The David Knight Show - INTERVIEW Unable to Evacuate — Now What Do You Do?

Episode Date: October 8, 2024

People without fuel to escape the path of the storm and concerned that even if they have fuel they may get stuck on the road.  Now what?Jack Lawson, CivilDefenseManual.com, answers questions about  natural disasters, looting, and understanding you — and your community — are on your ownFind out more about the show and where you can watch it at TheDavidKnightShow.comIf you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-showOr you can send a donation throughMail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @[e-mail] App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Money should have intrinsic value AND transactional privacy: Go to DavidKnight.gold for great deals on physical gold/silverFor 10% off Gerald Celente's prescient Trends Journal, go to TrendsJournal.com and enter the code KNIGHTBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.

is jack lawson civil defense manual.com i want to get jack on because this is right down his alley this is what he's been warning people about telling people how they need to prepare look we don't know what form is going to come but you know it can be a natural disaster it can be a man-made disaster it can be a geoengineered it can be a war that they provoke or a war that somebody else does, a terrorist, whatever. Still going to be the same basic things that you have to prepare for. And that's why he wrote Civil Defense Manual. You can find this at civildefensemanual.com. Two volumes.

He's got it in paper because, as we've seen, your power is going to go down. Your Internet is going to go down. You need to be able to have access to this stuff. But you can go to CivilDefenseManual.com. You can see, as I was just saying, his chapters on water. He's got some other ones on some other issues, like if you survive a nuclear blast, what do you do afterwards to prepare? So there's some free chapters. You can see how thorough this is.

But again, I wanted to get Jack on to talk about this because we've been talking about this kind of possibility for quite some time. Thank you for joining us, Jack. I'm always happy to be on your show, David. Thank you. Well, tell us from your position what you think about how this stuff is rolling out. I was just saying the number one thing that everybody needs is water they said ironically that there's no drinkable water and the government's not getting that stuff in there to them uh but give us your take on this

and and um you know as you're as you're watching this from a distance oh it goes back decades five decades ago there was a damn break i I think it was in Wyoming or Idaho. And by the time FEMA started coming in, the locals had gotten together with their churches and had taken care of everything. They literally did not need them. That was a prophecy. It is worse now because they are more and more involved with the complexities of

technology yeah that don't function and for an organization that's supposed to have been uh the recipient of the uh uh of civil defense in the united states you can see what their capability is they can't tie their own shoes oh yeah i'm furious to see uh them talk about we're doing all we can do yet they gave i just read something this morning 750 million dollars given to north or south carolina can't remember what it was for uh illegals this this is this is beyond madness but well they just held this last week you got biden saying yeah we're gonna do another couple of billion dollars to uh ukraine i think it was and then la la says 150 million to lebanon and uh you know and missiles for everybody everybody kill each other come on let's go i mean these people are just insane they want death they want chaos they want it everywhere i got a listener uh do not obey said uh they're giving 894 dollars per household i mean i heard

750 but maybe they bit it up a little bit they're really you really going to forge? You know, I'm understanding that's a loan against property. If you have property. Oh, okay. That's right. Yeah. $857 million for Lebanon. They should make a bumper sticker for all these Congress people.

Got missiles? Question mark. Well, you know, it's interesting. You're talking about that. Well, Hey,

we'll give you $894 per household. What an insult that is. And yet, you know, they's interesting. You're talking about that. Well, hey, we'll give you $894 per household. What an insult that is. And yet, you know, they may use that as a loan, as a lien against your property. Folks, the $35 trillion there, that's a lien against your property. That deficit that's there, that's a big lien against your property. And they're working on how they can enforce that with a great taking. And so that's all of this stuff that comes back down to that. They'll take the 401, all the retirement people have got.

