The David Knight Show - INTERVIEW Prepping for Long Term Grid Down & Other Issues

Episode Date: December 6, 2023

Whether it's EMP, cyberattack, physical attack, political deconstruction or natural emergency — what's the best way to prepare for long term issues. What do you need? What do you do? Jack Lawson, CivilDefenseManual.com, joins to talk about a wide array of prepping do's and don'tsFind out more about the show and where you can watch it at TheDavidKnightShow.comIf you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-showOr you can send a donation throughMail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @[e-mail] App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Money is only what YOU hold: Go to DavidKnight.gold for great deals on physical gold/silverFor 10% off Gerald Celente's prescient Trends Journal, go to TrendsJournal.com and enter the code KNIGHTBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.

the two-volume book uh and um here's what it looks like you've seen this before um and um different colors but it is sold as a collected set and you find this at civil defense manual.com excellent set of books it covers everything in terms of power, food, medical preparedness, as well as defending your area and what you can do in working as a community with other people. And he has seen action in Zimbabwe and when it was Rhodesia. And he has a lot of chapters that are written by special ops specialists in their particular area, whether it is about power or communication. And we've talked to him in the past about some of these, um, some of these aspects of it. You can go to the website, civil defense manual.com and you can see the chapter that he has on water, for example, which is very important. That is the most important thing, but he also has a couple of others there. Uh,

we've talked about nuclear preparedness and the risk that the people have. He's got experience with that in the military and so you can see that chapter as well for free i think if you see those chapters you're going to realize how in-depth this is and it is he only puts it out as a he doesn't have an electronic version of it he only has it in print because what happens when the power goes down and you're really going to need this because when the power goes down, we're going to very rapidly descend into anarchy. As I said the other day,

if you have some kind of a cyber attack or EMP, it is going to only take a couple of days before everybody starts trying to cannibalize what other people have. And it's going to descend into chaos very rapidly so joining us now is jack lawson always great to have you on jack thanks for joining us yes uh david can you hear me yeah gotcha sound okay good good and clear good i never trust my technical capability when it comes to this type of thing but it's always good to be in your show david and good to hear your voice well it's good to hear your voice and of course you're doing this a little

bit differently than you have in the past because in the past we've always done it by phone and so it's a little bit better connection but we had a little bit of uh you know since it's the first time uh doing this you know i've been talking last um the last couple of days i mentioned when they were talking about cyber security and the grid and the vulnerability of the grid i said you know i've talked in the past to uh jack lawson about emp we talked about how easy that would be but i think it's even easier if you've got somebody that is going to take down the grid with a cyber attack we've seen that done over and over again usually by just taking down you they shut down the colonial pipelineeline by putting a ransomware attack on their accounting system, and they got them to shut everything down.

I believe that all the traffic was grounded earlier this year when the NOTAM system went out. I think that that was a hack. They won't admit that it was a hack, but it was out for about 12 hours, and they shut all traffic down to the extent they hadn't done since 9-11. And then as soon as that was finished in the United States, the no TAM system went down in Canada. So it's obviously not some kind of a localized failure. And that one came back faster, only about an hour and a half.

But again, when you when you look at that type of thing, it's very easy for somebody to do it for ransomware. It's easy for a hostile foreign nation to do it. And it's even easy for our own government to do it as a false flag attack. So if we lose the power grid over something like that, how does this play out in terms of how long does it take for everything to really descend into anarchy? And what do you do about it? I really believe it would not take very long uh number one i you you said a word that always strikes me uh earlier you said the word cannibalized other people's uh possessions uh i i think that we are so so borderline with our supply system,

that actual word of people eating other people, as grotesque as that may sound, is very probable. I have, through writing this book, I've met a lot of very important people, very knowledgeable people, more than important and along with this almost every one of them says zero to 90 days of cannibalism in this country that's a concept that's hard for people to understand it's repulsive to me that's where i draw a line in the sand when you step over that uh you're no longer a member of the human race as far as i'm concerned but let's go back to one thing you talk about emp uh electromagnetic pulse event is usually

a generated by a nuclear weapon that's set way up in the atmosphere it It set off an area of the planet, and through that pulse that's sent out from that, it destroys electronics. Any semiconductor, any type of transistor semiconductor would be ruined. I don't see that as probable as I do see what Dr. Eric Waddell, a friend of mine who owns a company called Amorous, and he deals specifically, he's been doing this his entire life, he's written a book about it, he deals specifically with grid down situations and redundancy and backup and his belief is this that there's a very very strong probability along with all of we don't know who is in this country it just astounds me to see 40 50 people standing in a line that are chinese and they're all military age people yeah no no women no children

no protection at all and that's the amazing thing about it you know we look at this this debate that i was talking about earlier in the congress and it's like well we're not going to give you any money for ukraine unless you fix the border uh you know we really literally have an invasion as you pointed out a lot of military aged people coming from china and everywhere on earth and of course they don't have to do something like this very provocative, like exploding an EMP, which they could easily trace that back to whichever country that had fired that and annihilate it.

