The David Knight Show - GeeseBusters Busts Bird Flu Hoax: Wild Birds are Thriving, While the Claim is They’re Spreading Contagion

Episode Date: February 28, 2025

    Rob, Geesebusters.com, a bird-whispering genius with decades of wild bird expertise, blows the lid off the so-called 'bird flu epidemic' rocking Long Island and beyond (but limited to American borders?)!   Tune in for jaw-dropping tales of whistle-trained flocks, a near-miss turkey empire in China, and a conspiracy that could choke out our farms and freedoms—straight from a man who’s seen it all!If you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-show Or you can send a donation throughMail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @[e-mail] App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Money should have intrinsic value AND transactional privacy: Go to DavidKnight.gold for great deals on physical gold/silverFor 10% off Gerald Celente's prescient Trends Journal, go to TrendsJournal.com and enter the code KNIGHTFor 10% off supplements and books, go to RNCstore.com and enter the code KNIGHTBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.

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and i really wanted to get his take on this of course he's also sent me some articles about things that were happening uh long island with the duck farms and stuff like that and he is somewhere in that general vicinity so we were just now starting to see news articles for the first time about wild birds dying in mass they got supposedly 20 dead birds were found in long island so that proves that there's a bird flu epidemic out there doesn't it uh we'll talk about that but joining us now is rob at geesebusters thank you for joining us great to see you thank you very much for having me on the show today and and allowing me to get my story out

there well thank you we were talking during the break, and he was saying, you know, gave me a good tip about our bird that was attacked by a hawk, I think, because the hawks are really back now. They kind of disappeared, and none of them have succumbed to the bird fluke because they're back in massive numbers. And evidently, one of the birds got out of the coop area, and so there's a real kerfuffle that was going on here and a bit bloody and missing some feathers but survived and

and rob was saying to use a clicker when we feed them and that way they'll come back to that sound if we need to get them to come to us real quickly that's a great uh that's a great idea of course the clicker training has been around for quite some time for all kinds of animals hasn't it and also if the bird is a little bloody a little neosporin on the cut will heal it right away oh good good i've noticed that i had i had a turkey one time uh that they they fought and it was it was blood all over they were fighting and i put some neosporin on the bird, and the bird was healed a few days later. Wow.

So that will take care of any cut and any infection a bird might get. Well, Rob. The same stuff that we take, Neosporin. Yeah, yeah, that's great. That's great. Well, Rob, you certainly know birds and wild birds. That's been your life's work. Tell us a little bit about how you got into this.

Before we get into it, just kind of give the story and tell us a little bit about what it was all about. I've always had a background with birds as a kid. I've always raised game birds, bobwhite quail, ring-necked pheasant. I used to buy the eggs, and I used to incubate them. And after they got to a certain age, then I would release them into the woods. And I'd do this for years. So I've always had that background, and I always had that love for birds. So as time went on, I worked for, you know, Parks Department.

So I had a background of, you know outdoor uh you know parks and and behavior always around that time but back in uh around 19 um 1980 18 uh 1998 i met i met a woman uh she was chinese and uh we had a lot in common and then took me to China and I decided to go to China with her. I went to China three times starting in 2002. Matter of fact, I went one year from the anniversary day to 9-11 and I didn't buy any of that fear stuff that was being out. We didn't either. We chose to fly back with our daughter from China on 9-11 because we knew that it would be easier for us to get a flight on that day. Yeah. And it was like the fifth anniversary.

It was our fifth anniversary. So everybody's like talking about, oh, no. And I was like, yeah, we don't have to worry about it. Absolutely. I mean, the airports were dead. I couldn't believe it. It was great no lines anything so uh uh it was quite interesting uh uh when i first arrived to china it was really

different people are telling me god you're out of your mind to go there and i went by myself uh she was already in china so i met her there and I took the flight the 17-hour flight by myself and uh when I arrived there it was uh it was like a night and day it was really different type of uh of a feeling so uh I I went there with an intention to do a business there I I was uh raising uh turkeys and I would like to I and I was thinking about doing a turkey business in China, since there was no turkey meat in China. They never heard of turkey. They only had chickens.

And I decided maybe to set up a little farm there and sell my product to restaurants in Beijing. So I learned the business out in long island from a farmer out east and uh this was just something i wanted to do in china i mean it was all opportunities to do business and i had a bird background so i i tried to uh uh get get together with her and a few other government people and uh the government actually offered me uh 20 acres for 2 000 a year right next to a lake it was uh no it was a great price there was no regulations you can build anything you want on the property uh they would actually supply the incubators for

me they took me to a facility where there were these huge incubators and they also took me to a like it was like a purine factory where the feed was being processed so i had everything i wanted in china to do this business and we were ready to go do it and then all of a sudden bird flu hit china and uh this this was when i first heard about it and they called uh i don't know how many millions of chickens in china so i backed out of that business right away and uh thank god they they who knows they might have would have blamed me for it you know so uh publicly execute you yeah it's funny that they didn't have turkeys and i mean i guess they didn't have them they weren't indigenous to the area or something but yeah they eat everything i mean when we were there they would

they had items on the menu we used to laugh about it fish lips i mean every every part of every animal that you can imagine and we went to kfc once when we were there and we got drumsticks and they were little tiny drumsticks and they were white meat and it's like what what is this about i don't know it wasn't wasn't a chicken it was something else i don't know what it was but it was really tiny and it had white meat and it was very very thick on the end and it was kind of so we we just kind of called it kentucky fried creatures so we figured we didn't know what we were eating dav David, I couldn't eat the food there. Oh, yeah? The food was horrible.

