The David Knight Show - INTERVIEW Wall Street, the Nazis, and the Crimes of the Deep State

Episode Date: June 18, 2024

Follow the money! Author David Hughes joins to talk about his research into the financial power behind the global governance/agenda today — the financial equivalent to Operation Paperclip, except most of these players were involved before the war ended, involved in bringing Nazis to power.His book, "Wall Street, the Nazis, and the Crimes of the Deep State" (available at skyhorsepublishing.com if you don't want to feed the beast or anywhere books are sold)Find out more about the show and where you can watch it at TheDavidKnightShow.comIf you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-showOr you can send a donation throughMail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @[e-mail] App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Money should have intrinsic value AND transactional privacy: Go to DavidKnight.gold for great deals on physical gold/silverFor 10% off Gerald Celente's prescient Trends Journal, go to TrendsJournal.com and enter the code KNIGHTBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.

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there will be an end to the rule of law and a rise of everyday mass murder and eugenics. So says the author of this new book here wall street the nazis and the crimes of the deep state this is written by david hughes and david hughes as a introduction as a senior lecturer of international relations at the university of lincoln in the uk he has received his undergraduate master's degree from ox University, holds doctorates in German studies from Duke University and International Relations from Oxford Brookes University. Most importantly, I think, for our audience here is that his research focuses on psychological warfare, 9-11, COVID-19, the deep state, technocracy, global class relations, and the resurgent totalitarianism. I think

his background is very relevant to the times that we live in. I've been talking about Gesundheit Führers and medical martial law for the last four years. So it's great to have you join us. Thank you for joining us, David Hughes. Thank you. It's a pleasure to be with you. Thank you. And again, when I look at all this and the financing of the nazis the very first thing that comes to my mind is the bush family their connections to brown brothers harriman and the financing of the nazis in the early i haven't seen your book so i'm just kind of uh gonna throw some things out there and see where your position is on this and what your take is on this right well i mean there's there are so many of these families, not just the Harriemans and the Bushes, but the DuPonts and the Rockefellers and others. In terms of the Harriemans-Bush connection,

it runs quite deep. So for example, they were involved in something called the Hamburg America Line, which was owned by W. Avril Harriemann. And this was an initiative which was intended to provide free passage to Germany, Nazi Germany, for US journalists that were willing to write favourably about Hitler's rise to power. And in return, they'd bring fascist sympathisers in the other direction. So that's kind of how it got started. The president of the Harriman & Co. company was George Herbert Walker. His son-in-law was Prescott Bush, who of course was the father and grandfather of two future US presidents.

They were members, Bush and Roland Harriman were both members of the Skull & Bones Secret Society, which probably tells you a lot. They were also directors of the union banking corporation which had connections through a dutch bank to the nazi industrialist fritz tissen who financed hitler up until 1938 both the the Union Banking Corporation and the Hamburg America line were seized by the US government in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act. And one final connection for now

that I'll point out is their involvement with what was called the Silesian American Corporation, which was also seized in 1942 under that act. But this was a company which had extensive dealings in the region where the Auschwitz concentration camp was first set up. So it wasn't originally an extermination camp. It was set up primarily as a profit center for Wall Street,

to quote John Loftus. So, I mean, it goes even deeper than that, but as an introduction to the kind of Bush and Harriman connection, straight away your viewers and listeners will see that there's quite a lot in there. Oh, absolutely. And, of course, you know, the financing is everything, isn't it? Especially as I look at this, you know, I mean,

the Nazis were all defeated and they're all gone, right? I mean, you don't have to worry about any of that stuff. If they were going to enforce trading with the enemies, I guess probably most of these politicians would be put in jail now today. But they all seem to be trading with the enemy. When you look at the amount of money that is given in our elections, it's absolutely amazing to see how it has gone up exponentially. And so that tells us, as H.L. Meakin said, that an election is an advanced auction of stolen goods. But it's something far more than that, I think. It seems to me when I look at it, and I'd like to get your take on it. When we look at things like Bilderberg, we look at Klaus Schwab and the World Economic Forum.

