The David Knight Show - INTERVIEW Jan6 and Brazil — the Common Thread

Episode Date: January 31, 2023

Billy Ray Valentine, "Infinite Fringe" and "America Unplugged", on the common thread between the US & Brazilian election protests and the threat of the metaverse Find out more about the show and where you can watch it at TheDavidKnightShow.com If you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here:SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-showOr you can send a donation through Mail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @[e-mail] App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Money is only what YOU hold: Go to DavidKnight.gold for great deals on physical gold/silverBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.

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No, we bet more power to you. T's and C's apply 18 plus bet responsibly gambling care. Dot E Billy Ray Valentine. And of course you'll see Billy Ray with America unplugged and a host of infinite fringe on Apple podcasts and pod bean. Thank you for joining us today. Thank you for having me, David.

It's an honor to be on with you. I tune into you all the time. You know this, but you are the reason that I stuck around with InfoWars for as long as I did. And as soon as you left, I left. So I'm honored to be here. Well, thank you very much. Tell us a little bit about yourself. You got started doing wrestling reports, didn't you?

Yeah, yeah. I did pro wrestling for a long time. I always wanted to do this, right? I always wanted to get involved, right? Like after the 9-11 attacks, I'm here, I'm from New York. I was here when everything went down, you know, and, uh, and slowly I realized, uh, well, people started giving me, you know, alternative information and I started to look it up in, in, in order to debunk it. And that didn't work. Right. Um, I started.

That's important. I just, I don't know if you heard it or not, but I just had the story about, and I can't tell that it's satire or, or sarcasm because I don't see that anywhere else on the site. It's like, why didn't anybody tell us? Well, you know, you got something that's happening like 9-11. Why wouldn't you look that up and kind of question that, you know? Exactly. You know, and so I did that and, and I knew I had to do something. So I always did like street, street activism here in New York, right? Oh, good.

Overall 9-11. I mean, at ground zero, I go down every year and, you know, give out pamphlets and talk to people, you know, uh, but, but I wanted to do something more, right. To affect a bigger crowd. And, uh, I was not ready. I mean, I still may not be ready, but I figured I'd jump in anyway, but I didn't, I wasn't, I didn't feel like I was the right person to do it. You know, I didn't feel like I had the right chops for it or anything. so i started doing pro wrestling podcast because pro wrestling doesn't matter you know it's it's it's what it is right and it's so much like politics isn't it yes it's identical right i always say if if you're a pro wrestling fan and you realize the ins and outs of professional

wrestling you're gonna figure out the political game quick, fast, because it's the same thing. Deals and heroes. Right, right. And then they go back and have lunch with each other and the whole deal. That's right. And split the take.

Right, right. And that's the way they've been dividing us and doing this to us for quite a long time. But I started doing pro wrestling podcast and and i got involved with bill after i don't know if you're familiar with pro wrestling or or he he's a legendary photographer he he he uh took pictures of muhammad ali and uh and tons of wrestlers hulk hogan i mean he's a legend in professional wrestling and so i started doing work for him careful you get some trouble careful. You can get in some trouble taking pictures of Hulk Hogan.

Nowadays, for sure. $250 million judgment, you know. Sorry. You're good. You're good. Thank you. So I started doing that. And then eventually I figured that I was ready to, in some capacity,

I was a little more confident to jump into this. And I started doing the infinite fringe thinking i was going to save the world and i soon realized that you know that that wasn't going to be the case the world doesn't want to be saved they're just happy where they are they don't want to hear the truth that's too disturbing sometimes that's true yeah unfortunately and and it's it's caused like uh for lack of a better term a second and third awakening in my life you know because i i've realized this the hard way that's the only way the lord uh makes me learn things i have to learn them the hard way so i have to like confront them

and it has to slap me in the face so that that's how i got involved that this started doing the infinite fringe um and then i was approached by uh iconic that's a david ike's people to do a show on their platform and um i called it america unplugged i started doing america unplugged with don jeffries uh after a while we met tony arterburn and uh he started coming on the show and i just asked him i'm like hey listen just be a part of the show like be be be down with us you know yeah he was like sure sure i'll do that and uh he was instrumental in getting us on rockfin because i i wasn't with it at all he pushed me he's like let's do rockfin and i'm like okay let's let's do that um and i heard you talking about rumble earlier you know so that's something I'd have to talk with Tone about and Don, but sure.

Why not? Yeah, they just started last week from what I understand, doing live broadcasts and things like that. That's dope. So, I mean, that's something we'll definitely consider. Yeah, yeah, that's great. Well, you know, you look at it and you said you didn't really feel like you had the chops for it or you weren't ready for it.

