The David Knight Show - INTERVIEW Richard Gage 20 Yrs of Data Debunks 9/11 Official Story

Episode Date: September 11, 2023

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on the anniversary of September 11th, joining us is Richard Gage, AIA, an architect of 30 years from the San Francisco Bay Area, a member of the American Institute of Architects, founder and former CEO of Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth. He's now independent. He, along with his courageous wife and assistant, Gail, continues to lead the charge toward a real investigation into the destruction of all three World Trade Center skyscrapers on 9-11. You can find him at Richardgage911.org. Mr. Gage became interested in researching the destruction of the World Trade Center high-rises after hearing the startling conclusions of the reluctant 9-11 researcher David Ray Griffin

on the radio in 2006, which launched his own unyielding quest for the truth about 9-11. The organization he founded, AE 9-11 Truth, now numbers more than 3,500 architects and engineers, demanding a new investigation into the destruction of all three World Trade Center high-rise buildings on 9-11. As an architect, he's worked on most types of building construction, including numerous fireproofed steel-framed buildings. Most recently, he worked on the construction documents for a $400 million mixed-use urban project with 1.2 million square feet of retail parking structure

and mid-rise office space. Altogether, about 1,200 tons of steel framing. Please welcome Richard Gage, AIA architect. Thank you so much sir thank you david it's an honor to be here with you well thank you uh let's talk a little bit about uh the key thing you know over my shoulder here it's a picture of 911 new york city the commemoration that they put up where they have two beams that are shining up into the sky interesting that they didn't do a third one let's talk about that third one yeah we did do a third one about uh what was it uh 10 years ago now we we actually rented four searchlights put up on the back of a pickup truck and then uh from where we were it looked like three beams it was all designed to to be that way and And we called the media in downtown, well, around New York and said, there's a third beam in the sky.

And we showed it to them and tried to create a thing out of it. The third beam is about Building 7. Building 7, most architects and engineers don't even know about the third worst structural failure in modern history. And most people in new york knew about building 70 didn't know it came down and most of them didn't know that it went back up again it was rebuilt so it's quite a story on the afternoon of 9 11 about 5 20 witnesses heard explosions then this building drops like a rock straight down uniformly symmetrically into its own footprint in under seven seconds so this is exactly like the old hotels in las vegas when they bring them down with controlled demolition that you know there's

explosions first and then the building drops well the building drops at free fall David uh straight uh straight down but free fall means as fast as a bowling ball falling from the sky so what does that mean that means that not one of the 81 columns in this building gave any resistance to this seven second long fall well where did they go there's 40 000 tons of structural steel framing in this building well nist says that it came down due to normal office fires but wait a minute we have never in history lost a steel frame fire protected building type one construction uh ever uh due to fires i mean we've had dozens of much hotter larger and longer lasting fires in these buildings yes so not one of them it's and then we've had many fully engulfed fires in these kind of structures after 9-11 but no not one of those came down either so we've got to have

a real investigation and in fact fema did that investigation for us and uh others have done it since but right away in 2002 fema finds in the metallurgical sampling of the steel a hot corrosion attack on the steel its author jonathan barnett a fire protection engineer says the ends of the beams were partly evaporated and extraordinarily like temperatures well what does that mean i'll stop and let you i'll take a breath and you tell an ordinary office fire and you know i would just say to the people because i've done this uh and i think everybody needs to do this just go to youtube and look up building demolitions and you can watch, you've got so many videos that have been put up, they just chain one after the other. Watch all those and ask yourself if this is something that just happened out of ordinary office fires. Just not possible that this type of thing would have happened.

I remember you mentioned that it was 2006 when you saw an interview of the researcher talking about this that got you interested in it yeah this happened my recollection we we didn't have uh video we didn't have any television and so i didn't see any video of it we had horrible internet as well at the time in 2001 we were living out in the woods it wasn't we weren't doing some kind of homesteading thing we were just in an area where it was dead in terms of broadcast signals in terms of internet and all the rest of stuff so i was relying on friends and family calling because we had family in new york we actually had a family member who was in one of the buildings and then got out and so i'm listening to this and it's like these planes are hitting the building then they call back later and they

say one of them just collapsed and in my mind i saw this thing going down at an angle taking out a large part of manhattan it wasn't until years later that i really saw these things going right down into the footprint it's like what what's going on with that you know they said well it didn't hit any other buildings i'm thinking how in the world did that happen and then when i saw it in freefall that was you know when it's like okay okay I know I was mainly concerned with what, how they were using this event to take away our liberties. But then I saw what that was. And it's like, oh yeah, that, that perfectly fits exactly.

