The David Knight Show - INTERVIEW Golden Beans: China, a Nation of Bean-Counters
Episode Date: May 9, 2024Even though the Federal Reserve is keeping interest rates high, gold continues strong on retail demand and Central Bank demand, especially in China (a "torrent"). As the rush to "cashless" societies... and CBDC accelerates, what are our options in smaller quantity gold & silver useful as a medium of exchange? Tony Arterburn, DavidKnight.gold, joinsMoney is only what YOU hold: Go to DavidKnight.gold for great deals on physical gold/silverFind out more about the show and where you can watch it at TheDavidKnightShow.comIf you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-showOr you can send a donation throughMail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @DavidKnightShow@protonmail.comCash App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7For 10% off Gerald Celente's prescient Trends Journal, go to TrendsJournal.com and enter the code KNIGHTBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.
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Good to see you again.
Good to see you, David.
Thanks for having me back.
You know, we were talking in the break about these gold beans in China.
You've heard about that as well.
And it's become, you know part of that
is the retail trade that they're talking about but they've actually created a little instrument
there uh and uh you know people are getting i think a 13th of an ounce in the form of a gold
bean very popular well it's popular it's convenient it's affordable and uh the people of china they're
crazy about gold there's 60 000,000 gold mines in China.
China is breaking all kinds of records,
importing gold, manufacturing.
And that's been the trend since the beginning of this century.
China's been buying.
And it's interesting.
China's been buying gold off the books,
which is an open question.
Why?
Why are they buying gold off it?
Wouldn't they want the world to know what their gold reserves are and uh kitco's talked about this before uh there's some journalism and
some studies into the to china's gold reserves and no one really knows how much they have it's
it's an open question and they could actually have more gold other than the united states who hasn't
been a buyer since the 1950s we supposedly have something around eight thousand and a half tons or so it's
estimated that China may the the government may have somewhere around
16,000 we don't know this is again it's speculation why why they would be buying
off the books at the beginning of the century but you go back to the people
and using the small fractional gold,
that's the only way you can use gold almost anymore.
If you're a regular person, at close to $2,400 an ounce, David,
it makes sense to have fractionalized tradable pieces that you can use.
We do that with Wolfpack.
I buy the large sheets of 100- gram bars and we break them apart.
Do you have a gram bar of gold?
That's an easy, easily wayable, tradable, uh, fractionalized piece of gold.
But, um, I think you're going to see more and more of this.
And you even do that with a silver.
I've gotten some of the silver breakable, um, you know, things that you can break them
down into smaller quantities as well.
Absolutely.
And then we also have the gold backs and things like that.
It's important because one of the things about these little gold beans that they wrote the article about,
it's about a 13th of an ounce, so right now it's about 80 bucks that these people are doing.
So it's small incremental things.
And sometimes you need to go even smaller than that. That's why you got the kind of little chiclet break off things that are doing. So it's small incremental things. And sometimes you need to go even smaller than that.
That's why you got the kind of little chiclet
break off things that are there.
And it's one of the reasons why you would have silver.
Because one of the key things that we're looking at
is the fact that we want to be able to survive
when they crash this financial system.
You know, that's what the local Tennessee legislators
like Frank Nicely are looking at when they say,
well, you know, if they really screw this thing up, if they have an accident and
they blow the system up or if they do it deliberately, uh, we need to have some
way that we can continue the business of the state, you know, well, we need to
have that at an individual level as well.
We need to be able to, to continue.
We have to have some medium of exchange.
We have to have, uh, some wealth that has been retained and some liquidity.
And so that's what all this stuff is about.
So I think we're going to see more and more of these small things showing up, I think.
Well, I think the key is being able to have the actual physical gold in your hand when the system resets.
Because that's what they're doing.
It's a great reset. They because that's what they're doing. That's a great reset.
They're telling you what they're doing.
And countries around the world, the trend right now, it's absolutely amazing.
If you look at the charts going back to 2009, David, there was almost no central bank buying,
almost zero central bank buying of gold.
Now it's off the charts.
The IMF is warning that countries are getting off of the dollar for national security reasons.
