The David Knight Show - INTERVIEW Gard Goldsmith

Episode Date: October 27, 2023

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joining us now is we'll do a change away from this topic uh guard goldsmith great to talk to you guard thank you for joining us thanks for having me on david and uh terrific conversations i agree with you 100 well i won't throw you into that uh that briar patch but no well you know you know i was just sitting here having my mulek meat and mealworm on the side meal and i just thought i gotta join the future i don't know it's just uh i need to learn all this new stuff hey by the way i just wanted to compliment you again for bringing up i i literally had this right next to me when you brought up cold case christianity and i got it because of you so thank you so much you've done so much to help me.

And, uh, well, that's, that's a Warner Wallace who did that. He, he did a great job and he had an interesting journey to get to that point. Really was a very interesting book. Yeah. And yeah, um, yeah, when we're looking at this, why they, they really do want us into some kind of a soil and green thing. Isn't it, isn't it amazing how they just take all these science fiction movies and they start implementing them, whether it's green or 1984 or brave new world i mean it's crazy it's crazy they disconnect you from the natural world and and how you might feed yourself and getting connected to the soil and getting connected to your neighbors and as you were talking about with the psychedelics uh disconnecting from god and changing

your biochemical state in such a way that you're actually connected to a shaman to do something about that it's just it it's it's crazy and you know to to bring it up you talked about that uh that uh crime spree the murder spree in maine and whether or not the man was on psychoactive drugs. Nobody's really talking about that. So why isn't that part of the conversation? And isn't it interesting that when the Washington Post says, you know, so these psychedelics connect with a serotonin, and we don't really know what's going on there. And it's like, yeah, and you're not interested in finding out as long as it's the big pharmaceutical companies doing it.

You might question it when it is coming up with something as a competitor to the pharmaceutical companies like Magic Mushrooms. But you're not interested in it when it's their SSRIs that's doing it. They don't want to talk about it at all. Right, right. And as you said, there's a difference between mandating and compelling people not to take these things to the force of the state, engaging in aggression to tell people don't do that, and preaching to people. Just offering what I think is a good way to go. And you might want to try this. And, you know, I worked in a bookstore for many years, part-time, and we carried a lot of the alcoholics anonymous uh recovery material the books uh the

the recovery medallions for their 24 hours the one month and so on so a lot of the uh anonymous guys would actually come in and i'd have great conversations with them learning about so many of the patterns that emerged in the conversations now say you know i talked to this other guy is that similar with you and it was always the things that i learned are actually very applicable to uh anybody even if they don't have the classic um you know termed addictive problems um which is that they would typically look at their opportunity to ingest some sort of a drug and get away from things as their opportunity it's their chance they've sacrificed so much now it's my time to get away from things as their opportunity. It's their chance. They've sacrificed so much. Now it's my time to get away.

So our mother would go into the car and drink or, or, you know, do something like taking heroin or something like that, because they just felt that this is my time to withdraw and get away. And this is my release valve. And, and, uh, I found that that, you know, I, I think a lot of us feel those sorts of feelings. It's, it's just, if you've got those, especially if you've got that, that tendency, how do

you guard against that and protect yourself and make it a fruitful thing to release a little bit of pressure? How do you do it in a positive way? Can you help somebody else while you're doing it and have fun? Right. Can you learn something? Yeah. You know, we can do that in a lot of different ways.

I mean, we can get, uh, we can escape by watching TV or movies or sports or something like that, or we can get obsessed with it. You know, we can make it so that all we do is sit there and watch TV and now we're not living our life or we've lost our life because we're sitting there on the couch in front of television all the time, especially, you know, with sports, somebody can become a real sports fanatic or they can, there's nothing inherently wrong with it unless it becomes this thing that you lean on because it's an escape out of life.

And then when it's this thing that you're trying to escape with and it kind of takes over your life, that's when it becomes bad. And, of course, that can be anything. It could be food. It could be anything in your life as it starts to dominate and take over your life and take you out of life. At that point, it becomes evil. But yeah, you're right. We're not trying to, even things that I would think are harmful, I'm not trying to get the government to ban them, except, as I said, the mRNA, because i believe that's an outright poison to kill shot uh but in general i i don't believe in prohibition and um i i i'm not trying to get any force anybody into a particular religion or to agree with me in religion

and i don't want the government doing that either because what happens is the government winds up destroying that church that it joins. It joins the church and then destroys the church. And we know people like that too, you know, but, um, so true. So true. Look what they've done with marriage for goodness sake, you know, and thank you again for a, it's about a year ago reading that piece that I wrote about marriage on Substack, you know, don't put the state before God when it comes to marriage, you

know, going into the history of it and how they, they tried to stop blacks and whites from marrying. It's supposed to be a religious ceremony. And if you're going to get the government defining what marriage is, and you're going to have command and control, central control of things, you're not going to get what you want because the people who are going to be in charge won't be the people eventually that you want to be in charge. That's right. Marriage is a good example. It really is a good example of the mixture of church and state because it was a religious thing. And then the government gets involved in it. The next thing you know, government has defined it and defined it in a way to match with their religion of secular humanism, for example, and then prohibited all other form, all other opinions about marriage. And so that's what they do in a broad sense on any kind of religion. When you have the government getting into a religion, they're going to wind up taking

it in a direction that you probably don't want. Yeah. Yeah. And you know, it reminds me actually of the, it's that, that statement from a 19th century, the 19th century economist, Frederick Bosch, a political philosopher, where he said, the state is that great fiction by which everyone endeavors to live off of everyone else and as perhaps as that some folks want to celebrate halloween it is very vampiric and uh you know it's and it's and it is it's it's an interesting thing because it it removes people because they think everything's being decided in this sandbox every more stuff more toys have been thrown into the sandbox and they don't see that it comes at the expense of their neighbor it comes at their

expense they say it is coming as their at their expense so i have to dive into i have to decide how this is going to be steered i've got to get aboard this ship and no i don't want it this is the moral culpability that is the problem you know you we we've discussed um on on my streaming show we've discussed uh israel and and hamas and i constantly hear especially conservative talk radio hosts they're saying well what are we going to do about it and it's the all-inclusive government statist we it's like no i don't want to be part of your we why are you taking the royal we and claiming that somehow it represents me this is and i mentioned on my show as well the uh the

new york times uh bomber the one of the very few who actually was a terrorist that they got a number of years ago who was gonna he had a car and they ended up replacing the explosives that the guy thought that he was going to blow up in times Square, not New York Times, Times Square. And they asked him, how do you plead? And he said, I'm almost quoting verbatim. He said, guilty, guilty, a thousand times guilty. And if the U.S. government continues to do what it is doing in the Middle East, more American civilians are going to die because they buy into the same canard that we do.

