The David Knight Show - INTERVIEW Navy SEAL Warns: Communism Reborn in America

Episode Date: March 15, 2024

Former Navy SEAL and Instructor looks at the Ukraine war and asks — is the Ukraine war another attack on our food supply? It is (was) the bread basket of EuropeDrago Dzieran was born and grew up in Poland under Russian communism — where he learned to love liberty and America.  When he escaped to America, he eventually became a Navy SEAL and SEAL instructor. But Drago is very concerned that the country he loves is turning into the Marxist totalitarianism he escaped.  He tells us why and we discuss his story, told in "The Pledge to America: One Man's Journey from Political Prisoner to US Navy SEAL".Find out more about the show and where you can watch it at TheDavidKnightShow.comIf you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-showOr you can send a donation throughMail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @[e-mail] App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Money is only what YOU hold: Go to DavidKnight.gold for great deals on physical gold/silverFor 10% off Gerald Celente's prescient Trends Journal, go to TrendsJournal.com and enter the code KNIGHTBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.

My father was a high-ranking communist in Poland, in Polish government, but I really didn't have much contact with him until I was 16 years old because of the poverty. I had to be sent either to orphanage or to live with my father, and eventually father agreed to take me in. I lasted there only one year before he kicked me out, but by this time, my ideals were shaped by my mother by my mother's family and uh so when i went up there the first question i asked him like so if uh if everybody loves socialism so much which i don't see among my friends but as my father but what about those people who do not support socialism and communism what about them well the answer was very quick and simple we need to eliminate them so and the way we say how well the first we're gonna ban them we're gonna cancel them we're gonna remove them from society basically intellectually so it happened you know the

statues were removed that did not support socialist ideology the books were removed libraries and banned um but uh but that's why i said well okay but what if they still don't like uh socialism well that is the final solution then you're not just physically exterminate them because they are in the way to uh of progress to socialism and communists they are such a great states so that was his ideas my father's ideas that you know you you you try to convince them but if they don't buy it you arrest them cancel them put them in jails and eventually that doesn't have you just kill them. All right, welcome back.

And joining us now is Drago. And as his Navy SEAL name, very interesting background. I've had him on before. We talked about his book, Pledge to America. He came to this country from Poland. And today we're going to talk about some other issues besides his background story. But his background story is truly amazing, how he came to America, how he volunteered after 9-11, and how he, at a pretty old age for Navy SEALs, became a Navy SEAL and then continued as an instructor for quite a while. So joining us now is Drago. Thank you for joining us,

sir. Thank you for inviting me oh always always a pleasure to talk to you a very interesting story I loved your story and I loved your pledge to America uh let's talk a little bit we we talked for a great deal of time you said yeah I'd like to talk about what is really happening uh now in America we talked about your background you said I'd like to talk about what is going on now. And of course, a lot of things have happened since you've been on. I would like to get your take on, you know, what are the key issues in front of us right now when we look at something, for example, like Ukraine? How are you looking at this war now? We've got so many people have said, well, just let me get your take on it. What is your take on what's going on with Ukraine?

Well, first, our administration needs to stop lying to us. Russians are not losing the war. It's ridiculous. Ridiculing Russian forces is totally misplaced now. It is the worst propaganda that is outright stupid. You know, we have generals, our generals, repeating stories like the Russians don't know that they are in the war, in combat. They think that the command told them that they are going on exercise,

and they are on exercise. You know what? Only imbeciles could do that. This is being repeated by not only generals but our press from the left and right that's that's absolutely not true and uh russians know very well what they are what they are doing it is pretty deliberate they're not trying to take over at this time entire ukraine They just want to secure their interest. But we need to understand that Putin is not some kind of rogue idiot

and somebody who doesn't know what he's doing. Yeah, that's our guy. Please remember this. That's our guy who doesn't know what he's doing an idiot so yeah i'm sorry go ahead you you know that hey i wouldn't tell our guys but you know it seems like they know what they do they just lie to us uh and basically they ruin entire they ruin ukraine with the stupid advices or stupid moves up there. Please remember, Putin almost single-handedly rebuilt the Russian Empire.

He is supported by 80% of his population. And also what we are not being told, or we are ignored, that Russia is no longer a communist state. They have the same oligarchs like we have here, like we have Romney, like we have John Kerry. That's not different. So that war did not have to happen, and President Trump is absolutely right. But when we start talking about Ukraine membership in NATO, of course, Russians don't want to have NATO directly on their borders. So that was one of the accelerators to the war. And then please remember there was an agreement signed between Ukraine and Russia and then Great Britain that idiot, what's his name?

