The David Knight Show - Hollywood’s Great Reset, Crypto Fight for Privacy, Pagan Olympics, and the War on Christian Men

Episode Date: April 14, 2025

* Dr. Ted Baehr rips the curtain off Hollywood’s cultural “Great Reset,”* Aaron Day reveals a hidden war on privacy, with stealth CBDCs already in place* Dr. Peter Hammond unmasks the Olympics as a technocratic pagan ritual, mocking Christ and heralding a sinister “New World Disorder.” * Ken Harrison exposes why churches are caving to woke pressure, canceling Christian men’s ministries when brotherhood is needed most.  Dr. Ted Baehr, MOVIEGUIDE.com, joins to talk about the GreatReset in culture. After the interview, David talks about what he learned about the entertainment business from his interaction with movie executives28:06 Aaron Day, DaylightFreedom.org, The War for Privacy and Crypto-War Political PrisonersHorrific examples of violation of both rights and the rule-of-law in the cases of Roger Ver (FreeRogerNow.org) and Ian Freeman (FreeIanNow.org) and what you can do to help bring attention for their pardonHow we ALREADY have CBDC (just stealth and hidden)Aaron Day's Tyranny IndexTools for privacyFighting tokenization with tokenization1:26:44 Dr. Peter Hammond, FrontlineMissionSA.org, joinsThe Olympics are predictive programming for the pagan society technocrats want.professional, cash & slaves as prizes, even audience male onlyblood sacrifices, superstitions, idolatryviolent, sometimes fatalnaked competition, prostituteWhy would they choose the Greek Olympics as a foundationThe New World Disorder's spiritual message denigrating Christ — replacing the blood of Christ with wine, the body of Christ with images of sexual debaucherWhat does it tell us about the society they wantChristians need to run the race and compete as our ancestors have successfully done in the past 2:19:08 Ken Harrison, CEO of PromiseKeepers and author of "A Daring Faith in a Cowardly World: Live. Life Without Waste, Regret, or Anything Unfinished"At a time when men need brotherhood and a purpose more than ever, the message of local community of men to take responsibility for themselves and others is desperately needed. But many churches who would agree are afraid of the politically correct perception and have actually cancelled this Christian ministry.If you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-show Or you can send a donation throughMail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @[e-mail] App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Money should have intrinsic value AND transactional privacy: Go to DavidKnight.gold for great deals on physical gold/silverFor 10% off Gerald Celente's prescient Trends Journal, go to TrendsJournal.com and enter the code KNIGHTFor 10% off supplements and books, go to RNCstore.com and enter the code KNIGHTBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.

All right, welcome back. We have our guest, Dr. Ted Baer. He is founder and publisher of Movie Guide. Many of you know that before I got into this, Karen and I used to own several video stores. And so I used to rely on his publications quite a bit. And I'm real excited to talk to Dr. Bayer, you know, because of the influence that our movies have on our culture. And that's really how he is focused. His tagline is, he who controls the media controls the culture. And of course, politics and everything else is downstream from culture. I think when we look at this, we have to be wise consumers,

if we're gonna be consumers at all, of media. And of course, it's inescapable that we're gonna consume it. So thank you for joining us, Dr. Baer. Appreciate you coming on. It is a great pleasure to join you, especially somebody who comes from the video store business. Yeah, that was a lot of fun while it lasted. Yes, it was.

Yes. Well, you know, what we have right now really is kind of a great reset of distribution, isn't it? You know, they changed the distribution, they got rid of the video stores, which they were never really very happy about, frankly. But now, you know, I think they put the bullseye a few years ago,

many of them, you know, there's a disagreement within the industry, but they kind of put a bullseye a few years ago, many of them. There's a disagreement within the industry, but they kind of put a bullseye on the movie theaters. And now we've got number two, Regal has declared bankruptcy chapter 11. You've got number one, AMC, with 1,000 movie theaters. They are trying to issue some new financial instruments on Wall Street to kind of keep going. Um, what do you see happening, uh, with a movie distribution in the near future?

Uh, is it going to go streaming completely? Are they going to get rid of, uh, the, uh, the movie theaters? Well, you know, I have a lot of, uh, studio heads who speak at my class on how to succeed in Hollywood without losing their soul because studio heads usually know what's going on. And, you know, they say that it's, it really is difficult without the theater release because streaming doesn't give you a box office. So you know, most of the money made by a movie is overseas.

If you've ever gone to the Cannes Film Festival, which I've done a couple of times, friends of mine are, you know, middle European distributors, etc. They buy films based on the box office here. If it's an A movie, you know, they'll pay a couple of million dollars. If it's a B movie, they'll play maybe just a little under a million dollars. If it's a C movie, they'll pay a couple of, but that's the way you sell movies in territories all the way from China to Germany to Africa to wherever else. If we're still selling in China, which is a gigantic market. So people who come to me who are studio heads and the next one, I've got one of the best

studio heads in the business speaking in November and one of the biggest film financiers, et cetera. And they say, you know, when we try to recoup overseas, we've got to have a number and we can't get a number from streaming. In fact, Netflix just fired one of their people because he was jockeying the numbers. He was headed that to determine what was succeeding or not. you don't know what's succeeding on streaming it's invisible. We used to be more visible when facebook and everybody else was giving you access to getting the numbers but facebook was criticized for that cuz it doesn't do it anymore. So you have a tremendous problem.

So you have a tremendous problem without the audience that you know what the movie is worth overseas. And if 60% of the box office is overseas, you're in big trouble. So that's where we are today. We are in big trouble today. And it's not been easy. Now the theatrical business is always a tough business running theaters. I had a friend who was my daughter's godfather who was head of MGM and people like that. And he wanted to go into the movie business because they're showmen, they like to be showmen. That's what they wanna do. My parents were movie stars during the 30s.

So my father won the box office award and they starred in 62 movies and then they started on Broadway. The show must go on, the grease paint, the smell of the grease paint, the roar of the box office award and they started in 62 movies. And then they started on Broadway. Their show must go on the grease, paint the snow, the grease, paint the bar, the crowd. Yeah. Um, I grew up in all that business. So you want to be a showman, but the theaters are subject to the studios.

And the studios have really created the problem here with, you know, and they've got to get out of it. Um, for regal and others, regal used to be owned by a friend of mine. And then the company before that, but they bought was United Artists that was owned by another. These are Presbyterians out of Denver. What are Presbyterians doing owning? They in the case of my daughter's godfather, who bought the theater in

Atlanta, you know, he bought one movie and you get to bid on them, Annie. And if it's a big movie like Annie, you've got to give them 100% of the box office for the first two or three weeks. And if Annie is a bomb, which is what it was, it got bad reviews, you're giving 100% of the box office. Nobody's coming to theater. You've got to make your money back through overpriced popcorn. So people wonder why popcorn is overpriced because the theater is desperately trying to make their money back.

Anyway, we do the economics of the industry. So we do a detailed economic report and you probably don't want to hear more about, but I can give you all the economics and it's out. And so the theater is by saying, okay, this is Avengers. This is a big movie or this is, you know, avatar to, you know, whatever it is, uh, Tom Cruise, the latest, whatever it is. And we want a hundred percent for the first three weeks with that movie bombs, which often they do, you know, you can't guarantee it's going to be a success.

Then the theater is left with a empty theater and not enough popcorn and they're in big trouble. And they had a lot of empty theaters and it's one of the things that's gotten them, both of these chains are about $5 billion in debt because of the lockdown. But I think even more important than the money. This weekend is going to be worse because you've got two movie gods minus four, you've got Bro, which is about homosexual love and actually shows, fellatio and all that opening. And that's movie from Universal. And then you've got Smile, which is a horror movie and two friends of mine made it. And it's so negative that we gave it a negative four and only three stars.

The first one we gave two stars, uh, and negative four. So they're, they're a part. They're just awful. So, you know, you've got to be a real addict to go to a theater when the movie is just awful. Yeah, that's right. And, and that's why, you know, even though, uh, we always enjoyed movies and we got into the movies in the mid eighties when they had, um, you know, kind of capitulated because the Supreme court decision and said, all right, we'll allow the video rental

business to exist. And they opened up their, their vaults. And so we were excited because we were doing all the classic movies and we had a field day with that. That was a lot of fun, but then, uh, that started to die down and, you know, we started paying more attention to what they were putting out and it's the content and the content has amazingly gone down and really accelerating downhill as you're just talking about there. The darkness of Hollywood and your movie guide, you look at not only the quality of how the movie was done, but you have a separate rating in terms of, you know,

essentially the moral content of it, right? Yeah, the acceptability of the movie. Last year, just let me give you some quick figures, 90% of the top 10 grossing movies of the box office contained overt or Christian or strong biblical values. 90% of the overseas, it was like 1, 2.1 million. And I got to look at my figures if I'm going to get that correct. 2.1 billion out of 2.6 billion at the box office contained strong Christian or biblical content, streaming a strong Christian biblical. Now that's not because the movie companies, which are insane, and I love a lot of them, I'm not trying to be mean to them, want to get that content to do well,

it's because Christians, like your audience, want good movies. So they're choosing good movies, and they're choosing them out of the, you know, out of the field good movies. So they're choosing good movies and they're choosing them out of the field of movies. And like last year, Quiet Place 2 started off with The Lord's Prayer and Belfast Academy Award winner had strong Christian content. All these movies that were good at the box office, I can go through them all because one of know, one of my favorites is Boss Baby

too, where the parents have to go undercover and then features Christmas and everything else to rescue their kids from a Marxist school. That plot sounds so completely Christian that you think it must have been made by some independent filmmaker out of Texas, but it was made by a friend of mine who's a made the boss baby. And he, that's his beliefs. A lot of times the Christians behind the scene in Hollywood who make these movies are not the people yelling and screaming. And it's the same way with schools and everything else.

We've allowed the tail to waggle the dog. And because we have not spoken up and we've left the negative nabobs and the, and the confused and the pervert of the psychopath speak up, we've lost the culture. Well, let's talk a little bit about, you know, you see, um, uh, uh, the, the gamut has run all the way from right now we've got in the movie theaters. We've got a life Mark with a Kirk camera. And then we have that's about to stream out a little Satan. As I look at this based on my experience, um, there, there really wasn't any, uh,

really good quality, uh, Christian or family films when we were in the business that is really picked up and there is some good quality stuff that's out there. But the bad stuff has gotten much, much worse. And so I look at this and I see a real polarization in terms of content. And unfortunately, most of it is the really bad stuff. Like little Satan. I mean, how do you, how do you view this? And I think it's one of the reasons that I think your, your movie guide is very important because people need to understand that a

well-made film that has a really evil worldview with it, like something like a little Satan, is, is something that's really dangerous because of how well it's packaged. Right? Well, here's, here's the story on that. They don't, you know, a friend of mine was a producer of hacks on a ridge and he's produced a lot of movies and he says, you know, Hollywood now makes two movies, of movies and he says you know Hollywood now makes two movies one to make money you know to support 61,000 people at the Warner Brothers lot you've got to make money they got to pay the lot has to get paid

they need you know all the loans and everything else have to get paid you just said that about the theater industry so you know they'll make a movie that'll reach a broad audience and they want those even streaming like Andor's a very good streaming. And some of them are excellent. They make those to get the audience, but they also make a second category of movies to win Oscars and Academy Awards. So one reason the Academy Award business is going down is since 1991, and you don't want all this background, but anyway, since 1991, when they finally moved from honoring the big movies, you know,

like in the golden age, Sound of Music, et cetera, or my father's movies, you know, Crime and Punishment, et cetera, now they're honoring movies that are, that are quirky because the guys who are the main voters of the Academy are now the little independent producers. So you make two types of movies in Hollywood. They still have to make the big ones that are clean and wholesome and those ones will do well. You've still got Sonic

coming out with marriage and you know family and trying to be good but you have a lot of negative coming out and you even have movies that are, that are nice twists in terms of faith, like bad guys. So it's not like they disappear. They need those movies to pay their bills. Um, but the audience has to be clear that they're good movies and bad movies. And you've got to choose, you know what I've said all the time is you can't just, you know, pay, you know, free presumptions.

You can't just stereotype because every company, you know, like universal puts out a lot of good big film films and now it's putting out Broads, which is something that a major studio, um, it's such an evil film, pro-homosexual, fallatio, all of that, would not have put out 20 or 30 years ago. So they're doing both.

They think that because variety loves bros, all the insiders love bros, all these quirky people who have become psychopaths themselves love bros, they want that to win an award. But as long as those people win an award, the Academy Awards is going to crater and it's been cratering since 1991. That's right. That's right. That's what they want to see. And you're exactly right.

That's what we've seen, really, with Disney. Disney has made so much money by doing broad appeal, things like Pixar used to be. But now they just can't seem to pull themselves back from doing the art house self-congratulatory propagandistic type of films. I'd love to talk to you sometime about what has happened with Disney, but I know that we're out of time. I know you only had 15 minutes today. You're very busy. I appreciate your time. Appreciate you coming on again. This is Dr. Ted Bear and he is a founder and publisher of movie guide. He's been around the movie businesses, entire life, uh, knows, uh, many, many

people from the inside there. And he's got the inside scoop on, uh, what is happening with the films. And it'll help you to discern, uh, the content from the, uh, sizzle, I guess we could say, you know, the packaging. They can make it, they can package the worst stuff and make it look really sizzle and pop. So thank you so much for joining us. Very important service that I'd highly recommend to anybody. Thank you very much, Dr. Bear. Have a great day. Look forward to talking again.

Thank you. All right. Bye bye. movieguide.org talk about good versus evil, you know, as a Christians, we need to think about what we're going to do. You know, you can have a couple of different responses and usually some kind of a combination of those. You know, we can just isolate ourselves and walk away. But of course, you know, Christ says, well, I didn't come to remove the people, you know, my followers from the world. But so we can engage in the worldview. We can engage the culture.

We can try to expose that. Uh, some people will try to create content that transcends it. And I think there's a, uh, an opportunity for us to do all three of those types of things. I really hope I can get him back to, uh, talk about what's going on with Disney because he had, uh, uh, knew a lot of people who were in and around Walt Disney, uh, back in the day. And, um, uh, Dr.

Bear has been around for quite a while. I'll just say that, you know, what he was talking about in terms of how they would make a movie, uh, for a broad audience, uh, and, and try to make it a general entertainment film, and then they would make a movie for themselves. So one to make money, one that was the movie that they were going to make for themselves and for their peers. And that's what all these awards are about. It's really about being celebrated by your peers. Our personal story about that was when we got into the video business, it was all VHS stuff and some beta. Beta was kind of on the way out, but it was still a factor. We got in there that early.

So was it going to be beta barn or VHS village, you know, as, as the symptoms, but we bet our money on VHS and we went the right way. And then, you know, as, as laser discs came out, we carried laser discs. And, um, because again, we were, we were focused more on catalog titles, on older classic films and things like that. And, um, we had about 200 different genres at one of our stores packed into a small, uh, that, that was a real, uh, how do you, how do you convey that to people so they can find it and how do you store all

that stuff? You know, the store is about 6,000 square feet, but still we had 200 different genres and we had about 15,000 titles and things like that. That was how we competed against Blockbuster. They were all about the new release. We were about the catalog. But we would also get into the alternative, um, media, you know, so

as a laser disc would come out, we get into that as a DVD came out. We're very excited about that because of programmability of it and the small form factor of it. And, uh, as they were talking about their capability to be able to branch around things and of course, um, you know, you've had companies like clean features out of Utah that set up a business model doing exactly that hated by Hollywood. So they would, uh, uh, with clean features, uh, they would grab the movies and, and, uh, you could say, well, I don't want to see sex.

I don't want to see violence. I don't want to, you know, this or that you could check off different things that you didn't want to see violence, I don't want to, you know, this or that. You could check off different things that you didn't want to see. And they would, they had a player that they could program and so they would come in and they would essentially on the fly make an airplane version of a film. You know, we've all seen that. They would put out something that would be R rated and it might have nudity or something like that in it or some real heinous violence. And so they would edit that out or they would reshoot the scenes because you know that and when they would do that, you'd say, well, why didn't they do that in the first place?

Well, you know why they didn't, they did it because they wanted to flaunt the nudity. That's how they would get people to go to go to the films. But they would reshoot the films and, uh, you know, without the nudity, they'd reshoot some of the same scenes and they'd create an airplane version. And so you could basically create an airplane version of your own. And what they would do is you buy the player from them and then you would subscribe to their system and you would say well we want to watch this particular film and you download the instructions for it and then it would just branch around those particular types of things.

And Hollywood hated that, hated that with a passion. My experience with it, because I knew that existed and people were talking about that was going to be a capability. So we started renting the DVDs and I was telling customers when they're coming in the store and I talked to them about it, because I loved hanging out in the stores and just talking to people about movies. It was a good starting point to talk to him about it. Uh, cause I loved hanging out in the stores and just talking to people, uh, about movies. It was a good starting point to talk to people. And, um, and so we really kind of got to know people.

It's kind of like, you know, cheers. You know, people would, you know, uh, come in, you get to know them and you'd start kind of get a good idea. Kind of films that they like. So I was telling people that that was to decide if they've got the movie and you know you wouldn't and something you could watch with your

family so everybody's really excited about that so we went to a VSD a conventions video software dealers association was a trade organization for people who had video stores at rented videos and they would have studio heads there and one of these one of these meetings they had one of these conventions they had a of these conventions. They had a guy who was from new line cinema. You know, they're the ones who produced, um, Lord of the Rings and some other things. And so he was there trying to sell everybody on doing DVD in their stores, cause most people were not doing it in their stores.

It was still early technology. And so, um, after the presentation, I went up and I talked to him and I said, so I've got a lot of customers. I said, I know you can have different versions. It doesn't, you don't have to have, you don't have to have two different complete movies. You can just have it branch to different scenes or you can have it branch around scenes. And I said, I know that you have the capability to do that I said you have guys have any plans to do that and he said no absolutely not he said all the directors hate these airline things they hate that with a passion it's like because we get a lot of resistance from them we're absolutely

not gonna do it's like oh I was really shot down and within a couple of months they took a film I think was called crash had James Spader in it a really degenerate film if ever there was one it was about some guy who follows he's got some kind of a weird fetish where he follows around car crashes and he loves to get around car crashes and he finds it to be erotic or something like that. And what they did was when they offered that to us when it came to video, New Line produced that. And they offered their sick R-rated version and a much,

much sicker X-rated version. So that you could have it. It's exactly what I had talked to him about, about for the sick R rated version and a much much sicker X rated version. So that you can have it. It's exactly what I had talked to him about, about four or six months earlier. Exactly what I talked about, but they went the other way. And so when you look at it, and you look at Hollywood,

and you look at how dark these people are, and that's one of the reasons why we've seen this continual downgrade and downward spiral in the content. Because as Hollywood itself gets darker and darker their idea of a general film that the public would like to see gets even worse and

I Was surprised it was an excellent series That was put out by the BBC was narrated by James Mason and it was about the early days of movies, silent films. One of the best documentary series I've ever seen. They talked about special effects, they talked about the lighting, they talked about the camera work, they talked about what it was like to work in the early days at silent films and things like that. I can't remember the title of it, something about silver screen or something like that. But one of them was about the morality of Hollywood and what brought us, I think it was if I remember correctly the Hays Code, which

they didn't have that in the early days of Hollywood and they were doing some pretty crazy stuff, especially considering where the country was, right? they didn't have that in the early days of Hollywood and they were doing some pretty crazy stuff, especially considering where the country was, right? They're putting nudity and orgies and things like that in a lot of early silent films. And that caused the Hayes code. Again, if I remember, I don't know if that, I think that's what it was, the code that came in, that got very strict, you know, so you've heard them talk about how on a television program, it was married couple, they would have twin beds, they're not going to be in a double bed. And they had things like one character had to have,

if they're sitting on the bed, one character's got, have one foot on the floor, that type of thing. You know, they had rules like that, that were very specific. And that was a reaction to what had happened to Hollywood in the 1920s. Because when you bring in people who basically have a theatrical background, other things like that, that's really kind of the culture that's going to be there. So you take somebody who is flamboyant exhibitionists, because that's what the actors typically are, and then you mix in And then you mix in large heaps of money and a lot of fame.

