The David Knight Show - INTERVIEW: Life with an EV During Winter Storms
Episode Date: December 20, 2022Everything you wanted to know but the mainstream press wouldn't report. Eric Peters, EPautos.com reports on his experience with 2023 Fords F-150 Lightning Truck and Mustang Mach-E during ice storm and... power outage. And why are AM radios omitted from EVs?Find out more about the show and where you can watch it at TheDavidKnightShow.com If you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-showOr you can send a donation through Zelle: @DavidKnightShow@protonmail.comCash App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Mail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Money is only what YOU hold: Go to DavidKnight.gold for great deals on physical gold/silverBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.
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All right, and joining us now is Eric Peters.
I've been very anxious to talk to Eric over the last couple of days.
We were scheduled to have an interview on Friday,
but it was out of electricity.
And I thought out of power.
And I thought that's interesting because he's got a couple of, uh, you know,
brand new Ford vehicles, one of them, the F one 50 lightning truck and the other one, the Mustang.
And so, uh, welcome, uh, Eric.
And, uh, tell us a little bit about what's been going on as you're trying
to review electric cars and you lose power.
Yeah.
Well, you know, it gave me
some insight into what it's actually like to live with one of these things. As it happened, we had
a nice storm that rolled through the area and that knocked the power out. And of course, that meant
that I couldn't charge the thing at home. And that was problematic because prior to that, prior to
the power going out, I had driven it around just a little bit, and it had winnowed down the range to not very much, and so it was necessary to plug the thing in.
But the power went out, so if I hadn't had another vehicle to drive that wasn't electric,
I would have been stranded, and I have discovered over the course of driving electric vehicles now
for the past couple of weeks that unlike every other vehicle I've ever driven in the past 25 something years,
I can only drive the thing basically every other day because of this lag time that occurs
in between having to park it and charge it and being able to drive it again.
A lot of people don't know that you cannot charge one of these things at home any faster
than in a couple of hours.
That's using a 240-volt dedicated circuit.
And you have to have an electrician come out to run a dedicated circuit
from your panel to do that,
and that's going to cost you a significant amount of money.
And if your house only has a 100-amp panel,
you're going to have to get your panel upgraded,
and that's going to potentially cost you as much as $3,000
when all is said and done.
And people are not being told about this.
And what it winds up being is that my ability to drive has been winnowed down by about half.
And I think that's ultimately what they want with these electric vehicles.
Yeah, you don't have to go anywhere.
Who are you?
Why would you?
Are you a government official or something?
Are you working for a bureaucracy?
Why would you need to go anywhere?
You're going to stay within a 15-minute area here.
You'll be able to walk anywhere you need to go anywhere? You're going to stay within a 15-minute area here. You'll be able to walk anywhere you want to go,
and we'll have this all set up like the village, like the prisoner, you know, Patrick.
Yeah, it is such a contrast with my 20-year-old gas-powered truck.
I always keep at least one 5-gallon jug of gas on hand in case the power goes out,
in case I forgot to put gas in the truck.
I can just pour that 5 gallons of gas in the truck.
You cannot do that with an electric vehicle.
There's no practical way to store the energy equivalent of five gallons of gas and just keep it in a shed somewhere.
So if you haven't charged it and if you have no means to charge it, you're stuck.
You know, I remember you had an electric vehicle a few years ago that you liked. Of course, they've discontinued it, the Chevy Volt, because they claimed, well, it's not a zero-emission vehicle
because it's got a motor that is used as a generator, essentially, to drive the battery.
But they took that off the market.
You wouldn't have had this problem if you had had some kind of a hybrid like that.
Yeah, now that was only 99.99999%
clean. So that was unacceptable. And essentially what it was, was an automotive equivalent of
a diesel electric locomotive. Diesel electric locomotives have a diesel engine that provides
the power that runs the electric motors that propel the vehicle. So you carry along your
generator with you and it's a good solution.
And it really worked well.
And so, of course, they had to get rid of it.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, tell us a little bit about your reviews.
You've got detailed reviews of the F-150,
and you had some preliminary information last time I looked on the Mustang.
Maybe you've got another article.
Yeah, I just posted the full-length review about that actually this morning,
so it's available for anybody who'd like to check it out. I found out a number of very interesting
things. That's at epautos.com, so they can find out those things. Yeah. Even for me, you know,
I try to keep abreast of these things, and yet there were things about it that I wasn't aware
of until I actually, for example, looked at the owner's manual of a Lightning pickup truck. I
pawed through that, and right there in the owner's manual, it says that you're encouraged to not use one of those commercial fast be able to use the vehicle in any kind of practical way,
you kind of have to go to these fast chargers.
Otherwise, you're going to literally be waiting overnight to recover any charge.
But if you use the fast charger, the commercial-grade high-voltage fast chargers,
well, then you're probably going to have to buy a battery pretty soon.
And the battery costs so much that it's not going to be worth doing.
So that was just
one of the many things that i learned uh after living with the uh the lightning for a week
yeah and and uh yeah it's kind of interesting because you know you look at as these things
have kind of grown out of uh you know uh cell phones and computers and other things like that
that have batteries in them and in many cases, they make the many manufacturers of the phones make them
such that you can't really get to the battery very easily to replace it.
You're just kind of used to the fact that, all right, I'm just going to throw it
away because it's already kind of old anyway, right?
And so now it's a device and it's an old device.
I've had this for a few years.
Do I really want to spend any more money changing the battery if I can change
the battery or I just get a new one?
