The David Knight Show - INTERVIEW Living the Shadows of Bans & Censorship
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We're back with Don Jeffries. I'm really excited to talk to don it's been a while since we talked
uh last time we were talking about some things that had happened uh during lockdown and other
stuff but i wanted to get don on because uh he's he's on substack now and focusing there and he's
talking about how uh it's really not, as he's
looking at Facebook and looking at Twitter, I feel the same way.
I think Twitter's actually even gotten worse.
But thank you for joining us, Don.
Good to have you.
Thank you for having me, David.
It's great to be here.
I certainly admire what you're doing.
For a lot of us, you're our daily news feed.
Well, thank you.
I admire what you're doing.
And you're on a lot of different broadcasts.
Give us your schedule.
You've got a program today, another one tomorrow.
Tell us when and where people can find you.
Well, I live stream iProtest.
That's a show I've been doing for a while now on Rockfin and on the YouTube channel.
Of course, because of the shadow banning, I have to – Tony has to – Tony Aardemar produces.
He has to take it down immediately
after we do it but we like the live stream because because otherwise they'll just they'll suspend
me or whatever wow but if we do it we can do this trick and that you know it gives another feed a
whole another chat it's a lot of people watching on youtube so that's 5 p.m eastern on rockfin and
my youtube channel and saturday i do america unplugged same places rockfin and my YouTube channel. And Saturday, I do America Unplugged, same places.
Rockfin and on my YouTube channel with Tony and Billy Ray Valentine.
I also am on Jeff Renton's show every Monday.
That's a big night.
Wow.
Got a busy schedule there.
Yeah, 9 p.m. Eastern there.
And plus the interviews I do.
I pretty much never say no to anybody.
Not that I would ever say no to you, but I don't say no to anybody.
Anybody wants to talk to me, I'm happy to do it.
Well, that's very different from YouTube because we just had, you know,
we got a new president at YouTube and he's saying, well, you know,
these people who are broadcasting independently, broadcasting,
I guess from their basement, maybe he said to, to try to make us sound bad.
I'm not in the basement. I'm not in the basement.
I'm actually in the garage.
So there, you know, but I'm a floor up.
I am in the basement.
There you go.
But he said, they simply don't have context.
And it's like, oh, really?
You've got context?
Let me give you some context.
YouTube censors people.
YouTube lies to you.
They push you a lying narrative, and they cover up any criticism of that.
They can't handle the truth.
So they shut it down.
That's what you need to know about YouTube.
But, uh, you've got a, uh, an op-ed piece here, dodging the sensors and the shadow bands.
It isn't even a level playing field.
Why?
I certainly agree with that as well.
No, it isn't.
You know, I, um, once COVID hit and like you i i don't know how soon you came to
realize uh what a what a psyop it was or whatever but i i never bought the covid narrative for a
second that's right so i was one of the first ones speaking out on the facebook and my uh audience
there really grew by leaps and bounds so i got got up to the maximum amount of five, they don't like to have any more than 5,000 friends. So I was posting almost daily and
a lot of people weren't posting yet. And I was questioning things as they were going along.
And I started getting, you know, big reactions to everything I posted. So
happy with that, obviously. And, but at a certain point, I don't know, someone's especially probably
maybe before the vaccine came up, but certainly by then, I started noticing suddenly I was posting the same stuff and, you know, I was getting almost no reactions at all. I've done a test before, but I do a very obvious test. On January 20th was a one-year anniversary of my brother dying.
You know, I attribute that to hospital COVID protocol.
That's what we talked about the last time I had you on.
We were talking.
Yeah.
So, and it's happened, obviously, we don't know how many others, thousands, maybe millions of others.
So, I posted about it being a one-year anniversary, how sad I was.
But I mentioned the hospital, killing him in the COVID protocol.
So I got one reaction in an hour.
One reaction.
So I posted it again an hour later without any of the stuff about the hospital.
I just posted a heartfelt how much I missed him, and he'd never be forgotten.
Hundreds of responses.
So, I mean, it's obvious what they do and i i just you know some people doubt me
like they say oh you're not shadow man or anything and you know i said well look i don't know how
many more times i have to show because i'll post like my last last birthday i had last year i i
my wife got me front row seats for elvis catfellow my favorite you know artist of all time so i was
very excited about that so again i got hundreds
of responses that with me just sitting there with a big grin on my face in the front row
uh because there was no controversy yeah yeah but i'm sure if i posted pictures of stuff i eat but
i have no interest in doing that i probably get a lot of responses too but anything and it's it's
really hard because you try to promote you know as, as a writer, you know, I've got probably three books coming out this year, at least two.
And I need to promote them.
I need to let people know about them.
I can't do it anymore because every time I try to promote it, it gets blocked.
I get a handful of reactions.
And the same thing on Twitter.
You mentioned it.
Really, I haven't noticed anything.
Well, it's about trying to make sure that you can earn a living.
You know, they want to silence your voice.
And if you are doing this by putting out books and, and, uh, you know, talking about the
forbidden subjects, uh, they want to make you go away.
They do that financially.
They do that by, you know, making sure that everybody gets into these social media, uh,
gardens and their walled gardens.
And then they, you know, close the gates and say, now you can't come in anymore.
Uh, it's kind of interesting.
I got kicked out of everywhere except for Twitter in August of 2018, August of 6, 2018, when I was at InfoWars.
And they still left me there.
And I was still able to have some engagement, not like I had had before.
But I was kicked off of YouTube, had years of stuff there.
I'd never had a strike.
They just took it down and said a complaint has been filed.
And I got that automated message was sent to me over 8,000 times over the next several months without any explanation.
They would not interact with me in any other way to give me an explanation.
But then after I went on my own, I thought, well, maybe, you know, it was who I was
working with and for, maybe that's, I'll give it a try on my own. That only lasted about a month,
but that time they did take me down with a three strike process. And the first strike that I got
was a video at the beginning of 2021 that said, uh, 2020, the year of the world became China.
That took, that was what got their attention. I just said the world became China. That was what got their attention.
I just said the world became China, and it was true.
And so there are certain things that you can't talk about.
And when you look at people who have millions of followers still on YouTube,
and many of them monetize as well, they keep it safe.
