The David Knight Show - INTERVIEW Documentary About FBI/DoJ Abuse Gets Filmmaker De-Banked

Episode Date: May 16, 2024

"Kidnap and Kill" (@KandKFilm kandkfilm.com) is a documentary about the FBI scheme to entrap and frame people in an alleged plot to kidnap and kill Gov Gretchen Whitmer and the crooked "justice" system that hides exculpatory evidence from juries and so much moreFilmmaker @NotRadix was just de-banked and she is not alone. Many other conservatives have as well. Christina joins to* describe what happened with an update* update on the cases* update on the film as it nears completionFind out more about the show and where you can watch it at TheDavidKnightShow.comIf you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-showOr you can send a donation throughMail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @[e-mail] App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Money is only what YOU hold: Go to DavidKnight.gold for great deals on physical gold/silverFor 10% off Gerald Celente's prescient Trends Journal, go to TrendsJournal.com and enter the code KNIGHTBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.

Earlier today, Attorney General Dana Nessel was joined by officials from the Department of Justice and the FBI to announce state and federal charges against 13 members of two militia groups who are preparing to kidnap and possibly kill me. We're grateful to the FBI and law enforcement to discover these domestic terrorism and stop them. You know, it's the sort of behavior you might expect from ISIS. You might see a number that high in a sprawling narcotics

conspiracy that stretches from coast to coast and beyond. That's a pretty high number in a case like this. It really reflects, I think, how deeply the government has been diving into this investigation to try to make these cases. It was just literally a bunch of working class guys who on the weekend got together and, you know, exercised their rights and trained with firearms.

So the FBI says, hey, we'll just pay for everything. Who arranged the meeting? The FBI is paid provocateur. Robeson was getting paid to set this stuff up. So they make the route. They set the locations. They make the plan. They do everything.

And Adam's literally just sitting in the basement of a vacuum repair shop smoking blunts all day. You're going to hear that my client was the leader of this group. But I think you're also going to hear that there was an election held to identify the leader, and it was Dan. How can I frame a social situation to make this naive person appear to be a dangerous, violent terrorist? the whole goal was for the fbi to spend millions of dollars to create militia groups record them saying offensive stuff and then frame them in a fake conspiracy And as you can see, K&Kfilm.com is where you can find that trailer and where you'll eventually be able to find this documentary

that our guest Christina is working on. Thank you for joining us, Christina. Thank you for having me. I appreciate it. Well, it's good to have you on. We talked a couple of months ago, and I was surprised to see that our interview is not playing on Rumble. I don't know what's happening with that, but that could be a technical issue.

I don't know, but we do have it on other platforms. But I wanted to get an update as to what happened with Bank of America and your debanking. Let's talk about there's been some changes in some of these cases that are there and because they're still ongoing. And so we've had some people that have been acquitted, but some others are in jail and there's other cases that are being appealed. And so we'll do an update on that and then we'll get an update on your documentary. But let's talk first about the debanking at Bank of America. Tell us what the current status is of that. Well, it's just a mess. I don't even know what the current status is of that well it's just a mess i don't even know what the current status of it is because i keep getting conflicting information

from them but uh what happened was like five days ago um i noticed my bank card stopped working so like nobody called me the bank did not reach out to me nobody told me they were going to be terminating the account they just did it um and so you like i noticed my bank card wasn't working so then i tried to log into my online banking and i could not log in through mobile banking it said my username didn't exist and then it was like prompting me to create a new one, but that wasn't working either. And I'm like, what is going on? So I'm thinking there's a technical glitch or something. So I actually went into my physical branch location to ask them what was going on to see if they could figure it out.

And the girl at the front desk told me that the risk department had decided to sever the business relationship. and she didn't know why and of course like the I don't blame the the bank employees like I don't think that woman in that location knew anything about this these decisions are obviously being made by higher ups at the bank so she puts me in this cubicle and says here's a phone and puts me on the phone with the risk department and i'm trying to get some kind of answers because i've had this account for almost 10 years i've never had any issues with the account with bank of america before so i'm at i'm trying to ask them like well why was this decision made how come nobody called me you know what's the problem they wouldn't me. They were saying these canned responses that are like, you know, Bank

of America's terms of service say that we reserve the right to sever the business relationship at any time without reason or notice. So they just say you agree to the terms of service. And so they don't have to give you a reason. And I said okay well can you tell me what the current balance of my account is because i had deposited checks that's the other thing i was physically in the bank a few days ago to make deposits and nobody said anything to me then so i'm waiting for checks to clear and i go well can you tell me the balance they would not tell me the balance of my account. I can't log in to see it. I can't see my transaction history. And so there's like no answers. And they made it clear that they weren't going to give me any. So I go, OK, I leave the bank. I go home.