And that's kind of that planned obsolescence is what they're now doing with this,
but we're talking about something that's $50,000 for this trucking up, right?
That's for the base trim version of it.
And by the way, the price of that went up about $8,000.
Remember when they were telling us that electric vehicles were going to get cheaper
because battery technology was going to get more sophisticated?
In fact, the opposite is happening.
It's not just the lightning.
You know, Ford has raised the price substantially of all of its electric vehicles.
So has Tesla.
And the reason for that is that the materials that go into the battery, you know, are expensive.
And the demand for them, the artificial demand that's being imposed by all of these mandates,
is causing relative shortages of these things.
And so the price is going up.
And so now we're in this situation where these electric vehicles,
which they want to put on the mass market, are becoming effectively exotic vehicles
that only, in terms of the price, that only really affluent people can afford to buy,
which I kind of think is what they ultimately want.
Yes. They only want a few people to have the cars.
And as you and I have talked about, they're destroying the grid at the same time.
So there's not going to be enough.
And we've already seen this in California.
Don't charge your electric cars on the grid
because we're having a power issue and so forth.
And we're going to see that at the end of the week.
You've got a lot of cold weather coming through Texas
and other places.
It's going to put a big strain on the grid.
You'll probably see some other places saying
don't charge your electric cars.
But when you talk about the battery, that simply is an issue of the government trying
to force the technology on people. If this thing were to grow organically and the market would
start to react, okay, so we're going to, there's a demand, let's say for a particular type of car
and new battery. And, um, so as that demand starts pulling stuff in, if they start to have shortages of materials
to make the minerals that they need to make these batteries,
then that would raise the prices,
and demand would kind of back off,
but then they would build that up,
and so both of the things would start to grow together.
But when the government comes in,
starts mandating this for everybody,
everybody has to go to that all of a sudden,
and the supply chains aren't there.
And then they mandate the shutdown of the power into the grid. It is a planned takedown. That's
all it is of our transportation, our society, and everything. The fundamental distortion here is
this insistence that EVs have to be functionally capable of doing everything that a gas engine car
can do. And so in order for them, for example, to be able to go out on the highway
and ostensibly be driven at, say, 70, 75 miles an hour for 150 miles, let's say,
you have to have this massive battery pack in order for that to be feasible.
So that's what they're doing.
They transformed these vehicles into hugely impractical, hugely expensive vehicles,
whereas if the government
had gotten out of the way and people were free to innovate, the focus would have been on keeping
them as light as possible, not worrying about highway range, not worrying about getting to 60
in 2.9 seconds, but on making it very efficient and very affordable. And that could be done. In
fact, it is being done in, of all places, China, where you can pick up a basic little city EV for about $5,000 or $6,000.
Yeah.
Well, of course, the big plan is the 15-minute plan.
This is happening everywhere.
We talked about it last time you came on.
And in Oxford and other places, they're sectioning up the city.
So you're not going to get outside of this area.
You had an article about it. You're not going to get outside of this area except under our permission a certain number of times over a given time interval.
So you're not going to be able to do it on a daily basis.
You'll use credits up to get out of your little 15-minute time zone.
What they're creating, if you're familiar with the Prisoner, Patrick McGowan series.
Oh, love that show.
Yeah. Well, you know, if you have a situation like that
where you're confined there in their little dystopian utopia,
then all you need is a little golf cart to go around different places, right?
And that's really where they're headed.
So, yeah, that's a use for the electric cars,
just a little golf cart to tootle around in your 15-minute range,
but you better not get outside that boundary
or a rover is going to come get you, right?
Yeah, there's so much serial dishonesty here, and I keep uncovering it like peeling back an onion
one thing after the next.
I've discovered over the course of the past couple of weeks that if you park an electric vehicle outside
and it's not plugged in, when you return the next day, you will notice that you have lost
a significant amount of the indicated range, as much as 20 miles. I lost 20 miles at one point of indicated range because it
was cold outside. So what that means, and they don't tell you this, is that you have to keep
the thing plugged in all the time to maintain the range. Now, that draw might not be much on an
individual level, but if you can imagine, hypothetically, a million electric cars that
are perpetually plugged into the grid, and the load demand that's going to place on the grid, leaving
aside the high-voltage stuff, it's stupendous.
It's staggering.
Wow.
Yeah, that's right.
Well, tell us a little bit about some of the aspects of it, because you did like a couple
of things about the pickup truck, and tell us a little bit about the good points about
it.
Well, for example, you lift the hood, there's no engine, obviously, because it's electric.
So you've got this additional storage capacity there.
And that's neat.
That's helpful.
If you drive a truck, you might find that, well, I have to throw my groceries in the back seat
or I have to put them in the bed where, obviously, they're not out of the weather.
So that's a nice feature to have.
And you've got the ability to plug in chop saws and even arc welders if you
want into these high amp outlets that are built into the bed and under the hood. Of course,
the problem there is if you do that, you're going to drain the battery again. So you circle back to
where you were. And one of the most startling things that I found out, and this confirmed
other people have done this, is a guy named Tyler Hoover, who did the same test that I did,
which was to hook up a relatively light trailer
to the truck. The truck has a rated tow capacity of about 10,000 pounds. I hooked up a 6,000 pound
trailer to it and it devastated the range. The indicated range plummeted by 50%, just trying
to pull a 6,000 pound trailer. So it's effectively useless for the purpose that most people would
want a truck for. And I think when people realize this stuff, it's going to be a disaster for Ford.
Wow.
That's amazing.
Yeah, I had about 25 years or so ago, I had a Mercedes SUV and it was, and I used it to
tow a really large trail that was heavily loaded.
