The David Knight Show - INTERVIEW Dr. Shiva - A Choice That's NOT "Lesser of Two Evils"

Episode Date: October 29, 2024

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And he, again, we're about a week away. And I really, as I said earlier in the program, I really like what he is doing because he is taking this thing that everybody is manic about. And he's using it to transcend this petty partisan contest to get people to look at meaningful things that they can do in their life and other places. So the website, if I'm going by memory, is it Shiva for President, the number four for President? Is that correct? Yeah, David, that's the site for coming to the campaign.

But the other site that we invite people to get educated is shattertheswarm.com. Shattertheswarm.com, which is a site that really educates people of the few control the many. And then our larger movement, you know, is truthfreedomhealth.com. Jivaforpresident.com is our campaign website. Shatter the Swarm is an educational, where in 15 minutes, we explain to people this entire system dynamics of power, profit, control. And that leads them to the larger global movement for truthfreedomhealth.com.

So those are the three sites. So it's a very methodical approach that we have to educate people. And I like what you're doing. I think the best way that we can use this is to channel people into something that is above all of this. Let's talk just briefly, since we're a week away from the election. As I said, I've got a listener who said, just check their ballot in Iowa and saw that you're on the ballot there. Talk about where you're on the ballot. Talk about what it takes to write you in and which states you have qualified for being totaled

tallied in terms of a write-in yes so first of all david to everyone listening uh in the united states we have something called the electoral college and in every state you have to find electors and the number of electors vary and those electors have to go get signatures to get you on the ballot even listed your name or even as a write-in. It's very difficult to even be a write-in for a presidential campaign, so your votes are counted. So in California, to be listed, we had to get like 300,000 signatures, right? There's no way we could have done that. But we did get ourselves the ability to be a write-in candidate, which in and of itself is quite extraordinary.

You have to get 108 electors, David, which we didn't finish. So in every state in the United States, except for New Mexico, Nevada, Hawaii, and Alaska, at minimum, people can write in Dr. Shiva, Dr. Shiva, Dr. Shiva, S-H-I-V-A. By law, the Supreme Court has ruled it is the intent of the voters. If you don't put, you can write in Shiva or Dr. Shiva. There's not any other Shivas running for president. Right. But they don't

have to use your last name. No, they don't have to. Shiva is easy to remember. Dr. Shiva or Shiva. Right. Because that is the intent of the voter every write-in vote gets kicked out of the machine david and it gets hand counted so that's an advantage that we have um so that's a good thing right it gets hand counted in 13 states we actually um got signatures to be listed on the ballot. So our names are supposed to appear on the ballot.

Among them was Washington, Iowa, Idaho, Minnesota, Massachusetts, Kentucky, missing a few here, I think I said Minnesota, right? Tennessee, Nebraska, and a few others a few others about 13 of them in those states six of them took us off the ballot illegally unconstitutionally which are in litigation right now um so in those states you can write us in um but in washington state you'll see our name if you're in massachusetts you see our name and you just you know circle in our name that's easy but in Washington state, you'll see our name. If you're in Massachusetts, you see our name and you just, you know, circle in our name. That's easy.

But in every state except those four states, which don't allow write-ins, you can write in Dr. Shiva. So it's been a pretty extraordinary effort, David, with less than a hundred thousand dollars that we created a national organization. We got on all of these ballots with electors, with leaders in 46 states and we were listed in at minimum seven to eight states, you know, and then the other four were doing litigation. One of them is going all the way up to the United States Supreme Court.

The other is going to appellate courts. And we are challenging the entire process of ballot access end to end. And we just had a major win in tennessee even the judge split the baby in half the opposition said oh this case should be thrown out because you know the election is only four days away the case is moot we printed the ballots yeah we argued that using a very very important 1969 ruling the judge gave us that win even though he dismissed it which we're going to go up to the appellate court he said this case is not moot because the constitutionality of ballot access can never be moot because the timelines are so short yeah this is a huge win we've set a big

precedent here saying that because from the time they try to throw you off the ballot illegally to the time you can file a lawsuit is only like 30 days yeah that's so the Supreme Court in a very important case called uh uh forget his name it's Ogilvy versus something else ruled that um ballot access issues are never moot um Anderson versus Kaleeb Reese was one of them Johnerson where it got adjudicated three years later so we're going to continue all these lawsuits long after the election fighting for everyday people that we all have equal equal right right access to the ballots this is big but when kennedy only did one state and then he ran away he pocketed his 20 million and ran away okay