I call again. I try to get somebody else from the risk department that maybe can give me more answers on the phone. And I'm on the phone with them for five minutes. They are refusing to tell me any more information other than they're terminating the account. And I said, can you transfer me to a media liaison, you know, transfer me to your media department. I myself am a journalist. So I'd like to get a quote from your media department about your corporate policies and if this is part of them they told me they couldn't transfer me to a media department or a media rep which I think is a little bit ridiculous so they were they made clear too in that phone call that they were not going to restore the account and that they weren't going to give me any information so i had the presence of mind to record when i was in the branch location talking

to the woman there so i put a thread up on twitter just telling people warning people if you are in bank of america get your money out of the banks it's not safe with these banks because this is what can happen to you and i posted posted the video. I had no idea it was going to go like viral the way that it did. And everybody was tagging Bank of America online. And that must have stirred something up with Bank of America, because the day before yesterday, they started blowing up my phone in the evening and telling me that executives were investigating and other parties were investigating. And I said, well, is law enforcement investigating? And they said no. And then they told me that the account had been restored, but it's not restored as far as i can tell i still have no access to

online i can't log into online banking and it says my account is locked so i don't believe they restored the account i think they told me that because i think they wanted the pressure to go away for them but as far as i'm concerned as far as I know right now, I still can't see my account. I still can't see my transaction history. I can't see the current amount I have in there and I cannot access my funds. Now, they also told me when I was in the physical branch location and I was on the phone with the risk department and asking them, well, you know, can you tell me my account balance? They're saying no. And then I said, okay, well, if you're going to make this decision to terminate my account without notice,

can I withdraw the funds I have in there now and then just go to a different bank? They said no. They were going to hold the funds hostage and that I would receive a quote check in the mail, but they would not give me a timeframe of when when i could expect this and for people who are uh you know small businesses independent journalists filmmakers every bit matters and counts like i have a shoot coming up in less than two weeks where i have an additional crew member i have to pay like i am counting on my funds to come through so having something like that happen not just to me but, but to anybody, it causes a lot of disruptions. Another interesting thing about this is that they chose to do it right after I publicly

announced that I was going to be making another trip because a lot of people have supported the film. The whole film has been done through crowdfunding. So I let people know I give them updates on the progress and status of like what I'm doing so I told people I was going to be doing this and they also did it the day before a bunch of my auto pays go through so I'm getting emails about payments being declined which is still happening by the way they claim that they restored the account I'm still having payments being declined so again this is not true nothing they're telling me makes any sense or is adding up at all and so

this is where we stand today um so i did luckily this maybe it'll be your next documentary because this is something that's happening a lot as i talked about it yesterday you know nigel farage he had that same type of situation and they denied that they had debanked him and everything. But more investigations, they eventually got a hold of some internal emails. And it turned out that the CEO of a bank that was partially owned by the government itself had said, we're going to shut this down. And so we're seeing this happening everywhere. You know, with Nigel Farage, we've seen John Eastman also got his account at Bank of America shut down. He was a lawyer for Trump.

And he had a second account at USAA, which is for people in the military, can open up an account there if they've been in the military. And they both shut down his account. We're seeing this debanking being used for political purposes increasingly. I myself have had a problem with it. I talked about it yesterday. banking being used for political purposes increasingly. I myself have had a problem with it. I talked about it yesterday after I had the show for five months. PayPal shut it down. I spent two hours on the phone.

I wish I had recorded it. But, you know, the guy kept digging and digging is very helpful. But he said, the only thing I can find is I got one message. Delete this account immediately. And they shut down PayPal and Venmo immediately. And like you, I had a lot of people who were trying to send me payments and they were being declined. It's like, what's going on here?

Where'd you go? That type of thing. Yeah, yeah. And this is, I mean, this is incredibly disruptive. It starts with people like Dr. John Eastman, like you said, Trump's lawyer, who arguably is somebody who's way more important than me, small time filmmaker that most people don't know of and

haven't heard of so if they can do this to me it's just a matter of time before they start doing it to regular people and that is incredibly concerning because i happen to be very lucky i am a small independent filmmaker but i happen to be well respected and i have a lot of peers who know about me and support my work across the board so i was lucky that i had enough people that could amplify this on social media if you don't have the privilege of having a semi-public platform and you're just a regular person and they decide to do this to you for your politics you don't have recourse you don't have the ability to cause a social media storm to get executives to call you and tell you they're investigating what happened that for normal people no they would be in a position where they couldn't access their money

they couldn't see their account balance couldn't access their transaction history and would be told to wait for a quote check in the mail at a time where inflation is through the roof most americans live paycheck to paycheck and are one medical emergency away from homelessness they want you to wait for your own money and they're not going to give you a time frame of when you can receive this check in the mail then there's also the issue of while you're dealing with being debanked and trying to go to another institution while this other one is still holding your funds and payments are being declined, this also adversely affects your credit score in the meantime. As payments

get declined, as you're trying to move to a new institution, and maybe you don't have the funds to open up an account because you're waiting for your check in the mail. So what do you do during that time? Do you wait however long it takes for them to send you your money? And in the meantime, your bills are just not being paid or you have to pay them with credit cards and run up credit card debt. This is not acceptable in America. Banking has gotten to the point like social media where it is ubiquitous and it's essentially like a utility now okay you can't get through your daily life without having a bank account being able to conduct transactions uh and and so they sh they cannot get away with doing this and we can't allow it also an interesting thing 15 attorney generals have written a letter to bank of america demanding

explanations for what they're doing with debanking conservatives and dissidents my attorney general for my state of virginia jason meorkas is one of the attorney generals who signed on to that so i'm hoping and i'm trying to reach out to his office because I think that if somebody does some digging in Bank of America's internal communications, they're going to find something where my account specifically was flagged. And I believe it's because of the work I'm doing on this documentary. And I think that's what it was. Oh, absolutely. And we've seen this before, as I pointed out yesterday, Bank of America in terms of turning over all kinds of information about all their customers who are doing transactions in and around washington on