This is the IMF, the International Monetary Fund, is talking about countries abandoning the dollar system for national security reasons.
Saudi Arabia has put out a probe trying to figure out how they're going to decouple themselves from their Western holdings because of security reasons.
They just recently joined BRICS, by the way.
They're the extra S in BRICS bricks this is not good for our system i think people have normalcy bias they're
they're very myopic they're looking at the old systems and wall street and the way that it worked
it doesn't it's not going to work that way in the future especially when all of the all the
de-dollarization around the world is happening david and that's why i mean 10 years ago uh five years ago the chinese people
weren't buying massive amounts of fractionalized gold and trading in it uh the you know india
always has been a gold buyer but not like it is now it's it's really a phenomenon it's accelerating
it's in i think what's happening is gold is retaining its natural place supplanting the dollar
as the world's reserve currency.
And I think countries are figuring out how to do cross-border payments, and that's part of the new BRICS system.
Zimbabwe is doing that.
It's using a digitized, fractionalized gold system.
They've also gone on the record.
Now, this is government saying this.
I don't believe them, but they're saying they're not going to create more digitized units than they have reserves in gold because it was always the
joke you know they have the trillion dollar notes but i think the lesson learned since 1971 nixon
took us off the gold standard all these you know most all other countries followed suit and went
to a fiat currency the last holdout was switzerland in 2002 had a
silver back currency and then after that it's a free fall they we've had 50 time 52 times more
currency printed since 1980 that exists today 52 times more currency on earth since 1980 so you
have this this fiat debt bomb that's going off,
and there's going to be a revaluation of everything,
especially since the dollar is losing so much ground.
It's kind of interesting to hear that from Zimbabwe.
Yeah, we're not going to print more of these things
when we've got gold back.
That was the lie from Bretton Woods 1, wasn't it?
They're recycling that thing.
And then everybody realizes they're bluffing.
They do have gold in Fort Knox. We don't even know if there's any gold in fort knox
anymore certainly don't know how much that is there just like you were talking about china you
know nobody knows these these countries keep everything secret you know that's their their
secret hand in this game of poker how much gold do they really have we're not allowed to see the
chips that they got on the table because they're not on the table they're under the table somewhere you know it's a and then you we've talked about
this before the the secrecy of where their gold is held and they don't make a big deal about it
and of course governments you know we always have these uh national ad campaigns the government
never tells you like make sure you have a little bit of gold and silver on hand in case inflation
really kicks in what do they tell you they tell you to feed the pig they have feed the pig.org they tell you to feed your piggy bank
with fiat currency they don't tell you to go get get gold and of course the the federal reserve
and the central bank here we don't buy gold uh we don't do that here in the united states because
again if uh gold demand drives the price of gold up the dollar is at war with gold it's its natural enemy
since becoming a fiat currency and i think that's what's happening around the world david the
countries are moving away from the dollar uh they're getting into gold reserves they're
looking at cross-border payment systems backed by something else so the dollar's in real trouble
we're watching this in in real time. And it's truly amazing.
Yeah, you know, this article
where they're talking about the little golden beans that are
there, it's actually from the New York Times.
That's how mainstream this has all become.
And we're not even talking about, this is not
a buy gold publication
type of thing. This is not even a financial publication.
This is the New York Times talking about this.
And one of the things that they said was, they said
you know, in the New York Times, they said there's been a 50% increase in the global price of gold since late 2022.
And they said gold prices went even higher last month because people were concerned about what the Fed was doing.
But they said now what's driving it is what's happening in China, what is happening with the central bank in China, and what is happening with the people who are out there buying the gold beans or whatever.
They said the flow of gold into China has gone from solid to an absolute torrent.
And that was the whole point of this article, to talk about that.
And then to talk about, well, this is this person, this is what they do for a living.
You know, they've got a kind of a middle-class job or whatever, and they're going down and
have been accumulating these little gold beans and all this kind of stuff.
I guess, you know, we're laughing about this during the break.
I said, yeah, kind of their bean counters.
Now they've got their own personal accounting system.
They're counting the little gold beans that they've been saving, saving up, but it's literally bean counters that they've got.
