The David Knight Show - Interview: Stablecoins Turn Your Money Into Government Permission

Episode Date: October 1, 2026

Tether just bragged publicly that it froze $550 million in Iran-linked funds with the push of a button — and Tony Arterburn of Wise Wolf Gold and David Knight point out that you're one policy change away from being Iran. The CBDC brand is dead but the system is alive: stable coins backed by Treasury bills nobody wants, controlled by companies with Trump family financial stakes, with freeze capabilities more efficient than any central bank ever had. Money should have intrinsic value AND transactional privacy: Go to https://davidknight.gold/ for great deals on physical gold/silver For 10% off Gerald Celente's prescient Trends Journal, go to https://trendsjournal.com/ and enter the code “KNIGHT” For high quality made in America products go to HomeSteadProducts.shop and use promo code “Knight” for 10% off your purchases Find out more about the show and where you can watch it at TheDavidKnightShow.com If you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-show Or you can send a donation throughMail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @[e-mail] App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.

All right, welcome back. And I got my head into these terror campaigns and I forgot that we had Tony coming on today. And I'm so happy to have Tony on. And we'll talk a little bit about how the founding bastards are creating a different monetary system as well. Tether says that it helped to freeze $550 million because they were told it was linked to Iran. But they're bragging they can do it for any reason, any government anywhere on the world. That's pretty amazing, Tony. That is one of the reasons why I am so, I want to say, so distant from digital currency because of this very thing.

And, of course, Tony has Wise Wolf Gold, and you can get there through David Knight. It's a great way for you to start to get out of this financial system before it comes after you. And it's a great way to hedge against what is happening with a dollar as well. Thank you for joining us, Tony. Oh, great to be back, David. Yeah, you're right about the stable coin issue. We've been right about this. The off ramp for the public-private partnership of a controlled blockchain system that looks like CBDC, but it's actually worse, is through stable.

It has to be. It's what they're building. You look at a company like Tether, they act just like a central bank. This should be a private company. They have $187 billion market cap. They buy gold. They buy Bitcoin. But the thing, the issue that you're talking of is that they're able to, through the electronic system, freeze funds.

They're much more efficient than the Treasury can or bank accounts or through private lending or private institutions. They can do it with the push of a button. And that's the danger of stable coins. And why they're not, people link them with, say, well, Bitcoin is outside of that system. It's the only cryptocurrency, really, that's outside of that. centralized and sable coins will be that offering. You're absolutely right. It is the ultimate permission society. So the governments love that about it. And then the people running it like Lutnik and the Trump family's got their own game in this, they love the fact that they can make a lot

of money out of it. And so it checks all those boxes. You know, quite frankly, my hunch, Tony, and it has been for a while is that I think that that is an element of why they're pushing us with these hyperscale data centers as well. I think a key part of that is surveillance. It's also about making sure they control all information. It's also about controlling all financial transactions as well. I think it checks all of those boxes. That's why it is so vital them. And when you look at these tether coins, there's another box that is checked there. And that is how do they sell their worthless debt? Their T-bills that people are increasingly getting skeptical of. You got other countries don't want that. but they can put in the stable coin stuff and it's a way for them to launder their trash in a sense.

It's kind of what they did with fluoride in the water. They would have had a toxic chemical they had to do something about. So you've got a toxic asset. Just throw it into the stable coin thing and say that's the basis of our stability. Well, it's the only scenario that really makes sense. We lost the petro dollar on purpose. I mean, that 50 agreement we let lapse in 2024. And that was what propped up the dollar.

And there was a lot of thought put into like what happens next. You know, a lot of the Biden advisors were saying, well, we should just lose the world's reserve currency status in general anyway, which is catastrophic for the system that we built. So I wonder what was going to be next. I often thought this is they have to be building this new grid system. It's off on and off ramps built through stable coin. And if you see the moves that. they're making through the treasury, through these people that are placed strategically in the

Trump administration, that's the next leg for the dollar, the next, the next bit of its story for control. If you want to stay relevant, you have to build a system that people don't really have a choice with. And that's, I think that's what the fight is all about with the rest of the world right now. Like you see these other places like Hong Kong, I talk about all the time, these physical gold exchanges that are going to be in real time, be able to trade on physical bullion against the dollar, like the BRICS nations in general are doing that. They're moving to a system where they can trade around it. Meanwhile, the United States and the dollar system are pushing through these stable coin companies, this limited on and off ramp that they'll be forced

to use. And so that's the battle that's heating up. I agree. And they put out this PR report about how they've helped the government to freeze $550 million of Iran-linked tether coins this year. And they said tether is consistently demonstrated that it is not a haven for sanctioned actors, terrorist organizations, or criminal networks. So yeah, they're coming after Iran. But guess what? You might be the enemy of the state tomorrow.