These people go off the rails. I mean, it's just human nature. Very few people can handle that. And, and it just destroys them as we see over and over again, look at all the different stars who've, um, you know, their, their personal lives are messed. They're addicted to drugs and all the rest of this stuff. I mean, we look at them and we elevate them and yet we should pity them. They have horrible lives. They really do. And you look at this

documentary and say, oh, that's awful. I mean, I would not exchange places with any of these people. And if you're thinking about it, neither would you, if you only understand what's going on with them. And so that type of thing has always been there and it went underground because of the Hays Code and people didn't see the dark underbelly of Hollywood and yet it was getting worse and worse all the time. I think there is, it's not properly understood if you don't understand the spiritual dimension of it and I think Hollywood has been one of the most effective evangelizing and proselytizing tools for Satan that has ever been invented.

And it really has become dark and very, very powerful. And yet there is, you know, we're not called to run away from darkness but to confront it and you know we've had some spectacular successes from some very Christian films where the people have gotten the technical capability up. I mean that was, there were the first Christian films were laughable in terms of how poor they were and as as the storytelling capabilities and the videography and other things like that, the acting have improved. And now there's a lot of actors out there who are desperate to not be a part of that culture. So there is an opportunity, as I

said, you know, that Hollywood in general has gotten so much darker, but there now is a glimmer of light that is there. And so it's a good thing to try to support some of the people who are doing the right thing. And there are films out there now, as I mentioned, I haven't seen it, but Life Mark with Kirk Cameron, that's gotten very good reviews. It's about a young guy who is adopted and things that are happening with his... The Common Man. They created Common Core to dumb down our children.

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please keep us in your prayers. TheDavidNightShow.com All right, welcome back and joining us now is Aaron Day and he contacted me. We've talked in the past about gold and silver and crypto and we can talk about that a little bit today as well. But he primarily wanted to get on to talk about moves to try to get some of these crypto prisoners freed. And as I mentioned earlier, and we all know, because I've talked about this many times,

how the Democrats had a war on crypto, and we've got a lot of people who have been railroaded, unjustly convicted, and should be pardoned, and the hope is that Trump may do that. He has mentioned Ross Ulbrich, but there was a Free Ross campaign that went on for quite some time. Now there is a Free Roger campaign to try to free Roger Veer. Thanks for joining us, Aaron, and tell us a little bit about that. Thank you for having me. Yeah, this is one of the most

egregious. I mean, actually all of these cases are egregious. The Ross Ulbrich case and the Ian Freeman case. I think that Roger's case is actually shocked me more than anything else because I learned about crypto for the first time from Roger Veer in 2012. He, Roger earned the nickname Bitcoin Jesus because he literally evangelized this. He was the first retailer to take Bitcoin.

He was the first investor in Bitcoin related companies. He literally the first retailer to take Bitcoin. He was the first investor in Bitcoin related companies. He literally traveled around the world and his focus on this, because you and I have talked about crypto before, you know, as we look at what's going on with Bitcoin now and people buying Bitcoin through Blackrock ETFs and everything else, that was not Roger's vision. So if you got involved in Bitcoin from 2010 to 2015 if you got involved in bitcoin from twenty ten to twenty fifteen you got involved with the coin because you wanted an alternative currency to fiat currency you wanted something that fixed the problems of central banks

and money printing and you know what happened with the two thousand eight financial crisis and what happens with the military industrial complex blowing people up all over the world roger was the best person at articulating that vision and trying to spread freedom across the globe. And so Roger has an interesting story. Roger had actually been arrested and spent time in prison for selling fireworks. He was literally on eBay. He was literally the only person who was ever arrested for this. There were retailers that continued to sell the very same fireworks that he went to prison

for. The reason he went to prison is that he was very vocal. He was a libertarian and he would talk about, you know, taxationist theft and war is murder. And he was very consistent about this and he spoke out against the ATF. And this is very specifically why he was targeted. So he spent, I believe believe 10 months in federal prison. It was like around 2000 or so. And then, you know, he decided to leave the country.

So effectively, you know, he left, he started the process of leaving the country, you know, right after his prison experience. He had a hard time making that happen. I think he moved to Japan for a while, but then he formally left the United States and expatriated in 2014. And he paid an exit tax on Bitcoin. He went through the normal process, hired lawyers, hired accountants, and paid what he thought was his proper exit tax.

And the thing that you have to understand is in 2014, the IRS didn't even know how to treat Bitcoin. There wasn't any guidance. Is it an asset? Is it a currency? How do you do the tax treatment? On top of that, the largest exchange called Mt. Gox had just collapsed.

So in actuality, the amount of Bitcoin that Roger had, had he sold it, would have actually crashed the market completely. So he paid, you know, based on his professional guidance, he paid the amount of tax that he thought he owed, and then basically 10 years later, they come after him, after he's no longer a citizen in this country. And it gets even worse than that. And I think I had spoken about this before. Yeah. Roger wrote this book.

Let me ask you real quickly. What is the statute of limitations for taxes and stuff? He's right up on the edge. It's like it's very near the end. It's within 12 months of the furthest edge case on his particular situation. I'm surprised that it's that long really. I guess they've got a longer statute of limitations than they do for pedophilia, you know, which is only three years. Well, and there are a lot of different charges, and again, part of the problem with this is it's just retroactively they're making it up. So this is one of these things that's just baffling. But I had interviewed Roger on my podcast in April before he was arrested. He wrote this book, Hijacking Bitcoin, and I think that we talked about this book this is an important book because as i mentioned rogers vision has always been

we need better money for the world to help everyone to help the seventy one percent of people that make less than ten dollars a week it's it's about having money that's fast cheap and separated from state separated from banks and bitcoin is no longer that bitcoin was hijacked by people tied to the deep state it was hijacked by people tied to traditional finance and so Roger instead of just saying oh hey I'm gonna hold on to all this Bitcoin and let's see how much you know fiat dollars I can make he he's continued to push the envelope and he's continued to invest in and innovate

with it in crypto currencies that are actually fast and usable as peer-to-peer digital cash. And he wrote this book, Hijacking Bitcoin, that exposed what had happened to Bitcoin. And so it just so happened that three weeks after this book was published, he was arrested in Spain. He was thrown in the same prison that John McAfee died in. And he's been out on bail now for, you know, for six months, but he's silenced. He can't even speak about this. And so this book was really getting traction. And so now everybody's buying Bitcoin. Nobody knows the contents of his book. And now they're

going after him retroactively for this tax situation. And it's worse than that. They actually and now they're going after him retroactively for this tax situation. And it's worse than that. They actually raided his attorney's office. So this is actually more than just about crypto. This is about violating attorney-client privilege and trying to use that information against him. It basically sets a precedent that says

you can't rely on your lawyers and your counsel for advice. So this affects everyone. It's not just a crypto thing or a bitcoin thing. This affects everyone who pays taxes and everyone who uses a lawyer. And so it's a horrible case, but the most remarkable thing about it is he's looking at up to a hundred and nine years in prison. Like Ross. Yeah, that's the thing.

I've noticed this in so many different cases and it's not just about the crypto stuff, you know, with the Bundy Ranch and things like that. If they really want you for political purposes, they just get rid of, you talk about getting rid of attorney-client privilege, just shut down exculpatory evidences they did with Ross, Ulbrich and everything. They just throw all the rules off the table and they just throw everything at you. We've seen it also with the January the 6 people as well, many of these cases. It is once you get on their bad side and of course he is

really touching a nerve because he's offering people cryptocurrency not as an asset as you point out but as an alternative currency for people he used to trade with. Well, yeah, but it's even more than that so i you know again i i followed roger for for over a decade and it turns out he is supported all kinds of pro-liberty causes he supported with wiki leaks uh... he was the founding donor to the brownstone institute uh... he actually supported ross albritt i mean i was just in mexico at a conference i found out that he had donated money to rebuild uh... homes for the poor in mexico like there's a long list of things that was just in Mexico at a conference and I found out that he had donated money to rebuild homes

for the poor in Mexico. Like there's a long list of things that people don't even know about. There's what he does publicly in all of the investments that he's made, but he's probably one of the most generous and principled people promoting pro-liberty causes on the planet. And I think that is actually specifically why he's being targeted because he's very, very effective at it. Wow. So this is just kicking off this free RogerNow. Is that what it was? Yeah, freerogernow.org. And what is happening there? Are you trying to get some kind of a letter writing campaign or publicity for this or are there donations? What is Free Roger Now happening? This is a group of friends of Roger. This isn't my campaign,

specifically at all. This is just a group of people that are trying to support this cause. And what's being done is that similar to the Ross Ulbrick campaign, one of the reasons that Lyn Ulbrick was so successful was just her being tenacious and then also putting together a petition which over 600,000 people signed. So I was actually at the Libertarian Convention when Trump spoke about Ross's case. And so these petitions, and I guess they're calling it an open letter at freerogernow.org is a great way of showing momentum. And we want Trump to see all of the people that are supportive of Roger and his cause.

And so, yeah, we're urging everyone to sign the open letter at freerogernow.org. And that website also has information about the case itself and specific information. I'm obviously not a lawyer, so I'm not equipped to talk about the specific legal issues in this case. I don't have any information that's outside of what's in the public domain. However, at freerodgernow.org there's a video clip interview with Robert Barnes, who's a well-known constitutional lawyer who has been speaking on this. So we're going to

be sharing more, I hope he's going to be speaking more on this, but if you want to understand the timeline and the legal issues specifically, I recommend that people look at freerogernow.org and take a look at the Robert Barnes interview. Good, good. Has there been any contact that has anybody there with that organization? Have they been in any contact? Is there any hope in terms of anybody around Trump that they're aware of this situation or is this something that has there been any has anybody responded to any of this stuff from within the Trump organization? I believe they're aware of it and I'm actually pretty optimistic about it and I'll tell you

why I mean as you know we've talked in the past I've kind of had given up on politics and more on an exit and build kind of strategy but you know in this particular case there are a lot of similarities between roger and uh... president trump and in fact i wrote an article for the brownstone institute about this night kind of outline all of this but trump has had very similar experiences with the dvd fbi

that ro's experiencing. Trump has experienced multiple audits on an ongoing basis. He's had his attorney client privilege with Michael Cohen and others breached. So everything that's going on to Roger, I think that has happened also to Trump. So I believe there's going to be empathy there because here's roger successful guy exposing the truth and he gets targeted and harassed by the dvd fbi so i i actually think that there's a pretty good

pretty good shot here and i and i'm pretty sure people it is administration or incoming administration are aware of this and i actually think this campaign is going to do a lot to help uh... not only raise awareness about how horrible the case is, but also what an advocate for freedom Roger has been. So I think there's a real shot. And the other thing is, usually presidents don't pardon people until the end of their term. And we're in a completely different situation. I mean, we already know, I mean, he actually promised to commute Ross Ulbrich's sentence on day one and I think that there's other things going on with J-6ers and there's a whole variety of people that he might pardon right out of the

gates and so I think it would be great to have Roger on that list and I think there's a real shot that that could happen. Yeah and of course you know Matt Gates who he's tapped for attorney general, if he gets through confirmation, has talked about pardons for many of these people and is very much on board with that. I think though that the only way that Gates is, I think Gates' confirmation is going to depend on whether or not he can get a recess appointment because I think the Democrats will be able to block it with a filibuster and probably will. But if he's able to get Gates through, I think that really

does increase the chances for these types of pardons. No, I think it changes. And Gates has come out for pardoning Snowden. He's also come out very much in favor of Ross. And so I actually think he's absolutely dead on on these issues. So it would be great if he were confirmed. So I do think things are all lining up. So, you know, and again, Trump has made a big emphasis. I just saw yesterday that he's looking at buying a cryptocurrency exchange. He's made all kinds. I think he was meeting with the CEO of Coinbase, the largest exchange either yesterday or today. So, you know, to the extent that he's really tied himself to crypto, you can't be pro innovation and pro Bitcoin while crucifying Bitcoin Jesus.

But the key to it is going to be to get the word out there. And the tragedy of this is Roger's very outspoken. I mean, he's always been outspoken about the military industrial complex and all of these issues. And he's also very outspoken about Bitcoin and the fact that it was hijacked and the fact that he can't speak, that he's basically completely gagged has to be really frustrating.

So it's really important now that we raise awareness as quickly as possible because we've got this window between, you know, here we are, you know, past the middle of November and the inauguration is only a couple of months away. So now what we're trying to do is, you know, again from a grassroots basis, get as many people as possible to get the word out about the legal case and about Roger as a person. Is he still in Spain or did they extravaganza him to the US? He's still in Spain. And I extradite him to the US? He's still in Spain and I don't

know any specific details about this. All I know is that it took John McAfee eight months to go to fight fully the extradition process and McAfee lost after eight months and he actually was mysteriously ended up dead the day after he lost his final appeal to the Supreme Court in Spain. So Roger's been there for over six months. So I don't know what the timing is or what any of that process is, but certainly, you know, here's the other part about this, and this is one of the things there are memes about this. So Roger pays his taxes, hires professionals. They haven't even told him how much they think he owes. He's been offered no ability to settle. Like literally this situation is absurd.

They haven't even told him what to pay. It doesn't sound like they've given him any opportunity to settle. It's just very politically motivated. It's very clearly politically motivated. And look, I hope all these people, I hope the IRS is abolished and I hope that they look into the people that were deciding to target Roger. Yeah, the problem is it seems like it's a bipartisan move to increase the IRS that had a budget of 13 billion. They give them another 80 billion to buy out with artificial intelligence, another 80,000 agents. So yeah, I think they're going to keep that superpower to use that as a

weapon against their enemies. Both sides will probably use that. But it is amazing how criminal and the political persecution that is just right in your face. And we've seen this in so many different ways. The Democrats have openly come out against crypto. And of course, we have the SEC current chair who has tried to bring the Bitcoin under his purview and other crypto stuff. He's been sued by a lot of state attorneys general. It's expected that he's, of course, going to be replaced and so forth. So there's a real sea change there.

And so all of that, I think, bodes well. I think people ought to be able to be free to have crypto and And it was a full on full court press to criminalize crypto from the Biden administration even Shutting down banks that were solvent because they were on and off ramps for crypto that kind of across-the-board intimidation because they were going to force kind of across the board intimidation because they were going to force CBDC down our throats and they saw crypto as the competitor to that. But there's a dark side to this as well as far as the crypto stuff that Trump is in that I see.

I just wanted to get your take on it. I've seen a lot of people there. Of course, we have Lutnik who is involved with Tether and stable coins and other things like this. And there's a lot of, I was just talking about GOP congressmen who had gone to the COP29 all talking about carbon capture. Of course, there's a lot of talk about carbon taxes, putting that on the blockchain, having people be able to pay that and track it with the crypto stuff.

It seems like there is a coordinated move to kind of do a backdoor CBDC. That's what it looks like to me. And Whitney Webb has talked about it as well. What do you think about that? Is that something that you've seen any discussion of or have an opinion on? I definitely have an opinion. In fact, I'm writing a new book about this very topic because one of the conclusions that I've come to since I've been talking about this CBDC issue exclusively is we already have a CBDC. That's what I've realized. You know, everybody's fighting over definitions. And I said that, I'm like, okay, what is the agreed to definition of a CBDC? Well, there isn't one. So the Bank of International Settlements has one definition. People to WEFF have another, states have different definitions.

And so I'm like, okay, well, let's break this down then. Let's try to understand how does our current system actually work? Well, the way the current system works is the federal government issues an IOU to the Federal Reserve, and then the Federal Reserve creates money out of thin air, literally in an Oracle database. So when the federal government is writing checks and, you know, paying to blow people up and do, you know, Cal Fart studies and all database so when the federal government is writing checks and you know paying to blow people up and do you know cal fart studies and all the great things the federal government does with money

they're writing these checks on an out of an oracle date was that is by definition a central bank digital currency yeah now there are nuances to it we have commercial banks as well and they have their own oracle databases and microsoft databases and they make up their own money out of thin air backed by the Oracle database that the Federal Reserve has, but it is absolutely digital. And the origin of this money is the Federal Reserve in an Oracle database.

And so when you hear people talk about what they're concerned about with CBDCs, what are they concerned about? They're concerned about being tracked. They're concerned about the money being programmable, and they're concerned about being censored. Well, so then I looked into that. Well, there are 13 different federal government programs that are already surveilling our financial transactions. You mentioned part of it. The IRS is already working with commercial banks to analyze our financial transactions. That already happens. The NSA is

already doing bulk data collection on our financial transactions. Through the Patriot Act, they can come in without a warrant, seize a bank account, and then you can't talk to anybody about it if they give you what's called a national security letter, which says you can't talk about this with anyone, including a lawyer. What? Really? Yeah. So this new book that I'm going to do, actually it's going to expand on two things. One, we already have a CBDC and two, we already have a social credit system, which is by the way the tax code. But those examples that I gave, those are just three out of 13 different ways the federal government is monitoring our transactions. Well then we talk about programmability.

Well if anybody has a health savings account or a flexible spending account, these are basically debit cards that are tied directly to a bank that are programmable. These are cards that you can only use to buy certain healthcare related items from certain merchants at certain times. This is using the existing financial system.

The largest provider of health savings accounts is a company called Optum Bank, which is a bank. And so the money that we already have can be programmed. I mean, even when you think about when you use a credit card, if you travel, all of the fraud screening, you go somewhere and they shut the card off temporarily, that just shows that the current system can be programmed. But I know, as I was jumping into this,

you were talking about energy credits, you were talking about carbon credits, that type of thing. MasterCard has already created something working with Doconomy called the Doconomy UN-branded MasterCard, which tracks your purchases, tracks your carbon output, and literally shuts off the card if you use too much carbon. So this is a pilot that went on from 2019 to 2022.

And it's not that they're giving up on it. MasterCard continues to expand the number of partnerships, continues to expand the types of products and services that they're tracking carbon for. So again, there's no new system. So when people say, well, CBDC is coming, you don't need a new technological system to be able to program money and tie it to carbon. That actually has already happened with the existing system that we have.

And on the area of censorship, there was something called Operation Chokepoint 1.0, where numerous, like 20 different categories of businesses were basically lost access to credit card processing services and banking services. But I just recently found out that Barron Trump, Melania Trump, in addition to Kanye West, Nick Fuentes, and Dr. Joseph Mercola have all been debanked. And it's a growing list. So again, that's-

Well, I've experienced a little bit of that with PayPal. I had this program that was going on for five months, then all of a sudden PayPal and Vimmo discontinued my service. I can't use them for anything anywhere. And I contacted them, spent a lot of time on the phone with them, and I said, why was I taken off? I was never, I didn't do anything illegitimate. I was never given a reason and I spent two hours on the phone with a guy there and he said, well, the only thing I can find is just this letter says, shut this account down immediately.

