The David Knight Show - INTERVIEW Border Collapse - How To Protect Yourself from Societal Collapse

Episode Date: May 16, 2023

Jack Lawson, CivilDefenseManual.com, looks at general lessons to be learned from some recent high profile cases where people made mistakes that put them in jeopardy. Find out more about the show and where you can watch it at TheDavidKnightShow.comIf you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here:SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-showOr you can send a donation through Mail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @[e-mail] App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Money is only what YOU hold: Go to DavidKnight.gold for great deals on physical gold/silverFor 10% off Gerald Celente's prescient Trends Journal, go to TrendsJournal.com and enter the code KNIGHTBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.

Welcome back and joining us now is Jack Lawson. He is the author and I should say also editor because he had a lot of contributing experts, many of them special forces people. Two volume set here, Civil Defense Manual. You can find it at civildefensemanual.com. And I wanted to get Jack on because you look at this chaos that is being deliberately created by the Biden administration at the border. And right now it's just at the border. But what happens when it comes to your town?

And of course it is going to come to all of our towns in one way or the other, most likely, because there's nothing that's being done by anybody to stop any of this stuff. Nobody's turning off the tap. Nobody wants to turn off the magnets that are pulling people in. They don't want to stop any of the things that are the underlying cause of this. So this is something that is going to spread. Hopefully it's not going to be in your town, but there are some things that you need to think about. And that's one of the things that's good about civil defense manual. It has so many different aspects of life and how to protect yourself against it.

Thank you for joining us, Jack. It's good to have you on again. Good to be on your show, David. I wanted to ask you this because, you know, we also have this case of the rancher in Arizona. He had this group of guys on his,

he's right on the border on his private property. And he's had a lot of traffickers coming through and a lot of things like that. And there's a group of guys that were there and military fatigues he said he shot a warning shot he called the police they came out they looked all over the place border patrol they didn't find anything uh later in the day he went out and he saw an individual who was dead he called him again and they've arrested him uh and um you know he says that he didn't shoot them They didn't find the body there at the initial time. He said he was firing over their head.

I mean, this is the type of thing that could essentially be coming to any of our towns. What do you think about that particular case? I mean, this is a guy, he's kind of isolated. I know a lot of the stuff that you're talking about is with the community. What would you say to, if you had a chance to money, money morning quarterback that, uh, how would you have done it differently or did he do everything the right way?

And they're just persecuting him. David, uh, as you know, I spent seven years on a, uh, well, it was the third largest, uh, police board in the United States. And what I did was judge the officer involved shooting OIS. That being said, I know a lot about it's been 15 years since I've been on that board, but the basics of self-defense don't really change as far as the mechanics of it. However, I would not want to say much that would affect this rancher's case. When I did a study of an officer-involved shooting, I listened to tape recordings, 911. I listened to homicide detectives.

I would spend sometimes two hours down at the homicide department going through the file before we had the meeting and did a judgment of whether this officer had justifiable cause to use deadly force. And that usually involved firearms. That being said, I really don't have a lot of information on what happened. My understanding was this guy, this rancher, was absolutely inundated with people coming across the border. It's a sad situation.

Obviously, part of this woke attitude is to stop your right for self-defense, which to me is a basic human right to use violence. I mean, I don't know what's going to get us to a Star Trek existence, but certainly it's going to be about everything. Set phasers to stun, you know? Yeah. That's the whole idea of the taser thing. Of course, that can be pretty bad as well under many circumstances. People have died to those tasers. Yeah i don't i don't know what what it'll take we're a we're a very unique

species i often think if aliens are uh coming towards the planet earth that they probably double lock their spaceship doors and take a wide berth around this place we have a lot of issues people i think it always amazes me the compassion and the goodness in people, despite their environment and everything that's going on. However, the information that I have on this is something that I'll just tell people this. If you're going to use a firearm, go get some training. Get some training on restraint. Most importantly, look at your instructor. And if he or she, and I've had some good women instructors,

if he or she have testosterone or estrogen saturated bodies and are big macho people about this, walk out the door and find somebody else. Restraint, one of the biggest things, was firearms. However, I feel so sorry for people. They're so frustrated. This border situation is something that should be brought up more than this guy using a firearm to do what he thought is defending himself and his wife. This is a sad situation because look at this Daniel

Petty in New York. I did what he thought he had to do. And the fault wasn't with Daniel Petty in New York. Oh yeah. I did what he thought he had to do. And the fault wasn't with Daniel Petty. The fault was with the city of New York. Apparently this nearly was on, uh, uh, the top 50 high risk people that were homeless in New York. That's right.