But they could easily go in and sabotage. And we see that as a real possibility. And of course, the other part of this is that we have this slow system of sabotage that's being put out by our own government in the name of climate where they are putting everybody on getting rid of anything that is not electric all the cars all the appliances everything must be electric and then they're shutting the grid down at the same time so they're they're gradually killing it that's why i say at some point in time i wouldn't be surprised they just pulled an event and pulled the whole thing down. But there's also the people who are coming in, as you point out.

David, I believe this. I believe that there has been a couple of events where transformers at power generation stations have had holes shot in the bottom of them. It doesn't take much, but the AKM round, the 7.62x39, most of the military production has a steel core in it, and that will go through the steel of a transformer that is filled with oil that is used to jump the electric power voltage up to where it allows it to be transmitted for a number of miles before it's done again. I think that we've had derailments. I think that the federal government is hiding this from us. They're definitely afraid that somebody is going to get in, shut the border down, gather these people up and send them back to where they came.

It astounds me. I lived in a country where there was infrastructure damage like this, formerly called Rhodesia, now Zimbabwe uh during the time I was there uh there were attacks on the fuel tank farms uh that were devastating it took every fire truck in Rhodesia and uh the South Africans send uh hundreds of trucks up just to contain this fire that that entire incident was a result of two terrorists with an rpg rocket launcher hijacking a taxi standing on top of it and firing a rocket into the fuel tank 500 000 gallons of aviation fuel it took 10 days to put out wow it was in danger of setting the entire rest of the tank farm off. There is so much infrastructure that could be damaged with simple methods. You don't need a rocket launcher.

You can design. There's all kinds of things that can be done. And I think that this has been going on for some time. Well, and when you look at, okay, so that's a fuel depot. You hit that, it blows depot you hit that it blows up your point that takes 10 days to put that one out and could have set everything off but we also look at um you know as they're going to renewables you know around here in this area we got the tva the tennessee valley authority and they are mandating and incentivizing and paying

for people to put in what they call battery energy storage sites. And that is a massive lithium battery site. And that is a gigantic fire waiting to happen. It could even happen on its own. We've already had one of them that was set up in Australia that Tesla put in there, their mega battery thing that caught on fire. But if you were to sabotage that, that'd be pretty easy to sabotage as well because we know that uh we've had electric uh cars that have uh you know run over something on the road and it penetrated the battery and it caused the whole thing to combust

very quickly and so if you were starting to shoot those things you know deliberately trying to destroy them that'd be pretty easy to destroy too just like a big fuel depot absolutely uh the guy that wrote the underground shelter portion of the civil defense manual uh he is probably one of the best experts on underground shelters he refuses to put a lithium battery in he said they are fire waiting to happen yes now there's all kinds of dangers but uh there's no no point in paying to increase your danger level you know as and and i'm not uh putting uh musk down and and this thing i think the lithium battery at this point is probably one of the most efficient it is kind of like a hand grenade though if you it's one of the best batteries to give you a slow power

uh charge as you need it but if you short those terminals together it's like pulling a pin the hand grenade it doesn't it doesn't like that surge of power i remember a few years ago when the samsung came out with a phone that had a lot of these issues and you know they were catching fire and injuring people. Fireball phones. Yeah, exactly. And so what have we done? We've gone from the phone to the electric scooters in New York, and they've had a massive number of fires up there,

a lot of people that have died from that as well, because they would park these electric scooters in the lobby of the building in New York and start charging them, and they would burn up that way. So we go from the cell phone to a laptop to a scooter to a car to a bus. We've had buses that spontaneously combusted in Europe in many cases. In Munich, I think it was Munich or Stuttgart, but I think it was Munich, where it burned down an entire station of these things. And in France, they had them spontaneously combusting and took them off the market. In Canada, they went back and changed them back to diesel. But that's a bus. And so

then from there, they want to go to a semi-trailer. And then from a semi-trailer, they want to go to a backup energy system for the grid. It just keeps getting bigger and bigger. And yet they still have that flammability issue. So that is something that people... Well, let me ask you this. When he says he's not going to use underground storage and things like this, I'm not going to use a lithium battery. What does he use for storage? He uses a simple lead-acid forklift battery.

