The David Knight Show - INTERVIEW Reference Manual for Survival
Episode Date: March 29, 2023We've already had a taste of what's coming with disruptions of medical care, supply chains, food and more. What do you need to know to prepare and protect your neighborhood from disaster, riots, civil... unrest and other threats? Jack Lawson, author & editor of CivilDefenseManual.com, written by Special Operations Soldiers and contributing experts.Find out more about the show and where you can watch it at TheDavidKnightShow.com If you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here:SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-showOr you can send a donation through Mail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @DavidKnightShow@protonmail.comCash App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Money is only what YOU hold: Go to DavidKnight.gold for great deals on physical gold/silverBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.
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Jack Lawson. As I was saying before the break, Civil Defense Manual, it's sold as a two-volume
set because there's a lot of different
topics in here and you need to get the bigger picture with all this i've had jack lawson on
many times it's been a while since he's been on but i remember one of the first times i had him on
he was talking about supply chain disruptions and it was before everything got locked down and we
saw all the supply chain disruptions and he was stressing the fact that you have this in your supply chain uh you've got the you know we have just in time supply delivery
and we got these long uh lines of supply get broken in one particular place and it's going
to shut everything down and what we've been living that for the last three years so joining us now
is jack lawson and i want to give you a little bit of an idea of his background. Thank you for joining us, Jack. Thank you. Thank you. It's
always good to talk to you and listen to that golden voice. Well, thank you very much. By the
way, it's civildefensemanual.com is the website, and we'll put that back up as we talk to Jack.
You'll see that there. Jack, how did you tell people a little bit about your experience?
I know that you've had experience as a soldier.
I know that you've got a lot of, it's not just your experience, which is vast and all
of this stuff, but you've also got the, you've got other people who have different areas
of expertise, whether it's in communications or organizing, neighborhood
defense and that type of thing.
So you've got other contributors that are in this, but you've
had a lot of experience yourself.
How did you first get interested in all this stuff?
Was it when you were a soldier or was it earlier than that?
Oh, it was earlier than that one.
I rose to my years of teenage years in a farm family.
We had 11 in our family, and my dad went from being the largest egg exporter to the Marshall
plant in the Mediterranean.
I made millions of dollars, got into farming.
Unfortunately, the year he got in, everything went off the cliff,
we almost lost everything.
Being a fighter that he was and taught us to be, to live in the family, we started to
realize that what we sat down at the table to eat, what we drank, where we slept, the
warmth that we had didn't just appear.
It was something that was not guaranteed.
And because of that, that got me, that turned a light bulb on in my head.
But after that, I pretty much had that mindset of what we eat, consume, medicines we take, not a given. Because of that, I've always been concerned about having sufficient supplies of items
that I could store.
Now, I also spent the Cold War years in the Air Force.
I was a nuclear arming specialist.
I wanted to go to Vietnam,
couldn't get there, couldn't get out of what I was in because it was a limited supply of guys that knew how to do what I did. So after I got out of the Air Force, I went to Africa
and got into the Foreign Legion. And the bottom line is I was in a nasty little war for three years.
I saw the heartache and the heartbreak of the people over there and the way they lived.
I saw people that were starving.
It left an indelible imprint on my mind david so uh not people in this country do not understand unless they see those
things not on tv you have to see them up personal yeah up front and and personal yeah that's right
so that's that's pretty much where where i started and then i realized that look we since Carter in 1976 the civil defense system
basically has been shut down all we've got left are coffee cups with the logo
on and you know sirens that go off once a while they're gonna tell you that
you're gonna be in deep doo-doo but not how much or no trainings given to
anybody you saw that during the cold war.
It's like, uh, you look at the duck and cover, stick your head in your desk.
Or if you're, you see a big flash in the city, as they told you, missiles are coming in.
And of course, in those days they traveled a lot slower.
Uh, as you see the missiles coming in and everybody's stuck in a traffic jam, trying
to get out of that, uh, concentrated city.
When you see the flash, get out of your car and lay down in
the ditch and you'll be just fine.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, I went to nuclear weapons school and the bottom line is it's a mad doctrine, the
mutual assured destruction.