And so that is rolling out. All these different things are rolling out. You're right. You know, you go back and you look at when they were talking about the massive stimulus checks and all the rest of this stuff, three and a half trillion dollars and stuff, people asked Powell, they said, so you're just gonna print up a bunch of money? He goes, well, we don't really print it, we just create credits on the computer, just like you were saying.

It's already digital, it's already there, they're already tracking people, they're already restricting people's access, debanking people, it's all with Nigel Farage in the UK as well. And so, they don't like you, they just kick you out of their financial system. And it's always done from the inside and it's always done iteratively. And this, I think, Aaron, is what's really

dangerous is that people are waiting for there to be some kind of a grand declaration. And of course, the Democrats might actually do it in that ham-fisted way. You know, the Democrats might come out and say, well, now as of say, well now as of tomorrow everybody's going to have to walk in a new way and we're going to have a new kind of money and all the rest of this stuff. But the Republicans and many other people, the more sophisticated ones are the ones who are more dangerous and they'll do it in the background iteratively and nobody will really understand what's happening.

As you point out, it's all collecting like with a master card thing. I've reported on that in the past but people don't see that it's it's invisible well so this is what I'm gonna put in the new book and you know you're right Whitney Webb has written a lot about this and I have as well related to stable coins and everything else what I've put together is what I call the the tyranny index CBDC tyranny index so we already have a CBDC we already have digital programmable money but what I've put together are the different elements of kind of if you think about the DEFCON system that we have, right? We go from DEFCON 5 to 1,

I guess, I think 1 is the worst, whatever it happens to be, but we're kind of already in the middle. So the end game for this is a single global digital currency that is tied to energy credits. That is literally the game plan. I've actually outlined this in my in my articles and that I'm going to further elaborate this, but we know who's building it. We know what the technology platform is. We know how it works. I mean, we know that nations are working on interoperability. So what the United States is doing with our CBDC isn't just related to a CBDC. They're going to tokenize all of our assets, our stocks, our bonds, our homes, our cars, our computers, and put it all on one platform with the same programmability and trackability,

and that's going to connect with other countries that are doing the same thing. They're designing these things to interoperate. So when cloud swaps, you'll own nothing and be happy. Well, the way we're not gonna be happy, but I can tell you how they're gonna get to the, you'll own nothing. And it's through this very specific process of digitizing all of these assets

and, and tying it all together. So I put together this Tierney index and you hit on a very important point. And look, again, I, I'm hopeful that the best thing Trump can pardon, and actually that is something that he can do. And that's a useful thing to do. But when it comes to this issue of CBDCs, I've analyzed the legislation that for instance, Cynthia Loomis and some of these other politicians have put out there and all of it adds to the Tierney index. The way the Republicans go about doing it is they say, well, we don't want CBDCs, but what we're

going to do is we're going to give the largest banks the exclusive ability to create what are called stable coins. Well, what is a stable coin? A stable coin is a digital programmable form of money. That's exactly what a CBDC is. And by the way, who owns the Federal Reserve? The largest banks own the Federal Reserve.

So this idea that somehow you don't have a CBDC or you don't have all of the features of a CBDC just because it comes from JP Morgan Chase or Wells Fargo is a false argument. And so I'm going to do, so when I roll out the new book, I'm going to really spell out this Tierney index. And then every time a piece of legislation comes out, I don't care which party it is, we're going to be able to rate it and understand it based on how it increases or decreases Tierney on the CBDC scale. But I think it's critical that people

understand that we already have a CBDC and stop looking at it as something in the future and look at it as something that it's already unacceptably bad today, but boy can it get worse. And it can get worse than people can even imagine at this point in time. I agree. Yeah, you know, so many people, oh, we dodged the bullet. We got Trump now and so now it's going to be wonderful for Bitcoin and we stopped this CBDC stuff. Not seeing, as you point out, the aspects of it that are already been put into place, not seeing who the players are. And even to the extent that you've got people like Howard Lutnick, who is very connected

to Tether, is also the co-chair of the transition team, the Trump transition. He's putting himself out for Treasury Secretary. I don't know. I mean, there's all this gossip about who's in and who's out and who's going to make it to this point. I didn't really get involved in that, but I've seen the articles talking about that. So you've already got that, and Hadron has just been introduced by the Tether people

as another way to tokenize everything. I mean everything. As you point out, you'll own nothing. Why? Because they will tokenize everything. Not just financial assets like stocks and bonds or other things like that, but also land and everything else will be tokenized. And that'll be the way that they will be able to steal it from everybody.

And they're well on the way to do this. So that's really, I think I think Aaron what our task is. We have to get people to understand what this new scheme is. Whenever you see this change of the guard what it is it's about a rebranding, it's about you know getting people confused and thinking well things have changed when they haven't really changed but they rebrand, they regroup and they come at us from another direction but it's always fundamentally the same thing isn't it but it's always fundamentally the same thing, isn't it? It is always fundamentally the same thing. And so this is why terms matter.

I mean, and propaganda is in this area of CBDCs and technocracy in general. This is where they really control the battlefield because they keep on shifting definitions. They've made people think that CBDCs are something that are coming in the future without actually addressing the fact that there's something that that's already here now as long as they move the goalpost out and keep making it look like it's more tyrannical and adding more tyranny to what the actual definition is people will be lolled into the sense of complacency believing that you know they're not already in a situation where they're tracked and you

know the great taking is another component of this. This is how they're going to basically take control of our stocks in 401ks. They've already done it legally. In fact, I wrote an article about this. In a way, we've done this to ourselves because we signed these click wrap agreements. I think Amazon has a 12,000 word agreement

for using their service. Wells Fargo has a 30 page online agreement. The Microsoft Terms of Service are 70 pages. So the average American signs between 150 and 400 digital click wrap agreements every year. Does anybody read them? No, they don't. This has actually been shown. Somebody did a study on this and they actually put into the terms of service that you will literally Give your firstborn child to the state and you will give up all of your data to the NSA and 76% of people Actually signed the digital agreement. And so if you were to read all of these agreements, it would take an hour a day

365 days a year So literally it's a life sentence of reading if you were to read these contracts But we are giving away in these online agreements is everything. We're giving away our privacy, we're giving away our data. There was a recent case where somebody, a doctor, had eaten at a restaurant on a Disney property and died of a food allergy. Yes. And Disney tried to use the Disney Plus online service agreement to get out of the lawsuit for the food poisoning.

And that just goes to show you, you know, particularly when we're dealing with these large contracts with multinational corporations where we have no idea what all the companies are that they own and what everything is. So we've done this. We've given away on the stock front and on 401 401ks, we've already given away our voting rights. When people say BlackRock and Vanguard own all of these companies, well, it's actually technically not true. It's our money, right?

They're just represented, it's assets under management. Well, there are assets, or at least so we think there are assets, but the thing is we've already given up our voting rights. Usually when you own a share of stock in a company, that entitles you to vote on things. But with 401Ks, that's not the case. We give fidelity in all of these brokers and third parties the ability to vote all of our shares. So we've given up our voting rights.

And then the next time there's a major financial collapse and there's a bankruptcy, let's say your broker goes bankrupt, you might think you would own those shares, but we don't own those shares. It turns out because of changes in the law, our shares will end up going to the four largest banks through the bankruptcy process because those four large banks will become the large secured creditors. So legally, the infrastructure has already been set up. We've already signed away our rights. What's happening with CBDCs and the ability to tokenize these assets is that's going to make it so that when there's a collapse, they can literally take everything with a click of a button.

And that is the, that is a scary thing. So my next book is going to go into that in great detail. And I, again, I'm going to be very rigorous about, about showing people this, but I will say again, to go back to Roger, the reason Roger is so important to me and the reason that I'm spending so much time talking about this is not only did I learn about Bitcoin from him, but I've been living on crypto, gold and silver since 2019. I started using Bitcoin Cash, which is a fork of Bitcoin. Roger didn't start it, but he promoted it once there was this whole block-size war and

everything else. It's basically the original version of Bitcoin where with you know low fees and that's made to be used as peer-to-peer digital cash and then recently Roger had introduced me to something called Zano which is a privacy coin because in essence the way we're going to defeat CBDCs is we need to actually have privacy with our digital currency and what Roger and Ian Freeman and Ross Ulbrich and others have learned and what the public is still not aware of is Bitcoin is a public ledger and these transactions

are open and in fact there's a database, there are tens of thousands of copies of everybody's financial transactions and databases all over the world. Yeah, I saw that with a, let me just jump in and give the example of a guy who was a billionaire and he had nearly a million dollars stolen out of his wallet and he didn't know it. And some guy contacted him and he said, did you know what was going on with this? And he goes, I didn't even know that. And I've talked about that many times.

You know, it's a public, first of all, it's a public leisure, number one. Number two, you know how easy it was for somebody somewhere to steal that from him. But everybody can see that. And this guy had connected it to him. Yep. And people aren't aware of that. So now they're using something called chain analysis to be able to

track all of your transactions. And so, uh, so the key moving forward is privacy. So Roger introduced me to this, this project called Zano. I was just in Mexico. I just met with the development team, the whole team. And it's an incredible project. And again, Roger has been pushing the envelope on, you know, we need peer to peer digital cash. And in fact, one of the ideas that I'm working on is, you know, I'm working on launching what I'm calling a gold-backed privacy stablecoin. So in other words, we

talk about Tether and all of the issues regarding Tether. I will tell you it is my personal opinion that tether is going to implode and when it implodes it's going to take Bitcoin down with it because the price of Bitcoin has been propped up by tether. Tether has essentially been printed out of thin air. We don't even know if the tether is backed by anything. In fact... Yeah, I just saw they added like another 7 billion dollars or something, which is a significant percentage of what was outstanding. It's a significant percentage.

So what happens is if Tether runs into issues, the price of Bitcoin will drop and that will provide the perfect pretext for them to ratchet up a CBDC. They're gonna say, oh look, we tried these other solutions. Bitcoin's not stable in terms of price. Tether was, you know, problematic and, you know, or possibly even fraudulent. And so we're going to have to

give complete control over CBDCs and stable coins to the Federal Reserve and to the largest banks in the United States. It's already being teed up for that. And when you read the legislation, Cynthia Loomis, again, these Bitcoin people love her, but she has laser eyes and everything else and she talks about a Bitcoin strategic reserve. Read the bill that she drafted with Gillibrand from New York. She wants to ban algorithmic stable coins explicitly. She's against privacy and she is for increasing KYC, know your customer, anti-money laundering laws, adding more layers of compliance for the individual and compliance for the exchange.

This isn't the way forward. And so we are facing this. Now let's say, now let me put out an optimistic hat. What should happen is they should pardon Roger and then the Trump administration should actually listen to Roger. Yeah. I think that Roger- Make him the Secretary of the Treasury.

Yeah, well, make him Secretary of the Treasury or just listen to Roger. Yeah. I think that Roger- Make him the Secretary of the Treasury. Yeah, well, make him Secretary of the Treasury or just listen to him. Read this book because if Trump's true intent is, if he wants the United States to be competitive in this crypto space, then he really needs to listen to Roger. So this is why I'm so adamant about promoting Roger because he's not only been an advocate for freedom, but he's actually probably the most influential person in terms of Promoting solutions to the CBDC issue, which is probably why he is where he is. Oh, yeah. Yeah Let me back up a little bit you were talking about Zano. Is that something that is under development or is that out there already?

It's out there already. It's actually Z-A-N-O. Okay. And it's Z-A-N-O dot org. This is a fascinating project and it's probably the most, it's underappreciated, but most people just don't know about it. I think part of it is that it's very technically sophisticated. The main developer who started this project has been working on these things for 10 years. He actually developed some of the original technology behind Monero, and Monero is widely considered to be the most popular privacy coin, and this guy was there at the very beginning. And so Zano itself has been around since 2019 and so they've

actually been building the technology for this for five years. The team has worked together and it already works. So basically it is a privacy coin, but the added feature to this is it allows you to tokenize other assets with the same level of privacy that you have with Monero. So I'll explain why this is important. So money represents 5% of global assets. Real estate, stocks, bonds, everything else, all other non-monetary assets make up that other 95%. Excuse me, as I was mentioning, when they roll out CBDCs, they're already working on a technology when they roll out CBDCs, they're already working on a technology to centrally tokenize all of our other assets so that they can control everything. They can control our real estate, our investment portfolios. So we need an answer not only

to CBDCs, but we also need an answer to this project to centrally tokenize all of our other assets. Monero is what allows you to do this and so I'm actually working on a gold backed privacy stable coin. Or you mean Zeno. Oh, okay. Is that Monero or Zeno that you said allows you to do that? Zeno allows you to do that. Zeno allows you to do the tokenization. So basically Zeno, you can use it as a currency in its own right, like Monero, but it also allows you to tokenize these other assets. And so some of the use cases for this are, I mean, again, in the future,

you could tokenize stocks, bonds and everything else, but the immediate applications are, you could create a gold back stable coin that is private. So imagine now you're able to use a cryptocurrency that is actually backed by gold that you could physically redeem for gold, but yet the individual transactions remain private like Monero. That's one application of Zano.

Another application that's being rolled out is we talked about the fact that Bitcoin and Ethereum and Bitcoin Cash, these other cryptocurrencies are transparent. You can actually use Zano to make Bitcoin private. So there's this, I don't want to get into all the details on it, but there's something called confidential layer that's going to allow you to take your Bitcoin, bridge it into Zano and make it private. So, so really, what Zano is, is it is a blockchain that is specifically for enabling you to to make other assets private. And to me, this is actually of critical importance, because in the grand scheme scheme of things the big battle that we have right now is we're fighting against technocracy were fighting against the movement towards

a one world government where everything is transparent at least to the people that are running that show so privacy is actually the answer to this so all of the solutions that we're going to be looking to are going to be privacy protecting solutions and technologies and i think is andano is actually at the forefront of this. That's great. Yeah, you know, we had Life After Google, the book about that and what he was saying was he said privacy is going to become a real commodity and I think you know the problem is is that people don't value

that enough, you know, when we look, is that people don't value that enough, you know, when we look at privacy. And so if we value that enough, then we will find constructs to do things like that, like you're talking about with Zeno and other things. I've got a couple of questions for you. DG8 says, David, can you please ask Mr. Day about XRP Ripple, fast, low fees, but the only crypto listed as a WEF business partner. What do you think about Ripple? I'm not a fan of Ripple but again I want to say specifically what I do and I do workshops around the country and increasingly next year around the world where I teach people how to use crypto for their day-to-day transactions and I'm also onboarding

merchants to be able to accept crypto. And one of the criteria for me now is it has to be private by default, because what we're really fighting up against here are CBDCs, and so we need privacy. So I'm really looking at Monero and Zeno as being the preferred options. What coins do from a speculative price perspective, I don't know, I'm not an expert at that. I'm looking at the utility of the projects and with the understanding that we need to be able to trade with one another outside of this beast system.

Yeah, yeah, I agree. Brian and Deb McCartney ask, if you know, are we already in BRIC Fed attended the bricks meeting in Russia she said No, I Do not I have not seen that but I certainly I can't imagine that we're in bricks. Okay and of course that other one we've already talked about about Monero pirate coin and Zeno they also put Darrow. I. Is there something called Darrow? Is that another one? There's another one and I think they had some technical issues with this that were exposed earlier in the year. But I'm not, by the

way, I also want to say I'm not a maximalist. So there's one, there's an interesting thing that happens. I was just in Mexico at a Monero-Topia conference and so obviously the focus was primarily Monero, but there were other privacy coins there. It wasn't just limited primarily Monero but there were other privacy coins there. It wasn't just limited to Monero. And we had a lot of interesting talks there because particularly if you're a libertarian, for some reason, you see the technocrats want one global currency but yet somehow we've

gotten into this mode where there are people that seem to think on the libertarian side that we should only have one cryptocurrency, like bitcoin should be the only cryptocurrency we need people want to be maximalists and it seems to me that uh... the marketplace is the best way to settle this in that the idea itself that we would only have one currency doesn't make sense you should have ongoing competition and that's one of the things i like about the privacy spaces that there are a lot of projects and there's a lot of innovation being done uh... on an ongoing basis and so uh highly recommend people take a multi-asset

approach but with a very specific emphasis on privacy. I want to go back to something you said earlier because you hit the nail on the head. This is a real challenge. So when I do my workshops, most of the people in my workshops are boomers, Gen X are boomers. And here's what I've found. Older people value privacy, but aren't as technical. They find technology a little bit more cumbersome to use and younger people don't value privacy. There was a Hado survey that found that almost a third of Gen Z would be

okay with the federal government putting security cameras in people's homes. So this is the real challenge right now, which is, you know, we have to get younger people to value privacy and we need to make the tools easy enough for older people. That is actually the path forward here and that these are the sticking points that we have. And I, you know, I know there's a lot of work being done on that. There's a whole privacy acceleration movement and I know that there are a lot of people that are looking to try to get privacy out in the forefront. I mean, privacy is a right. We have the Fourth Amendment, which, or at least we had the Fourth Amendment. I mean, this is something that people, you know, we used

to assume by default, but I think, you know, between George W. Bush and everybody else, they've been pushing this, you know, narrative of, you know, if you have something, if you have nothing to hide, then you have nothing to worry about, right? And so there's this idea that if you want privacy, you must be a criminal, you must be a terrorist, you must be a money launder. And the truth of the matter is that when you look into who's actually doing these violent activities, it's not people using privacy protecting technologies, it's the people trying to suppress other people from using privacy protecting technologies. And so we have to do a better job of marketing why privacy is important. I don't want privacy because I want to buy illegal things.

I want privacy because I want to be able to buy organic vegetables in the future. I want to be able to buy red meat or I want to be able to buy organic vegetables in the future. I want to be able to buy red meat or I want to be able to buy raw milk. And this is something where, what is it, you know, uh, what most people buy as normal products today are going to be black market items in the future. And so, but they need to be educated on why, why privacy is important to make sure that that doesn't happen. Yes. Very well said. Yeah, I absolutely agree with that. And you know,

you talk about how marketing privacy to people. I think they marketed Big Brother to people. As a matter of fact, I've always thought that these programs that began, you know, the Big Brother reality TV show where everybody lives their life in front of a camera, I always thought that that was the purpose of it. It came out before they started social media and it was kind of this gradual acclamation of people, hey hey these people who are nobody and they don't have any special skills or abilities or whatever but they become important celebrities by letting everybody look at their life and then we got everybody

chasing likes and and followers and all this other kind of stuff now on social media and so that's really kind of for the last 30 or so years, that's been what they have projected out there. The people growing up see that. And to them, that is a way to be liked, a way to get famous, a way to get money and all the rest of the stuff. So yeah, they have really trashed privacy. And we've got to somehow get that generation, the younger generations to understand that.

