The David Knight Show - Interview: Flock Cameras and the Architecture of Mass Surveillance

Episode Date: September 25, 2026

Eric Peters of ericpetersautos.com and David Knight walk through the East German Stasi parallel, now running on AI instead of human informants, and land on what Peters calls the first instance of privatized tyranny — the population paying for the tools of its own control through private sector proxies that bypass constitutional constraints. Money should have intrinsic value AND transactional privacy: Go to https://davidknight.gold/ for great deals on physical gold/silver For 10% off Gerald Celente's prescient Trends Journal, go to https://trendsjournal.com/ and enter the code “KNIGHT” For high quality made in America products go to HomeSteadProducts.shop and use promo code “Knight” for 10% off your purchases Find out more about the show and where you can watch it at TheDavidKnightShow.com If you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-show Or you can send a donation throughMail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @[e-mail] App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.

All right, joining us now is Eric Peters of Eric Peters Auto.com and I think autos.com. Always great to have Eric on and we're going to talk a little bit about where we are at this point in time. Let me open it up this way, Eric. I just saw a clip from Bill Burr, the comedian and he put it in a way that I think will open a lot of people's eyes to see what's going on. He said, they're not putting this stuff in all these cameras to watch everything that we're doing all the time. He said, they're not putting that in because of what you or I are doing. He said they're putting that in because of what they're about to do. Correct.

And that's it. You know, we always talk about it's like, if you build this structure, the criminals will come. But we don't have to wait for the criminals to come. We don't have to say, well, you know, if the Republicans build this out, the Democrats are going to come in, they're going to use it. Of course, that is true. But it's the fact is, the people who are putting this stuff in place are the bad guys who are going to use it right away. Yeah, absolutely. And there does seem to be a mad rush to get this.

up and running as quickly as possible. I saw a stat that as recently as 2024 that were virtually no flock cameras outside of a few urban areas in the United States. And now they're practically everywhere. And in tandem with that, these data centers that are just being bums rushed, you know, hurriedly, every small town has to have a data center. And it makes me wonder, don't people ask why? What is the agency? What exactly, what good purpose is there for these data centers so that we can get streaming Netflix faster. I don't have any problem getting streaming Netflix. What is it facilitating? It's so blatantly obvious that this is all about having the capacity to just vacuum up and hoover every last bit of data about us in real time by the cameras

and use that as leverage against us in a way that's almost unimaginable. The closest thing to it existed in, you know, the former Soviet satellite countries like East Germany. And I've mentioned before in other radio programs I've done. There's a really excellent movie called The Lives of Other People, The Lives of Others. It's a German language film. Are you familiar with it? No, I'm not. It's about the East German Stasi.

It's harrowing, you know, to get a glimpse into that system. And that was an analog system. Yeah. That was back in the days before they had access to this technology. And they were able to micromanage. every last thing that everybody did in that country. And it gives you a sense of what life will be like in this country when this system is enabled and comes online. Well, let's talk a little bit about what it does to people. As a matter of fact, I have an interesting story. It's not the movie. I didn't

see that movie, but there was a story, a woman who was an American, and she loved the idea of communism, and she decided that she would go to East Germany. And she loved it so much, she married a guy there and decided to stay there. Well, that was very suspicious to the Stasi because they're looking at this and like, who would really want to live here? So immediately there's something wrong with this picture, because they know what the place is about, right? So they're all about watching her. And she said, when she talked about what it was like to live there, she said, you'd have neighbors who are so nice to you unless you went to the butcher shop where they worked. And at that point where they got a little bit of power.

Boy, they just wielded on it. You know, it's like the TSA experience, right? And then she said she was so disappointed after they, the East Germany fell, they were able to get the papers. And she saw that all of her neighbors were informing on her. And it was just so disillusioning for her to realize that that was the case. But they don't need, they can take the human element out now. And they can do that with AI.

And when I look at AI, to me, the use case is all about government. You know, it really is all about creating this omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, god-like beast that they want to create. And they keep referring to it as God, we ought to believe them, because that's really what they're trying to create as a godlike system. Trump literally referred to it as a superior intelligence, you know, basically all the things are God. Exactly, that's what it's going to be. A fascinating aspect of this to me is that it's the first instance that I'm aware of, of the private, privatization of tyranny. You know, in school analog regimes, they had to deal with, you know,

bearing the expense of lining people up in front of dishes and shooting them, maintaining the gulags, cost money. You know, one of the reasons that the Soviet Union fell apart was because they went broke, you know, basically trying to imprison everybody and control everybody all the time. Well, some evil person figured out, why don't we offload this to the private sector, so called? Yeah. And we'll have them, we'll have them perform this authoritarian stuff for,

us and the very people that were tyrannizing will pay for it. You know, we'll move to the private sector to fleece and tyrannize the population. It's incredible. It reminds me of Brazil, Terry Gilliam's movie, where, you know, they have the wrong person and they break in with this big SWAT team thing, which in 1984 when you did it, it was so over the top, but now we do that on a regular basis. And so they put him in a bag, they put a bag over his head and zip it up, and they hand the paperwork to the woman and said, this is your story.

from my seat and you'll be charged for the interrogation, that type of thing. But you know, Eric, there was an element of that in Hitler's fascism, where he said, you know, a difference, he called himself a socialist and, of course, Stalin called himself a socialist. But we're supposed to believe that socialism is not communism or a form of it, right? But anyway, he said the difference between us is that Stalin is going to take over the factories and things that he can run all this stuff. I'm going to let these guys run the factories themselves, and then when it's all done, then I'll take it over. And so there's that fascist element that has always been there, but never to this extent. And never did they make this amount of money. But this is something we saw developing also in China.

I mean, we look at China. You don't have a factory there unless you give them your trade secrets and you give membership to some of the party functionaries that are there. But I think it's kind of interesting is she is visiting America. Did you see what Trump did? I mean, he is, he loves, he loves these dictators everywhere. And did you see what he did? He went out and met the plane. Oh, I missed it. I guess I had a big enough dose watching his speech at the UN on Tuesday. That was awful. It was surreal listening to him, also with the kind of, you know, the weird, like, gripping of the podium and the strange ticks and just situations that he does. while he's grunting and squealing about, you know,

and not eating them all. I don't even know what to say about it. And pausing for applause when there wasn't any. But you're right. You know, it's essentially they're modeling what they've done in China. They're trying to attempt to bring that over here. And it's happening so quickly, I think, that a lot of people are just overwhelmed by it. And we don't know what to do about it.

Though I do think there is, you know, there's some pushback. And that's good. particularly in rural areas where the local politicians have sold out to these big companies and are just buying up land and foisting these data centers on people. In my area that's happening, I'm outside of Roanoke in Southwest Virginia, and there's a hullabaloo going on here because there's a large tract of land that was apparently sold to some company that's going to put up a data center. And Politico have an NDA with this company.

So they're not saying anything about what the name of the company is. Isn't that criminal? That should be criminal. Yeah. And there was a public meeting where people came to, you know, to ask questions about it. And, of course, they were just completely ignored, dismissed. So much for democracy. So much of the people. If you look at any, any poll, nobody want, most people don't want this. So why is it that it's happening? It's like the war. The war, two-thirds of the people don't want this. And yet, here we are. Yeah, forget about democracy. We don't have that anymore. As a matter of fact, there was a, I saw, interesting comment from Trump.

Everything that he's doing right now, he's all about his projects, you know, putting gold on everything or militarizing everything. You know, he's got this elaborate golden arch that he wants to put up. I guess he loves McDonald's so much. But anyway, he puts this thing up and so he's got to militarize it with drones and snipers and all the rest of the stuff. And somebody said to him about one of his projects. I said, that doesn't pass code, what you want to do there.

