The David Knight Show - INTERVIEW Tony Arterburn, Another BRICS in the Wall

Episode Date: October 24, 2024

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well welcome back and we're glad to get tony on we had some problems with the zoom link that we sent to him and karen's been running back and forth doing a great job karen getting all this stuff together uh so we got tony on finally and i really didn't want to talk to tony because this has been a busy week i mean besides the stuff that's been happening with gold now for several weeks hitting all-time highs and everything, bricks is going on as well. And, of course, Tony has Wise Wolf Gold, and he has set up DavidKnight.Gold. DavidKnight.Gold. That'll take you to Wise Wolf.

He will help you to get gold or silver, small or large amounts, and he has something that is really unique. That's Wolf Pack. And you can sign up for that and decide that you want to save x amount of dollars per month he's got several different levels there starting as low as 50 a month and you can start accumulating gold and silver on a gradual regular basis and at the same time you get a group uh by the power of a group buy as part of that group he's got over a thousand people in there. Maybe it's a lot more than that now.

I don't know. But so joining us now is Tony Ardaban of wise Wolf gold. Thank you for joining us, Tony. Glad to get you. Always great to be here, David. Good to see you.

Good to see you. What's going on with bricks. I mean, this is the stars are realigning here, aren't they? There's a rebalance of power geopolitically across the globe. And as the dollar wanes bricks grows in uh in power and influence uh you see brazil russia india china

south africa now saudi arabia and other periphery nations uh meeting in russia vladimir putin is calling for a cross-border payment system to supplant the swift system that's currently dominated by the west and you know the united states really with something called the bricks bridge and again it's not about the bricks coming up with their own currency i think that's a little misleading i think it's really about what i've been saying is cross-border payment systems they're about the resetting of commodity prices especially in gold that's why you see them continually buy so much gold, breaking all these records with central banks ordering gold.

The United States is not buying gold. Canada is not buying gold. The West in general is staying out of that. And I think you're seeing all that power and influence drift towards the BRICS nations. This is going to be the trend. The dollarization continues, David. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

It's absolutely made. Of course, I saw this other thing about BRICS pay. They said they've had it around for a while, but they've tweaked that. They put out some videos about that. Also, they're moving, you know, Putin and, of course, China took the lead in all this stuff in terms of CBDC and things like that. So it's not like they are, you know, some good guys over there. It's just that you've got these different power centers that are there that are rising up and making big leaps with the BRICS nation as more and more people are coming over to them. And now they've already busted the petrodollar.

Saudi Arabia, you know, who had supported the U.S. dollar and helped to make it the reserve currency for cross-border payments for commodities and everything with the petrodollar. Now they are, everybody, you know, the Chinese and the Saudis and the Russians are accepting a payment and their native currencies are in gold. That's right. And of course, the BRICS bridge system that vladimir putin is talking about would be utilized blockchain token technology to do that and it could be backed by gold could be other commodities whatever that nation is rich in but it'd be cross-border payments and settled settled in real time just trying to get away from the western system i was

saw something that trump said uh i think this last week, and he said, if I see a country that wants to dump the dollar, I'll just call them up and tell them that I'll put 100% tariff on whatever they send into our country. And I thought about that. I'm wondering, did he not get the memo that whoever's running this country gave up, is giving up the dollar? It's a controlled demolition of the dollar. We didn't stop uh Saudis from drifting away from their 50-year agreement of the petrodollar we've weaponized the dollar it doesn't there is no wisdom and now you talk about Janet Yellen earlier saying they can close the the funding gap through through raising taxes that's insanity uh you you know you quote the I mean just looking at real time, it's not, it's no longer a trillion dollars every 90 days.

It's you, like you said, it's like $2.3 trillion. That's right. It's the amount of money that Donald Rumsfeld lost at the Pentagon every month. There's something, there's something else going on here. I don't think it's just economics or I think this is a plan that's being carried out, and the leaders of this country completely abandon it. I don't think there is any strategy here. No.