First, we took a piece of equipment that my brother-in-law sold.
We drove it up to, all the way up the coast to Massachusetts
because we wanted to get there at Thanksgiving
and take a look at Plymouth Rock and things like that.
So we said, all right, we'll do that.
And, you know, he paid for the fuel and stuff like that.
So we did that.
We didn't have any problems with it.
And we also then, then we sold that car and he had an suv
that was um uh it was one of the chrysler suvs and uh we loaded it up again and went the opposite
direction to take some stuff down to his father uh in florida and by the time we got down there
we'd pulled the it was still under warranty, fortunately, but it just destroyed
the rear end, uh, because of that point, but that was nowhere near 10,000 pounds.
I mean, that's, that's an amazing capacity.
It had like a, it had like a four or 5,000 pound towing capacity or something like that.
And, and, uh, and then some of the SUVs that we've seen, like I mentioned that, that Chrysler,
they claimed that they had, you know, three or 4,000 pounds of towing capacity, but they really didn't. This thing
has 10,000, but then you can't take it anywhere. You certainly aren't going to
take a trip all the way down to Florida from North Carolina or go up to Massachusetts
from North Carolina and back. You're not going to make that.
The amount of time that you have to take, and for example, I'm on
good terms with the delivery drivers who bring me these vehicles,
and so they tell me
about their experience.
And the guy who brought me down
the Lightning
had to stop twice
along the way
to charge up the vehicle
so that he could keep on going.
And normally,
it's no problem.
It's a straight shot
from the press pool
up in the D.C. area
to where I am
in southwest Virginia.
They drive straight here,
put some gas in it,
drop it off, that's it.
So it became this odyssey for this poor guy of having to stop and wait. And by the way,
here's another fun thing to find that I found out about these so-called fast chargers. And,
you know, I object to the use of that term anyway, because even if you believe their
storyline that, oh, you can get 80% charge in half an hour, that turns out to be bogus
because not all fast chargers are created equal.
As I discovered, the fast chargers that are available in my area, I sat at one for an hour and 15 minutes to get 100 miles of range, which is the equivalent of about five gallons of gas.
Wow. Yeah. Yeah. And of course, that's assuming that you didn't have to wait in line for somebody
else to do the same thing. Yeah. There are only four slots there.
They don't tell you what it costs. They don't tell you what it costs.
They don't tell you what it costs.
You go up to a gas pump and it'll say, you know, $3.75 a gallon.
You put in 15 gallons and you can do some basic sixth grade math and you know what you're going to spend, right?
Right.
These things, they want you to download an app so, of course, that they can track you using your cell phone.
And God knows what else they want to do, but there is no clear way to know what you just spent.
At the fast charger, if you just put your credit card in, but there is no clear way to know what you just spent at the fast charger.
If you just put your credit card in, it will tell you how many kilowatt hours you got.
It will tell you how long you sat there, but I'm still waiting for my credit card statement
to show up.
So I know how much I spent at the fast charger.
Wow.
Wow.
And, uh, as you pointed out with these fast charges, uh, when you're talking about in
your article, you said you can only take it up to 80%.
And why?
Tell people why that is.
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18 plus gambling care.ie well again it's out of due concern for the longevity of the battery and
the potential for fire yes yes that yes. That's the point.
It's about how much current can you pump through effectively a hose.
Did you know they're using water cooling now because of the high heat and load that they're trying to use for these faster chargers that I think are operating at
some ludicrous amount of voltage?
I can't remember offhand what it is.
But they do that because they don't want the thing to go up in flames, and they don't want to kill the battery. So now you
have a compounding problem because you start out with a vehicle that has relatively short range.
For example, this Mach-E that I've got has a 290-mile hypothetical best-case range. Well,
if you bleed it down to next to nothing and you go to a fast charger, you can only recover 80%
of that. So you're starting out with an even less range. Yeah, that's amazing.
And I found out in the course of driving these vehicles, and I've driven several of them now,
that unlike a gas engine car where the EPA's mileage figures are pretty accurate and pretty
dependable and pretty predictable, these vary tremendously. I found that the indicated range
is generally optimistic by anywhere from 10 to 20 percent depending on the the conditions
that you're driving in wow wow well you know when you talk about the fact that you've got these
fast chargers and you have to limit it because of the heat that's generated and because you don't
it could catch fire and all the rest of the stuff so you only take it up to 80 percent and minimize
the amount of time it's on there when i I read that in your article, I started thinking about the trucks, you know, because they want to push this idea of electric semi-trailers, right?
Yep.
You've got a massive amount.
You're talking about how much bigger the battery is in the pickup trucks.
You're talking about how, yeah, this is part of the issue with the price.
You know, it starts at $48,769, but then when you get it with a platinum trim,
it's pushing a hundred grand.
It's like $96,874.
And a lot of that is, is the big batteries, the big increase for the batteries.
But think about the semi trailers and you got somebody who's a professional
trucker.
Now they're going to take it up from a supercharger to a hypercharger.
They're going to be pumping that through at a much, much faster rate to really big batteries.
What's that going to do to the chances of fires?
That's one of the reasons why I think we've seen so many fires of these buses and cities.
One of them burning down the entire bus station in Stuttgart.
Other fires that they've shut them down in Germany and France and other places.
Some places they said, just take them all off.
We'll get rid of the electric thing.
We'll put diesel back in them because I think they're having so many fires.
I think you're going to see that a lot with the, uh, with the trucks, especially
because they're going to be trying to charge them even faster than they've done
before.