In other words, we got into it with China and or Russia.
The bottom line would be the planet would be incinerated
and, uh, you know, you know, say your prayers and that kind of thing.
But that, that, you know what?
I don't think people realize.
I just had an incident happen to me last Friday.
My wife and I went to, uh, the big city close to us and while in the city we had other business to do there but all in the city
we uh go go to a mall you know not that we don't have those things around here but my wife wanted
another pair of the perfect pants so we're in this big mall and this dillard's macy type thing and
to me shopping is brutal yeah i've walked 100 miles in Africa across the bush country
and walking 800 yards in a shopping center just drives me up the wall.
So I sat down underneath the escalators and decided to take a snooze.
I had my Special Forces chapter hat on, and I pulled that down.
I was starting to go to sleep, and I heard this blood-curdling scream.
Now, the point of this story is, when you get done listening to this,
this is how much people have the capacity to get away from the illusion they're living
and deal with reality.
Heard this blood-curdling scream.
Me and another guy get up.
We run over to the escalator stop, we run over the escalator,
stop. We look up the escalator. For whatever reason, this young guy goes and sits down.
I see this woman and she's screaming. So me, 75 years young, I go two steps at a time up the
escalator to the top. I immediately surveyed the situation to see what danger there was to me, to what was going on, and
how I could help.
Now, there's at least 20 people standing there, including two mall security guards in their
spiffy yellow and black uniforms.
And I looked down, and there's a little dog with its paw caught in the escalator.
And I thought, oh, my God, you know, I love dogs,
but I don't like to see any creatures.
So, well, I could think of a couple of two-legged creatures
maybe here or there that I wouldn't mind seeing.
But the bottom line is the lady was screaming these animalistic sounds,
and I turned to her and I said,
ma'am, I said, quit screaming and hold your dog's snout so he doesn't bite me.
And she's screaming away and she's got a $40,000, this is like a Versace handbag and a $40,000 hog ring in her nose, you know, a diamond.
And so she grabs her dog and I managed to get my knife and pry and pull the dog's foot out.
Now, his leg was pretty mangled, but the whole time I'm doing it, everybody's standing.
By the time I got down, there were 35 people there.
And I turned to the mall guys and I said, I don't know what they're paying you guys
for.
And the lady was profusely appreciative of the fact that I got her dog's foot out.
I tied one of my handkerchiefs around there to try to stop the bleeding,
but I don't know.
The dog was close to being maybe his tripod now.
I don't know.
It got pretty mangled.
But the point being this, the whole time I'm doing this,
nobody's listening to the finger.
They're just making oohs and aahs and crying sounds,
and nobody is doing anything.
And in the process of this, well, there wasn't except two people were videoing this thing.
And while I was doing this, my jacket came up and I heard a woman say,
he's got a gun.
And I couldn't believe this.
And so if you do have a nuclear attack, you better learn something beforehand about it
because people's ability to respond, I think we live in such an illusion through these
iPhones and everything, technology, that people don't know how to react to a real situation.
They'll stand and watch or video it, you know?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
That's what I was going to say.
I'm surprised that you didn't have everybody standing there pulling out their cell phone
so they could get it on their social media account.
Uh, because that's typically what they do.
That's typically what they do.
And we've seen this over and over again.
You know, you can have a situation where, uh, you know, some child, small child is being
attacked by a gang of teenagers and everybody just stands around videotaping
it, you know, that's the most reprehensible thing.
Yeah.
I was so disgusted.
I told my wife about this one when I done it, my wife's from Africa.
So she, she has a realism about things, even though she's got an iPhone.
I got rid of my iPhone, got a flip phone again, just for my sanity,
because I have 55 nieces and nephews, and they all think Uncle Jack's a cat's meow,
and they want to text me all the time.
I don't want that, you know.
Yeah, that's right.
Anyway.
Well, let's talk about it a little bit of those things, because you do have chapters.
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You've got Connor on surviving nuclear warfare with what you have.
And, of course, these are other people who are contributors to this,
in addition to your own areas of expertise,
or surviving biological infectious disease and chemical warfare.
You have Emanuelson on preparing for an EMP attack on solar sun.
