The David Knight Show - Fri Episode #2359: Redacted Contracts, Hidden Cameras and Government Secrecy

Episode Date: September 25, 2026

────────────────────────────────────────[00:04:43] Secret Pfizer, Eli Lilly Tariff Deals Tied to Trump's "Favored Nation" StatusHHS and Commerce stonewalled FOIA requests, then released the pharma contracts heavily redacted.────────────────────────────────────────── Interview 1: Mary Holland — Children's Health Defense ──[00:12:41] Holland: 1986 Vaccine Act Gave Pharma "Liability Protection on Steroids"It created a perverse incentive to mandate shots that were never properly safety-tested.────────────────────────────────────────[00:29:43] CHD Sues American Academy of Pediatrics for Civil RacketeeringHolland says AAP forces doctors onto the vaccine schedule or threatens their practice.────────────────────────────────────────[00:40:46] Holland: Idaho's 15% Vaccine Opt-Out Rate Is the Highest in the NationShe backs a Rand Paul bill letting families sue makers instead of using the federal fund.────────────────────────────────────────[00:45:33] Holland: DeSantis Refused to "Run the Experiment" of COVID LockdownsFlorida saw fewer deaths than many locked-down states, she says.────────────────────────────────────────── Interview 2: Eric Peters — EricPetersAutos.com ──[00:49:59] Peters: Flock Cameras Went From Rare to Everywhere Since 2024The rush to build surveillance and data centers isn't about faster Netflix streaming, he says.────────────────────────────────────────[00:57:43] Rural Virginia Data Center Deal Hidden Behind an NDALocal officials won't name the builder; a public meeting on it was simply ignored.────────────────────────────────────────[01:01:15] ICE Beats a US Citizen Bloody in Chicago, Leaves Him on the SidewalkBorder Patrol's warrantless reach now covers roughly two-thirds of the US population.────────────────────────────────────────[01:15:42] Diesel Hits $6.50 a Gallon as the "Israel Tax" Piles UpExtra fuel costs alone could run over $1,200 a year per household if prices hold.────────────────────────────────────────[01:57:59] Peters: Trump Is "President Ted Bundy," a Charismatic ConHis agenda would've fit a 1960s Democratic ticket, but his team runs like the mob. ──────────────────────────────────────── Money should have intrinsic value AND transactional privacy: Go to https://davidknight.gold/ for great deals on physical gold/silver For 10% off Gerald Celente's prescient Trends Journal, go to https://trendsjournal.com/ and enter the code “KNIGHT” For high quality made in America products go to HomeSteadProducts.shop and use promo code “Knight” for 10% off your purchases Find out more about the show and where you can watch it at TheDavidKnightShow.com If you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-show Or you can send a donation throughMail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @[e-mail] App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.

of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. It's the David Knight Show. As the clock strikes 13, it's Friday the 25th of September, year of our Lord, 2006. Well, today we have a couple of great guests. I think you're really going to enjoy. I enjoyed the discussions with both of them. We have joining us Mary Holland, the CEO of Children's Health Defense. And of course, we're going to talk about why is that we have to defend children against our government? Think about that. They decided that they were going to make our children the victims of corporations who want to make a lot of money and they're going to protect them against any damage that it did to the children. This is at the heart of the issue of what's going on pharmaceutical companies and especially with vaccines.

One of the reasons why I am adamantly anti-vax. We're also going to be talking to Eric Peters. You know, he is in a rural area. They're getting ready to put a data center in up there. So we're going to talk about what we can do about it. And are people going to come together in a common cause and fight the data centers, fight the fly cameras? Can they figure out what is really the agenda of the government? But we're going to begin before we get to our interviews. We're going to talk a little bit about MRNA and various perversions of science and technology

and the fraud involved in this. as well. We'll be right back. Well, I think it's very telling when we look at the various things that they've decided to do. That's one of the things that Eric and I talk about is like, whatever happened to improving cars, whatever happened to improving planes and air travel, everything is being destroyed. And I think the common cause is that it's all being taken over by the government. And they don't have our interests at heart. They have their own interests at heart and they are diabolical in a sense.

And when you look at the military industrial complex, one of the things, things that Eisenhower was warning everybody about was he said all the research is being taken over by the government. What are they going to do with it? Well, they do Frankenstein stuff like this. A new study published in the journal Nature, Stanford University Scientists report how they use genetic engineering to deliberately create mice with parts of their brain missing, namely a key region called the cortex. We're not talking about Alexandria occasional cortex. These mice didn't have any at all. And so they basically, uh, they basically, uh, Leave enough of the brain of the mouse so that it can have the involuntary reflexes to live.

But then the thinking part of it, they put in human brain cells. What could possibly go wrong with that, right? And why would you do something like that? Well, they say that they need to do it for research purposes. The same excuses that they give us for taking aborted babies and doing frankincines with them as well. Researchers use human skin cells, reprogram them, so they would form neurons found in the cortex, the part of the brain that results in our humanness. So let's make the mice more human.

It's absolutely insane. But I said so many times, there isn't any weird science fiction thing or any evil thing that you won't find somewhere a government project that is trying to bring that to life. And so I guess what we're trying to do now is bring pinky and the brain to life. The common thread in all of my failed schemes is human stupidity. People are just too stupid to accept me as their leader. It's too bad you can't make people smarter.

That's brilliant! Cool! It is? Absolutely. Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? Oh, I'd say the odds of that are terribly slim brain. True. I mean, really? When have I ever been pondering what you've been pondering?

To my knowledge, never. Exactly. So, what are the chances that this time I'm pondering what you're pondering? Next to nil. Well, that's exactly what I'm thinking, too. Therefore you are pondering when I'm pondering. Oh, yes, I am. The laboratory mice. The team's hash is mice.

They're dinky. They're pinky and the brain, brain, brain, brain, brain, brain, brain. And so we're there. Because if the government didn't do it, who would, right? We have a secret Pfizer and Eli Lilly deals included tariff protections. Think about that. brings all the different machinations of Donald Trump together all in one deal. Pfizer signed a deal on September 30th of last year, and Eli Lilly followed two months later,

both of them part of the administration's most favored nation. How do you treat a pharmaceutical company like a nation? Well, that's exactly what they do. And of course, Eli Lilly, as I pointed out, one of the most politically connected pharmaceutical companies prior to the COVID, lockdown. That's where Trump went to get his HHS head in the first regime that he had. And of course, that was a guy, Alex Azar, who kicked off the so-called COVID pandemic. But when you look at this, favored nations, yeah, favoritism, doing favors for these corporations, and they do favors for him as well. It's crony capitalism. It is simply corruption folks, these corporate nation states that are

now going to be given exemptions for tariffs. And a lot of this is running through HHS, where RFK Jr. is. This is one of the things I really appreciated about children's health defense. When they disagree with RFK Jr., they pointed out. They're not ashamed to say that. And so they call him out when he does something wrong. They'll applaud him when he does something right. In this particular case, you've got HHS and the Commerce Department, Lutnik, failed to respond to a FOIA request.

This is something we see all the time from government. They never respond to FOIA requests. If you want to get some information from them, first you file the FOIA request. They delay, delay, delay, don't comply. Then you have to file a lawsuit, and that takes years. And then eventually you find out this kind of thing. They said they needed to have the contracts to learn exactly what has been negotiated with Big Pharma. The records that the administration eventually released were, of course, as we've seen over and over again, heavily redacted.

We see this when it happens in the United States. We saw the same things happening when people tried to find out what Ursula fond of lying was doing, calling Albert Borla. What kind of deals did you have? Well, they fought for a long time. Finally, they sent them some documents and they were all blacked out. And if you remember, the people from the European Parliament stood up there were outraged. They said, look, this is what they sent to us.

Well, that's what they always do. And they always keep this stuff hidden. Speaking of keeping stuff hidden, and of course, everything is about, the DNA and we have talked about the PCR tests and how that is something that they've used to pull the wool over people's eyes and I saw this story and I've seen this going around for quite some time the idea that they have proven that Thomas Jefferson fathered children with his slave Sally Hemings this is something's gone around for a long time I remember um she's probably about 40 years ago I was sick at one point and uh Karen stopped by and she got me a book

She knew I'd like to read about Jefferson. So she got me a book that's called An Intimate Portrayal, I think. And if I remember the title correctly is by the author. I think Fawn was her first name. I think last name was Brody. She was not a historian. What she did was she recycled a lot of personal slander, a person who had been a supporter of Jefferson,

then got upset with him for a particular reason, and then turned against him with a vengeance, and started circulating the story. Nobody gave any credence to it at the time. and historians have always poohed that. But then she brought that back up again. And that caught on like wildfire because people wanted to believe it. And, yeah.

Or I recall it was someone from a completely different state that had no personal connection. That's right. He'd never been to Monticello. Yeah, he'd never been there. And he was talking about how, oh, yeah, the children look exactly like him. And all this, elaborated all that stuff. So she picked that up and she ran with it. Of course, Hollywood made a movie.

And it was Nick Nolte, I think, played Jefferson. it's called Jefferson in Paris, and they play up that aspect of it as well. Now the Smithsonian has entered the fray. And again, real historians have discounted this. Look, you can criticize and should criticize Jefferson for the hypocrisy of slavery and for what happened with that. I'm not making any excuses for that. I'm simply pointing out that when we look at a lot of these things, like PCR tests, and this is another one of these things, it's not what it appears to be.

When I started to look at this, they said, well, the Smithsonian's said, we've got a locket of hair that was snipped off of Jefferson. So I looked at that, I thought, can they really prove that? Because what people have said in the past was, we are now, you know, 200 years away. And there's a lot of generations involved. And if you're going to find some genetic similarity, it could have been somebody who was related to Jefferson. It could have been his brother, some other relatives, who were the part of the paternity.

And you can't identify that exactly. So what is really the truth of it? If you go back and look, first of all, you'll find out that this is the first time they've ever used hair that didn't have any follicles attached to it. And the only way they'd get the follicles, supposedly this hair was clipped off on his deathbed. And I don't think that they ripped the hair out of his head. He was laying there dying. So they don't have any follicles, number one. So this is the first time they've done that.

But then when you look at it and you look at how do they actually determine the DNA paternity, I think it's kind of interesting for us to think about some of the things that we've been sold on television. You know, we've got all these CSA TV shows and everything. Everybody's all about DNA tests. Well, the people who do the paternity test for you, they said, we've got two different answers we can come back with. One of them is just for peace of mind. Would you just like to generally know what is going on with this? The other one is something is legally binding, and that's a whole different standard.

And we very rarely have anything that is legally binding. And we're talking about a situation here where you're just one generation removed. I mean, you are the child who is trying to prove paternity, and the person is there. You're not 250 years and, what, 10 generations later. This is the first generation, and it is still difficult to prove paternity. So when you look at this, just understand that so much my point is here that they hype up science in many ways that it cannot be supported and try to impress you just as we saw with Fauci and with all the medical community during 2020, these people will try to bamboozle you and mesmerize you with talk about

science and credentials and it's usually false. And they've usually got some kind of a political agenda there as well. Well, that's all I got to say about it. I want to get to our interviews because we've got quite a bit to cover here. So we're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back. You're listening to the David Knight Show. Joining us now is Mary Holland. She is CEO of Children's Health Defense, and I was just telling her before we ran, I have viewed, as you well know, listening to the program.

I've used the defender, their news articles. I've used that frequently because they are, I think, honest investigators, and they cover things that other people typically don't cover. Now, I like their objectivity, and I like the fact that they are not going to cave in order to appease people who are influencers. When they disagree with RFK Jr., they point out that they disagree with him,

and I really do appreciate that. We can have our differences of opinion and disagreements. We don't have to shill or be sick offense for people, and they aren't. And so we're going to talk about that. And he was just a keynote speaker at Children's Health Defense conference that they just had this last week on September 17th in D.C. And, Mary, you're still on the road, right? I am still on the road.

I left D.C. and came here to Detroit, Michigan and spoke at an integrative physicians conference, which has been great. And I'm heading back to where I live outside New York later this evening. But yeah, we've been accused of being a sycophon. We're not sick offense. We do. We deeply appreciate the hard work that Secretary Kennedy, one of our founders, has done. But we don't agree with everything that he's doing as secretary. And yet we're very delighted that he is in the position that he's in. I do believe there have been some significant changes in the last two years with a focus on what we focus on, the chronic disease epidemic among America's children. This has never gotten attention in recent decades.