And he said, I am the code. Right. Right. Straight out of Judge Dread, right. I am the law. He's apparently in the process of physically demolishing the Kennedy Center, too, from what I gather. Yeah. Because, you know, they had the temerity to take down his gilded name from the side that he had affixed to it.

And as far as this, Triumphal Arch, you know what it reminds me of you're probably familiar with this. Hitler had this grandiose model of, you know, the world capital, Germania, you know, that he had laid out in his, his in the chancellor where he would go with his flunkies to look at it. And they had this enormous, you know, domed thing in the center of it. And there was a triumphal arch, very much like the one Trump, this brutalism, this gigantism to the ego of one man. You know, and we're seeing we're seeing it percolate upward again in the person of a guy who's just a lout, a clown. Yeah. And look at how he, look at the people that he respects. The only leaders that he respects that he's very deferential to him.

We saw it was she. The only people that he respects are these authoritarian dictators. He likes Xi. He likes Putin. He likes Duterte, Kim Jong-un. As a matter of fact, Duterte, I remember talking about that in his first regime. He was, of course, he remembered Duterte was president of the Philippines. And he told his police force, he said, look, we're going to stop drugs.

And if you see somebody think doing drugs, you have my permission, just shoot him right on the spot. And they did. you know, same kind of stuff that Trump is doing in Venezuela with the ships that are down there, right? And Trump just thought he was great. And I said, do you realize how dangerous this is? He loves this. He thinks this is a great idea. And he, you know, he likes Kim Jong-un.

He gets along better with Kim Jong-un than he does leaders from any of the other Western countries. He really loves, and I think it's because he kind of envies and wants to project himself in that kind of power. He loves people who rule as dictators. And that's exactly what he does. He has a power, and he's figured this out. He's got the power to declare a phony emergency and then rule by executive order and dare people to stop him.

And it takes a while to stop him. He's a callous and brutal man. And I marvel at the naivete of some of his supporters who were okay with what he was doing in Venezuela. Okay with this summary execution of people. Maybe they were involved in, I don't know, trafficking drugs. Maybe. Who knows? There was no due process. They just blew people out of the water, you know, just because they were there. Well, if he's going to do that to the Venezuelans,

what would stop him from doing that to people here in this country? I know. I know. I remember when this stuff all broke out, Alex Jones was cheering at. He thought this is great. Look at how strong we are. And yeah, when you look at the criminal actions there, as I pointed out, even if these people had done what they had accused them of, that is not a capital offense. when they stop boats because I think they got drugs on them. 25% of the time they don't, as Rand Paul pointed out. But if they find the drugs on them, they don't line everybody up on the side of the ship

and summarily execute them. And you certainly don't do that. One incident that is beyond appalling of the boat was shot up and the guys were bobbing in the water, totally helpless at that point. And they just killed them. Yeah. You know, this is the sort of thing that at one time appalled Americans,

you know, back in the 70s, when Lieutenant Callie massacred the village in Vietnam, you know, that was considered a war crime. That was considered egregious. But Americans have lost their moral senses. They don't care. It's, and it's, and if they think that this isn't going to come around and bite them on the butt, they are delusional. And it used to be considered infamy to start a war when you've not been attacked. That's the other aspect of what is happening with all of this stuff.

But, you know, Eric, it really is, as I see it is, is a perfect storm because we've got not only these surveillance centers going in everywhere. And I think one of the use cases for it is going to be to process digital currency so they can have a permission-based society when it comes to financial transactions. I think that's a big part of it. But they're putting these things in everywhere. They're going to be spying on everything that we do, turning into a permission-based society. And at the same time, rolling out digital ID for everything, because that's also very much required for a permission society. And then Trump has created this Trump force of thugs that he calls ICE.

And just, I don't know if you followed this or not, just in the last few days, we had a guy in Austin, yeah, he was an illegal immigrant, but they shot him in the back. He wasn't the guy they were looking for, but they shot him in the back. They didn't give him any medical attention. Instead, they haul him off to detention center, throw him on the floor. He sleeps there overnight, and they never even called anybody to take the bullet out of him. I mean, this is unbelievable. I remember when these first ice killings of American protesters happen in up north of Minnesota.

And I played clips of law enforcement officers who were complaining about the way they were engaging with the public. And one of the things they talked about, they said, you know, look, if you've got somebody, even if it's a criminal who's been shooting at us and maybe hit one of the law enforcement officers, we still do everything we can to give the medical care. not these guys in ice. I mean, not only did they shoot that guy in the back and just leave him there, but they also, in Michigan, somebody that ran from them, they killed him with a car. And then you look in Chicago, basically the same type of thing. They see a guy that looks like a foreigner to them. They demand his papers, and he's like, who are you?

I'm an American citizen type thing. And they took him down the ground and beat him to a pulp as a gang. And all these people gather around and were filming it because nobody wants to try to get involved and stop because they're so dangerous. And when they get finished, they realize as they're doing, I guess somebody's running his biometrics or something, and figured out that he was an American citizen. So they left him alone, but they just left him laying there bleeding on the sidewalk. And these other people call the police and the police show up and, you know, they help him and they get information about who these guys are and so forth and get medical care for him. But the people that Trump is doing in terms of the ICE and Border Patrol people, he is setting up not only a federal police,

police force, which you never want to have. But he is also training them to be the most ruthless, thuggish, callous people that you can imagine. And that I think is a big part of it. And of course, when you look at the Border Patrol, that includes about a third of the U.S. population, or maybe it's two-thirds, I forget which it is, because it's 100 miles inside of the border. So it includes most of the people on the East Coast, includes all of Florida, for example. And within that area, Border Patrol can do whatever they wish. We just have the Second Circuit Court say, if you want to seize their phones, you can. That's not covered by the Fourth Amendment because your phone is property.

It's like, wait a minute, has the Second Circuit Court ever read the Fourth Amendment? It specifically talks about being left alone in terms of your person, your house, your papers, and your effects. And everybody agreed that what effects meant were property that was movable. It was real property, but it was different. from like real estate, right? And so it was property that was movable. It was things like your business records and things. It's exactly what a cell phone is.

You couldn't get a better example of effects than a cell phone. But, of course, just ignore it. Sure, absolutely. You know, we should have known that trouble was brewing on the second day of Trump's current term. You remember when he had that press conference announcing Stargate with Ellison and Altman and the Chinese guy. I can't remember what his name was. And I remember thinking at the time, well, this is a story.

So, you know, here's this MAGA guy, you know, who was talking about securing the border and lowering the cost of living and energy prices and, you know, making the country great again, blah, blah, blah. And he's got these, these creepy tech guys here talking about. And, you know, I mean, it was just, they telegraphed, it brought, you know, right in your face and here we are. And clearly, you know, the intent of this is to not only control us after the fact, but before the fact, do you hear people talk about the chilling effect on the First Amendment? That's an old term. well, this is going to be a chilling effect on everything. And Matt, try to envision the world.

Like, let's say we had COVID too. And they tell you you're locked down. And you know that if you leave your house, they're going to know immediately. You know that if you do anything that you're not supposed to be doing, they're going to know immediately. They can flag you, get you, punish you immediately. There's no wiggle room. There's no nothing. Well, most people are just going to bow their heads and go along with it.