So you cover all of these types of things and you have some,
some advice for things that people can do.
So they're not completely helpless and victims.
There's some things that you can do to enhance your ability to survive some of
these things.
Talk about any of those that you'd like to give people some tips on.
Give them an idea of what's in the book.
Well, number one, people have to understand,
regardless of whether it's local, county, state, or federal government,
not that they're not going to help,
but when they get there and what they come with, uh, and how they
treat you are going to be a number of things you have to take into consideration.
You're basically on your own.
So people have to look at, at, uh, things that are in this book.
And I am far from the expert on everything.
That's why I brought people in. Like Shane Connor has been dealing with
nuclear issues since the 60s. He's probably one of the best experts in the country. He'll tell
you how to survive. And even though when I wrote this book four years ago, I didn't look at the nuclear exchange possibility of
a full-blown nuclear war or at least tactical weapons being used.
When I say full-blown, I mean worldwide.
When I say tactical weapons, it would be pointed weapons in specific areas.
But when I wrote this book, that wasn't an issue, but with this Ukrainian thing and
the lunacy that is driving involvement with that, I'm a history buff. So when I go back
and look at Russia's history, the Ukraine has always been part of that. I think it generally was until, I believe it was engineered by
the West, the civil revolution that took place there in 2014 and changed it over to people
that were pretty much anti-Russian, even though a large, large part of that country is Russian-speaking and are Russian people.
But the point being, the war, EMP, electromagnetic pulse, which will shut everything down.
People think this is some fantasy thing.
I have one of the foremost experts in the book on this, Jerry Emanuelson.
He's been dealing with this all his life.
It is a serious, serious issue,
and there is literally no protection for it in this country.
Most countries, while we got rid of our civil defense,
they went the other way.
They have, the Russians just recently had an exercise
of 40 million people that they can shelter. They had an exercise of 40 million people that they could shelter.
They had an exercise.
They made it a simulation of a nuclear attack coming and getting these people into shelter to survive in the areas they thought were going to get hit.
When's the last time anybody's heard of you know, of a preparedness issue from FEMA?
Yeah.
You don't.
That's right.
People are on their own.
So I have a number of different issues that I go in here.
Everybody thinks about the pandemic, epidemic.
Talk to my wife about that.
And I lived through cholera and typhus epidemics in Africa.
I've seen what real diseases that have a mortality rate that's dangerous,
not this COVID thing of 2%.
These things are 40% to 60% death rates from these
without immediate medical intervention.
So I put all the things in that people need to look at Yeah. So that's true.
A lot of things then that people need to look at.
Yeah, it's true.
And of course, like I said, you cover the big stuff like a nuclear exchange, which unfortunately
is looking like that is what our government is hell bent on doing and never doing any
preparation.
I mean, even when I was a young child, when the Cuban missile crisis happened, the idea
of preparation was to have an extra set of clothes that you take and keep at the school.
That was it.
It's like, what is that for?
I mean, I was so close that I could, as a young child, easily walk home.
But why would I have another set of clothes there at the school?
And how in the world does that protect me?
But you've got a lot of practical stuff that, you know, when we look at this, things like dental care and alternative power and sanitation, many other things that we can see even as health care was shut down to us during the pandemic.
People were somewhat on their own.
You know, you don't, if you're concerned about what's happening, they would shut the hospitals down,
even though they had empty rooms, and we've seen this documented.
We've had people writing books about it.
And they're going to shut it down in case somebody comes in,
but they're not going to let you get any health care,
whether you're talking about dental care or any of these other types of things.
So we've already had a taste of that.
Yes.
Yeah, I really don't think we've seen the end of this no uh no it's going
to come back we've just had a test another one coming that's right we've just had a test of it
and we've seen how they used it to shut down all the health care system so you know if they they
make it a little bit worse they extend it longer you're already on your own whether or not you've
had a real pandemic or whether there's been a biological
attack or a chemical attack or a nuclear attack, you're still going to be on your own when they
run this playbook again and they run it a little bit deeper. So all these things are very imminent,
I would say. We've seen tastes of them and I think they're coming back. And that's why I think it's
so important for people to have this kind of knowledge. It's important to know better places to go and better ways to build your house,
and you've got some of these things here in terms of building shelters and things like that.
