The David Knight Show - INTERVIEW Govt Contracts for New Surveillance of Christians, Conservatives & GOP

Episode Date: May 25, 2023

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And of course, he also works for MRCTV. He contacted me a couple of days ago and said, hey, there may be some big stuff breaking about government surveillance and looking at the free speech issue. And I didn't have time during the break to find out. But Garth, what is the status of that? Has that news broken yet or not? David, thanks for having me on. It's great to come in after the inestimably awesome Tony Arterburn. And yeah, there is some new information about what's been going on.

And the Media Research Center just released a press release, and there's going to be more next week, where people who might be followers of MRCTV might be familiar with the fact that recently I tied together the Portman Murphy Countering Foreign Propaganda Act that was passed in late 2016 as part of the NDAA and shoveled out $150 million over two years to basically silence conservative speech and hand out money to old dinosaur news media uh that that money went over to places like uh the virality project which was tied to leftists through the uh twitter matt taibi uh reports and also news guard which is affiliated with um yeah with yeah yeah with microsoft news guard g-a-r-. That would be a great promo. I'll check with the MRC people. Just have my picture looking very mean, you know? You'd have to go like Dark Brandon.

You'd have to go Dark Guard. With a red background, you know? Yeah, of course. They put it in there as part of the NDAA because it's all about national security. And everything they do is about national security. This entire surveillance state, this police state, it's all national security. I know. Whatever would we do without them protecting us from our own speech? I'm reminded of that quote from Felix Dijinsky as they were creating the Cheka.

And he said, the fact that you are free is not your achievement, but rather a failure on our side. I never heard that before. That's brilliant. Yeah. Of course, Felix Dzerzhinsky, you know, he, he knew how to run an operation, didn't he? He was the guy who got the template for James Bond for Ian Fleming, Sigmund Reilly. The trust.

Yeah. The trust. Yeah. You know, that, that story as well. Yeah. He set up all of the opposition was all being run by him. I mean, amazing. Amazing.

Yeah, absolutely amazing. And in a way rhetorically, uh, the DHS now has been pulled into this. And, uh, so originally the news guard and a Virality Project and so on, those we exposed over the past few weeks, as well as Matt Taibbi, who did a lot of the work. But I've been writing about this since 2016, trying to tell people, you know, it's sort of like you feel like Cassandra in a way. Because you're saying, ah, we're reaching the end of that rail line in this really cool 1970s movie the cassandra crossing you know but um so the the uh dhs now is is has been implicated in this uh you know the great and wonderful alejandro mayorkas uh what's been going on is uh the latest uh revelation in addition to the news guard um virality uh project stuff that was being done through the DOD and the DOJ,

those have been exposed, but now there's a new facet of it. So we're talking about the targeting of Christians in the Republican Party. And I'll just read to you, literally, the press release came from the MRC about 9.15 this morning, and there's going to be another shooter drop. Now, MRC is not part of this, but it looks like all Is and then funding NewsGuard to come hassle me about my own articles. I mean, it's just unbelievable. It personalizes Orwell's Newspeak and Ministry of Truth. It brings it right to you. You are actually your own Ministry of Truth.

It's crazy. ministry of truth it brings it right to you you are actually your own ministry of truth it's it's crazy so what's happening right now is they've got this new thing that they've revealed called the targeted violence and terrorism prevention grant program now just a couple details on this because i know this is sort of first blush information um what they discovered is uh the media research center's free speech america has discovered that this was originally started by lovable, courageous Donald Trump. And originally it targeted the foreign terrorists out there. However, since Trump, the Biden administration has folded in the funding of this through the DHS to now target specific groups like the Heritage Foundation, Christian Broadcasting Network, Turning Point USA, PragerU, the National Rifle Association, for what they're still worth, which isn't much, Breitbart News, the American Conservative Union Foundation, and the National Republican Committee, as well as, let me see, Fox News. And so what they're looking at now is they are seeing how this money,

they're starting to investigate. And one of the first areas that they discovered through a FOIA investigation is that the University of Dayton was one of the big grantees. And there are some very, very sketchy looking people connected with this. And $40 million has been handed out to silence these organizations. And I would lay some pretty heavy bets that Fox News and CBN and others are going to start forming some sort of a lawsuit about this. Wow. Yeah. And we've seen this in the past.

You know, you go back to 2017, 2018, uh, when they, um, and it was, um, 2018, that was the midterm year. And it was August the 6th that they, they purchased when I was at Inf, they purged us off all the social media with just a couple of exceptions. And like, you know, Paul Joseph Watson didn't get purged off of YouTube or Twitter. I don't know about Facebook. I got purged off of everything except for Twitter. You know, most of the rest of the people got purged off of everything. And so we started looking at this and then they came after another 800 organizations. I know they went after a free speech,

a free thought project and things like that. And the people who are behind that at the time, it sounds very similar to this. Uh, it was being run out of, um, Indiana, the university of Indiana.