We just had Trump saying anybody who opposes or protests these data centers. Oh, you are a... you're working for China, right? Whether you realize it or not. And a lot of these people are consciously opposing it, then you are terrorists. You are enemy of the state. So, well, they take your finances and lock down all of your money,

just like that, just like they did with Iran, because tomorrow you are the enemy of the state. And they put this as part of their PR thing they put out. They said the record is public. The DOJ, the FBI, the Secret Service, the HSI, OFC, FAC, and authorities around the world. Think about that. They have used tether to trace, freeze, and seize.

And they will do that to you as well. Just imagine. You know, we have, I think it's called off, off, off, or something like that, O-FAM, and the UK, the people who have been threatening American companies and saying, we're going to come after you if we don't like your content. And these are the people have been driving this, D-E-I-C-R-T censorship in the UK. And so what if the UK government asks the tether people to seize your stuff, right? Just as they are asking these social media companies to ban you or to shadow ban you or to kick you off of the platforms.

What if Israel does that because they don't like your content? That's where this all leads, isn't it? That's exactly right. And if you go back to the 24 election when Trump was talking about, Well, there's not going to be a central bank digital currency. I was in Nashville at the Bitcoin conference when he said that live. And I thought, that's interesting because, you know, his administration and under Jared Kushner, that's when they really launched the exploratory campaign into CBDC.

And of course, followed up by the Biden administration and his executive orders. Nothing really stopped with that. They said that that's the issue. People think that the branding of central bank digital currency, well, that the brand is gone. but they're going to relaunch it through this system, which is stablecoin. I mean, the ability to freeze your transactions. And if you remember, Scott Besson came out with that financial D-Day. That's something we talked about, was it two, three weeks ago?

He's going to launch this financial D-Day. And he didn't implement all of it at once, but he did mention, like, you know, sanctionable assets that they've never sanctioned before, like gold. It's usually just been bank accounts. and exports. But they're talking about sanctioning gold. He mentioned cryptocurrency. So he's actually just talking about Bitcoin and other assets. And this is and somebody asked him,

why don't you just do this all at once? He said, well, I don't want to crash the entire financial system. The financial system. So he's admitting how dangerous this is. I think about this. The reason that we've gotten where we are now with the loss of purchasing power and the dollar so catastrophic since 2000. I mean, it is the worst years for the dollar.

Like, 2002 to now, just absolutely catastrophic. And the reason is because we doubled and tripled down on the sanctions on Russia after they invaded Ukraine. That's right. You remember the metrics, the rubble had a really hard time. And then suddenly there was some announcements from the Kremlin that we're going to tie the rubble to so many grams of gold and whatever. And they bounce back. The rubble stabilized.

then they financed for Russia says we don't even take dollars anymore. That really began the term de-dollarization. It had been there before, but it really accelerated. I mean, like world usage of the dollar went from like 56% to 40%. So this is the core that's still going on. So yes, there will be these moves and maybe Tether can brag about how it can freeze funds, but you don't think that that makes the rest of the world say, hey, I'm not going to use these stable coins either.

Like, I would after this. Well, I just look at some of the foreign governments, how focused they are on censorship and canceling and control. Are you talking about the U.K.? Are you talking about Israel? I mean, they are chopping at the bit to enact financial penalties against people. It's not enough for them to just censor and ban you. No, it's not enough.