They just talk about, like you said, show pictures of what you're having for lunch today, that type of stuff. And it's just as
inconsequential as that. And I find it interesting that they allow the, you know, the back and forth
of, you know, conservatives attacking who they call woke and all the rest of the stuff,
the Marxists, they allow them to come after the cultural Marxists and the LGBT,
and they can use some very strong language about that,
and they don't get taken down because they want that kind of back and forth
and they want that kind of civil war.
They don't want you criticizing their narrative, however,
or their corporations or their vaccines or their pandemics and that type of thing.
Yeah, it's the louder with crowder kind of thing you know
where he gets with a lot of that he has a huge example yeah he and paul joseph watson a perfect
example of the people who hang out and and really strong you know language about these cultural
things they're fine with that they like that yeah as long as you stray away and you know alex jones
was certainly the first one that was the first shot they fired because people forget how different YouTube was, I don't know, even five years ago, I guess, or six years ago.
I don't know when Alex was banned, 2016, 17, something like that.
18, yeah.
Okay, 18, okay.
So they went after the biggest name in the conspiracy world first.
And I remember at the time arguing for him.
And, again, I said, look, it's got nothing to do with me.
It doesn't matter what I think about Alex Jones.
It's going to set a horrible precedent.
And it did.
Yeah.
It was just two months later that they took out 800 sites, places like Free Thought Project and stuff like that.
They were not Trump supporters.
You know, they were against the police state.
You know, it was people like Free Thought Project, antiwar.com, on and on.
They were taking out these sites.
Why? thought project andywar.com on and on they were taking out these sites why because if you oppose
the surveillance and control state if you oppose the intelligence community and what they're doing
with wars and all the rest of this stuff that's the the third rail you cannot do that no and it's
it's it's you mentioned about the they allowed some of this back and forth to go because they
they like to keep up the
pretense you know the fake without you to say the fake left right pair uh paradigm which is true
yes and they still have it so you can have these conservatives and i i get mistaken for a
conservative all the time but you know what's the last thing i am what what what is there about this
country what i call america 2.0 what what is there about it that's worth conserving?
There's nothing.
I mean, what are you going to conserve?
But you still have these people that are foolishly believing that we're,
the way we were in the 1950s or something.
I'm not sure what kind of an America they're seeing,
and they're not fighting effectively.
You know, it's interesting.
The people who call themselves conservatives,
and this goes back even to the 1800s in the UK.
And they would say, you know, the radicals will move society.
They'll move the agenda and everything.
Then the conservatives will make it permanent.
You know, that seems to be their function.
They move the goalposts and the conservatives come in and put the concrete all around it.
Yeah, you see it now all the time you'll see it i mean uh tucker garlson garlson is covering some good stuff and i i'm
i'm amazed it's how far he goes sometimes but uh they still keep it kind of in those parameters
where they'll uh they're they're not and anything that smacks of conspiracy and that's again why
they uh again prior to Alex,
people forget after every one of these incidents you had, like,
if this was had been pre 2018 with the weather balloons and certainly the train derailments that are happening every day now, suddenly, um,
it would have had great videos from a lot of them,
probably from people's basements. And some of those videos,
people forget how impressive a lot of those videos were.
I don't know who these people were a lot of times, but they had good graphics.
They were doing real investigative journalism, asking the right questions.
Some of them were good, but there were a lot of good ones out there,
and they were questioning the narratives of all these things.
Certainly, there's so much to question now with what we've seen, just
with all the balloons being shot down or
whatever they are and the fact that they
can't identify. How can you shoot
something down and still not know anything about it?
I don't know.
But that's what they tell you.
Well, you pretty much come
out now and say, yes, weather balloons is
probably ours. It's probably this little tiny
club over here that had a $12 balloon and we spent a million dollars to shoot it down because it took
us a couple of tries of the missile i mean it's just it's beyond belief but you know it's a big
part of it is the distraction from things that they don't want you seeing you know the pipeline
exposure by yes i hearst and stuff like that as well as this whole disaster in ohio is at the very least an embarrassment about their
total disconnection from the american public and what is happening to us at the worst it shows
things like my id and how these people have been you know prepping for this type of thing it's
another one of these um you know whether or not there's a conspiracy with that it shows absolute
total callous disregard and hypocrisy about what they're doing.
And so they don't want that to be seen.
Yeah.
And you don't even have to go into the conspiratorial world to effectively criticize people.
I mean, go back to 9-11.
You don't even have to say anything about it being an inside job. job just asked what what what was our multi-trillion dollar defense system doing while planes flew
around for an hour and a half with the last one headed for the heart of the defense establishment
yeah what exactly were they doing so what was norad doing yeah it's just like they were tracking
weather balloons and santa claus i don't know and now we see again that's why when people talk about
uh i get all the time that someone would have talked about any kind of conspiracy.
Well, lots of people do talk.
They then died after they talked.
But there's nobody to talk to.
They can talk to you.
They can talk to shows like this.
But they can't go on 60 Minutes and get a talk.
Like right now, Tucker Carlson and really all of Fox News seems to be interviewing a lot of the people in Palestine.
And I think it's interesting that it's Palestinian or Palestine.
It's funny that that talent was there.
We're all Palestinians now.
I mean, they're talking to these people, but nobody else is.
The mainstream media isn't interested in it.
And if anything, you don't even
have to postulate a conspiracy there you have to say okay i'm no expert on trained arraignments
but i didn't know this was a thing you had pete budaj said uh he actually said that there's we
average a thousand trained arraignments a year yeah so let's uh tear down some overpasses because
they're racist we're not gonna do anything about that i mean you know there are things that they can do about that and i talked about that you know the the emergency
braking where you know since the 1800s they've been using this pneumatic system like you have
on trucks but that's one system for the entire train and so it takes that's one of the things
besides the the massive inertia of that much weight which is always going to take a lot of
time to slow things down.
But it has a slowed down response because it's got to, you know, that pressure has got to be relieved all the way down the line. So they talked about, well, let's put on electric braking,
electronic braking, emergency braking that will apply at least every train car will have its own
set of brakes and they'll all apply immediately, you know, to try to minimize this somewhat.