Sure.
Because time is money for these truckers.
And you can imagine a typical truck stop where they're what, maybe two dozen big, maybe two dozen big rigs waiting to fuel up and get back on the road.
And, of course, it's urgent for them to get back on the road.
They don't have the time to sit around all day.
So, you know, they're going to try to expedite that,
which is going to compound this problem
and result in even greater probabilities of fire,
leaving aside the question of how in the world are they ever going to conduit
the amount of power that would be necessary to feed,
say, a dozen or two dozen of these big rigs with the massive battery packs they would have.
I've read it would take something comparable to powering a small town to be able to do that.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Imagine a truck stop with all these electric trucks.
What are you going to do to get that kind of power in there to charge multiple ones of them?
And then if one of them catches fire, I mean, can you imagine?
So much for the environment, right?
Exactly.
Exactly.
But you know, you're talking about heat.
And a couple of weeks ago, I had an engineer on who was talking about Elon Musk's Neuralink.
And he said, you know, stop and think about that.
First, he started talking about the wireless earbuds, you know, that Apple has and how much radiation there is about that. Uh, first he started talking about the, the wireless earbuds, you know,
that Apple has and how much radiation there is in that.
But then he said,
they're going to put this chip,
setting it on your brain.
And,
and even the other ones that Bezos and Gates are talking about injecting
into your jugular vein,
uh,
instead of letting it set on top of your brain.
But,
you know,
it's,
it's amazing.
These people are just off the charts.
Crazy.
But he said, think about this.
You've got to be able to recharge this thing.
And so you're going to have to recharge it with induction, right?
And so that's more electromagnetic radiation that's hitting into your brain.
And then the thing, what happens when you charge it?
It gets hot.
So, you know, you've got this thing that's getting hot and it's sitting on your brain.
And I'm thinking, yeah, it's like all of this electrical stuff you're better looking for electricity right
yeah you know that just reminded me too have you followed the story about uh am radio being
deleted from a lot of these electric vehicles because of the emf emissions that make it
essentially unusable yes you had that uh getting rid of am now is is that is that cross
talk that is happening that they just didn't shield it or it's got to be something else because
they've always had that problem you know with having to uh sometimes you can hear it in a car
especially if you do something after market as you're speeding up the car you hear this this
cross talk that you get if you got parallel parallel wires or something, you know, and they've got electronic emission or ignition, you know, is that, so an electric car, it's got to be much worse than that,
right? If they're just going to delete all AM radio. Yeah, you're sitting on two, like in the
case of an all-wheel drive EV, like the one that I have, two very, very large electric motors,
and of course, a thousand pounds of of batteries and then in addition to that
you've got this gigantic LCD touchscreen that's radiating out at you so it's generating a lot of
EMF now I don't know whether it's possible to shield it sufficiently I've decided I'm going to
buy a high quality EMF detector because you know after all I need to be able to tell people what's
going on and and that will help me to quantify how much EMF is actually being produced by these vehicles that would be very interesting you know after we did that report
with goat tree the engineer a listener posted up on twitter uh he he took um he had he had the
equipment to measure the emf signal and the strength and he pulled out one earbud and the
thing goes you know pretty high and he showed what it was and you look at it if you multiply that by two you're getting the um the same amount of radiation that you get with a cell
phone and so that would be very interesting if it's generating so much emf that they can't have
an am radio there and you're sitting right on top of it what are the issues with that especially
because you're inside a metal box and And I think there's a degree of
flippancy, isn't there, with regard to, you know, the government that's supposedly so very, very
concerned about keeping us safe and making sure that no hazards are presented that could hurt us,
just doesn't seem particularly interested in whether this is a potential problem. Just,
yes, sure, go ahead, build it, put it out there. Let's see what happens. Yeah. No, if it's on their
agenda, they don't care what the health issues are you know they don't care about the health issues of 5g they
don't care about the health issues of vaccine forget about it uh and and you've got somebody
that drops dead on film and many of them uh they're still not going to pay any attention to
it it's just full speed ahead yeah yeah it's amazing you know and of course this is the same
government that will warble on about how if it saves even one life, that there's no cost too high that's not worth spending.
Yeah, that's just to bid their price up.
You talk about the acceleration of this big truck, and I was pretty amazed at these zeros.
And again, you know, zero to 60 was something that the automotive industry fixed on because they could compare.
And so people are into you know, into these,
uh, zero to 60 times and fractions of a second to competing against each other. That's been
a metric for a very long time. I don't think it's very good metric of, uh, you know, but you can't
really quantify things like handling ability and stuff like that, but zero to 60, tell people what
does zero to 60 and then quarter mile. Well, let's preface it by saying that the thing weighs about 6,300 pounds.
So we're talking about a lot of metal and glass and plastic. And nonetheless, because it does
have such powerful electric motors and such a powerful battery, the thing is capable of getting
to 60 in something crazy like four seconds. Wow. Yeah. So that's phenomenal. There's no, you know,
there's no disputing it, but I think
it's a distraction. And it's also, it's also something else, you know, these EVs are presented
as being responsible, you know, as being necessary because after all we have to conserve, we can't
deplete the earth's resources. We can't emit too much of the dread inert gas, carbon dioxide, but
they are gratuitous energy hogs.
You know, there's no, and I like speed, I like performance,
but if we're in a crisis and, you know, we have to dial back, we have to economize,
what in the world are they doing producing vehicles that get to 60 in four seconds
and all of the expense and the energy use that's necessary to accomplish that?