I've got another question for you here. We go in advance as, does your guest know of a speaker who can address professional financial organizations such as the CFA society and the financial planning association? It can be in person or virtual. Do you do that type of thing? Well, I mean, I'll address anybody. I guess the question is what is the topic? But I'll talk

to anybody about these issues. And I do know, and I have spoken in front of groups before, the problem is for a lot of people that are registered financial advisors, they're very constrained by what they can do. I mean, I could go on a whole conversation about this. I actually spent a lot of time looking at FINRA, which is basically the governing body for financial advisors. And I was considering going through their program because I wanted to, a little bit of a side story, but I wanted to be able to figure out how to use tokens, digital tokens, as a way to kind of replace stock. So basically to be able to create a private stock market using tokenized stock instead of going through the formal process. And so once I learned how the existing system works through FINRA, I realized that's not

possible. FINRA is basically a trade association. It's a cartel of organizations in the financial services industry, but they have the backing of the SEC. So they basically can come up with their own rules, but then it's enforced by the state. And so then when you look at what's going on here, it turns out they don't have much of an incentive for true innovation specifically in the financial services sector itself. But I'm happy to talk to people about all of these things. I would love to talk to financial advisors about fiat currency,

the history of fiat currency, the current state of the United States dollar. The Brownstone Institute has actually done some research recently that kind of shows what true inflation is versus what has been reported officially by the government. The dollar has lost somewhere between 25 and 40 percent of its purchasing power since 2020, if you actually look at the real underlying numbers, we've actually we are in a recession, we've been in a recession since 2022. So I'd love to talk to you know, groups about this. But it's really outside of their training. And it's an outside it's outside of what their mandate is, because

when they provide financial advice, it's within a within their certification. And what they're certified to teach people is, in my opinion, against what is going on and against the economic reality of what we're facing right now. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, when you look at any government statistics, when you look about inflation, unemployment numbers, consumer confidence, they rig the process and then if that's not enough, they just outright lie. You know, like we saw with the unemployment numbers and it's like, Hey,

uh, yeah, we're just, we got to revise what we told you, uh, three months ago. Uh, we told you that there were 800,000 more jobs than there really were. Um, but that's not there anymore. They constantly do that. They're constantly revising the previous quarter's numbers to create a positive trend for them. Everything they do is a lie. It's absolutely amazing.

Gard Goldsmith says, it's sure great to know good people like David and Aaron are out there doing this, talking about this matter. I hope more folks will speak out. Of course, Gard has a Liberty Conspiracy. Everybody can catch that weeknights on Rockven as well as on X on Twitter. But tell us where people can get your information. You got a podcast, you got a sub-stack, you got some books that tell us a little bit about,

do some self-promotion here. Sure, I'll do that, but before I do that, I wanna say, you know, so right now when I'm focused, I'm writing this book and really going into detail, not only on CBDCs, but we already have a social credit system, it's the tax code. Right? Even if you look at how 401Ks work, they use the penalties and incentives of the tax code to drive our behavior. We just don't have a user-friendly app that tells us how it's going. So I'm actually going to go into that detail in the book, but I do want to

say, since Gardner brought this up and I haven't mentioned it yet, there's another campaign. In addition to freerogerNow.org, there is a parallel campaign going to FreeIan Freeman and that is FreeIanNow.org. And Ian is in federal prison for eight years basically for selling Bitcoin without the right paperwork, although it's much worse than that. The case against him was completely made up. work, although it's much worse than that. The case against him was completely made up. Prosecutorial misconduct is probably an understatement. They brought in undercover agents. They did a whole variety of different things. But if you go to freeiannow.org, you can learn all about that case. And so there's an initiative to bring awareness to this as well.

I actually think Ian has a good shot at winning on appeal, so he's still under an appeal process and so you know hopefully he'll have some success with that. But I will say Roger learned about Bitcoin from Ian. So Ian has been involved with Free Talk Live, which is a syndicated radio show that he and Mark Edge had been working on for a couple of decades. And Gart is working with that now. Gart is taking over the program while he's incarcerated doing some broadcasts for that. Yeah, we've talked about that before. And I will tell you, I just saw some, I think 10% of the people that are part of the Free State Project here in New Hampshire learned about it from Free Talk Live.

So what's happening to Ian is also a travesty. But I mean, as far as my work is concerned, I'm working on this book, but I am going to be spending a lot of time promoting Roger, concerned, I'm working on this book, but I am going to be spending a lot of time promoting Roger Ian and even working on an event hopefully before the inauguration that may include Assange and Ross Ulbricht and Snowden as well to try to really build some energy and momentum around this pardon concept. But I'm at daylightfreedom.org. And there you can learn about everything that I'm up to, the workshops that we do around the country teaching people about CBDCs and then how to actually practically use crypto gold and silver for day-to-day transactions.

You can find me on X at Aaron R. Day. And I do have a podcast, The Aaron Day Show, which we cover very interesting topics. I mean, a lot of it is related to CBDCDC, but a lot of it is also related more broadly to the concept of exiting and building some non political solutions. So I had a guest on Sterling Lujan and we talked about network states, which is a which is a new and interesting concept. So the idea is, you know, the way to stop centralization is to create more more countries if you actually look at how

most governments have evolved they've either been you know somebody just came in by force in the dictated the way society was going to run the u.s. was a little bit different but there hasn't really been a lot of experimentation on governance and so there's this new model where people are basically uh... getting together based on a common interest uh. People that have a kind of a shared ideology and then they're going out and trying to buy sovereignty. And so this is kind of a new movement. So anyway, that's not a big part of what I do. What does buying sovereignty look like? I

mean, buying real estate in a particular area or what? There are a lot of different models and this is part of why it's it's early But some of it involves trying to actually buy by your own You know political sovereignty from a nation to actually get a carve out from a country so that you can actually have your own Political system and political structure I mean like a gates just did and that African nation where he has diplomatic community and he doesn't have to pay taxes And he's got a place to run to if the legal hassles start mounting up as they have and in one jurisdiction they said

he's got to stay in trial I think is the Netherlands or something but he went to what was it Kenya I think he went to Kenya and and I guess paid off some politicians so you'd have diplomatic community and tax free existence. Yeah I don't think that's quite the model we're looking for here I think we're looking for more you know creating a community of people free existence. Yeah, I don't think that's quite the model we're looking for here. I think we're looking for more, you know, creating a community of people that have a shared ideology and they're experimenting with governance. But of course, you know, Bill Gates takes any concept and stores it to the detriment of humanity. He's got enough money that he can distort anything. That's absolutely true. I got another question here for you. DJ says, can you ask Mr. Day about Jeff Berwick,

a huge supporter of privacy coins who would be a good guest on the David Knight show. Tell us a little bit about, do you know anything about Jeff? I don't know. I've known Jeff for a while and you know, he's a, he's a great, uh, advocate for privacy coins. I'm actually going to be speaking at his event in our Capoco in February. Uh, and he was just at this, uh, this event that I was at in Mexico City. So yeah, he would be a very interesting guest to have on. And he's been very early into crypto,

and an interesting guy in general in a variety of different ways. I know he's gone through spiritual transformation as well. So he probably would be an interesting person to have on. Pete What do you mean by spiritual transformation? Tell us a little bit about that. I mean, Jesus, I don't know a lot of the details about it, but he just, you know, went through some things in his personal life and kind of, you really changed his attitudes and behaviors and you'd have to talk to him about all of that. I don't want to represent somebody's spiritual journey, but I'll leave it at that. I just wonder if he became a follower of Bitcoin Jesus or something.

Just joking. I just wonder if he became a follower of Bitcoin Jesus or something. Joking. So you met him at the Zeno conference, I guess it was that you were just at? That was Mineritopia, but no, I've actually known Jeff. I met Jeff probably 10 years ago. Okay, good, good. Well, it's great talking to you and thank you so much for everything that you're doing. This is really at the core of freedom because it's always money that makes the change that control us, isn't it? You know, and that's one of the things that concerns me about the blockchain. It almost sounds like we're being chained to a block and it's going to be something like that. If we don't figure out some methods for privacy and freedom and so really do appreciate the

work and the research that you do, Aaron. It's always great to have you on. You're always welcome to come on any time. And folks, he's talking now about freerogernow.org, also freennow.org. And so if you would like to speak out on behalf of those people, try to bring awareness to them. Hopefully the same thing will happen as we expect to see with Ross Ulbrich. And that was Free Ross and I know that his mother has worked on this. Lynn has worked on it for such a long time. Is she okay now? Is she still involved

with that? Do you know anything about Lynn? Oh yeah, I met her probably 10 years ago at a pork fest event, and I've actually talked to her recently. She's an amazing person. Yeah. In fact, if anything she- I'd like to get her on again. I've talked to her multiple times years ago, but it's been a few years now since I've talked to her. I'd love to talk to her again. Yeah. She is the single example that shows that what one person can do, if you actually, if you care and

you put in the work, like it is just remarkable to see what she's been able to do. Even when I was at Monteratopia, I mean, I was actually wearing, I'm not wearing it right now, I was wearing a free Ross shirt. The whole community down at this event is supportive of Ross and then it's all because of just, you know, how persistent she's been on it. it so she's great I think she's a tremendous person and you know I think at this point she's probably just probably doesn't want to rock the boat too much because it looks like the situation is locked in Trump has tweeted on this three or four times and it looks like it's gonna happen so I'm really really happy for her. I think he'll do that. I mean, you know, it would be a way for him to deliver on some campaign

promises. It'd be a win. It'd be easy for him. And we just hope that we can get some publicity for the other people, for Roger Verin, for Ian. Free ennow.org and freerodgernow.org. Try to get some of these other people. And it's so good to talk to you. Thank you, Aaron. Appreciate it. And that's it for today's broadcast, folks. Thank you for joining us. Have a good day. Thank you. Bye. Thank you. I just saw, thank you, Amber Goal. I appreciate the tip. Thank you so much. I just saw thank you Amber Goal I appreciate the tip thank you so much I just saw that thank you so much have a good day everybody. The David Knight Show is a critical thinking super spreader. If you've been exposed to logic by listening to The David Knight Show, please do your part and try not to spread it.

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I've talked to him in the past about his amazing life and experience doing missions in South Africa and through the southern part of Africa, going into Marxist nations and the Muslim nations. And he had a very interesting take, I think, on the Olympics. Why are the Olympic Games promoting paganism, perversion, and blasphemy? He had a...but it's an overall comprehensive take on the history of the Olympics, the ancient history of it, as well as how it's being used to push the New World Order and many other things. So joining us now, and of course, let me tell you where you can find him at frontlinemissionsa.org. Dr. Peter Hammond,

thank you for joining us, sir. Dr. Peter Hammond Thank you so much, David. I'm sure we've all been absolutely horrified over the deliberate blasphemy, and it's not just offensive to Christians. That's not so important. How I feel isn't very important. The important thing is blessed to me and it's offensive to God, Almighty God our Creator and the eternal church before whom each one of us will stand. And you know, it's kind of extraordinary. First of all, have this nonsense that the Olympics committee claims, oh, it wasn't meant to offend anyone. We were just wanting to have a tolerance and inclusion. And interestingly, at first they said no, it wasn't meant to be a

parody of the Lord's Supper based on Leonardo da Vinci's iconic painting. No, it was actually meant to be some pagan festival with Dionysus, and yet it bore a remarkable resemblance to Leonardo da Vinci's iconic painting. And the press received on the program that this would be the Last Supper. In fact, even sets and press releases beforehand, the program was distributed to the people on the banks of the Seine River. That section of the procession of the opening ceremony was going to be the Last Supper. And you had an interesting take on this, which I had not talked about. When I talked about it, I said, you know, we've had parodies of the Last Supper.

It's a piece of art and so forth. A lot of people have done parodies of it. But the thing that was interesting about this one and so offensive was the fact that they combined a parody with the botchery. And your take on it was interesting, because you talked about the subtext, the fact that it was Dionysius, a bacchanalia, and talk about that, the wine aspect of it. Now, we've seen at Olympics openings, they've been going increasingly back to the pagan roots of the Olympics.

And you can see, you know, whether you're talking about Athens or Atlanta or Barcelona, London, they all have been getting increasingly more pagan type of occultic even ceremonies, which is going back to the roots of the Olympics, which always was dedicated to Zeus and a whole pantheon of Greek gods. We're grateful that they don't sacrifice hundreds of animals and engage in animal cruelty at the beginning of the Olympics, which they used to. Yeah. Never the nevertheless. That may be coming. I don't know. But now what they're doing is, if you think the Lord's Supper is so critical to Christian

faith, this isn't about Leonardo da Vinci. This is about the Lord's Supper. They're not trying to mock Leonardo da Vinci, the artist. They're trying to mock the Lord's Supper because the Lord's Supper symbolizes, I mean, this is where the communion service was inaugurated, the lost supper before our Lord was betrayed and crucified, the body of the Lord symbolized by the bread, his body will be broken for us. And the wine is symbolic of his blood shed for us. This is at the heart of our salvation. And now in this Olympic

ceremony, opening ceremony, which of course, costs millions of euros put together, this is a massive operation. And you have the Greek God Dionysus, who is the God of wine and the God of the Bortry lying on the table where the bread and the wine should be. So you've got the Bortry instead of celebrating salvation. They are replacing just celebrating sin and remember Christianity believes in salvation from sin. Whereas the pagan religion of saboteanism, which many of the modern elite told you is salvation through sin. You are saved through sin. In fact, it is through debauchery, through breaking all the laws

of God. It is the whole Sabatayan religion, which is at the heart of the Illuminati, for example. Sabatayanism, which started in 1666 through Sabatay Zibi, which is obviously the religion of many of the elite in the Hollywood government today. You can see it. Harvey Weinstein and Jeffrey Epstein epitomized sabbatanism, salvation through sin. You deliberately break all the laws of God and you throw yourself fully into debauchery. So you celebrate sin instead of celebrating salvation. Yes, instead of Christ's sinless body, what you're doing is you're using the body to

create sin and to celebrate that, and as you pointed out, salvation through that sin. It is an interesting juxtaposition. And then of course, you know, the wine aspect of Dionysius and the Bacchanalia, you know, saying that the wine is not representative of the blood,, it's wine and it's drunkenness. Yes, and it's almost a religious ceremony that you engage in debauchery and getting drunk. This isn't a sober recognition that my sin led to the broken body and the shed blood of my Savior, which is of course something of repentance and regrets in our hearts and souls as we look at it. This is terrible what my sin caused, the suffering that this caused my Saviour,

but instead they are celebrating a debauchery, they're celebrating drunkenness and it's got almost a religious significance. They really do worship their sin, they celebrate their sin, they love their sin. That is obviously the religion of many of the elites in the world today. Bear in mind that despite obviously the religion of many of the elites in the world today. Bear in mind that despite the huge amounts of outrage around the world, the French church outrage, Christians around the world outrage, and even Elon Musk and Donald Trump and the Speaker of the House of the US, House of Representatives saying this is disgusting, this is shameful, this is outrageous. This is shameful. This is outrageous. And yet the French president Macron, he comes on and says, we're proud of this.

And this ceremony is about who we are as Frenchmen. And the mayor of Paris also said that they're proud of this and this is wonderful. This represents who they are. You know, blasphemous junkards and anti-Christian pagans. They are actually proud, they're not actually rebuking this chap. Now, interesting that the person who put this together, you know, putting some freak show of perverts and people who look more like the degenerates in the Hunger Games Pan Am, the capital of the Hunger Games scenario.

All with their weirdly dyed hair and their bizarre outfits. And you've got the bearded man or the bearded woman who's dressed in this provocative type of dress with a whole lot of things hanging out. And absolutely gross, disgusting, bizarre freak show. And transvestites and perverts and a whole LGBT crowd. They're not celebrating tolerance for all kinds of religious beliefs. They're celebrating only one kind of religious belief and that's LGBTQ and a whole perverted bunch and the trans crowds. This is

what was being promoted there. And this is what the French president and French mayor of Paris claims they're proud of, and this is about who we are. And they paid millions of euros to put together this whole event, which by the way, it's got more than that. Obviously, attacking the heart of our salvation, the salvation of Christ, is very bad. But they also have the Pale Rider of Revelation riding down the Seine, carrying the Olympic banner. And you know, the pale rider, hell follows after him. And you can also think of the golden cough that's up on the platform with the Olympic rings. So why would you choose a golden cough? And it reminds us of the games.

Right. That's just a coincidence. Right. That's not, yeah. Well, yeah. President Franklin Delano Roosevelt said in politics, nothing happens by accident. And that was also in different words, um, by the, uh, American ambassador to Britain, Joseph Kennedy, the father of president John F. Kennedy, Joseph Kennedy once said, in politics, there are no accidents. That's right.

And I think that this is true. And people don't spend tens of millions of euros on something if it doesn't epitomize what they believe. You can be sure the opening for the Olympics was not just approved by the Olympic committee. It was approved by the French government and the Paris city council because it represents all of them. And they wouldn't have been allowed to bring it to fruition unless it had been approved on the national municipal level, as well as the international Olympic committee level. And so they've got all these bizarre things, including a figure of Mary Antoinette

walking around decapitated with her head under her arm, which is not even funny. I mean, that's disgusting. Yeah. The French revolution, beheading 30,000 people, including women and children. It just, you know, it's not something to be proud of. It's part of French history, but you know, there's many other things they could have celebrated. They could have had John the Arch.

I mean, you think of France has got some great history they could have turned to, but why did they have to turn to paganism and occultism and even anti-Christian blasphemy? Is that really what they are about? Is this epitomizing the New World Order and the powers that should not be? I think it is. John Ankerberg Yeah, and it's nihilism, as you pointed out, you know, the pale rider, the death that was there, the golden calf, all that stuff is very deliberate when they…they think a great deal about the sets

that they have and the symbolism that they put out there. This is not an accident. And as you mentioned, we've got Republicans who criticize it, but they're still going to fund it. And you got Jill Biden, who loved it. Jill said, this is just great. And so she loved it as much as the Marxist mayor of Paris and as much as Macron loved it. So they're getting what they want. And of course, in the lead up to this, they're bragging about how they changed all the laws and are setting up all kinds of surveillance and things like that, which is going to remain. That's going to be part of the permanent infrastructure to create more surveillance, more of a police state.

And so it is really pushing us into that new world order, isn't it? Incredibly so. And this isn't just the Olympics. We've been seeing statues and monuments to all kinds of pagan gods over the years. The Athens Olympics, of course, they had Zeus, they had Athena, they had Eros, the god of love hanging over it all. They had under Eros, there's a bunch of these frolicking scantily clad people touching and releasing one another and Eros hovering over them. So they've had a bunch of pagan depictions, centaurs, half man, half horse, launching shafts of lice at the beginning of Olympic ceremonies. At Atlanta it was also extremely pagan and lots of the ancient pagan Greek gods. And after the Athens Olympics, it was said, Zeus must have been very pleased, never has so many people worldwide sung his

praises and never has he had such a large flock. And so it seems that the powers that should not be the globalist New World Order are using these Olympic events, which let's face it, over a billion people watch these opening events. So this isn't, you know, somebody offended somebody at a school play. This is the biggest global event and the New World Order crowd cannot help, they cannot resist the opportunity to promote their religion. I mean, consider if you and I were invited to speak at any major event, no matter where it is, we wouldn't object our faith. I couldn't help you, it doesn't matter where I'm invited. I've been in universities, army bases, I've been in Muslim terror camps, I've been in communist events, I've been in cults, churches, moments, jobs, witnesses and others. At every occasion I've

brought in the gospel. I can't help it. That's who I am. And I've got my message and I'll bring it in. Well, the International Olympic Committee chose a well-known LGBTQ activist who's into the trans movement and so on to put together this whole debauchery on the Seine river. As some people said, this was insane because the name of the river is the Seine river. So what you saw was an insane opening ceremony to the Paris Olympics. The whole ceremony was done on the Seine river. And it's like an open sewer, just like the same itself is an open sewer. The, the imagery is as well. It isn't open sir, because the seven 77 kilometer river,

it's like the heart of Paris and Paris has built around the same river. And interestingly, you'll find this almost impossible to believe. I mean, I don't understand how it's possible. They spent a billion Euro. That's Euro. Yeah. A billion Euro to clean up the sense of it would be clean up for this operation. And Paris must do a lot of litter and pollution.