Now everything comes back around. Doesn't it?
It truly does.
And if you, if you watch the headlines, it's funny.
We used to watch the federal reserve.
You look at the central bank, United States, look to see what
they're doing with interest rates.
What's going to happen to the market.
Are they going to lower?
Are they going to stay this?
Are they hawkish?
Are they going to raise interest rates?
And then you look at the bank of England and the bank of England, england the bank of europe central banks they they've kept rates the same
so is the united states but gold moves on isn't that interesting they've kept rates the same
and it it doesn't follow what they do anymore uh like it did i mean that was the big that was the
big push to see what was going to happen with metals and, David, because of central bank gold demand.
And I think maybe finally the mainstream networks are catching on to this.
There's something happening outside of our own markets.
And it's macro.
It's huge.
The macro consequences.
And you mentioned, why did they all start buying gold at the end of 2022?
Well, it's because of the invasion of Ukraine by Russia and then the massive sanctions by the United States and the SWIFT system and all the punitive measures taken by our government and the West in general.
And I think a lot of these countries took notice.
They started abandoning the dollar.
They wanted to get off. They saw the vulnerability that they have notice. They started abandoning the dollar. They wanted to get off.
They saw the vulnerability that they have if they have to deal with the dollar.
And so you see the amount of crude oil that Russia is just going direct to China, going direct to India, moving around the sanctions.
This is massive shifts geopolitically, David.
And I think we're only going to see more and more of it as the dollar declines.
I agree.
Yeah, this New York Times article, they mentioned both those things.
They say, well, you know, the thing that really kind of kicked this off was when the United States had these sanctions.
They don't say Biden.
They're partisan, so they're not going to name him just like the conservatives won't name Trump with any of this stuff.
But, you know, they won't name Biden about that.
But they say, yeah, that was kind of changed everybody's mind
and started kicking this off.
And then another place will say, and since 2022,
it's gone up by 50% the price of gold.
You know, you get right to the point.
He said that's because those two things are related.
They don't make that kind of connection there.
But then elsewhere in the article,
they talk about the fact that China is divesting itself of American dollars.
They said what they're using, what they're doing now, they are buying their gold with American dollars to get out of it gradually.
And the fact that China has reduced its treasury holdings for more than a decade, they said as of March,
China had about $775 billion worth of us debt down from 1.1 trillion
in 2021.
So in three years, they've dropped it 30%.
So they're gradually, they can't sell everything off all at once because
they'll crash their own investment in it, but they're getting rid of it
at a pace about 10% a year.
You know, that's what they're trying to mark it down with.
Yeah.
At one time, the Chinese held about three trillion in treasuries and now they hold about 700 billion and are declining so
if if nobody's taking part in this it's like tinkerbell right if you don't clap she dies
this is the dollar if you don't use it if there's not money velocity it dies it goes away and that
that's and i think that's what people don't understand here in this country is there's a reason why you haven't had hyper hyperinflation, even with all the stupidity and on purpose controlled demolition in Washington, D.C.
It still survives. It still continues because people around the world still have a demand for it, even though it's fake.
It's psychological. They use it. It's in circulation. It's something called money velocity.
I don't understand it completely i don't pretend to i just know that history teaches me that all paper
currencies backed by nothing go to zero without an exception so if i know this going into what
everything else is window dressing it's just like you know speculative what's going to happen in the
interim but we know that fiat currencies go to zero and especially since the dollar has been so abused we probably could have lasted a lot longer
given the strength of our economy and our position in the world but we just on purpose tanked
everything you know geopolitically economically internally uh the corruption levels off the charts
and even biden's own economic advisors david one of them
who wrote an article for the new york times said that we should lose the world's reserve currency
status it'd be better off for our economy who are these people how would you get away with that how
would you have a lot loss a massive loss of purchasing power and retain a strong economy
it's impossible so i i don't i don't know uh how this ends especially for you know our
country but i do know that uh people that are reliant on the system and saving fiat currency
i think it's michael saylor recently the bitcoin advocate he said uh what do you call people who
save fiat currency we call them poor yeah that's right that's right yeah when you look at the the statement it just had
there from the guy in the bite administration it'd be better if we don't have the world's
reserve currency status it's like how in the world could they even say that because that's
really their superpower right that's the way they control everything even internally domestically
just print some more money and we'll give it to you if you do what we say we'll take it away from
you if you don't do what we say but that has been their superpower to do whatever they wish as a government.