They're one-third the price of a Tesla firewall. And there are some issues with them because batteries, when they regenerate, cause hydrogen emission. So you have a flammability issue. But that is way overrated. If you have some venting, you don't really have a problem with it. But he just refuses to deal with the lithium batteries. He's built $ million dollars shelters and uh he's had arguments with some of these tech people that the the one that he built was a

i he won't tell me who and and i can't ask him but it was somebody fairly well known and uh they ended up going around him and putting in what he told them not to put in. I don't know if they've had any problems or not from that, but their capability to generate power. They had a, I don't know how many horsepower, Caterpillar tractor, diesel generator, but they had enough fuel to last them for 48 hours. So he said, when this was done, done where's your where's your fuel truck gonna come from and you know they they don't think this stuff through and uh you know he he was pretty disgusted you know they paid him he built a a big complex for him but uh he uh he just gets very disgusted with some of these people some of these people egos, they're a legend in their own mind.

They think they're God themselves. So it's pretty hard to talk to those people. But they did do a lot of things that he told them to do. But going back to this EMP thing, I think we're kind of in a state of limbo. Everybody thought World War III was going to start. I personally believe that most of the Arab states would like to see Hamas. I don't want to get into politics, but I think they want to see them eradicated. They're kind of the

orphan child nobody wants them um i find it amazing that there was 3.5 billion dollars in oil and natural gas that was discovered in 1999 by british petroleum in the gaza strip and i think that's one uh coincidental issue for them going in there and taking over they will not let so hamas just didn't dig their tunnels deep enough right yeah really strike oil they're gonna have them flooded with uh seawater now but yeah so what with the hooties they're the ones who are shooting drones at shipping lanes and that type of thing. And possibly some of the American ships there. But, you know, the so far, the American, I think, is an Aegis class destroyer has taken out a bunch of those. But other than that, as you point out, there's not really any coordinated movement by any other groups outside of Hamas,

except for the Houthis who are shooting stuff at people. Yeah, I think they're keeping this somewhat under control as far as the expansion of it. I don't think the Saudi Arabians or the Turks want to go to war over this. But this death toll, I i mean they talk about 1500 uh israelis that were killed by hamas on october 7th or thereabouts quite a number of them were killed by their own uh apache attack helicopters they were shooting anything that was moving on the ground. But now there's something like 15,000 to 16,000 Gazians have been killed, up to a third of them children. I think this is rattling a lot of cages.

So I don't think it takes much to set things up. But it seems like we're kind of in a limbo. Everybody was looking at, oh, we're going to have world war three well the beginning of it you had some uh you know some uh rockets that were shot by hezbollah and uh people were saying well you know maybe hezbollah maybe lebanon maybe iran is going to do something but so far that has been except for right at the very beginning it's been kind of quiet well i laugh at i've seen a lot of explosions and i've seen the aftermath of a lot of explosions and 500 people being killed by one rocket. That was not a wooden structure that the sides will blow out of easily. That absorbs a lot of the blast and directs it upward. To have 500 people killed makes me question where that explosive device came from.

And the long and short of the thing is, I think this is controlled, but if we get into a situation, which it could, escalate into a World War III situation, you will see an EMP. But before that, I think what we will see in the next couple of years, we're going to start seeing grid outages. And whether we're told the truth of where they're coming from or not, what was it the med uh the one in california uh they proved that there were two uh trained marksmen and one spotter that's usually the makeup of a tactical SWAT team's sniper unit or a military sniper unit you've either got one spotter and one rifleman or uh you can have a couple of uh riflemen but they systematically shot holes in the bottom i think it was a test run matt bracken uh comes out and says that he says it was a test run and there's a funny department of homeland defense investigated this but they don't say much so you know it's uh like everything else they don't say

it must be classified uh yeah yeah we're not allowed to know that and of course uh you know they would look bad if they were not protecting our border but of course everybody understands that they're not doing that i think you're right and i think you know even if we don't have so you know the you look at ukraine uh that is failing miserably. Things have not, even though they're escalating somewhat in China, even if we don't have a full-out war with China or something like that, as you point out, these groups that are coming in could be engaging in constant harassment, sabotage, or something like that, just to push back against the United States.

