The David Knight Show - INTERVIEW Stopping Pistol Brace Ban & Other Fed Overreach at State Level 

Episode Date: May 26, 2023

ATF hopes to make millions of gun owners into felons by their "rule" banning pistol braces. The Tennessee legislature has already moved to protect gun owners but will Gov Lee (R) successfully twist arms for gun control in a Special Session he's called for August? State Senator Frank Niceley onTN-3 insurrection and whether it will be repeated in the Special SessionState measures to protect the people from Fed Reserve financial contagionnullification of federal bureaucratic overreachFind out more about the show and where you can watch it at TheDavidKnightShow.comIf you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here:SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-showOr you can send a donation through Mail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @[e-mail] App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Money is only what YOU hold: Go to DavidKnight.gold for great deals on physical gold/silverFor 10% off Gerald Celente's prescient Trends Journal, go to TrendsJournal.com and enter the code KNIGHTBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.

All right, joining us now is Senator Frank Nicely. He is in the Senate here. He sits on the Commerce Commission, as well as the Transportation Commission, I believe. But you also, I think, are the number two on the Commerce Commission. And as part of that, he's been very interested in trying to make sure that Tennessee is going to stay fiscally sound and have an option for people in case the Federal Reserve takes us off the rails which looks like it's starting to happen but i thank you for joining us senator it's always great dave it's a lot to talk about it yeah and we've had a good session we in spite of the uh tennessee three and the excitement they caused and you know i i started out in minority

party and when you're in the minority party, especially a super minority about all you do, so bombs and a wreak havoc and those boys were really good. I admire their ability to call trouble. I don't agree with the thing they stand for, but they are good. I want to talk about that. I want to talk about that. And I want to talk about the August special session, but, uh, I got to give you credit because, uh, as DeSantis was talking about Florida, he said, you know, Florida has the

second lowest per capita debt of any state. I said, I bet the first one is Tennessee. And I looked it up and it was, uh, so you guys have done a great job in terms of keeping taxes low and spending low. And, uh, we've got the best record in terms of per capita debt. spending low and, uh, got the best record in terms of per capita debt. So we want to keep it that way. Well, David, the Democrats ran this state for 150 years and they,

for the old school Democrats, the old Southern gentlemen, Democrats, you pro-business Democrats, uh, they're all gone now, none of them left. And they, uh, the state almost went broke during the Great Depression and they were determined not to let that happen again. I've got a lot of admiration for some of the old-time Democrats that I knew when I first went there in 1988. They did a great job. When we inherited the state 11, 12 years ago, we were in pretty good shape. The difference was the Democrats would raise some kind of little tax every year. Your marriage tax, your hunting license. They just couldn't have it. We just barely getting by, but they didn't waste money. But when we took over, we started cutting taxes.

Art Laffer told us to, if you want more money, cut taxes. Well, we believed him and we tried it and it worked. And within a couple of years, we would have a billion dollar surpluses. So we inherited a state in pretty good shape and we inherited a good state and made a great state out of it. I agree. Yeah. And so you're trying to get some of that surplus and it's something that's going to be kind of a hedge against, um, bad actions or incompetence by the federal reserve, trying to get them to put more and more of that into gold.

You've had some success. Where do they stand in terms of Tennessee state owning gold and the efforts to create a bullion there? And of course we want to talk about the, the efforts to set up a state bank or as you call it, Tennessee reserve system. But let's talk first about the gold, how are they doing in terms of taking some of that surplus

and putting it into gold? We passed the bill this year. I sponsored it and luckily we passed it to buttholes. He carried it in the house. It allows the treasurer to buy gold and silver. And, uh, we, we, we've been working on the treasure for seven, eight years, maybe, and, um, he wrote the bill and he put in there what I thought might possibly be a poison pill.

It set up on appropriation. And, but rather than try to change it, I thought we better run with what we had. So we did. And then we asked the speaker of the Senate about it. He said, oh,

that's no problem. So everything's appropriated. The rainy day fund appropriated, you know, the retirement fund, everything's appropriated. So he said, that's no problem. He said, everything's appropriated. The rainy day fund is appropriated. You know, the retirement fund, everything's appropriated. So he said, that's no problem. So we got that passed. The Speaker of the Senate, Randy McNally, doing a great job.

They're having a meeting on June 8th, and they will decide at that time how we're going to move forward on this gold and silver. And we're working with a group up in Greenville, Tennessee called artisan ZN on the end. It's an old zinc company. They made zinc jar lids back in the old days when the cannon jars had zinc lids. That's how they got started. And of course that played out. Now they make pennies, zinc pennies, seven billion a year for the, for the feds.

And, uh, there's some talk about doing away with the pennies. So if they do away with the pennies, these boys need somewhere to go. So they want to become the company that makes silver rounds, troy ounce rounds for the various states and half rounds. And they want to build a facility and have a depository. Hopefully that could be the place where if you wanted to pay your taxes in gold and silver, hopefully, you could go to them. Make an asset and make sure it's real.