I think everybody does. I mean, you know, it's kind of scary if somebody really thinks that they're cut out for this, you know. The world really needs to hear my opinions on this stuff. And, you know, I give my opinions on things, but for the most part, you know, I was very reluctant to do this as well. I don't like to speak in public and, you know, it's still very intimidating if I speak in a personal meeting you know, it's still very intimidating if I speak in a personal meeting or something like that in person.

Uh, but, um, you know, I, I looked at it as like, well, I have this information. I got to get it to people, you know, and it's about the information. It's not about me. And if it was about me, I couldn't do this. It's gotta be about the information. And so, um, you know, it, that's, that's the key thing. If you know this and you don't tell somebody about it, that's an awful thing to have to live with later.

No, and that's how I felt about it. I was like, I have all this information. And some of it, a lot of it wasn't accurate, you know, but some of it was. But at the time I felt like, you know, we needed to get out there and do something. It wasn't enough just to do activism on the street. And I'm like, how else do I step it up?

How else do I do something? And I would listen to Alex. And I was a big Alex Jones fan. And I remember him coming up one year in 9-11. I think it was 2006. He came up from the subway while I was going into into ground zero and i saw him and i'm like alex he's like alex jones alex jones you know and he shook my hand and i'm like uh dude what do i do alex what do i do he's like do your own thing start your own show come on let's go fight the

new world order you know um i'm like okay so i guess that's what i'll do and and that's what i did and now i'm here talking to you. Yeah. Yeah. I was very reluctant to get in front of the camera. I'd been behind the camera and I had done, and I kind of got into it gradually because I was, you know, I was doing video editing and things like that. And then I started with a, you know, think tank that I was involved with.

I started doing, uh, filming people and I would do a little bit of voiceover narration for it, but I would be doing the graphics and the editing and the filming and things like that with my sons. And then, um, I started doing contests because there was a period of time in like 2008, 2009, where there were a lot of contests out there. And I, I could look at the contests that were being put together by the conservatives and libertarian groups that were out there, and it's like, they were a slam dunk. It's like, oh, I can describe that. So I was very successful with that. But I wasn't successful. Infowars contest was one of the ones that I entered into. Wasn't successful with that. I didn't win it.

But Alex hired a bunch of people anyway, and Jakari won that contest, but I got hired in as part of that. And I was just doing, again, some reports and things that I was doing, like a stand-up thing. And that was not that much different from what I had been doing with Think Tanks. And then all of a sudden, you know, it was like, oh, why don't you put your own air? And it's like, well, I don't think I can really do that, you know. And so I did it a couple of times with Jakari, and then he comes in and tells me, now you're going to do it solo. And it's like, no, I can't do that. And so, yeah, God just moves you gradually into things like that. And that, that sounds like that's what happened in your life as well. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and, uh, I don't regret it. I've met so many cool people,

you know, uh, I've managed to build a humble audience, you know, and, um, I'm just grateful for, for everything, anybody who's ever listened to anything that I've ever audience, you know, and I'm just grateful for everything. Anybody who's ever listened to anything that I've ever done, you know, I'm very grateful for it. And I hope, you know, that we maintain the integrity and the moral high ground of trying to search for the truth. And that's what we try to do on America Unplugged with Tony and Don. And that's what I try to do on america unplugged with tony and and don and and that's what i try to do on the infinite fringe you know it's a very different show from where it started you know from from what i started doing um and and that's because i'm i'm constantly trying to to get on the right track so give people kind of an idea of the, sorry, give people an idea of how the two shows are different, right?

Besides the fact that it's a group of people. Yeah. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, David. So the Infinite Fringe was really conspiracy driven. I loved, and I say loved because I don't know if I love it anymore. I loved all types of conspiracies, fringe ones, listening about them and sitting there and like, oh, this is interesting and just going down the rabbit holes

and finding out. And a lot of them were very benign. And when you look at conspiracy theories, they can be a lot of fun and interesting, but we also have to be very careful because it can be a trap for us. This is a very, very serious time. The elites know it, and we need to understand that we're in the midst of a fourth turning. It's not the fourth industrial revolution. That's the way

Klaus Schwab likes to talk about it, but this really is a period of time that happens about once every 70 to 80 years where there's a major economic issue. Institutions are obviously corrupt at this point in time, and there is a massive restructuring of society, usually accompanied by a war. This is a very dangerous point in time. They are aware of this season that we're in, but most people are just kind of walking blindly into it. Okay, we got Billy Ray back. You were just telling us about the conspiracy theories and how entertaining it was when you first got into it. I used to cover a lot of conspiracies, a lot of things, and I started realizing that a

lot of them weren't real or just came from an avenue of control, from a place of control, from a place of deceit. I didn't want to be a part of that. I didn't want to disseminate that information. I didn't want to expose my audience to anything like that. So I switched it up. I lost a lot of the audience as a result, but I switched it up and decided that I would stick to what I could prove, you know, and if I was going to speculate, I'd speculate on more benign matters than, you know, what ultimately went down when I saw what was going down with... At this year's Cheltenham, glory rests in the lap of the gods. Curses. Alas, our hero hasn't placed. But there are still divine offerings up for grabs, with all NoviBet customers getting

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Gamblingcare.ie. With QAnon, right? Or the Sandy Hook, there was just a lot of disruption. There was a lot of deceit coming from it. While there were some areas that were worth exploring, right? And there were questions that needed to be answered, it wasn't all like that. It was taken to an extreme where nothing was real, everything was fake. I didn't want to be a part of that. Yeah. So I shifted my show as a result.