Joe. Boris Johnson. Yeah. So that buzzer when India cancelled everything for Ukraine and Russia. So now we are in war. But again, Russians are not losing. Please remember that Ukrainians lost over 400,000 people in combat. For a small nation, this is not really something that you can ignore. That's right. And so now, today, the average age ofian soldier is between 40 and 50 years old you see i went to the region quite a few times so and i had a chance to spoke to my ukrainian friends i

had a chance to speak to i had a chance to speak to my ukrainian friends polish friends germans french french uh and and the consensus people who are there who understand what's going on is we are in the wrong place and wrong time. I agree. At the very beginning of this, you talked about how many Ukrainian casualties they had. I remember at the very beginning of this, there was some Indian generals who were talking about the military aspects of it and they weren't on either side really they were just kind of third party observers they said it looks like the plan is to fight them until the last ukrainian and that appears to be the plan uh they don't they're using these people as surrogates we had chris christie when he was running he said well i think that's fine uh you know look at how how much we've cost the russians

i think we need to double down and do even more of this stuff. I mean, it's like they have absolutely no regard for human life. They have absolutely no concern about a broader escalated war. And I think... This administration, with their advisors and with their ideas, ruin Ukraine. Please remember the Soviet Union is no longer a socialist state. They kicked out communism to the curb a long time ago. Now there is a large contribution to this is coming from President Putin. He basically made Russians free again. Yes, there will be always 5 to 15% of society, just like in our society, that will oppose and they will revolt and they will not agree with what I'm saying. But in general, he's supported by almost or over 80% of his population. And you can see it. Russians love their country.

What we must also remember, which is very important, and I think it is very important, that Russians are very patriotic. Yes. They, yes. Their idea in their society is Russia first.

Well, here you try to say America first you you see what happened yeah this is how upwards it is and this is why we just trying to bring NATO into this conflict now now I think it's totally ridiculous and seems like this administration is gunning for the war for the major wider war sending troops Ukraine right now is basically fighting by our regular units fighting Russians and that this will lead to to escalations and they will lead to major war not only your in Europe but it might just we might have funds attacked on our own soil. So we need to understand that. And again, Russians don't hate their country. Yeah, yeah.

Russians love their country. And this is something Biden administration doesn't want people to know. That's right. And the other thing about this conflict is food control, food supplies. Please remember that Ukraine is known as a breadbasket of Europe. These fertile grounds can feed entire Europe and still with so much surplus that is being sent to Africa. So I'll look at some of the statistics here. And most of these lands are no longer owned by Ukrainians.

They're owned by Western entities. So somebody is vying for control of the food supplies in Europe. So let's take a look here. The Kernel company, registered in Luxembourg, owns 360,000 hectares. Not acres, hectares. The company is owned by 90% by Oligarch, I think, Wierenski, his name, and other US banks and funds. Ukrland Farming.

No one knows who owns it, but there is almost 670,000 acres. Nobody knows really who owns it because all financial data and servers were destroyed mhp cyprus company with 340 000 hectares tna corporation corporate u.s company with 200 000 hectares nch company u.s company with 200 000 hectares, PIF Saudi Arabia, Estrata Holland from Holland. So most of the majority of profit does not go to Kiev. It goes, it's being transferred overseas. if ukraine would join uh western uh would come in closer ties with western countries those land would be controlled not by ukrainians but would be controlled by whoever is trying to gain control of food supply food supplies for europe but you can just see how this structure that the ukrainians don't own it anymore most of it's owned by overseas and profit goes overseas again we are president biden i was listening to his

disastrous state of the union and he says we need to send money more money to ukraine that's that's only imbecile can say because not understanding that ukraine needs not so much money as people to fight the war yeah i guess like i said earlier they they their average age of uh the average age of ukrainian soldiers between 40 50 years old they don't have enough. They are actually snatching people over the street and pulling them in the army, kids, old people. So the average between 50 and 60, so think who is that? That's just a medium.

What's the oldest people right now snatched into the army and serving. So the equipment, even if they get it, they don't have people to operate this, unless this is Western entities that comes in and there. And hopefully they are not the regular forces, because it will escalate. Putin is not bluffing.

We are. Yeah, that's right. We have nothing to bug us up. We cannot sustain prolonged expanded deployment to europe we can barely barely sustain what we have now and now please remember too that our recruitment is down and there were the people are army it is not only army that we there was so widely publicized but it's also in the navy and air forces in marines so now we have one side with very patriotic pro pro for their country people

like russians who will not back down and then we have here people who refuse to fight for our country because they were told in universities and schools that we are racist we are bad, we shouldn't exist and the division which was created recently within the last 4, 8, 10 years

dividing us again between black and white and between this between that you know what I remember when I joined the Navy between black and white and between this, between that. You know what? I remember when I joined the Navy, the first thing that we were told is that we all have one color. It is red, white, and blue.