You don't necessarily have to have a full-on war for them to start messing with the grid no it doesn't take much of anything and i think that's what we're going to see uh the explanation will probably be uh infrastructure failure but i think what it's going to be a sabotage i i think there are there it's impossible that there are not military intelligence in uh this country uh along with all of these able-bodied people i think they're military i think they're the chinese uh form of their cia and fbi i'm sure they've got people in here and they know where things are yeah and they know how to damage it and it wouldn't take much yeah oh yeah i agree so you know we talk about that you got two different volumes here and um you've got all together between the two uh you've got 44 different chapters and so it's extensive amount

of information as i said before somebody wants to see what is typical of it they can go to your site civildefensemanual.com and they can see a free chapter there on both water as well as nuclear threats and how to prepare for those two types of things but in each one of these volumes you have an extensive checklist as well on the back in terms of talking about food requirements for people, different ways that you can use different things that you can use to protect from gunshots and that type of thing in terms of body armor, but also the types of penetration that we're just talking about and what you can do to shield against that. But it's just a wealth of information that you've got there. Talk to us a little bit about medical things like dental care. What do you do with dental care when everything has been shut down? Pick a topic and give us some idea of something that we can prepare for today. I go back to my prime directive. my prime directive is to store food and water

i know you always advocated that david i cannot emphasize enough i guess i feel like an insurance salesman i'm trying to get people to ensure their survival and that of their children uh i pound on my family about this all the time i'm after them all the time on it i spent a lot of money preparing them and uh generally i think they're probably pretty much uh in the preparation stage uh to where they they could last for a while but i think people have got to have at least 10 days of water and uh three weeks of food more water if you can but also life-sustaining uh medicines uh i mean i'm going back to what i feel like i sometimes feel like i'm a farmer that's been plowing killed the horse and i'm beating him to get up to pull the plows more you know i feel like this is

something that people cannot really fathom uh we live in such an abundant society here uh i've been through not eating i've been through on top of not having water or doing a forced march for two days in deep dark africa and i know know what it's like to become just about going out of your mind from thirst. And people have to look at one of the most critical things. You turn a tap on and water comes out and it's potable water. It's drinkable. It's safe to drink, generally speaking.

But people need to do this. I have all kinds of things in this book. And I put some of this on a website free because I want the water treatment. I want people to be able to get that now. If they don't have my book, go to my website, civil defense manual.com, read the blogs and read the sample chapters I have there. I mean, here's your Navy SEAL officer. Matt Bracken is one of the most fantastic authors. He actually got me started. He's my mentor. He put a whole chapter in a night fighting.

Now who's going to go night fight? You may at some point, if things get bad enough, have to be protective of your property when there's no moonlight, no streetlights. And to do that, he tells you how to do it without all this expensive night vision and infrared. And this to me is is one of the critical aspects of being able to protect your neighborhood. Um, there there's, you know, back in Texas, they had such an invasion of feral pigs, but it was open season at any given time, as a matter of fact, if a pigtail, i know my sister lived there

yeah i heard all about that yeah and and if you could bring in a pigtail in the county that we lived in that would give you a cash you know for for any pigs that you could prove that you'd killed but it was really difficult to kill them and you know it would come out at night and you would have to have these really expensive uh uh night um um you know vision things but of course you had to be very very stealthy they would hear you coming from way off and so you had to you know people would go hunting them uh in in an area where it was fairly large they put blankets all over their car and everything tried to keep the noise down uh but so it was very difficult to do that but again it didn't involve some very expensive equipment so he's got a way to do

that without getting the really expensive night scope well not so much hunting feral pig but uh protecting your property yeah definitely i mean matt's matt fled seal teams in the middle east he knows this stuff inside out and backward he wrote the whole chapter for me i got a way to store chicken eggs without refrigeration for up to two years this is the way it was done if you wondered how these guys in new york weren't a six gun still out there got their eggs for breakfast it was usually through uh their refrigeration method that uh in a hydrogenated. And, uh, it says I've got how to do this in there. Uh, one thing I,

uh, I was taught, I was in a commando unit and I was taught by Israeli and, British Commonwealth SAS instructors is I was taught things like skipping rounds guy. Everybody's obviously everybody thinks 95 95 of the equation of survival is firearms and ammunition that is not true it's 95 of it is food and water but you may need to protect what you have you can make a single round a jacketed round, turn into a shotgun, basically,

by skipping rounds. This is something that we're taught to do. I've got in there where to get Mother Nate. Define that term for skipping rounds. You're talking about shooting at the ground, at something that's hard that's going to fracture the bullet, I'm assuming, right? Right.