And it is a pressing problem for the future of our country, not to mention for all of the families involved. So we are great. And you know, the very name of the organization, Children's Health Defense. Why is it that we don't defend children's health? Why is it that in 1986 we gave big companies a pass in terms of not defending children's health? That's the thing that I just look at, just shake my head. I know. So, you know, you're referencing in 1986, Congress passed the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act,

and its primary goal was really to give liability protection both to vaccine manufacturers and to physicians. And that is a huge perverse incentive. And what we saw happen after 1980. Allegedly they were creating this compensation program that didn't work. Allegedly, they were going to make vaccines safer, but they actually never convened the committee to report to Congress. What it did is basically create terrible, perverse incentives to make a ton of money because you can mandate vaccines historically,

and you don't have to pay for them if there's liability protection, people have to go to a federal compensation program. So honestly, it completely perverted medicine, and we are still getting out of that, but I do believe that we're making some headway at this point in just bringing the truth to people. These products were never properly safety tested, full stop. And that's criminal. That's literally criminal. Children cannot represent themselves.

We, the adults, are responsible. And so we at Children's Health Defense are literally trying to defend children from that really important toxic exposure. It contains aluminum, mercury, live viruses, many other polysorbate 80, formaldehyde, sodium bromate, lots of things that are genuinely known as poisonous substances. And then we look at other things, particularly we're very interested in electromagnetic radiation and big tech in general. Children's lives are so transformed over what you and I had as children. Kids are like holding phones at one, I'm with a 21-year-month-old. This baby is looking at a phone and tablets. All kinds of electronic things.

Living in a Wi-Fi environment, baby monitors, we've got to look at those. And we also look at food, we look at fluoride, we look at the air, we look at the water. We want to have healthy children. We want to have a healthy future for our country and for the world. I agree. Yeah, you know, for the longest time, I wasn't aware of what happened in 1986. It was really the early 2000s that I became aware of it. And when I saw that, I thought, wait a minute, you've given these companies liability protection for something that is potentially very, very dangerous. And imagine if they did that for baby cribs. And yet they focused on children. And And we saw that even more so recently because when you look at the fact that as they wanted to give themselves more legal cover, they had to get these things the temporary emergency authorization that they had.

That gave them protection with the PEP Act. But then if the emergency was going to be removed, they had to get these things part of the children's vaccination schedule. And when I saw that, that was a second really aha moment. It's like, look at that. They're using these kids as a liability shield. Surely is amazing. No, it's horrifying. So the 86 Act was a colossal error by Congress and the 2005 Public Readiness and Emergency

Preparedness Act. In the aftermath of 9-11, when people were so worried about global terrorism, they passed the PEP Act, which truly paved the way for COVID. And the PEP Act gives liability shield on steroids to the government planners, to the the industry that manufactures, all of these products, masks, tests, shots, medicines, and it gives the liability protection to the medical profession. And these things create horrific perverse incentives that we saw absolutely crystal clear during COVID, where literally if somebody died with a COVID diagnosis, even if they died in a motorcycle

accident, the hospital makes money. The family makes money. It was absolutely monetized and militarized. And we still have not had the COVID recognition. that we need to have. You're absolutely right. I remember that case. I was in Houston, I think. The coroner said, you know, when somebody died with a motorcycle guy,

well, it could have been COVID. Yeah, there's a positive PCR test. It's like, what are you talking about? This is absurd. That's right. So, yeah, we. And we see that's still happening again with the measles stuff.

And so my question is, when we look at these things, and RFK Jr. is talking about many, many good things here. But I look at it and over and above the fact that we would like to see, many of us would like to see the COVID shots, not just not mandatory, but just banned because they know how dangerous they are. And so the question is, you know, when is that going to happen? But the other thing that I don't see is I don't see any talk about

the PCR tests and how this is being used because they ramp this stuff up as the creator of it, the inventor of it said you can find anything anywhere. If they find something, they say you died with that. So we're going to count that same as if you died from it. Well, it's very important. points. So Carrie Mullis, the inventor of the PCO, polarized chain reaction test, said, you can, you know, it's never, never was intended for diagnostic purposes. It was to take a small amount of something and then to basically study it at a very deep level and be able to see it more transparently. It's never meant for diagnosis. The quote unquote diagnoses during COVID were ridiculous. It should have been somewhere like 28 to 30 cycles and instead they had it over 40

It was giving false positives all the time. And you're absolutely right that we have to do something about that. Our position at Children's Health Defense is that the COVID shots should not be on the market. We do not believe that the messenger RNA technology has yet been proven safe, sufficient, that you could put it out on a mass basis. So it's not even just the COVID shots. It also is the new flu shots, some of the other things that are under investigation. Cancer shots. Cancer shots are a little different.

I would argue that cancer shots are somewhat different. That's somebody who's facing a fatal disease. Anybody who's facing a potentially fatal disease is in a position to take on a higher level of risk than someone who is perfectly healthy who may or may not ever encounter the disease, let alone have a significant case of it. So I'm not opposed.

We are not opposed to innovation. We're not opposed to informed consent. On the contrary, we completely support informed consent. But the COVID shots, we know the injury and death profile is so significant that those really should never have been approved. And what we know, they made them at the speed of science, they were never tested to stop transmission.

No vaccine should be subject to being mass mandated if it doesn't stop transmission. That's just ludicrous. But that is what we did during COVID. Yes, absolutely. And so I think that's one of the key things that I don't see being addressed. The other one I would say, and of course, RFK Jr. in his book about Fauci did a great job.

I think of in chapter 12, if I remember correctly, was about the germ game. And, and of course, at the inception of all this stuff, you know, the very first one of these germ games was dark winter, two months before 9-11. Then we had the anthrax attacks two months later. They put out the model state legislation. And this is kind of in your area. When we look at the model legislation that was put in place at the state levels to enable them to do to us what they did in 2020, being financially incentivized by the federal government to get around the 10th Amendment. What do we do at the local level to stop this type of thing? Well, two things.

I think those germ games that you're talking about are these astounding simulations that have been done over the last 25 years to literally prepare some of the government planners, some of the people in industry, some of the people in media for how are we going to respond? And Dark Winter was the first that really predicted the anthrax attacks to a T. And the most recent one before COVID was Event 201 that absolutely telegraphed to the powers that needed to know how they wanted COVID to go down. So how do we how do, I'm sorry, I lost my track of thought. The question is, the question is, you know, this is something that has to be addressed really at every state level.

Is there anything that's really happening? I know there's some organizations out there that are focused on that. But, you know, I really do think that your organization, when you focus on single issues and And, of course, you're not just a single issue. You're food, drugs, EMF, and a lot of different things. But it is focusing on these issues one at a time rather than trying to get involved in broad party politics where you get this shopping cart of issues, some of which you'll agree with, some of which you don't agree with. I think it's focusing narrowly on individual issues that's going to get things changed. And I don't really see a movement to try to undo these Model State Emergency Powers Act.

Emergency Powers Act. So let me, yes. So I agree with you that change is, you know, one has to hold the line at the local level. And one of the things that was not publicized, but what we did see during COVID is there were people who called themselves constitutional sheriffs. And there were law enforcement around the country who would not enforce the mandates because they were overtly against the Constitution. There were law enforcement who did not enforce closing down churches or closing down. private businesses. And there were law enforcement that supported private restaurants staying open, churches staying open, and other things, you know, not enforcing a certain number of people who could

meet at any one time. And that's what has to happen. And I think what we did see during COVID was remarkable differences, although, you know, I wish it had been more remarkable, but we did see remarkable differences between what we characterize as blue states and red states. There were big differences. We as a as a charitable organization don't, we don't, we're not a partisan organization. We don't support one party. But we do support all of the law enforcement, the lawmakers who stand for the values that we do. And that is, no, people have bodily integrity. Nobody, not the state, not your doctor, can force you, not at your institution, your job, your dormitory, your college. No, institution should have the right to force you to take any injection, let alone an experimental

one that was made in 10 months. The whole proposition of what happened in 2021 is truly staggering. I mean. These experimental injections were literally forced on the global public. It's mind-boggling what we went through. And we still have not really gotten to the bottom of how did they make that happen? What were the lies that people bought into that would make them do something, frankly, so reckless as to take a gene modification, a gene therapy injection that had been tested for a matter of months? I agree. Yeah, I called it from the very beginning I called it GCI's instead of MRIs, genetic code injection. Because that's what it was. I mean, yeah, exactly. And I think

when we look at this, it's a sort of thing where if we don't go back and look at really what is the proper role of government? And I've said this many times when we talk about free speech, or we're talking about other things, many people will say, and I guess this goes back to Mitt Romney's corporations or people too. I don't see corporations as people. I go back to the Declaration of Independence. I see us as human beings who are endowed by our creator with inalienable rights that the purpose of government is to protect those rights. And I think that means to protect those rights from even a corporation that's going to take them, especially if it's the government that's paying the corporation to try to take away your informed consent

and other human rights. Well, I agree with that completely. I do not see corporations or the government as individuals. We are individuals endowed with our rights by the creator and the job of government is to protect those. And what we saw during COVID and what we see over and over again is some kind of agglomeration of the state and the corporate power, whether it's the state over the corporations, which is communism or it's the corporations over the state, which is fascism. I call what happened during COVID sort of communofascism because it was this new amalgam. But what we saw, what we experienced were these terrifically powerful public-private partnerships that are extremely deleterious. Literally, they were able to completely dominate the media

and almost completely, thank God not completely, but almost dominate the media sphere. And they certainly dominated corporate policy in every, major corporation in the United States. So we don't, you know, I do think that part of the answer here is decentralization. We certainly think that we should have decentralized decisions about our own bodies, but even in our local communities, one of the things that we fight for at Children's Health Defense is that local communities should decide where a cell tower goes. It shouldn't be possible that a cell tower that is going to radiate my home and my children is put 10 feet from my window. And yet that's the world that we're living in right now with these ideas of federal

preemption and these ideas that corporations literally can lobby their way towards liability shields, like what we see for pharma, what was just granted for glyphosate to bear. Those things should not be happening in a world in which individuals are the primary beneficiaries of government. I agree. Yeah. I remember the story. Maybe it was from children's self-defense of the family in New York. and they wake up one morning. There's one of these 5G things right next to the kid's window. And they said, open this up.

They call the city to come do something about it. And they even had a warning label on there. You know, don't get within X number of feet of this thing. Well, you couldn't avoid it in that kid's room. And so the city's response was to come out and to remove the tag, the warning tag,

rather than removing the facility there that was on the pole. Yeah. So typical, isn't it? It is. It is. Well, you know, when I joke about this, all the PPP that you talked about, you know, the private public partnership. I said referring to the outlawed at L's line, when they say PPP, you know, they're going to be PPPing down your back and telling you it's raining. But that's what we see over and over again from these.

Let me ask you, how did you get involved with children's self-defense? I've talked to Dr. Hooker. He got involved, I think, because his child had autism. What is your history? Did you have anything like that in your family? Very similar. Yeah, very similar. I have a young adult son who regressed after getting his safe and effective childhood vaccines like

Brian Hooker's son. My son was in the generation of children who got several mercury-containing shots before they got live viruses. And my son regressed. He lost all of his developmental milestones. He lost the ability to speak. He lost the ability to control his muscles. He started drooling. He couldn't eat, although he'd been able to do that. And it took years to recover his speech. you know, he is permanently damaged by what happened with his vaccines. I'm a lawyer by training and I looked at the liability shield and I looked at the recklessness of the medical profession and I was shocked. I grew up in a medicalized world.

Both my parents were physicians. Two of my uncles were physicians. I have nothing against doctors. But when I realized how reckless this program was, I truly felt an obligation to educate the world. Like, this is insane. This is child abuse. This is institutionalized child abuse.

You cannot have a one-size-fits-all program with poisonous chemicals that you inject into babies and think that it's a good thing. And it's going to end well. It's ending terribly. Over half of America's kids have some kind of chronic health condition, whether it's asthma or allergies or ADHD or autism or diabetes. It's crazy. Like, why are we doing this?

