The David Knight Show - INTERVIEW Shiva: SCOTUS Speech Case Was Rigged to Fail

Episode Date: July 1, 2024

Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai, Shiva4President.com, ShatterTheSwarm.com, @va_shiva on XThe recent trashing of Free Speech by the Supreme Court in Murthy vs Missouri.  Why was Shiva's case in Massachusetts not ...used with its clear government involvement in censorship?The debateBottom up solutions to "The Swarm"Find out more about the show and where you can watch it at TheDavidKnightShow.comIf you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-showOr you can send a donation throughMail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @DavidKnightShow@protonmail.comCash App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Money should have intrinsic value AND transactional privacy: Go to DavidKnight.gold for great deals on physical gold/silverFor 10% off Gerald Celente's prescient Trends Journal, go to TrendsJournal.com and enter the code KNIGHTBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All right, folks, joining us now is Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai. Glad to have him on. He's running for president, shiva4president.com. Now, he live-streamed the debate on Twitter, like a lot of other people did, and gave his comments in real time, so we want to talk to him about the debate. But as I was talking to him off air, he's very interested in talking about the Supreme Court cases and the First Amendment infringements that came from those, and I am too. I've talked about them some on Friday.
Starting point is 00:00:27 Thank you for joining us, Dr. Shiva. Good to be here, David. How are you? Doing good. Doing good. Good. David, what I wanted to do was, as many people know, I was heavily involved, probably the centerpiece of the entire discovery of the fact that the government of the united states in fact all governments of the world have a backdoor censorship portal into every social
Starting point is 00:00:51 media company yes in my 2020 case david you may remember i uncovered um in courtroom testimony the fact that the government of massachusetts had coerced twitter or twitter would never have thrown me off had it not been for um the government of massachusetts because i exposed the fact that the government of massachusetts had destroyed ballot images which is a violation of the federal law when i went to do my own audit of how possibly i could have lost my election to a guy who had no lawn signs nothing in massachusetts any everyone can go to winbackfreedom.com i don't want to go through that i've talked about that extensively but it was my work my representing myself in court which exposed the fact bear
Starting point is 00:01:36 view to half a billion people all over the world that the government of the united states starting in 20 well it was trump who created saisa unanimously approved by both wings of congress both wings of congress 99 were funded by apac right both wings of congress supported the execution of a law which allowed the creation of infrastructure for government to coerce social media companies to do their bidding or more probably better to have a collusion between social media companies and government as one entity what some people call State imperialism you know so that's what I uncovered and most important was my case showed conclusively with evidence that the government coercing Twitter to do that period and that's why i won my federal injunction in court
Starting point is 00:02:27 now except you david and a few other people who covered that case none of the mainstream media grifters including glenn greenwald who i consider a grifter and we can talk about it or i call him effer carlson right i'll be kind on your show right um uh none of these they actually concealed it for two years and they spoke about it in the so-called Twitter files acting like they had discovered this but the reality was they concealed it during the most important time when it needed to be brought out that's what these guys always do it's called the limited CIA hangout all right anyway after i exposed all this david interesting enough they found two other brown guys people look like me indian guys one of them is a guy called jade butacharia who had promoted lockdowns in a scientific paper in 2020 all right out of
Starting point is 00:03:20 stanford you know my stuff was going viral and this is what happens when an independent agent like me brings out the truth or you david what they do is it's a very insidious technique they don't want to give limelight to the independent people bring out the truth so what they do is they hide that truth and then they put one of their controlled opposition people to quote unquote hijack that finding and own it and that's what happened so these guys in missouri versus biden file a lawsuit and i was very very upset with jim hoff because jim covered our cases from the gateway pundit never told me they were doing any of this that's true yeah i thought that he was at one of the defendants or plaintiffs exactly exactly and jim covered our case extensively.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Now, when I read the case, because I read cases, I said, this case is going to fail. It's set up to fail. Because they couldn't show directly at the government, you know, at their bidding, social media companies did it. Now, why is this important? Because social media companies have their First Amendment right. Government also has First Amendment right. Okay? From the Constitution.
