The David Knight Show - INTERVIEW Catherine Austin Fitts — The Great Pushback Against Globalism

Episode Date: January 5, 2024

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All right, joining us now is Catherine Austin-Fitz. Always great to talk to Catherine, and I especially want to talk to her as we go into a new year. And she's also got, she's working very hard to try to help people get financial transaction freedom. We're going to talk about what that is. She's got a tour that's coming around Tennessee that's going to be happening there. Catherine, in case you don't know her, she's president of Solari Incorporated. And that's at Solari.com. That's S-O-L-A-R-I.com S S O L A R I.com. She is a former assistant secretary of housing and federal housing

commissioner at the U S department of housing and urban development. And the first Bush administration was the president of Hamilton securities group. And she has designed and closed over $25 billion worth of transactions and investments to date and has led portfolio and investment strategy for $300 billion of financial assets and liabilities. She understands the financial landscape and she is committed to liberty. So joining us now is Catherine Austin Fitz. Thank you for joining us. Thank you, David. And I'm

excited because I'm coming, I'm headed to Tennessee this month and I'm hoping when I come through, I'm spending more time on the Eastern side of the state these days. I'm going to come through and meet you and your team. I'd love to do that. Yeah. Love to do that. And you've got the tour that's coming up. And let's talk about that. But first, we'll lay out what financial transaction freedom is.

But let's talk about 2024 and also looking back at 2023. How do you see the top stories as you were, we're talking off air, you said you have your top stories for the year that you typically cover. What did you see as the top stories for 2023? So we are great believers in open source intelligence. It's Larry. And every week we pour into our databases, the top headlines. So we're constantly pouring, you know, if you do a search for the David Knight show, you'll find a bunch of stuff. And, and, you know, so we have a new media list and we're pouring in headlines from, you know, all different sources. We get people sending us links all over the world. And then weekly, I do a show called Money in Markets with Titus, and we pick out the top 20

stories and talk about those for that week. And then when we get to the quarter and the year, so every quarter, but the last one is the annual wrap up. We have a team of four people who synthesize all the stories and sit down and say, okay, what are the most, what are the most important stories that people, you know, individuals or families need to know to navigate this environment? What's important. And every time I come into one of those efforts, and it takes us about a month to build out to the top 20 stories for the quarter of the year, I think, well, I know what's going on. You know, I'm on top of it. I'm watching the news. And yet we go through the process and we realize after we've collected everything different,

you know, together, it's like, oh, you know, I didn't realize how big that was or how important. Anyway, this time we normally, our top story is on the financial coup d'etat or the going direct reset. This time, our top story was not only very different, but typically we put all the top 20 stories on one page. This story was so big and so long, it had to have its own page and the other 19 stories, the second page. And the title is 2023, the year of pushback. And what I didn't realize, David, until I pulled it all together in all the different categories, the extent of the pushback. It's almost like 2020, we get whacked. 2021, we realize something's fishy. 2022, we decide to take action and we start. 2023, you see the lawsuits filed. You see the,

you know, the different, you know, businesses started or initiatives started. And, you know, there are many different categories um but what happened is the pushback blossomed and then if you look at how it's blossoming and who's doing what what you realize is 2024 is going to be explosive it's beautiful it's beautiful that's going to be the case the question is it's going to be putting the plunger down well it's funny i said you know i said when i was talking about it because we do you know we do a recording and it's a mega recording with dr farrell that we'll publish next week with an analysis of all the 20 stories but i said this is like a big game of texas chicken where the establishment is trying to centralize and the

pushback is not only pushing back but saying you know something we're going to do our own race reset i call it the building wealth reset you're doing the going direct reset we're going to do the building wealth reset we're going to build wealth bottom up family wealth community wealth you know we've had it with you guys destroying and stealing everything so so you got these two cars going together at 60 miles an hour and you know the pushback team is looking much stronger than i ever realized until we did this so i came out of the process so enthusiastic i think it's going to be a great year our quote for the commentary for this year is uh is from a preacher down in texas he says he said, our situation is defined by extraordinary

opportunities brilliantly disguised as impossible situations. That's like the guy who the American general who was surrounded, he goes, that's good news. We can attack them in any direction, right? That's, I guess that's where we are right now. You know, they've done their best to surround us. Well, you know, that's the thing. I look at it and I get frustrated because it seems like there's so many people who don't know. There's a lot more people who don't care. And then even amongst the people who know and care, a lot of them don't really know what to do. And that's what I like about what you do, because you've got some action items to take.

And especially focusing on the money part part because that is such an important aspect of control. You know, it is central to the control. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So we just have subscribers,

you know, we had these hats called, you know, that they're orange hats and say, make cash great again. And people are sending us pictures from all over the world. Here's, you know,

you know, cash, make cash great again on top of Mount Kilimanjaro, you know, but they're sending us pictures, including of their kids because they're having their, you know, they're giving them to the kids. But we get stories from all over the world how people are using cash and sort of dialing back the systems. And it's so inspiring to hear all these stories because not only are they using cash, but they're beginning to engage with local businesses to talk about, okay, what are we going to do? How are we going to do? You know, they're talking to

their banks, they're talking to their credit unions, they're talking to local businesses, and it's almost like they're coming out of the trance and getting ready to transact their way back to freedom. And it's good. We did a great, I did a great interview in 2022 called Where to Stash Your Cash in 2022. And we're going to redo it this month, Where to Stash Your Cash in 2024. But it's sort of helping you build resiliency in your day-to-day life. And we also have a program called Building Wealth because, you know, as I said, we do need a reset, but we need a reset that rebuilds and builds family wealth. And family wealth and and family