They don't want to have any trouble. That's right. Yeah, I remember when that happened. as well. Whoa, this is really bad. Look at this guy. He's starting, he's picking up right where he left off of MRNA, right? And we're going to custom design this for you with artificial intelligence. It's like, okay, yeah. And, oh, by the way, and you all, so they'd war game this out, Eric, they were talking about power, right? Well, the grid's not strong enough. You're not to do your own power and so forth and so on. They had run through all of this stuff and they were rolling

it out right there. I mean, it is a long-term plan. And like Bill Burr said, you know, it's not about what we're doing. It's about what they're planning to do to us, and they know how we're going to react. And so they've got to get there first. And that's a very dark thought. Yeah. You know, it may actually account for what otherwise seems to be a completely inexplicable mad rush to have this war, you know, not necessary. Well, maybe it was necessary because maybe the necessity is to collapse the economy. I agree. And, and then, you know, to impose all of this stuff in the name of national security because people will be desperate. You know, people will will not be able to feed themselves. People will not be able to heat their homes. We're, you know, getting close to winter now.

You know, this is something that could have mass upheaval. So how are you going to control the masses when the upheaval happens? Well, there you go. You know, they're setting up the architecture for that. I agree. Yeah, I've said many times in the show, I think Trump's a one-man fourth turning. Last fourth turning we have was a great depression in World War. And I think that is his purpose and all this. And he really doesn't care. if we agree with it. I mean, he's even got the few people that are still cheerleading for him as terms of podcasters that are out there

are all calling for him to enact martial law to control the elections when it comes this next midterm election. So, yeah, I mean, he's just, he feels like he can do anything and he dares you to stop him. And he really doesn't care about the, he said over and over again, we should take him at his word, he said over and over again, he really doesn't care about inflation and the cost of gas. it's worth it to him because he's got this other agenda.

And I think we're starting to see why that agenda is. Sure, absolutely. Well, while we look at this, let's talk about your other article here that we got here. Things you'll need to learn to do. I think that is the key issue. I think when they turn this, create this permission society, it's going to be the skills that we have and the ability as much as we've got to get outside the system. Nobody's going to be able to escape it completely. But to be able to escape it enough to have something of a life, I think.

is the key. Tell us a little bit about what you got in your article here. Well, sure. Let me preface it by saying, you know, it's, it's demoralizing to focus on all these things that are being done to us, to take control away from us, to make us feel helpless, to make us feel as if there's no hope. So I think it's important to try to think about things that are positive that we can do to kind of recapture some control over our lives. And I got to thinking about, you know, I've had a lot of people ask me, Well, you know, I really don't want one of these new cars that has the eye movement monitors and that has, you know, that has ads that pop up on touchscreens that is mining my data and trying to assist me and control how I drive. But I'm not really very technical as far as mechanical things. I don't know how to fix stuff. I'd like to get an older car, but I'm a little intimidated about getting a car, an analog car in particular, which would be a car made for the early 80s.

That's how far you have to go back to get a car that doesn't have a computer. at all of any kind that's still a mechanical machine. So I thought, you know, it might be, it might be worth explaining to people that they're actually not that difficult to keep up. In fact, in some ways, they're easier because they don't generally require a lot of expensive components or equipment. Mostly it's just patience and reading a manual and some very basic hand tools. And that's kind of empowering. You know, it's true. Modern cars tend to run reliably without problems for a pretty long time before something goes wrong. but when something does go wrong, they just fritz out.

You're stuck. You're not going to fix it by the side of the road. You're going to have to call a truck. I agree. Yeah. I just saw a video of a guy who was talking about, he was a mechanic. He had the car up on a rack. And he had identified the problem with the transmission.

He called up, and forget the make of the car. Oh, Nissan, I think you're talking about. Yeah, and they would not sell him the parts. Yes. They got to buy all new transmission. I'm not going to sell you this individual part that could be changed replaced on there. You've got to buy a whole new transmission. And we're not going to give it to you. A lot of these parts on these late model vehicles. And I'm talking about basic things like

headlight assemblies, windshield wiper motors, power window switches. Even if you get the correct factory part and even if you install a thing correctly, it may not work because it has to be paired. That's the term with the car's ECU. It's brain. And unfortunately, most people can't do that on their own. You have to typically go to a dealer because the dealer has the proprietary equipment to plug the car in and get it so that it recognizes the new part. And of course, you're going to pay for the privilege. And a lot of these parts are so exorbitantly expensive. It's almost impossible to believe it until you actually look it up. I'll give you an example. A couple of weeks ago, I had a Ford F-250 to test drive, and I was talking about it with a friend of mine who's a professional

mechanic. And he said, do you know how much it cost to replace one of the headlight assemblies on this thing. And I said, no, I'm offhand. I don't. And he told me $800. Wow. One cracked plastic headlight assembly, because it's no longer just a headlight. You know, it contains sensors and it's part of the whole system. You know, it has auto leveling and all these other things. So it's a very, very expensive piece of equipment. Now, you know, go back to an analog car. I have an analog car, my 76 Trans Am. It has glass sealed beam headlights. If one cracks or burns out, I can go down to the Napa store. And for $25, you know, I can buy a brand new headlight, and I can plug it in in five minutes, not even that long.

Super easy. Just close. I'm just thinking maybe what I need to have is a horse. A horse is not a bad. I mean, if you've got the acre, actually, I've thought about that too. Now, horses are expensive to keep up as well. Then you're going to have to get a ferrier and all of that. But there are less expensive ways to get around.

And they do eat like a horse. They do eat like a horse. The metaphor is not there for, it's there for a good reason. they do eat like that. But yeah, if you've got a place for them to graze or something, it'd be a good thing to do. We've talked in the past. When we were in Texas, we'd come across occasionally when we were looking for a house, we would come across some donkeys, some burrows. And they were actually pretty amusing and very, very friendly, friendlier than the horses that I've met. And the problem was, we thought about getting them, but because we wound up, we had

some properties about five acres, but we did not get a borough because what we read about the ones that they really don't like dogs, they think they're coyotes. And they act like they attack them, like there's some kind of a guard animal or something. So I was like, well, that's not in my area, a lot of people around here have burrows because, you know, they're excellent at protecting the cattle. That's chiefly what people get them for because of the coyotes and so on and other predators. But they're pretty low maintenance and they're pretty, they're pretty fun. Yeah, they're intelligent like horses and you get to know them and my buddy has got three of them and he brings them candy canes. They love that. You know, they know they're going to get a candy cane when he, you know,

he makes a certain sound and they'll come trotting up to the fence line to get their candy canes. Yeah. Well, we were strangers, but just they just liked people and we would be out somewhere looking at something. They'd come trotting up to the edge of the thing and begging almost like a dog, but we do have dogs. And so that's, I guess, the issue that has got us concerned about it. But Lance says with the cost of gas riding rising feeding a horse might soon be the cheaper option. I think so probably. Especially, you know, if you've got you got a wagon, the wagon will be a lot less expensive to fix even than a 1980s car. And who knows if we'll be able to get parks with that kind of stuff that long.

That's the other issue. Yeah, you know, the diesel thing too, boy, record high last time I checked, which was yesterday, it was at 650 a gallon nationally. Mm-hmm. And for a long time, I've encouraged people to consider getting diesels because they're so much more efficient. And if you get the older ones, they're a lot simpler mechanically. And so they're easier to maintain. But, you know, the fuel is becoming so exorbitantly expensive that that option might be off the table too.

And then we got into the whole electric car thing. And there are some people who are saying, well, maybe now it makes sense to get an electric car. The problem is, unless you've got a home solar array that's powerful enough to provide the electricity that you're going to need for that. that EV, you're still stuck on grid power. Grid power is not cheap. That's right. And it's going to get a lot more expensive, too. Sure.