Yeah, it fragments it. I've got pictures in the book of uh of ak rounds i've fired and 762 by 51 which is 308 nato round and the 556 millimeter m16 ar round and uh it's it's absolutely amazing along with the debris that this bullet will kick up. These will call not all of these holes in the sample silhouette target I have would be lethal, but they certainly would make a bad day for the guy that's laying in wait trying to kill you. Yeah.

But like salt, where do you get salt? How to keep from freezing in cold weather without burning fuel. That's something we may all need that, even if there's some kind of a catastrophe, because they're trying to shut off our fuel and heat ourselves. Yeah, we're so close from grid shutdown. We're so close to this type of thing. I don't think people realize how critical and how uh susceptible this is to to shut down i mean don't you think about this often i mean oh yeah you've got a lot of lights and electronic stuff in your show there yeah oh yeah we lost power i think it

was last week or the week before that and um you know we could have a backup here but we don't have really the kind of internet access that's going to allow us to do the bandwidth that we need. And so, you know, we had to start the show like three hours, almost three hours late that day because it just shut everything down in the entire area around here. Everything shut down, school shut down, all the stores are shut down. And so you look at that and you get a little bit of a taste of it. But then you also realize these politicians are trying to gradually, they're like gremlins destroying the grid system themselves in slow motion. And we've seen the results of that when we were in Texas, you know, where they, uh, the entire time I was in Texas for a decade, they were shutting down, uh, coal and oil, uh, power plants and putting in windmills and, uh, solar panels and the windmills froze and everything froze and and we were out of power for a while with that so you know they're making the whole system very very vulnerable everybody every summer people can see how the capacity and the

vulnerability is the capacity is going down the vulnerability is going up because every summer or winter whenever you have extremely cold or hot weather, everybody is being warned. Oh, don't use any electricity because we're right on the edge of going down. We never had anything like that in decades past. This is something that's brand new. It's their new normal when it comes to energy starvation. And it's only going to get worse. It's only going to get worse rapidly.

We've had such an explosion of the use of electronics i mean our computers don't draw that much but you put everybody's computer together and you put this this foolishness of these electro mag mandated electric vehicles together with cutting cutting back on the the mainst, the muscle of power production, which is coal-fired plants and nuclear, I don't think are very much better. And depending on Mother Nature for windmills, solar, it's a recipe for disaster. And to what degree that disaster is another thing, whether it comes to not being able to drive your car, not being able to get groceries at a grocery store.

Those are two different degrees of danger. Yeah. Or not being able to get emergency medical help to you or to get to where there's emergency medical help. That type of thing doesn't necessarily have to rely on some kind of a war or something breaking out or sabotage. It's just, it's gradually being sabotaged by these people and they're increasing it. You know, as you talked about nuclear, the whole idea that we got to stop all this stuff because of emissions.

I see a lot of problems with nuclear because I understand what the long-term issues are with the storage, but nevertheless, you know, they are not looking to replace anything that they're taking down with something that is known that works, that is reliable. You know, nuclear is reliable. It's got some back-end costs that are huge on it. It's got some other risks that are involved there.

But they don't care about any of this stuff. And they're not talking about the nuclear, even though it has, by their admission, zero emissions. So, according to their story, that ought to be something that they would turn to. So, you know, there's something else here. And we know exactly what that is. It's a deliberate destruction of the grid. Yeah. And along with the grid, you may as well replace that word grid with America.

Because if the grid goes down, we have got some serious problems. I cannot believe the level of corruption that's even gotten into the area i'm in there's uh the developers uh that are trying to increase the water allotment uh i'm in the southwest it's the desert you know cities like las vegas and uh salt lake city even uh phoenix and and Albuquerque. They're all cities that are in the desert, the high desert. And there seems to be an endless drive to build properties here because everybody's leaving California.

But that's the corruption, and the people that are involved with this on a federal level. It just astounds me. It astounds me. I see very few people that are Matt Gates and Marjorie Green and Rand Paul. They're, they're all people that I deeply respect because I think that they've had,

they've, they've had uh uh they've they've had uh uh well gates himself was uh literally tried they tried to lynch him and uh they picked on the wrong guy because the billionaire family of his got behind him and traced back this fraudulent scheme all the way into the justice department nothing was ever done but they it seemed to drop off there they could never find out who it was connected to but the level of corruption has gotten to the point i don't know the older i get the more i believe in the bible i have uh one son that was a muslim he's no longer he asked too many questions and i think they asked him to leave and the other one was uh i guess you might say he's a christian he was the sergeant of

his scout sniper unit in weapons platoon unit in iraq kind of the absolute of contradictions they both love each other they're good they're great guys, great guys. I'm very proud of them. But the point being this is I am more and more am seeing the wisdom of reading the Bible and the wonderful story it has. And I look back at my life, David, and I tell you, I told my wife the other day, that must have been a period of insanity. I was in one of doing this or that. And I said, only God and Jesus, some entity kept me alive. For what reason, I don't know. But the odds are I shouldn't have survived what I did.