If it costs that much to clean up the river. I mean, I would have thought a million Euro could have done the job, but what do I know? But they didn't clean it up. They've got athletes who are in the hospital with E. Coli. I mean, the two of them are in the hospital, so it's pretty bad. You talked a lot about the original Olympics, and I think it is kind of interesting that, you know, to contrast the ancient Olympics with the modern Olympics. I think that's very important because when the Olympic committee also got under criticism because some

Christian athletes have been forbidden to have Christian symbols on themselves. On one case, a man on a surfboard, a Brazilian athlete was warned, you get the imagery of Christianity off your surfboard or you're disqualified from the Olympics. So when they were criticized, they said, well, the Olympics are very strictly non-religious. Really? Non-religious? That is not true. The Olympics have been from the very beginning exceedingly religious, pagan, of course, but very religious. So the original Olympics were all done

in the name of Zeus and in fact, the whole pantheon of gods and every athlete had to swear allegiance to Zeus and there was a procession which involved taking the sacred fire, the embers, up to the temple of Zeus and the priest carried the embers up and they put the fire in which is now symbolized by the Olympic torch coming and lighting and the torch has to start in Athens. It's all very symbolic and so on. And so this is all pagan worship. And then they sacrificed a hundred bulls. There was a lot of animal sacrifice before, during and after every Olympic game. So every single Olympic winner had to sacrifice after their winnings to the temple of Zeus. And by the way, one of the rewards for the Olympic athletes who won was prostitutes from the temple of Aphrodite,

who is meant to be the goddess of love, so-called, and more like goddess of lust. But the original Olympics were exceedingly pagan, lots of religious activities. And for the Olympics committee today to say, we have strict neutrality, there's nothing religious. Well, what do you call worshiping Zeus and Eros and Dionysius and all these other things? Are they not religious? I think when I say non-religious, what they mean is non-Christian, because they're certainly not non-religious. That is just not true. And so the original Olympics were exceedingly violent, by the way. Not only were the killing of animals for sacrifices before the Olympics and afters and after every match, but there were one of the Olympic sports was a pentachrome.

And that was where you could use anything from chokeholds, dislocations of arms, breaking of bones. There were really almost no rules. And one of the famous athletes, Dionysius, he was specialised in thrusting his fingers into the person's abdomen and ripping out his intestines. Another one of their contestants specialist breaking fingers. And so that was one of the sports. The four horse chariot races were famous, exceedingly popular, you know, think Ben Hur. But these chariot races involved gory pileups, people were often disfigured beyond recognition, in a very gory with people cheering these things on. So the Olympics were really bloody Olympics

and not just violence of poor animals who were sacrificed, but violence of the contestants. And by the way, the contestants had to compete completely naked. Of course, only men were allowed to participate. Women were not allowed if they were married. Married women were not allowed in the stands and they'd risk the death penalty like being thrown off the nearby cliffs head first if they attended in the stands.

But single women could attend and prostitutes from the temple of Aphrodite were part of the rewards for winning athletes. So, you know, the original Olympics were not, I don't know why we couldn't have launched an international sports event that wasn't rooted in ancient Greek paganism and was such a checkered past. I mean, was it really necessary? I think it's time for us to launch a new form of international sports. We don't need the Olympics and the Olympics seem so corrupt and so anti-Christian, so pagan. and after this so blasphemous, I

don't know how Christians can want to participate. I come from a sporting family. I've got several of my children have won national colours and represented our country overseas. So my wife was very much into sports. And so we love sports. My father used to run the Western Cape cricket union. So I feel a little bit of a traitor to speak like this, but we're not against sports. Of course, Christians are not anti sports per se. We're against idolatry and paganism, but the Bible does have a lot of athletic terms. So we read in the Bible about running the race and keeping the faith. And in 1 Corinthians 9, the apostle Paul speaks about every athlete goes into strict trainings to compete in the games. And they do it for a crown that will perish, but we do it for a crown that will last

for all eternity. And he speaks about how we've got to subdue our body and make our body our slave, that we will not be disqualified so that we can run the race search to get the prize. So these are good biblical images. 1 Timothy 4, we read that physical training is of some benefit. That's not of eternal benefit, but it is of some benefit. Our body is the vehicle with which our soul travels this earth to be useful on earth. So physical sports is lifted up as something commendable, much like being in the military or being a farmer is lifted up as a model of the Christian de Sarp's report. So we can learn from sports. And I remember being brought up in school in Rhodesia, where sports were taught to us as to teach us how to be team players, to teach us

how to play according to the rules, to be gracious winners, to be gracious losers, to play the game for the sake of doing it right. And so in some ways they said sports was preparing us for life, other times they said sports was preparing us for war. We were told by some teachers, war is the real thing. Sports is just the practice. You know, when you learn some of the skills that you're going to use in the battlefield, you learn on the sports field. And so I'm not against sports, but the Olympics have become absolutely debauched and pagan. And the hostility to Christianity is such that you can understand why so many people, including Elon Musk and Hobby Lobby and others have said

they're boycotting the Olympics, withdrawing advertising. And even after all this protest, you still have the American, the French president saying, he's proud of this and this is what we are. And this is what we are as Frenchmen, as Parisians. And well, it shows you they are so committed to their pagan religion that these powers that should not be the globalists are willing to alienate a lot of people, a lot of sponsors. It's not financially viable

to do this. I don't know if you've noticed, but the stands are often empty and they're having trouble selling tickets to the Olympics. People are not filling the stands. People are boycotting. Many are bored out of their mind. Yeah. Or disgusted. And so the Paris Olympics have had the lowest attendance ever. They've never had such, such bad attendance. And of course that's excluding the COVID cult.

Walk down the legacy of the Tokyo Olympics, which was postponed a year and then they still didn't allow spectators and stands, but it all had to be remotely, which that's going to be one of the most dull Olympics ever. What's an Olympics without spectators? Well, they seem to, but the masquerade madness, lockdown, lunacy, salvation by vaccination, COVID cult was more important than the Tokyo Olympics. But now you can see the paganism and the anti-Christian blasphemies more important than a successful Olympics. Olympics are meant to be about sports, you would think. But notice how

politics is intruding more and more. Now, intriguingly, you might have noticed that Russia and Belarus are not allowed to take part in the Olympics in their own name, with their own flags, and they're not allowed to have their national anthem played if any of them win anything. So they're there as individuals, not under the country, the continent march and the country's flag. Now I find this interesting because throughout the entire cold war, the Soviet union was never excluded, even while they were oppressing and tormenting and murdering millions of their own citizens. That's an excellent point. I had not heard anybody else point that out. Yeah.

That's amazing. Yeah. I mean, just think that the Soviet union was invading countries, fomenting wars and terrorism all over the world. And when they invaded Czechoslovakia in 1968, when they invaded Hungary in 1956, they were boycotted from the elections, from the Olympics. So this is kind of interesting. But at the same time as the Soviet Union and Red China were marching in the Olympics with the red

flags for the stars and Hammers and sickles and so on. We in Rhodesia and South Africa were being boycotted from the Olympics. We couldn't take part because we were fighting for our lives against the same communist terrorism that the Soviet Union was sponsoring worldwide. And so Little Rhodesia and South Africa were not allowed to take part in the Olympics for decades throughout the 60s and 70s and the 80s. We were being excluded from the Olympics and to let politics interfere with sports, I think is so wrong. I don't think you should ever be boycotting

a country because of the politics. The sportsmen should be allowed to participate because isn't this what helps to lessen tensions and bring about reconciliation between nations and helps alleviate wars? When people can compete and meet with and interact with people of other nations that might be their political enemies, it is a good thing for the country. That's why we have student exchange programs and sports teams going across the world is a lot better than sending armies and bombers across the world. So I think the politicization of it is is shameful, but the hypocrisy, the double standards is just so outrageous. How can the Olympic Committee exclude Russia now that they've escaped from communism, but they never boycott them when they were the most virulent, atheistic,

communist, aggressive nation, totalitarian state, smashing their neighbors and exporting terrorism and weapons of mass destruction all over the world. And we experienced it when I was growing up because we in Rhodesia were having a civilian airliner shot down by Soviet strela missiles, heat seeking missiles, and the survivors being cooked and eaten. I mean, for goodness sakes, what kind of atrocities? And this sort of thing was going on in the 70s and religion couldn't go to Olympics, but the Soviet Union could. So I must say, I despise the international Olympic committees hypocrisy. You know, every kind of sin is bad, but the hypocrisy really offends God. And you can just read Matthew 3 to see what the Lord Jesus thinks of hypocrites. His speech against the scribes and the Pharisees, hypocrites all.

And the committee is shocking in its hypocrisy. And the French government is disgusting in its hypocrisy too. And for them to pretend that, you know, we're neutral when it comes to religion and that no, we never intended to offend anyone. And they even lied saying this wasn't meant to be based on the Leonardo da Vinci depiction of the last supper. But people who participated in it said they knew that they were emulating, they were parodying Leonardo da Vinci's iconic depiction of the Lord's Supper. And it was even on the program.

So they lie. That's right. And then when they say, intend to offend anyone, that's not true either, because the person they chose to design it all was a well-known LGBTQ plus pro-pedophilia type activist who they paid millions to produce this. And then he stands up and says, I didn't mean to offend anyone. Well, of course he did. He's just sorry he got caught. Yeah. He's just mean to offend anyone. Well, of course he did. He's just sorry he got caught. Yeah. He's just sorry he got caught.

You know, the point that you were making too, and I didn't realize all those years that, uh, South Africa and, uh, Rhodesian, I think were, were, uh, excluded from the Olympics. I remember though, the, the rabid competition between the U S and Russia as to who got the most medals and also with East Germany you know that was also a big part and they wouldn't even total it up you know the the the countries behind the Iron Curtain versus the free countries and here's how we're competing with medals and that type of thing so

it's always been a big nationalistic thing like that it was always about the communists but you're that's a very interesting point they would allow the communists to compete for that but then when you were about the communists, but you're… That's a very interesting point. They would allow the communists to compete for that, but then when you were fighting the communists, they excluded you. Now, you made a point about why don't we celebrate the heritage of life and liberty that have been the fruit of Christianity? Dr. Klaas Yes, indeed, because in fact, the only religion in the world you're allowed to denigrate is Christianity. Now, I think that's because it's only Christianity that's true, because

they're not out there denigrating false religions, they're not out there denigrating, for example, well, let's say, for example, the Quran or Muhammad. Well, first of all, that gets some serious violence, backlash, if they tried that. I mean, can you imagine anyone trying to have ridiculing Mohammed or Islam in the opening of the Olympics? I mean, unthinkable. Paris would be burning and so on. But they go to Christianity… Let me interject here. My son says, when are they going to have a draw Mohammed opening at the ceremony to show how fair and even-handed they are? Yeah, they wouldn't do that, would they? Especially not in Paris with all the migrants that they've got there now.

Yeah. I mean, can you imagine having a depiction of Muhammad being a pig farmer or having a pig on his table or something like this? That's exactly it. Yeah. I mean, why would they depict Jesus Christ as an obese trans woman and his disciples as a bunch of perverts and cross dresses and bearded woman and you know, just the whole LGBTQ freak show, bizarre. And in a sense, that's their evangelists. You know, Jesus apostles are his evangelists. And the bread and the wines, or what's on the table, symbolizes body broken on a cross, his blood shed for us. And so they

replaced it with a pagan Greek god of the portrait and wine. And, you know, he's a naked character dressed in blue, a painting blue. Yeah, it looks some people said looks like the smurf. And what's on earth is this depiction? It's well, you know, why he's blue is first he's dead. I mean, that's a depiction as well. This is a dead god, this Darnesius, but he symbolizes wine. I mean, he's blue, it's because he's dead. I mean, that's a depiction as well. This is a dead God, this Dionysius, but he symbolizes wine. I mean, he's drunk himself to death basically. And this is where we should focus our visions of salvation, salvation in sin, salvation through sin, not salvation from sin. We don't celebrate salvation, we celebrate sin. And this is what France and the EU and the New World Order actually do represent. Macron is right in that. They represent occultism,

blasphemy, paganism, sabbatanism. They love their sin. They hate the Savior. And it's also a war on women. As you were pointing out earlier, women were not allowed to watch unless they were prostitutes or something. And under penalty of death, they would compete naked and…but the women were kicked kicked out and so here we have a situation where you know they had very violent fighting matches and stuff like that but now we have women who compete in boxing but now they're having men box the women and so many people talked about that aspect how misogynistic it really is.

At the very opening ceremony, they replace it, it was supposed to be a man and a woman jointly holding a torch, well, they replaced the woman with a tranny. And then they have some intersex guys who are beating up women and that sort of thing. But it is very misogynistic. And so the question is, you know, not only are they celebrating this culture that is pagan and debauched or anything, but it's also very anti-woman, and you know, that culture, that religion, and that's supposed to be, that's another aspect of hypocrisy. They always claim they're for women, and yet when you look at this, it is very, very anti-woman.

Is in fact, you wonder where all the feminists, they meant to speak up for women, but in fact, they've allowed trans men to be proclaimed woman of the year, getting all kinds of women's awards and then supporting a man, excuse me, a man beating a woman in the face. Yeah. I mean, that's just so disgusting. And this woman was terrified, you know, they were afraid she had a broken nose and so on. How is this sports? And we meant to have categories, you know, male, female and different categories in terms of weight when it comes to boxing, so on, so that it's fair. This is not fair.

This is not just this is not sports. This is abusive women and women are seeing the sports invaded. They're safe places even if changing rooms invaded, women are being excluded. And what are you saying when men are taking women's awards and even one of the award and this and that what they're saying is nobody can be a woman as well as a man can. I mean, that's just ridiculous. It's so disgusting. I think the… Tom Ahern, Ph.D. Well, you pointed out the heritage of Christianity, and you said, in your essay you were talking about how the athletes were professionals, and sometimes they'll be highly paid as our professional athletes are today, but many times part of the compensation would be to be given a slave. Well, it was Christianity that

abolished slavery. It's the only culture that has abolished slavery, and slavery still exists in Muslim countries and that sort of thing to this day. But we also, Christians abolished infanticide, which these same people are bringing back. And then on the other side, Christians creating hospitals, libraries, universities, and colleges. These are the types of things that, you know, it is antithetical to what they're doing, and yet they celebrate. We look at those things, and we say, well, those are all good things to save the babies and to recognize that women are equal to men before God. We have different roles, but they are equal in

the sight of God. That was a very radical change for the pagan world, wasn't it? Yes. You know, to study what the world was like before the time of Christ, the world before the time of Christ was a world without charity, without kindness to strangers. It was a world without compassion or even respect for women. Women were treated as lower than slaves. And in no Hollywood film there's justice to the life of women before Christianity because they will depict the woman walking around freely with open face in Rome and Athens and so on. Actually, no woman was allowed to walk around on her own in the ancient Roman and Athens. They had to go under male guardianship, even if it was a male slave. But a woman, even a free woman, a princess couldn't walk

around on her own. She didn't have that freedom. She always was under male control. They weren't allowed to even attend meals in their own was under male control. They weren't allowed to even attend meals in their own home without special permission. They were just meant to be bussing around the kitchen and serving, and they had to be in their quarters. And there was such a lot of abuse of women. Women couldn't walk outside without wearing a veil. And this you wouldn't notice from the Hollywood films because which actress wants to walk around with a face obscured in these movies. But you know, if they were taking the ancient Rome or ancient Greece streets, they wouldn't have had these women walk around with their head and hair and face uncovered. They were compelled to be covered by law. They could get the death penalty for

not wearing a veil. And you think that's only Islamic. That's the way the whole world was. Greek Romans stand before Christianity. Christianity deliberately worked to free women on every level. And just think of how the gospel, the message of the resurrection was first proclaimed by a woman. The first convert in Europe was a woman, Lydia. And you think how Mary Magdalene was the first at the tomb and the first to proclaim the resurrection and Christianity gave women worth and respect that had never existed before and only Christianity brought an end to slavery. To think every society practiced slavery and human sacrifice even ancient Church of Rome and Greece which is so well thought of, they were sacrificing not only strangers and slaves, they were even sacrificing their own children or wives on occasion. You think of how Agamemnon

sacrifices his own daughter at the beginning of the siege on Troy in order to bring victory and favourable waves to him. So these Greek kings and Roman kings, they were doing all kinds of hideous things, human sacrifices. Julius Caesar did human sacrifices on occasion and so on. And now the world has something of selective memory and now idealizes these pre-Christian pagan societies of Greek and Roman and the Olympics, for example, but they don't recognize how Christianity is brought about everything good in this world. We would not want to live in this world if it hadn't been for Jesus Christ and the influence he

and his followers and teachings have made on this world. If you just look at literacy, universities, Univeritas, the very name, the etymology of the word Univeritas, testifies to its Christian origins, most university professors today don't even believe in truth or one truth, or that can be known. So I think the pagans of today, they should open up diversities, aversities, polyversities, but a university by definition should be Christian. It's Christians who pioneered the universities. In many cases, ministers and missionaries, by the way. In fact, even the whole Slavic language and alphabet was set to writing and created by Christian missionaries to Russia.

So the whole Slavic alphabet, when the communists used to write out their dates and so on, they were having to use an alphabet designed by Christians. And even today when we speak about Paris Olympics 2024, 2024 what? Yes, year of our Lord. Even the dates, tests, sp us to the centrality of Christ. We haven't built a dating system on the birth of Julius Caesar or Muhammad or anyone else. It's all Karl Marx. No, our dating system is on Jesus Christ, the most important person who ever lived. He split the river of the ages ofunder. He is the hinge of history.

All of history is dated BC before Christ and Anadomine in the year of our Lord, AD. And they might even try to change it now to BCE and CE, but it's still centered around the life of Jesus Christ. He is the one who splits our dating system into going backwards in BC and forward in AD. So even the very name Paris Olympics 2024 testifies to Christ. Every atheist, pagan and blasphemer testifies to the centrality of Christ when we write the date. And even the fact that we have a seven day week is because of the acts of creation. God created the world in six days, he rest in the seventh. The very name restaurant, it first came from Paris, and it came from the scripture in Matthew 11, 28, come unto me all you weary and heavy laden, I will give you rest. That was, the whole scripture was put on the outside of the first establishment for eating in a pleasant environment, and over

the years they shortened it to restaurant, which of course is, it's on the French, but the very term restaurant, this came from Christianity. Yeah. And there's so many things that, that in our society, we take for granted. Like if you say goodbye, it comes from the old English, God be with you. That's why the spelling is so unique. It's an English prayer, God go with you. And in fact, if you go to Austria today, they greet you with grussgott, or greetings in God. In Switzerland it's abbreviated to grussi. So again and again you can see Christianity is throughout our Western societies, and they're forgetting it. In fact, they're not forgetting it. They deliberately try to obscure it, denigrate it,

and replace it with debauchery. There's a consistent effort in Europe, especially by the EU. Just think how the European Union has built their parliament in Strasbourg and I've been there. It's like the Tower of Babel. It's an incomplete building with even the scaffolding on the outside, it's based on Bruegel's depiction of the town of Babel, who's a Belgian artist. And you go to Brussels and I've been there too, and they've got a statue outside the EU building of a woman riding a beast. For goodness sakes, a woman riding a beast, why would you do that? And these are all biblical antichrist.