Why didn't they do something about it? And it wasn't just that they knew that he was kind of crazy and homeless, but he'd actually physically attack people. He'd punched down a couple of women. He'd broken the nose of one woman who was 67, I think it was, and other bones in her face. He hit her pretty hard. And he had also sucker punched several people, including men, not just women.

But, I mean, he's literally attacking people. He comes on, and that, not just women, but I mean, he's literally attacking people. He comes on and, uh, that Marine, uh, restrained him and there were other people that were helping him as well, but all they see is a skin color, but they can't see the skin color of the guy who was helping the Marine was also black. Yeah. I think that's obviously, uh, what the, what the government propaganda organs, and that's all the mainstream news media. Thank God for a show like yours

where truth and discussion of these issues can get out. But what's the real issue? The real issue with the rancher is a border system that is absolutely open. I don't care what anybody says. I'm hearing stuff that Homeland Defense was actually using encrypted messaging to the Mexican government, some part of it, to direct people where border patrol agents and people weren't. And then you have this farce of 1500 troops being sent there. I don't even know if they took a gun along with any of them.

They're doing data entry work down there. Yeah. We've seen that type of thing as well with Governor Abbott. At one point in time, he sent a whole bunch of state police down to the border and they parked their car in a line. But even when they took the picture, you could say, this is just a little short little line here, you know, about a dozen cars. How's that going to close the border or do anything? It's like, you're going to, how many police cars does it take to run across the border

of Texas? It's just ridiculous. The little virtue signaling that they do. But what I was going to talk about, I know that, that we don't want to do anything that's going to affect his particular case. And we really don't know all the details you pointed out when you would have an officer shooting or something like that. There'd be, you'd gather all the information before you would even, you know, as a preliminary

to your investigation. So I'm not talking about that in general, but just if you have a situation where you've got somebody that's on your property or a group of people on your property. And you have reason to believe that, uh, you know, they might be dangerous or, you know, maybe in this particular case, you could see they were even carrying guns, I mean, what is the proper response to do with that? Uh, my belief is that, uh, I've written an essay on this called in defense. I'm turning into a book.

The basics of using a firearm get down to the word danger. If you have danger and you can't retreat any further, then you've usually got the use of the justifiable use of force force take the d away from danger you have anger if you've got uh an an attitude in your head i've actually been i've gotten an argument with a person in a restaurant and i asked a couple people next to me if they would escort me out and i basically whispered to them look look, I've got a firearm. I want to leave. And they did. I haven't got such a big ego that I'm going to get in an argument with somebody. If you get in an argument with somebody and you use a firearm, you've got a

problem usually as far as self-defense because you're part of encouraging the situation to escalate. There is in law enforcement, they have what they call a force continuum. The first point of the force, there's six points to it. The force continuum says, number one. Then it goes up the ladder to commands, to orders to people to sit down, calm down, whatever. It's voice communicate. It goes all the way up to number six, which is the use of deadly force. My belief is I'm a great believer in non-lethal force. I don't think this rancher had a choice with that matter. I don't know how many times people have been on his property,

but it gets to the point to where he did what he thought he had to do. And I won't judge that. I don't know the circumstances. However, when a policeman's operating out in the wild, which is most of the big cities, he gets into a situation to where this is why a lot of police officers get killed or injured, despite the fact that they have bulletproof vests, is that they have to react from number one,

sometimes all the way to six. Sometimes a person pulls a knife or pulls a weapon out, and they have to immediately go to pulling their weapon out. Most police departments tell the officers, keep your weapon holstered, your firearm holstered, until you have a deadly threat. There's a reaction time in that that causes them problems. But the long and short of it is, is if you feel you're in danger and you can't back up anymore or you can't retreat, then you usually have the right to use a firearm or any means of self-defense. If you have anger, if you're angry, getting into an argument or just playing half of a bad disposition, you know,

don't be carrying a firearm, number one, but certainly don't use it. You need to work under the cold calculating. I'm scared to death, and I'm trying to get away from this. And most places in your house, you have the right, if a person is coming after you, to use a firearm. And, of course, that's the other part of it as well. That's the danger aspect of it. If they're coming at you, you can stand your ground.