And it was, Oh, so me like, uh, social, like social media. And they were running this stuff. They had hired and given a grant to this university to go over people's social media stuff. But now this is targeting directly the media. Fox News, Breitbart, and then organizations like the RNCc as well is there

any detail about specifically what they're doing i mean are they just trying to investigate them and find things to get them purged off a social what is the objective of this yeah and i'm glad you asked that because at first blush you hear about this and it sounds so similar to other things as you hear and you say okay well i need to hear specifics because you know people could just rhetorically you could have alejandro mayorca speaking out about fox news or something like that and you know we've heard it all before but what specifically has been done and by the way i will mention to you that uh there might be some bleed over to the time when you were at info wars becausears because InfoWars was also targeted so you too might have been one of the targets and of course we've seen what's been done to try to silence you on so many areas

of social media yeah um so my my first plus response to this it looks like they've got this thing called Prevents Ohio and it's the from the University Dayton. And this is just one of these programs. They have multiple DHS grant recipients. There's a hyperlink here to this DHS grant recipient list. But one of the most high profile was this University of Dayton Prevents Ohio. And it's all capitals. There's another hyperlink I have to read from the University of Dayton.edu and their arts and science division on so-called extremism.

And they awarded the University of Dayton $352,109 to establish this program. And I'm quoting from the MRC press release here, which promised to, quote quote draw on the expertise of the university of dayton faculty to quote fight domestic violence extremism and hate movements and that's where this list of the heritage foundation fox news nra and breitbart and so on and so forth come forward. Now, they conducted seminars. And again, so what we're seeing from what I'm seeing is we're seeing the money being

used right now inside state universities. That's bad enough. I mean, the money being taken in the first place is bad enough. That's the moral breach right there. But the practical outcome does look like at least they've got this seminar. But what else is there? Let's see what else there is. The seminar also compared former President Donald Trump to Pol Pot.

Okay. And then they had multiple seminars, including one headlined by a DHS agent that featured lectures by University of Cincinnati research fellow Michael Lodenthal, a self-proclaimed member of Antifa, whose Twitter feed is rife with posts celebrating acts of left-wing violence. Or maybe he can get together with Sam Altman and start a Unicoin for Antifa. They can call it Anticoin. I'm Anticoin. Yes. We should register that as another Anticoin. Yes, absolutely.

So it says here, here is a little bit more. Going back in the history of this, they're talking about Lodenthal used Provence, Ohio to explain in detail how to create dummy accounts on free speech social media platforms like Telegram, Gab and Rumble in order to, quote, destabilize political movements. movements in other words commit fraud yeah a lot of things weren't we're doing are illegal he boasted in the lecture a lot of it involves breaking the law he continued well if he had just gotten the fbi to fund twitter he could have done it that no problem with three million bucks i mean come on oh yeah um the biden dhs is responsible for the new focus on the TVTP program. Now, that TVTP program was the one that was started by Trump. And let me just double check.

It's called Targeted Violence and Terrorism Prevention Grant Program. Started by Trump, of course, not constitutional. I don't see where they can come up with any of that nonsense. But then now used against Americans. Gee, what surprise sounds like feist to me yeah um uh so yeah it says here uh the biden dhs is responsible for the new focus of the tv tp program that seeks to silence conservatives and christians prior iterations of the TVTP programs under Presidents Obama and Trump focused on actual terrorism. Well, that's sketchy. I would disagree with them there because there's been no jurisprudence on that. The Grant Office was established under the Obama administration in 2011 with a 12-page

plan titled, quote, Empowering Local Partners to Prevent Violent Extremism in the United States. Unbelievable. Now it's just about the time that they started to push the, if you've got a Ron Paul bumper sticker or a Gaston flag on your bumper sticker, on your bumper, then you too could be a part of that wonderful group, have a cake in prison, right? Through the fusion centers, yeah. Yeah, yes, exactly, exactly, yeah.

And the final bit that I'll mention here, the program was revamped and centers yeah yeah yes exactly exactly yeah and the final bit that i'll mention here the program was revamped and renamed the office of targeted violence and terrorism prevention under the trump administration while on the campaign trail biden had actually pledged to disband it mayorkas and biden appeared to have hijacked it for their own political agenda awarding 80 grants to far-left projects for the purposes of establishing media literacy as they called it and online critical thinking initiatives the biden administration spent nearly 40 million tax dollars spread across these 80 grants to do this so-called media literacy uh including uh one is um an organization out out Boulder County must

be in Colorado and also at the University of Dayton so there you go and I guess Alejandro Mayorkas his fingers are deeply involved in this he called the program a priority of the highest importance well you know when they talk about critical thinking that's pretty when they talk about critical thinking uh that's pretty cynical they're critical of thinking uh just like when they talk about hate speech it's speech that they hate this is all when you talk about prevents ohio what we're talking about here is pre-crime yeah we want to stop this now before you do anything and i've been talking about how from the very beginning of, uh, you

know, the, when the internet became practical, when they were putting the competitors in place, had venture capital firms, including the CIA's own venture capital firm of In-Q-Tel, uh, they were picking the people who are going to be the players, people who would work with them and let them compete to see who the best one was going to be. They wanted it to work, but it was all going to work for them ultimately. The key thing at that point in time was to create geospatial intelligence, which was to monitor. They were upfront about it.