It really does. And the evidence that they just give it to us. I mean, hot sulfur corrosion attack on the steel. Well, uh, guess what fire, especially normal office fires, do not corrode steel with silver dollar sized holes. It just doesn't happen. Steel is not flammable. And yet, out of the towers are ejected laterally four and eight ton structural steel sections at 600, landing 600 feet away. Wow. Ejected at 80 miles an hour laterally.

Wow. Clocked by physicists. So these sections are freely flying flying you can see them in the videos there's thousands of them and they uh are on fire well steel is not flammable in office fire conditions so here's yet another of the dozens of pieces of evidence we're going to talk about that gives us absolutely, this is not a classic progressive collapse, as NIST claims. They claim that the upper part of the North Tower and the South Tower drove the rest of the building down to the ground and then destroyed itself well that violates newton's third law of physics there's an equal and opposite destruction when two bodies collide though the top part is the lightest it's the weakest it would have crushed it it destroyed

itself even coming into contact with the first part of the cold hard heavy steel intact um and not hot uh so uh that that gives it away but what really gives it away is the videos they don't show in these towers either um of any other videos a a a top section driving the rest of the building down to the ground uh at all that's right it would have to be a little bit of a delay it had to be a little bit of delay as one section hits the next one you know it would go down it would have jolted but it's a sudden smooth transition the upper part is destroying itself actually it's not driving the rest of the building down to the ground. It's telescoping in on itself, disintegrating its internal cohesive structure. And you see these squibs coming out,

particularly the South Tower. Dozens of them, squibs, are isolated explosive ejections. And they're emerging simultaneously out of the south tower and you're going what's that you have to kind of look for some of these videos but they're they're everywhere to find well it begins to tip over the south tower but the as it's doing that these explosions are coming off of it and um it it then begins to settle back because it lost its internal integrity there. below that the first responders heard 156 of them are on record orally in the uh orally record oral recordings they call them by thomas von nissen the chief fire commissioner he he required everybody to be recorded because he didn't want the memory to be reshaped by a collective memory because his words well 156 of these first responders talking about explosions,

hearing explosions, seeing explosions, being blown around the building by explosions, like a belt, all these explosions going all the way around the building. Others further away said, like a train running under my feet. Like you wanted to grab onto something. The firefighters said like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Like they wanted to take down a building. These are all on record. Happiness. We all know what it feels like.

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these are very different um uh damage patterns to these buildings through the fires and the planes the columns breaking but they all come down symmetrically uniformly and you can see the belts of explosions advancing rapidly down the face of the building uh individual explosions uh 12 of them you can actually count them in the close-up you can't but don't believe your lying eyes just listen to the government it's crazy and you know as you pointed out it's not just the free fall collapse we've had a lot of fires before and even since we have steel buildings that will burn for days and i've i've shown those when they happen you see a twisted metal skeleton but it doesn't collapse you know it might be bent over a little bit and everything but it's still there because of that steel frame

even though the thing burned for days and so nothing makes sense out of this as an architect you know when you look at this one of the big smoking guns about this as well is why haven't there been any changes in the way that they do firefighting? Why haven't there been any changes in architectural rules? Why haven't there been any lawsuits against the people who designed this building or against the New York where they had the code and they did the inspection on this because they had already had a plane that had hit the Empire State Building way back when. And so they knew that was a possibility. That was something that they designed for, right? Yep, they did.

John Skilling said this plane could take two hits from a 707, which when they were built in 73 was the largest building to a plane of its kind. But the problem would be, he said, that the fuel would dump into the building, but the building would still be there. Well, it's fireproofed. Yes, it should have still been there. there um but if we look we can get a clue david if we actually look at the uh in in the dust in the aftermath what does the u.s geological survey find in every sample previously molten iron microspheres billions of them all the samples up to six percent of some of these samples all of them are molten iron microspheres what does that mean iron we haven't used iron in our skyscrapers for

100 years this is elemental iron not steel it's molten meaning it achieved 2800 degree temperatures which fires don't even get a quarter that hot typically these fires were probably less than that because they're indicated by the thick black smoke they were going out at the time of of the uh collapse their oxygen starved so we the the usgs finds these microspheres spheres because aerosolized liquids form themselves into spheres by surface tension. That's just what they do. The EPA says, we don't know what these molten iron microspheres are or where they came from, but they're a signature component of the World Trade Center dust.