But it's also the other aspect of it in terms of medical emergency things
as well as you talk about in your first volume, organizing your neighborhood for defense.
Talk a little bit about that.
That's one of the critical factors.
I've set a number of these up.
There's hundreds of them that have gone up in the country.
I've had emails from people all over.
The bottom line of the entire thing is we are on our own, each one of us, with the exception of getting to know your neighbors
and getting to organize with your neighbors.
The street where I live, we have 40-some people. We have a radio network set up.
The reason we have a radio network is to coordinate should the communication system go down,
which if you have an EMP, it go down and there will probably be no telephone
they'll probably be no cell phone most likely no internet service so there's no
way to really talk to each other and of course you're going to get a couple of
cans like they taught you in the Boy Scouts years ago and a string and
stretch it out you know it just doesn't't work uh... so we have uh... specific kind of radio
and we have radio check-in every two weeks
people like that
it's not only
crisis uh... of
of a magnitude that we're talking about it's also uh... uh... help situation we
have
for people that are invalid in our neighborhood.
We have a list of people, what their afflictions are,
and what we can do if something happens.
We check on those people.
It's basically what people used to be.
They used to take care of each other in the neighborhood.
I think in some boroughs in the areas in New York and that,
they do, but generally Americans have turned into a garage door community wherever they are.
They go to work, they come home, pull their car in the garage, put the garage door down,
and they may not even know the neighbor two houses down. Well, we do it differently here.
We've got a great group of people. We have more damn fun than you can possibly believe. We get together in the fork. We have a barbecue. We have
meetings in one or more of the members' garages, and we show how to do different things. We give
little demonstrations. We're not doom and gloom. We have a bunch of laughs. We've got, we have fun doing it,
but the most important thing is if something really bad happens, we have the initial, uh,
factor in getting cohesiveness and organization. And that is, we know each other and we have
our own plans to where we can protect our area and that type of
thing with our own separate communication system.
I remember we had in Texas, we had a friend who was a retired Marine,
got to know him through a homeschooling group and he had done the same thing.
He had identified several neighbors who were of like mind and they were in
communication via radio and they would test it periodically, but they'd also talk about preparation. several neighbors who were of like mind and, uh, they were in, you know,
communication via radio and they would test it periodically,
but they'd also talk about preparation.
He was heavily into preparation as well.
He'd even to the point where they were on a dead end road, a cul-de-sac.
And he had identified, uh,
which trees that were going to cut down to block the road in case there's
civil unrest.
He had everything that he was thinking about there. And they enjoy each other's company.
They have a good time, and they learn new skills and techniques from each other,
and they learn ways to prepare for each other.
And they're there even for those who don't really see or understand the need for that.
They're still there for those people, and that may be something that they'll be interested in.
But it really is about your neighborhood.
And riots can happen at any time.
You know, they don't have to, as we've seen through the lockdown,
even as we had a lockdown, we had riots in the summer of 2020.
So you can have all this stuff happening at the same time,
and typically it will happen at the same time, won't it?
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people I made a friend with a guy who's a a blogger I won't go into his name
he's capital Eric capitalist Eric is com uh writes some of the best articles uh
he's got degrees uh from about everybody and everything very intelligent guy uh he
he writes some extremely good financial articles and uh that's who he works for, a large financial company. He's an analyst. And what he writes and what he knows, there's an avalanche of issues building up financially.
Oh, yeah.
There's just no two ways about it.
That's right.
Financial issues obviously bring issues with supply and demand eventually.
And one of the things we talk about in our neighborhood group is wild edibles.
I don't care where you live.
I live in the desert.
There's enough food around here to support, uh, uh, uh, a substantial number of people.
Even in the desert, most people, even in the desert. It's just incredible.
I've eaten most all of the stuff that we look into,
but we have a particular type of tree here that puts off a seed that is life-sustaining.
The Indians basically lived off of it, you know, 100 years ago ago and they still eat this. So the point being that, uh,
financial issues, I think are going to bring some disruption with the supply chain.