We don't look at each other in black, white, yellow, pink. We just wear red, white, and blue. This is the color of our hearts. And we have only one country. So now, think about it. I don't think it's very strong now because we have in our Congress, we have people who have no loyalty or double loyalty. They have loyalty to America and Somalia or other countries yeah why we have people with dual citizenship in our government yes that's what i'm saying we need to ask ourselves and you look at what is

happening at west point i talked about this yesterday they want to get rid of duty honor and country and it's like what's wrong with those three things right we're going to replace with army values and and one of the things that they say and that is well um you know even more as much as the duty honor country is the fact that the original uh pledge or what motto whatever it was but it was a paragraph that they had this the uh cadets memorized and in it they were saying service to our country you know in the army and that through the army or whatever now it is service to the army and to our country whatever so it's more focused on this bureaucratic institution than it is on serving the country to me that is as significant as the fact that you'd remove duty honor and

country i mean what what which of those words or is it all three that they object to i'm not really sure there's a trend i think everybody can see it now that's right all the universities and even the academies yeah yeah remove any national collision collisions remove any patriotic feelings basically what i think ultimate goal is just what happened in europe and i'll just come back to it in a second, to get rid of the citizenship, rid of national pride. And basically we're just dwellers. So we will not be Americans living in America, we will be just the dwellers living in America. And when I had a conversation with a German friend, so when we talked, I said, well, so you Germans, it's like, don't say, don't call us Germans. This is offensive. I'm European. I'm a member of European Union.

German is a right-wing propaganda and right-wing term. So you must not call me a German. I'm offended. So, yeah. But you see our direction with this going here? Pretty much the same thing. So this administration is disastrous. But I would like to say, because it really bothers me

when I look at my country my America I see that never in the history of civilization has a nation declined more economically politically, socially militarily, immorally and globally over such

short span of time as the United States of america signs biden to goffy's i mean think what is happening we have a perverts in our schools pole dancing to our kids and reading them books in schools and libraries perverts pornographic books yes and if you speak out against it, you are the extremist. Exactly. And you have a man masquerading as women

frequenting our daughter's wife's bathrooms. You know, stripes on the zebra doesn't make you the horse. You can put wig and lipstick on yourself. You are still a man man you still have x there are difference between xx and xy chromosomes you can't transmute one into another so you're

either where man woman you cannot there is no such thing like transitioning you don't transition to anything you just wear the wig and lipstick that's it it. That's right. And want us to believe that you are a woman. You know, it becomes so perverted and so sick that nowadays, young generations, boy, at least I teach my son, before you start dating a girl, you need to ask, have you always been a girl? Because people might find out that that is not the case, and you just ruin your life. Yeah.

So, somebody wants to... See, I fought for this right. If a man wants to go and wear the dress, lipstick, and wig, call himself a woman, more power to him. I don't really care, you know? But start harassing my kids in the bathroom yeah when he when then when we start pushing the mutilation on our children and and the the surgeries yeah the sex change and life altering surgeries that's evil that's pure evil so so and it is interesting i

just talked about it yesterday the the suicide rates double after their what they call their vaginoplasty and everything and and that was part of the rationale for taking away parental rights uh well we're gonna do and you know the the parental rights attack has been there for a very long time it was nearly 20 years ago. I was doing videos for the Children's Health Defense Organization as a spinoff called ParentalRights.org. And they were trying to get in a constitutional amendment for parental rights because the UN had a convention on the rights of the child and every other country on earth had signed on to it except for the United States. But in the United States, it was being pushed through with activist judges and at some local political levels.

And that didn't happen. But now it is happening. You know, that has been there cooking under the surface. And they've been kind of subtly preparing things. And now all of a sudden, boom, it burst onto the scene in a very rapid expansion. And it's been there for quite some time. They've been talking about, you know, all this, even going back before the rhetoric of Hillary Clinton and it takes a village.

They've been working for decades on undermining parental rights because they wanted to get it straight to the kids. It is one step at a time. But you see what happened, the whole process accelerated because these goons, that cabal was exposed by President Trump. They don't have much time. People are waking up. So they need to do as much damage as possible, damage that may not be able to undo. And again, this is not Democrats versus Republicans and vice versa.

This is good versus evil. We have plenty of evil in both parties for example murkowski roomie lee's cheney that dude swallow well sleeping with chinese spy with the prostitutes yeah uh and he's still in our government yeah so we have a... For me, he is as good as a spy, you know? So Swallow Bell, who sleeps with the Chinese spies, prostitutes, we have a Schumer, we have jihadists in our Congress like Omar and Tlaib. We cannot move forward to fix our country until as long as we tolerate evil. And those are evil people. There's more of them.

I agree. before we get any further i want to talk to you about the border and things like that but before we leave uh europe and ukraine you know we've looked at this and from the very beginning um i was saying at gerald slenty's a regular on the program was saying you're not going to beat russia i mean they defeated napoleon they defeated hitler and that wasn't that long ago. And as you're talking about, it's a gigantic country. People are very patriotic. They're very happy with the changes that Putin has made. And so you're not going to be able to defeat them and that type of thing.