Oh, yeah, that's why we went to KFC to try to find something that we could relate to. The odds of being struck by lightning are less than one in one million. But when you hear this sound, you're probably heading indoors in a hurry. But did you know that the odds of getting shingles are one in three if you've had chicken pox? Why leave it up to chance?

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we were there with with my daughter and we was like a pet shop, you know? We were there with my daughter, and we're walking down the street, and, you know, she doesn't speak English yet, but she was almost five years old and just a couple months shy. And we turn a corner, and this smell of rotting fish just hits us like a brick. And then she starts pulling goes oh oh she wanted to go there to eat and we're like let's get out of here you can stand the smell and they just are spreading it out on the street you know they're just laying this stuff out on the street and uh so you know you look at that and you wonder um they said they had bird flu you gotta wonder if

it was maybe something else i mean if they eat like that, then I wonder what they're doing with the birds and how they're feeding them. I don't know. What did you think about that when you saw that in the early 2000s? What was the year, about 2002 or something like that? It was about 2002, 2003 when they came out with bird flu there. I just didn't bother doing that business and dropped it. But how I got into this business. Sorry, I hear the bird out here.

It must have gotten out again and also being itchy. What's going on here? Yeah, yeah. But we're fine. We're fine. Whistle's going to go take a look at it. So that ended the business there. I mean, what were they doing with bird flu?

They're just massive killing of... Yeah, from what I heard, they were also just slaughtering them and just trying to wipe out the disease that way. So that was the first I've ever heard of that. So, you know, when they said they had SARS around that same time, 2002 and everything, and that's when everybody started wearing the mask, you know, throughout Asia. And everybody started putting on the mask. Everybody, whatever the Chinese do, they would follow them, you know.

So if you got bird flu, somebody says you got bird flu, just kill them all, right? If you say that you got some kind of a new coronavirus, then everybody wears a mask. And it was right about that time that I told of a new coronavirus, then everybody wears a mask. And it was right about that time that I told people five years ago, I found the research that was done, and they had done a study of masks, and as it was becoming fashionable, and they saw people in China and Hong Kong doing it all the time, they said, you know, in New South Wales, they referenced a study that had been done and they said masks don't make any difference whatsoever. And so they said, if you tell somebody that this mask is going to protect them from a disease, we're going to come after you with a hundred thousand dollar fine. And so I referenced that study that they referenced. I told people about that.

And yet here, you know, 20 years later, we've got, you know, the U.S. government is doing that to us. And of course, on the boxes, it says it doesn't protect you from any disease. So they cover themselves and they all know it. But the vast majority of Americans are not in on the gag. When I was in China, everybody was wearing masks, but the reason why they were wearing masks was the filth, the dirt, that was in the air. And that's the main reason that they were using masks, is because of all the dirt in the air.

The place was filthy. I never saw a blue sky in china when i was there it was just like a gray uh overcast uh you hardly even see the sun uh peeking through but it was mostly the filth and the dirt in the streets and because people would be riding bicycles and everybody would have masks on just to protect the uh from from all the uh particles dust particles that they breathe in as they're driving their bicycles oh yeah but i remember disease back then that's right i remember in 2020 um uh had uh people were talking about and we had john rapaport who said, of course there's respiratory illness in Wuhan. It's probably the most polluted city anywhere on earth

because you basically can cut the air with a knife. Of course they're going to have respiratory illness there. It's not necessarily anything that's novel or new. Yeah, every day was just like a thick haze. You couldn't see half a mile away. That was every day like that. And then in the morning as soon as daylight all you hear is horn honking you know horn honking

until the end of it until the Sun went down and he stopped hearing the horns blowing but that was another thing driving in China I got myself an international driver's license and I was going to drive in China before I got there, but forget about it. When I saw the way they drive, I wouldn't even consider getting into a car driving there. Yeah, it's a free-for-all. Yeah, nobody uses the brake.

They just use the gas. They either hit the gas hard, or they hit it soft. And they go through intersections with no traffic lights, and there's no traffic jams. They just go right through it. Yeah. That is interesting.

You know, it makes us dependent. You know, the lanes and the traffic lights and everything make us dependent. If you go back and you look at YouTube and you look at old videos of early 20th century and stuff where they're first bringing in cars up to the 20s and the 30s even in some places, and you see there's no lanes, and everybody's just kind of floating all over the place, right? And, you know, people are not surprised because somebody's over in their lane. And so they're paying more attention than we do, right? And that's kind of a hallmark of it. But, of course, in China, that's the way everything is. And the traffic was amazing in terms of the concentration.

It was just go. Just go. Don't even hit your brake. Just keep going. And that's the way it was in China. So I didn't bother getting in a car that you had in your mind to drive in China. So you come back from China. And is that when you began your Geesebusters business?

Yeah. Well, during my travels in China, we drove past a park, and we noticed birds flying in a park, but they were kites. And we went over there, and I said, there's a few men flying the kites, and they look so real. So we went to the park, and I went to it several times, and I learned about these eagle kites, and I learned how to fly them. I learned how to build them.

And she had a cousin also that made them, and I started to buy them and bring them back to the U.S. So when I tested one when I got back from China, I went to a local place. The odds of being struck by lightning are less than one in one million. But when you hear this sound, you're probably heading indoors in a hurry. But did you know that the odds of getting shingles are one in three if you've had chickenpox? Why leave it up to chance?