It's the royal we that they've translated from you know old royal days where the the the monarch was laitette same wa i am the state to now you are all the the state it's all wonderful it's kumbaya it's it's we and they've wrapped their arms around you through force i don't just leave me alone i don't want to be molested just leave me alone i don't need joe biden sniffing my well i don't have any be molested just leave me alone i don't need joe biden sniffing my well i don't have any hair but you know what i mean yeah it's uh you know we look at all the different things that the u.s government does i don't want that imputed to me yeah that's not my policy i don't support that i didn't vote for that and i don't i don't uh agree with that in

any way shape or form and yet uh yet, that is the big issue. And so we need to understand the same thing about other people. That's what I said from the very beginning. You understand that the things that are done by the Israeli government to the Israeli people, using them as lab rats, but also to the Gazan people, that is not to be imputed to all the people living in Israel. The same thing goes of Hamas and the things that it does, not to be imputed to all the people living in Israel. The same thing goes of Hamas and the things that it does, not to be imputed to all the people living in Gaza,

just as I don't want what Biden does or Trump does imputed to me. I mean, if that were the case, since we created this vaccine, I guess everybody would be justified in terms of wiping America off the face of the earth because we sell those shots around the world. I mean, it's crazy when you look at it, but we have to understand, you know, what's really going on, but everybody's getting their bloodlust up. You know, and I see they brought journalists over to Israel and Joel Pollack at Breitbart was one of the ones that they took over to show. And he was just, you know, people were throwing up when they showed them the pictures of what had been done to people. I understand that. know, people were throwing up when they showed them the pictures

of what had been done to people. I understand that. And I wanted to throw up when I saw the pictures of what bombs had done to a little kid in Gaza. But you understand that it's not the visceral effect. We got to try to distance ourselves from that somehow and say, how do we break this cycle of violence? How do we get a lid on this thing instead of escalating it?

And everybody on both sides seems to want to escalate this. And they don't want to go back and look at the long-term agenda that we've had for decades with the U S and with Israel as well with Netanyahu, we got to get Iran. You know, that is a, it's like, okay,

so that's really what you're, you're pushing us for. You've got this geopolitical goal and you're going to use us as expendable for your geopolitical goal. And you don't care how many of your own citizens die, and you certainly don't care about the citizens in the other countries. As a matter of fact, you take that as a victory notch when you kill other people in other countries. Yeah, and it's interesting it I look at it almost like a combination of pretzel logic and convoluted circus performing where they'll they have all these various convolutions and they're very subtle so for example they the US government will

insert federal troops US troops without any declaration of war, on the ground in Israel. They'll put them on the ground in Poland, and in Poland, Joe Biden actually acknowledges to 101st Airborne, you'll find out about the Ukrainians. Oh, that's right. Some of you guys have already been there. Oh, really? I didn't know that you had them on the ground in Ukraine. Now you've told us.

And then we have john kirby talking about how well the uh advisors of the u.s military you know they put it in air quotes i suppose the advisors of the u.s military who are on the ground in israel they have a right to defend themselves but even that is is a it's a circumlocution of what is really the rights because and i i've mentioned this to people before i said listen do they really have a right to sure they have the right to protect themselves but if they're there illegitimately on somebody else's dime and the weapons that they have they didn't buy themselves then what right exactly are they exercising over there you know are they are they i mean if if if a mafia sends one of its mob guys to a new city with guns that they they got

through shaking down some of the local people in brooklyn does that man then have the right to use the fruits of ill-gotten gains or is there a is there a moral question there you know and i think there are major moral questions even in that sort of typical phraseology that we hear from people where they say well they obviously have a right there well you're not questioning the fact that you put them there illegitimately and if we're looking at the the weapons that they've got what if i don't want to pay for their weapons? And that goes to the weapons, even if the people of the United States aren't there, or if we're looking at the weapons that they send over.

Well, take a look at Syria. Talk about justification. Okay, we could be invited into Israel, and I'm sure they would love to have additional troops in there to work with them. We were not invited into Syria. We invaded Syria. We set up bases in Syria. And then we've had U.S. jets do do attacks today and they said they were retaliatory retaliatory for what retaliatory

because we invaded they attacked us in in response to that and so now oh now we're justified to escalate that uh that is the key issue and we have done that over and over again and so when you look at what is happening syria is a good example they've got their agenda what they want to do with oil they got their agenda with what they want to do with oil with iran as well as with iran's power base and and so this is about the geopolitics this is about the long-term uh animosity between iran and the u.s that goes back to the 1950s when we overthrew their elected leftist leader who wanted to nationalize industries and but of course in america we just think it was um you know the shah was always there he wasn't put in by us we don't know that the cia was training

his secret police and and we don't care or know anything about the about what he was doing to the people there and then just all of a sudden for no apparent reason uh there's this radical islamic regime that gets installed and they hate americans and we don't can't understand why they hate us yeah my my formative years came without that without that knowledge of the the the for the foreground to all of it so i came in with exactly those thoughts i thought why why do they hate americans you know why is it that uh that they've done this oh i just must i must make sure that i don't like iranians then i met a woman from iran she goes well you know it used to be called persia like what are you talking about you know i was a kid and i was like what she goes well let me tell you