Well, you owe us the money. Yeah. Oh yeah. It's, it's beyond stupid. I don't think, uh, an 80 year old child would show the responsibility level that these people in FEMA are showing. Everybody can criticize, but i can tell you

one thing they'll be very uh there'll be a very loud silence if anything happens like i predicted in my book in a blog uh not that i'm the great swami and i grab my head and I've got an epiphany coming, you know, I'm seeing the lighter, I'm a prophet or anything like that. The, uh, the simple thing is to read history. Yeah.

If you think your government's going to help you, he apparently failed history class. You know, it's, it's, it's terrible. Uh, what,

what happened in the present-day Ukraine, the Soviets did literally the same thing. They ratcheted it up because of the farm landowners there, and they wanted to get rid of them. Somewhere between 2.5 and 12. half million people were literally starved to death they surrounded the whole area they went in took all livestock destroyed everyone's garden and they literally starved people to death now that is not this but it's not far from it oh no and as this is happening we got the epi covered earlier jack

the epa has got a whole new set of rules and they're going to use that to start shutting down poultry and meat processing plants they are slow motion doing a holomador to us as we talk i mean they first they come after the cars they come after appliances they come after the cars, they come after appliances, they come after the electric grid. You know, this last year they started putting emission standards on power stations and shutting them down. Now they're going to start shutting down food plants after they've had this phony bird flu pandemic that they're addressing. And when you look at what is happening in the UK they and under the pretense of bird flu they're having everybody register all of their chickens and all all of their birds i mean even if you got one pet bird they've defined now a flock equals one bird and if you got a single bird you got to register

with it and they want to uh they've got the world economic Forum is funding research to tell everybody that homegrown food is one of our major sources of unicorn farts. And we've got to shut that down. It is rolling across everything the government is doing. It's designed to take away our food supply, our mobility, our prosperity. It's all about austerity and slavery. It's just amazing to watch this kind of in slow motion, iteratively rolling out. David, you know, I think the average person,

I feel like I'm preaching to the choir all the time. There's a guy put a very interesting article. There's four points to it. And this is what people do in their denial reasoning. Now, maybe the people listening to you are going to do something. But the vast number of Americans, they usually have something like this going through their head. A, it won't happen.

Whatever it is, anything like this hurricane, anything like power outages, roads destroyed, whole areas destroyed. Or B, it's going to happen, but not to me. And that's, I've been in the middle of this stuff. I've seen this. So I know what it's like to be in the middle of it. And that has a big impact on you. C, it's going to happen to me, but it won't be all that bad.

Now, there's probabilities in all of these. But the last one, D, is it happened to me, but there was nothing I could have done about it anyway. Now that's a defeatist attitude. In my opinion, uh, people, people need to understand and they're understanding it in that area.

All of those areas of Appalachia, they're understanding right now that the first thing they need to do is have water. That's right. Water. right now that the first thing they need to do is have water that's right water you can get along for three weeks without food possibly but three days four days depending on how much you're exerting yourself without water you got a real problem now the people think oh well it's raining cats and dogs around there that's not potableable water. That's not safe to drink.

And once people consume that, they're going to find out very quickly what I say in the book. You're going to go from feeling okay to the worst case of flu, upset stomach you've ever had. So water is important. Food's important. But people seem to deny that this stuff can happen to i am convinced that the worst enemy we have in the united states is our very own present

government yeah i i've said that all week that's why they thanks why they took me down on vimeo because i've been saying this all this week yeah yeah this is uh there's more of that coming too yeah you know it's it's unfortunate they need to get rid of three-fourths of this bureaucracy it's just absolutely all they've got they've got this finger that is bent that is used to holding coffee cups they do nothing i see it in my local level where i live and it's it's uh it's very frustrating but that's people i'll tell you who is uh i had a guy that we've been we've been uh talking uh to him and i think he's got a sub site now his name is handy and he's a ems and he was showing up pictures of the job offerings 8 100 a week and he said they're sitting around on standby in a hotel room right now

earning 8 100 a week it's just just like money and money it all comes from us that's right it's very very unfortunate that people look at this as being something that can't happen to them i guarantee you uh people in those areas now know what is a common thing that goes on in the prepper. It's a common statement. You are on your own. That's right. And you are on your own.