In other words, it's not even World Trade Center dust unless it has these billions of microspheres in them rj lee an environmental concern uh confirmed doing work on the this dust says these are formed not before but the the uh when the building was being built by the welders not afterward uh by the iron workers taking it, but during the event. Well, wait a minute. What does that mean? Iron, molten iron, is the byproduct of thermite. Thermite is an incendiary used by the military to cut through steel like a hot knife through butter. So we have all the dust giving us exactly what happened here. We're talking about thermite uh the residue

of thermite everywhere in the dust every sample in fact the innate a team of eight International scientists led by Niels Herod in Copenhagen find all of those and they confirm that but they also confirm something that uh others have not found and this is uh little chips of red gray material they thought it was paint but it's attracted to a magnet so it has a high iron content well you go well this is interesting why does it have a high iron content they do xeds analysis x-ray energy dispersal spectroscopy, what do they find? Aluminum and iron, the key ingredients of thermite in the red layer of these dual-layered red-gray chips. They go, whoa, we got to get to the bottom of this. They zoom in 50,000 times and they find nanoparticles of iron oxide and aluminum powder. Now we're talking about super thermite nanothermite they identify it as thermite because not only do they know the key ingredients they put it in a

heater a differential scanning calorimeter and it ignites what does it do when it ignites it makes all of these molten iron microspheres with the same chemical signature as the molten iron microspheres found in the dust by the U.S. Geological Survey, R.J. Lee, and others. So we know exactly where those molten iron microspheres came from. They came from these red-gray chips. So we have unignited evidence of unignited thermite in the molten iron microspheres and evidence of ignited thermite. I got it backwards. Ignited thermite in the molten iron microspheres, unignited thermite in these red-gray chips,

which are ubiquitous in all the seven samples that they had independently collected all over Manhattan. Wow. From all over Manhattan they were sent to them so uh this is pretty incredible because when you reduce the size of these uh particles in these chips to nano that's a thousand times smaller than the diameter of a human hair uh the surface volume increases exponentially. So the chemical reaction is virtually instantaneous. You've engineered an incendiary, which works by means of massive heat, to become more explosive, which works by knocking things over. In fact, it does that.

Let me interject and say it's kind of like what we see when we'll see a grain elevator explode or something. It's because the fine particles there can ignite because of the increase in surface area. This is something that is already set up to ignite in the first place. Well, you mean the grain elevator? Yeah, I mean, it's small particles of grain, but you know, when you talk about this, it's small particles of thermite. Right, well, where does it come from? It says small particles of grain, but you know, when you talk about this, it's small particles of thermite. Right. Well, where does it come from? Thermite is made only in the most advanced defense contracting laboratories. Excuse me, nanothermite.

This is very special. Lawrence Livermore exposed this to us before 2001. They developed the peer-reviewed literature on it. They called it super thermite uh they did these tests on it and yeah it ignites at 758 degrees in in the in the differential scanning calorimeter and that's exactly what these seven independent samples did so we know exactly what this stuff is they put out a 24-page peer-reviewed paper on this in the Bentham Open Chemical Physics Journal in 2009. And it's literal proof now we've had for, you know, more than 10 years of this material.

Haven't yet nobody submitted their own peer-reviewed paper to challenge these results it stands uncontested so i mean people will say oh that's just paint but it's been proven six ways from sunday that these are extremely exotic materials and responsible for the destruction of all three world trade center skyscrapers on 9 11. if we got it into a court of law david, it would put the real perpetrators away for mass murder and treason. Yes. Yeah, it reminds me of what happened a week after 9-11. That's the anthrax attacks. At first they said, well, this is coming from Iraq.

And then they said, well, no, it's a special kind of anthrax. And then as they look further, as they tried to found a patsy they wanted to blame it on, turns out that the delivery mechanism, just like you're talking about how this is not just ordinary thermite, it's super thermite. They found that the delivery mechanism for this anthrax was also something that was limited to just two labs in the United States. And of course, this guy that they'd picked for the Patsy

didn't work at one of those two labs. The bottom line is that the technology is very advanced. It allows them to get away with this stuff. But it also points directly to them at the same time. Yes, it's a blessing that they've left us with. They do make mistakes. I mean, they're big. They've got lots of money.

