The David Knight Show - INTERVIEW Libraries vs God, Family & Country

Episode Date: June 28, 2023

After Trent Talbot became a Christian and a father, he left his practice as an ophthalmologist to create a children's book company, BraveBooks.com. His vision was to take the high ground, transcend th...e culture, and teach traditional faith based values while having fun with positive stories for a young audience. The American Library Association, while celebrating Drag Queen Story Hours, has opposed Kirk Cameron & Brave Books events at libraries. Who is this organization and will they be able to stop "See You at the Library" coming 5Aug23.Find out more about the show and where you can watch it at TheDavidKnightShow.comIf you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-showOr you can send a donation throughMail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @DavidKnightShow@protonmail.comCash App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Money is only what YOU hold: Go to DavidKnight.gold for great deals on physical gold/silverFor 10% off Gerald Celente's prescient Trends Journal, go to TrendsJournal.com and enter the code KNIGHTBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.

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Starting point is 00:00:25 No, we bet more power to you. T's and C's apply 18 plus bet responsibly gambling care. Dot E Joining us now is Trent Talbot. And I'm real excited to talk to him. I really admire what he's doing. He is the president and founder of brave books. And if you listen to their, here's their
Starting point is 00:00:46 mission statement, honoring God by shaping a future generation of Americans who will fight for a nation defined by freedom, truth, humility, bravery, and compassion, helping parents instill a love of truth in their children so that the children will withstand harmful progressive influences. Trent is somebody who was a practicing ophthalmologist. And because of his convictions, he stopped that and started this book company. And this is the book company you've seen. And we've talked about Kirk Cameron going around having these library events. And there's some updates about that. There's a major event that is coming up on August the 5th.
Starting point is 00:01:23 And there's a major pushback by the American Library Association. And I said when I talked about what Kurt Cameron was doing with his book, I said it's necessary for us to have a positive vision for our children and for their future. It's not enough just to oppose evil. We've got to have a positive vision of what we want there. And that's really what Trent is doing with Brave Books. Uh, brave books.com is the website where you can find this. And we're going to talk about the other books that he's got as well. Uh, Kurt's, uh,
Starting point is 00:01:49 got that one book that he started taking around and he's got a second book that is coming out. And, uh, but there's a lot of books that he has at the site and they actually even have a monthly book club that you can sign up for. So we're going to talk about all that stuff coming up. Uh,
Starting point is 00:02:03 so, uh, welcome Trent. Great to have you on. I really do admire what you're doing. Yeah, thanks for having me, David. Really appreciate it. Tell us a little bit about, fill in with people, the Kirk Cameron story.
Starting point is 00:02:14 I know it started just one place and he had some issues with that. They actually had all kinds of opposition from the librarians who do not want to have these types of books where they scream bloody murder if you take out a pornographic book directed to kids but they don't want to have a book about positive character and positive christian values and that type of thing so tell us a bit about uh kirk and and how this all came about with this library project yeah so kirk's book as you grow which is a kid's book on teaching biblical wisdom and the fruit of the spirit um it it launched in december of 2022 and we were chatting with kirk about all right how are we going to get the word on this book and and you know kirk's kirk's got a heart for for for communities that don't know the Lord.
Starting point is 00:03:07 And so he was like, well, you know, drag queen story hours are a big thing. What if we reached out to libraries and we went into those communities that are being exposed to things like drag queen story hours? And we did a book reading, you know, talking about my book on the local wisdom. And so it was like, right great idea so we found 54 libraries that have sponsored drag queen story i was this is the difference between hosting and sponsoring sponsoring means that you the library actively endorses it they pay the drag queens to come they pay to promote it they really get the word out um we didn't ask for that. We figured that they definitely wouldn't sponsor us,
Starting point is 00:03:51 but we just, so we reached out to 54 libraries asking to reserve space. And in some instances, we'd have to pay for the space and we were happy to do that. And every single one turned them down. They turned us down, which was shocking. I, we were not expecting that to happen. And so we let the press know and it became a big national story. Kirk eventually threatened lawsuit with First Liberty Institute because his free speech was
Starting point is 00:04:20 being violated. And they started to back down and he started this, uh, what we call the brave book story hour tour, where we're going around from city to city hosting, uh, hosting story hours and, and it's, it sort of became this big thing, but, um, well, yeah. And, and in August we're doing, we're doing a new take on see you at the poll, you know, see if the poll is the popular annual event where kids around the country would go gather at the flagpole and pray.
