The David Knight Show - INTERVIEW Glenn Jacobs on His Meeting with Deborah Birx and the Remaining Dangers from Lockdown Precedents

Episode Date: March 28, 2024

The inside story on masks, scarves, and hoodwinks. Glenn Jacobs the Mayor of Knoxville County, TN on his meeting with Deborah Birx and the lurking dangers that remain from the precedent of public health emergency powers. Was Birx the real architect of the failed policies? Did she have information the public didn't have? Follow Glenn on X or Instagram: @GlennJacobsTNFollow Guest Host Gard Goldsmith at Liberty Conspiracy on Rokfin and on X: @GardGoldsmithFind out more about the show and where you can watch it at TheDavidKnightShow.comIf you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-showOr you can send a donation throughMail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @[e-mail] App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Money is only what YOU hold: Go to DavidKnight.gold for great deals on physical gold/silverFor 10% off Gerald Celente's prescient Trends Journal, go to TrendsJournal.com and enter the code KNIGHTBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.

And now I want to welcome my guest to talk about what he experienced. In the next 10 minutes or so, we're going to be joined by Glenn Jacobs, mayor of Knox County, and a man who can relate to us his experience as the United States tried to step in and claim that they could do everything on the federal side, even tell us what jobs were essential and what jobs were not essential. Glenn Jacobs is with us. Hi, Glenn. How are you? And good morning. Good morning, Gard. How are you doing? I'm doing great. Welcome to the David Knight Show. I usually see you in other forms. It was great to see you weekend before last. I really appreciate it. Great to see you. Great to see you. You gave us a great speech. And, folks, if you're not familiar, Glenn is down in Tennessee.

He also used to live up in New Hampshire. We got to know each other real well. A lot of pro-liberty themes we would discuss, have great times. And Glenn is down in Tennessee now, and he's the mayor of Knox County. And Glenn, during his speech here in New Hampshire a couple weeks ago, stopped up for the Free State Project, gave a terrific speech about some of his experiences in his position as mayor of Knox County, meeting with some of the officials from Washington. And in particular, we have

Deborah Birx. Right, Glenn? Yes, sir. Quite, the conversation we had. Oh, yes, indeed. I happen to report from MRC TV about a couple of things. One was the fact that Deborah Birx and I'll put this on the screen for both of us. Deborah Birx admitted in Washington in April that if someone dies with a positive PCR test, they're counting it as a death from COVID caused by COVID, which, of course, means that no one can ever know how many people died from this virus that they said was a pandemic. But they can't say it was a pandemic. subsidized hospitals to the tune of sometimes four times what they normally would have gotten from insurance if they got people on breathing apparatuses and claimed that they had been dealing with them for COVID. You met with Deborah Birx. When was this? And tell us, tell the audience of The David Knight Show a little bit about just what she revealed to you behind closed doors, Glenn. Yeah, this was in 2020 when COVID was kind of really kicking up. And she came to Tennessee.

The reason for that was she was touring all the Southeastern Conference schools. So she had been to Kentucky, to Lexington. She had been to Tuscaloosa, Alabama and came here. And what our media did locally is, oh my gosh, things are so bad that Deborah Birx is coming. Well, it was actually just a routine thing that she was doing, going around the country, telling people what to do. But nevertheless, it was not like we were having this big emergency here that required a White House intervention. It was Deborah Birx on tour.

I could have got the tour scarf. Yeah, exactly. I wish I had gotten a T-shirt. I would have thrown it in a bonfire later. But in any case, if you're so inclined, please pick up and read a copy of Scott Atlas's book, A Plague Upon Our House, in which he lays out what was going on behind the scenes. And we all think of Fauci as being the COVID guru. Well, Fauci was the face of it, but it was really Birx who was the architect of everything going on. And recently, she even admitted that, you know, this whole thing about 15 days to flatten the curve was really a Trojan horse to bring in the lockdowns and much more long-term restrictions on the American people. But when she came here,

we met at the University of Tennessee in one of the big conference rooms. And there were, oh gosh, probably 20 people there. They all had PhDs and MDs with the exception of me. It's in the room. And we're all sitting there wearing masks, sitting 25 feet apart. And the ironic thing about the masks was you couldn't hear someone when they were talking. So they would take the mask off the talk. And I'm like, let's see if this is supposed to be stopping spittle from coming out and spreading through the air that's a heck of a way to do it nevertheless though what struck me was first of all um you know burke's going back to atlas's book burke's did not actually have all this tremendous knowledge that was being ascribed to her. She was pulling statistics from publicly available

stuff, such as reports coming from the States, even some websites. So what she was saying as authoritative knowledge was not at all. And we hear these daily death counts and daily case counts. Well, the problem with that is how were they getting those from? And in many cases, they were aggregated over a certain period of time, whether it was over the past few weeks or whatever, but they report them as one day. And these were not real-time statistics. And as you said, they were very flawed because of the methodology that was being used to gather those stats.

