The David Knight Show - INTERVIEW Dr. Shiva — A Different Kind of Presidential Campaign

Episode Date: June 9, 2023

Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai, Shiva4President.com and TruthFreedomHealth.com, joins to talk about his independent campaign to direct people to a bottom-up revolution against the entrenched establishmentFind out more about the show and where you can watch it at TheDavidKnightShow.comIf you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-showOr you can send a donation throughMail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @[e-mail] App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Money is only what YOU hold: Go to DavidKnight.gold for great deals on physical gold/silverFor 10% off Gerald Celente's prescient Trends Journal, go to TrendsJournal.com and enter the code KNIGHTBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.

uh dr shiva ayyadurai of mit phd inventor of email a scientist inventor entrepreneur fulbright scholar who has four degrees from mit including his phd in biological engineering he has started seven successful high-tech companies providing thousands of jobs in massachusetts and so when we get him back my first question is going to be so why are you successful high-tech companies providing thousands of jobs in Massachusetts. And so when we get him back, my first question is going to be, so why are you running for president when you've had so many other things that you've been able to do? But also where you can find him, we're going to be talking about the presidential race that he's doing

as an independent. And that is also going to be an interesting thing. But anyway, Shiva,President.com. Shiva4President.com. TruthFreedomHealth.com is another one of his websites. And Vashiva, V-A-S-H-I-V-A.com is also another one of his websites. We have Reverend Bill1960 says that Aldi may have been one of their checkout free grab and go stores. Yeah, it might have been. The thing is though, that everybody's trying to go

cashless and they're trying to go with ID. And that's going to be one of the key things that we have to try to build awareness for. Certainly people over 40, as I pointed out the other day, understand the issues involved in that. But when you look at the millennials, when you look at generation X, Y, Z, they don't have any problem with the government even putting in cameras in their home and watching them around the clock. And of course, many people have done this with the Amazon door cameras and things like that. It's one of the reasons why you get so many interesting and funny videos on YouTube, because people have these cameras going on all the time. And a lot of people have been pressured by local law enforcement to turn over their feed of their ring camera or these other cameras to

turn it over to law enforcement because they're viewable from, you know, if you got them hooked up to the internet, you can see what's going on in your home when you're not there. But then of course, they can turn this over to the government or the government can just invite itself in. You know, that's the other issue that they don't think about. All right. Dr. Shiva is back now. Thank you, Dr. Shiva for coming on. It's been quite a while since we've talked. I've already introduced you and given your bio. Uh, welcome. Welcome. How are you doing, David? It's been a while. When was the last time we spoke? I forget now. Oh, it's been, uh, I've had the show now for a couple of years and I think it was a couple of

years before I left, uh, InfoWars since we talked. Uh, so a lot of things have happened and I talked about your long resume. Tell us a little bit about why you're running. You've got all these other things in the fire. Why are you running for president? Well, David, the number one reason I'm running for president is because the problems that America faces are very fundamental systems issues. We need a systems overhaul. And the only kind of people that are going to be able to solve that are people who actually come from people and actually care about the suffering of the american people and who have a systems approach to solving these problems the democrats and republicans uh i

would argue since the last 70 years have been colluding together against the american people one of the when i first launched our campaign, David, the main thing that I shared was this very interesting graph. And the graph basically plots over the last, you know, 40, 50 year period, the life expectancy of all the industrialized nations. All right, and then it averages it into one solid gray line starting from 1980 to the present. America's life expectancy rate is going this way. All the other nations are going straight. And this is not something that's because of COVID or the vaccine. It has to do with a history of policies that go back,

starting in the Kennedy administration, which got consolidated in 1970s with all sorts of fundamental issues. And we'll talk more about that. But the end result is that the policies of both Republicans and Democrats have resulted in the fact that if you're an American, your child will live younger than you. And this is quite devastating. And it is a very fundamental graph that no one else wants to talk about david because it exposes all of these politicians it exposes all the academics that it

exposes all the university presidents all the quote-unquote talking heads all the celebrities all of these people who've been part of this institutional framework that has resulted in this very important result i mean if you running an organization, you see a graph like that, you need to have a systems overhaul. It's not any one issue. It's a systemic issue of a number of interconnected issues that go back to the corruption of science, go back to the fact that doctors have essentially been made to be data entry operators. You can go down the list of things that's involved, but it fundamentally exposes the fact that those in power don't give a damn about the american people and and the reason david is all of them

running come from one of them they come from the elites so to overnight say and this is why you see people like i call them booby effing kennedy robert kennedy talk a good game, or Elon Musk. And all of these people talk from five sides of their mouth because they have trained people that they can say whatever they want, that they don't never have to walk the walk. They can say one thing and people just believe them because they come from above. And that's the fundamental thing that needs to be shattered, David. And I think the American people deserve one of them. They need people who actually worked hard, came bottoms up and weren't given, you know, things by their parents and never really had to work for anything, never had to be accountable for mistakes that they made in their lives. So that's where I'm running, from what I call a systems perspective.

