The David Knight Show - INTERVIEW Masking the Truth - Donald Jeffries 

Episode Date: May 31, 2023

Many people still don't understand they've been played for the last 3 years. Many who never trusted it just want to move on and get along with their lives. But we must not forget or misunderstand the deliberate fraud. Don Jeffries, "I Protest" DonaldJeffries.substack.com, joins to talk about his new book "Masking the Truth: How COVID-19 Destroyed Civil Liberties and Shut Down the World" Find out more about the show and where you can watch it atTheDavidKnightShow.com If you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-show Or you can send a donation through Mail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @[e-mail] App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7 Money is only what YOU hold: Go to DavidKnight.gold for great deals on physical gold/silver For 10% off Gerald Celente's prescient Trends Journal, go to TrendsJournal.com and enter the code KNIGHTBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.

Welcome back and joining us now is Don Jeffries and you can find him on Substack, donaldjeffries.substack.com, but it's also there as I protest. And before we talk about his book, uh, you know, I was, uh, we did a repeat on Memorial day. I had this to talk about it along with some other people's comments about Memorial day and ongoing wars. I didn't get to that yesterday, but I want to talk about that now and begin with an excellent op-ed piece that Don wrote, Standing Up for Peace on Memorial Day. Thank you for joining us, Donald.

It's always a pleasure to be here, Dave. Tell us a little bit about your, tell the audience about your take, because I've got it right here in front of me, about your take on Memorial Day and on war in general and how we, you know, part of what you've got here is just how we are led along with hero worship. And I've seen this in China as well. When we went to China, I was absolutely amazed to see all the the mal merchandise the mal merchandise uh it was everywhere everywhere and people were buying it you

know commemorative stuff this is a guy who killed more of his own citizens than any other political leader ever in history and they're buying mugs and posters and all this kind of stuff and we do the same thing here don't we yeah i mean we I mean, we just, and that's why, you know, my heroes don't fit in on, like, General Smedley Butler. I mean, he just doesn't. One of the comments on my sub-stack piece talked about he was tempted to bring up Smedley Butler at the family gathering on Memorial Day.

But, I mean, it just doesn't fit. If somebody wrote words or racket. Even John F. Kennedy, I think one of the main reasons that's JFK, and I write about the main reasons jfk and if you i write about the kennedys a lot and how they really so many people still hate the kennedys and i try to point out look they're really different than these other democrats they don't they don't get the kind of press and most of it is being an ad press because kennedy made i think the greatest speech any president ever has that's the american university peach speech in june of 1963

and uh listen to that speech i mean he talked about you know he he's the first president and none of our politicians do that he acknowledged that our enemies at the time the soviets were human beings he talked about them loving their children and i still talk i remember getting arguments with people when they talk about nazis and, and I said, well, do you, you know, do you recognize that they're human beings? No, no. I said, do you recognize that they had families? They loved their, presumably they loved their children, but

that's what happens when you get into this war mentality. You don't acknowledge that your opponents, who are just being manipulated like we are, are, you know, are actually human beings that could love and could could be good people just they're just fighting for what they think is right and uh but we're always fighting for something and i talk about you know i don't think it's any accident that i think

the greatest woman in american history was jeanette rankin it's uh i think she was the first member of congress she was one of only a handful who voted against our entrance into world war one and she was the only person that had the guts to vote against declaring war on the Japanese at Harbor. And she had to go seek police help, and her career was over after that. And she was like a feminist, a typical leftist. I quote her in there, and she talks about, you know, it's a stupid way of resolving things. And we are so in enthralled with it still and you see now the left uh the left where i came from you know i started out as a

classical liberal teenager and uh to see the left love war and talk about nuclear option and and talk about let's go to war with russia this is not Iraq or Afghanistan. It's a country that will actually fight back. Yeah. It's like, you know, this is insanity, but we never seem to get tired of war. You see Lady Lindsey Graham, you know, recently talking about how it's the best money we've ever spent or something on the Ukraine because of dead Russians and everything. It's like like you know i don't know why so my piece is just to try to say let's is there's anybody who spoke i mean kennedy's speech was fear and you know trump's pronouncements here there because trump will once a while talk

about you know maybe it's so bad to get along with russia but he'll do it in the middle of a you know 100 counter thing so he gets lost in the shuffle but there's nobody really speaking not for pete he just doesn't gerald salenti our friend gerald salenti had a uh an anti-war rally a couple months back and uh i don't even move to 100 people yeah i mean just peace is just not popular and war is you give a parade with the military veterans and the kids the kids love it old people love it you know everybody loves to wave those flags and it's those of us that are trying to counsel peace it's like you know we get called names and it's just i don't know i just think that i think we've been at war for

but 90 of our time since we became a country or something like that people have established yes maybe we're due for a little bit of peace, but it doesn't seem to be something that most people want. I agree. I agree. And it does ring hollow when you see these politicians laying flowers and saying thank you for your service while they're planning in the midst of another unnecessary war. And that's the key thing. You point out, you said, I'm not a pacifist, but you said, you know, you talk about people on the left. And I began the program by with a poll that was done in Canada. The people who went with the vaccine and all the narrative and, you know, believed everything the government told them,

they were typically between 80 and 85 percent of them on all these different questions about what the U.S. should do in terms of continued involvement and escalation in ukraine 80 to 85 percent of them were fully on board whereas the people who didn't get the vaccine uh they were just the opposite you know it's typically about 10 to 15 percent that would agree with those authoritarian proposals so it was like this 80 20 thing and you know it has to do with people who buy into the narrative and buy into the story there. And we see that right now, predominantly on the left. And I don't want to get into the book just yet. I got another question about you with this stuff. But when you look at

what happened in terms of denying people's humanity, well, we saw that left and right throughout all this COVID stuff as well, didn't we? But when you say, you talk about the people on the right, you know, people who say they follow Jesus, the Prince of Peace, and yet they're also about war. What do you think about the just war theory that Augustine put in there? Well, again, most of us, we think, and I've written extensively about Abraham Lincoln and the war between the states, and that's one of the good wars, supposedly. And the other good war is World War II. And again, it's very emotional.

