The David Knight Show - INTERVIEW "High Attitude: The Liberal Takeover of Aspen"

Episode Date: April 28, 2023

Glenn K. Beaton, a former token conservative columnist at The Aspen Times, now at Substack and theAspenbeat.com joins to talk about his new book "High Attitude". How did such a beautiful place become a celebrity cesspool of drugs where the problems are not due to poverty but due to wealth? Hunter S. Thompson, Charlie Sheen, Ted Bundy, the Kennedys, and others are part of Aspen's colorful history.Find out more about the show and where you can watch it at TheDavidKnightShow.comIf you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here:SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-showOr you can send a donation through Mail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @[e-mail] App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Money is only what YOU hold: Go to DavidKnight.gold for great deals on physical gold/silverBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.

All right. Welcome back. Our guest is Glenn K. Beaton. He was a token conservative. He says of the Aspen times, he was a columnist there for seven years before being fired by email one Christmas Eve because of their dismay. He had become the most popular columnist in 140 year history of the newspaper. His column often generated more clicks than front page news. Since then, he had become the most popular columnist in the 140-year history of the newspaper.

His column often generated more clicks than front-page news. Since then, he's taken a show on the road. He has nearly a million readers of his blog at theaspenbeat.com. He's practiced law at the Supreme Court. He's been an aerospace engineer for Boeing. He's worked as a roustabout in an oil field. A lot of different things. He's an accomplished amateur mountaineer he summited the eiger as well as a matterhorn there you go up the eiger watch out for that guy that's

limping uh he could be coming for it and a full member of the mountain rescue of aspen colorado and of course aspen is a place that has always fascinated us this the wealth the celebrity the beauty of the place but he's going to tell us what is happening there. Thank you for joining us, Glenn. Good morning, David. Good to be here. It is interesting to look at it. And, you know, when I look at your book here,

and of course the book I should mention is High Attitude. Attitude, not altitude. High Attitude, The Liberal Takeover of Aspen. It just came out April the 18th. So you'll be able to find that book but he says it's ugly truth about aspen and other resorts and what the rest of america should avoid and i think that when i look at this and you talk about the wealth effect and the stratification that is happening there it does look to me like what they have planned for everybody

this concentration of wealth in 2030. Talk a little bit about what is happening there in terms of the wealth effect. Well, Aspen has really gone crazy in the real estate department, especially. You know, price of housing now is somewhere between $3,000 and $6,000 a square foot. It's not at all unusual to see slope side mansions going for literally $100 million. So you have the billionaires have sort of driven out the millionaires. Mere millionaires can't really afford Aspen very well, unless there's a sizable group of people. In fact, it's 45% of the voters in Aspen are in taxpayer subsidized housing. So this subsidized housing is really extreme. It's not just mildly subsidized. You So this subsidized housing is really extreme.

It's not just mildly subsidized. You get a place that's worth probably two to four, maybe five or $6 million for dime on the dollar. I lived next door to one of these projects for several years. It was almost slope side. The real fair market value was probably $5 or $6 million. And I looked up to see what they had

paid for it they'd paid like 290 270 000 so there's this huge polarization there between the billionaires and the i say ordinary joes that are in the subsidized housing now i have to mention that the subsidized housing ordinary joes aren't exactly Budweiser light drinkers. They're even today's Budweiser light drinkers, if there are any left. The income cutoff for getting into the taxpayer subsidized housing is $300,000. And the net wealth cutoff is a million dollars. So they're literally putting millionaires with up to $300,000 income into taxpayer subsidized housing that they get for dimes on the dollar. Now you might wonder, how do you get this gig? Yeah, that was my question. Yeah. What do you have to be to get

that? And who do you have to please? Well, basically the truth of it is you have to be an insider. They say that it's all determined by lottery and that you have to be working in Pitkin County, the county that includes Aspen. But in fact, the insiders, the politicians, the newspaper editors, the employees of Aspen Skiing Company seem to win a lot of these lotteries. I'm not saying the fix is in. I'll just say that these people are very lucky, it seems. So that's how you get in. And now they have 45% of the city in there. So you have these sort of moderately, I can't even call them low income people. As I say, they're up to $300,000 a year with a million dollars net worth. But you have these people who are not billionaires. And then you have on the other side of the street, the billionaires, you know, the people in the $100 million house.