But the thing that really got me was someone asked her, what should we do here? And her response was, well, you need to shut down your bars and restaurants, especially those around campus. And to their credit, someone pointed out, well, Dr. Birx, the data shows that the virus is not spreading in bars and restaurants which frankly we all knew and she replied yes that's true but we have to send the message that this is a serious situation it was a pr campaign it was marketing yeah it was theater um and that's what throughout coven i mean all the mass mandates, all those things. Now we look back and we realize that, you know, masks are ineffective.

The reason that doctors wear masks in operating rooms is not to prevent airborne viruses. It is to keep blood out of their faces and mouths and to keep the spittle out of wounds. OK, masks can be effective against bacteria, which are much larger than viruses. In order to have a mask, which would be effective against the virus, you have to have a respirator because you would inhibit the airflow

to the point where you couldn't breathe because that's how small viruses are. But nevertheless, we were told at one point that masks were the most important thing you could do. No one knows where the six foot came from. I mean, Fauci's admitted that. I think we did get a good lesson in hygiene and hand washing. That was probably productive. But that was maybe one of the few and locking our kids out of schools, I think, are arguably the two biggest policy mistakes that this country has ever made. And I know the world.

I was going to say, Glenn, I know that you fought very after you got agreements and then you had more pressures and so on. And but you really stood tall in that area trying to go against a lot of this nonsense. And it's incredible to think that Deborah Birx can be celebrated by people in the pop media as some sort of heroine when she was just deceiving people all along. And as you mentioned, you know, Scott Atlas's book is terrific on that front. And I didn't know that, you know, back in the era of the AIDS, you know, not I won't say scare, but the initial days of AIDS, when she had found out that there was a tainted blood supply. I think I read this in Anthony Fauci's book, but I might have read it elsewhere, where she was going to have to go through a C-section and she was aware of the tainted blood supply. And she was

actually cited as having yelled out as they went into the emergency area for the surgery. She said, don't give me a blood transfusion. She was aware of it, and she didn't tell anybody else back, you know, before she joined up with the Trump campaign, the Trump team. It's amazing to see this, Glenn, and I think, unfortunately, so many people turn to these central authorities, and they think they have this power. How was it for you? As you say, you know, you tried to stand up against the masking and so on. But the composition of the Tennessee government really made it difficult, right?

Yeah, I think a lot of people were shocked to see what was in our state laws concerning emergencies. Now it's true around the country. Here in Tennessee, Governor Bill Lee is a great guy. He's a solid person. But I think we were all pretty stunned to realize that under the emergency powers that he had been granted in legislation concerning emergencies and health care crises, that he could literally act as a dictator through his Department of Health. Now, he did not do many of the things that other governors did, such as Gretchen Whitmer and Cuomo and Newsom. Thank goodness. But if it had been someone else than Bill Lee sitting there, we'd have had a real problem. And, you know, that's, I think, something that everyone needs to realize is, you know, these emergency power acts,

they really need to be looked at and discussed. Judge Napolitano would talk about how the whole thing was unconstitutional, what was being done at the state level because the constitution guarantees a republican form of government to the states which means you have separation of powers which means you have a legislature and an executive what happened during covet was the executive became a legislator as well through executive orders. So they're just, you know, they're just throwing out these executive orders. In many cases, the legislature was not meeting, talking about those. It was just edicts coming down from literally little kings and petty tyrants around the country. So it really didn't make a big difference where you lived because so much of

it depended on whether your governor would act in those ways. But nevertheless, as free people, we shouldn't have to worry about that. No one should ever be able to have those powers. And, you know, I've brought this up numerous times. You know my position on the Constitution. I would prefer it if the politicians who promise they're going to operate that way, it's always over my left shoulder. I would prefer that the politicians who make their promises actually abide by it. And within it, the Constitution has the contract clause in there. So this model state health emergency legislation that was promulgated from Johns Hopkins in the mid after the 2001 anthrax scare and so on. And we saw this in New Hampshire when John Lynch was governor.

I was on the radio in Manchester trying to warn people about this completely, completely abrogates that portion. It's an utter usurpation of the contract clause, because if I have a contract with my employer or my employees or someone who's going to come do work on my house and all of a sudden somebody says, you got to stand six, six feet apart. You have to eat outside. Your employees have to wear a mask. Well, that's a breach of the contract we already have. And no state legislature, it's prohibited by the constitution.