It seems to me that these people, you still have this group of elitist people, some of them even speaking in deep German accents, who want to rule the world. But it seems like, at least for the time being, they focused on doing that by pulling economic strings. And that's what really piqued my interest in your book in terms of talking about Wall Street, because I see Wall Street as being kind of the central bank for these different corporations where they can operate almost uh endlessly with access to money how do you see do you see the connections any connections with bilderberg and with um world economic forum and that kind of approach what do you think about that? I certainly do. I think it's chapter four

or chapter five of the book deals with failures of denazification and the continuing involvement at very high levels of society of former Nazis. So you might have expected after 1945 that high ranking Nazis would not be able to get such positions. Unfortunately, we see them resuming life within a matter of years or even months in some cases. In West Germany, for example, as leading industrialists, we see them on the international stage assuming roles in NATO, the EU, of course, the Bilderberg Group, as you mentioned. In terms of the World Economic Forum set up by Klaus Schwab in 1971, Schwab's father, Eugen Schwab, was a leading industrialist in Nazi Germany, and he was given special

permission by Hitler to use slave labor. So these are the kinds of figures that we're dealing with. There is a direct lineage here that can be traced, and therefore it's quite troubling that somebody like Schwab has the kind of influence that he has today. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So many people now are familiar with Operation Paperclip, where we had scientists who had been involved in torturing and killing humans. Hey, if they've got some useful knowledge,

let's put them in charge of our biowarfare program. Or if they've been launching V2 rockets at the UK, let's put them in charge of our rocket program here. But maybe this is kind of maybe instead of operation paperclip maybe we should call it operation ticker tape uh we give them their financing you know this is this is the nazi pot of gold i guess that everybody's wondering where did they put all their gold i guess maybe wall street i don't know yeah well i mean the question of nazi gold is another very very interesting one and i get into that also in the book um for example the role of the vatican in helping to to to launder some of that the bank

for international settlements is particularly significant and what a remarkable entity this is while yeah these nations were at war during world war i, the Bank for International Settlements, which was led by an American at the time, had senior British financiers on the board, but predominantly the board members were Nazis. It just continued business seamlessly throughout the war. Now those Nazi board members of the Bank for International Settlements were directly involved with, for example, the looting of gold from the mouths of Jews. You know, the sources of the gold that the Nazis got were really very, very, very dark.

And the Bank for International Settlements had a key role in helping to move that gold. And again, this was all done with the knowledge and the consent of leading Anglo-American financiers who also sat on the board. Yeah, truly is amazing. Of course, I guess, you know, as they say, all, all wars are bankers wars. And so these guys, even though they set up, set us up as a war with each other, uh, they're at peace with each other, competing, I guess, for money, but not in terms of killing each other like they have us engaged in that. As you look at this, what other constructs, you mentioned maybe other families, of course, everybody's familiar with the Rockefellers and many others. Are there some other names in there that people would be less familiar with?

Oh, well, I mean, I think the most significant names are the ones that people would be familiar with. So Ford, for example, in producing vehicles not only for the U.S. Army, but also for the Wehrmacht. Playing both sides, essentially, purely for profit. No national allegiance whatsoever. Or if you take the Rockefeller Standard Oil Company producing tetraethyl lead, without which the planes of the Luftwaffe could not have flown. Or the role of the Rockefeller Chase Bank in helping to provide finance to the Nazi operations, particularly in France. The role of General Motors and the DuPont family, who not only sponsored

kind of fascist thug organisations at home to attack workers and workers' plants to stop them from organising, but again were deeply involved with the financing of Hitler and the Nazis. And when you look back at this history, what's so shocking about it is that Hitler couldn't have come to power without this money. The Nazi war machine could not have been built back up again in the 1930s without the kind of support that was being provided by these leading industrialists and financiers in the United States also with support from Britain and it would not have been possible to go to war and prolong the war in the way that it was so when you really understand your history you see that it's anything but a simple kind of us versus them, kind of Anglo-American goodies versus Nazi baddies.