This is insane. Yeah. My son has autoimmune. and they got it from vaccines. And so it is a sadder but wiser situation that we look at. We just hope that we can stop this type of thing. And at least now there's enough awareness that he's able to get his son to a physician who, and they have to do it on a basically a subscription basis because of the pressure

put on the pediatricians by the insurance companies and by the formal institutions, the Academy of Pediatrics, and they put so much pressure. on the pediatricians that they'll shut your practice down. If you don't do vaccines, you get a certain percentage time. It truly is a racket. It's amazing. It is a racket. So we have a lawsuit right now against the American Academy of Pediatrics,

and we are accusing them of civil racketeering because this is a racket. They literally basically force all the pediatricians to belong. And if the pediatricians don't follow the AAP CDC schedule, they are, you know, they're basically persona. is non grata, right? They will not be able to have a successful product. So you're right. One of the workarounds is kind of a concierge medical practice, but it's a racket. Basically, this schedule is sort of held up as if they know it's safe and effective. We know it's not safe and effective. We know that literally children can die from it. Children can be permanently injured by it.

And they essentially gaslight people to say, no, no, no, that's all in your head. Oh, it had nothing to do with the shots that your kid got a half an hour before. It's ludicrous. And I think the myth, the mythology around this is falling apart. It's taken too long. It always does. But the mythology is falling apart. And I think the science is becoming more transparent. And the truth wins out. That's my view. The truth will win out. And the truth here is very clear that these products are not helping our children. There are quite a few vaccinated versus unvaccinated studies, the most recent one with 20,000 children and the results are very consistent that the vaccinated children have a much, much higher likelihood of chronic conditions, be it allergic rhinitis and autoimmune conditions or neurological

conditions. And that is just unacceptable that we would be subjecting our children to brain injury. It's just unacceptable. I agree. Yes. There was a case here in Tennessee where over a custody issue, the judge was very pro-vaccine. He agreed to give custody to whichever parent would catch up on the vaccines on their child. And so they caught up on all three of them, except for the daughter who had already had a bit of an issue. They gave it to her in stages, but they gave the two younger boys all them at once.

They both went into intensive care. After a few days, one of them came out, but the other one's in for much longer. He's now so severely autistic, he's in a diaper. And so there's no question that if you give a massive amount of this stuff, and that's why I think it's a very positive thing to say we're going to space out the vaccines,

maybe even separate them. I find it interesting that the pharmaceutical companies are saying, well, if we separate the MMR vaccine, that means we've got to go through the approval process. And they can take a decade. Yeah. I mean, we're very supportive that the president and Secretary Kennedy came out August 10 with an executive order to say, we want to maximize parental rights. We want the attorney general to go after the states that are not really permitting religious

exemptions and maximal parental authority. And yes, we should be having a very very. Mises, mous, rubella shots separately. We should be looking at the timing and the sequence of these shots. We should be looking at all of these things. We should be looking for reducing aluminum. We should be looking at getting mercury completely out. We're very grateful for this attention at the highest executive level in the country.

It's long overdue, frankly. I agree. Now, that's the positive stuff. Let's talk a little bit about the vaccine mandates that are coming back in the Navy. And they've got January 15th, if I understand it, is the deadline for all the Navy personnel to be vaccinated. this is coming just a couple of months after HECSeth was so proud of the fact that they were going to welcome back anybody who had been kicked out because they wouldn't take the vaccines that are being mandated for them that were MRNA. And here we're looking at an MRNA flu shot. It's basically the same thing as the COVID vaccine.

Well, I don't know that that's quite accurate. So the MRNA flu shot that has been approved by the FDA, I'm not a fan. That is for people 50 and above. So I do not believe at the moment that what would be mandated for people in the Navy is an MRNA flu shot. It would be a more traditional flu shot. We do not support any mandates. I don't believe, I do believe that Secretary Hegseth is sincere in believing that there must be

religious exemptions, there must be accommodations, and in trying to bring back so many of the thousands of people who were discontinued during COVID. I think this is a very, it's a very serious area. There is a very important investigation going on right now between Secretary Kennedy, Secretary Hegseth, to look at what happened in terms of deaths from the COVID injections. So I believe this is an area that may, we may say significant change before we get to January and the mandate.

But it is troubling. We produced a film that I highly recommend to your viewers that is on Roku, and it is called duty to disobey. We believe absolutely strongly that the law prohibited the mandate of emergency use authorization injections to the military. There must be black letter law. There must be a presidential waiver before the military can mandate an emergency use authorization product.

But what they did, what Secretary Lloyd Austin did, was to mandate EUA shots. And that was simply illegal. And there's actually a current lawsuit against the doctor in the military that did that. And I think that's very important. And the evidence suggests that thousands of young recruits, thousands of people in the military died from the COVID injection. So I believe that this is an area that is subject to significant change in the near term. Yeah.

And of course, I always think when I think of the military and injections, I remember going back 60 minutes, expose that was done on the swamp. flu and that was when Wallace was there and he, Mike Wallace and they had subjected that to the military and they had somebody who died of flu and they said it

was from the flu shot. And the woman that he was interviewing at the time who had Guillain Bray syndrome that was really severe and debilitating had crippled her. She said, well, I looked at this and I thought, well, if these soldiers are dying from this swine flu, I better get my vaccine to protect me from

that. But of course, we've seen, even if it a traditional flu shot. That was one of the shots that had prior to COVID. I think it had the most number of incidents in the Bears database. Maybe I'm wrong about that. Well, what's really important about the example that you cite is that, you know, first of all, CBS and Mike Wallace in 60 minutes covered it in depth. And after about, you know, somewhere about 40 deaths, they pulled the H1N1 vaccine. The swine flu vaccine was taken off the market. The government said, oh my gosh, we have to compensate the people who did get Guillambore who died. And that was basically the end of the story. That led to this 1986 act, in fact. But the truth is that that was after 40 people. We're now looking at over

40,000 people who have been reported to have died to the vaccine adverse event reporting system. We know that that is a vast undercount of the numbers who've actually died. And yet, because I think of these incredible perverse incentives, it doesn't stop the program. It is astonishing the level of death and injury that we have that has not turned things around. I'm very excited Senator Ron Johnson, whom we just honored last Thursday night. He's holding a forum this a week from the next Monday, September 28th in Washington, D.C., to really investigate the hospital protocols that also were perversely incentivized to harm people and to kill people. And hospitals were compensated for that. And we have to look at this really dark agenda very with clear eyes or we will just repeat it again.

I agree. Yeah, I remember it was very clearly. It was August of 2021 in the American Hospital Association. I call it my aha moment. When I saw, they were complaining, they said, wait a minute, you're not giving us our 20% bonus because we don't have the PCR test documentation. You told us you didn't have enough test. And he told us that they didn't work. So you said, just do a clinical. diagnosis and we would collect our money. Now you're saying you're not going to pay us a bonus. It truly is amazing. But what you said before was they were bribing everybody, even the families of people who had been killed in the hospitals. Yeah. And don't forget, you know, they were bribing kids, you know, we'll give you college tuition. You'll get a free hamburger. You'll get a free joint. I mean, what kind of medicine do you have to bribe people to take, right? I mean,

that opened a lot of people's minds. You might win a million dollars in a lottery. Of course, that was a Republican governor who did that, DeWine in Ohio. That's a, I, I, I talked to people about this, even back then, they say, oh, it's not Trump. It's just the bad Democrat governors. And it's like he's paying them to do this. It has been a real wake-up moment for a lot of people. A lot of people have not awakened to this yet. And as I said, it's been years that I didn't know anything about the 1986 Act.

And as soon as I saw that, you can't unsee that. I think that's the real issue. You can't unsee it. That's exactly right. You can't unsee that. And when you understand that there is no government incentive to do the right thing, you know, that's got to change. Tell us a little bit about your conference that you just had last week. Of course, the keynote speaker was RFK Jr.

A guest of honor that night was Senator Ron Johnson. You had other people that I've interviewed in the past, Andrew Wakefield, people I have a great deal of respect for it were there. Brian Hooker was speaking. You had about 14 or 15 speakers, and it was just one day conference. Tell us a little bit about that. Well, we wanted to showcase some of the good work that is being done in Washington, D.C., in the administration in Congress. We couldn't have said that five years ago for sure, and we really couldn't have said that 15 years ago, that there were several people whose work we thought was really aligned with our mission, which is to end the epidemic chronic childhood disease.

So we were very blessed to have Senator Johnson, Senator Rand Paul, who's really fighting on the sort of gain of function bio-weapons front. Congressman Tom Massey, Secretary of HHS, Robert Kennedy, Andrew Wakefield, Sayer G, the founder of GreenMed Info, and then staff from Children's Health Defense to talk about, and other people in the media, Jan Yackelik of Epic Times, to talk about what we encountered in the censorship arena during COVID, how we've tried to overcome that. What are the things that we're going to need to do? And then what we do at Children's Health Defense and what are the bills that these people in Congress are putting forward and for Kennedy, what he has done and what he hopes to do. And, you know, I think in reality,

he's done a small fraction of what he hopes to accomplish before he leaves that office. But it seemed to me quite clear that he is very committed to staying in that office and continuing to fight. I mean, he said so much. And then we honored Senator Johnson because truly there's no one in Congress who has cared more deeply about the plight of the people who were injured by the COVID injections and by the COVID protocols that were put in place. He deeply cares about that. That's why he ran for a third term. And we were very, we were very grateful to have the opportunity to honor that work that he's done.

I agree. Yeah. It's amazing to me that nobody, that people just turn a cold shoulder to this type of stuff. And it really is, it's like, how do you do that? How do you just, how do you sleep at night when you do something like that? I mean, that's what he said. It's like, one, you can't unsee this. How can you be a decent person and think it's okay to,

force people to take injections that kill them. I don't understand it. I think it's money. I think it seems to be the root of all evil. The love of money seems to be the root of all evil. Tell us a bit about, since you're kind of on your backgrounds as a lawyer, tell us a little bit about some positive bills that you see being introduced, either at the federal level or at the state level. What kind of initiatives do you see in the works? Sure. Well, I think at the state level, we are big fans of the bill that passed in Idaho, the Health Freedom Act, which basically said that people get to make up their own minds. There does not need to be a religious exemption.

There does not need to be a medical exemption. It's up to you. And the opt-out rate for childhood vaccination in Idaho is 15%, the highest in the country. We think that that is likely to promote better health among children. At the federal level, we wanted to showcase some of the work that's being done. So for Senator Paul, he has endorsed in the Senate and the vaccine carve out. So the 86 Act railroads people into this compensation program that doesn't work. And this bill and the vaccine carve out would allow people, not force them, but it would allow

them to go to civil litigation against the manufacturers, against the doctors, which I think is absolutely necessary. That will diminish the perverse incentives. Also, Senator Johnson is certainly doing really important work in terms of investigations of what really happened during COVID. But Congressman Massey has really made available the Epstein files. We do believe that those Epstein files are very important documents about how the deep state really works. And there's four million more records that need to be released.

And we support what Congressman Massey is doing to try to get those available. We are going to be publishing a book in November, which is called Shadow Empire. And it's really about how Jeffrey Epstein was in the thick of everything COVID. How was it financed all of the people? pandemic preparedness sort of ventures are deep public-private partnerships. And Epstein was all over them. So we do think that there's some good work being done in Congress, and we wanted to support that.

Unfortunately, Congressman Lance Gooden was unable to be there, but he was going to be talking about pushing back against some of this federal preemption by the Federal Communications Commission, basically disallowing local communities from making decisions about where electromagnetic towers are being situated. Yes. And of course, that was a bill that was about, wasn't that 1996? The telecommunications act? Yeah. So the telecom act, and we have a legislative initiative called 704 no more. Section 704 says the telecom industry has federal preemption. You know, you cannot sue for health effects of federal towers. Like, so insane. And we've got to end that. Right. I mean, again, that's not just saying corporations are on the par with people.

It's saying corporations literally have rights above people. Same thing for the 86 Act with pharma. That cannot be the right outcome. Yeah, we've had situations where because it's easy for them to get approval, they would go to a school area and put up cell phone towers. And that concentration and proximity would cause cancer clusters with the children that were there. And to me, it was amazing. is another one of these issues with the Telecom Act of 1996.

It's another one of these issues where we're going to just do whatever we want and we're going to focus this on kids. One of the things that they had in it was they said, you can object to a telecommunications tower on the basis of aesthetics, but not on the basis of... Aesthetics or property value, but not help. I mean, it boggles the mind. It boggles the mind.