We've got a lot of states where that is encoded into the law. I'm sure that that's probably not the case in New York. There's probably no stand your ground or even stand your subway. You know, there's nothing there where you can protect yourself, I guess. But most states recognize that obvious right. And even if your state doesn't, you may choose to take your chances in court if you think that you're in enough danger where you can't retreat. But of course, if somebody is in your house and they're stealing stuff and they see you and they're running out with your television set under their arm, you can't shoot them in the back because there's no danger component there, right? So that's the other part of it.

If they are retreating, you don't have the right to use a weapon. That's right. Now, you know, going back to this where he fired the warning shot, you know, because I look at this and it's like with all the traffic that's on his border, you have to even wonder, you know, since they came out and they looked and they didn't find any body. Uh, and then later he found the body and call them back up. But, you know, you would have thought that they would have, since he called them, uh,

he, you know, um, and they came out and looked at it. I even have a questions as to whether or not that happened from him or if it happened from somebody else, I'm sure they'll do the ballistics and all the rest of this stuff. But if you're in a situation like that, you want to fire warning shots. Um, it seems to me like it might be a wiser thing to fire into the ground. Uh, if it's just going to be a warning shot, uh, because that way you can always show them, say, see, I'm missing a bullet and here it is right here on the ground. If you shoot it up in the air, uh, you don't really know where it's going to come down.

And I, I just recently saw a picture of somebody who said, look at this, you know, and they had a bullet that had come down and hit the roof of their car. It had not penetrated the car. So it wasn't shot at the car. It was probably one of these deals where it was shot up in the air and, you know, where it fell, uh, nobody knows, you know, that type of thing. Somebody found it that way. Well, I, I, again, I don't have enough information.

I really questioned what happened there. I know that if I had a bunch of uniformed people running around in my yard, I'd assume they're either law enforcement or military, but what's he's to think? I don't know all the circumstances of what happened. I do not believe in warning shots. I believe to retreat and people need to go get training on this. Go to a gun store. Get involved with organizations around. There's a lot of very, very competent, many of them are ex-military,

many of them are ex-law enforcement people that can teach to respring. However, I feel sorry for these people. The real issue down there, what is going on with the border the real issue in new york why isn't this great government this nanny state they're creating in new york why isn't that taking care of these people why is it left up to the citizens to be threatened injured or killed from people that they know are a risk. Why are these people coming across the border? Who knows?

I have my beliefs. I believe that they're doing a number of things. There's always a multifaceted answer to these things. I think, number one, any form of communism wants to remove or extreme socialism whatever you want to call it wants to remove your right of self-defense i attended a party one time with a bunch of eastern europeans uh it got to be a birthday party for an 87-year-old man. It was, as most Eastern Europeans, they were really drinking. And there were 21 of them there, and I was the only American they'd invited in because I was the neighbor and the guy liked me. And they told me the same thing, that you do not have the right to defense.

For instance, these people weren't from there, but in Romania, I had a guy tell me, if you even got into a fight defending yourself, you got arrested, no matter how good your cause was. And this is an issue. They want to make the state the only function that can dispense self-defense. They've got some idea of a perfect society that people don't do this stuff. But it's just unfortunate that people are overlooking the real issue. And that is, why is this guy, this rancher, got all these people running around in his yard in the middle of the night. I feel sorry for these people. That's right.