Yeah, that kind of reminds me of the whole Steve Pachinik sting thing that was the grounding of all this Stop the Steal stuff. It was so patently absurd. A guy who fabricates stories for the intelligence community for a living for years, and he comes up with this thing, and they treat it as if it was real. I mean, you even had Clarence Thomas' wife forwarding it to Meadows, the chief of staff at Trump's.

I hope this is real. There was no way that that could be real. And so that kind of brings us to the whole January the 6th thing. I opposed all that. I opposed him on air. Eventually, I wound up opposing Alex and getting fired over that stuff. But when you look at January the 6th, on the other end of it, that's the people that got hurt. The people who followed this, these lies, and didn't know any better about it and it is absolutely amazing what is being done to these people how they're being overcharged have they been in jail without due process or a speedy trial

have they been tortured it's absolutely amazing isn't no I I think you're right in in in large part that event I've been at odds with people with that event for a while you know and i think a lot of the people that went there were were well-meaning and and had the right intentions yes right um i do think that people like alec and ali alexander and michael flynn and we can go on and on they're responsible for creating creating an atmosphere that led to what happened on that day with a few people that took it to the extreme. They took it yet another step. Most people wouldn't have done that, that were there that day, but some people took it to another, to another level. What's going on with them as far as justice for them that's a whole nother issue right but but my my biggest uh

qualm with this whole deal is that the people that instigated this entire deal the people that were responsible for feeding the minds of so many well-meaning people with complete bull you know um to go up there and do what they did. They're still running around. Not only are they still running around, but they're running operations in Brazil now. It's the same names coming up, David. You know, like Steve Bannon. Steve Bannon, yeah.

And he's been at this since 2017. Cambridge Analytica was over in Brazil since 2017. This is nothing new. Right. And he's been instrumental on his podcast talking about how the election was stolen. The election was stolen in Brazil. The election was way before there was an election. He just said it was going to be stolen. A lot like what happened with Donald Trump here in the United States.

Steve Bannon. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And it's the sort of thing where we know that, you know. Ali Alexander. Yeah, I agree. It wasn't an issue as to whether or not there was corruption in the election. There's always corruption in the election.

It wasn't an issue as to whether or not they had increased the corruption. But there was also the issue that Trump was a part of that. You know, Trump created the mail-in election issue that's there. I agree. You know, I look at this and it's, I'm not looking to try to get, you know, try to redirect the January 6th witch hunt committee over to some people who were speaking out, even though they were deceiving people and making up fantasy stories and putting them into this thing. But I'm surprised that you don't have people whose lives have been impacted by this because they're peacefully exercising their right to redress their grievances and to speak peacefully, who are let into the Capitol and walking around. I'm surprised that those people don't sue.

That's where I think the result needs to come in with this. Look, I was seriously damaged. It should be a civil suit. I don't want the government coming in and punishing what they believe is false speech. But I think some people should be sued over that because people have legitimately been harmed. Some people have been driven to suicide by the political persecution that was the backlash of this fantasy crusade. That's what we should call it. That's a good term for it.

A fantasy crusade. And this is what I don't want the alternative media to become. We're supposed to be trying to find the truth, not trying to go down a path of a fantasy crusade, of a role-playing game. Michael Flynn, who was instrumental in what happened on January 6th, has been running mind operations, psychological operations, since at least 2010 with the SEL group over in Afghanistan. Admittedly, this is what the guy does, right? Intimately involved with QAnon. And so many people in the alternative media and now crossed over to the conservative right with this Christian nationalism that's unfolding right now. He's going out and he's, he's speaking all over the place and they have baptism,

baptisms going on outside, you know, like. It's amazing. I forget the name of that. Was it reawaken America or something like that? You go back and you look at 2000, I think it was 2014. It's before the transgender stuff was even on people's radar. And you've got pictures of Michael Flynn in his official capacity, you know, rewarding this Navy SEAL, what was his name? Kristen Beck, I think it was, who's now come out in opposition against all that stuff.

So, hey, these guys gaslighted me. They're using me as a poster child. Well, you know who used him as a poster child? It was Michael Flynn was one of the first ones to use him. And now he has reinvented himself as some kind of, you know, Elmer Gantry running around doing this phony Christianity, leading people in prayers of this, you know, cult, this nuclear weapon cult of this Elizabeth Clare prophet from the 1980s. I mean, it's absolutely, it's beyond parody. It really is. And people can't see that.