That's right. So you need to take care of your family and yourself and, uh, and your neighbors. And again, you know, this is another example of what you talk about in your book, how you need to have a community because,, you know, you could have had, even the people, this couple that was stranded, a helicopter pilot came in,

was going to take them, you know, one at a time, because that's all he could do. And then the fire chief pulls rank on him, says, I'm going to get you arrested if you go back there. Left the husband back. But they were talking about it after some volunteers from Michigan went down and rescued him at great risk to him uh dragging him across the uh river that was raging with all kinds of debris in it because that guy wouldn't allow the helicopter to go get him

uh but um he said you know we were up high and we're watching all this stuff happen and we didn't think it was going to get to us but what happened was the house, that they had a high elevation, and it was not even in the path of the flood and everything. But there's so much rain that it slid down the hill. The house slid down the hill. And so that was it. So this type of thing could happen to people. Even if you build your house up high on the hill, it can have a tree fall on it. It can slide down.

In that particular case, you need to have neighbors that you know that are going to be able to help you. And everybody needs to be prepping for this type of thing. And so let me just throw this out to you and see if you've got any ideas. Because I don't have any ideas of what I would say to this woman. As we're looking at this new hurricane that is headed towards tampa she put this up she said i live in sarasota which is in the direct path of hurricane milton they're evacuating my town but there is no gas left to evacuate and traffic is so bad that it could be more dangerous to try to evacuate at this point in other words might get stuck we're seeing gridlock with people trying to get out of

that area so she said so what would you do if you were me now i guess we could back up and we say well there's some things that she could have done in preparation but i don't know at this point uh you got any idea you know what she could do i really don't when i look at it it's it's a that's a difficult thing to answer i i'm not a hurricane expert i i knew guys when i was in the service that would tell about buying a case of beer and riding around a convertible when their hurricane party whatever whatever craziness that led to but uh it it's i grew up in florida we'd always we would just kind of laugh it off for the most part because so many times uh the uh the weather people hype it up way

worse than it is and then it became a thing you know when fema came around in 1978 it started to get to the point where a lot of people looked at this and said well uh i could evacuate but i know what fema is going to do after i leave my property they won't let me back in and so i'm gonna stay here and just board it up and try to write it out. I, yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's actually caused people to make some bad decisions, I think, because of their bureaucracy. I do have, I did talk to a friend of mine who lives down there and he gave me pointers on it. I do have a section in the book on, uh, people think it's all for, uh,

uh, a doom and gloom apocalyptic situation it's not I've got common issues that people can deal with one of which is hurricane I'm no expert on it I don't know exactly what it is but I talked to Matt Bracken who's another author and I asked him about what what do I put in this thing and he basically told me and so I have in the book I have situations on the first thing you do turn your natural gas off throw the breakers off there are situations that can happen if you don't do these things that can blow your house to smithereens even though you got a raging wind outside yeah and uh basically preparations for getting like this lady needs to do getting together in an interior room and hunkering down

yep get all the food get all the potable water potable being drinkable safe water get it in five gallon buckets if you have to bring a bucket in uh for a toilet and get into an interior room and stay away from glass windows yeah and this stuff is in there it's common sense stuff but people forget this stuff when it gets to be an emergency but a lot of people wouldn't think about turning off the natural gas and turning off the electricity. That's really important. And that's what I mean. That's the value of your book. It's very, very thorough in terms of talking about that. I mean, we never did any of that stuff when I was in Florida.

