The David Knight Show - INTERVIEW Skousen: EMP Prep, Russian Civil Defense Drills & US EBS Test

Episode Date: October 4, 2023

Joel Skousen, WorldAffairsBrief.com, looks at geopolitics as the world moves closer to nuclear war or EMPhow to prepare for EMP (Strategic Location and Secure Home at JoelSkousen.com)the real dangers of 5GGOP chaos in the HouseFind out more about the show and where you can watch it at TheDavidKnightShow.comIf you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-showOr you can send a donation throughMail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @[e-mail] App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Money is only what YOU hold: Go to DavidKnight.gold for great deals on physical gold/silverFor 10% off Gerald Celente's prescient Trends Journal, go to TrendsJournal.com and enter the code KNIGHTBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.

All right, welcome back. And joining us now is Joel Skousen. Always great to talk to Joel. I like his, he's got a very original take on things, and he can back them up with information. Of course, you'll find his newsletter, and you can get a sample of that, I think, at worldaffairsbrief.com.

He's got a lot of books to tell you where to select a strategic location to live in the United States, which is getting more and more important. He's been doing this for quite a while. How to Build a Secure House and many other things. You can find those books at joelskousen.com.

Thank you for joining us, Joel. Good to talk to you. David, it's always good to be with you. Thank you. We're living in interesting times, aren't we? As we were discussing briefly and as we're getting you put on here, you said, wow, we look at what is going on in the House. Historical day as we have the Speaker for the first time thrown out, Speaker of the House, first time that's happened. What's your take on all that?

Well, and for a very good reason. You you know the only reason he got to be speaker after 15 votes was that he made some very specific promises to the freedom caucus and especially the hardline conservatives as part of that caucus they aren't totally unified but he broke those promises in the april deal with president b, where he passed that omnibus spending bill, which was way over budget and didn't consult the conservatives. And so basically, Matt Gaetz, as leader of the hardliners in the Freedom Caucus, said, if you don't stop this, if you do it again, we're going to oust you as speaker. And he did it again.

And Matt Gaetz, in his press conference, it wasn't a formal press conference, he just gets besieged by the press as he leaves the House chambers. And after his hour debate with the chamber on the motion to vacate the chair, he outlined very specifically, again, as he did before before the house why he is voting to vacate the chair number one well in general he's talking about violations of the the regular order of the house the regular order of the house is that you have the 12 bills appropriation bills passed through committee and then you have debate and then you have amendments so you allow amendments to those bills and then you pass them individually and he is complaining because they

were running behind schedule mccarthy wasn't in any hurry to get this thing done and gates requested that he cancel the august recess he said we don't have time to for six weeks to take off we've got a deadline at september we've got a lot of hard knocks to go through this mccarthy didn't do it he allowed the recess to go forward he also has instilled a four-day work week a four-day work week when you're talking about a huge backlog of appropriations bill that means they start at 6 p.m. on Monday and they quit on Friday. And that's essentially a four-day work week. And Gates was complaining about that. But here is the specifics. McCarthy promised that he would never be a bill presented to the House over $100 million

without the possibility of amendments. and he violated that on numerous occasions refusing to allow amendments he said he would never use the democrats to provide a majority over the wishes of the gop majority and he did that on the ukraine funding bill he passed that with the majority of democrats voting with the minority of republicans to pass the ukraine funding bill which didn't make it obviously into the the main bill um and uh mccarthy created also a secret side deal with biden over a separate ukraine spending uh bill that would be done and basically says you know both these border tightening regulations and the ukraine spending need to be a separate bill you don't want to put these in an omnibus bill they're very controversial

and they need to have an up or down vote from everybody on those two specific issues and this goes to the problem of the omnibus bill where you lump everything together and and then you make everybody vote yes or no on the entire bill and so if you want to you know anything at all in your agenda you've got to vote for the whole package so omnibus bills are very bad uh but in any case there were seven or eight total republicans that voted uh to oust mccarthy and they got their way. I was surprised that McCarthy said, I'm not going to run for Speaker again. Before he left the Speakership,

he appointed Pat McHenry of South Carolina to be the Speaker pro tem. And, of course, he's a puppet to McCarthy, and he immediately said, well, we're not even going to vote for the next Speaker until October 11th, which is a full week away. I played a clip of McHenry he was really he tried to break the gavel when he slammed I don't know if you saw the picture of him but he says well out of germs and he goes with all his might trying to hit that thing he was he was pretty angry about that

I'm sorry go ahead. Well, Gates was very unhappy about that. He said, you know, we don't have time. We've got to put together another bill and resolve these things by November 17th when this continuing resolution ends. And so he said, you know, we've got to go to work right now. We need to have the election this week. Gates is suggesting Steve Scalise, who is the GOP majority leader in the House right now, as the replacement for McCarthy. I think Jim Jordan, although he was opposed to this vacating the speakership, and he's kind of happy with McCarthy because McCarthy, true to his word, he did give conservatives major positions on the committees. But that's about all that McCarthy did, is give conservatives major positions on the committees. But that's about all that

McCarthy did, is give conservatives major positions. So Jordan was head of the Judiciary Committee, very powerful committee right now, relative to the impeachment of Joe Biden, or the impeachment investigation. But he still, I believe, would be a good speaker as well as Steve Scalise. Well, it's going to be interesting to see what happens. And again, Wall Street's take on this is that it increases the chance that there's going to be a shutdown in November. But maybe it won't be quite as long, more than two or three weeks. But they think it will happen now because of the delays that will be involved with this.

