, the wife's mother knew that the judge was a big fan of vaccination and told the judge, these kids have not been vaccinated.

He said, well, I think that's child abuse. He said, whoever wants to agree to get their kid caught up on the vaccine schedule, gets custody of them. So she said, I'll do it. And she took them out. They gave the three kids, the older daughter didn't get all the vaccines. at once because she'd already had a reaction to it. They gave the two younger boys the vaccines to catch up all at once, and they both immediately

went into the intensive care unit and were there for many days. The youngest one was there for the longest amount of time, and after he got out, he is so severely autistic he has to wear a diaper. I mean, he's just in communicato. And that happened instantly just as they gave them all those catch-up vaccines. And I guess that's my next question to you. as a toxicologist, were there ever any test in terms of the cumulative effect, one vaccine with another, or the fact that they put in adjuvants in the vaccine to motivate the immune

system to react to it? Is there any testing that is typically done in the past that would look at the cumulative effect or the interaction between these different vaccines and adjuvants? No. As far as I know, I mean, we have to distinguish between clinical trials and preclinicals or toxicology trials. The only trial in rats that was performed with the vaccine of anti-COVID, that was a vaccine. That was a trial where the mother rats were treated during pregnancy. and thereafter, when they had delivered, the youngs are observed. And normally, among these young pups, you have also to perform behavioral tests,

but they were not done. They just were doing an auditory test and an ocular test, but the behavioral test and the learning test and all of that was not done. Would we have been able to discover this? That's another question, but it was just omitted. And as far as I know, but I'm really not a specialist in clinical experiments, I do not believe that these compounds are ever treated against another compound or for accumulation. And another important fact that it's lacking with the compound of Pfizer and Pyontac, that it's, that

is they have never tested for interference between the vaccine, other vaccines or other medications. Because as you said, at the very beginning, it was very clear that this was a vaccination, especially in order to save or to help elderly people. And elderly people very often take X different compounds in parallel every day. So it is interesting to see, does the vaccine, have an impact on the other compounds that I'm taking. I myself have to take an anticoagulant and an anti-aritmic, so it would have been interesting to see what the interactions are. But they said we don't need that.

It was really, it was like a Swiss cheese, more holes in the dossier than tissue. That's right. It truly is crazy what was allowed. But of course, we have seen, that's the first time we saw the emergency used in such an extensive way. But that basically has become the favorite governing tactic of our president right now. He declares everything to be an emergency so that he removes any guidelines. I mean, we had emergencies about tariffs, for example.

And so it doesn't have to be something that even you could argue is a serious matter. He just declares an emergency arbitrarily and sweeps aside all guidelines and restrictions. But going back to this, when you're talking about the interaction between different things, that reminds me, what about a placebo? I mean, did they run a test when they look at, let's say, the efficacy of it? What do they use for a placebo? Do they use other vaccines? They could use other vaccines. That's even a standard in the development of vaccines.

You do not test them against placebo. However, in the context of the Pfizer compound, I believe that this was a placebo. They at least called it placebo. Was it another vaccine? I just don't know. But it would have been normal to test against placebo, which means not a solution with aluminum or all the other ingredients, but really an inert and new. neutral.

Yeah, something like a saline solution or something like that. I seem to have seen, I don't know if it was COVID or if it was something else that when they would run the test, the placebo was, for example, the meningitis vaccine with all the adjuvants in it and everything else. Yeah. It's much easier to compare with another vaccine because you can say, oh, it's not worse than the other one. But it doesn't prove that it's better. That's right.

It doesn't prove it's safe, does it? So we've seen everything just kind of swept aside in an emergency. We already had a questionable series of tests that would be done on this. As a matter of fact, we talk about the testing of therapeutics and of vaccines here in the U.S. I know the three phases that they go through of testing, the first part of it is really kind of focused on the toxicology exclusively. Then as they start to test individuals if it's a therapeutic and they're going to be addressing the condition, the individuals or people have that condition that they're giving you the therapeutic for. And then they look to see if it helps them.