But the point being this, I more and more look at the bible and uh i'm a christian and i'd like to accept anybody's religion that uh as long as they aren't going around trying to kill me but uh uh you know we support religious freedom because we want to have it for ourselves you know i've said that about everything is it you know even when you talk about free speech you can't have any freedom in any form if you don't support that freedom for somebody else so i can't have my freedom of religion if i don't support your freedom of religion but you're right you know you ask questions and you should be asking questions and and you're right to talk about the bible you know you don't have a chapter in here

on the bible that that is the ultimate prepping isn't it uh because that that is that is but i do have a section on religion and i have six points that i go over that i'll accept anybody's religion and you know obviously uh uh people that are advocating uh killing the infidels or or killing the muslim or whatever, either way that they're going, I need to step back and look at the fact that the majority of people that do believe in a higher power and can humble themselves before that, the majority of people just want to live in peace. Yeah.

And I don't think they want to sit in and have a knife at each other's throat. I think we've moved away from that in the country i think that's one of the critical factors we're having and there's uh in in my opinion the globalists have an attack on this it is it's something that's a competition to what they want to instill in humanity which by the way is illusionary uh it's based on communism oh yeah oh yeah absolutely is yeah by the way merry christmas to you before well thank you same to you as well uh yeah that that's a another example that they want to uh try to shut things down i mean they they're very very intolerant very totalitarian and um and so that's one thing that we want to be able to push back on and uh to stand firm

against it and and i think the key thing is you know one of the things to prepare for uh is to understand your relationship with god and that one of the reasons that we see everybody fighting each other in this country is because we've thrown god out you know we don't have peace with god we're going to have war with each other and absolutely 100 100 correct yeah that i've come to this conclusion not because i'm getting older and i'm afraid of dying i've faced death many times bottom line is this i think about things a lot and i think about some entity kept me alive and some energy has given me the blessings of wonderful children a wonderful wife and i i'm just a priest you and i i love christianity because it's the one religion of all of them that professes forgiveness yeah and sacrifice that's. And when you read about it, whatever you want to think about,

Jesus or God is up to the individual. But I got six points in my book that I go over that pretty much encapsulate what I think should allow a person to look at another religion and accept its existence instead of trying to exterminate i mean look at these jokers over in the middle east they've been trying to kill each other off for four or five thousand years you know and it doesn't see yeah i i know i've heard people say

well you know we've had a situation in the past where the catholics are trying to kill the prostitutes the process of trying to kill the path of the catholics and so forth this kind of of war. And as one person said, you know, well, you know, at that point in time, they took their religious differences seriously enough that they would go to war over it. But that was when it was tied in with government. And so we looked at this, and it's like, well, we still want to take this seriously, but we want to have the toleration that we're not going to establish anything. That's really what the basis of America was. And yet, as you get older and you're talking about it, when you're younger, you look at it.

And when I was younger, I should say, I would look at it and it's like a fear of death. I don't have the fear of death anymore. It's not something that I look forward to experiencing, certainly be an unpleasant experience. But when I look at it now, I look at it with an anticipation of what comes next. And that's the biggest thing that takes the fear of death away. It's not that you're going to be leaving behind things that you and people that you, especially people that you really love.

But there's an expectation you're going to be reunited with them. And that's what we work for. We work to try to take as many with us as we can and to try to get there ourselves. And so that anticipation and what it is about, I find it very, when we're talking about books, I love Randy Alcorn's Heaven because he begins with the Bible and he tries to keep it as based in the Bible. He gives a reason why this would fit with the Bible, and he tries to keep it as based in the Bible. He gives a reason why this would fit with the Bible. But it's a very positive understanding of what life would be like afterwards.

It's not just hanging around on clouds and doing nothing. Not that at all. It makes a biblical case that we would be very active, and we'd be active in a sense that we don't have the kind of frustration and futility that we have here on this earth. But it is also, even in that book, and as you talked about your friend who left Islam because, not your friend but your son, who left Islam because he asked too many questions. We invite questions. And we invite that inspection. And as I do that, and as I look at it more carefully, it actually bolsters my confident expectations. And the more deeply I look at it, the more closely I look at it, rather than pushing me away.