But I talked about this earlier,el and uh i was looking at i had a little bit different take on it uh because of what thomas massey said i played the clip for people what thomas massey said there he was part of that team that negotiated a regular order with mccarthy as a condition of his speakership and he he said, look, I voted to, I'm the only person here who voted to remove Boehner, who voted to remove Ryan. He says, I'm not voting to remove him because we did get back regular order to a greater degree. He said, yeah, a lot of things happened that we don't like here. But you'd had the situation with Pelosi and Boehner and others who had put in these omnibus bills and ran everything from a centralized

speakership through very tightly controlled committees. And people were not allowed to make amendments from the floor, basically shutting down the rules of order, Robert's rules of order, whatever, you know, the regular order that would allow people to participate in it. The whole thing was tightly and centrally controlled. And that was the key sticking point, I think, and all that. And he felt like,

um, uh, things had improved in that direction and they keep going in that direction. But, uh, you're right. It now has turned this whole thing into a turmoil. Um,

and, um, you know, Chip Roy had, uh, had pushed very hard for that. Thomas Massey had pushed very hard for that. And,

and I, you know, they, they both voted to keep him in at this point in time. But, of course, we have Newt Gingrich now, very upset about this. And I played a clip for people just to remind them where Newt Gingrich has been. It was a political ad that was done by Ron Paul back in 2011 when both of them were running for the GOP nomination, really kind of defining what

a flip-flopping snake Newt Gingrich has been. And his point is, he said, well, you know, we've got these rules, and so Matt Gaetz needs to be kicked out. Forget about what the people thought who elected him. He has violated the Republican Party rules, the rules of the Republican Conference, and we need to kick him out of Congress for doing that. What do you think about that? And what do you think about what Thomas Massey had to say?

Well, you know, I have a good deal of respect for Jim Jordan and Thomas Massey and Chip Roy, too. They are voting, in fact, for the fact that they did get good committee assignments on this and that McCarthy did come their way. But my response to Massey would be, but remember he only came your way in terms of allowing amendments or allowing the regular order on easy things, on all the things that were the tough issues. He went over to the Democrats.

So he betrayed you on all the crucial issues and only gave you the easy stuff, which you didn't really need, you know, and well, you need it, of course, but they weren't the crucial things that are sticking points like border regulations and the Ukraine vote, et cetera. And, but, you know, Newt Gingrich is really a snake in the grass. He's a globalist, I believe, you know, he, he, he got elected with his, what was it, contract for America, and I think it was a contract on America, basically.

And as soon as he was elected, the first thing he did, did he pass anything on the contract with him? Not a thing. He went for world trade acceptance of China, read China into the World Trade Organization, WTO. That was his first issue. It was a total globalist sellout right from the get-go. And, you know, he has played both sides of this issue.

He's really a very slick operator. So he has called for Matt Gaetz to be removed from the Republican conference, which is the conference which decides a lot of these issues, etc. Now, I'm not a big fan of Matt Gaetz in terms of his moral conduct. He is a party guy, and I don't think he's been necessarily moral in his conduct, but he's really a good debater. He is a person who really laid down the issues to the press as clearly as anybody on the violations of McCarthy. And, you know, to remove him would be, I think, a big mistake. We need somebody who's going to get right out there.

I think it'd be a big mistake to violate. It's as I well, you know, we don't like him in the the party so i don't really care what the voters think i mean that would be the biggest mistake of it and just in terms of a precedent that they'd be setting to remove him for that yeah well you know they are having an ethics committee and this was kind of mccarthy's threat over his head it's interesting that mccarthy said after he was um gage said i'm going to put in a resolution to vacate the chair. He said, well, go ahead and try it. You know, just McCarthy was defiant. He really didn't think it would pass.

I thought perhaps, you know, maybe even the Democrats would come to the rescue of McCarthy because he'd been so helpful to them. But I think they voted in favor of watching the Republicans be in disarray rather than you know rescue somebody who really was helping them now they're not going to get someone as bad as McCarthy I believe and I think they're gonna have to go to someone who is a little bit more to the right or they're not going to you know get elected these eight people can stop anybody from getting to be speaker unless the democrats want to throw in what's a liberal republicans and and really get a very bad person in there so it'll be interesting to see what happens as you point out the ethics issues that gates has and then of course you know there's

george santos has got huge ethics issues and mccarthy was absolutely supportive of george santos uh so it'll be interesting to see what happens with that. I think one of the things that really surprised me was, as you point out, McCarthy said to Gates, he said, go ahead, bring it on. So I thought, well, okay, he knows what's going on. He's going to win this thing. His inability to read the room, you know?

I mean, how are you that clueless as a speaker that you don't know if you got the votes for something like this? I mean, but maybe he's just, you know, it's just bravado. But that was one of the key things to me going back to Newt Gingrich's contract with America. I remember that thing. Ten point program. You know, Joel, I ran for Congress the next election in 96. And my central theme was, I said, I've got a contract with America. It's called the Bill of Rights.