John F. Kennedy, I think he wrote a book before he got it. Sometime when I think he was in Congress. It was called Why Britain Slept, I think, and it was about appeasement and the lead up to World War II. It's very similar. It's like the sleep at the wheel is what I'm watching. There's nothing going on in the West other than just self-sabotage, but it looks to be on purpose, David, as we see just you and I i were talking off air there's something interesting going on geopolitically i don't it's not in the headlines but um saudi arabia and iran are set to hold joint military exercises in the red sea this was supposedly brokered by china wow and so the

resetting of the grand chessboard worldwide uh is going on and uh we're still playing uh i think an outdated game it's uh that's losing yeah and that's surprising because you know we all think so many people think that islam is monolithic uh but there are two different strains of islam you know the saudis are wahhabists and the iranians are the Shia or Sunni? Shia, yeah. And so, you know, that's been a part of, that's why the Arabs are fighting each other, right? Is because of these different strains of Islam. And the fact that they would bridge together and become allies over that, that is very unusual. And again, there's something, the Saudis, with the lapse of the petrodollar agreement, the 50-year agreement with the United States, the Chinese filled the gap and had proposed a petroyuan, which is supported by Russia.

These things start to make more sense to me. You know, we look at the passing of the U.S. dollar and the hegemonic dominance of U.S. military in the Middle East, and somebody that role that looks to be china and of course russia in that periphery so there's something else going on here and it has to do with our currency um and it's on the chopping block of being used and utilized and uh these other countries want away from the system especially the swift system of payment settlements yeah so that's this is um huge well weaponized by biden and what is trump's uh thing trump wants to bully everybody right you better not do this i'm gonna do you know like you said 100 tariff uh you know you build a you're going to build your factories here you're not going to be able to import your products anything that kind of thuggish intimidation

is just going to accelerate uh the uh the decline of the influence of america i think but but getting back to iran and saudi arabia uh the yemen war i thought that the uh yemen hooties weren't they supplied by iran i mean they've been fighting all this time and here it is proxy war yeah i know i mean we were backing the the house of sod in yemen and uh the iranians were backing theouthi Rebels right and I mean this is something that's been as genocide and there's uh so now what happens exactly now let's break out there with Yemen and Saudi Arabia or I mean that's crazy and of course we we oppose Iran mostly because of their ties to Russia if you go back historically you know even like the yalta

conference was held in it's iran and you know that's uh churchill stalin fdr um the big power moves that were made that's this is going back uh you know decades and decades going back to the end of world war ii the periphery and the influence of of russia in iran was massive and that's a the whole point of operation ajax and overthrowing mozadeq and all that in the uh in the 1950s the real you know the first uh overthrow that done by this the the fledgling agency that is known as the cia that was done you know in 1951 i think no it's they've got such a great track record don't they i mean oh look at the monster they created you know it's like from from mk ultra to operation ajax it's uh it's all good at the cia yeah no you're this is something that we're watching i think it's just uh it defies logic i mean we're the whole

thing's being reset old lines are being redrawn and we're again, this is sleep at the wheel. There's something up with our policy. Well, I think there is in the West, there is an active sabotage that is going on. And you can see it with energy, which includes the oil stuff and everything. But you can see it with what they're doing to our grid. You can see it with what they're doing to manufacturing and everything it's a deliberate policy of starvation of energy starvation of food moving manufacturing to china these people are traders uh that are running our countries and it's not just america it's all the western countries they have betrayed their own people and if you start talking about doing things for your

own people you if you're canadian and you start talking about helping a Canadian politician, you want to help Canadians, or an American politician wants to help Americans, or a German politician wants to help Germans. Oh, you're a fascist. You're an ultra-nationalist. These are the kind of labels that are thrown out there. But the people that we have in charge in all these different countries, they hate us. They're trying to destroy our country,