You know, that's the basic thing. But if you're doing that with a vaccine, I know that when this was happening, there were a lot of people who were very afraid of the emergency that had been created in the media. And so they were volunteering to be a challenge tester. And I recall when they were talking about that, they said, well, we don't do that. That's unethical. We're not going to vaccinate you for disease and then exposure. you to the disease and see if you catch it, which is really, I guess, the whole point of a vaccine,

isn't it? At least it used to be. Yes. Yeah. And there is a special point that is at the end of this phase three study, they proposed to all the placebo control people to take the vaccine. And with that, they destroyed immediately the whole control group, which is fantastic. I mean, Unbelievable. Is that something that was never done before as well? I think that hasn't happened before because they said this disease is so dramatic, it is unethical not to give them the controls the chance to be vaccinated and to be protected. So this was completely falsified as a feeling of ethics. For me, we are talking about.

a mafia. And for me, the mafia is not just the pharmaceutical industry. On the contrary, the pharmaceutical industry, from my point of view, is a rather tiny part of this mafia. For me, the really relevant parts, they are in a much higher level. It's the governments, it's the military. It is organizations such as W. WHO, UNO, NATO, they are all involved. I agree. I agree.

The tech giants, the foundations of Gates, Gavi, CEP, Soros, because they are all earning money with that. Yes. And for them, it's important that the money flow is great. And they also do the same thing with the military industry. So they're just investing, making money. It's not important where it comes from. And also the climate policy is involved in this. And so this mafia is only around making a lot of money.

And it's a web of criminal interests. And it's at high levels of the... state and government and of the private sector. And here I would like to remind of a word that President Eisenhower said in 2016 when he gave his good farewell speech, he said, pay attention to the military and industrial complex. They will take over the power. And that's exactly what we have today. That is a very important message, and I'm glad that you brought all that stuff in. It is much bigger than just the vaccine companies, as you point out.

It is a giant web of institutions that are out there. It's a business model. Yeah, it's a business model, just like the military industrial complexes. And, you know, the people who are designing weapons for the military industrial complex, they're not really concerned about anybody that gets hurt with any of this stuff. And I think that's one of the things that we certainly, they made no secret about it. here in the United States actually bragged about operational warp speed being tied in with the military but i think that lesson has been lost on a lot of people and of course the connections

with DARPA in terms of developing the MRNA stuff is also very concerning did you talk specifically about the unique issues of MRNA well um this is the point the crucial point in the whole thing because one one thing is the COVID-19 is not over. They are still using this vaccine, and it has to do with the dangers that are coming from the manufacturing procedure. And you must probably know that many compounds

are in the pipelines of the companies that are against all sorts of different diseases and they are all based on this messenger RNA technology. And the dangerous thing is, when you develop your compound in the preclinical phase or in the clinical phase before launch, you use a very pure DNA, which you can synthesize with PCR technology.

And from this template, you translate your DNA. information for the messenger RNA. So you work with very pure material, but this is quite time consuming and very expensive. So at the end of the development before launch, they had to find a way to produce the vaccines in a much easier and quicker way. And what did they do? They used the information for the spike protein and injected them it into the DNA of E. coli. So into the DNA of a bacterium. And this bacterium develops very, very rapidly. Within hours and days you can produce enormous amounts of what you can use afterwards for

the vaccination. But, and here's the danger. You cannot avoid completely that parts of the bacterial DNA gets into the jab. So you cannot filter it out. And you know that the messenger RNA is packed into nanolipids of very small fat bullets. And these bullets contain also DNA from the bacterium. And this goes into human cells. and if the DNA of the bacterium gets in a human cell, it can pass into the nucleus of the cell,

and there it can really create a disaster. And that's a possibility to explain the cancer cases that we currently have in a dramatic increase in cancer, the so-called turbo cancers, which you cannot any longer. Very often you cannot treat them because the onset is so right, rapid, they pass the first stages of carcinogenicity and go immediately into metastasing processes which cannot be controlled. And that is something that has been pursued and warned against very early on by Professor