But, you know, is it your judgment that this is a deliberate setup, a deliberate provocation? Because three years before this began uh you had an interview with and of course this all really kind of goes back to the coup in 2014 but you know zielinski ran for on a platform of peace and he had a guy i don't know if you're familiar with him alexander arestovich and he was eventually kicked out because one of these bombs that hit an apartment building, he said, well, he told the truth. He said, no, it was hit by some of our anti-aircraft stuff.

And then it veered into the building. It wasn't necessarily a target of this thing. And so they fired him. But he was also very candid three years in advance he was their guy they sent to the peace process and he came back and did an interview with ukrainian television and she said what's the prospect for peace he said none oh that's terrible he goes oh it gets worse uh we're going to have a full-on war with russia in three years in 2022 and she said that's horrible and he goes yeah the whole the whole country is going to be

devastated but he goes the good part of it is we get into nato it seems to me looking at it i'd like to get your take on it it seems to me like this was a long-term plan that they had and what do you think is their plan to continue to escalate this so they can have a direct war with russia do they really want a world war what do you think i don't think there was a plant at the time the time you mentioned there to to start a war with Russia I think there was just try to bring Ukraine into NATO and they knew that the Russia will oppose so they there was just try to do to backdoor to different ways of basically the the our administration and Western and Western Europe instigate this entire affair they wanted to bring and they were hoping that it can blow off and they can scare Russia and they can bring Ukraine in the world didn't happen Russia went and took it

what they believed that's please see now I mean they are in a state of war. Ukraine is not joining NATO. It's not going to join NATO unless we start a full-scale war with Russia. And Russia is no longer that backwards communist state it used to be. We will be fighting very modern, well-equipped Russia, and we are not prepared. Look at our forces. Now, they are more concerned with the perverts in the military. They are more concerned with pronouns than with our fighting force. I mean, we are disintegrating. Yeah.

Oh, yeah, and that officer, the space cadet who was saying, we've got to get our pronouns right just a couple of weeks ago it truly is ludicrous and yet you know they talk about the domino theory and yet if you're the russian people you're the russian side you look at all these different countries that are coming in and joining nato and uh you know they're adding more that haven't done ukraine yet you know they've added what more. They haven't done Ukraine yet, but, you know, they've added, what was it, Finland and Sweden and things like that. You look at it and it's like, well, that looks like a domino theory. It looks like, you know, it looks like somebody is on the move and somebody is getting aggressive.

And it's like, what is even the message, the meaning of NATO before this, all this stuff began? I mean, is there really, why did they need to even continue nato and why are they expanding nato so rapidly what do you think i don't think nato may survive this escalation here they're not necessarily even the war because what i suspect what is going to happen the russians just get tired they still try to make uh they try to negotiate that's true they still try to make it somehow amicable well it is not it's not going to happen under this administration so russia's finally say they will get tired they will just take what they need to

take we are bluffing we will not be able to do anything up there. So I think we are in a very bad spot. But please remember, this is the same cabal. I'm talking about this administration. This is the same cabal that gave us Benghazi. Oh, yeah. They murdered our ambassador. They killed two of my teammates. This is the same

cabal that fled Afghanistan. They fled in such a hurry. They left thousands of our and allied citizens in Taliban hands. This is the same cabal trying to manage Ukraine.

It's a joke. about it who is running our country we have a mentally impaired man who is being led and guided by his wife because he cannot make up the stage you think he's making any shots exactly exactly you know it is not fun to laugh at our president but it is quite and this quiet sad that this elder with serious mental deficiency is being abused by his nefarious wife and his handlers to those who enable it they should be prosecuted for elder abuse this man doesn't belong in the White House he belongs in the some facility

care facility for elderly people now this is how bad it is so you know it's just I think we need we need a change we need a real leadership in our country we need to go back to our values. Patriotism is nothing wrong with being patriotic American, but we are being now portrayed as the right-wing crazies you know if you are pro-america if you tell yourself proud american citizen you are being called crazy and right-wing extremists i mean think about parents demanding real education

for kids are being branded fbi as criminals you know as weaponization of our state entities, that's not different than the country I escaped from. This is the same thing. They will intimidate, they will raid your families, your home, because you are inconvenient politically to the state, to the system. I mean, we need to wake up because we are going the same path that russia went in 1917 the bolshevik revolution i agree so we are a dangerous spot we should worry less about ukraine and there's more about our southern border because um it's just it it it is crazy this is yeah let's talk about that let's let's talk about the border i'll just say this you know it's kind of like a lot of these things.