that's amazing but you know that is that is very very key what you're doing in terms of fighting for ballot access as a principle i said this with all of the back and forth about what happened in 2020 i said you understand that the election is rigged from ballot access and i said if you want to have uh honest elections you got to start with ballot access and then the second thing that you got to do is have debate access. If somebody makes it on the ballot, they need to be on the debate. But then you can talk about all the rest of the stuff. Then you can talk about the machines and the computers and the paper ballots

and how it's counted and all the rest of it. But you've got to get it right at the very beginning with ballot access, and that's why what you're doing is really key. That ballot access fight, that's been one of the key means of controlling our election and shutting it down, keeping people then out of the debate so that no serious issues are discussed. Those things are key. promote because of all the shadow banning right and the influencers out there are all opportunists right but if you look at my credentials educationally you know business-wise creating and fighting standing up for the right things at the right time since the time i was 17 years old you know it's an eight plus plus plus record everyone knows you know in 2020 it was i was the first one to call out the pandemic i was

the first one to run the fire fauci campaign i was the first one to give people solutions on how to beat boost the immune system i was the first one who exposed the machines and how the machines work you know in bare view i was the one in my federal lawsuit i exposed the fact that the government has a backdoor portal into twitter all of these other people Trump was promoting lockdowns yes Kennedy is promoting lockdowns Jill Stein as I call her was promoting lockdowns and was all is also a Zionist and people think she's not a Zionist she was the one who threw Cynthia McKinney and all you Green Party people listen very carefully. The Green Party is a nouveau Democratic Party because now you have a unit party. And the establishment always has to have two heads, David.

They have to have the obvious establishment and then they have to have the not so obvious establishment. So real revolutionaries, real change agents like myself don't fill off a vacuum right they can't have that that's right so now that everyone is aware trump and harris are democrats republicans are one they have to create another scam opposing force it was booby kennedy but we exposed the hell out of him and he ran and he ran back to trump so now they created joe stein and joe Jill Stein promotes the carbon tax scam. The entire Green Party is based on putting people on a new plantation. Yes.

And the Democratic Party elites are the ones who are behind the Green Party. But it was Jill Stein who acts like she's for the Palestinian people. But she's the one who threw out Cynthia McKinney, who is a black woman congressperson in Congress, who, by the way, has endorsed our campaign, and she said she'll be my secretary of state. But Cynthia McKinney is the one who exposed AIPAC, and she was thrown out of Congress. She was the VP candidate with Jesse Ventura in the Green Party. When she came out and she said that perhaps 9-11 was done by Israel and Mossad, Jill Stein called her anti-Semitic and made sure she was banned from the Green Party. Jill Stein is a liberal Zionist.

She just says just enough to fill in that vacuum. So the real discussion about Zionism doesn doesn't take place which is zionism has occupied the united states of america zionism has taken over the christian movement by equating as though saying that if you're a christian zionist that means christian i believe jesus would have whipped all these zionists okay christian zionism is an oxymoron. It's like saying you're Christian devil, Christian Satanism, right? It's how bad it is. So the reason I bring that up, David, we talked about ballot access. That's the front part of where the election fraud begins. The next part is, okay, you get on the ballot. Now they have to restrict you from getting

visibility, which is the debates. Well, obviously the big guys are not going to keep me on but even there's a new alternative debate organization called free and fair elections i fulfilled all the criteria to be on the debate stage but they did not want me on the debate stage with joe stein and their libertarian guy oliver who is polling at zero percent here in massachusetts i'm met one to one and a half percent it's small but I'm higher percentage polling independent polling and they don't want to put me on the debate stage yeah so even these alternative quote-unquote fake anti-establishment organizations which are coming against the unit partyarty are being created by the uniparty to sucker people back so they don't build a bottoms-up movement and that's what you and i talked about david our campaign is recognizes that people need to save themselves that's our slogan

and let me just jump in before we get into that you know we talk about the debates i was contacted by the people running the free and fair election uh debate before it happened to get it promoted and i looked to see who was on it's like well that's not free they don't have uh shiva on there there's uh other people they were running for president that they didn't have on there either and so you know it's like i i just it really is a stickling point with me because i've been involved in third party politics i know how difficult it is to get on the ballot and then they use the ballot as a determination as to who's going to get to get into the debates. And of course, they also throw in their polls, but then they can play all kinds of games with polls. And when we saw this and when I was working with the libertarians in North