Dalgash from England. He said in 2021, pay attention, we risk of having cancer. The other point is, despite the fact that there are much less injections today, we see that the fertility goes down, continuously goes down. Of course, everybody will say, yeah, that started already with the introduction of the contraceptical pill in the 70s and 80s. There is a tendency for lower fertility, but now with the vaccinations, it's dramatically going up. or if you like it's going down the fertility and therefore there are risks that we do not manage and that may be prolonged so with the end of the vaccination period in the context of COVID there may still be cases where the people die or are infertile or other side

effects appear despite the fact that the injections were long ago so it's it's like a dameocles sword that is hanging about the people especially those people who are constantly getting booster oh yeah oh yeah so it's not it's not over and the other thing is that I said they are having projects for many different diseases where they want also to use this new technology And this technology is intrinsically dangerous. Yes, I called up from the very beginning a genetic code injection because, you know, if you're going to bring in something, maybe, you know, you understand more about the mechanics of it than I do.

But the way it was explained and the way it was on Moderna's site was that we're going, you know, this is the messenger MRNA that does copying and that type of thing. We're going to turn your body into a manufacturing facility for the active part of the ingredient. And I said, okay, where's the off switch? Exactly. I don't know how this turns off. And for a lot of people, it hasn't turned off. That's part of the issue, I think.

No. One has seen that even after three years, the spike protein is still available in tissues. It's very difficult to degrade this, to metabolize it. So we were given a lot of false information. It didn't stay in the muscle where it was injected. It did not disappear within a couple of days in the bloodstream, even the messenger RNA, which was more or less a modified messenger RNA. The modification meant that this substance would remain much longer in action in the body.

That was the modification. Therefore, we were told almost that was all junk that we were told it. There were so many lies. But the people didn't understand or the others who were critical, they were just shut down. They were no longer invited. They couldn't publish. There was some sort of censorship. And therefore, the existence of many doctors and scientists was just destroyed.

They were just cut out. And so nobody dared any longer to say something. And if you can't publish, and if you know that you can go even to jail, if you have children and you have to nourish your family, then you most probably would say, okay, I'll wait until it will be over. And it were mostly people like me after retirement who spoke up. Oh, thank you for doing that. I appreciate that.

Yes. It truly is amazing. When you look at it, when we're talking about this MRNA stuff, how radically different it was from anything else. Again, a compound is something that's very different. You would see that happening in these other drugs or vaccines or something like that. But this going in with an MRI approach is something that was really radically new and then totally untested. And yet when Donald Trump comes back in on his second day of actually his first day,

it was the day after he got sworn in, the very first thing he does is say we're going to partner with Oracle I'm going to have AI design custom MRNA for you for particular diseases. And so they're doubling and tripling down on this. They're accelerating it. They're not even cautious about it anymore, are they? It would really be good if Donald Trump and also Robert Kennedy said regarding the childhood vaccinations, yes, we stop this because they have said it several times already. They have even tried to introduce a reduction of these obligatory vaccinations,

but they most probably knew that this would not be accepted by the judges and so on, so they lost. And we are back in the United States at an enormous number of vaccinations. If they really were interested in the health of the youth, they would just say, do not vaccinate children before three years of age. because then you would cut out the age where the brain is very much developing and is very sensitive to disturbances, fever and other things. So this would really be good, but, well, he only sees business opportunities. Yes, yes.

And of course, when we look at it, you know, you're talking about the mafia being a major network of all kinds of interest, not just pharmaceutical company, but all these other... entities and institutions out there that feed off of this. But another part of this, of course, that we can't forget about is the media and how they have been absolutely controlled in this country since the mid-1990s when they started allowing them to do the Ask Your Doctor commercials. Do they do that in Europe? It's not in the same way, but the media very much involved in the propaganda and fear-mongering

procedures. So they are one of them in the major institutions that are responsible for this disaster. And I would also like to mention that if the doctors, I mean, these are people who have studied for 10 years and then they have their professional experience, if they stood up in 2021 and said, we don't inject this. It was over. But they didn't. On the contrary. I mean, I don't want... And the few who did got purged here in the U.S. as well, just like everything else. In Europe, in Europe as well. Very sad.