They don't want to do that.
And they don't want to spend any of their half a trillion dollars on all this.
He got $560 billion.
This system was estimated by the Obama administration to be a half a billion.
And the railroad said it'd cost 3 billion.
Either way, it'd be a tiny part of what they have for their
infrastructure, but they're not going to spend a penny of it. And Trump just shut it down.
So nobody cares about the infrastructure. They're working on destroying the infrastructure,
destroying our country, destroying our food supply. And this all works under their agenda, frankly.
Yeah. And I talk all the time about the infrastructure because it hasn't been touched
since I think really you can argue the greatest government program, and there have been very many of them.
The greatest government program was the National Highway System under Eisenhower.
That's what really got the infrastructure we know and love today started, but that was the late 50s.
And he did it because he wanted to use it for military purposes.
Yeah, exactly.
I mean,
they were, you know, they were patterning after the Autobahn and Germany under Hitler. But I mean,
so it was a great idea. And obviously, it really connected America, a travel possible.
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upgrade at some point and it's really laid there in atrophy for 60 plus years yeah you have people
donald trump did a big deal out of the infrastructure and he rightly said our you know
our infrastructure is an embarrassment which it is yes one of the many great things he said but
he did nothing about it and then biden wants to be the infrastructure president and i don't know what was in the trillion dollar infrastructure
bill but apparently it was nothing to try to upgrade the civil war era railroad tracks
anything like that and and what so much of it in our world we talk about conspiracies but there's
a mismatch of conspiracy and incompetence and corruption and incompetence. If you put enough incompetent people in charge,
that may be to the benefit of those
who are really ruling things above the surface,
because they just let them do their thing.
We know they're not going to do anything good.
So everybody, each person rises
to their own level of incompetence.
But in this case, who made the decision?
Someone should be questioning the person.
Again, I'm no expert on
it but it seems to me if a train derails you have this most toxic substance known to man apparently
ever uh that the last thing you should do is be blowing it up into the atmosphere i know i mean
that's why i said today so officials made that decision i said what officials you know it says
federal state local was it corporate who are the people who made this
genius call yeah well you know amber amber amber spirits is one of my favorite writers
wrote the double dictionary and he defined corporation as an ingenious invention whereby
you can achieve individual profit without individual responsibility and i look at
america as a giant corporation because because that's where anything happens.
9-11, the banker bailout situation,
no one's ever held responsible.
That's right.
It's just, well, it happened.
They might possibly blame the railroad,
but if they do anything to the CEO guy,
I mean, he'll get a $40 million golden umbrella
to go away or
something hardly be punished so it's this is i think and if if covid served one purpose um i
think it really served to bring these roaches out into the light you know before to see all the
incompetence that reigns especially at the local levels i mean do we have any idea who laurie
lightfoot was before covid i mean there's
somebody like she kind of epitomizes it these are the people that are running cities that are
that are literally are letting violent people go free and punishing people who are you know
defending themselves it's happening all over and and but we nobody i think understood who these
people were we didn't know really if Gretchen Whitmer or any people.
It wasn't a household name until COVID came and people started, especially those of us that are awake,
and say, wow, these people are really monsters.
And then Gretchen Whitmer gets reelected.
I think that's the amazing thing about all this, because the elections are completely rigged anyway.
Yeah.
Well, we have to hope they are.
Yeah.
Well, we have to hope. well we have to hope i hope
they're big because if they're not and i i tell people all the time yes i know there's electoral
fraud but you know if you look at just look at some of the people walking around look at the
people that are driving around in cars with masks on by themselves saw it all along still doing it
that's right look at the look at the mothers who are taking the three and four year olds to go see a drag stripper yeah and you see that they're set that are not protesting when they're
uh they have drag queen story hour at their uh at their school that are trying to convince their
little boy or whatever to become a girl yes i mean these people all vote they all have votes
who do you think they're voting for i mean so uh we can't underestimate
the fact that we're outnumbered so i don't know how much i think for instance i think they did
uh screw with kerry lake in arizona probably blake maskers too i think because that was an
important state because maybe they might have done something to try to stop uh people coming across
there and their state but i i beyond that i don't think
they have to do a whole lot of okay they'll do it well you know the interesting thing is and i i'd
said in 2016 uh after the election i had talked about the issues of electronic voting it's not
one company it's all of them and uh they're all of them have the potential for being hacked, you know, just like you have to worry about all of our infrastructure being hacked.
And so if we're going to set up this voting infrastructure that is easily hacked, and we had in Las Vegas an annual conference that they have there, the DEFCON conference and the Black Hat conference or whatever I think it is that the next week. But they would go in, they would set up Voter Village,
and they would have simulations of state boards of election websites,
and they would have kids hack these things.
And, you know, they'd bring in a couple dozen kids,
and all of them would be able to accept like one or two,
would be able to break into the thing in a short period of time.
And they were seeing who could do it the fastest, not whether or not they could do it.
It was just who was faster at doing it.
And so there were all these things.
And we'd had reports for the longest period of time about how easy it was to put a thumb
drive on these things and load malware in that would change the votes and then erase
itself.
We'd talk to people at the local level about as they looked at the code they found
that it was floating point which you don't need to have floating point if you're counting votes
as a matter of fact if you're doing good programming you would data type that so that
you didn't have anything that was fractional because you're not going to have any fractional
voting the only reason you would have that there is if you want to apply some kind of a ratio
because you want to manipulate the results at the end. So I had said back in 2016 that 2020 was going to be a hacking contest
if we didn't get rid of these voting machines.
But then Trump added a whole new wrinkle to it with a lockdown.
And now he's come out.
I don't know if you saw this, but in the last day or so,
he came out and he said, look, we're going to embrace ballot harvesting.
We're going to master the Democrats.
Well, why wouldn't he?
He's the guy who put it in place.
And I've been saying this from the very beginning.
And so you mentioned Blake Masters in Arizona.
He's saying, oh, yeah, we definitely got to do this.
Look, if it's corrupt, why are you going to say, well, we're going to win and we're
going to do it however we have to do it.
So if these other guys are going to cheat, we're going to cheat too.