They've got evil intentions, it seems. They're murdering 3 3 000 of their own people here and yes and you know since in the in the latest uh uh false flag operation in the last three years with the disease that's going around it's false disease with its false solution um they've got a lot of power and influence, obviously. But we capitalize on... And they just had this last week, just before the anniversary, they said that they used DNA to identify two more victims of this. And they seem to find the victims just before the anniversaries,

you know, when this starts to happen. And there's still over a thousand people that disappeared on that day that they have not identified, they said, with DNA. Let's talk a little bit about the symmetry in the pile and the destruction of evidence. Well, in the pile, first of all, you brought this up. This is extremely important. There's more than 1,100 people for which there was no trace found. I mean, 6000 pieces they did find were small enough to fit into a test tube. And they were distributed six to 800 feet

outside each of the towers. So the explosive mechanism was incredible i mean yes we found 300 whole bodies we we should have found 3 300 um 2700 um a lot of people literally blown to bits absolutely in fact there were bone fragments a half an inch long uh found on top of the the uh roof of the deutsche bank building across the street from the south tower uh how did they get there uh we're talking these bodies should have been trapped between 110 floors yes each of which uh is made of four and eight inch thick concrete uh and none of which are found at the base of the tower. We don't have an acre in size, these floors. We don't have 50 of them. We don't have 10 of them.

We don't have one of them. What we do have at the base is a four-, five-story pile of twisted steel. Where's the concrete? It's been pulverized in midair. All the photos, all the videos show just that. And it's been laid like a blanket of 100 micron average size dust across lower Manhattan from river to river, three square miles of dust. That's where the concrete is, which means what? That the concrete is not available to crush the building. Right.

If it's been distributed and pulverized in midair, well, neither is the steel. About 95% or more of the steel has been ejected laterally, like we talked about, outside the building's footprint. That's 100, thousand tons of steel uh that's not available to crush the building either and yet that's the whole theory i've missed it's there's so many ways to take apart that that story they said it drove the building down to the ground it wasn't there yeah to drive the building down to the ground and yes the North Tower particularly came down almost symmetrical which means all of those columns had to give way at once otherwise it would have tipped over like you said no jolt it would have hit the cold hard

intact steel it might have fallen over if it was to be that badly damaged. But in reality, the initiation of collapse never would have started. And if it did, it would have slowed down and stopped. That's been proven by physicists as well. But we don't have the platform that we need to prove these things. Yes, yes. So much for the domino theory of NIST, right? I mean, we've had domino theories that lied us into a Vietnam War.

Now we have this domino theory about the collapse of the buildings. It absolutely is amazing. Yeah, much of that, you're very thorough in terms of this. And of course, you've been on this for a very, very long time. What about the destruction of the evidence? evidence. I remember a lot of people that are still suffering after all these years was because they were so bent on getting this stuff removed, as much of it as they could, and subjecting people to the dust because at that point in time, they didn't care about masks. They care all about masks now, but they didn't then. And so it was a mad rush to remove a lot of this evidence, a lot of stuff that was still burning, right? Yeah, within two weeks after 9-11. This evidence is taken

out from under the noses of those who would investigate it, like structural engineer Abulhazan Astani-Azul from UC Berkeley, given a National Science Foundation grant to study the steel. He said they're taking all the steel to China to put in a melting pot for 15 cents a pound. That's nothing. That's what he says. And others couldn't get their hands on it to do a proper forensic investigation. 400 truckloads per day were lined up starting just two weeks after 9 11 taking this to put it steel

and putting it on barges sent to china for recycling i mean and prompting bill manning editor-in-chief of fire engineering magazine to cry out on his magazine the mag the magazine that ties all the fire protection engineers together in this country. Crucial evidence, he says, is on the slow boat to China, showing an astounding ignorance of government officials to the value of a thorough scientific investigation. The destruction of evidence must stop. It didn't, of course. It continued at an incredible pace. This is the illegal destruction of evidence in a crime scene. But guess what?

This was an act of war because of the attack on the Pentagon. So they were not bound, they said or imagined, by the rules of preservation of evidence. Wow. Yeah, it was an attack of war, wasn't it? But not from the people that they identified. And that's the key thing when you look at this, the government story, regardless of what happened, the government story is just not even close to being possible. And that's why you got involved in this, investigating it. Talk about the jet planes themselves and information that you found from that. Happiness. We all know what it feels like, but sometimes it doesn't come easy. I'm Garvey Bailey, the host of Happy Enough,

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They're picking them up. They're putting them in the bin. The FBI is supervising that part of it so they can control it certainly uh because they don't want they don't want those parts getting out they got the wrong cereal what does that mean well if you were going to execute a plan to bring down the tallest buildings in the world at least in 1973 and one of the largest in Manhattan each each each floor of this building was the size of a football field um would you trust and this one wasn't hit by a plane of course and it came down anyway but for these two would you trust hijackers who failed Cessna Flying School to bring those planes to their targets? Probably not.