But our preparation would be putting up boards over windows and filling up the bathtub with water. So we'd have something that we could drink and clean the bathtub, of course, and then fill it up with water. But we'd have something that, you know, we could drink and clean the bathtub, of course, and then fill it up with water, but, you know, that type of thing. And so, you know, but that's even more important, turning off the power, turning off the natural gas. Yeah, I've been, I'm from Minnesota. I don't know what you said later, early on, but somebody got really ticked off about minnesota it's saying they weren't all liberal well they aren't all liberal that's my birth state however uh they've let this get totally out of control yeah and they don't uh they can't go criticizing other people too much

because i know firsthand what goes on that state but, but the bottom line is Minnesota is tornado country, and I've been through a mini hurricane, which is a tornado. I didn't shut gas off, and I did throw our electric off, but it was literally shaking the building that I was with, and that was a mile away, and it destroyed crops uh i farmed at that time and i had a soybean field that got flattened and uh so so i'm somewhat used to what a freaky situation in nature causes but that lady needs to get together with her neighbors. If she hasn't done it, uh, now,

you know, Hey, uh, if you can walk outside, go door to door and talk to your neighbors. Yeah. People need to, that's right. Food store water.

And as I advocate in the book, get together and organize your neighborhood. You have nobody coming to help you. Period. End of story. Yeah. That woman who just wrote in this thing and she's in sarasota that's another good piece of advice i mean if she's going to have

to stick it out because she doesn't have the gasket out she's worried that she's going to get stuck on the road uh go over and talk to your neighbors you know maybe they've got some ideas maybe they got something they can help but at least they need to know that you're in that house it's not vacant and you know that they're in that house so that you can get each other's back in case a tree falls on one of the houses or something like that. You know, that's a very important piece of advice for them to think about that. But again, you know, not to go through this stuff alone. And that's one of the key things you really emphasize in Civil Defense Manual is to know your neighbors and to have each other's backs for things like this because you never know you know which house a tree is going to fall on for example you know

well i also advocate uh i've got a chapter in my book written by one of the foremost uh authorities on radio communications that i've been able to find there's a ford observer in the army uh quite the character ford observer in afghanistan out by his lonesome with a set of binoculars and a radio and uh you know being a in a reconnaissance unit and i advocate that people set a radio network up radios are cheap you can buy bal f radios, which are functional for this purpose. They're not the best, but have a radio network. While a storm is raging, it's not going to interrupt your radios unless you're talking through a repeater.

Baofeng radios are probably good up to a half a mile for sure depending on the terrain but get a radio network together and talk to your neighbors i'm astounded that people in florida don't all have neighborhood radio groups yeah we have them where i live uh we've got, uh, I've got one group, 58 people got another group of, uh, 17 people and, uh, we do a radio check in and we do some talking on the radio. So if something happens, we get hold of each other and the long and shorter thing is you got some, if nothing else, it's a psychological thing that somebody else is right next to you or around you that's right you know and and this is what people people done this for centuries they may

be not even like the person you know they're talking to in the house next door who knows but the point being this is when everybody's in a dire situation. All the personality differences usually go to the side. That's right. You know, and each person, unless they're a psychopath, each person is interested in helping the other person. That's right. I don't think they're psychopaths down there. I think they all moved to Washington, D.C.

And they're coming back down in the FEMA group. The greatest concentration of psychopaths in the world right there yeah i was blown away i had read something about somebody recorded a meeting fema was having they were talking about these areas and they said well we should help the lbg xyz people i just played that clip because they've been struggling all their life well oh yeah i know i just played the point to where this is it's so ludicrous it's it's it's unbelievable somebody even brings something like that up you know i had people out there hurting how many people are missing david oh i don't know they found uh 260 some odd bodies but they were saying a couple of

days ago there were more than 600 people still missing they said they're finding bodies and pieces of bodies in the trees somebody we know from the raleigh area of north carolina is there as part of a tree removal uh service actually we knew his parents and he's talking about how they're cutting down trees he said finding a lot of body parts and trees that they're cutting oh my god it's just that's really terrible really awful but you know biden says everything's okay he said everybody's really happy uh about what's going they don't need any more money uh it's ukraine that needs more money it's israel that needs more money but you know when you're talking ridiculous yeah yeah when you when you talk about this stuff and you talk about the um that's treasonous you know one of the politicians brought this up this is literally treason that's right it is they seem to think

everything outside this country is important the forever wars and people don't have to talk to me and say uh you know don't uh you don't like war yeah i don't like war i've seen thousands of bodies and i've seen the parts from them yeah So anybody who wants to wave the flag around, go through what I've gone through first, and then you can wave the flag around and tell me all about it. But I have to tell you this. Africa, they do a similar type of thing. There's a lot of tribes.