It was to monitor people's religious and political beliefs. It was presented to everybody at the time, oh, we've got these radical Muslims, and we've got to be concerned about their religion and their speech, and people bought that line, and now it's being used against people they call radical traditional catholics what an oxymoron that is uh you know you're not radical if you're traditional i mean you can't be both at the same time all i get to give is monty python and the holy hand grenade you know exactly yeah or the american carol that the the guys did you know, the Catholic terrorists who get on the bus and they've got like a holy hand grenade and they pull out the pin, which is a cross or something like that. But, you know, that's where these people are.

And it was Eisenhower, when we talked about the military-industrial complex, he talked about really the military-industrial-academic complex. And that's what they're using right now. They're using academia to push through this surveillance state that they have out there. It truly is amazing. Even with Trump, and I'm no supporter of Trump, but you look at this is the permanent bureaucracy. As you point out, these things, they just stay there from administration to administration. They may get kicked off by an Obama, but then it continues on through the Trump administration because he leaves these organizations there, they don't try to

reduce them in size or scope or funding or any of that kind of stuff. And so you have this constantly metastasizing cancer, whether the people are aware of it or not. I do fault Trump for things like the bump stocks. I certainly knew about that. He went with the pistol brace van. He knew about that, whether he knew about pistol brace ban. He knew about that. Whether he knew about this or not, I don't know, because this is being used against their own people.

But it is yet another example of whether he knew it or not, of this permanent bureaucracy that has really become the fourth branch of government, the most dangerous and uncontrolled branch of government. And that's how this thing is growing like this. Yeah. this thing is uh is growing like this yeah you know and and david um you mentioned the the fourth turning sequences here that ryan mcmacon um brought up and by the way i actually happen to have his book breaking away just sitting next to me over here that i picked up from the mises institute a while ago it's about it's about decentralization nullification and and uh and uh just you know secession uh overall secession movements in history but um excuse me it is interesting david because i think a lot of this comes from when you break

off when you decouple um politicians which is always the tendency you know we go back to alexander hamilton he was decoupling as he was writing some of the federalist papers he was lying through his teeth he was saying oh yeah there are going to be no assumed powers or anything like that he that's exactly what he wanted that's why he wanted the constitutional convention you know so all of his cronies could make a bunch of money off buying those war bonds they bought them for pennies at on the dollar from from poor farmers who had invested in the american revolution they knew if they got those things and then they got the taxing power, those guys would make a mint. They'd make 100% off of those things.

They bought it like 10%. And, you know, so it was massively corrupt. And that's another reason why they went after the whiskey, the whiskey makers in Western Pennsylvania, because they needed that money to pay off his friends. And then he got a friend of his. And by the way, I've mentioned this on my little show as well. You know, according to the way, I've mentioned this on my little show as well. You know, according to the Constitution, the state legislators or governor can call for help from the federal government.

If under the Constitution, they claim that they are going to lose their Republican form of government due to an insurgency or some extreme violence. But it has to come from the states. So if you look historically at things like the Whiskey Rebels and how things degenerated so quickly right after the constitution was was um was adopted uh by by these cronies like alexander hamilton going right through history all the way up to fdr that that whole strain of the anti-jeffersonians um what's fascinating is they never got called into pennsylvania for the whiskey the whiskey rebels who weren't paying their taxes they they used a friend of Hamilton's who was a judge to claim that they were in rebellion and so they just went to this friend of Hamilton's and he said oh yeah go ahead and go I mean it's just

the corruption it goes way back right but when you've got these figures who are so willing to decouple from those constitutional structures, the rules that they promise us by which they will abide, and you've got central banking, all bets are off because the money's going to go to the universities. It's going to go to this place in Dayton. It's going to go to, for example, University of Texas in Austin was involved with one of these so-called anti-propaganda groups, and they were connected with the Virality Project and NewsGuard and all these things. All of it over the past five to eight years has been funneled and funded thanks to the central banks, which is they bought

up so much of the debt, and it's coming to an end, as as you say you know and um the one thing that that i think is extremely important for us to keep in mind is you know if you look at the media research center um the mrc is reliant on donations from people right so as you as you know now if you're a large organization you're very high profile um so what happens if everything goes to cbdc yeah and you start to see figures like justin trudeau and his wef crony shutting down people's bank accounts stopping them from donating to just truckers right well how's the media research center going to fare then what's going to happen if we're targeted by the department of homeland security and then they've got cbdc yeah how are these larger profile how are we going to survive right oh absolutely so that we we know what's you know we know what's going on and we've seen it

rolling out uh you know first they use their corporate cronies i just like to use paypal you know paypal de-platform me five months after the show began, after they figured out I was doing it, you know, who I was, they de-platform me. And, um, you know, I, I talked to, uh, Matt Taibbi at the time, uh, he contacted me about that kind of financial blacklisting that was going on. And now you're, because he did the Twitter files, they pull him in and stick the IRS on him. And so the CBDC is going to be a combination of both of those things. And it's going to be more, you know, they're just going to make it more direct.

It's all the stuff that they're doing now. It's just going to be faster and more direct. That's really what they're trying. They're not trying. It'll be fed now in your face, you know, right now. Uh, we know what we're getting fed, too, and it's not good. I'd rather use that out in a field to fertilize the field. You don't need to feed me that.