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So what I do is I hook the neck of the bird to the line, fishing line, 15-pound test, and I'll pull out maybe 100 yards of line. And when I turn the handle, the bird goes straight up into the air vertically. And as soon as it goes up over the treetops, every bird in the vicinity of a half a mile to a quarter of a mile takes off so i was stunned when i first put this up on a long island park so you know let's face it most inventions are done by accident and i'd have to agree this this was definitely an accident so uh when i ended up putting this thing up, it was just stunning. My eyeballs fell out of my head when I saw what it did.

So after I saw what I had, I went into different locations all over the island. Har and I took videos, and we tried on all different types of birds. And everything, the outcome was the same every bird was horrified and took off completely so then i realized that i really have something here and then i decided to go out and apply for a patent so uh i ended up after four years i i did receive a patent and uh i was very fortunate to have this idea protected for all these years. But that's how I started the business, and what I did is I used a whistle when I scared the birds. So now, before I frighten the birds, I used a whistle, I launched the eagle,

and now every bird in the area is now conditioned to fear the sound of a whistle, either a seagull, a goose, any type of a bird will take off immediately when they hear this whistle. So it's all about conditioning, and that's really how I started this business. And then I went out and I started handpicking my customers. And, you know, this is where I am today. That's really cool. I never had to advertise, David. Yeah. When I first looked for my golf courses, my first golf course was Donald Trump's course up in Westchester. So the way I got that job is I called the greenskeeper, and I said to him, I says, hey, look, I got a new method of ridding birds.

I says, I guarantee my method. I says, if I don't get rid of your birds, I don't want your money. So the guy like little chuckled and laughed because how impossible it is to get rid of geese. He says, sure, come on up and give me a demo. So then I went up there the following day, like a little chuckled and laughed because how impossible it is to get rid of geese he said sure come on up and give me them so then i went up there the following day and uh he was there with his number two man and i went out in the middle of the course and and drove this eagle right out

in the middle of it and he had probably about 500 to a thousand geese scattered all over his golf course and this was a huge 18 hole course and it's all migratory geese because he's ready to open up in april uh beginning of april i think it was or tail end of march so the greens keep one of these birds out of here when he saw this thing go up he and him and the other guy couldn't believe and i heard him whispering so he came over to me he says he says this is great he says uh he says okay he says you start tomorrow he says just bring a proposal he said so that's how i got into trump's golf course and then uh after the the the rest was history after that so i saw quite quite of of entertainment on that golf course, I should

say, David. All the people that were members there. I think at the time when I was there, I think it was a quarter of a million dollars just to be a member there. That didn't even include greens or anything. That was the price just to be a member there.

I used to see people like Will Smith, and he used to play every day out there. I used to see people like Will Smith, and he used to play every day out there. Tom Brady from the Patriots, he would be out there all the time. Joe Torre. So I saw them all out there. And of course, I saw Bill Clinton one time out there.

And they actually closed the course for Bill Clinton. Secret Service. Did you see Jeffrey Epstein? Well, I didn't know what he looked like back then. He wasn't really in the news, but I can almost guarantee you he had to be a member up there if he played golf. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They were all out there.

And Trump would be out there, and he'd be teeing off uh he'd always be the first person to tee off he teased me off but still to this day you know yeah so so you know i see bill clinton and they closed the place it was just him in secret service out there and he was playing at the time, I believe it was, the president of Singapore. He was playing a round of golf with. And nobody would have known that except me and maybe another handful of workers that were there that day. But he's a terrible golfer, in my opinion. The way he swings a golf club, Bill clinton you could tell this guy never played golf

in his life i don't know what he was doing out there so uh it was funny i had some video of him playing and uh mysteriously it was stolen out of my my van one day my camera was taken with all my trump video wow all my video from china and and my Geeksbuster shirts were stolen out of my van. But that was all. They left the TV. They left everything else in there, the radio. But those were the only things that were taken out of the van. So it was great video, but I don't have it anymore. So when you would go out there, you have that very realistic model of an eagle,

and you would fly it for quite a bit, and you're blowing the whistle to condition the birds. How long would you have to fly the eagle and condition the birds before, presumably, I guess you would hand off the whistle to somebody there? How would that eventually? Well, when I go into a new place, say I go into a school district, David, Presumably, I guess you would hand off the whistle to somebody there? How would that eventually? Well, what I do is when I go into a new place, say I go into a school district, David, the place is infested with geese.

Say the school has six or eight, a district has six or eight schools in it. What I would do is I would go there, and I get there before the geese arrive. So what I do is I lay this eagle down, and I'll pull out my my line and I know they're going to be coming in and I just wait. As soon as I hear a honk coming I'll put my coffee down I pull out my handle and as soon as they're coming in for a landing I turn the handle and the bird

drives completely right out of their feeding spot and what they're doing is they do it's like they hit a brick wall when they see this thing going up and they do a complete u-turn and i'm hitting them with whistle as they're leaving so they're getting conditioned with the sound of the whistle with this fear and uh they get so scared they actually you can see the crap coming out of them in the air so i've actually had had goose crap on my windshield you know