wealth is the basis of community wealth that's right and um you know the problem with what's going on is we basically have an organized crime operation that's stealing and taking our wealth so that's got to be reversed so you've got to you know push back against them getting financial transaction control which and then they get that David, they will take everything, everything. They will take everything. So, you know,

it's slavery or freedom, but we also, when we say, no, we reject your complete control. We have to take responsibility bottom up to build the kind of culture and economy that, you know,

we want our kids and grandkids growing up. And that's absolutely true. I've said many times, I forget who said it, I said you can't win a culture war if you don't have a culture. We don't have a culture. We have just sat back and let them feed us a culture. Here's the thing, you can't run a financial system

just with law and enforcement. The only productive enforcement comes from a moral culture and institutions that will allow their people and encourage their people to be moral. You know, it's funny, I just did an interview today with a gold company here, and I'm in the Netherlands right now, and they're a wonderful company. I've only done maybe four or five transactions with them, but each time, totally clean, totally professional, high speed, no monkey business, no dirty tricks, everything clean as a whistle. Everybody now to the drivers you're great. It's like boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

And you think, you know, this is how it should work. But they have, if you look at who owns them and how they operate, they're highly moral. And, you know, it's culture that's going to drive that. I don't know if you saw it, but we did this wonderful panel with CHD Tennessee in Rogersville with Senator Nicely and Representative Halsey. Oh, I have to see that. Oh, it was a hoot. Can I tell you, it was so great.

First I did a speech, then we did the panel. If you watch it, just cut to the panel, because Halsey and Nicely are great. But Halsey gives this whole description of how the Constitution came out of a culture and a morality. And unless we protect and nurture and enforce that culture, nothing good can come from anything. And it's a it's very eloquent. I agree. You know, it is very important to have people that you trust and everything. That's why we work with Tony Arterburn at Wise Wolf Gold, and he's even set up a website, David Knight Gold. And we were just talking about yesterday how Costco, they sold.

What was that? One hundred million or three hundred million. I know what it was. Amazing amount not gold. And we were just talking about that yesterday, how Costco, they sold, what was that, 100 million or 300 million? I don't know what it was, amazing amount of gold. You know, but Walmart is getting in it now. But it's like you want to deal with people that you know and people who can buy something. I don't want Walmart knowing what I own. Exactly, exactly. Yeah, you can go down to Walmart and you can buy it with your J.P. Morgan card, you know, or your Make of America card. And that kind of defeats a lot of the purpose of that. You say forward to your financial transaction freedom. You have a quote from William Faulkner says we must be free, not because we claim freedom,

but because we practice it. I thought that was really profound. You know, we always talk about, well, you know, we've got the Constitution. We've got this and that, you know, well, you know, they had the Declaration of Independence, but they still had to fight the war, you know, to get that independence. You can't just declare your independence. You've got to make it happen. And that's really what this document is about, the financial transaction freedom. Tell us a little bit about that.

Tell us, first of all, give us your definition of that. So there are two big documents in this wrap-up. And the first one, interestingly enough, came from Tennessee. So there are two big documents in this wrap-up. And the first one, interestingly enough, came from Tennessee. I was meeting with a group of state legislators and some of the government officials. And there's a wonderful guy who runs the Revenue Department. He's a really smart guy. And he said, would you write a memo for me on financial transaction freedom? What is it?

What threatens it? What threatens it? And what can we do to protect it? And, you know, that was a harder job. I got my general counsel and I, and we wrote it. And so let's start with what is financial transaction freedom. Financial transaction freedom is the ability to trade, you know, to trade money for goods or to, you know, to barter and swap. And to do it in a way where, one, it's private. Two, you have multiple options. Three, it's liquid. And nobody's stopping or controlling you by controlling your financial transactions. So we all know the story of what happened to the Canadian truckers. That is financial transaction control. Now, what I believe, if you go to Solari

and you, down on the right, there's a panel that says videos on financial transaction freedoms and CBDCs. And it's a list of 80 short videos that show you what the central bankers are planning on doing, including asserting total control of your money. Oh, yeah. So that, one, they can make rules centrally and enforce them centrally with AI and software on all digital systems that control your money. So if they decide they want to raise taxes, they just take it out of your account. If they decide it'll help with inflation, they just freeze your account.

And they describe the deposits in your account as an expression of central bank liability. It's not your money, it's their money. That's number one. Number two, they want to program money. So if they don't want your money working more than five miles from your house, or they don't want you buying pizza because they think it's not good for you, then your money won't buy

pizza. Your digital cards and digital transactions and bank transactions won't work if you're more than five miles from your home. So it's called programmability. Anyway, so if you look at the first couple videos, there's also one of the great videos there is a video from one of the presidents of one of the 12 Fed banks saying, I understand why China wants CBDCs,

but why would Americans ever let this happen? You know, I mean, because you're talking about a slavery system. If they get financial transaction control and control of the food supply, which is part of what they're up to. And if you look at some of our, our wrap ups, we've written a lot about that recently as well, because it's, you know, it's part of the same play. Um, if they get financial transaction control, David, and they can control your bank account You know and an institute taxation without representation then they can dictate anything they can dictate what? Drugs you're gonna take they can dictate whether or not you've got to take injections

They can dictate where your kids go to school. They can dictate that your shit kids can't live with you anymore They've got to come to you know, XYZ government boarding school, whatever. whatever that's right you're talking about a slavery system oh yeah and uh one of the the fourth video in the stack is richard warner the top central bank expert in the world in my opinion academic expert uh explaining that one of the top central bank's uh heads in europe told him it's a chip they're planning on putting in our hands so and we've seen discussions at the world Economic Forum with the head of Nokia and others talking about how we're going to all be chipped. Yeah. For convenience, you know, for convenience.