You know, minimally, from talking to people about it, on the low end, it would cost you about $6,000. If you're competent enough to put the thing together yourself, just for the equipment that you need to put together a home solar array that would adequately power an electric vehicle, problem is like, you know, where I live, it's mountainous and it's been overcast for the past three days. Yeah. So, you know, I mean, it's fine if you're in Arizona or New Mexico maybe, but for most

of us, it's not going to be a very good idea. That's right. The way it is around here, too, we have a lot of rain, a lot of clouds. And, you know, when you look at the EV issue, that reminds me of another thing they're trying to shove down people's throats everywhere. That's the battery energy storage sites. Have you heard of those? Yes. And use a car as a, as a, as a way to feed current back into the grid. Well, actually, yeah, it's a bigger version of that. They actually have a special purpose, gigantic lithium battery arrays. You talk about the ultimate fire hazard. It's right there. And of course, they have caught fire many times. And when we go back and we look at the electric

buses that have been out there, they've got large batteries on them. And you had a couple of big bus fires in Germany. One of them was in Munich. Maybe the other one's in Stuttgart. I don't really remember. But I know one of them, a bus ignites, as we see them do from time to time. it catches the adjacent buses on fire and it burned down the entire place. We had situations like that in France. And in Canada, it got so bad, they decided they just retrofitted these things and sent them back to diesel engines. But now they want to put out these gigantic battery energy storage sites.

And they've talked about that here in Tennessee. The TVA has talked about it. That's really a bad idea around here. They want to put them in residential areas. And that's just begging for a massive fire. But they did it down in California. They've had a couple of these things in California. And the people are trying to stop it because they're, you know,

we've got problems with fires out here. And it's just like it is with the data centers. The local county commissioners are beholden to the corporations and they've got NDAs with them and they're lying to people. They're secret about it and all the rest of the stuff. The same thing we're seeing with the data centers. I think at the end of the day, what they really want is to have energy completely centralized, electricity ideally, because then they can control.

it completely. You notice in a number of states they're doing things like prohibiting new homes from having gas or propane or wood-burning fireplaces because these are alternatives and they give people an option. They don't want that. So you have electricity controlled by the central grid, which is controlled by smart meters, which is connected to the internet of things and everything else. And they'll tell you how much electricity you're allowed to use and what you're going to have to do to be allowed to use the electricity. That's key. Yeah, it really is. We go back to 1930s and look at the technocracy. They were all about measuring everything. Even to the extent they said, you know, we need to just get rid of currency and we need to measure everybody in terms of how much energy you use. Well,

we've kind of seen that proposed around the Green New Deal stuff, right, where they want to measure how much you eat and how much you travel and the fuel that you use and all the rest of the stuff. But that is one way for them to measure and to track everything. And that is a key value of the technocrats. They're like these engineers who did the time and motion studies, right? And they wanted to fine-tune everything. They look at that and say, yeah, we're going to scientifically manage society, which means we've got to know everything about all the usage that everybody is doing.

But it has a downside on it that is much worse than any efficiency it might bring. when it's combined with the human nature of politicians. One of the things that, to me, is immensely frustrating is, you know, Trump, getting back to that, ostensibly brought in to put the kibosh on all of this green stuff, all of this, this, this. And now, because of the things that he's done, he's all but assuring that it's going to come back with a vengeance. You know, he did a few things, piddling around the periphery, getting rid of the endangerment finding that was the basis for the EPA regulating CO2,

too as a pollutant, dialing back some of the fines for the corporate average fuel economy stuff having to do with gas mileage on cars. Or none of it was fundamentally repealed. He did what typically Republicans always do. They mend not end. Don't get rid of just kind of dial it back a little bit so that it can be brought back even worse at some point in the future. So, you know, what are these MAGA hats think is going to happen when, assuming the elections

are allowed to proceed and there's a blue tsunami and they take over at the house? and then in 2028, we get, you know, President Spanberger or, you know, President. Yeah, or AOC or whatever. All of these allegedly good things that Trump did will, you know, will be completely vitiated. Yeah, he's not going to end the EPA, and he's not going to stand on principle for anything. And a good example of that is going back to his first term. He left the Paris Climate Accord, 2015. He left that and placed the entire time.

You know, it's interesting when they put that in. they said, well, you know, you can leave, but once you give us notice that you have to leave, that you're going to leave, you've got to give us four years for that to happen. And so he said, oh, okay, well, I don't want to break any laws here. You know, of course, Trump wouldn't want to tread on anybody and he wouldn't want to usurp any authority. So he's going to obey the letter of the law of this thing that was never ratified, this treaty, that was never ratified by Congress, by the Senate. And to me, that was such a smelly rat.

could see that a mile away. And all these people are saying, hey, he can't do anything. His hands are tied. It's like, look at what he's doing now. His hands are never tied. He does whatever he wishes. And he boasts about the fact that he can do whatever he wishes. He deliberately did not want to get out of the Paris Climate Accord. Yeah, it's a very weird relationship that he's got with whoever still supports him, isn't it? You know, he'll do things like just brazenly, in your face, go out and buy with our money, 250 gas guzzling Cadillac escalates for his entourage. And then say things like, I don't think much about, you know, the financial impact of my decisions and people. Yeah.

And it's a small price to pay. By the way, you know, the gas tax, I mean, the war tax, that's what I've been calling it. Yes. Currently, you're paying about $1.70 per gallon extra because of this war. Fuel was about $2.80 earlier in this year before the war started. It's now the national average is about $4.50. So you're paying about $1.70 more for every gallon, which, means that if you have, let's say, a modest small crossover SUV, something like a Toyota

Rav 4 that has a roughly 12 to 15 gallon gas tank, every time you fill up, you're paying $25 in a war tax. That means that you're paying more for that than you're paying in the federal and state gas taxes combined. It's one of the most exorbitant and regressive taxes that has been afflicted on the American people in my memory. That's a good way to look at it. If it stays where it is right now, most people will be paying at least $1,200 more every year just to support this war. And that's not counting on it, everything else. Yeah, that's a good way to look at. That's a good way to explain it to people.

The only thing I would change about that, I would say instead of a war tax, I'd say the Israel tax. Well, you're sure, of course, obviously, it's that. It's amazing to me how much control the Zionists have over this government. I just, every time I see it, I just shake my head. It's like, this can't be true. This is a nightmare scenario. It's so insufferable to have your motives impugn, too, to raise your hand in question, things like, you know, this horrific genocide that's going on in Gaza. Yeah.

These, these, these. Or Lebanon. Lebanon. Look at Lebanon. And they'll say, well, you're anti-Semitic. You don't like people who are Jewish. No, I don't like the state of Israel. No, I don't like Netanyahu.

I don't like the Zionist lobby. I think these people are pathological and psychopathic even. Yeah. And that's nothing to do. It doesn't mean I subscribe to Derr-Stirmer, you know, It doesn't mean, you know, I'm looking to round up people who just happen to be Jewish. I would like to see Netanyahu rounded up. Yeah.

You know, and a lot of the people in his administration and Trump and also a lot of people around Trump, too. Yeah, I agree. I agree. Yeah. Did you see how everybody walked out on them in the UN? I played that on the show. It's a shame that the whole body didn't. Yeah.