which is almost impossible to get but it happens to me so that's how that's how frightened these birds are so that's the whole idea is to get them before they land so once they land they get they get a use for the location they start to feed and um and they'll come back the next day because they know they're not disturbed but when you attack them with the eagle before they land you put an end to this uh this this coming in because they'll always remember the next time they fly over that field it may be empty but they know that eagle could be around it and then they'll bypass it and go and move on to another location so what a school district i'll do this and i'll

do six or seven schools and i'll just run around for maybe two hours like a bread route where i make sure nothing's in there and by uh 9 30 10 o'clock in the morning my day's over whatever geese are in the area pretty much bunking down for the day and they're gonna they're gonna be put wherever they are at that time but that's where i go and uh usually that my day is usually over by 10 in the morning 11 in the morning that's usually it and then they don't come back and maybe the next day you'll have a few that might try a different school but when they see that eagle in that same location they'll bypass it and then the problem is solved and after uh four or five days of a clean out this place is eradicated and what i'll do is i'll leave the whistles with

my customers so anytime that there's a geese that might backtrack in a week or two later they blow that whistle immediately and that bird will jump out of there associating noise with the predator and this way you don't get droppings, David. And if something doesn't respond, then I get a call from the school district or the customer, and I come back and I recondition anything new in the area, and then I go back onto an on-call basis. So I got quite a bit of customers, but I just work on an on-call basis where these people aren't paying for geese control constantly.

I whistle train all the birds in the area, and this saves people money. And also, you're not going to get the droppings that you get with other services like border collie services and other types of geese control companies use. Border collie. Now, I've got a border collie. So, what do they do with the border collies? They just have them kind of watching and chasing them when they land? Is that what they do? Yeah are they doing the border collies they just have them kind of uh watching and and uh chasing them when they land is that what they do that's what they do they just have them they have them run towards the birds and then the birds aren't frightened because they know that's just the land threat yeah i got a threat that goes up into the air i could

put it up 500 feet a thousand feet and that's what moves them out of the area completely when you run a dog they'll hop over a fence and come back as soon as the handler is gone with the dog they get the timing down after a while oh yeah so what happens sometimes when i do with the eagle these birds don't want to give up the territory so they'll come in at nighttime and they'll feed they'll come in around nine o'clock ten o'clock at night they'll feed into a field with store fenced in where there's protection from predators and they'll hang out.

And those geese are so smart, they'll get out of there before sunrise and the customer will see crap all over the place, but they won't see geese. So what I do is I come in at nighttime and I'll put the eagle up and they are frightened when they see that thing go up in the air.

I mean, I can't see it go up in the air i mean i can't see it go up in the air but the geese can see this and i can just hear wings flapping and i also hit them with whistle so sometimes when you blow the whistle they'll fly into buildings and back stops and everything because they're really frightened and they get conditioned and it's very quick so this is really a foolproof method. I've been doing it for 20 years, and I do it with all types of birds. It's not just geese. I'm very good at doing seagulls also.

I know England has a very bad seagull problem. I know if I ever go there, I can make a fortune over there getting rid of seagulls over there, but I really don't want to go to that country yeah i know they've basically they repealed the uh the magna carta as well as uh any laws they had protecting freedom so yeah it's um i i think uh if we were to go there we couldn't avoid making a joke and that probably be enough to get me arrested so but yeah it truly is amazing to see that you know just the whistle training and everything getting them going um it's um

bf skinner you know he was able to train every kind of animal with whistle training and so that's essentially what you're doing as well yes like i was mentioning to you earlier if you want to uh condition your chickens to come to you, or if you lose one, anytime you feed your chicken, you come up with any type of a sound, and that bird will pick up and realize, oh, my God, it's time to feed. Let me get there. So you can have a sound deterrent to reward a bird and also a sound deterrent to scare a bird. Oh, yeah.

So it's really like talking to the animals yeah yeah we heard when we first moved here like i said there's a lot of hawks around here and i heard this screecher that that's an eagle and uh and it's not it's what it's what they use on tv programs for an eagle right when they use the the sound of a hawk for an eagle doesn't doesn't sound that impressive but the hawk sounds really impressive. And so they use it on all the films. And when I looked it up, it's like, oh, yeah, it's not an eagle. It's just the sound that the hawk makes that they have attributed to eagles.

So I guess they got me conditional. Right. They have a screeching noise, the red-tailed hawk does. And usually around this time of year, next month, I'll have a lot of red-tailed hawks. When they see my eagle go up they'll fly around it and i get a natural deterrent where i get constant screeching in that area from red tail hawks i've actually had red tail hawk come in and actually put holes in my kite but they didn't take me down david they put holes in it but they didn't take me down well i'll tell you i worry because we put up our uh we've got a small uh like a drone that is not a real commercial

drone or anything it's just kind of a consumer drone and uh we flew that thing up and boy the hawks all came for it you know so it's like i skipped that thing down yes and that's another thing uh i i believe a lot of this now this is my opinion they're believe a lot of this. Now, this is my opinion. They're killing a lot of birds. And, you know, they kill birds around airports because they want that freedom for that fly zone for planes. So they actually kill all the birds from a five-mile area. At least they do in New York, to protect airplanes. But if they start killing a lot of birds, I could see they're going to make more room

for their drones. Drones are taken down by birds. That's right. I had an article where the New York Police Department was using a drone at Coney Island, and the seagulls were attacking it, and they and ready to take that expensive drone down. And I told them I'd put the eagle up and I'd be able to protect your drone from birds. But I never heard anything from the police department on that. Well, right up there in that area around Long Island, because you sent me the information about the last Long Island duck farmer going out of business,