And here's how it's being, it's 10 point, it's a 10 point solution to what our government is right now. And I said, here's how it's being violated in every one of those things. I've made flyers of that, but that was my campaign to run for the contract with America, the bill of rights. What district did you run in? It was in North Carolina and it was in the Charlotte district.

So I did that back in, I think it was nine. I think it wasn't where I live, but you know, you don't have to live in the district, you just have to live in the state. And I was kind of the sacrificial lamb for the third party to run there, but I was able to get into some debates, but you know, it is interesting to see where this is going to go. And, and I guess a key thing is, you know, is there anybody you look at, um, uh, the people that are there, you got Tom Emmer, you've got a Scalise, you know, maybe Jim Jordan.

I mean, you know, you think it's going to be one of those three? Those seem to be the highest profile. Of course, you know, the majority leader and the whip, and then Jim Jordan is always, you know, out front in front of the cameras. Who do you think might make it through? Well, I think it's either going to be Scalise or Jim Jordan. Whether or not Jim Jordan will run or not, you know, and lose his position on the

Judiciary Committee, I have my doubts. So Steve Cleese is in the prime position. The mere fact, though, that Gates wants him will speak against him to the people who were very angry with him about this. And there are a lot of Republicans that were angry but I don't think I don't think yes it's true that McCarthy would have compromised that I mean would have avoided to shut down but as I pointed out many times in the World Affairs brief we really need to shut down the government in many ways and you know they don't have to actually close the national parks they don't have to close the passport office they don't have to close the passport office. They don't have to do any of the stuff that really inconveniences Americans. Plenty of money coming in constantly to

keep those funded. But they need to shut down, you know, foreign aid. They need to shut down any money going to Ukraine. And, you know, I'm not against, as we've talked about on our program before, because Russia faked their own demise and put Ukraine into the boundaries or put the Donbass and Crimea into Ukraine to give them an excuse to invade at some future time I'm not in favor of of letting Putin get away with that you know we need to supply arms to keep that Ukraine from falling but I'm not in favor because of the corruption in Ukraine of any further actual funds going to ukraine yeah whether to pay the salaries of other people or to pay for their deficits you

know no money for ukraine is just too corrupt this is a leftover from the soviets because when they faked their own demise they left all the communists in the bureaucracy and that's why they continue to exact bribes that's why you had buddhism all the former presidents of ukraine have been corrupt and uh you know secret buddies with the oligarchs in russia it's a very bad situation but there's plenty of ways to cut funding and i realize you can't get you can't cut social security and the welfare thing that they'd scream bloody murder and but there's plenty of things that you can cut that don't hurt most normal people and keep the government in limbo

while you hammer out these things but we've got to stop this going under yeah you look at um you know the plan that republicans came up with when biden says um we got to get 80 billion dollars more for the irs an agency that's now getting $13 billion. And the Republicans said, that's crazy. Only $60. Only a $60 billion. We won't grow it to be, what is it, seven times the size? We'll only make it five times bigger than it currently is.

And that's the kind of stuff that just makes my head spin with Republicans. It's like, what is the deal? Just a little bit less government than the Democrats want to give us. And of course, you talk about the corruption in Ukraine. Even Bill Gates said, most corrupt country on earth. The Pentagon is even saying, we got so much stuff that we sent to them that's leaking out everywhere. This is a big problem. Ukraine is getting, I mean, the UK is getting tapped out in terms of, you know, it's a war machine in terms of sending them stuff. And this is all highlighting something I think that is an even bigger fundamental problem of the West, and that is the erosion of our manufacturing database to the extent of database, our manufacturing base and infrastructure to the extent that we can't sustain some kind of a big war effort.

What do you think about that as somebody who follows us much more closely than I do? Well, we can certainly ramp up like we did in World War II and start to produce these things. Whether or not there's a will to do that, there usually isn't until you get attacked. But, you know, with the speed at which, you know, attacks can come now, with nuclear missiles instead of just ships across the sea coming towards you like happened in Pearl Harbor, which of course was provoked by Roosevelt. This was a false flag operation if there ever was one.

But yeah, we have the manufacturing capacity to do that. I mean, even in strategic minerals, for example, the only reason that China has a lock on the strategic minerals is they've. The only reason that China has a lock on the strategic minerals is they've undercut the prices. We used to produce all the strategic minerals in the United States, out of Nevada and parts of California. We have them all in the United States. They just aren't as economical to produce unless China decides to cut it off and then we could start producing again but uh i i think that uh both the west and you know can can come up to speed and they are ramping up um uh you know in military production in order to provide uh the arms for ukraine the big problem in ukraine is this triple layer defense system that while the

ukrainians were waiting for american tanks to arrive you know four to six months the russians built this three-tiered mind trench system that is very difficult to penetrate now if they had strategic bombing as the west has the capability you could obliterate that line you could blow up the entire minefield so that none of you could drive right through it they don't have strategic bombing all they've got is artillery and high Mars and other types of things so they have to slug it out trying to get through that line and I don't see Ukraine doing that I just don't think you're without strategic bombing that you're going to be able to penetrate that line now neither do I see Russia being able to take anything more than the dome boss of the Crimea so I think this is a war of