So you have to look at this and say, are they really that stupid or are they really that suicidal?
And both of those things are really frightening.
And it is something that is not limited just to the Biden administration.
He made it a lot worse.
And, of course, all the stuff about the sanctions that it kicked off on Russia,
that's 100% on him.
But the foundation of this, whether we're talking about the commercial real estate stuff
or whether we're talking about bank collapses and stuff,
and, of course, the bank collapses are happening now
because of the Federal Reserve rapidly raising the interest rate,
never seen it go that fast, that high, that fast in history.
And so these banks could not respond to it.
So now we're looking at a lot of banks that are perhaps going to be failing very soon.
I got a management consulting firm warning that a half dozen banks would fail in just
a few weeks.
And he said that back on April the 30th.
So we'll see if that happens but he's got a proprietary way of looking at a lot of different metrics and balance sheets of these banks and
that's really what they do and he made that statement at the bank holding company association
spring seminar uh so we're in a really shaky position and the question is is it because
they're so stupid or because they are really
trying to execute their great reset on us and they don't care if it hurts their power as long
as they can destroy the american middle class and america as a financial and a military stronghold
i think that's the proper question because the people that run this country hate this country.
I think that's pretty apparent or that we'd be a lot better off.
What was it?
Strobe Talbot back in the 90s, secretary of state for Bill Clinton, said the nation state was irrelevant.
Now, this is the secretary of state.
The nation state is becoming irrelevant.
They're one world government devotees for Davos.
These are people that that are working
for the world economic forum that's this is the elite uh you know and of course they all run in
the same circles and go or it all said it's not a conspiracy if they all think alike but it certainly
is a conspiracy you go that the commercial that the world economic forum had in in 2016 is like
what was the what was the first opening phrase of that commercial?
Imagine a world where the United States isn't the lone superpower anymore.
They had this planned and the calls are coming from inside the house.
It's not that hard to figure out.
When you have, so you can't be that monumental of an idiot and rise to that high of like
advising the president on economics and thinking that you can take away trillions in circulation and usability of a currency and dump it back into the United States, devalue it, and still have a strong economy.
I think they've already built their lifeboats.
They have their golden parachutes.
They know exactly where they're going.
This is to take out and neutralize what was left of the strength, the heart and soul of the United States of America.
And it started with deindustrializing the heartland, making it the Rust Belt, taking away our pride and making the ability to have living wage jobs and have families and all these things and stability, being able to be self-sufficient.
It started with that. And again, you look at the last year we ran a trade
surplus was 1973. It was the year that they created the Trilateral Commission. We've not
run a trade surplus since. And of course, that was on the heels of not only taking us off the
gold standard in 71, but the birth of the World Economic Forum, opening China. These things all
go together. And by you fast forward to 2001 david at the uh 90 days
after 9-11 on the anniversary of the day that hitler declared war on the united states george
w bush gave china most favored trading status of any nation yeah uh you know for the wto declaring
war on the united states declaring war right that was 60 years to the day that hitler that was
december 11th i don't know that's my where my mind goes i always yeah i'm a key in on dates and things i i know they
traffic in that i kind of follow the elites that's well i think there's a lot to that you know you go
back and look at the first bilderberg meeting it was 10 years to the day uh of the last victory
of the nazis at the place where they had their last victory right there you know the bilderberg
hotel was right there where that bridge too far was and and it was um you know uh headed by uh a by the prince and and also by
Lord Carrington who had been instrumental in causing that defeat of allied forces in that
victory for the Nazis yeah just all a coincidence I'm sure they've spent decades since the end of world war one with the
council on foreign relations and uh you know the cecil roads roundtable intervention into our system
they've slowly just whittled away at the power structures united states which was supposed to
be free markets sound money economic nationalism nationalism in general borders things like that
and look at what we've become
which is this flailing Empire that's schizophrenic you know we want to support and prop up Taiwan
after we've given we cut diplomatic relations with Taiwan in 1979 it doesn't even make any
sense we don't have a border but we're going to guard the borders in Ukraine this is all just to
confuse us because it looks like you know it just doesn't
make any sense anywhere on paper it does though if you're trying to bring us down from the inside
and i think this the lifeblood of our country unfortunately is fiat currency and it is our
dollar and a lot of people are going to get hurt when i think they're just going to pull the rug
out from i think that's right it may be david i don't want to be an alarmist, but it may be what we're watching might be a gradually than suddenly.