So it's sort of amusing to see these two factions go at one another. Both are hard, hard left. The ones that are getting the subsidy think that they ought not have a $3 million house that they bought for $300,000. They ought to have a $7 million house that they bought for $300,000. They ought to have a $7 million house that they buy for $100,000. You know, once you start giving people free money, once they're on the dole, they're never satisfied. They want more of it. That's right. And, you know, we've seen this type of thing happening in New York and San Francisco and other places like that. Aspen is one of the most extreme examples of this. And I think it is the direction that we're going. You say, when you talk about the wealth effect, you say the problems

of Aspen are not due to poverty. They're due to wealth. You know, that's that we all aspire to having more money and yet it's this concentration of wealth. Isn't it? Isn't that ironic? It seems like, uh, the more material assets, the culture has the worse it has in moral assets and ethical assets.

But that's what's happened up in Aspen. There's no accountability because there's endless taxpayer money. The people with a $100 million Slopeside Mansion, you can imagine what their property taxes are. And they use virtually nothing in services because they're only out there three weeks a year. And their kids are going to school in the New Yorkork prep schools so it's all free money to the politicians and they spend it spend it spend it there's no accountability you know maybe we need to have that recession that the fed keeps promising us i don't think that's going to affect them though you know i've heard it described as uh just in general what has happened with america

in terms of our prosperity. You know, prosperity is a good thing, but it seems like I heard somebody say once the love of money is the root of all evil. And I think we love it so much it becomes kind of a disease. I've heard it called affluenza. And it's this concentration. You know, I grew up in Tampa when Tampa was not a big area, and it was a very suburban place. It's changed quite a bit from when I grew up there. And my wife was from New York, just outside of New York City. And I would go up there and that was where I first saw that kind of concentration. And it seemed like you had the people who were unbelievably rich and everybody else was just kind of trying to scrape by.

And it was so alien to me. I'd never seen anything like that before. But now that is happening everywhere. And I think that is really what they're trying to set up in every community with these cities. Yeah. You know, I don't really have a lot of sympathy for the billionaires, but I think I sympathize with the billionaires more than I do the people on the housing dole. At least the billionaires arguably earned their money. These people on the housing dole just never have enough. They want free money. You give them free

money. They want some more free money to justify the free money that they already got. It's kind of ironic, their argument. They don't realize the inherent contradiction in it. But they say that the reason that they're not rich is because they're not greedy. And so they need to take money from the people who are greedy, who are rich because they're morally superior to them because they're not greedy. And so they deserve more money. Yeah. It's like a hate crime. I know your motivation. I know what you're really thinking and you're, I deserve to take this from you because you're evil and I'm not, uh, talk a little bit about the celebrity aspects of it because that's the other aspect of aspen that's covered in your book uh and there's been some amazing incidents with some celebrities you mentioned uh hunter s thompson talk about that

well hunter s thompson moved to aspen like in the late 60s he was one of the ones who came early on and he came just about when aspen was going to pot i say that in all senses of the ones who came early on and he came just about when Aspen was going to pot. I say that in all senses of the word and it went to stuff worse than pot after his arrival. He was a character, I'll give him that. I don't think he was a particularly good writer and I go into that a little bit in my book but he was legitimately a character. He ran for sheriff of Pitkin County at one point. He actually won the popular vote in Aspen City limits, but he lost countywide. So that gives you a sense. And of course, he wanted to legalize drugs,

except that he wanted to put in stockades anybody who was selling bad drugs. So he was after the traffickers, but not the users. It wasn't clear from his analysis how the users were supposed to get their drugs if he criminalized the traffickers. But anyway, that was his shtick. Sorry, I was going to say, I guess it's like Supreme Court justice who says, I don't know how to define pornography, but I'll know it when I see it, I guess he knew that about bad drugs. Right?