Starting point is 00:04:52 We had this idea of encouraging families across the country to go host their own story hours at their local libraries. That's going to be the culmination of the whole library dramas on august the 5th well it seems like this i was surprised that it was as recent as december 2022 because there's been so many different incidents uh with this uh you know in terms of resistance that they've put up i remember there was a promotion that you guys were going to film in one library and these people were making everything they could to disrupt you you know making all kinds of noise and other issues like that it truly is amazing to see how as these
Starting point is 00:05:32 people say well we embrace um you know uh books of all types and and we want to have freedom of speech and all the rest of the stuff but they don't uh they have a very narrow uh view of what they want out there they have an agenda and if you're not very narrow view of what they want out there. They have an agenda. And if you're not part of that agenda, boy, they want to eradicate you in the worst way. And that's the amazing thing to see happening now in the American Library Association. These are the people, and it's taxpayer funded, the American Library Association. Tell us a little bit about that and what is going on with the American Library Association, how they're pushing back against this event that you've got coming up on August the 5th.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Yeah, so we started to get feedback from families across the country that were trying to host their own story hours on August the 5th at their local libraries. And they started to say, hey, my library is saying that there's no space the that all of the rooms are booked up and we're like typically because typically that doesn't happen like two months in advance that's just from what we've dealt with libraries a lot very rarely are they booked up two months in advance but everybody was saying that and then and then so we did some digging and we found that the director of the ala intellectual freedom um i think that's her title, Deborah Caldwell Stone, gave a speech to basically all the libraries across the country in their virtual annual meeting
Starting point is 00:06:54 and said, basically gave libraries a guidebook on how to block the August 5th, see you at the library event and they said all right so you can change you can change your policies to where they have to have a library card and just there's a bunch of ways to make it difficult or if you would you could say that the rooms are already taken and you can you can you can basically just go and book events that you put on today for uh book them for August the 5th and so you know you and book events that you put on today for, uh, booked it for August the 5th. And so, you know, you, and then, and then you have, you have the, uh,
Starting point is 00:07:30 the benefit of saying that there's no room in the end. Wow. How did you guys find that out? Uh, that they were doing this? Was it an open meeting that, uh, somebody recorded and gave to you or. No, it was sort of a whistleblower. She, she, she, she, this woman snuck into the meeting recorded it all and then sent it to us that's good so yeah the uh intellectual freedom person was doing this let's shut down alternative viewpoints we don't want to have them there and yeah and her reasoning was that you know because they believe in diversity so of course you guys we would believe in diversity that means that only our opinion you guys just tell them. We believe in diversity.
Starting point is 00:08:06 That means that only our opinion is going to go out there. I think they need to change their name from the American Library Association to the Fahrenheit 451 Library Association. Yeah. They don't want to see any opinions out there at all. So where is this standing right now? I mean, if they say that they're going to play this game and say that it's uh booked and they've got it booked with a phony reservation i mean what is there
Starting point is 00:08:29 if anything that you can do about it or uh have you guys got a strategy about this yeah we've got a strategy we're we're going to sort of let let this story get out and then but yeah next week i think we're going to play our next card um Yeah. We'll see some news reports about that. Let me know when you release that. Send me a press release on it. Let's talk a little bit about the book, As You Grow, that Kirk Cameron did. Tell us a little bit about that. You said it's Christian values, but can you give us a bit more information about it than that?