In fact, there was remotely guided aircraft technology in those planes at the time, though it was not well known. And this has been researched by several others including captain dan hanley who runs uh pilot whistleblowers and uh 911pilots.org you can learn more about that um but yeah there's there's some real problems with these with these planes where they switched out were more, uh, refined military craft used with the same fuselage and wings, uh, which they had. And some people actually said they saw, uh, a, a gray plane. So were they even, did they have time to paint it? I don't even know.

Um, now when you say the different serial numbers uh where did that uh where the different serial numbers come from well that's got to be or what well there i don't have the details on that david um there's some things i research and there's some things i i i hear that have been researched that research does exist sure i'm not the source of it. And on top of my head, I can't take you there. Yeah, that's not you. You focus more on the architectural stuff in the buildings.

You know, I find it interesting. And I've said this before, that there really wasn't, even though we knew that there was remote control capability for, you know, commercial jets and things like that because they had used remote control to crash them as they would look to see what happened to occupants inside during a crash, just like you got crash test dummies for cars. They did that for airplanes for years. And then immediately after this, you've got the war in Afghanistan. The stars of the war were the autonomous drones and things like that. And so, you know, they come out here.

Oh, by the way, you know, it's we got this fleet of these things now, you know, they kind of kept it under wraps in terms of doing that. But even going back back into the 1960s, they'd even talked about an Operation Northwoods that they would do exactly this type of thing in order to create public opinion around an attack on Cuba. So we could fly these planes into buildings. We could take them out and fake the fact that there are people on board and say it was blown up over the sea. We could even use it to attack military stations. And we could use all that then and identify Cuba as the people doing it in a false flag operation.

That was what Operation Northwoods was all about. They had proposed that JFK shut it down, but they had already proposed that back in the early 1960s. And so for the longest time, they'd had the capability of doing remote control commercial jets. You know, it was nothing new, even though it seemed new to the public. It was not in the public eye. And in fact, remote control goes all the way back to World War II, where we even had remote control. We didn't have to use kamikazes. There's a plane in Florida in an Air Museum, Air Force Museum, that is noted specifically for its remote control capability back in World War II. So this is not, you know, some kind of sci-fi thing, futuristic.

Talk about, did you get involved, were you primarily involved with the three buildings in New York? And of course, that's a key part of it. You know, everybody says know everybody says well you know it was hit by a plane and then it caught on fire in the plane and but you know that the airplane fuel and everything they believe that that would do that and you've you've addressed that but the building seven was a key thing because it was not hit by an airplane it wasn't loaded with airplane fuel and all the rest of stuff that's why they don't like to talk about Building 7. Even NIST. NIST says in the case of the planes that did hit these, 90% of the fuel was burned up

outside the building. NIST is the National Institute of Standards and Technology. It was tasked by Congress to explain these collapses to the American people. They said the rest was gone, burned up in just 10 minutes. So, we didn't have any jet fuel in these buildings uh for about an hour while they were burning almost an hour less than the south

town um so yeah you're right but you know the public perception is well you know of course they collapsed they were hit by jets and all this kind of but building seven was not hit by a jet you know the key thing is three buildings but only only two planes, you know, and that, that's the key. Do the math. Yeah, exactly. It's like two plus two equals five, you know, it's, um, and you've got witnesses that hear explosions here.

Uh, Kevin McPatton says like, boom, like you, like you were, you wanted to grab onto something. I knew that was an explosion you know because people who tell the truth around these matters they get ridiculed and so they try to be very specific the first responders were extremely specific with regard to their quotes before the towers came down and then many of them saw flashes of light but in in darl, a medical student in the case of Building 7, says we were watching the building and there was a clap of thunder and then the building came down, crashing down. Yeah, that's interesting.

Very specific. Bill Rosati says there's a flash of light in this building and a loud explosion wow well give us all the evidence we need uh have you uh been focused on the pentagon uh and uh what happened there or are you primarily focused on the new york buildings yeah i am focused on the new york buildings but uh at the Pentagon, while there's controversy among 9-11 truth researchers about what did or didn't hit it, all of us agree that we need a new investigation. For instance, we have Honey Honger, who

failed Cessna Flying School himself, who is said to have maneuvered this 757 coming into the Pentagon, not dropping through the vulnerable roof structure to Donald Rumsfeld's office. Now, that could have been done, a dive bomb, but a 270-degree turn and dropping 3,000 feet per minute in what's more of a fighter jet-type maneuver, coming straight in and level with the ground, hitting what?