Yeah, you're absolutely right. They don't care. They didn't care about Jordan Neely when he was alive. You know, they identified him as a homeless person who was in crisis. They did nothing at all to help him. And, of course, the police did nothing at all to protect people from him, even though he had attacked at least. He had a long rap sheet of like 20 some odd incidents. And just in the article that I read,

they, they listed four of them that were pretty, you know, pretty major violent attacks that he had done on people. So the police didn't care to protect those, the community and the homeless organization didn't care to protect Jordan Neely, but now it's become a cause celeb that they can use to push a race war

or something else like that. That's, you know, for their political advantage. Now they can use it. Again, multifaceted. There's, there's the eliminate your right of self-defense. They're bringing race into this issue. These are, these are all issues that they should feel shame on themselves for not dealing with this Neely.

I don't know what kind of person he was, but apparently he was either on drugs or was mentally ill, regardless of if he's black or white or green like Kermit the Frog. The bottom line is the guy needed some help, and nobody was giving it to him. I agree. I agree. Yeah. I want to go back to that comment that you made in terms of, uh, you saying you, you don't like the idea of firing warning shots. And I think that's very wise. I mean, you know, you shoot a warning shot, you shoot it even into the ground where there's not the possibility. It's not going to hit somebody out there. They're going to think that they're being shot at perhaps, and they may shoot

for real at you. And so I agree with you. I don't think that's a, that's one of the reasons why, uh, you wrote this book and I didn't because you're a lot wiser about those types of things. And so I'm, I'm, I'm by far not, uh, the best expert on this thing. Uh, the, uh, CCW safe, uh, that's a insurance policy I have, I have in case I do get into an altercation that ends up using deadly force. They put some excellent articles out on this. But there's training available for every American. And as things start unraveling more, people are going to find they're going to need this. And I don't really think that Daniel Penny did anything wrong other than try to restrain this guy because he apparently was getting ready to do something to somebody on that subway train. Yeah, yeah, yeah, certainly sounded like it.

And he had done that type of thing before. So it seemed to me like after they go back and look at that case, they would say, well, that was really a credible threat based on his past experiences. But they've got a different agenda. One of the reasons I wanted to get you on is in terms of the overview of the helpful information that is here, you begin in the first volume of this. You talk about forming a neighborhood protection plan. And you talk about it so much, you actually created a little acronym, you know, the NPP, because you refer to it so much.

You've got chapter after chapter, certain types of situations. But then preceding it, you talk about civil unrest, which is what we're talking about with what is happening at the border. Civil unrest or catastrophic events. A lot of this, though though is really about preparation, preparation in your neighborhood, but then how to recognize these specific types of threats and how to deal with them.

But the whole first volume is really focused on setting up this neighborhood protection plan, isn't it? In fact, we had our monthly meeting of our council. We've got about 40 people in my neighborhood. I belong to two of these, but the one in my neighborhood, we had a council meeting last night, and one thing that was discussed is what we do if busloads of these people start getting dropped off in town here. I don't know what law enforcement and city fathers and the county supervisors are going to do as far as having a position on this. It seems like nobody wants to touch this thing. They want to call them refugees. They're refugees that were encouraged to come here. If people want to live in a society

that they have integration of these people, they must understand one thing. I've lived a lot of places in the world. Most of these cultures are alien to the basic American. And they won't know that until like the lady in Montana, who welcomed in an Afghan gentleman, I won't call him a gentleman, I guess, he raped her and beat the holy hell out of her. That's a situation that a lot of these people that are kumbaya, and we are the world are going to find the hard reality of it every one of these societies i've lived in people are brought up thinking differently i don't say it's right i don't say it's wrong i just know this is alien to a lot of the way to the lot of the thought of traditional americans So if you want these people in here and get ready to live, uh, with that type

of, and most of these countries were third world, I live in, get ready to live in a third world society because that's what they're bringing in here. Yes, absolutely. And by the way, I had a listener get on here as well. It should have, uh, forget about firing warning shots. Okay. Here's why this, uh, besides said he said never fire warning shots says listener john he said one must have reasonable belief that death or harm is imminent and i mean imminent you do not