It might just be that fast.
I don't know.
I'm hoping that I'm hoping we just kind of get some more time and people can get acclimated.
Because I think more people are starting to understand what fake money is because of inflation.
They're just starting to ask questions they never asked before because it went to they went too fast you know people would gradually go well i remember when
you could do such and such for five dollars and you can't do that wasn't it isn't it like a five
dollar sub at subway is like 13 dollars or something crazy oh yeah yeah you had uh as a
matter of fact there's a viral um uh clip somebody reacting to Jamie Demon of J.P. Morgan saying, oh, yeah, middle class is fine.
They're still flush with all that COVID cash.
Really?
$1,200.
Still living off that $1,200 check.
One's enough, I think.
We don't want to spoil them, you know, something like that.
But I think last week when you were doing the show last Friday, and thank you for doing that.
Thank you for giving me some time off.
But I heard you say, you quoted somebody i think uh if this was uh stupid if
it was a mistake eventually they'd make a mistake in our favor but they never do and i think that's
real that was the the first secretary of defense who was pushed out of a window at bethesda naval
hospital he told that to joe mccarthy by the way and then i think it was picked up later by gary
allen who wrote none dare call it a conspiracy. Yeah. Yeah.
So that's, I think that's a good metric.
I think that's a good description of both the Trump and the Biden administration.
I think it's a good description of Congress under both Pelosi and Johnson.
I think, you know, if, Hey, if this was not a plot against us, eventually they would do
something in our favor just by accident, but they never do.
They just never do.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Statistically, it would happen that, Oh, well, we, we actually, that we really lucked out something in our favor just by accident but they never just never do yeah yeah statistically it
would happen that oh well we we actually that we really lucked out on that one we you know high
five and each other like now now we're doing much better that never happens it's just this gradual
you know decline watching the you know the the Republic pass away all that you know more freedoms
the freedom of speech the Bill of Rights and then of course our economic power. I was talking to Travis. I can't even follow politics anymore.
I only know what, what are they doing?
Is it just the trial of Trump and then Biden is incontinent?
Yeah. I had a, yeah.
The big news this week that everybody's focused on is a stormy Daniels
describing their encounter.
But I was talking about that eventually to do something in your favor.
You're talking about, you know,
eventually flip heads or something like that and uh travis was laughing he said yeah the
the play rosencrantz and guildenstern the guy's flipping a coin it just keeps coming up was a
heads or something you know over oh heads again heads again i guess that's rosencrantz and
guildenstern are dead and so is the united states government because they just keep flipping this coin. It keeps coming up.
So, yeah, they've suspended reality, but we should believe it
because it's the way it actually is, right?
Oh, man.
Absolutely.
It's the way it actually is, and I think the more that you can internalize that
and come to peace with it and then start figuring out what do you do next.
I mean, we're at
the next level very soon and the world is changing rapidly i don't think uh you're definitely not
going to hear this kind of discussion on on msnbc or fox or any kind of they're just going to they're
going to run that play all the way to the end and it's going to be about the election i don't even
know what the election's about anymore uh well we haven't had the debates i mean yeah the issues don't matter because we don't have any debates so if you if the issues don't matter you don't even know what the election's about anymore. Well, we haven't had any debates.
I mean, yeah, the issues don't matter because we don't have any debates.
So if the issues don't matter, you don't need to have debates.
But, you know, when we look at this, yeah, we've seen this kind of inflation before.
We've seen the inflation kicked off by attacking our energy supply and things like that.