It's anything but that. What you actually see from a class perspective is that you have a transnational ruling class here, which is actually very keen to promote totalitarianism. It wasn't just Nazi Germany. The Soviet Union was also being financed by Wall Street, for example, in terms of the electrification. And even at home in the United States, we mustn't forget the business plot, so-called, of 1933, which was again funded and organized by leading industrialists and financiers with a view to instituting fascism in the United States.

And it was only because of General Smedley Butler, the intended leader of that plot, that that actually failed. So when we go back some nine decades, we can see very clearly that we're dealing with a ruling class which has long favoured totalitarianism as a most efficient and brutal way of crushing working class resistance. And just as these initiatives were being promoted in the 1930s in response to a major crisis of capitalism following the Wall Street crash, so today, I argue in the book, since 2020, we are witnessing an attempt to create a global form of totalitarianism uh different in form because it's it's it's bio-digital it's technocratic now but the the logic is uh essentially the same um and it's not it's not accidental it's it's all

being done by design so the book essentially charts the continuities between 1930s nazi germany and the political economy of the west since 2020 um and points in the latter chapters to where that might lead uh if this attempted global technocratic coup is not put down yes yes it truly is amazing um yeah i seem to have heard somewhere that the love of money is the root of all evil. That certainly seems to be exhibited here. And it's the same multinational corporations that you mentioned that were involved on both sides of World War II. They are now even more powerful, more in control, and we have the new rise of the technocrats. I think it's interesting, you know, when we talk about fascism, people have different definitions of what they think that means. And, you know, when you look at, I know George Gilder has talked about the technocrats in Silicon Valley and everything, he calls them neo-Marxists.

And the reason he says that is because they're focusing on, as part of this enslavement, using universal basic income and taking everything from us, as they are fond of saying. And Bloomberg, when he was running for president, said, we're going to, the smart ones of us, we've had the agricultural society, we moved to the industrial revolution. Now the smart ones of us are taking everybody's jobs. We just need to figure out how we're going to keep them from coming after us.

The guillotines, that's what he said. And so they're looking at universal basic income. What Gilder said was he said, you know, Marx looked at this and the industrial revolution. He thought we have infinite capacity for manufacturing material goods. We just need to redistribute it. Gilder says these guys, these neo-Marxists, for manufacturing material goods. We just need to redistribute it. Gilder says these guys, these neo-Marxists, believe that with their new technologies of genetics, robotics,

artificial intelligence, nanotech, that they have infinite capability. They aren't so necessarily interested in redistributing it. They want to keep it all, but they want to redistribute enough of it to pacify us. So how do you see this? People argue Marxism. People argue fascism. Seems to be elementsute enough of it to pacify us. So how do you see this? People argue Marxism. People argue fascism. Seems to be elements of both of those involved. How would you define fascism?

Well, the standard definition of fascism has to do with the merger of corporations and the state. I agree. Which we are seeing very much in evidence. There are debates about how useful a term it still is today. So there's a British author, very good, I'd recommend him, Simon Elmer, who has written books about resurgent fascism since 2020. He thinks it's just as useful today as a term as it was 90, 100 years ago. I've avoided using that term in my own work just because I don't want to conflate the two

because the previous version was very much bound up with a kind of form of ultra-nationalism, often forms of kind of racism and xenophobia and so on. And the kind of totalitarianism that we're witnessing today on a global scale is somewhat different to that. So I prefer to go with the term global technocracy because I think it's more accurate. Now, just to come back to so-called neo-Marxism, I personally would object in the strongest possible terms to that terminology, simply because it drives me up the wall when people refer to the World Economic Forum, for example, as a Marxist

or a neo-Marxist organisation. It couldn't be further from being that. Marxism is about the emancipation of the working class. Its entire ethos is oriented towards the working class and promoting the interests of the working class against capitalist oppression by the ruling class. The World Economic Forum is the exact opposite. It's a mechanism for advancing the interests of transnational capitalism

against the working class. So I think that Marxism is one of the most important, but most misunderstood terms, ideologies, concepts, whatever you want to call it, in the present era. It's essential to have a sound understanding of classical Marxism. And I think that almost nobody does in today's era. Firstly, because the Cold War and hostility to Marxism on ideological grounds, but also five decades of neoliberalism has been extremely hostile to Marxist thinking. And what we find now is that when the term Marxism is used, it's used in a grossly inaccurate way. And it's often

