The David Knight Show - INTERVIEW Banks & War: 2 Sides of Same Coin

Episode Date: March 17, 2023

Tony Arterburn, WiseWolf.gold, looks at the rapidly unfolding financial events of the last week, the push for war, and the shotgun wedding of China & RussiaFind out more about the show and where you can watch it at TheDavidKnightShow.com If you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here:SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-showOr you can send a donation through Mail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @[e-mail] App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Money is only what YOU hold: Go to DavidKnight.gold for great deals on physical gold/silverBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.

all right joining us now is tony artaban of wise wolf gold and as i said before he's kindly set up david knight dot gold if you go there and he knows that you're coming from me uh it helps this program and tony's been a big supporter of this program uh tony thank you for coming on today and thank you for all the times that you help when we've got to do something or take take a day off and tony is always there to either do the show or produce the show but it's it's been a while a lot of things happen since you uh did the show last week it's amazing to me to see how quickly things are falling into place i mean i was you were doing the show because i was at the tennessee senate talking to them about the dangers of CBDC.

And then within a couple of days, you had this banking crisis and you got all these people biting their nails over the weekend. Am I going to lose the money that I had in the bank? All these wealthy venture capital firms and other things like that. And, of course, the bottom line is money is what you have in your hand. It's the bottom line, isn't it? We learned that lesson over the weekend as people were thinking about that. Well, first of all, it's always an honor to be here. It's an honor to host for you when you're away and produce.

And Gar did a magnificent job. So I'm glad we can keep the show streamed live when you go do things like that and speak out on CBDC, which is just, again, it's the, it's the most important issue of our time. In my opinion, you and I have discussed this many times. That's right. Yeah. It's right now. That's the tip of the spear. And it's the quickest way. It's not the only way that they've got. They've got multiple ways to get us there, but it's the most direct route to get us there. CBDC.

Well, what's the difference between apocalypse now and fed now, David, I'm trying to figure that out. I'm trying to figure that i'm trying to figure that you know uh big things have small beginnings i was talking to uh guard goldsmith yesterday on his show and he had a brilliant analogy looking at silvergate now silvergate was just the crypto bank and you put out that great article on substack nothing wrong with it it was absolutely it didn't have a banking failure there wasn't anything wrong with it just got shut down yeah and uh you know I used to have to wire to silvergate for my Bitcoin ATMs when I had or to supply my shop and the supplier that I went through used silvergated a lot of people don't understand that cryptocurrency

if you're in the business if you're trying to sell it, it is very hard to get banking. There's only, last time I checked, there's only like three banks in the U.S. that would actually take your business if you were a Bitcoin ATM. And you had to spend upwards to $20,000 or more just to get certified to have an account. And now people are scrambling. I saw all these articles about people saying, I've got to find somebody to bank with, and they're in other countries. And it looks like the U.S. is on its way, well on its way to cutting this off. So I'm going to move my operations somewhere else outside the U.S. That's exactly right.

And Clark Goldsmith compared it to the PCR test. You know, like there's something wrong. You don't have safe and sound banking practices. We see here that you tested positive for failure, even though there's no reason to fail. And I started to think about it. I said, this is financial gain of function, David. They are making Chimera hybrid monsters out of the financial sector by choosing who fails, who doesn't, and who gets bailed out, who doesn't. They create these zombie monsters, these giant banks. I thought it was really disturbing to see people taking money out of regional state banks and putting it into larger banks to fail too big to jail sometimes look at Lehman Brothers it was connected it was it was liquid it had it had tons of everything it needed to be strong and you know

and safe and sound according to the banking industry and it's gone a Washington Mutual the same thing I mean the Washington Mutual uh that was by my house in North Texas is now a fried chicken joint. So it's no longer a bank. And these were honest money, right? And these were giant banks. I go, where, where's the logic in this? And, and I think really that one of the issues that people have in this country today is they don't know what money is. They just, they don't know the difference between currency and money and then what

actual value is, intrinsic value. And that's one of the reasons I got into the business I'm in with Precious Metals because I read history. And I thought, well, I'm not going to be in the fiat system. I'm betting against it. So just watching that was really disturbing. I talked about it yesterday. I said, they are remaking the banking system. Don't you know these these are manufactured crises.

They don't have to happen, right? They're just, again, it's, I think it's financial gain of function. Well, you look at a first Republic, which they've all come together now to backstop. And yet, you know, there's a lot of evidence from the wall street journal that, uh, there was insider trading going on. You had a lot of, a lot of big trades by the people who were insiders in First Republic selling stocks when the price was $130. It was dropped down a couple of days ago to $20. It's just because of the money that's going to be given to them, $30 billion from this consortium of 11 banks.

Because of that, it jumped up to $34. But, I mean, that's a big difference. These people knew that there were some issues with it. And the issues with First Republic were worse than they were with Signature Bank. But Signature Bank was focused, and actually Barney Frank, being on the board there, told us the truth about it when Elizabeth Warren was lying about it. Said it's because they're coming after crypto. That's exactly what's behind all this.

My son was saying about Silvergate yesterday. He said it's kind of the Building seven of these banks that went down. They weren't even hit with a collapse. And so that's really kind of the smoking gun that lets you know what the real agenda is. It's really about crypto. And if you look at the Operation Chokepoint and what's been happening over the last couple of months and how this has been escalating. And the thing is, it's like Elizabeth Warren is the, at the center of all of this stuff, even now with FedNow coming out, you know, she's leading a whispering and not even a whispering,

she's shouting about Zelle. Oh, Zelle is susceptible to fraud and things like that. It's no more susceptible to fraud than a credit card is. You know, it's phishing attacks that, uh, was letting, was letting people get into the Zelle system. So, um, you know, they, they want to shut down any competition. They want to shut down the small banks as well. That's the real trap in all this. And this all allows them by putting out this, this information, scaring people, this whole idea that's, you know, too big to fail.