Carolina years ago, what they would do is they would say, well, this is a private organization. And that particular time, it was North Carolina Broadcasters Association or something like that that was running. It was the media that was running the debate. And they said, so since it's not being run by the government, we can exclude whoever we want. Now, what did that turn into? We saw, well, it's corporations and corporations can censor anybody that they want to off of social media. It's the same template that they then later superimposed on social media well these are private companies they can do whatever they're private companies who are working with the

government with those particular parties and we know they can outsource the censorship to private they're laundering the censorship that's right for many ways it's worse than it was before because at least before we had some ability for jurisprudence to go after the government that's right for many ways it's worse than it was before because at least before we had some ability for jurisprudence to go after the government that's right now when they outsource it to private companies we don't have that that's right that yeah and that's what missouri versus biden we should talk about it after your break is so critical because missouri versus biden was a really bad lawsuit done by a bunch of morons who purposely concealed the lawsuit when i got in massachusetts it was a conspiracy it was a it was a badly written lawsuit to create the conditions at the

presidential level so therefore justifying that government can in fact censor us using laundering censorship yes and the people who did that lawsuit acted like they were heroes but they intentionally concealed my lawsuit amy coney barrett said there is no direct connection showing that government censored you my lawsuit is that lawsuit they left it out it was almost like these lawyers were colluding with the establishment to take it to the supreme court and fail purposely david now it made it very very difficult for us to prove that government is the one who censored you yes you say it's a horrible lawsuit done by a bunch of morons who intentionally left out my lawsuit which had the evidence and i'm i'm litigating

litigating that separately but the bottom line is this getting back to how the establishment works they know that a bottoms-up movement is going to come with leaders like me bottoms up so they have to create fake leaders top down one of the members of the green party called me up and he said do you know jill stein we were all sitting there suddenly seven people walk in the room and they anointed her to be the party head just an auditor so back room is how all these people work they never ever want to have front on on the front transparent debates i mean i i have more followers than chase oliver like 10 times more more polling at a higher rate than him and he's promoted as a libertarian head when he was promoting the mask mandates he's promoting the lockdowns all of this so the establishment knows there's going to be a bottoms up movement, David.

Yeah, that's right. They know people have figured out Trump and Harris. The people are not only waking up, but getting out of bed. They don't want them to come to our movement. So they're creating these fictitious anti-establishment, a.k.a. Jill Stein, a.k.a. Libertarian Party. These people have sold out people and they're like the next wave.

They're like the next Bernie Sanders. The Libertarian Party lost me in 2020 when the candidate there had absolutely nothing to say. I mean, it was about the lockdowns and all the rest of that. That was Joe Jorgensen. And I knew Joe Jorgensen from 20 years earlier when she was running as a VP for Harry Brown. I couldn't believe that they would take a powder and just not do anything when that lockdown was happening. That was the most insane thing I've ever seen. It's like, what is this about?

What are you guys doing? Is this so that you can get your name on TV or something? What game are you playing with this? And when we look at the Green Party, as you pointed out before, I've always called them the watermelons because they're they got a thin veneer of green and inside they're all red not meaning that they're supporting uh maga but meaning that they're marxist all their policies are are communist about centralized control about taking us into slavery it is absolutely a communist agenda but then they put that thin veneer of green on it yeah we should talk about that david you know i just had a discussion with a friend of mine he's an

electrician works very hard and we're talking about this entire notion of um state capitalism versus real capitalism and socialism okay it's a very very important discussion to have so uh he was saying you know amazon trucks on sunday were delivering stuff to his home using ups united postal service okay which is a postal service that all of us contribute to our tax dollars okay so what is ha and then we had that discussion so you can keep that over here and we're talking about starlink starlink just got two billion dollars pentagon grant to build surveillance systems for us for the government so and then you look at something like dhl and fedex privatization of the Postal Service.

I've spoken about this for many, many years, since 1997. It gets back to this core thing. The government over here has to live up to the Bill of Rights. And if the government censors you, if the government surveils you, you know, the wireless, the wireless wiretapping they did under the Bush administration we have the right to sue the government but if the government brings in a private party gives them the contract to do mail DHL FedEx to do satellites to push their goods out Amazon guess what we as citizens cannot sue they've created a buffer to the government that's right private companies have first amendment rights yeah and this is the fascism that's taking place this is state capitalism yeah it is fascism and it and what they're doing is they're outsourcing

the tyranny you know so when people use the word communism yeah or to describe if the definition of communism is the government and private and private companies have become one that's what china is china is all the leaders of the private companies and the government are in the party so at least in china you know they're fascist and their state capitalism which is a right term it is nowhere near if you read what mar's talked about or the tenets of true socialism and we should talk about that yeah but they conflate that on purpose now in the united states we actually have state capitalism but it's presented to us as democracy and the more we outsource the more the government outsources stuff to private companies and keeps this illusion we actually have chinese like state