attrition that's going to go on as long as the West continues to provide military arms to keep the artillery and the rockets supplied I don't think Russia can win and I don't think Ukraine can win so where this is going in the long term I'm not sure but um I'll tell you conservatives have really been snookered by uh by Putin who has been putting on a propaganda show about being anti-lbgt and pro-christian and all these types of things to convince uh an anti-new world order to convince the west or at least the conservatives in the west that he's going to save us from our own globalists and it isn't true at all uh it's just a prior as trevor loudon has pointed out from new zealand got a very good series of uh things showing that this propaganda move by the continuing Soviets, as I call them,

in Russia has been very effective towards getting conservatives to be pro-Russian rather than... Yeah, it's kind of a Hegelian PR move because, again, the West cannot control their contempt for Christian conservative values. No matter, even though they see Putin doing this, they can't bring it upon themselves to pull back at all from the rainbow flag or any persecution that they're doing of people or the pronouns or any of that kind of stuff. So they're tone deaf or they're defiant about that. And so that leaves him a strategic opening. You know, when you're talking about the minefields and everything, I saw a thing the other day, a thing called spider boots. Maybe you probably know about it, but the audience probably doesn't. And that's their approach to trying to cross these minefields, just how crude that was.

And all it is is just a little elevated platform they put shoes on, and it has like four extended prongs and a steel plate underneath it so that if you step on one of these mines, the explosion is not, and it will be directed somewhat away from you. Still going to really, uh, you know, severely injure the person, but maybe not take their leg off and have them bleed out immediately. And I thought that's the best they've got that here's some spider boots. Go walk across that. It really isn't the best they've got. They have the flailing machines that go in front of an armored vehicle that extend out about 20 or 30 feet and it's a big rotating series of chains that flail on the ground set off the mines and it doesn't hurt the chains when it blows up but they can drive right through a minefield it's just the

ukraine doesn't have very many of these okay all right yeah it seems to be a real uh sticking point as you point out you know that it's a very uh uh complicated things terms of the the amount of mines that they've got and it seems to have really uh stuck them but i guess it's because they just don't have enough of that machinery and they don't have their strategic bombs to take out those fields either uh yeah it truly is amazing to to see how this is progressing and of course it is escalating and that's one of my questions to you. As we see Russia, you've said for the longest time that the Western elite want to invite a nuclear strike.

That is part of their long-term plan. We see Russia doing civil defense drills. And of course, civil defense has never been really a concern of the American government. We're going to have an emergency broadcasting system thing happening this afternoon. But, you know, so what is it that you would tell people? Because that's something that you cover in your books, strategic location. And that's a factor. You know, now there's other aspects to strategic location, which is the breakdown of society

and, you know, the Soros district attorneys letting people back out on the streets, criminals back out on the streets. We're seeing that kind of violence escalate. But also proximity to nuclear targets as part of strategic relocation. And then your secure home and other aspects of this. People can find those books at joelskousen.com. Tell us a little bit about, give us a little bit of advice as the best we're going to get is maybe an emergency broadcasting system

call on our phone. Well, there's a lot of hype now about the 5G test that's going to come out at 2 p.m. And there's been an awful lot of hype around the Internet about 5G. And one of the most, I think, spectacular falsehoods is being promulgated is that 5G can somehow trigger little nanomachines that have been injected with the vaccine and create havoc in your body. Well, that's really a lot of hype in my opinion. First of all, 5G cannot trigger any biological device. It can destroy things.

If you get too close to a 5G radiating source for too long of a period, it can destroy biological processes, but it can't trigger any biological processes. I have a son who works in the cell phone industry as an electrical engineer, and he does testing on all the 5G, 4G, and 3G, you know, cell phone technology and their towers for radiation frequency, et cetera. And, you know, he admits, yes, any EMF can be dangerous if you have a very strong radi rating source up against your brain you know for a long period of time but they're very care interesting enough he says that 5g by the way because it is a higher frequency has much less power it

takes much less power to transmit than 4g and much less power than 3g which is at a lower frequency still and so actually the radiation effect is lesser in terms of damage for because of the lower power of the transmitter now that said if you've got an apartment and across the street is a building with a 5g antenna radiating right into your apartment that's too close yeah yeah and what we've seen in new york is exactly that same type of thing they started putting it up in neighborhoods and people you know wake up in the morning and there's this thing right next to their window right next to the window of their kid in a in the in the cradle and they look at it and it says uh this should be located at least 10 feet away from somebody or whatever they call the uh they call the people and said hey this is what

this tag says on here can you come out and do something about this they came out they removed the tag i'm serious that's a true story you know it's reported by the new york post i think it was but um you know that's the total disregard that they have for people and of course the other aspect of it is that you know different frequencies of course affect us differently and we don't really have a lot of data about 5g you know the only EMF biological research that was really done to a large extent was Alan Fry.

He was doing it for the Navy. And, you know, the Fry effect that they found in people hearing clicking noises and things like that at different frequencies. But different frequencies are going to affect you different ways. To me, I see, Joel,

this 5G stuff rolling out. I see it being done in the same way they rolled out the vaccine. They're just contemptuous of any particular health effects. And we'll figure that out down the road. But, you know, we've got to get this thing done right now. So just going to deal with it. And that's my concern about all this talk about the test later today. I think there's very real concerns about how 5G is going to be used with a broader band and more capability of carrying data. It's going to be used for surveillance and control purposes.