Uh, that is, um, one way that they can take out the small banks and say, well, it wasn't us. They got plausible deniability on it. Well, Elizabeth Warren, I mean, no surprise there. A communist wants a central bank to be in control of all the financial sector. And this is just, I mean, you watch what's happening. And somebody like us who's paid attention to this and knows kind of the inside game of what they're doing the problem reaction solution it really no is no surprise but people are just falling into this trap and they are setting us up for cbdc yes going after crypto one at a time the domino effect and it's going to add up to hey the solution to all this

I know that you like your digital coins I like like you like to practice digitally. Let's do this the safe way. You know, let's go through the federal government, through the federal reserve, through the treasury, all that. So we can look, we'll make sure that nothing bad happens to you when you're using these digitized transfers. And that's the fed now is just the beginning of that. I mean, and we know that's going to work because what you're just talking about, you know, everybody says, well, I want to go with the biggest bank I can find. That's where I want to put my money in. Well, instead of using Zelle or Cash App or Venmo, they will go with FedNow because it's like, hey, I don't have to worry about my money. They got this whispering campaign going throughout the media right now against Zelle and all the competitors.

And I don't like Venmo. They banned me. They don't like me. But they're going to say, well, you don't want to deal with these. They're private companies. They could go out of business, but the Fed's not going to go out of business, so you should be using Fed now. And that'll be the transition into direct CBDC for customers.

And that's what House Whip Emmer has been saying, trying to ban them fact of them going directly, uh, to the consumers and, um, using it for policy. Those two things are what he's trying to ban, but he doesn't have the,

even if he's got the votes to do it in the house, uh, it's not going to become law. It would be vetoed by Biden. They don't have the votes to override that veto. And that's a great point. I think the back door here, the Achilles heel that we have are

just the millions of americans who are unbankable and then this will come up with the cbdc as a solution to those people you know they've been um kicked out of the system or left out of the system because of credit scores or past banking history or just banking regulations in general so i i'm really fearful for that too that. I think they'll target those people first and say, no, you can get your Fed now or your CBDC, just sign up for this. And all of your benefits will come through this and it'll make it faster. And then you'll be required as a business to accept these payments. I think that's how they'll start, but it's all going to come from a crisis that they will manufacture, starting with FTX, going into now to the Silicon Valley Bank,

Silvergate, all this just spilling over into the main street sector. And I think this is just manufactured panic, getting people to pull out their deposits, putting into major banks. It's a giant wealth transfer. I'm watching it in real time going, they're doing this on purpose. I mean, it's sad to see that so many people are falling for it. And I don't know why that you would take your cash out and not just keep your cash if you had to do that, but you put it into, put it into a big bank. That's what I was saying. You know, when you, when you talk about, um, you know, uh, ha having your cash on hand, uh, what happens if they take down the

infrastructure, you know, you're not going to be, all the banks will shut down, just like we've seen, you know, with, uh, they took down the no-tam system, which told the planes, if there's a danger on takeoff or landing or somewhere around the airports or something like that. And so they took that down. So they just shut down all flights. They took down the accounting system for colonial pipeline. So they shut down the entire pipeline.

All you have to do is do something to the internet after everything becomes digitized and you're not going to be able to get your cash out so you need to have some cash and some other things you know under your direct control that's one of the things to take away from it but you know i i think uh tony when we look at how they're going to sell this and this was something we've already seen done in india with bill gates and the adharar system. What they do, they came, you're talking about the people who are unbankable because they've got bad credit risks or something like that. But the people who are on welfare, the people who don't have any money, the people who are already dependent on the state, they're going to be the ones that they come for first.

And Jared Kushner even talked about this in 2019 in the emails that CoinDesk or somebody did a FOIA request, and they found him talking about CBDC. And he said, oh, look, there's this interesting op-ed piece, and he passed it on to a Treasury Department official and said, this could be really good because we could use this for welfare, and it'd give us security for all of this and so forth and so on. That's the way they did it. Bribing people in India to take a number and you'll be served, right? It's the odd heart system is what they called it.

And if you didn't take that number of the beast, you're not going to get any of the welfare payments. You're not going to get any of the medical payments. And so the poor people who are already dependent on the government have to take the number or they're not going to get any of that stuff. And that's the way they'll roll it out here as well. I agree with you. It'll start there and then you'll be required as a business to take these payments and it'll just get more and more tied into the system. Our everyday lives will get more and more absorbed by it. I think that's the plan there. Do it from the inside and do it iteratively disruptively and iteratively from the inside that's that's the way that they

work you know and just or crises you know never let a good crisis go to waste david they're going to continue these crises and continue panic and get people to make the decision to go with whatever is the largest thing you know the best thing it's That's something that we've lost our way in this country. Decentralization, free markets are what built America. It's what built our society. And we're just losing it, throwing it all away to the federal government, to the centralized control of these multinational bankster class people. I mean, it's really sad to watch because, again, most people don't know what money is. They don't know, they don't know about our financial system. It's kind of like Henry Ford

said, if the people understood the banking system, there'd be a revolution in the morning. That's right. And people don't, there's a, there's a reason why they make it look complicated. It's really not that complicated. I mean, at the end, they make it look like you have to be a rocket scientist. Uh, I i mean you have to have so many degrees to understand it you really don't all you need to know is they pick and choose winners and losers they go and print it or create it on a keystroke of digitized units of the currency anytime they need it and that's why your house costs more why your car costs more it's why your food costs more it's not because those items went up in value. It's because your currency loses value. That's the game of fiat currency.