I wrote a lot, and I don't really go into the Holocaust or anything, but I talked very much about the Allied atrocities. Somebody was writing on my, I get lots of comments on my sub-stack, was talking about Dresden, and if there is such a thing as a war crime, I can't think of a worse one than Dresden where we bombed, you know that's if there is such a thing as a war crime i can't think of a worse

one than dresden when we bombed you know this is the good guys that did it i i can't remember the statistics it's something horrible something like we killed something like 38 000 babies or something like that in that bombing and it had no military value whatsoever we just did it and those people that were later uh bomber harris arthur harris the royal air force didn't back down you know decades later people questioned that he's not i was they were proud that they did it and uh that it's when we talk about uh supporting the troops and thanking you for your service or anything supporting the troops the troops, we're supporting their agenda. It's not their agenda, what they're sent to do. So you're supporting the people who sent them into battle. And you're enabling

this mindset. So if you support what we saw, when you have somebody like Bradley Kelsey Manning who's still sitting in prison through going on a side, you also, it's in danger of being prosecuted. we learned we learned some of the horrible things which really goes again goes back to the civil war or even the war with the mexico even before that we saw troops doing things in uh iraq like playing up soccer with decapitated heads iraqi and you know urinating on their corpses uh blowing up the wrong house and lining up kids and killing me this is unbelievable atrocities

and people you gloss over that you that kills your humanity your support if you're supporting what they did they're doing this kind they're not all of them are doing that obviously but maybe it's only a fraction but by putting them in these positions you're you're ensuring that those kinds of things happens because they don't. I mean, go back to the My Lai massacre in Vietnam and Operation Phoenix, where we had a program of assassinating people in Vietnam. Nobody talks about these things. These are not, it's not like the War of 1812 when, you know, Britain came to the shores and attacked the White House. Okay, well, I can see we have to fight that war.

That's really what the just war is really about. The justified war is in self-defense. If somebody comes in like the British did and they've attacked, you defend yourself. You take certain actions to make sure that you try to, as much as possible, distinguish between combatants and non-combatants and not have what we've cynically called collateral damage. And then the object of it is to cease hostilities as soon as possible. And that's why I said earlier, I said, you know, there is no justification in this war in Ukraine. Forget about arguing who

fired the first shot. Talk about the fact that they're not looking to end it. You know, that's the key thing that they don't want peace under any circumstances. That's the real tell. You know, that's the key thing, that they don't want peace under any circumstances. That's the real tell. You know, you're talking about the bombing of Dresden and things like that. Robert McNamara was trying to, in the Fog of War documentary where he's talking about that, he was trying to excuse himself from the false flag that started the Vietnam War. He admitted it was a false flag. He tried to excuse himself from the false flag, tried to excuse himself from this phony justification of a domino theory, which he admitted was a lie, and to excuse the fact that they just used people as cannon fodder to test

their weapons. He said, well, you know, if we had lost World War I, we would have been tried as war criminals because of the bombings of Dresden and other places like that. And they admitted it. Let's talk a little bit about your book here, Masking the Truth. Is it out yet? You sent me a pre-order. Yes, it's out. But what we're doing is this is a different publisher. It's a small publisher, Midnight Writer News Press.

And we are holding it back a couple weeks from Amazon and Barnes & Noble and everything because if people buy it through the publisher, if you go to my sub stack I have a link there and it's through Lulu but if you go to that link I'll get people ask me all the time where can I buy your book and you'll get a bigger percentage because you know writers notoriously get very small royalty rates so you know the people that produce works like in anything whether it's music or whatever I get a very small percentage of it. And that definitely is the first and foremost with writers. So in this case, if you buy it there, I will get a larger cut.

You won't pay any more for the book, but I'll get a percentage of it. So we're asking lots of people have already said they bought it. So it'll be up on Amazon and everywhere else within a week or two. But right now you can go there. And if you look at, if you don't follow me, please follow me and subscribe subscribe me on Substack and I'll, the link is there on my last article about the book. Okay. And you're on Substack as Donald Jeffrey, not Don Jeffries. And they can also find it as I protest there. I think it's very important for us to go back and to look at what happened.

And we're starting to see that in a lot of different quarters here. The subtitle of your book is how COVID-19 destroyed civil Civil Liberties and Shut Down the World. And that was what Neil Gorsuch was talking about as well. And so it's good that we go back and we look at this from a civil liberties perspective, from an economics perspective, from a medical perspective, from a constitutional perspective. And I think it's important for us to know all the different tells that alerted many of us from the very beginning of this thing, that this is a fraud. What was it that you picked up on from the very beginning that this was a sham?