And if you look at what happened during the Canadian Truckers protest back in, 2021. Like that was a pivotal moment. People learned a lot about the Western banking system and how you can get just locked out of your entire life, have your funds frozen. They tried going after some of the bitcoins, but unsuccessful. That's what, especially if you have a decentralized wallet. So there was a lot of lessons learned from that. And the rest of the world is, is waking up to this, I believe. I mean, I have a bit of a optimistic viewpoint whenever they press on stuff like this, because it causes decentralized held assets to look even shinier and even more appealing. I mean, if you're outside of the banking system, well, I can't be completely outside

because I have to run my business. But I like knowing that I have physical gold, physical silver, that I have a Bitcoin wallet, whether you like Bitcoin or not. But those are things that make it a lot harder for some private institution or a public institution to freeze me out of my own wealth. That's right. That's right. It's kind of like having a home garden.

And so when you look at this, yeah, you're right. They said they made a big deal out of saying, we're not going to have a central bank digital currency, but then they start with these stable coins, which they have a financial interest in. That's why I call them CCDC, crony capitalist digital currency instead of a central bank. Still the same thing because they can still control and shut this down. It's just a fine spin, you know, what Trump is doing saying, we're not going to have CBDC to pivot over to the tether coins and things like that. The same thing that he's doing right now with trying to do with AI.

He's trying to reinvent it, right? It's got bad PR that everybody is really disgusted with the term AI. And so let's change the name. You know, it's still going to be the same thing. Functionally, it'll be the same thing, perhaps even worse. But let's just change the name. And so then when you look at the people that are with him, as I call them, the founding bastards of the new society, but people like Musk and Zuckerberg, so all the usual suspects were there, except they had a different executive from OpenAI. Sam Altman wasn't there.

But other than that, they had everybody. I mean, you got Sundar P. Chai. You've got, you know, all of them, Jensen Huang, Jeff Bezos, all these guys were there. And they're writing the new rules, which are no rules for them, but just rules for us. And as you look at what Musk is doing with X, he said when he took it over, he's going to make it an everything app. And so Jeffrey Tucker wrote an article about it. He said, well, I was kind of skeptical that he would be able to do that. But it looks like he is about to pull this off.

And he said, if you look at it, he's going to pay people an interest rate that is quite high compared to the fact that you don't get paid anything if you got money in your checking account and the banks anymore. that all changed. And he said their annual percentage yield is an eye-popping 6% as an initial customer acquisition rate. A high rate plus instant peer-to-peer transmission, a metal visa card with 3% cashback and early direct deposit is meant to pull balances and daily activities onto the platform. The problem is, it's a trap. I got to say, and I'll just say this, Tony, I set up Twitter my Twitter account for the show. I set it up at the, I've been shadow ban for years. I thought, well, maybe there's some way that I can get out of this

if there's some things that I can do at the higher level. So I went up to the second highest tier that they had. And the very first thing they have in there in terms of features is customer support. Well, it wasn't long after that that they not only double charged me. I couldn't get me to respond to that, but then I couldn't log in. And it accepts my login credentials, but then it hangs. up. And it does that on every browser, and we've tried it on multiple browsers. We've tried it on multiple machines. And we've tried it in multiple locations. It's not even just going off of our

Wi-Fi network that we've got here. This has happened even when Travis goes to Texas. And so we cannot get into the Twitter account. I've got a couple of, we stream on Twitter, the show, but that's a computer that's not been logged out. Once it gets logged out, we won't be able to use at all. They absolutely refuse to respond. And I'm looking at this and saying, why would I let these people be a bank? They don't do anything in terms of connecting to you. And I've seen them in my experience with both Twitter and with X after must took it over. They are highly controlling of speech. So I would never trust them with this. And even Jeffrey Tucker, after he is very impressed with it, He said, well, pessimistically, X-Money becomes just another new layer of emergent financial control grid that spies on us and even worse.

The integration of money and social media reminds me of China's social credit system. It should because that's exactly what it's based on, isn't it? It's the technocratic takeover that they want to implement. Zuckerberg came out with the Libra coin, and I thought, well, my tagline would be Libra-Me, alone. I don't want to, I don't want with your, with your digital currency. I mean, just piggybacking off of some of the innovations that were made off of the Bitcoin decentralized network and making it a, I think, an inversion of something that's. Well, yeah, even in his white paper where we put it out buried in the middle of the white paper in one line, he kind of buried the lead. And he said,