capitalism but at least in china they know they're living under fascist state capitalism in the united states people think elon musk is some private entrepreneur no he's a government agent he's a mossad agent that's right yeah public private partnerships whenever they talk about that what you're talking about is a merger between the government and the and and and you're talking about crony capitalism and you're talking about is a merger between the government and the and and and you're talking about crony capitalism and you're talking about corruption and of course the chinese do it and and as you point out they're open about it but here there's this um subtle secrecy where they pretend that that's not really happening and if you look at every company elon musk has all of them explosively grew at the behest of government that's right and and so twitter is like this with

lock stop as a stock barrel with government right section 230 immunity without section 230 immunity twitter would not be considered a platform it would be considered a publisher their valuation drops by a factor of 10. so that's number one so twitter's value why he was able to leverage twitter to make his other wealth right or use it to buy is all comes from the behest of government spacex seven to ten billion dollars subsidies he didn't create any of these rockets all spacex is essentially ex-nasa engineers ex-government engineers working in a private company under the illusion of privacy a private company but now they're building a surveillance system around the earth and then you're going to pay for it so

and keep going on right same with the postal service amazon is using the postal service and making billions so i would argue true quote-unquote socialism true socialism if you wanted to talk about that where we the working people own this infrastructure again because we paid for all this infrastructure now the founders when they created the postal service knew there were certain infrastructure that is like air like water you know we breathe it so the postal service was a very interesting phenomenon david it was the bulwark to ensure the First Amendment took place. Yeah, the Second Amendment is important, but materially, the Postal Service was created

to make sure that I could send you a letter, you could send me a letter, David, and no one would interfere. Free speech equals free reach. So the Postal Service, in their their framework also had their own independent police force a lot of people don't know this separate from your state police your local police area is a postal police force and that police force makes sure that postal employees if they open a letter 22-year sentence in prison so you see if i send you a letter and you believe it was open we can sue the government and we can get restitution now take that over to the world of email if i send you an email on gmail and gmail

opens it i have no you have no right at all all of this communications infrastructure got outsourced electronically and even dhl and fedex through this infrastructure this is very very important for people to understand and i'm the only candidate who talks about this because i understand systems and i value these rights so it even goes back to you know we talk about the fisa court and all the rest of the stuff that that goes back to that because uh from its very inception you had the cia and the the NSA were spying on Americans. And so the church committee hearing looked at this and said, well, you know, this shouldn't be allowed. But the Supreme Court had said, well, if it's AT&T, this government created monopoly, essentially,

if AT&T has your information, they're a private company and they own that information. And so they can turn that over to the government if the government wants and so we see that now propagating through where bank of america if they want to turn over everybody that had a transaction in washington dc around january the 6th they can do that because that's their data and so they have established and this goes back now for about 60 70 70 years, the idea that private companies own information about you and they can buy and sell you and they can turn you into the government.

The government is just a customer. That's right. So this is what's happened. We have created a very sophisticated form of state capitalism. Yeah. Fascism. Under the illusion of the Bill of Rights. so they've created this buffer the government has created now a buffer so we can't go after them and and make them accountable to the bill of rights

etc this is what's dangerous that's occurred so when you play this out this has become the modus operandi for everything so how do we win at this what is the solution so what the those in power have also done they have conflated the words movements work working people's movements with quote-unquote communism to refer to that state capitalism you say yeah so they've really played a head game on people oh you want to build a bottoms-up movement oh that sounds communist you see so the right wing attacks it the left wing has used these terms right oh they weaponize them yeah they weaponize these terms they even like they stole the term liberal you know they used to mean people about freedom and everything yeah yeah so the left wing takes these very important terms about workers movements and they take over them the right wing uses them to attack to brand it as quote-unquote communist fascism

and if you really play this out many of these important infrastructures that we have like the postal service should be public utilities for the public you maybe you have you give a couple of choices you can use the postal service or you can use fedex or dhl you can use gmail or you can use a government version now why would that not the government version but the postal version the people's version why would that be different because if the government opened your email you can sue them you can't sue if gmail opens your email you don't have any restitution at all and the infrastructure that the founders created was a decentralized infrastructure when they created the postal service so many years ago david i said that we should use mesh networks to have the people's network right now when you talked about fisa

four major telco companies own all the communications when warrantless wiretapping took place government was wiretapping u.s citizens without any warrants and then when they got caught in class action lawsuits the government the congress retroactively immunized them you say they passed bill so this is the way that this is going on you have private companies government aka congress and they're always protecting this um say capitalism that's what we have yeah so to me this is why it becomes preeminent we build a bottoms-up movement so in my view david the telecommunication workers at at&t and verizon and all these people who actually do the work that infrastructure at a certain point should be seized as a as a