Starting point is 00:09:02 Yeah. So, well, what we're doing at brave is a little unique we're not doing all of our books can stand alone but but they're they're all part of what we call the freedom island book club and and every story takes place in freedom island with our cast of characters and it's part of an overarching saga so so this i this, I don't know if this is going to be video, but yeah, yeah, we got it. Yeah, cool. Well, I'll show you, this Freedom Island. And as you grow is about Skytree. It starts as an acorn, just as all trees do, and then grows from a little tiny tree into the biggest tree on Freedom Island. And it undergoes different seasons. It undergoes challenges., it's sort of a classic, it's a classic style children's book, um, that, that, that, that teach that talks about the different seasons of life, the fruits of the spirit. And, um, and yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:18 So it, it, it's a metaphor for growing up and, and, and how things are going to change throughout your life as told by that tree but that's just kind of the beginning of this bigger universe that you've got of all different types of stories that are going to touch on different types of issues for the kids also a bit about some of the other ones yeah so uh well our first book is called elephants are not birds and it it covers the topic of gender reality, where there's Kevin the elephant. He comes across this vulture named Culture, and Culture tries to convince Kevin that he's a bird because Kevin loves to sing.
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Starting point is 00:11:21 I declare this a most generous offering. NoviBet bet more power to you t's and c's apply 18 plus bet responsibly gamblingcare.ie kevin eventually culture gives him a beak and some wings and kevin tries to become a bird for a while has a really hard go of it fall he tries to fly and it doesn't go so well um but eventually but eventually kevin saves the day whenever he sort of embraces his his inner elephantness and puts out a fire um and sort of saves the town and then he realizes you know he's he he's perfect the way that he was he was uh made and so so that's a that's a popular book little lives matters on the sanctity of life it's where you've got the island of free ice cream that covers sort of the dangers of communism and and yeah so every book teaches
Starting point is 00:12:11 a really traditional value pro-god pro-american value um some some are political we've covered the the freedom of speech second amendment um but a lot of them are really just wholesome traditional values that that that that build build their character so our i think we have to be deliberate about it and that's the key thing you know we've been very passive about uh you know even creating any entertainment or creating any kind of books like you're talking about we've let other people do it. And that's how we have gotten in the situation that we're in right now. These other people create this entertainment and it was fine when I was growing up.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Like I said earlier in the program, you had Disney creating stuff like Johnny Tremaine and Davy Crockett and things like that. But, uh, and embodying the kinds of traditional values that are going to be good for kids, good for families, good for cultures and societies. But now it's become very destructive. And we've just kind of taken a backseat and passively watched what other people are producing. Because in many cases, you know, the movies, they've gotten so technically proficient that it's turned into eye candy. So we just kind of passively sat there. But I think what you're doing is very important.
Starting point is 00:13:25 You've got to deliberately portray these values for the kids. Yeah. Yeah. Our prayer is that we just think there needs to be a brand that parents can trust with their children's imaginations to not only enthrall them, but build their character while doing so. And so our strategy is, you know, kids love a world. They love the idea of world building, and they love seeing storylines and and characters progress so so that that's what we did we we built this world freedom island we built like the cast of characters team
Starting point is 00:14:12 brave the good guys villains like culture the vulture blackheart all these really fun fun characters and then just um have some really great stories and and so so our first priority whenever we're making any making any book and this will be the case whenever the anime television shows come and and all that it's we want to we want it to be just top-notch entertainment because we want we want to grab we want it to be gripping for the kids for them to absolutely fall in love with it but then while while they're being entertained you know we we we communicate these these lessons that build their character as opposed to leave them confused and demoralized which is which is basically the status quo out
Starting point is 00:14:58 there right now that's right yeah it is very a powerful thing to be able to do that in entertainment. And people are kind of disarmed with that, and so they're open to both good and bad as it's being portrayed in that. I think about if you tell somebody something in the form of a documentary, that can be powerful and can be more powerful than if you write, from my perspective, if I were to write an op-ed piece or something, if I were to do some kind of a mini documentary to make it visual for people, that gets it across to more people.
Starting point is 00:15:33 If you do something that is a work of fiction, like a drama, that becomes even more powerful for people. And so I think that's an important progression. It sounds like you're going to be going in that direction as well. But we need to understand that kids are like sponges, and they pick this stuff up. And, of course, Disney understands that. That is the key issue.
Starting point is 00:15:54 And they don't even really care whether they're going to make money. They've lost a billion dollars on these last eight movies, but they continue to go down this path because they're on a mission. But you're on a mission in a different way. Aren't you? Tell us a little bit about that, that transition. And, uh, as you were an ophthalmologist and you decided that you wanted to do something positive. Yeah. So I was, um, happily practicing ophthalmologist, uh, and I was saved in early 2019. And then, um, so that changed my life completely right after I was saved in early 2019. And then, so that changed my life completely.