this could serve as a de facto global ID. Right. So he was, that was his pitch to the different governments. It's like, you want a global ID? I can do that for you, right? They didn't go for it, but that's what he was trying to put it out there for. He understands exactly what he's doing. And when you see something like, you see this guy allied with Elon Musk, allied with Sundar, Peach Eye, it's like, man, what are these people put together with Trump? It truly is crazy. And you and I don't know the catastrophic effect that if they were to implement a lot of these, the technocracy goals of centralizing current. and the ability to create a social credit score,

it would be so catastrophic for free markets, for wealth. Markets love certainty, the ability to take risk, the ability to have access to your funds, some sort of equal justice under law. Like there has to be an equilibrium. And they're just removing that with all of these new systems that they want to implement. I don't know that they'll be successful,

just given what I know about the macro sense of, the monetary system around the world and how it's changing. It's not getting a lot of press right now. But those who are in the know are moving away from these systems where you can be sanctioned, where you can have your accounts frozen so easily, you know, where you can move across borders and things like that. That's any large industry of capital, any sort of real player in the system wants to get out of that. That's right.

meanwhile they're building it here. That's right. Yeah, we are the epicenter of this new thing here. And I've said for the longest time, I said, why is it that conservatives and alternative mainstream media doesn't have a problem with Scott Besson being connected to George Soros? Well, it turns out that Mises does have an issue that at an article. Beware of George Soros types and government finance. And they point out that it was not just Scott Bessent, but it was also Stanley Dricken Miller, who I don't know anything about, but they say that he is since after he left

Soros. He went on to be one of the most successful hedge fund managers, one of the best records on Wall Street over several decades. Scott Besson, on the other hand, set up a hedge fund that closed because of poor performance during a period of record growth in the stock market. His second attempt didn't fare much better. And so then he gets into government and Trump brings him in. And this is the thing I didn't realize was that Kevin Warsh, I knew about his connections with his father-in-law, the S.D. Lodder fortune that made him a billionaire. But he also had connections in a secondary way to this George Soros group. He worked for Druchin-Miller as a high-level analyst. And so he's also a part of that network. I guess it's who you know, isn't it? and yeah sorry go ahead it explains a lot about 2020 if you go back to remember the summer of love after george floyd and you had all this speculation all these sorrows funded entities what were they doing

flying people around the country you know having these organized protests and like the cities were on fire had these uh you know incidents where pallets of bricks were just found and you know these sites where there was about to be a protest and i thought well that we've got to do something about, like, investigate these Soros groups. Well, nobody ever did. And that makes a lot of now. Fast forward to 2026, I believe Soros-related people inside the financial mechanism of the Trump administration. I guess that really does track now. Yeah. Now, we've got these Soros people in charge of the Treasury Secretary and the Federal Reserve as well. He points out Kevin Warsh's nomination occurred on January 30th. That's when Goal first suffered a historic single-session drop, plunging from nearly

$5,594 to 4745, about 14% of value in a matter of days. Then at the end of February, gold had a significant recovery up to $5,300, and they start the war. He said the summer was a time to buy gold for many players like China and many unknown strategic investors. Again, whenever they see the price drop, they know what the true value is in spite of what the market is reacting to. so they load up on it. And so it says, then in the end of July, Bessent made his infamous trade of selling euros for Japanese yen.

And gold prices suffered a sharp immediate multi-day drop following the currency intervention. This opened a small window of opportunity for gold buyers. But he said, and I like this phrase, did almost nothing to help the government debt crisis in the U.S. or Japan. He said that's essentially using your credit card to pay your more. mortgage. That was a good example. That really is what Scott Besson is doing. He's using a credit card to pay for the mortgage. You're using short-term debt to pay for long-term issues that are there. It's just shuffling the stuff around, isn't it? Well, that and you've got the bond yields. It's a crisis now because it's a 24-year high. And so that makes that debt extremely expensive for the United States

government, except now, you know, the debt of the U.S. in 2002 was around five and a half trillion. So now we're at 40. You have so little room to maneuver anymore. Yeah. So the issues larger and larger and the options gets fewer and fewer. So they have this debt crisis that's looming on the horizon. They have a bond crisis. They have a currency crisis. And in the middle of that, David, and you and I both know, there's a war on real money. They've had a war on the Treasury of the United States, the Federal Reserve, the Western finance in general has targeted since 1971 has tried its best to keep gold and silver prices from truly reflecting the loss of purchasing power in fiat currency. It's one of the reasons why you can go have a war.