property of we the people we're the ones who paid for that and the working people not nationalization that's state capitalism but we working people say you know what this is my property get rid of all these executives because when you look at the cost of telecommunications it should be like pennies by now we we have made technologies, made things actually very cheap. When you look at food communications, it should actually be, the cost should be going down,

but because of the nature of monopoly crony capitalism, they actually create artificial supply issues so they can keep the cost high so this is very important actually we can literally have quote-unquote heaven on earth today we have more than enough food we have more than enough community i mean we've created infinite capacity in some ways yes but because of the nature of monopoly capitalism imperialism state capitalism fascism they actually create artificial supply issues so they can keep the cost high yes and this is what's important to understand so my view we must build a bottoms-up movement and we the people must take back this infrastructure which is our infrastructure we paid for starlink we paid for this infrastructure, not the corporations. This is, in many ways, it's like the air, the water. This is public property.

Yeah, you can have your private versions. Great. But you better have a public version so we can hold government accountable. Yes. So the more and more, this is where the libertarian philosophy sort of falls apart because they don't forget. They forget that the government and the private companies have become one so i remember when gary johnson was talking about it and and um you know it was um one of these bakery cases you know in colorado and you got the guy who's now won multiple times

at the supreme court and they came in and said well we want you to make a custom cake for us that is um you know antithetical to your religious beliefs. And presumably, if he had made that cake, they would have taken his face and stuck it down in the cake because that's what they were really trying to do. And I remember Gary Johnson saying, well, libertarian approach is that, yeah, certainly. We don't want the phone company telling people that we don't like your sexual practices or your religious beliefs

or whatever, so we're going to cut off your phone service. I said, well, no, actually, this guy's not a public monopoly that's there. He's not part of the infrastructure. There's other backeries they could go to. And I said, the libertarian position on this ought to be that it would be abhorrent to have the phone company listening to your phone conversations and say i don't like what you're saying and then cut off your service i said that's what we're looking at everywhere you know when all this was happening with him we also had the social media stuff was rolling out and all the first cancellations were happening it's like why isn't the libertarian party aware of this they really have lost uh lost their way in terms of you know focusing on the

constitution liberty well i remember gary johnson that his running mate was bill well drunk and bill well who was a governor in massachusetts who's as as elite as you can get you know it's on fairway street in cambridge right yeah as you know they wanted to have two ex-governors so it was very impressive right and they really didn't care what these guys believed and they were neither one of them about liberty at all so so david i think the other thing i wanted to speak to is you know our campaign now if you go to our social media you know you'll see the infinite amount of shadow banning that's going on but separate from that we're going direct to people we probably we probably put out close to 10 to 20 million of these cards you may have seen on our website i don't know if you've seen those david um i don't know if i could share here

but if you go to our website shiver for present.com they're little cards and the card says save yourself and on the back of the card it has cost of living going up a curve and lifespan going down two inverse curves and then it tells people go to shattertheswarm.com so you can understand how we got here that since 1970 until now regardless of who you voted for cost of living has gone up and lifespan is now going down so the goal is to educate people that the quality of our leaders the quality of the the society that we get is a direct reflection of the decisions we make in our consciousness and we have immense power to do this so this is why i think these free and fair elections you know um pro-establishment people don't want guys like me on the debate stage yeah that's

right they do not want that because we're going to talk about this fundamental issue of breaking from all of this giving the individual infinite power in a sense collectively and individually to build these bottoms-up movements so if you go to our screen right now our ads david are individual our leaders talking about hey there's a there's a video and then these are the people just making the ads the guys out there putting blacktop down matt stoneman and he's saying hey this is why i'm going to vote for dr shiva okay um an electrician a plumber a school teacher those are our multi quote-unquote multi-million dollar ads right we actually have real people David making our videos and putting them out there handing out cards and the future is not going to be online for true opposition forces a future is offline I agree

because they have consolidated power so whenever people ask me about bitcoin david oh my god bitcoin's decentralized no it isn't the infrastructure is all owned by four major telco companies you need massive data centers yes conceptually a blockchain makes sense but all the in-between infrastructure was owned by them. I absolutely agree. Yeah, you're absolutely right. Yeah. And you know, it is so funny because all these other campaigns, they do produce multimillion dollar ads and they hire actors to act like they're everyday people.

But you've got everyday people just doing this on their own and putting it up. Talk a little bit about the swarm. And of course you have shattertheswarm.com where people can get the full spiel about it. But just give people kind of an overview of why you call it The Swarm rather than The Deep State or something like that. Yeah, David, you know, what I want to really, I mean, everyone should go to ShatterTheSwarm.com. Watch it with your family.