That's right. I mean, if you stop and think about that, you know, you mentioned 6,000 pounds.
I mean, this makes my parents Cadillac in the 1970s look like a lightweight sports car
when you compare the weight of this thing.
And you're going to haul that at 3.8 seconds, zero to 60.
You said there's a 12.4 and a quarter mile.
I mean, think about if you had something that was 6,000 pounds, the size of an engine that you would have to have on that.
But, you know, we're talking about energy here, right?
That energy has to come from somewhere.
And it's, you know, so you're boiling water somewhere with, uh, nuclear power or something like that.
Or maybe you've got a solar panel connection somewhere, but still you, you have to get
that energy.
You have to transmit it over the grid.
There's losses on the grid and everything.
It's still, as you point out, energy that's being consumed, uh, when you accelerate this
thing and you're now accelerating 6,000 pounds of material instead of like my car, which
is 2000 pounds of material. of like my car, which is 2,000 pounds of material.
Yeah, if this were really about conserving and efficiency, then we would be targeting
things like just adequate acceleration, you know, getting to 16, say, eight seconds.
You know, for most of the history of the car industry, that was considered a pretty quick
time.
That's right.
And as long as it can maintain, say, 70 miles an hour on the highway, that's sufficient.
What do you need a vehicle that goes 140 or 150 miles an hour for?
Again, premised with this idea that we're in some kind of an emergency and we have to conserve.
In fact, what they've done with this, I think, is to create vehicles that are appealing to the uber-affluent virtue signalers
who don't want to
drive around in a meager little transportation appliance they want this this hundred thousand
dollar vehicle that can get to 60 in 3.8 seconds so they don't have to give up anything it's us
that are expected to give up everything yeah everything is getting so much bigger especially
the trucks and stuff as a matter of fact karen and I went Christmas shopping over the weekend.
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We're getting to the point now where we've got to drop a thing to find our car.
Because even though we're not old enough that we can't remember where the car is,
it's so small compared to everything else out there.
I mean, whether you're talking about a crossover or an SUV or a pickup truck, it keeps getting
smaller and smaller because they keep getting taller and taller.
And so it's like, I know it's around here somewhere, but you can't see it until you're
right on top of it because it's so low compared to everything else.
And everything is getting heavier, uh, and, and, uh, using more energy with it.
It is an amazing trend that you see, but you're right.
People want something that is high up.
That's a selling feature.
And the things that you're talking about here in terms of a lot of space,
you've got space in the trunk, you've got space under the hood,
you've got outlets to drive other power stuff, and it's super fast
and it looks nice.
They're using lighting now like they used to use chrome in the 50s. So it looks nice. It's got, you know, they're, they're using lighting now, like they used to use chrome
in the fifties.
So it looks nice and all the rest of the stuff.
But I mean, you're talking about something that 50 to a hundred thousand dollars and,
um, you know, it's, it's not going to be used as a, as a work truck for people.
And, and that's the way, you know, people are not buying trucks for that purpose for
the most part anymore.
Yep.
It can't be, you know, I've got a number of friends who are contractors and business
people who have trucks that they use for work and leaving aside how you feel about
electric vehicles and whether you think they're cool or whether you think they're necessary,
the bottom line is they would never work. I've asked my friends, could you, could you use this
vehicle in, in your, in your work? And absolutely not. They need to be able to get to work, get
work done and then get away from wherever the work is to the next job site.
It just, it does not, it doesn't square out. Yeah. Yeah. I liked your bottom line on the
lightning. You said the lightning lives up to its name. Its performance can be breathtaking,
but it's also gone after a flash. Yeah. You know, and I got into that too, with this Mach-E it's,
it's analogous to driving around something like a Challenger Hellcat with half a tank of gas all the time.
And even that is not so bad.
Even that's not so bad because if you have a Challenger with only half a tank of gas and you burn through that,
hey, no problem, you can fill it back up to full in just a couple of minutes.
But you start out with this essentially half a tank of gas in the electric vehicle,
and now you have to sit and wait.
And for a significant amount of time, they're trying to minimize the time wastage.
As if 30 minutes just sitting there is somehow acceptable these days.
And it boggles my mind that that goes without comment so often.
Yeah, it's kind of like the tortoise and the hare, isn't it?
You zip out there, and then you sit there, and you wait, and you wait, and you wait, and you wait.
I mean, can you imagine, best case scenario, would you have an extra half hour every day to sit around waiting for a vehicle to charge?
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
That's the best case.
Yeah.
What else?
Tell us a little bit about, since I haven't seen the review yet about the Mustang, you talked about some of the of the things with the truck the charging ports and the extra storage and stuff so what else about the the mustang um
that can you tell us how does it handle well yeah remarkably i will say you know engineers are
amazing people they take a vehicle this one weighs almost 5 000 pounds and it's small it's smaller
in terms of its footprint than a mustang and a mustang is really not that much bigger than your
miata so you know this is a relatively small vehicle. It would be considered a compact
crossover if you went by the dimensions of it. And it weighs nearly 5,000 pounds before you get
inside the thing. So that's a lot of weight. And to get that weight under control is quite a task.
And they've done a phenomenal job with that. The handling is quite good for a vehicle that heavy,
and the performance is absolutely breathtaking, no question.
But it's also kind of anodyne in that nothing really happens.
You floor it, and the thing just rushes forward.
There's no sound unless you push the little button.
There's a sound.
You can make it manufacture sound, the sound of a V8 engine, if you want it.
Though, of course, there is no V8 engine there.
So they did the same thing that Dodge did with the Hellcat.
They simulated a V8 sound?