That's right. Yeah. And of course, that's the important part, I think, about the campaign for presidency. We have such a massive bureaucracy in Washington. But when you have the campaign for presidency, if you've got some people who are going to talk about things that are outside the normal approved topics, that's what people need to be able to hear. We need to be able to open up the lines of discussion. And of course, that includes things like being able to get in debates. We can talk about that later as well. But it's the fact that they will always talk about the same safe subjects and take the same safe positions. You know, Dr. Shiva, when we look at what is happening on the internet now, you know, I go back often and talk about how you had a geospatial intelligence agency started

being created in the 1990s as bandwidth went up, they seemed to go in and pick the people who were going to be allowed to compete, just as we see in politics. They would give venture capital funding. The CIA even came out in the open and gave venture capital funding to certain companies and then let them compete. They had an honest competition to see, you know, may the best person win here. But they had already picked the people who were going to help them,

you know, put this stuff out and run it for free for a few years, get everybody into that system, and then close the doors on this walled system. And that's really where we are. We've had closed doors on this walled system of politics for a long time, haven't we? Yeah, David, it's a very important point you make, and this is where Musk comes in. Musk has presented himself as a fighter for free speech when he's directly the opposite. And I want to sort of walk that through with you because I was at the center of that fight for free speech, David. If you may remember in September of 2020, I forget the last time we spoke, but you remember in September, you know, I ran for a Senate first against Elizabeth Warren in 2018.

We were the ones who forced her to take that DNA test. It wasn't Trump. It was our efforts that did that. We put up tens of thousands of signs with that great slogan, which said only the real Indian can defeat the fake Indian. And it was really exposing her integrity. It took off. And we hammered her at this fact that she has no integrity.

She's actually a racist because she uses race for her political advancement. Anyway, and at that time, you would have thought the Republicans would have embraced us. They didn't. So we ran as independents. And then in 2020, I gave the Republicans an opportunity. I ran for primary as the Republican candidate. And we had 3,000 volunteers, David, all over Massachusetts. We raised $2 million in a primary, all $5, $10 donations.

And we had close to 3,000 volunteers on the ground. You couldn't get out of Massachusetts without seeing our billboards, 25,000 lawn signs, you know, 10,000 bumper stickers everywhere. The Republican GOP finds a fool to run against me who maybe had one lawn sign, literally, David. Now on September primary day, 2020, the word on the street was Dr. Shiva is going to win by a landslide. All right. And lo and behold, as the results come in, I win in Franklin County in Massachusetts, where all the ballots are primarily hand counted. And I win there by 10 points. And in every other county, I lose 60-40, 60-40, 60-40, 60-40. All those other

counties have these machines. Now, I had never, ever thought there was fraud in US elections. I thought that only occurs in third world countries. And so what was interesting was, here I have four degrees from MIT. I've studied electrical engineering. I built these systems and I really started understanding these election machines. And what I found out within a very few days, and I stayed up day and night studying the manuals of these systems, that when a paper ballot goes through these machines, an image is taken, an image of that ballot, and it is the AI on the machines which looks for the dots. So the AI calculates your votes based on the image. According to federal law 52 USC 20701, which was

passed by a Democrat majority 50 years ago, all records in connection with a federal election are supposed to be preserved for 22 months. So I naively go to the Secretary of State's office with one of our volunteers who was filming it, and he says, you know, we would like the ballot images, all right? And we file a formal FOIA, and they have 10 days to respond to that FOIA. And they arrogantly say, oh, we don't have to save those images. We deleted them, okay? But the reality is that's a violation of federal law. Anyway, 10 days later, I never get my response.

So I say, hey, you're supposed to respond to me. And the Secretary of State's legal counsel says, oh, we don't need to save ballot images. And I go, can you show me the law? And they send me a manual for the machines, which has nothing to do with it. I said, look, you have violated federal law. Now, those four emails, David, that I have, they're admitting they deleted ballot images. And we had moved this very powerful ground campaign on September 20th to a write-in campaign. And we put out two million flyers all over Massachusetts. That's the level of ground force we had,id saying stop election fraud so our campaign moved from these very fundamental policies to that now what's interesting is when i put up that tweet sharing and you have to add close to 300 000 followers on twitter i would do a tweet david it would get 30 000 retweets my engagement was quite profound because i had which i came to find later was a very powerful technique i would do a tweet and then lead people to these long form, very educational videos. And you have to remember in March of 2020, I was the first guy to call out Fauci as a systems biologist. I said,

the guy should be fired. The guy should be indicted while Robert Kennedy was promoting lockdowns. Okay. Robert Kennedy was promoting strict lockdowns and promoted and lockstep and barrel with Fauci because it would save the climate, okay? Robert Kennedy at that time had endorsed Hillary Clinton three times, Ms. Vaccine Mandate Queen and Ms. Monsanto Queen. He had also endorsed his own nephew, who was a Democrat, also was for strict vaccine mandates.

So Robert Kennedy's full of crap, okay? And people need to understand that Kennedy's, and we'll come back to this, historically have been mafia. They have their own internal fights with the elites, but they've done very good PR, good camera angles to make them look like they are Camelot, right?