The Naval Intelligence Department, who was tasked with locating and accounting for the $2.3 trillion that Donald Rumsfeld had announced the day before 9-11 was missing from the Pentagon budget or unaccountable in it. So that's really suspicious. Oh. I had a, I had a friend who was in the military, went to West Point. He was telling me, you know, years before that talking about cruise missiles and stuff. He said,

you know, we can, they're so accurate. We can pick which window of the Kremlin we want to fly them through. Oh, no. And then I had a personal experience, which I,

I was caught between Karen and I, my wife were in this tourist shop in an area in Texas, down in Wimberley. And there was a lady there. And she and her husband had retired from the military. And it was a slow season. And my wife is looking through. And I'm just kind of standing there. And she was desperate to talk to somebody. She just starts monologuing about their career and how they came here.

And she said, you know, when I used to work for the Pentagon, we were finding trillions of dollars that were missing. And we had all kinds of people taking early retirement to avoid being incriminated and everything. She goes, and then my husband retired and I followed him. We came here and did this. And she said, you know, it was really a blessing because it was in my very office where that thing flew. And she could not connect the dots. It's just amazing. You know, she did not connect the dots. I said, who do you listen to for news?

Some Fox and CNN and stuff like that. It's like, okay, okay. And she's never heard anybody question that. I imagine if she heard it, it would all of a sudden, it would click with her like that, but it didn't. And, you know, I'm sitting there, I'm thinking, I need to get my phone out and start recording this this but i was afraid she was going to stop talking so i just you need to stick me on her everybody who sees this evidence and we're just talking about it right david but when i i have a a 30 minute an hour and a two hour presentation that i do on these subjects and it is overwhelming to watch this building seven

dropping as fast as a bowling ball falling out of the sky we've all seen the old hotel so we know immediately what it is yeah we know it was taken out therefore we know it was part of the 9-11 conspiracy i mean uh there's they had to it takes months of planning to execute these controlled demolitions. So in Building 7, they say nobody died in this building, although there's one witness, Barry Jennings, who says he was crawling over dead bodies to get out of that building. the public is more open to building seven because it doesn't have the trauma associated with all of those deaths and the incredible jumping out of the plane out of the building and then the planes hitting uh the buildings so we start with building seven and people go oh of course that's a control demolition that's what we do at the American Institute of Architects conventions. Before they kicked us out, we had gone to five of these conventions.

And architects stopped. We're the busiest booth there. They come around and they just look at this controlled demolition. We say, well, do you know when this happened? Because they say it's a controlled demolition on the monitor in front of them. And we go, they go, no, I don't know when that happened well that happened on 9 11. what that's not a twin tower no it's not this is the third tower we tell them what happened and uh then they're open to looking at the towers and all of the incredible uh evidence that we have there just like a geometry of fireworks freely flying

structural steel sections uh laterally distributed trailing thick white smoke clouds on fire which is the thermite of course and and can only be that it looks more like a volcanic eruption in the tongan sea in 2009 we show them that and compare the two you can't tell the difference wow wow that's amazing uh what about um you know the uh what was it Shel Silverstein was that his name they had buildings have the same place Silverstein okay yeah yeah well let me say because that's that's really important. A year later, Larry Silverstein's interviewed on America Rebuilds, and he's talking about Building 7. He's asked about it.

He goes, well, there's been such terrible loss of life. I was talking to the fire commander. Maybe the smartest thing to do is pull. And so they gave the order to pull, and we watched the building come down. That's the owner who built this building here he says later oh i didn't mean pull the building i meant pull the firefighters out of the building well guess what they weren't in the building they were told not to fight the fire they were told it was going to come down because the structure was weakened. It could come down on its own. So we're

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So hundreds of firefighters were nearby watching the building with these few small scattered fires that were in it and they're waiting for it to come down and sure enough after these mysterious construction workers walking away from building seven, hearing an explosion over their shoulder in the late afternoon of nine 11, looking back at the building and then looking straight into the CNN camera and saying this, you hear that? Well, that building's coming down a flame of debris coming down.

Yeah. It's going to blow up. Wow. It's amazing. It has a few small scattered fires yeah it is yeah and and it's uh so so what is the status of 9-11 i mean uh many of us have looked at this the evidence that you have given is just astounding and it demands an answer and uh and yet um everybody seems to turn a blind eye to it for for the most part, in official circles.

What is the status of any investigation? What is the hope of any investigation with this? They're on notice. All 435 members of Congress, or is it 535? We've given them our petition. Every third year or so we go to Washington, D.C., we give them the latest DVD, the latest book, the latest efforts we're making. We talk to their staffers.

They're very interested. They say, oh, I'm going to get this in to the congressperson. This is really important. But nothing ever happens. So they're going to be held accountable one way or another. The media, of course, won't even talk to us. They won't. We've given, well, it's not completely true.