And it really is. For their convenience. Yeah, yeah. I played the video over and over again that was produced in Ukraine. And they said, well, you know, after we get past this war and we're victorious, 2030 is just going to be great. You know, when you, any interaction that you have with other people, but especially all the different things that you're required to do with government, we'll just make that so convenient because we'll have a CBDC and we'll have your, everything that you have

will be on your phone and so forth. And it's like, wow, this is totally comprehensive. But as you pointed out, they're going to be able with the programmability, make your money invalid. If you're not in the correct area, it's all about enslaving and imprisoning us, you know, and making sure we don't travel. Yeah.

Right. So when the world economic forum says it's 2030 and you have no assets, the question is, how do they strip you of all your assets? How do they strip you of your property rights? How do they strip you of your assets? And the way you do it is if you can get total financial transaction control, then you can strip people of all their assets. You just turn off their money. That's right. Yeah. We already

saw a little bit of this, you know, you mentioned the freedom convoy. That was a big wake up for everybody because now it's no longer a conspiracy theory. It's a conspiracy reality. They've already done it. And, uh. And then we saw, you know, on January the 6th, we saw Bank of America, you know, creating a Stasi list of, here's all the people that had financial transactions within this area on January the 6th. And, oh, no, by the way, here's our records of all the people who used our credit card to buy guns. You want to put those together, FBI? So we know how they're going to use this. It's very sinister. And when you look at it, it's almost as if, you know, the Bank of America was asking them, would you like

us to confiscate their money and lock up their accounts? Right. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it truly is amazing. So, you know, when we look at it, there's some other things on it as well. I'm looking at the memo and there's a downloadable PDF that you you have at um salari.com about coming to salari it just says financial transaction freedom memo and we have it in pdf and you can download we sell hard copies for free or we put it in the wrap-up you can buy that but uh if you're a subscriber but just download it for free print it out make as many copies as you want spread it everywhere and and so you you define what you just define what financial freedom is you're going to have multiple different ways outside of their system a lot of

different options and things like that privacy um and uh no surveillance and that type of thing but then you also have action items because i've talked for the longest time about cbd go ahead tell us about the action items the next step well to action items, you have to understand what threatens financial transaction freedom is. It's not just central bank controls and CBDCs and digital IDs. It's also power outages. Okay. It's cybersecurity attacks. There are all sorts of other things.

You know, when the cyclones hit in New Zealand, the governor of the central bank there gave a press conference afterwards. And he said, thank God for cash. If we hadn't had cash, we would have been, and I, you know, I never, I'll turn to John Titus that week, and I said, I guess he didn't get the memo. But remember when there was that huge power outage in Kentucky? Oh, yeah.

For weeks. Yeah. If you didn't have cash, you were in real trouble. Okay, so there are multiple things that can compromise, because what we're talking about doing is not allowing digital systems to get control. Yes. And that's why we always say to people, the first thing you can do is to roll back digital systems. Stop being so dependent on digital systems.

You want to have analog alternatives, and you want to be resilient in the face of real hiccups with digital systems, whether it's a power outage, whether it's government sanctions, whether it's central bank intervention, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. But, you know, build that resiliency into your life. There are many ways you can do it. So the first thing we talk about is, you know, is using cash and starting to engage with local businesses, particularly your farmers and your farmer markets, fresh food, because the most important thing you need to do in this environment is you need a good, strong, clear brain and healthy body. And that starts with good, healthy, fresh food.

And as we know, there's terrible deterioration in the quality of the food. So, you know, line up your food locally. The second thing you can do is bring transparency. We have a wonderful post. We link to it from that memo called, I want to stop CBDCs. What can I do? And it lists 11 things you can do. But one of the things you can do is tell your family and friends. So we have these 11, or we have a link to these CBDC shorts and they're one minute you know the first three are one minute each and the fourth one is two and a half minutes really short and in those three one minute videos they will scare you to death and i defy anybody to think they don't need

to take action once they see those you know so you don't need to read a lot of books or watch a lot of long videos we you know in in three one minute, we can communicate to you why you got to do something about this. That's great. Another thing people can do that is exceptionally important is talk to your financial service providers. Talk to your CPA. Talk to your attorney. Talk to your bank. Talk to all these people and get them

realizing that they've got to push back. If the state, if the state banking associations start to push back and protect people from transaction control, you know, and, and compromise of their financial transaction freedom, they can have a huge impact. And they should do that because if you look at what the central bankers are up to, they intend to consolidate the banking system. They're rolling out, the Fed is rolling out the fast payment system. We saw what they did to a group of banks last week. They're going to consolidate the banking system, which is going to be terrible for the small business economy and terrible bottom up for the health of the economy and family wealth. So get your banks, get your investment advisors, So, you know, get your banks, get your investment

advisors, get your CPAs, get your lawyers, get all your financial professionals lined up and educated, you know, bring transparency and get them on board. The next thing you need to do is there are, you know, there are 10 plus states in this country that have legislative agendas that are filing and knocking through bills that are going to protect the financial transaction freedom of the people in those states. You know, you and I are in Tennessee, and Tennessee is absolutely leading the way. It's one of those states, and they're working on, you know, sovereign payment systems or banks. They're working on bullion depositories in a way for citizens to store their gold and silver, but transact their gold and silver within the state in a way that protects

absolutely protects financial transaction freedom and voting gold and silver to be legal tender. So we can't get locked into a CBDC system where we don't have legal tender unless we use CBDCs. They've already taken, in many states in Tennessee, the sales tax off. Part of that legal tender bill is to make sure gold and silver are protected from capital gains tax. They're doing moves to protect and build analog payment systems so, again, that you can have your digital systems shut down or controlled from out of state.