They don't even try to fix it.
They don't even try to pretend that they want to get rid of this.
It's a system, as he points out, it's a system that stinks, but we're going to rule it.
We're going to master this stinking system, and we're going to win whatever we have to do to cheat.
That's where these guys are.
Yeah, and that's the stupid party.
That's why they call them the stupid party.
That's been their line now.'re democrats are beating us at this
we have to get instead of saying okay electronic machines by their nature are uh can be rigged
easily and i you know read the collier brothers the late collier brothers vote scam and i quoted
from it extensively and i interviewed their daughter when i wrote hidden history and their
daughter by the way if you want to know how sad things are david uh their daughter victoria collier uh who was
doing great work and i quoted some of the stuff she was doing still looking into vote fraud prior
to pre-trump you talk about a victim of tds this this woman i she first of all she got all upset
at me i i had no idea anything about her being Jewish or her father being Jewish.
That didn't even occur to me.
But she was all upset that I used the spotlight as the source, which is, you know, I now write for American Free Press, which the spotlight became when the Anti-Defamation League drove it into bankruptcy.
But the spotlight was the only one that told the truth about many issues, including vote scam.
Nobody knew who the Collier brothers were until the spotlight ran excerpts from it they published it in the
spotlight and i told her you're objecting to me using the spotlight who else could i use as a
source they're the ones that publish your father's work no one would know about it but she was so
she all their anti-semitics like okay so something was already going on with her. But then I looked at her.
Of course, she blocked me and deleted me.
So many people have on social media.
But later, I just looked her up and found that, sure enough, after the 2020 election,
she was all over the place saying there was no fraud at all in the 2020 election.
Her dad was the king of this, who was exposing it, and she was too for a while.
So people, a lot of times, they don't want to, if they hate a person enough, and that's what happened with Trump.
You know what I think of Trump, that he was, you know, on the Trump and Stein project, he was inserted in the political to divide the country.
And he didn't.
So you have all these people who now are forced to defend this rigged system
because it defeated him and that's what you have and on the other hand you have the
stupid party which most of them won't go there so i almost understand their logic and saying we
have to beat them with their own game because no one you can't now say i mean you can youtube
will uh take down or twitter even was for a while, if you start talking about electoral fraud.
Yeah.
You know, that's, you know, election misinformation or whatever.
Yeah, you must not say anything that's going to destroy people's trust in their leaders or the system or anything else like that.
Well, that destroys all my faith in the leaders of the system when they put in something like that.
That's all gone at that point in time.
What does it say if you can't trust the electoral process, it ought to be easy.
Okay.
Yeah.
You have paper ballots.
You have observers from all sides, independent observers.
You don't, as we saw in 2020, you don't try to keep them at a certain distance as they did or put up a, in one case, they blocked out the windows.
If you remember that kind of stuff or threw them out.
What kind of democratic process does that?
That's the antithesis of the democratic process.
But people, again, if they want, and it goes back to what I wrote about in my book, Bullyocracy, people want to win.
They don't care how they win.
They don't necessarily have a lot of ethics.
And so this is, Republicans wanting to adopt a strategy.
It makes sense.
I saw it in the sports world many times.
Coaches would say so often, hey, it's not cheating if they don't catch you.
Or you're not doing your best if you're not cheating.
And all kinds of ridiculous slogans.
And it just bothered me a lot.
Well, and again, it was pretty clear that it was so easy for them to manipulate things with electronic voting to do it.
What concerned me and still does the most about electronic voting is that if you hack into the machine, you can change everything from the top to the bottom of the ballot and you can change it everywhere. So it's like vertical as well as horizontal corruption versus when you got something that is physical, uh, you know, yeah, there was a lot of stuff with, uh, ballots and, and harvesting and stuffing and all the rest of the stuff, which is what Trump says.
Yeah, we, now we need to do the Harvard, the ballot harvesting, but it was beyond that.
It was not just the stuff coming in, but the fact that since everybody was doing vote by mail vote from home because of Trump's lockdown, everybody was getting these ballots
mailed out and a lot of people were getting multiple ballots mailed to them. And that's
just so many additional levels of fraud that were added to the already corrupt electronic voting
system. And now they want to lock that in. And I find it interesting, Don, that the January 6th defendants right now, you've got the Proud Boys that are there, Joe Biggs and others.
And Norm Pattis is talking about trying to call Trump in.
Now, some other people have tried to call Trump into the trial, you know, subpoena him to testify.
They haven't been able to get the judges to do that, which I find to be interesting because you would think that in this system in D.C.
where they absolutely hate Trump, you would think that they would do that,
but they don't.
But in this particular case, it might be a little bit easier for them
because he did refer to them directly by name.
We had Enrico Terrio who went to the White House in December
when all the Stop the Steal stuff was going on.
So there's a lot of ties there.
There's a lot of ties with the FBI and giving information to the Proud Boys.
It'll be interesting to see what happens, but a lot of these people have finally realized how they were played.
And that's the saddest thing about it, how they were played by Trump for his own reasons to fundraise.
And I still...
I've interviewed many of the
prisoners
and not the prisoners, the people who
are under threat of prosecution on my
show. One of the people I interviewed was
Ashley Babbitt's mother.
And she still supports Trump.
Really? Are you kidding me? Really? Because I was saying like, ashley babbitt's mother at her on my show and she still supports trump really and i could and i are
you kidding me really oh she's and i because i was saying like you know are you upset like the
because donald trump really is barely mentioned i mean really every one of his rallies should
lead off with the political prisoners in dc and how shameful that is but he doesn't he has he did
visit her and i think she was so impressed that he visited her. And he mentioned her a couple times.
But how do you argue with somebody like that, that lost their child?
But that's the kind of loyalty on the other side that he still,
that millions of people have to him.
But it's amazing that very few of these people have turned on him.
Yeah, it is amazing.
They wouldn't even turn on him.
He kills their kids with either getting her into a thing there,
or he kills her kids with a shot that he keeps bragging on,
and they don't care.
And they have this cognitive dissonance that, well,
it was Biden who put the shots out there.
And it's like, wow.
They just can't come to terms with it.