Yes, exactly.
There's a little thing you can scroll up and you can make it make a sound.
Now, on the upside, the thing is a fairly practical vehicle
in terms of the same things that make crossovers so popular.
It's got a lot of room for the size.
It's got a usable backseat, which the Mustang does not.
It's got five times the room for cargo in it than the Mustang has.
You know, the Mustang is a personal car.
It's not really suitable for a family, for example.
It's a second car.
It's a toy car.
The Mach-E could conceivably be a family car, provided you're not in a hurry to go anywhere.
I had my first car was a 68 Mustang, and the back seat was an unbelievable joke.
Even a small child couldn't fit back there. It was essentially a two-seater car.
Yeah, it fits for gym bags. Yeah, exactly, exactly. You got another no-net driving, the article where you talk about what happens in the winter with the driver assist.
Tell people about that.
Yeah, well, this tied into the ice storm.
The vehicle was shellacked with ice, and so I got in to drive.
And as soon as I started rolling,
the little warning light came on in the dashboard telling me that the safety systems had been disabled
because the cameras that are the fundamental component of these safety systems
that they have peppered out throughout the exterior of the vehicle could not see anymore.
They could not get data about the external world.
And that's fine for me because I know how to drive, and I don't need assistance from a computer.
Just like I don't need a wheelchair to walk.
But this whole generation of people who have been raised now,
like I'd say probably for the last 20 years,
to have the car provide the safety net.
Now you've got this issue of,
well, what are they going to do when their safety technology net isn't there anymore
and they don't know what to do? They're not paying attention, they're pe this issue of, well, what are they going to do when their safety technology net isn't there anymore, and they don't know what to do.
They're not paying attention.
They're pecking at their cell phone, and they drive right into the car ahead of them because they were expecting the advanced safety technology to break for them.
Yeah, that's right.
You have the discussion going on right now, you know, oh, we've got to get the trucks, so they're, they're taking this stuff off the hands of the long haul
drivers and that type of thing.
And so they're going back and forth talking about how ridiculous it is to
expect that you're going to be able to, in an emergency that the vehicle can't
handle somehow throw it back to the human driver, who's there as a fallback.
You know, they're there, they've gone to sleep. They're playing games or looking at their phone or whatever.
The same stuff that we saw with, uh, the, uh, human driver that was there on the,
uh, self-driving Uber in Phoenix when she ran over that woman.
Yeah.
Right.
And, and she, she's just sitting there because everything is fine for the
longest period of time, then all of a sudden something unexplained happens
and she doesn't even know what's going on.
And so they want to do this on, on the road with, um, these, these giant trucks.
Uh, which is, and so then they say, well, maybe what we'll do is just with the
areas where the trucks do better, you know, not around town around town.
We'll just have the humans driving.
And then on the road, we'll have
this type of situation. So now you've got a truck that is barreling down the highway at 70 or 80
miles an hour, and it is going to have a situation where there's an unexpected something happening,
and again, the truck driver is not going to be able to cover that thing in that amount of time.
There's this contempt behind all of this for the
capacity of us human beings to deal with situations. So we're all to be
infantilized and our lives and everything else to be turned over to AI
and computers that will take care of things for us. We're rendering us a bunch
of helpless pathetic illoy you know from the from the the novel by H.G. Wells
The Time Machine. Another good reference
point to help understand this, I think, is do you remember Demolition Man? Yeah, yeah. The Sylvester
Stallone movie, and they broke Stallone out of ice. He'd been in suspended animation for a long
time because the cops of the future were too helpless and couldn't deal with a real criminal,
so they needed to resurrect him in order to handle it, and that's probably what they're
going to have to do with vehicles.
Find somebody from the before time who actually knows how to drive a stick shift, for example.
Well, you know, I've got this article here talking about the rise of the robot truckers.
This is from Wired Magazine.
Of course, any technology is just great.
You know, we don't ever second guess any technology.
But they're talking about how they're, uh, you know,
how do we hand this off?
I say, take a full 17 seconds for a human to try to figure out what's going on because
they're otherwise engaged in an emergency.
So that isn't going to work, but it said, nevertheless, we're getting there gradually.
And they sound like Elon Musk, you know, when Elon Musk says, you realize that you
are already part cyborg, because if you go somewhere and you don't have that, you know,
heavy phone in your pocket, you feel like you're missing a limb.
And it's like, that's not it.
You know, it's just, I'm used to the weight in my pocket, you know, but they're saying,
well, we can have these, uh, robo truckers and we're well on the way because we've got
these things.
We've got a smart cap as a trade name, a baseball cap that detects fatigue by monitoring a driver's
brain waves, doing a constant EEG.
And there's several different makeups of things like that.
Then they've got something else that is looking a pair of glasses that is monitoring, uh,
how often you blink, excuse me, another one that's looking to see whether you're checking
your mirrors or not.
And they're looking at this and I'm thinking, and they even mentioned it, they say, well,
this is going to kind of create a, an antipathy between drivers and the machines that are nagging them about everything.
It's like, yeah, you bet it's going to create that type of environment.
But that's where these people are headed.
I mean, it's just like Jeff Bezos who doesn't want to give his employees time to go to the bathroom.
This is the kind of micromanagement that these people running these companies are using.
They really do want robots, and robots are slaves. But in the meantime, since the mechanical robots
aren't up to speed, we're going to turn you into slaves, and we're going to be monitoring you like
you're a machine. It's just amazing to me. Yeah, there's an aspect there that goes beyond the
demoralization aspect of it, which is real,
but also this presumption of perfection, to put it that way, that this technology is infallible
and that it's always invariably superior to a human brain exercising human judgment and human
skill. And that's nonsense. That's simply just not true. There are so many examples of technology
failing because technology fundamentally relies on its programming.