and we've talked about that a lot. But the latest news that just came out yesterday, 20 ducks, geese, and seagulls found dead on Long Island Beach, and they're being tested for bird flu. So this is being put out everywhere as if they died from bird flu. I mean, how common is it? I've said to you, if we've a pandemic of of wild birds carrying bird flu which is the way i'd like to present this uh first of all all of these um all of these chickens that are laying eggs they're not only in buildings but each of them

is in their own individual cage that's so small they can't even move and and and then you know you got if we if we had uh an epidemic of bird flu i would expect to see dead birds wild birds all over the place all over all the time and as soon as um you know so we've been talking about this for the last couple weeks and now you see several different articles being put up all at once saying oh look we found some dead wild birds well in this quantity, you know, 20 ducks, geese, and seagulls, is that all that unusual? I don't see that anywhere. I don't see birds dying anywhere, David. I mean, if this was a bird flu, you would be seeing birds everywhere.

Now, this is just one location, a small area at a beach. In my opinion, somebody could have poisoned them. Or somebody could have ate something in the water or something. But why didn't you see dead birds on the North Shore of Long Island? Why didn't you see them out east? Why didn't you see dead birds in the city? You know, it's just in this one location here. And they manipulate the words in the articles to make you think it's bird flu.

Mm-hmm. And nine times out of ten, I would say ten out of ten, it's not bird flu. It's somebody who probably poisoned them, or the birds just don't eat right this time of year. There's not food out there in the wintertime like they have in the spring. In summertime... Well, you know, back in Austin, when I was back there, we don't have them around here, fortunately, but in Austinin they have massive numbers of birds that they call grackles

and i mean i'm talking massive yes you know it's unbelievable the numbers yeah it's unbelievable the number and they just cover parking lots of the shot at the grocery store and stuff i do you see them all over the uh the power lines and everything now if there was some kind of an avian flu epidemic you would see a lot of these birds dying and and so you look at this and say well if even if you believe that there is a bird flu that is out there obviously if you believe that whole paradigm which i don't but you know if you believe that that it's there i mean wouldn't you expect to see if it's a if it's something that we need to be concerned about, that there'd be a large die-off of wild birds,

and yet there isn't? Absolutely. Right now we don't see it, but give it time. I just get a feeling they're going to ramp this up and you're going to see more and more dead birds and start putting the fear into people about wild birds. They're going to get people paranoid

like they did with COVID. To me, they're using the same protocol they did five years ago, but they're using it on animals now, David. I think it's disgusting what they're doing. They want to put these mRNA vaccines into chickens, which will transfer into the eggs,

and they're going to really poison our food supply. This was ingenious on their part to come up with the egg idea here because eggs, like you were mentioning earlier, it's in your bread, it's in everything that we eat and cook in. It's a very important food source that we've had. And now they're going to attack that and create a shortage. I'm not going to trust any eggs that are imported from Turkey, you know, the countries.

Where are they putting their eggs, you know? Yeah, they're turkey eggs. They're turkey eggs. Are they turkey eggs or are they chicken eggs? We don't know. Who knows what they're putting in this stuff, Dave. Yeah. That's right.

That's right that's right but you know as i was saying earlier and and you point out with the bread and everything those companies that sued the um you know the the the um the oligarchy of egg companies that were trying to create a little monopoly thing and fixing the price by keeping the number of birds low uh they were uh they had they lost their lawsuit from kellogg's and general mills and these because they they put eggs and everything they put it in cereal everything they go to the substrate uh you know ingredient that is there and everything from cereal to you name it and that's why kellogg's and these other companies were suing them because they were fixing the price of eggs you know and and keeping the supply low so it works out for them it they're fixing the price of eggs, you know, and keeping the supply low. So it works out for them. It works out for the government.

The government gets to build its bureaucracy. And of course, the government is always the handmaid of the big pharmaceutical companies. And I think that they picked this because they want to get the most visibility and the most freak out and the most impact on our food supply by going after eggs. Once they establish the idea that they can vaccinate without any regard to safety, food safety or anything, once they can vaccinate with mRNA, they'll do it to every animal every year. And it won't just be for flu. It'll be for every condition that they can imagine.

It just opens up the Pandora's box for the pharmaceutical companies. You're 100% correct, David. 100% correct on this. I believe what they're going to do, in my opinion, is when these geese molt in the summertime, I can almost guarantee you they're going to be vaxxing these wild birds for bird flu. So you're going to see them destroy the animal race by sticking this

mRNA vaccine into the animals now. We've seen what happened with humans. Now they're going to destroy the animals. And birds are innocent, David. The way they're killing these birds, David, and culling them, it's totally disgusting what I see. They use foam, David, you know, the way they're killing these birds, David, and calling them.

It's totally disgusting what I see. They use foam, David, and they foam these birds. They use firemen foam to put out fires and they'll spray this foam over the chickens. There'll be a million chickens in it. They'll just foam them and they suffocate the birds. And it's just a horrible torture of what they're doing to these innocent birds. Yeah. Oh, I saw that. I think I played it maybe here once where they were going in and putting the foam

all over the birds that were trapped inside the farm building, whatever you call it. The birds are jumping up out of the farm trying to save themselves they're saying it takes minutes you can hear them uh the the panic of birds uh i'm disgusted with these people you know because i have a humane uh method that i showed them 20 years ago when i came out with this and they've been blowing me off since day one, USDA. Yeah, and you sent me the correspondence that you had going back and forth with them, and you're saying, I've got a humane way to do this, and you talked about many different ways that they are killing the birds, poisoning them, everything. I mean, it's pretty amazing, and you can't get them to pay any attention.