Well, it was the very beginning. I think it was one of the first. I didn't swallow it for a second. Well, you know, I'm familiar with the fear porn thing where they're constantly trying to keep the earth you know it's whether it's an asteroid's going to come close to the earth or you know there's always something out there to hang over people's heads but this could happen you know and i remember ebola and monkey pox and kind of hearing that in the background but it was nothing like this but when they when they started claiming there were videos

of the people in china dropping dead in the streets and then in particular that video of the woman who was nonsensically walking around and spitting on doorknobs and candles then they claimed they were they were nailing people you know into their houses when you had you know a window like right next to the nail door they could have broke the window if they absolutely had i mean just i said you know this is this is really overkill and then when they quarantined an entire country yeah i don't think that had ever happened before um it was obviously dubious and then i just started researching it i thought maybe you know i might write a book about this i didn't know where it was going. But early on, it showed that

they just kind of quietly, after putting this fear porn in people, first in China, when China eventually admitted, I have all this in the book, all documented, where Chinese media admitted, well, you know, we did include cases of pneumonia and the flu. All the flu just went away. Yeah, the flu with the u.s all the all the flu just went away you know yeah yeah yeah because they were telling they were i was being you know mercilessly i my social media presence grew on facebook with the shadow ban but um so people were responding to my post i was before substack

i was writing there all the time now i can't because nobody sees it but that's not right about this but um people were canceling me too, calling me dangerous. And I was basically talking constantly with, I still think it's just the flu. And then so when fall of 2020 came around, that's what I was posting. Well, I guess it was just the flu. The flu's not here anymore. It completely disappeared. So what do you suppose?

In Italy, they were saying thousands and thousands of people are dying it's coming soon to a neighbor occurred near you and uh thousands thousand people and then quietly again italian media reported well you know 99 of these people were elderly and they died of other causes yeah so i mean that it was a lie from the beginning and that's what i think differentiates my book from naomi's book and naook's book, The Bodies of Others, and Naomi wrote a nice blurb for this book. And Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s The Real Fauci. These are all valuable books, Peter McCullough's book, Alex Berenson's book, but none of them goes, I go down to the bottom of the rabbit holes, and I go right from the very beginning.

I was dubious in this thing, and my thesis is that i think the evidence demonstrates that that covid 19 first of all it's the 2019 version of the yearly coronavirus that's what they call it so like when i say many times where's covid 20 where's covid 21 where's covid 22 what happened to them yeah this is this destroys viral theory so they they admit that cdc the FDA, not a conspiracy. They tell you that they can't produce an isolate COVID-19. They can't. If they've isolated it, they can't document it. It means they haven't proven it existed. So show me what this is.

Otherwise, I'm going to assume that COVID-19 is, as the FDA said when they were developing the PCR vaccine, I've got the quotes in the book there, there were no isolates were available. So they simulated COVID-19 by using fragments of the regular coronavirus, which of course is what it is, the common cold. People from the very beginning, and I saw it in my family and friends, I saw it everywhere, the the non-stop fear porn and anybody that got a cold i got sick i mean let's these so-called uh symptoms of covid are identical to a cold or flu i mean what do you have a sore throat uh congestion in your head congestion in

your chest coughing um you know sometimes you do lose your taste to your sense of taste this was cold yeah acting like this was something different so you know this was you do lose your taste, your sense of taste. This was cold. Yeah. Acting like this was something different. So, you know, this was, it was, people were frightened. And then what I said, David, many times, and of course, you know, I ended up losing my brother. That's impersonal for me. But there's all these people that I would like to know how many people died of COVID, or called COVID, without being in a hospital.

That's right. How many of these people died at home? I don't think very many at all. Yeah. Yeah, it was financially incentivized medical malpractice and financially incentivized by Trump, actually, is what happened with it. And you look at it, as you point out, it's the fear porn. You began with your first chapter with a quote from RFK Jr., who says the CDC is not a government

agency, it's a vaccine marketer or seller or something like that. And that was always the case. And they had played this game. To me, it was pretty obvious from the very beginning because they were playing the same game they did every year to try to harangue people into getting the flu shot. And yet the fear was being sold by everybody, not just the mainstream media. It's being sold by the alternative media. It's being sold by the people I worked with who knew this campaign, who knew about the fact that they would use the Sphere campaign to get people to take the flu vaccine.

And I remember Mike Adams saying, look at this, and he's put up the CDC figures and he said, look, more people are dying now from COVID-19 than from heart disease and cancer. And it's like, seriously? You're going to put that up as if it's true? You know what's going on with the PCR test. I mean, Cary Mullins, they waited until after he died or killed him or whatever to run this thing because he had opposed all this misuse of the PCR

from the very beginning with HIV with Fauci. And he died very conveniently, didn't he, right? At a very convenient moment. And I talk again about the history of this. This is not, you know, when you have, and it's very much like when people talk about Sandy Hook or any of those other things that I point out, they do these school drills constantly.

They have these drills with crisis actors and fake blood and all that. That's what your taxes pay for. So they're doing this kind of crazy stuff. So it's a logical leap to question the supposed relevance same thing here it started out with a drill uh the dark winter i think i know you've talked about that dark winter of you know in 2001 all the usual suspects of their tabletop exercise what if a pandemic a deadly virus comes out of china it's always out of china And how do we develop a vaccine for it? And then they had six or seven other ones. And I've got the whole progression of them in the book.