It's just like the stuff with Pchenik. It's like, you can't see this. I had so many people get so angry with me uh not just alex but the general public you know he knew better alex knew better uh the general public no this is real this is shut up you're gonna see it happen he's like he said people are already being arrested uh you know two days after the election come on so you know it is amazing and it is disturbing to me a number of levels because what Michael Flynn is doing with this deception and the people who are running this dog and pony show, and it includes all the usual crowd has got, you know, um, Rogers there. You

got, uh, you know, the, my pillow guy is there. All of these, all these guys are going around doing this dog and pony show at these big churches, the multi-million dollar buildings and everything. And they're feeding them a really phony, occultic version of Christianity, which to me, that is the thing that matters the most. Even more than any bad policies, any more than bad presidents. You're going to mislead somebody spiritually? That's the worst thing you could do. They're literal false prophets yes yeah julie green julie green my favorite false prophet because she's just such

a parody and she's an integral part of this eric trump you know and michael flynn and all these guys you know oh what does julie green say well you know julie green said that uh god had it for herschel walker he's a shoo-in, you know? Right, right, right. How many times does she get to be wrong like that? But she says, thus saith the Lord, you know, and she keeps going. And they've managed to weaponize Christianity and politicize Christianity. And it's been going on for some time, but this is at its peak right now.

I don't think I've ever seen it, this weaponized and this pushed forward in the forefront of the mainstream. And how do they do this, right? And you spoke about earlier in the broadcast how they have, you know, how social media is what's used, right? How Twitter is what's used and Instagram and Facebook, right? It's a data harvesting. I remember it's

like Palantir, the sea stone. And that's why Peter Thiel named his company Palantir, because they can literally predict the future with what's being put out into this social media by us. We are feeding this machine. And with doing that, we are giving them all the information that they need in order to almost 99%, according to their statistics, predict the future step-by-step. They know what you're going to do. They know what makes you tick. They know how you think and why you think it. And that's the ultimate key for complete and total manipulation. And I feel like that's what's going on now. And there's no turning back at this point.

Like, I don't know how to do it. Maybe you do. Maybe somebody else does. How do we get our families to pull back our kids? You know, I mean, we can do it. We can do it. It's a new kind of technological totalitarianism, isn't it? Where you can read people's minds, where you can control their minds and get them to assent to something.

And I guess when you use the Palantir analogy, Billy Ray, what you do is you do what Gandalf did to the hobbits. You jerk the kids off the thing and you throw a blanket over it and say stay away from this thing it's gonna be that simple maybe i don't know that's a good point you know it's it's um our kids are are gonna be it's gonna be second nature to them or it is already second it is we already are in a kind of metaverse in a sense right right and i i think my generation tony's generation was the last generation to see both sides you know to see how it was before and how it is now you know um and and you've been able to see that and everybody you know like uh my age or older have been able to see that yeah um but but i go back so far that

the the way people were manipulating us when i was a kid was just through television so simple you know right but it was very effective and you know it was a very effective propaganda tool but the technology has advanced so much that the weapons that they have now are far more powerful and as we were talking about that you know you're talking about Michael Flynn and all the garbage and the other the pseudo religion that is attached to that and this you know christian nationalism as they identify themselves you know that is really a satanic tactic it's what you were talking about earlier with the politics stuff where you got something that's true and they add a sensational false detail to it well that's essentially what satan does in religion right you

know didn't didn't god say this this? He didn't say that you couldn't do this. But add a little bit of details to it, and that's exactly what they're doing. And it is ultimately very satanic to add these kinds of lies to the truth, and that's the way these people operate. Right. And I think we were the target of it with the Cambridge Analytica. And Cambridge Analytica doesn't exist anymore, right? It's not a thing. Oh, really? They shut it down? I didn't know that. Yeah, it was shut down. I think they've regrouped. There's other companies out there that do the same thing now.

Well, they had to relabel it. They had to relabel it, at least. Right. Like Steve Bannon's still doing what he's doing, so it is what it is. And he was the guy that spearheaded that. But regardless, like with that, that's how the alternative media has been targeted, I think. And all the, you know, the build a wall, the lock her up, the Hillary Clinton hate. They harvested that, threw it at Donald Trump. And it was supposed to be Ted Cruz. Ted Cruz was supposed to be the guy. He wasn't half as charismatic. And Steve Bannon was like, we got

to go with Donald Trump. And they went with Donald Trump. And they gave him a script and he started talking to it, but he was talking to us. And they continue to talk to us. And we've followed this down the road where we're no longer really rational in thinking, It's emotional. And that was part of the psyop. You have to get people's emotions in it. That way they are fully invested. And when there is an attack on them and what they're saying, there is no room for rationale. It's all emotion. So you're all in.