Yeah. Right. Thompson ultimately killed himself in a way that was not very classy. He was a fool, not fooling around. He got his gun out in the kitchen and while his daughter and son-in-law were in the next room, he blew his brains out when he was on the telephone talking to his wife so they didn't find his body right away because when they heard the gunshot they thought it was just another liquor bottle hitting the floor which apparently happened with

some frequency in their kitchen but ultimately uh well i should say you know in 10 or 15 minutes they wander in there and they they found him without his brains for his funeral Johnny Depp handled the funeral at uh at Hunter's request so for his funeral there were all these celebrities you know John Kerry and the list goes on the typical woke crowd for the the finale of the funeral he had his cremated ashes shot up in the air by a cannon to spread over the ground below. It was a character, kind of a jerk. Kind of like SpaceX in Port Isabel, except not as much fireworks, right? Yeah, and then there's all the other celebrities, you know, this goes on and on. Charlie Sheen got arrested for beating up on

his girlfriend, or was she a wife at the time? Whatever, it's all the same. But he got arrested for that when he was either stoned or drunk or high or some combination of those things. He ultimately had to serve 30 days in jail, but he was already credited for time served. So he served virtually no time in jail. And he was ordered to go to anger management therapy for another 30 days, which, as I said in my book, I suspect just pissed him off. That's funny. Of course, there's also a connection to ted bundy there that you mentioned in the book oh yeah ted bundy about halfway through his killing sprees which is to say he'd

kill maybe uh 15 or so women he shows up in aspen and he kills a woman after doing what he did and throws her in the ditch for bear food and flees the state. So a year or two later, the investigators were putting together dots. Bundy, in the meantime, had been arrested in Utah and he was serving time. No, he wasn't serving time. He was incarcerated. He was jailed temporarily in Utah awaiting trial. And they put together some dots and decided that he was a suspect in that case, in the Aspen case. So they extradited him from Utah back to Aspen. And he was put in jail. But he was given library privileges library privileges well you can imagine what happened with his library privileges the library they didn't bother to lock so here they have this

accused murderer with library privileges in an unlocked library well i guess maybe the door was locked but the window wasn't and bundy was an enterprising enough individual that he was able to crawl out the window gee who would have thought So he crawls out the window and he resumes his killing spree. He ultimately confessed to this crime just before he was executed down in Florida. How many more people did he kill after he got out of the ass? Another 15 or 20. Wow. Another 15 or 20.

Wow. That's amazing. Yeah, he was a very intelligent person. I use him as an example many times. I say, you know, we look at people and we can't imagine how evil they are. And he's one of the best examples. Very intelligent, very, you know, great personality from what they all said in terms of the way he could come across people. Nobody can imagine somebody could be a monster like that. Yeah, he was a charmer. You know, that was part of his

M.O. He charmed people, and that's why they got in the car with him. Wow. Also, the Kennedys. They have a presence there in Aspen, right? Tell us a little bit about that. Well, the Kennedys go way back to JFK, but more after that, after he was gone with Jackie Kennedy and then the Suns. Jackie Kennedy was a pretty good skier.

She cut quite a striking figure on the slope. The sons and grandsons and nieces and nephews and so on were a little bit less striking. A couple stories are told. One of them is purely factual. Michael Kennedy was engaged in some hijinks skiing. So he was skiing down Aspen Mountain. And the Kennedys and their friends were reckless skiers, basically. He was playing football on skis. So, you know, one of them would ski ahead and the other would throw a football to him.

Aspen ski patrollers asked them to stop this game. It was obvious that they were doing this. They did it all the time. So they were sort of notorious for this. So Aspen ski patrol asked them to stop playing this game, but they didn't revoke their lift tickets. They didn't give them any warnings, anything like that. The ski patrol tends to look the other way

when it comes to these sorts of shenanigans by celebrities. So they resume their game. And so Michael goes out for a pass as they say he turns around so he's skiing backward and looking to catch the ball well he skis right off the slope into a tree no helmet and he was probably dead before he hit the ground wow so fortunately he didn't ski into another skier or we could have had two dead people yeah yeah got a sunny bono was sunny uh when sunny uh went off the slopes and hit a tree was he in aspen or is he some no he was somewhere in california i want to say tahoe but

no maybe he was in mammoth but no it was not in aspen or colorado wow yeah i had a a regular listener who was sending me stuff about Aspen going back in to January of 2021. And he was talking about how bad the lockdowns were there. And he said, we got two classes of people. We got billionaires and slaves. And I'm assuming that the slaves are not the people there with $300,000 income and a million dollar net worth. I mean, the people who have that kind of money and that kind of net worth are not waiting tables and serving pizza, right? So what happens to the people who are the slave class? Where do they live? Well, a lot of them

are in this taxpayer-subsidized housing for, you know, dimes on the dollar, and they want to make it pennies on the dollar. A number of others come from what we call up here down valley, in other words, down the Roaring Fork River outside of Aspen, sometimes as much as an hour commute. They complain about that. The typical commute is more like a half hour. They complain about that, though, saying that this proves the need for more taxpayer subsidized housing within city limits, which, by the way, costs about a million five per unit because they don't like the commute. I can't help but put that together with the commute of the average American.