Plus, I step on their toes. I've got a better method than the government. If you look what I do, it's a very low-cost method. I'm conditioning birds, and the lies that USDA comes out with, two big lies they come out with, is there's too many birds and we have to depopulate them. No, there's not too many birds. There's too many birds in places where you can't get them out.

That's why there's too many birds. It's not that there's too many of them. And also the other lie is when they round them up, certain places they would round them up in the summertime when they can't fly. They take them out of the parks because they'll be walking around for two months in a park when they mow. You know, there's water there. And what the government will do is they'll round them up and put them in a turkey crate. And they'll dump them off into some rural area but they're not a nuisance to people but now what

they do is is they pick that bird up and now the bird doesn't have a fear of a human anymore so they're doing this everywhere all over the country every year they pick up wild birds they put them down and then the bird gets released and that bird now doesn't have a fear of a human anymore that's why geese are so stubborn now In my opinion, these so-called wildlife biologists are turning these wild birds into white ducks. They're creating the problem. Also with hunting. What they do is they got all this hunting going on. They extend the hunting season.

And the geese aren't stupid. They're not going to stay in a rural area and get popped off with a shotgun they're going to go into the urban areas so they go into the cities they're protected there they're not being they're not being harmed and and they got everything they want their food water they're not being uh bothered they're not being shot and and the government created this problem and they're thinking they're saving, keeping the numbers down by increasing hunting. But like I said, nothing just drives them into the cities. They should have more, in my opinion, they should have more bird sanctuary places in these areas where the birds can go. And I can get them out of the urban areas.

There's no problem with that. And I whistle train the birds, get them out of these places. But they don't want to talk to me, the government. And we look at how many birds are in these urban areas. I mentioned the grackles before all around Austin. It's just amazing. I'm very good at getting rid of them, David. I can get rid of starlings.

Yeah, yeah. That's another bird that I get rid of very easy. All the birds I get rid of. Let's face it, the eagle's the top of the food chain in the bird world. So when I introduce this anywhere, they have to leave. It's like a natural reflex for a bird to fear this. I love your logo there. It's like a shield like the Raiders and you've got an eagle with an eye patch. That's what it is. I got to tell you about that, David. Yeah. The first time I had that up there, you know, people thinking I'm a Freemason.

It's a Masonic emblem. But it's not. I was really, I'll be honest, I was an Oakland Raider fan my whole life. Yeah, that's what I saw. I didn't see anything Masonic or that I saw the Oakland Raiders there. Yeah, yeah. So how I ended up going out there, my first trip to Oakland, I went to the Coliseum, and this was years before I even came up with this idea.

And I went to the stadium, and I'm on the upper deck watching a game. I'm seeing there's eight minutes left in the game, and everybody's leaving the upper deck, and I'm wondering why. And all of a sudden, I see a thousand seagulls above me, and they're crapping on everybody Because they know what time to come in during the game to get all that leftover food. Oh Everybody would have in brawlers, you know and watch the rest of the game with an umbrella That's the first time I got crap on on my arm so i experienced it myself so then when i came up

with this idea i really wanted to target the oakland raiders on this idea and uh and do some service for the oakland coliseum but i didn't get they didn't really want to contact me to raiders but i did get contact with the oakland a's and i ended up going out to Oakland, and I did a homestand with the Texas Rangers, and I proved that what I had worked fantastic, and every bird in the vicinity of the stadium was gone. I didn't have them hanging out on the field

and light poles and all the tailgate partying. That was all stopped, and then I was ready to do a uh contract with them the following year and then covid came out and they shut down sports and then the following year they only let how many people in there so there wasn't any food source and then if there's no food source you're not gonna have any birds yeah so uh and then uh the following year, the Oakland A's decided to move to Vegas.

So I ended up really losing that job. I really wanted to get my foot in the door into professional sports. But that was cold. It hurt everybody, that scam. Wow. Oh, yeah. It was just insane. And this is another scam of that sort.

When we look at it, know it hits the fundamental uh food source and then they've got one solution and one solution only you know we're gonna we're gonna make your life miserable until you take the vaccine right that's basically the same game we're going to make eggs unbelievably expensive until everybody agrees that we need to vaccinate all the animals and um and now what we're seeing and I think the wild birds are really kind of the central part of it. It's one of the reasons I really wanted to talk to you about this, because there's so many wild birds. I mean, people just need to go back and look at Alfred Hitchcock's The Birds,

and he talks about how many millions and millions and millions and millions of birds there are all the time and um and so we if if this was what they say uh then you know there's this contradicts everything that they're trying to tell us and so we know from looking at the wild birds that this is not true so they're trying to and as you pointed out they may go out and kill a bunch of wild birds we're now seeing uh besides the story where they said well we got uh we found 20 dead birds and they miss a mention a whole bunch of different dead birds. It's not like you had one flock and all of them died or whatever. But we've got a bird here. We've got a bird there.