And that's what's going on now. Yeah. Yeah. That's what they were able to play with Trump. You know, I remember when there was hope that Trump really meant what he said. You know, and again, you're always skeptical of these politicians or anybody who's running for office, but you know, he was somebody who came into it

and he'd been a businessman, he hadn't been a politician, so he didn't have a long career of manipulating and deceiving people necessarily. And so Julian Assange even said, well, we know that Hillary Clinton is a liar and a warmonger and a criminal. We'll have to wait and see about Trump. But we already know we're going to cross her off. And so that was kind of where I was as well.

But I had some hope for it, especially when I heard Steve Bannon start talking about the fourth turning. I thought, well, this guy really does understand the time that we're in, you know, and he seemed to be a serious guy. And I thought, well, maybe, you know, I don't really know what's going on with Trump. I get these mixed signals from him. Does he understand what's going on? Or is he just a front man, a buffoon for something like this?

But, you know, I thought, well, maybe Bannon is going to be able to bring this thing. He does understand the time that we're and he does understand the fourth turning but he doesn't seem to be using it um in the um the way that would be to our advantage does he he he completely understands it and that's that's the thing that's what makes him dangerous yeah the the guy is is next level he's a genius almost right if you want to call it an evil genius, call him whatever you want. But he totally understands it. The thing is, he's a traditionalist at heart.

And he believes in order out of chaos. You need to blow up the old world to get the new, to get it the way you want it to be. This is admitted. He believes this. These are things he's said, right? So he's creating the chaos. He's a chaos magician, for lack of a better term. He's creating this chaos or helping to create the chaos here in the United States. We're more divided than we've been in my lifetime. Look at what's going

on in Brazil. Same deal. He's trying to create that chaos, to blow up the system, to bring it back to what his version of traditionalist roots are almost like people uh liken him to alexander dugan very often because they have a lot of the same thinking they're both quote-unquote traditionalist also um but but they they differ in some ways but the goal is the same it's order out of chaos with these people so steve bannon is a very dangerous individual because he fully understands the fourth turning. He fully understands where we are right now. It's just his direction is different than ours. He wants to go in a different way. I agree. Yeah, we as individuals at the local level, we don't have the ability really to

impact these different institutions or to create new institutions because we are the grassroots. We have to operate from the grassroots up. And so we have to build this country back from the ground up. And I say back whether or not there is a collapse of these people trying to engineer, uh, the, the foundations and moral foundations, legal foundations of our country have been destroyed already. Uh, what they're trying to do is just to create physical economic destruction with war and other types of economic attacks and chaos.

And so we need to try to hold the line against that, but we also need to try to rebuild at the same time. And again, our strength is in numbers. Our strength is at the local level and they can't do anything unless they go to the local level. And so that's why we still do have things that we can do. And it's not a lost cause if we can start to rebuild communities from the bottom up, if we can get good people at the local level who can stand in the gap, who will be the people who are interposed against this tyranny from above. That's really where I think we are.

What do you think? What can we do of a concrete nature? I think all we can do right now is invest in our families and reach out to our neighbors and try to create a community of people that are aware and that are willing, right? And that recognize the problem. And if people don't recognize the problem, we need to try to educate them on that problem in an effort to bring people together. We are at a point where we need to build the base. We've been building this base for quite some time where we haven't been, we've been somewhat successful, but they keep coming up with more ways to manipulate. So we have to reinforce that base and we need to recognize our role in the grand scheme

of things as a generation. Right now, we need to build that base and solidify it and make it solid so our children and our children's children can push forward without having to worry about the base. We need to figure out a way where we can bring everybody together. So we got to start small. It's the best way I can look at it. We can look down the road and try to achieve the biggest goals. Please go do that. But I think what we need to do is start small and just reach out to our neighbors, educate our children, limit the amount of time that they're on social media, make people aware of the dangers of social media and the value of your freedom, your personal freedom and your freedom of your

mind to make people aware of that. Instill that in your children. That's right. Make them know the value of it rather than, and let them know that nothing is free. So if you're using a platform for free, you know, you're the product, you know that, David, that's the deal. That's right. Yeah. I've said for the longest time, I think what we need to unify on are our principles. And the core principle of that is going to be liberty, you know, from a political standpoint. What is going to advance the issue of liberty? And from our perspective, if we understand that the internet and these other things are like Palantir, that they seek to control us and to enslave us. What do we do to liberate ourselves?