But when they are completely part entrenched in the system. But anyway, I was exposing all of this in 2020, using my knowledge as a scientist, as an engineer. I could see Fauci was a fraud back then. I wrote to Trump in March 23rd of 2020, said, please fire this guy. And I gave Trump a letter, an immune protocol that he should do that did not deserve lockdowns. You support the American public through proper support like vitamin D3, quercetin, zinc. By the way, I didn't make a penny off that. A number of people took those protocols and they made a lot of money, but we helped millions of people. So all that had already happened, David,

in March of 2020, right? And we had already helped people. But now, not only had I exposed Fauci by then, not only had I exposed the issues with the pandemic, not only had we called out these things when it mattered, but now here in September 2020, I get thrown off Twitter. Why? Because I shared, I said the government of Massachusetts violated federal law, they deleted ballot images. 2020, this fact-checking organization in a sort of a blessing in disguise, they said, oh, we called up the Secretary of State's office of Massachusetts. Remember, I'm running as a U.S. Senate federal candidate. And they said the

Secretary of State's office said that they had contacted Twitter to throw off Dr. Shiva. Now, think about what I'm saying. The government of Massachusetts had called Twitter to throw off a Senate candidate. And I knew I had a First Amendment case. I didn't know enough about election law. So no lawyer in Massachusetts wanted to take on Secretary of State Bill Galvin, who's known as the Prince of Darkness. The guy's been in that role for 40 years, controls everyone. Well, because I actually care about the First Amendment, I came from a country that doesn't have that. The Commonwealth countries don't have that. So I had to file my own lawsuit, David. I had to learn PACE law, and I had to file a lawsuit,

and I had to file a preliminary injunction. And the judge gave us our hearing, which is very hard. Judges typically don't like to give PI hearings, right? Preliminary injunction hearings. So that was set for October 15th. I wrote a letter to Tucker Carlson. I said, Tucker, as a U.S. Senate candidate, I was thrown off. You should cover this. It's a large lawsuit.

It's an important one. Nothing. Silence. Anyway, I go into court it's me against three um three harbor trained lawyers and myself and the judge federal judge it's in federal court we are cross-examining the social media director and we're asking her how did you decide to throw me off twitter what was the procedure you followed oh we we saw him we saw dr shiva putting up this tweet the judge said well what did you think about that oh we we saw him we saw dr shiva putting up this tweet

the judge said well what did you think about that oh we didn't like what he was saying what did you do next oh we have a special portal into twitter the partner support portal he goes what's that he goes oh when we put when we put when we report we get vip treatment essentially and so the judge said you know i'm sitting under a under a picture of Louis Brandeis, one of the biggest proponents of the First Amendment. Had you ever thought of responding to his tweet with your own speech? Why did you call the government on him? You do understand he's a U.S. Senate candidate. And they said, oh, we hadn't thought about that. Anyway, the judge was appalled. He gave me all the terms of my PI. He orders the Secretary of State no longer to call Twitter. And he says, you will refrain from interfering. If you have

anything you don't like, you will go on Twitter and debate him. Anyway, I don't get put back on until November 4th, right after the election. For 39 days where I had used Twitter to raise $2 million bucks i was off the most important political platform when i get back on november 4th i start by the way you also may remember during that time i had done the michigan analysis i'd done arizona analysis i became sort of the election mathematics guy showing all these problems didn't make a penny off of it david right trump started using election fraud and raised a half a billion using all of my material yeah we didn't make a penny

off of that all right but the bottom line is that i keep between november 4th to february 1st i talked about all sorts of issues against vaccine mandates the election election systems. And then February 1st, I put up a tweet once again showing those four emails, exposing the Secretary of State. Boom, I'm deplatformed within 17 minutes of showing those images permanently. I go into federal court again. And I say, Your Honor, they didn't hold up your order. And he says, in order for me to give you restitution, you must bring Twitter into my courtroom. Now, this is a historic case.

So it's now me against the Secretary of State, three lawyers. And I also discovered an organization called the National Association of State Election Directors, who had also contacted Twitter. They represent the force of all the secretaries of state, David. Okay. And they had used Twitter. So they were also a defendant. And now Twitter is a defendant. Anyway, end of May was that hearing.

So now it's me against seven lawyers. Wow. Again, no lawyer wanted to take this on. What happens at that hearing was the night before that hearing, I find three very important documents initially on a server in England, and then on the Harvard Belfer School server. And these documents are playbooks, David. They are actual playbooks, which lay out step-by-step methods, how the US government will censor US.S. citizens, developed at the Harvard Kennedy Belfer School, the Kennedy Belfer School, right?

And these documents, and the head of the Defending Democracy Project was a guy called Robbie Mook, who was Hillary Clinton's former campaign manager, but not only the Democrats, Republicans and Democrats. And these documents laid out how you will identify an influence operator domestically, people who are critiquing the government, how you will blacklist them. And so when I go into court the next morning, I hold up this document. I had to do my opening statements. There must have been about a thousand people because that was when Zoom hearings were taking place during the lockdowns. i said your honor all of these defendants have lied to you because the front page of this document was

written by twitter legal by harvard and all the defendants in this case you know in three years ago they had put together a document how would they will silence speech of americans silently by laundering censorship the government would launder censorship through these backdoor portals. The judge is appalled. He says, I got to read this. It was only supposed to be a two-hour hearing. It goes on for the next day. He comes into the next hearing and he goes, I went through Dr. Shiva's documents. He goes, this case will go down in history and will be taught in every constitutional law class. This guy's a Harvard, Yaleale you know trained you know judge and uh again mind you i had told tucker carlson and glenn greenwald and aclu they did nothing that's right because they're arrogant they and they're i

believe they're all part of the intelligence establishment they do limited hangouts only putting out news either drives them popularity but they surely did not want to drive me views and hits because i'm independent of the left and the right and the judge says i have the right to appoint you a constitutional lawyer because you've done amazingly well on your own the head of wilmer and hale twitter's vice twitter uses wilmer and hale one of the leading firms in the world and the vice chairman of wilmer and Hale, one of the leading firms in the world. And the vice chairman of Wilmer and Hale said, we don't believe he wrote his lawsuit briefs. They're too good. Okay. And I haven't gone to law school, but I had figured out how to write pretty good briefs.