That tells you it's about money, doesn't it, right there? That's where you follow the money with all this stuff. What about the state levels other than Idaho? Have you seen anything at state levels that is encouraging in terms of repealing some of the groundwork that's been laid over the last two to three decades in terms of setting up the authority for this? Well, I think the leading state during COVID without question was Florida. I think Governor DeSantis did not drink the Kool-Lade. He allegedly called Deborah Burke's head of the COVID. Commission. And he said, has this ever been done before locking down a, you know, a whole country-air state

to end the public health emergency? And she said, no. And he said, well, I'm not running this experiment in my state. And the Surgeon General, Joe Latipo, has been just stellar. And I think that they did not lock down the state. We know that they had lower levels of deaths and serious cases of COVID than other states. And they have really, I think, to great extent, worked with the health freedom community to ensure religious exemptions, medical exemptions, and to have a state that really prioritizes individual rights around health. Not to say that it's perfect, but I think unquestionably, Florida has been at the forefront. Oh, that's good. That's good. Yeah, you know, we talked about the difference between different states and, of course, Illinois was pretty bad.

but I remember interviewing a local pastor who had gone in defiance of the governor there. The governor, Pritzker, in Illinois, was one of the first ones to say, I'm going to use the state police to shut you down if you don't shut down your churches and lock everything up. He said, well, the local sheriff here has said that that's not going to be allowed, and he actually sent his officers out there to protect the church to make sure it wasn't going to be shut down. And so that's an example, I think, of why it's so important at the local. Yeah, the sheriffs, like you were saying. Absolutely. That's what we're saying like these constitutional sheriffs.

And I think there was much more of that than, you know, was publicized. But those people were very important who made their own decisions. They're elected officials. And I said, this is not consonant with the Constitution, which, of course, it was not. And I'm very grateful to those people who, you know, stood in the breach and resisted this authoritarian tendency that swept the world. I agree. And I want to say to you, I'm very grateful that you stood in the breach, along with

with Children's Health Defense. I thank you so much for the information that you put out there and the hard work that you have done. It's made a difference. I really do think it has. And I hope that you keep this up and I'm sure that you will. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you so much for having me.

Thank you. You're listening to the David Knight Show. All right. Joining us now is Eric Peters of Eric Peters Auto.com and I think autos.com. Always great to have Eric on. and we're going to talk a little bit about where we are at this point in time. Let me open it up this way, Eric. I just saw a clip from Bill Burr, the comedian, and he put it in a way that I think will open a lot of people's eyes to see what's going on.

He said, they're not putting this stuff in, all these cameras to watch everything that we're doing all the time. He said, they're not putting that in because of what you or I are doing. He said they're putting that in because of what they're about to do. Correct. And that's it. You know, we always talk about it's like, if you build this structure, the criminals will come. But we don't have to wait for the criminals to come. We don't have to say, well, you know, if the Republicans build this out, the Democrats are going to come in, they're going to use it.

Of course, that is true. But it's the fact is the people who are putting this stuff in place are the bad guys who are going to use it right away. Yeah, absolutely. And there does seem to be a mad rush to get this up and running as quickly as possible. I saw a staff that as recently as 2024 that were virtually no flock cameras outside of a few. few urban areas in the United States. And now they're practically everywhere. And in tandem with that, these data centers that are just being bums rushed hurriedly. Every small town has to have a data center. And it makes me wonder, don't people ask why? What is the agency? What exactly, what good purpose

is there for these data centers so that we can get streaming Netflix faster? I don't have any problem getting streaming Netflix. What is it facilitating? It's so blatantly obvious that this is all about having the capacity to just vacuum up and hoover every last bit of data about us in real time by the cameras and use that as leverage against us in a way that's almost unimaginable. The closest thing to it existed in the former Soviet satellite countries like East Germany. And I mentioned before in other radio programs I've done. There's a really excellent movie called The Lives of Other People, The Lives of Others. It's a German language film.

Are you familiar with it? No, I'm not. It's about the East German Stasi. It's harrowing, you know, to get a glimpse into that system. And that was an analog system. Yeah. That was back in the days before they had access to this technology. And they were able to micromanage every last thing that everybody did in that country.

And it gives you a sense of what life will be like in this country when this system is enabled and comes online. Well, let's talk a little bit about what it does to people. As a matter of fact, I have an interesting story. It's not the movie. I didn't see that movie, but there was a story, a woman who was an American, and she loved the idea of communism, and she decided that she would go to East Germany, and she loved it so much she married a guy there and decided to stay there.

Well, that was very suspicious to the Stasi, because they're looking at this and it's like, who would really want to live here? So immediately there's something wrong with this picture, because they know what the place is about, right? So they're all about watching her. And she said, when she talked about what it was like to live there, she said, you'd have neighbors who are so nice to you unless you went to the butcher shop where they worked.

And at that point where they got a little bit of power, boy, they just wielded on it. You know, it's like the TSA experience, right? And then she said she was so disappointed after they, the East Germany fell, they were able to get the papers. And she saw that all of her neighbors were informing. on her. And it was just so disillusioning for her to realize that that was the case. But they don't need, they can take the human element out now. And they can do that with AI. And when I look at AI, to me, the use case is all about government. You know, it really is all about creating this omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, godlike beast that they want to create. And they keep referring to it as God,

we ought to believe them because that's really what they're trying to create is a Godlike system. But it's interesting. Trump literally referred to it as a super superior intelligence. Yeah. Basically, all but things are God. Right. Exactly. That's what it's going to be. A fascinating aspect of this to me is that it's the first instance that I'm aware of of the privatization of tyranny. You know, in school analog regimes, they had to deal with, you know, bearing the expense of lining people up in front of dishes and shooting them, maintaining the gulags, cost money. You know, one of the reasons that the Soviet Union fell apart was because they went broke, you know, basically trying to imprison everybody and control everybody all the time. Well, some evil person figured out,

why don't we offload this to the private sector, so-called? And we'll have them, we'll have them perform this authoritarian stuff for us. And the very people that were tyrannizing will pay for it. You know, we'll move to the private sector to fleece and tyrannize the population. It's incredible. It reminds me of Brazil, Terry Gilliams movie, where, you know, they have the wrong person,

and they break in with this big SWAT team thing, which in 1984 when you did it, it was so over the top, but now we do that on a regular basis. And so they put him in a bag, they put a bag over his head and zip it up, and they hand the paperwork to the woman and said, this is your receipt from my receipt,

and you'll be charged for the interrogation, that type of thing. But, you know, Eric, there was an element of that in Hitler's fascism, where he said, you know, the difference, he called himself a socialist, and of course Stalin called himself a socialist. socialist. But we're supposed to believe that socialism is not communism or a form of it, right? But anyway, he said the difference between us is that Stalin is going to take over the factories

and things that he can run all this stuff. I'm going to let these guys run the factories themselves. And then when it's all done, then I'll take it over. And so there's that fascist element that has always been there, but never to this extent. And never did they make this amount of money. But this is something we saw developing also in China. I mean, we look at China. You don't have a factory there unless you give them your trade secrets and you give membership to some of the party functionaries that are there. But I think it's kind of interesting as she is visiting America. Did you see what Trump did? I mean, he loves these dictators everywhere. And did you see what he did? He went out and met the plane. Oh, I missed it. I guess I had a big enough dose watching his

speech at the UN on Tuesday. I haven't seen. It was surreal listening to him. Also with the kind of that, you know, the weird like gripping of the podium and the strange ticks and just situations that he does. Yeah. While he's grunting and squealing about, you know, and nagging them all. I don't even know what to say about it.

And pausing for applause when there wasn't any. But you're right. You know, it's essentially they're modeling what they've done in China. They're trying to attempt to bring, bring that over here. here. And it's happening so quickly, I think that a lot of people are just overwhelmed by it and we don't know what to do about it. Though I do think there is, you know, there's some pushback and that's good, particularly in rural areas where the local politicians have sold out to these big companies and are just buying up land and voicing these data centers on people. In my area that's

happening, you know, I'm outside of Roanoke in southwest Virginia and there's a hullabaloo going on here because there's a large tract of land that was apparently sold to some company that's going to put up a data center. And Politico have an NDA with this company. So they're not saying anything about what the name of the company is. That should be criminal. Yeah. And there was a public meeting where people came to, you know, to ask questions about it. And of course, they were just completely ignored, dismissed, so much for democracy, so much of the people. If you look at any, any poll, nobody want most people don't want this. So why is it that it's happening? It's like the war. The war, two-thirds of the people don't want this war. And yet here we are. Yeah, forget about democracy.

We don't have that anymore. As a matter of fact, there was a, I saw an interesting comment from Trump. Everything that he's doing right now, he's all about his projects, you know, putting gold on on everything or militarizing everything. You know, he's got this elaborate golden arch that he wants to put up. I guess he loves McDonald's so much. But, uh, Anyway, he puts this thing up, and so he's got a militarizer with drones and snipers and all the rest of the stuff. And somebody said to him about one of his projects. I said, that doesn't pass code, what you want to do there. And he said, I am the code.

Right. Right? Straight out of Judge Dread, right? I am the law. He's apparently in the process of physically demolishing the Kennedy Center, too, from what I gather. Yeah. Because, you know, they had the temerity to take down his gilded name. from the side that he had a fix to it.

And as far as this triumphal arch, you know what it reminds me of, you're probably familiar with this. Hitler had this grandiose model of, you know, the world capital, Germania, you know,

that he had laid out in his, in the chancellor where he would go with his flunkies to look at it. And they had this enormous, you know, domed thing in the center of it. And there was a triumphal arch, very much like the one Trump,

this brutalism, this gigantism to the ego of one man, you know, and we're seeing it, we're seeing it, percolate upward again in the person of a guy who's just a lout, a clown. Yeah. And look at how he, look at the people that he respects. The only leaders that he respects that he's very deferential to him, we saw it was she. The only people that he

respects are these authoritarian dictators. He likes Xi, he likes Putin, he likes Duterte, Kim Jong-un. As a matter of fact, Duterte, I remember talking about that in his first regime. He was, of course, he remember Duterte was president. of the Philippines. And he told his police force, he said, look, we're going to stop drugs. And if you see somebody think doing drugs, you have my permission, just shoot him right on the spot. And they did. You know, same kind of stuff that Trump is doing in Venezuela with the ships that are down there, right? And Trump just thought he was great. And I said, do you realize how dangerous this is? He loves this. He thinks this is a great idea. And he, you know,

he likes Kim Jong-un. He gets along better with Kim Jong-un than he does leaders from any of the other Western countries. He really loves, and I think it's because he kind of envies and wants to project himself in that kind of power. He loves people who rule as dictators. And that's exactly what he does. He has the power, and he's figured this out. He's got the power to declare a phony emergency and then rule by executive order and dare people to stop him. And it takes a while to stop him. He's a callous and brutal man. And I marvel at the naivete of some of his support who were okay with what he was doing in Venezuela, okay with this summary execution of people.

Maybe they were involved in, I don't know, trafficking drugs. Maybe, who knows? There was no due process. They just blew people out of the water just because they were there. Well, if he's going to do that to the Venezuelans, what would stop him from doing that to people here in this country? I know. I remember when this stuff all broke out, Alex Jones was cheering at.

He thought this is great. Look at how strong we are. And when you look at the criminal actions there, as I pointed out, even if these people had done what they accused them of, that is not a capital offense. When they stop boats because I think they got drugs on them, 25% of the time, they don't, as Rand Paul pointed out. But if they find the drugs on them, they don't line everybody up on the side of the ship and summarily execute them. And you certainly don't do that. One incident that is beyond appalling of the boat was shot up and the guys were bobbing in the water. are clearly helpless at that point.

Yeah. And they just, they just killed them. Yeah. You know, this is the sort of thing that at one time appalled Americans, you know, back in the 70s, when Lieutenant Calle massacred the village in Vietnam, you know, that was considered a war crime. That was considered egregious. But Americans have lost their moral senses. They don't care.