And so I always invite that. You know, somebody is skeptical about something, let me hear it. You know, let me look at it. Because every time I look at it, it gets validated, and my faith gets stronger for doing that investigation. Yes, it does. It has a way of drawing you further into it and i think that uh your belief grows as you uh expose yourself to this i mean i had a friend of mine uh saw a bible sitting in the front seat of my car and he says lawson you the bible you know what are you doing you know and i i told him i said you know something i said there's some fantastic stories in there i said i read these

things and i this is like a roadmap for life the old testament new testament is a roadmap it tells you all the mistakes they're telling you what the mistakes they were that they made. And they're telling you not to do it. And unfortunately, most of experience of life for people is making mistakes by which you learn wisdom. And I just also encourage every adult out in your listening area. Every one of them. Well, there was a there was a song uh by the judds grandpa tell me about the good old days i've said this before but i remember uh you know the the thing is now you

start to realize your grandpa and uh younger people need guidance and i think a person uh needs to give them the guidance that wisdom of their age provides and and and have some faith in these young people they're good good young people out there and um yeah that's probably when they talk about their preparation on individual liberties that's the way i measure everything yeah not the second amendment i measure individual liberties which the second amendment is part of yes they're now attacking free speak if you don't believe if you have somebody that doesn't believe in individual liberties that's somebody i don't want anything to do with yeah man that's that's

congress i don't want anything to do with most of them. So, yeah, it is true. You know, we were talking about nuclear, but the nuclear family, that term, I just recently realized that that term was just kind of referring to, you know, mother and father and immediate kids. Because we have a mobile society and people would, you know, leave the area that they grew up in for the most part and leave their extended family and go to another part of the country. And so you just had that real core there, mother, father, and kids. You didn't have the extended family of grandparents and cousins and things like that. And so in a sense, you know, that was one of the things that really kind of undercut us. And as you point out, you know, as grandpa, we've got to tell those stories and we've got to keep that culture going. And that's one thing that really is we've lost that.

And everybody is attached not even to their nuclear family, but they're attached to the kids get attached to the school. You know, they get more attached to their schoolmates than they get to their siblings. And they get more attached perhaps to their teachers in many cases than they do to their parents yeah put the iphone down yeah put the iphone down every once in a while i've seen families in restaurants i don't know what they're doing sitting together other than they're reading their uh text messages there yeah i don't even call the phone anymore it's, it's an entertainment center. Put the phone down, put your entertainment center down and look your kids in the eyes and talk to them. I do this all the time. We've kind of got an off limits phone thing here.

I have a son-in-law is an attorney that doesn't always work with. He's always on the, always on the phone. But anyway, it's a, it's something that's important. These young people, it don't try to cram a religion down their throat. They'll come to it. Yeah. Giving, giving the guidance to a child and wisdom and being an example, I think is very, very important. Yeah, that's right.

And it's the time that you spend with them. You know, you go back and you look at Deuteronomy six, I think, is very, very important. Yeah, that's right. And it's the time that you spend with them. You know, you go back and you look at Deuteronomy 6. You know, as you're walking with your kids on the way, you do this. Well, you've got to be with them in order to be able to have a teachable moment as you're walking with them. So that's a key part of it, I think. But getting back to the survival stuff that's more immediate. We're talking about the open border and the unrest that is going to come with that. As we see the anarchy that's being pushed in both directions, both with an open border and with the policies of a lot of these Soros district attorneys just turning criminals

out on the street. Now we're seeing one of the district attorneys and i think it's in new orleans he gets carjacked by somebody he let out and we have an fbi agent who just got carjacked and we have a congressman who got carjacked in washington dc and so they're creating a great deal of uh anarchy and things like that do you address uh just that kind of ordinary personal uh safety on a regular basis in your book yes i do awareness yeah yes i do i i have uh i have a whole section i sat on a police board in a major it was one of the largest police boards in the united states and i was a judge of officer involved shootings and use of deadly force and i was on out of seven years so i had a lot of exposure to

law enforcement having to deal with the public and along with that i put a lot of information in there on how to common sense watch where you're doing where you are what you're doing and be aware of threat i'm a believer in this. I believe a person walking from the grocery store door out to their car in a semi-lit parking lot can sense a danger around them. But the problem is they're thinking about everything other than that. We're almost like the old sitcom, The J the jetsons where this guy had the antennas come out of his forehead you know only we don't let ours out anymore we're always thinking about something else yeah and on that police board i talked to hundreds of people and it was always

the same statement oh they came out of nowhere they didn't come out of nowhere they were waiting for you but you weren't thinking about them and you weren't tuned in i swear there's almost a sense of adrenaline in the air that you could pick up on or some type of telepathic thought when there's evil about you you can you can be aware of this, but I've got quite a bit in there about how to survive a knife fight, which is basically turn and run. If you talk to any special operations guys, they give you all kinds of different movements and blocking movements and that type of thing. But wrapping a coat around your arm to protect yourself, doing whatever you have to.