And this was before chat GPT even. This was before chat GPT. I had to actually do the work. Now, remember, David, I am doing stuff, exposing election stuff. I did the signature verification analysis for arizona carrie lake should have followed it then all these grifters stayed silent they didn't they don't do what needs to be done at the right time because they watch which way the wind blows and they see if they can make money off of it that's the key that's the money yeah yeah the money so 2020 march

of 2020 where was booby effing kennedy nowhere to found. He waited a year and a half to plagiarize all my material and then write the stuff against Fauci. But he was lockstep and barrel with Fauci's lockdowns in 2020. And everyone should look this up. Kennedy's speak from left and right sides of the mouth. They are the epitome of the not so obvious establishment. And they use this Kennedy name to manipulate the masses. It's got to end. And here you saw Trump didn't do really anything against election systems integrity. You know, two years later, he said, oh, I want to thank Dr. Shiva. I met with Trump and I said, why did you endorse a guy in Massachusetts who fundamentally was the one who cheated my own election.

But Trump is also about making money. He made a half a billion dollars of election systems fraud. And this is what people need to wake up to. But anyway. And to the extent that, you know, we had a lockdown election, right? Why did we have a lockdown? Why did he persist in that? And that's why we had that additional new form of corruption with the paper ballots

and all the rest of this stuff. Yeah, it truly is a deputized state. You know, when you're talking about the ballots being disappeared, the same thing happened in Texas with local elections. And we had somebody who ran for local office and they said, well, according to the Texas Constitution, you're supposed to keep an image of all these ballots. And we had the guy who, the Republican, who ran the State Board of Elections there, somebody who used to work at the Rose Law Firm with Hillary Clinton, the Republican governors brought him in to run the elections. And he would send out a message every election to all of the boards of elections in every county saying, destroy the records. Why would you do that when it's in the Constitution that you've got to have it in there? Making sure that they don't do it.

Yeah, it's a 22-month principle. The bottom line, David, is you find out that there are fundamental systems issues and there's the swarm of elites, which includes a collusion of the top 100 university professors. So there is a conspiracy, but the problem is the conspiracy theorists don't understand that they think it's one person right oh the Rothschilds here or this religious group here Etc it is a swarm no different than a bird swarm flying swarm intelligence so they have the top 100 academic uh University professors they have the top 100 leaders of the biggest NGOs right they have the top uh 100 investment bank uh and advisors from uh you know Jamie Diamond Etc right they have the top 100 investment bank and advisors from Jamie Dimon, etc.

They have the Hollywood agents. They have the influencers now, the Joe Rogans, the Tucker Carlsons. All of these people are chosen, and they all collude together in one framework. And the front end of this collusion is the obvious establishment, like the McConnellconnells and the clintons which they just hammer people and when they can't do that they have the not so obvious establishment which are the kennedys which are the trumps and you go down the list they all say the right things but when you actually look at materially at their actions they have learned to say one thing and do another i'm going to drain the swamp well you brought the swamp in okay I'm

gonna lock her up well you didn't do that right you your own followers got locked up that's right he took money from Pfizer so the bottom line is and same with Kennedy Kennedy in fact speaks from 10 sides of his mouth and that's what he does all day long and our campaign is exposing this because we were in the trenches doing the work while these guys were bullshitting people david i agree when you follow that entire process through and i want to get to musk is that so here in may we've exposed that the government has a backdoor portal we've told all the major tucker carlson and glenn greenwald the ace they did nothing either they were jealous because we broke the story they didn't want to give us abuse or they're part of the intelligence network where they release stories when it doesn't matter. In 2020, it mattered that

you covered the story. Just like it mattered you talked about indicting Fauci in 2020, not like Rand Paul who waited a year and then used our fire Fauci hashtag. We came up with, I collected 120,000 signatures, David. We drove them down to trump in our rickety old school bus when the lockdown we delivered it to him marla maples took my letter and said do not fire this guy follow this immune protocol we don't need to shut down the entire country vitamin d3 quercetin zinc boost people's immune system trump didn't do. He had all the information in front of him. Oh, he played a clown to Fauci's straight man. You know, he'd say stuff like, well, maybe we can inject sunlight in.

And Fauci's like, oh, I'm the expert here. You don't know anything about it. It was like a stand-up routine with Abbott and Costello. It's crazy. David, it's theater. And these people know they're playing theater. And if you think about it. But let me just finish the, the lawsuit thing, because it

gets quite profound. Sure. So the, the judge then appoints me a constitutional lawyer. And that's when I should have realized it was a honeypot. The constitutional lawyer was supposed to brief up my cases and all the signals from the court were, they were going to put me back on Twitter. And remember in my lawsuit, it wasn't just getting back on Twitter. It was also that I wanted the government in their personal capacity, the Secretary of State, to be sued for damages. And I had figured out the case law to overcome qualified immunity.

Well, anyway, in June, July is when I'm supposed to present my case to the judge. Okay, with this new constitutional lawyer, a guy called Howard Cooper. Well, what ends up happening is three days before the briefs are due, Cooper tells me, oh, Shiva, you're going to become one of the biggest heroes, the first guy back on Twitter, drop all your claims against the government. I go, what are you talking about? I said, you haven't briefed this?