He's finally wised up enough to shut his mouth about his
bioweapon shots, but
for the longest time, he kept
that up. And, you know,
I talked about it, and it's one of the reasons,
well, it is the reason I got fired, because
it was a big fundraiser for Alex as well,
to stop the steel stuff. So, you know, I
called it a grift the week
that he fired me, because I said that Monday,
I said, look,
they've already had the electoral college meet. If they wanted to do anything, they weren't getting
any traction in the legal system. And they should have had some hearings about that to make it clear
to everybody that, or at least to try to pretend that they were going to be fair and honest. They
should have had some court hearings, but they got shut down all the court hearings, I said.
But they could have gone to the Republican legislatures. They could have
made that case. The Republican legislatures could have sent another slate of electors officially,
and they never did it. So I said, it's done. What are we doing? Why are you going to send people
into Washington, D.C.? What, to riot? This is going to get people in trouble, and it's going
to be a setup. And I said that all the way up to the morning of january the 6th on my show uh but you know but i mean i think
again is it goes to the fact that americans are you know you know you have a lot of experience
with uh third-party politics and i certainly uh was very interested in that for a long time
and uh ron paul campaign my son worked in his campaign and i you know i uh he was very fortunate
that he ended up writing the forum for one of my books one of the you know real greats out there
but i saw what happened to that we went to a rally for him in our area and you had you had people
lined up in rows outside the building you they had that we were people holding signs saying honk
if you love ron pa. Everybody was honking.
And clearly he had so much support.
And yet, at the same time, they claimed he didn't win a single primary.
The online polls, he would win 70%, 80% of every online poll.
This Rick Santorum character who couldn't put 10 people in a room and they were claiming this guy was winning. So I realized then, it's kind of the same thing to Pat Buchanan.
Pat Buchanan didn't have that kind of support.
But Pat Buchanan was robbed.
He was robbed in New Hampshire when he challenged a sitting president.
They robbed him of that.
And that's why I think Trump really resonated with a lot of people,
because he was the first one that he did it in a personal, narcissistic way.
He was the first one. Ron Paul was too too nice he really didn't you know complain about it i remember seeing the discrepancy between what was reported the local things and what went
up on the big board at the state board of elections did they hack that or what you know with ron paul
and that was in new hampshire and he just and he just backed just backed off. He didn't press him.
It's like, what's wrong with that?
And this is the problem.
Because they want to get you into partisan politics, especially with Trump.
I don't know how anybody can not look at this Republican Party. The only way you could have effectively gotten some kind of voting reform after the 2020 election would be for the entire republican party
especially their absurd leadership of itch mcconnell fights kevin mccarthy's to jump to be
to stand steadfast and say hey this is you know we're demanding answers there and just but instead
it became a trump issue and it became about him i would have wanted a landslide and all that
nonsense which had you know nothing to because i I told Trump supporters all the time, no, Trump would not have won on a landslide because the country is divided completely.
If he had won, and I think he probably did win, it would have been close either way.
But he had to say that and his supporters had to say that.
But you had the entire Republican Party leadership arguing against him then.
And that's what you saw in the midterm elections.
And I said, we're going to take back.
It's going to be a red sweep.
Nothing happened after 2020.
They're making it even easier now for illegal immigrants to vote and for people to vote.
They're nailing ballots without dating and checking and all that.
So was that really surprising?
And yet they still acted surprised, and they're still talking about 2024.
This process is the same.
If they don't want you to win, you're not going to win.
It depends.
If Nikki Haley decides to promote somebody like that,
maybe they'll make her president.
I don't know.
You really think you're going to get something out of Nikki Haley?
I mean, this is –
Yeah, there's not even anybody on the deck that I think is –
but, of course, the system is so controlled
that you're not going to get anything done at the top level.
And then it is pretty much at the state level as well.
There may be a few pockets in
the country where the local government something can be done about it but there's a tremendous
amount of problems at the local government as well so our our solutions don't really lie in
the political system uh they lie in things that we can do for ourselves we don't want to ignore
the political system because uh even if you're not interested in politics, politics is interested in you. And we need to at least understand what these people are up to, what their plan is,
how they may be coming at us to attack us. But we also need to understand that they're not our
saviors. And getting a Republican in the Oval Office of any stripe is not really going to make
much of a difference because it's not even who you vote for anymore the congress has abdicated everything over to the bureaucracy and so the
bureaucracy is making their determinations and publishing their registers and saying you know
this is what we're going to do now we've just published the rule tell us if you don't like it
oh you don't like it well i don't care whether you like it or not that's where we are right now
we have a regulation without representation as well as taxation without representation.
And so the,
the political side of it is,
um,
you know,
they,
they control who gets on the ballot.
Uh,
but even if your guy wins,
uh,
and even if you got somebody who is really gung ho,
the system is set up to make sure it protects itself against that.
And so we need to understand what their agenda is.
And we,
we've got to move against that in terms of taking measures to provide for ourselves and our family,
making connections at the local level with people that we know. And if there is something that we
can do at politics, all politics is local. So if there's something that can be done in your
community, if it's not too corrupt, there's a, that's, that's the only place you're really going
to be able to get anything done, I think and i i certainly agree with you as you know
our mutual friend vin sagnelli pushes that all the time about the local we have to start locally
and i i don't know if you have said david or not i've been able unable to find out because i live
in fairfax county and virginia and and my neighboring county where I work, Loudoun County, was the epicenter of the school board protest.
That's right.
And I've been trying to find out, because I said at the time, if we can make some inroads at that level, maybe then things can kind of cascade up, trickle upwards, you know, to use the reverse economics.
Because I think we have to go from the bottom up instead of the top down but i've been unable to determine what kind of turnover even in loudoun county happened on the
school board because you think there would have been massive but i don't get the sense there was
so you know if we can't what's important about that is when you saw the attitudes of those petty
tyrants at that level these school board members yes these are i mean you know this and
they had such an entitled attitude they literally would not stand for any criticism if somebody
raised a point they would want to cut their mic off they'd stick the officer on them and if if
they and of course the crowd as always what happened is because the crowd didn't come together
and start demanding it you know instead of going and blocking the officer. The officer couldn't take them all there.
And why did the officer ever protest?