just like they were part of the depopulation uh agenda that was going through so um there's no question that's happening but then there's also the other issue and this this i guess we should maybe take some dark joy in some schadenfreude um when uh powell cut rates by an emergency 50 basis points did he expect that yields would be 50 basis points higher a month later? That's the zero-edge headline. In other words, they're pulling all these levers and all these tricks and everything to try to get things going, and a lot of the stuff that they're trying to do

is not actually working, and it's backfiring. And so that is an element of hope, I think, that these people are not capable necessarily of pulling off their schemes that are there to harm us that's right well that's that's another reason you continue to see gold hit new all-time highs and i don't i can't even track anyone i think it's like 35 times in the last uh nine months this continues yeah to break all-time highs where is it value in the marketplace i mean how do you find value in a marketplace how do you find value in a world where it may be uh the the gdp to debt may

be a parody it may have reached that where you have uh you know about 350 trillion dollars in debt worldwide maybe you know possibly 400 trillion in assets and i don't even believe that because most of that's based off of currency and fake currency and markets where, you know, you and I both know a lot of these companies aren't profitable. Wall Street is a joke compared to what it was 50 years ago. There is no sound, you know, accounting anymore of anything. This is not based off of production or not based off of profit. So who knows anymore?

I mean, the unintended consequences of lowering the interest rates 50 basis points, well, that's what it is. You don't really know. It's not, the market's asking for inflation and that's what's so unhealthy. They're asking for the cheap liquidity injection and that's what's continuing to drive the purchasing power and purchasing strength of the dollar down every time they do that.

And, yeah, there may be a short uptick in the economy, and I think that's why they did it so close to the election. You were talking about James Carville earlier in the show as you opened up the show. He's famous for saying it's the economy stupid and uh you know going off of you know the existing regime existing administration always does okay if the economy's sailing along look at you know clinton in the 90s and uh i think that's one of the reasons why they they pulled this card it's hard to tell anymore though like you know you have some great analysis on what is what are the powers that be won out of this election it's hard to tell they definitely did that. They lowered the interest rates.

It was more than most analysts thought. It was supposed to be 25. They went to 50. But the unintended consequences, because of the underlying weaknesses in our financial system, I think they didn't really see this coming. It's not exactly the smart set that runs the levers of the Federal Reserve. See, that's the thing.

When they start pushing the buttons and putting in the control rods and stuff like that, and completely opposite things happen. We had the interest rate for homes went up. So when this kind of stuff starts happening, it's like, whoa. But I just thought of something when you talked about james carville and his it's the economy stupid uh it's interesting that that was not one of his three points that he made yeah she's gonna win because look it's the economy stupid uh no it's just uh she's stupid i mean that's why i don't think it's really stupid.

I thought that the third thing there that, you know, well, I think it's going to be Lala Harris because, you know, Trump has divided everybody. I think it's going to be Trump because I think that's exactly what they want. But, you know, you were talking about the entire world economy, 400 trillion dollars, maybe all you could take. And you said, well, it's probably not that much who knows we might still be able to get the 200 trillion dollars so that we can grind up diamonds and put them in and save the world the world bank uh has lost track of 41 billion dollars handed out for climate ideologies and you're talking about how you know the the control of this stuff is nobody knows what's happening with it. They said the people who are trying to analyze this, and that's about 40% of what they've spent on climate giveaways.

And they said, we looked at this stuff and it's incredibly complicated, but it also doesn't add up. And they don't even have any way as complicated to send them this tremendous amount of information, kind of like trying to hide a needle in a haystack. Right. So they they send them a haystack of information, but then they look at it and they say, well, it's complicated as all that is. It doesn't even address 40 percent of your stuff and you don't have any answers for that. It's all just we've reached the point of such corruption and chaos, I think. And I think that's really, everybody's starting to understand that. That's why,

as you point out, we've had so many changes in gold. Where is gold today? What's happening? Let's check. Let's check in real time. You can, you can always check gold prices by going to a wolf pack dot gold.