I looked that up. The commute of the average American is about 30 minutes and you don't get to go through the beautifully scenic Roaring Fort Valley. You're likely to be on the Jersey Turnpike or something i know i know i had a half hour commute uh and oh actually i had an hour commute when i was in texas but i could turn it into a half hour early morning when i was going but uh yeah it was not uh not beautiful like i've been to aspen i've visited there just drove through to look at it uh it is a beautiful place and of course things were pretty tough there in january 2021 weren't they uh what my listener was sending me were uh they were talking about how you had to you know pass your pcr test and all the rest of the stuff even

to get in uh place even to get into the area even more so than you would at other ski resorts well there's an interesting story about that, too, involving Candace Owens, the conservative commentator. She came to Aspen during the height of that, and she's sort of a mask skeptic. But she decided, well, you know, I'm going to Aspen, and that's the rule. I'll follow the rule, even though I think this is all kind of baloney. So, you know, I'll mask up, and I'll get the advanced test, too think this is all kind of baloney. So you know I'll mask up and I'll get the advanced test too which they were requiring at the time. So she goes to the local test or this was before at home tests so you had to go down to a clinic or somewhere and get the

test. She goes down there to get the test, gives them her name, she looks, they look her up and realize who she is. She's this conservative happens to be black political commentator. And they refuse to give her the test because they say they don't like her politics. Really? They even said it out loud. Wow. Yeah. They said it was in emails. And so they initially sort of disputed this. And so she produced the emails and you know the emails were

there's a bell they showed that they were going to refuse to administer the test because they didn't like her politics particularly on this masking issue the irony to this is you know here they are endangering the community under their own standards which say you have to get tested and wear the mask and so on to drive home some sort of political point with somebody who's skeptical about that. But that's the way they are. They're willing to endanger the greater population in order to drive home a point against an individual that they don't like. Now, you're working in this environment and you're taking them on, as you said, the token

conservative there. I imagine things got pretty rough between you and them tell us a little bit about that what what was that like to be in that kind of an environment where they refuse to give you a test because they don't like your politics and you're writing columns there in that town what was that like well they wouldn't have hired me if they'd known how this how well it would go so they hired me to be their token conservative. I was supposed to be kind of like, what are they, the Washington Generals against the Harlem Globetrotters. Remember how the Harlem Globetrotters just had this bogus team whose job was to lose every game, and they succeeded in losing every game. You weren't supposed to beat the Globetrotters and they never, ever did.

I was supposed to be the Washington generals on the newspaper, the token conservative who was only there in order to get mocked. Well, as it turned out, though, the column took off, as you said at the outset. For a while, I was actually at the end, I was generating more clicks than front page news. Sometimes I would get picked up by some of the national sites, realtor politics, you know, whatever. And I'd get tens of thousands of clicks. Well, the whole circulation of the Aspen Times is only about 5,000.

So there I was just making a name for myself. And I was getting death threats. Not everybody liked me. I got a ton of clicks myself and I was getting death threats. Not everybody liked me. I got a ton of clicks, but I also got death threats. My my car windshield was smashed in broad daylight. It was a grocery store once I got so well for my mugshot for the column. I used a very blurry old picture with my head kind of turned and hope that they wouldn't recognize me. But I still would get recognized around town and get these dirty looks my general

policy was when i made a whole or a restaurant reservation i'd never made it my own name because i didn't want them to know that they were preparing and serving me before i ate the food and then they'd see who i was at that. I gave him my credit card. Maybe it always worked. Maybe I exaggerated the danger, but I did feel endangered. Wow. It always works. If you tell them Donner party, you know, that's always good for

whether he tell my name is Donner. They say, darn it. Donner party of three. And we're table is ready. We'll have you over for dinner. Well, you know, it is interesting to look at it, and, you know, let's talk a little bit about how it got that way, because, you know, when we lived in Texas, we would go to a lot of places in the west and northwest,

up in Colorado, or we'd go up into Washington State and Oregon, beautiful places. And most of them have been taken over. Certainly the urban areas taken over by the rich people, by the liberal people, they they've marched through the institutions. They've marched through the beautiful areas because they've got so much money. Uh, that is the thing that we're seeing happening everywhere. Even here, we're now in Tennessee. You have to, you know, all the problems that we see happening in politics are coming from the big cities, are coming from Nashville, are coming from Memphis, are coming from Knoxville. And so you see the cities everywhere are going. Any thoughts about, you know, we can talk about Aspen in particular, but any thoughts in general about why that is?