That's a given. I'm also concerned about the lack of health information about these things. that's out there is going to be used to discredit those real concerns about potential health and the reality of the smart city control grid that they want to establish with faster bandwidth. All of those are legitimate concerns, especially the lack of long-term testing. And the ones tests that have been done, unfortunately, don't tell us the two crucial aspects. We have to know whether or not the tests are carried out properly. Yes, they irradiated mice with 5G. They don't tell us how far away and how strong the signal was from the mice.

You see, and those are the two crucial factors. I can put a transmitter right up against them and fry their brain, you know, within a couple of weeks. But unless you know that it's been a realistic setup, we just don't know how these things operate. Now, remember that we've now been operating cell phones in the 3G and 4G now for decades, and we don't have a lot of long or any medical, strong evidence of any medical effects of people even having the cell phone up against their ear.

Now, 5G is coming in. I don't have a 5G phone, but other people do. Even though they're not doing a test, we're going to see if holding that phone to their ear is going to have deleterious effects to people. Yeah, and we have situations where they put cell phone clusters close to an elementary school because they said hey it's convenient for us and they said well we got some cancer clusters with us and so you've had some local communities say well you know we

want to fight this there was a 1996 telecom act put in by clinton saying you will not object to antenna locations based on any health concerns, only aesthetic concerns. So if this is a historical district and we got this antenna there, you can object to that and we'll come out, we'll put a box around it that blends in with the surroundings. But if it's a health concern, forget about it. But a lot of these jurisdictions, this is an important thing I tell people, the federal government can say whatever it wants, but where the rubber meets the road is at the local level. And we need to start standing up at the local level. And we've got several examples in communities where they felt that it was a hazard

and they stood up to the telecommunications industry and had them move those antennas. And so, you know, that 1996 Telecom Act came 10 years after Fauci shepherded through that vaccine, Childhood Vaccine Act that gave product liability to the big pharmaceutical companies. So we see certainly a pattern here, and it is something that we need to be concerned about. But as you know adding false details to stuff and and the people who've talked about it have said you know well it's 18 gigahertz it's going to trigger this it's like well as far as i can tell 18 gigahertz is not even a 5g signal it's not one of the frequencies that they that they focus on and um and then at the same time to say very specifically it's 18 gigahertz they'll come out and well, my concern is that it's all these frequencies

at once. It's like, well, all these frequencies at once are hitting you all the time anyway. You need to be concerned about the cell phone that you leave in your pocket all day. That's going to have, just like holding that cell phone next to your head, your cell phone is sending and receiving signals even when you're

not making a phone call. And so if you've got that thing sitting in your pocket or on your body all day, ought to be concerned about that that's not a wise decision but it is you know there has to be some some context for this and some some wisdom about this stuff and it is again unfortunate that the government wants to put out stuff like this without doing health tests but you know the big issue is, and again, you know, fast internet with broad bandwidth is not a bad thing. It's a good thing. But of course, it does enable these surveillance and control systems that they want so they

can do real-time biometric analysis. And that's the thing that really concerns me is artificial intelligence and how it can be used for data mining and, you know, rapid recognition of the biometric data that they have for people. I see AI's threat not as some computer that's going to become self-aware like the Terminator, but I see it as a very, very dangerous tool of very, very dangerous people. What do you think? Yeah, I agree with you on that, David. You know, it's very important to understand two basic things about overall preparation.

You've got to first of all understand what are the big threats coming? So many people get so many concerned about these tiny, small threats. The big threat coming, of course, is a nuclear world war with Russia and China. And, you know, the reason I say it is inevitable is because all three basic power structures in the world want it. Chinese communists want it. Russia wants it. And the globalists want it. They want it because it's the only way to drive Americans into losing their sovereignty and joining a militarized global government. In order to do that, of course, that's why they passed in 1997 PDD 60,

instructing our nuclear missile forces to absorb a nuclear missile for a strike, because they know that the Russian and Chinese want to neuter the American military and then blackmail us into submission. They do not want to nuke cities they don't want to destroy the infinite they don't want to nuke power plants and pollute the land forever they want to occupy them they want living space because china can't feed their own people you know most of china is desert and they cannot grow enough food and what is irrigated often gets flooded by the yang sea river and other rivers etc but what i'm saying saying is that that's the big threat that you ought to really be preparing for. And one of the deterrents for preparation is the hope of a savior, an earthly savior. Now, I'm all for hoping that God will intervene, but unfortunately, I think we've lost the moral blessings of God because of

the corruption of people within our Western society. And this transgender and homosexual craze, which is growing by leaps and bounds, is guaranteeing that we lose the blessings of protection of God. And there has to be for and consequences for these types of things and uh but you know when you when you tend to think that trump is going to save us if only can get reelected i think that's very unlikely due to the ability to steal the election as they showed in in 2020 when for example you know the biography of my uncle, W. Cleon Skousen, just came out, and it's available on Amazon. It's very interesting. He ran this great Center for Constitutional Studies and gave thousands of seminars, educated over 400,000 people in the United States on the founding father version of the constitution.