And I have a live ticker. Let me pull that up. Let's do wolf pack dot gold. I just checked it earlier. It uh 27 let me see 27 33 71 and it got up to like 27 60 or something like that uh earlier this week i think yes silver's down just uh under 34 it's 33 dollars uh 70 cents as of this broadcast but yeah these are you know there's uh pullbacks there's profit taking the mere fact that we're in the 2700 range yeah is bizarre to me um given the fact that you know we're still we're still inching along and and i don't think a lot of the the damage has caught up to this economy yet i mean we know what went on

prior to 2020. David, you and I talked about it and the massive currency creation there in the last quarter of 2019. But really going 2020 and beyond, the debasement of the dollar, the damage that's been done, and we are still floating on that. They chose quantitative easing over real austerity and other measures to cut things and and dig into what would um you know balance something out or have any sort of lasting impact um so i'm still waiting for the reverberations to hit i don't think they have hit i don't think that we've seen uh the true impact yet of the uh

the the dollar debasement i think that will start showing up as de-dollarization continues, the loss of the petrodollar, more countries dumping the dollar, getting into gold. As we've seen too, I've mentioned before, the euro was just supplanted by gold as the second reserve asset held by central banks. It used to be gold was way down there on the bottom of the list. And now it's supplanted the the euro and what's next is the dollar i think really gold is the world's reserve currency and what these other nations like bricks are working on david is they're working on a way that these countries can have cross-border payment systems not necessarily a a a dominating currency together but just a way that they can trade amongst themselves. And of course, the gold will be the currency, I think, of the future when it comes to dealing

with the nation to nation. I don't think it'll be the dollar. I agree. And it's not going to get any better. You know, one of the reasons you got Lala and Trump is because regardless of whichever one of them is put in, it's going to continue down the same path with Lala. And Trump is maybe even going to accelerate down the same path with lala and trump is maybe even going to accelerate it by using by weaponizing and threatening people that's only going to

accelerate the trend away from the dollar as cross-border payments and things like that but we're seeing from the imf i just talked about the world bank and how it's become this massive organized theft ring uh the imf chief economist says the battle against inflation is almost won according to newsweek now this is the same newsweek that back in 1979 so we're going to be out of oil and gas by the mid 80s and everything so now newsweek is telling us that the battle against inflation is almost won that That's a scary idea, isn't it? If it's coming from them, it's probably exactly the opposite. Well, we finally beat the common cold, too, David. Well, what we've done is we beat to death the different economies.

They're talking about China's economic growth being down maybe only about 5% a year or whatever. But Germany has zero, zero economic growth. I growth i mean you know we're looking at these guys have created stagflation or as uh gerald slinty calls it dragflation and uh you know it is um and yet they're declaring victory you know china went down from 5.2 percent to 4.5 percent great uh but the eurozone is expected to only grow at 0.8%. So China is allowed to grow five times faster. And I think that the Eurozone is actually contracting because they're losing all of their ability to manufacture anything. That's right.

China has such an advantage in terms of energy costs. There's no way they can ever compete with them. That's going to be a bigger factor even than the slave labor and the currency manipulation and the piracy and all these things that have been part of the China price. Now we've got energy that is going to be five to ten times cheaper than everybody else is using. It's crazy. Well, I think it really, you hit the nail on the head. It all comes down to production. You have a productive economy. Of course, in the Asian sector, you hit the nail on the head. It all comes down to production. You have a productive economy.

Of course, in the Asian sector, there's places like China, they make things, they produce things, and that requires energy. And there's labor. And of course, there's resources. It creates a different type of economy. It's what the United States was built on. It was manufacturing and production. We were the manufacturing marvel of mankind and also known as the arsenal of democracy. You can look at the history of what we used to supply, what we used to produce, what we used to export.

And that all stopped in the early 70s as soon as we went off the gold standard, started running trade deficits. We never ran a trade surplus again. I think that history will show that that was on purpose, that things were shifted away from this hemisphere, away from the United States, away from the West to, again, set up what we're looking at right now in this 21st century, which is a China dominated, Asian dominating economic system run through places like the World the world economic forum and bank of international settlements the globalist system because they use the chinese model as you point out all the time you have to get away from the united states with its pesky constitution its bill of rights and its you know history of western civilization and rule of law property rights all those things you got to get away from that and i think that's what's happening. We're literally being there's a controlled demolition happening.