It is, it is. And of course, not just the media, but of course, in the United States, we have the hospitals run by major corporations, and that was one of the reasons why this was happening. It was all fueled by money out of Washington. They gave them bonuses to do whatever they wanted. And then after they got them hooked on that. They said, well, now if you don't do the next thing, you're not going to, we're going to take that money that you got used to away from you. I mean, that is a classic organized crime tactic too as well. So it truly is amazing. So what do we do about this? You know, we've been critiquing what happened with all this stuff. What, as somebody who has worked on toxicology

has a lot of experience with this, are there any things that you would suggest that need to be Don, of course, I think at the top of the list would be informed consent and free speech, but what else would you have in terms of reform? A very important aspect is what we are doing this evening, informing people and waking people up. I mean, we will not be able to convince the pro-vaxxers that this is dangerous. It's like a religion. They adhere to it and they will not.

change their mind. But everybody else who doesn't have a very firm conviction about vaccination, he should wake up and he should be told, don't get vaccinated again. And obviously, not with the vaccines that are built on this MRI technology. I mean, there are many vaccinations since many years that may have a positive influence. One can have a doubt about others because many vaccines were introduced when the disease or the problem was almost eradicated. And the pro-vaxxers obviously say, oh, look, we have eradicated the disease, which in many cases absolutely not true. But But there are most probably interesting and important vaccinations, but one should in each case see, together with one's doctor, is this really important for me?

I have, everybody has a system that fights germs. So our immune system, since millions of years, keeps us in a healthy state. So why don't we stimulate our immune system so that we can overcome normal infections? There may be infections that need really a vaccination, but in most of the cases we should just rely on our immune system and we should eat correctly and so on. But this is more a sociological question in many countries, also in Europe, the people just don't eat healthy food.

and this may hinder our immune system to function normally. But I think that's one of the big things when I looked at all this. You know, of course, the science of virology, put it science in quotes, telling us that, you know, this is the way this works. We're going to introduce something here to train your immune system, right? This is going to simulate the disease and train your immune system. And then we had Fauci come out and break the fourth wall, if you will,

and talked regularly to the audience and say, well, no, if you've had the disease, natural immunity doesn't work. And it's like, how could that possibly be true? That's like saying, even if you've been in 50 dog fights as a pilot, you've got to go back to flight school and learn this stuff. We're not going to let you fly again unless you do that.

Well, I don't want to comment on Mr. Fauci. That's a subject to an old other book, right? Yeah, he's currently the scapegoat. after having been the hero. I agree. But he's really a little figure in this whole game. Only it helps to deviate the view regarding the really responsible people. I agree.

I agree. And I've said that myself, they make him the scapegoat so that everybody is turned on him and they don't see the bigger picture that you're talking about, which is the mafia that is out there. I agree. They personalized it for him because he's elderly. He's been given a pardon by. Biden. He was given a commendation by Trump. So he's pretty much a safe guy. They know that they can

heap the scorn on him. And not even he is going to have to really worry about anything happening to him. This was done in a very, very interesting way. I mean, why has he been pardoned for the time after 2014? In 2014, his institute in AIED, started supporting, financially supporting, um, go, um, gain of function.

Gain a function. So he's, he is personally responsible from 2014 for the support of what finally ended with the Saskov two and the, the, the disease that we, we went through. So yes, 2014 is a logical, uh,

date from, from which he became unattable. I remember when that started back in 2014, there was an excellent series from USA Today by a reporter named Allison Young. And she was talking about what was happening at these biosafety level three and four labs and how there been one accident after the other people working on diseased animals and they escape out into the wild or you have exposure to different workers who are there. And everybody started questioning what we were doing.