Yes. Even Richard Dawkins recently was saying, you know, he still doesn't like Christianity, but he really likes the fruit of Christianity. You know, let's cut down on the tree, but let's try to keep the fruit somehow. And Elon Musk, in many ways, said similar things, not as direct and as, you know, spreading it out like Dawkins said, oh yeah, I love the culture of the Christians and I love the cathedrals and I love the Christmas music and stuff like that. But that is the type of thing.

People, here's the key, and this is what I liked about your essay. If you go back and you look at the original pagan Olympics, it tells you so much about their society. And if we look at that and what the elites are pushing towards, pushing us towards, we can see what they admire. And we can see that what they want to do is take us back to that kind of a situation where there's a few people running everything and the rest of us are poor and slaves and living in mud huts. That really is what they're doing. And of course, exercising that against a lot of the athletes in terms of removing their air conditioning, removing meat for the most part, having them sleeping on cardboard beds and all the rest of this stuff. They want austerity. They want slavery, and that's what we're going to get

with this kind of pagan society. So, I think it is very interesting to go back and look at what these people admire, and what they worship, and the kind of society that they want to take us into. And I think that is all there, to some degree, in the Olympics. What do you think? Dr. Pettit It is. I think, you know, what we are seeing is the powers that should not be are putting on display what they want as a globalist religion. Now, bear in mind, Revelation 13 warns us of a one world government with a one world economic system and a one world interfaith religion. And so there you have it in Revelation 13 warning the beast is wanting to impose a one world religion. And what's standing in the way? Well, those obnoxious individuals who say,

my conscience is kept, the word of God, Jesus is the way, the truth and life. No one comes to father but them. They don't want that. They hate Christianity because Christianity is true. And Christianity, of course, teaches that leaders should be servants, the very concept of civil servants. I mean, the very fact that Britain has a prime minister. A minister means a deacon, a servant. So the prime minister is the first servant. And you've got cabinet ministers who used to sign the letters, your humble servant. This comes from Jesus teaching that the lords are the Gentiles, they lord it over them, and they call themselves benefactors. But it is not to be like that with you. The greatest amongst you must be like the least and like the youngest. You

should be the servant of all. And so Jesus taught servant leadership and he modeled servant leadership. I mean, the Lord got on his knees, took a towel and cleaned the feet of his servants with his disciples, when people walking with sandals through streets that were dusty and dirty and filthy and you know, donkeys and horses walking around and you can imagine it would have been a dirty job to clean people's feet when they came into the house. You'd normally leave your sandals at the door, but now you're sitting on couches for eating. So you know, one person sits close to that person's feet and they want to have clean feet and especially for the meal time, the Lord does the

humblest task. And this is the leadership of a Christian. A Christian leader leads from the front, he leads by example, and he serves. And that is even a Christian concept that we don't have big chiefs, emperors who cast the instructions, and like the Pope, who expects people to kiss his toes and things like that. No, Christian leadership is servant leadership, where we care for the people. You do it as unto the least of these, you've done unto me. And so, why would Christianity not be respected? And why would people not be grateful to it? But no, at the Olympics, they're choosing every single Olympics to celebrate the pagan religions which all abused women were involved in animal cruelty, human sacrifices, occultism

and paganism. Why would they want to replace Christianity with paganism? And you know, who today wants to say, I think slavery is a good thing. I think abusive women is a good thing. Well, they might think it, but they're not going to easily say it. But they want to celebrate and lift up that which is pro-slavery and pro-debochery and paganism and abusive woman. And that shows you, as you said earlier, that's the hidden goal. They must like that. You wouldn't be lifting up and worshiping it if you don't think it's good. And a model and what you want for the future.

up and wish me if you don't think it's good and a model and what you want for the future. You are not going to spend in some cases, a hundred million pounds or a hundred million euros on opening ceremonies if it wasn't presenting the message you want. I wouldn't spend a dime on a printing job or any project that didn't glorify Christ and present the solo scripture, Protestant beliefs that are at the heart of my faith. And I can bet that these pagans are not going to be putting 100 million euros into something that they don't wholeheartedly agree with. And just like I've proofread every single line and letter over and over before I give the authorization for the printer to go ahead with the print job I want done, there's no way that these powers that be didn't approve everything of this Olympic before.

Somebody thought of this golden calf. Somebody thought of this pale rider, somebody thought of a decapitated Mary Antoinette walking around with her head under her arm and things like this. Somebody thought of let's put some trans women in the place of Jesus, and let's put a bunch of freaks and LGBTQ bearded woman and things like this with a child, my dear. I mean, what's a drag queen without a child in this lawsuit? Yeah, that's right.

And somebody thought of this and everybody signed off on it. The president of France, the mayor of Paris, probably the whole city council, the whole IOC, they must have all approved this ahead of time. It wouldn't have gone ahead without the approval all the way up to national and international. So this, what they're telling us is this is what we believe, this is what we stand for, this is what we want, which includes nothing but contempt for Christianity,

not even an acknowledgement of Christianity as depicted in Notre Dame. And the Notre Dame Cathedral, I've been at the it's a magnificent cathedral, stood for a thousand years. It's burned down. Interesting, while Notre Dame was burning, it was, while it was still burning,

President Macron said, Austin has been ruled out, it's not Austin. I was in a fire brigade. You cannot determine the cause of a fire before the fire is out. It takes a lot of forensics afterwards. In the fire brigade, we were often being rushed to give a verdict. We would not give a verdict until we'd examined the evidence.

And yet the Paris Fire Department and Police Department were not allowed to investigate. They were just told, okay, the prison said, we've ruled out Arsene. That was a year where there were 1,200 attacks on churches in France in one year, 1,200. And those churches desecrated, bombed, burned, damaged in different ways, all by Muslim jihadists. But Notre Dame, the most iconic picture of Paris, the greatest architectural masterpiece in France, that was definitely not awesome, I said to the president. So they just could not afford to allow people to see this is the fruit of our multiculturalism, bringing people hate Christianity and so on. And they had spates of arson attacks at here. And that just was not today. And you can't even look there for arson. It's not arson. Ruled out. The firemen were still fighting

the fire. The fires were still blazing, and President Macron already put it down, this is not awesome, we've ruled it out. And how could they do that on a political basis, but not on a forensic basis, that's for sure. Pete Well, and of course, the true arsonist was Macron himself. He wants to burn down the country, and he knows he can do it with the migrants and the policies that they have. But it truly is amazing. And, you know, we've had, again, several people recently from Dawkins to Elon Musk talking about the fruit of Christianity, but of course they reject the root of Christianity. You can't have Christianity without Christ. You can't have Christianity without the Bible. They

don't want any of that morality. They don't want any of that morality. They don't want Christ at the center of this. And we can see if we look back where this is all taking us in the future if we go down that dark path. It's great talking to you and very insightful. I really enjoyed listening to you. And let me give you your website again. And is it Mission Plural or Mission Singular? Frontline Mission plural or Mission singular? FrontlineMission.org. Mission singular. FrontlineMissionSA.org.

Okay. FrontlineMissionSA.org is where people can go to find your books that you have there, as well as to keep up with the busy life and ministry that you've got going there in South Africa. And it truly is amazing all the different places that you have gone and hostile areas that you have gone in terms of Marxists as well as Muslims and the different areas and amazing stories that you've got about how God has taken His Word in different places. And so I really do appreciate your faithfulness and fearlessness and putting that out there and taking it into these dark areas. We just have to make sure that we keep the lights on here at home as well, right? We are starting to go out. I'm getting deeply concerned for the West. I think back to our general William Booth

wrote the book in Darkest England back in the 1800s, but I think that's more true now. So much in the West, the capitals of the West, France and Britain are turning away from Christ and turning deliberately to paganism, atheism, Islam, anything but Christianity. And I'm deeply concerned for the United States and your whole future is at stake. And I trust that people are praying for a biblical return. We need a back to the Bible reformation. We need a heaven sent, Holy Spirit empowered revival. That's right. And it's got to come from the bottom up. It's going to start with each and

every one of us. And so that starts with us and our family, you know, and then moves up to the government. That truly is... There's no salvation in politics. That's right. And anyone who's waiting for the government to save us is definitely deluded. We've got to start from the ground up, street evangelism, personal prayer, family by family devotions, one individual at a time. We've got to win our countries back to Christ. Europe became Christian by the hard work of missionaries like Boniface and evangelists like George

Whitfield and John Wesley. We've got to have these hardcore evangelists, the Deal Moody's, the Child's Burgers. We need dedicated servants of God and we need the foot soldiers on the ground too, winning neighbors, friends and family to Christ. We've got to work very vigorously because our whole civilization is in danger of falling to chastity and paganism. We don't want a dark age of paganism. We want to go further into the future in the light of Christ. And I think you've just seen in Paris some of the darkness, including a full-on blackout across the whole city of Paris the day after the mocking of Christ at the insane opening ceremonies. Pete Yeah, yeah, that was interesting, wasn't it?

Pete Insane. Pete Absolutely. So, yeah, it is going to be done one by one. They want to destroy the family. Men need to take the leadership in this, but the hand that rocks the cradle rules the world, as they used to always say. That's why they don't want families. They don't want motherhood. Motherhood is devalued like everything else. But that's the important thing. So we take it back from the bottom up, we take it back with our relationship with Christ, our family's relationship with Christ. FrontlineMissionSA.org. Thank you so much, Peter Hammond. I appreciate it. Peter Hammond Thank you. And if I can say a last word here,

and that is the best way for you to revolt against this revolting, disgusting, new world disorder is to be straight, get converted, love Christ, study your Bible, get married, have lots of children, homeschool them. I mean, this is the way that we will beat the new world order. When they want you to abandon Christ, we embrace Christ. They want you to keep quiet, we will preach the gospel. They don't want you to pray, we will pray. So the thing is, whatever the state and the globalist new world order in Hollywood is telling you to do, do the opposite and that's a pretty good rule of thumb. That's the way to do it.

Thank you so much, Peter. Appreciate it. Have a good day. Thank you, David. God bless. Thank you. God bless you. And that concludes our program.

Thank you very much for joining us. Have a good day. Let me tell you, the David Knight Show, you can listen to with your ears. You can even watch it by using your eyes. In fact, if you can hear me, that means you're listening to the David Knight Show right now. Yeah, good job.

And you wanna know something else? Now yeah good job And you want to know something else you can find all the links to Everywhere to watch or listen to the show at the David night show calm That's a website. I was hit by a jet ski and I was told by a doctor that I may have only five hours to live if my liver had been totally destroyed. And I was faced with all of a sudden this idea that in five hours I might be standing before the judgment seat of Christ. I was 30 years old.

I knew the Bible very well. I was happily married. I had two kids. I was very much the epitome of a good American Christian. And I realized at that moment when it was real and I was laying on a gurney, I'm going to get before Christ and this is going to be inadequate. I will not go in with my head held high. What have I done to help all the hurting people out there?

Not much. And I realized at that moment, I never wanted to be in that situation again. Theology in books is one thing. Theology, when you're laying on a gurney, realizing I might be seeing Christ in the next couple of hours is another. When I was on the Los Angeles Police Department and I saw brutal awful crime and a really

horrific crime area and then as I got into international business I got to see that depravity is in $5,000 suits just like it's in durags and running around with AK-47s. We see over here on the nice Americanized Christianity that we have that some people do seem totally transformed and some not. Lots of people claim to be Christians, lots of people believe in Christ, but they don't seem that much different than some of the stuff I saw in the streets of Los Angeles. What's the difference? Jesus has given us the formula for that difference in the Sermon on the Mount. Jesus has this list of intense demands that he's put upon us. Those are the

things that are the requirements for living out this life with great joy and power in Him. Well, Christ has said, you can be my salt, you can be my light, you can be the change maker in this world if you follow me, deny yourself, pick up your cross daily. And by the way, when you're that person, I will shower you with great rewards in eternity when you get there and a content and joyful life here in this world where you're seeing change

and transformation around you as people see you, this great light of the Holy Spirit. Have you ever seen how some Christians are so filled with great joy because they have lived up to the Sermon on the Mount, to Christ demands, not for salvation, but for all the promises after salvation? And so we want to walk through that in a daring faith in a cowardly world, realizing that the world is counting on us to carry out the good works that Jesus laid

down at the beginning of time for you and I to accomplish. And if we do that, we will reap great rewards from our Master when we get to heaven and say, Lord Jesus, I live for you. I gave all for you and have him say, well done, my good and faithful servant. Okay. And that's our guest, Ken Harrison. And you saw the book there. This is newest book, A Daring Faith in a Cowardly World. And so joining us now is Ken Harrison. He is volunteer chairman and CEO of Promise Keepers. And he's done a great deal of things in his life, but thank you for joining us, sir. Oh,, thanks David. I appreciate it. It's really important for us to I think that Promise Keepers has a very important message especially for these times that we live in and

it is very important for men to understand what their role is and you put that out there in a very positive way. Tell us a little bit about the organization Promise Keepers. Well, Promise Keepers was the biggest men's movement in the history of the church back in the 90s under Coach Bill McCartney. So they were getting together men filling the Menafel Stadium, 60, 70,000 men at a time. I remember that. Yeah. Yeah. And they actually had a gathering in Washington, DC in 97 called Stand in the Gap. Most people think it was called the Million Man March. It was called Stand in the Gap and they had 1.4 million men together to worship Christ for the day. It's the biggest

gathering in the history of Washington, D.C. So, it was a pretty impactful organization. It sort of faded out of relevance for a while, but we've been coming back for the last few years. Pete That's good. But yet, you know, as we see so many times in the cancel culture, But yet, as we see so many times in the cancel culture, what is surprising is to see that Christian venues are now canceling Promise Keepers because they don't like anything that is masculine, anything that talks to men about keeping their promises that they make. Tell us a little bit about that and what's been happening with that. It is truly amazing. I saw that and I just was really astounded because as you point out, Promise Keepers was so big

20, 30 years ago. And now we've got liberal churches, churches have gone so far to the left that they want to ban Promise Keepers for what they call their, you know, what is their gender ideology. Yeah. And it's, I would have been as shocked as you have. We went to Dallas Cowboy Stadium two years ago. We had 30,000 men there. It was a huge event. Then we thought, well, let's do a bigger tour. We get letters from all over the world saying, could you come here? We thought, well,

instead of doing one huge event in one location, which takes so much, just a lot of stuff, let's just go to churches. Wouldn't that be great? We'll go all over. We've been canceled and canceled. And a lot of times, David, it's not about ideology. A lot of times just playing about cowardice. So we had one church come to us.

We met with the elders and they said, listen, we agree with you on everything. We're so sorry. We just don't want any protesters. We don't need anybody to think badly of us. We don't want to be off the pledge from our community. Right. And I mean, if you've read the gospels, if you read the words of our Lord, you think, how in the world could you, as an elder of a church, literally say, I don't want to be unpopular? They need it worse than anybody at that church. That's absolutely right. And that's what's happened. That's what we see everywhere. That's why,

you know, the church is just disappearing is because nobody will stand for the truth. And you look at that and you say, well, then maybe you don't really believe it. So why am I coming to your church? You know, A.R. Bernard is on our board. People think he's, I don't know if you know who A.R. Bernard is, he has a huge church in New York City. And a lot of people say, oh, he's woke. He's not woke. He's an incredibly brilliant man. Huge church in New York city with 40,000 people. And he said something to me that I thought was so profound. He said, Ken, you know what the difference between a strong

preference and a conviction is? No, I mean, think about that. Everybody homeless. So what is the difference between a strong, a strong preference and a conviction? A conviction is not negotiable. Yes. That struck me as so profound because when we see St.

Jerome being barbecued face down in Rome and after 15 minutes of him singing songs and laughing, he finally yells out, I'm done on this side. You could turn me over now. That's a guy with convictions. Yeah. Right. Now we have churches saying, well, we don't want

protesters on my make us uncomfortable. And the ironic thing about it is our tour is called daring faith. Because what we're saying to men is, you start this with at the beginning, what is our identity? Who are we? And as a church, we've gotten this wrong. And the greatest lie is the one that's closest to the truth that brings you to the wrong conclusion. And the lie that's been seeded throughout the evangelical church is that we're all sinners saved by grace. Well, that's true, but it's only half true. Because when you think you're a sinner saved by grace and you stop there, that becomes your identity. I guess I'm a sinner. Instead of sinners saved by grace made into new creations in Christ Jesus for good works which were prepared beforehand and we should walk in the Ephesians 2 10.

We've been made new creatures that the Spirit of God has been deposited in each person who's put their faith in Christ. Now we're sons and daughters of the Most High God and we need to act like it. So the identity is a problem because when men see, well, I'm just a sinner, then suddenly we see what we have today, which is, well, I struggle with porn, but I'm trying to do better. No, you're a new creature. You shouldn't be struggling with porn. What did, what did John say to when everyone showed up on the launch of Jesus's ministry, Jesus comes to get baptized. John looks up and looks at everybody and says, repent, you brutal vipers who told you to repent

for the coming of the Lord, repent and sow deeds consistent with your repentance. Yes. That's a, that's the thing when you're in the church a lot today. And that was the beginning of Jesus's ministry. That's right. Yeah, it's like, you know,

if we're going to be witnesses to people, we got to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth, right? I had George Barna and he was talking about how people like, oh yeah, you know, it's like a smorgasbord, we'll bring a little bit of this thing over there and a little bit of that thing over there. You know, so we had some things that aren't true to it, you know, but then the other part of it is that you're talking about is that we don't have the whole truth. You know, Jesus would constantly, you know, heal somebody, say, now go your way

and send no more. You know, you've been changed. And, heal somebody, say, now go your way and sin no more. You know, you've been changed. And if we haven't been changed, and if we don't have that sense of transformation that changes, then we need to go back and we need to say, well, have I really been changed? Have I been saved? You know, is that something there? Because if you have, it's going to work itself out. And so, you know, we need to constantly, you constantly, we need to look at that and say, does my life really reflect

what I say that it does? Am I really living that? And of course, today we're seeing this more and more. That's why talking about Promise Keepers, you were kicked out of a private Christian university in Nashville, out of a church in Cordova, Tennessee, out of a big church in Houston, and on and on. And I just looked at this, I was astounded. It's like, what is wrong with telling people to keep their promises, you know, and be a good husband and a good father and that type of thing that you're encouraging men to take that role? You know,

what have we gotten to in a society where that is something that people hate in churches or Christian universities, or as you pointed out, they're afraid of the criticism that's going to come their way? Yeah, I mean, the Bible says that in the last days, the love of many will grow cold because of a lack of teaching doctrine. And you know, when people listen to this, I think they think, well, am I getting the whole story? I mean, maybe this Ken Harrison guy is a real jerk or maybe promise.