january the 6th they had colluded with the fbi the fbi can ask them for anything they want and they take the position just like they do with phone companies that that's their data and if they want to voluntarily turn it over the fbi doesn't need to have a search warrant. And so Bank of America worked with them. And the reason they're doing this is because Bank of America, like all of these too-big-to-fail banks, are highly connected to the federal government. And, of course, they were creatures of the federal government. Bank of America kicked off all these mergers that created a handful of of banks that were too big to fail 10 years later at the same time that clinton americans failed out

we bailed them out and then they want to debank us yeah i don't think so yeah but you know that's the political collusion that they have there you know that they they were they approved that merger in spite of the fact they knew they were going to wind up with about a half dozen banks that were too big to fail uh they approved that and then they removed the uh restrictions on getting involved in speculative investment that's why these banks could then go in and buy up you know like bank of america did merrill lynch and things like that they removed the glass deagle act they allow these big bank mergers and and here's where it's all going to go uh christina this is you know when we look at this and the politicization of this and how rapidly this is all seized, this is a preview of what's in it for everybody with CBDC.

This is the way they're going to do it. Once they get CBDC, oh, well, you wrote this post on social media and they noticed it. All of a sudden now everything is locked. You're locked out of everything and that's what they can do once they get to a completely digitized central bank digital currency they can shut everybody down just like they've done you you just outlined some of the immediate things that you're going to be facing but you know that check presumably is in the mail but in the meantime it's a tremendous hassle for you.

Presumably they'll send it, you know, but if we got CBDC, they just shut you down and leave it that way. And there's nothing you're going to do about it. This is why people need to rise up against CBDC. We need to rise up against what is happening with these big banks like Bank of America. But this is where it's ultimately going and it's going there for everybody.

The social credit system, like we see in China and the debanking absolutely that's i think what's even more concerning is how quickly i think that we are moving into uh that new financial system i think also and this may this is just my speculation so i'll just say that as a caveat. I believe they're purposely going to crash the economy. I think they're doing it now on purpose. They're allowing the regional bank crisis to get worse. I think they want that because when the regional banks fail, they'll once again come in to consolidate power and to say, because this happened now, we need a new system.

We need the CBDC. We need a great reset, a new reset, right? We're going to reset the financial system that's what it's going to be and that to me is is terrifying because that means in the future they can like you said shut you down overnight and you will not have any recourse another weird thing they were asking me to when i was on the phone with them is they were asking me about like checks I had been depositing. And they're asking me about my transactions, things that isn't frankly, isn't their business. They're like, you know, I obviously receive

donations from people. So people send donations from all over the world. I don't know who's sending them, but they were asking me, do you know who sent this check? Were you expecting this? Do you know what this was for? And things like this. And I'm going, what does it matter? Whose business is this of yours?

And they were saying, well, there could be fraud, not on your part, but on other. And it's like, well, isn't it your job then to investigate that and do the due diligence? You're the financial institution, not me. No. And it was just really weird. And it seems to me like they're looking for an explanation and an excuse for what they did to try to say they didn't debank me, to try to lie about what happened and say, oh, no, there could have been fraud. And it just flagged our system and was a mistake. It was not a mistake.

When I went into the bank, nobody said anything to me about potential fraud or a red flag on the account. No, they just said the risk department decided to terminate the business relationship. But now the story has changed since they got all this flack on social media and conveniently also today or it was yesterday their response is due to those 15 attorney generals they're supposed to reply to the letter about specifically what what they are doing debanking uh conservatives and dissidents and the attorney general were asking them to change their terms of service to explicitly state bank of america does not discriminate against people for religious or political reasons i doubt they're going to make that change to the terms of service so we'll see what can what happens but yeah interesting timing yeah they have friends in

high places that'll make sure they don't get punished for that. I mean, they have been selected as partners and all of this stuff. And when we look at all of this cancel culture directed at people for what they say on social media, you know, they can kick you off of social media and life goes on. And it goes on even if you've got a media company or something like that. It goes on without even being on social media but when they weaponize the financial system against us as they have made all indications they intend to do in a chinese style system that's where it's going to be untenable for people and that's where the the screws really come in and so that's what we really have to be concerned about uh and again you're at the very front of this let's give give us an update as to what's going on with these particular cases,

because there has been some changes in the cases of Barry Croft, Adam Fox, who were convicted back in August of 2022. Yeah, so we do have, well, I will say, I at least think it's good news. So we just had oral arguments on Adam and Barry's appeals at the Sixth Circuit in front of a three-judge panel. The oral arguments, I believe, went well. The defense got 10 minutes each, the government got 20 minutes, and it was really interesting listening to the judges on the Sixth Circuit ask Nils Kessler, the prosecutor on the case, about why the government was basically preventing

all of this exculpatory information from the defense to be included. And one of it gets into the statements made by the informants that were incriminating for them. The government was able to keep a number of informants completely off the stand. One of them was their main PEPFAR informant, Steve Robeson. He was a key architect of the plot, maybe even the main architect, along with the other main informant, Dan Chappell, also known as Big Dan. And so by preventing him from testifying, he was able to plead the fifth and the defense had requested that the judge compel him to testify. The judge did not. So the government argued that anything that informant said on audio would be hearsay and that the jury wouldn't get to hear it. Well, all of the audio

that we have and the defense did, by way they filed a motion it was called out of court statements that they wanted to bring in it was essentially all the things that were exculpatory in nature for the defense there's a whole list of individual statements text messages they wanted to get in in front of the jury and the judge denied that motion with this bogus blanket hearsay ruling across the board. And he stuck to that at the retrial of Adam and Barry, because remember, the first trial ended in zero convictions, two acquittals and a mistrial on Adam and Barry. So they retried them. And then there were a number of other issues with the retrial as well that were also talked about at oral argument one being an issue with potential juror misconduct there was a juror on the jury in the retrial of adam and barry who