Starting point is 00:04:29 The issue is, did Twitter do what the government wanted? Because Twitter would not have done it if the government didn't call them. You see? It's a very important thing. I have First Amendment rights. Government has First Amendment rights, and so does a company like Twitter. So it's a very important thing to show that if there is government forcing Twitter to do this, it's called state action by a very important ruling that you have to argue called Blum versus Uretsky,
Starting point is 00:05:00 which I argued successfully in federal court in Massachusetts. That's why I got my injunction. I won that. It's the centerpiece of the case. Now, after I won it and went on to the major trial, the judge was trying to bribe me to drop all the claims against the government. And he appointed me a lawyer who was colluding also with the judge and the government from all perspective.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Okay. And I wouldn't accede. And then they tried to come after me. And that's why I actually filed a new case in December, 2023, against the US government, not just Massachusetts. So that case is live, okay? But everyone needs to understand
Starting point is 00:05:36 that I am the one who has the actual evidence, David, that can stand courtroom testimony, which is I have the case of the century, which shows we have the courtroom testimony from the government social media director of the government of massachusetts telling a federal judge yes i contacted twitter we didn't like his tweets and when they took it down we were relieved quote unquote it doesn't get any better than that these clowns who filed missouri versus biden was flawed and it's funny they found two indian guys who knew about our case and you would think if they
Starting point is 00:06:12 wanted to strengthen it they would have referred to our case yeah so why didn't they refer to it so they set up a case where they filed it in you know republican centric federal court so they'd win those in the fifth circuit but when it went up to the supreme court amy coney barrett destroyed it because she said you don't have exact evidence of the government actually coercing social media because they because in the cases that they had the social media companies already had these people on their red flag list right but my case they didn't I was never thrown off social media you say yeah so my case was of course so why didn't they include my case when it was so well known all over the world and we've
Starting point is 00:06:59 seen this type of thing from the Supreme Court in the past I I've talked many times about as they were putting in the National Firearms Act and other things like that and back in the past. I've talked many times about, as they were putting in the National Firearms Act and other things like that, and back in the 1930s, they had a guy to establish that act. They had a guy who was a convicted criminal, had previous convictions, Miller, and he had a sawed-off shotgun,
Starting point is 00:07:21 and so they bring this action against him. And that was the case that they wanted to bring in. They argued that he couldn't have a sawed-off shotgun because so they bring this action against him and that was the case that they wanted to bring in they argued that he couldn't have a sawed-off shotgun because it was not a military weapon and he even died before the case was heard at the supreme court they went ahead with it anyway even though the guy was dead it wasn't a moot case you know when you look at something like this and and barrett says these people don't have standing it's like who had standing to decide a case of a guy that's already died, but they,
Starting point is 00:07:46 when they want to establish a precedent, they'll do anything, no matter how ridiculous it is, you know, and then what I'm saying here, David is why didn't these lawyers, why didn't these people who knew about my case reach out? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Why did they even reference it? They intentionally concealed our case in Massachusetts, knowing it was the landmark case here in massachusetts why would you conceal it david that's the question and the only conclusion you come in either they're really really dumb and incompetent or was done intentionally that's the that's the only two conclusions either you're dumb and you're an incompetent lawyer on the most important case that knowing the that's the only two conclusions either you're dumb and you're an incompetent lawyer on the most important case that knowing the history that I had revealed that by the way it was Trump who signed into law size which created that backdoor infrastructure supported by both wings
Starting point is 00:08:35 of Congress you have this landmark case where we actually have the government telling a federal judge yeah I did it I told twitter to do this and i was relieved courtroom testimony why would you not include that when you knew this would go to the supreme court you did it intentionally either you didn't want to give me credit because you're jealous but it's quite interesting they go find two brown skin indian guys to be the centerpiece of that right it's almost like a replacement strategy but you don't bring out the most important findings so amy coney barrett if you read her analysis and i read it very carefully she says in order to show this you need the evidentiary proof that twitter or facebook would not have done this without government intervention you say that's
Starting point is 00:09:24 like the smoking say that's like the smoking gun that's what we have so why would you not include the most important piece of evidence yeah you see what I'm saying oh yeah so they didn't include this because if you look at this was a 6-3 ruling by the Supreme Court basically giving it to the government so the government now and everyone should listen can this is sets up a precedent ruling at the highest court in the land so we so everyone else who gets thrown off social media by government intervention has to even go much harder okay much much harder because what these fools did i'm talking about the the attorneys in murthy