what happened i'm like oh i see okay and you what happened. And I'm like, oh, I see. Okay. And, you know, David, it's interesting you should mention it because they have all these subtle means to, you know, there's so many perverse incentives. Anytime that a government institution or something removed from individuals claims power. So we've got the jabs. We've got the pharmakia, we've got the perverse incentives to gin the system and make sure that their money goes towards promoting a particular so-called public health agenda. And as you brought up, there is no such thing as public health, it's individual health. So anytime you remove it from the individual or free association,

and you're applying mandates and so on to people, there's an incentive for people to get in to have those mandates steered to their benefit, obviously rent seeking and economics, right? And we see the same thing with the military industrial complex, whether it's public health or so-called public defense, the further away, and the founders really understood this you know they wanted small decentralized localities really running their own thing and um i think that you know the lessons from exodus are very clear if you look at before they had a king you look at the system that they had they had the tribes they had the families they had the elders and the families who were the adjudicators it's much like ancient ireland uh much like ancient iceland they had

these locales localities and it was mostly reputation it wasn't statutes from the state thrown down at people and i think that um this is the sort of thing that a lot of people they just they just sort of blithely go along with it because they think that they've got these protective machines in the government and and the machines are just um they're they're designed to get taken over by people who will take advantage of them whether it's the uh so-called defense industry or not you know we've got a woman running for governor yeah a woman running for governor right now named kelly ayotte here in new hampshire former u.s senator i used to see her around she was the state attorney general i used to see her in a panera bread up in the state uh you know uh the capital and um so she was a senator for a while she got knocked out uh by a democrat she's part of the rhino complex she was on the

board of ba bae systems at the same time i believe that she was on the board of fox news yeah yeah big military industrial corporation yeah yeah exactly so that all these perverse At the same time, I believe that she was on the board of Fox News. Yeah, yeah. And she's out there. Big military industrial corporation. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So there are all these perverse incentives that we don't realize. And one thing I'd like to mention to you, David, to go back to what you were talking about, about the pharmakia and so on. You know, for a number of years, it's taken me a while to learn this lesson.

And I'm still trying to figure it out but um i i i think you and i discussed this once before you know having worked in television i was at the paramount um studios when i worked at star trek voyager and you know i really learned lesson coming from television and here's that there's this fine line between consuming entertainment as a minor distraction and understanding that it is a distraction and living yeah living that entertainment world completely removed yes and and it's a very strange thing because i think with the preventive uh with the pervasive nature of media, I was one of those people who I just thought, I live in New Hampshire, but I can go to Los Angeles. I can write. I can do all these things.

And it took me a while to really understand that lesson, that entertainment is just a minor distraction. And you can't constantly live in escapism and um i i really got the lesson just recently i was watching one of the old reruns of mission impossible and uh and i knew that they had shot it i thought i didn't know until afterwards i i thought you know those those look like the buildings they were pretending it was like poland or something like that you know but you could tell it was los angeles and uh and they had uh uh greg morris and uh the the guy uh the big guy they're they were setting up something in a van some of the mission impossible members it's from the 60s and yeah you know and and they're pulling up they they pull up on this

street and you know it's somewhere in you know just around the corner from a soundstage or whatever now because i worked at star trek right and uh so i thought to myself gee i wonder if that's paramount and i i looked at it more closely and i scrolled back and they pull into this alcove and it literally was an alcove that was just below my window at paramount and it's a it's a strange yeah it's a weird thing because then you start to realize how many generations of people have gone through that particular field of work and just you know they've gotten a contract they're doing a show like a guy doing a contract to build a house or lay down pavement or whatever it is you know it's a place where you can do work people invested and putting up the buildings people come and go they do their work

they do their shows like any other theater and as i've gotten older i've become i've become much more aware of how easily you can get drawn into considering that artificial world to be real yeah uh to you know and that's what we've got to be really careful about with uh virtual reality because it's becoming hyper real and yeah it's going to be so uh controlling to people that's that's funny no you were the paramount studios in california that's where you were and yeah yeah which star trek uh generation were you working with was it i was at star trek voyager and uh yeah yeah in fact my claim to fame i never got my name on the credits because i was always so low on the totem pole but my claim to fame is that i and i i hate to say this i hate to say this because Donald Trump, it's Operation Warp Drive.

But yeah, I don't have the hair. But I'm the guy who saved Warp Drive. So what happened was they had this season of premise for Voyager was that this crew of this Enterprise ship got teleported to some distant quadrant of the universe where nobody had ever gone. And it was going to take them years and years to get back. So they were having this adventure, a sort of lost in space sort of thing. They'd encounter new explorations as they worked their way back. And so they wanted to sort of speed things up they didn't they the time that they estimated at maximum warp drive to get back to the federation space it was going to be like six

years like yeah we're not sure the show's going to last that long let's see if we go faster like i'm glad you're not operating an ev you know we're gonna pause here and recharge at this planet you know i see jennifer granholm is is taking up all the spots i don't know what's going on so so they're they had this story where they had an alien who gave them this thing called um slipstream drive and again this is how you know it's it's entertaining and it's kind of fun it's sort of like talking about if you're a baseball card collector or you know oh i got this first edition of the rolling stones record or whatever you know it's it's entertainment and it's fun but then you realize like okay that's just a narrative and it's just fun to talk about it you know it's like

talking about your favorite you know jules verne story or something like that it's entertaining and hopefully you can draw a lesson from it and that's really what i've been learning as i mentioned with you before but so i'm i'm i'm literally the writer's guild fellow and i'm like nobody i've been there for like two days nobody even knows who i am right and uh so i'm sitting there hearing them talk about well yeah we've got this alien and it's going to be called slipstream drive and it's going to be so much faster than warp speed i was like well at the end of this show they're going to get back to the federation they're still going to have this technology so that means like this classic thing warp is now going to be gone they're going to get rid of it and they'll have this so i didn't know what to say because i wasn't really

in a position to talk and say i excuse me you can't you know nobody knew who i was right so at the end i knew brandon braga he's the guy who created the borg and he's a pretty pro liberty guy had lunch with him a few years ago nice guy and um and so brandon i wait i went out we we left the meeting it was all the writers are all together in this thing they call the break session and i was up at the board i was the guy who had to write down all their ideas as we broke it down into acts and scenes so they're going through it and and so i didn't mention anything during the during the uh meeting but at the end of the meeting i waited because i knew brandon Braga would be the last guy to come out. So Brandon Braga comes out.