used as a term of abuse. So for example, conservative commentators like to talk about cultural Marxism, as though there's anything about that that Marx or Engels would ever have recognized, or the kind of myths that Marxism automatically leads to Stalinism, which conveniently ignores the whole history of the Fourth International. So, yeah, I mean, without wanting to ramble, I do think it's essential to understand Marxism in order to be able to get a handle on what I call the global class war, which was initiated in an undeclared fashion in 2020. And it's important to understand that there are so many misreadings

and misunderstandings of Marxism out there that I hope that your viewers and listeners won't be taken in by the kind of very cheap use of terms like neo-Marxism. Well, I agree. When we look at it, the labels are very confusing. You know, we think of the Chinese Communist Party, and yet I look at them and they look to me to be fascist, because there is that merger of business and government. You know, you have to be a member of the government in order to own the business. And they, you know, they, but what I see mainly is the rhetoric. It seems to me like the rhetoric of Marxism and the Brotherhood and everything.

As we've seen in the past over and over again, these Marxist intentions have turned into totalitarianism. So I think the most accurate way to speak of all this stuff is as totalitarianism which is what you talk about and and I think that the fact that they seek to own everything you know we've seen that under Stalinism as well as we had so Zinn it's and talk about how difficult you know was it if they if they employ you if they own your home and that type of thing if they disagree with you you're cancelled you're out on the street and so we see those elements of it i think that's what brings and people talking about uh you know i guess i would say functional communism where uh they own everything and they own you and they can punish you and shut you down and and it's but both of these approaches

it seems to me run towards a totalitarian society where everything is controlled by a handful of people, and they are ruthless in terms of removing people's freedom to do anything and everything. I think that is really the common ground is totalitarianism, which is the way you frame it, I believe. It is, and again, there are many parallels here with what took place in Nazi Germany. The promotion of big business and kind of large industry, an attack on the working classes and on the middle classes, all of this was witnessed in Nazi Germany. And we saw it again quite strongly in 2020. The biggest businesses were allowed to stay open. Many small and medium enterprises

were left to go to the wall. And there was... As Trump said, you're non-essential. I said all throughout that, I said, what's worse, being deplorable or being non-essential? I can't tell the difference really. I think that's exactly what that term was intended to do um so what we saw was a reported global wealth transfer of an estimated 3.3 trillion dollars from the middle class and the working class to the upper class. And so these mega corporations like Amazon and Google and so on became even richer than they already were. And everybody else has been left to struggle.

And of course, with the inflation that we've seen in the last couple of years as well, it's got even harder for the ordinary man and woman to survive day to day. So this is most certainly a class war that is taking place here. And these kinds of economic mechanisms are being used to punish ordinary people, but also to make sure that they are weakened and in a position where they will struggle to resist this drive towards totalitarianism, which, as you rightly say, amounts to total social control. And in the case of China, which you mentioned, Ian Davis describes China as the world's first technate, i.e. the first concrete example of a state which actually manifests technocracy

as a political regime. So when we're thinking about the social credit scoring and the surveillance and all of the rest of it, the awful kind of Shanghai lockdowns of the drones ominously going past windows, beaming out, control your soul's desire for freedom, really dystopian stuff. But it's a reality and it seems to me now that, this I've drawn from Patrick Wood's work, that the aim is to expand that technocratic model which has been instituted in China across the West now. So this is all about the controlled demolition of liberal democracy and the institution of a novel global form of totalitarianism, which is technocracy. Yes. And I've said for the longest time that China was the beta test site for the technocracy.