Starting point is 00:10:04 versus biden on the plaintiff's side you can't just blame the supreme court this was a setup right so the supreme court handed it to the left or whatever you want to call it the swarm as i call it okay by giving them saying that government can legally censor speech and they're retroactively protected now which is what i predicted would happen this is very much similar to the telecommunications they did it through congress where congress gave a retroactive immunity to the when the government was using telecommunications companies to in 2000 under the bush administration to spy on u.s citizens they retroactively congress left and right got
Starting point is 00:10:45 together and they passed a rule to um uh indemnify these companies so that's what just happened here the left and right if you look at this there's three the far right guys on the supreme court but the three you know roberts coney barrett and others colluded with with the left to screw over basically they destroyed the first amendment online yeah destroyed yeah now the next day what do they do they pass a they said okay but we're getting rid of the chevron doctrine now remember the supreme court ruling that they just did basically says any agency in the government any government can silence the speech of you american citizens silently launder censorship through social media companies it's okay because they've set the bar so high because of this ridiculous lawsuit that they did not include my findings purposely intentionally that's what they did they sabotaged the american
Starting point is 00:11:45 people i say was deliberate the next day they then um the supreme court again in a 6-3 the same set of people right um rule uh to eliminate the chevron doctrine in 1984 in Chevron versus I think NRDC the question has been this Congress writes laws right the executive branch that's a legislative branch executive branch is supposed to enforce the laws and the judicial branch in the United States is supposed to interpret the laws okay so in that, sometimes Congress probably likely on purpose will write laws that are vague. Right. Oh yeah. Let's say that's been a standard. That's been a standard thing. Pelosi said, we'll have to pass it to find out what's in it. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Let's say they pass laws that are vague. What they, so this in the Chevron versus NR nrdc historic precedent-setting case in 1984 the supreme court ruled in those instances an agency which has subject matter expertise in that area we will defer to that it's called agency deference it's a principle so if the courts um have to if there's a law that comes to to be interpreted in front of the Supreme Court the courts or any court have to defer to the agency within the government and get their opinion first and if their opinion rules so it's really a fourth branch of government okay so that set up the Chevron Doctrine for the last 30 40 years right 1984 today now in the fishermen's
Starting point is 00:13:28 case i think it was relentless i forget the there's two cases that came up the supreme court ruled 6-3 to strike down the chevron doctrine which meant that congress must put together clear laws so you don't have to go through this interpretation process but here's the deal it's a shell game because you're moving away the corruption from the agencies guess what to the lobbyists because we know the lobbyists are the ones who are influencing congress to write the laws so they ever so so what you noticed was the right-wing libertarians or even the republicans are like oh my god this is great chevron doctrine has been smashed but if you go look at any of those people's twitter feeds they were silent on what the government did 24 hours before or sorry the supreme court did the the quote-unquote the republican right-wing supreme court did to destroy free speech in the United States. So look at this. So in 24 hours, the
Starting point is 00:14:26 Supreme Court passes, takes down the Chevron Doctrine, which had flaws with it, to throw a bone to the Republican right. So they say, oh my God, great, we don't have the deep state now. And you can read those tweets and those Facebook posts. But those same grifters posting that, David, not one of them said anything against the same right wing Republican court, which had just allowed every agency, government agency, agency, the right to silence speech. Yeah. Destroyed the First Amendment. So on the one hand, they took down the First Amendment, the Supreme Court, and they threw a bone of oh we've taken away the chevron doctrine but we know that that corruption that ruled the agencies through all of the chevron doctrine is just going to get shifted and consolidated over to the lobbyists in congress now i can see this as
Starting point is 00:15:19 you know as bright as day because i take a systems approach david the non-systems people were out there oh my god we got this over here what's like you know showing the monkey the mirror over here so you know you don't show the banana over here right so yeah the big elephant in the room is the supreme court destroyed the first amendment the right-wing republican supreme court destroyed the first amendment and that same republican right-wing Supreme Court threw a bone to the Republican right-wing, saying, oh my God, this is great, you guys can gloat over the Chevron Doctrine being taken away. That's what happened, David.
Starting point is 00:15:54 I agree. Well, I think that, you know, I agree that, you know, that is there as an appeasement to people. I think a lot of people looking at this,'ve talked about um the power of the bureaucracy and how it has grown over the years i talk about uh regulation without representation as much as taxation without representation i got a couple of comments here let me pass these on to you and get your comment on ap rumble seat rights maybe we need people like dr shiva to establish legal think tanks state to state well that's kind of what you're doing with your educational classes isn't it yeah so who is that a rumble was uh the user's name is ap rumble seat
Starting point is 00:16:33 i'm not sure is that on rumble or is it rumble yeah so ap rumble what we've done is we've created very powerful movement. And the bottom line, you know, theme of our movement is save yourself. If you can see that, David, right? Save yourself on these. And then we tell people, David, on the back of these cards, look what's going on. The swarm is actually killing you. Lifespan is going down.