Starting point is 00:16:28 Right after I was saved, I met the woman who's now my wife. And we got married very quickly after that. And then a year later, we had our first daughter in the summer of 2020. And so when she was born, it's sort of like whenever you get a new car, you start to notice that car everywhere on the road because it's increased in your level of awareness. I had no idea that there was this war for our kids' hearts and minds. It's just something I never paid attention to. But after she was born, I started to see this war everywhere. You walk into Barnes & Noble, the first thing you see is the genderqueer stuff you're targeted for kids you see it
Starting point is 00:17:06 on netflix and nickelodeon anyway i was seeing it everywhere and it just it stuck with me i for whatever reason i couldn't get it out of my head as far as like i thought it was just so wrong and and slowly you know enough sort of sleepless nights thinking about it this idea for brave books and freedom island started to crystallize in my mind and and and then the draw of how fun that would be to go on this journey started to outweigh the risk because it was a big risk you know you went with newly married baby. And you got a lot of time and money and training involved in being an ophthalmologist. That's very serious.
Starting point is 00:17:55 And, you know, of course, that's a full MD. That's not an optician. That's a full MD. And, you know, so that's a medical school plus a specialty and all the rest of the stuff. And you're just going to leave that because of the way God's changed your life. That's really amazing. That really is. He's working very fast in your life. You may wind up being the biggest tree on the island.
Starting point is 00:18:16 I certainly hope that that is going to be the case with Brave Books and entertainment for kids. Well, yeah. The Lord's definitely done a lot in my life for sure but he's also done a lot for for brave books um we you know i didn't know what i was doing you know whenever we started brave books i didn't know how to make a good story i didn't know how to i didn't know anything i didn't know how to do make an e-com store because you know yeah we wanted to do the subscription which means we couldn't sell books through Amazon. We had to do it through our own store and fulfill our own books. And so there's a lot of stuff that I didn't know how to do, but the Lord just
Starting point is 00:18:52 every single step along the way found the perfect person to bring into the team. And it just, it's been, it's been incredible. How'd you get connected with kirk cameron um we we we wanted to do a book very bad with kirk camera because we just think he he stands for everything our brand believes in you know he's he's christian first and but he's not afraid to to talk about what he thinks politically and and so so to us it was a perfect fit and just sent enough emails to enough people and finally got a hold of his um i guess his his manager his assistant and then connected us and and gave kirk the vision and you know we were really small back then whenever we first had talked to kirk and but he he believed in what we were doing and, and took
Starting point is 00:19:45 a chance on us. And it's, it's been a great, it's been a great partnership. Yeah, that's great. It really has worked out well. And you've gotten a lot of press and deservedly so. And I think when you look at this and you see this as rapidly as it is advancing, as you point out, you go into the Barnes and Noble or whatever, you see all these books trying to groom the kids. I think it's probably the best way to approach this, but it is really
Starting point is 00:20:10 a spiritual war, a mental war, taking every thought captive. And that's really where you are right now. You're really at the front line of this with the kids. I know how when I was a kid, it was such a big deal for me. It's very exciting when they would have the bookmobile come by to the store and we would have the book of the month club. And I think it's great that you're setting this up as like a monthly thing. It really gives the kids something to look forward to. And of course, you've got the bigger pictures. You point out these things are all being put together
Starting point is 00:20:41 to create a larger world for these kids. What is the age group that you're really targeting this for? It sounds like they're kind of early elementary school. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, right now we're doing picture books. So that's,
Starting point is 00:20:54 that's in that four to nine range. You know, it's probably ideal. Our vision is for the next 50 to a hundred years when Christian conservative parents or grandparents when their kids or grandkids hit three years old three to four they start their subscription and they get a picture book every single month for the next four plus years like four it'll be 50 books four years in two months and kids love getting stuff in the mail especially on a monthly basis and yeah yeah anyway they love it and so but you
Starting point is 00:21:27 know they're going to outgrow the picture books you know when they hit about eight nine and so the subscription will change to two chapter books a month and but they keep growing in the in this in this world that we've built with the characters and the topics sort of age with the kids you know so once you get into the chapter books you may start topics sort of age with the kids you know so once you get into the chapter books you may start to hit some of those heavier topics you know that aren't really appropriate for for kids or um anyway yeah and and and by the by the time that that they're done with picture books chapter books potentially some middle grade, young adult novels, and then live action, animated television. They'll have grown up in this world where every single thing that we put out
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Starting point is 00:22:42 I declare this a most generous offering. NoviBet. more power to you t's and c's apply 18 plus bet responsibly gamblingcare.ie you know about good morality good character and yeah we're we're excited that's really something that's very needed i i know my son who's uh producing my show here uh we got started with him with some books that were for older kids and written back in the Victorian England time. G.A. Hinty was the author. And he would do these historical books, and my son loved history. And each one of them would kind of follow a pattern. You'd have some young man who was a central character, a protagonist, and he would be in some kind of historical situation. It could be a lot of them were battles that we didn't know anything about
Starting point is 00:23:31 that people in Victorian England would have known about. But then there were other things that were pretty well known. One of them was about the battle of the Romans versus the Jews in terms of destroying the temple. It's called for the temple. And so that got him, I started out reading that stuff to him and he learned to read, uh, reading those and then went through all of them himself. And that's the key thing.