allegedly according to three different witnesses at his work when he received the jury summons he said oh i hope i get on the whitmer case i'm'm going to hang those guys. Those were his exact words. And this was according to three different people. Mid-trial, the defense lawyers brought this to Judge Onker's attention. They had their private investigator find other cooperating witnesses. And the judge did not hold a proper what is called a Remmer hearing where the defense could interrogate the juror and ask him, did you say this? What the judge did, and this is highly unusual, is he brings the juror and the government in closed chambers without defense lawyers being there. And he says, I don't have any video of you saying this and you're not under oath, but

there are allegations you said this, did you say it? And the juror does not deny saying it. He does not explicitly deny it. He goes, I don't remember. I don't think I don't think I did. Well, the judge goes, oh, OK. And then just allows him to continue on. Now, when it comes to things like impropriety in these trials especially one that is high stakes like this there's not even supposed to be the appearance of impropriety so even the appearance of misconduct by a juror should have gotten that juror removed in an alternate uh put in his place it's also interesting that that juror went on to be the foreman of the jury isn't that nice yeah also other things that happened like um one of the guys that took a plea deal caleb franks at the retrial of adam and barry

the government limited their cross-examination by the defense to 25 minutes but the prosecutors had an unlimited time with caleb frank so they could spend 50 minutes um with their uh direct and then when it went to the defense to cross-examine him they got 25 minutes and when it got down to the last few minutes judge onker starts doing a physical countdown you have two minutes left are you really going to waste your time with this crap line of questioning and he starts disparaging them and he's only doing this to the defense not the government so it's very clear and he starts disparaging them. And he's only doing this to the defense, not the government. So it's very clear. And he's doing this in front of the jury. It's clear to the jury who the judge favors, what side the judge favors. So this is completely inappropriate. This is not

a fair trial. It is a kangaroo court. So those were the issues brought up on oral argument. And the main one, though, being the hears hearsay stuff because the judges on the sixth circuit the three judge panel asked the appeals lawyers for adam and barry well what would you like us to do you know uh they said we'd like a new trial where we can actually admit evidence and call witnesses you know like what you're supposed to have so they go okay that's i think that's where we're going the government now has two weeks to respond their argument which was interesting at oral arguments about the hearsay thing the prosecutor nils kessler tried to say well they don't have any

specific statements that they want in and i'm like um what are you talking about i've got the binder here they filed an entire thing filled with all of these. These are all statements that they wanted to get in. These are all things Steve Robeson said where he is directing a man named Frank Butler from Virginia to start a quick reaction force. He's trying to get him to kidnap and kill Ralph Northam. That's why we have the text message from the handling agent, Jason Chambers, saying mission is to kill the governor specifically. That was about Ralph Northam and a separate thing they were doing while they were doing the Whitmer hoax because they really wanted it to be a multi-state plot. And you'll hear more about that in the documentary there. That's amazing. You know, I've seen this type of thing as well in all the cases that I've looked at in detail. You go back and you look at the Bundy Ranch, for example. The amount of exculpatory evidence that they ruled out, and they did that and got some convictions early on.

But before the conclusion in terms of coming after Ammon Bundy and some of the others, they had a whistleblower from the Bureau of Land Management. And it's because of that whistleblower coming forward that they didn't get convictions on everything because they ruled out and excluded all kinds of exculpatory evidence. I saw the same thing with Ross Ulbrich in the Silk Road trial. He's serving three consecutive life sentences. He'll never get parole. And the reason is that after they convicted him, the prosecutor prosecutor and when they were doing the sentencing, they said, well, you know, he put out this murder for hire thing and he was never even indicted, let alone found guilty of that. That was just something that was thrown out to the media. fact that there were FBI agents who were running Silk Road and had and were currently as his trial was going on these two FBI agents were on trial themselves for embezzling money out of Silk Road

anything that they applied to him could have been applied to the could have been the FBI agents that were doing it and and they kept that away from the jury that these guys had all the keys to the website and were embezzling money and were on trial themselves for that type of thing and so it is amazing how the the justice system is rigged and when you look at any of this any of these trials it's just amazing uh how they they exclude all this evidence so we clearly show that somebody is innocent yeah and i i like to remind people we have a legal system not a justice system that's right it's a legal system uh which is designed of course to um bring in money and uh you know to punish people that the government doesn't like and the entire thing is like most

of these judges are former prosecutors like the government doesn't like and the entire thing is like most of these judges are former prosecutors like the government has every advantage even though they have almost unlimited resources and the people they're up against are borderline indigent for the most part uh like for the you know in the whitmer case certainly uh where those guys were reliant on public defenders and i believe that they didn't think it was going to go to trial i think they believed they were going to arrest these guys and do this shock and awe thing of like you're facing life in prison we've got a 99 conviction rate blah blah blah you know they do these scare tactics and a lot of times public defenders will work with the prosecutors in this way because they have a big caseload.