When the colonists divided up Africa into countries, they divided by mountain ranges they divided by rivers uh they divided by uh different deserts and stuff like different types of terrain they did not divide by tribes so consequently you'll have a tribe like the mashana tribe will be in mozambique and the next door country zimbabwe and in Mozambique they may be a very very much of a minority and you can have the Zulu tribes over there and what they will do is surround an area and literally starve the people to death I have been into an area like that I saw the dead and dying almost all of them were dead and it had been surrounded and

they're surrounded by military people who are from the tribe that is in power now you have a similar parallel i believe coming to this country because you have what they call the red and the blue people in this country that if you're Christian traditional, believe in the constitution, white, most likely, and that's moving into the Hispanic too. Uh, you're,

you're a target. And when you have a government that is basing what they're going to do for the welfare of the people on what your political affiliation is you got a problem now they're doing this already uh it's been going on for a long time using voter rolls uh this comes from a friend of mine in my special forces chapter he worked for department of homeland security uh 15 years ago he saw this stuff going on uh he quit and got out of it he just got to the point to where he didn't want to be involved in this anymore but uh there's always somebody that's uh thinks they're a heavy hitter and a tough guy that wants to run roughshod over everybody and oh yeah and that's a lot of what i think uh

these agencies are and unfortunately i'd like to say like i used to believe that i think the vast majority of people in bureaucracy want to do something good, I don't know that anymore after what I'm hearing about and reading about. But FEMA's action is down there. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It just continues to degrade. They become more and more isolated, living in their own little world, and just contemptible of everything on the outside.

You were talking earlier about the radio stuff. And I remember when we were in austin we got to be good friends with a guy who's retired marine and he'd organized his entire neighborhood everybody had radios and so they would have that there you know like a better than a neighborhood watch thing or something right instead of well i think i see something calling the police and waiting for them to come no you got your neighbors there and uh and he was training them doing the kind of stuff that you talk about in civil defense manual and he told us he said so we thought this thing through he said um you know we got one road in to this neighborhood off of a fairly busy road

and so he's concerned about that really busy road and he said things get really bad where he got plans about how i'm going to take that tree down and block access to this neighborhood you know i mean they'd really thought about how he's yeah it sounds ridiculous but he's a hundred percent spot on that's right here's here's one thing i know from all the military training i've been through and all the tactical training is once people get within your defenses, you've got a problem. In other words, you cannot defend your house alone. You need to keep them out of your area.

You need to blockade the road. If there's an extreme emergency like this hurricane, put some vehicles out there, block the road. They're going to get damaged anyway, whatever you got because of the storm and flying debris, but block the road off and try to keep these people that do stay behind from coming and kicking your door down. Yeah.

And that's what's going to happen when they don't have water. And after a period of time when they don't have food, uh, I, I will tell you this, that the radio system is probably one of the most critical things. It's one of the most critical tools you're going to have. And it's one of the best tools to develop neighborhood cohesiveness. But this guy talking about dropping the tree down a hundred percent. Yeah. A hundred percent.

Right. Now let's talk a little bit about looters because this is starting to become a problem i mean look at it you look at the vast amount of destruction that is there and you say well i can't imagine that anybody would come from the outside but they did arrest um over it was at least eight uh illegal aliens who had gone into the area um that were looting but a lot of this looting might be from people just trying to scavenge for something uh you know talk a little bit about that you know the problem of looters because that is something that is uh they're going to be faced with when you have this kind of

massive disaster as i say in the civil defense manual in most catastrophic situations, which is what I use the term to describe things like a hurricane, for instance, or breakdown in, uh, the power grid, whatever it is, I describe these as catastrophic situations. If you have a catastrophic situation,

the first danger to people is going to come by vehicle you're most likely going to have people i'm not saying the illegals are driving around a vehicle but you're going to have plenty of people other than them and that's probably one that eighth that they caught is probably one percent of these people uh and i base that on this i come from a color crane box family i don't really judge people by the shape of their eyes or color of their skin. I either like them or don't like them. I like in my family.