They're always the same suspect. World Economic Forum, Bill Gates, WHO, retired politicians playing actors in it to what we're going to do with it. And it's no. CIA, Fauci, Johns Hopkins. Yeah, exactly. They're all there all they're all suspects that need to be into a lineup you know which is exactly see that's my thing about it and that's why it's important for us to take a look at the history of all this and understand what happened

because i don't see anybody the people who push this through are still heroes you know just just like now right i guess always be celebrating donald trump who did this through are still heroes, you know, just like Mao, right? I guess we'll always be celebrating Donald Trump who did this COVID war to us, just like the Chinese celebrate Mao. Well, let's say, I mean, I put the four people on the cover. I call them the Mount Rushmore of COVID because they were the face of COVID. Trump, Biden, Fauci, and Gates. I mean, it's a lot more than that, but those individuals are front and center. Yeah. Constantly selling this thing and but

if you look how deep this goes david's like we know how many people know that that dark winter exercise table type exercises were precipitated that was the first drill talking about what was going to happen so was it an accident that joe biden doddering around it just started babbling about dark winter during his first winter in office yeah it's gonna be a dark winter i mean why did he use that expression that's right that interesting i mean you know obviously he was told to and then i think they do these things so people like us people that are aware of it and awake of it it's for our entertainment i think i don't know what else they would do it but you know why would he say dark but they do this kind of stuff all the time and uh it's the last one of course was agenda 201 which was i think on october of 2019 and that

was you know the final preparations i get for the uh the dress rehearsal yeah or whatever for it and then right after that it happens and then you start hearing you know we i've heard going back to the hong kong flu you know 1960s where they would put these things out there and you'd kind of, maybe as a kid, you're maybe a little scared or something, but nothing ever happens. Ebola, we know Ebola has a deadly, much deadlier infection rate than whatever this supposedly had. But there was, nobody was, nothing was ever closed down. The flu has killed as many as 80,000 people a year.

Nothing was ever closed. You had in dallas you know where they had that illegal immigrant come in with ebola and you had a couple of nurses uh get almost die with that but they survived and the guy who got it died but you had clay jenkins who was the highest elected official there in the dallas county um i don't know if it's if they call dallas county anyway he was the mayor of uh of that area a judge know if they call it Dallas County. Anyway, he was the mayor of that area. A judge, rather, is what they call it there in Texas. Clay Jenkins. And he went there and he drove the family to another place and said,

see, there's nothing to worry about. All of you go to the football game this weekend. We got lots of doctors and nurses and lots of hospitals. This is nothing to be worried about. And yet this is the guy who destroyed Shelly Luther, who had a hair salon because she defied his order. He wanted to put her in jail. Besides destroying her business, the single mom who had the audacity to say, well, I'm going to cut hair and take my chances.

That's my right to do that. All those people who talk about women's rights and their right to choose and all this kind of stuff. And the first question out of our mouth ought to be, so what did you say about the masks and the lockdowns and the social distancing? Were you about individual choice at that point in time? Exactly. And you mentioned, you know, a little bit, just touched on immigration. And to me, that was, and I tried to point that early on. I said it in so many of my posts.

It's the southern border. It'll open. And this, again, it started when donald trump was president he talked so much about closing the border doing so he never did of course but here he had a perfect cover i don't even think that anybody could have uh you know logically have opposed him if you said if this if you have a real pandemic if this is really a deadly disease another black plague which they were trying to portray it as first First thing, any country, no matter how corrupt they are, the first thing they would do is seal the borders and international travel.

Nothing, that didn't happen. The border stayed wide open, business as usual, politics as usual. And it got to the point where during the Biden administration, I'm sure you saw that press conference where Steve Doocy asked his press secretary, you know, why are people being required to have vaccine mandates to keep their jobs? But apparently nobody crossing through the border illegally from Mexico is required to have that. Is that correct? Yes, that's correct.

So how are we supposed to take this seriously if you're letting people in, you're not vetting them? I mean, they could have leprosy. They could have anything. Nobody knows what, you know, you're supposed to have a vetting process. They weren't doing that. They never did that. And, of course, I recounted the book, all that we've all seen, all the stories where you see Nancy Pelosi, Diane Feinstein, John Kerry, the Cuomos, all of them caught out consciously. The biggest Karens in the world you know uh you know warning against this stuff you must wear your mask all caught without their mask all caught hugging and oh yeah so so

they're they must not have feared anything no they didn't believe it and we saw that as it was happening and then i think the worst and the most egregious one of these things has been matt hancock in the uk who you know he was caught having this adulterous liaison while he was locking everybody else down. But now they've gotten his text messages where he and other people in the conservative party administration were laughing at people that they were forcing to quarantine and hotels and things like that, mocking them and, and just rub, you know, Oh, this is great.

Look at what I can do to these people i mean it was the most cynical hypocritical power trip i've ever seen in my life to read this guy's texts with other members of the conservative party and that was happening everywhere we saw it quite a bit in california but uh it was happening everywhere in every country and so that's the other part of this that was a real tell i think think, was the global nature of this. Yeah, that's why, you know, people, you know, I go on so many shows and, you know, weekly, some of the shows that I'm on weekly, I'll talk about, you know, World War III is right there, something happened in Ukraine, something happened in Russia, it's going to happen. And I always, you know, because I've heard these things before, and again, this is probably a year and a half we've been talking about this.

Obviously, it hasn't been precipitated. And I wrote a thing back on Substack a while back saying World War III is here. And, you know, it's not like what if they give a war and nobody knew or something. But it's a worldwide war, as you touched on. That's the saddest thing about all this is that there wasn't a single country that dissented from this. They shut down the entire world within about a week. They didn't need a single troop. They didn't need a single cop.

There's not a shot being fired, as the saying goes. I mean, you had Brazil and other countries that kind of balked a little bit. You had Africa, some countries where they didn't buy the vaccine thing, and those leaders died suspiciously. And I have all that in the book as well. There have been some people that look like they might have been knocked off because they were completely with the program but that's the saddest thing so this is a worldwide thing and it's a world war of all the governments of the world at war with their own citizens and that's what we're seeing we're seeing certainly in america when you when you look at um i was watching a thing the

other day a video amazing video of one of the AOCs, you know, crazy thing. She gets lots of people to get up and shout at her about, you know, why are you supporting the war in Ukraine? It's like, I don't know how Americans can watch it, whether it's a school board or a thing like that or whatever. As soon as somebody gets up and shouts something about COVID or war or something that's conspiratorial in their minds instantly the armed guards comes out the cops come out and it's it's

so heavy-handed and i said i don't know what it was like in the soviet union or nazi germany or maus china but i can't imagine it was worse than that if it how would have they reacted differently for protests or went up and started yelling at Stalin? They might have shot him, maybe. Maybe we haven't done that yet. But if they did do that, I don't think Americans would protest. That's the saddest thing. It's all happened. And people just were so enamored.