They encourage often their clients to take plea deals for something they didn't do. That's right. They'll say, well, you know, this is what you're up against. And they scare you and they make you think that you cannot win going up against this machine. And that's what it is. It is a well-oiled machine in place um the legal system is basically a racket and it's a scam up and down it's all about making money and i say this as somebody who worked as a paralegal for many years and saw it uh from the inside you know

i went to criminal i was in the criminal justice program in high school, and I had this silly idea about like just the justice system. And that's not how it is at all. Once you really experience it, you go, oh, this is like a Ponzi scheme. Basically, you know, they have these court appointed guardians ad litem. They have all these things with them. They're just there to make money and not to help people but destroy them and and as you point out most people won't go to trial it's uh i don't know what this is something like 93 or whatever just just plea out and take a deal uh because the thing is so rigged

and because we don't have independently thinking juries you know we don't have jury nullification as talked to you know uh the judges tell them no you can't do that sometimes specifically they find out that you're doing jury nullification they will remove you they may not remove you they may leave you and as the foreman if you uh said i'm out to get this guy but if you say something about jury nullification they're going to uh immediately remove you so it is very rigged and they do come up with all of these that it's like shock and awe overwhelming people with all these extra charges and everything you have to firmly believe in your innocence and uh in order to uh push back against this system and

actually take it to trial i think yeah i agree and i think that they assume these guys were gonna just take the plea deals and that this wouldn't go to trial and none of this information would come out i think that's what they were expecting i don't think they ever thought anyone was going to hear about steve robeson you know um well give us an update as to what's going on with the documentary and i'm sure that it's taking a hit now because of all this stuff and i'm sure that's the intention yeah exactly yeah um we are you know as i had said we're preparing to do another shoot this one is pretty important so i'll be traveling back to michigan um it is just overwhelming uh on just to try to do it as such a small crew um we're a very small crew so we're just a few people

and uh it's very difficult but um where we stand right now is we've got one one more shoot i'm going to be spending a week in michigan going up and down the state i have access for a limited time to certain very important areas of interest from the case that are basically essential to the documentary so this is probably my most important trip um and then there's one more i have to make and then we should be able to get back into post-production but every time i say that there's always something that ends up happening because the it's such a complex story. This is four years, four different trials, 14 defendants, 20 unindicted co-conspirators, everybody's family and friends. There's a lot. I think people have a misunderstanding of how much work goes into doing something like this, how expensive it is to make a documentary. Believe it or not, they don't actually just get made by themselves overnight. It takes a lot of work, a lot of resources, a lot of financing.

And we have been very lucky and very blessed to have been able to essentially crowdfund this so far my family has also helped out and they're very supportive and I'm very very lucky to have them because they know that this is something that is important to me that I'm passionate about so um I will not put the film out until it is complete and I am going to be going through things in detail in the documentary because nobody else is going to do it somebody had to preserve the historical record so I have a lot uh a lot right now that we're sitting on um so hopefully yes the what they've done now with the debanking right before I have to travel is causing a lot of problems for me because it's you know, I have enough trying to plan a the hour for what I'm going to do each day because of my limited time. So I already was trying to do that. Now it adds more things that I have to deal with first. And then of course, some of my money is now tied up and I don't know when I'm going to

get it. Luckily though, they did not get the bank account for the documentary itself. And I think the reason for that is because I did not use any big bank. I knew going into it when I created the fundraiser for the documentary, I created a separate account just for that. I had a feeling that they might try. So I went with like a bank that is not a big bank that a lot of people haven't even heard of and i think that's the only reason why that one has survived so far so if you have donated to the documentary uh with the give send go fundraiser you have nothing to worry about those funds will they're fine they have not gotten any of that that's good um that's good and that's one of the key things you know we need to need to

think about that we need to look towards local banks uh smaller banks banks where you're going to know the people and um you know not the banks that are so tightly tied into the federal government and the fbi and other things like that, like bank of America. I think it's very right. Bank of America, who has collaborated with the FBI, as you said,

with January 6th, this is one of the things the 15 attorney general said in their letter to bank of America in the first three paragraphs, they said they collaborate with the FBI. So I changed their name to the bank of the FBI. Yeah. Right. with the FBI. Maybe they'll change their name to Bank of the FBI. Yeah, right? It's like banking with J. Edgar Hoover, you know? Yeah, I feel like they just wanted to cause inconveniences for me

and to try to do this right before I had to leave for a shoot to make it more difficult for me to slow down my progress, to throw things in my way. That's happened from the beginning by the way like i came into this to filming this very objective about the situation and about the guys and i just wanted to know the truth and i as i started doing it things kept happening that just was reinforcing what i was seeing in the discovery of like how vindictive the government can be and what they will do to people who they just don't like yeah um oh yeah like i have had uh and i

think i talked about this before when i was interviewing adam and barry um i interviewed barry right before his sentencing the night before I said, is there any statement you want to get out? I have a small platform, but I'll put it out for you. He said, yes, I put it out like a five minute video, maybe at nine o'clock at night. sentencing to call him unrepentant and completely radicalized for not taking responsibility for the FBI's plot and maintaining his innocence. But then he also said that he was a spiritual leader. He was like the blind sheik and all this other nonsense. He gave Barry 19 and a half years. So Barry ended up getting more time than Adam Fox, who the government initially said was the ringleader and focused on adam adam got 16 years though barry got 19 and a half and i think that's because at that time of sentencing barry was participating in the documentary more than any of the other guys including more than adam and i think it was punishment to him specifically oh yeah so that night after their sentencing i'm interviewing him again i said

do you guys want to get statements out to the weaponization committee i will record them i'll get them out the guys wrote their statements i record barry reading his as a four minute long statement i publish it the next day the next morning both adam and barry are moved out of nuago county and sent to different supermax prisons across the country adam sent to florence supermax barry sent to terre haute where they then tell him when he gets there that he's going to be moved into the communications management unit the cmu which would have prevented his ability to basically even communicate with me through letters. So at that point, once they did that, oh, and my house was raided twice. At the same time, these guys were moved to super maxes.