Well, in Aspen, at least, and I think to some extent elsewhere, too, because I think Aspen is kind of a canary in the coal mine, culture-wise. In Aspen, a big part of it, I think, is drugs, which really came around in the late 60s and then the 70s and continued from there. Colorado, you may know, has legalized marijuana. But Aspen, it was essentially legal long before they legalized it in Colorado. The legalization in Colorado came through a citizen's initiative. And it won, I think, something like 60-40 or 55-45, something like that. Well, in Aspen, the margin was like 80, 20 to legalize pop. And so they did. But even before then, it was everywhere. I don't know if you ski, but a ski gondola, the ski gondola that goes up Aspen Mountain is a pretty small enclosed space. It's

about the size of a small walking closet. And of course, the windows are closed because it's cold outside. Well, you get into a ski gondola, you typically share it with several other people, and it would be very common for them to light up in this closed space, which I thought was kind of rude, especially if children are with you. The policy of the local sheriff. This is interesting. I think he's just following the desires of his constituency. But the policy of the local sheriff is that drugs should be legalized of all kinds, you

know, heroin, fentanyl, you name it. The Drug Enforcement Administration is active, as you might imagine, up in Aspen. And they don't really think drugs should be legalized, or at least if they do, they're willing to enforce the law as it's written in the meantime. So they will do their drug bust from time to time. People often think, oh, gee, we're willing to enforce the law as it's written in the meantime. So they will do their drug busts from time to time. People often think, oh, gee, we're cleaning up drugs. Well, no, these drug busts aren't a sign that we're cleaning up drugs. It's a sign of how much drugs is out there.

But when the DEA does a raid, typically their policy throughout the country is they'll give a heads up to local law enforcement just so they know what's coming down in case there's any turmoil in aspen they don't do that and the reason they don't do that they're fairly candid is they're afraid that the local law enforcement will tip off the dealers there have been several instances where it appears that that's happened well it is interesting because you know i've and my sense you're talking about the enclosed gondola. He says, yeah, nothing like getting a contact high before you go downhill.

Scaling escape. Maybe that's what happened to the Michael Kennedy. I don't know, but keep in mind, you're about to do something that is inherently a little bit dangerous. Yeah. There you are getting, um, against against your will you're getting high yeah you climb mountains i don't imagine you get high before you climb the mountain that's not a good

idea you know even if you're going to do it afterwards do it afterwards but not before right i'll take the high on top yeah the rocky mountain high but i don't know about john denver maybe anyway the uh you know when we look at, I think that brings up an interesting point that I've talked about many times. And we saw this happening throughout the COVID nonsense, I call it. And that is the local sheriff and the local authorities can make things better or they can make things worse. And they have a lot of power.

And there's also, I think, one of the things that's interesting, I talk a lot about the Constitution and the 10th Amendment and how we can nullify things. That's a peaceful alternative to secession or something. So we're just not going to enforce that law. We've seen the left do that over and over again with medical marijuana or other types of marijuana. And people need to understand that that's a viable thing to do in terms of gun control legislation or in terms of right now we've got a lawsuit that's just been filed here in Tennessee where Biden says, no, you can't stop the mutilation and sterilization of kids surgically and chemically.

And so the Tennessee law says we're not going to do that to kids. He says, no, we're going to make you do that. It seems to me like if you look at the you know they they could be a good example for us regardless of what you say about the the drug stuff and how it has you know messed with the community but from a legal standpoint they have illustrated the power of the 10th amendment even with jeff sessions in there uh he never did take this to a direct conflict because i think they didn't want people to realize that the Constitution says that states and local authorities have that kind of power. So I think that's one good thing that could come out of it that we look at it. But, you know, when we talk about how these these enclaves turn into these liberal enclaves, that may be part of it.