They rolled out their traffic light system and everything in just a couple of years before we got it rolled out everywhere. And let me ask you about that. One of the things I've said over and over again about this is the fact that if you look at every single country during the 2020 pandemic stuff, the lockdown, if you look at every single country, it doesn't matter what political party, what politician, it doesn't matter what their stated philosophy is. They could be a hard left, hard right. They could be a libertarian philosophy it doesn't really

matter they all did the same thing in lockstep uh is that not a tell is that not do we already have global governance uh even though they haven't set up a castle somewhere yet well it's it's it it's emerging isn't it um i mean there's a difference between global governance and global government or world government. And that's ultimately what they're pushing towards because it's hierarchical, it's centralized, and it can work in that manner. Sorry, what was the first part of the question?

There was something I wanted to say there. I was just talking about how all of the different politicians were kind of in lockstep with each other. Oh yes, that was it. Yes, thank you. Yeah, that's right. Regardless of country or philosophy or party or whatever. Yeah.

Yeah, and that's a really important consideration. That is a big tell, as you say. And the title of my book, Wall Street, the Nazis and the Crimes of the Deep State, the deep state is a really fundamental concept here. And I think and I argue that this is an actually existing entity that you can trace all the way back to the late 1940s, at least and maybe earlier in terms of the Office of Strategic Services in the World War II. The forerunner of the CIA.

The forerunner of the CIA. And what you find in that late 1940s period are a soup of alphabet agencies all coming together. And, for example, with the formation of NATO, it was only revealed decades later in 1990 that NATO had been running in Italy what was called Operation Gladio. Yes. And that it had left these so-called stay-behind armies, not just in Italy, but actually throughout Europe and also in Turkey at the end of World War II. And these armies were then used to, in the case of Italy, commit false flag terrorism in the 1970s and 1980s, which was a model which was subsequently expanded through the post 9-11 global terror wars. So the more of this evidence that comes to light, the more it seems to me that there has in fact been a hidden power structure, that there is in fact an apparatus which is operating

at a higher level than democracy behind the scenes. The way it works is essentially through veto power. Normal political life and democracy is allowed to continue for as long as it's convenient. But every now and again, there are these key moments where this transnational deep state intervenes because it wants to change things. So 9-11 is a classic instance of that. And the whole paradigm of rule changes thereafter with the war on terror. The COVID lockdowns were another classic example of that as we move into the biosecurity paradigm and what was so interesting to me about those lockdowns from a uk perspective is who authorized them or who declared them who decreed them

because all of our senior politicians and scientists and so on right up until the day of the lockdown uh were saying that they were not in favor of such a thing and then all of a sudden bam there it was and that to me looks like a classic instance of one of these kind of veto moments where somebody has told even the british prime minister this is what you're going to do now, and you have to go along with this. So the fact that all of these governments were able to do this in lockstep in 2020, to me, is evidence, if not proof, that there is a transnational deep state. It's probably global at this point, and it has effective control over the world's governments, over the issues that really matter. I agree. I agree.

Absolutely. And over the politicians that are going to be able to choose from Tweedledee or Tweedledum, they've got control over them as well. It's absolutely amazing to see this. It is, if it wasn't so evil, you could admire the genius of this and the long-term strategy of it. i see you know you talk about 911 you talk about covet i see covet as being the other shooter drop from 911 because it was two months before 9 11 that they had the first one of these germ game simulations

dark winter one week later anthrax and then they put out the model legislation to get around our 10th amendment and then when trump did the executive and then they practiced it another 20 years of germ game stuff fauci there at the beginning cia right there wolsey was playing the role of president and all this kind of stuff former cia and then um you know this this whole thing rolls out fauci is is a part of that and uh you know it doesn't matter uh you can have the guy that is billed as mr anti-gGlobalist, but he runs. They get him to run the whole thing for them. It's absolutely amazing to watch this all play out.

It is. And in my previous book titled COVID-19 Psychological Operations and the War for Technocracy, I actually get into, for example, Operation Dark Winter there that you cite from June 2001 and some of the other pandemic preparedness planning exercises. And the case that I make in that book is actually the preparations for 2020 as a psychological operation, a form of psychological warfare, date back at least two decades and possibly longer. And we also see around that time the first big push towards bio-nano technology from around the year 2000.