So all of these things were happening that are sort of like plausible deniability for the government that, oh, maybe it's just coincidental timing that this is happening. But it's just one thing after another. And these really seem like with the debanking now also with the Bureau of Prisons labeling me a security risk for no reason. I have no criminal record. I'm somebody who was in the criminal justice system, worked in law for many years, volunteered with the Orthodox prison ministries before I even started this documentary so I should have no issues with the BOP uh they had approved me for visitation with one of the guys then I I called before I came for the visit I get there physically they say now I'm not approved

anymore and they wouldn't tell me why they wouldn't let me visit with them the poor kid you know he had just gotten his hair cut he was ready to get his picture taken with me and he was sitting there waiting and i can't call him to tell him they're not letting me in well i find out later that they tell me that the bop has denied my visits now because i'm a quote security risk they wouldn't sign off on it though nobody from BOP would sign a name to that and nobody would tell me who made that determination when it was made and on what criteria that was made so we have a FOIA request in right now with the Federal Bureau of prisons I attended a BOP oversight hearing I met the director of the BOP Colette Peters she told

me she was going to facilitate a visit and then this is what happened this was the result of that right she put me in touch with her um media person who was supposed to facilitate this visit and I get this email with just from a generic BOP at bop.gov you know email with nobody's name on it saying you have been, you know, you're, they had approved me first and then they said they rescinded the approval and I'm a quote security risk. Wow. Well, yeah.

Nobody will tell me why. That's what exactly, it looks like the no fly list. We look at all these different things that they have come up with in just the last few years, last 20 years or so. Things like the no fly list, things like the communication management unit that you mentioned. I've talked many times to Marty Gottesfeld, who was put in there. His big crime was he came after a Harvard-affiliated children's hospital up in Boston because there was a medical kidnapping case there. He embarrassed them.

They got him sent to prison, and they got him sent to a communications management unit because he was connected to a lot of different people so we look at these types of things these are structures that have absolutely no place in a republic that has a bill of rights like we do and a constitution like we do they belong in a dystopian totalitarian society which is what we have become folks if you start to peel this back all of these different structures are being uh have been set up they've already been applied to a lot of people the question is when are they going to broaden this out to everybody because um that is what's going to happen and it is it makes it very uh concerned about things like cbdc and these other things digital id and stuff like that because we

see the totalitarian heart of our government that it despises the principles that america was founded on it truly is amazing um if people want to find keep up with you and find it they can go to k and k is it film singular or film plural uh dot com k and k film dot com? K and K film dot com. Good. Okay. And there they can find how they can donate and support. You've got links to all of that stuff there. They can see the trailer that we played at the beginning of this.

And I would imagine, you know, as you move forward, I mean, these trials are still in appeal. They could continue in appeal. I guess you're going to have to just kind of you know put put something there together and then you could always do an update as some of these things are resolved and i would imagine that after the the core of the story is told that there would be an opportunity to go for people to go back and dig deeper you know that's what we're thinking yeah we're thinking of we're focused right now on getting the first part out. Part one, I think, is going to be the main focus. And then after that, maybe a part two and three, because there's just no way you can get all of this information into one film. You have to do it that way so we're focused now but we can't even get part one done without doing this last shot we were in post-production we were working on editing and we're like you know

what we just can't without access to certain locations which i was able to secure this is the other reason why i think they really don't want me doing this last trip because and i say what it is because that would be foolish. As I know, my assigned agent is watching and listening, but they have other ways of tracking and monitoring all of your communications. I already know that they're monitoring mine. Certainly, they monitor all of my communications with the five guys who are still in prison. And so I feel like they really don't want me coming for this last shoot because this is going to be my most important one. And I'm really looking forward to it. Also, I will say for the appeals of the state guys, Pete Musico, Joe Morrison and Paul Bellar, the three who were tried at the state level for, quote, providing material support and then moved to federal BOP facilities across the country on the eve of their appeals. All of those guys could be incarcerated, by the way, until 2063.

So that's about 40 years for nothing. Paul's 25 right now. It's just insane to think about. He's been incarcerated since he was 21 years old joe's only 29 right now his two young kids have not they're like babies they have not gotten to be with their father at all um and then pete is his father-in-law that's their grandfather is also incarcerated so imagine that your father and grandfather are incarcerated for something they didn't do and it could potentially be for 40 years that is just insane to think about what we know for that is for paul we have a hearing on him about bringing him back to michigan that hearing is coming up june 7 in michigan and it looks like the defense has filed for a writ to kind of compel them to bring him back to Michigan

so he can meaningfully participate in the appeals process. Right now, as it is in Minersville, Pennsylvania, he's got no access to a Michigan law library. His Michigan court-appointed public defender can't meet with him, doesn't make those drives, So he's had no contact with his lawyer. Legal mail is returned to sender. So he has not gotten the transcripts he needs to prepare for his appeal. And then it goes on and on. All of the attorney client privileged phone calls are being monitored by a third party. And I'm not saying that this is coming from court filings in the case. Anyone can go look at the exhibits where where the attorneys are saying this. A third party is monitoring the phone calls.