And we talked about it with Memorial Day at war. Americans, just like the rest of the world, apparently they can't get enough of this authoritarianism. That's right. They love it. And they're not fighting back. just like the rest of the world. Apparently, they can't get enough of this authoritarianism. That's right. They're not fighting back. In this country, we had I think one little protest was in Michigan, and they quickly shut it down. Oh, there are guns there. There's Confederate flags, and they demonize the people.

It's not even a big thing. That was it. We haven't had another one since. The January 6th thing probably scared a lot of people because those poor people are still in prison being denied due process process and the ones that have been convicted are being convicted of felony sentences and no one seems to care. I think that has kind of killed the protest spirit. You had Brazil, you had France, you had Germany, you had England. They've had large

protests and it hasn't mattered. They still, like Australiaia look at australia they were i mean i talk about it no they were they were going into people's houses and questioning about their facebook posts and and you know and they're actually you know you can't write up if they were like like i remember there was a video of somebody where the cops just come up to the guy and i think he was in like a you know a shopping. He says, do you have a reason to be here? They were doing this. I'm like, what?

Do you have a reason to ask me? Your identity papers, please. We're the occupying government here. That's what this is about. And it really does head to that. Where do we go from here? That's one of your chapter headings. Where do we go from here, Don?

Well, that's, you know, as I said, the reason I, there are two parts to this book. Well, there are two parts to the first. The first part of the cover-up, obviously, is to build up this thing, which I think is imaginary, COVID-19. And I think it was born out of the regular coronavirus, the flu, other ailments, other comorbidities, as they call it. They created this COVID-19 monster, lied about the numbers, kept trying to get people to think there were more people dying. Obviously, they weren't dying from this thing. And then the second part was to introduce the warp speed vaccine and then to lie about the people that were dying and being injured by the vaccine. So it's two parts of that. But as I put

in the book, there's no good way to end a book like this. And I started out the book before the vaccine. I wrote a lot of it in early just to keep track of what was going on and the lies. there's no good way to end a book like this and i started out the book before the vaccine i wrote a lot of it in early just to keep track of what was going on in the lives but i put it aside for a while i think i wrote on bar and fame i looked at entertainment during that time but uh when my brother died in january 2022 it became personal for me that's when i started realizing and i talked to other people there this was happening to lots of other families, but the loved ones were dying because of the hospital protocol. They put them in there and they subject them to remdesivir and ventilators, even though you, in my case, in many other cases, we say, no, absolutely not. And you can't be there in person because they quarantine them.

So people die like my brother did without us being able to see him. They goodbye to him and we can't intervene and see what they're doing and that there's a reason for doing that. So that really spurred me on and triggered, you know, I've got to finish dedicated the book to him and all this other people that

died because of this, what I call the greatest psyop in the history of the world. And it's terrible because for in my family and families like that, most of the rest of the people think he died of COVID. They think these people died of COVID and he was unvaccinated.

That's why he died. It's my fault basically in our family because, you know, he listened to me. But it's terrible because we don't even know what the numbers are there. But even right, so when I decided to write it, it was hard to finally put it to get it to the publisher and say i can't go with it because something's happening all the time just the other day china the fear porn never stops the latest fear porn is that there's a new deadliest strain of covid coming out that could have we could have 65 million cases of it or something

and so in the summer again what does this say about your science i have viral theories viruses burn out in the summer, but not this one. Yeah. Well, you know, you're talking about it being a big psyop. I've said for the longest time, the only science involved in this is behavioral psychology. You know, because science is about skepticism. If you're going to shut down all skepticism and punish any critics, if you're going to cancel and purge anybody, and I can't even believe that's something that can be done in America anymore. The fact that you can purge somebody out of their profession

because you don't like what they had to say and you don't want to debate them, you just purge them out. I mean, how authoritarian and Marxist is that? But if you're going to be doing that to people, you don't get to question the authority. I don't have to show you my data. I don't have to defend this. And there's going to be one and only one treatment, and that's the only thing that's going to be allowed. Well, we know there's no science in that. Absolutely not. And we've seen that game before from the climate people.

If you're a denier, you need to be put in jail. If you're a denier, you need to be canceled. And if you're a denier, we've got the science. Science is there. We've got the most number of scientists, science is there. We've got the most number of scientists who say this or that they claim. But, you know, you just do what I say, because we've got the people who have the big degrees who went to the famous universities and they tell you that it's like this and you're not allowed to question them and they don't have to

give you any answers. You just do what they say and shut up. And I'm not going to show you my data. I've been there. I've been with that for 15 years. That was another big tell. Yeah, and the language is very telling because it started with Holocaust denial. That was a very troubling term that they made up with, and people were thrown all over the world for that. You should be able to question anything. I don't understand that, but they've used that, and that's such an emotional issue.

They were successful with that, so they started saying, oh, climate change denial, election and now covid denial so it's basically anything if you're questioning any of their crimes and and cover-ups they're just going to call you a denier and how far removed is that from what the soviets supposedly did we don't have a siberia that they're sending us to but we have fema camps maybe we'll be there that's what they did there so but they just said, you're mentally ill. I don't think they called them deniers, but maybe they called them party deniers. I don't know.