fire warning shots i was a deputy sheriff in la county warning shots will get your behind in jail yeah that's right so uh yeah definitely not in the city anything i'm thinking about out in the woods i the reason i said that was because i think it's a shame that he can't you know uh say well it wasn't my bullet of course that'll be determined uh they'll look at the ballistics on the gun to determine whether he shot that guy or not but you know i think as i said before you fire warning shot, even if you're not in the city, uh, the, the people that are out there, uh, even if they weren't a threat before, they may think that they're under attack and they may start shooting at you for real. So that's absolutely

do not fire a warning shot. I'd say a prayer for this guy. Um, his outcome is going to be determined by a prosecutor. That's either trying to make a name for himself. And I think that prosecutor, if he's fair about things, he can look at his children when he goes home and say, like apparently most of the people in this country that are in leadership positions, corporate and government, and NGOs, non-government organizations, then his kids will pay the consequence. I once got into an elevator after a lawsuit, and I knew this attorney, and him and I and his paralegal were in the elevator and I said to him Mike you got kids don't you I knew he did and I I said to him I said you're gonna get him to be all lawyers because this was an absolutely bogus trumped up situation I want it

but the point being this is I I told him that he needs to send his kids all to law school make sure they all get through law school because i said they're going to need it after the actions you took and he was so red-faced and sheepish over this not that i'm right on everything but i was right on this situation and he knew big bogus Big, bogus situation. And that's the key thing. As we're talking about this and even the warning shot thing, it's important to have these discussions and to think through this stuff because if you don't and you're in the situation that this rancher was in, it's like, oh, I see a bunch of people out there in their uniform,

and they got guns. Let me grab my gun. And then I've got to scare them off, so I'll fire a warning shot. If he hasn't thought about that, if he hasn't thought through the concept, this is why it's important to have a book like yours. So that you think through these scenarios, you think what is a reasonable response and given scenarios and the kind of response that's going to get you put in jail or get you killed or get you arrested for, uh, you know, later on.

Um, that's why it's important to think through these things. And that's why I wanted to talk about that, you know, because you need to start thinking, I know he's out there. This situation is going to be very different from most of us because he's in such a dangerous area and he's so isolated. I don't know if he's got, uh, you know, any neighbors that are close by that he could rely on, but most people are not in that situation to be that isolated and in that dangerous of a position. But, you know, it would be good for anybody, wherever they are, to think through these different scenarios and especially this neighborhood protection plan and to think through how you're going to organize this, how you're going to communicate with other people. If you've

got some kind of a threat that you're in communication with them, that you guys have thought through different scenarios and that you're in touch with each other. One of the things that you mentioned in terms of that you cover in your book are a lot of wise considerations about when you put this together, what kind of personalities to look at. You know, you've got one chapter here is like leadership and psychopaths. So you've got to have a leader, but make sure it's not a psychopath that wants to take control because that's typically what the psychopaths want to do in a group situation, right?

If there were ever the ability to use science for one thing, I would think the best use would be that they'd be able to analyze a person's brain, whether it's infrared or not. They've done this and found psychopaths have a different, they have different neurons firing. They don't have any compassion. They can be either malignant or passive uh malignant or dangerous to people i i believe the vast majority of people running this country and running corporations are psychopaths these people are chameleons are able to get to the top they're able to make everybody

think that uh they are like them but they are far from it. They are devoid of compassion, the worst case of them. And this is something that people have to look at. But nobody seems to want to touch this border issue. Politicians, nobody seems to want to touch it except people like you. Here's the worst part of the thing. They're saying they do talk about the drugs coming into the country. They do talk about military-age males coming into the country.

I'll make this statement to your listeners. A, the guy that said don't fire the warning shot, your reader your listener is 100 correct you retreat until you can't retreat and uh if it's in your house uh i i don't believe in taking anybody's life for property uh there's nothing that uh that you can measure up to a person's life uh well i might make a couple exceptions to that but but the bottom line is that people don't want to touch this thing. I'm concerned about all these military-age males coming into

the country. That's right. Michael Vaughn, who's down in the Panama Darien Gap area, watching this whole thing unfold, has said there are 20,000-some Chinese came in, military-age people. He will not reveal how he knows this, but they're connected with their intelligence agencies and their military.