This is good for the powers that be, at least temporarily, because it makes the price of crude go up. It creates this artificial, even this is, the inflation that it creates is, is so destructive. It's beyond just regular quantitative easing or the expansion of the money supply, because it's the inflation brought on by real price changes in what makes everyday life possible, which is energy. They've really done a number on the American people and the rest of the world with these energy prices. And they knew that that was going to happen, by the way. There's no there is no way they didn't understand that this is going to cause some sort of, you know, shortly short term for the year it's going to cause this massive spike in energy prices so you know again

the war on real value has been played out for the last 50 years uh they're running out of options to do that and you look at who's buying gold like you look we discussed last week the chinese bought like a thousand tons or no it's 1200 tons so far this year uh you know the the the total holdings of the US back when, you know, we were 50% of the world's wealth, you know, after the end of World War II, it's around 8,000 or so tons of gold. So if you look at what, how much China has accumulated since the beginning of this century alone, and a lot of that was bought off the books. The analysis, I believe there's some great journalists that I've read that said, you know, China has more gold than the U.S., which is probably true. Yeah.

And, you know, because we haven't been accumulating. It'll be true pretty soon, yeah. If it's not already, yeah. I think that is the issue is that the world understands, like, if you look at something that's confiscatable or sanctionable, which is going to be the banking system, they're moving outside of that. And they're building their own rails for something completely new. Meanwhile, you know, the powers that be in these Soros linked people want to create this digitized surveillance state money, which not only that, it's not just the ideological bent, I believe, but they're going to get rich. doing it. I mean, these companies building these things, whether it promotes freedom or free markets or prosperity, regardless of that, it's still going to get a massive windfall for those who have a linkage to it. So there's probably, you know, personal stuff on that as well in

golden parachutes. But no doubt. If you look at what they've done in terms of giving the charter to the world liberty financial, I think is what it's called, this scam of the Trump crime family, they've already got them in as really the first chartered bank. in this system. And so they're getting in trying to set themselves up as the Rothschilds of the new digital currency, I think is really the game that the Trump people are setting up. Well, they may be trying to do that and they may be successful, but I think it'll be a peer at victory where the sense that if they'll corrupt system that gave birth to wealth in general for the West, for what made America so prosperous was the ability to move funds around

freely to to obtain capital to take risk and other things you're making the market so uncertain and you can start with state players like they're doing and using you know things like tether and freezing funds but eventually it'll it'll trickle down and i'm sure it already has to individuals to companies to people that they don't like uh the people that aren't saying the right things or funding the right uh political um you know uh candidates or movements or whatever so i I think that's what makes all this very dangerous. It's not the technology. It's who wields it and why.

That's right. And we all know the Federal Reserve's been a crime syndicate since its inception. It was set up to allow them to do all kinds of secretive, illegal, and types of things. They have destroyed nearly 100% of the value of the money of the last 100 plus years, 110 years or so, and 113, I guess. So when we look at what they've done, and it's, spend their superpower in order to fund these wars that they do, the coups that they do. It's their superpower to bribe and blackmail state governments, corporations and everything, as we saw in spades in 2020, but they've been doing that in various ways for the longest amount of time.

That's how they got so much debt is because they just keep printing more and more of this paper. So when that breaks, and if it does break, and if it does destroy the power of the central bank, the Federal Reserve. That would be a real freeing thing for all of us, but it would be a very difficult adaptation to go through that when you look at what would happen to the dollar in our purchasing power. But already they're getting to the point where they're competing so much for capital that the clock is already ticking on this thing. Yeah, I've been running some scenarios through AI looking at charts and historical figures and trying to make a comparison to 2008.

Because if you, I remember distinctly because I was running a retail gasoline station in my family on and I had an ownership in it. And I was, it was a high volume like 200,000 gallons a month. And you start going from $2.20 a gallon to $4 a gallon and beyond. And then, you know, back then we didn't have the diesel crisis like we have now.

So it's worse. Oh, yeah. So the price is worse. So I watched that in real. time and I also had a real estate business. And I watched as in real time as the prices of energy went up, the prices of fuel, and I watched the declining home purchases. And then I watched the defaults. I was watching that in 2008. I was 28 years old. I think there's there's something is going to crack. And of course, that was the 2008 financial, the great financial crisis, 2008, 2009.