We get away from those things. And we start to do things that are for real. And so for our kids, we want to try to focus on, you know, liberty means independence, right? And so we need to declare our independence from these things. And we need to start learning real physical skills because they want to keep us inside. It's just the story that I had early on the program about how the cops just swooped in on these parents because they let their kids go a couple of blocks down the, you

know, gave them $7 and said, here's a treat. You can go get Dunkin' Donuts and all the insanity that got unleashed on them by the police, by CPS and everything. Why? Because they want everybody inside watching your TV, focused on the internet, focused on the metaverse and the rest of the stuff. They don't want you connected to the real world. They don't want you to have any real skills.

If you don't have any skills in terms of being able to fix stuff, build stuff, grow food, you're going to be a slave. These people are going to take everything from you. So it's just that simple. You've got to go back to the basics as an individual to get your liberty. And Tony has kind of done that, which is incredible. I live in the belly of the beast.

I'm here in New York City. And I've been here all my life. I wouldn't know what the hell to do if I ever left here. But you make a valid point. I mean, while I love this city, I do. I love New York. I love the Bronx. I love where I'm from.

I realize that this is domestication, what's going on here in these cities. We've been domesticated. We are domesticated humans. And we are primed for slavery. That's right. A lot of, you know, I mean, this is economic slavery anyway. It's indentured servitude, in my opinion, what's going on regardless. But the enslavement will continue even more so. And if you're in the city,

it limits your options, right? Your food is controlled. Your water is controlled. Everything is controlled. Once they control your food and your water, they control you. And then they control your mind by what you do on social media and what you consume on television. You brought up television earlier. And I have the book. I haven't read it. I remember purchasing it. It said, Four Arguments Against Television. Came out way back when. And probably people were sitting there and saying, this guy who wrote this book is an extremist. He doesn't get it. He's paranoid. Right.

He's a paranoid conspiracy theorist. He was right. He saw the slippery slope. That's right. He saw where it went. And even something as benign as radio, it gives an opening for Twitter or for an Instagram.

That's how we've evolved. It's only going to get worse. You talk about the metaverse. I believe that people are going to be fully immersed in the metaverse because they're going to be able to do things in that avenue that they cannot do here in reality. That's right. You know, they're going to be able to be a totally different person.

Or a totally different creature. You want to identify as a cat or some imaginary creature, some mythological creature. Oh, you're there. Whatever you want to be, you can be that. That's what they're prepping everybody for. You talk about the cities, and the only thing we've done to prepare is to get into this area. Last year, we haven't been able to do anything to prepare yet, but we've got to focus on that this year.

But even going back to Jefferson, his time, when the cities were nothing. A city was less than a suburb is today. But, uh, Jefferson said cities are a threat to the health, the wealth, and the liberty of mankind. Why? Because you are, you know, packed into a close area and you start to become dependent instead of in his day. You know, if you were out in the rural area, you were on your own, you really were. And, uh, so in that agrarian society, people had to solve the problems on their own. They had to be self-sufficient as of necessity. So just coming together in a higher population density, that allowed you to kind of, you know, atrophy in some of your skills that you really do need to have to

be independent. No, I agree with you. I watch a show called Life Below Zero, where people go up to Alaska and live there because it's just like you said, they are on their own, right? Nobody's bothering them. They do what they do. Of course, they have to, you know, take on the elements up there, right? And it's super cold, but they are free. Yeah. You know, as free as you can be on this planet right now. That's right. Is what they are. We sacrifice freedom for convenience.

And comfort. You know, is what we do. And increasingly, technology gives us the crutch of convenience. It gives us more convenience and more convenience, taking us away from our own, right? From what God has given us, you know, like, and I feel like we need to return to that, return to what, how God intended things to be and rely on ourselves more than on this technology. Because the more we rely on these, and I don't want to sound like a puritanical, I don't know, like a pilgrim or something.

It does weaken you, though. It's a double-edged sword, David. Yeah, yeah. If I sit here all day and I'm just sitting at the desk and everything, I start to atrophy physically. There's been articles that came out that said, hey, it'll actually sharpen your mind if instead of using the map program on your phone, if you use a real physical map, assuming you can find one anymore, you know, try to navigate that way and think. And when I saw that article, I was telling Karen, I said, you know, when I was between high school and college, I went with a music group to Europe for a couple of weeks. You know, we went to a lot of different places, and there with a music group to Europe for a couple of weeks. We went to a lot of different

places and there was a tour director there. And she would get the whole group out. We'd leave the bus and we'd go somewhere. And she'd go, where's the bus? Was it over there? No, no, it's not that way. It's over this way. And we kept correcting. She kept getting lost. And she said, I've seen this with Americans. Americans always know where they are, and they know how to get back to the bus. I said, well, you know, it may be because we're driving cars and things like that. You pay attention to where you are and your surroundings, whereas just having that, even something like a map that is helping you to navigate, as convenient as that is, you just start turning off your facilities, and you start to atrophy with that.