Sometimes there is a silver lining. You know, we had all the schools locked down and kids were doing Zoom class and everything. Finally, we got a chance for parents to actually see what was going on in their classroom. I've had that conversation with people for 30 years and telling them what's happening. Oh, but that's not in our school. They could believe that it was coming out of the federal government they could believe that it was even a state government or or the that school board or whatever even maybe even in the same school but i got a good teacher in my classroom well the zoom stuff they could finally see that and the thing

about biden i guess a silver lining for biden is people can look at biden and they can understand the president's not the one who's running the show there's somebody behind him you know who are these people really who is the shadow government that's really running the the show here you know because it certainly isn't joe biden so that's that's the only possibly good thing that come out of this is that that kind of dispel that idea from people uh that he the one in charge. There is a cabal, like you pointed out, and it's the same people that gave us Benghazi and the disaster in Afghanistan and all these other things. But let's talk about it.

Sorry? In the disaster in Ukraine, this disaster in Ukraine is not only a disaster for us and Western Europe, it's a disaster for Ukraine and even more. Because I don't know if this nation will be able to rebuild itself after what this administration did to it. Yes, yes. And again, that's another part of it. You know, when I look at something like this and you could look at the fact that you've

got all of these big corporations that are mysteriously operating, as you point out, we don't even know who has the the second largest uh holding there but um you know so so what is their goal is it just really to uh get monopoly pricing on this stuff and yet if that really was their goal why are they having this war on this farmland there especially when you have the possibility of having cluster bombs or you have depleted uranium which pollutes the the forever, basically. Why would you destroy? It seems to me like there's also an aspect of trying to destroy that farmland.

And it seems to me like a lot of these globalist cabals want to, just as they do in the Netherlands, they want to destroy the farms. They want to take them by putting the farmers off the land they want to come you know consolidate everybody in the little cities and uh control the food distribution all the rest perhaps that's uh what do you is that like a motivation for what's going on in ukraine as well do you think well it's not only in ukraine is our in our country too in america western europe and in ukraine too ukraine is the most important part for them because the the the entire uh fertile lands in western europe do not match the ukrainian fertile lines the the

the biggest i think food supply for entire europe and africa so yeah they want to take control of it i don't know why they're ruining destroying it or just having a bit but this is not good and this is the same thing is happening in our country too you can see chinese people i mean chinese citizens buying our lands farmlands as also our oligarchs too so and destruction of food uh infrastructure just like we saw in texas you know and all these other things happening uh and and so much of that stuff is happening. You have to ask yourself, is this a coincidence or is this a plan? Because they really do want to control our food supply and they want us buying their lab food that they are going to take control of and deliver to us as they see fit to do it.

I think that's a big part of it. But let's talk about what's going on at the border, especially. Why isn't it that you've got all these all these people and i look i get very frustrated i hear the republicans talking about it but they don't build the wall they don't finish the wall and then even when we look at what is happening in texas uh it is one city you know eagle pass they've got a big presence there but you just go you know not even a mile away from it many reporters have gone and there's nothing there and there's wide open areas where anybody can come in so there's a lot of theater that's going on with all this stuff what do you think it's going to take to get this done get

control of the board well before we think about what can be done let's just try to think ask the questions why it is being done yeah um i believe that ballot stuffing may not work this time the covet virus may not work this time for democrats or for the cabal behind this uh behind it uh for water fraud may not work so the borders were open to the hordes the new scheme is to count non-citizens, I call them Biden's invaders, for congressional seats and electoral votes. Democrats are also working to give Biden's invaders voting rights. Yes. So they count them as part of the census and then do the allocation for that. And so if they bring them in to these particular states, then all of a sudden they can inflate the number of congressmen coming from

that state and they can pack the Congress. That's one way to do it. They always want to do that. FDR wanted to pack the Supreme court. These people are talking about packing the Supreme court. Well, they can pack the Congress as well and they can use foreign citizens here illegally to do that.

Yes. And again, as I have seen in the communist country I escaped from once socialists around the country once they have established fraudulent elections you will continue to have fraudulent elections because state entities will be like they are here now being weaponized targeting political opponents we see what is happening to president trump right now i mean in my opinion there is a bimbo a prostitute who doesn't even remember when she was assaulted and how it happened and she won what million dollar law millions dollar lawsuit there's not the criminal case so he's not that he's

but but she she wanted money for for what She doesn't even remember what happened. But this is how perverted it became eventually. And this is just the beginning of starting the socialist way of thinking. Yeah. I think everybody sees that it is a selective prosecution on these cases, that it is politicized, that, you know, they have committed, in many cases, committed the same crimes, and there's not anything brought against them. So we understand this is a specialized, it's not even really a prosecution, it's a persecution. They've taken the blindfold off

of Lady Justice, and they're using laser focus to come after somebody that they believe is their political enemy. But that is happening to a lot of people, and there's so many different areas where this is happening, especially in speech and censorship. You're seeing people now in Europe being sent to prison. In Canada, they've got a bill to send people perhaps even to life in prison because of speech issues and to do it before they say anything. Do it in a pre-crime way. I mean, it truly is amazing. There's so many different, it's like shock and awe when I look at it, you know, hitting us with everything all at once everywhere to take away every foundation of the Bill of Rights and everything else that Western civilization has had

and built over millennia. See, Socialist Democratic Party right now is turning our country into something I escaped from. And you can talk, if you listen to immigrants who escape the totalitarian socialist countries, they are alarmed. I mean, on my account on LinkedIn, which is heavily censored, of course, or Facebook, heavily censored, I have people calling me and messaging me that they are scared because this is what they experience in former communist countries.