Where is this going? I don't know. You can conjure up wild theories and worry about this, but the long and short of it is Americans are armed, and that's a big thing. Go get training on restraint and on when to use the weapon. That's right. Yeah, think it through. Get some advice.

Great place to get some advice is Jack's book. Yeah, you're talking about the Chinese. I had not heard that report from Michael Yanai. I interviewed him, and, of course, he was talking about how they would carefully plan and find it. You have NGOs that are financing this and carefully planning which countries they're going to inject which nationals into, uh, because of the way that they have different border laws and some other countries actually do enforce

their border laws, unlike us. Uh, but you know, the massive number of Chinese that he reported. And then, of course, Breitbart reported last evening five migrants on the terror watch list were arrested near the Arizona border after this. And so, you know, people that they have not only encountered before, but that they've already put on the terror watch list are there. If you've got a massive number of people coming in who want to do harm to this country, the kind of sabotage that they could do to the infrastructure is absolutely incredible. And of course, uh, you know, our border is the one border in the world

that the U S military is absolutely unconcerned about, isn't it? I'm, I'm very, uh, I'm very concerned about these people coming in, uh, General Franco during the Spanish Civil War made a statement. He said, I've got five columns attacking a city. And he said, well, what do you mean? One of the reporters asked him, you've only got four here. The fifth one's already there. It's called the fifth column movement. And there's a possibility, I'm suspect, that this may be part of an overall plan. These young people that, and I have to tell you, honestly, when I was 19, 20 years old, the illusion of communism was in my mind.

I started thinking how wonderful it'd be until, like Winston Churchill said, when you're young, was was in my mind i started thinking how wonderful it'd be until like winston churchill said when you're young uh if you don't have passion you don't have a heart when you're older he said if you don't have uh uh if you don't have realism you don't you don't have a mind and that's pretty much what these young people don't have. They haven't had, they're devoid of experience and wisdom, a lot of them. Not all of them, but a lot of them. But the long and short of this thing is this, is there's a lot of people moving in here. If these young people that believe in communism think it's so good, they need to sit down and talk to the people like I talked to at that party.

21 people there. I was the only American there. And I remember at one point I asked them, well, what was it like to live under communism? And they were all like, they just all got stone-faced. Then there was a little bit of chit-chat in their foreign language between them a little bit of snickering and then one guy got serious and opened up and he started telling me the the stories about the realism he said the bottom line was it distort destroys a person's spirit communism destroys your hope. They had a saying in their country, the government, the government cheats us a little. We cheat them a lot because there's a lot more of them than the government. And I

listened to a woman who was, she had a PhD in chemistry. And she told me what they would go to work at seven in the morning at 11 o'clock, they would start drinking. And that was another thing. Why do you guys drink so much? Habit, habit from growing up in those countries. It the morning at 11 o'clock, they would start drinking. And that was another thing I asked, why do you guys drink so much? Habit, habit from growing up in those countries. It was the only escape they had. And I said, where did you work? And she said, I worked in a toilet paper manufacturing facility. And she said, we would go in at 11 o'clock, we'd start drinking, and we just wouldn't do anything the rest of the day. I said, well, how did that affect your work? Well, one time she said, we had the big mixer for toilet paper fiber. And of course, they don't bleach anything,

it was kind of gray looking. But she said, 11 o'clock, we loaded the thing up, and it was mixing. And then we started drinking, and the machine just kept going and going and going up and it was mixing and then we started drinking and the machine just kept going and going and going and it was so hard by the end of the day that she said they had to spend her next week cleaning the thing out so it destroys a lot of the work ethic of people and they need to talk to these people that have lived there if they think communism is so great of course it's never been done right is what they say but uh there is never a right thing for it yeah yeah it does uh does make people uh they find little ways to rebel against the authoritarianism right uh little

methods as you point out they can cheat the government a lot it makes people uh dishonest backstabbing it makes them lazy to oppress them that way. And that's the key thing. When everything is based on a lie, when everything is dishonest, even when it came to their news media, they weren't fooled by it. They said there's no truth in Pravda, which is what Pravda meant, and there's no news in Izvestia, which was what Izvestia meant. They knew that it was a a sham and i think we're starting to see that now in the u.s as we see the information is so controlled many people are becoming very and rightfully so cynical about what the mainstream media says but they continue to do it even though they know that it's not true and they know that

we know that it's not true they continue to do it And I think they do it because it's part of the power and intimidation to continue to do it. It's a really strange thing to see happening, but it is coming to us. And, and over and over again, we hear from people who have lived under that system. They can smell it a mile away. They can see it coming from a mile away and they're warning us over and over again about that. Aren't they? These same people told me exactly what you said.