The only exception I make is I don't like the communist in my family. You know, they, they, uh, whatever color they are, whether they're red or whatever. Right.

And it's a, yeah, a couple of couple of them are in Minnesota, by the way. So, you know, I feel sorry for the guy that took the insult, but there's a lot of good people in Minnesota. Well, yeah, and I said that when I talked about it. There's good people in California and Washington State and Oregon, you know,

and they're the ones who are really tuned into this more than people. You know, a lot of people who live in a conservative state will kind of go to sleep with this kind of stuff and that's how you wind up with that kind of a situation but if you're an area where the predominant political power and the zeitgeist and everything is far to the left it really does wake you up uh but it still means that it's a it's a problem for you that means you you've got to fight it you can't just bury your head in the sand that's right and think it's going to go away. It's not going away. It grows exponentially every year because nobody's there to argue with this idiocy that these people propose.

Going back to the looters, you've got to keep them out of the neighborhood. And one of the ways they're going to come is by vehicle. People are going to be driving by vehicle. That's the biggest danger most people have uh in our area here uh we have three streets that we need to block off and we're prepared to do it uh it'll take a catastrophic situation to the point to where what i call a level three i'd give different levels and what you should do in the book, level one, level two, and level three. Level three is a high alert when you've got a disaster, when law enforcement and

fire department, not just law enforcement, people think about that. One of the biggest dangers is when you have a catastrophic situation is the fire hazard that goes on not only from people in their house burning things to try to keep warm or doing whatever trying to cook with a a flame fire inside but you also have uh catastrophic situations where uh people have to you have to address the level to the response of the fire department and law enforcement but looters uh i would just tell you this i would i don't want to take life but i would probably uh have them certainly understand that theirs is in danger if they come back into this area yeah i'm not a policeman i will be a policeman i will be my neighborhood guardian and people got to understand something you're not forming a militia that is a misnomer that's being used militias have certain tactical aspects that

when you're guarding your neighborhood you are not not that. That's right. One of which is. And if you start using that label, they're going to weaponize that term. They're going to be putting a target on yourself. Yeah. That's not the biggest reason. A militia by its nature is highly mobile and it's offensive. It can be more of using offensive tactics than it's using defensive tactics. I have what I call an area tactical proactive defense.

That proactive being this is blockade your area off, guard your area, keep people out. That's the, the, so, you know, the, the little old lady, right? Two doors down from me. She's not going to be able to defend herself. She's going to get her door kicked in. If there's nobody keeping these people out of the neighborhood. Yeah. So, so the looters and the lady that's worried about where do I go?

I haven't gotten a gas. They need to hunker down, but they need to get together with their neighbors. And if she's listening right now, she needs to brave the storm and go next door and see if people are home. Absolutely. And that's the key is people getting together. It's always what I call strength in numbers in the book. I give a definition of it. Definitions mean nothing.

We've been doing this for thousands of years. We've been organizing in cities, and they put walls up around them. Why did they do that? They did it to keep the marauders out. If it was somebody outside their clan, they didn't want those people in there. It wasn't just a walled-in area where they had commerce. It was a place that they could protect themselves. Absolutely. And, you know, in a situation, if she gets to know her neighbors, area where they had commerce it was a place that they could protect themselves absolutely and you

know in a situation if she gets to know her neighbors and they know that she's there whatever something happens to her even if her neighbors cannot help her they can at least get help you know so somebody knows that she's there so that's that's very wise advice as a matter of fact uh i got a listener here t-dub 97401 i just ordered a copy of the civil defense manual been meaning to do it for a while thank you david for making me aware of this valuable resource. It is very valuable. I've had other people write me after they picked it. One guy said, it's worth 10 times what I paid for it. And it is very impressive the amount of information that's there. And if you go to the site and you see the sample chapters that he's got there, especially the one on water. That's your number one thing.