They are now bringing nullification laws. I'm sure you've talked about that. Changing the definition of money so it can't be, you know, CBDCs can't be included in the definition of money. Nullification bills, I mentioned nullification already. Nullification bills to make sure that constitutional, any law that's unconstitutional under both the federal constitution or the state constitution is included. And then. Yeah, let me interject there last time i talked to a senator nicely we're talking about this pistol brace thing and he goes oh we've already got taken care of

you know we pass this nullification thing saying that if the federal law conflicts with uh the tennessee law and he said and then we passed a um they can't do it they can't enforce it and he said and then we passed a law to make pistol braces legal. So they're on top of it. They really, really are on top of it. They are on top of it. You're talking about educating the banks and your CPA and anybody that you deal with financially. And it's a really, the last time I talked to him, he was saying it was difficult to get the local banks to understand that a state bank was going to help them. Like it did in North Dakota, where they have a lot more local local banks than any other state and they have worked to help them and he

goes but they you talk about a state bank and they think it's some kind of competition so he came up with the idea of calling it a tennessee reserve system and he said then they understand and he's brilliant at that isn't he yeah he i think senator nicely you know our our our team at saleri our number one goal this year is to support financial transaction freedom because we want to be free yeah and if we don't get financial transaction freedom we won't be free and and for us to be free we need everybody to be free and i look around and i say who are the most astute politicians who can understand and move this kind of you know build this infrastructure you know one bill at a time because it's going to take many many bills and quite an education yeah and i think

senator nicely is the most effective politician i have ever known or dealt with. Washington, state politicians, you know, global here and here. I've never met a more effective politician in my life. Oh, I agree. I absolutely agree. Yeah. And so, you know, we're talking about this. You've got to see this panel on Rogerville because he also happens to be one of the funniest people alive. Yeah, he's got a great sense of humor.

At one point he was talking about his, you know, I said to him, Senator Nicely, you know, I hold you personally responsible for the traffic problems in Tennessee, because for the last 10 to 12 years, you keep lowering taxes. And, and he said, yeah, my wife says, you know, he's married to a Texan. He says, my wife says, if we lower taxes anymore, he said, everybody's going to move in here. And it's my fault that we have all these yankees and and uh and californians moved in but i tell my wife this is you gotta watch it it's so funny he says i tell my wife he said you know i don't mind the yankees moving in because one thing we know about yankees they will fight and we learned that the hard way he really does know his history uh that's the other thing that's

very interesting about serena nicely but you know you were talking about the pushbacks and one of the things that you mentioned when you were talking about pushbacks was and you touched on it just now the definition of money and ucc's and uh you mentioned that south carolina had done that i know that south Carolina did it in Florida. And so how many have changed the definition of money to say it's not going to be CBDC, but it's going to be, but we are going to allow this and that as a definition. Yeah. I don't know how many, I know Florida has done it. I know South Carolina has done it. We have a team that's trying to collect and identify who who has done all you know in 15

different legislative categories who has done what in terms of a state bank a sovereign billion depository whatever so as we as we do that we find more states um i will say this one of the things i would like to have more capacity in is understanding how to protect states through the UCC, because a lot of the monkey business happens through the UCC, the Uniform Commercial Code. So if there are UCC attorneys out there who are willing to help, please, you know, this is a call for help. Because the UCC is, you know, it's state by state, but it's highly complicated, as you know it's it's it's state by state but it's highly complicated as you know david and i think you know a lot of the a lot of the games are happening inside the ucc well you know i remember when i first heard about that in conjunction with the cbdc it was christine ohm in south dakota who

said you know they this thing came across and we vetoed it but you know be aware that there's more than 20 some odd states that have had that pushed out. The next thing I saw was that DeSantis went the opposite direction. What they were pushing out was legislation to say that CBDCs would have to be accepted as money. DeSantis went the other way and said they will not be accepted as money, but we will accept Bitcoin and cash and all the rest of this stuff that we currently have.

And so now South Carolina has done that as well. That that's good news there's so many different ways that we can push back on this and again point back you know there's a lot of pushback lawsuits against uh the companies because of of damage and things like that it is a constant struggle and and it really is hard to try to keep uh to get a sense of whether people are waking up i get to the point where i just thought nobody's ever going to wake up in 2020. A tremendous number of people are waking up. If you look at the pushback, I'll tell you one of the greatest pushback sort of clusters is the state AGs and treasurers.

The treasurers are pushing back like crazy against ESG. We just had the treasurer of Utah write a letter to the SEC to try and stop or delay the proposed comment rule ending on natural asset companies, which is another, you know, talk about real trouble coming anyway. But the pushback by the state AGs, you know, so Missouri versus Biden is a great example of litigation filed by Louisiana and Missouri. You know, but the state AGs and the treasurers are on the move and they're teaming up. So if you look at the filing of the Utah treasurer at the SEC, his letter was signed by himself and 23 other treasurers. So, you know, they're teaming up groups of ags and groups of treasurers that

larry fink and blackrock have had to roll back their whole esg initiative because so many treasurers have pulled money or i think one now i think tennessee is sued i don't know i don't know if it's the treasurer somebody in tennessee has sued the i think it's the i think it's committee the attorney general it could be the AG. He said it is fraudulent because you're telling people that they're making an investment, so therefore you're going to be trying to do things that are exercise care, fiduciary care, the financial side. But you're completely ignoring the financial side, and you've got your own agenda over here. Well, but there's something else.