Because, you know, the goal, I think, is not to make America a communist state. But please remember that socialism and communism are excellent tools to control society. So why not to implement? I mean, it will not succeed on the long run. And it takes decades, but it takes decades to free yourself from the yoke of communism and socialism, if even possible. Because if the technology that exists today

existed in 1980s and 70s when i lived in a communist country these countries would stay communist yeah people would not be themselves and i think that's their plan i think i think if they're they're looking at you know where if you look at strauss and how people on this show, I talk about a great deal. The people who coined the term millennial or Gen Z and all this, everybody uses those terms, but they don't talk about the big picture that they were talking about, which is every four generations you have, the institutions are completely changed. It's almost always, well, it is always massive economic change, and it is usually accompanied with war. And then you wind up with a society that, whether it's good or bad, the change, usually wind up with that for about 70 years. I think these people are expecting, you know, we're in that time right now. We're in the middle of a fourth generation where everything is turning.

I think they believe that if they win this, they're going to be able to hold on to it longer than that with the tools that they've got. And as you point out, the people who have lived in it, they're sounding the alarm. Rod Dreher wrote a book a few years ago saying, Live Not By Lies, which he quoted from Alexander Solzhenitsyn. He said, the reason I wrote this book is because I had friends whose parents escaped communism and they were freaking out. And they said, we're seeing exactly the same stuff we lived under i talked to shivan fleet who got out of china she grew out grew up in china

and she said all the same stuff that's being done in the schools now she goes it's not woke it's marxism and she wrote a book mouse america survivors warning to america she said the the anti-racism that you see she said that was struggle sessions is what they called it in China. But it's exactly the same thing. And so they're using these same techniques because they work. It's just that simple. But they're going to also have the technology as a multiplier as well. Yeah, absolutely. my intention was to showcase America as the most beautiful powerful unique exceptional country with

free and free country so now but as a I wanted this book to be used as a press to see America this way to write the prism of socialism and communist how oppressive the socialism really is but now when people read it like i get also a lot of messages say hey what you describe in your book isn't something that's happening here in our country now yeah yes it is this is what really disturbs me it really sometimes scares me too so um again we are not socialist communists yet we just need to make we don't become one and this is why the the processes are accelerating because there is a man who exposed all these shenigans and they may not have much time because once people see what it really is, nobody will follow it. And even now, you know,

majority of our people do not support that socialist oppression, do not support communism. But we are being told by the manipulative fake news media that majority of people would like to have that socialist state, which is absolutely not true.

But the same thing happened in communist Poland, where there's maybe 10% of people, hardcore communists like my father, but the rest of the people love and hate communism and socialism. But when you read the fake news media in Poland, the communist times behind Iron Curtain, you would think that majority of Poles are loving that socialism and communism, because this is the way the propaganda works. This is why censorship is so important to. Oh, yeah.

We saw that a lot in 2020. You know, there were a lot of us, at least a third of us, who didn't want the mask, didn't want the lockdown, weren't afraid of the so-called pandemic and all the rest of the stuff. But we were led to believe that we were had as vestia and pravda and they one of them meant news the other one meant truth and they said there's no uh truth in pravda there's no news in this vestia the people were not really fooled by it but they felt helpless and they really couldn't do anything about it and that's what solzhenitsyn would talk about in your experience you're you're growing up and you're a young person in poland your dad is a communist uh what was it that uh gave you the courage uh to go against this grain rather than just going along you see i'm saying my father was a high-ranking communist uh in poland in

polish government but i really didn't have much contact with him until I was 16 years old because of the poverty. I had to be sent either to orphanage or to live with my father. Eventually, father agreed to take me and I lasted only one year before he kicked me out. But by this time, my ideals were shaped shaped by my mother by my mother's family and uh so when i went up there the first question i asked him like so if uh if everybody loves socialism so much which i don't see among my friends but as my father but what about those people who do not support socialism and communism? What about them? Well, the answer was very quick and simple. We need to eliminate them. And the way we say how? Well, the first, we're going to ban them.