And there seems to be quite strong evidence now that we are in fact entering into what back then in 2000 they called the IT bio-nano era. And in various military intelligence documents that I analyze, they were projecting two decades ago dates, including 2020, 2025, and 2030. So there appears to have been an enormous amount of planning behind the scene. As I argue in that book, the level of complexity and sheer malice, in fact, behind the psychological operation in 2020 was such that it must have taken many years to put it together.

Nothing was accidental. All of it was deliberate, and it was a war against humanity. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Fauci famously said in October ofober of 2019 you know somebody asked him at the milken institute how do we get everybody in the world to take an untested vaccine he says well we do it with disruption we do it from the inside and we do it iteratively and we've seen

this roll out and and that was i think another tell the fact that they would um you know roll this thing out and everybody would be doing the same thing, but they would say, well, this is emergency, but in two months, we're going to do the next step. And it didn't matter if it was the U S or if it was France, or if it was Canada, they did the next step a couple months down the road. I've got to get you on to talk about the psychological operations of COVID-19 to talk about that book as well, but let's not get too far off of the nazis um you know when when you look at again the global governance the economic aspect of it um where would you say how far along are we now you mentioned the the date 2025 i've long talked about uh the importance of 2030 to them

they started talking about smart cities 2030 and all the rest of this stuff back i think in 2015 prior to that we had uh you Agenda 21 and things like that. But it seems like that's a real target date for them. What do you hear about 2025? Oh, well, that was, I mean, firstly, it featured in, for example, a NASA document from 2001, which seems to be seminal in terms of laying out some of the agendas that we're facing today. Also, if you remember back in 2020, I think it was March or April 2020, the World Bank issued major funding for a COVID-related project whose termination date was 2025. So there are two things kind of right off the bat there

that you can connect there. In terms of 2030, I personally think there's a kind of somewhat of a spellcasting going on there. Almost, you know, if you encamp these dates enough and enough and enough, it kind of starts to lead people to believe that they have the power to do this but you already mentioned agenda 21 that's 21 has been and gone by now so they like putting these dates out there but i don't think that we should um imagine that they necessarily hold the kind of power uh that i'm sure our would-be overlords would like to have well let's talk a little bit

about our would-be overlords and um uh you know it's uh as you point out it's the technocracy and um they have the same kind of uh absolute disregard for everybody i mean it is you know when we look at uh the nazis they were the master race and everything i guess the master race today are the billionaires and everybody else really, really matters. I've talked to people in the past about artificial intelligence. Hugo de Garis wrote a book called Artilect War. And he was, you know,

his idea was that artificial intelligence was going to become self-aware that Terminator scenario, which he thought was a possibility i've never really bought into that but i did agree with his take of of the technocratic elite and their contempt for the rest of us and his idea that as we uh as we awakened to what their real plans were for us that there'd be a massive pushback and he believed that they would use their amazing technology uh to for this small elite to go to war with the rest of us is that something that you see on the horizon yeah and i think it's happening already um yeah i think again it's possible to join all of those dots so um with two co-authors daniel brody and lissa johnson um i've just

published a four-part series on transhumanism um in propaganda in focus so you can find that by going to propaganda in focus.com and um we're very interested in in transhumanism uh because it seems to us that when you read the relevant military intelligence documents over a long period of time, that transhumanism has kind of been sold to us as something a bit kind of sci-fi, a bit out there, a bit kooky, a bit geeky, something that we maybe shouldn't take too seriously the kind of futurist aspirations of Ray Kurzweil and the singularity and all of this kind of thing

and I think you're right, I think a lot of it is nonsense however, coming back to the very kind of predatory and psychopathic and extremely nasty dimension to this predator class that we are dealing with here, what we argue in the series is that that kind of innocent image, if you like, of transhumanism, they often talk in terms of human augmentation. The very term augmentation is positive. it's supposedly about making us better they sell it in terms of you know being able to help with disabilities and so on or perhaps helping to to cure diseases like cancer or parkinson's or or alzheimer's actually when you look closely at the military intelligence literature, what this looks like very much to us