And we know that results in kind of a stagflation or maybe this time, as Salenti has said, a dragflation.
But, you know, so we've seen that type of stuff before.
We've seen our government destroy the currency. What we haven't seen before is them destroying the reserve currency status of the dollar.
We've had that through the lifetime of pretty much everybody, even before the end of world war ii
the united states was still kind of a de facto standard because its economy was so strong
uh compared to everybody else even during the depression but then there's another factor that
we haven't seen before and that's the move to the digital cashless society And one of the biggest banks in Australia is going to go 100% cashless this month.
And the country of Australia is set to be functionally cashless by next year,
which is just a few months away. And what I thought was interesting about this,
Tony, was the fact that in this article, they had a reprint of the different stages because the bank was going to do it gradually.
And so they said, well, here's what's going to happen.
You know, beginning at the end of May, May 20th, this month, you won't be able to access over-the-counter services at the banks.
You won't be able to deposit.
This is one bank.
It's called Macri, if I'm pronouncing that correctly.
You won't be able to deposit or collect checks.
You can't order new checkbooks.
And then by November the 1st, you won't be able to write or deposit any personal checks,
deposit or request bank checks.
You won't be able to deposit cash or checks over the counter.
And you won't be able to make a contribution or payment via check.
And so gradually, they're going to pull this out.
Now, they left one little caveat there to say, but we'll still let you get cash at the ATMs.
We're going to stop all these services.
We want cash checks.
We want accept checks.
We want deposit checks.
But we'll still let you take out cash.
But then what is happening is throughout the country, you have all these retailers saying we're not going to take cash anymore and so this is the kind of gradual progressive iterative process that i think we're
going to see uh in every country but uh running out in australia they're a little bit ahead of
this just like candidates taking the lead on shutting down all free speech australia seems
to be taking the lead on this cashless society aspect. Well, it's interesting, David.
I bought the other day some collections in a state sale.
This is a $1 note from 1917.
They're a lot larger than the modern-day bills.
And I think this would, I mean, the purchasing power of this
to be about $200 today at least,
given our gold price and what gold was in 1917 which is kind of
interesting the evolution of cash you know first you get uh these are notes that are backed by gold
you can turn them in at the gold window and then it becomes a federal reserve note right and all
that language goes away i had a 20 bill in here recently that would said this is redeemable in
lawful money not that the note itself was lawful money but you can redeemable in lawful money. Not that the note itself was lawful money, but you can redeem it in lawful money with 1950.
I think all that language goes away.
So it's gradually, it's like a magic trick.
They just start slowly taking away the props and slowly taking away everything until you're left holding nothing.
And that's what the central bank digital currency is all about.
You'll own nothing and you'll be happy, right?
You'll be happy with our control and you'll be happy right you'll be happy with our
control and we'll monitor everything that you do and we'll be able to contract and uh expand the
money supply in real time um but let's go you talked about the bank failures and and what that
stems from and of course they're predicting that and uh we talk about how these economic advisors
how could they even you know how could they even think about us losing the world's reserve currency status?
Well, let's think about what the end game here is.
I mean, other than we're going to, I think they want to neutralize the United States.
They want to put it into a second rate, third rate power.
So it gets it off the world stage the way that we've been, at least in the last hundred years.
But the other aspect of that, in my opinion,
is the ushering in of the central bank digital currency.
So the crisis precipitates and brings in the,
you have to ask for it.
You have to let the vampire into the house.
You have to let evil in.
And that's, it's some kind of karmic rule.
And so we have to let evil in.
And so we're going to ask for the central bank digital currency.
And it's going to save us, David.
That's what it's going to save us all.
And we just have to download this wallet.
But that is the trend.
You know, the World Economic Forum put out a headline about a week ago saying they were celebrating and clapping for 98% of countries around the world adopting a central bank digital currency blueprint
and having a plan in place.
That's what Davos celebrates.
That's their end game is to control everything you do through the money supply.