No. He goes, well, it's my way or the highway. So I fire Cooper. And in three days, Davidid he had seven weeks i had to put together nearly 2 000 pages of memorandum of law myself wow so i go into court and it was a setup that what the judge flipped he just wanted to put me back on twitter toast their martinis and martha's vineyard and say you know we got this rabble rouser isn't it it great? We all defended the First Amendment, but they wanted me not to go after the government. I refused. He wanted to censor me, throw me in jail. And he forced me to file the case just with one claim, which I did. But I got a very,

very important diagram in there, David. If people go to winbackfreedom.com and that diagram essentially exposed the entire censorship network the omidyars the zuckerbergs all the people who funded it all the players and matt taibi and all the twitter files guys stole my stuff two years later never cited my work and they rebranded it the censorship industrial complex was my work wow so so this was a limited hangout that they did two years later so anyway in october of 2022 i'm sorry december 20 october 2022 when musk buys twitter i i'm still on facebook and i say hey elon are you going to remove the backdoor portal that government has to twitter the next day david the, the Intercept drops a story saying, oh, my God, DHS is involved

with social media companies. Well, it was a complete limited version of what I had put. DHS was one of the players. Tucker Carlson then has Fang, who was a writer at the Inter on and goes oh my god isn't this amazing how did we miss this well i have the emails that i've sent to tucker he missed it not only did he miss it but he concealed the actual story and then he promotes the intercept which gives a limited version of it this is a cia technique called the limited hangout yes you and then so i exposed that the next day i'm put back on um uh eventually i put back on twitter on december 20th and i think they were trying to buy me david so i

get back on twitter and everyone can watch the tweet feed and i said hey elon if you want truly free speech you look like you're looking for ceo i'm willing to be your CEO. That tweet goes viral, David. It gets 20 million views. Wow. All right. Major newspapers picked it up. You can go, you just go look at it. I adore a CEO Twitter. You'll see all these hits. And then after that, I started hitting Musk. I said, are you going to remove that backdoor portal? Are you going to remove that backdoor portal? Clayton Morris, who was at redacted in a big twitter spaces event uh where musk is there with about a couple hundred thousand people he says hey dr shiva's lawsuit elon exposed that there's a backdoor portal into twitter how do you reconcile with that of your position wanting

to be a free speech absolutist are you aware of this what are you going to do so musk's act stupid he goes oh that sounds like big brother. I'll get back to you on that. That was in December 20th of 2022. The scumbag doesn't do anything. And all of these conservatives suddenly are promoting Musk as though he's some free speech fighter. And what is really going on, David, and I wrote a blog page on this, is Musk is a government front man for the United States and China, any government. That's what he is. And you have to look at the facts.

They're right in front of us. SpaceX, $5.7 billion from government. All those Starlink satellites, all those permits don't just happen overnight, okay? You are cahoots with government. Tesla, during the pandemic, the guy made 600 billionaires made $2.3 trillion. He became the biggest billionaire, the most wealthiest man during the pandemic. How did Tesla get profitable? They were not worth 600 billion. They weren't worth anything until they got carbon tax credits from government carbon tax credits. So he's lockstep and bow the climate change scam. He thinks Greta Thornburg is great. And using carbon tax credits, they move from negative

profitability to about a billion dollars in profitability. They get a 600x on valuation. Suddenly he's worth 600 billion. Again, government linkage. Now finish up with Twitter. And this is something very few people understand. I've had to explain this in the most succinct way I can tell you. You have a publishing company like the New York Times, and you have social media platforms. A newspaper reporter of the New York Times writes something, say David kicks his dog all day, you can sue the New York Times. They don't have indemnity. Because of that liability, if the New York Times makes a billion dollars in revenue, they're only worth about two billion in value, two times on a good day, two times a revenue. A social media company, if they make a billion dollars in revenue, they get 10 times valuation. There were 10 billion.

So when Twitter made five billion in revenue, they get a $50 billion valuation on Wall Street. Why? Why does a social media company valued at 10x and a New York Times is valued at 1x? Simple reason. Congress and Silicon Valley colluded to create what was called Section 230 immunity, which allows social media companies never to be sued. So if I post on Twitter, David kicks his dog, you can't sue Twitter. Okay? So that indemnity allows them to have this higher valuation. Now in return for that, Congress and CISA struck a deal with all these social media companies. You will give us backdoor access so we can censor people.

And that censorship architecture is what i discovered in my lawsuit that the way they censor it they have a backdoor clearinghouse the clearinghouse was created by pierre omidyar it's all documented this is uh who was the former head of ebay who bought paypal from musk and peter thiel that backdoor portal allows government to let this non-profit center for internet security know oh dr shiva's saying something take him out they then report to twitter government can say we didn't do it it's laundering censorship it's a term i came up with in my lawsuit so fundamentally i had exposed this backdoor portal and i didn't let up david. I kept hitting Musk over and over and over again. And if you look at my tweet visibility in December, I used to get 500,000 views per day. And as I increase my tweets attacking Musk, my visibility goes down like this from 500,000 views to 300,000 views to 100 000 views now is it 5 000 views david for guys got 330 000 followers

and dropping they eat away my followers on an algorithmic way so what musk has done is he's doing censorship 10.0 jack dorsey just took you out for certain issues musk gives the illusion that he he put guys like me back on but he has us in a digital cage where your voice doesn't go out anywhere. He has said free speech does not equal free reach. This is a complete rewriting of what the founders actually wanted free speech to be. And so this guy's dangerous. And the most disgusting people are the conservative grifters. And you can see it. People like Dinesh D'Souza people like James Woods all these people are ass-kissing to Musk because they want views I saw it in front of them I have it all videotaped in fact documented Musk when the WEF CEO got brought in then people said oh my god Dr. Shiva's right

look he just screwed us he brought in a woman who's with a WEF executive who's pro-vaccine mandate, pro-mask mandates. And when he brought that person in, James Woods, you know, tries to be very snarky. He says, oh, I guess the party's over, you know? And I said, James, the party never began. That's right. A couple of months ago, I put up a tweet and I was surprised because I'm so shadow banned. You know, I've got like, what is that? I don't even, 133,000 or something like that. But they keep it flat. It'll go up over the weekend.