And then when Reagan got elected the second term, all of the funding from private donate dried up. Everyone said, well, Reagan's going to save us. And then when Trump got elected, the same thing happened again. Yes. Is that, you know, and when the phony fall of the Soviet union happened, it happened again is that, you know, and when the phony fall of the Soviet Union happened, it happened again. Is that, oh, well, communism isn't an issue anymore. And the sale of his famous book, The Naked Communist, just dropped through the roof because people thought the communists had gone away.

And that was a very great propaganda coup on the part of the Soviets to fake their own demise, to get aid in trade and to disarm the West. So it's been a very difficult battle. But my point as a preparedness expert is that when people have hope that someone's going to come in and save them politically, they will not prepare. I agree. I agree. And we even see that with gun purchases, right? Well, what happens to gun purchases?

You know, while Obama or Biden get in, everybody starts buying guns. Trump gets in, all the gun sales go way, way down. They don't even care about that level of personal protection. Which, by the way, you know, if there's crime in your state, in your city or whatever, whoever is president isn't really having an immediate effect on that. But it does have an immediate effect on even that level, at the street level, as people see it. I agree with you. So what's happening is that people really need to be concerned not only about 5G, which is always in major metro areas.

5G is not a problem in rural areas. The antennas cannot be close to you as they are in buildings and high cities. You just need to be out of the big cities when this war comes, because believe me, this war is going to be precipitated by a nuclear emp strike which takes down the grid and it's going to be down for at least a year because we don't stockpile any of the long distance transformers that allows you to get the grid back up again you may be able to start an individual power plant but it can't transmit across the country without these transformers that up the voltage to go thousands

of miles and then down the voltage again to a usable voltage all those transformers are made in china and they're big as a truck and we don't have any of the stockpile except maybe two or three and there are thousands of them in the u.s so if the grid is down for a year within three to five days people are going to start to pillage there There'll be starvation. There won't be electricity. The sewers won't be operating. The water system won't be operating. And so you need to be able to get out of the big cities. Now, people are obviously tied to the big city because of jobs. That's where most of the jobs are.

But I can tell you that when the cities become a Mad Max scenario, they're not going to be any jobs, and they're not coming back for a long time. And so it's a matter of when do you prepare to leave? Do you want to leave during the chaos of a Katrina hurricane when all the freeways are backed up and people have run out of gas from the traffic jams? You want to be able to get out of town before that, and that means that you have to prepare an exit plan in my book strategic relocation i talk about how in major cities there are beltways freeways going essentially a moat because you can't get across those freeways except in places where they're on or off ramps. Now, if you look carefully on Google Maps, you'll see

there are at least two or three places to get across the freeway with an underpass or an overpass that do not correspond. I repeat, do not correspond to an off ramp or an on ramp, which will be jammed. You need to know where those crossing points are. If you have rivers that block, you need to know where the bridges are and how to get through those things and map a route that doesn't get on the main roads, but uses the back roads. I recommend to people in strategic relocation that if you cannot leave the big cities, at least you get moved to the periphery of the city, get to the outskirts of the city, get to the suburbs on the edge of the metrol and

commute in, then at least your family has a chance of being the first out without going through all the major suburban areas in the city. Now in terms of danger, the greatest danger during any period of social unrest is due to population density. Now there's a major exodus going on of all of the major democratic controlled cities that have these woke prosecutors that are, there's no cash bail anymore. You just release them. And as soon as you, the police arrest them, it's very demoralizing to the police. They don't show up for their court dates because they're not having to pay bail anymore. And so we have a major exodus going on from L.A., San Francisco, Seattle, Chicago, New York, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

Every major Democratic-controlled city is having an exodus of people because of these crime problems. And, you know, I wish the conservatives were leaving too and some of them are like they have left california what it's done is it's driven up prices in the west which are highly rated in my book strategic relocation because for example the intermountain west the cities of states of idaho utah western montana northern arizona etc they're Utah, Western Montana, Northern Arizona, et cetera. They're hundreds of miles from major metro areas. And you have to cross deserts and mountains to get to those areas from those major metros, which precludes people from walking from Nevada to Idaho, for example. But the trouble is the Californians have driven up all the prices in those areas because of the excess in those areas because of the excess of california so now the cheapest areas are still in the midwest missouri kansas iowa

other places like that the south still has a great deal of some cheap land but the problem is is the south has a a warmer climate that's why people are flocking to Florida, for example. But Florida is a zero-rated state because it's only got two ways out of that state. And without electricity, you can see those traffic jams trying to leave the state. And it becomes very difficult to live in a place like Florida or the South without electricity for air conditioning, etc. Oh, yeah, I know. I grew up in Florida without electricity. I know how miserable it was.

And I know that that was the electricity that made it livable for people to come there. Let me ask you this, though. You know what you're talking about? Planning your escape route, making sure you got some bug out and you got some place to go. But what about the cars and the effect of the EMP on the cars? What do you think is going to happen from that standpoint since all the cars have gotten increasingly under electronic control? That's true. There are dozens of computers.