It's, it's, and it's, and if they think that this isn't going to come around and bite them on the butt, they are delusional. And it used to be considered infamy to start a war when you've not been attacked. That's the other aspect of what is happening with all of this stuff. But, you know, Eric, it really is, as I see it, is it's a perfect storm because we've got not only these surveillance centers going in everywhere. And I think one of the use cases for it is going to be to process digital currency so they can have a permission-based society when it comes to financial transactions. I think that's a big part of it. But they're putting these things in everywhere.

They're going to be spying on everything that we do, turning into a permission-based society. And at the same time, rolling out digital ID for everything, because that's also very much required for a permission society. And then Trump has created this Trump force of thugs that he calls ICE. And just, I don't know if you followed this or not, just in the last few days, we had a guy in Austin. Yeah, he was an illegal immigrant, but they shot him in the back. He wasn't the guy they were looking for, but they shot him in the back.

They didn't give him any medical attention. Instead, they haul him off to detention center, throw him on the floor. He sleeps there overnight, and they never even called anybody to take the bullet out of him. I mean, this is unbelievable. I remember when these first ice killings of American protesters happen in up north of Minnesota. And I played clips of law enforcement officers who were complaining about the way they were engaging with the public. And one of the things they talked about, they said, you know, look, if you've got somebody, even if it's a criminal who's been shooting at us, and maybe hit one of the law enforcement officers, we still do everything we can to give the medical care.

Not these guys in ice. I mean, not only did they shoot that guy in the back and just leave him there, but they also, in Michigan, somebody that ran from them, they killed him with a car. And then you look in Chicago, basically the same type of thing. They see a guy that looks like a foreigner to them. They demand his papers, and he's like, who are you? I'm an American citizen type thing.

And they took him down the ground and beat him to a pulp as a gang. and all these people gather around and we're filming it because nobody wants to try to get involved and stop because they're so dangerous. And when they get finished, they realize as they're doing, I guess somebody's running his biometrics or something, and figured out that he was an American citizen. So they left him alone, but they just left him laying there bleeding on the sidewalk. And these other people call the police and the police show up and, you know, they help him and they get information about who these guys are and so forth and get medical care for him. but the people that Trump is doing in terms of the ICE and Border Patrol people, he is setting up not only a federal police force, which you never want to have,

but he is also training them to be the most ruthless, thuggish, callous people that you can imagine. And that, I think, is a big part of it. And, of course, when you look at the Border Patrol, that includes about a third of the U.S. population. Maybe it's two-thirds. I forget which it is, because it's 100 miles inside of the border. So it includes most of the people on the East Coast, includes all of Florida, for example. And within that area, Border Patrol can do whatever they wish. We just have the Second Circuit Court say, if you want to seize their phones, you can.

That's not covered by the Fourth Amendment because your phone is property. It's like, wait a minute, has the Second Circuit Court ever read the Fourth Amendment? It specifically talks about being left alone in terms of your person, your house, your papers, and your effects. And everybody agreed that what effects meant were property that was movable. It was real property, but it was different from like real estate, right? And so it was property that was movable. It was things like your business records and things. It's exactly what a cell phone is.

You couldn't get a better example of effects than a cell phone. But, of course, just ignore it. Sure, absolutely. You know, we should have known that trouble was brewing on the second day of Trump's current term. You remember when he had that press conference announcing Stargate with Ellison and Altman and the Chinese guy. I can't remember what his name was. And I remember thinking at the time, well, this is strange. So, you know, here's this MAGA guy, you know, who was talking about securing the border and lowering the cost of living and energy prices and, you know, making the country great again, blah, blah, blah.

And he's got these, these creepy tech guys here talking about. And, you know, I mean, it was just, they telegraphed it, brought, you know, right in your face and here we are. And clearly, you know, the intent of this is to not only control us after the fact, but before the fact. Do you hear people talk about the chilling effect on the First Amendment? That's an old term. Well, this is going to be a chilling effect on everything. And Matt, try to envision the world. Like, let's say we had COVID too.

And, you know, they tell you you you're locked down. And you know that if you leave your house, they're going to know immediately. You know that if you do anything that you're not supposed to be doing, they're going to know immediately. They can flag you, get you, punish you immediately. There's no wiggle room. There's no nothing. Well, most people are just going to bow their heads and along with it. They don't want to have any trouble.

That's right. Yeah, I remember when that happened as well. Oh, this is really bad. Look at this. He's starting, he's picking up right where he left off of, MRNA, right? And we're going to custom design this for you with artificial intelligence. It's like, okay, yeah. And oh, by the way, so they'd war game this out, Eric.

They were talking about power, right? Well, the grid's not strong enough. You're not to do your own power and so forth. on. They had run through all of this stuff and they were rolling it out right there. I mean, it is a long-term plan. And like Bill Burr said, you know, it's not about what we're doing. It's about what they're planning to do to us. And they know how we're going to react. And so they've got to get there first. And that's a very dark thought. Yeah. You know, it may actually account for what otherwise seems to be a completely inexplicable mad rush to have this war. You know, not necessary. Well, maybe it was

necessary because maybe the necessity is to collapse the economy. I agree. And then, you know, to impose all of this stuff in the name of national security because people will be desperate. You know, people will not be able to feed themselves. People will not be able to heat their homes. We're, you know, getting close to winter now. You know, this is something that could have mass upheaval. So how are you going to control the masses when the upheaval happens? Well, there you go. You know, they're setting up the architecture for that. I agree. Yeah, I've said many times, times in the show, I think Trump's a one-man fourth turning. Last fourth turning we have was

the Great Depression in World War. And I think that is his purpose in all this. And he really doesn't care if we agree with it. I mean, he's even got the few people that are still cheerleading for him as terms of podcasters that are out there are all calling for him to enact martial law to control the elections when it comes this next midterm election. So, yeah, I mean, he's just, he feels like he can do anything and he dares you to stop him. And he really does. doesn't care about the, he said over and over again, we should take him at his word. He said over and again, he really doesn't care about inflation and the cost of gas. It's worth it to him because he's got this other agenda. And I think we're starting to see why that agenda is. Sure, absolutely.

Well, while we look at this, let's talk about your other article here that we got here. Things you'll need to learn to do. I think that is the key issue. I think when they turn this, create this permission society, it's going to be the skills that we have and the ability, as much as we've got to get outside the system. Nobody's going to be able to escape it completely. But to be able to escape it enough to have something of a life, I think, is the key. Tell us a little bit about what you got in your article here. Well, sure. Let me preface it by saying, you know, it's, it's demoralizing to focus on all these things that are being done to us, to take control away from us, to make us feel helpless, to make us feel as if there's no hope. So I think it's important to try

to think about things that are positive that we can do to kind of recapture. some control over our lives. And I got to thinking about, you know, I've had a lot of people ask me, well, you know, I really don't want one of these new cars that has the eye movement monitors and that has, you know, that has ads that pop up on touchscreens that is mining my data and trying to assist me and control how I drive. But I'm not really very technical as far as mechanical things. I don't know how to fix stuff.

I'd like to get an older car, but I'm a little intimidated about getting a car, an analog car in particular, which would be a car made for the early 80s. That's how far you have to go back to get a car that doesn't have a computer at all of any kind. It's still a mechanical machine. So I thought, you know, it might be, it might be worth explaining to people that they're actually not that difficult to keep up. In fact, in some ways, they're easier because they don't generally require a lot of expensive components or equipment. Mostly it's just patience and reading a manual and some very basic hand tools. And that's kind of empowering. You know, it's true. Modern. cars tend to run reliably without problems for a pretty long time before something goes wrong.

But when something does go wrong, they just fritz out. You're stuck. You're not going to fix it by the side of a road. You're going to have to call a truck. I agree. Yeah. I just saw a video of a guy who was talking about, he was a mechanic. He had the car up on a rack. And he had identified the problem with the transmission. He called up, and forget the make of the car. But he called on. Nissan, I think you're talking about it. Yeah. And they would not sell him the parts. Yes. They got a whole new transmission. I'm not going to sell you this individual part that could be changed, replaced on there. You've got to buy a whole new transmission. And we're not going to give it to you. A lot of these parts on these late model vehicles, and I'm talking about basic things like

headlight assemblies, windshield wiver motors, power window switches. Even if you get the correct factory part, and even if you install a thing correctly, it may not work because it has to be paired. That's the term with the car's ECU. It's brain. And unfortunately, most people can't do that on their own. You have to typically go to a dealer because the dealer has the proprietary equipment to plug the car in and get it so that it recognizes the new part. And of course, you're going to pay for the privilege. And a lot of these parts are so exorbitantly expensive. It's almost impossible to believe it until you actually look it up. I'll give you an example. A couple of weeks ago, I had a Ford F-250 to test drive, and I was talking about it with

a friend of mine who's a professional mechanic. And he said, do you know how much it costs to replace one of the headlight assemblies on this thing. And I said, no, I'm offhand. I don't. And he told me $800. Wow. One cracked plastic headlight assembly, because it's no longer just a headlight. You know, it contains sensors and it's part of the whole system. You know, it has auto-leveling and all these other things. So it's a very, very expensive piece of equipment. Now, you know, go back to an analog car. I have an analog car, my 76 Trans Am. It has glass sealed beam headlights. If one cracks or burns out, I can go down to the next. Napa store. And for $25, I can buy a brand new headlight and I can plug it in in five minutes,

not even that long, super easy, just close. I'm just thinking maybe what I need to have as a horse. A horse is not a bad. I mean, if you've got the acreage, actually, I've thought about that too. Now, horses are expensive to keep up as well. Yeah. Then you're going to have to get a fair air and all of that. But there are less, less expensive ways to get around. And they do eat like a horse. They do eat like a horse. The metaphor is not there for, uh, And it's there for a good reason. They do eat like that. But yeah, if you've got a place for them to graze or something, it'd probably be a good thing to do.

We've talked in the past when we were in Texas, we'd come across occasionally when we're looking for a house, we would come across some donkeys, some burrows. And they were actually pretty amusing and very, very friendly, friendlier than the horses that I've met. And the problem was we thought about getting them. But because we wound up, we had some properties about five acres. But we did not get a borough because what we read about the ones that they really don't like dogs. They think they're coyotes. And they act like they attack them.

Like there's some kind of a guard animal or something. So I was like, well, that's not compatible. In my area, a lot of people around here have burrows because, you know, they're excellent at protecting the cattle. That's chiefly what people get them for because of the coyotes and so on and other predators. But they're pretty low maintenance. and they're pretty fun. They're intelligent like horses and you get to know them. And my buddy has got three of them.

And he brings them candy canes. They love that. You know, they know they're going to get a candy cane when he, you know, he makes a certain sound and they'll come trotting up to the fence line to get their candy canes. Yeah.

Well, we were strangers, but just, they just liked people and we would be out somewhere looking at something. They'd come trotting up to the edge of the thing and begging almost like a dog. But we do have dogs. And so that's, I guess, the issue that is, Got us concerned about it.

But Lance says, well, the cost of gas riding rising, feeding a horse might soon be the cheaper option. I think so, probably. Especially, you know, if you've got a wagon, the wagon will be a lot less expensive to fix even than a 1980s car. And who knows if we'll be able to get parts with that kind of stuff that long. That's the other issue. Yeah, you know, the diesel thing, too. Boy, record high last time I checked, which was yesterday, it was at $6.50 a gallon nationally. Mm-hmm.

And for a long time, I've encouraged people to consider getting diesels because they're so much more efficient. And if you get the older ones, they're a lot simpler mechanically. And so they're easier to maintain. But, you know, the fuel is becoming so exorbitantly expensive that that option might be off the table too. And then we got into the whole electric car thing. And there are some people who are saying, well, maybe now it makes sense to get an electric car. The problem is, unless you've got a home solar array that's powerful enough to provide the electricity that you're going to need for that EV. you're still stuck on grid power. Grid power is not cheap. That's right. And it's going to get a lot

more expensive too. Sure. You know, minimally from talking to people about it on the low end, it would cost you about $6,000. If you're competent enough to put the thing together yourself, just for the equipment that you need to put together a home solar array that would adequately power an electric vehicle, problem is like, you know, where I live, it's mountainous and it's been overcast for the past three days. Yeah. So, you know, I mean, it's fine if you're in Arizona or New Mexico maybe, but for most of us, it's not going to be a very good idea. That's right. The way it is around here, too, we have a lot of rain, a lot of clouds. And, you know, when you look at the EV issue, that reminds me of another thing they're trying to shove down people's throats everywhere.