Starting point is 00:17:03 Cost of living is going up. So our position, David, is that the individual in the united states if you want to be a real citizen must take responsibility for your life yes politicians are not going to do it there's no savior coming to do that the only person going to do that is you you must save yourself in order to save yourself you got to understand the the way systems work now the value that i'm bringing to in my run for president or and beyond that is to explain to people look i've i've discovered those tools i have the tools if you want to learn it we're here but if you want to outsource your future to one of these clowns right and all of these clowns by the way um you know are agents of Israel every single one of them they're all Zionists and they've
Starting point is 00:17:53 hijacked by the way Christianity and they've duplicitly taken advantage of the American Christians to think that Zionism equalsity which it isn't but what our movement educates people on the fundamental view that the future is up to you and you have to learn how to fight now i have created those tools so that's what you're referring to david so um in every state now for that matter all over the world now in we have we're in about 100 plus countries in the united states in every state and our leaders who are running our movement the first thing they're teaching people is if you want to vote for dr shiva you also have to be willing to stand up for yourself this is not about him saving you dr shiva will offer you know you the analysis of tools i'll get on the ground and fight every
Starting point is 00:18:42 day david i've been doing that all my life since i was 17 years old or 12 years old you know as an activist but the american people need to rise up bottoms up and fight and so if you looked at that debate that took place um you had one guy who's a complete liar and another guy whose brain is mush yeah right? So one unethical individual finding a very unhealthy individual. And I was hoping that maybe the takeaway from that, you know, before it happened, there was one piece on reason. They said, well, maybe the best outcome of this would be if it was really, really bad. And it was really, really bad. And I was hoping, and I said it on Friday, I said it again today. I'm hoping that people will see that there, as you point out, there is no savior coming uh that's what i try to focus on all the
Starting point is 00:19:29 time work bottom up that's how we've got to do this not top down the top down is totally corrupt and so i think that's a very important message that we both agree on that we've got to work from the from the bottom up and i do want to talk more about that i've got a couple of other comments here let me throw these at you before we get into the debate. Texas Coast South, it'll never change as long as their federal fiat money system to corrupt all things like it has. What do you say about that? What about that? The dollar status is reserve and the petrodollar and all the rest of that stuff.
Starting point is 00:20:01 Is that about to change? What do you think? Well, I think we don't want to put the symptom separate from the cause okay what has happened david for the last 50 years and by the way in late 80s there was an academic meeting of the leading scholars in the world they got together on the east coast and a decision was made and and we can do a whole video on this at this meeting that in New York that we must demoralize the American public so they never build a bottoms-up workers movement okay and so starting from that day to today the effort of the elites has been to demoralize people to never actually get their hands dirty go out on the streets and hand out flyers mobilize the movement like we're doing for truth from health or our campaign they don't want working
Starting point is 00:20:49 people out independently organizing david they don't want them doing that so the the viewers comments there have two aspects yes he's addressing a one of the many facets of corruption and ways that the swarm enslaves us through a fiat money system there are many ways they also enslave us by controlling the water supply and the food so people can't even think about the fiat money supply okay they don't have they're losing their intelligence even to think about that you say there's many many ways that they shackle us but regardless of that the number one way that the establishment shackles us is to demoralize people to just pontificate all day, to talk about things, but never to get up and build movements. So if you think about a guy like Noam Chomsky,
Starting point is 00:21:35 he writes a book called Manufacturing Consent, which is a detailed analysis of how the swarm controls us. But Chomsky demoralizes anyone from ever building a bottoms-up movement so you'll see all these grifters on the internet talking talking talking doing deep analysis but they're not out there doing the hard practical work of how you build a movement teaching people the tools and putting the onus on them we're the only force right now on the planet doing that in a systematic way so i would encourage the viewer there come to our open house we'll teach you how to fight what you're describing is a symptom it's an obvious symptom there are many things like that but the root of it is that for the last 70 years the american people have been demoralized to outsource
Starting point is 00:22:22 their future to everything yeah to watch i, you know, WWE wrestling all day. Right. I agree to vote for one of these politicians. And when someone like me comes along, bottoms up, it's so new. They're not even thinking, wait a minute, this guy's actually out there. We're actually collecting our signatures to get on the ballot. By the way, we're on the ballot in Utah. The first time a naturalized citizen has been on is on the ballot in the united states for president and people said we couldn't
Starting point is 00:22:48 do it okay so and this goes to the heart of the founders of the united states which believed in what what the and a lot of people a lot of 99 of the lawyers don't know about this principle called non-justiciable issues the founders of the united states knew the framers that there would be issues that come up that even their articles in their tenement you know the bill of rights would couldn't conceive of so there they had a room for non-justiciable issues movements that would come bottoms up that would create new laws and this is why bottoms up movements are central to in the minds of the framers of the Constitution. They're in the subtext.