I mean, we're taught to think that way. Yeah. Everybody. I'm not a jerk. And we really, we really have gone with the grace of the Lord. We just teach God's word. One of the criticisms we get from people, because, you know, when you have people who want to spread hatred, they don't let them not bogged down by truth you know they say whatever and one of them is well you know we want to subjugate women and I'm quoted all over the place as saying my role is not to tell women how to behave I don't I stay out of that I'm not a pastor I run promise keepers just to hear to tell men how to be so I'm here to tell men how to be humble gracious

leaders in their home biblically understood so they can raise their kids. We don't ever mention anything about women or anything like that. So it's all about humility. Who wouldn't want a husband who's humble and gracious and knows the Bible and raises his kids, right? So really it's unbelievable when you look at the fact that churches are walking away from this. And it's terrifying. And I at the fact that churches are walking away from this and it's terrifying and I will say But I think that there is a welcome change in the church coming in that I think COVID changed a lot of things when people

Realized that they could sit in the robe and watch Francis Chan on the YouTube instead of The megachurch movement has taken over starting in the eighties where, you know, a really good speaker with good music ended up with this massive campus and people all went there and it was nameless and faceless and they did their church thing and they went home. Well, culture no longer values going to church. And now I don't need to go to church and be nameless and faceless because I can watch it on YouTube.

So I think what's church about? Church is about lifting brothers and sisters up in Christ and sharpening each other. So church is about relationship and teaching biblical doctrine. So for those churches that are teaching biblical doctrine and there's relationships, and I'm telling you, it starts with the men because women actually make relationships, but men don't. Those churches are going to be the ones who flourish. I think we're going to go back more to a local church

where people really know each other, they raise each other's kids instead of this nameless, faceless mega church. And I tell you, that's gonna be a welcome time. I agree, I agree. I've seen this in terms of silver linings and what happened in 2020 from the standpoint of, I've talked for the longest time

to people about schools and it's like, you know, don't put your, you know, be careful about what the institution is. Oh, it's not, it's not my school or it's not our school here. And even if it is our school, it's not my classroom. And then they were able to see what was actually being taught in the classroom. And so that was a real, you know, wake up moment for people, just like a lot of the, the zoom church stuff was a wake up and, and churches that said a real, you know, wake up moment for people, just like a lot of the Zoom church stuff was a wake up and churches that said, well, you know what? They've said that there's a sickness going around. So maybe we just, it's not important enough for us to get together, you know? So you see some things like this and it's been really kind of a, a, a, an opportunity for people to reevaluate the sincerity of the institutions and to reevaluate

what is actually happening in their lives. And so I do agree with you. I think it's not going to be everybody, but it's going to be certainly a lot of people have awakened to what was going on in their schools, what was going on in their churches, as they saw this stuff being locked down. And so that's the unintended positive consequences, I think, that God is using. Give us an idea. You mentioned a little bit of this, but, you know, tell us a bit about what a Promise Keepers Rally is about. So, this is men talking to men like men. And so,

you know, when you look at a marriage, you need to have a mother and a father for an optimal raising of a kid. It's not always possible. but when little Johnny skins his knee, he needs mom there to say, Johnny, it's okay. Let me put a bandaid on me. Kiss it. Make it better. Well, every once in a while, Johnny needs dad to go. You're not that hurt.

Get up and get going. Oh, right. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. In our society, we were lacking dads. And so what we have is so many victims running around. Well, my dad was mean.

And so now I'm screwed up and I, my coach didn't play me and, uh, you know, excuses. And so what we're here to say is, look, that may be true. You may have had a bad father or no father or maybe a lot of things. Now, what are you going to do about it? It's time to stand up and be counted as a man of God because your wife, your kids are counting on you to be a man exercise self control. So that's what this is really about. So these are many events.

They're Friday night only they go from depending on the city, like six to nine. The first one will be in New York city on December 1st. And it's going to be actually globally simulcast for free to the whole world. So anybody who's not near New York city can just go sign up at promisekeepers.org and get the simulcast. We're trying to do that through churches because again, we want to drive relationship amongst men. We don't want sitting at home in the road. We want them out with other men. But we're going to take on real issues.

We're going to have Becca cook there who was a Hollywood major Hollywood presence homosexual who got sick. They completely changed his life went to Talbot seminary. So Beckett, tell us, you know, we're going to have an interview. Tell us how do you witness to homosexuals? How should we approach them? How did you get saved? What if our kid comes to us and says that they're struggling with this issue? Like real issues. We're going to deal with depression. You know, 80% of suicides in America are for middle-aged men. So we're going to deal with mental health, but it's all wrapped around Christ, because that's all that really matters.

How can we live our lives for Jesus Christ, abandon him? So it's gonna be very interesting. This is not celebrity driven. This is not come see the big speaker or the big singer, none of that. This is three hours of sober worship, sharpening each other and real information that you just can't get anywhere else,

because we're not gonna screw around. We're going to tell you, you're just so fine and everything is just so great. We're going to deal with the real issues as Christ did. Repent the Kingdom of God is at hand. Right? That's right. Well, that's good. So promisekeepers.org, the first event is going to be December the first in case your church is not telling you about it, but the people can find the live stream there. And then what is, you've got events that are scheduled throughout the next year, I guess as well, right? People will find them.

We should have a lot of them. I can't announce any of them yet because we have a whole bunch that are almost solidified. And to be honest with you, I've learned that I have to make sure that everything is solid before I announce so unless we get canceled. Yeah, I know.

Well, it's what we're seeing with libraries, you know, libraries have been taken over the drag queen storytime hours. And so you have, uh, yeah. I mean, uh, as, uh, you had, um, uh, I can't think of his name, the, the actor who started, uh, uh, yeah. Yeah. Kurt Cameron, uh, as he started going around doing that, they started canceling them left and right.

And, and then if they couldn't cancel it,'t cancel it, they created disturbances there and everything. I mean, it truly is amazing. The other people have beliefs that they hold very dear, and they will fight against those. I mean, we're even seeing now for the third time, this woman who quietly goes to abortion clinic and prays silently for the third time she's been arrested. It's just amazing to see that level of persecution goes to the abortion clinic and prays silently for the third time she's been arrested.

It's just amazing to see that level of persecution all over the place. But as you point out, it is everywhere we turn, men are being denigrated, being mocked as Homer Simpsons with nothing at all to contribute, even to the extent they're replacing the caveman with a cavewoman. It's kind of ridiculous. But tell us a little bit about your books. Your first book was Rise of the Servant King, where the Bible says about being a man. Tell us a little bit about that, and we'll get into the newer book after that. But tell us first about the Rise of the Servant Kings.

Yeah, that one is a really no-nonsense approach on being a godly man. It's full of LA cop stories because I was an LA policeman. As you said, I've done a lot of things. And so there's some stories in there that the publisher was like, Whoa, we don't see these in Christian books. And a lot of real positive feedback. In fact, I've gotten hundreds of letters from women who have read it and been blessed because it's really discipleship book, dressed up and then being a man because you got to learn how to be a disciple of Jesus Christ to learn how to be a real man. So that's that one.

And then the next one that came out recently is, um, during faith in a cowardly world, which I love that title. And I didn't come up with it. The publisher did, um, uh, Thomas Nelson, but it basically says that, well, again, we talk about identity. People think that you said the prayer, you're saved and now you just just have yours and it's time. There's nothing left to do. And instead, actually, when you read what Christ said over and over, in fact, his final words in Revelation 22, he says, behold, I'm coming quickly in my reward is with me to give to each person according

to what he has done. Yes. Christian. So the idea here is there will be a judgment seat of Christ. Second Corinthians five, 10, that will all stand before. Jesus Christ doesn't care what we did before we were saved. We were dead in our sins. We were saved by grace through faith alone. However, after we were saved, our lives do matter and we will be judged. And Jesus says, behold, to the person who perseveres doing good works, I will pull him up onto my throne and sit it with me at my Father's right hand. at the end of Matthew 24, he says that the servant I come to find

serving me will be put in charge of many things. And so the idea here is there's a reason to have daring faith, because it will matter for an entire eternity will be rewarded those who really walk with Christ and those who didn't. And just to put a cherry on that, you know, because I promise keepers, I get to talk to all these famous pastors and be friends with everything. And the famous theologian who called me out and said, Hey, man, I got to tell you, I read your book. I heard about it being about good works for Christians. And he goes, I sat down with a pen to shred it. And I was going to go on my radio show and tear you to pieces. And he goes, when I got done with your book,

I was completely convinced. And now I can't unsee it. Every time I open my Bible, it's good works, rewards, good works, rewards. Because how did I miss this all these years? Yeah. Oh, that's what that's what that book is about. And that's this challenge of this tourist, men, your lives matter greatly. And because we think our lives don't matter is why we're dropping the ball because I David and I know you talk about this but think about it what they're doing to our children here in Colorado When you're six years old you go to school they want to know what gender you are and I just had someone telling me their daughter went to school for her first day of First grade and you know, are you boy or girl? I'm a girl. Are you sure you're a girl?

Do you want to be a boy? I'm really trying to talk her into being something other than she is. Why are we not so outraged about what they're doing to our kids instead to circle back? I see churches that are caught up in bureaucracy and money and, and not having protesters and man, oh man, they're tearing at the core of who we are as a people. We as the people of Christ ought to just have our hearts being ripped out and in love doing everything we can. Because as you said, the other side actually believes this nonsense because they're deceived by the evil one. Our inmates are not flesh and blood,

but they're the powers and the authorities and the powers of darkness. We need to be waking people up to the truth because people know the truth when they hear it. And when they really hear truth, they're going to have one reaction or another, either repent or they're going to hate you. That's what happens because they're going to be utterly in their deception. Second of Thessalonians chapter two and Romans chapter one, some people are just completely abandoned to their evil and they're going to hate you. You're promised, Jesus promises us that they're going to hate us, but and some people we can rescue and what a glorious day that is. That's why we're here on this world. I just want to wake up, stop being so dang comfortable,

stop looking for the approval of the world and start looking for the approval of the one who matters. Jesus Christ. That's if you have an audience of one, it's amazing how easy life gets because you don't care what anybody else thinks. Right? You're more a lot easier, more joyful. That's right. Such great advice. Yeah, you know, we look at things and it's so easy to fall off one side or the other and get things unbalanced.

And so our response to a lot of people who think that they can earn their way into heaven is to say, no, you can't do that. There isn't any way that you can undo what has happened. Only Christ can do that. There isn't any way that you can undo what has happened. Only Christ can undo that. But then as you point out, if we don't look at the fact that He's saved us two good works and to do good things, that's the other... We can get on one side of the extreme or the other. We can be all about works or we can all be about grace only.

But it's the combination of those two things that are so important to try to get those and the proper understanding and to understand now that we're at this point, I think everybody knows the parable of the talents, and that's now because of the way that was translated as a unit of silver, it was an amount of money that was given to these people in Jesus' parable. Now people have said, well, you know, you have certain talents, things that God has given you. What are you going to do with that? And when we look at that parable, the people who don't do anything with what they were given, they get strong condemnation from Jesus, right? And so that's

the key thing. That's where we are right now. You know, look at all of the things that God has given us. He has given us not only forgiveness, but He's given us thing. That's where we are right now. You know, look at all of the things that God has given us. He has given us not only forgiveness, but He's given us abilities. What are we going to do with that, where we are? That's the key thing that Christians need to be asking themselves right now. And we have just stopped short of that in so many churches that got the part of the gospel right, but they also just stop at that point and don't go any further. You know, that parable, I go into it in detail, but you'll notice the first two servants are given certain amount of money and they go invest it and they take risks. But last servant doesn't do

anything with it. And why not? He doesn't want to take any risk. And what does Jesus say? Throw him into the outer darkness. Okay, so number one, there's this contempt for him because he was a coward. And number two, what's the outer darkness? Because these guys are all Christians, they're in habit. So did he lose his salvation? No. Actually, it's pretty clear as you look at over and over again, what he's thrown out of is the wedding feast of the lamb, that the wedding feast will be the great culmination of all of history and all the saints are going to be there. And this is why he has weeping and gnashing of teeth. People think that's hell or pain. It isn't. In the Near East, weeping means sorrow and gnashing of teeth means anger. He's angry at his wasted life and he's looking at the wedding feast of the Lamb and he's not allowed in because he

wasted what God gave him. And I want to wake people up and say, don't be that person. Be the first two servants who went and served the Lord with what they had. And that takes courage. And the other thing I want to wake people up to is we have swallowed another lie of intellectualism, where we think if you, these guys who sit in their library surrounded by books and criticize other pastors. Somehow this is the varsity level of Christ. Just look at the Bible. Everything is about courage. Everybody in the Bible, everything is confrontation. It's screwed up people who are giving all for Christ. They stood up for something. Even chapter 11 is a great hall of faith. These are such screwed up people, but they just kept going. We're all going to screw up. But are we going to be courageous? Are we going to do

everything it takes to raise godly kids and say, little Sam or little Jane, what are you learning at school? Let's look and see how that what does scripture say about that? And getting a little more about our school board, what's going on? Just the gal at Starbucks with the tattoos and the nose ring with it with a dour look on her face and saying, Hey, are you okay? Can I pray for you? Is there one thing I can pray for you today? I'm telling you, if you start doing that, I

do it all the time. It's amazing how much of my day gets quote wasted. Because I'll spend two hours with someone crying on my shoulder with mascara all over my shirt about her life and try to walk her through Christ, try to find her a good church. Everywhere we go, it's a promise keepers thing that we always say, if there's one thing I could pray for you, what would it be? It's amazing what that unlocks with people, but you better be ready. And it's harder to get that with men.

A woman will tell you what may tell you that, but it's going to be much harder to get that from a man, especially if you don't have a relationship already. Even with a relationship, it's harder to get men to talk. And that's why something like Promise Keepers is really important, because we're just not wired that way to, you know, to open up and to talk to other people. Yeah, we see that. Well, the course in here for Promise Keepers is we've got to teach men that being a man comes from your heart and your character, not from

your performance. Say that again, it comes from your heart and your character, not your performance. We say, what is a man like? Oh, a man is somebody who goes hunting and who can grow a great beard like David Knight or is tall and has a deep voice or is a cop or a Navy SEAL or no man is someone with it comes

from inside. It's your integrity. It's who you are. It says, I will defend my family no matter what I will provide for my family no matter what. If I get laid off from my job and times are tough, if I got to work in McDonald's, I'll work in McDonald's, whatever it takes to stand by my kids and my wife, to guard my thoughts and my mind so that all of my sexual energy goes towards my wife and nobody else. These are things that we talk about come from the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ. You cannot do this through self-effort. You must do it. You're dying to self-daily. As you die to self-daily, Matthew 5 through 7 is the whole core of being a disciple. Jesus there is not

giving the recipe for salvation. He's giving the recipe for becoming a disciple. As we die to self daily, we can really become men. It comes from the inside and suddenly we find out that I don't care if you're four foot ten and 80 pounds, you have a heart of a lion and a heart of integrity, then honesty and courage because you become a man of God. But that's another thing we have to wipe out is this idea that masculinity is performance driven. It's not. It's heart and integrity driven.

Yes, I agree. I couldn't agree with that more. Yeah, I've said many times that if you're looking to Christ, that is a leverage point, a fulcrum that's outside of this world, and that gives you a tremendous amount of leverage to change this world. Because it's coming from that. Your focus is not even on changing the world. That's going to be an outcome that comes from your focus on Christ, having an eternal focus with that.

But it is very important, as you point out, it's so difficult for men to see this. Women just naturally fall into this. They fall more into their relationships. They like school better than we like school. They like church better than we like church. It's just a natural thing for them. Men need to have a little bit more of an encouragement, a counseling, and to understand the importance of helping one another. you know, helping one

another. That's the key thing. And I think it's very important for Promise Keepers. I'm glad that you're reviving this, that it is now coming back. It really isn't needed at this point in time. Here's why. Men have always been relationships by doing things together. Because if you look at the history of the world,

you had to do things together to survive. Somebody was a hunter and somebody is a farmer and a rancher and a blacksmith and all that stuff. You came together communities and you had to share skills, and then we learned who we could trust and who we couldn't. We saw men in stressful situations. If you were not a good guy, you were ostracized and if you're a good guy, you're elevated in the town. Women make relationships by communicating. And so now what

we see is because of all our technological advancements, the world today is all about communicating. It's all about Facebook and social media. None of that is masked. And in fact, it's de-masculating. And of course, there are churches that fall into that too. So you come to church and you have a chat and maybe you get together and have tea. If you're really godly, you get together and have a Bible study at 630 in the morning on a Friday. But there's nothing in that as having to do with doing things together as men. And that's where pastors have to be intentional.

Get men together because I can have lunch with you, David, for 20 years, once a week, but we won't really be friends. I'll tell you what, we go hunting for three days in the backwoods and you shoot an elk that's 300 yards away across another mountain range. We gotta clean that thing and carry it out. Now we're friends, because now I've seen that you're really like under stress

and you've seen that I'm like under stress. You've seen how much we hold each other's work. That's what creates relationships amongst men. And so we have to be intentional about that now because we don't need each other anymore. I mean, I can, I can order Uber eats and I can get stuff delivered from the grocery store and men are being more and more isolated. So it's fine. There's nothing wrong with women communicating naturally and men make relationships by doing, but then again, we have to be intentional. So what promise keepers, what we're trying

to do is tell men, don't get together for Bible study, get together with guys who are golfers and golf or hunters and hunter or fishermen or skiers, whatever it is that you do. And then Bible study will come from that. But if you try to get together and sit around, you'll just try to do a religious thing and it won't last. But get together and do something that matters and have scripture and prayer out of that.

And boy, you will become, you'll have true friends. That's a great idea. Yeah, absolutely. I think that's right. I see on your board, one name that sticks out to me is Randy Alcorn. And of course, I know Randy from his works, he's done a lot of fiction novels.

He did, that are very well written. He was a pastor who was at an abortion clinic and they got a judgment against him. And for over 20 years, he didn't take a penny. He took like the minimum, which is like $8,000 a year. So he didn't give any of the money to Planned Parenthood and just donated all the money from these novels, which were very successful.

But he's also written about heaven and he's very much focused on what, you know, we're not going to be just doing nothing floating around on clouds contemplating our navel. It would be an opportunity for us to work and to create and get involved in a lot of things. I like his analysis and his way of thinking, but he also writes a lot about money because Jesus talked a lot about money. And that's one of the key things with men as well. Talk a little bit about what you tell people about money with promise keepers, because that's such a powerful drag on our lives just like

sex and many other things but money has so much of a grip on our lives tell people what you tell men about money you think about the things in life that are the greatest blessing they also could be the biggest curses right sex right sex is an incredible thing it procreatreates species and amongst marriage. I wrote in Rise of the Serpent Kings that sex is the only thing that differentiates a marriage from any other relationship. Because anybody can share a bank account and raise kids together. It's sex that makes you one flesh. It's extremely precious and that's why sex outside of marriage is such a great sin. Fire. Think about fire. What a great

blessing you need to survive. Think about how destructive water, you need water, but boy, water can do destruction. Money is freedom. If you have a healthy attitude about it is the freedom to do what you'd like to do. Whatever I have some money and I'm going to spend it on something major. I think, okay, I have, I'm going to go buy a new truck. I have $50,000 in my hand. I can do anything with this $50,000. I want to from getting clean water and in Africa to fighting aides, to buying a big diamond ring, like whatever I want to do. Is this truck what I choose to give that to?