And so if you look at what's happening with consumer credit card defaults right now, the metrics they're they're up over last year but the data still isn't in yet but foreclosures david real-time foreclosures that have been finalized are 42 percent higher this time this year than last year and that's the see those are that's what i watch because the the major expenses for american households the first thing to go right it's it's like the largest expense and unfortunately with these rises and it's not just at the pump as you mentioned earlier in the show it's everything. It's the price of food. It's the price of, you know, your clothing. Everything goes up because of transportation and then built-in cost. So something has to default. And the key here,

I think, and what to watch for and something like even, you know, Gerald Salentes brought this up about commercial office defaults and other things. When these companies at home, they own like large swaths of commercial real estate, try to go refinance after some of their loans are about, you know, coming due and they have balloon. They're going to be coming into a market where there's less liquidity, higher interest rates, and greater chances of default. So we could be looking at another 2008-2009 scenario. That's right.

They've got to keep this AI bubble going because if that goes, that's really the only thing they've got. We've got to take a quick break and we're going to be right back. We'll be right back with Tony. Stay with us. Here's a little song I wrote. You might want to hear it in your. pod, you'll owe nothing, and be happy.

Ain't got no cash, ain't got no car, but 24 booster shots in your arm. Oh, nothing, be happy. You can't even buy shit in the store because of your low social credit score. Oh, nothing. Be happy, oh, nothing. Be happy and eat the bugs. Yeah, they're all singing the same tune, aren't they? Trump, you know, he enacted, or had his Alex Azar enacted.

Right after he came back from Davos in 2020, they said, oh, yeah, we got a pandemic that's going on. At that point, I think they'd had something like a half dozen cases. Nobody had died. But that kicked it off. Yeah, they're all singing the same tune. And I think the tune is to make sure that we own nothing to make them happy. I think that's what's really what's going on. We're talking to Tony Ardabon of Wise Wolf Gold.

And, of course, you can get to Tony through David Knight. gold as well. Let him know that you came through us. When we're looking at this, Tony, I just had, you know, a lot of people are thinking, how can we utilize gold? And of course, we talk about the goldbacks and other things like that that can be done. And people are getting very serious in terms of trying to set up state systems that had Frank Nicely here in Tennessee was trying to get that done. They're starting to work on that in Texas as well. But there's other things that you can do in terms of the goldbacks that you will sometimes put into the wolf pack stuff that's a wolf pack for those people who don't know is a way for you to determine that you want to

have X amount of money each month that you want to save into gold or silver and Tony will send that out you know anything from 50 bucks up and I think actually you go down to 35 for the kids thing there but he puts that out on a monthly basis and you'll get some gold. or silver in each of those. And so sometimes he puts in things like goldbacks. And that was a real eye-opener for me and a lot of other people. We had somebody who asked a question. And Travis lost the question there.

So I don't know who it was that asked it. But they asked a question about how is, is there anything that you know of that would allow people to buy and sell real estate with gold? But that's a very different thing than taking it in on a retail basis with the goldbacks because they've got an app that shows how to convert that denomination of gold into fiat currency so the merchant knows what to do with it. I think the easiest way to do that was to get with your title company, however you're closing the actual transaction with real estate and then find a dealer and then let the dealer

fund it. I think that would be the easiest thing to do. If you had a person that was just going to take the gold or silver as payment and they knew how to verify it, then you could do that and have the title company sign off on it as funds received, kind of like if you were going to bring them cash or something. It's doable. Like if somebody, one of your listeners actually is trying to do that, then just call me. Well, you know, the thing is, I think, you know, when if it really hits the fan in this scenario, I think people are going to get very creative very quickly and they will come up with ways to be able to accept and to use gold because

necessities a mother of invention. Right now, there's no incentive really for people to get involved in that. And so we just kind of have things like the greenbacks that are there. But I think if, you know, the American dollar crashes in a big way, people will find a way to accept and to use gold. I think that absolutely will come on very quickly. It's funny because a hundred years ago, that wouldn't even be a question. You would just transact. I don't like that would thing because we just had a gold and silver standard. And you don't even have to have the government back up to have a gold or silver standard. It's something that's inherent to the world economy. So you're right. And we have a bit of like atrophy on our ability to use actual money anymore. It's, it's Gresham's