It may be their connection to the government that can channel them cash. Right. Because, uh, that that's one of the things I thought about, what do you think about that type of thing? Certainly there's perhaps a money being made out of drugs, but also when we look at, um, you know, how, um, how we've got this concentration of wealth there. A lot of these people are heavily involved with the government in one way or the other, whether it's a favors with the drugs or whether it's some kind of crony capitalism. Is that what

is causing this kind of concentration of wealth and power in these cities against us? What do you think? Yeah, you know, there's an elite establishment, and Aspen is neck deep in the elite establishment. And they all kind of engaged in this group think. In a couple months, there's the annual Aspen Ideas Festival coming up, where they've been doing this for geez, I don't know, 60 years or something. It started out as a great thing. It was founded by a Chicago industrialist, Walter Pepke, who moved to Aspen and sort of refounded the place after the quiet days in the interim between the Silver Bust in 1891 and World War II. So there was this great thing that happened. But now you look at what they're doing and the idea is it's like all stale ideas. Let's talk about global warming. Madeleine Albright came out

more times than I want to remember. She must have had a group raid or a vacation raid at the Sheridan or something. When they have a debate, their typical debate is going to be what they see as balance. Well, their balance is going to be somebody like Don Lemon and Paul Krugman on the left and Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney on the so-called right. Forget about getting somebody like Tom Cotton or Ted Cruz for all for sure. Forget about getting Donald Trump. You know, it's all it's all rigged. It's all biased. And you get kind of fed up with it.

Yeah. One of the things one of the people who's knee deep in all this establishment stuff is Aspen Skiing Company. They're the dominant employer in the valley. They're not a huge company. They do maybe 100 million dollars a year. They're owned by the Krong family out of Chicago, which also owns General Dynamics, huge family worth probably $10 billion. This is not the biggest jewel in the crown's crown. But anyway, this guy is so political and so woke, you wouldn't believe it. He wrote, well, he's upset by the fact that there aren't very many black skiers in Aspen.

In fact, there aren't very many black people in Aspen. I don't know of a single black person who lives in Aspen. I'm not trying to be racist here. I'm just telling you what I know about, I personally know I could be wrong about the demographics. I've been around and the nearest black person that I know is a friend down valley about 20 miles. But anyway, the head of Aspen Skiing Company was just outraged, full of angst that there weren't more black skiers. So he managed to entice a black skiing group. There's a black skiing group, a national group, to come to Aspen, and he dubs it Black Ski Week.

Okay, fine. I don't have any objections to that. But he sends around a memo to all thousands of their employees, instructing them how to behave around black people. Did they get the Jamaican ski team or what was it? The bobsled team or something like that? Well, so in this memo at first, you know, I think it's kind of outrageous that he thought that he, that he felt the need to send a memo around to his employees telling them how to behave around black people. I think telling them how to behave around black people. Yeah.

You know, I think they know how to behave around black people. You behave, you know, decently and courteously in the same way you behave around white people or whatever. But no, he said, you have to, you have to see their blackness. You have to not be colorblind and don't dare tell them such things as oh the restaurant doesn't open till five so come back then because they might interpret that as an act of discrimination don't tell them oh you can't park here this is only for valet parking because they might interpret that as an act of discrimination well i don't think he thinks very much of black people either i don't

think a black person is going to interpret, oh, the restaurant doesn't open till five or no, you can't park here, it's only for ballet. I don't think an ordinary black person is going to interpret that as an act of racial discrimination. And how is this policy really supposed to play out? Suppose you own a restaurant

and a black person comes knocking on the door at four o'clock and you don't open until 5. You're supposed to let them in and serve them food even though the staff's not there? It's crazy. They must not have gotten that memo about when Candace Owens was there, right? She did not get the black red carpet treatment, I guess we call it. To her credit, she laughed the whole thing off. Yeah. You know, she could have played the race card.

She could have done all kinds of things, but she just, she literally laughed, shrugged her shoulders and yeah, whatever. And that is the case. I mean, we know that if the same thing had happened, you know, been a conservative place and it's like, we don't like your politics. So you can't come in. If it was a black liberal that that was told told to they would say it was all about racism and so she's not pulling that card on them because we know the liberals can never be racist right they can be

condescending they can be hateful but they can be all these other things but they can never be raceful uh racist well that's right and the flip side of that is conservatives can never not that's right that's right you're guilty as charged. Talk a little bit about the Aspen Institute, because that's what a lot of people hear about. Tell people what that is about. And that's where you get a lot of the celebrities, the big political figures coming in, I guess, on a regular basis. Well, the Aspen Institute was founded by this fellow I mentioned before, Walter Pepke, who came out from Chicago. And he had this whole Chicago mafia. I use that obviously in the colloquial sense and this very