Michael Yan,
who is the former special forces guy also,
and,
uh,
he's been embedded all over the world.
He puts a blog out and Michael Yan,
that's somebody you should have on,
uh,
David,
he's an intelligent man.
How do you spell his last name?
How do you spell his last name?
Y-O-N.
Y-O-N, okay.
Y-O-N.
Michael Yon, Y-O-N.
He's been 43 years,
he's been in virtually every conflict
in the face of this planet.
He has read 22 books on famine.
Seven of those books were of countries that were abundant with food, just as we are, and
turned to literally turn to cannibalism overnight.
Everything was disrupted.
This can happen.
Americans are not some special breed of people that are totally anointed by higher powers to be immune to this.
We are susceptible as everybody is.
And the point being, Michael Yon is predicting famine in this country in the next two to five years.
And I believe he's right.
I've read virtually everything he's put out. Matt Bracken, Matt Bracken, enemies foreign and domestic, former Navy SEAL officer.
He's been around and seen, his eyes have been open to what we do because he did a lot of
a classified.
Matt Bracken, one of the most intelligent, visionary people I've ever met.
Matt Bracken literally goes along with everything Jan says
because Matt Bracken has analyzed this too.
Famine coming to the country.
So people need to store food.
They need to store water.
They need to learn about wild edibles in their area.
And they also need to get to know farmers
and where you can get them chicken eggs and on and on and on
because this is something I've seen firsthand.
When you see an 8-year-old boy that's skin and bones covered with flies
and you try to give him some powdered milk and you end up,
he dies right there.
It doesn't leave you.
You know, you can see what it is.
And you've got some excellent chapters that people can see for free.
One of them I remember is about water.
And so if people go to civildefensemanual.com, there is a sample chapter there.
They can get an idea of the depth that you go into.
And I think really the wisdom that they find in this book.
But when you're talking about having massive starvation,
I was just talking earlier in the broadcast about Sri Lanka
and how the government there started shutting down farms
and created massive poverty and starvation in that country overnight.
It doesn't have to be war from abroad.
It can be your own country and our own country has talked about how they want
to shut down things on us, you know, vital things like food.
And we saw it being done in a way that they can have plausible deniability.
Well, we didn't know this was going to happen or, you know,
we just shut that thing down and look at all the secondary and tertiary effects
that it had propagating through, but they can do it themselves uh and they can do it overnight and we've seen i mean anybody
that we all know what happened during 2020 and all these uh you know whiplashes through the supply
chain all the rest of the stuff they pretend they didn't know what they were doing uh but i think
they did and i think they've got some more plans for this stuff. Oh, absolutely. There's no doubt in my mind that this is a test run.
The lunacy that is going on under the guise of climate change,
it's gone from climate warming to climate cooling,
and either one of those works,
or they just picked a neutral thing.
That term is uh climate change uh it i i don't have any there's no question
in my mind that we affect the planet to a degree but the degree we affected to is minuscule yeah
compared to the cyclic changes that we've had people don't realize we had an ice age back in
1452 the the people starved it wasn't just just the Irish potato famine, but we have these cycles
that go on, and we've moved into what's called a maunder solar minimum. We started about
11 years ago, and it's going to go on for, these things can last for five decades. This
is the major effect it has. At this time, we've got governments like Holland shutting farms down.
This is lunacy.
It leads me to believe that people that are pulling the strings, that really have control, want to have a lot less people on this planet.
And I truly believe it.
Let me just say one thing.
Most people can
survive i don't i've looked at the obesity when i was down in the big city uh i was going to say
most people going to buy uh can survive on body fat and muscle alone for three weeks some people
that i saw could last for five weeks i'm sure we're prepping already we
don't even know it you know it's it's gotten so it's gotten so pathetic that uh people are just
feeding their face all the time they have no concept of health and uh they apparently don't
care but people can survive for three weeks without food.
You can survive maybe three days without water.
I've gone two days in Africa, and we were in a forced march of 40 miles,
and I thought, I mean, I was going out of my head.
We finally got water, but nobody had water.
We had 150 guys moving through the bush, and there was nothing around there, no streams, no lakes, nothing.