And, you know, David, I was really happy that you brought up the point about the Florida CBDC statute and the conversation between Stossel and DeSantis, because the Florida CBD statute is different than some of the CBDC statutes. Some of the CBDC statutes don't, so at first blush, some of them look like they're banning central bank digital currency, but not all of them actually are they might be banning a federal reserve or international digital currency but they don't mention the u.s treasury and that's a big deal because if the u.s treasury wanted to they could themselves separate from the federal reserve and create their own cbdc which they have done in the past with money, as we know, and they would just inflate it as well.

So it would be the same sort of thing. But the Florida statute does mention the U.S. Treasury specifically in that list. I did a report on that Florida statute a little while ago. So that's one of the things. I wasn't aware of that, but you're always on top of everything. I love the depth of your reporting. Oh, thanks. Thanks so much.

I appreciate that. And I really, I got to say, I was so glad that you covered that information from Stossel and DeSantis, because all the rest of this is just fluff. You know, you got to get into the roots of these things. And what you discussed in particular, as you and I know, because we have some really interesting thoughts going, and we've never really been able to spend a lot of time talking about it, but the idea of asking for incorporation status and how that affects your ability to be able to be free to claim that your business is still private property or it can be regulated by the government.

There are so many facets to that that are very, very important for people to keep in mind. And a lot of them are addressable, I think, by the idea of making sure that people recognize that corporate status is an artificial government blessing onto people. And there's nothing in the Constitution that actually allows that. So there's a lot to discuss with that. And the problem that I see is that if people start to accept the idea that corporations, by asking for incorporation status, it opens the door to having the government. So, for example, let's look at it this way. If somebody says, you know, like Stossel, looks at it as, well, it's just a private business, which not quite right.

But if someone says, well, it's not just a private business, should this corporation then be able to force everybody to get jabbed? Right. Yeah. Well, you know, to me, that would be whether or not it's in the original contract um and the problem is you have to separate the corporate status from the from the contract status you know is there defraud is there breach of contract are you going against what the original contract was and that goes for anybody who's making an arrangement walking into a store so on, but not to get too in the weeds on this, but one of the things that I think is important is to say, look, by trying to answer the problem of a business, forcing the employee to do something that might run counter to what we would see as acceptable, say having to wear a mask or accept LGBTQ

stuff or whatever right we are actually answering the problem by perpetuating the problem which is that by saying well you are a corporation and you can't discriminate against X Y or Z person you're then saying well you are a corporation and you must answer to the government diktats. Yeah. So in a way, it actually does a backdoor opening to the government saying you must jab people. You must wear masks. There's no answer there. I think that's the key thing because people have looked at this and typically, like I say, you know, we have situations saying, well, you're not going to discriminate against somebody based on the color of their

skin. And so you're going to open up, you've got a public space here. You're going to serve everybody equally. And we understand that. And then you get into these fine issues like, you know, the, uh, the gay wedding cake or whatever, where they came in and he said, look, I'm a bakery. I, I sell stuff off the shelf to anybody. I don't ask anything, any questions about them. But if you want me to custom make something for you, because this is a domination thing, and you know that this is my religious beliefs and you're trying to rub my nose in the cake,

well, I'm not going to do that. And so, you know, there's these different nuances that are there, but I think most people are coming at this from the standpoint of, is this a private business that's going to, is doing this out of their own bigotry or hatred of a group or whatever? And that's people's mindset with it. When in reality, they're doing it on behalf of the state in many cases. Right. And that's the key thing. And you've got to cut through that BS and our background of all this saying, well, you know, they don't want to have black people at the counter. And so it's not about that.

It's about these people doing it on behalf of the state. And that's really why you had the cruise ships doing that, you know, in Florida and that type of thing. It wasn't that, you know, they have some hatred of people who aren't vaccinated or not wearing a mask. It's because they're agents of the state doing this and giving the state some kind of plausible deniability well we're not really doing it we're not really censoring your

speech it's the social media companies that are doing it no you're their agents that's exactly david yeah i think anybody who thinks that they can use the government to prevent the businesses from say establishing rules that they don't like has to admit that they they can use the government can then be used to establish rules that they don't like has to admit that they can use the government can then be used to establish rules that they don't like and this is this is the major problem that invasion of private property and it literally if you if you separate the corporate uh the request for corporate status from it and you and you look at just philosophically and historically the roots of the problem go all the way back to john lock uh and i would i would have my students up on the board and we would go through the second treatise of government and i

would i would ask them to point out areas where john lock was was offering double standards or he was illogically uh falling apart and there was one there are two areas where lock had it wrong uh very very wrong there are a number of areas where he had it wrong people often claim that john lock was a natural rights theorist he wasn't he was a social contract theorist he was claiming that everybody signed on to this magical social contract and that's you know again it runs parallel to this idea of do i have a private business or do i not now if so so what lock said was no man should be deprived of the fruits of his labor without his consent. And then literally in the very next sentence, John Locke says, and by his consent, I mean the consent of the majority.

So he negates his own argument. It's a QED, right? And then the other part of it is he said private property should essentially be sacrosanct. But by the same token, he also would say would say yeah but you can't waste your private property well who defines waste right if i if i allow a couple apples to fall on my apple field is that waste to you and then he says if you waste it then you have to give it up to somebody else it's like no no now you are establishing yourself as the arbiter of what is waste leave me alone leave me alone and Leave me alone.