I'm not cursing in there. I'm pretty, you know, in my suit and tie and I'm the MIT professor in that model. Okay? so you'll enjoy it okay um it's the it's a very very disney g-rated version but it's very educational but the swarm the reason i call it the swarm is it's it's more about the concept of its disperse the control is dispersed when you use deep state or you use the swamp it gives it or the Roth childs right or you use um XYZ right yeah it or the Masons it gives a location like it's a particular group only and it's localized to some geography or some particular group and and therefore it sets into people's mind if we get rid of that group it's over the reality is a swarm it comes from system science is much more dispersed they're

everywhere yes and if you ever see starlings you know on a twilight flying these birds that fly they look like they're seemingly going in different directions they may even compete but overall they move together they have a they're a swarm like a school of fish you see that together so those in power are like that that's a much more accurate description they may have a Kamala Harris and a Trump right acting like they're against each other but overall when it comes to the real questions of human existence Zionism right they will come together when it comes to the issues of manipulating a billion of us they will come together if there was a war where they're both killing each other but they see us rising up they'll get together and suppress us and that happened during the you know franco-prussian

war the french people were rising up the french and the germans got together and they went back and beat up their own people and then went back to fighting so we want to give this clarity to people that it's a multi-racial aristocracy dispersed all over the world and they have a control system for their survival their goal is to maximize power profit control yes oh and we saw that in 2020 you know everybody's like you know so who's directing all this is it klaus schwab is it uh tedros who's who's right well they were all doing the same thing you know they're moving like a bunch of starlings they were all doing exactly the same thing at the same time, you know. And when I look at it, the way I think about it is autonomous killer robots and how they're talking about using them in a swarm.

That's swarm technology, David. Yeah, that's right. So they have a telepathy. The work of E.O. Wilson talked about how ants work together. They look like they're doing random stuff, but they're actually communicating with 25 different chemical signals. The swarm has its own telepathic communication. They know who are their enemies, and then they have frenemies. Among them, okay, Trump and Harris may be local enemies after January 6th, they're all together again, that's right and then they

go on but during a period of time between around you know january every four years to october they play out this wwe wrestling to entertain people and that entertainment model comes from the edward bernet school of advertising which is we do we want to do sound bites to make the average electorate consumers of information and to be entertained they do not want us to be participants they do not want it to jump in the arena so what is our movement david we're completely changing there we're saying you got to save yourself once you understand the swarm dynamics the only way out of it is you so i did an interview with some guy two days ago and he was asking me just idiotic questions

oh what do you think about trump what do you think about kamala i said look at all the questions you're asking they have nothing to do with you you're not asking anything about what am i going to do and so these people overlord over us and this is so the swarm when you go to shatter the swarm i explain all of this with just a little marker and a chalkboard so everyone can follow it end to end and you can rewind it and watch it and then i explain that the swarm goal is to always make you think they're going to take care of things for you yes outsource your future to them outsource your truth to them outsource your freedom to them outsource your health to them that you don't have to take any personal responsibility that's all booby he's going to do make america healthy again really

i mean this is a guy who said i believe in full vaccination of all americans this is a guy who looks awful when you really look at him has no sense of anything having to do with integrity. He openly tells you personal integrity and public integrity are two different things. Openly tells you that. He says the Palestinians are the most pampered people on the planet. So to the extent he talks about saving children by not putting food color in here, he's absolutely fine bombing them over here. And they have these contradictions. I just covered yesterday a guy that was on social media and he was talking about how his

son who died as an infant sudden infant death syndrome from vaccines and he said i was really in denial about it but you know now i'm i trust rfk jr and he's explaining it to me and i trust that i'm voting for trump because i know he's going to put rfk jr in there and he's going to fix it and it's like wow this guy doesn't know what happened in the last four years ago when uh when trump got in and he doesn't know what what bobby kennedy has been doing with all this stuff it's absolutely insane does he not know booby fucking kennedy excuse me effing kennedy promoted sorry about that believe that i mean i really despise these people they're devils yeah pure devils promoted promoted lockdowns in march of 2020 he said it would save the climate yeah so you have to go back and you

have to look at what did these so-called leaders do when it mattered that's right and compare them to what i did david or what you did you You say people have to really give credit to us. And that's what our movement is trying to do. We're trying to put a mirror up to the average citizen to say, why don't you start respecting you? This is you. You are amazingly delusional and Orwellian that they can hold these mutual. They hate the vaccine, but they love the father of the vaccine and the guy who bragged about it. And you look at the Kennedy and how he's talking about he wants to and the guy who bragged about it. And, and, and you look at the, you know, Kennedy and how he's talking about,