Not only it happened is first starting in our manufacturing and then it's going into our currency, which I think will be the final thing that will take the United States from being a world's dominating superpower. That's the that's the commercial that the World Economic Forum ran, by the way, in 2016. That's how it started. It said, imagine a world where the United States is no longer the world's lone superpower. It's an interesting proposition and question. And if you look at the United States spending seven times more than the other like three or four countries combined underneath like that it's arrivals on military budget how would it lose that status well it would lose the status um by losing the world's reserve currency and financial

domination that we've had and it looks like everything that you know we're looking at is this is accelerated yeah well like you you said, how did we win? Well, we won because we were the arsenal of democracy, because we had a vibrant economy. We could outproduce the other side. We could outproduce weapons when it came to that. And so after World War II, we had organizations, first the Bilderberg Group, which met at the site of the last victory of nazi germany on the 10th year and it was on the 10th anniversary of that last victory put together by people who were instrumental in making sure that the allies lost there and they turned it to economics they realized that it was

the economic foundation that was a path to global domination same thing with the world economic forum as you point out with with Klaus Schwab. You know, we're going to transcend with economics. We, on the other hand, after World War II, we decided that we are going to dominate the world by building weapons instead of building our economy. So, you know, they learned from us and we got the wrong lesson from them. We brought over the uh operation paperclip i think we brought over not only the uh the people who were involved in uh biometric crime biological crimes and chemical warfare and things like that we also brought over uh their geopolitical ideas and and

made that the foundation of our country instead of the way that we were set up before but as we look at this moving out it's it's really we're seeing yet another bank failure this is first national bank of lindsey i don't think it was associated with lindsey graham but who knows you know all wars are bankers wars so uh i would imagine that lindsey graham's got to be somewhere connected to some kind of a bank anyway but this is another one that has gone belly up and of course fdic insured but it's just a another example of what i think is is going to be happening quite a bit there's no um uh specifics about this they just said they shut them down because of false and deceptive records i think we're going to see an avalanche of this stuff after the election

and i guess a word of caution to people would be make sure that you don't um have too much money records. I think we're going to see an avalanche of this stuff after the election. And I guess a word of caution to people would be make sure that you don't have too much money in the banks. And even if you've got gold and silver, you might not want to have it in the bank deposit box. No, I would recommend never having gold and silver in a safety deposit box in a bank because it's controlled by the FDIC and other federal regulatory agencies. And if you get into any sort of trouble, I just caution against it. There can be liens that you don't know about.

There can be judgments passed against you, and then that box can be seized. That's too much risk. If you're going to do something and go into the private sector, there's a lot better options than using your bank. Look at that place in L.A. or something where the FBI went in and they said, well, there's a couple of places here that I think they were dealing with illegal drugs, so we're going to seize everybody's boxes. A lot of people legitimately had gold and silver and things like that. They just took everything from everybody.

No, it's terrifying. I mean, to think about it, you really got to do some research. We use, I mean, for the IRAs, we use some very reputable storage places like IDS and other things that are with Dillon Gage at the trading floor in Dallas and then all over the country. But there's, you know, Miles Franklin, Andy Sheckman, those are people to talk to about storage. I don't do that.

I don't offer that. I think that's a other realm that uh i'm actually just too busy for so i'm not i don't think i could take on any more projects right now no but you're absolutely right on the bank failures and being exposed that way um and it will be after the election i think um regardless of who wins um a lot of things that were put on pause as to not affect outcome or to see what was going to happen like this. A lot of the things that were kept in stasis, I think, will be brought out post-election. So that's when you really got to pay attention here, and especially going into first quarter 2025. So much is on the table they were halfway through this decade and you and i both know that the uh the goal here agenda 2030 this is the milestone and uh yeah 2020 opened up with a bang

um you know with the uh assassination of salamani uh by trump the hashtag was world war three i remember because i was hosting your show and uh i thought wow, this, we're just going to open this decade right up here with, you know, no holds barred. This is right out of the gate. And of course, right after that, we had COVID-1984 and the lockdowns. And I mean, all of that, it came afterwards. So we've been on a steady pace for agenda 2030, make no mistake about it. So that they will ramp back up after the election.