in terms of gain of function. Why are we doing this? What are we really gaining? And what is the risk that we have here? At that point in time, they said, okay, stop the gain of function stuff. And Fauci and his boss, Francis Collins, continued to fund that research in a couple of different areas, like the ones that you mentioned there. And when they produced their results, there were a lot of people and said, well, you were supposed to stop that. So, well, we just determined that we would do it on our own. So again, there's no controls that we see in the American system for trying to stop this. Even when you're told and you have your funding cut for that, they find another way to continue on with it anyway. And so it really is laid at the, I don't know, Francis Collins,

who is head of the NIH. I don't know if he got any kind of immunity or not, but it seems you're like you'd have just as much culpability. But nobody talks about him because he's this nice guitar playing, singing a scientist, I guess, that's out there. So he avoids the scrutiny that people have poured onto Fauci. But everything about this is just so far out of whack. It truly is amazing. The fact that we've got, and you point out in your book, you talk a course about myocarditis, how could we not talk about this? We're not talking about myocarditis. These are things that I'd never, ever heard of, but they became household words. And people might want to say, well, why do we have that as a household war now? Why do we have a situation where children

who are going to participate in sports have to have an electrocardiogram before they participate in sports? Why is that the new normal? And everybody just goes along with it. It's absolutely insane, isn't it? That's again, how and where we are obliged to inform people and to wake them up. there should really be something like a revolution 200 some years ago in France where we really stand up and say no stop that's enough I mean

we will not be able we cannot build on some heroes who will speak up the people have to get up and say no I don't let my children be injected I agree. Fine.

Yes. I hope people can, I hope your book gets a lot of traction because it is something that is really needed. And people need to see the bigger picture here. As you point out, focusing on Fauci or focusing on Francis Collins or focusing on Trump or Biden, that doesn't change anything because everybody's got their own personal baggage. People need to see that it is an institutional network that is out there. And it has taken over massive sectors of so many areas of our society. We're talking about the military or the press or the corporations or the multinational NGOs and all these other things.

They're all working together. And it is such a huge problem that you're right. Unless people rise up from the grassroots, enough of us, it'll never stop until we've said that we've had enough. And I guess the equivalent would be let them inject them RNA, right? It's a, it's a, it's a Maria internet. You see, I also think that during the development of this vaccine, inside of Pfizer, the toxicologists, did they have a say there? Did they oversee what was done? Did they comment it?

Most probably not. They were most probably not involved in the development, in the toxicological development, because there was not much. And even Dr. Burla, who is a veterinarian, so he should have. understood what was going on, he should have asked the people in the laboratories, what have we done in order to make this compound safe? No, nobody asked these questions. And the people at bio-intech, and that was the beginning of this, they were just not qualified from my perspective.

They contracted the studies, the few studies. They contracted them out, and they must probably did not know what to tell the contractor. so it was done in the usual way. No, nothing special. But they knew that billions of people would be injected. So that should have been an alert, a real alert, in order to make these compounds safe. No, nothing.

And of course, farming it out to somebody, I guess that gives them some plausible deniability, as the CIA would say, right? Yeah, it's not as those other guys. We can't point fingers in different directions, can't we? Well, you know, one of the things also that stuck out to me about all this was there were several European members of Parliament. You probably recall this. They said, we want to see, you know, the reports that you've got and the information.

And they fought and fought and fought as members of the European Parliament. Finally, they got some documents and they held a press conference. They said, this is what we got. And it was all redacted like it was something coming from the national security state. They have stonewalled politicians even on this who want to have that kind of information. haven't they? Yes, that's right. And it has, I mean, we know everything because some people just got these

informations out of the companies, but nothing happened. Yeah. Now there may be a beginning of progress, namely Bioentech, the partner of Pfizer, was ordered by the court to give the information. all the information on side effects to the victims. So this may be a first step in the right direction. And where did that happen? In Germany.

Germany, okay. In Germany. But as Bay and Tech and Pfizer are working together, there will also be an impact on Pfizer. And here in France, there is a case where a private person is asking information regarding the safety of the compounds and because he has lost his wife by a very rare disease, Kreuzfeld-Jacob, disease of the brain,

and he says my wife developed this a couple of weeks after the injection. And well, the court at the beginning said, well, this disease develops over many years so the injection cannot be responsible. But if, and it was after the second injection, if this injection creates a cytokin storm, then in the brain several areas may be attacked, and this may result in this disease,

which normally develops very slowly. And we also have now cases of Alzheimer's or Parkinson appearing in much younger people that are vaccinated. So there is a link, the biological link to the whole thing. And I hope that we can go on and can at least push the companies to care for the victims. This is for me a very important point also in my book. These people, these are hundreds of thousands of people. who are left aside.