And it always looks like it's more complicated than it is because you have people like Jim Cramer saying, well, the way to outpace that is to buy these FANG stocks. And here's the Silicon Valley Bank. You really need to get into this. It's a hot pick. It's so funny because somebody put up that anti-Jim Cramer ETF recently. Like they just, whatever he does, they do the opposite and short it. And I, cause I thought that about that a couple of years ago, but he's just, I mean, right on target, right on cue. This guy's coming out and he's giving the wrong advice.

So yeah, it's fun to watch. You can get really rich. You follow and do everything that Paul Pelosi does. And you do the opposite of everything that Jim Cramer recommends. And if you want to predict the future, follow Bill Gates. If you want to predict, you want to know what's going to happen next. Just whatever Bill Gates is taught, who lobbying for or talking about or simulating. That's a big chunk of what's next anyway.

That's right. Well, you know, it is it is sad to watch this and it is sad to see how people really don't understand what's going on. Even with all all the talk about the 15-minute cities that's come you know uh come around and and you would think that that would be picked up by the people who are a part of the maga cult you know they're typically getting their news but people who are talking about the 15-minute city so even if they missed all the stuff about smart cities and all the rest of the stuff, that's out there. But then when Trump starts talking about how he wants to do his smart city, his 15-minute city, and they're all on board with that. You were talking about, you know, we used to understand that the path to liberty and freedom was self-reliance and decentralization.

Well, you know, having a custom-designed city to pack people in, that is a globalist dream. That is the opposite of everything that America has ever wanted. And what is really going to give you freedom and security, it's the opposite of that. You're going to be packed into these cities. You're going to be dependent on them for everything. And that's why they're all pushing it. And it was amazing to me to see Trump pushing that and nobody pushing back against him. And even the, even the outlets that are typically talking about the 15 minute

city as being a danger, they didn't attack Trump for talking about his, his super city. You know, they just let it pass for the most part. The name of that, the freedom cities. Yeah. It's like the Patriot Act, right? Exactly. People just fall for it.

And I, it's, it's sad to watch. You know, the MAGA cult looks like it's gaining momentum again. I mean, God forbid, but it looks like somebody's giving him some good lines. I looked at that CPAC speech, and they're triangulating. They had this with Cambridge Analytica, you know, 5,000 data points on every American in 2016 with Steve Bannon. So, you know, lock her up, build that wall. These are Cambridge Analytica. I wonder who they're using now because he comes out.

I'm your retribution. I'm, I'm the answer to the, we're going to obliterate the deep state. I'm thinking, weren't you president? And then we're going to build these 15 minutes. You know, I was thinking he had warp speed or the real bio weapon. Yeah. So maybe they'll get ludicrous speed for the cbdc you know just like it's a ludicrous campaign i think you should come out

and say i'm your huckleberry right i'm not your retribution i'm your huckleberry uh people say what's that about they were cultivating that what that right it's a care it's a caricature of of what we saw in 2016. But people are just so desperate for anything, any kind of pushback, any sort of leadership, that they'll ignore the fact that he got us here. And you and I both have paid a price in alternative media and then being in conservative media or Christian media because of that. But I'll continue to pay that price. This guy is a globalist traitor. Yeah. But I'll continue to pay that price.

This guy is a globalist traitor. Yeah. He's not. It's amazing to me. You know, see WND, Infowars, you know, all these people who would just, no matter what Trump does, it's like, oh, look, he says it's going to be the final battle against the deep state. It's like, are you kidding me? This is the final. It should be the final lie for this guy if you got a brain uh but they're just they keep deceiving people and it's amazing and it

just shows how malleable they all are and that's why it is so concerning why we need to all prepare individually i think uh because in the battle for the deep state he's like general mcclellan in the civil war and kept trying to give us and put him on line. Like he's got his amassing his sports. I'm going to attack now, you know, but he continues to run on how he's going to win it, you know, but never actually does anything. Yeah. Well, McClellan was a politician as well. Right.

He tried to get elected as well. So, uh, yeah, very much that talking about wars, uh, we've seen in the last couple of days, uh, that days that we should go to war. And that's one thing that Trump did right. Let's give him credit for that. You know, when Iran shut down an unarmed drone, you had the shrill people like Lindsey Graham. You know, we got to go into Iran.

Then he said, no, we're not going to kill people over the shooting down of an unarmed drone. But you got Sean Hannannity lindsey graham want us to go toe to toe with the ruskies over this total war just amazing to see that isn't it this is disgusting yeah i've been following the career of lindsey graham for many many years yeah i know i know the things that have come out of his mouth so disturbing like you look at uh his his comment on syria during the 2015 uh primaries he was talking about getting over and we had to put 200 000 troops on the ground in syria he was uh apoplectic saying if we didn't do that if we didn't occupy syria that that uh the

leadership was going to get us all killed i mean we're going to die because we didn't people like the america was going to be uh destroyed if we didn't go over and occupy uh syria and prop up al-qaeda and isis to defeat assad i mean this is this guy is is a lunatic yeah i mean he's never saw a war he didn't like um and it never held accountable david you look at what's happened to this country because of people like lindsey graham and the neoconservatives, by the way, neoconservatism runs the Republican Party. And if you know anything about neoconservatism and Irving Kristol and the roots of that, folks, they're Marxist. They're Trotskyites.