is a pretext for merging human beings and technology in a way that is not in fact designed to promote the cause of human freedom or human health, as potentially some of these technologies could be um but actually it looks more about uh a means of enslavement potentially and again in the previous book i i get into some of this so you know when you are talking about uh let's take charles lieber and his syringe injectable neural nets uh that he successfully injected via a syringe into a mouse in 2019, the year before COVID. So we know that such technologies are a reality. It doesn't require a wild leap of the imagination to think that they could inject via a syringe

nanotechnologies which can cross the blood-brain barrier, self-assemble, create neural nets, create other things within the body that can be used to surveil or control a person from the inside out. Klaus Schwab openly talks about being able to, or at least the desire, or the technological project to be able to read people's brains directly. James Giordano, the neuroscience advisor to the Pentagon, he talked openly in, I think, 2017, 2018. He said the brain will be the battlescape of the 21st century.

So this is a senior military figure saying this. So once we understand that it's a global class war that we're in, that humanity has been framed as the enemy, and that the primary site of the battle will be the brain and neurotechnology, then when you start piecing all of this together it looks like a a project for global totalitarian control which is beyond the wildest dreams of hitler or stalin and which if implemented could potentially be irreversible so it's it's truly frightening what we're facing here yeah i i say all the time i said our big mistake is as normal people uh we um as george

bush would say misunderestimate the uh the the the evil of these serial killers and mass murderers and we also um do the same with their technology we just can't imagine how advanced their technology is and how evil their intentions and i think that's the key thing we can get a glimpse of it occasionally as we see yuval harari uh you know talking in the world economic forum i mean his contempt for mankind is you cut it with a knife. It's just amazing how thick it is. And they absolutely despise humanity. And eventually, once in a while, they start monologuing like a supervillain in a superhero movie about what they want to do. It's absolutely insane what they want to do. do and i think back you know in terms of this kind of these comic book villains you know the

the origins of a lot of what was done with um uh the red skull and and with uh captain america and stuff it goes back to actually something that's part of operation paperclip uh where the germans said they were trying to revive people that had frozen as they were shot down over the english channel sometimes you get there and it'd be just a little bit too late. They could have saved them, maybe if we can revive them. So they started experimenting on humans and killing humans and seeing if they could bring them back in certain ways. They had a little bit of success after about 10 or 20 minutes or something like that. So that was one of the key things that the Allies wanted. And so when you look at this, you know, we're supposed to be the fair haired good guys and yet operation paperclip,

uh, one of the really, I guess how, how people found out about it because this was leaked by a good guy in the U S army. And he said, did you realize, uh, you know, what was going on with this stuff? And, and we're giving these guys a pass because we want their technology. So immediately at that point in time, there was a mindset even within the American government that not just the Nazis, but within the American government, that they wanted to use that kind of technology

to be able to reanimate dead bodies and things like that. There's been this undercurrent of evil on both sides throughout this whole thing. What do you think, as you look at this going ahead i mean what is what is our best defense against this um war against the brain war against the mind is it um information is that why they're so interested in shutting everything down what do we do i personally think that the it has to start with the role of conscience. I'm glad that you bring evil up openly.

It's a category which was widely disregarded, I think, in the 20th century. Yes. But this is, in fact, what we're dealing with. This is, as much as anything else, it's a war between good and evil. It's a war between these vicious psychopaths and the rest of humanity they're not like us they don't think like us they appear not to have a conscience um i mean just in terms of the the kind of medical experimentation i get into some of that um in in the book and i won't kind of go into the gruesome details here but i mean it's it's just beyond belief what the nazis were doing in terms of experimenting on people medically and i find it

really deeply troubling in in that regard that what appears to have taken place since 2021 is is a worldwide experiment on a reported 5.5 billion people who took these shots because there was never any adequate data after only a few months. I've shown in one of my papers that these shots, they all contain a whole host of undisclosed ingredients this is based on the studies of 26 different uh research teams that did microscopic and spectroscopic analysis of their contents i mean this this is this is really frightening stuff this could be attempted and could be in fact carried out and of course it has been and and all of the harms are now becoming self-evident so you know what do we do when when faced with that kind of evil it has to start with the role