And this is the problem. Now, when you open up that door, and this is where the DeSantis-Stossel conversation becomes so dynamic and so interesting and opens up such a great door to learning because, you know, Stossel's position, and you rightly say it, if Stossel had just opened up that extra dimension to say, ah, I know we're actually talking about people asking for incorporation status. Then you've got to say, when you're asking for incorporation status, are you then becoming an agent of the state?

And how far does that go? And then that draws in even more complex stuff, which is what are called unconstitutional conditions. And unconstitutional conditions have been ruled on over and over again in various ways. As you know, Hillsdale College, Grove City College, the federal government tried to force them to conform to Title IX if they took any students who got government grants. They said, we're private. We're private. And they said, no we're private we're private and they said no no if you're taking government money by the same token there was the cabrini green housing unit which by the way i i think uh tony might have mentioned this or maybe it was don jeffries

mentioned this um michelle obama was involved in the tearing down of the Cabrini-Green housing complex outside of Chicago. That was one of her big claims to fame. But Cabrini-Green was a Title VIII, Section VIII housing complex where they had a child who got killed out in the parking lot back in the early 80s, I think it was. It was a drug deal, and a little kid got hit and crossfire, lost his life. So they said, we are going to stipulate that if you're going to get this federal housing benefit, you must accept no-knock raids in your apartments for searches. Completely contrary to the Fourth Amendment. So in that case, the Supreme Court ruled, no, you can't do that. You can't stipulate that someone has to open up their doors to no-knock raids.

People still have their bill of rights protected rights but then you've got christian bake shops i want to ask for incorporation status so again similar to what those people with cabrini green were doing i'm asking for a government benefit give me this housing give me this corporate status right give me the legal protections against my own assets if I form a corporation so let's say you form a corporation an LLC or something like that does that then mean that the government can tell you to do all these things that run contrary to your your rights yeah and so the heart of the problem is the state it's always the state and and the the

the ability to incorporate uh should have nothing to do with the state and It's always the state. And the ability to incorporate should have nothing to do with the state. And that's the problem, because the minute you get the state involved, then all these questions arises, what can the state demand for your beneficence, for the beneficence of granting you this corporate status? And we see that problem in spades when it comes to private schools and school vouchers and all the rest of the stuff. You know, even in that discussion with John Stossel and they're talking about, well, you know, what about a private school? A private school can do whatever they want, but if the taxpayers are paying for it, we're going to tell them what to do. And of course, that is always going to be the

case. And so when you have so many Republicans out there saying, well, we've got to have vouchers and we've got to use them for private schools. And, uh, they've tried to draw homeschoolers in by saying, well, we got these great athletic programs that you can get involved in or banned or whatever, uh, but it's going to be a way that they claw their way in once you take. And, uh, that's, that's the thing that people have a real blind side about. I remember up until you had the Twitter files that released by, you know, Musk and Tybee and these other people were looking at it, uh, the tack that

was, had been taken for by reason magazine, by the Cato Institute, by the heritage foundation, all these other people were that, well, they're corporations. They can do whatever they want. I don't like what they're doing. As a matter of fact, John Stossel said to me times, I really hate the fact they're censoring me. He said, and I hate what they're doing, but they're entitled to do it because they're corporations.

And I kept saying at the time, no, they're working on behalf of the government and they would not acknowledge it until these Twitter files came out. And that was the best thing I think that came out of it was it kind of started to open their eyes. It was like, oh, there was a hidden hand behind all this stuff yes and you boy you were way ahead and i have to say david you know as as a person who i know you were a fan of british television and and so on and so forth the the anti-corporate left wing of the brits uh their population they were way ahead of me and uh you know i i often mention there's a band called killing joke uh and i met their their lead singer and so on and he's a symphonic composer

he's worked with sarah brightman and things like that he owns an island off the coast of new zealand now he's done very very well he was the prague philharmonic composer and so on um but you know he started basically squatting in a house as a teenager with other members of Killing Joke, along with The Clash and Motorhead in one building outside of London. And, you know, he's gone to this prominence. But he and I were having a conversation because in his songs, he will quote the Georgia Guidestones. He literally, I might have mentioned to you, he literally wrote a song years before the pandemic nonsense started called I Am the Virus, a dig on Bertrand Russell and H.G. Wells. He was talking about Codex Alimentarius from the EU

two and a half years before it was proposed. Like he knows, so he said to me, and I've mentioned this on my show as well, he's got a really deep voice. He said, you know, God, when I formed Killing Joke, a lot of this was very abstract. It was very, very, you know, I was just learning about the Illuminati and their influences through banking and corporations. these people my my drama repairs paintings for david rockefeller we're in their homes because they really want this stuff they want one more currency they want to reduce the population and he had always been railing against the corporate fascist stuff and you were right on it and that's where the reason people were off it a little bit by a couple years at least and maybe they'll be able to maintain it maybe nick gillespie has learned a little bit and some of the other guys there. I think they were always aware of it, but they

just never really got around to really digging into it. But you dug into it beautifully. And this is one of the major problems. When you've got a central banking system, what they're trying to do is forget the customers. Customers don't need to be pleased. Competition has nothing to do with it now. Just go to the central authority, go to the digital money, and you'll be all set. You'll be fine. If you're a green corporation and you're failing, it doesn't matter. We're going to continue to fund you. We're going to have solar panels galore.