There was a great article that came out years and years ago. It said, Bill Kristol, your Marxist roots are showing. And because they're revolutionaries at heart. They're not Christians. They don't believe in the republic. They don't believe in what the founding fathers set up for this country. They are revolutionaries. They want a worldwide democratic revolution, which is anti-American, anti-liberty, and anti-freedom.

And Lindsey Graham has always been spearheading that. I mean, that is his god. In my opinion, Lindsey Graham's god is war. And it's the upheaval of that he's trying to project power i'll be talking about the the assassination of a world leader with with thousands of icbms and nuclear weapons yes that's amazing how unhinged is that can you imagine you or i saying something like that and having any kind of position of power that that is just true that's we live in truly insane times and lindsey graham is just just i think a shining example of the decay

of american culture just how far we've fallen you got and sean hannity too i mean you know this guy is he's he's learned nothing and he's forgotten nothing he's the same guy he was ever he's not changed he's not more enlightened he's might he might be worse because he repeats the same things over and over again but he learned nothing from the iraq war we learned nothing from no wmd yeah we learned nothing from that we learned nothing from our occupation of afghanistan that ended in failure uh it's just truly david it's i watch this unfold every day we're making the same mistakes over and over again. It's something like Pat Buchanan said, that the only lesson we learned from history is that we do not learn from history.

That's right. Yeah, what bothers me, I think, the most about Sean Hannity is how he fawns over anybody in uniform. Thank you for your service. You're a great American, all this other kind of stuff. It's like, why did you push this guy into a war in Iraq? And now you want to hand him out medals or something like that why did you tell that? Why did you push this guy into a war in Iraq? You know, and now you want to, um,

uh, hand him out medals or something like that for something that you pushed him into. I mean, he fawns and pretends that he's the military's greatest friend. And yet I think he's a military's greatest enemy. We should be focused on trying to defend this country and focus on trying to stay out of war.

That's what I said earlier about Ronald Reagan. When Lindsey Graham saying, well, what would Ronald Reagan do? Well, Ronald Reagan would build up the military from position of strength as a deterrent, but he wants to go in and build the military up by starting a war and then

coming back in and, and, uh, you know, as a free ticket for the military industrial complex. That's how I see it. Another example of, of Lindsey Graham doesn't know anything about history, doesn't know anything about Ronald Reagan.

I'm not a fan. I've just read a lot about Ronald Reagan. Matter of fact, do you know that what Ronald Reagan's last act as commander-in-chief was is he was walking out of the Oval Office to go to the inauguration of Bush 41. What was it? He saw a Marine in the doorway. He stopped and he saluted and he said, my greatest mistake was Lebanon.

Yeah. And he did it about face and walked out of the oval office. Yeah, that's right. You know, and I talked about this, you know, what did Ronald Reagan do? Well, he didn't stay there to save face. He didn't stay there to show how powerful he was. He didn't stay there.

Oh, we're going to show them a lesson when that happened in Beirut. He left. That's exactly right. And Ronald Reagan, by the way, for all his faults, called for the abolition of all nuclear weapons on planet Earth. He wanted zero nukes. Yeah, he called the Soviet Union an evil empire, but he wanted zero nukes. He wanted peace.

You know, the end of the 80s, you have that great scene of Ronald Reagan walking, you know, shoulder to shoulder with Gorbachev in Red Square. They're, you know, patting each other on the back, and Ronald Reagan stopped and gave a prayer and invoked God Almighty in the Soviet Union. You know how powerful that, that kind of, can you imagine any of our leaders today? Is Lindsey Graham calling for God's grace and forgiveness and mercy and calling for peace? This guy's a satanic warmonger. This is the opposite. And I'm not defending Reagan.

You talk about the 1986 immigration amnesty, or are you talking about the 1986 act for the Fauci and bargain with vaccines? They're bad. He made a lot of mistakes. He ran up the deficit, all that. And again, that's, that's what I failed to get rid of the department of education.

I've talked about that many, many times. Yeah. And, um, you know, the deficit, he ran it up so much.

That's why Ron Paul resigned from the Republican party. Ron Paul was the first person to support Ronald Reagan. And, um, when he ran, um, in 76 and, um,

did not get the nomination. Uh, but he was also, he resigned and discussed about 10 years later because of the ballooning deficit. Right. No, that's exactly right. And that's, it's Ron Paul's a man of principle and Ronald Reagan skirted around a lot of issues but we we've come a long way uh we we look around now and who is in the the position of leadership and decision making that has any rationale anymore yeah this is what's terrifying i mean you talk about how close we are to a kinetic war to a hot war to something spilling over and i don't know if these people realize they've never been in a war they don't understand these things take on a life of their own.

It's like playing with fire. I mean, eventually, it just gets out of control. One thing leads to another, unforeseen variables. I know that they run their simulations, and they think they're really intelligent because they've got their think tanks and their AI. But I promise you, there's something in this mix. If you keep testing it, it's going to spill over and you know the the media you look at fox news and the sean hannity's are the usual suspects but you look at um the calls for uh conflict with china yes and they don't there's another example of not knowing their history we've long ago ceded formosa in

taiwan to the communist chinese through nixon and kissinger verbally and then through jimmy carter putting it in writing in 1979 with Zygmunt Brzezinski something has changed and I think that the media is now cheerleading this we've pivoted from you know totally ignoring China to China's enemy I think the people need to have especially listeners and everybody in America needs to be very suspicious of what's going on now. We're being primed for conflict so that the failures, the internal failures of our parasite class in politics can be projected on an outside source. All of this is, I mean, well, at least we're never lacking in material to talk about on shows anymore. I mean, it's going to change.