Geraldo Rivera had one of the family members, one of the engineers on, and he said, this looks suspicious to me, particularly Building 7. Now I know why there's 1350 architects and engineers demanding a new investigation well uh there's 3600 now right I'm separated from uh the organization architects and engineers for 9 11 truth but they continue focusing on getting the engineers going. I work on the public and the media where I can get in. But the way we're going to get a real investigation is by educating the public and getting a grand jury investigation, which is why we've submitted this evidence in 60 exhibits to the U.S. attorney for a special grand jury investigation. Now, he's done nothing with it, and so we've sued him. And that's gone through

the legal process, and now we're going to be taking the evidence to a federal judge to be given directly to a special grand jury, and we're making a set of film, 9-11 Crime Scene to Courtroom. And that is a series of two dozen episodes with myself and 24 experts giving the evidence in a boardroom jury, a grand jury setting with our stand-in grand jurors. We present all the evidence and Mick Harrison, the litigation director for the Lawyers Committee for 9-11 Inquiry, whose board I sit on also, we're partnering and making this film. He's going to be educating the grand jury and the public about what are the implications of each different type of evidence that we're going to be presenting,ewitness testimony forensic evidence etc and he'll give them their opportunities to subpoena people who might they subpoena for more information about this what are their duties their obligations so uh it's it's an extraordinary film we filmed it already in washington dc we're raising funds for the completion of it in post production and so people can actually get this film film produced by becoming a co-producer.

And your name's on the credits with a $500 donation. So all that can be done here at richardgage911.org. So we encourage you guys to help us. That's great. Yeah. And so, yeah, richardgage911 911.org and people can help to crowdfund that and to complete it because you've already as you said you filmed a great deal of it i just need to get that together that'd be very important to do you know uh richard i was um i was talking

to jay warner wallace a couple of weeks ago um he is a cold case detective. And they would go back and look at, at murder scenes where all they've got is the evidence and the people, the witnesses to the crime or whatever have long since died. The detectives have died, but they've got that stuff there. That's why what you're doing is so important. And of course he, he eventually became a Christian. Then he applied those same types of investigation to looking at the veracity of the biblical account, Christian account.

But the key is what we're looking at here is we've got over 3,000 murders just in New York. This is something that is not going to go away. Just as we see with JFK's situation, there's a lot of people who have maybe not yet come forward, but you have collected so much information, that ought to be damning in and of itself. And this is something that may be done by future generations, but the truth will eventually be discovered. And I think it'll happen when the people who have a vested interest in the lies have been removed from the scene. Vous voulez une fraction de l'entreprise qui diffuse vos balados favoris? Ou une tranche de l'entreprise qui diffuse vos balados favoris? Ou une tranche de l'entreprise qui fait vos burgers préférés? Ou une fraction du transporteur avec lequel vous aimez voyager?

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And, you know, we looked at the beginning. I came at this from look at how they're using this, right, how they're using this to destroy the Constitution. And they've laid so many authoritarian foundations for our government by using this event. And that in and of itself is criminal by itself. And that's another angle of attack to this. But the deaths of these people, I think this is going to continue to go on. I think people are going to demand an answer to this stuff. And the evidence that you guys have put together continues to expand.

People are still looking at this, and it is going to continue to expand because there is so much evidence there. People can continue to investigate that, and the investigation is going to continue until we get to the end of this. Again, you know, when you look at these architects and engineers, to me, another smoking gun about this is just the fact that they haven't changed any firefighting procedures. They haven't changed any building codes based on this. They want us to believe that this is an ordinary fire that took down Building 7, but no building code changes. Is that correct? Are you aware of any? There's no changes to the structural codes at all.

They've added some fireproofing. They've added some stairs, get people out faster, but nothing to keep a building from free falling due to a few small scattered fires. So that's telling. It's extremely telling. And the firefighting policies, they're still going into burning buildings without fear of them coming down because they don't know about Building 7. It wasn't the big controversy in architecture or in firefighting manuals. The NFPA doesn't even discuss it, and yet it's the third worst structural failure in modern history due to fires,

and the National Fire Protection Association is ignoring it, which is why we went to their convention in Las Vegas this summer and before that,oston oh good last year good and we had a booth and we had firefighters there with us eric lawyer of firefighters for 9-11 truth and i and others were educating fire protection engineers we had the monitor up they come by did you know when this building came down oh no uh again the whole story they're just blown away because we we go into they say we go into uh skyscrapers uh routinely to put out fires big fires much bigger than the few small uh fires they had in building seven yeah so uh their policies have not changed that because and and