They could accept your gold and silver and the state, give it to the state, and the state could send the county the money. We're working on making gold and silver legal tender. We're going to have a study committee this summer and talk more about that. Other states have done it, but we've got lots of questions from other people. I mean, we don't have the questions, but other people have the questions. And we're moving in the right direction. I had about four different states, southern states, that are interested in what we're doing.

And we're going to Charleston in July with the Southern Legislative Council. And we're going to try to get, Catherine's going to be there, Catherine Austin Pitts. We're going to try to talk to some of these other states and get a compact with these other states where we can all get on the same page. So if we issue a dollar and Mississippi issues a dollar, we would honor their dollar then honor ours um and it's um katherine worries about financial transaction

freedom yes yeah and some of these routes that we have to use to pay everybody are entangled with the federal reserve routes and we want to get our routes We want to have an alternative set of routes where if the feds try to stop everything, then we'll have routes where we can pay our retirees, pay our help, and transfer money between these compact states without the feds. Now, we're not wanting to leave the union. We're wanting to get it in a position of strength to where we can show the union, listen, if you don't keep your, your end of the bargain, we'll move on without you, but we want to stay with you.

That's right. But we want you to do the right thing. Well, and of course, they're not holding up their end of the bargain. Yeah. The constitution says, uh, the states aren't going to use anything except gold and silver. Anyway. So it's a bit awkward for them if they want to start playing legal games with things like that.

But, uh, what about, uh, the approach that DeSantis took in terms of UCC? Has there been any thought or talk about doing something like that here in Tennessee? Cause he basically reversed. Well, he basically reversed. Sorry, go ahead. You don't know much. I don't know too much about what DeSantis.

I do know that. Like you said, he, he, he doesn't like CBDC, which we don't like either. Nobody likes CBDC, central bank digital currency. And the central bank digital currency doesn't like bitcoins and other cryptos. So, uh, one's centralized and one's not centralized. And the one that's centralized doesn't like the one that's not centralized. So, um, you know, I like DeSantis.

I like a lot of things that he says. To me, DeSantis has three problems. Harvard, Yale, and Jeff Bush. He's three big problems. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, he's got. But other than that, he's fine, young man. I understand.

Well, what he did was, and I think last time we talked, you had Kristi Noem, governor of South Dakota, said she went on Tucker. That's how far back it's been. Tucker's been gone for a month. But she went on with Tucker, and she said it was being floated around to about half of the states. The idea that they were going to put in the UCC, the Universal Commercial Code, that crypto was not going to be allowed, but it would explicitly embrace CBDC. She said, I vetoed that, but it's been put out to a lot of different states and people need to be on the lookout as to what's happening in their state. Shortly after that, DeSantis did the opposite.

What he did was he said we're going to stop cbdc and we're going to enable crypto so i was just wondering if there was any talk about that ucc approach in tennessee i guess not people haven't talked about that there was a bill there was a bill introduced and uh we realized what it was and we uh uh made sure they pulled the bill it did it did not pass okay in tennessee there was a bill introduced to do that and we uh we cut on to it pretty early good you know the amazing thing this tennessee legislature is a it's an interesting bunch of people i mean it's uh if you're not it's you can't explain it to anyone who's never been there. I just wasting your time, but, um, we've got some pretty sharp characters

down there that pay attention and we've, it's, uh, that's good. You would be impressed with how they do a lot. They do crazy things every now and then, but at the end of the day, we do more good things if we do crazy things. That's good. So you guys got that many people up all winter. You guys caught that. Many people up all winter. You guys caught that. You guys caught that trap.

So, uh, yeah, as we look at the candidates coming out, you know, DeSantis is, is against it. Uh,

it was good to see that we had RFK jr. On the other side, because now it's a bipartisan thing. Uh, we don't want this to be, you know, something that becomes partisan. So everybody opposes it or supports it simply because it's in their

party. And then Ramaswamy has also come out for it. A lot of the other candidates have not. They have either been silent or in support of CBDC. So that's concerning. That's why it's important for us to do something at state level, important for us to try to have a parallel system. And I loved what you did when you said you're going to call it the Tennessee reserve system, because when you call it a public bank, the small, medium-sized

banks get concerned about it. They think you're going to compete with them. And it's not about competition with them, is it? No, no. It's about supporting them. But in Tennessee, we have, uh, we have what we call the Tennessee investment pool, and we may have $30 billion in it at a time. And we loan that money to banks, small local banks.

We'll buy their CDs. They need money. We'll buy CDs, give them some money, short-term. It works real good, and it's not a bank. See, banks, if we create a bank, banks have rules, regulations, restrictions, and are hamstrung. They do this. They can't do that.