We all know who that third party is. We also all know that Whitmer is the head of the MDOC. As the governor of Michigan, she is actually the head of the Michigan Department of Corrections. If you don't know how the organizational chart works, that's how it is. So even if we do bring all three guys back to Michigan pending appeal, my concern is as soon as they step foot in Michigan, they're getting put in the hole and contact with them is going to cease. And that's my concern right now is keeping in touch with them during this time time because we have no idea what's going to happen it's also very weird that the trial judge is still overseeing the appeals judge

wilson and this is the bizarre thing they say well judge wilson in this court of claims process if he decides like he's going to decide to take up an appeal on his own rulings why are we wasting time with this then they go oh well after if he makes a decision after that then it goes to the uh like the michigan court of appeals or something and with a three judge panel and then they'll make a decision and i said so why are we doing this then is this just to waste time and just to keep these men in prison he's judge wilson's not going to disagree with rulings he made that's just nonsensical and so i i just have no i feel like i'm in clown world i have no idea what's happening and as somebody who worked in law i've never seen something like this occur where the trial judge becomes the person overseeing the appeals process. I've never seen that happen before.

Amazing. Well, it's a story that really has to be told, and it's something that we should all be concerned about, how our government has loosened the chains that were supposed to bind them down, as Patrick Henry said, bind them down with the chains of the Constitution. But the fact that we have these bureaucracies, because that's what the fbi is it's a federal bureaucracy that we have these bureaucracies that will uh entrap that will bait and entrap and then we have the and that's part of this a big part of this and then the other part of it is how they will deny due process how they will deny a fair trial how they will apply excessive punishment all of these things are part of this

story and of so many other stories but if people can see this in one story they they might understand um you know just how important it is and these other ones and i i know that you're going to have a lot of uh problems with uh uh getting this scene take a look at uh the uh at the movie that Clint Eastwood did about the Olympic bombings in Atlanta, for example, right? And Richard Jewell and what happened with that. They came after that movie in so many different ways. They used the Me Too thing to shut it down. of frivolous and slanderous things that will probably come out, just like they threw against Clint Eastwood, to try to shut down this film, get people to not see it,

because that's the way they operate. And that was an excellent movie. And more people should have seen it, because that gives them a glimpse into the reality of the FBI. It's not this carefully prepared and presented image that Jagger Hoover would always do through Hollywood and through his TV show that he ran, you know, for years and years when I was much younger.

But that's, that's, it's a, it's a PR thing and they work on that very much. So of course they're going to be opposing you. They oppose anything that shows them getting it wrong and getting it vindictive. And so,

but we should all be very concerned about what is happening to our government. And we need more documentaries about these types of things. But your film is very important. It was also the template for J6. The same guy that ran that operation goes to Washington and runs the J6 thing to entrap people. We've got people that we seeing such so much excessive punishment of pro-life people of j6 people of these guys it truly is amazing what our government has become i think it's it's disgusting and it's very sad um i'm somebody who you know i'm a very nice lady i

love to give people the benefit of the doubt and you know i try to be very positive and stuff like that but this the process of like working on this has really i don't want to say black pilled me but it has i already was aware of like fbi corruption in fact my research of pat con is what got me started covering the whitmer case. Because I had been looking into that prior to those guys getting arrested. Once they got arrested, I'm going, oh my God, it's PatCon all over again. And I'm seeing it. But experiencing it is different. When it starts happening to you, these COINTELPRO tactics that they do, or like what the East German Stasi did. They had a program called Zerzatzang, which means decomposition, where they would do very bizarre things to people, including going into their home and rearranging furniture and then leaving.

And just to make you think that you're going crazy or you say to people, yeah, I think my home was burglarized. Would they steal anything? No, they just rearrange the furniture. That makes you sound psychotic. But these are the things they would do to people. think my home was burglarized. Would they steal anything? No, they just rearranged the furniture. That makes you sound psychotic, but these are the things they would do to people. They would arrange for failures in your work and you didn't know. You would just think that you weren't progressing in life, that you didn't get the promotion, but really they were arranging for these things to happen to you to make it as difficult for you as possible to do whatever it was you were doing they didn't like typically that is dissenting from the official narrative and exposing their

criminality and these are the kinds of things that they do the things that give them plausible deniability but it's just little death by a thousand cuts and of course you know you know about that i know about that they know about that. And there isn't any restriction on their part from a moral or a legal standard. There's no restrictions on whatever they do. So if they see something that the Stasi people did, oh, yeah, we could use that. And so they're going to adopt any and all of this stuff because there is no controlling legal authority for these organizations. And it doesn't matter you know the fbi is there but when we look at all these other different aspects whether it's the epa coming up

with arbitrary things to shut down our infrastructure there is no control and and washington is absolutely out of control none of the people in washington will do anything about it uh they will they'll hold show trials about this or that but they keep funding it all uh they're they're big superpowers that they can cut the funding to it they don't do it instead they're giving them massive new budgets and bigger budgets and they're doing the same thing with the irs as they are with the fbi here have another big pile of money we love what you're doing right well lying to us uh you know and fundraising off of these little show hearings that they do hold there's zero oversight of the fbi the weaponization committee has been a complete and total farce the nerve of

them to refer to that as a church committee 2.0 i just think is ridiculous but that's where we are jim jordan has been a complete failure he has been such a disappointment i myself have tried to get information to the committee to jim jordan himself about the Whitmer case specifically to get them to urge them to investigate. Like I said, I even got statements from the men themselves and gave them handed it off to them. committee and i've heard from you know we'll just say people behind closed doors that they're not interested in getting into the bottom of it because they're donors it's not on their list of priorities for their donors they go on a list of like one to 23 that would be number 23 at the bottom of and i'm going to the american people though it's number one for them who cares about your donors so we get hunter biden we get this nonsense uh that. Who cares about your donors? So we get Hunter Biden. We get this nonsense that, frankly, nobody cares about.