i'm one of 90 000 members of the american institute of architects and we have not received one bulletin on this major disaster of a collapse uh it it wasn't it was just completely swept under the rug oh yeah yeah yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I remember years ago, I talked to Tony Rook of the UK, and they were trying to get firefighters together there to ask these same questions. You know, because they're using the same kind of rules as we do, the same kind of guidelines for the building. Do you realize Building 7 wasn't hit by a plane that burned down ordinary fire, supposedly, according to them? Why aren't we changing anything that we do and um so this is this is a concern that um beyond this country in terms of people looking at these rules tell us what you're

doing today in new york i know you're there for a special event yeah it's an exciting day uh for uh those of us who have the passion in our hearts to reach the public, I know it's a very sorrowful day, too, because we lost so many. But this is the opportunity for us to tell them the truth about those who died and how and why. Some people get into the why, I don't as much. But we'll be at Ground Zero on Veazey Street near Building 7 all day. And we brought hundreds and hundreds of brochures to hand out.

We're gonna be telling people that right there stood Building 7, 47 stories. It came down to, it wasn't hit by a plane. Did you hear about it? I heard something about it. It's fairly typical, but then you give them the facts and they just wake up and give them the brochure, which has a complete outline of all the information we discussed, which is, by the way, available, our brochure, our DVDs, the documentary 9-11 Explosive Evidence Experts Speak Out is on our website,

richardgage911.org. But we tell them all of this, and there's some people who can't hear it, David. They'll get angry. And we give them love. We were there, too. I was. and we give them love. We were there too. I was. I wanted to go into Afghanistan and Iraq and get those you-know-whats that did this to us.

I was a flag-waving Reagan Republican. When I heard David Ray Griffin on the radio in the San Francisco Bay Area, March 29th, my world turned upside down as I was hearing this evidence and went to see him speak the next night they were sold out 600 people packed in the grand lake theater i had to go home and watch on live stream uh i i had to i had to prove this so i i did made a powerpoint i took it to the firm i worked for 14 architects because they had thought i was kind of nuts. But over the next couple of months, I assembled this research. I took it to them. I bought them pizza. I made them come in and drive them.

Forty-five minutes of visual technical evidence. All of them agreed. Oh, my God. You're right. These are controlled demolitions. We've got to have a real investigation. Now there's 3 3600 architects and engineers demanding just that well thank you so much for for caring about the truth and and you're

consistent holding to it and pushing for you know that's the key thing if you've got the truth it's the other people who run away from this the other people don't want to debate it the other other people who don't want to show what is there. You've got the truth. You're not worried about debating it. Now, the documentary you mentioned, Explosive Evidence, that's at richardgage911.org. That is not the one that is currently under crowdsourcing, right? There's already one that's finished. Is that correct? Well, yeah, that one combined experts, and that was made 10 years ago, 9-11 explosive evidence. Now we're propelling it into a new dimension, 9-11 crime scene to courtroom. That's the one that we're finishing up. We've already filmed it it's been filmed in washington dc at the supreme court and at our

venue for a special grand jury uh investigation it's it's it's extraordinary it's the most comprehensive body of evidence we've ever compiled also which is why it's 24 episodes but they range from 10 minutes to 20 minutes each that's great well. Well, you know, that's the key thing. And again, I just want to thank you because I know that it's difficult to swim against the tide. And, you know, when you tell somebody something that they don't want to believe, they've already heard something else. And the government is pushing and all the authorities and the experts are pushing in a different direction. And this is settled. You know, we hear that we got settled science about climate. We've got settled science about the pandemic and all the rest of the stuff.

And when the experts in the government are all telling you this and you come out with it, you know, then they've got these pejorative terms that they throw at you, conspiracy theorists and all the rest of the stuff. You're a lunatic. You're tinfoil hat and the rest of this. So kudos to you for standing by what you know to be true for so many years and for pushing this. It is making a difference. The truth is eventually going to be understood for so many years and for pushing this it is making a difference the truth is eventually going to be understood by the wide majority of people and the people who are going to be um tart and feathered uh by future generations uh in retrospect are the people who lied to us and who continue to cover this stuff up so thank you so much much for doing that. Again, it is richardgage911.org.

And I even had someone, Richard, contact me. We'd already set up the interview, and he said, I hope you cover 9-11 on Monday. I'm in New York. So that listener, you can find Richard there at the site of Building 7, and he'll be there all day, right? Is that correct? Yep. You bet. Good. Thank you so much for what you're doing. A tireless pursuit of truth. site of building seven and he'll be there all day right is that correct yep you bet good thank you

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