But this investment pool is controlled by the treasure, the legislature, election, the treasure, if he gets out of hand, we'll pick somebody else, the people elect the legislature. So it's like an indirect election. Uh, Tocqueville really locked indirect elections, by the way, he, he thought Taylor, that was the best way to go. Elect some good people and then let them elect some excellent people. But by doing it with letting the treasurer be in control of it,

we get out from under all these rules and regulations that the banking industry has been saddled with through the years. And we can pretty much do anything that they could do. We can do anything they can do. We can call it the Tennessee Reserve System. That's something everybody seems to – this actually would be a Tennessee system. It would actually be a reserve, unlike the Federal Reserve System, which is not federal and has no reserve.

Right. That's right. So you do have already something that has a lot of the elements of, let's say, the North Dakota State Bank. We do. We basically have the equivalent of North Dakota state bank, except you can't make deposits and, um, but they can make loan to banks. The main thing, the state that North Dakota bank does is supports its local

banks. They have more local banks and credit unions per capita than any other state. That's because the local banks have an option. They can, they can go with the federal reserve or they can go with the Bank of North Dakota. They've got an option. And that's the hardest thing to explain to these local banks. And I think the problem is, I think the Federal Reserve comes in and sours the well on us, feeds them a lot of nonsense.

You know, when North Dakota started its bank, the Federal Reserve was just six years old and didn't have the lobbyists to send around to North Dakota and lobby the legislature. So they were able to get it pushed through. Now then, the Federal Reserve is so powerful, they can come in here with some slick-tongued lobbyists and sow the well on us. But since we've already got this investment pool and we're happy with it we know how it works i think we're pretty good shape that's good that's good uh you know i just saw this article in new york city uh they're taking the esg the environmental and societal governance rules to the local banks and they're saying uh we're not going to do business with you

anymore unless you guarantee to us that you're going to do business with you anymore unless you guarantee to us that you're going to follow our rules in terms of climate you're going to follow our rules in terms of gun control and things like that so they're putting you know all kinds of financial pressure uh on the system in order to enact what they want to do and i guess that's one of the reasons why it's important for us to have uh you know you know, certainly to have, uh, politicians that are not going to do that type of thing, but also to have this parallel system that's there because that could very easily come from Washington as well and put these banks out of business because that's what the New York city is trying to do. Capital one key bank, uh, some big banks there,

uh, that they've currently got tens of millions of dollars with. They said, you're not going to get another cent from us. And these banks are saying, um, that's fine. We're not going to comply with it, which is kind of surprising. Uh, they, these two in particular, they had five banks. They were completely sound in terms of fiscal audits, but they're putting this kind of social governance on them. Well, what can I say? I mean, that's just one more reason why people are moving from New York to Tennessee. Exactly.

Exactly. Well, let's talk a little bit about this August session that has been called by the governor. I call it Lee's surrender. What is in there? And do you think he's going to get this through? I mean, didn't he call a special session once before and then he didn't get what he wanted. And so my understanding was he was engaging everybody on a one-to-one basis to make sure they had the votes to do whatever he wanted so he wouldn't be embarrassed again.

So that's my question. Uh, what does that look like? What, what is on the agenda for the special session? And do you think that it's going to pass? Well, supposedly he wants a, he's got some kind of version of red flag laws, which takes away due process, and it's not going to pass. I mean, the House told him it wasn't going to pass. The Senate told him it wasn't going to pass. He wants to do it anyway.

He's setting up a dangerous situation. Now, these protesters are from out of state. See, when we have a regular session, everybody else is in session, but in August, nobody's in session. So all these crazy for me, those states can all come here and protest us. And then they, they've already announced that they're going to have armed security. Well, we've already had people announce out here in the countryside that they're going to come down and protect us.

Um, so what could possibly go wrong? out here in the countryside that they're going to come down and protect us. So what could possibly go wrong? That's one of the things that happened the week after, after I went there and, um, you know, to watch that, I thought that, uh, it was pretty amazing. I called it the Tennessee insurrection, uh, because they got much further than anybody did on January the sixth. They got their hands on legislators. They were pushing, uh, you know, they had police, state police were using themselves as bodyguards essentially. But they were getting shoved.

And they kept their cool. They didn't come after the crowd. They didn't send out anybody there with, you know, shields and body armor to engage people because that would have just escalated it uh but uh still it was um it was uh you know pretty i i thought it was uh more than what we saw really at january 6th because even though you didn't have the physical combat they were shoving legislators and they got right up there to them so i thought it was a very dangerous thing i thought it was amazing that uh these three legislators got down there and took over the floor with the bullhorn and all the rest of that stuff. I like the comment of one guy said, hey, if you've got a problem, file a bill.