We've got some ducks. We've got some geese. We've got some starlings that have died. And they collect them and come up with a total of 20 at Patchogue to tell everybody that they're there at the beach to try to build credibility for this and they get a lot of news organizations that talk about it then over in indiana we've got the indiana department of natural resources has evidently done some kind of a press release because there's now a bunch of different reports about the same issue they say migrating sandhill

cranes latest bird flu victims in indiana more than 1500 killed now they're saying that this is something that has happened over a period of time whether or not this is true or not we don't have any verification of this except we have the word of the indiana department of natural resources and they come up with a large number that they've accumulated over a season it's not like they all died at once or in one place and but this is the narrative that they're gradually starting to build now of to try to fill this in because i think they understand that the absence of any deaths from wild birds shows that this is uh is ridiculous But even if this were true, let's assume for the moment that you had 1,500

sandhill cranes that died and they died from bird flu. If that was true, it would still be a tiny drop in the bucket. How in the world then could you justify killing every egg-laying chicken

on a farm when one of them is supposedly sick with this stuff? How does that how does that follow what do you think about this well you can't it's a scam dave in my opinion there's no doubt about it in my experience i've never experienced dead birds uh like like they're saying and like i said if i see dead birds there's a good chance they were hit by a car or poisoned or something like that there's more birds there are more geese that are hit by cars than die of bird flu and they don't stick around either you

know you typically don't see them because something else gets them right and uh so i don't know when you look at it seems to me that is the uh as sherlock holmes would say that's the dog that did not bark the problem with bird flu is the wild birds that did not die. If this is really what they're trying to pretend that it is, then you would of necessity have to see that. That would have to be verification of it. And if you don't have the massive die-off of wild birds who are supposedly the carriers, if they're not dying from this and everything, how are these caged up, housed? Put them in cages, put them in a warehouse, these chickens, you know, how in the world are we supposed to believe that?

That's insane. But I have somebody who says that a good way to get rid of the hawks, if they're bothering our chickens as they are now, evidently, hang some CDs from the trees in the area and the hawks will stay away. How about that? Have you had that experience? I can get rid of a Jew and an eagle. Yeah, they won't come back at all, right? No, I can get them out. That's good.

Yeah. Well, anything else you'd like to tell us? Are you still doing the Geese Buster thing, or I thought I saw that you sold it. Oh, no a matter of fact i was working today i'm doing four school districts right now oh great right now to get ready for sports uh spring sports so i'm doing all these clean outs and getting these birds out of the schoolyards uh because they're getting ready for the the spring sports now but uh in this area where i have four school districts all these birds in this area around my office,

every bird here is completely whistle-trained. So if they do go into another school district, my customers have whistles where they just blow the whistle and the birds take off. Even if you see them flying over an area, if you blow the whistle, they'll actually change course, David. So you can change the course of the bird when they're flying into an area. That's why this thing, this should be into airports. I can't get into airports because USDA now controls the airports since 9-11. And they're not going to give their job, their work to me, knowing that I have a better method than them.

And they've been blowing me off for a very long time i've actually sold a method to them 20 years ago up in orange county in new york i took them to a different location so i cleaned out all the birds they loved what they saw and uh they they uh refused to contact me anymore they know what it can do and then they went into uh killing birds right after i sold this to them so that's pretty much why i was disgusted with these people yeah uh knowing that you have a humane method that's very low cost and effective and and they and they turn to uh to killing these birds and gassing them uh they're really disgusting people and they really should be arrested i don't know why these people aren't being arrested or getting away with

what they're doing. I mean, years ago, you'd be in the newspaper throwing a rock at a bird or something. I mean, they come in at nighttime and they'll slaughter thousands of geese. Round them up and take them to a gas chamber. And this goes on every year in the summer.

A lot of different parks. They go in and they speak to the local municipality. They make deals with them. And then when I try to contact the municipality to try to stop a kill like that, they won't return emails to me. So the fix is really in. And how it goes in, it really goes into the United States the uh united states humane society too is part of it when i sold the box years ago to the usda i get a call a week later from the united states humane society out of washington and they wanted to purchase one so i'm wondering how the hell did

they find out about me they found out through the usda they're friends with them. So I sold the box to USDA and also one to the Humane Society, gave them the training on a video. And I went to do a follow-up months later with the Humane Society. They wouldn't return calls. And I find out later on, I get the guy on his cell phone a couple years later, and the guy still has my equipment in his in his uh closet he's never used it and i and i said i said you allow the murder the killing of birds and you don't even promote this and you know he just keeps this thing in his closet not use it and then peter

peter never gives me the time of day so a lot of these uh so-called uh animal rights people uh a lot of them you know all they know how to do is take the money but uh when it comes down to the basic work they look the other way i think it was a couple of years ago i reported that pito was euthanizing animals left and right when they were telling people they were doing something i said they were just you know you bring them in they just would kill them right away uh that's what see over and over again jason barker had a couple of comments on here uh geesebusters he said i looked up the common reason for bird deaths the top was something in the environment changing or getting poisoned and he said how do birds in an enclosed area catch bird flu from a wild bird well they claim that it transfers through droppings

except that you know whatever but um uh jason barker also says i have a prediction they'll find dead birds soon at the site of the moss landing battery energy storage site fire in california that whole area was poison yeah well that's true that's true and there's a lot of different types of poisons out there. It doesn't have to be something that's deliberate. It's just, you know, when you have a big fire like that, it's releasing toxic elements as part of that fire. I agree. Yeah, it's going to be something that kills people. But they're not going to look at anything. They're going to attribute everything to the bird flu, just as every death was essentially attributed to COVID five years ago. Now we see that happening with the birds. Yes, that's correct, David. What I was going to say also is, go ahead. Go ahead. I had somebody on the phone here.