Starting point is 00:23:27 So you had stupid people like Arnold Schwarzenegger. Oh, you can't run for president. You're a naturalized citizen. Well, yeah, just pontificating you can. But if you build a bottoms-up movement and you say, wait a minute, I've got hundreds of thousands of people who want me on the ballot, that becomes a reality. Like anything, women didn't have the right to vote.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Afghan women had the right to vote before American women. Well, there was a bottoms up movement that was built, right? If you went to the late 1700s and you went to the federal Supreme Court and you said, hey, I'm a black person, I should be allowed into that white restaurant, they'd throw out the case. This is why we need movements. Movements came. We created the 14th Amendment, the 19th Amendment, and that's what we're doing, David.
Starting point is 00:24:11 The framers knew this concept of non-justiciable issues. Well, I agree with you on the bottom-up solution. I absolutely do. I do believe, though, that there is a process for changing the Constitution that would be something other than a large a large movement but and let me there's a couple of people have left a comment here about uh about rights and i'd like to get your clarification about this i'll read their comments here um texas coast south says only people have rights when you work for government you have personal rights yes but not rights to trample on others.
Starting point is 00:24:45 And then scroll down. Let me get the other one that was there. Another one, Rational Lampooner says we tell government what it's allowed to do. It has no rights of its own. Corporations are not people. I've said in the past, and this is my position on it, corporations are creatures of the state. They exist by government-granted privileges. States, when we talk about them,
Starting point is 00:25:06 when we look at the 10th Amendment, it talks about the powers of the states and of the peoples. If it's not delegated, if the powers are not delegated to the federal government. So states have powers. Corporations are creatures of the state. They have privileges.
Starting point is 00:25:22 People have rights because we're created in the image of God, as the Declaration of independence acknowledges um so how do you see that fitting in well david it gets back to the earlier point um you said as an aside the there are fundamental rights that exist independent of all government you know divine rights of people and i think the founders had this in their notion right inalienable rights so that's a central piece there now in the manifestation of the united states and laws etc right how these are translated there's three ways these we are get our rights and this is something everyone no rights are given to us because they're just inalienable we as human beings have to fight for these rights yes they
Starting point is 00:26:13 may be inalienable just like everyone is a beautiful soul but ultimately how you express yourself on this you may be a beautiful soul people say oh he's such a beautiful soul yeah but he's a criminal he goes and kills people right so in the same way when organizations get together yes we have these inalienable rights but do we as a human organization exhibit those rights those inalienable rights well that's where you get into this contradiction this way these this is why we call the fight the struggle we have to fight for them we have to fight against these people inhibiting those and this is central to understand so if you look at how quote unquote laws come into being three ways or amendments right um we have a two-thirds you know uh majority of congress right or you have a constitutional convention called or
Starting point is 00:27:07 the fact that rulings take place at the supreme court level precedential rulings and they are used like in the chevron case for 40 years okay because by the constitution those don't really exist right so yeah and i have i have always had a problem with marbury versus madison because the uh it wasn't in the constitution but the supreme court gave themselves that power jefferson said well that's it it's over when he saw that essentially so it is uh it's kind of been a uh you know very clever the way they asserted these these powers that are there but you have this you have this fact that this there's these multiple interconnected things going on which at a certain point in time what we call the law right and but key among all these things i think people
Starting point is 00:27:58 keep forgetting and the establishment wants us to forget this they're forgetting this other piece which is the people the political process of people rising up bottoms up because the original article says only she only he can be president for example well how did that happen if it wasn't for women rising up right they went to the democrats asked for the right to uh vote right? They laughed at them. Then the 19th Amendment was created, which applied the Equal Protection Clause to women from the 14th Amendment. But none of that would have occurred
Starting point is 00:28:34 if there was not a bottoms-up movement. And this is what we need to understand. And I understand, and I agree with that. I think the movements are important, but I think it's also important for them to, we have to have some kind of an established thing, just like you're talking about the 19th Amendment. Or we had the 18th Amendment where they prohibited alcohol, then 21 where they brought it back. So those types of things are driven from the ground up.
Starting point is 00:28:56 But I think it also they need to, you know, dot the I and cross the T legally. But David, that always comes later. Politicians never do what's i mean you look at in in trump versus anderson on march 4th 2024 this is a very important ruling the colorado courts denied trump access to the ballot in colorado and they said that he violated the section 3 of the insurrection act of the 14th amendment so by constitutional provisions he had violated that they ruled on that and they threw him off the ballot in two court rulings then the supreme court stepped in swooped in and they said whoa whoa whoa you can't do this why because they
Starting point is 00:29:38 said we're going to have a patchwork that's what um was put forward a patchwork of states, each with their own laws on how you run for president. Very, very important ruling. And they said, even if you have a constitutional provision that's being violated at the federal level by a federal candidate, the states have no right to deny ballot access. This is, that was a 9-0 ruling. Yeah. Because they didn't want the United States as an organism to fall apart, which is what was post-Civil War. Again, these are some very, very fundamental rulings are taking place. And I think everyone needs to really understand what's going on. So that ruling is important to my running for president.