And then when they come back on Monday or whatever, it drops off. Everything happens always like that. And they've kept me at this plateau and, of course, limiting my visibility. But I was surprised Matt Drudge put a link to my tweet up. I was like, what is going on? Left it up there for a couple of days. So I'm pretty much burned. But what I said was, you know, this is all just, Musk hasn't done anything.

It hasn't changed except maybe to get worse. And he's brought back a few high-profile people as a beard. And that's all that's really going on here. And I agree with you. You know, you call it, I like your term. I like laundering censorship. I call them the deputized state. Everybody talks about the deep state. Well, these are their deputies. They work on their behalf. I call them the deputized state. Everybody talks about the deep state.

Well, these are their deputies. They work on their behalf. I mean, that's what's happening. Yeah, and they get paid handsomely to do that. Now, what's interesting, David, is they, in order to cover up the true findings of my lawsuit, they did the Twitter files, which is a complete bullshit. Okay? Okay. Because it never, if you notice the intercept and Twitter never exposed the people who are actually the funders, people like Pierre Omidyar, they cleverly leave them out. And then what I've noticed is this is the way these guys work. It's a very interesting

intelligence formula. First, when guys like me, independent journalists expose the truth, they conceal it and they hope it goes away then when it doesn't get concealed they do a limited hangout which is a cia technique they release a manicured version of that story and they try to take ownership for it like the intercept which is a total intelligence operation the intercept was started by pierre omidyar and pierre omidyar is the one who created the center for internet security think about this and fang neveroses that, that their boss is the one who created the censorship infrastructure. So they do a limited hangout. And then when the story is going to come out too much, then they try to own the story. Oh, we're the guys who released the truth,

not this guy, Dr. Shivaya Dure. We did it. Give us the honors. And that's called total plagiarism. So they have it down to a science, David. The they had david as a guy like me is alive we're exposing it and now we have close to 400 million people all over the world who know about all the videos i did they did get out and we've also created a movement now david called truth freedom health the truth freedom health movement says all these movements for fighting for our health fighting for good science fighting for fighting for freedoms all have to come together. You can't have the yoga people here saying, oh, I'm going to take care of my body and the nerves talking about innovation and the freedom people saying, I want my guns. All these movements have got to come together. Why? Because without freedom, the fundamental force of movement of information, matter, and energy freely, you

cannot do great science. Science demands the ability to have open discourse. And only with great science, truth, and freedom can you figure out what's right for your health. And when you have health, you have the wherewithal to fight for freedom and truth. So the truth, freedom, and health movement now, we have close to about 400,000 people in over 100 countries. And what I'm doing, David, I'm teaching people system science, system thinking, not this reductionist way of looking at the world beyond left and right. And it is the only force that's going to change the world because the elites take very complex situations and they reduce it to one line, you know, Edward Bernays type advertising models. And then they have their Bobby Kennedy's booby Kennedy is what he really

should be called or Trump or, you know, they found a brown guy like this guy vibe right they have to find if you notice there's been a lot of brown people that they found to take away um this guy jay bhattacharya suddenly this doctor look at him he was promoting lockdowns and then suddenly he's going the other way so all of these mds they want to try to get credit now. They're saying stuff against Fauci. Well, you profited from being silent in 2020, and now you're profiting from lecture tours in 2022 and 2023. So what I urge people to do is, it's not the obvious establishment, David, that's the enemies of the people. It's the not so obvious establishment. It's the Tucker Carlson's. It is the Ruby Kennedy's.

It is the Trump's because they keep people. They say just enough. Yes. And they and they have their marketing people figuring out all the buzzwords. But you look at Kennedy. We have a video that I expose him in 2020. I had to do the dirty work and exposing Kennedy. I lost 20 percent of my followers.

All these wealthy, bougie women who keep giving him money. What was Kennedy who endorsed Hillary Clinton three times. Not once, not twice, but three times. He endorsed his nephew, as I said, who was pro-vaccine mandate. We have a video where he says, I am pro-vaccine mandate. I am for full vaccination of all Americans. I vaccinated all my kids. And then he goes on with his other mouth to say, oh, the CDC is so corrupt, but I'm going to get them to make safe vaccines.

You see, this is all bullshit on Ukraine. The guy says, yeah, we are in Ukraine for the right reasons. We shouldn't be there for regime change. This is classic liberal imperialism. Right. The Republicans like Goldwater in Vietnam said, yeah, we need to bomb the hell out of the Vietnamese. The LBJs and the liberal elite said, well, we need to do it this way. They basically tell people how to screw other people so they can swallow the bitter pill.