I'm sorry, go ahead. Okay. Yeah, I was just going to say, we're getting pretty close to the end here. I've got a couple of comments. HiBoost said, I have a specific whistle I play to my chickens when i get out there and they're trained to my whistle that's exactly right i hadn't thought about that you know i looked at clicker training and all the rest of the stuff and i had not thought about doing that with chickens but it's very easy to do i think that when bf skinner was doing this the first thing he did was did did

it with birds i think with pigeons or whatever right, one thing I wanted to tell you, David, is also I can take care of farms, poultry farms. I can take the wild birds and separate them from the domestic. Wild birds fly and domestic don't, the ducks. So I separate them and I get the wild birds away from the farms and also I whistle train everything there. I've already been working with a farm out here and we've been getting great results So I whistle train everything there. I've already been working with a farm out here. And we've been getting great results.

Where now I put the eagle up before the guy feeds his birds. So all the birds are out of the area. And he's feeding only his ducks and not wild birds. And the idea is to cut the food source of the wild bird. And after a few days, there was nothing coming back into the farm because the birds are not eating there anymore. The whole idea is to cut the food source of the bird. And once you do that, the bird moves on. It's a very common sense method here. Well, now they're saying they're going to spend a billion dollars on compensating farmers and on biosecurity and it's been about 500 million

dollars on on biosecurity uh what they need to do is contract with you you can become a billionaire right if they would use your stuff but they're gonna biosecurity i guess it's going to be vaccines i don't know what else they're going to do with it i mean you don't need biosecurity if you can stop the problem before it even gets to the farm. That's right. That's right. This is a real effective method, and it's a low-cost method, and they don't want to talk to me. They have this protocol because there is no bird flu. I mean, if there was something there, David, my phone would be ringing off the hook right now.

Yes, that's right. This is just common sense, and, you know, I know it because I'm right there on the front lines watching it all. That's right. Yeah. You're looking at the wild birds and how many of them there are. And if there's a bird flu, I think you would be out of business right now. And you're not. I would see it, David.

Yeah, absolutely. I'm not tripping over dead birds. People are calling you instead, saying, we've got too many wild birds. We've got to get them somewhere else. I'm getting a lot more action right now, David. Yes. Yeah. I've got a comment here from Shadow Boxer.

It says, sometimes these birds will eat poisoned rats or rodents sometimes. So, yeah. And Whistler says, I guess we're also going to see a massive bird flu outbreak in Palestine, Ohio, with all the pollution that is there. But everything, just as we saw with COVID, you know, we didn't have people dying of heart attacks anymore. We didn't have saw with covid you know we didn't have people dying of heart attacks anymore we didn't have anybody dying of flu we didn't have anybody dying of cancer everybody was dying of the supposed pandemic well we just got a couple of minutes here let people uh know where they can find you got a youtube channel right well i have youtube i don't use youtube because i don't like to use platforms that censor

i got videos on here but I don't promote it. I go on to Rumble right now. I have a Rumble channel. My website is geesebusters.com. If anybody needs to get in touch with me, they can get in touch with me through the website. It's springtime.

It's a busy time for me now. I'm picking up a lot more work. It's about another two weeks where geese are going to start laying eggs. I usually get there before they start to lay eggs. I cut down on the nesting. As soon as I start to see pairs hanging around,

I'll blow that eagle up. Once they see that eagle, they're out of there. They'll think twice about putting a nest there. So this is very effective. It's a foolproof method, David. It's a shame that I've been held down for 20 years by the government. And they're really pretty much offended.

If you think about the people that teach this stuff in the universities and the colleges, like Penn State, Illinois, University of Illinois, all these agricultural programs. I blow their research in the garbage. Most of their research is all done with border collies. They've never used this method before. They don't know how effective it is. And like I said, my videos don't lie on my Rumble channels. Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, we got a border call.

He loves to chase the birds, but they're smarter. They know that they can fly. So that doesn't get rid of them. Border collie is a good companion. Yeah. Yeah. But they're not going to get rid of the birds because the birds. But I think that's the key thing.

You know, the canary in the coal mine in this particular and bird flu is the fact that there aren't any canaries in the coal mine that have died and your profession is uh evidence of that and and what we see everywhere is evidence of it there's so many wild birds that we don't realize that we would see dead bodies all over the place if the bird flu thing was real it absolutely is not um but um uh so um yeah we've got a lot of comments here we didn't get to, but it was great talking to you, Rob. Appreciate that. It was a real honor being on the show, David. I've been watching you for a long time. Well, thank you.

I appreciate that. It's a great show. Thank you. And I appreciate the support, too. Thank you so much. You're welcome. And again, geesebusters.com. Don't miss geesebusters.com don't don't miss

geesebusters.com and there'll be links there where you can see his videos on rumble thank you so much thank you so much david having me on i want to say hi to my friends in the chat uh my my friend there uh birdhouse blues angry tiger jason karen carpenter, all the good people out there. You've got a great bunch of people that follow you, David. We've got a great community. I watch you every day. I don't get a chance sometimes to get in the chat, but I definitely listen to you. And if it was a real world out there, you'd be on Good Morning America every morning.

Well, thank you. That's kind of— Thank you very much, David. Thank you. Have a good day. And everyone, thank you for joining us. Have a good day.