BlackRock is making huge fees off the state pension funds. And if you look at the hypocrisy of what Larry Fink is saying, it's extraordinary. I did a wrap-up in 2019 called, Can ESG Turn the Red Button Green? And basically what I was describing was all the hypocrisy in the system. Because they're using it to enforce central control as opposed to enforce real standards that improve, in my opinion, the governance of society. So Larry Fink has gotten called out on his hypocrisy. That's great that it's the treasurers who are coming out and saying, we're going to move our investments away from them, putting financial pressure on them.

And then you got some attorney generals, attorneys general who are saying well this is fraudulent and and we're going to sue them because they've told people that their company is about this but it's actually about this other thing well here's the thing at the very heart of the pushback in all these different forms what you're seeing is people on the ground who want to be productive you know people want to go to work and do a good job without having to you know share bathrooms with the other sex yeah and get into that conversation they want to go back without you know they want to be free to say something without being fired for you know offending hate crime all this stuff is destroying productivity and they've had it so so what they're saying is we you know so if i'm a treasurer i'm looking across the state

and saying the guys in washington wall street and basel switzerland are using climate change as a ruse to shut down our businesses, take control of our markets and steal our money. Yes. Why should I finance them doing that? Yes. Because they're not doing what they say they're doing. They're just using this to assert central control. You know, just like during the pandemic, you shut down 10 small businesses, you leave Costco in the same shopping mall open. And, you know, on the theory that the magic virus only operates in small business but it doesn't operate in large publicly traded stocks and you scarf and steal the market share from the small businesses had nothing to do with health it had to do with

shifting significant market share out of locally owned and controlled businesses into publicly traded stocks you know and in a way that made larry Fink a lot of money. Okay. And it's, it's a scam. Yeah. Yeah. That, that made me so angry when that was happening because I had lived that, uh, with my wife and I, we had a, uh, video store business back in the early nineties. And we had a hurricane that came through and took power out for several days. And we finally got it back in one area. We opened up that store and then the police came by and said you got to shut your store down and i said well walmart is open right across the store right across the street you know you got to shut your your uh business down because you're you're attracting people to come out and drive

around they shouldn't be out driving around now and it's like well who you'd make that decision number one and number two you're telling me essentially what trump said uh you're not essential you know walmart is essential but you close down because no they want yeah you know basically it's the big guys stealing market share from the little guys that's right it's very simple that's right it's a steal it's called a taking yes yes and and it's uh you know hurting main street in order to help wall street the big companies that are that are essential and so when i saw that i'd already lived that lived that for just a couple of days. And it made me so angry to see that they were going to be putting people out of business

who had poured their sweat and energy and capital into this and worked it for years just to be told that they're non-essential. I still get angry when I think about that. But talk about some of the other things. But here's what happened in 2023 in 2021 people agreed to play along with that or 2020 because they thought the government had a legitimate reason once you understand that this is just a mafia trying to steal your business that's when you say, two people can play this game. So you, the municipality, you're going to shut me down? Great. I'm going to audit your books.

I'm going to get all your financial disclosure and I'm going to dig into your money and I'm going to dig into the money of everybody on the city council. By the time I'm through, y'all are going to be gone. So we have a wonderful woman who works for us in Tennessee. She was in Knoxville. She tried to get the mask mandate canceled and couldn't do it. And so she went in and figured out the committee, you know, in, in government that, that was deciding this, she figured out how they were formed and she got the committee canceled and they canceled, you know, there was no mask mandate because the committee that was supposed to implement it was gone that's great and that's what really needs to happen because and that's the thing that concerns me is that you know we're not in so many cases we have seen people who are

just oh i'm so glad that this isn't happening again they realize it was a fraud they don't want to play along with it but now that it's ended as you point out everybody just wants to get on with their life right instead of going back and rooting this out. They want to be productive. They want to build family wealth. And that's why you have to give them ways of pushing back that they can push back in a way that helps them build family wealth. So what we're saying is make yourself more resilient. Make yourself more successful.

Lower your dependency. Every time you pull money and market share out of the companies that are doing this and support the politicians who are doing this, you make yourself more powerful, you make yourself stronger, and they get weaker. So it's like having a tapeworm. What we're saying is detox the tapeworm to make yourself stronger. And anytime you can do anything that lowers your dependency on their systems, like using cash. I mean, using cash is really, you know, can save you a lot of money. I mean, we've proven again and again, if people use cash, they spend less, they're more careful, they think through, you know, their purchase decisions. But you

can also build up incredibly great relationships with your local business, you know, in the process of transacting with them. It's a much more intimate way of transacting. Yeah. And, and you find all sorts of opportunities when that conversation gets going. So, so people are busy and this is an exhausting environment in many ways because of the compliance and rules and people don't like to fight and add friction because that doesn't get them anywhere. A lot of times, you know, they see a lot of people fighting in ways that aren't effective. They don't want to be a part of that. So you need to give them ways of pushing back,

which help to build their strength and power. And well, I go back. The most important one is they have to be healthy. And that means, you know, if I encourage anyone to invest time in building wealth, step one is getting the knowledge you need to take responsibility for your own health and making sure you're getting clean water and nutritious food and you are not get poisoned you know because we are in the middle particularly in america the great poisoning oh yeah and people are getting sick from being poisoned and they need to understand what the process is and how to protect themselves and their family and if if people are really good at protecting themselves from the great poison david they have 10 times more energy that's right so step number one is get yourself off the poison treadmill and when you look at it the um you know it's going to cost you more to get this other food right but not if you compare that to what's going to happen if you get sick and you got to engage with the health care system right that just blows away you can buy organic food all day forever before you