He's one of the producers. And I say, hey, Brandon, that was a good meeting. He goes, yeah, yeah. What'd you think? I was like, yeah, it was good. I was like, oh, by the way, that flipstream drive thing. He goes, yeah.

I was like, does that mean that when the ship gets back to the Federation, warp drive won't be used in Star truck from now on. And he's like, Oh, we got to fix that. They're like, yes,

you do have to fix it. So that reminds me of, uh, that sounds like wag the dog, you know, or we got this prison. We're going to bring him back. Oh,

wait, we can't have this guy come back. It was cool. Old shoe. People are throwing their shoes up. That was the funniest movie. Well, what was funny was that both sides knew that this thing was just a made-up narrative. And so they're releasing information to change the narrative on the other side to their advantage as they're going through this made-up narrative.

That was quite a movie. It was. It reminds me when you're talking about that. I know we went out when the kids were, my sons were really small. We went out to Tahoe and I had that feeling that it was really strange because, you know, I'd grown up with a Bonanza and it was in the background on Sunday nights and stuff like that, you know, and so I would see it. And we're driving around there and it's like, wow, the sense of deja vu that I've been here before. It was really amazing.

Of course, the kids didn't have it because they didn't know what it looked like, you know, but it was this area where they had filmed it and, you know, watched it for years and years when I was a kid. And then all of a sudden I'm there and it was, it was like being on the set. Although it was, there had been shooting it on the natural area, but I understand. It is weird. I had a similar experience, uh, in another instance, um, my buddy used to, uh, he was staying at one of my brother's houses and he had a dog. And so when I would finish work, uh, I would go over to visit with the dog and let the dog outside and he would leave the television on for the dog.

Uh, and so I went in and typically when I got there, Bonanza would be on. And it was one of those old, you know, like first season Bonanzas, black and white. It was mostly soundstage with the backdrop that had been drawn, you know, with the, with the prairies in the background and so on. And I was watching, I was like, I don't know why, but I just get a feeling they shot this at one of the Paramount studios. I don't know why. Like, there's no reason to think that it I just get a feeling they shot this at one of the Paramount studios. I don't know why. Like, there's no reason to think that. It's just in a soundstage. So I waited for the, and sure enough, it was shot at Paramount, probably in the same soundstage where I was walking around, where they had built the Star Trek Voyager, you know, toy to play in.

And it really is. Well, you know, the interesting thing about it was the first couple of seasons, they shot it on a soundstage, but then they would do some outside shots in that area. And then they decided, well, let's build the real thing out there. And, you know, they built a purpose-built house. And eventually, Lauren Green and Dan Blocker and Michael Landon all got involved in terms of a part ownership of this thing. They set it up for tourists and stuff like that but they actually did have a ponderosa that they built uh physically built it and they built in uh you know different uh areas where they could hide the camera you know already got the shots that are built into this actual building but because they had been shooting it on the soundstage for a couple of years

they had to put the same background up so they had to kind of like a soundstage behind the the actual ponderosa that they built for continuity effect i don't know that anybody would have really noticed it but they did it anyway and so yeah uh i guess uh life imitating art or something like that but yeah you're right it really is about moderation you know and just because somebody is not going to become an alcoholic if they take a drink uh if they can do it in moderation. And so everything is about that. Entertainment can be that way.

Food can be that way. Everything needs to be in moderation. That's the real challenge to all of us. And we all have a different challenge and different things. And, of course, on the other side of it, even when we're talking about food, we have people who are trying to manipulate us into not doing it in moderation. You know, the junk food suppliers, they load that stuff up so that you don't do it in moderation. You know, it keeps you unsatisfied and looking for more. actually uh cure problems and cure maladies but to give you things that cover up the maladies and then extend the maladies and i'm beginning to think that it's not just who is going to what

what party or what uh nation state is going to win here or win there i'm almost getting the sense that this these decades and decades since World War II of all of these different flare-ups here and there, it's almost as if the military industrial complex knows they want to continue to push conflict, but only up to a certain point. Because if they go beyond that point, then they have to literally, they would get lots of production and so on and so forth, they reach a threshold where the where the economy would be so bad off that i think almost as if they've they've realized that they can sustain themselves at the maximum point and this is just my theory i'm just i was thinking about it last night i was like i wonder if they know that if

they just continually to have things simmer just below world war, that that's their best, their best profit margin right there, you know? And I don't know. I mean, I could be completely wrong, but you know, you see the way things are bubbling up there in the middle East.

Oh, Hezbollah is going to get involved and then attack Iran and that sort of stuff. And it couldn't lead to world war three, perhaps, or maybe they'll pull back. and then a few years from now we'll they'll do it again and of course we got to have more increasing uh money going to the military industrial complex and perpetuate those bases rather than having a complete world war that

ends up you know re you know moving all the chess pieces around once more they just keep their chess pieces on there rather than having everything removed they they slowly advance into our lives i don't know it's just speculation yeah and of course that all uh comes from standpoint of um their arrogance that they are in complete control yeah and they aren't you know they might get right up to that line and then things get a little bit out of control you know we're talking about the other day one person questioned it i said you know uh looks like we're at DEFCON 2. There isn't any, there's not a public description of that. Most people agree that after the involvement in Ukraine,

it took us to DEFCON 3. DEFCON 2 is the next level up. I don't know if what's going on in the Middle East takes us to DEFCON level 2 or not, but if there's a general consensus that we were at DEFCON three with what was going on with Ukraine, this whole Middle East thing looks like it is quite a bit more volatile and dangerous from a global perspective, I think. I agree with you.