And they are very often unable to keep on studying, to do their jobs and so on. They are just forgotten. Yes. Forgotten. And it would be really normal to take at least the part of what the companies have earned to help these people, because most of them have to pay for their medical treatments themselves.

They are ruined very quickly. And they are many, and is a very important point, Many young people after the vaccination develop side effects that forces them to ask for euthanization. They go into Switzerland and get a deadly injection. This has increased tremendously. And this cannot just not go on. Yeah, terrific. The responsibilities have to be taken over.

and it's not Mr. Fauci. It is on different levels of this criminal pyramid. I agree, I agree. Yeah, we're talking about people who have been injured and their life has been changed. One of the individuals that I interviewed, a couple of years into this, had been an orthopedic surgeon.

And after the injection, he just started trembling and he, of course, couldn't be a surgeon anymore. And he went to one doctor after the other and they would look at it and say, I can't do anything. You know, they'd get very uncomfortable about it. And he said, finally I got to a guy and he said, well, I think we know what caused this,

but we're not going to talk about that. I'll try to do what I can to help you. I mean, the fear that it engendered into people, the fear and intimidation is really something that you expect to see out of a totalitarian society. And that's what this mafia has imposed upon us, isn't it? Yes, absolutely right. It is crazy.

Well, I'm glad that you wrote this book, and I hope that it has widely passed around and that people will understand this and pass this on, maybe gift it to your friends. It would be a great way to do this. You've got to get that information out there one way or the other. And if we don't get that out there, certainly nothing will happen. So first of all, people need to understand what has happened. And we've got too many people are still in the dark because they have been lied to.

They've been deceived by this mafia that is out there. So we've got to break that ignorance before we can have any kind of light. and then it'll be difficult enough after we wake people up to do something about it. But nothing is going to happen if people don't understand what is going on with it. Thank you so much for coming on with us and talking about this book. And thank you for being honest and taking an honest look at this. So we're talking to Helmut Sturtz. And again, the book, as you see there, is the Vaccine Mafia.

Thank you so much for joining us, sir. Thank you very much to giving me the theater here to talk about my book. and about general aspects of this criminal. Criminal. It is very criminal, isn't it? Yeah. I'm really, I'm down. Yeah.

And I thank you very much. And this is most probably the most important way of giving the information because selling a couple of thousand books will not really help and push the information to the public. Well, if you can get that information, out there to people, maybe they'll go a little bit deeper, you know. I'd love to sell 330 million books in the United States, but this is probably an illusion. That's right.

Make sure to call it common sense. This is the kind of common sense that we need right now. You know, Thomas Payne pretty much had a book that was in the hand of every American at the time of the American Revolution. We need to win those hearts and minds. We need to wake people up to the common sense. And it can be done with information because this whole thing has been. initiated and guarded by disinformation and by censorship and punishment of people who question it. And that was one of the things I said from the very beginning and throughout all of it.

Science has never settled, is it? It's always questioning the conventional wisdom that moves science ahead. And it's about time we start to question that conventional wisdom, I think. Yes. Yes. Thank you very much. Thank you. Have a good day.

The common man. They created common core to dumb down our children. They created common past to track and control us. Their commons project to make sure the commoners own nothing and the communist future. They see the common man is simple, unsophisticated, ordinary. But each of us has worth and dignity created in the image of God. That is what we have in common.

That is what they want to take away. Their most powerful weapons are isolation, deception, deception, intimidation. They desire to know everything about us while they hide everything from us. It's time to turn that around and expose what they want to hide. Please share the information and links you'll find at the Davidnightshow.com. Thank you for listening. Thank you for sharing. If you can't support us financially, please keep us in your prayers. TheDavidnightshow.com.