People in a normal situation can last probably three days, and your mind starts shutting down, and you're incapable of doing anything.
Water is something everybody takes for granted, and yet nobody stores it.
Yeah, that's right.
And as I said, you've got a great chapter that people can see for free.
And let me just tell people, give them an idea.
These are just some of the chapters.
In Volume 1, you've got 17 chapters and a lot of indexes here,
but I'll just give people about five or six of these.
The reality of a catastrophic event, leadership steps,
building a neighborhood protection plan, leadership and psychopaths,
there must be a leader.
The core of your security guard duty, individual and cooperative tools,
supplies, equipment that you'll need.
Water, there's a whole chapter by itself.
Food, cooking, and storage.
Firearm basics and safety and surviving a gun battle.
And on and on.
And then when you get to the second volume, it's about health issues, hygiene,
sanitation, caring for the dead fire and
fire protection dental care alternative power i mean you cover the gamut of stuff that is there
and um and that's the key thing you know you've had a lot of experience farmer soldier uh with a
lot of experience and you brought in other people who have areas of specialty and um and and i like the fact that it's not online that it's not on
your computer it's in a book so that if everything goes down if they take the grid down they take the
internet down if there's an emp and your computer is fried uh you still got that reference manual
there and uh you can still the only way i refuse to put it out i've had people oh when are you
going to put it out even you know you're many circumstances happen, you're not going to be able to access anything on your computer.
Yep.
Your own computer may be totally trashed by an EMP.
The point being, I spent a lot of money putting this thing into a 14-point font, so you can read it by candlelight.
Yeah, and you've got about 500 pages in each one of these volumes.
It's a tremendous amount of information on a wide variety of things,
but you also go pretty deep, and I think people can see that
if they look at some of the sample chapters that you've got there.
It's important for people to have the knowledge,
to be preparing for some of this, to learn some of the skills.
And there are some great things there just for the kinds of supply chain disruptions
and the kind of disruption of medical care that we've already experienced.
You know, when you wrote this, that was something that nobody had seen, but we've already seen
that type of thing.
And the rest of these things, unfortunately, may be coming at us in the near future.
I'll just say this. I beg people
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People in this country are the strength of the country.
Yes.
Don't expect the federal government to help you.
Don't expect your local county, city, or the state.
Generally speaking, even though these people that are in these organizations for emergency management have good intentions. They generally, when the real critique of their effectiveness comes when there is a crisis,
and you can go through any crisis that's happening virtually in the country,
they're incapable of responding.
That's right.
Many of these organizations are hog-tied by their own regulations.
I'll never forget, one of our standing presidents, after Katrina,
ordered 12,000 trailers from Arkansas that were sitting,
government-owned, brand-new mobile homes to New Orleans.
And he ordered them, and they didn't move.
And he ordered them again, and he got really angry about this because he was on TV saying something.
And two years later, they moved the trailers.
They moved them off the place they were stored
so they could spend $8 million to gravel,
and then they put them right back where they were.
So that shows you just about how much, you know, you just get, you're on your own.
I'll tell you, I'll tell you one thing that people must do, even though you get together
with your neighbors, be careful of what you disclose as far as what you've got.
You're just going to have to take for granted that your neighbors got enough food and leave
it at that.
This is a cooperative effort.
This is not a communal where you dump everything in a pile and everybody's got to provide for
themselves.
And you have to keep some type of a confidentiality on this.
I'll give you an example of what happened. My wife went back to Rhodesia, now Zimbabwe,
after the communists had totally destroyed everything
by stripping the country of every asset they could take
so the communist leadership could have Bentleys gold-plated in London
and shipped down there just for the kids.
Yeah.
You know.
That's it.
That's what you say with these communists.
Sorry.
Yeah.
Well, the communist leadership had their own, you know, Neiman Marcus stores to go to that were in their own area where the roads were actually taken care of.
But generally, and all the facilities, utilities, everything worked.
But the point being, there were a lot of people were starving so my wife and her mother she
was my wife is getting my mother out of there and eventually got her to the
United States but the point being this one day the and and the Communists were
feeding the army and the police so So their security forces were fed,
but the average Joe in the street was starving to death.