have your first hospital bill they're gonna really fleece you talk about destroying you financially that's what happens with the hospital system so if you can stay out of that and clean food you're way ahead of the game even financially not alone in terms of enjoying the health absolutely that our annual wrap-up last year was called pharma, and it was on synthetic food and lab-grown meat. And it was the hardest thing I've ever had to read. We hired this wonderful Dutch journalist, Elsevang Hamlin, to write it, and she did an incredible job. And when she came back with it, it's the first time in my life I couldn't read a draft the whole way through because it's so evil. If you see the hundreds of billions of dollars, they're throwing at making $30 hamburgers that are, you know,

created with 3D printing. It's so horrible. You can't imagine that they want anybody to eat this. You know, and nobody's going to eat it without financial transaction control because they're going to mandate the only food you're allowed to buy are sort of bugs and synthetic meat yeah so so anyway we published it and i thought david it would be the least popular wrap-up that we ever published because it's so horrible and gruesome we published it and it's brilliant it really warrants you about what

these guys are up to and why you can't allow financial transaction to control happen because this is the food they're going to try and feed you. And anyway, we published it and it was hugely popular and successful because all the fresh food people used it to market. Yeah. You know, all the people in the farmer's market are like, you know, here's what they're going to do if you don't support us. And I had one subscriber write in this one like you know here's what they're going to do if you don't support us and i had one subscriber writing this one you know we get these great emails and they said you know i have tried and tried and tried to get my husband to buy from the local farmers and farmers market and really develop our fresh food supply locally and he says it's too hard work and it's too much money. I gave him pharma food. He said, I am all in.

Well, that's a shame. You know, it's great that you got that. It was really a shame. After we moved here, we finally found a local farm that was doing clean local food and everything. And, you know, we could get raw milk as a membership club and things like that. Oh, wonderful. And we only did that for a couple of months. And then they said, we've just got to close. We can't keep it going.

There's not enough demand. And that's the key thing. It really, it was so sad. So now we're looking again, you know, but it is so sad to see how difficult it is for them to maintain that. And, but how important it is. I don't know if Edible Communities has a magazine for your area. Look at the Edible Communities. It's a franchise of

local food magazines all over the country. And I thought I knew every fresh food farmer in my area until I got the Edible Communities magazine for Memphis. And I found so many great sources after I got it. So I would check that out. And of course, check out the Western Price Club where you are, because there are Western Price chapters all over the world. And they have the greatest networks into knowing what the great food is in your area. And they're the ones who've led the campaign on raw milk. And raw milk is one of the great success stories because we're now up to 46 states where there is a pathway to buying raw milk. And that is extraordinary.

And it's been the Western price guys who really did that. Oh, that's excellent. Yeah, and of course, the other part of this, and Thomas Massey has been involved in this, and I've reported on it. He is my hero. Yeah, I've talked about it. Thomas Massey was hero of the week three times on the Salary Report in 2023. Yeah, he's by far and away the best U.S. congressman that's out there.

Absolutely, hands down. But he's focused on this whole thing about the fact, and a particular Amish farmer, as a matter of fact, there's an update that just happened. This guy that's been harassed by the USDA because he wants to butcher the meat there on the farm and do it cleanly. I can't remember the guy's name, but I'm sure you know the case. Yeah, I know. do it cleanly i'm sure i can't remember the guy's name but i'm sure you you know the case yeah and they've come back and hit them again because it's very important for them that you've got to go to their centrally controlled meat processing water houses yeah exactly right and that's and it's much safer a good a good local operation on the farm is much safer so uh you know so massey has the uh what's the name of his the primact yes So we've been supporting for several years trying to get the Primact passed.

And, you know, it's funny. One of the things I do, you know, it started with Ron Paul, but then it went to Massey. Whenever I'm depressed, you know, I'm just thinking, oh, God, it's, you know, I'm fighting with, I call the force to nothing. I'm fighting with the nothing. You know, I have to do something to make myself feel good, and I'll send a donation to Massey. It's like, okay, I'll put fuel in the leader's pocket, and I'll feel better.

He's a good guy. He's a good guy, and he stands like Ron Paul. He stands alone if he has to. Yeah, what is it in the water in Kentucky that we get that? Because Ron Paul's in Kentucky, Massey's in Kentucky. Yeah, he definitely stood up, and he stood up against that trillions of dollars that Trump wanted to put in. Trump wanted to get him out, but he didn't get him out, so that's good. I think the people know he's out.

My favorite, if you go to Salarian and do a search for Massey, you'll pull this up. One of the heroes of the week was massey absolutely slaughtering that idiot from texas uh uh you know not many idiots come from texas but this one is the secretary of transportation on electric cars because massey's an mit engineer yes you know and he knows the whole the whole you know electric cars are mathematically entered you know, the math of the energy, the math of the environment, the math of the economics. They're absolutely insane. They make no sense whatsoever. Yeah.

It only makes sense in the scientific term if your degree is in political science. And that's what he also did to John Kerr. If you want total control. So if you want to be able to turn off people's car so if i you i lock you down you can't go more five miles from your home your car will turn off and it won't work more than five miles from your home yeah i know exactly what it's about digital concentration camps yes right right that's true yeah yeah he had uh he had john carry on and he was debating john care any point he says so you got a science degree.