And you might have heard, I think the cat agrees with you too. She's just entered the studio. I agree with you. And you might have heard, I think the cat agrees with you too. She's just entered the studio. I agree with you. And it troubles me greatly to see the way that you can't criticize the policies of the state of Israel without being accused of being anti-Semitic. You can't criticize the United States government overthrow of the Ukrainian government that was elected there in late 2013, and then the imposition through Victoria Nuland and Jeffrey Pyatt and all the others. And it amazes me that you've got these fatuous characters like Lindsey Graham talking about how they support israel in the meantime he's literally in photographs with ole tiani bach of the slovak party of ukraine who is a nazi yeah i

mean an avowed nazi literal yeah it's just and and that's not anti-semitic mr graham please come on you know it's amazing you you've got amy klobuchar in photographs with him, Joe Biden shaking his hand, John McCain not only meeting with guys who formed the Al-Nusra Front when they were in Turkey, they've got those photographs of them standing out there on a bright, clear day out there in the desert. But you've got him in photographs with Tiani Bak. It's just amazing you know and it it it the thing that that I I often consider David is you know they say that uh this is for our defense and so on I would prefer that they actually operate according to their oath to the constitution if they think there's the cat sorry the cat is very eager it's warm here she wants to go outside um so uh anyway um you know i'd rather rather than coming up with all these flimsy excuses that they're defending america and that if they don't continue to give weapons to israel

israel will somehow fall when they've been giving him 3..8 billion of weapons a year for years, I'd rather just be disconnected and protect myself. And you talked a little bit about that story out of Maine, and it's not that far from my home. And when I look at the forces of government on a regional level in the United States or state level in the United States. And I think about what they do to disarm us and make us more vulnerable here against criminals. It blows me away. I've got even conservatives now on talk radio here are saying, first, they're saying,

well, they seem to think that everybody in maine is carrying a weapon right which is absurd right with governor janet mills there they've got a lot of people who moved up there especially from massachusetts it's not old time maine yeah there's a lot of wilderness there but if you go to a lot of the cities they've they've gone very purple the other thing about it is that the place where that man committed his murders and alleged, but the people died. This particular man is alleged to have committed these murders, was a bowling alley and a bar. And the bowling alley serves beer. I looked up their website Maine has a statute that prohibits anyone who owns

a bar or any place that's serving alcohol from allowing anybody into their premises to carry a firearm that's an infringement on property rights and standard Frenchman on the freedom of contract and it's an infringement on the right to keep and bear arms in all those areas so this guy picked soft targets and and no one no one had firearms there so that's the first lesson then then the second lesson is i'm hearing conservatives actually they're insinuating that well this man had mental stability problems he threatened people on the military base. So why wasn't somebody taking away his firearms? You're a conservative. Now you're talking like Donald Trump and we do the due

process later, which isn't due process at all. Now you're actually saying without the terminology, red flag, the guy, how about this? If he threatened people, you charge him with criminal threatening and then you put him in jail. And you have a trial about that and you say, so did he threaten people? You know, what's his motivation for that? Oh, he's crazy also. Okay, well, we'll deal with that as well. Yeah, exactly.

You give him due process. And so it just like with hate crimes, I'm hearing conservatives now, especially in New England, because it's so close to home. People are talking about how, well, something's got to be done. Well, if something had to be done, clearly there was a problem with the guy. If there was a problem with the guy, he's either bad enough to be put in jail and you can prosecute him or he's not, that's it. You put them on trial. And if you don't have them in jail, then clearly you think he's safe enough to be out on the streets. Yeah. Yeah. And of course, you know, besides the alcohol being there and it's, it's not legal for them to take it, they had a sign at the bowling alley, you know,

right above the sign that says, choose your weapon. They said, don't bring your firearm in. Yeah. And it's like, choose your weapon. You want a small bowling ball? You want a big bowling ball? Um, or you want to small caliber or big caliber choose your but don't bring your weapon in here and so again as you point out it's a soft target and that sign uh didn't stop anything

did it you know i mean that's that's the key uh what they did was they they kept people who were law-abiding rational citizens uh from having weapons that they could use to protect themselves it's just like the luby cafeteria and um uh in texas and um and what happened with that woman who was a dentist and she left her you know said well you can't bring it in here it's like all right left her left her firearm in the glove compartment and then this guy drives his truck through the side of the of the building there and starts shooting people and she oh, I don't have my weapon with me because I, they told, there was a sign there telling me I couldn't protect myself. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

Uh, it's, it's troubling and, and, you know, thank goodness we can talk about these things and try to set the record straight. And I think that, you know, with, with your program, you have have tremendous tremendous capacity to be able to cover all these different stories and um you know i my work at mrctv i throw stories up to the editors and things like that and sometimes we have disagreements you know the folks at mrctv um brent rosell and mark levin are very good friends and i have massive problems with many of mark levin's positions especially you know some some of his sort of rhetoric and so on. But they're very, very good to allow me.