And just so many different areas that we have, that the technology has made us weaker and dumbed us down. You know, we can get that back. We don't have to stay just like you can recover the physical muscles that have atrophied because you're sitting around all the time. You can get that kind of stuff back and we need to start thinking about that. You know, it reminds me a little bit of, of you will own nothing and like, right. And that was right when you brought that in. And that was an article that was written for, from this, this lady, I think she was from Iceland. I forget, I forget her name, but it was for,

for the world economic forum. And, Forum. And if you read the article, it talks about how you literally own nothing, but it's all like technologically based, right? You will own nothing, but you will need nothing, right? If you want a car, you just call one, almost like an Uber, but of course it'll be driverless, right? And you get in it and it'll take you where you need to go and that's it. You don't own a home. You stay there and then you go do whatever you do when your home is used for meetings or something

else. Somebody else comes in and uses it because nobody owns anything. Everybody has access to everything. And the way they plan on pulling this off is via technology. Like if you need pots to cook, you just say, say oh i need pots and boom there go the pots yeah right this is the imaginary world that she thought of that's supposed to communism it's communism you don't own anything everything is in common you know and we got it we will supply it for you it's also it's high high tech communism go ahead it is yeah neo-marxist is what george gilder calls him and it reminds me of um uh you of Christ and the devil shows him all the different – all this will be yours if you just sit down and worship me, right?

That's what we're told. It's like, hey, you just make Klaus Schwab the king of your life or Tedros or whoever it is. You just let these people take charge of your life, and they'll keep you comfortable. That's the lie. That's the lie. That's the promise. And of course, you know, they're putting that out. Even during this Davos meeting that they had a couple of weeks ago, you had Ukraine put together their Ukraine 2030. 2030 is always the date, isn't it?

Right? So 2030, because that's the end of the fourth turning and Strauss and Howe said that back in the early nineties. But, you know, they've got their utopia and just like you said Billy everything is just right on your phone it's so convenient you can interact with the government you can get your permission and your licenses and your privileges granted by the government right through that thing and of course you know the other thing is they can deny all that stuff to you as well right right and and you're gonna need licenses for everything not that you don't know already you know and right right and and you're gonna need licenses for everything not

that you don't know already you know and uh so and you have to be completely registered and and fully transparent with your life no reasonable expectation of privacy right um when it comes to to you know interacting i think you know in order to get into a city you're gonna have to give everything up they're gonna have these this is just me speculating but they're gonna have these bubble cities and you're gonna have to be vaccinated and you're going to have to give everything up. They're going to have these, this is just me speculating, but they're going to have these bubble cities and you're going to have to be vaccinated and you're going to have to give up all your details, right? All your DNA and everything in order to get in and live in these areas. And people want to live in cities because it's popularized and it's glamorized. It's made to be this thing that everybody should strive for, right? New York City is the everybody should strive for, right?

New York City is the capital of the world, right? Everybody wants to live here. Everybody wants to live in big cities like Berlin, you know, or Paris, right? It's just where you need to be as a civilized human. But, you know, you stop and think about it. What is it that's interesting about the big cities like that, right? You look at, you know, Berlin or Paris or whatever. It's going to be the museums or it's going to be the concert venues or something. But in each of these places, there are very special places in these big cities that are there that people go to see.

I want to go see the Eiffel Tower. I want to go see the Louvre or whatever. But their plan is to keep you in 15-minute villages. You're not going to be moving around even inside those cities. I mean, what's going to be the point of that? And it's going to dump everything down to the least common denominator because you're going to have one vendor who's going to be supplying all of this type of store to everybody, right?

You're going to have essentially the big box equivalents of the grocery stores and pharmaceutical things. And the other thing that's amazing to me, Billy, is you look at these plans for the, and it can be a five minute city, 10 minute, 15, 20 minutes. So they varied between those things. But when they talk about it, when the group C40 talks about it and these other, the first thing they mention in terms of access, every time they talk, it's a pharmacy. It's always first or second thing they talk about. It's like pharmacy. When did a pharmacy become the center of my life well it's over the last couple of years right well everybody's medicated now yeah exactly everybody and and

that's another part of this it's dependency uh on uh on the medical and on the medical industrial complex you know um and and that's another part of the propaganda. It's another part of the indoctrination. If you tune in to any show on Fox or on CNN, all you see is pharmaceuticals advertising again and again and again, because everyone is sick. Yeah. Brought to you by Pfizer. Right. Brought to you by Pfizer. Right. You know, everyone is sick, you know, especially here in the South Bronx. Right. We're one of the unhealthiest counties in the nation. You know, maybe the unhealthiest. Right. Diabetes is all

over the place. A high blood pressure. The whole deal. Cancer. Right. There are reasons for that. Right. But they want to keep us. And by they, I mean, the powers that be. I feel that they want to keep us in the state of unhealth, of being as unhealthy as possible in order to stay reliant on this system rather than provide real solutions. And I'm not saying that the doctors and the nurses in hospitals don't mean well, because they absolutely do. But they're dealing with the cards that they've been dealt. Well, what we saw in this pandemic was you had doctors and nurses and everything who were being intimidated by the big corporations that own so many hospitals and the bean counters who are running the hospitals. The accountants were telling them, the accountants were calling the shots.