Starting point is 00:30:23 Because when I'm trying to get on the ballot some people are confused about what took place between naturalized and quote-unquote natural born which has never defined the 14th Amendment the 19th Amendment you know uh Schneider versus Rusk bowling versus sharp that there have been other rulings including Trump versus Anderson so if it wasn't for Trump versus Anderson which is a Supreme Court, Trump would be thrown off the ballot in Colorado. So you do have, long before constitutional amendments get passed,
Starting point is 00:30:51 you have these Supreme Court rulings, which are very, very powerful. They sustain a body of law. So yes, maybe one day Congress will do something. But what that ruling said was only Congress has a right to decide who becomes president. It's quite amazing, this ruling. So when I'm getting on the ballot, it's the same thing. No state has a right to deny me ballot access by pointing to a constitutional
Starting point is 00:31:18 provision. If I win the presidency, only Congress has a right to say, you know what, we now have to interpret natural born versus naturalized citizen and then they had to have to deny me access to the presidency you say but this is quite powerful it basically goes down to the central part of non-justiciable issues bottoms up movements so let me uh i've got a person here uh mad mem thank you and uh says good morning david and dr shiva you're both doing God's work. Go to ShivaForPresent.com. I don't think we mentioned that earlier.
Starting point is 00:31:49 That's your website. Is there a different website for the training classes that you got? Yeah, so the operating system, what I've created is TruthFreedomHealth.com, David. TruthFreedomHehealth.com, David. Truthfreedomhealth.com. Everyone, if you want to save yourself and get off the plantation, I can't do it for people. Go to truthfreedomhealth.com, become a warrior scholar. That training teaches people how to think from a systems approach. It is the same training I used to teach at MIT. The elites learned this training. This is how the few are able to control the many and if you want to
Starting point is 00:32:25 know more about how the few control the many um the website that I recommend people go to is shatter the swarm.com shatter the swarm.com s-h-a-t-t-e-r now our campaign is fueled by this people who've gone through this training and everyone should get one of these bumper stickers and people can go to shiva4president.com s-h-i-v-a numeral four president.com and everyone should go there get one of these bumper stickers because this gives you the ability to use your own car as a very powerful vehicle to reach a hundred thousand people a day shiva numeral for president.com but um and every thursdays david at 11 a.m and 8 p.m we have a open house and people can go to va shiva.com slash orientation or come to our town hall shiva for president.com slash town hall but those are some of the mechanics of people get involved okay and so those uh there's links to those other websites at Shiva, the number four, president.com.
Starting point is 00:33:30 President.com. Okay, good. Yep. I've got another question here. This is from DG8. It says, Dr. Shiva, what's your thoughts on AIPAC bragging on their own website of the 400-plus politicians they own? America first? Well, it's not america first that's so you know and by the way the biggest
Starting point is 00:33:47 person um who is a beneficiary of this who's going to be even a bigger beneficiary is trump yeah trump is the biggest zionist and you can see what i said i don't want to use those words here on the show um he you know he serves israel biden serves israel booby kennedy serves israel all of them do to me i'm the only anti-zionist candidate and i've been talking about this for 40 years anti-zionism is not anti-semitism it was trump in 2016 who passed an executive order which said that we must equate anti-zionism with anti-semitism now after october 7th everyone knows that was an engineered attack on quote-unquote israel by hamas which is funded by israel i mean it's obvious it's right in front of your face right after that attack took place
Starting point is 00:34:39 i started re-educating people on the difference between zionism and judaism one of those videos in spite of all the shadow banning, got, I think, like 50 to 70 million views, David, globally. Okay? It was where I said, I'm the only presidential candidate who doesn't bleep, you know, Zionist bleep. Okay? And people can go find that.