That's the way this works. Well, one lawyer, you don't want lawyers in legislature, maybe one or two to ask the question, but they overthink things. They try to think too much. And we had a young lawyer down there that switched his vote on The lady from a lady legislator from Knoxville, Gloria Johnson. And so that's, uh, when, when we did, when they didn't remove her, which she probably should have been removed, then that made it look racist. But then the Northern states try to say that Tennessee's the racist.

So what I tell my Yankee friend from up in the frozen tundra, I say, Tennessee is the only state in the nation where a young black graduate, high school graduate, boy or girl, or any child in Tennessee can go to two years of tech school or two years of community college for free. Absolutely free. And the last two years, they get the Hope Scholarship, which is, you know, four or five thousand dollars toward the last two years, they get the hope scholarship, which is, you know, four or $5,000 for the last two years. So does when Tennessee sending young black children, any color, the college

for free, does that sound like a racist state where the only state in the nation that does that you can give a governor has no credit for that. I, I had my doubts when it first started. I thought, well, these kids need a little skin in the game, but it's actually, uh, it's actually working pretty good. It's not being taken advantage of the way it should. I mean, there's no reason why a high school graduate doesn't go to tech school and learn to be a plumber, heat and air, you know, whatever, diesel mechanic, or

go on to be a lawyer or talk show show host or a farmer or whatever you want to do. There's no reason. So, uh, we're definitely not a racist state. Um, but some of our Northern friends like to label us that.

Well, it is, as you point out, it is, uh, they're creating a flashpoint there and you have to ask yourself, you know, what is going on?

I saw some comments from NBC. They had, uh, a quote from, uh, Rameshhbari, the Democrat minority leader of the Senate. I guess you know who that is. He's a fine young lawyer, black lawyer from Memphis. Said, it really is starting to feel like we're on the same team with the governor. And then you had a spokesperson for Gabby Gifford's gun control organization, essentially saying the same thing.

What he's doing here is commendable. It's an act of political courage. Is it, or is it, is it, uh, is, is he trying to virtue signal to the left? I don't, you know, is it, you don't know yet exactly what the bills are or have they told the legislature? No, we don't, we don't know. One strategy we have is when he opens up the code, he will limit the special session to a certain section of the code. One strategy is we'll open up, we'll introduce bills that open up that same section.

And then we can push our bills instead of his bills. Another strategy is when we gavel the sand, we make a motion to adjourn, uh, take 66 votes or two thirds vote the first day, uh, separate majority the second and third day and go back home. I mean, there's, um, the governor could call us in, but he can't keep us there. He's not a colonial governor, right? Uh, well, right? No. Well, that's good.

That's good. Uh, so I guess, uh, so you don't know what it is and did he give you a call to talk to you to see if you. Well, he's invited me to the residence. I was going to be on vacation that day. Uh, luckily I go another day, I guess, but you know, that know, that same week, that was a terrible thing. Six people killed plus the shooter. The day before, we had six people killed in a car wreck on I-24, three kids and three adults. We had nine people killed in a helicopter crash up at Fort Campbell,

and we had 21 people killed in a tornado. Now, that weatherman didn't cause that tornado anymore than those guns caused that shooting. But you know what they'll tell you is that the SUV caused the tornado, right? Well, I think there were nine, eight people in,

in that car. I guess what it was, it was a sedan and it flipped through people out of the car and three, um, three kids and three adults were killed in the car wreck. And, and what does that show? Life's risky.

That's right. I mean, every day you get up and feel good. You just thank the good Lord that he's going to give you another day. But, uh, before this happened, the governor had in his budget,

I'll give the governor a little credit here before this happened. He had put enough money in the budget. I'll give the governor a little credit here. Before this happened, he had put enough money in the budget, I think $223 million to provide an SRO security agent for every school that doesn't have one. And about 14 million of that was for private schools. And the rest of it was by bulletproof glass and everything else we need. And so it's not like we haven't done anything 10 years ago. I passed the bill to allow the teacher to take training and be armed in the school and I allowed them to schools to hire retired law enforcement, which they can hire the fraction of what a active law enforcement and a few schools have done it, but I'm not a lot. But what we have now, talking to the sheriff the other day,

we have these magnetic locks on the school doors. And the teachers have got little thumbnail-sized magnets and put in there to keep the door open, keep it from locking. So when some kid goes to the restroom, the teacher doesn't have to get up and go open the door to let her back in. Well, same thing happened in Texas. They had an automatic locking door and well, the teachers had left it open. So what good is it for the legislature to spend all

this money on this high tech security and the locals circumvented by putting magnets in the doors or dropping the door open a little, a little area, you know, we've all, we're all in the same together and edit. The only thing that's going to stop a bad person with a gun is a good person with a gun. That's right. That's right. You can't blame the guns.