Even if there's not enough ore out there to create a battery, we're going to pretend that there is, and you're going to get a lot of money. Oh, yeah. Oh, absolutely. create a battery we're going to pretend that there is and you're going to get a lot of money you know oh yeah oh absolutely and the way they're coming after everything online you got an article earn it the earn it bill yeah tell us about the earn it bill and online privacy what is that about with lindsey graham you're going to have to earn a position on the internet right oh man good old lindsey good old lindsey all right yeah so the earn it bill um that one and it's all tied into there's a senate version there's a house version of this and the senate version is very very close to a to a floor vote it's sp 3538 and it just came out of the judiciary committee or if you if you ride the metro

in washington it's called the judiciary i love the accent that they have there but originally was proposed in 2020 by lindsey graham and it went nowhere but the great hero of vietnam senator richard blumenthal of connecticut reintroduced it of course after he actually never went to vietnam and did any actual actual action there and then he was exposed for it um so the earnard act essentially uh has to do with section 230 of the 19 1996 communications decency act and and within that what they did was and again you know this is all predicated on an illegitimate assumption of of u.s power in one area and a legitimate assumption of u.s power in another area so i'll go with the legitimate

assumption first the legitimate well under their constitution as a christian anarchist i don't necessarily agree that the constitution is a valid document for me it's been foist on me but i would at least ask those guys to conform to it if they promise they're going to conform act by it as a condition of their authority they they they sign their name to the social contract but you can't exactly exactly yeah yeah exactly so so um under under the uh constitution as you know, the Congress can create the court system above the state Supreme Courts and below the federal Supreme Courts. So the entire circuit court system and federal district court systems and so on, those are all creations by Congress. And as such, Congress can then block certain types of cases from getting into those courts. So for example, in 2005,

they had the Legal Transactions and Firearms Act that Biden wants to just eliminate, right? So you can't have lawsuits for liability and malfunctioning of guns, claiming that they malfunctioned just because someone shot someone else. They blocked those liability suits. In a similar way, what the 96th Communications Decency Act did was it blocks two things. It blocks the states from being able to bring action for what they call child sexual abuse material, child porn. The states can't take action against internet service providers or social media sites or so on. If the FCC claims, and this is where the unconstitutional aspect of it comes in, because the FCC is massively unconstitutional. If the FCC

determines that the online host curated the material in what they call good faith. Now, of course, that's very subjective. It leaves them the power to say, well, you didn't do it in good faith. That's their power grab. that assumption for any ISP or any social media site that allowed people to use cryptography or any type of like a code key. So you're essentially guilty until you prove that you've earned it. Yeah. Yeah. So essentially what it will do is incentivize anybody to say, look, we can be shut down immediately if you don't give us the codes, if you don't give us your encryption codes. And then they will give these people liability protection just like they did after the Snowden revelations about the Verizon wiretapping and the NSA andames clapper saying um not knowingly in front of widen right so what they'll do is they'll give it give indemnification to these corporations

if they turn over the encryption keys so that basically what they're trying to do is a back doorway to not only stifle speech but to shut down crypto communications, cryptocurrency. So that's what the earn it bill is. And yeah, essentially it would just make it impossible for people to do any sort of interaction online with encryption unless they go super, super underground web. Well, you know, we see them coming after crypto in so many subtle, devious ways. You know, the earn it act is one of them. Restrict is another one. You know, when they crypto in so many subtle, devious ways. The Earn It Act is one of them.

Restrict is another one. When they come in and then say, well, if we have deemed an entity, who might they have in mind? A foreign cryptocurrency exchange or something. If we deem them to be a bad actor and you deal with them, you're going to get a massive fine. And then if you use a VPN so that we can't see that you're doing it, we find out somehow anyway,

then we're going to come after you with a million dollar fine. You know that this is about crypto. You know that it's about the cryptocurrency because that's what they're trying to, to chop down. So it's amazing to me to see all the different tentacles that are coming out of the federal government, you know, trying to wrap its way around crypto and to strangle it and it's just another one of these things really the earn it bill i mean yeah and david you know i think part of the problem is that there's so

much information coming around that it it becomes hard to juggle all the little balls you know so you've got matt taibi's work has just been stellar excellent excellent work then you've got Matt Taibbi's work has just been stellar. Excellent, excellent work. Then you've got the other facets of that, which are the emotional sides of them testifying in front of Congress and then him being attacked by the IRS. So you've got that additional information. You've got the earn it act. You've got the restrict act. You've got this new information from MRC. And evidently, from what I'm hearing, MRC is going to be. So then you've got NewsGuard. You've got the Virality Project. You've got the Portman Murphy stuff. So, you know, I'm familiar with this because I've been working with this for a number of years. And, you know, I spent hours over the weekends sometimes responding to idiotic emails from NewsGuard. And all they would have to have done was just hit the hyperlinks in my articles and they would find that everything's verified, especially my climate change stuff.