It's a version of that, but that's what they're doing here. You know, like they would, I remember the media constantly where they talk about certain candidates are running, well, he's an election denier. Yeah. That's a nonsensical statement. What do you mean an election denier? I don't think he's denying an election took place, they're claiming that fraud existed.

Yeah. So that's the same thing with COVID. You're denying the government's narrative, right? And the government is God, and we all have faith in our God-verment. I called myself a climate infidel, you know, just so they would understand. I understand you're pushing a religion religion and I'm not buying it. I'm an infidel to your climate change or to your COVID stuff as well. Yeah, exactly.

Well, we have to question and you're right. It's that thing skeptical, but the people that are, are so-called press is only skeptical of us. They're skeptical of the skeptics, but this thing goes way. And as I go down the rabbit holes and it's so many uh parallels to orwell in 1984 and one of the biggest ones is this i and i talk about the 1918 clue in there i i don't think we've been told the truth about that and i quote from an article in there about how you know apparently you know that that thing was misrepresented as well it may have been the result of a u.s army experiment in kansas an early vaccine experiment and then the soldiers took it into the french's with them in world war

one but i had been troubled for a long time when these photographs started appearing of all these masks that were supposedly on 1918 i don't remember i'm a big student of history and it used to be conventional history before it started i'm a big baseball fan and especially old baseball. And a picture emerged of this guy, supposedly I don't even identify him. Batter in the 1918 world series, wearing a mask at the plate. I had seen that.

I had seen that photograph before in pictures and better was not wearing a mask and no, no major league baseball players were tough guys they would not have worn masks they were like you i thought sissy probably tried to beat you up she just kissed it up so that's how deep we are so i think somebody at least that one picture had to have been photoshopped and that's what how is any different from what winston smith's job was at the ministry of truth he had to go back in history and clean things up like that. They didn't talk about it, but that's what he did. Let's put history in accord with the present alleged reality. And that's right. Well, I guess

even from a logical standpoint, one might say, well, if you're telling us that 1918 was the worst pandemic we've ever seen, then I guess the mask didn't work. Yeah, exactly. If that's the case, your own narrative there, I went back and I looked at it and I said, okay, so you're saying this is like 1918. I remember going back and looking at the deaths by age groups. Right.

And, um, in 1918, you know, when they had this, uh, epidemic, so many people dying,

they had people, uh, you know, that you had two spikes, those over 80 years old and those under one year old right yes and then everybody else is basically the same uh you know every decade that wasn't what we saw with this stuff coming out of covid that was another tell for me the fact that it went up exponentially with age i said that's the actuarial table they're showing you the

actuarial table this is not a pandemic this actuarial table. It's not a pandemic. This is the actual newsflash. We're more likely to die the older we get. Exactly. One of the first things I wrote about was in April 2020, the CDT issued a directive. Again, this is not a conspiracy theory. It's the same. This is the CDC, one of the producers of this narrative and its production, issued

a statement, a directive to all hospitals to list the cause of death as COVID-19, even when the patient hadn't been tested. Now, that's not science. It sure looks conspiratorial to me. And when you combine that with the other things, I had Dr. Scott Jensen, one of the many doctors I had on my life, also call that that's my weekly and he thought he was so mad when he got something from the ama i think during the summer of 2020 that again said basically the same thing he said i've been practicing medicine for 35 years or whatever and this is ridiculous you're telling me that i'm you're telling me what i'm supposed to list the cause of death on and patients i haven't even examined or you know i don't even know about yet

and that's what they were doing and they were and the families that the families would go along with it they had a death benefit if it was covet 19 but if you didn't go along with it you wouldn't get that cash that's all right all right we'll agree to it and then the another big thing that happened was in aug, where you had the American Hospital Association go public criticizing CMS, the Medicare and Medicaid people, giving them all this money. And they said, wait a minute, you're saying that you're not going to give us the bonus for finding COVID patients if we don't have the test? You told us at the beginning of this that you didn't have the test and they didn't work anyway. And you're supposed to give us,

you told us to do a clinical diagnosis and you'd give us $13,000 pay up. There it is right there. That's all you need to know. That was August of 2020 that they were doing that. August of 2020, that was a year before all the stuff about the vaccine mandates and all that kind of stuff were coming out. It's amazing. Yeah. And we need to not forget, and that's why, again, I think what distinguishes my book from any book that's been written,

and surely any book that will be written probably that has any kind of distribution at all, is the fact that I go down these rabbit holes. So I talk about the empty hospitals. I talk about the dancing nurses. They're part of this thing, and you can't look at that. I worked in a hospital for many years when i was young and it's in it's incomprehensible to me how even in the slowest time period you would have a bunch of nurses coming up with a choreographed number and dancing in the facility with apparently patients in the background i know and that's what we saw and these they were not only not questioned a bunch of them

appeared on today's show where they're katie kirk types are saying oh hi guys you know you're basically thinking they were heroes or something it's like that doesn't make any sense especially when you're telling me that your patients are coming out the doors and uh i had jason goodman and then later i had citizen richard who was even more extreme about going to these places what was really going on and he would confront the people inside he started yelling where are all the covid patients? Where are they? You know, and they'd just, of course, call the police and throw them out.

I remember a video out of Brazil where you had, they had the mask on and they're, you know, and they didn't, you think it's going to be one of these dancing things, but there's all these, you know, nurses around there. And one of them goes over and one by one pulls back all of the curtains and shows that there's not anybody at all on the ward.

But the key thing that was amazing about all these dancing videos were how professionally choreographed they were. I mean, they had drone shots. They had precision dancing. I mean, these are not amateur dancers and they were not amateur photographers and videographers either.