Well, that's what Joel Skousen has said for the longest time. He said they want to destroy this country. They want to take a first strike and they want to destroy change. That's what Joel Skousen has said for the longest time. He said they want to destroy this country. They want to take a first strike, and they want to destroy it. That's part of their great reset. And it was interesting, Tony, when I was reading Shari's book, The Four Battlegrounds, that I realized that that whole book is about four battlegrounds with China. How do we stack up against China in these four areas? And I wanted to talk to him

because it was about AI, but as I was going through it, I did not realize what, I didn't realize that Taiwan is really the epicenter of semiconductors. 93% of the most advanced computer chips come from there. And the vast majority of, you know, computer chips, these massive foundries that they have there out of Taiwan. They're not going to let that go over to the Chinese. That's what's really the foundation of all this and why they will go to the mat to protect this. But of course, if war breaks out, we've already had people, that's not in his book, but outside

of his book, you've got Pentagon people saying that's not in his book, but outside of his book, you've got Pentagon people saying, no, it's going to be a scorched earth policy. We're going to, before we let those semiconductor foundries go into the hands of the Chinese, we'll destroy all of them in a scorched earth policy. Well, what's that going to do with a supply chain issue? That, you know, even if you don't have a kinetic war that's going to break out on the U.S. mainland, that would disrupt everything so much it would be unbelievable and a very, very, very long time to recover. Probably I would not be alive by the time they got back to where they are today.

And when you look at the pronouncements coming from the Pentagon, you got a high-ranking official. I forget what her title was, but she said, you know, looks like we're going to have war with China. We have war with China. It's going to erupt onto the mainland of the United States. They're fine with that. They really don't care. Well, General Milley will have to forego making his phone call to warn the Chinese before they do the scorched earth on Taiwan. That's what they'll do.

And, you know, I don't know. Are they thinking that logically? I don't think so. I mean, is that in and itself is a very aggressive act of war that will continue. That won't stop anything. That will escalate tension. That will just create more kinetic warfare. I think that every one of these scenarios,

as Winston Churchill talked about, the terrible ifs accumulate. kinetic warfare yeah i think that every every one of these scenarios that this winston churchill talked about the the terrible ifs accumulate i mean looking at ukraine and russia and the media and for whatever reason uh the politicians can't seem to understand that uh russia is not trying to occupy and take ukraine if it wanted to do that it would have done that a long time ago and i'm not a russify i'm not offending them. You know, again, the aggressor nation, they have a lot of problems, but they're not trying to to occupy and take Europe. And this is such a silly analysis. This is the domino theory.

It's a domino theory. Again, going back to Vietnam, you know, they keep running the same playbook again with slight variations you know this is going to be if we lose ukraine we're going to and how many of these hollywood movie star geopolitical experts have you heard repeat that talking point you know if ukraine goes that's it for all of western civilization it's all going to go domino theory russia will go everywhere these people are up they're just they're so precious david they're it's always it's always 1938 it's always munich it's all every every war every conflict is always appeasement it's always neville chamberlain and they don't even understand that history yeah if you understand that history then none of the things you are saying that they that it that it compares to are are accurate either so just lack of historical sense and we're we're just sleepwalking into this war. And God forbid.

And a lack of logical consistency. They're saying this at the same time that their line was. Now they're changing their line and saying, oh, look, Ukraine's on the ropes. But they were saying this at the same time they were saying Russia's on the ropes. Well, you know, if Putin is about to die and he's got some kind of severe illness and his hands are shaking and all the rest of this stuff. And he's desperate and everybody's turning against him. How could you then at the same time say, and this is going to be a domino theory for all of Europe. It just doesn't make any sense.

It's not consistent. They can't even come up with a consistent lie. Well, it's like the drudge report. They're not doing this much lately, but if you remember about the first three or four months into the war uh they would run headlines like uh russia loses a thousand troops a week and i remember just looking at calculating that wait a minute that's impossible you know like just if you know anything about the history of warfare it's just absurd and then they run the headline so it's it's it's simultaneous that uh

that putin is dying there's going to be a coup d'etat. He's got, you know, or he might already be dead or something, but he's also the most dangerous, you know, new Hitler that the world has ever seen. And things aren't true. This is something they're putting, again, projection, putting all the blame onto Russia when we know the history of NATO.

We know what they've done. We know the NATO expansion. We know, you know know bombing Serbia for 78 days during the Clinton administration and the Balkans occupation. We know moving NATO closer to Russia's borders has been a provocation. And we promised them verbally through James Baker in 1992 that we would not do that. We violated every promise that we've made, and we're militaristic. We're right on their border.

It's an existential threat. So that's why that's gone on. But at the same time, you have the media preparing the United States and the people for war. We're clearly being primed for that, and that's concerning. I mean, Lindsey Graham isn't helping. He's talking about going into Mexico. I mean, it's totally unhinged, David. Well, you know, and you look at things, you got like Alexander Dugan, who's kind of like the David Koresh of Russia, right?