he wants to lock up people who are climate deniers, you know, and then he doesn't ever really pull that back. You know, he just, instead, he says, well, that wasn't what, well, it was what he was saying. You know, he tells you another lie. What I want to know Shiva is when you're going to work and do a shift at McDonald's. I mean, that could really turn this around for you, right? Yeah. I mean, that's the the thing they have to go to extremes i mean how much did he spend he must have spent at least two to three million dollars on the staging of that the security organizing that right yeah well i

mean you can or kamala harris right either one of them i mean you look at my journey david or your journey i grew up in new jersey where i think i've been working since i was 12 years old some job 14 full-time i've never stopped working i work you know uh delivering donuts door-to-door right i work doing landscaping as a child because my you know my parents didn't have money so i've worked all my life but trump has to act as though he's a mcdonald's worker that's right and then you're saying oh my god he's one of us and this is a delusion that our movement is exposing we're putting a mirror up to people's face and saying why do you respect these people why do you have a low value of yourself when you

get up in the morning and you take care of your family you have maybe four hundred dollars in your bank account why are you writing even five ten dollars to these people that's right so our movement in many ways david is about people having dignity for themselves yes that's what i like about that because i look at it and as you point out we're outsourcing our lives to these people we're putting all of our hopes on these people well if only uh trump gets in then he'll put in rfk jr and then they'll fix things so that doesn't happen again like it happened to my son all of these different things and yet you know they won't take control of their life and it is something that they've been trained to do you know you look at the predictive programming of movies i've talked about this

before how the the cia actually had a site where they said hey we got great ideas for scripts you know if you're a writer give it to and they did they had great ideas because it's kind of stuff they're going to pull off but then what happens is we've always got one individual who is a savior and he's going to save everybody that was the most predictive programming of all of these things because and every one of these nightmare scenarios that they're now trying to run on us and every one of them, you had a one man alone hero. Who's going to save us?

Well, of course that's going to have to be somebody who's really rich and powerful like Trump. So they fall for that. Or like Elon Musk's, they fall for that hook line and sinker. And that's really, I think when you look at this delusion about this election and everybody's got all their hopes

pinned on that i think it's really coming from that and it really is sad so i like what you're doing because you're pivoting people to taking uh measures that they can do themselves and to empower themselves and not to make themselves dependent on these distant billionaires who don't care about i played the clip the other day of Michael Keaton, the actor, and of course he was partisan in it, you know, saying, ah, Trump, he doesn't like you and all that. But none of them do. I mean, what he was saying was essentially true if you apply it to all of them. So they don't care anything about you. They're running their own life. And he was right about that. So that's what I like about what you're doing. You're using

this mind control that we call a presidential election, and you're getting people's attention and saying, now you can do things on your own. And I think that's really important. Well, David, we have five people that I've educated, and they've taken it to file their own federal lawsuits. Here we have a guy who does alarm systems control, young kid, 27 years old, in Tennessee. When they took us off the ballot, he filed a lawsuit.

He argued with a federal judge, and he's going to take it to the appellate court. A 70-plus-year-old woman, Rose Cias, who is a schoolteacher, she's doing that in New Jersey independently. We have a medical doctor in Utah doing that. We have a pizza store owner, Frank Marshall, in Wisconsin, who's doing that. So Trump took us, tried to take us off the ballot in Wisconsin, and Kamala Harris took us off the ballot in New Jersey. But these are extraordinary people who come through, they've understood

Shatter the Swarm. They've gone through training. They've collected signatures. They've mobilized people. And now they're learning how to file lawsuits without any lawyers, David. We didn't spend any money on any of this. That's great. Meanwhile, Boobie Kennedy goes and raises $22 million. Trump and Kamala Harris are raising what?

$15 billion? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The amount of money we're talking about is circulating money among the swarm among themselves it's a racket and this money is a wealth transfer from ordinary people they hit with emails all day but the Savior mentality David I think it's a very I've talked about this from the context of Joseph Campbell's work and this is where the real brainwashing goes. When you look at all ancient cultures, and it may even be in our deep psyche, spiritual psyche, of the hero's journey. Yeah. Right? Joseph Campbell identified that in all great stories, that there was always this concept of a hero's journey.

Where someone, and it's really the journey of our own soul. It's not someone else but they have stolen even the hero's journey but the soul goes through this maturation process where you come into this world you're presented with an opportunity to do something heroic initially you don't want to do it then some great teacher comes brings you to the point of wanting to go through life's tribulations you You go through that process. You then maybe suffer. You don't achieve your goals.