This was highly professional. They had Dolly shots, Dolly going across dolly going in. They had aerial shots with drones and all the rest of the stuff. It was big production values. Don't tell me that these people, and at the same time, at the very beginning of this, the fear was, they said, look at these crowded Chinese hospitals.

I said, I've been in China. Everything is crowded. The Walmart is like that. You know, the train station is like that. The sidewalks are like that. I can certainly imagine the hospitalsmart is like that the you know the train station is like that the sidewalks are like that i can certainly imagine the hospitals would be like that but you know you're supposed to believe that there's no room and everybody is is filled up i thought it was amazing that they set up that big uh tent in new york and um they never used it you know 2500 bed hospital the army set up never used them franklin graham never used it. You know, 2,500-bed hospital that the Army set up, never used it. Several of them, yes.

Franklin Graham, never used it. They just quietly folded up the tent and went away. And it's like, come on, Franklin, why don't you talk about that, you know? And then the hospital ship there in New York City, the hospital ship in California, they took them away because nobody was using them. It's like, why can't people? And that was all at the very beginning of this stuff while Trump was still president. And I think that's the key thing.

You know, Biden couldn't have gotten away with what Trump did. Hillary couldn't have gotten away with what Trump did. You had to have somebody like Trump who had for years hammered in this persona that he's against the globalist and then join with him. Absolutely. That's the Trump did. Trump didn't even tweet about,

you know, anything like that or questioning that because he was questioning he would usually do that in tweets he'd give the the perspective that most people think he actually has which doesn't but that's his tweeting personality which is a lot of times pretty great but it just it doesn't translate into policy but you had you know this is important from the very beginning you had like for instance in italy you had this dishonesty where they had those those that uh photo of the coffins row of coffins that came out of italy and oh look what's happening there well it was proven again by anybody in the media online journalists proved that well this photo is like from 10 years before

in another part of the world has nothing to do they didn't apologize and then you had in new york they ran a video of a just incredible strained icu you know well no actually that would supposedly part of the world has nothing to do they didn't apologize and then you had in new york they they ran a video of a just incredible strained icu unit well no actually that was supposedly from italy a while back they don't apologize and then i talk about how there was a this is why people develop these theories i mean not only had the dancing nerds as you said look very choreographed almost as if it was some kind of acting and uh then you have somebody like dr colleen smith who i tried to contact yes as an email of course i'm surprised she didn't answer me but um she did a video which violated all hipaa regulations where she went inside an icu unit and was filming and basically she was talking about where all the ventilators and criticizing

trump if you remember we need more ventilators yeah so we can kill people i guess and she was constantly talking about that and violating HIPAA regulations how crazy was there you look into her background they claim that she was a specialist in medical simulation whatever what is that how how does that not evoke sandy hookish type stuff what What is medical simulation? And you're in the middle of this? And so that's the kind of thing. And these same hospitals that were the local media and national media would say they're overflowing. It's a madhouse there.

Jason Goodman, Citizen Richard, people like that, other people would go and film them. It looked like a ghost town. And then you had the refrigerated trucks. The fear point was, oh, there's got so many bodies we have these refrigerated trucks again the citizen journalist they were burying people in central park we were told why don't we see the graves why don't we see the graves why why don't we on the anniversary of this you know why doesn't trump and biden go there to say you know this could have been all of you if i've done this stuff go to the website go to the grave sites on Memorial Day and show us where the bodies are buried in Central Park.

The mass graves that you had to come on. It's so phony. And, you know, one of the things, Don, about this going back to Trump and the things that he would say, it was a key thing that you see happening from intelligence agencies all the time. You put the truth out there in order to discredit it. So he would say stuff about, um, hydroxychloroquine. And then he would say,

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and maybe we could inject a sunlight into our veins or something like that. I mean, it was such a, you know, he was the, he was the setup comedian for Fauci straight man who could come out and say, Donald, Donald, you just don't understand. It's science. You wouldn't understand science.

Trust me, everybody. I mean, it was, it was like Abbott and Costello. It was ridiculous what they were doing. And I, I, I go over Trump's entire history here. So people that like Trump are not going to be happy. But again, he, again, it goes because it's, but it sets out trump was just like in every other arena he was the designated false opposition yeah he was the one who was dubious about it all you know he's he's criticizing but he's the one who's getting it done because he's president he's the one signing the orders and

everything and then when he gets you mentioned that dr larkin he very notably talked about how he'd been taking it and it worked and all that he had all the people in the alt world oh that's cool so then trump gets gets covid which i don't for a second believe he had covid-19 production he's supposed to see it happened to trump it wasn't the lesson was he wasn't wearing his mask he wasn't taking it seriously so he goes in there and so again the people i remember hearing oh yeah just watch when trump comes out i bet you took hydroxychlorophyll so they think he's gonna promote that no he gets out he throws him a curveball again i took regeneron you know if he has financial uh uh interest in along with his buddy anthony falchi so and again he did i don't think he even had anything but the entire

thing was just one lie upon another there and there was nobody really in the – except for people like us who were questioning it with the platforms we had. No, the RFK Jr. became really good mostly on the vaccine thing. But even people like that, none of them until what I'm doing here in this book really questioned COVID itself. That's really in the conspiracy world. And, of course, the Republicans all just took a, you know, we're not going to criticize Trump. They just took a dive, you know, in this world, the WWE wrestling thing worldwide. Yes. They just take a dive and it's like, I'm not saying anything about six months after, uh,

he leaves office. And, uh, you know, we're looking at the coming mandates from Biden at that point, you know, they started coming back and they started saying, well, I don't, you know, they started coming back and they started saying, well, I don't, you know, I've got some questions about this or what, but they would not say anything while it was a Trump there. It was that, that part of it was a real tell as well. But you're right. You know, they, they were pushing the things that they had, um, you know, remdesivir, uh, all the rest of this stuff, pushing the ventilator. I remember Peter Navarro just excoriating a GM because they didn't

shut down their assembly lines and make more ventilators for them quickly enough. It was such a clownish thing from the very beginning. That's the saddest part. This is why this is a lot of anything. I talked about nobody standing up for peace. Very few. I mean, my friend Cindy Sheehan does it.