Starting point is 00:34:59 But that video went viral. And the difference here is that on, so then on December 7th, Mike Johnson, a quote-unquote Christian, you know, Zionist, passed a bill in Congress equating anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism. And then about four weeks ago, the entire Congress passed a bill, 310, the House, to 70, saying that going into the future, they will be using the definition of
Starting point is 00:35:28 anti-semitism pursuant to the israel holocaust remembrance alliance which is a complete zionist nut job organization yeah they outsourced it didn't even define it themselves yeah well if you go read it the set the 7 of 11 examples they give of what is anti-Semitism is if you say anything against the state of Israel, including if you say Israel is worse than their state. That's anti-Semitism, which is really anti-Zionism, which is a political ideology. So Trump is one of the biggest Zionist blah, bleepers. You can fill that blank in. Biden is so and booby kennedy booby kennedy said the palestinian people are the most pampered people on the planet and then he compared the people in gaza to nazis that we must go in there and wipe them out and look at how great
Starting point is 00:36:20 germany became after we wiped out the nazis so if we wipe these people out so why is this because all of these people are part of the swarm all of them they serve israel they do not serve the american working people and if we want to those people even the free palestine movement has been infiltrated by quote-unquote liberal zionists who keep talking about you know cease fire now they've been saying that for 40 years ceasefire now basically means israel gets to move two steps forward one step back it doesn't mean end the occupation very different slogan david we must end the occupation of america and this viewer is rightfully saying that that apac is gloating that they control
Starting point is 00:37:02 congress and congress is a representative body of the American people, which means between us and Congress now is APAC, which means Zionism. Yeah. And central to the founders was that Congress ultimately is a representative body of we the people. So the house, 90%, 95% of those people are controlled by AIPAC. Cynthia McKinney, who was a congresswoman who just endorsed me, she was thrown out years ago, years ago for bringing this out, for exposing the involvement of Zionism in Congress. Well, I think it's pretty clear.
Starting point is 00:37:41 It was also DeSantis jumped into that, you know, to get money. And so equating criticism of a political state, Israel, with anti-Semitism and then making it a criminal offense. The type of stuff that we're starting to see in this law that everybody's being concerned about in Germany, but also in Ireland. You know, they're doing that as well. We're going to make hate speech an imprisonable offense and lock people up in prison. Well, they started doing that. The Republican Party did that in Florida with that. And so I think that's two very important things. I don't support any kind of hate speech regulation.
Starting point is 00:38:18 I think you can't have freedom of speech if there's going to be such a thing as free speech, I think. But, David, it just happened. When was it? a couple of months ago, when they passed that bill in Congress. It was, again, if you notice, all of this is being done by the Republican right. That's right. That's right. The Republican right, everyone listening, you Magatards are the ones who are supporting this. Yep. That's right.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Wearing Make America Great again and literally supporting israel so we have now a law that's going to go to congress which said which is going to give the department of education infinite rights to take away money from schools that let's say support let's say mit tomorrow wanted to invite me to speak on anti-zionism they would say you can't invite that speaker he's anti-semitic equating anti-zionism with anti-semitism will remove your federal funds or let's say a high school wanted to invite me to come speak david right and this is being done by the so-called republican right not by the woke democrats but the republican right is supporting massive fascism, pro-Israel, anti-American interests.
Starting point is 00:39:27 And this is, in the spirit of it, this is Donald Trump. That's why when I looked at that debate, David, I don't know if you want to go there. Yeah, we're getting close to the end of the show, but we've got a few minutes and we can go over a little bit. Give us your take on the show. Now, you, just like some other people, many people live streamed the debate, even though it was from CNN. They did it on Twitter. Musk said, go ahead and sue me.
Starting point is 00:39:51 This is important. So you had commentators who were doing it and commenting live. You did it as a candidate and responding to the questions. Tell us a little bit about that. And, of course, people can see that on Twitter as well. I bet you if we had streamed CNN, we would have been sued but not booby kennedy okay yeah after i decided to do it then booby steals everything we do okay booby kennedy is an agent of the swarm that's who he is he's he's fake independent he's a zionist puppet okay completely they're all so but anyway if you looked at that debate separate from
Starting point is 00:40:23 the fact so what i saw interesting was we know biden isn't on on a set of cocktails right that keep his brain from going mush yeah we know here trump is just a liar he'll say anything he needs to say to get as much money as he can and we've had this discussion with other people like alex jones does the same thing right even though he knows things are wrong he'll do it to raise money okay so trump is a master grifter so here's a lying master grifter who has sex with prostitutes you know while his wife is pregnant and over here you have a guy biden whose brain has essentially become mush now what i found fascinating is again if you go to central principles anything you see
Starting point is 00:41:03 on mainstream media is something they want you to see yeah that's right okay so they wanted people to see a decrepit bright biden now what how do they do that did they change his medical cocktail mix before that debate because he looked horrible and the next day they gave him the right cocktails where he looks really strong so i would i mean it's amazing right yeah so the puppy uppers yeah yeah right so i would argue that someone remember the swarm has its own internal conflicts someone has decided they maybe don't want biden they want somebody else because they're going to serve zionism even better okay so i found it quite profound that they made we knew that how bad they made
Starting point is 00:41:47 biden look yes okay and the next day is going so i just want everyone to alert people that everything that you see on media is theater it is brought to you by the swarm to serve the swarm and you know looking at the the fact that they the timing that they did it we've always had the debates after the convention neither of these guys has been nominated as the official person, right? But they're debating each other. And, and it's all, usually the conventions are in late August. You don't have the first debate until the end of September. And then you have September, mid October, latter part of October.