I mean, it was unhinged. It was pretty close to the entire body. It really was. I spent up and played it back at two and a half speed. So it's like he he I mean it's I think it's just an indecacy of how beaten down we are you had the president of the United States threatening essentially to annihilate an entire country. And I'm surprised they didn't walk out on him. I'm surprised. I mean, I would have. I'm not going to set through any of his features. Where was it? You know, like you old Bugs Money cartoons where they had the guys with white suits and the nets coming out to get the crazy guy. Yeah, that's right. That's what they should have. Well, you know, when when we look at it.

it how insane this is. I don't even know where to start with this because, you know, the war tax and just keeps going and going. And everybody sees what's happening with it. And if you say, you know, we don't want to, you're going to cancel the people if they even criticize your foreign government. And then they call you anti-Semitic. And then they boast about how they canceled you for criticizing their foreign government. And you have this dual loyalty issue, which, again, when Dave Smith called out Alan Dershowitz on that. Alan Dershowitz, oh, you're anti-Semitic. Just by pointing out dual loyalty, I'm looking at this dual loyalty stuff,

and it cuts on a lot of different ways. I mean, I see the massive group of Muslims going into Texas, trying to put up Sharia systems, and you've got people blowing back against it, don't Sharia, my Texas. I agree with that. But I don't want to Noah Hyde our Texas either. And so we've got all these different groups,

whether it's the Palestinians like Rashida Talib coming and waving her flag or Brian Masked wearing his IDF uniform in the halls of Congress. We've got all these different groups of people who have come to America to loot us and to pick at the carcass of this dead country. That's the way I see it. I see America. I agree with you. I see America sort of as a reincarnation of the Habsburg Empire before it too fell apart.

This sort of just dissolute, degenerate thing that was. run by an out-of-touch oligarchy that had nothing holding it together, really, except inertia and force. And that came to an end. And I think it's going to come to an end here as well. I hope and pray that we can come out of this all right, like the Soviet Union did when it fell apart. It might not be a bad thing for the central authority to fall apart. You know, it was supposed to be the United States, singular, I mean, plural, I mean. And now we have not state singular. And we've had that since 1865. And that's a complete contradiction to the concept that the founding fathers had, which was divided sovereignty to have these essentially

autonomous states that operated as just that in that literal meaning of the term, a state that they had sovereignty. And it was a check on authoritarianism and tyranny because if one state got a little out of hand and it was getting insufferable to live there, well, you could just pick up sticks and you could cross the border to the next state and live a more free life. But when the federal Leviathan came along and centralized everything and turned the states into administrative districts, basically, of the centralized authority in Washington, that alternative began to go away. And it's effectively gone now. Where do you go in this country?

Some states are more than others, but there really isn't any dramatic difference one way or the other. I think there's a huge difference in people's attitude, which has really fed this thing. You know as we're growing up as kids a bit older than you, but you see her all the time, hey, don't make a federal case out of it. Everything is a federal case now. Or somebody would say, hey, it's a free country, isn't it? When was the last time you heard somebody say that? Nobody says that anymore.

It's not a free country. You know, there is something in the Constitution I sort of vaguely remember about double jeopardy. You remember that? And now, you know, you maybe commit some crime at the state level, and then they apply federal hate crime charges on top of that. Yeah. So you essentially get prosecuted for the same thing at multiple levels. That's right.

That's right. And when you look at, go back to 2020 and look at it, I think really the key, and we could see how 2020, again, was queued up and practiced and set up going back to two months before 9-11. They had their germ games. They practiced them on an annual basis. Then they had the anthrax attack. And they put out model legislation two months after that. And so that's how they get around the 10th Amendment. And then the key activating sequence is all of the Federal Reserve money that they can throw up people.

They can bribe you. They can blackmail you with the money. And so to me, I look at it and the only way this empire is going to come apart, and I think it will, is with the dollar coming apart. Because otherwise, they're going to keep bribing and blackmailing people with money, that they just print up. And so I think, you know, that's going to be a very painful thing for all of us when that happens. because we've all been cushioned from reality with this phony federal dollar, this fiat currency, once that is gone and we get back to honest money or something, it's going to be a very different world for us. But it would break the power of the federal government for sure.

You have three things. You know, the money, as you say, the food and mobility, those three things. You know, that's how you control the population. And it's terrifying to think as far as the money in particular, we may wake up one day and, you know, people's savings, their 401K plans, all of it essentially rendered worthless or expropriated by the state. And that's a scenario that could absolutely happen. Oh, and it could happen with the AI bubble. You know, if you've got a 401k, is it invested in funds? And if it's invested in funds, most of that is going to be subject to some kind of, you know, the vicissitudes of an AI bubble that bursts. And so I think that's a really, real risk, you know, when that gigantic bubble that they've created that everybody is saying is going

to bust, but it still hasn't happened. You know, again, shades of 2008, you had so many people were blowing the whistle and saying, this is, this doesn't make any sense. It's fraudulent. It's criminal. And yet it went on and on for a couple more years. And some of the people who were the first ones to notice it nearly went bankrupt because they bet against that fraud, but the people kept running the fraud for a long time. And so I think that's where we are. We've got so many people inside the industry and outside of the industry saying this doesn't make any sense. It's not sustainable. And yet it goes and it goes and it's getting bigger and bigger and more and more concentrated.

And I think a lot of people don't realize how exposed they are perhaps in their 401Ks. Sure. Well, people have gotten comfortable aside from 401Ks, which they have as their retirement, to living hand to mouth to having enormous debt, which they feel okay with because they can float it. But what happens when the chips come calling? you know, and they call in those loans and you have to pay. And all of a sudden, you've got nothing. They just take everything you've got because you really don't own anything. You know, if you're leveraged on your house, you have a big mortgage, you have a vehicle that, you know,

you owe a huge lump sum on and you can't pay it. Well, all of a sudden, you know, your, your facade of affluence just goes away. Yeah, that's right. A lot of people are unfortunately in that position because they have gotten ignored to, used to. It has been encouraged. You know, our parents' generation that experience, that experience, or was around during the Depression, you know, grandparents and all that, they understood the virtue of living not only within their means, but below their means, if possible. And paying for things when they could afford to buy them or on layaway, not getting them until they actually had paid for them. Now, you know, people are just tempted by, well, I can, you know,

I can get that monthly payment and I can get this fancy car that I really can't afford, but they don't say it that way. They just think, I can, I can manage that. And buy all these things and feel like they're, you know, they've got high status, that they're rich because they've got all these goodies and things. But really, they're Fred Bear. They don't really own anything. They're just in hoc to some bank, multiple banks, a lot of the times. That's right. Well, let's talk a little bit about the ethanol blues that you've got article up about. Yeah. You know, it's embarrassing. I've seen this. I've seen this floated as a proposal by some people say, hey, gasoline is expensive. Well, let's just take it up from E10 to E15.

What could possibly happen? Well, they're already doing it. Are you not seeing that in Tennessee? I have not filled up my tank for quite. I hardly ever drive anymore. Well, it's really cheesy, too. They caught, they lured me into this trap. I was driving one day and I needed to get some gas for my truck.

And I glanced up and I saw the sheets and I saw the, you know, sheets, the gas station. And I saw the electric billboard and I saw what looked like and I shouldn't know better, too good to be true price. So, of course, I thought maybe, okay, maybe there's just a good opportunity here. Well, they had that E15 there. And that was the good price. Of course, I didn't put it in my truck because I'm not a complete moron. Don't do that.

Don't put that E-15 in your vehicle unless it's flex-fuel compatible. Only very new late-model vehicles can tolerate the E-15. If you have an older vehicle, don't do it because it will cause damage to your vehicle. That's not just my opinion. Read your owner's manual. It will tell you do not do that. Now to get to my ethanol blues, and it's embarrassing for me to have to admit this. But one of my motorcycles, you know, last summer, fall-ish, I put some ethanol-laced gas in the tank because I thought, oh, I'm going to be riding this.