I mentioned in a recent piece about Joe Biden throwing weapons around the world at the same time that he's starting a new White House Bureau of Gun Violence Prevention. I was like, the hypocrisy of this guy is unbelievable. He wants to give billions of dollars in weapons to Ukraine, and they did allow me to hyperlink to Israel in my piece. So I thought, okay, there's give and take here, and I'm very glad to be able to chat with you and the opportunities you've given glad to be able to you know chat with you and and and the opportunities you've given me to fill in for you and then you know doing my my streaming show to get this

information out that that you know even when you have some conservatives you say no we gotta disagree here you know let me bring up a different perspective for you and um i i heard uh one of my uh acquaintances in boston talk radio she says what are we gonna do about what's happening in israel and again i say you know why what is this we why do i have to have anything to do with that you know so to me that's a really big deal and and it's great also to think that we can sort of circumvent some of the, um, some of the sensors that have been brought up against us and with the, with the listenership and how supportive they've been, you know, I've been able to start up my Liberty conspiracy

show and my sub stack, and you've been able to sustain it pretty well with all the people who came over from your show and they're in my chat and they're saying, hi Gardner. I'm like, wow like wow you you folks are just great it's so fantastic and you're there liberty conspiracy on rockfin uh monday through friday at what time uh monday through friday starting at 6 p.m eastern and then uh yep and we're streaming live at rumble and rockfin and on my Twitter feed at Guard Goldsmith. And in addition to that, I have the sub stack and I'm taking little video pieces and I'll put them out at sub stack and so on and so forth. The latest one was about Halloween. There's a second part about that coming out.

And I just got asked, and this is something I want to mention to you, David. I just got asked, you know how Ian Freeman was convicted and he's going to be appealing the conviction but yeah he's going to tell people ian freeman uh they may not be familiar with the name because it hasn't been covered by the mainstream media much but it's no no important um precedent that's being set there tell people about ian freeman well ian freeman and his business partner mark edge uh came up from florida with the Free State Project to join fellow libertarians. They moved to Keene, New Hampshire, and they started their radio show decades ago in New Hampshire. And I was doing a separate radio show in New Hampshire, and they were so kind.

They invited me over. They said, hey, how would you like to sit in with us on Wednesday nights? And I said, sure. So I would go and sit in with them and terrific people and uh ian got started very early in bitcoin and made amazing profits off it and started his own bitcoin exchange and also got some of the bitcoin kiosks for people locally other free state project members who might want to start their own ian was prosecuted because he was dealing with a guy who wanted crypto, and that guy was defrauding people.

And they said that Ian wasn't looking closely enough into a sort of know-your-customer type pattern. Which they're now putting on steroids. They ramped this up. They've got 300 pages of regulations. Congress said, we want you to do it, but, of course, the devil's going to be in the details, putting on steroids and they've ramped this up they got 300 pages of regulations congress said we want you to do it but of course the devil is going to be in the details and the details are going to be created by the regulatory state and the irs has got huge uh 300 pages to basically

end anonymity for anybody that's got crypto in any way shape or form but also exposing people to a lot of identity theft risk because it is so pervasive and and broad-based and it also is set up as i think it's one of the reasons they came after ian was because they said well this kind of this vague thing as to whether or not you're able to get this if you have the ability to get all this information on people then you got to do it and it's like like, well, that's kind of vague. And so to have that case there with Ian Freeman said, well, if you don't collect this information, we may at some point in time determine that you were able, and now we're going to give you the Ian Freeman treatment. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, absolutely.

And that's one of the ways. The appeal is going to be very complex. freeman treatment oh yeah oh yeah absolutely and that and that's one of the ways you know the appeal is going to be very complex uh there's some question as to whether or not this is uh bitcoin is a security or a currency so whether it's the sec i mean it's all confused and it's all based again it's it's how many angels can dance on the head of a deadly pin the pin shouldn't exist the federal government should have nothing absolutely nothing to do with this and um and agents of the state you know if people if people want to police this then let them go ahead and invest in something to police it first getting the state involved means that they're forcing their neighbor to pay for what they think

should be necessary enforcement of something that's immoral period there's nothing there's nothing that excuses that and uh so ian has to looks like he has to go to federal prison for eight years right now he's in a state penitentiary and he can make phone calls and so on and so i've gotten a number of phone calls from him literally from he's in his cell you can hear it echoing and uh he's talking to me on a tablet uh he called yesterday and um he has asked me on friday nights now uh so their free talk live show goes seven days a week and he asked me if on friday nights i can provide recorded segments that will go out on the stations that they've connected to, to lever preposition dangling.

That's 175 stations. Nice. And, um, yeah, I guess they're on the GCN network. So, yeah. So, you know, our interviews, uh, when, when you want to hop on, when Tony Arterburn wants to hop on, it just had Eric Peters. Yeah. And so, yeah, it'll go out.

I think, you know, it's up to me they're going to be recorded it won't be live but it is because of you helping to keep me in the game and not game but in this line of work in addition to mrc tv that i've been able to do you know these little pieces here and there to just get these get these messages out there you know to get around these these these censorious minds uh well you keep yourself in the game because you keep yourself informed and i know you work really hard to do that and uh and that's the key thing you know you have a lot of information uh people uh subscribe to your sub stack you put out a thing every sunday night uh and um and pick up some key stories.

And you have a really good sense of a broad base of stories. It's not a repetition of what you typically see or even what I have here. It's things that you found on your own doing a lot of research. So I highly recommend your Substack to people as well. Thanks, David. And, you know, one of the things that really gets me is when you know you've got allies not to stress this too much but when you know you've got allies who are helping you out uh and who believe in the principles that you believe in that's the main

thing it's the principles that you believe in and what really amazes me is when i think about uh the forces that are arrayed against us and you brought up news guard and i gave a comment and you're like oh he's the news guard you know and uh we we've got michael hayden yeah on the board of news guard a man who openly admits to you know overthrowing people to be involved with spying lying this sort of thing um it's just incredible to think about the fact that they were getting my tax money and they were sending mrctv messages to say okay have you know gardner goldsmith uh respond to us about this article that we're if you don't respond to us we're going to claim that it's false and all they have to do is click on the hyperlinks that are in my articles and they'll get the the information it's amazing how many