If there's more guns in this country, our people, if the guns were involved, it would all be dead, dead on. That's right our people. If the guns were involved, we'd all be dead. Dead on kilts. That's right. Yeah. Going back to your analogy of the car, I talked about the Waukesha Christmas parade where you had a guy using his SUV. It wasn't an accident. Using his SUV to target people.

He wasn't just didn't happen to just drive into a crowd. He was, you know, changing it, running it down. And so, you know, what are you supposed and so you know what are you supposed to do after that are you supposed to ban fords are you supposed to ban suvs do you ban automatic transmissions or power steering you know and that's what they do with the guns whenever something like that happens they don't look at the person and that's a big part of the problem with red flag gun laws as well it's not just if you got somebody who's a murderer, they can use their bare hands to kill somebody.

Or a hatchet. Yeah, more people kill with bare hands than with anything else, pretty much. So they could use their bare hands. The person is the problem, and we have to give due process to people. So, you know, none of this, to me, the red flag stuff is really just a non-starter. I think what you did in terms of allowing teachers who get training and that type of thing to carry guns, I think that is by far the most effective thing because that doesn't, you have somebody there who is going to be in a situation where

they're defending their own life and also the life of the kids that are there. It isn't even a situation where you've got a school officer who has to put his life at danger to save other people. That's a heroic thing. And there are a lot of people who will do that, but there's some people that have decided that they don't want to do that, like at Uvalde and, uh, at the, you know, uh, Parkman Douglas school there in Florida. Uh, so sometimes people will look at that and say, well, I

don't want to be a hero. Uh, but if you're in this classroom and you're a teacher and you know how to use that thing, that's not being a hero. That's just self preservation. I think that's the most effective way to do it. Well, you got to admire these three young police officers who were there in 14 minutes. They didn't know each other prior to this. They went in there, they'd been trained. They fell in just like they were a team and ran in there, ran to the

bullet fire and took her out and compare that to Texas and Florida. That's right. You know, my wife's a text and you're, you're living in Texas long time. You don't have these texts to brag all the time, but they did it the right way. They did. That's very heroic. What they did.

And that's what I'm saying. It is. You got three incidents here and one of one of them, they acted quickly and heroically. The other two, they didn't. And so it's very important, like you had the law that you sponsored there for teachers to take the place. You know, it also occurs to me that before this special session starts, there's going to be a lot of grief with this pistol brace rule that's been put out by the ATF. And I think that's going to really activate the gun people on that side of the issue. I know they've already put out, the left has already put out a call, as you point out,

they want people to come. I was covering the fact that they were giving sessions and telling people how to hector legislators, how to embarrass them, and putting out a call for all these activists to come. So that's going to be one side of it. But I think that the people who want to support the Second Amendment are going to be pretty upset about this pistol brace that would get in the way of the ATF or executive orders from the president, uh, doing infringement of the second amendment, like the pistol brace or like the bump stocks and things like that. I passed a bill last year. I think it was that, um, made pistol braces legal in Tennessee. So, uh, T-Rex arms of shout out for them out in west Tennessee. They make lots of holsters and braces and what they know.

So it's, uh, they're still, it's a, they're illegal federally, but in the state won't stop you from having it cause it's, we don't have to enforce federal. Good. Yeah, that's right. And that's, that's one of our best ways out on these things. We just make it legal in Tennessee and it's illegal federally. So if the feds want to take up these braces, they're going to have to come do it because our sheriff, our TBI can't do it because we made it illegal. It is legal to own one in Tennessee.

That's great. That's great. So a few years ago, we passed a bill that said no state personnel, money or energy can be used enforcing a federal gun law that is more strict than our state gun law. We kind of were proactive there. We got ahead of them a little bit. You did. Absolutely. That's great.

And, of course, that's called noncommandeering, and that's been established and supported by the Supreme Court that the feds can't come in and order local law enforcement to enforce laws that if they don't want to enforce those laws, but you made it even more forceful by shutting it down at the state level. Uh, let's talk a little bit about, uh, what's going on with, um, as now everything is, is rolling down with the masks and all that, uh, hysteria. Is there anything in Tennessee law that is going to stop the public health officials, bureaucrats from doing that kind of stuff again, or business mandates on customers or on employees?

Is there anything like that? Because I know that in the wake of, you know, we had 9-11 two months before that, they had their first germ game. They called it dark winter. And then a week after 9-11, they had before that, they had their first germ game. They called it Dark Winter. And then a week after 9-11, they had the anthrax attack. And then two months later, they put out model legislation to all the states. And a lot of them passed a lot of the different things that they wanted passed. And then they had their annual practice games for 20 years.

But what is the situation in Tennessee in terms of legislation that supports the public health officials? How did that work since I wasn't here when that was going on? We passed a bill where it's illegal for a business to ask a customer or an employee the vaccination status. Good, good, good. That's excellent. Um, you know, Dave, we've done so many good things, but the liberal press

won't report on them and we don't have any more. It's uh, well, that's why I want to get you here because I'm looking at this stuff. It's like, wait a minute. Are we going to go through all this stuff again? You guys have already taken care of it. That's great news. That's good news.