You know, you don't work for the
school board tyrants. You work for the people, but
in every case, they obeyed,
went over, and in case, you know,
we had an example where this guy was
protesting something like his daughter being
raped in the bathroom by
a transgender. They roughed
him up.
Oh, yeah. They arrested him.
Got him down on the floor, wrestled him, his shirt was going up.
I remember the video from that.
Yeah.
Absolutely amazing.
But, you know, that's one of the things.
You're talking about exposing some of these people, like Whitmer,
Lori Lightfoot, and all this.
We see who they are, but they still win their reelection.
School board members still win their reelection as we see all this stuff.
But here's the thing.
It's being exposed to us, and there are things that we can do.
That's why I'm saying, you know, you're not going to get necessarily a political solution to this political problem,
but you don't have to have your kids in that Loudoun County school, and you can get your kids out.
And, you know, we need to try to shut that institution down because it's harming other
people.
As Alex Newman says, you know, look at the schools as a burning building.
First thing you do is get your kid out of that burning building.
Then you get with your neighbors and you try to put out that burning building before it
burns the rest of the town down.
That's where we are with the educational system because the educational system is burning
down our society.
But that's one of the real benefits, real silver lining in this pandemic was that people
were able to see what was happening.
You could never reason with them.
You could never convince them it was actually happening in their classroom.
Yes, I know that it happens somewhere.
Yes, I know it happens in the state.
I know it happens in this particular school, but not in my classroom.
Well, they could see that it happened in their kid's classroom.
And so that's the key thing. And we we have to but it really ultimately is up to us
when you look it's not just the school board members i played a clip yesterday of a of a um
a girl that's got rainbow colored glasses and and hair and everything she's a teacher and she says
we got to get over this fascist idea of parental rights it's like whoa whoa you know those are the people
that are teaching kids yeah you want that well i think i think that the only reason and another
great uh after effect of covid is that it brought again it brought these creatures in the world i
don't think people i didn't realize that uh it certainly changed my kids haven't been out of
school that long but uh i didn't see any of these completely crazed tiktok
uh you know people then and and now when you see them out there where they're you know they're
pointing the obgt flag and basically saying yeah that's the flag they're going to be saluting and
and talking about wanting to change genders these are the people the teachers because i don't think
people realize that there were teachers out there and they're advertising themselves like that but but the again i think that uh so you know tip o'neill used to say uh back in the
time reagan all politics is local and they understand that you know they would always say
think globally act locally well when we talk about education you know all education is local all
education is personal and who is the person that is educating your kids?
You can have a good school board.
You can have a good governor who says, we're not going to do critical race there.
We're going to ban that curriculum.
You can say that at the principal level and so forth.
But it's at the classroom level.
You don't know who that person is.
And they're going to teach your kids and do things with your kids if you turn them over to
them and we know what this institution is that actually looking for people like that it actually
pre-selects people that are that are going to be putting that out so that's the key thing we've
got to start taking responsibility of our own lives i've got a a comment here from the new
number six and a tip thank you he says uh thank, David, for having Don as a guest again.
I'm excited for our conversation with Don on the new prisoners at 7
PM tomorrow night here on.
Well,
that's good.
Everybody tune in the new prisoners at 7 PM tomorrow night on rumble.
So you're going to have.
Yeah.
Prisoner six is one of the,
there,
there's lots of great people out there.
My,
my Chris graves, he's been such a great researcher. I was about angry tiger, Gates and Barker. There's, yeah prisoner six is one of the there there's lots of great people out there my chris graves
who's been such a great researcher angry tiger jason barker there's there's lots of these people
that are in shows or they're not like what the knights of the storm are doing they've got us
they've got like a tv guide there of all the different uh uh times of these different programs
that's great we need to cross from each other no it's and we need to support and all need to
support each other because we need more alternative voices and
hopefully get more people listening.
But I think when you talk about the tools, that the only thing keeping the schools alive
at all are financial reasons.
And most parents, I think the vast majority of parents, want to get their kids out of
that craziness.
Yeah.
And home, certainly, we know in the past, if they could afford a private school, they'd
have gone there.
But they would like to homeschool.
But the problem is, financially, it's beyond the means of most people because of the great
economy they've created so that both parents have to work most of the time.
And you have to have somebody staying there to educate the kids.
And that's the key.
And that's why it has been predominantly Christian.
Because you have to say that, I'm not going to serve my financial
interest in doing this. There has to be something where you say, my kids are more important than
what it's going to cost me for one of us to stop working. My kids are more, and it's more important
to follow God than it is to get the money. And that's the way we're always controlled.
It is the government understands that.
They print the money up and they hand out their confetti to everybody.
That's how they get their policies done.
That's what I always criticize about Trump.
And they said, oh, it's the Democrat governors that are locking us down.
It's like, no, Trump is paying them to do that.
And if he didn't like it, he'd stop paying them to do that.
But it's always the money, the bribery and the blackmail of saying,
I'll take the money back if you don't do what I say now.
You know, first to give you something and, you know, first they'll just give you the
money.
Then they'll start telling you to do something.
Finally, when you say, I don't want to do that, then they blackmail you with it.
But people have been blackmailed.
I've heard this from the very beginning when we did homeschooling, and I've seen some of
the poorest people homeschool and make it through.
Because if you trust God, he will make this work for you.
If you make him what you seek instead of money, he will fill in the gaps.
I've seen it over and over again.
I can't stress it enough to people.
Don't let money stop you.
And that is the key
thing. You're right. The key thing that stops most people, they're afraid of it. They don't
know how they're going to be able to afford it. It's one of the things that they use to get women
to kill their babies. Do you realize how much it's going to cost you to raise this kid to the age of
18 to clothe them and feed them and everything? You got a half a million dollars or maybe it's
a million dollars. You can't afford it. You can't afford it. You're going to have to kill that baby right now.
Well, I guess you're right.
I can't afford it.
It would be really horrible for them and for me.
It's always an appeal to money as your master.
Well, I think that's the great thing about, again,
there's a lot of good things that came out of the COVID thing.
But we realize the people that are awake now, almost to a person,
all of them have faith in God.
And they realize that this is a spiritual battle.