And this is the evil of people like Kennedy. This is the evil of these liberal imperialists because they take advantage of people. So our campaign, David, is fundamentally systems changing, because what we're saying is when you look at that simple graph and you put it together, that one graph that since 1980, Americans life expectancy is going like this. It makes it so clear. It doesn't matter what any of these guys say. They're eating organic food. They get the best insurance. They get the best insurance they get the best health care but everyday people if you're an american your son or daughter is going to live less than you and that is the most important thing to recognize that all of these people are professional bullshitters they're professional theater and the only people you can trust ultimately is one of you did this guy does does he walk the walk i definitely do do. I've been 100% right without any arrogance. You look at the predictions I made, they've been on target. Why? Because I

take a scientific systems approach. And I'm telling you right now that the biggest thing that people need to recognize right now is that these people who are running for office right now, they're all one group of people. They all work together. Elon Musk is part of that. And one of the most dangerous things that's taking place right now is the fact that the life expectancy of Americans is going downward. And the only way forward is a systems overhaul, because it's not any one thing. And so what we've been doing on our campaign, David, is we have a six-part platform. And guess what? Our platform doesn't say, oh, elect me, and then I'm going to do this. So every Thursday, David, we take an issue, and we're rotating it to healthcare. What's our position on healthcare? I can talk about GPOs,

PBMs, but even simpler, you got to boost your immune system. And government ain't going to do it. They're going to keep destroying your immune system ultimately every policy as a systems biologist i know will affect your biology policy to biology so cytosol the technology that i created allows us to understand what happens at the molecular systems level so you take a policy you can see how it affects your biology. So those in Congress and all of these people know that the health of American people is going downward because people's immune systems are shot. When the immune system is shot, it is the operating system of even the aging systems. Anti-aging and immune system science are like this. So what's a healthcare policy? Forget the

government, forget the presidency, forget the judiciary. You have to boost your immune system. So my being president, David, I have a very different definition of what the presidency is. I think the presidency is a bully pulpit to educate people. That's what a president should be doing. Because we know it's corrupt. We know the judiciary is corrupt. But if I get in as president, David, imagine you can go see my videos. I would be educating people every day on how this policy affects them and telling them you have to now take action at the local level. Government ain't going to do anything for you. Let's be honest.

It ain't going to do anything. So health care boosts your immune system. And we actually teach people this, David. We teach people what the immune system is. We give them the ability to do it so they don't have to wait till i'm president and we did that in 2020. when it comes to the environment just did a talk yesterday and we this is our second time we've done it we teach people the foundations of the environment or again government has passed policies which support big ag big agro biotech companies and i did some of the fundamental research showing what happens with genetic

engineering what it does at the molecular systems level for plants. But then we say, look, they're not going to do anything. Start supporting your local farmers. Learn how to eat on a local budget, organic food. Government ain't going to do that. When it comes to education, David, one of my mentors, Jay Forrester, said every child at the kindergarten level should learn system science, system thinking. It's way beyond reading, writing child at the kindergarten level should learn system science, system thinking. It's way beyond reading, writing, and arithmetic. You should learn that first. So we just offer that program, David, every other Thursdays. And then when it comes to innovation, you know, I wrote a book many, many years ago, David, a very simple book called The Seven Secrets of Innovation. It teaches people what are the seven fundamental principles. And I give that

away because there are seven principles people can teach. When it comes to the economy, we're teaching people as a part of our campaign, what is a balance sheet? What is a profit and loss statement? What is cash flow? Government ain't going to do anything. A president should be educating people how they can take care of themselves. And if they get conscious, then they're going to get good, militant, strong activists in their local levels. And that's the only way the world is going to change. It's not going to come from someone coming in and doing all these negotiations. Look at what's happened since Trump got in. What did he actually do? Lockdowns, lockdowns. Pfizer went from $45 billion in revenue, losing $25 billion over 10 years, shooting up to 85 billion in revenue,

now 100 billion. So these guys aren't going to do anything for you. We have to do it ourselves. And you need one of you, which is a guy like me. So that's why I'm running, David. Well, you know, that's a great thing because I've said for the longest time, I said, look, we need to understand what these people are doing. We see that there's going to be a slight difference in the way that they come after us first. They all have ultimately the same goal. But I said it's important to understand where these guys are coming from. The most important thing is to have a discussion about what is going on. And I think that's the value of the campaign is to have, and it's very limited whenever that happens,

that you do have a discussion about what is going to be done out there. So I think that's a good approach for your campaign to get that out there, to have people look at, because a bully pulpit doesn't just happen if you get elected president. The bully pulpit is really happening during the campaign. Exactly. And so that's a very important thing that you're doing there. So tell us a little bit about, I guess, since you've got truthhealthandfreedom.com, why is it? Truth, freedom, health.com. Yep. Truth, freedom, health. Okay. I got the other order. Truth, freedom and health. Since you've got that, why though with the president thing, is that, you know, why are you running for president? You've got the bully pulpit that you've been able to establish contact with people.

You know, when you're running for president, I've said with people, way before you get to the ballot counting aspect of it, it is already corrupt in terms of who gets on the ballot in different places, who gets into the debates, as we're seeing already. That's really where it begins, right there with ballot access. And I'm sure as an independent, it's got to be a real uphill climb. But what does running for president do for you? Yes, so David, it's a great question a real uphill climb. But what does running for president do for you? Yes. So David, it's a great question. You're asking one of the most fundamental

questions. Everyone at a certain point in their lives, and it may happen when they're five years old. In my case, it happened when I was four, right? Because I grew up in an Indian caste system. I grew up in working class neighborhoods in New Jersey, right? You come to a point in life where you observe the world and at some point whether you do it consciously or unconscious you decide i don't like the way the world that it is the way it is right or i'm fine with it i'm willing to put up with all these inequities and when you come to that point in life where you choose a form or we say hey this is really screwed up i want to be an agent of change but it's a very important decision people make. And some people actually make the decision, but they never acknowledge they made that decision.