No state legislature can stop the fulfillment of a privately agreed to contract. I didn't know. Also violation. Sorry, Garb. It's the business shutdowns were violation of the Fifth Amendment as well, because you were depriving people of their liberty and their

property without making restitution or fair market for that. So, you know, when you look at the Constitution, it does allow for things like intimate domain, but you have to compensate the taking and in this case it was just everybody's out of business your business is ruined oh well and then of course they did make the wonderful choice of printing trillions of dollars and the most expensive check that any of us got was the 1300 in the federal government but nevertheless um you know they they were depriving people of their liberty through our constitutional takings as well as those stay-at-home orders are shelter in place clear violation of the fourth amendment because

the police can't just stop you because you're driving on the road or because you're walking down the street they have to have probable cause yeah fact, you're supposed to get a warrant from a judge who determines that probable cause. Right. And in this case, that's what happened. That's where there's an implied right to travel freely in the fourth amendment. That's where we derived that from. And that was just stepped all over, you know, all of a sudden you, you had, you couldn't leave your home and i'm thinking wow america sure has changed so true so true and then then of course you've got the incentivization coming from the federal government handing out all the money which i think in in macrocosm and in macroscope of view uh really sheds light on the apparatus that has been constructed over decades of political machinations of the government promising governors or mayors money for your highways or this, if you conform to Title IX, if you conform to this, you'll get your Medicare money, you'll get your Medicaid money, you'll get your education money. at this very parasitic relationship between the central government, which of course is now

$35 trillion in debt and is accruing another trillion every hundred days, and the states, which themselves often can't balance their own budgets. And so they rely on those other people. And the whole time, not only is the value of the monetary system being depreciated with every dollar that they're spewing out there but the the actual memories of what the constitution says are being eroded by years and years of normalcy bias i think i i agree with you i was speaking with a united states congressman pretty good guy uh and uh he pointed out that constitution you know it it's a flawed document but it's the best thing that we have it's the best thing frankly it's ever been created but one of those flaws is that the federal government should never been allowed to dole

money out to the states yeah that's exactly what happens is they just bribe the states essentially with their citizens own money. And the future future progenies, new money and their earnings, their toil, you know, and, you know, Glenn, you and I often talk about economics. And, you know, this is one of the things I try to mention to people that when I go into class and I ask the students to look at the early, the fundamental machines, you know, the simple machines, the lever, the wheel, the inclined plane. And I say, you know, all those things, human beings, they didn't sit down at tables and say, I'm going to invent the inclined plane. You know, cavemen used an angle so that they wouldn't need two people to lift something. One guy could push something up a ramp. distance. You're decreasing the amount of effort per unit, but you're increasing the number of units. So it makes it easier. Now you freed one person, you become more efficient.

That's what we're all trying to do. But the whole time they're putting out this money, they're borrowing saying that it's helping us. It's actually destroying our inclined planes and they're making us work harder for the things that we want. It's absolutely, it's crazy. It's actually destroying our inclined planes, and they're making us work harder for the things that we want. It's absolutely crazy. It's really sad. You look at this Key Bridge situation. There's a very in-our-face example of a number of constitutional errors and economic errors and moral errors that these people are making. Yes, it might be important for the infrastructure.

Yes, it might be important for this or that. It's in Maryland. I don't live in Maryland. And they can try to make an argument for me to say, well, we're doing what's right for you because we've got to fix that so you can get sugar and your prices won't be so high. I'm sorry, but if you're going to open up that Pandora's box, then the government can do anything to facilitate ease for me to get anything. You can't do that morally and constitutionally. As I mentioned at the start of the show, they can only have control over three forms of land, military garrisons, Washington, D.C., and territories. I don't see interstate highways

as military garrisons. They're not supposed to exist, but they have been existing for decades. So I think there are a lot of lessons to be learned here. And especially from what you saw with Diverberg's personality, person to person, you saw the face of it and, you know, you weathered the storm, Glenn, and it's great to see that you're still down there doing what's right. It's very difficult, I'm sure, for you to have gone through all those things and seen the problems that some of the kids experienced because of this. But you stood tall and I appreciate that very much. Thank you, Gardner. I appreciate the kind words.

And I think my one message is that folks shouldn't forget about what happened during COVID. And it seems like we're all so desperate to move on that we are uh and the people that that cause these enormous problems in many cases killing folks uh not deliberately but through their policies uh you know and even realizing that the most logical explanation for how this thing this, came to be in the first place was gain-of-function experiments that the U.S. was helping to fund in another country. We should never forget those things. And the people that caused this need to be held accountable, because this is one of the worst political and economic disasters in American history.

Wow. Well said, Glenn. I'm delighted to have you as a friend, friend. It's great to have you here. And I know you got to go. You got to do business down there. I'll look for you on Twitter. How can people follow you on Twitter, Glenn? My Twitter handle or X, I guess now, but I still call it Twitter. It's at Glenn with two N's, Jacobs TN. So it's G-L-E-N-N-J-A-C-O-B-S-T-N. That's also same on Instagram. And then they can also follow me on two places on Facebook, either the Knox County Mayor Glenn Jacobs page or Jacobs for Mayor. The David Knight Show is a critical thinking super spreader.

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