And more and more people are realizing that when you see something, whatever we're confronted with,
and I tell people, you don't think this is some dark force, Satan, whatever you're going to call it, behind it.
There's nothing else to me that would explain a mother wanting to turn her little child into the other sex and have them sexually mutilated and uh ruined for life
basically and it's happening you know i know there's there's a neighboring school district
minor heard the the percent of people of kids now identifying as transgender shot up like you know
five million percent or something like that over the last couple of years. And it's going to happen.
That is crazy.
And so have the suicides.
You know, they're saying they're pushing all this stuff to keep the kids from committing
suicide.
Suicides have gone up 50 percent in 10 years.
Yes.
Now, a third of the girls say they're thinking about committing suicide because the pressure
is being put on them.
It's not making the suicide better.
It's making it worse.
We never had anything like that when I was in school.
Never heard of a student committing suicide. And yet, you know, 30% of the kids want to commit suicide.
That is what they have done. It's not what traditional America was doing in traditional
schools. That's what they have imposed on us. You're right. It is a spiritual war. And, you
know, I think everybody understands that now. I hear that over and over again but the thing is what people don't understand is what the solution to that is right we i hear
people will say it's a spiritual war it's a dark war i hear even hear people say well there's no
way that we can stop this and everything well there is and again it comes back to you just
like we say you're not going to fix the school system, but you can take care of your kids.
And maybe you can start to pull this institution down to help other kids.
But first of all, you take care of your kids.
And that's true in the spiritual war as well.
You better make sure you got your relationship with God right.
You better make sure you understand that you better make sure that you understand sin because nobody wants to talk about that.
And you better make sure you understand the free gift to get rid of that.
Because if you don't have that there, to just talk about this as being a spiritual war only gets people more and more depressed and hopeless.
There is a solution.
We have weapons and they are mighty.
And it's not the weapons that they use.
That's what bothered me about the Super Bowl commercial.
We don't have to engage in propaganda and advertisement and Madison Avenue lies to get people to like Christ. We have to say who he is and what he has
done and what he offers for us. That's where the hope is, and that's where people are going to see
hope. To just say that it's a spiritual war, which I see being done all the time in alternative media
now, and that doesn't do anything for anybody.
If you don't give them the good news, you only give them the bad news.
You've got to give them the gospel.
You've got to give them the good news.
And we need to exactly talk about what salvation means,
because the other side, again, you can see it.
I don't know how many of them even know what they're doing,
but with the constant Illuminati and occult hand signals and all, you know,
whether they even
believe it or understand it or not, they're doing
it all the time. You know, somebody like
ridiculous little Greta Thunberg, who, of course,
is nowhere near the greatest environmental
disaster. Wasn't she upset
about what happened? I mean, do you think that would catch
her eye? But no, you can't.
But, I mean, she's walking around with a stupid hand over
that thing. I mean, at her age, she did it at a very young age so this is coming from somewhere because
that's not something that's known to the average person what this because it's not natural to pose
for a picture like that yeah you see so many people that do so they're they believe it and
you know it doesn't do and whether they're you know sworn allegiance to that but i mean it's
just i think it's just
basically and i think it starts too it's trying to be trying to be as good as you can be and and
perhaps what is it be the uh be the change you want to be kind to some extent that's kind of
cliche but you know the more people that just even i wrote a thing about the golden rule a while back
and i talked about how almost nobody follows the golden rule and it's really hard to i mean it's you know it's like you know most people the best they'll do is
say well if you treat me well i'll treat you well i won't be unoriginal that's right but it takes a
certain kind of person to say you know even though you're real a hole and you know you've treated me
miserably i'm going to be nice to you because i want i want that's how i want to be treated that's
right yeah that's what we're to be treated. That's right.
Yeah, that's getting back to what we're talking about with the elections.
Oh, these people are rascals and they're stealing everything,
so I'll steal it from them first.
I'll be a better thief than they are.
Yes, exactly.
And it's because neither side offers that.
I mean, the entire Christianity really is based on that golden rule.
That's the whole, is that you love your enemy. I mean, people have trouble
loving their neighbor, but loving
your enemy, I mean, that's very different.
And most people, I've tried to get people to understand
that you know that's what
Christ was talking about.
I look at this stuff, and you know,
we can talk, and we do need to talk about
what is happening with these people
and their spiritual
alignment with the Illuminati and things like that but I try not to focus on that and again it
goes back you know Sermon on the Mount we're talking about you know what is
your treasure is money your treasure treat other people the way you would
like to be treated yourself and that type of thing but you know when you go
back and you look at it he says if the if the light of the eye is darkness and how dark is the inner person if
all i do is look at the illuminati if all i do is look at world economic forum and davos and all the
rest of this stuff and i don't look at christ if i look at the satanic side of this stuff and i
don't look at christ how dark is it uh for me and it is intolerable. And I understand people getting depressed about it.
That's why I say we've got to have the good news.
We've got to have the light.
We've got to look at the light instead of only looking at and talking about the darkness.
That gets people's attention.
It gets headlines.
It gets clickbait.
But it offers people no hope.
And it only gets darker and darker for people.
And I don't want to be a part of that.
No, you've got to offer the alternative as well.
Yeah, that's right.
I mean, we can criticize everything.
You say, okay, what would you be doing?
And people have said to me,
I lay out a lot of things that I would be doing.
But I think that you need,
certainly we could expect something like,
for instance, this front and center
in this Ohio thing has been FEMA.
And I talk about FEMA all the time. I think I'm the only one that talks about it. You talk about an agency
that you could eliminate with cocaine at all. It's called
the Federal Emergency Management Agency. They don't
do anything during emergencies. They were absent. They did nothing during Katrina.
They make it worse. They absolutely make it worse.
They did nothing during the earthquake in Haiti.
They kind of showed up along with the Red Cross, screwed everything, and pissed everybody off at the Clinton Foundation and everything.
And here, they told the people there that you don't qualify for RA.
What more of an emergency would you want?
And I've talked about what do the people seem to do in between emergencies?
I mean, what are we paying them for?