And it's a healthy attitude when you actually think that way, right? That is bondage that will destroy you, especially today. We have a lot of people are going to have been massive, massive problems because interest rates have taken off. If you had a bunch of credit card debt or you had floating interest rates with what's going on, people are going to get crushed. I know I'm not trying to be a who's the money guy data in Nashville.

I forget his name now. He's always saying, get out of debt. His name is escaping me as well. Yeah. My wife loves him. If you're a dad, get out of that. The thing about money, I actually had somebody come to me as a NFL football player and he said, look, I have this love of money.

I can't get over it. I said, you don't have a lot of money. What do you mean? I go money is a symptom. It's it's, it's not the disease. If you put money, there's something else. Why do you want money so bad? Is it because you lack faith and you think that I never have enough money? You know, I run a huge foundation and we had one woman who we went to to give some of her money away and she said, Oh no, I can't, I only have a hundred million dollars. I have to make sure I can pay the gas.

She had inherited from her husband, she didn't know what the value of dollar was. So money is great freedom, if you understand what to do with it. And it's it's a terrible curse if because it shows who you are. So if you're a greedy person, why are you greedy? It's pride. So if I have a million dollars, what would I do with the million dollars? I want to go and buy a Ferrari. Well, maybe I really like really fast cars, but probably I want the first everybody will look at me and think how cool I'm now. Right. I'm not going to judge that person, but what is it I want to do with money? So that's the thing we tell men, cash freedom, debt, bondage. If you're trying to accumulate lots of money, why is that? Because there's people dying. There's people who need stuff.

And I think it's okay to be comfortable. There's a conversation you can have. I'll tell you that I used to run a huge company, as you think you all sort of from our resumes, have a thousand of employees and made lots of money and create lots of jobs and I don't make take any money now I think you know that from promise keepers I get paid zero right but there's nothing wrong with having money because we can all judge well what is a lot of money well one day I was in a meeting with a couple of major major pastors and I had to leave and and the guy said well you got to leave can't wait to leave I go I got a plane to catch he's a yeah plane to catch and, and he's a guy said, well, you got to leave. Can't wait to leave. I go, I got a plane to catch.

He's like, yeah, playing to catch. And the other passion was going to be this. Yeah. Ken flies commercial. And they both put nothing. You have a private jet. I said, no. And I, and they're kind of mocking me. And I go, you know, there's something kind of telling about the fact that the two guys who,

who live off the time, the money of others have private jets. And the guy who's created tens of thousands of jobs flies on Southwest. I'll leave that there. You know, and we both laughed, but boy, I know, Hey, that's between them and the Lord. I'm not going to condemn them for it, but I'm going to say for me, um, Southwest airlines is just plain adequate and, uh, flying for some more for $400 is a lot different than flying there for 15,000 on a private plane, but everyone has to be their own judge and be convicted in their own heart by the Holy Spirit.

Yeah. Oh yeah. That's a Dave Ramsey. Eventually. Yeah. Eventually it gets there. It just, it's a little bit slower now, but it's got all these extra paths. It's got to go around blockages, I guess, to get there.

But yeah, Dave Ramsey, the older we get, Dave Ramsey was always about staying out of debt and that's, that's really good advice. You know, we want, we don't want to make, but again, you know, with anything that we do, we can always become obsessive about it, you know, and I've seen people have gotten obsessive about, um, you know, getting out of debt and, and everything, but it is, as you point out, it is a bondage and, and, um, it's a very dangerous time to be in that kind of debt. Especially it's just, to me, it's just criminal what they're doing with the credit card rates now that they can get away with 29%.

I know, I know that's, that's like the average. It's just astounding to me that we allow that to happen, but it's just another one of these things where, you know, everybody just like, well, just passively That's like the average. It's just astounding to me that we allow that to happen, but it's just another one of these things where, you know, everybody just like, well, just passively accepted instead of trying to change it. Tell us what the seven promises of the promise keepers are. All right. I'm on vacation and I am totally, I cannot walk through all seven of them right now.

Well, first one I've got them in front of me. So I've got a cheat sheet here. Honor God, honor God. Tell us a little bit about that and we'll do the next one. You know, honor God is the whole point of our lives. Right. And how do we point it out? And one of the things I point out all the time is honor God.

We were just talking about how you can change things to a negative that are a positive. One of those things is honoring the name of the Lord and not using the Lord's name in vain, right? And a lot of people think that means saying god for something Oh god, I can't believe you just did that. That's certainly not a healthy thing. But that is not using the Lord's name in vain. Using the Lord's name in vain is actually something much more nefarious and

something done all the time in the church. And let me tell you right now, I cannot tell you, I speak all over the country. How many people walk up to me and say, the Lord told me that you. Right. How many times have I said, I have a word from the Lord. I don't know this person. I have a word from Lord and my, my first response is what verse is it? Yeah.

But yeah, people manipulate and use others with this business of putting things in the name of the Lord that are not in the name of the Lord. And I'll keep, I could keep going. Um, people who come up with doctrinal points and say, well, God said this, well, you shouldn't drink alcohol. Cause when Jesus drank alcohol, it was really just grape juice. Well, maybe it was, and maybe it wasn't, but you don't know that. Right? So using the Lord's name in vain is attributing things to God that God didn't say. Right? And I use the example in Rise of the Sermon Kings on this, we talk about how somebody said, they gossiped about another person or slandered that person. And they said, even Ken Harrison

agrees with me. Well, in fact, I didn't agree with them. This buddy called me up and said, Hey, he said, you said, actually, I don't, but he was using Ken Harrison's name in vain. That right, trying to give himself authority by attaching it to me. That's what we do to Lord all the time. So honoring God, there's a lot I could go into on that. But rather than preach the whole sermon, I just want to pull that one thing out. Don't concentrate on the little easy obvious god as a little euphemism. Make sure that you look at your heart and you're not using and attributing things to God that are not God, they're really you your opinion. And

maybe your opinion is true. But it's better to say in my opinion, or the way I read this passage, or my experience has told me, right? But but do not go around around saying thus is the Lord if he didn't say it that makes you a false prophet. Yeah. Yeah. Kind of a name dropping that's out there, you know, as your, and, and, you know, I also look at it.

My head's heard somebody say once we call ourselves Christians, you know, that really comes from, you know, kind of a combined thing of Christ's men, right? And Jesus said, why are you calling me Lord, Lord, if you don't do what I say? And so we can, by calling ourselves Christians, when we don't really care what Jesus says, that's a way I think of taking God's name in vain. But you know, there are people who deliberately do it, and I find that that... I've told the story to my audience before Karen and I years ago, probably about 25 years ago, we went to see Penn and Teller perform and yeah.

And they're funny, but he got at the end of his kind of towards the end of the thing after they'd been there for a while. And he starts talking about language and says, you know, I really hate it when people use the F word. They use it for every form of speech. They use it as a, you know, an adverb and an adjective and all the rest of the stuff. And he goes, it just makes you look stupid because you don't have any vocabulary.

So I refuse to use that. He says, I deliberately take the name of Jesus in vain because I want a blaspheme. You know, I don't believe any of that stuff. And so I do. And so, you know, my wife and I got up and walked out. But it was really very deliberate from him. A lot of people don't realize that they're doing that.

But I think, as you point out, this name dropping, or to say that I'm a Christ follower when you're really not, that really is a very serious thing, I think, that we need to look at ourselves and say, well, am I guilty of doing that in a different way? You mentioned your second promise is brotherhood. Tell us a little bit about that. Brotherhood is one of the things that we hear so often now

is about we shouldn't let men get together unsupervised by women, right? I didn't bring up a different church. There's another mega church that we've been having problems with right now that a bunch of major leaders have come together. And so we want you to go to this church. And the pastor of that church actually called me and said, I have a question for you. Yeah. Why aren't women allowed to promise keepers events? Uh, cause it's a men's ministry. No, because men, well, I just don't think that's right. Well, I said, let me ask you, do you have women's gatherings?

Women's. Well, yeah, all the time. So what? Why do you have women's gatherings all the time and not men's gatherings? Why is it that you're only critical of men's gatherings? Well, that's a good point. Well, let me ask you this, then. Why don't you have any women pastors preaching to the men? So let me ask you a point. Why are you so obsessed on that?

Yeah. If we're if men talking to men like men, why would I want a woman there? Because when, when you put one woman in, it changes how men behave. Men will be authentic. You know, you go to promise keepers event, you'll see guys falling on our faces in tears. I mean, the stories that come out of these events have changed lives. But there's a, when there's a woman there, men feel like they need to change. It's whether it's fair or not. I'm not saying it's fair. I'm just saying what it is. It was amazing to me that in our culture, another thing is somehow men are not allowed to get together.

Uh, there must be something going on in there that we don't know about. It's amazing thing. So, you know, again, I'm taking these things on, um, you know, in a small way, but brotherhood is very important. Men need to get together with other men and just hang out as we talked about a little bit. And sometimes let me know until I understand that. But I think when you put it the other way, one of the things I teach people, I was just asked this the other day, gee, I'm married for 33 years. What's the secret to having a great marriage? And I said, well, I got 30 seconds to answer that question.

I will just say empathy. Empathy is the number one thing. Put myself on the shoes of my wife and say, how does what I just say sound to her? Right. Well, anybody else in, in, in sake of marriage, this thing here too, for women to think, well, when women get together and have tea and whatever, it's all no big deal, um, same thing with men and have tea or whatever, it's no big deal. Same thing with men and women need to stop and just go, you know what, for my husband

to get together with godly men and go golfing and go fishing, those are important things because this is how men sharpen each other is by doing things together. So brotherhood is incredibly important. And again, the lies of Satan and the world are trying to keep men from getting together because if they do, they just might plot how to make the world a better place. That's great. I love that. Integrity, another promise, integrity. That is at the heart of being a man. What will I compromise? We talked about what's a conviction and what's a strong preference. Will I give all for the truth? You know that Revelation

21 8 has a list of eight sin. It says, if you are typified by these sins, you are not saved. It literally says, here's eight sins. If you're an adulterer, a murderer, a sorcerer, an idolater, all liars will for sure have their share in the lake of fire that burns forever. Never. I left the first one out. You know what the first one on that list is? It's pretty short cowards. Cowards is the thing that God says I'm going to start this list off of people

that shows for sure you're not a Christian coward. That doesn't mean if you committed a cowardly act, cause I think we all have. Yeah. If it defines you just like lying, you know, it's defined. Yeah. So integrity, because so much of a lack of integrity comes from cowardice. Right. I even say it's funny because the list starts with coward and ends with all

liars will liars and cowards are kind of the same thing. I mean, why didn't look like us are cowards, right? Yeah. They're trying to create something that's not really true about themselves because they're afraid of something somewhere. Integrity is I will not depart from the truth no matter what the cost. And that takes great courage. Courage is again, one of those things. All these other things we can define, they mean something. I know what it means to be pious. I know what it means to be generous. But courage is sort of this all-encompassing thing.

What is courage? And courage is integrity. It says, I will not bend, no matter the cost. What's that going to take? And I define courage in Daring Faith and Cowardly World as refusing to compromise

no matter what the cost is. Whereas cowardice is, um, not doing the right thing because of fear for something, because we're all afraid and the guy that, that, that, that charges the machine gun nest in the middle of a war, he's terrified. Yeah. He just does what needs to get done. That's right.

Yeah. That's a great definition. Uh, family talk about that. What, what, what is the promise of family? Malachi chapter three, um, people like Malachi. What is that? I know that's one of my favorite books in the Bible. It really listening here, a chance to read Malachi. It's the last book of the old Testament and it's absolutely fascinating. I could, I preach whole messages on Malachi, but in Malachi. It's the last book of the Old Testament and it's absolutely fascinating. I preach whole

messages on Malachi, but in Malachi chapter three, God says, I hate divorce because, because why? Because I'm jealous for godly offspring. Family is the most important thing you can do as a man of God is to raise godly kids, to pass it on to the next generation. There's lots of things that we have to do. I'm not minimizing other things, but I am saying that being, Coach McCartney, who served Promise Keepers, used to say, the most loving thing that a man can do for his kids

is love their mother. That's a hard statement, especially if you're divorced or you had bad problems, but literally, the most loving thing you can do for your kids is to love their mother. Godly man needs to be dedicated to his family because this is the building block of the church of community.

You have a strong family with godly kids, with a happy wife because she's cherished by her husband. Another free advice thing I'll give on family and marriage because I get asked about this a lot. The number one complaint you get from men is what? In marriage, a lack of intimacy. Then there's money and there's in-laws. Those are the three big things, but the lack of intimacy is number one by far. I tell guys absent a whole long thing to tell them, usually a lack of intimacy is because your wife doesn't feel cherished. If your wife

feels cherished, that means she feels safe, protected. She is the, the apple of your eye. I'm telling you, it has a massive effect on the intimacy level of an marriage. That's fantastic. Yeah, that's fantastic. Great advice of serving, serving. It's an amazing thing. Um, the godliest person is always the one who serves the most, not the one who rules the most, not

the one who rules the most. And we really have power wrong when we look at Jesus Christ, right? So we have the ultimate power. Jesus said, I can call down angels and wipe all these people out right now if I want to. But instead, he lowered his head in humility. And he says, that's the person I'm going to elevate in the last days. See, Ephesians chapter three says that it's a fascinating verse that I'd read a million times that friend of mine, Tim Dunn, points out to me one day, I'm like, how could I not have seen that? It says that God is teaching the full extent of his wisdom to the powers and the authorities in the heavens from the church, which is you and me, David. Now, what world do you or I have to teach the angels

that are around for millions of years? What's the one thing, what's the one experience that we have that they don't have? We live life by faith. This is our one chance. This lifetime that we have, the Bible says that the angels look on us with fascination. They can't understand it. They see things as they really are. We see things as through a glass darkly, it says, I think it's in James. So this is the one chance we have to make a massive impact for the rest of our lives. What will we do today? And this is why it's so important to not be tied into what does the world think? What's the world's opinion? Truth is eternal. It's not dictated on what the United States of America's culture happens to think. It's dictated on what does God say at the beginning and the foundations of time? This is truth.

I have a very strong conviction on gravity, and therefore you won't find me walking up to a cliff and jumping off, right? Do I have that same conviction on the trust on the promises that the Lord Jesus made in the Bible? Frankly, no, I don't. I have a lot of faith compared to most people, but Jesus isn't comparing me to most people. He's comparing me to the truth of heaven. How far am I in that conviction? Could you or I be like St. Jerome being barbecued and singing songs and going, I can't wait to get to heaven because bands, my reward can be great. Yeah. Not that I don't know that I ever will be, but I sure I'm striving towards that.

So that's, that's fantastic. Uh, number six unity. Unity. Really? A lot of that goes around racial reconciliation, which is, um, something that promise keepers was really big in the nineties and promise keepers actually kind of the originator of diversity and all this, bringing different races together.

I do think like we talked about earlier, it's one of those things that can become a God, it can take over where you're at. If you're saying, I'm just going to love a black man today because I'm white, and I'm going to, well, that's not going to do anybody any good. Is it coming from a heart of Christ? So unity is about unity in every aspect. Um, if you look at our board, you started to mention our board of directors

and Randy Alcort's on our pastor's board. And I've known Randy for she's 45 years. Um, I've tried to get him on when I reached out to him last time, his wife was dying of cancer. And I certainly understood he wasn't doing interviews at that point in time. Yeah. He's a good, good guy. But if you look at our board, you know, we have Senator Langford who's a Baptist pastor before he became a U S Senator. And we have, um, uh, Sam Rodriguez, who's a Pentecostal pastor. And we have,

you know, Pentecostals, Baptists, everybody around, we're unified around the cause of, of what we've been talking about, not around doctrinal differences. And we have great doctrinal differences. I mean, Sam Rock is an eye. We've had some two hour rate, great debates on different doctrinal issues, and we love each other and it never never is our anger. So unity is around racial unity, about understanding, you know, other people have different experiences. It's also understand theological differences. It's okay to disagree. It's okay if you believe in speaking in tongues and I different experiences. It's also understand theological differences. It's okay to disagree. It's okay if you've been speaking in tongues and I don't, it's okay if you're pre

tree, you know, pre trip and I'm post millennial and all those things. These are things just to sharpen each other and have good conversations on. I just had a pastor of a small church, but very intellectual. He gave a great podcast on post millennial, which is something I really didn't understand. Called him up, explained that to me, you know, here's how I see it. And he said, well, here's how I see it. He'd studied it. And we had a great conversation for an hour and a half around those issues.

We need to come to each other in humility, but in unity and say, boy, you see this differently than I do. I really want to learn from you. And I did have that majorly controversial issue in the church and I went to a main huge pastor and I sat down and I said look you believe this and I don't believe that and I don't understand why you believe it because you really want to have this debate. I go I don't want to have a debate I want to learn from you. I want to think that way because maybe I'm missing something and after two hours I realized I wasn't

missing anything but this is the this is the spirit with which we need to come together as Christians. Sure. Sure. Yeah. You're, you're not compromising on truth, but you want to understand where they're coming from and have that discussion. Promise seven, the final one here, obedience. Well, isn't that, that's the foundation, everything I've just said, isn't it? I mean, in you, in you, Jesus said, if you love me, keep my commandments. I was I was in a major meeting of mega church pastors, like 40 of them, and we're all sitting around on something and I was invited. I don't know why I was invited, but I'm sitting there and somebody was reading from Luke and

one of the pastors and I realized afterwards most of these were really liberal mega church pastors and he said, I don't believe in that Jesus. So that Jesus was mean and my Jesus was never mean. So I said to him, well, it says in Luke, you know, Jesus said, I came to set the world on fire and how I wish it was already a light. That sounds pretty mean to me. And Jesus said, well, I choose not to believe in that Jesus. And I said, well, if you don't believe in that Jesus, then you don't believe in Jesus. You believe in an idol called Jesus. And I think that's where we're at today is a lot of people don't actually know Jesus. They don't know who he is. They have invented a God in our own heads and they've slapped

the name Jesus on them. Because if you read the gospels, you'll see Jesus was extremely confrontational around truth, never around frivolous issues. God said to Jeremiah, if you speak noble words and not worthless ones, you will be my spokesman. So it is as a Christian, we will be in confrontation all the time. It's upon us though, to speak noble words and not worthless ones. It's not about whether we're getting a screaming arguments about who belongs in the national championship, is it Oregon or is it Alabama or whether there should be a border wall. But we do be very

diligent about all the issues we've talked about today. If you love me, keep my commandments. That defines a man or woman of God. Well, I tell you, there's a lot of wisdom in what you've had to say here and I'm sure there's a lot of wisdom in your book, A Daring Faith in a Cowardly World. And I will be picking that up and it's available at Amazon and everywhere. The books are sold. I'm assuming that it's at promisekeepers.org and you've got a website as well. Tell us the address of your website. I had it here, but I lost it. Uh, where can people find you in particular?

Ken R Harrison.com. Ken R Harrison. Okay. Yeah, there's a whole lot of Ken Harrison's out there. One of them is a gay porn writer, so don't go. Okay. So remember R R that's the one you're going to go to. And someone who's had, you want to go to.

And someone who's had, you've had so much experience as a, as a CEO of international company, a Marine, a police officer. But I think that probably, I don't, you were definitely suited for what you're doing right now with Promise Keepers. Thank you so much for what you're doing. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you're doing. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. The David Knight Show is a critical thinking super spreader. If you've been exposed to logic by listening to the David Knight show, please do your part

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