I'll just burn it through. It'll be fine. Well, life got busy and I ended up not riding that bike for eight months. And when I went to go start it up, this was a couple of weeks ago, I could get it started kind of sort of, but it wouldn't hold an idol. And I knew I had that sinking feeling. And sure enough, I took the carburetors out. And I've got some pictures on my website that shows what was in the, the carburetors. You know, the ethanol, it's highly corrosive and it just eats the gaskets and the

plastics and it reacts badly with the alloys that were used in carburetors that were, you know, the engine parts that were made before ethanol, you know, when the engineers assumed that only gasoline was going to be touching these, these components. And you introduced this high alcohol content gas that were being fed now. You have these unsavory chemical reactions and degradations that go on and it turns to goo, you know, and so I had to completely disassemble the carburetors, clean them and put them all back together. Now, the upside is, and this gets back to what we were talking about earlier, it's just a matter of putting it all on the bench and taking it all apart and cleaning it and putting it all back together again. It really didn't

cost anything to speak of other than some new gaskets. And my time. Yeah. And my time. The point is, at least I could do it. Yeah. You know, as opposed to with, you know, a modern direct injected car, when the direct injection system goes out, well, take you to the dealer and hand him a $3,000. You know, when he gets done working on it. That's amazing. And, of course, you know, a lot of this is being driven by the Republican Party and their alliance with Big Ag, because Big Ag wants to push ethanol on people. And just like they pushed glyphosate on people, you know, they were, they didn't care about

the health effects of glyphosate. You know, certainly they don't care about the effects of E15 on your car. because they don't care about the health effects of ethanol on your body. And so they want to put that out there. Why? Because if they spray ethanol on, not ethanol, if they spray glyphosate on these things, then they can produce more. And they don't care if it's poison.

They're selling it by the weight, right? There's another aspect of this that's interesting, too, with regard to ethanol. I'm glad you reminded me of it, because as with most things involving the Republican Party, it's a chip on top of that because they'll tell you, oh, look, it's less expensive, which is true. You pay less per gallon for the ethanol-laced gas, but your mileage goes down substantially. I mean, really, significantly. If you use 10, you're getting about five miles per gallon less than you would have with straight gas. Really?

That's the generally speaking. Yeah, I mean, I've done the experiment, you know, because ethanol, alcohol, is less energy dense. You know, it has a lower BTO than gasoline does. So, you know, you're going to be burning more of it to travel the same distance. So, you know, it's just, it's so of a piece that's these fraudsters. That's what they do. That's right. They sell you these cons and laugh in your face as they pocket the money.

Well, years ago, I went to a free market, mainly libertarian economics convention conference that was there. And they had all these different think tanks from different states and everything. One of them was hosting an event. And they said, we're going to do a speakey. and it'll be set up like a speakeasy. You just go up and you tap on the thing and when the people open up the little trapdoor,

you say, I'm here for the ethanol subsidy. I always think of that when I see the ethanol stuff. I thought that was really clever because it really is. Everything they do is about prohibition, isn't it? Even if prohibition doesn't work. So, yeah, let's talk a little bit about safety. You've got another article about safety,

something to know about safety. Yeah, you know, first of all, let's preface this by saying, It's kind of become almost a cult, hasn't it? This obsession, safety. It's not reasonable. You know, we're not talking about vehicles that are crash likely. That's my invention.

You know, a vehicle that has erratic, dangerous handling. The steering wheel comes off in your hand. You know, the brakes don't work. I would characterize that as an unsafe car. Now, is my 76 Trans Am unsafe because it doesn't have airbags? I don't think so. I've owned the car for 30 years. I've never had an accident in it.

I've never been injured by it. So I guess it's not very unsafe, right? So really, what we're talking about is compliance for the most part. When we hear that word safety, you know, they'll essentially equate if a vehicle doesn't have whatever the latest roster of requirements is that the federal government has imposed, your vehicle isn't safe. In 2029, all the cars are going to have to have something called automated emergency braking. Some cars do have that.

They are already, you know, kind of getting people used to that. But anyway, so what will happen is if your 2025 car doesn't have AEB, they'll characterize it as unsafe. The insurance mafia will say, well, you haven't got AEB. Your cars are unsafe and they'll increase your premiums for that. Yeah, because you never know if the car that's got the automatic braking, if it's going to just slam on the brakes for no particular reason at all, just slam on them. And then you're in behind them and you hit them. You're charged with the accident. Absolutely.

Absolutely. And another thing about it that's kind of interesting, you'll hear talk about, you know, five stars. It's got a five-star crash test score. Okay, you know, all that means is that they slammed it into a barrier or they hit it in the side with something. And that's fine, but it's relative to other cars of its size. So if you have a five-star rated subcompact crossover, let's say, that doesn't mean it's as safe as a half-ton pickup truck.

Hit the two together and find out for yourself. You know, they just, they mislead people. And also a lot of these, you and I've talked about this at blank. before, but it's worth talking about, again, so many of these safety requirements have made vehicles more likely to crash because of poor visibility, for example. They've jacked up the rear ends of the cars now because of rear impact standards. The problem is you can't see what's behind you anymore. And cars have to have a structure on the roof sufficient to support the way to the car if it rolls over. The problem with that is now you've got these at the windshield, at the

base of the windshield. These are the A pillars that support the roof. And behind that, the B pillars, they're now like this thick. So when you, you know, look to your right, look to your left and try to see whether a car is coming at you before you pull out and at the road, you can't see. So you pull out, boom, they hit you. That's not very safe in my book. That's kind of like, you know, the arguments going back and forth. I remember when they're talking about the Iraq War, they said, well, you know, should we have the soldiers wearing more body armor? Because if we do, then they can't move around as quickly. and it reduces their mobility and they're more of a setting duck. And that's exactly the thing.

You know, if you can't see what's happening, you're much more likely to have an accent. But of course, you'll be in a tank or something, I guess. It certainly is crazy. But, you know, it's when you're talking about that, and I've mentioned this on the show before, is one of my, another one of these things that's indelibly etched into my mind. And it was an engineering class I took and we were doing kinetics. and the problem that they gave us that said, you're sitting in this car and it weighs 2,000 pounds or whatever.

And this 80,000 pound truck is bearing down on you at X speed, right? And assuming a perfectly elastic collision and assuming that you have your foot on the brake and the coefficient of friction is such and such, well, with those assumptions, calculate the instantaneous acceleration on the occupants of that vehicle. and it was pretty comical, actually. Would you go through it and you run through the calculations? But that's exactly right. It's all about the weight and the energy transference, isn't it?

Yeah, and we have reached kind of a point of absurdity. You know, there was a lot of substantive improvement that occurred from, say, the 50s all the way up through the 80s. That was the era when we went from things like single cylinder master cylinders, which, you know, if you had a hydraulic failure with a single reservoir or master cylinder, in the old days this was like circa before 1965, you would lose all brakes, you know, front and rear. So they put in dual master cylinder, dual

reservoir master cylinder, which divided the front brakes from the rear brakes. So that if you had a hydraulic line failure, say with the front brakes, you still have the back brakes. That's a good thing. That was a great. Radial tires were a good thing. Disc brakes were a good thing. You know, all those things the market would have

said, hey, these are good things. People would have wanted them. But we have now reached a sort of reductio ad absurdum. We're like, okay, cars are safe, but how can we make them even safer? So they're coming up with like totally ridiculous things like a pedestrian detection system and airbags on the outside of the car now. So if you open to a pedestrian, you've seen, I'm not making it up. They have an airbag that deploys from the base of the windshield to come out and protect,

you know, protect the pedestrian that you might have hit. That's insane. Yeah. Of course, you see these videos all the time with somebody trying to collect some insurance. They don't know the person's got a dash cam. So they throw themselves on the car because they're going to claim that the car hit them, right? So I guess a person like that could total your car. They throw themselves on it and set off the airbags.