All of these political dynasties have nepo babies. Hunter Biden isn't any different by any stretch of the imagination. Who cares? You know, it's just stupid. But this is and then there are five men still incarcerated ripped from their families barry has three daughters joe has two daughters pete has daughters grandchildren paul they they threw him in there when he was 21 years old before he had a chance to start a family they're taking time from these men that they'll never get back that's right for something they didn't do and yet we can't get jim jordan to look into this we can't get him to look into the blueprint for january 6 we can't get the

weaponization committee to investigate this case the most egregious example of weaponization uh in recent history which according to the government it was the biggest the greatest domestic terrorism case in a generation we can't get the weaponization committee to investigate that then it's completely useless and it's just a farce and it's just there for them to grift off of it by taking little two-minute sound bites of themselves at these show trials and that they rush to put on social media or they get their fox news appearance that's all these people care about they don't give a damn about these men and they're not going to until we make them uh until we put enough pressure on them publicly to do something oh i agree yeah they absolutely don't care about any principles whatsoever and they don't understand that if they

allow a government that is weaponized and totalitarian, that eventually it's going to come back after them. As Michael Hayden say, we're not interested in everybody. We're only interested in interesting people. Well, guess what?

These congressmen are also interesting people. They're being blackmailed probably, but they will also find themselves up against the wall when they really drop the hammer on this stuff. And you look at these politicians who are getting censored, or even Trump, with all of these other things that are coming up against him. He could have done some things to stand up for free speech. He could have done some things to shut down this kind of weaponization, which was around the entire time. But if you don't do anything about that, it's going to eventually come around to you as well. And that's the thing that they don't know and they don't seem to care about.

They think that they're above the law as well. And they really don't care what happens to you and I. And they don't care what happens to these other people. They don't support justice whatsoever. They think they can skate through and do whatever they want. And for the most part, they're right. You know, you get Menendez beat the first trial so they haven't come in after him a second time but you know the they can pretty much do anything they want and get away with it so i guess

you know maybe that's what the whole ball game is about that's why i think we need to have this documentary we need to expose this to the light that's the way we disinfect this stuff and then people need to understand just how rotten washington is so people start directing their energies away from these people like jim jordan who aren't going to do anything and start looking at what if anything we can do at the most local level i think we're going to have to take this country back from the grassroots up and we're going to have to first of all dis uh avow any any idea that we're going to get this solved from the top down the top down the top is completely rotten absolutely yeah i agree with

you 100 i think that's honestly i think that's why the whitmer guys were targeted in the first place because they were the guys on the ground that said we we have to step up and do nothing when they saw the country burning to the ground in 2020 during the mostly peaceful protests these were the men that said let's get our community together and protect our communities that's what they were doing and that's why they didn't like them that's why they wanted to target them because they were men who said we're not going to sit here and allow you to loot buildings and businesses and burn them to the ground we are going to organize we're going to show up armed and we're going to stand out front

of these buildings and we're going to guard them they don't like that they didn't like the men armed men coming together organizing themselves and saying no we're not going to allow your tyranny anymore we're going to stand against it. And it was that. It was simply them saying those words that got them targeted. And I'd also say, for people who think they know what happened with the Whitmer case, they do not. There's so much to this story that no one knows about that I haven't even talked about because I want people to see it in the documentary

that you think you know what happened here. I can assure you, you don't. You're going to see what happened firsthand and you're going to hear from the people that actually happened to themselves. And you're going to also see the lies that were told about these families and these men. And you're going to see them for who they really are. Yes, it's very important. I really hope that you get this thing done. And the sooner the better. And I know you want to get it done as well.

KNKFilm.com is where people can find it. I would also say this, Christina, you better air gap your editing equipment and things like that. Make sure that it's not connected to anything that's connected to the internet so they don't put a virus on your machine and take it down.

Do all that kind of stuff. I'm serious mean i've had um you know mark hall who did a documentary about fatala gulen he made sure he had his stuff air gapped and he was getting threats as well uh from that organization so you know air gap your editing machine and this other stuff make sure you got lots of backups of other things as well uh guard goldsmith i would give the last uh word here to guard has liberty conspiracy and he says to christine he says this is a key conversation showing how both christina's work on the film and david's work on his show can yield new and wider benefits i keep wondering if recent probes i had with stocks at merrill lynch bank of america owned as you noted yesterday david stem from this kind of targeting. Keep up the great work. Yeah. The network that is there, and it's going

to get so much more extensive with their leverage of artificial intelligence and other things like this. We've got to try to establish some firewalls on this tyranny. If we don't, it's going to be unlimited and so unbelievably pervasive. So people need to start thinking about that. We need to put some air gaps between us and the internet because that's one of their key tools, you know, for our essential things like finances and food and other things like that. Get an air gap, get it out there separate from some of these other things.

Thank you so much for joining us, Christina. Sorry about all the problems that you're having, but of course, thank you for fighting and we know you're going to get this thing finished k and k film.com thank you very much thank you thank you well that's it folks for today and um again i've got some stuff i didn't get to today but it's we'll save it for tomorrow we've got some things happening tomorrow and um it is very important for us to understand just how far from the Constitution the federal government has gotten. Not to get drawn into these personal petty rivalries between presidential candidates and the uniparty. That's there to keep you distracted from the real things that need to be done with your life your family god and your community keep those things there and and focus on that that's what you can do

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