tentacles they've got i i saw something about sydney powell who is now flipped and uh well we don't know if she's flipped or not uh maybe she flipped a long time ago but they flipped her lid but but she was getting you know even after she said um you know pleaded guilty of this she came back out and still pushing uh her narrative about the election and i noticed in one article that there was a guy that she relied on there was a former cia guy and it's like they've got their tentacles and everything pushing these is it kind of like what pachinik did with the sting this guy's pushing stuff to sydney powell maybe she believed it i don't know but you know they've got their stuff there you talk about michael hayden these are the guys who

created the ayatollah khomeini as blowback as ron paul always talks about you know they're constantly doing coups and assassinations censorship fake narratives and it's just amazing how destructive and evil they are and how they're everywhere you know it's not just uh you know operation mockingbird where they're feeding stuff to walter cronkite or whatever they're everywhere they're pushing this stuff to everybody at every level even an alternative media media, even to somebody like Sidney Powell pushing stuff to her. So true. So true. And, and, uh, I it's, it's funny, David, because I can get frustrated and, and, you know, you get angry sometimes, uh, when, or one gets angry sometimes.

I do too. Yeah. Yeah. You know, okay. Yeah. And, and the other thing about it is, you know, working in this field, I think a lot of times, especially I'll listen to a talk radio host in the morning or you know sometimes maybe people feel like they have to emote that much more that sort of thing and and you don't want to be too manipulative and too self-analytic and things like that you just want to be yourself sometimes you naturally will get angry but i get so tired of this shrill you know like mark levin i get so tired of these people who oftentimes if

you were to sit down in conversation with them you might agree on a number of things and and and this is the problem that i see so often in politics and commentary about politics where there's a there's this fine line between attack attack attack and I'd rather win over somebody and I don't know where that line is many times you know to to say look this this person is an enemy you know versus how can I win this person over but I think people want to see conflict I think that you know Trump understands that the Democrats understand it you know Martin James Carville said well they're they're going to impeach Trump.

How do we get this lucky? Trump thrives on this persecution. And it is persecuted. Everybody sees that it's unequal application of the law. And he thrives on it. And he invites it. You know, we just look at what he's doing in court. You know, the judge says, don't say anything about me.

Or the other people say he says something about it. He gets a $10,000 fine and immediately does it again on true social. He wants a $10,000 is nothing to him. You'll make a lot more than that with donations if everybody gets angry. And so that's a key part of it is getting everybody on both sides of this angry. That's why I said, even when you look at something as horrific as the, um, uh, the, the deliberate mutilation by these terrorists of children, killing them, and or the kid with half of his brain blown out of his skull from a bomb or whatever, you can get yourself to the point where you can fall into the trap of getting so emotionally involved in it.

And we should so emotionally involved in it that uh and you know we should be emotionally involved we shouldn't be um so um you know cold to all this stuff but we have to also try to keep our head and say well how do we this is awful how do we try to minimize this right instead of just uh running off with a bloody shirt and uh and uh you know i'm gonna get even i'm gonna get vengeance for this or whatever we have under, we have to try to pull back and say, all right, but how do, is there anything that we can do to try to minimize this? I don't really see any good decisions there of what we do about this stuff, frankly, but I know that, you know, if we just get ourselves, uh, selves ramped

up and psyched up to, uh, kill the other side, whichever side we're on side want, that is definitely going to be the wrong way to go. David, I'm curious, you know, as a father who you and your wife raised children, you know, I've only experienced it as an uncle, but to how you go about, how you went about that balance between showing the kids the dangerous, the malicious people out there and not getting too wrapped up in that attack mode when, because you want to teach people, you know, youngsters, look, that's bad that behavior is bad and how you you make sure that they don't get cynical they don't get jaded as you're giving them these examples because there's so many examples throughout history i'm i'm sure a lot of that has to do with with faith in god i i would assume but i you know i don't know if i'm expressing it right dave but i was just thinking about it as as i was watching you.

And I thought, gee, you know, you've raised kids. You've done such a great job as a father and your wife, as a mother. And I think to myself, you know, to allow the children to see the dark side and not become cynical, to know, hey, watch out. This is bad stuff. Well, you know, I don't know it is it is difficult to not become cynical but i think uh another part of it is is that we have to um we have to focus on positive things right and if all we do is look at negative things this is one of the reasons why when i go through the news i really do feel compelled to get preachy as keith called it you know um i i feel like i to give people some good news and some good hope. Uh,

and there really is a good hope out there and, and it's not all doom and gloom, you know, so there's evil, but we don't have desperation, you know, and all around us, there's darkness and evil, but we don't have to, uh, be, um, uh, overcome by that. And so we overcome evil with good. And one of the ways that we do that is by focusing on what is good and pure and right and just. And that is a real healing thing to us, better than any psilocybin mushrooms or anything else, is to look at what is true and just and eternal. And we have to focus on that. And that's why I talk about this stuff, and I have to do it for my own benefit because I can't look at this abyss on a day-to-day basis

as much as I do, and it would just drive me nuts if I didn't have something that was good and pure to look at. And so I don't want to leave people without anything, any good news when we look at all this bad news that's yeah that's that's well stated you know it's funny david uh uh we have some neighbors who uh were they moved into this area before my family did about a year before and they had an old farmhouse and named the driscolls and And they had three kids,

all born before I, and they were more my brother and sister's age. My sister's five years my elder, my brother's seven years my elder. And you make me think about, I went to visit Mr. and Mrs. Driscoll recently, and they were always just wonderful hosts. They were just great. You'd go over,

we'd be playing baseball in the little field that they had that no longer had crops on it and most of it but you know we'd be playing softball or whatever and going sledding down the hill and that sort of stuff and then mr driscoll actually did cartooning for nasa during the uh apollo mission he was part of their like pr team and stuff very very good artist and he brought out drawings that he had done of us as kids playing baseball cartoon yeah little spoofy cartoons with the dog chasing running away with the ball and things like that and he had been in the military and i mean he was in his 90s he was in korea and um you think about some of the terrible things that those people saw, you know, my dad was in world war two.