It's the number one thing people are looking at here in this disaster. If you look at what he's got, that gives you an idea. If you look at that water chapter, it gives you an idea of just how thorough the information is on the rest of these topics. This is also from Maguan Fan. It says, my friend is part of the community emergency response team in malibu started from the fire department first aid cpr grew into ham radio communications procurement securing and distributing emergency so yeah that's an important thing by the way high boost said and i was going

to mention this too when you're talking about that, uh, DeSantis, uh, as this new hurricane is coming in, he got up and he said that you shoot, you loot, we shoot. Uh, so governor DeSantis is saying the same thing. And he's saying, look, uh, the law supports that here in Florida, uh, self-defense and a defense against looting. That's very important. Yeah. Before there were people, uh, i explain a lot of this in the book it gives them a basis what's your police department the police departments in areas used to be composed of individual citizens and they'd take turns and they'd take a shift for two hours

and they'd walk around with their lantern and a stick whatever they used to defend themselves and it wasn't just against criminality it was against fire and i get into the fire aspect in this book too it's critically critically important i mean what good is it for you to have a shotgun and two boxes of shotgun shells if your house your house is burning down around you you know but the point being this before they became public they were police departments that were citizen run then they hired the watchmen the night watchmen but there was one aspect if people read history there's one aspect that they looked at actually two arsonists and uh looters those two people literally in france you could shoot those people if you could prove they were looting or

prove they were arsonists and nobody doing anything to you it was absolutely like self-defense now that's not the way things are now you know i mean uh yeah if that was there'd be a lot of dead people in france if they were shooting the arsonists because they're burning churches up left and right but of course they don't have guns anymore i guess they've taken those i was there in 1971 i was astounded i walked into a 40th goods store and they had fully automatic the m16 had just come out and they just done a modification to it they had fully they had about four of them sitting in iraq fully automatic m16s now they've gone from that to uh if you're in the military and you

retire from the military the police can't do this. They can't carry a firearm, but if you're retired military, you can carry a firearm around. That's a, it's just very strange laws they've got there. Wow. But generally you can't have a gun like you say. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, of course that, uh, not letting the police have a gun off duty.

That was what the Heller case in, uh, was Washington, DC. They wouldn't let this guy who's a police officer when he's off duty in washington dc where the crime is pretty bad he couldn't carry a firearm and they they established they tried to pretend that it was not an individual right but of course um uh what do they say it's uh 15 to 20 people a day killed by farms in the United States. What about the 219 people that die every day from overdoses of drugs? You know, I mean, they, they need to get the priorities, right. But that's never what liberals do. And case in point, the Appalachian issue, FEMA. Oh yeah.

They haven't got their ducks in a row for sure. Yeah, that's right. And they're focused on other things. You know, they're't got their uh ducks in a row for sure yeah that's right and they're focused on other things you know they're focused on uh not just the the dei but also um you know assisting people to come in and invade the country one person said where are all the free flights for philidians to get out of harm's way why can we fly illegals across the country, but we can't fly out those who are in the path of Milton? Why is that? Rhetorical question. I laughed. I saw a cartoon.

If anybody knows what the big twin rotor CH-47 helicopter is, it'll carry about, I think, about 30 troops. And they show people holding a sign up, please help. We need aid on the roof this is all like uh characters of a cartoon and they're holding the sign up and their clothes are ragged please help we need aid so this helicopter's flying over so then it backs up drops the ramp in the back and all these illegals come out under their roof of their house you know yeah that's that's fema for you well you know as you were talking about when you grew up in minnesota uh tornadoes are the big issue up there i know even though i grew up in florida uh the worst devastation that we had was not from a hurricane

in tampa it was from a tornado a tornado that hit our house. And it truly was amazing. And so these types of natural disasters are going to vary. It will surprise people. I mean, you know, living in Florida, we always thought we were going to have some massive disaster like that. It was going to be a hurricane. It was a tornado. It's like, wait a minute. I don't live in Kansas.