And fortunately for us and what I'm watching and I think you're watching too
is that this isn't the same country and this isn't the same world that it was 10 years ago i think
there's so many more people conscious of what this is what this plan is and maybe they don't have all
the information all the pieces and they're they're not you know they're not uh tuned into the david
night show but there's people that are absolutely aware that their money's fake and they're getting
outside of the system and i think that's why crypto is popular, decentralized crypto, not Fed coin, not Fed now, but the real free market stuff.
And of course, gold and silver, precious metals, the demand around the world is up. So they've got,
I don't think it's going to be an easy transition for them and they just may implement it and it
might not be as effective as they thought it was going to be. It's coming all all these countries are going to implement the central bank digital currency it's just what they
do i mean this is what the bankster class does so we're going to have to put up with this and we're
going to fight it uh the battles far from over even if it's implemented it's far from over
because we're building a different system we're building a parallel system and we're outside of
it so i i think um regardless of these kind headlines, and I know it's depressing, here's another headline for you.
The debt of the United States.
We pay $1 million or $2 million a minute.
$2 million a minute on the debt.
$2 million a minute.
So that's the kind of headlines you see before they say, well, folks, we had a really good run. It's time for you to download and get your biometrics into the Fed coin and, uh, you know, send your regards to
Janet Yellen and, uh, you know, and, and Jerome Powell, cause they're going to control everything
you do with your money at that point. And so I think people, I think people though are starting
to understand that. And that's the key thing. And that's why they're so focused on speech
because they don't want people to be aware. you point out a lot of people are becoming aware
of it i began the program yesterday talking about a lot of these grandiose plans like the saudi
prince's uh you know 105 mile long city in the desert you know that kind of stuff but you know
they've got these grandiose plans everybody's got a plan as they all say until you get punched in
the face and sometimes we don't even until you get punched in the face.
And sometimes we don't even have to punch them in the face.
Sometimes their own plans punch them in the face.
And so, you know, they're not the wisest people.
They're not all powerful.
God has a say for sure in all of this stuff.
But I think it's one of the things that's so key for them is that they can keep people in the dark.
And so if we can keep free speech alive, if we can get the messages out and get people to understand what their plans are, we have a very good chance of defeating them.
I think we can even defeat them if people are slow to wake up to what their plan is and start to do something on our own,
then the tougher it gets for us.
But I'm optimistic because I'm a Christian
and I know that God is in control with all this stuff.
But I think it's very important.
I really do appreciate what you do.
You got a show that comes on,
follows this show immediately, right, today?
Yes, sir.
Just right after your show
on rockfin and freeworld.fm i have the art of burn radio transmission which is once a week i still go
out on some radio stations uh once a week and it's uh it's a hodgepodge precious metals prepping all
that good stuff parapolitics good uh it's just uh stream of conscious and we'll see what i'm
going to talk i don't usually know until about five minutes prior and we'll just go through some headlines, but it's a lot of fun. That's great.
I've got a comment here for you as well. This is on Rock Van from Michelle Obama
and thank you for the tip. It says, I love the silver coins
you send me, Tony. They make me feel like a dwarf king lording over his
treasure and Lord of the Rings. I love it. Yeah, because you get more
silver coins. That's the funny thing. that's what we used to do with the with the kids when they were little you
know it's like well would you rather have one of these five dollar bills or would you were
would you rather have four of these ones you know uh so that's the kind of thing or five pretty
meticulous on the uh on the invoices and i i should probably publish it sometime. I work with, with Yeka. Yeka helps me and she's got her own show and she does shows on carnivore diet and
other things, but she works for Wise Wolf and helps me put the invoices together.
And we were just really meticulous. Like, what do we have? And what would look, you know,
what would, what would I want? And, and in that particular tier package, and we always do
comparisons. We go to the other, like the big websites and we check out their prices and I'm like my goal is always to beat them so if you're
part of wolfpack it it's a it takes about an hour or so maybe a little bit longer to go through all
the invoices to see every tier for every week so it's uh we pay attention to it and when you're
getting those coins like I thought about what coin you're going to get I thought about how many
goldbacks to put in I thought about that I thought about what coin you're going to get. I thought about how many goldbacks to put in.
I thought about that.
I thought about what products.
And of course, a lot of products come through.
Like yesterday, I bought another close to 500 ounces of silver at the shop in Branson that immediately goes into Wolfpack.