Um, let's talk a little bit about, you know, the CBDC. We understand the control that's involved with that and, um, uh, all of the ID aspects of it, how dangerous that is. But, you know, there's a lot of different ways that they can go. Uh, the way I look at it, CBDC is the one that takes us to where they want to go the fastest. It's like the direct express route. Uh, but, uh, there's other ways that they can do it through the back door. I was very concerned to see the mandate for E-Verify.

Now, E-Verify has been around for a while, and it's been voluntary. People did not have to comply with it. In Florida, DeSantis and the Republicans put it through as a mandate, and I thought they kind of got it backwards. It seems to me like you would want to stop the welfare state for people who are foreign citizens,

and here, illegally, you'd want to stop the welfare state before you'd start trying to stop them from working but it makes it makes me very concerned that we'd have to get government permission to get a job and that it would be yet another form of id another form of of tracking what we do what is the situation on e-Verify in Tennessee? Do you know? You know, I don't really know. I'm not as a... The legal immigrants, I like legal immigrants. They work, they pay taxes, go to Walmart on Saturday,

and you see them shopping, and they're spending money and are being taxed. Tennessee operates on a sales tax. We don't have an income tax. We don't have a whole income tax. So these are illegals. When they go to Walmart or when they buy a new lawnmower and a trailer and a truck come out here in Moliard, they paid sales tax on all that. So, um, uh, this, this, a little legal immigration is good, illegal, bad.

But what we've got now is not, it's, that's an invasion. What we've got now going on is an invasion. That's not immigration. And that, that, that's a terrible end of it. We, you know, we're a melting pot, but you put enough cold water and boiling water, it'll kill it all at once. You just, you can just melt so much at once.

And I'm afraid that they're overwhelming the boiling they're overwhelming the ball and pop right now. Even the people who call themselves sanctuary cities or sanctuary States, they're saying, wait a minute, stop sending us people. We can't handle that. And they're only getting a small percentage of what's coming across the border and Texas.

Uh, so it clearly is something that nobody can handle. Uh, and yet you see States like California coming out and saying, well, now we're going to give them, uh, unemployment, you know? So if coming out and saying, well, now we're going to give them unemployment. So if you come here without a job, you can collect unemployment.

That happened at the same time that Florida is saying, we're not going to let you work. That just didn't make any sense to me. I talked to a guy who is about criminal justice, and he was talking about waves of immigration and waves of crime. And he said, you know, in the late 19th century, the early 20th century, we had these big waves of immigrants coming from Europe and they were, so many of them, they were sleeping, a lot of them in the police stations because they didn't have anywhere to go. There wasn't any welfare system to help anybody. When they came here, they were going to make it on their own, work hard, and they were going to earn every penny that they had. And I don't have a problem with that. What I think is the problem is the welfare

magnet that's pulling people in. And so when you have states like California saying, we're going to give you, even though they're insolvent, we're going to give everybody unemployment, even if you're a foreign citizen. You have Illinois giving other benefits to people even though they are overspending. They're going to give all kinds of benefits to people who are foreign citizens. This is a magnet that's going to pull people in regardless of what you do at the border if you're going to have that. But to me, the work aspect of it, that is something that has been there as part of the melting pot. And so I think that, you know, you're right. We can't sustain this mass of people that are coming in here.

But we've got to understand what's pulling them in. And I think that's one of the good things. Hopefully there's not a giant welfare magnet here in Tennessee like there is in Illinois, New York, and California. That's where they're going to have the biggest problems. I think, well, Illinois and California, you have retired state employees making a half a million dollars a year, retired Illinois, you haven't making $350,000 retired. We only, we don't have any state employees making that much work, much less retired.

How they, how they think they can, uh, I, I, you know, what are they thinking? I mean, I don't know. I don't understand how they think. Well, they got saved with all the COVID cash there. They were about to go bankrupt. And then when the pandemic was rolling out, they got all this free COVID cash. And that kicked the can down the road for another couple of years.

But they went through that real quickly. And so now they're in financial straits again, but Tennessee has a, we had $70 billion invested to take care of our retirees. Of course, it's down to about 61 now, but, uh,

what's even worse is by the feds printing money with all this inflation, there's, they're bailing out Illinois in California and they're stealing the purchasing power from our retirement fund. Our retirement fund won't buy near as many bags of groceries this year as it did last year. Even though we still got $61 billion in it, that $61 billion won't buy as many bags of groceries as $61 billion would last year. So they've figured out a way to steal our savings.