We're going to cancel them. We're going to remove them from society, basically intellectually. So it happened. The statues were removed that did not support socialist ideology. The statues were removed that did not support socialist ideology the books were removed libraries and banned um but uh but that's why i said well okay but what did they still don't like socialism well that is the final solution then we're not just physically exterminate them because they are in the way to of progress to socialism and communism they're such a great states so that was his ideas my father's ideas that you know you you you try to convince them but if they don't buy it you arrest them cancel them put them in jails and eventually that doesn't

help you just kill them yeah and that's what we're seeing now with the the speech stuff you know it's been we've been shadow banned, we were overtly banned, and then now they are publicly humiliated. Now they want to start putting people in jail, and they are putting people in jail. Sorry? We have political prisoners

today. These people sitting in the Democrats' dungeons in Washington, D.C. are just political prisoners like i was in communist state uh please remember one thing it is so vain the i mean i don't know even how they sold it to people governments cannot be overthrown by people waving hands and flags yeah and they tend to tell us that there was attempt there was coup attempt and try to overthrow government our government by who people waving flags yes oh yeah oh yeah there

was absolutely there was no way they were going i i told people i said don't go as a trap because there's nothing you can do and you know they're not going to show up with weapons and have a shootout and they didn't show up with weapons. And yet now they're going to prison because they construed it as if they had shown up with weapons or something. And it's the power of the press to be able to spin a media, and it is this government that we have that is absolutely unashamed to openly violate the constitution of the rule of law absolutely let me tell you this that president trump by questioning election results didn't commit any crime most of people in our country now question these results 81 million people for mentally deficient men who never even campaigned? I don't buy it. I don't believe it. For me, these elections in 2020 had all the hallmarks of socialist election. Socialist election, this term is not very well understood here. It's not very common, but it's very well

understood in former communist countries. Socialist elections are the elections where communists and Marxists always win. Those are what we call socialist elections. And these elections 2020 had all the hallmarks of socialist elections. Questioning and challenging the results of elections is not a crime. It is only a crime in communist countries

or Nazi, fascist countries and countries run by communists like my father. So saying that we have an insurrection is a hoax, is another hoax and is a nonsense. I've seen insurrections i've been i live in poland when the czechoslovakia 1968 happened that was tanks and guns being used yeah people flags waving hands uh with american flags and waving hands cannot overthrow our government it's a hoax yeah they very carefully controlled the videos that they released to to make it uh you know who did the first shoving you know because that's what it's fistfights and stuff like that so who shoved first and they controlled uh that that completely uh even that you compare it to to Portland or other cities when Democrats unleashed their terror groups

like Antifa, Black Lives Matter, on our society. They burned entire cities, they murdered people. This is we're talking about the riots. But there was not even the riots. People, if you look at the videos, the recently released videos, you can see police guiding people around the capital people people saying walking there yeah some misbehave but you know what that that will

always happen they will always please also remember that this crowd was infiltrated by state entities who did instigated what what i I believe failed on January 6th, the biggest failure was Democrats being unable to instigate widespread mayhem and violence. And that didn't happen, so that kind of put off a lot of their ideas, what they want to do. But I believe their ideas was the ones. And it's interesting that they're escalating the arrests now because they just come after a reporter for The Blaze who was there as a reporter.

I mean, clearly he's, you know, but of course, if you don't have the right, if you don't have part of the First Amendment to assemble and redress your grievances, you don't have the right to report either. Right. So they're coming after him. They just arrested him, took him off in handcuffs. One of the people that I used to work with, Sam Montoya, they arrested him and he was doing journalist work. You know, he was there and he didn't push or shove anybody.

We've seen three guys that I talked about, two elderly guys, and one of them was a son of one of the two guys. They're in their early 70s. They just walked up to the police and said, can I use the restroom? They said, yeah, it's right around here. They're charging them. I want to give them a five-year jail sentence. It is absolutely absurd.

And I guess here's my question for you. What do you think is really behind all this? Because everybody sees the absurdity of this. Are they doing this to provoke? Are they doing this in election year to provoke? There is a small loyal base to them that eats all this stuff up, just accepts it, whatever the mainstream media says to them. But for most people, I think they look at this and they say,

this is really over the top as we're talking about. Do they want to do that? Is this another provocation trying to provoke something? What do you think? I don't believe so so but i think they are not afraid of it uh their goal is to terrorize the society into submission and if you start you know i i know this from my experience in communist state in communist country behind the iron curtain it starts big of course so now we have a president trump being attacked uh by uh by this administration now we have a citizens being attacked more prominent citizens but please remember once once they are done with them the next is you in line so if uh if

for right now i can say whatever i want to say but uh pretty soon for what i'm saying now i may be looking over my shoulder because uh the the way the socialism works oh yeah tell me about it. Yeah, I know. Yeah, exactly. Socialism is socialism, whether it is Hitler's socialism, national socialism, Joseph Stalin's socialism, Polish, at the time, socialism in my father and communists in Poland called it Polish socialism, democratic socialism and we know how many of their thousands people are dead just in poland not talking about other democratic socialist countries in eastern europe so socialism is socialism and they all have many things in common like censorship persecution of political opponents political prisoners and even kill political assassinations, killing more inconvenient people to the state. So we need to be careful. I see a lot of enamoration in our younger generation with socialism. They try to differentiate what socialism is, not the communism. Well, it's not as bad yet, but it's the stepping stone to socialism. We're told in our schools in Poland and in Eastern Europe