Starting point is 00:23:53 It's like an adventure. And one of the things that I really liked about those books, which I think you're doing in yours as well, is the characters, uh, the character of the characters. And even the bad guys, even the villains, had a better character than you usually see in heroes today in the books.
Starting point is 00:24:11 We got to the point where Disney just wants to do villain stories now, because that's a lot more interesting to them. And they like to put a dark angle on the protagonist, but it was very different going back into Victorian England. They had even the guys who were, again, they have initiated a war with somebody and they're attacking them. But they had a code of honor that you would see in the book. And that's the type of stuff that I grew up with, the type of stuff that I try to get my kids to grow up with, and I think that's something that is really needed.
Starting point is 00:24:48 You have to model those things for the kids. They have to be shown how that works. You can't just tell them. That's not powerful enough. They have to see it acted out in a work of fiction or something like that in order to be able to really grab those values. That's what I think is really important about what you're doing. Well, thank you're doing. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Yeah. They need to, they need to see it in art and they need to see it at home, you know? And that's right. And so, you know, I, I can, I can write as many good, good books that build their character as possible. But, but if they're not seeing it, if they're not seeing, you know, good morality, good, you know, good relationships between moms and dads at home, you know, then, then, then these books probably won't, won't, won't be as,
Starting point is 00:25:37 they won't have, have a strong effect as if it was otherwise. So, so, you know, I, I'm a big believer that change doesn't start in the white house. It starts in our house. And, and, you know, as parents, we, we need to, we need to always be, be thinking, you know, how, how, how are my children going to take, you know, what, what I just said to my wife or how I, how I treated them and just always try to try to be modeling great behavior. It's a challenge. I fall short a lot.
Starting point is 00:26:08 That's right. Yeah. It's a, that is the challenge. And it's part of the growth, uh, uh, for us as adults, I think to have kids that are looking at us and looking up to us, that makes a change in the way that we interact the way we see ourselves as well. And we want to do the best to model that for them. Now, Freedom Island Book Club, the monthly subscription thing,
Starting point is 00:26:29 that is, is that there now or is that, I know it's going to be growing, but it's already there now at this point, right? Yeah. You know, we've got a, my creative team has a tough job. They have to write a new book every single month to make sure that our, make sure our subscribers get their book every month. And yeah, but no, it's, it's there. You can go to brave books.com. And if you sign up today, you get Kirk Cameron's latest book, pride comes before the fall for free.
Starting point is 00:26:57 And tell us a little bit about that. Cause this is pride month. Pride comes before the fall comes in Juneune right uh right what is that book about so it's uh it's actually not about the lgbt boom and it really is just talking about the dangers of pride so one of our characters gets a little prideful about his athletic ability and ends up um ends up sort of making a fool of himself lashing out in anger and um, ends up sort of making a fool of himself, lashing out in anger and, um, and ends up learning the lesson that it's much better to be humble and put others first, as opposed to puff yourself up, self up and be self-focused. Um, yeah, it, it, it's a great book.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Kirk, Kirk really did a great job with that book. I think really know the lesson, um, for, for our kids. Yeah. It surprises me. You know, I understand that, uh, it's good to have accomplishments and, and you can take, uh, as we say, pride in the accomplishment, but, uh, the center pride, uh, when you start thinking about yourself and elevating yourself, that's something God has always condemned and punished severely.