Circle the wagons. They're going to kill everybody. And so what do you do? You show up and you start shooting, you know, and it's like, see, I told you. And it's like, see, I told you and it's on. Right. And so you've got Alexander Dugan, who's been saying this for the very, for a very long time, you know, going back to Yugoslavia and what was happening. There's like, NATO's coming for us. It's an existential fight and all the rest of the stuff.

And, and then they do everything to make him look like a, you know, a profit including, and I think, you know, the, the targeting of his daughter, I think, you know, the targeting of his daughter, I think that was an amazing strike to show, to shore up the Russians to get them to see this as an existential fight. I don't, you know, the U.S. doesn't, and NATO does not want peace. They want war. And they want to keep Russia energized, backed into a corner, seeing this as an existential threat. And I think the murder of his daughter, the assassination of his daughter was all part of that. The Russians are going to look at this.

Dugan's going to look at this. See, I was right from the very beginning. Yeah. Yes. And we've been building that. I mean, I think in this respect, Joel Skousen is 100% correct. We're building up Russia to everything that we could have done post-Cold War. And you look at the writings of somebody like Gore Vidal. He was calling for some sort

of economic union with Russia after the fall of the Soviet Union so we would ensure peace. We did everything to run away from that. We expanded NATO. We expanded our operations. We continued to interfere in their internal politics and so on and so forth. That's why you got Vladimir Putin at the end of the 20th century. He was sworn in just going into the year 2000. That's why you have him. It's a backlash and nationalistic response to our interference and our expansion of our military power there so if you don't understand that then you don't understand the conflict in in ukraine and uh again that's the the media is complicit in this uh putting the american people on a war footing we have we have no summits for peace anymore david no there's no one calling for peace there's and there's and that's that's something

new yeah you know that no administration and that I've ever read about would have no exit strategy at all. I mean, they have nothing that there's, there's no, there's no push for peace. There's no negotiations, nothing.

No, the rhetoric is even just ramped up more and more and more. So, you know, the interesting thing, and I talked about that today, the statements made by, you know,

Trump has said, you know, if you're going to have a world war three, if I don't get elected, DeSantis has said, this is a regional conflict. We don't need to be there. And you're seeing this with all the presidential candidates, uh, so far, uh, probably pencil be different, probably pencil. Yeah. And,

and if Pompeo comes in, certainly Nikki Haley is a neocon candidate. I'll never forget. You're talking about trying to push us into Syria. I'll never forget how adamant she was along with theresa may that because of that ridiculous scrapal poisoning he didn't die right uh and it wasn't nerve gas if it had been uh the russian nerve gas he would have been dead as as uh putin said and laughed you know because it was seven times more potent than our nerve gas vx but um it was um from all indications it was uh times more potent than our nerve gas, uh, VX, but, um, it was, um, from all indications, it was, uh, a substance that was used as dry cleaning. Um, um, stuff, you know, I had same symptoms and that type of thing. And they did find it when they finally did an analysis, they found a lot of that

and they found traces of newly added. Um, and I forget what the name of the nerve gas that the Novichok was it. Novichok. Yeah, they had new, and the Swiss lab cleverly put it in. They said recent traces, you know, new traces of Novichok. In other words, this has not been there for the last, whatever it was, a month, month and a half, two months that they sensed the poisoning. So, you know, the whole thing was used to try to get us in for the third time.

And it was Nikki Haley more than anybody else. I'm sure she would be in on that. But the reason I brought this up was it's kind of interesting to see that the Republican candidates for president are reading the voter base and they're telling the saying what the voter base, the Republican voter base wants. But you don't see anybody in Congress, you're right, just a few people in Congress pushing back against what's going on in Ukraine. And just on the Republican side, nobody on the Democrat side pushing back against it. But it's only the people who are trying to put together their campaign for 2024. And even if they were sincere about it, even if they're going to do something about it may be uh on before that all happens i think it will be i think i think there's a real possibility of that they'll just be stuck with it i don't believe them i'm sorry to be so cynical um i know my

history i go back you go back to the election of woodrow wilson and his slogan was he kept us out of war in 1916 for re-election they kept us out of war the first thing he did was to declare war he's sworn in as president that's right uh you know a lot of people think it was the Lusitania right then no the Lusitania happened in 1915. same thing with Franklin Roosevelt Franklin Roosevelt says you know I he's running for an unprecedented uh third term he says uh you know I've seen war. I hate war. Your boys won't be sent into another European war. Next year, your boys are being sent into a European war.

I mean, this is in Ron Paul's right in history in the modern era after World War II, Republicans were elected to end wars. Eisenhower taking over for Truman. Nixon from LBJ in Vietnam. And you could argue a lot about the Nixon administration, what he actually did. But I think there was a clear goal to rebalance power. That's why this is so concerning now, because there is no rebalance of power. We were making all the wrong moves if we wanted to have a lasting peace. Same thing with Ronald Reagan.

He was elected to end the Cold War. It needed to be wound up. He wound it up nicely, I think. I mean, even the communism obviously didn't die. It's alive and well in all of our institutions of government and finance right now in the United States. Yeah, we brought in just like Operation Paperclip. That's exactly right. It metastasized.

And that's where we are. This current crop of politicians, I'm sorry, I'm cynical. I agree. I think it's simply, you said nobody's saying anything. At least they're saying something about it, but they're not going to do anything about it. And if they get elected, I think it's going to be too late for them to do anything about it anyway at that point.