charming wife, Elizabeth, who became the grand dame of Aspen after he passed away. But he started this back in 1949 he intended it to be a celebration of the 200th birthday of wolfgang von goff the german poet and so he did and it was a huge success he had music there as well mostly bach beethoven there was this big german connection that's right i mean i was just talking today about how they just up in Washington, they completely decided in one school district, said we're not going to have any music where you have wind instruments or violins because that's racist. So we're going to shut down. I saw that too. Can you believe it? Yeah, I can believe it. So he starts this racist organization to have Mozart and Bach and everything.

Then what happens? Well, it takes off. The guy's very well connected. And so is his wife. His wife was, I think, the daughter of a romance literature professor at the University of Chicago. So she had all these connections, too. Mortimer Adler came out, wound up spending most of his summers in Aspen for the rest of his life. And the Institute took off. Pecky lost some money on it initially, but he didn't care. And it took off. He established a campus for it, which is about a mile from downtown within walking distance. And they've been doing this yearly

ever since. Ultimately, it became more and more woke, politically correct first, and now woke, to the point where I think it's a little bit of a woke joke but for a while it was a fabulous organization and so was the aspen music festival the aspen music festival has a school so they rent a campus from one of the private schools during the summer when the private school is out of session. And they bring world class youngsters anywhere from typically teenagers to young, young 20s. It's a wonderful thing because these guys wander around town with their instruments and they'll set up tin cups

on a street corner and play just fabulous music, mostly classical, some jazz, a little bit of swing. Well, I can't talk about that without mentioning that the music director, another very woke person now, unfortunately, he noticed that a lot of the musicians, in fact, practically all of their classical musicians were not black. Few of the jazz musicians were, and some jazz musicians came out to play. I think Miles Davis came out once. John Coltrane might have come out once. But anyway, he was dismayed by the fact that not enough of the students were black. And in the string instruments, they tended to be Asian. So he decided to basically establish quotas now for black kids.

Admission to the music school now is based largely on the color of your skin. You don't get credit for being Asian though because there's already too many Asians in his view, at least in string instruments. But you do get credit for being any uh, any color, I guess, other than white or Asian. Wow. Wow. So if you're Asian, you need to learn sax or something, right? Go against the type, you know, no personal preference of what people like to play. That doesn't count into any of this stuff. Merit doesn't count into any of it. It is the ultimate

racism to determine everything based on people's skin color. Isn't it? And that's where we are now. Uh, it is kind of interesting to see how this is unfolded and Aspen. It is a cautionary tale for us. I, we live, uh, you know, not too far from the smoky mountains here. I think it's a beautiful area. I certainly hope the liberals don't come in here and take it over.

Maybe what we need to do is do as much as we can to make it more redneck, you know, start flying Confederate flags everywhere, just as a repellent to these people, you know, I'm not going back. Shoot all your Bud Light cans. It was great talking to you. It sounds like a fascinating book. Again, the book is high attitude and that, uh, goes along with the drug stuff, I guess. High attitude, the liberal takeover of Aspen. It just

came out and I guess people find that Amazon, any other place you have a website that you sell direct to that? Uh, my website is the Aspen beat. Yes. Aspen beat. Spelled B E A T.com. I'm also on sub stack. Okay, good. Good. Look for Glenn K that's Glenn with two N's Glenn K beaten. You can find them at the Aspen at Aspen beat.com. And, uh, also on sub stack. It's great talking to you.

Uh, it's a beautiful place. Are you still, just one last go. Are you still in Aspen or did they run you out of town? They kind of ran me out of town, but not very far. I sold my house in downtown Aspen to a billionaire. And I'm building a house outside of Aspen. So I'm not in the city limits. Good, good.

As you move just a little bit, you can make kind of an arbitrage there by selling selling the thing that's closer in and you move further out. That'd be a good deal. And you can still be there close to the mountains. It is a beautiful area up there. I love Colorado. I just can't handle the politics that were there. It is still a spectacularly beautiful area. I tell you where I live, but God knows I don't want that. That's right. Yeah, no, don't tell anybody. It's enough to say that you're in Colorado. They'll probably fair you out. Now you'll get a, uh, if they have a liberal version of 4chan, they'll figure out where you are.

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