This was 20 years ago. They said, what we had is coming here. We can see it every day. We see the same things that happen, the disinformation. The color green is red. The color white is yellow. Just absolute. People have to understand it's psychological operations i also

went to a school on this when i was through it was british version of american special forces and i had a week of psychological operations and i almost slept through the class but i do remember most of what they taught me and and i think 85% of these people do not want this woke and this agenda that they're pushing. But one thing people need to do, in addition to learning self-defense, get to know your neighbors, get together with your neighbors.

We have a radio network we've set up and we're trying to get to the point to where if we have an issue here that everybody is alerted in the neighborhood. What we do from that point on depends on the issue, but if it's something that we look at and we're in a very closed neighborhood, there's two entrances in and two entrances out 642 homes. Uh, but we still try to cooperate in, uh, knowing each other is the first thing. And we do this through block parties and that type of thing. But, uh,

and that's the key thing. that's right. That's the key thing is you got to have in order to have good defense and i think you know again this guy was not living in a neighborhood taking his situation as worst case scenario he was not living in a neighborhood uh where he could do something like that but most people are and and the good news about this is um i just replayed this last friday when we weren't here i replayed an interview that I had with a guy who had learned how to grow food, and he was using it as an outreach to get to know his neighbors and to share the gospel with them. And so if you have a situation like this and

you're living in a neighborhood, the good part about this is that you're actually building a neighborhood, which we seem to have lost for the most part. We have to not just push back and defense against the bad things that are out there, but we need to have a positive vision of how we're going to build the kind, you know, some of the things that you've been through, the experience that you've been through, wise things to think about in terms of trying to get this together, trying to build a community. And then if never, if you never have a situation where anything really bad happens,

you've got a community. That's the nice thing that comes out of this is that you learn to know your neighbors and you've got a community there, even if the worst case scenario doesn't happen. It's not to know your neighbors, and you've got a community there, even if the worst-case scenario doesn't happen. It's not only knowing your neighbors. It's the principle that has been around since we've been around. You see a lot of cities in the Middle East. They've got walls around them.

Through recorded history, walls, groups of people, why they banded together wasn't just for commerce, it was for defense against unlawful elements. And this is what people need to get to do in their neighborhood or their area. I mean, I would advocate to these people along the border that they start some type of radio network and come to each other's age not with guns blazing come over and see what the situation is yeah the the you need to support each other this is this is so evident over history these people formed by race by clan by religion uh by family uh bloodlines but they they usually ended up building a wall.

So you have to, around your neighborhood, get together, know people, and literally build a figurative wall, a defensive perimeter around your neighborhood. Mine is along Spree. It's very difficult to do that, but we've managed to figure out how to do it. People need to get together. They need to go to civildefensemanual.com and look at a lot of the information that I give out on there free. There's a lot of information on this. I have some commentary in a newsletter.

But the long and short of the thing is, if they don't think they're affected by this now, within the next decade, they will be affected by this. That's absolutely right. It's a situation of self-defense and protecting what you have. I had to laugh. I read an article about a large city down by the border where people were protesting to their police department that the migrants were camping out on their lawns. And the police refused to move them. And they had to sue the city to get the city to come in and remove these people from their properties. This is not right.

This is failure of government. There are good people that step up to bat but the majority of them are so involved in their career in politics and saying the politically correct thing that they they ignore the basics of what the citizenry need and they need help in this type of thing yeah you know sorry go ahead no i can't stop this inflow of people. Uh, I just do know this, that it's going to drag things down. You talk about CBDC. Yeah. There's no doubt in my mind. It's coming. Why is it coming? Because we have a paper tiger hustle cards, financial system that's run its course. There's not much more.