I wrote a 3,000 word response to NewsGuard a year ago because they didn't click hyperlinks in my pieces. It was all there. I mean, it's just infuriating to think about what they're doing to not only me but to my friends you know eric scheiner he's got a family he could be he could you know it's just it's so stupid and and so to me why because i haven't had any interaction with news guard yeah so you're writing an article and uh they send you a thing and they're threatening to take some kind of an action if you don't explain yourself to them what kind of an action are they threatening yeah well what happens is so newsguard uh it's one of these things where uh advertisers on on websites can go to newsguard as a so-called service and because they're yeah exactly soft owns that yeah exactly exactly exactly because they're connected

to microsoft they have massive clout for the advertisers to say well if you get the green check on your website you're seen as a trusted news provider and it goes way back to that whole thing of prop or not back in 2017 so there's such a long history of the because they're never going to stop. They're never going to stop trying to demonize people and broad brush people and trying to label them in this gaslighting way of you're the bad guys. And if you speak up against us now, you're dangerous. Yeah, it, uh, nigglers and, and,

um, sort of officious people who just, they basically will send emails out just to waste your time. Yeah. And so it's a, you want to keep their, the status with them. Yeah. Approve status or they'll shut down,

uh, advertising to you. Yeah, yeah, exactly. They'll take you off their preferred advertiser list and that's you know for for uh anybody especially like the media research center that's a big deal because they're all donations yeah they're yeah so um it's tough

you know it gets very very difficult and so the the uh the news guard forces out there are you know they paint themselves as these polished paladins in their armor, like Mick Jagger on a fine Arab charger. But they're not. They're just propagandists themselves. part of the problem where you know it goes it goes way back to the assumption by the the big three media networks that they were the news that walter cronkite was the most trusted name in news cnn you know i mean you find out the guy's a socialist and it's his voice doing the owl and in the grove out west you know um so they ought to call it the brohemian not boemian, but Bohemian Grove. Yeah. But yeah, so that's what they do.

They try to trip people up. They take our time. And of course, the end product, the final product of it is to basically demonetize us in a roundabout way. You know, I'm looking at your bio here, and I should have read this when I brought you in, but we wanted to get right into that stuff here. You are such a Renaissance man, man guard and it's truly amazing i look back at your experience here tv script writer journalist syndicated radio host uh you teach your lecture on political economics so you've been involved in star trek as well as the outer limits and all the rest of the stuff the stuff that we all watch uh you're out there writing that kind of stuff and then of course novels and you're working on a novel right now right yeah oh man boy you made my day david you know

i've been really sick and i've been sitting in front of the computer sometimes with like the fever trying to get through the novel like okay i'm gonna keep going yeah i had a bunch of novels that um novels and novellas that were supposed to have been published by a publishing company out in California. And then when the pandemic came along, well, first what happened was one of the major figures at it almost went blind. He's a really good guy. So I just waited,

and they had to take a lot more time. And so then the pandemic came, and they said, oh, let's wait. Let's not put these out. I had a different opinion. I thought, you know, I think it would be really good to get these out because people are at home and they might want something to read, you know.

But there was nothing I could do about it. And so I've never really gone with like trying to get a large agent or anything for my prose fiction. an agent and, you know, go down to New York and try to go to some of the, some of the big, um, um, uh, industry meetings and get it and get somebody who, you know, can get my stuff out to like, uh, tour and especially fantasy type stuff. But, um, yeah, so I have, I have, uh, you really should do that. You should use a pseudonym though, because they probably know writer guard as well as news guard and action guard and the rest of the stuff i can see it now everybody returning my my books backwards you know maybe i go to the mises institute say hey ryan can i get some of your next book but um but it's interesting because

i actually did decline a contract from another publisher um uh for horror there was a mid-range publishing company and the reason I declined it was because they had sent me the contract. And then I got an email from their PR woman, like, like the next day, I was just starting to look at the contract. And, um, and she said, Oh, so I'm wondering about what you're going to do about your name. And I'm looking at this, I'm reading down a little further and she says, well, you know, we're, we're looking forward to working with you. And, um looking at this, I'm reading down a little further and she says, well, you know, we're looking forward to working with you and, you know, we'll have to come up with a name that we can promote on your books rather than your political work. So they were looking at my Twitter and my other releases online and they were saying, oh, that's a liability for you.

What she probably didn't realize was that I probably would attract more people to the books from my political stuff because that's really where I'm known. But yeah, it's been really tough. So right now I'm going through some things. Everything is connected. All the work I'm working on is all part of a larger mosaic. And I'm trying to attract people who are sort of like fans of the hp lovecraft stuff and then in the end bring a lesson about logos and jesus and um um try to explain to people like look you don't get the material world from anything other than something from god you don't get the physical from anything except metaphysics and so yeah so i've got a couple things that are in the pipeline now so i'm looking forward to it i I'll dedicate one to you, sir.

It'll be a good thing. If you're going to go from H.P. Lovecraft to Jesus, maybe call it post-Tenebrous Lux, right? After darkness, light. It is tough. It is tough when you're out there and you speak, and, you know, I understand why they said that. That's a sad commentary on the world that we live in now you know you got to hide your your politics uh you've got an article about john cleese and of course you know he's not immune from this kind of stuff rowan atkinson is not

immune from it and he's spoken out on it as well uh you got an article about uh the life of brian line that uh they're giving them all kinds of problems. It's not over mocking Jesus and the blasphemy. I know. I know you got a movie. I know. You know, you got to hand it to the Monty Python guys. They, you know, as, as frustrating as it was when I was a kid and I saw that they were sort of, you know, they're mocking the New Testament. They did it in that indirect way so they could kind of get away with it.