He saw a man burned to death, an Australian pilot burned to death inside his plane, uh, on the, on the tarmac. And my dad went to try to get him out. My dad was burning his hands. He couldn't, he couldn't get the cockpit open. And you think about some of these terrible things that people see, and yet they, they find the positive and it's it's through well i i would hope that it's it's through their their soul and recognizing who is there behind it all and um just

a little while ago so i went to visit the driscolls and it was like it was like a second hadn't gone by and i was in their house and uh enjoying the smells in the sense walking across that doorstep that i'd walked across so many times as a kid and um i saw mr driscoll he was going to be going in for heart surgery and um so he did and he got out and but unfortunately he passed away um just a few weeks ago so we were at the memorial service and i was on saturday and i thought about how when they found out that there was a new house that was built just through the woods uh behind their house mr driscoll uh got a lawnmower and he cut away branches and stuff and he created a path so that we could walk over

to their house because he knew yeah he knew there were going to be kids there and he maintained it and then our eventually our footsteps maintained it knew there were going to be kids there and he maintained it and then our eventually our footsteps maintained it and there were other friends beyond that five kids we had gangs of kids just so much fun you know flashlight tag and all sorts of stuff and i said and so we were at we're out there at their um at their methodist church and i i got up to say something at the memorial Saturday. They asked if anybody would like to come up. And I said,

you know, Mr. Driscoll had an artistic eye and he, he somehow he could see that landscape in the woods and he could see a trail. I was like, but he saw a greater trail. He saw a trail that was given to us by Christ. And it was,

it just made me think about that. If you can just see that trail, you're on the, you're on the path, you know, and, and it's okay. So anyway,

um, well, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's,

that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, what a great story that is,

uh, before we run out of time, uh, I, I know that you, um, well, that's, that's, that's, uh, what a great story that is, uh, before we run out of time, uh, I know that you, uh, are a writer as well, and you've got a book that is coming up. Is it, uh, been published yet or is it still coming up? Well, yeah, interestingly enough, um, you know, as we come towards Halloween, um, so I have three novellas that are out. One is called bite and that's about a vampire hunter in las vegas it's sort of a cold check the night stalker takeoff uh then there's wall which is

crypto archaeology about a great wall of china before 10 000 years before the great wall of china and uh there's another one called fishing and that's a dark uh mass murderer on the loose in western massachusetts in the 70s just around the end of the hippie era and that's got a lot of dark stuff in it so if people are they want to be careful and that's some violent scenes in that but the sequel to bite has been done for ages and i actually had a book contract uh that was the one where it was it was actually sawan publishing sam hayne as some people might call it so as we come to halloween it's appropriate and uh it was a it was a mid-sized publishing company but they wanted me to split my writing name from my political name and i said why would i do that i'm not going to do that so i declined

the contract and it has not been published. So there's that, which is the sequel to bite the novella. And then I have this other one called teamizer, which I actually started, uh, in 1984 when I was a student at Boston university, uh, I came up with this idea that the T was an evil underground dystopian empire.

And it was, it had gas that was making people ride to the end of the line sort of like you will ride for forever neat the streets of boston he's the man who never returned you know charlie the the guy that's right and their cards are actually their t cards their passes are called charlie cards i'm like i don't want one of those. Am I ever getting off this thing? Kingston Trio, yeah. Yeah, Kingston Trio. So that's called Teamizer, and it happens in 1988. And Mike Dukakis is a dystopian bad guy who's trying to take over the planet by getting everybody out of their regular cars.

Into a tank? And out of public transportation. And I came up with it. I didn't have the idea for, like, you know how they had cash for clunkers yeah all right well i had that concept in there in 1988 i started writing this novel in 1988 at the teamizer novel and he's called teamizer like heat miser and snow miser they miser their tokens they won't pay their tokens because they have fingerprints on them and they track them so um so i had this idea that yeah they will give everybody a pass for the public transit because he wants everybody on public transit it's infused

with gas and hypnotizes everybody to love the government and they'll have people trade in their gas guzzling carbon emission cars for these public transit things and i was thinking about that in 1988 right but they didn't have a title for it way ahead of your time that's great oh yeah it was emission cars for these public transit things. And I was thinking about that in 1988, right? But they didn't have a title for it. Way ahead of your time. That's great. Oh yeah, it was nuts. And so when they had the cash for clunkers, I came up, I wrote after the fact, I went back in and call it T for trashers, the T pass, the Boston T pass is T for trashers.

So the guy comes back. Yeah. This, the main character comes back from vacation and his girlfriend has sold his car. He's like, I gotta get to work. Where's my car? She's like, I sold it, man. You got a tea pass. Yeah.

That's, that's, that's where we're headed for sure. We're almost out of time. Tell everybody where they can find you. And again, uh, I would also recommend people to go to the nights of the storm.com and they'll see schedules for guard for this show, for many shows as well as their many shows. But tell people where they can find you again, guard. Okay. Yeah. Well, first thing I'll say, I'll mention again, it looks like tonight I will, um, tonight I'll be going live at Liberty conspiracy as i do every monday through friday starting at six

on rumble and rockfin and on my twitter feed at guard goldsmith gard goldsmith not news guard thank goodness and uh yes and uh no michael hayden behind me that's for sure although we're both bald uh but um so six o'clock monday through friday uh Rockfin and Rumble for Liberty Conspiracy and also my substack, Gardner Goldsmith substack. Great. Then I should know by 6 o'clock tonight if the Free Talk Live stuff goes out there. That'll be on all GCN network affiliated stations as long as they pick it up at 7 o'clock tonight. And I have to say before we close off, I've got to say thank you to a couple people who

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I'll do that on Monday because we're out of time. But I just wanted to thank you all. Thank you for the support this month. We are donor supported. That is the bulk of what happens with this, especially since the advertising thing with Pride Month. So thank you so much for the support. And I'll get those names.

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