I expect bank closures. A lot of this is a grab by the big banks to absorb small banks. Why? Because it's easier to do that with instituted central digital currency if you've only got four or five computer systems instead of 50 or 60 of them and different people to talk to. So that type of thing is coming. Problems with crime

are going to start going through the roof. When I was on the police board, I actually brought an article to our director about i believe it was philadelphia where the review boards like i was on were so woke i i was on a board and i was known as somebody that supported law enforcement fairly uh if somebody was a bad apple they need to go i mean like a undersheriff told me they do huge amounts of filtering these people out but he said like a cross-section of people will get a bad apple once in a while uh in yeah belarus philadelphia what was happening the review boards were hammering these officers so hard for anything that they did

that they showed a picture of them. It was in the middle of winter. The cigarette smoke was rolling out the windows. They were sitting there. It was about 10 cars in front of, I believe it was a domestic dispute. And they sat there, afraid to go in confront somebody because you haven't used an alpha male male in that situation so what they did is wait until they heard something that was deadly like gunfire then they'd call the sweat swat team in and they'd kill

the guy that's the attitude police i feel at one time i wanted to be one. I feel terribly, terribly empathetic to these people. They have a horrible situation to deal with every day. I recently had a sergeant in a major city friend of mine. All of a sudden, he disappeared. I said, why didn't you come here? We could have got you in the Sheriff's Department. Too big, he said. He was in a major city, and he said his last shift, 12 to 8, he got off work, walks into a convenience store.

There's a guy in his underwear with a three foot long machete. And he said, I was tired and punchy. And he said, I just told the guy, you either drop that machete or I'm going to shoot you. And the guy dropped the machete, he arrested him. But he said, I'm not going to get dragged up on manslaughter charges for shooting somebody so overnight he left he went home told his wife we're out of here and they moved to a small town uh in in midwest city that uh it's like got one stoplight and that's that's the way he's going to spend the rest of his uh police career well i was i'm not even a police officer but that's what I was looking for as well.

So, yeah, the policing is very political. It's about policies, and it's political. It's all embedded in the name. That's a key part of it. As you were talking about walls and communities and things like that, I was thinking, you know, really throughout history, that was really pretty much the way that it was. People would band together. In many cases, they would build physical barriers to

protect themselves and a community and a city. It wasn't really until the middle of the 1800s where you started having the Industrial Revolution and the consolidation that came with the creation of the nation state that you really started getting away from these smaller concentrations, these smaller communities and a predominantly agrarian society, you know, that started disappearing. Prior to that, you had all these towns throughout Europe, for example, you know, where people would band together in these little cities. They were even city-states earlier on, but then they subsumed everything into a nation. And that's what we're seeing now. There's so many people that even in our states, there's so many people that government just doesn't seem to work anymore. And that's why

we need to reclaim at the neighborhood level, at the community level, some of the basic things that we want from government because government is unable or unwilling to provide those fundamental protections for us. We see that everywhere. So it really is important. And I can't recommend to people enough. CivilDefenseManual.com. You can go there. You can see the table of contents.

You can see some free content. And of course, one of the chapters that is there for free, where you take a look at, is this excellent chapter on water, to make sure that you've got a water supply, because that's the first thing you're going to lose. Jack is always sorry. Go ahead. You're getting me started like a broken record to put a supply of water in their house, whether it's bottles, uh, the dispenser bottles or a blue barrel,

and they need to get food and they need to get their life-sustaining medicines. They need to start doing that. Go to the store, pick up one can, stick it under the bed, get a box of bottles of water, stick it under the bed. Yeah, absolutely. It's always great talking to you, Jack. There's just so much wisdom in this, and a lot of it is Jack's, but he's brought in a lot of other people who have specialties and a lot of different things.

There's a lot of things, uh, in these, this two volume, um, uh, manuals. And you can find that at civil defense manual.com. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Jack. Always good talking to you. The Common Man. They created Common Core to dumb down our children. They created Common Past to track and control us.

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