law. You know, Gresham's law states that when bad money enters a system, then good money goes into hiding, actual money. And that's what happened in 1971. And you can see that reflection of the price. the loss of purchasing power is reflected in the spot price of gold. That's what we're witnessing. So it will be in 10 years that you're, what you're watching the future, right? If you're talking about tech and some of these other states that have made gold and silver legal tender,

you know, Arkansas is working on that of Missouri. You know, I'm in Branson right now. It's one of my main shop. My headquarters is in Branson. But I think that that will be the future, David, is people using money outside. side of the system. And I think that's the fight that these technocrats have on their hands. Like, you know, they did that. I believe it was in, was it in Zimbabwe where they, they started using,

or Nigeria, it's Nigeria. They started using, you know, people use Bitcoin. It was very, I mean, ubiquitous and it was used all the time. It still is. And some of the planners, the banksters were like, hey, let's give them a CBDC. And nobody wanted it. Like, nobody used it. They couldn't adopt. They like this digital currency. The issue is that it's currency and money that you can trust, you know, to verify things, real value. And that will be as each year passes by,

especially with the chaos that we have right now, gold and silver and things like Bitcoin will look a lot more attractive. That's right. Yeah, people just don't trust their leaders. And that's something that is universal and I think well deserved. They just had a situation in the Democrat, so-called Democratic Republic of the Congress. probably not too democratic.

And they executed the crowd basically got a hold of one of these government officials who was involved in some of the bullish shenanigans there and executed him. I mean, this is the type of thing that we're seeing, Gen Z. That's another trend that Gerald Sinty has talked about, how Gen Z is looking at this and saying, well, if these guys are able to implement their system, we don't really have a future. And so you're seeing these kind of uprisings happening everywhere. The question is, is it going to come to Western society? I think that it will.

The meme culture, just to talk about Gen Z, and my algorithm feeds me stuff, you know, some of the AI usage with Gen Z, and you can tell, like, their mentality for the left-right paradigm and power structure is, it's next level cynical. And it's funny. Like they have a, I don't, there's a, there's a character. I have to find him and send it to, but they have a character on AI that's the my algorithm feeds me. And it's got to be a Gen Z or David, got to be. But it's like a, they call him Magatard.

And he's just like the obese thing that rides in a rap, you know. I've seen that. Yeah. I've seen it. It is, it's somebody. They have Erica Kirk and all these other people in the in the show. Like they make a, with AI, it's insane. but that the technocrats lost the future you know and it's funny because they're fighting history

you know humanity in in in general is decentralizing through technology and uh in looking at things trends you know for people wanting to uh you know be in areas where people are like themselves you know and have you know some sort of of cultural cohesion and the the the globalist technocrats really did a job at selling that and you you know you play uh that klaus schwab parody song that was the point of the world economic forum which you know ironically the world economic forum started in 1971 the same year that we went off the gold standard it's kind of a product of fiat you know like the the fake system that they built and i'll never forget like the clip i'd like to show the maga people of trump with klaus swab going he's doing a great job you ever seen that one when he's at he's in d'alvo you

Yeah, yeah. Like he's doing a great job, you know, right before the scammedemic. I think that's probably something you can put in our W column, at least optimistically, as the younger generation just thinks all of this is a farce. I think that's true. And that's especially true, you know, when you're talking about these central bank digital currencies, we're talking about AI and all the rest of this stuff. These people are playing a game over the last couple of days.

Nobody believes anything they have to say. It's just amazing, you know, if it was a, when you see all of their pronouncements, I don't see Mogatard even jumping in on the AI stuff. I mean, they just get ratioed everywhere. The ratio of negative comments to people who support them is off the charts. Nobody buys this stuff. Nobody wants any of the stuff that they're selling or pushing on people. I think it's going to meet and find a market with no buyers.

I mean, it'll be something to force. And again, something forced is not really. something that's truly adopted, the Soviet Union figured that out. You know, after they could rule, but they couldn't capture the hearts and minds. It wasn't something that was truly ingrained in people. I think that's the challenge that the overlords have now. And why I think it's probably more important than ever to study monetary history. Like, what, how did we get here?