You can't hardly even fix a car anymore, any of the modern cars. You have to have high-tech computer reading equipment, et cetera. It's a mixed bag nobody really knows what's going to happen especially with the new super emp weapons that are being developed but this much the government has published in their test that it's going to take at least eight or nine weapons around the united states to take down the entire grid not just one emp uh because there are you you gotta blow fuses as you go across the country so you can put up one b emp and it goes out you know for 500 miles and then it it dies because the fuses are blown around things and it doesn't continue on through the interconnectivity of the grid and so with eight or nine weapons it means that only russia and china are

going to be able to do that north korea or iran don't have that kind of power to do those but under each weapon there's an area about 300 miles where the radiation is the most advanced which can really damage cars but outside that 300 mile circle it's likely the most cars will restart again any currents formed in the computer chips will maybe shut it down but you can turn the key off and turn it back on and usually restart that's what the government testing shows so i'm not sure where those eight or nine weapons are going to be placed but here's the basic philosophy you ought to have older cars you don't have to go pre-1985 to non-computerized cars but that's the best solution to have one of those older vehicles around but you can even have prior to

2004 and if you get for example volks Volkswagen diesels, they have one computer. You can buy them cheap in a used market. You can have a spare computer that you can just plug in if it goes bad. But generally, they only have one ignition computer, and it's much less likely that they're going to fry those cars from 2004 earlier than that. There's a lot of nice cars still available in that range that are fairly EMP resistant. And there's certain things that you can do. There are EMP covers you can put over a car, like a car cover, which will diminish the radiation that gets to the computer chips.

You can also put toroids which are small round magnets that open up they have little hands open up you can put it around the cabling leading to your computer so that it absorbs the electromagnetic pulse that comes down towards your computer a lot of people don't know about that, but they're fairly inexpensive, maybe $4 a piece on the internet. I cover these types of things in my book, The Secure Home. And then you can EMP protect your house with Siemens puts on a first surge protector for about $300, which you can put on your panel. It stops the surge from the power lines, shunts it to ground. It doesn't protect the house from absorbing EMP

within the electrical wiring in the house unless you've wired your house in conduit, which nobody does anymore. And so you do have to have individual protectors on your computers and other things, but all those are readily available. So to have a surge protector, that'd be because the electromagnetic radiation would

be carried, perhaps, you know, in terms of a surge, it would, the surge going through the power grid would be greater than the direct electromagnetic radiation from the EMP is what you're saying. That would kind of extend the effect through the grid. Well, that's interesting,

you know, and of course, so again, you know, having a place that you can go to bug out, as you pointed out, getting on the outskirts of the city, having a route that you can take,

that's not going to be blocked by the interstate because that's where everybody's going to go. And you're not going to have, and that's the other part of it is that everybody's getting accustomed to driving with the uh the the maps on your phone and nobody's using paper maps anymore so you better run this route so that you know it or you got a paper map to uh follow gets to get some pay i wonder if they even sell these things anymore triple a even does triptychs or something like that but um yeah make sure that you got some kind of a paper map and paper instructions how to get out there but um uh any any other things that you would say

in terms of an emp because i do agree that that is most likely something's going to happen and we get more vulnerable to it all the time don't we we? Well, that's right. And remember that if you've got a natural gas heating supply, that can't run without grid power. They need compressors to keep the pressure up in the gas pipelines, etc. So having propane tanks as a backup is one thing, but that will only last a certain time. And without electricity, the propane refill trucks won't be able to refill because it requires electric

compressors to refill the trucks that come out to service your tanks. And the service stations where you're going to get refills for your tanks are not going to be operating because they're out of power. I've always seen that whenever there's a storm coming through in Florida, you know, we've lost all the power to the tanks, so you can't get a refill. So many things to think about with all that. But, you know, here's another thing that as we're talking about all these different aspects here joel um if they don't do an emp they might just go the really really slow route which is uh climate change because all the stuff that we're

talking about in terms of taking down the grid and making everything making life miserable for us they're doing that in a very slow motion way through climate measures that they're taking against people, aren't they? Through all this emissions control and everything. The EPA now even putting out prohibitions and demands for shutting down power stations, which is a first. We've never seen that before. Well, I have a theory, though, that I think the minions at the lower level in the globalist conspiracy do not know about the war coming. All of the people touting at the WEF, AI, Robotic Society, climate change, shutting down all electric vehicles, they're going to be a world of hurt when EMP comes along. Can you imagine all the people with electric cars with no way to charge them who haven't

installed a fairly substantial solar system to do that? Yeah, yeah. They're not going to. And it's the same thing with central bank digital currency. You see, none of that works without the internet. And the internet isn't going to be working when the grid comes down. Even the elite are going to need cash. And so I've been saying in my world affairs brief, if it comes, and it probably will come before the war, it will run concurrently with cash.

And they won't be able to eliminate it. Besides, there's trillions of dollars of American dollars everywhere. All of honored. Even the elite, you know, are going to need cash because, you know, when the electricity is down, cash will be king for a period of time. It'll take a while before gold or silver will get back into circulation because most people don't recognize, you know, my brother gives out silver dollars as tips and often he gets bellboys and, what's this man?