Starting point is 00:42:18 I mentioned this many times to the audience this time, they just let leapfrogged all that stuff. And I think it was for the purpose of sabotaging him and getting somebody else in there. Do you have any predictions as to who you think it'll be? Well, I think, I mean, I've said this from day one. I've always said that they wanted Gavin Newsom. You know, I think that's where they want, you know, someone in there. Maybe they'll throw a brown face like Kamala Harris in there who's a Brahmin, who's also a Zionist.
Starting point is 00:42:42 But I think that's their game but it was obvious to everyone watching they want biden out whoever the within the swarm right they have their own internal conflicts and you can see all of silicon valley supporting trump in fact cnn is supporting trump right everybody's like how did this happen we never knew that he had any cognitive issues yeah exactly the next day everyone should go watch his rally next day biden's all fired up because he got the right cocktails yeah so whoever engineered this they make sure he got the wrong cocktails before the debate and the right and to your point david the timing of these debates why would you do this debate
Starting point is 00:43:21 when general election debates are not even supposed to take place after the convention? So everything people see, elections are selections. Yeah. And it's all theater. Yeah. Well, we're right at the end of the program, but let me get you. You talk a lot about the swarm. That's your term.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Define that a little bit for people. How do you see the swarm? Is that the globalists? Is it the bureaucracy, the deep state? How do you see the swarm? Yeah. So, David, I have a much more precise and tangible and accessible definition. So it takes away a lot of the quote-unquote, you know, what the left or other people call conspiracy, right?
Starting point is 00:43:54 And if people go to shattertheswarm.com, shattertheswarm.com, you will understand it. So I really encourage everyone, if you want to start your first level of learning how to fight start with knowing who thy enemy is who's a swarm they're not a particular geographical location israel or the pentagon or some location north korea first of all it's not spatially based nor is it not temporally based something over time you know at this location the swarm exists and now it doesn't okay and it's not consolidated in a particular set of people like the quote-unquote the rothschild it's not or the quote-unquote the jews or the quote-unquote wall street it is a highly interconnected telepathic interconnected group of people who may have their own contradictions from time to time because they
Starting point is 00:44:45 it's wwe wrestling right right blah blah blah but overall they move together as a blob if you watch you know those um uh star i think these birds that move over the ocean oh yeah right yeah see that they move like this one time they're moving one one group may move this way but they ultimately move together okay that is what the swarm is it's a much more precise understanding okay of how and you can learn how the few control the eight billion of us and so i've taken complex control systems made it very accessible so everyone should go to shattertheswarm.com step one if you want to save yourself understand who the enemy is step two david is everyone needs to understand this graph here if you can see it lifespan in the united states is going down cost of living is going up these people are literally killing you and everyone should go to shatter the swarm but i am
Starting point is 00:45:41 here to provide people tools on how to fight but you must want to take responsibility for yourself you have to want to save yourself if you don't want to save yourself that's why we're in this condition if you look at this graph this has been going on since 1970 david yeah we keep thinking oh bernie's gonna do it oh trump's gonna do it oh booby may do it now oh biden may do it we got to get off our butts and be real Americans. We have to want to fight for ourselves. That is the only way out of it. Now, my run for president gives people the opportunity to have someone like me lead people to the extent my leading is, hey, here's the water. This is where you go. You want to be a good horse and drink the water. That's what I've created,
Starting point is 00:46:22 that water, that mana, which is truth, freedom, health. But if you don't want to do that, well, please, I will give you a recommendation letter to go vote for Biden or boobie because you're going to be slowly cooked like the frog. So that's what our movement's about, David.
Starting point is 00:46:35 It's really about personal responsibility. And that's what I like. That's what I like about it. It's, you know, I think we put way too much information and too much hope on the presidency. And your message that we've got to do it ourselves, we've got to do it from the bottom up, that is exactly what needs to happen. And I agree with you about the swarm.
Starting point is 00:46:53 It isn't a particular place. Global governance is distributed. And it's a good analogy that you've got with the flocks of birds that are out there. Thank you so much for joining us again uh people can go to shattertheswarm.com or you can go to shiva number four president dot com thank you very much dr shiva appreciate it thanks david be well best to you and your son and your family The Common Man. They created Common Core to dumb down our children. They created Common Past to track and control us.
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