That's right. Uh, it's, uh, it's, uh, Benjamin Franklin talked about inflation being a, an invisible tax and it is, they're, they're stealing our purchasing power and they're stealing the money that our retirees have earned and invested over the years by the, by this inflation. Yeah. And that's the thing that's really concerning because it looks like that could get out of control. That's one of the reasons why I know that you've been working so hard trying to open up channels for people and for the state to have gold,

which is going to be there as a hedge against that kind of inflation. And that's one of the reasons why they're out there trying to shut down any competition right now focusing on crypto. They say that we don't want to have any proof of of work uh that's there we're just gonna have essentially crypto that is a fiat uh it's gonna be proof of stake uh this is worth what it is because we say it's worth what it is so they just want to flip this over to a digital form of the fiat currency that the fed's been running on us uh and that's uh not really going to anything. It's just going to put more chains, digital chains,

and surveillance on each and every one of us. Well, you remember the old Austin Power shows, and his nemesis was Dr. Frickin' Evil. That's a long, long time ago. Well, there is a Dr. Evil in the world. I mean, there's several of them, Soros and different ones around. And they're trying to take over the world with this central bank digital currency. The fly in the ultimate is the American South and armed citizens.

Now, they can't take over until they disarm us. So that's a big push on these school shootings. There are people, I've got intelligent friends and thanks to the FBI behind some of these school shootings, grooming, room and these kids, these shooters, they get on the internet. They keep, they find a kid that's million stable. Where did this girl get all the money to buy the guns in Texas? Where'd that boy didn't have a job. Where'd he get the new pickup truck and all and five, $6,000 worth of guns all of a sudden going there and do this.

So there's Dr. Evil was trying to take over a Catholic college, Mr. Global. Yeah. And they worked together, Mr. Global and Dr. Evil. But they can't take over until they get the guns out of our hand and they subdue the American South. Well, we're not going to let that happen. We don't want to secede from the Union.

We don't want to cause any trouble. The best way to save the Union is show the Union that the South is strong. We're not going along with you. And I've said for years if america is saved it will be by the states it won't be by the feds that's right the states have to do it and america amazing thing the founding fathers gave the states everything we need to take control we just need leadership backbone and perseverance and get the job done but um that's right we can call our congressman in we can redistrict our congressman every two years.

Supreme Court said we have to redistrict them every 10 years, but we can redistrict them every two years. We can call our nine congressmen in, set them down at the Capitol, say, now listen, here's what we want you to do, and here's what we want you to not do. And by the way, here's a map of your district next year if you don't do okay. We can put nine of them in three districts and have a new set of congressmen.

And as far as the senators go, I've had this bill several times. Instead of having a primary, 17th Amendment says you have to have an election for US senators, but it doesn't address how you select your nominates. So we could let the state legislature be the caucus that nominates our US senators. The Democrats can nominate their nominee, Republicans can nominate our nominee. They run against each other in November, and that would satisfy the 17th amendment. But the fact that we nominate them, they would pay attention to the States. See, originally the Senate was supposed to be the state's house.

That's right. The house representative was a people's house. Well, now they're both houses of people's house and the States get very little respect. But if we were starting nominating our U.S. senators, I think what that would do. That's a great idea. That's a great idea because I always thought that that was, as you point out, that was there to break the power of the states.

And we need to have that kind of division. I got that bill to the Senate floor one time. Of course, I had a weak house sponsor. But I'll probably bring it back again. Oh, you should. That's a great idea. And now the average de-jerk reaction is that people say, well, you're taking away my right to vote.

I said, no, I'm giving you your Constitution back. I said, you're still going to vote. But I'm going to give you part of your Constitution back. You know, the first, up until 1913,, the states elected the state legislature, elected or us senators.

Very few people know that now because they don't teach it. But so in the last 110 years, we've let the people and how's it worked out for us? It's not that good. If you, you put our success on a graph, 1913 was a, was a turning point. I've always said when America's gone and a historian's right about what happened to America, I think 1913 will be the year that made them made the difference. We quit, we quit letting the States elect their senators. We got the federal reserve, you know, the IRS, the trust.

Yeah. That was a very unlucky year. That's right. You're absolutely right about all that stuff. Yeah, when we two wolves and a sheep, that's what we do not want to have. We want to have a republic, don't we? It is

interesting to think about how we can take power back. And of course, when we looked at the Dobbs decision of Roe v. Wade, taking that back, I had said for the longest time before the Supreme Court agreed with me, they didn't know I was saying it. But I said, you know, we ought to go back to Andrew Jackson here in Tennessee. You know, the Supreme Court had said that he could move the Cherokee, and he started moving the Cherokee. They didn't like what it looked like. And I think it was a bad policy, but they said, all right, they met within a year and said, uh, no, we take it back.