You know, they don't know what it is. Yeah, that's funny. Talk about what happens, you know, when you try to prepare and get off the grid, the vulnerability of solar panels to an EMP. Well, there are EMP protectors for panels and all it does is blow out the diodes. And you can buy replacement diodes and just put them back in to the back of your solar panels, and they're operating again. EMP will not affect the solar cells itself, just the diodes. But then you also might have, you know, if you've got some kind of inverter to change it over for AC power for your appliances or something like that, that is also vulnerable as well, right? Yeah, and there are EMP protectors for those too.

TransTector Corporation has a full range of solar and EMP things. So this stuff is available. You can protect your systems. It does require some expertise, but it's all available online. The most important thing that you can't buy, that you have to create yourself, is remember that when there's pillaging and refugees and massive social unrest, think Mad Max movie. I mean, it's going to be that bad someday. You need a place to get out of the way and not just a retreat that's in a rural area because as they pillage the suburbs and then all of that's gleaned out and they'll start to get out into the rural communities too. in a high security shelter into that basement that's concealed so that you've walled off you've

got a fake cabinet that you have to find the door to get in there so that when people come to pillaging your house etc you can just leave the doors open so they don't break in go into your high security shelter where they can't find you and get out of the way that's the most important strategy especially in a nuclear war that you can put a 10-inch concrete ceiling over the top, and in most places that's sufficient to cut the radiation significantly so that you can survive the radiation. You know, a lot of people give up and say, well, we're all going to die in a nuclear war anyway, so I'm not.

But you don't die. 50% of Hiroshima and Nagasaki survived without any protection. Now, they wished they were dead. They all got sick. Yeah, that's right. You see? That's right, yeah. But they survived. And you see, God only determines when you die, and you may live and wish you had prepared. So I've spent my life not only trying to warn people about these existential threats,

like the nuclear war that's coming but how to prepare against them and i hope that people take my advice and not rely on trump or any conservative getting elected again and saving us because even if trump were elected even i would not be able to root out the deep state because they control the judges they control the nsa that would have to get the wiretap evidence on them to present to the judges, and the judges are controlled and might throw it out. I mean, this is way, way too big for electoral and conservative activism to eradicate. We've waited too long. It's really in power now.

So we need to prepare and pray to God and get on our knees and ask not just that he saved the country, which is not probably in the cards, but that he inspire us of how to use our limited resources to be able to prepare so that we can survive. Because he will provide a way for most people and for a remnant, as Gary North used to say to survive this and i think i intend to be part of the remnant and hope people listening are too that's right and uh it is going to be something that again as you point out um you know god has a history of taking down entire nations to uh show his justice uh and but and yet uh even in the midst of all of that, as we see as Israel was taken away into captivity, one of the most hopeful passages in the Bible in Jeremiah 29, which says,

yeah, I know the plans I have for you to prosper, not to harm. And he tells them, even though you're going to be in captivity, on the other side of this, I've got plans for you. And God does have plans for us. The key thing is for us to see him as our protector and not some politician. That is the trap in all of this stuff. And that's why I try to tell people, it seems to me like they're trying to make him the focus just as, you know, the Democrats are wily enough in Congress to say, the Republicans are having a civil war. Let's not get in their way. Let's just fall back and we'll let them have their civil war

and we'll watch it. They are using, I think, Trump as kind of the Mason-Dixon line. Everybody knows, including the Democrats who are doing it, everybody knows that they're trumping up these ridiculous charges and they see how corrupt and one-sided, how there's no equal protection on the law and they know that that works to help trump but they're setting everybody up i think for this massive disappointment i was just talking about that earlier today uh joel um

uh tucker was interviewing victor david's uh victor is it victor david hansen about that and you know and he was saying well we'll see let's see what happens in 2024. And it's like, don't put your hope in that. You know, there are things that you can do individually. That's why I wanted to get you want to talk about that. Things that you can do individually, things you can do locally in your community and your state. And we don't need to just focus everything and all of our hopes on the

presidency, because if we do, that puts us in a very vulnerable position. And like you, I don't think that the election is really going to be an honest one. I've thought that for the longest time anyway. And now that we've had this vote by mail stuff, which was put in by Fauci and Trump in 2020, that wasn't taken off. That's now become a fixture of our lives. And so, you know, that type of stuff has gotten even more corrupt. I mean, it's gone from control the ballot and control of the debates and,

you know, not going to have any debates, but you know, they control every aspect of this process, including the final counting of the votes and the stuffing of the ballots. And now they've got a brand new way to do that. And nobody's even talking about fixing that part of it. And I look at this,

just like I said, in 2020, it's like, I don't know why I'm voting for anybody because all the people that I voted for just stepped aside and turned the government over to a bunch of unelected bureaucrats who are issuing orders to me to wear paper masks on my face and all the rest of this stuff. I said, I am. I'm kind of done with this politics stuff at this point in time. the key issue that we haven't done anything to take back those aspects and we need to understand that if there's not going to be any legal reform of these new institutions that have been put in place and are solidifying around us that we need to make individual preparation that's why what you do is so important again joelscousin.com is where you're going to find the books that

joel we didn't even get into building the secure. I have to get you back on and talk about that soon. But joelskousen.com to find the books, and worldaffairsbrief.com to get his take on what is happening geopolitically. Thank you so much for joining us, Joel. Thank you. Thank you. Always good to be with you, David. Thank you.

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