It will, and regardless of who wins. I don't understand how the MAGA people excused Trump going to Davos January 20th of 2020, and then within a couple of months, he locks the entire country down. And within 10 days, his HHS secretary declares a global health emergency when nobody has died right so i mean you know anybody else they would have said look at that he's you know he's doing what davos wants him to do uh but for him he gets a pass it's amazing this is the article that i was talking about in terms of the acceleration the u.s national debt adds 500 billion dollars in accrued interest in just three weeks as net interest costs are 882 billion so i mean you look at this and it's just a straight up it went vertical in terms

of um uh what it added so it's it's truly amazing and and the ability to even be able to service this debt and of course any in anything that you got in a bank account janet yellen artificial intelligence and 80 000 irs agents are going to be sniffing around to confiscate everything it's just amazing to me to see what's going to be happening in the next couple of years so i i think everything's accelerated they're going to use their fiscal shortfalls as an excuse to go after people. And they won't go after the uber-rich. They're going to go after the middle class. And this is a calling to make sure that there's going to be two classes in the country, the haves and the have-nots. It works best in the communist system. That's their playbook.

It'll be, I think, something that Bill Cooper talked bill cooper talked about is a one world totalitarian socialist government that's what they want um it's it's it's plain to see that's um that's their politics and um that's their goals and they've told you what their goals are so yeah it'll start the things that they'll go after decentral is they'll go after whatever's decentralized they'll go after the smaller things and um i don't think they're necessarily going to be successful either david i think um there's a lot of people that are on to this that are moving away from centralized systems they're just not they're skeptical of the financial system that's wonderful i think crypto's done a great job educating people on that um cryptoo, in my opinion, is really being tested right now. You know, Bitcoin's being tested.

Is it an asset that you want to keep in times of uncertainty? That's an open question. I like Bitcoin. I buy some every day. But as we move closer into the 2030 agenda, more and more I look at precious metals and say, well, I'm glad I've got, you know, I've got, this is a gold coin. This is 1848 this is still money this is a british sovereign from 1848

that i'm holding in my hand i've had on my desk um it's worth about six hundred dollars or maybe more right now um and then that's you know get been money for you know uh a very long time and uh so it will continue to be money um for the rest of history as long as there's human beings so i i think there's something that uh is uh very uh you know as far as smart to be outside of the system uh when it comes to uh the digitized world and the things they're bringing in and the economic uncertainty having something outside of counterparty risk um and so i'm precious metals first and crypto second yeah yeah and they have no have no answer for how they're going to get to fiscal sovereignty right um or sanity you know as janet yellen's only answer is we're going to squeeze people harder

with the irs uh when you look at, they add $500 billion in just three weeks. So that's a half a trillion dollars. That means that they're now going at the pace, if they keep this up, that that pace is two and a half trillion for every 100 days. They're accelerating this insanity. It's bad enough that we're doing a trillion dollars every 100 days. Now this is at the pace of going two and a half trillion every 100 days. And the only answer is to ramp up the IRS?

This is kind of like I was talking about the national sale, about property tax. And, you know, the response of Doug Burgum up in North Dakota, well, you know, we're just going to take it somewhere else. There's no idea that they could ever reduce anything that the government's doing or that they could even do it more efficiently. No, we'll just have to grab more taxes from somewhere else. These people are never going to fundamentally change. That's why we need to start looking at getting out of this system parallel measures.