And, oh, it's not Jesus we're mocking. It'srian that we're oh i see okay fine you know um but yeah that opening line where john eric idol's character says i want to be a woman i want to have babies and john clinton's like well you're a man you can't have babies you don't have a uterus where are you going to put it in a shoebox and he, it's my right as a man to be a woman. Ahead of their time, were they? I know. And of course, I guess, you know, they did have some members who were of that tribe. Great.

Yeah. We look at it now and it was like, um, I saw that and it was just like kind of cringy. And I thought that's so cringy and strange. It's like the lumberjack thing, you know, and that is so strange. I didn't, I was completely oblivious to that whole subculture there at the time.

Why are they doing that? Uh, but, uh, you know, it was, uh, but,

but he has been outspoken in terms, even though we don't agree with him on many things, you know, there'd be religious or other things like that. Certainly he and Rowan Atkinson understand just how dangerous this whole censorship thing is. And of course, for them, it puts them out of business because nobody can crack any jokes about anything. Everybody's got to be on edge about everything. And nothing is funny because they themselves are the joke, right?

Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, I think it's interesting. Maybe it's just, you know, my aging as my skin becomes seasoned like tough leather. But, you know, I find a great satisfaction in seeing some of these people that I admired for their wit. Now I admire them for their wisdom or their courage. And it's like with the book thing, you know, somebody, I said, you know, why would I do that? And someone was like, well, it's a simple thing. Why not just change it? I was like, because it's my name. Yeah.

I mean, what, why, my parents gave me this name. What are you, an idiot? That's insane. Why would I do that? You know, I was like, you live, this is it. Like, you don't back off on principle. Otherwise, why be alive? I understand. back off on principle otherwise why be alive right yeah it's like it made me angry when i would see

people on youtube during the vaccine stuff and they would say you know i'm going to talk about the thing you know what i'm talking about here that thing you know i can't say it on youtube but the thing and it's like just say it and let them cancel you don't censor yourself if they're going to censor you that's bad enough but it's even worse when you censor yourself to try to get on their platform they're just going to shadow ban you or do other things like that anyway and so that that was something that always bothered me and um you know and so i certainly understand why you would not want to use a pseudonym in order to appease the gods of the publishing houses yeah but the time is coming dav, David, and I'm really looking forward to it. As you know, I've been real sick,

and it sort of feels like you've been in a box. I've got the writing, you've got all these things coming, and I've been slowly building things, and your listeners have been amazingly supportive for what I've been doing on the political stuff. As you know, I'm not full-time with MRCTV. I'm just on contract with them.

I do a certain number of pieces per week, a certain number of videos per week. And then I have other things like teaching and things like that. And the fiction part of it has been so important. And you feel like you're in the corral and you're just ready to go, you know? So there'll be some good things coming down the line.

And I'm really looking forward to being able to talk to people about it when everything's all set and I can feel comfortable and say, yeah, I'm giving something good to people. I'll be happy with that. That's great. I know you don't have a problem with writer's block, but you've been having a lot of problems with nasal block this last week. And so people pray for Gard. He's been really sick this week. We're going to have him on earlier, but he was sick with that.

Before we run out of time, let's talk a little bit about where people can find you. Liberty Conspiracy. Tell us the platforms, the best ways for people to find your content there. Of course, you're on MRCTV. You're on Liberty Conspiracy. You're on Substack. Tell us all the different places and the best ways for people to connect up with you. Right on.

Okay. Well, if people want to find me Monday through Friday, except for tomorrow night, I won't be able to do it. Over at Rockfin, thanks to the Rockfin folks, and thanks to me because I was able, you asked me to fill in for you. The Rockfin people were very amenable. Rockfin, the Liberty Conspiracy, Liberty Conspiracy Live at 6 o'clock every monday through friday also my sub stack it's just gardner goldsmith sub stack and people can check out my work there on twitter i'm at guard goldsmith and on gab it's gardner goldsmith and if they want to find some fiction that i've already got out there right now um they can find my fiction at amazon at barnes noble i would recommend there's a short novella that's called bite which is sort of like kolchak the night stalker and there. I would recommend there's a short novella that's called Bite, which is sort of like Kolchak the Night Stalker. And there's another one.

Yeah. There's another one called Fishing, which is very dark. There's some very violent stuff in there. So it's not recommended for younger teens in particular. And also another one called Wall, which is sort of crypto archaeological stuff. And other than that that I would just say if people want to also maybe go to rumble look for the Liberty conspiracy channel there as well we're looking for people and we just got to a thousand

followers on rock fin so great please help out and spread the word and yeah you know it'd be great and you're on rock fin and people can go to Amazon or other places search for your name to find the books. You also had a novel, Live Free or Die. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, well, actually, Live Free or Die is an interesting combo. It's my nonfiction collection of articles along with a script that was never produced from the outer limits. And if people are familiar with Prometheus, they'll recognize a scene that's actually very similar to Prometheus

that came a few years before that. Wow. And, yeah, so. Always a head on the curve. Guard Goldsmith, thank you so much. Thank you for coming on. Joe, we've got a problem. What?

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