Oh, now we're at war. Now everything has changed. I know i said it was for peace zielinski ran and got elected on a platform of peace so you know the politicians say they know that people want peace they'll promise peace but they'll give us war you're absolutely right i was interested to see what you thought about um Jinping being a negotiator in this with between Zelensky and Putin and inserting himself into this. I thought that was an interesting sea change. I don't know what that means. I mean, you could look at it in several different ways, but it looks like China wants to get involved in the outcome of Ukraine, which is different. That's something that they haven't been real vocal in these type of geopolitical events in the last almost ever my lifetime.

But they're inserting themselves now because you can see the power shifting. You can see economically, you know, they run the simulations and Martin Armstrong Socrates program and saying that the only way that the West can save the dollarICS nations emerging China being the strongest economy from Brazil Russia India China South Africa now adding Saudi Arabia that is a major move and seeing that you could just you know history is interesting you can like if you go back and look at when did the British empire pass from being you know the the empire which the sun never set to what Gore gorvado called an aircraft carrier for the united states i mean they they went uh really quickly yeah you know and it was that throughout the you know they lost the gold standard in in 1914 going into

world war one they tried to get it back when winston churchill was chancellor of the exchequer and that failed uh and throughout the 30s they just became weaker and weaker and with the emergence of the of the nazi germany and then world war ii and they were just gone yeah and the in breton woods happened in 1944 david as you know they you know created the imf the international monetary fund and they pegged uh the dollar to gold 35 dollars now it's the new economic world order was set i think what we're watching is a new Breton Woods. We're losing the dominating power, the hegemonic dominating power of the dollar as the world's reserve currency. And it's happening gradually.

They lost the will to continue as they were. You look at that. They went soft. The British Empire went soft. And the U.S. has gone soft as well. They don't have the desire to do what is necessary to even provide for themselves. You know, and that is kind of a generational thing. You have a generation that that builds and a generation that consumes and gets soft. We see that happening over and over again.

But in terms of what you asked about China, I think China understands that they are the target. They've made no secret about it. All the military industrial complex. I mean, you know, Shara works for an organization that gets money from Soros and Hillary Clinton was there at the inauguration. I mean, they're tied to all the major military industrial complex, though, you know, when they talk about, you know, here's our four battlegrounds and it's all about China. And

I'm seeing that from all, not just from him and not just from that organization, but I'm seeing it from all of these, you know, they all see China as the target and they know that they don't want to fight Russia and China at the same time. So they want to take out Russia first. And that's why I think China wants to support Russia, because they see that they're going to be an ally in a war with the U.S. And so they don't want them to fall first, and they're going to do whatever they can. They're already shipping material, you know, weapons and body armor and stuff like that to the Russians from China. They know that they don't want to stand alone against the United States. They want to have as many allies as they can, and Russia is going to be their ally.

I think that's why they're making those kinds of moves. I think you're correct, and it's a catastrophic failure on our part as the United States to have lost the opportunity to reset the balance of power after the fall of the Soviet Union. We flipped China in 1972 for good or ill, and it looks like kind of ill. the opportunity to reset the balance of power after the fall of the soviet union you know we flipped china in 72 for good or ill and looks like kind of ill um even richard nixon thought that uh that we had done something that possibly could have a massive blowback before he died he said you know about about china awakening and that's something napoleon said you know the the don't don't awake the the sleeping dragon you know and it's not going to be

beneficial to you we've awoken it we flipped china to end the cold war in 72 and uh but we didn't do anything in this modern era to to build alliances we've been just going around a clubbing people over the head as the policemen of the world we got 700 bases in 132 countries we're bankrupt foreign policy wise on paper we're bankrupt foreign policy-wise on paper. We're bankrupt now financially. We have the worst crop of politicians in the history of the United States running things now. So I think the, and again, I don't want to, this isn't a downer. I don't want to be depressing.

People need to wake up and realize that the normalcy bias, the system as it was uh bet against it uh bet on yourself bet on bet on your neighbors bet on uh the community that you can build bet on local uh bet on free speech and getting out programs like this you know stop betting on this system because it's being run into the ground there's a creative destruction going on your son talking about uh uh the the silver gate bank being building seven. Absolutely. We're watching, we're watching the control demolition of our,

of our financial system to fit the needs of these psychopaths. And, uh, the answer to that is free markets. The answer to that is decentralization. The answer to that is we, the people. That's right.

And, uh, you know, one of the most positive interviews that I've had in a long time was talking to Noah a couple of days ago about what he's trying to do, you know, educate people how to grow food for themselves and to build community, to build a relationship with Christ through that community and all the rest of this stuff. But he's trying to get people, essentially, you know, he's running workshops, said, you know, if you want to learn how to do this and learn how to train other people and how to build communities in your area, I mean, it's a great model and it is from the ground up.

And, uh, that's the only thing that's going to be, um, working for us. But of course there are things that we can do individually to prepare. And that's why, you know, we, we talked to you why I like to promote what you've got there at wise Wolf, uh, gold dot gold. Uh, because, um, you know, we need to make sure that we are out of this financial system as much as we can tell people what's happening at a wise wolf. Well, we've got a lot going on, uh, after this, uh, kick up with the banking crisis, we just got in with phone calls and emails and, uh, you know, we're, and