And then you come out of that through a resurrection process, and you do something noble for humanity. This is a journey. Now, the story of Christ is a penultimate example of that, right? But the goal was each one of us was supposed to be our own heroes, in a sense, going through that journey. And it may be deeply in us that we're supposed to do that but they even outsource that hero's journey back to them so when hollywood created the movies we're being entertained we're not doing the hero's journey ourselves and so this is the deep manipulation that's

taking place they took campbell's analysis they took this deep deep rooted concept in our own soul's journey and they have outsourced that yeah so they're almost stealing your soul and outsourcing it and you get to watch not you having to do the work but others having to do the work so you vicariously live through them and this is they create a fake hero like elon musk i mean the guy is disgusting human being or fake hero like booby kennedy who tells you personal integrity is not that you can divorce them so he can have 38 relationships with philander with women yeah his wife hangs herself and he can justify it so this is what's going on david they're taking this very powerful deep-rooted essence of what it means to be human which is you're supposed to

go through that journey in your lifetime you're supposed to stand up you're supposed to show integrity you're supposed to be the hero everything is about to pacify people it's to isolate you and to set you in a virtual reality where you are a spectator about everything and they're pretty upfront about that where they want to go with the technocracy and we got a real taste of that during the lockdown i know you just stay where you are and of course you can communicate with other people if you want to through your zoom or whatever but that is it they want to atomize us they want to remove us from the real world from real life they will provide a reality for us whether it's movies or whether it's games or some kind of

virtual reality they will provide the reality so that they can control everything that we do absolutely yeah yeah but i think this essence david of you not have so one is they don't want you to take care of your health they don't want you to take care of your physical mental health they don't want you to get educated but they the deepest issues they don't want you to take care of your health. They don't want you to take care of your physical mental health. They don't want you to get educated. But the deepest issues, they don't want you to go through your own journey at a spiritual level. That's right. To understand your connection with your creator. That's right.

To understand that you must go through this process. We're almost out of time, and I want to get some comments here for you. Judy Wrinkle says, I'm writing Dr. Shiva in on my ballot. I did in the new hampshire primary as well uh sa miller 123 says i'm in iowa dr shiva has my attention i voted not avowed not to vote but he may just change my mind jason barker i would take shiva over our two current choices i can't vote this time around uh audi modern retro radio says finally somebody is exposing that elon musk is not the self-made mogul musk is a government mascot like that we always talked about him as

the king of crony capitalism about a decade ago the la times called him the king of crony capitalism exactly he's just like zuckerberg i agree dga david can you ask dr shiva how it's legal for trump to take money from elon musk has taken over $5 billion from China? Isn't that a threat to national security? And, of course, that's part of the corruption that we have these political action committees where you've got one donor, right? Elon Musk, yeah. So that is amazing to see that every one of your viewers listening David and everyone out there understand that there is a growing group of people who are very intelligent and

they come from all different backgrounds David if you look at the quality of people that and every Thursdays at 11 a.m and 8 p.m everyone's invited I do it's a long day because we have people from Europe and Asia and people from the United States you go to va shiva.com orientation sign up because it's an opportunity for you not to feel alone because what happens David is as people raise their consciousness they feel there's no one else around them and the consciousness raising here is is to understand that there's no one coming to save us that's right we have to take personal responsibility that's right and we can move three to five percent of the people vibrating at that consciousness state but it's over we don't it's like we don't need weapons

at that point that's right and we saw that in the lockdown everybody thought well i'm the only one that realizes that this is a fraud no it wasn't they worked that very hard to keep people isolated so that's very important and uh again uh maybe the best site to go to is to shatter the swarm.com or v yeah so for the campaign go to shiva for president.com you can get our cards hand them out to get a real understanding where you want to start and really solve this for yourself go to shatter the form.com if you really want to solve this problem if you want to be on the path so you don't feel deluded and you know nihilistic shatter the swarm gives you what the problem is then you've created a course david where people

can actually get off the plantation free okay and then people can connect with these global communities and then really become what we call a truth freedom health warrior scholar they understand the physics and then we get people on the ground good talk to their neighbors that's what this is about no one is coming to save us save yourself well dr sheva's on the ballot and all but uh you can write him in uh at the very least uh in all but four states uh some of the states you'll see him on the ballot and uh of course this is not going to be over with the election uh that's not getting an ending of life it's going to continue to go on and so you can go to shiva for president.com uh va shiva or you can go to shatter the swarm we'll put all those in the link for the interview for you thank you so much for joining us and thank

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