Starting point is 00:28:03 And so it always kind of surprised me to see them having a month of pride, you know, and pride in what pride in, in, uh, in what God condemns, uh, which I thought was always a kind of a strange thing, but you've got other authors besides Kurt Cameron. Tell us a little bit about some of the authors, other authors that we might know. Yeah. Missy Robertson of Doug dynasty. She wrote a book on the importance of family um did a book with bethany hamilton on uh overcoming fear so she's she's the the woman
Starting point is 00:28:34 whose arm got bit off by a shark and ended up continuing the surfer the surfer who was okay yes sir and and and she ended up winning uh the national championship you know a few years later uh so her story is incredible and yeah um but yeah i mean at this point we've done 24 books so over 20 authors um some some really really great people that those are the ones that that stick out you know top of of mind. Uh, you got Dinesh D'Souza and, uh, I guess his wife, uh, what did they write a book about? They wrote a book about socialism and, and the importance of, of the free market.
Starting point is 00:29:15 Cool. Uh, yeah, that, that's, uh, that was a great book as well. And you got, uh, the lady who does, uh, libs of Tik TOK. Uh, what was her book about? So that was a book. It was called No More Secrets, The Candy Cavern. And it was about, it was sort of a take on Little Red Riding Hood and the Big Bad Wolf, where this wolf in sheep's clothing tries to get all the kids to eat candy all semester and he fattens them up um and and he he tells them don't tell your parents don't tell your parents and then you know he he tries
Starting point is 00:29:56 to eat them eat them all but she ends up telling her parents and parents save the day. So yeah, it's sort of like an anti grooming, you know, just teach, teaches kids the lessons of not keeping secrets from your parents. And if anybody tells you to keep a secret from your parents, you definitely need to tell your parents. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:17 That's absolutely true. John Solomon, you got a book by John Solomon, who's an investigative journalist. What did he write about? Yeah. He wrote a book called hidden headlineslines that's on the importance or, yeah, the harmful effects of censorship and the importance of free speech. And it's a fun little mystery style book.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Oh, that's interesting. Yeah, it sounds like you've got a real wide variety of things. I like the idea that you've got a monthly book of the month club. And of the month club, and then of course this whole thing going on back and forth with the American library association, I think one of the things that people need to understand about that is that, uh, it gets federal funding, doesn't it? Uh, what, tell us a little bit about that and, and its connection to the federal government and the amount of money that it gets, I mean, it gets quite a bit of money, doesn't it?
Starting point is 00:31:05 Yeah. It gets over $200 million a year. Um, wow. Really? I mean, they don't do that much. It's not like that money goes to all the libraries, the libraries get their own funding. It's just, you know, it's just a bunch of bureaucrats and, and ideologues at this point, it's another institution that's been captured um and yeah they they do not like brave books we've given them a lot of headaches so so i guess it's understandable but but it's really not because they they have a duty you know to to help the libraries you'll be a
Starting point is 00:31:42 resource for all american citizens and and for whatever reason, a lot of our government institutions have just viewed Christians as the enemy. And anybody who doesn't go along with this woke progressive agenda as enemies that need to be silenced. And it's really unfortunate, but we, we felt that we didn't want to sit back and just take it. You know, we wanted to bring awareness to another institution that's been captured and, and then we've got some things up our sleeve that, that we hope can, can change the ALA for the better. And, you know, there's really, isn't even a reason for the ALA.
Starting point is 00:32:25 It's another one of these examples of creating this overarching bureaucracy, massively funding it so that it can influence the people who are actually doing the real work at the local level. You know, de Tocqueville talked about democracy in America. He said, yeah, if the people need a library, something, just come together. They need a volunteer fire department. You know, if they need a fire department, they all volunteer and they create one or they create a library, that type of thing. That's the way it used to always be.