These eye movement monitors that are going to be required in a few months, you know, 27 models all have to have this. And I've experienced this with the number of the new cars that I test drive. They basically want you to be like a blinkered Clydesdale. You know, those horses that have the blinkers, they want you just to stare straight ahead. And if you dare, if you have the effrontery to actually be interested in what's going on around you, you'll start to get hassled by the car, you know, and it'll easily sit up straight like you're fifth grade again, you know, like I've had, I had a car tell me to sit up straight because my face wasn't quite in line with the infrared camera.

Of course, I solved that problem pretty quickly with some, you know, blue painters tape. I just, I put the painter's tape over the infrared eye and that solved the problem. Well, you know, it really is you talking about as being like back. in school because all of these issues that you're talking about, that's government-based and it's nanny government-based. When you look at, you're talking about all the improvements that were made in terms of technology with automobiles. We can say the same thing about airplanes, right?

Look at how airplanes went from, you know, the Wright brothers to massive 747s and so forth in the 20th century. Then we hit 2001. And now we've got the government deciding that it needs to make everything safe. And we've got the 9-11 false flag. And so now everything is about safety. We've got TSA and all the rest of this stuff. And look at how everything is just devolving into this third world situation.

And it's because we got highly centralized, highly hands on on everything, government. And they're just setting there thinking, well, now what can we tell them to do? You know? It is a, it's like a Simon Says type of thing. It's like Fauci, you know. They've got the power to give us orders. And they tell us to do things like put masks on your face, they stick six feet apart. Of course, they're going to do that with cars and planes as well.

Everything is about these arbitrary, petty rules of micromanaging every single thing in our life. And, of course, they're now giving themselves the power to do that to an even greater extent if we don't stop it. Yep. I'm with Mike Roe who says safety isn't number one. If safety is number one, nothing gets done. You know, there's a balance that has to be struck, prudent risks. I'm going to take a little bit of a risk when I fire up my chainsaw to cut up some firewood. It's a potentially dangerous tool.

But if I were completely terrified of potentially cutting myself with the chain, so I'd never have any firewood. It's just you can't function. This is, you know, risk, they're making people neurotic about risk. Life is itself risky. Getting out of bed is risky. You might slip and fall. It's a possibility. And they focus on all these hypothetical possibilities to the point now we're so attenuated,

Some trivial minor risk becomes the basis for infantilizing everybody. Yes. You know, it's like Harrison Bergeron, if you haven't read that. Oh, yeah. Yeah, a lot of people listening may not. I recommend reading that Vonnegut's story about how they just had to cripple everybody who in any way it was competent above the baseline average in anything. And of course, they did a movie of that too.

So you can look at the trailer for Harrison Bergeron, go to YouTube and look it up. And you'll get the idea right away as to how absurd it was. and how oppressive it was. You know, somebody having a, rebelling against the system as a ballerina because she takes the chains off when she's performing. It's just that simple and that stupid. And it's exactly the kind of society that we live in.

What they don't want fundamentally. The reason isn't safety. That's the superficial justification. What they don't want is the individual exercising judgment. Yep. Evaluating a situation on their own without being told. they don't want that. They want passive people who are just going to sit there and wait to be told what to do.

It's profoundly anti-human. You know, the whole point of living is that we interact with each other. We interact with the world. And we make judicious decisions. And in particular, growing up is all about that. You know, children learn that they have to figure out, okay, you know, if I want this, I have to do that. And is it worth doing it?

And I have to be careful about doing it. You know, the whole thing about you touch a stove when you're four years. years old because you don't know better, but now you do. You touch the stove and so you're more careful around the hot stove. That's progression from childhood to adulthood. What they want is to keep us in a state of perpetual arrested childhood. Yes, I agree. And that's where we are right now. And they want to make it even more so. I mean, you look at the people like Yuval Harari, talking about how he's going to control people. He's going to control us with video games. You're going to control us with a virtual reality and he's going to control us with drugs or whatever. And,

And that's all they're looking at. How can we pacify these people and keep them under control? I mean, it really is. When I go back and look at it, it's all these dystopian novels that we've seen for the longest time. And everybody is just doing their best to make them come to life, aren't they? Unfortunately, yeah. Boy, there's so many facets of this. One of them may be, too, the way they have estrogenated the population.

By putting all of these compounds into the water and the food, to particularly to kind of chemically castrate men. and make men in particular more feminine so that we have a more a more fear adult society, you know, a more maternal society that's worried about everything that might get us. And maybe it's because I've never drank well water that I'm the heretic that I mean, I drink, I drink well water. I don't drink. I don't drink the fluoridate water that comes out of the system. So, you know, maybe that's why I'm, and maybe you are, maybe that's why we're these outlying

heretics that we are. I grew up on well water. Yeah, Trump likes fluoride. You know, the Trump administration, the EPA, has decided that that poison should stay in. They had actually won a court case. And Trump's EPA has decided to appeal that and keep it going so they can keep the fluoride program going. I think that's a big tell, quite frankly, as well, if we didn't have enough of it with the Trump MRA shots. But we look at it. You know, as a Christian, I go back and I look at things like the description of humanity before the floor. it's just continually, the mind of man was just continually evil all the time. And then at the Tower of Babel, it's like, well, these people are all together with a common language, nothing that they imagine will be kept from them. And we're seeing the combination of those two things. We see the evil nature of men and power, because that really does seem to be what brings out the most evil part of your nature.

And then we see the fact that we have the capability with technology to do basically anything that they want. And I keep telling people, you know, you may not think that anybody would ever want to do something like this. And you may not think that anybody would ever have the technical capability to do this. But that's the danger that we're in. We don't realize how evil these people are. And we don't realize how advanced their technology is. And that really is what keeps us vulnerable, I think. Yeah, I think that's one of the biggest humps that we have to get over. We, meaning basically normal people, years and years ago, and you've probably seen the interview with the guy too. Yuri Besmanov, remember him?

No, I don't remember. He was a former KGB agent or official, higher-up official. He worked with Yuri ofropov back in the 80s. And he gave a number of talks with Edward Griffin, the guy who wrote the book, A Preacher from Black Island. And he talked about their method, about how they would ruin a society, you know, and it's really sick stuff. And, you know, one of the things that they talked about is just demoralizing the population,

you know, rendering that the population so. helpless feeling and beaten down and oppressed that they just kind of become dazed. You know, they lack initiative. You know, the old stereotype of the Russian guzzling his vodka. Yeah. Because what else is the poor guy going to do? You know, his life is out of his control. So he, he numbs himself with vodka. Well, what are we doing? We're numbing ourselves with stupid video games, handheld devices, porn, all this stuff, you know, to kind of take our minds off of the garbage that's that our lives are becoming. And it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's

to disconnect yourself from that. I think one of the key things is understanding and it's so hard that people are, there are some people who are that malicious, that cruel, that evil that's, that they actually mean us harm. It's not that they're mistaken, misguided people, you know, who are trying to do what they consider to be the right thing. So they're basically good, right? Yeah, you know, that's, because it's, you can't get your head around that.