That's the battery energy storage sites. Have you heard of those? Yes. And use a car as a, as a, as a way to feed current back into the grid. Well, actually, yeah, it's a bigger version of that. They actually have a special purpose gigantic lithium battery arrays. You talk about the ultimate fire hazard. That's right there. And of course, they have caught fire many times. And when we go back and look at the electric buses that have been out there, they've got large batteries on them. And you had a couple of big bus fires in Germany. One of them was in Munich. Maybe the other one's in Stuttgart. I don't really remember. But I know one of them, a bus ignites, as we see them do from time to time. It catches the adjacent buses on fire. And it burned down.

the entire place. We had situations like that in France. And in Canada, it got so bad, they just retrofitted these things and sent them back to diesel engines. But now they want to put out these gigantic battery energy storage sites. And they've talked about that here in Tennessee.

The TVA has talked about it. That's really a bad idea around here. They want to put them in residential areas. And that's just begging for a massive fire. But they did it out in California. They've had a couple of these things California, and the people are trying to stop it because they're, you know, we've got problems with fires out here. And it's just like it is with the data centers. The local county commissioners

are beholden to the corporations and they've got NDAs with them and they're lying to people. They're secret about it and all the rest of the stuff. The same thing we're seeing with the data centers. I think at the end of the day, what they really want is to have energy completely centralized, electricity ideally, because then they can control it completely. You notice in a number of States, they're doing things like prohibiting new homes from having gas or propane or wood-burning fireplaces because these are alternatives. And they give people an option. They don't want that. So you have electricity controlled by the central grid, which is controlled by smart meters, which is connected to the Internet of Things and everything else. And they'll tell you how much

electricity you're allowed to use and what you're going to have to do to be allowed to use the electricity. That's key. Yeah, it really is. We go back to 1930s and look at that technocracy. They were all about measuring everything, even to the extent they said, you know, we need to just get rid of currency, and we need to measure everybody in terms of how much energy you use. Well, we've kind of seen that proposed around the Green New Deal stuff, right, where they want to measure how much you eat and how much you travel and the fuel that you use and all the rest of the stuff. But that is one way for them to measure and to track everything. And that is a key value.

of the technocrats. They're like these engineers who did the time and motion studies, right, and they wanted to fine-tune everything. They look at that and say, yeah, we're going to scientifically manage society, which means we've got to know everything about all the usage that everybody is doing, but it has a downside on it that is much worse than any efficiency it might bring when it's combined with the human nature of politicians. One of the things that, to me, is immensely frustrating is, you know, Trump, getting back to that, ostensibly brought in to put the kibosh on all of this green stuff, all of this, this, and now because of the things that he's done, he's all but assuring that it's going to

come back with the vengeance. You know, he did a few things piddling around the periphery, getting rid of the endangerment finding that was the basis for the EPA regulating CO2 as a, as a pollutant, dialing back some of the fines for the corporate average fuel economy, stuff having to do with, you know, gas mileage on cars. Or none of it was fundamentally repealed. He did what typically Republicans always do. They mend not end. Don't get rid of just kind of dial it back a little bit so that it can be brought back even

worse at some point in the future. So, you know, what are these MAGA hats think is going to happen when assuming the elections are allowed to proceed and there's a blue tsunami and they take over at the house? And then in 2028, we get, you know, President Spanberger or, you know, president. Yeah, or AOC or whatever. All of these allegedly good things that Trump did will, you know, will be completely vitiated. Yeah, he's not going to end the EPA, and he's not going to stand on principle for anything. And a good example of that is going back to his first term.

He left the Paris Climate Accord, 2015. He left that and placed the entire time. You know, it's interesting when they put that in. They said, well, you know, you can leave. But once you give us notice that you have to leave, that you're going to leave, you've got to give us four years for that. to happen. And so he said, oh, okay, well, I don't want to break any laws here. You know, of course, Trump wouldn't want to tread on anybody and he wouldn't want to usurp any authority. So he's going to obey the letter of the law of this thing that was never ratified, this treaty that was never

ratified by Congress, by the Senate. And to me, that was such a smelly rat. I could see that a mile away. And all these people say, hey, he can't do anything. His hands are tied. And it's like, look at what he's doing now. His hands are never tied. He does. whatever he wishes and he boasts about the fact that he can do whatever he wishes. He deliberately did not want to get out of the Paris Climate Accord. Yeah, it's a very weird relationship that he's got with whoever still supports him, isn't it? You know, he'll do things like just brazenly, in your face, go out and buy with our money, 250 gas guzzling Cadillac escalates for his entourage and then say things like, I don't think much about, you know, the financial impact of my

decisions and people. Yeah. And it's a small price to pay. By the way, you know, the gas tax, I mean, the war tax, that's what I've been calling it. Currently, you're paying about $1.70 per gallon extra because of this war. Fuel was about $2.80 earlier in this year before the war started. It's now the national average is about $450. So you're paying about a buck 70 more for every gallon, which means that if you have, let's say, a modest small crossover SUV, something like a Toyota Raff 4 that has. as a roughly 12 to 15 gallon gas tank, every time you fill up, you're paying $25 in a war tax.

That means that you're paying more for that than you're paying in the federal and state gas taxes combined. It's one of the most exorbitant and regressive taxes that has been afflicted on the American people in my memory. That's a good way to look at it. If it stays where it is right now, most people will be paying at least $1,200 more every year just to support this war. And that's not counting on everything else. Yeah, that's a good way to look at.

That's a good way to explain it to people. The only thing I would change about that, I would say instead of a war tax, I'd say the Israel tax. Well, you sure, of course. Obviously, it's that. It's amazing to me how much control the Zionists have over this government. I just, every time I see it, I just shake my head. It's like, this can't be true. This is a nightmare scenario.

It's so insufferable to have your motives impugn, too, to raise your hand in question. Things like, you know, this horrific genocide that's going on in Gaza. Yeah. These, these, these, these, or Lebanon. Lebanon. Look at Lebanon. And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, you're anti-Semitic, you don't like people who are Jewish. No, no, I don't like Netanyahu. I don't like the Zionist lobby.

I think these people are, are pathological and psychopathic even. Yeah. And that's nothing to do. It doesn't mean, you know, it doesn't mean, you know, I'm, you know, I'm looking to round up people who just happen to be Jewish. I would like to see Netanyahu rounded up. Yeah. You know, and a lot of the people in. in his administration and Trump and also a lot of people around Trump too.

Yeah, I agree. I agree. Yeah. Did you see how everybody walked out on him in the UN? I played that on the show. It's a shame that the whole body didn't. Yeah. I mean, it was unhinged.

It was pretty close to the entire body. It really was. I spent up and played it back at two and a half speed. It's like he, I mean, it's, I think it's just an indecacy of how beaten down we are. You had the president of the United States

threatening essentially to a not. violate an entire country. And I'm surprised they didn't walk out on him. I'm surprised. I mean, I would have. I'm not going to set through any of his speeches. Where was it? You know,

like you old Bugs Money cartoons where they had the guys with the white suits and the nets coming out to get the crazy guy. Yeah, that's right. That's what they should have. Well, you know, when we look at how insane this is, I don't even know where to start with this because, you know,

the war taxing just keeps going and going. And everybody sees what's happening with it. And if you say, you know, we don't want to, you're going to cancel the people if they even criticize your foreign government. And then they call you anti-Semitic. And then they boast about how they canceled you for criticizing their foreign government. And you have this dual loyalty issue, which, again, when Dave Smith called out Alan Dershowitz on that, Alan Dershowitz, oh, you're anti-Semitic. You know, just by pointing out dual loyalty. I'm looking at this dual loyalty stuff, and it cuts on a lot of different ways.

I mean, I see the massive group of Muslims going into Texas trying to put up Sharia systems, and you've got people blowing back against it, don't Sharia my Texas. I agree with that. But I don't want to Noah Hyde our Texas either. And so we've got all these different groups, whether it's the Palestinians like Rashida Talib coming and waving her flag or Brian Mast wearing his IDF uniform in the halls of Congress. we've got all these different groups of people who have come to America to loot us and to pick at the carcass of this dead country. That's the way I see it.

I see America. I agree with you. I see America sort of as a reincarnation of the Habsburg Empire before it too fell apart. This sort of just dissolute, degenerate thing that was run by an out-of-touch oligarchy that had nothing holding it together really except inertia and force. and that came to an end. And I think it's going to come to an end here as well. I hope and pray that we can come out of this all right, like the Soviet Union did when it fell apart.

It might not be a bad thing for the central authority to fall apart. You know, it was supposed to be the United States singular. I mean, plural, I mean. And now we have United States singular. And we've had that since 1865. And that's a complete contradiction to the concept that the founding fathers had, which was divided sovereignty to have these essentially autonomous states that operated as just that in that literal meaning of the term, a state that they had sovereignty. And it was a check

on authoritarianism and tyranny because if one state got a little out of hand and it was getting insufferable to live there, well, you could just pick up sticks and you could cross the border to the next state and live a more freed life. But when the federal Leviathan came along and centralized everything and turned the states into administrative districts, basically, of the centralized authority in Washington, that alternative began to go away. And it's effectively gone now. Where do you go in this country? Some states are more than others, but there really isn't any dramatic difference one way or the other.

I think there's a huge difference in people's attitude, which has really fed this thing. You know, when we've grown up as kids, a bit older than you, but you see her all the time, hey, don't make a federal case out of it. Everything is a federal case now. and or somebody would say, hey, it's a free country, isn't it? When was the last time you heard somebody say that? Nobody says that anymore. It's not a free country.

You know, there is something in the Constitution I sort of vaguely remember about double jeopardy. You remember that? And now, you know, you maybe commit some crime at the state level, and then they apply federal hate crime charges on top of that. Yeah. So you essentially get prosecuted for the same thing at multiple levels. That's right.

That's right. And when you look at, go back to 2020 and look at it, I think really the key, and we could see how 2020, again, was queued up and practiced and set up, going back to two months before 9-11. They had their germ games. They practiced them on an annual basis. Then they had the anthrax attack, and they put out model legislation two months after that. And so that's how they get around the 10th Amendment.

And then the key activating sequence is all of the Federal Reserve money that they can throw up people. They can bribe you. They can blackmail you with the money. And so to me, I look at it, and the only way this empire is going to come apart, and I think it will, is with the dollar coming apart. Because otherwise, they're going to keep bribing and blackmailing people with money, that they just print up. And so I think, you know, that's going to be a very painful thing for all of us when that happens, because we've all been cushioned from reality with this phony federal dollar, this fiat currency. Once that is gone, and we get back to honest money or something, it's going to be. to be a very different world for us, but it would break the power of the federal government for sure.

You have three things. You know, the money, as you say, the food and mobility, those three things. You know, that's how you control the population. And it's terrifying to think as far as the money in particular, we may wake up one day and, you know, people's savings, their 401K plans, all of it essentially rendered worthless or expropriated by the state. And that's a scenario that could absolutely happen. Oh, it could happen with the AI bubble. You know, you look at if you've got a 401k, is it invested in funds? And if it's invested in funds, most of that is going to be subject to some kind of, you know, the vicissitudes of an AI bubble that bursts. And so I think that's a real risk, you know, when that gigantic bubble that they've created that everybody is saying is going

to bust, but it still hasn't happened. You know, again, shades of 2008, you had so many people were blowing the whistle and saying, this is, this doesn't make any sense. It's fraudulent. It's criminal. And yet it went on and on for a couple more years. And some of the people who were the first ones to notice it nearly went bankrupt because they bet against that fraud, but the people kept running the fraud for a long time. And so I think that's where we are. We've got so many people inside the industry and outside of the industry saying, this doesn't make any sense. It's not sustainable. And yet it goes and it goes and it's getting bigger and bigger and more and more concentrated. And I think a lot of people don't realize how exposed they are, perhaps, and their

401ks. Sure. Well, people have gotten comfortable aside from 401ks, which they have as their retirement, to living hand to mouth, to having enormous debt, which they feel okay with because they can float it. But what happens when the chips come calling? You know, and they call in those loans. And you have to pay. And all of a sudden, you've got nothing. They just take everything you've got because you really don't own anything. You know, if you're leveraged on your house, you have a big mortgage, you have a vehicle that, you know, you owe a huge lump sum on and you can't pay it. Well, all of a sudden, you know, your your facade of affluence just goes away. Yeah, that's right. A lot of people are unfortunately in that position because they have gotten inured to, used to, it has been

encouraged. You know, our parents' generation that experienced her was around during the Depression, you know, grandparents and all of that, they understood the virtue of living not only within their means, but below their means if possible. Yes. Yes. And paying for things when they could afford to buy them or on layaway, not getting them until they actually had paid for them. Now, you know, people are just tempted by, well, I can, you know, I can get that monthly payment and I can get this fancy car that I really can't afford, but they don't say it

that way. They just think, I can, I can manage that. And buy all these things and feel like they're, you know, they've got high status that they're rich because they've got all these goodies and things. But really, they're Fredbear. They don't really own anything. They're just in hock to some bank, multiple banks, a lot of the times. That's right.