Well, he goes political science, right? That's what it was. John Kerry's got a political science degree because there isn't any, you know, there isn't any science between these. I call them MacGuffins, which is what Hitchcock called them. You know, it doesn't really matter what it is. It could be the Maltese Falcon or be something else. But it's whatever motivates the people to do that. So it could be the virus or it could be the climate, but they've always got the same solution.

Yeah. Which is that you've got to get an ID and you've got to put them in charge and beg them permission for everything. But it doesn't matter what the MacGuffin is. It's interchangeable. Just whatever you use to motivate the people. It seems like it always comes back. So when I became Assistant Secretary of Housing, the Secretary wanted to do a big housing bill.

You know, he wanted a big accomplishment. to do a big housing bill you know he he wanted a big accomplishment he wanted a big housing bill so the guy the goal was how do we get the democrats on board for and we got jim rousey around fannie mae i'm sorry jim rousey ran the enterprise foundation and david maxwell around fannie mae they had done a big commission on housing that proposed a lot of decentralization they were both big democrats so we got david and jim to come in wonderful men and and kemp the secretary is trying to persuade him into a new housing bill and a lot of what kemp was proposing was more centralization and um and david and jim were you know they're wonderful people, very big hearts.

And they were saying, well, you know, Jack, you're a Republican. Republicans believe in decentralization. And we propose a lot of decentralization. And, you know, so we think you should, you know, you would like what we're proposing. And he had these two little assistants from the Heritage Foundation who were truly frightening. And one of them said, so Jack is proposing more centralization. The Democrats are proposing decentralization,

which is supposed to be the opposite of their ideologies. So they said, you know, don't you want to decentralize? Why would you want to centralize? And one of the special assistants bursted out. says yeah but we're here now that's it that's it we're here now yeah it's like that's why they never change bring the blood to the empire headquarters bring the blood to the empire more extraction more extraction yeah that's why i had to leave washington that's why i moved to tennessee was like, you know, you can't decentralize from Washington. That's right.

That's right. Right. You've got to nullify it. You've got to have some things at the local level. So you've talked about some of these things. Sovereign state bank. I'm looking at your list here. Actions that can be taken to secure financial freedom.

And so you start out with state and local government, but then you talk about having some local organizations to try to help this. Maybe because you don't want to all be in, you can't get too much done on your own. So you've got three different sections. There's state and local. You've got what you can do with small associations and then things that you can do as an individual. It's a great. Right.

And what you can do as an investor. I do want to mention the second memo in the document in the financial, freedom wrap-up is our sovereign state bank memo by Richard Werner. Outstanding. And explains to you why you do not want to let the central bankers consolidate the small banks. You do not want that to happen. And the pandemic was hard on the small banks. And we want a strong small banking and it explains why the health of the economy and the small business economy in main street depend on lots of healthy small banks and

so one of the most important things and this is what frank understands and i don't think that the banking associations understand yet they don't understand what a threat cbdc and digital id and fast payment systems are. And, you know, I want to stress again, what we're trying to get is financial transaction freedom. CBDCs is not the only problem. Fast payment systems and what they can do with credit cards and banking accounts without CBDCs, you know, that kind of control is a real problem. It's a real problem now, so as we saw with the Tennessee truckers.

So anyway, so this memo on sovereign state banks is very, very good and important, and it helps you understand why you want the state to be able to transact without the feds or the central banks being able to shut them down and to afford that protection to the local banks and the local citizens. You want financial liquidity that the feds can't kill. That's right. That's right. And right now we have, as you're well aware,

we look at the situation and how the deficit has exploded. I talked about that earlier. We were at only about $10 trillion about 15 years ago. Now it's exploded up to 34 trillion dollars but i'm sure that's just the tip of the iceberg as i point out there's all these other things in terms of obligations that the federal government has and so there's this massive system that is really not sustainable and corrupt and so what happens as we start to see it's also another thing that's happened is the deficit is going up. And as we're using the dollar as a weapon, fewer and fewer people are using abroad or getting off of the dollar as a reserve currency.

What are going to be the implications if that continues and accelerates? What's going to be the implications? Higher prices. Higher prices. Higher prices. So as the squeeze comes on, the value, you know, basically the reason everybody's been going along with the crime is that, you know, the criminals have been sharing, you know, crumbs with us. Yeah. So if you talk to a state legislator, why can't we establish, you know, so Tennessee's considering rejecting federal education aid.

You know, there's an addiction to the money that's right so so the central banks print money and use that money to buy us even though that drives up inflation so at the end of the day we don't end up better off but you know we have this addiction to getting federal money so we're on the dole and and and as we stay on the dole our economies get weaker and weaker and weaker you know and we become more and more dependent on that dole so so there is a financial addiction going on to central bank printed money and that is going to the question is when is the pain great enough that we're willing to walk away from that money. Now, as they share less and less, you know, crumbs and prices go up and up from this sort of inflation game, you know, when

are people going to realize we are better off creating the conditions of sovereignty, rejecting that money? And what I will tell you, David, is, you know, in the 90s at Hamilton Securities, I did a lot of simulation of what we could do if we took government money and we re-engineered it to optimize economic health as opposed to central control yeah that's right and if you know it's going to be a rough transition because we've delayed it for so long but if we go through that transition we can build a much more moral and productive society. Oh,

I agree. Yeah. Yeah. That's always been the case. And it's been difficult. I've, I've had this frustrating thing. I feel like I'm banging my head against the wall.