I was watching a couple of weeks. ago, we watched really interesting documentary. It had a woman who was related to Ted Bundy. I think she was her cousin of Ted Bundy. She knew him. And they grew up together. And she knew him when she was college stage. And what a sweet guy. What a nice guy. My, you know, my uncle Ted is because Ted was like, you know, five years older than her or something like that. And it took her a long time to come to grips with the fact that this guy was out there killing people. Yeah. I've used Ted Bundy as an example of this. I said, the problem is that normal people look at somebody like Ted Bundy and they can't imagine that he would do something like that, especially because he's very charismatic

and intelligent and things like that. So he disguises himself, right? Like he's running for office or something. Yeah. I mean, Trump does. It's such a tragedy. You know, the things that Trump ran on really would have been, would not have been out of place on the Democratic Party ticket in 1960. You know, doing things to help the average guy in this country. That's right. Get the border under control, reduce costs of living, all of that. You know, I'm immensely sympathetic to the people who fell for it. They listened to this guy and he sort of sounded populist.

You know, he pretended to be a man of the people. And that's what they voted for. And what did they get? President Ted Bundy. Exactly. It's a real, it's a real shell-shocking thing to deal with. And we're right in the middle of this of people trying to deal with it. And I really hope that those good things, this idea of trying to make life better in this country, don't get cast into complete disrepute by this man.

I agree. I think that's why we're seeing the rise of the Democrat Socialists. I think he is pushing people in that direction because they look at him and they say, well, if he's a Republican and if he's a capitalist, I don't want any of that stuff. And of course, he isn't. He's not free market in any regard. He's not capitalist in any regard. And I don't even think he's Republican. I always call him a New York City Democrat because I think that's what he was and he always will be.

And I think his perspective on everything is exactly like that. Whether you're talking about gun control or any of the rest of this stuff, the guy is a Democrat. I think you're being too easy on him. He's a mafia don. You know, the character that he reminds me the most of is John Gotti. He's a lout. He even looks like Gotti. You know, he dresses in that kind of gangsterish way, behaves like a gangster.

He's just, he's allowed. Another person he reminds me, If you remember Biff the bully from back to the future, that's the kind of guy we're dealing with. Well, they actually said Bob Zemeckis and the people put it, they actually said that they patterned Biff after Trump. I didn't know that. Because it's pretty well known at that point in time. But yeah, it couldn't be a closer resemblance to him because I think they intended it that way. But they had his number way back then.

So, yeah, it is a shame. But yeah, that's the thing. we always project what we are and what we think people should be. We project ourselves onto other people, and that can be both good and bad. I remember seeing Harry Belafonte, he was so disappointed in Obama. He said, as a liberal, you know, he didn't think that Obama had done many of the liberal things that he wanted to do. He said, who is this guy?

I don't even know who he is. We saw him, and we wanted to believe that he was going to be like us, that he would do the things that we thought were important. We just projected ourselves onto him. And I see the same thing with the people with Amaga because there was a personality cult around Obama, just like this personality cult around Trump. Well, they haven't come to grips with it yet either. And of course, you know, Trump wrote in to his second term on four years of Biden. And I think that that was all part of the WWE show.

You know, Trump is in the Hall of Fame, the Wrestling Hall of Fame, not coincidentally. You know, four years of the LBGQ stuff, of all of the DEIs, all of that, you know, it was just four. thrust in our faces, thrust in our faces. You know, people were desperate for things to get back to the way they were before 2020. So Trump wrote that. I agree. Here we are. I agree.

I couldn't agree with you more. And it is a very deliberate thing. And, you know, it's basically a tag team match. You know, I'll put together the infrastructure for the vaccine and all the rest of the stuff, get this stuff wrong out there. You mandate it. You know, and then we'll both be able to point the finger of the other guy if need be and say, I didn't do it. He did that part of it, you know.

We see the same thing happening right now. Trump is keying all of this stuff up for the inevitable Democrat who will take his place. And he's paving the way for that. And, of course, I think the other aspect of it that also underscores it was a tag team was the weaponization that Biden did. That got people so upset that he didn't even, Trump didn't even have to go to a debate, right? He just was coronated as the Republican nominee. He didn't have to defend his position or anything. because he was a victim.

And so if they're coming after him, he must be a good guy if he's a... Sure. And the crowning event was that thing in Butler, Pennsylvania, which it took me. I was a little bit suspicious of it when I saw it, you know, the sold news cover. I'm 100% suspicious of it.

I don't believe it. Now, I know, because again, but it's the whole Ted Bundy thing because to really understand that they could have actually had the effrontery to stage something like that. Yeah. And looking back on it,

Absolutely. And that that kid that they set up as whatever, their MK Ultra Patsy, bring him up on the roof, you know, shoot him after he shoots a few innocent bystanders. And Trump, you know, raise his fist in the Iwo Jima pose with the ketchup packet on the side of his face. Yeah, I wish we knew how he grew back that ear because a lot of people could use that. Stephen Colbert probably would like to have to know how Trump grew his ear back, right? Right. It is crazy. And yet that became his new brand. And I thought it was interesting to see Zuckerberg and a lot of these other people. As soon as that happened, they caught on, I think, right away and threw their weight behind him.

Not because they thought he was some kind of a badass hero because he stood up and said, fight, fight, fight. Because I think they realized just how sophisticated and ruthless this team behind him was and what they would be able to pull off. And so it's like, that's the team that I want to be on. The only hope that I have is that when people are faced with an existential threat, which I think we're getting to that point, that their instinct for self-preservation will kick in. I think that we've gotten to where we are,

because for the most part, most people have been able to sort of balance it. You know, you're able to work, pursue your profession, raise your family, have a sort of decent life for the most part that allows you to overlook

a lot of these awful things that were going on. But it's now to the point where people are literally not able to afford to drive anymore. They're literally not going to be able to afford to eat anymore, to take care of their kids, to keep a roof over their head. These are existential things. And when that happens, maybe I hope people will actually kind of decide it's time we have

to do something, not just talk about it, not just post memes on X. Well, and that's the thing I think is healthy about the data center. Even though Trump is doubling down on this and all the Trump Republicans are going to fall in line behind him, this is a bipartisan issue. I haven't seen such strong resistance against a particular thing across the political spectrum for quite some time. The only difference is is that, you know, the left might oppose it because they think it's going to increase global warming or something like that or because of the noise or the water usage. You've got some people who oppose it because they really understand,

I think the great threat of it is the surveillance aspect of it, the purpose of it. All those other things can be mitigated. But, you know, for whatever reason, a lot of people are united in their opposition to them, even, you know, if they don't oppose it because the surveillance issues. And so I think that is a key thing. And I think it's very encouraging to see people rising up against the flock cameras, rising up against the data centers. And I think that's another reason over and above the massive, it's the economy stupid thing. You have the people rising up against these things. And on all of these issues, Trump and his followers were on the wrong side. Absolutely. Absolutely. I think we're at an inflection point on a lot of these topics.

It's data centers, war. And I'm encouraged because I do see a crossing of the lines. They've wanted to divide us to conquer us for generations. You know, keep us at each other's throats, conservatives versus liberals, blacks versus whites, all of this stuff. But we're beginning to recognize that there's common cause here, that we have a common enemy. And it's not each other. You know, it's these people. That awareness is dawning.

And, of course, that's dangerous because they, our enemies, do recognize that we're beginning to notice it. and see it. And they're probably going to try something remarkably awfully dramatic, I think. That's right. Which brings us back to where we started, which was Bill Burr saying they're not building the system because of what you're doing. They're building the system because of what they're about to do and how you will react to it. I think that's what we're looking at here. Eric, it's great talking to you. Always good to talk to a kindred spirit about these types of things. Thank you so much. Again, Eric Peters at Eric Peters, Thank you so much for joining us.

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