Naomi Wolf, good people on the left. Cynthiay mckinney these are these are people i'm going to start a leftist political party with one day the few honest people left there aren't many of us but uh nobody for the beginning tucker carlson became very good in his coverage later but he was on board at first nobody except for people like us nobody questioned this thing nobody talked about what was really happening in china nobody talked what was really happening in italy nobody talked about the lying numbers that directed the hospitals and the other things we saw i mean i i saw so many of the celebrities that uh you know they were like

john prine one of my favorite singers he he didn't have covid he had cancer and everything else and i looked it up and he was admitted to the hospital with COVID like symptoms, which again, flu like symptoms, cold symptoms, just replace the word. But then you get to the point where they do things like make up this fear of porn. The prisoners at Rikers Island are buried. They've always done that for Potter's Field. That was nothing different at all, but that's the kind of thing that, it doesn't matter that you have video evidence of a hospital that's empty or and set up that has not had a

single patient you'll talk to disinterested emt workers and their videos out there smoking cigarettes and kind of laughing when you mentioned covid these people did that these are people right in the middle of the first responders right you were talking about trump and how he allegedly got covid and all the rest of this stuff do you remember at the very beginning of this stuff, they had CPAC convention. And I think it was like, you know, they,

they kick off the executive order and around March or something like that. And it was in March or April that they had CPAC. And then they said, well, we did a test and there's a couple of people who had tested positive with our PCR test at 40 cycles. And so they were at CPAC. And so now,

you know, all of these conservatives are going to die and they were literally dancing on their graves. And I said, well, we'll see about that. And nothing ever happened. And none of these phony conservatives at CPAC who suck up to Trump ever said

anything about the fact that they didn't die. They didn't even get sick. You know, it's that along with all this stuff that was happening in New York and, and, uh, California, you know, the, the, the phony hospital stuff and the phony army hospital things and the ships and all the rest of the stuff. And, um, and then of course, you know, there was the diamond princess and, uh, Japan. And I said, well, this is a good test case.

Look at how few people actually got sick and look at how few people actually died. And, um, and they were very elderly and they had a lot of comorbidities and it was under harsh conditions. And yet you had this fear porn of this guy said, I was in the heart of the Ebola pandemic. And I've never been more afraid than when I was on this ship because it's got such poor isolation things. Everybody is exposed to everything else. It's like, okay. And look at how few people got sick and how few people died. You know, they reported there's something like a dozen people out of four or 5,000 people. And it was under those harsh conditions that they had for quite

a while. And then we saw it happen with a ship, a naval ship where they were all young and fit. No, nobody died, but that guy took it to port. You know, he said, well, we had a COVID taste. I'm going to take the ship to port. Yeah. Well, and so, and when it winds up doing, and then you, when you introduce the vaccine part, Trump's still claiming credit for it, even though almost all its supporters are dubious about it. And you had the death rate. It gets to the, it really, one of the most, I think one of the biggest stories in the history of humanity,

when the insurance industry starts complaining that, you know, the death rate went up 40% in 2021, people in the industry will tell you, if it went up 5%, it would be unprecedented. 40% is earth-shattering. It's unexplainable. Even if you take all the phony numbers, the ridiculous, contrived COVID numbers, even if you accepted all that nonsense, that all the people falling off routes and stuff were actually COVID, and they did put it in the number, it still would

be a drop in the bucket. It would be a fraction of a 40% death increase. But we know it's there. As Dr. Peter McCullough said on my show, there's only one thing that's been introduced that's different, and that's the vaccine. So now you're left with children with myocarditis who we never even heard of before. They have little kids. They have crash carts in elementary schools.

Parents are being told this is normal. Your kid could have a heart attack. Obviously. So it's the lie has transitioned into that. And the people that bought the first lie, even though they've had, I know people that have, you know, eight shots. They're still getting so-called COVID. You try to talk to them. If you talk about faith.

Well, it's harder to tell somebody that they've been fooled than it is to fool somebody, isn't it? That's the old adage. But when you look at this, it truly is amazing what they have been able to pull on people. And it is truly amazing how difficult it is to pull this thing back. And that's why the book that you wrote, Masking the Truth, How COVID-19 Destroyed

Civil Liberties and Shut Down the World, that's very important. We cannot let them just walk away from what they did. There has to be an understanding of this. There has to be a remembrance of what they have done. We need to have a Memorial Day holiday for the people that were just killed in this war that we all just went through. Very cynical move for power by every political party,

regardless of whether stated philosophy is or who is there. It's one of the most, you know, and of course they're not done, you know, they're going to be ramping this up. And so that's why it's important for us to dismantle this. I think we've got some momentum on our side,

but it's something that we've got to double down. People need to educate themselves about it. That's why this book is a good Masking the Truth, Donald Jeffries. Get the information so that you are armed with this. Be skeptical of the government. That is the key thing coming out of all this. Understand they've got a different agenda. They don't think like you. It's hard to think like a psychopath, like a sociopath, like a mass murder, and that's what these people are. So you got to hold them at arm's length and hold them accountable and, and know what they did to you. Thank you, Don. It's great talking to you. Thanks for having me, David. Appreciate it.

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