Starting point is 00:32:51 But now, by the unlimited amounts of money that the federal government has, it can take over these institutions from the top down. And that's just another example of this type of corruption. But it's something that is very much a communist tactic this march through the institutions and it and it's very much tied into people like pete booty gay that his father who was studied the the life of antonio gramsey the italian marxist came up with that strategy he said this is the way we're going to win in modern society we're going to win in modern society. We're going to take over all the institutions.
Starting point is 00:33:26 And that's what we see happening. And it's typically done with massive amounts of federal funding, either taking over, creating new institutions that can then bribe people. I think that's a big part of the problem, even with the Department of Education, but certainly with the American Library Association. I think most people did not have that on their radar to understand what was really happening and and how much they can control if they control what people see read and think that's the key thing about all these totalitarian agendas isn't it yeah i think it's a great point and i i think that we do have to fight the corruption of our institutions but i also think that we need to build our own
Starting point is 00:34:05 institutions and and that's what i'm not seeing enough of from the christians and the conservatives um just not enough creativity boldness and gusto to go build new things. You know, there's so many things that we could be building right now. Um, you know, we, we could, we could build our own schools, you know, our own school systems. Uh, there's such a need for that. And, and it just, the list goes on and on and, and, you know, what happened in the last couple of years and the people, you know, I think what happened in the last couple of years, people, you know, and the way the hospitals have now been taken over by a few very large corporations and look at how ruthless they were in terms of their health care. You know, hospitals were originally a Christian thing.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Schools were originally a Christian thing. Why is it that Christians don't want to create this type of stuff anymore? Whether you're and, you know, talking about those types of institutions, but also, you know, entertainment, we're now starting to see that happen. We're having some, some really top-notch, uh, Christian films that are coming out of the, uh, one about George Foreman. We just saw that recently. That was an excellent film.
Starting point is 00:35:16 And, uh, so, you know, there, there's some good films that are being made out there finally. And people are, are stepping up to the plate. That's what you're doing with Brave Books. It's very important to have that because you've got to have that model of what this should look like. You can't just sit on the sidelines and say, no, that's not right. You've got to show people what the right way is, I think. Yeah, exactly. You can't just have something that you're running from.
Starting point is 00:35:42 You have to have something that you're running to. And yeah, our forefathersathers they built all sorts of institutions yeah and you know whether it was whether it was christian churches building all sorts of philanthropic endeavors like like the whole like hospitals yeah that was a christian thing and now now there's too much of just sitting on the sidelines and complaining and not enough getting our hands dirty, rolling up our sleeves and building stuff. Yeah. And, and, and the world needs it.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Yes, absolutely. Well, I certainly take off my hat to you. You have put your life on the line and you're building something that I think is going to have a lot of positive influence for kids and getting them at an early age. Everybody understands, at least we should understand, because the other side understands how important it is to get kids at an early age and to instill their values.
Starting point is 00:36:32 And so parents need to be instilling their values, instilling their faith and their societal values in the kids. And I think that's a great tool, what you've set up there with Brave Books. Again, it's bravebooks.com. And you've got information there about the august 5th event i guess then people can keep an eye out for that to see what's going to be what your next move is going to be as the american library association is trying to shut down books right right we've got we've got information on our site brave bravebooks.com, to help people host their own story hours. And so a lot of resources that you can use at bravebooks.com.
Starting point is 00:37:11 And yeah, but if you're not going to host your own story hour, a great way to support that, what we're doing to fight for our libraries, is to go and subscribe to our Freedom Island Book Club. Yes, yes. Looks like a great program. And again, think about that if you're a. Yes. It looks like a great program. And again, you know, think about that. If you're a grandparent, get it for your grandkids, you know, always can chip in on that. Trent is great talking to you. I really love what you're doing. They're brave books and you're right. More people need to step up and take the initiative. We had a wonderful country here at one point in time because we had the founders who did
Starting point is 00:37:43 step up and they put their life on the line and their fortune on the line and that's what you've done and you're founding something that i think is going to be very important thank you so much for joining us thanks for having me david the common man. They created common core to dumb down our children. They created common past to track and control us. Their commons project to make sure the commoners own nothing and the communist future. They see the common man as simple, unsophisticated, ordinary.
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