Well, let's talk a little bit about the ethanol blues that you've got, article up about. Oh, yeah. You know, it's embarrassing. I've seen this. I've seen this floated as a proposal by some people say, hey, gasoline is expensive. Well, let's just take it up from E10 to E15. What can possibly happen? Well, they're already doing it.

Are you not seeing that in Tennessee? I have not filled up my tank for quite. I hardly ever drive anymore. Well, it's really cheesy. too. They caught, they lured me into this trap. I was driving one day and I needed to get some gas for my truck and I glanced up and I saw the sheets and I saw the, you know, sheets the gas station. And I saw the electric billboard and I saw what looked like and I shouldn't know better a too good to be true price. So of course, I thought maybe, okay, maybe there's just a good opportunity here. Well, they had that E15 there and that was the good price. Of course, I didn't put it in my truck because I'm not a complete moron. Don't do that. Don't put that E15 in your vehicle unless it's flex fuel compatible. Only very new late model vehicles can tolerate the E15. If you have an older vehicle, don't do it because it will cause damage to your vehicle. That's not just my opinion.

Read your owner's manual. It will tell you do not do that. Now to get to my ethanol blues, and it's embarrassing for me to have to admit this, but one of my motorcycles, you know, last summer, fall-ish, I put some ethanol-laced gas in the tank because I thought, oh, I'm going to be riding this. I'll just burn it through. It'll be fine. Well, life got busy and I ended up not riding that bike for eight months.

And when I went to go start it up, this was a couple of weeks ago, I could get it started kind of sort of, but it wouldn't hold an idle and I knew. I had that sinking feeling. And sure enough, I took the carburetors out and I've got some pictures on my website that shows what was in the carburetors. You know, the ethanol, it's highly corrosive and it just eats the gaskets and the plastics and it reacts badly with the alloys that were used in carburetors that were, you know, that engine parts that were made before ethanol, you know, when, when the engineers assumed that only gasoline

was going to be touching these, these components. And you introduced this high alcohol content gas that were being fed now. You have these unsavory chemical reactions and degradation that go on, and it turns to goo, you know, and so I had to completely disassemble the carburetors, clean them and put them all back together. Now, the upside is, and this gets back to what we were talking about earlier, it's just a matter of putting it all on the bench and taking it all apart. and cleaning it and putting it all back together again. It really didn't cost anything to speak of other than some new gaskets. And my time.

And my time. The point is, at least I could do it. Yeah. You know, as opposed to with, you know, a modern direct injected car, when the direct injection system goes out, well, take it to the dealer and hand him a $3,000. You know, when he gets done working on it. That's amazing. And, of course, you know, a lot of this is being driven by the Republican Party and their

alliance with Big Ag, because Big Ag, wants to push ethanol on people. And just like they pushed glyphosate on people, you know, they were, they didn't care about the health effects of glyphosate. You know, certainly they don't care about the effects of E15 on your car because they don't care about the health effects of ethanol on your body. And so they want to put that out there. Why?

Because if they spray ethanol on, not ethanol, if they spray glyphosite on these things, then they can produce more. and they don't care if it's poison. They're selling it by the weight, right? There's another aspect of this that's interesting, too, with regard to ethanol. I'm glad you reminded me of it because as with most things involving the Republican Party, it's a chip on top of that. Because they'll tell you, oh, look, it's less expensive, which is true.

You pay less per gallon for the ethanol-laced gas, but your mileage goes down substantially. I'm radically with E-15. I mean, really significantly. If you use E-10, you're getting about five miles per gallon less. than you would have with straight gas. Really? That's the general speaking. Yeah, I mean, I've done the experiment, you know,

because ethanol, alcohol, is less energy dense. You know, it has a lower BTO than gasoline does. So, you know, you're going to be burning more of it to travel to stay. So, you know, it's just, it's so of a piece. That's what they do. They sell you these cons and laugh in your face as they pocket the money. Well, years ago, I went to a free market. at mainly libertarian economics convention conferences.

They had all these different think tanks from different states and everything. One of them was hosting an event. And they said, we're going to do a speakeasy. And it'll be set up like a speakeasy. You just go up and you tap on the thing. And when the people open up a little trap door, you say, I'm here for the ethanol subsidy. I always think of that when I see the ethanol stuff. I thought that was really clever because it really is.

everything they do is about prohibition, isn't it? Even if prohibition doesn't work. So, yeah, let's talk a little bit about safety. You've got another article about safety. Something to know about safety. Yeah, you know, first of all, let's preface this by saying it's kind of become almost a cult, hasn't it? This obsession is safety. It's not reasonable.

You know, we're not talking about vehicles that are crash likely. That's my invention. You know, a vehicle that has erratic, dangerous handling. the steering wheel comes off in your hand. You know, the brakes don't work. I would characterize that as an unsafe car. Now, is my 76 Trans Am unsafe because it doesn't have airbags? I don't think so.

I've owned the car for 30 years. I've never had an accident in it. I've never been injured by it. So I guess it's not very unsafe, right? So really, what we're talking about is compliance for the most part. When we hear that word safety, you know, they'll essentially equate if a vehicle doesn't have whatever the latest roster of requirements is that the fact, federal government has imposed, your vehicle isn't safe. In 2029, all the cars are going to have to

have something called automated emergency braking. Some cars do have it. They are already, you know, kind of getting people to use that. But anyway, so what will happen is if your 2025 car doesn't have AEB, they'll characterize it as unsafe. The insurance mafia will say, well, you haven't got AEB, your cars are unsafe and they'll increase your premiums for that. Yeah, because you're never The car that's got the automatic braking, if it's going to just slam on the brakes for no particular reason at all, just slam on them. And then you're in behind them and you hit them. You're charged with the accident. Absolutely.

Absolutely. Another thing about it that's kind of interesting, you'll hear talk about, you know, five stars. It's got a five-star crash, you know, the test score. Okay. You know, all that means is that they slammed it into a barrier or they hit it in the side with something. And that's fine, but it's relative to other cars of its size. So if you have a five-star rated subcompact crossover, let's say, that doesn't mean it's as safe as a half-ton pickup truck. Get the two together and find out for yourself.

You know, they just, they mislead people. And also a lot of these, you and I've talked about this at length before, but it's worth talking about again, so many of these safety requirements have made vehicles more likely to crash because of poor visibility, for example. They've jacked up the rear ends of the cars now because of rear impact standards. then the problem is you can't see what's behind you anymore. Cars have to have a structure on the roof sufficient to support the weight of the car if it rolls over. The problem with that is now you've got these at the windshield, at the base of the windshield. These are the A pillars that support the roof and behind that the B pillars.

They're now like this thick. So when you, you know, look to your right, look to your left and try to see whether a car is coming at you before you pull out and at the room. You can't see. So you pull out, boom, they hit you. That's not very safe in my book. That's kind of like, you know, the arguments going back and forth. I remember when they're talking about the Iraq War, they said, well, you know, should we have the soldiers wearing more body armor?

Because if we do, then they can't move around as quickly. And it reduces their mobility and they're more of a setting duck. But, and that's exactly the thing. You know, if you can't see what's happening, you're much more likely to have an accident. But of course, you'll be in a tank or something, I guess. It certainly is crazy. but, you know, it's, when you're talking about that, and I've mentioned this on the show before, is one of my, another one of these things that's indelibly etched into my mind,

and it was an engineering class I took, and we were doing kinetics, and the problem that they gave us that said, you're sitting in this car and it weighs 2,000 pounds or whatever, and this 80,000 pound truck is bearing down on you at X speed, right? And assuming a perfectly elastic collision, collision and assuming that you have your foot on the brake and the coefficient of friction is such and such, well, with those assumptions, calculate the instantaneous acceleration on the occupants of that vehicle.

And it was pretty comical, actually. Would you go through and you run through the calculations? But that's exactly right. It's all about the weight and the energy transference, isn't it? Yeah, and we have reached kind of a point of absurdity. You know, there was a lot of substantive improvement that occurred. from say the 50s all the way up through the 80s. That was the era when we went from things like single cylinder master cylinders,

which, you know, if you had a hydraulic failure with a single reservoir master cylinder, in the old days this was like circa before 1965, you would lose all brakes, you know, front and rear. So they put in dual master cylinder, dual reservoir master cylinder, which divided the front brakes from the rear brakes so that if you have a hydraulic line failure, say, with the front brakes, you still have the back brakes. That's a good thing. Radial tires were a good thing.

Disc brakes were a good thing. You know, all those things the market would have said, hey, these are good things. People would have wanted them. But we've now reached a sort of reductio ad absurdum. We're like, okay, cars are safe, but how can we make them even safer? So they're coming up with like totally ridiculous things,

like a pedestrian detection system and airbags on the outside of the car now. So, you know, like if you open to a pedestrian, you've seen, I'm not making it up. They have an airbag that deploys from the base of the windshield to come out and protect, you know, protect the pedestrian that you might have hit. That's insane. Yeah. Of course, you see these videos all the time with somebody trying to collect some insurance.

They don't know the person's got a dash cam. So they throw themselves on the car and then because they're going to claim that the car hit them, right? So I guess a person like that could total your car. Yeah. They put themselves on it and set off the airbags. these eye movement monitors that are going to be required in a few months you know 27 models all have to have this and i've experienced this with the number of the new cars that i test drive they basically want you to be like a blinkered clidesdale you know those horses that have the blinkers they want you just to stare straight ahead and if you dare if you have the effrontery to actually be interested in what's going on around you you'll you'll start to get hassled by the car you know and it'll even to sit up straight like you're fifth grade again you know like i've had i had i I had a car tell me to sit up straight because my face wasn't quite in line with the infrared camera. Of course, I solved that problem pretty quickly with some blue painter's tape.

I just, I put the painters tape over the infrared eye and that solved the problem. Well, you know, it really is you're talking about as being like back in school because all of these issues that you're talking about, that's government based. And it's nanny government based. When you look at, you're talking about all the improvements that were made in terms of technology with automobiles. We can say the same thing about airplanes, right? Look at how airplanes went from, you know, the Wright brothers to massive 747s and so forth in the 20th century. Then we hit 2001. And now we've got the government deciding that it needs to make everything safe.

And we've got the 9-11 false flag. And so now everything is about safety. We've got TSA and all the rest of this stuff. And look at how everything is just devolving into this third world situation. And it's because we got highly centralized, highly hands-on on everything, government. And they're just sitting there thinking, well, now what can we tell them to do? You know? It is a, it's like a Simon Says type of thing.

It's like Fauci, you know. They've got the power to make, to give us orders. And they tell us to do things like put masks on your face. They stick six feet apart. Of course, they're going to do that with cars and planes as well. Everything is about these arbitrary, petty rules of micromanaging every single thing in our life. And, of course, they're now giving themselves the power to do that to an even greater extent if we don't stop it.

Yep. I'm with Mike Roe who says safety isn't number one. If safety is number one, nothing gets done. You know, there's a balance that has to be struck, prudent risks. I'm going to take a little bit of a risk when I fire up my chainsaw to cut up some firewood. You know, it's a potentially dangerous tool. But if I were, you know, completely terrified of potentially cutting myself with the chainsaw, I'd never have any firewood. It's just you can't function. This is, you know, risk, they're making people. neurotic about risk life is itself risky getting out of bed is risky you might slip and fall it's a possibility and and they they focus on all these hypothetical possibilities to the point now

we're so attenuated some trivial minor risk becomes the basis for infantilizing everybody yes you know it's like harrison bergeron if you haven't read that oh yeah a lot of people listening may not i recommend reading that that vonnegut story about how they just had to cripple everybody who in any way it was competent above the baseline average in anything. And of course, they did a movie of that too. So you can look at the trailer for Harrison Virgeron, go to YouTube and look it up,

and you'll get the idea right away as to how absurd it was and how oppressive it was. You know, somebody having a rebelling against the system as a ballerina because she takes the chains off when she's performing. It's just that simple and that stupid. And it's exactly the kind of society that we live in. What they don't want fundamentally.