that socialism is the stepping stone to communism. Society needs to be prepared to accept the values, the moral values of communism, so that socialism allows this gradual transition into full communism. God help us. I agree. Yeah, whenever they sell us socialism, it's always a common thing, into full communism. God help us. I agree. Yeah, whenever they sell us socialism,

it's always a common thing, is always the superiority of the collective to the individual, the superiority of the state. And we saw that in spades throughout 2020. Your health doesn't matter. You're going to do what we say to say, you've got to take a vaccine so you can save everybody else,

all that type of stuff. So that is a key part of it. But I think the solution for this stuff is uh books like yours you know the the pledge to america where you talk about you have a very compelling story your experience with the navy seals and it gives people an opportunity to and you're growing up in a communist country and people can look at that and say wow that looks like what they're doing here just like uh know, all the different testimonies that we see of people who escaped communism. They know what it was like. They can smell it a mile away. And they're warning us. And people need to see these compelling personal stories about how people have escaped this. I think it's very important. And I've got, let me get your comment on this, Drago. This last week, I think we had a victory of some sort in Ireland. You had the progressives, they thought they had everybody on the run. They were able to modify the constitution,

get abortion put in there, or at least stop the prohibition of abortion in the constitution. So then they came back and they decided that they were going to essentially attack motherhood and the family, redefine all of that in the Constitution. And they got slapped down overwhelmingly, about just under 70% on one of the issues and almost three quarters on the other issue. People didn't want to have it. And I think that's one of the key things. I think that's a key thing in your story. Because as you point out, you know, your mother was the influence on you. And we've lost the importance. And that's one of the things that was in the Irish Constitution, the important function of a mother, the important function of a family to shape a society where people have a good life. And I think that was a situation with you,

tell me if I'm mistaken, but we used to talk about the hand that rocks the cradle rules the world. And so in these socialist countries, in this country, Biden wants to give free preschool care. They want to raise your kids and they're going to pay for it. We need to take that responsibility away from the state you know, preschool care. They want to raise your kids, and they're going to pay for it. We need to take that responsibility away from the state,

and we need to reassert the importance of the family, the importance of the mother. And I think that's the key thing. That's why I ask you, you know, what was it that turned you around? And it seems like it was your mother, those who were close to you. You weren't close to your father, the communist, but you were close to those who had a different take on this. What do you think? Is that really what we need to focus on building the family and building those relationships what do you think you see what turned me around i think this is a good lesson

for everybody here too there's the power of socialist state and the control they have over our children that we need to take it back here but what happened to me is when i said something in my fifth grade it was about the Russian language I didn't want to learn Russian language I was not the best student in the class and and I for me the additional Russian language was just another homework I had to do at home so I just piped up at school openly teacher why do they teach us Russian language, the Russian, the oppressor of Poland. This is the way Poles understood the scene of Russian crime. So

that was like, I didn't think much of it, but immediately I was the teacher woke up to me, grabbed me by my ear. Those are methods that all schools, I guess, in Poland and the world, pulled me by the ear out of the class to the school principal. And they called police. They called police. So the police, before they came to school, when my mother was a teacher in a different school, they picked her up, they detained her, and they handcuffed her.

They brought her to my school, they shut us down and there was a two I think two uniformed officers and two secret police officers and they interrogated us and then they made it pretty clear that

if this incident like this repeats itself, if I'm speaking up about socialism in not positive manner, I will be removed from my mom and placed in orphanage, the government orphanage, that I will be taught properly. So that was one of the things that made me think and of course scared my mother. And then other experiences within my family when

stayed when and destroyed my uncle's business because he was working too hard and was competing with uh government businesses and with the business owned by communist cronies so not only destroyed his business they almost killed him so that and this is who told me how to listen to radio free europe radio voice of america and this is where i started learning about the real polish history because it was so falsified please remember after second world war when communists were brought on russian bayonets to Poland. To Poland, we had the statues were removed

that were not aligned with socialism. The books were removed from libraries. And I didn't know about it. I learned about it later on. And that's what people need to understand. People need to understand how parallel all of that stuff is.

Again, the book is The Pledge to America. Thank you so much for joining us, Drago. And Adrago, rather. And pronounce your last name there. People probably won't be able to spell. But if they get D-R-A-G-O and The Pledge to America, they'll be able to find that book, right? They'll be able to find it, yes. They'll be able to find it. And. They'll be able to find it.

And we've got your website. It's been up there the entire time. So people will be able to find your website as well. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you so much for speaking out and trying to educate people so that we don't have to replicate what other people have learned the hard way. That's the one thing they say. The experience is an expensive school, but it's the only one a fool will attend. Let's hope that our society is not so foolish

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