What funded all this nonsense? Like, who funded these people? You know, on a microcosm, you get the Wilbur Rosses of the world who fund the Trumps. And we get, now we get the. Now we get the byproduct. Like all this come to fruition, you know, other thing that they did back,

you know, in the 90s, we're, we're reaping that harvest. But I think it's interesting that, you know, you have so many things that are happening decentralized on the, on the local levels and state levels and,

and then seeing what the rest of the world is doing. They don't want these, they don't want this digitized, uh, sanctionable system. So I agree. That'll, you know,

as I look at this, as they keep pushing and pushing on this, point out nobody's buying any of the stuff that they're selling. You're not buying the narrative. Don't believe this. Don't trust them in anything. What is their option? I mean, their option is to really get violent and to use a lot of force to create wars.

And we're starting to see that really ramp up abroad. And so, again, it's just, you know, learn some skills, learn to get independent in terms of your food and your finances. I think that is the big takeaway. Get local, get physical. I think that's the best thing that you can do in as many ways as you can. You're not going to solve everything, but just get a start on it. That's what Jack Lawson always talks about.

He said, people look at this and think about doing prepping. He said, just start simple. You know, just start putting some cans of food under your bed and start preparing. Or just get into Wolfpack and start gradually accumulating some gold and silver that's going to basically be something you can fall back on. You've just got to start small, start with that single step and start to get something done. and it'll build from there. But tell us a little bit about what's going on at Wolfpack right now.

Well, it's just same as always, I think. I can't believe we've been doing Wolfpack now for four years. We crossed the four-year mark this last month, so that's insane to me. I can't believe that. If you've been around Wolfpack, some of your listeners have been Wolfpack members since the beginning, they've done pretty well. I think Gold Prize 15, you know, back when we could put Gold Grams and the Warrior year wolves, you know, for the 125s and still get a lot of silver.

The prices, you know, they, they're reflecting the purchasing power that's lost in the dollar. That's really what's happened. And I don't think we've reached a real price discovery, David. And that's fine. We have a lot of room to move still yet in the price. Don't get depressed on that. You know, I have silver folks that I bought in 100 that I wasn't able to move.

It's just sitting over here in my safe. It's fine. I don't worry about it at all. It'll be there in, years when that passes over and has, you know, it's $200 an ounce or whatever it's going to be. I mean, I'm not, isn't a price prediction. It's just a math equation, you know, more dollars, more debt, it equals less purchasing power. That's going to happen. So these metals, I think, will reflect that. And it's a good thing to have some, some physical things outside of

the system. And that's what Wise Wolf was built for and Wolfpack, especially the subscription deal. So I agree. David. We look at the. We look at the. stuff, it's just a lot of noise that is coming out there. They act to every little thing. And I think a lot of that is being amplified by the people who want to play the market and want to hype every little tiny change so they can create an opportunity to buy. And so they know what the long term value is. And so what these people are always looking at, they don't make money when the market goes sideways. They like it to jump up and down. They can buy the peaks in the valleys and and exchange it. We don't do that type of thing. We're looking at the long term, at least I don't. I'm

looking at the long-term reality that's there. And I'm looking at the system that they want to build. I'm thinking, you know, what, if anything, can I do to get out of that system? And that's part of what we, a big part of what we can do in terms of finances to try to get out of that system. It's very important what you offer there. And I've done business with you longer than 2022. And so I really do appreciate the service that you've got there. I don't know anybody else that lets people set up a basically a monthly savings program. But you might want to think about Even though Elon Musk is enticing you with a 6% rollover savings account, you might want to think about the fact that he might just take it all at some point in time.

You make sure that you can't even log into your account. It doesn't really matter to them. And, you know, there's nobody on the line that will respond to you. I think there's really something going on there that is very nefarious. But anyway, you know, make sure you've got it physical. Don't have it online and try to get these people or try to try to. to grab everything that you've got, try to get them out of your life as much as you can. It's always great talking to you, Tony.

And you've got a broadcast coming up today after this show. Arterburn Radio transmission will be live here at 12 Eastern 11 Central. That's great. Bumble America channel and my ex at Tony Arterburn. The common man. They created common core to dumb down our children. They created common past to track and control us. Their commons project to make.

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