I'm trying to say, you know, why does this government agency exist? It doesn't even do in between emergencies i mean what are we paying them for i'm trying to say you know what why is this government agency exist it doesn't even do anything during emergencies but
that's those are the kind of things we can start there you can just exacerbate the condition i was
talking about that earlier how yeah one of my sons did a report uh in a contest where they contrasted
what was happening with a federally declared emergency on the coast of north carolina versus
a local emergency when the local people took care of it, everything went really well.
But FEMA came in and they just made it worse, far worse for everybody when they did that.
And I said, maybe the best thing is that FEMA isn't involved in Ohio right now.
They count their, you know, look at it as being a blessing that they're not there.
But it's always been, and that's the interesting thing, Don, uh but it's always been and that's the interesting thing don is that
it's always been we knew they were going to run out these these controls based on an emergency
right and so we got this declarations of emergency we got the one that was done by hhs in january of
2020 we got the one that was done by uh trump the middle of march and they continue to extend
these things all the governors are continuing to extend their emergencies.
Finally, you got the Republicans come in and say, well, we're going to stop the emergencies.
And Biden says, no, you're not going to do it.
I'll do it myself, and I'll do it in two months and so forth.
But now the FDA has come out and said, we don't need the emergency to continue our emergency
use authorization stuff.
And so they have gotten so drunk with it.
And that's the way this happens.
It happens incrementally.
They've gotten so drunk with this power that they're going to continue the
emergency without the emergency.
They're going to continue their authority without their emergency,
their usurped authority.
That's what we should call it, the EUA emergency usurped authority.
So they're going to get rid of the emergency part.
They keep the usurped authority.
How about that?
Well, that's why when you give these people who are drunk with power and showing themselves to be completely irresponsible, given any kind of power, when you give them new powers, they're never going to get them back.
So the powers we gave everybody at all levels, authorities at all levels under COVID, they're not going to easily get that back.
I mean, they were able to.
And I'll have, I hope you have me back on my book about COVID.
It's coming out very soon, Asking the Truth.
And I'm going to talk about how, and it's,
I documented from the beginning to end, you know,
I was covering this right from the beginning.
You show exactly what a fraud this has been.
And I'm sorry, I'm not, you know, call it a hoax,
whatever you want, but COVID-19 has never been isolated.
Never isolated.
And they tell you that.
That's right. Not me. That's right have i'll have that all in the book but uh once they when's that
going to be released uh well it's basically it's a smaller publisher so it's going to be very soon
it's when i'm i'm going you know we're tweaking over the mandatory one more time it might be a
month or two but i'll definitely let you know i'm promoting it everywhere i can i hope people read
it and uh yeah contact me I'll get you on.
Yeah, you know, when we looked at this, and again, I was familiar with the germ games that they've been running from Dark Winter on.
I had somebody contact me a couple years before.
They said, we're getting a lot of buzz about Dark Winter 2.
Something's coming.
And so I was like, oh, look, you know, I'd also covered problems that they'd had at these biosafety level three and four labs.
And they're proliferated all over, you know, hundreds of them in the United States, typically around universities.
So I looked at that.
It's like, hmm, you know, I don't believe that that came from a bat in a soup bowl.
But I but, you know, that the Wuhan biosafety level four lab, the only one they had in China was right there.
So I thought, well, maybe there is something there, but I said at the time,
you know, look at the hoaxes that there have of the Chinese people falling down
the streets and I say, if we follow this path, that, that looks exactly like what
they've rehearsed, but I said, if we give them this power, they will never let go
of it and they still have it.
And we're a thousand 72 days into it.
No. And they have to, they have to be very pleased with the way it turned out yeah as i put as i put
them this this is we've been at world war three stop looking for putin and ukraine we are at world
war three we've been at world war three since they declared this and it's a real world war it's the
governments of all the war world are at war with their own people. That's right. And it's, you know, people have to fight for essential freedom.
And there's very few people that are in power that are on our side, unfortunately.
They have a public platform.
But this is, you know, this is something.
Isn't that the amazing thing?
I've said this all along.
It doesn't matter what country.
It doesn't matter what their state of political philosophy is or their political party, whether they're conservative, liberal, socialist.
They all had exactly the same approach at exactly the same time. They would say, we're doing,
this is what we're doing now. We told you we're going to do this two months before. Now we're
doing it now. And then two months from now, we're going to do this next thing. And it's like, well,
this isn't obviously not even an emergency, right? You're just executing a step-by-step plan and
you're doing it iteratively so yeah it'll have
all the operation dark winter dark one and all the other tabletop exercises all the ridiculous
predictions by bill gates and the usual suspects that this was going to happen the predictive
programming which you always see and even for this uh drama disaster in ohio you see that movie white
boys it was on netflix last year it's set exact same scenario in ohio so i mean i i don't i don't if
people wonder why we believe in conspiracies i mean you know it's just and they're pushing out
the my id bracelets you know and we'll have these things ready for you right about the time that
this accident happens you know it's like a nice timing that you got there how coincidental and
fortunate that you've got that timing and so here comes cb cdc and they're going to uh uh you know be uh grabbing those my id bracelets it truly is
amazing and it is truly amazing how they're getting away with it and and they do it because of the
absolute total control of social media and the press and that's what we were talking about i
agree with you i think that things have gotten worse with twitter part of it i think don is i think that um uh in a day
i think the shadow banning stuff is still there obviously for me but i think it's gotten worse
because i think musk has gone in and they said you know you're going to pay the eight dollars
or whatever it is a month or we're going and we'll promote your stuff otherwise we're going
to push it back.
And so I think because I didn't buy into that, that I think that it's, it's actually
gotten far worse for me because I left the other stuff in and now they've got a new
metric there to shove my stuff down, which is I didn't pay them, you know, and, uh,
I'm not interested in paying, you know, if that was all it was, I would do it.
But I know that, you know, because because he has 80 engineers working overnight to make sure that he rises to the top of the heap there,
the guy's a bigger or at least as big an ego trip as Trump is on.
And I'm not a big fan of Elon Musk and his technocracy background.
So I know that he'll never be somebody that really wants to give me a fair shake on there, even if I give him the $8
a month.
I'm not going to go there.
It was great talking to you, Don. And again,
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The common man.
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