We're not in Dorothy. We're not in Kansas anymore. I mean, we're in Tampa. What's a tornado doing here? But you never know what's going to happen. And that's why your book is really broad in terms of a lot of different scenarios. But there's a lot of commonality in a lot of these things as well. And the stuff we've been talking about with a neighbor and basic preparation for water, a lot of those things are going to cover a lot of different bases for a lot of different scenarios. It's really mistitled the book

it says civil defense manual i came up with that because we really don't have any civil defense in this country that's right uh everybody else has dug in uh the russians the chinese the north koreans the swiss uh they've spent trillions of dollars on elaborate survival facilities and we have done the opposite with the exception i think they've probably put a couple of uh taj mahal's underneath the white house yeah uh there's there's been a lot of digging and whatnot nobody really knows but like greenbrier hotel there in virginia was another one yes yeah yes yes uh i i think that uh uh though i should have really put a name of the preparedness manual because i have recipes in there uh for food i have a lot of information on storing i would just like

people to go to my website and read some of this stuff don't buy a book if you don't want to but read the part on water and prepare yourself that way there there's i have so much in this book though that it's the a to z of a preparation and survival i mean it gets into stuff that I've been involved with that when I was in a commando unit in Africa, it gets into how to survive a gun battle. Yeah, I have stuff. I was taught by British SAS and an Israeli commando instructor. What the British SAS guys couldn't conceive of for cruelty. Israeli commando instructor did and uh i went through

some horrendous training uh there was like 66 of us started and 17 of us got got through the thing and i was one of the older guys but the point being this there's information on how to use a firearm you can't learn it just out of a book but the things i put in that book you're not going to find much of on the internet because these are uh these are these are situations they're little things that make the difference between you living and surviving well you know you said that you started it with civil defense manual because you knew that we're not preparing you know russia prepares and plans for their people, but not in the U.S. And it reminds me, Jack, there was years ago, I can't remember the name of the book,

it was something like Red Rock, but the subtitle was The Plan for Government to Protect Itself and Let the Rest of Us Die. And that has always been the case going back to the 1960s and the Mutual Assured Destruction or the Cuban Missile Crisis. They never prepare for us they never have any plans to help us and that's what we can see with this hurricane actually in 1976 uh jimmy carter ended the civil defense uh it was done away with at that point god only knows why they would do something like this because look what we'd have

in appalachia if they had every church had water in the basement every church had survival food in the basement there wouldn't be any issues until some of these issues that are going on yeah you know uh i mean i feel so sorry for those people because you talk about being in a high house that goes down into the water. I saw a picture of a house way up in the hillside, and it was ready to go into the water. So where you were wasn't really an importance. But if we had a civil defense system in this, we don't, because FEMA's case in point. There are no civil defense system. Civil defense system comes and helps people.

That's right. Or it prepares people to help themselves. And that's what I try to do through the book. And it's a huge amount of information. But people go to my website, www.civildefensemanual.com, and there's a lot of free stuff I put on there I put it on there so people can get some basics I can't store food for them and I can't store water from them but using the information that's free there they can they can do this themselves well there's a tremendous amount of wisdom there and we can all see the wisdom in preparing.

A lot of people got blindsided with the stuff that happened in 2020, the supply chain, all the rest of the stuff. Now we see, I think, the good thing about this, the silver lining in this, is that this is the best documented case of FEMA failure. And that's something that's been going on for decades, but we've not seen it this well documented. Thank you so much for joining us. Jack Lawson, CivilDefenseManual.com A wealth of wisdom. Thank you, sir. Let me tell you the David Knight show

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