And if something happens that's outside of the box of the programming, the system doesn't know how to deal with it.
And then if you have a human machine miner who's never been trained or expected to exercise judgment and initiative, what's he going to do?
Well, he's going to fly into the ground or drive into a wall.
That's right.
And this constant monitoring of these people demanding perfection, this,
you're talking about nanny technology, uh, just, just looking at everything
that they're doing and measuring their skin for conductivity and their heartbeat
and all the rest of this stuff.
And, and then making judgments about the condition of the driver and nagging them.
It's just a nightmare scenario when you look at what these people have in mind.
Yeah, it's terrible. And I have noticed, by the way, when I do my video reviews,
I do a walk around of the vehicle and sometimes I do a behind the wheel segment and something gets picked up by the camera that my eyes cannot see. I've noticed that when I take a video of the
dashboard, for example, you can see these little red lights that are blinking back and forth and
you can't see them yourself. The camera picks them up, and what that is is a system that's monitoring your eyes
and your movements, which then is used to decide whether you're safe to drive
and to issue some prompt or warning, just like a stick being shoved at you
to do what you're supposed to do according to the programming.
Wow.
It's kind of like you put on the glasses so you can see, see the
right. They live. Yeah. Oh, that's amazing. Well, you know, there were some good cars
that you reviewed. Tell us about that. I think you had a Mazda that you looked at.
Well, which one, you know, I lose track. I get so many things.
Recently. I think it was, it was um uh let me find it
here i went to the uh other article here but uh i think it was the um uh it was the one that was a
crossover here um let me pull it back up uh yeah the the uh cx30 yeah you know mazda and you know
thank god for mazda thank god for subaru thank God for Toyota, those companies have not gone all in on this electric nonsense. And Toyota actually has publicly kind of pooh-poohed
some of the hysteria about it, which is wonderful, because I think as long as there are alternatives
to electric cars, there's hope for the future. If they all buy in, we're all in real trouble.
Mazda, and I'm not telling
you anything you don't already know because you own one, Mazda really does a good job of
embedding that miatiness into all of its vehicles, even the ones that are ostensibly family vehicles,
their little crossovers and so on. They have driving dynamics and personality and styling also
that actually makes you feel something. The electric cars, they are the most anodyne.
Maybe I'm just being, you know, a subjective Gen X guy here,
and, you know, it's a personal bias,
but there is nothing to get me going emotionally about any electric vehicle I've ever driven.
They all seem the same.
They're just interchangeable shapes and colors, fundamentally the same thing.
Whereas you get into a Mazda and some other vehicles that have character and personality,
and you emotionally connect with the thing.
It makes you want to drive.
It makes you like the car.
It's not just a device or an appliance.
And is that a stick?
I think it's automatic for that, right?
Yeah, I think the only Mazda vehicle that you can still get with a manual transmission is the Miata.
Yeah, yeah.
Toyota is starting to bring some of those back, manual transmissions.
But looking at the price here, for the base one, you're talking about $22,900.
And for the fully loaded Premium Plus, you're talking about $35,000.
Whereas that Lightning truck you're talking about was $48,000 and then going
up to 96 plus. What is the e-Mustang going for? What is that? Again, the e-Mustang starts close
to $50,000. Ford had to increase the price by the base price by $3,500. And the ones with the
longer range battery, the price of those has gone up more than $8,000 from last year. Wow. That's amazing.
Now, I see that you also had something to say about this nonsense study that I've talked about. Oh, here we go.
Yep, I know where you're headed.
Yeah, the unvaccinated drivers being more dangerous.
What a piece of tripe and propaganda that is, isn't it?
Well, dangerous tripe, though. They're trying to draw an equivalence between people who questioned
and were hesitant,
as they put it, about
taking the vaccines and who didn't want
to wear a mask because they knew it was idiotic
and they had looked into it
as being essentially reckless people,
dangerous people, and that means
you're more likely to wreck your car.
And so where I see this potentially headed
is that the insurance mafia is going to try to jack up your premiums if you haven't provided to wreck your car. And so where I see this potentially headed is that the insurance mafia is
going to try to jack up your premiums.
If you haven't provided proof of being vaccinated.
Yeah.
Oh,
we've already seen that talked about a year ago.
Well,
not even a year ago.
It was a year ago that one America,
that insurance company,
pretty big company out of Indiana.
They said,
we noticed in third quarter and going into the fourth quarter.
So they mentioned it first quarter this year.
We noticed this massive increase of deaths and it was beyond three standard deviations from the mean.
This is something we wouldn't expect to accept every 200 years.
Now they say that this has not, doesn't have anything to do with COVID, but the insurance president of One America insurance company, he said said uh well we know that's not true
uh they just got it wrong we know that they had to be dying of covet and we also know
that nobody dies of covet if you get vaccinated therefore we need to raise the rates for the
unvaccinated always look uh for any kind of justification to do that and they will uh right
now you know the enemy of the state is the unvacc. So they're more than happy to help them with that.
It's amazing.
Yeah, and the real danger here is something that I've been ranting about for a long, long time,
which is that these ostensibly private companies have managed to get the government to be their enforcer.
You're required to buy their product.
You can't say no, at least if you want to drive legally.
So that gives them tremendous leverage
and power over us. It takes away our ability to say, you know what? No, I haven't filed a claim.