And like it was some really nice one ounce silver rounds from a private mint.
And they are replicas of what a mercury dime would
look like if it was that big so like it took the mercury dime lady and lady liberty or the goddess
mercury and they put it on a silver round and that's just that's just some of the neat stuff
that comes out of war yeah yeah so you i mean that's a mind-boggling amount of work to have
to decide on how many different tiers have you got with wolf pack that's a great question i i
i'd have to like name them because them because it starts out with the kids,
the Wolf Cub at 35, Lone Wolf, Warrior Wolf, Alpha, Wise Wolf,
and then the Sage at 1,000, and then we have different tiers of Zen.
I'm not doing any more.
The next thing that we're going to do, we're going to do an ACH
where you can put in an electronic check to save on fees, and we're also going to accept Bitcoin. I'm working on that. I
should have that done hopefully by next week. And I'll announce that maybe next week when I come on,
we'll talk about that. But we're also going to add a few key things and I don't want to spoil it,
but we're going to add some things where you can just buy direct at a certain type of product.
And I'll try to do the lowest price that I can.
So like,
we just,
we're going to change the price daily,
like go in in the morning,
look at how the trades are going.
If you want to get,
you know,
and you talked to,
we talked about the beans this morning.
We're going to do something very similar to that with,
with gram bars.
So like you can buy them one at a time and instead of having to get,
you know,
a whole wolf pack or something,
but I'm worried,
I'm trying to make it more and more convenient,
and I'm learning as I go.
That's good.
That's good.
Well, yeah, and we're going to need something like that
if we're going to be able to use the gold and the silver for,
as Catherine Austin Fitz says, financial transaction privacy,
to be able to do that private.
And that is a key thing about gold and silver as well,
as the fact that it's been around there as a store of value you know it was interesting that the back and forth of the
debate that was set up on on zero hedge between uh peter schiff and and rubini on the one side
for gold and then on the other side you had uh scaramucci and uh somebody else and so they're
talking about you know the debating gold versus Bitcoin. I think it's
great that we've got multiple things that are out there. And, you know, the more things we've got
that go against the fiat currencies and central banks, I think the better, quite frankly, because
there's more targets for them to go after. There's only one thing. It's pretty easy for them to try
to shoot that thing down. But the more things that there are out there, then the better for
us to counteract them. So it's an interesting back and forth with that but
anything else you want to tell us about what's going on at wise wolf this week well it's just
a busy time and uh you know we're we crossed over i think we have a close to 1100 members of wolf
pack and we're just thankful for that. I'm looking to
To put different types of products in so it's always staying on top of the invoices
It's it gets it gets harder the more people that join after I'm have to move faster on stuff
And I'm really watching the the supply chain. I do think that it's weak
I do think that it could crack at any time and i i watch how overloaded the exchanges are this
is just some inside information if you watch the exchanges how the lag time and them paying me for
products or them processing products um it it's astounding as a lot of people and i think a lot
of that gold's flowing out like we're you know some of the people are cashing in because of
record prices of gold and that but the demand is still up.
The demand is coming from somewhere.
It's coming from internationally.
It's coming from central banks.
So we're really watching everything close, David.
But, yeah, you can go to DavidKnight.gold.
You can look at Wolfpack, any transaction, no matter how big or how small.
And remember, the IRAs, 401Ks, all that,
we can roll that over into physical precious metals.
So go to davidknight.gold
and if you want to call and talk to me,
you absolutely can.
I answer the phone all the time.
People are surprised I answer my phone.
I'm like, well, why wouldn't I?
That's my business.
That's great.
I know you're really busy
and I know it's going to be more and more challenging
as our financial system gets more
and more challenging. It's always great to talk to you, Tony. Thank you so much. Thank you for
doing the show last week. Always interesting when you do the show, I think. And again, his show is
going to be immediately following this one today, his weekly radio show. And you have a regular
Ardburn transmission that you do on a daily basis as well, but there's one that's going to follow
this show immediately afterwards.
Thank you so much for joining us,
Tony.
Thank you,
David.
Thank you.
Appreciate it.
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