The reason isn't safety. That's the superficial justification. What they don't want is the individual exercising judgment. Evaluating a situation on their own without being told. They don't want that. They want passive people who are just going to sit there and wait to be told what to do. It's profoundly anti-human. The whole point of living is that we interact with each other.

We interact with the world. And we make judicious decisions. And in particular, growing up is all about that. You know, children learn that they have to figure out, okay, you know, if I want this, I have to do that. And is it worth doing it? And I have to be careful about doing it. You know, the whole thing about you touch a stove when you're four years old because you don't know better. But now you do.

You touch the stove. And so you're more careful around the hot stove. That's progression from childhood to adulthood. What they want is to keep us in a state of perpetual arrested childhood. Yes, I agree. And that's what we are right now. And they want to make it even more so. I mean, you look at the people like Yuval Harari,

talking about how he's going to control people. He's going to control us with video games. You're going to control us with a virtual reality, and he's going to control us with drugs or whatever. And that's all they're looking at. How can we pacify these people and keep them under control? I mean, it really is. When I go back and look at it, it's all these dystopian novels

that we've seen for the longest time, and everybody is just doing their best to make them come to life, aren't they? unfortunately yeah well there's so many facets of this one of them may be too the way they have estrogenated the population by putting all of these compounds into the water and the food to particularly to kind of chemically castrate men and make men in particular more feminine so that we have a more a more fear adult society you know a more maternal society it's worried about everything that might get us and maybe it's because i've never drank well water that i'm the that I mean, I drink, I drink well water. I don't drink, I don't drink fluoride.

Fluorated water that comes out of the system. So, you know, maybe, maybe that's why I'm, and maybe you are, maybe that's why we're these outlying heretics that we are. I grew up on well water. Yeah. Trump likes fluoride. You know, the Trump administration, the EPA has decided that that poison should stay in. They had actually won a court case. And Trump's EPA has decided to appeal that and keep it going so they can keep the fluoride program I'm going. I think that's a big tell, quite frankly, as well, if we didn't have enough of it with the Trump-M-R-N-A shots. But we look at it. As a Christian, I go back and I look at things like the description of humanity before the flood. It's just continually, the mind of man was just

continually evil all the time. And then at the Tower of Babel, it's like, well, these people are all together with the common language, nothing that they imagine will be kept from them. And we're seeing the combination of those two things. We see the evil nature of men in power because that really does seem to be what brings out the most evil part of your nature. And then we see the fact that we have the capability with technology to do basically anything that they want. And I keep telling people, you know, you may not think that anybody would ever want to do something like this. And you may not think that anybody would ever have the technical capability to do this. But that's the danger that we're in.

We don't realize how evil these people are. and we don't realize how advanced their technology is. And that really is what keeps us vulnerable, I think. Yeah, I think that's one of the biggest humps that we have to get over. We, meaning basically normal people, years and years ago, and you've probably seen the interview with the guy, too. Yuri Besmarov, remember him? No, I don't remember.

He was a former KGB agent, or official, higher-up official. He worked with Yuri and Ropov back in the 80s. And he gave a number of talks with Edward Griffin, the guy who wrote the book, creature from Island. And he talked about their method

about how they would ruin a society. You know, and it's really sick stuff. And, you know, one of the things that they talked about

is just demoralizing the population. You know, rendering that the population so helpless feeling and beaten down and oppressed that they just kind of

become dazed. You know, that they lack initiative. You know, the old stereotype of the Russian guzzling his vodka. Yeah.

Because what else is the poor guy going to do. Exactly. His life is out of his control. So he numbs himself with vodka. Well, what are we doing? We're numbing ourselves with stupid video games, handheld devices, porn, all this stuff,

you know, to kind of take our minds off of the garbage that our lives are becoming. And it's, it's in order to disconnect yourself from that, I think one of the key things is understanding and it's so hard that people are, there are some people who are that malicious, that cruel, that evil, that they actually mean us harm. It's not that they're mistaken, misguided people, you know, who are trying to do what they consider to be the right thing. So they're basically good, right? Yeah, you know, it's because you can't get your head around that.

I was watching a couple of weeks ago. We watched really interesting documentary. It had a woman who was related to Ted Bundy. I think she was her cousin of Ted Bundy. She knew him. And they grew up together. And she knew him when she was college days. And what a sweet guy. What a nice guy. My, my uncle Ted is because Ted was like, you know, five years older than her or something like that. And it took her a long time to come to grips with the fact that this guy was out there killing people. Yeah. I've used Ted Bundy as an example of this. I said, the problem is that normal people look at somebody like Ted Bundy and they can't imagine that he would do something like that, especially because he's very charismatic and intelligent and things like that. So he disguises himself, right? Like he's running for office or something.

Yeah. I mean, Trump does it's such a tragedy. You know, the things that Trump ran on really would have been, would not have been out of place on the Democratic Party ticket in 1960. You know, doing things to help the average guy in this country. That's right. Get the border under control, reduce costs of living, all of that. You know, I'm immensely sympathetic to the people who fell for it. They listened to this guy and he sort of sounded populist.

You know, he pretended to be a man of the people. And that's what they voted for. and what did they get? President Ted Bundy. Exactly. It's a real shell-shocking thing to deal with. And we're right in the middle of this of people trying to deal with it. And I really hope that those good things, this idea of trying to make life better in this country,

don't get cast into complete disrepute by this man. I agree. I think that's why we're seeing the rise of the Democrat Socialists. I think he is pushing people in that direction because they look at it. And they say, well, he's a Republican. And if he's a capitalist, I don't want any of that stuff. And, of course, he isn't, right? He's not free market in any regard.

He's not capitalist in any regard. And I don't even think he's Republican. I always call him a New York City Democrat because I think that's what he was. And he always will be. And I think his perspective on everything is exactly like that. Whether you're talking about gun control or any of the rest of this stuff, the guy is a Democrat. And I think you're being too easy on him. He's a mafia Don.

You know, the character that he reminds me the most of is John Gotti. He's a lout. He even looks like Goddy. You know, he dresses in that kind of gangsterish way, behaves like a gangster. He's just, he's allowed. Another, you know, person he reminds me, have you remember Biff, the bully from Back to the Future? That's the kind of guy we're dealing with.

Well, they actually said Bob Zemeckis and the people put it, they actually said that they patterned Biff after Trump. I didn't know that. Because he's pretty well known at that point in time. But yeah, it couldn't be. a closer resemblance to him because I think they intended it that way. But they had his number way back then. So yeah, it is a shame.

But yeah, that's the thing. We always project what we are and what we think people should be. We project ourselves under other people. And that can be both good and bad. I remember seeing Harry Belafonte was so disappointed in Obama. He said as a liberal, you know, he didn't think that Obama had done many of the liberal things that he wanted to do. He said, who is this guy?

I don't even know who he is. We saw him and we wanted to believe that he was going to be like us, that he would do all the things that we thought were important. We just projected ourselves onto him. And I see the same thing with the people with Amaga because there was a personality cult around Obama, just like that's a personality cult around Trump. Well, they haven't come to grips with it yet either. And of course, you know, Trump wrote in to his second term on four years of Biden.

And I think that that was all part of the WWE show. you know, Trump is in the Hall of Fame, the wrestling Hall of Fame, not coincidentally. You know, four years of the LBGQ stuff, of all of the DEIs, all of that, you know, it was just thrust in our faces, thrust in our faces. You know, people were desperate for things to get back to the way they were before 2020. So Trump wrote that. I agree. Here we are.

I agree. I couldn't agree with you more. And it is a very deliberate thing. And, you know, it's a tag, basically a tag team match. You know, I'll put together the infrastructure for the vaccine and all the rest of the stuff, get this stuff rolling out there. You mandate it, you know, and then we'll both be able to point the finger of the other guy if need be and say, I didn't do it.

He did that part of it, you know. We see the same thing happening right now. Trump is keying all of this stuff up for the inevitable Democrat who will take his place. And he's paving the way for that. And, of course, I think the other aspect of it that also underscores it was a tag team, was the weaponization that Biden did. that got people so upset that he didn't even, Trump didn't even have to go to a debate, right?

He just was coronated as the Republican nominee. He didn't have to defend his position or anything because he was a victim. And so if they're coming after him, he must be a good guy. Sure. And the crowning event was that thing in Butler, Pennsylvania, you know, which it took me. I was a little bit suspicious of it when I saw it, you know, sold the news cover.

I'm 100% suspicious. I don't believe it for a second. I know, because again, but it's the whole Ted Bundy thing. Because to really understand that they could have actually had the effrontery to stage something like that. Yeah. But looking back on it, absolutely. And that kid that they set up as whatever, their MK Ultra-Hatsy, bring him up on the roof, you know, shoot him after he shoots a few innocent bystanders.

And then let Trump, you know, raise his fist in the Iwo Jima pose with the ketchup packet on the side of his face. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I wish we knew how he grew back that ear because a lot of people could use that. Stephen Colbert probably would like to have to know how Trump grew his ear back, right? Right. It is crazy. And yet that became his new brand. And I thought it was interesting to see Zuckerberg and a lot of these other people.

As soon as that happened, they caught on, I think, right away and threw their weight behind him. Not because they thought he was some kind of a, you know, badass hero because he stood up and said, fight, fight, fight, fight. Because I think they realize just how sophisticated and ruthless this team behind him was and what they would be able to pull off. And so it's like, that's the team that I want to be on. Yeah. The only hope that I have is that when people are faced with an existential threat, which I think we're getting to that point, that their instinct for self-preservation will kick in. I think that we've gotten to where we are because for the most part, most people have been able to sort of balance it. You know, where you're able to work, pursue your profession, raise your family,

have a sort of decent life for the most part that allows you to overlook a lot of these awful things that were going on. But it's now to the point where people are literally not able to afford to drive anymore. They're literally not going to be able to afford to eat anymore to take care of their kids, to keep a roof over their head. These are existential things. And when that happens, maybe I hope people will actually kind of decide it's time we have to do something, not just talk about it, not just post memes on X. Well, and that's the thing I think, healthy about the data center, even though Trump is doubling down on this and all the Trump Republicans are going to fall in line behind him. This is a bipartisan issue. I haven't

seen such strong resistance against a particular thing across the political spectrum for quite some time. The only difference is that, you know, the left might oppose it because they think it's going to increase global warming or something like that or because of the noise or the water usage. You've got some people who oppose it because they really understand, I think, the great threat of it is the surveillance aspect of it, the purpose of it. All those other things can be mitigated. But for whatever reason, a lot of people are united in their opposition to them, even, you know, they don't oppose it because of surveillance issues. And so I think that is a key thing. And I think it's very encouraging to see people rising up against the flock cameras,

rising up against the data centers. And I think that's another reason over and above the massive, it's the economy's stupid thing. You have the people rising up against these things. And on all of these issues, Trump and his followers are on the wrong side. Absolutely. Absolutely. I think we're at an inflection point on a lot of these topics. Data centers, or, and I'm encouraged because I do see a crossing of the lines.

They've wanted to divide us to conquer us for generations. You know, keep us at each other's throats, conservatives versus liberals, blacks versus whites, all of this stuff. But we're getting to recognize that there's common cause here, that we have a common enemy. And it's not each other. You know, it's these people. You know, that awareness is dawning. And of course, that's dangerous because they, our enemies, do recognize that we're beginning

to notice it and see it. And they're probably going to try something remarkably awfully dramatic, I think. That's right. Which brings us back to where we started, which was Bill Burr saying, they're not building the system because of what you're doing. the system because of what they're about to do and how you will react to it. I think that's what we're looking at here. Eric, it's great talking to you.

Always good to talk to a kindred spirit about these types of things. Thank you so much. Again, Eric Peters at Ericpetersotters.com. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you, David. Thank you. The common man. They created common core to dumb down our children.

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