You know, we've got a new opinion and you can't do it. And he said, well, you've given me your opinion. Let's see you enforce it. And that there is a check and balance. That's the important part about that is that there's checks and balances. And so with Roe v. Wade, that was a Texas case. I've said for the longest time, I said, well, the Texas state should have said, well, the Supreme Court's made their decision about when life begins. That's kind of interesting, but it doesn't really have anything to do with us. We're going to make our laws about that. And that's essentially what the Dobb situation has done. And it raised a lot of alarms because it started pointing to the 10th Amendment. And I think that is the key thing, that states need to have the backbone to take this.

But for the most part, nobody wants to make these decisions. They want to pass it off to somebody else. And so it's a hot potato. And they would like to use it as an election issue, but they don't actually want to do anything with it. And ultimately it gets passed off to either the bureaucracy, which doesn't have to run for election or it gets passed off to the Supreme Court, which doesn't have to run for election. You know, nullification people say, well, we tried that in 1860. It didn't work.

Uh, you know, I was never a dope smoker. I was always a better highlife man myself, but I'd greatly admire the dope smokers for nullifying the federal law on marijuana. I mean, you can call it what you want. Well, they nullify it.

They said, they told the federal government, you know, you'll hold off. We're going to sell marijuana on the, on the street. And regardless of what you say, people say nullification won't work.

Nullification will work. You just have the backbone to make it work. That's right. And, and that's a great example too because it's always whenever you start talking about well we need to make some of these decisions locally it's usually the left that freaks out and then starts talking about civil war and secession all the rest of stuff and if you bring up the issue that they actually want to have which is medical marijuana or recreational marijuana even jeff sessions as much as he hated it, he never came after it because he didn't want to, he didn't want everybody to see that it had basically been a bluff that they'd been running for a long time.

Right. It is, it is bluffing. We didn't talk about that. You know, that, um, that was a rebirth of notification. Yes. You know, if I dad, we can notify other things and we just, we just need to do it. And I can say, it's kind of strange that it came from the left and all the way to the left, the dope smoking left were the ones that successfully notified federal

law, got it by those boys. They may not know that it. That's right. They don't know that they did it because they're smoking dope. We didn't tell them we did it. We got to wait until they sober up so going to explain to them what they really did. That's great. Well,

I'm glad that it's been taken care of in terms of pistol brace and things like that. It's going to have a big impact. It still is going to be something that people are going to be talking around about around the country. And I think it's going to energize people before this August special session. So hope you guys hang in there and don't let that happen because we've got a good group of people in the

Tennessee legislature. And I don't want to see them discredited by doing something that is just a bunch of virtue signaling to celebrities and leftists. You don't, you don't have to worry about the week with the house told him that the Senate told him you don't have the votes. We're not passing red flag laws. That's third world stuff in America. you listen to you proven guilty we're not going to

go there and let you be guilty and i have to go to court and prove that i'm not crazy how could i prove i'm not crazy you know i'm crazy i wouldn't be serving in the legislature i mean so automatically crazy right off the bat but um yeah it's going to be interesting you need to come's um, I felt like I was at a really busy time when you were there and I didn't have enough time to spend with you, but I'd like to show you through the capital and, um, you know, you didn't come back this day, but, um, yeah, we'll be glad to do that. Thank you. Thank you so much.

And it's always great to have you back on. We want to keep track with what's going on, but a lot of good news there about what is happening. I like the fact that you've already taken care of the non-commandeering aspect of it. You know, if you don't call it that, whatever, uh,

you guys have, have got that taken care of in terms of gun control, because it really is off the rails. Uh, it's, it's not just the con the elected representatives in Congress who were talking about infringing the second amendment, but now it's just become a bureaucratic prerogative that they've claimed. They've got, you guys have got that check.

Good to hear that. And I hope you guys, uh, hang tough on this, uh, August special session. One last little thing. We'll go. Everybody talks about the checks and balances between the legislative rights and executive rights and the judicial rights. But the ultimate check, the one that works good, you don't even think about it. The one that,

the, the, the check dental check is a second amendment when you've got an armed citizen to check on the armed government. That's the ultimate check and a system of checks and balances. And, and these civics teachers don't even mention it, but that's the ones that keeps us free.

That's one that keeps Dr. Evil from coming in all this. That's right. Uh, the South may save the world. That's right. That's right. And refusing to comply, you know, and that's one of the things that we saw. We came here in August of 2020, we had to go to North Carolina for a relative

and we came back through Tennessee and it's like, these people are not wearing the masks that is really, they're not complying with this stuff. So that means that they that they haven't been captured. I tell people that smart people took the vaccine, but the wise people didn't. That's a good way to put it. The people who have had too much education and they've been sitting in the classroom for too long, looking at somebody lecturing them at the front of the class, and they bought into that argument from authority.

That's exactly right. Well, David, my battery's about to go out, so I'm going to say goodbye and we'll do it again. All right. Thank you very much. Appreciate it, Senator Frank. Nicely in Tennessee. You've done a great job. Thank you very much. Thank you.