Uh, when I talk to people about what happened in 2020, they say, well, Trump didn't do it. And I said, no, you understand it's the money,

right? That's how they get every, that's how they get around the 10th amendment. They bribe people. They get you addicted to the money and then they pull it back and say, well, now I'm going to blackmail you. If we look at what happened with Trump, you know, he's out there, his administration, they're giving a 20% bonus. If you identify somebody as COVID, they're giving you a bonus to diagnose them, $13,000,

$39,000. You put them on ventilator, 20% on everything that you do. And then when Biden comes in, and now that they've gotten used to this money, he says, well, if you don't get everybody in the now that they've gotten used to this money, he says, well, if you don't get everybody in the hospital vaccinated, I'm going to not give you any Medicare or Medicaid. I'm going to shut everything off. That's the way it always works.

Going back into the 90s. But I'm going to be tough on Trump because he swung $10 billion of taxpayers money into a military program that completely bypassed all the safety things, you know that are implicit in health care law to poison millions of americans that's right so that's right yeah he's the he's the poisoner in chief absolutely no doubt about it exactly it was a military operation that's what i was a military operation and he put 10 billion he put 10 billion dollars behind it and he appointed to run it a man who was a brain machine interface expert from GlaxoSmithKline.

Yeah. And they've been practicing this since two months before 9-11. They've had their annual germ game thing, and it's coming from DARPA. So, of course, they're going to have the warp speed thing be a military thing. Yeah, it's really difficult to get people to understand that. And sometimes I explain, when we were doing homeschooling of our kids, we're now grown. I know that there were a lot of people in the homeschool facility community that wanted to say, well, let's have let's let's fight to get our kids in into the sports programs and band programs and things like that. And I said, you know, there's going to be strings attached to all that money and all those benefits that you're fighting for.

They're going to use that to blackmail you. And that's exactly what they do. They get around the 10th amendment by offering people money, getting them addicted to the money and then say, okay, now put the boys in the girl's bathroom or we're going to take the money away. It always works out that way.

Really? So one of my favorite quotes is from Franklin Sanders. Who's that wonderful. I don't know if you've had Franklin on these wonderful precious metals dealer and pastor in Middle Tennessee. He always says, all government money comes with a sock in the jaw. That's a good way to put it. Well, tell us a little bit about the tour, because we're about out of time.

It's going to be, you're going to have several events in different places. So I'm coming down to Tennessee. I should be there by the 23rd, And then I'm heading over to middle Tennessee. I got a lot of meetings in Nashville and some of the surrounding states. I'm going to drop down to Mississippi and Alabama. And, you know, some of the, a lot of the states around Tennessee are talking about doing the same things and talking about how they network together. Yes. That's a key thing, too.

Having a network of states. That's one of the things Senator Nicely has talked about. You've got to get several states together. Yes. That's a key thing, too. Yes. Having a network of states. That's one of the things Senator Nicely's talked about. You've got to get several states together. A network of states is, you know, I don't want to call it the Confederacy. Well, technically it would be, I guess. I think now you're talking about something that's much more bottom-up, where the states cooperate and coordinate, you know, deal-by-deal transactions. So you have relationships where you're helping each other do a better job, go faster, and they're, you know,

given the different strengths of the different states, there's so much that can be done to cooperate between those states that will really help advantage each other. So right so you know i think it's pretty exciting and if you look at the you know we have an extraordinary number of very capable and talented state legislators who have been you know they haven't gone up to the federal level they haven't become senators or congressmen because they're too clean yeah yeah exactly they're too clean but they're very very competent and they're very capable and and it's taken a while for them to realize oh i'm more competent to engineer this than you know all these hot shots you know

they're they've got a control file they're they're on you know they're on a leash i'm not on i can do this and so that's what's important is the state and local races is far more important you have far more leverage than you do with with washington so i'm telling you to spend almost all your time and money this year on your state and local races that's right you know don't worry about the federal election because this will be decided. And if you're in a state that where there's not going to be financial transaction freedom and you can move, you know, you may want to get your, you know. And I don't want to say that because the traffic problem in Tennessee is really bad. Well, think about what happened in 2020. And that's where you can see that where the rubber meets the road is at the local level. So your schedule is going to be there as to i'm coming i'm coming at the end of january and

i'll be over i'll be in hickory valley for the first week or two and then i'll move over to shelbyville and be going up spending a lot of time in nashville um and then i'll i'll be networking around the state for lots of meetings and then head up to New England for the end of February. I'll be there for a week and then come back to Tennessee. But I'll also be going, we'll be going around the country. And we'll, at some point, we'll put up our schedule by the end of the month so people will know where we're going. We're really responding to clusters of people, particularly Salary Report subscribers, who want to meet up. And it's great because when, you know, one of the things that happens, and this is one of the reasons I want to do this, is we have these wonderful subscribers and they're in

a place and they say, there are no like-minded people around. And I'll look at our database and I'll say, look, there are a ton of like-minded people around because they're all subscribing to the Salary Report. So we'll go there and meet up, and then everybody meets. And it's so amazing to watch it, David, because literally you can be in some of these meetings, and within an hour, they look like they've known each other for 20 years. It's so fabulous.

That's great. Anyway, so we're going to try and do a lot of meetups and make sure people can find each other, you know, sort of in their local areas. Good. So people check the Chexelary.com. Chexelary.com. And they will see your schedule as it gets finalized because you're still building that. So that's great. Looking forward to seeing you at one of these.

And I'll be checking the site to see where that's going to be coming. Thank you so much for joining us. Catherine Austin fits. Thank you, David. I just love what you do. I've always loved what you do. And thank you.

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