The accountants were saying, you can't do this, you can't do that. And if you do that, if you actually practice medicine, we're going to kick you out. And so, you know, it was another form of this coercion that we've been through for the last thousand plus days. And people were not allowed to practice medicine. It was just that simple. Right. Yeah.

And also not taking into account alternative cures for things, and we call them alternatives, but in all actuality, they are God's cures, you know, God's plants that they've placed here that most of these pharmaceutical products are based on anyway, you know, but they- They mimic them, just like aspirin, you know, it's willow bark, right? Exactly. So you mimic it and you patent it and then you make a tiny change and repatent it again and keep going yeah and and you make more money and but these are band-aids they're not cures they're band-aid they will they will allow you to manage whatever situation you're in whatever disease you have you can manage manage it. You cannot cure it.

You cannot get rid of it. And I think that's part of the problem. So this is the full spectrum dominance. That's the attack on all sides, sovereignty of the mind and sovereignty of the body. These things don't exist anymore. And as time goes on, we're losing more and more and more of it. And it's a problem. We need to recognize that and push back against those who are agents of it, whether they know it or not. Yes, that's true. And try to educate our own, get close to nature, get close to God, figure it out that way. Well, you know, if free speech wasn't so key to everything, they wouldn't be working so hard to try to shut it down. Right.

That's an encouragement to us that we're on the right track because they hate what we're doing and they work so hard to shut it down. If it was non-consequential, they wouldn't bother with it. You know, I look at a lot of people who have very big followings, you know, Crowder and others, you know, who have big followings on YouTube. It's because they don't talk about anything of any consequence. And so, you know, the system basically leaves them alone. Daily Wire, a good example of that as well. But before we run out of time, a couple of people left some comments,

and I want to feed one of them directly to you. Angus Mustang, thank you for the tip. He says, Billy and the Infinite Fringe is the first podcast I had listened to, which got me involved in the alt media. So thank you, Billy. Well, that's from Angus Mustang. So thank you, buddy. Appreciate you, man.

Yes. And geesebusters, geesebusters. He leaves a tip and he says on rock fan, he says, I wish Trump would hide under a rock with the rest of the other slimy creatures. I'm so sick of this baby killing traitor. Yeah. Um, I say, uh, yeah, that's on rumble, not on rock fan, but I'm out of misspoke, but, uh, yeah, good to see you there. Geesebusters. Glad you found it's on rumble not on rock fan but i'm out of misspoke but uh yeah good to see

you there geesebusters glad you found it over to rumble as well so yeah i'm not really sure what we're going to do on rumble but it's it's worked great for you guys and america unplugged is there you'll find uh tony there as well uh as part of the america unplugged um and don jeffries billy ray valentine tony arderburn and the infinite fringe and you're you say you're on Don Jeffries, Billy Ray Valentine, Tony Arterburn, and The Infinite Fringe. And you say you're on Apple Podcasts and on Podbean? Yeah, you can find The Infinite Fringe on Apple Podcasts, on Podbean, and America Unplugged right here on Rockfin, 12 p.m. Eastern, every Saturday. That's great.

So we have a couple of minutes left. Anything else that you want to throw in there to the listeners? Any other concerns that you're talking about? We kind of covered the big picture here. Anything else on your mind and even a small picture? No, that's it, David. We need you, for one, and we need people like you. We need to stay on the right track, and we need to figure out that we're being attacked on all sides.

And once we figure that out, we'll be a lot better off and, and we need to follow the truth. We need to go down and try to follow the truth, whatever that is, and realize that we may not get the truth, but we need to be honest in our pursuit of it. That's right. You know, we have to try and we have to be, have, have integrity with that. And that's why I wanted to get you on, uh know you and tony and don jeffries and guard uh guard goldsmith and um you know the guys they're doing nights of the storm it's real important for us to um everybody's trying as hard as they can to discover where the

truth is trying to get that out to people trying to counter this plan that is in place and we all need to really stick together and to support each other so i hope the listeners uh pay attention that uh you know uh again billy ray valentine infinite fringe uh america unplugged uh guard goldsmith uh liberty conspiracy as well as his sub stack and other things it's great talking to you billy appreciate it it's always good to talk to you it's an honor to be on sorry about all the technical difficulties. That's no problem. It happens. We'll get a clean edit of the interview, and we'll put that out in video and on a podcast.

Appreciate you, David. We'll get that to you. Appreciate you and everything you do. And Karen and Travis, thank you very much for all your help. Everybody listening, God bless you guys. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Thank you, Billy.

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