But the number one rule i had an instructor tell me turn and run but uh there's quite a bit on on common sense protection also i get heavily into the neighborhood protection and uh i am revising some of what I've written. I am astounded at what has happened. I was exposed to the Mormons, the very first one of these I set up with. And they were people that ate this stuff up and asked for seconds. They were the type of, because their religion pushes this type of thing, is self-preservation and a group protection of your area. But I've noticed where i live i'm getting people coming from areas of the country they've lived in an anti-state

where they were told everything they can do and what they can't do mostly what they can't do and it amazes me that i see these people uh have gotten the males have gotten so feminized and everybody is oh you can't do that or oh that's against the law well i'm not a lawyer but i know enough about how police look at you in your own area uh to be able to state as i do in the book what to do and uh it it's it's frightening to me that this attitude of uh of this lackadaisical attitude this i don't really care about this is so overwhelming people uh again uh my latest post in my book my blog is an article called Fear that was written by a preacher, a friend of a friend of mine, a guy called GenX Can. And it basically tells you how to deal with it. I believe this.

Get some food. Get some water. Get yourself a protection device, whether it's a firearm or whether it's non-lethal like bear spray you'd have bear spray and be prepared then enjoy your family enjoy life but get something to tide you over when the grocery stores are being raided by everybody that's right that's right and you know, when you look at the advice that you've got here, being situationally aware of what is happening, you know, it's amazing to me when we look at how everybody is freaking out over things that are absolutely nothing. And yet they completely ignore the real dangers around them. And interesting. Yeah. Isn't that an interesting contradiction that's there?

It kind of gets you passive in a lot of different ways. And I think about it in terms of driving. You know, I've been in countries where there's not really any lanes and people just free form. And people are more aware of what's going on. They're constantly thinking about all this stuff. Whereas Americans get lulled into this. It's like, OK, I got my lane. I got my traffic light. That light's green.

I'm going. I'm not even going to look to see if somebody is running it in the other direction. Right. They over a very interesting perspective. Yeah. That is very true. And I think that has happened to us in all aspects of our life. And so I think that's one of the big advantages of reading your book because it opens people up to, okay, this type of thing can happen and that kind of thing can happen.

But even to the extent you're talking about keeping warm, easy ways to keep warm, not just if you lose power, but just if you want to try to save some money because or whatever, you know, in terms of food and other things like that in this time of rapid inflation and things like that that might happen or with job insecurity, you know, making some preparation of things that are going to tide you over. That is very, very important. And so it has immediate usage in terms of preparation, I think, for the things we're going to face on a regular basis, but also for catastrophic things. But even if the catastrophic things don't happen, you're going to be better off with these types of preparations and understanding what is there and ready for a lot of different

things that are going to come at you. So it's a great book. I highly recommend this to people and have no problem. People will need, people will need this knowledge. Yes. Within the next two years, especially since this next year is an election year,

I anticipate, uh, not totally anarchy in a country, but I anticipate, uh, towards, uh, the,

uh, election. I anticipate there's going to be a lot of writing. The rule of law is basically going out the window already. To me, I would not want to be a policeman, which I wanted to be for a long time. I would not want to be a policeman now because there's a total lack of respect for the police.

That's right. And it's a tough job to go to work. A lot of handcuffs put on them, isn't it? While they released the criminals, that's the way the rules have been. I'm not saying, uh, I'm not saying some of that shouldn't be. Yeah, that's right. Because there are, there are situations, but, uh, basically, uh, in my book, where to hunker down in the city, I don't advocate a person stays in the city but if you do there are certain ways that you can survive if you're in the summertime there's enough food around to eat in

alleys with weeds edible we'll have to talk about that the next time there's so much in the book and two volumes of this again the website is civil defense manual.com go there and take a look at least at what he has to say about water. That is vital. And we need to start thinking about preparedness because things are going to get very volatile very soon. I think, thank you for joining us, Jack Lawson.

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