And I think certainly the best things you can do financially parallel is to get into gold and silver. And it's a hedge not just with all the crazy geopolitics and the crazy resetting of the financial system globally, but also because their intention is to surveil and to control everything that we do through CBDC. So that's still comes, that has not changed in my opinion. I think that is the key reason to start accumulating gold and silver is because of CBDCsc's and and even russia's talking about doing that you know china took the forefront of that uh everybody is going to be doing that so that's where you need to get outside of that system i think yeah just because bricks is opposing the

united states western system of uh of economic dominance doesn't mean they're good yeah it doesn't you know it doesn't it doesn't mean like stalin. Yeah. It doesn't, you know, it doesn't, it doesn't mean they're the good guy. Like Stalin or Hitler, right? Just because the enemy, my enemy is not necessarily my friend. They might be a co-belligerent for a short period of time, but they're not our friend,

you know? And for the record, I don't impose the dollar system if it's done right. You know, I think it could be, you know, a stable payment. So I think the way it was set up after breton woods uh was fundamentally sound until

we started debasing our currency in the 1960s and taking the silver out and uh you know running the the vietnam war the guns and butter and all that stuff i think that's yeah that's what really uh made it unsound of course going off the gold standard but i think americans uh are better off now that they can own gold uh yeah you know 1974 1974, Gerald Ford made it legal for you to own gold with his executive order, which has been great. So be your own bank. And necessarily these governments are going to continue to do what they do, which is they're going to take a currency. They're going to use it to they're going to inflate their way out of any issue that they have, whether it's the welfare warfare state. It's going to debase the purchasing power.

That's just what they do. It's going to be unlimited. So you ought to have something that is outside of that system and that is finite. And that's either something like gold, silver, or Bitcoin. Tell us a little bit about what's going on at WiseWolf now. How is the Wolf pick going on? There's a lot of volatility with that.

How is that? There's so much, but we had to take it down. Uh, there was so much volatility. The price is just whipsawing and then the price is going up and, uh, we're trying to, so it's just temporarily down because what had happened is we're trying to do it with no fees, uh, with no credit card fees. So you have to do the payment through our checking system and just lining that up with people's picks on that it was just harder so i'm gonna have to find a way to do it in real time

so we're working on that that's just something we learned from the first round of it that we couldn't do it in the way that with these prices they're not stable they're continuing to they could go down for some profit taking and then you just see a lurch forward uh and that is making it very difficult like just to stay ahead of that and i've been doing this for uh the wolf pack uh memberships itself like just finding finding the product now is getting harder and finding the smaller product is getting harder the fractionalized stuff we will do it i think this is a this is an excellent challenge for me i enjoy the challenge but uh we've made all the wolf pack

members our priority so anything going on in wise wolf that all goes into wolf pack first so um it's been an interesting time staying ahead of these prices and this is the new normal by the way you always said it was gonna it was gonna take off like this and the problem was gonna be finding product while we're there now well the most the most bullish people were saying $2,700, maybe January, February of 2025 or something like that. And it's already kicking off. I think we're going to be in for a wild ride, and it's going to be very difficult to get.

That's going to be a challenge to get that stuff through there, I think. Yeah, I think definitely 2025, definitely 2025 3 000 gold easy uh and i think that's just uh based off of the the strength the dollar strength uh waning uh more than anything and central bank gold buying continues to out outpace yeah there's there's that it's not slowing down and that's only like a 10 increase from where it is right now yeah i said only you know that's a that's a good thing 10 but you know in terms of uh what we've seen over the last year so and nothing has fundamentally changed in spite of what newsweek says or the imf chief economist it's really changed it's only getting worse

uh so you got a program gerald ford's campaign you know is going to whip inflation now that you should sell those buttons that's probably that that metal right there is probably worth something in terms of satire you know uh you can't whip inflation with fake currency that's right you can't do it you've got to have stable sound money to whip inflation and they're not going to be able to do it with fiat that's right that's right well tell us uh you got uh your program is going to be immediately following this one today? Is that correct? Oh, yes, sir.

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Good news. Oh, I'm sure it will be. It's always interesting. You always do a great job. And thank you so much for joining us. Thank you for supporting the program. Thank you very much, Tony. Appreciate it.

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