I'm happy to have the business I've got, you know, um, when I started this, David, it was me and my dog, Layla, and we had a little shop in San Antonio and I had a Google listing and that's what, that's how I handled my business. Uh, now I've got, you know, uh, three full-time employees, uh, and, uh, Kenzie's there, the head trader. I've got two full-time ladies here that work in my office who pack wolfpack packages um and we're doing it in like hundreds at a time that's great we're really really excited about that because wolfpack in the membership program is the other

aspect of what we do and that is just building community building monthly memberships for people uh the more people that join the stronger that we get the more the better products that i can buy into if you're looking at things like i'm looking at whenever something like this happens and there's a banking crisis and this is a small blur i mean compared to what it could be um you start seeing supply chain issues with getting product from the mints from wholesalers they start putting on like we've got two or three week delays now on canadian maple leaves and that happened overnight you know it was like oh they're all live on the trading floor now we're about you know almost 30 days out to get

a silver canadian maple leaf or a gold maple leaf and this is just what happens when there's any sort of schism in the market because most people don't realize is that if you're buying precious metals you're in a fraction of a fraction of the population you're a small percentage there's not enough really to go because of slv and and gld and the stock market you know and i talked about it before it's estimated that there's only one physical ounce of silver for every 240 sold you know on these exchanges. So I'd be careful. So we deal in physical. That's coming out of Shanghai.

Certainly it's trustworthy, isn't it? These paper gold accounts, yeah, they've got all of it in the vaults there in Shanghai. You can count on that, right? Well, we promise it's there. So I appreciate you letting us sponsor the program and uh we have some more um uh listeners that from from you that have come through that we'll be working with today and uh of course that's for direct sales and and kenzie told me to mention you know we you know you can also wolfpack not is is great but you can also

call us if you just want to just buy it something direct we don't have a minimum we don't have a maximum um so we can get your product to you but i wanted to mention something about wolfpack um i want to run a special and i didn't know if anybody knew that if you're a lone wolf if you join lone wolf and that's the 50 program i put gold in there and i don't want to sound like i'm a uh you know a marketing shill orill or something or one of these mattress salesmen. I'm crazy prices. But I lost money on the Lone Wolf package so I could put out these half gram sovereign gold coins because I promised the lowest tier would get gold. So we lost about five or six bucks putting it out on cost after shipping, which is fine because I've got plenty of other members and we're doing

okay. But that is for your listeners and for everybody who's been a loyal customer. I put gold in there for you. So if you join Wolfpack, if you join the lowest tier, you're going to get gold. And that's a limited time. I don't know how much longer it will last. I know, Kenzie, we bought about 20,000 worth of those smaller gold coins. And then I also wanted to say, I'm going to run a special, and this is going to include Warrior Wolf Level and Up, which is the $125,000 and up. If you join any time between now and Monday, I'm going to include a brilliant, uncirculated American silver Eagle in your package for free. Wow. So that's an incentive to get, we're almost at 500 members

and I'm right on the edge of it. So let's just do it. And if I'll just run that special up until close of business Monday. So if you're hearing my voice and you're getting David's podcast and you can give David Knight credit there on the dropdown menu at Wolfpack.gold, or just go to David Knight gold and click the link. But, uh, that, that to me is, is part of the community building. Cause I've noticed as I've gotten stronger, we got more members.

I've just gotten much better deals and much better product for people. So go and check it out. That's great. Yeah. And of course, you know, the Wolfpack thing, we talk about that so much, as you said, people can buy any amount, uh, just direct. Uh, we talk about the Wolfpack thing because it's a gradual thing. You know, when I talk to anybody that I've talked to in terms of learning how to do, grow your own food and that type of thing, they said the big mistake is try to do everything

all at once. And of course, you know, the power of saving, which again, they don't want us to do with CBDCs. They want to make sure we can't save anything. And that's why you put some money aside and some gold and silver. And by doing it with a gradual process and gradually accumulating it and getting accustomed to that, it's almost like building your financial muscle, you know, doing a little bit on a regular basis like that.

So that's why we, we focus on, on that club thing. You mentioned, um, you didn't want to sound like a mattress salesman. And I immediately went back this, steve bannon's um i guess you could say his sponsor you know this this uh chinese billionaire guo they busted him did you see some of the stuff that he was buying uh he had two 36 000 mattresses and that. It's like, what is it about a mattress? What could you do to a mattress to make it worth $36,000? And it was just this long list of luxury item, things like that, that he had bought. And it's like, I don't know, but I guess that's one of the reasons why the wealthy can never get enough money because they, they spending it on spending $36,000 on a mattress. It becomes ridiculous at some point. It does.

I love that quote from Hemingway. He was kind of making fun of F. Scott Fitzgerald. You know, the rich are different, you know, in the Great Gatsby. He says, yeah, the rich are different. They have more money. They just have more money and they do stupid things with it. Some of the best sleep I ever got in my life was on an army cot, you know, because I was so tired. So I don't know if it matters you know necessarily if you go at some level you're just not you're just overspending

you know whether it's on a vehicle or a mattress or anything else but yeah your car your your you know you get a 37 million dollar yacht and a nice boat or whatever or the clothes you know the amount of money that there's thousands of dollars on a dress you can't tell the difference between that and anything else it's just the name. It's just amazing. But anyway, um, we, we don't have that problem. So, um, reality, I deal in gold and silver, but I'm not in love with money. I'm just not in love. It is a certain level.

It's great to have enough. You can take your family to dinner. You can pay your bills. You're just not had that. You don't have that worry that that pain in your gut, you know, I've got to make the mortgage payment. So if that's satisfied, you can focus on being creative and doing things like media or you don't want to be addicted to it.

You don't want to control your life. You don't want to love it. You know, you want to use it, but not love it. That's the key thing, right? Because the love of money is the root of all evil. Thank you so much for joining us as always. Great talking to you, Tony. Thank you.

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