I haven't done anything at all objective to give you any reason for saying that I'm a dangerous or
risky driver. So no, I'm not going to pay this adjustment. You can take your policy and go pound
sand. They use that leverage against us to enforce our compliance. And, you know, the car insurance is just one aspect of that.
Well, you know, when I looked at this article,
one of the things that it brought back to me is I've seen so many times
that people who are supporting the Second Amendment will say,
don't come after guns.
Look at how many more people are killed in automobile accidents.
Like, don't use that argument.
They're going to use that against us. And us and you know right now the difference is what you need
to do if you want to make an analogy between guns and cars is the fact that uh everybody pretty much
drives cars uh and and around them all the time and so we understand when there's an accident
uh that uh you know the human is is at fault and it's a way that people drive and we don't have to
go ban cars you know even when you got somebody fault, and it's the way that people drive, and we don't have to go ban cars.
You know, even when you got somebody like a year ago, the guy deliberately mows people down in a Christmas parade with an SUV, there were no calls to ban SUVs because everybody understood it was him, right?
But because there's so relatively few people compared to cars, a lot less of the population has guns, it makes it an easier
target for them. And if they can push us out of the automobile, we will lose the car culture and
it'll be easier and easier for them to ban transportation completely. That's where you
want to make the connection between these things. Sure. And also to point out that all of this is
about collectivizing people. You're not judged on your actions, what you have done.
Instead, you're aggregated into some collective, the unvaccinated, gun owners, whatever it might be.
And that's outrageous.
It's, I think, probably the most fundamentally anti-American thing I could conceive of in that, you know, whatever I've done or not done, hold me responsible for it.
But otherwise, leave me alone, you know, and other people should be held accountable for what they've done and not done, hold me responsible for it. But otherwise, leave me alone. And other people should be held accountable for what they've done and not done.
I don't have an objection to insurance as such.
If it's on the free market, just as I don't have an objection to electric cars as such,
so long as we're free to say yes or no to these things.
Well, and that's why you have so much money being spent on these elections,
because if you want to have the government outlaw
your competitors even if it's something that's been around since the beginning of time uh that
you can get them to outlaw meat you can get them to outlaw anything and make them buy your product
the new uh biopsy burger or whatever uh you know that you you buy a politician it's a great return
on investment you know and yet when you have these politicians like sbf who are hopelessly
corrupt and in bed with these politicians and when he gets discovered or somebody outed him
now you got elizabeth warren the rest of these people saying well you know we got to shut down
all crypto and it's like how did you get to this it is the deputized state i call it instead of
the deep state it's the deputized state where they use these corporations to censor people
and it's a symbiotic relationship.
They can also then do favors for the businesses by banning their competition and banning other things.
I mean, the two of them, it is a fascist system, a merger of corporations and government, and it is a dystopian future that we have if we don't break that pattern.
Yeah, I think the more worrisome thing is so many people seem to have bought into that dynamic. There's a single incident, something
happens that's regrettable, and they fall immediately into line saying that that whole
category of activity and everybody who's associated with it, even if no harm has been caused by it,
they must be presumed to have done something, whether it's the gun, whether it's the car,
whatever it happens to be.
And that's a fundamental building block for a really frightening authoritarian kind of a society.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, absolutely is.
Well, Eric, it's great talking to you.
I'm glad we finally got a hold of you.
Well, I'm glad the power's back on.
I might be able to go for a drive today.
That's what I was going to say.
You still have problems.
How long did it take you to get your power back?
Well, it was out for about 24 hours.
Now, luckily, I had a generator running on gas, and I suppose I could have hooked that
up to the EV, but then I wouldn't have been very green.
That's right.
Well, you know, that's what Elon Musk did when he took his plaid Tesla to the Nürburgring,
right?
He took this big generator with him, and the people were saying, that gets the noise and
the pollution. It's a dirty generator that he's doing to charge this thing so he needed that uh i guess
he needed uh more of a charge than he could get around there i don't know why he took that the
good thing about the ford lightning is you know it's got that bed so it actually can carry a
generator out there there you go you could turn it into a volt a hundred thousand dollar volt you
put a diesel generator in the back and you're set to go.
Somebody did that with a Tesla.
They kind of looked like, uh, made me think of Mr.
Fusion in the back of a, they, they had scooped out the back and they had lined it with metal, you know, to, as a heat shield and put a gasoline
generator back there.
So the guy had a thousand range, a thousand mile range, uh, with his Tesla
because he had a, yeah, that makes mile range with his Tesla because he had a...
Yeah, that makes it practical. And you know, it's funny, but at the same time, I'm convinced at this
point that as news begins to percolate out about the real world nature of these things, more and
more people are going to be turned off. I read somewhere, and you may have also read this,
that in California, an overwhelming number of early adopters who bought electric cars,
mostly Teslas in California, have turned them of early adopters who bought electric cars,
and mostly Teslas in California, have turned them in for a gas engine car.
Well, good luck in California, because gasoline is so outrageously expensive. They're compared even in number two Oregon, because they have not only confiscatory taxes,
but they've got special blends of gasoline.
It's like Starbucks or something.
But at least you can get going.
Yeah, I know.
I agree.
Yeah.
You know that, how do you put a value on your time, which is irrecoverable?
Oh, absolutely.
Absolutely.
Well, it's great talking to you.
Eric Peters, epautos.com folks, a great site for information about liberty and mobility.
And you can't really have one without the other.
Can you?
Thank you, Eric.
You can't.
Thank you, David.
I appreciate it.
Thank you.
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