So I made that decision when I was 12 years old. And when I decided that, I said, I'm going to use whatever my existence to figure out how all of this works. Now, in the current world, they give people only two options. They say, oh, you want to change the world. Oh, write to your congressman, right? That's what they taught us when we were in civics class, right? Write to your congressman or run't say that. Don't say this. Get into office. That's the goal, right? So you end up in this opportune model. The other option they give you is a legalism approach. Be a lawyer, file lawsuits, right? Et cetera.

Now we know both of those are corrupt. The legalism approach takes you to courts, which are completely bought and paid for. And the electoral process goes into a process where I learn hands-on, it's elections or selections. goes into a process where i learn hands-on it's elections or selections however both of those processes can be a front end to have what you just said discourse and teach people stuff it's really an experimental lab if you have a movement if you have a movement and you're interested in advancing movement movement is raising people's consciousness to me that's what movement is movement of Consciousness and history shows that the only time anything has ever changed has always been through mass movements people rising up bottoms up it occurred in the 1920s in the late 1800s in the United States with the great upheaval it was these truly bottoms up

workers movements long before they were taken over by the left and the right that galvanized people that were independent grassroots movements that scared the hell out of the elites and you can look at in the united states right by the 1920s and 30s these bottoms-up movements truly independent trade union movements is the ones that eliminated child labor it's a thing that made sure that we had infrastructure it's's a thing that we had proper plumbing. It's a thing that forced us to get proper hygiene. So long before 1963, before the measles vaccine came, most of measles was gone. But no one wants to give their credit to those workers movements that did that. And when that happened in the 1950s, the Republicans and Democrats got together. McCarthy branded all these movements.

He said they're communists. And then the left wing took over all these movements top down. So by 1970, the unions were destroyed. They weren't truly organic bottoms up movements. The right wing attacked any time working people organized. Oh, they're communists. They're communists. And the left wing actually took over these movements. So between 1940 and 1970, American economy expanded,

everyone's wages grew because of these mass movements. But after 1970, till today, the wage of American workers has gone down. And there's maybe been, you know, 900 strikes in the United States. In the 1940s, there were close to 11, strikes it was truly a bottoms-up movement so in my view those in power do not want people mobilizing bottoms up independent of left and right they want people to always give away their power to some fool called a kennedy or some other guy called a trump you say and they've engineered that so having understood this david and i it took me i mean i studied left-wing books right-wing books everything i could get a hold of and i realized it was bottoms-up movements

in system science i would call it a self-organizing system where enough people start consciousness raises so our movement for truth for them health teaches people this we educate people it's it's knowledge it's a community. Running for office, when I ran in 2020, think about all the accomplishments we did because they attacked us. We were the ones who exposed the election fraud. We were the ones who exposed Fauci. We were the ones who exposed the backdoor portal. Had a guy like me not run, David, and just be a cloistered academic or a scientist, none of this would have come out because we wanted the truth. David Sherman Yeah. David Sherman So now me running for president

and doing it in every 50 state, David, think about what experience that's going to give to all these new people coming because they realize left and right is screwing them. Now they're going to try to get on the ballot or achieve it for president on the ballot. They say, wow, what the hell is really going on? Think about the learnings people are going to learn. Think about in their bones, they're going to learn the corruption. It's not just going to be something they watch on Fox or CNN. They're going to learn it. And how valuable is that, David, to educating people on why they need to be active citizens? I think it's a great plan. I agree with you. And I've been telling everybody, look, you're not

going to get anything solved in Washington, but everybody wants to look for a solution and a president. So if you're running for president, it gives you an opportunity to tell them, hey, start with yourself, start with your community, start from the bottom up, I think is a brilliant plan. Yeah. And what we've done, David, we've created sort of a revolution university. You know, you go to school for civil engineering, you go to school for aeronautical engineering, right?

If you want to build an airplane, you have to bernoulli's principle you have to understand design where do people go to figure out how to change the world the dynamics of change you know this book i have system and revolution took me 20 years to write that book in that book i explained to people in very simple terms what is a system the nine principles you know you learn in an mit phd class i've made it easy and you find out the same principles show up everywhere in nature now understanding those principles people understand what is a revolution that it is a phase transition you know like water going from ice to you know liquid and when people understand these concepts and then they understand what is a disturbance so we're teaching people this fundamental theory.

Then we get people on the ground, David. We have people going out and handing out leaflets, going door to door. But the idea is to make people be conscious activists that it's up to them. That's great. We've got to get you back on to talk about this. We're out of time, but it was fascinating. Again, truthfreedomhealth.com. Yep, and then people can go to 4, num truthfreedomhealth.com.

And then you can go to 4, numeral4president.com. So shiva4president.com. Yeah, donate and volunteer. Get involved. Thanks, David. Look forward to seeing him. Glad we reconnected. Thank you for all the work you do, David.

I was very thankful for your intelligence, by the way. Oh, well, thank you. Thank you for your thoughtfulness. Thank you. Thank you for what you're doing. I really do appreciate it. I think it's a great idea. That's it for the broadcast today, folks. Thanks the way. Oh, well, thank you. Thank you for your thoughtfulness. Thank you. Thank you for what you're doing. I really do appreciate it. I think it's a great idea. That's it for the broadcast today, folks.

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