And so my wife, they live in a walled-in area,
and one day the gate guard comes up,
Madame, there's a little girl that wants to talk to you.
So my wife goes to the gate,
and the gate guard opens the gate,
and there's this girl that is skin and bones in a filthy dress,
and my wife, she asked my wife if she could spare anything to eat.
My wife immediately had tears in her eyes.
She runs into the house.
She makes her big sandwich.
She takes it to the gate, gives it to the little girl,
gives her a bottle of water, and her
mother comes home.
And her mother, even though it's her daughter, raises, holy hell, what did you do that for?
And my wife was crying, and she said, well, I'll give up one of my meals for her.
And her mother said, that's not the point. And the point was very well made
about two hours later, there were 200 people standing at that gate. All of them, skin and
bones, not enough energy to tear the gates off the hinges, which if they were not in this condition, they would have gone in and taken the guards and my mother and
my father and my wife's food.
And that was the point.
If you feed, you cannot feed everybody.
You have to remind yourself of that.
As heartbreaking as that might be, the people that do not prepare are going to be asking
for food and unfortunately this gets into some hard psychology that i get into the in the book
and i specifically go into the area of psychopaths or what's sugar-coated known in the psychiatric
and and psychological world as sociopaths they're the most dangerous of the human race.
So there's issues that are in this book that people can only read to understand what you
have to do A to Z to survive.
That's why I like this book so much.
You have so much experience with things like that, places that you've been, and expertise in that.
And as you look at this, that's essentially the way the government sees everything and one of the reasons why you can't rely on the government.
As we saw with the L.A. riots back in the 90s after the Rodney King thing, they all circled the wagons and took care of themselves. You know, you had Daryl Gates, who was the first one to have any SWAT teams, the first
one to have any militarized police, and what did they do?
They circled the wagons and they protected the police stations and City Hall and everybody
else was on their own.
And we've seen this over and over again as we've seen cities that break down into riots.
And so part of that is that they're not going to be out there to protect you.
They realize that, uh, they're, uh, perhaps, uh, don't have enough to do that, but that's
not even going to be their focus.
Their focus is going to be on protecting themselves.
And so, um, yeah, it is important to understand that we've seen that time and again.
Uh, and, um, and we also know these, uh, these socialists and these Marxists, I guess we could call them Neiman Marxists, because over and over again, they go get the luxury goods and they let everybody else starve.
And we've seen that in one country after the other.
You know, Zimbabwe is just one of them.
It's great talking to you, Jack.
And it is an excellent book.
I would highly recommend this to anybody. I always do. It's always great talking to you, Jack. And it is an excellent book. I would highly recommend this to anybody.
I always do.
It's always great talking to you.
We'll get you back on without taking so long in between calls again.
I'll just say this.
People can go to www.civildefensemanual.com.
There's a lot of free information on there.
Yes.
I didn't just write this to make money.
I write this because i'm
concerned that people don't do something uh this country is going to be in terrible terrible
straits yes and and again you can see that with the most important thing which is as you point
out you can't do without water that's the number one thing you've got that chapter there for free
and people can get a taste of how detailed and the information is and how wise
it is really uh there's a lot of we've talked about this in the past and we'll talk about in
the future about um you know how the cowboys had eggs when they would go on the trail and the way
that you can preserve eggs and many other things like that that a lot of us have gotten so distant
from an agricultural society that we don't know anything about food
other than the supermarket, which I will find it there. And it's not going to be there when
things hit the fan. So it's very important that you start to think about these things.
We've already seen a lot of these things given a trial run. We've experienced a taste of them.
And I think they're going to be coming back in a big way for all of us. So again,
civil defense manual.com is where you can get some of the. So again, civildefensemanual.com
is where you can get some of the samples there
and where you can order it.
And you've actually got a thing there
where people can say where they heard about it.
We don't have a formal arrangement or anything like that.
I just recommend this book.
But let Jack know that you heard it here
at this broadcast if you go there.
So thank you, Jack.
It's great having you on.
Thank you, David.
It's always a pleasure.
Thank you, David. It's always a pleasure. Thank you.
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