of conscience and this is a war against all of us and we are all undeclared participants in this war soldier neets and uh he mentioned earlier here, he had the famous line about the line between good and evil runs through every human heart. And because what is taking place here is fundamentally evil, it involves the inversion of morality on so many levels. It's so dark that many people can't face it in fact. But given that that's fundamentally what it is, each of us has to start with our own conscience and what we deep down know to be right and wrong, and even many people who went along with these highly deceptive narratives in 2020, 2021 and beyond,

they must deep down know that there's something really, really badly wrong at this stage. Yes. And when we look into ourselves, it then becomes incumbent on all of us to ask, well, what is it that we can do? And each of us has our own different skill set, our own gifts, our own ways of being able to influence things for the better. So I don't have a magic bullet to say, well, here's the solution to the emergent global totalitarianism. But I do think that if all of us are honest enough and have the kind of moral courage to do what's right that this could be

ended pretty quickly i mean just in terms of the numbers we have a numerically tiny transnational ruling class when you look at statistically how the wealth is distributed across the world 10 owns and controls 76 of the world's wealth. And it increases exponentially as you approach the richest 1%, 0.1%, 0.01%, and so on. The curve goes higher and higher and higher. So, yes, of course, they own the means of production. They have all of that on their sides. They've weaponized it all against us.

But on the other hand, they're seeking to control a reported 8 billion people in the world now we we have the numbers on our side so in a sense it's about awareness as well spreading information as as best we can and it just takes a critical mass of people to say no no to the central bank digital currencies no to the technocracy no to the central bank digital currencies, no to the technocracy, no to the ubiquitous surveillance, no to the smart technologies which are being used to enslave us, no to experimental products being deployed against us without adequate safety data. If enough people can see what's happening and have the backbone to stand up to it these agendas cannot be enforced so much of it relies on the psychological warfare and keeping people in a deceived state a fearful state once people start to come out of that it could be game over yeah i agree i think that's one of the reasons why they're so hell-bent on depopulation you have to look at this and it's like, well, do they just hate people? No, they're concerned because there's 8 billion people and there's maybe just a couple of dozen of them or whatever at the very top. They're very concerned about that. And so they've got to put the odds in their favor. So they've been about depopulation and population reduction for a very long time. And when you talk about the conscience, isn't it interesting that the conscience

was really the thing that was under most direct attack from all these people? Here in the United States, because of the First Amendment and the free exercise of religion and that type of thing, that would give people a pass against any of these mandates in most scenarios. So they had to attack your conscience.

They had to coerce you, attack your conscience, come up with different mechanisms, have a little question and answer period where they're going to say, but you do this, you violate your conscience over here, so now you've got to violate it over here, that type of thing. And so people had objections about the development of these vaccines, that had religious conscientious objections to that and to other things. They were concerned perhaps that this might be training for the, you know,

moving the Overton window to the mark of the beast or anything like that. They had to attack the conscience. They had to attack religious liberty because that's the thing that gives people the backbone and the courage to stand up against this kind of stuff. If you think that this life is not all that there is, then you're going to stand up for the principles that are eternal. And I think that's why they made that such a line of attack during the COVID coercion. 100%. why they they made that such a line of attack uh during the covid coercion 100 and uh i've got a section in the book called hijacking conscience um and i draw parallels between exactly the kind

of thing that you're describing there you know you're right any anybody who stood up and resisted was perversely branded as oh well you're harming and endangering others and you know you're morally objectionable um you're irresponsible uh and so on when actually what many people were trying to do was actually trying to to stand up for basic principles of human freedom uh liberal values, human dignity, etc. But they were branded as the bad ones. It's all inverted. Now, in the book, I draw parallels between that kind of thing and what took place, guess

what, in Nazi Germany, citing, for example, a book written in 2003 by Claudia Kuhns called The Nazi Conscience. Great book because what it argues is that the image of Germans as kind of blind order followers is very much a cliche. And what actually took place over the course of many years in Nazi Germany through methods of propaganda, indoctrination, cultural discrimination, passage of various laws and so on, is that over the course of several years, Germans actually came to believe deep down that yes, it was okay to discriminate in these ways and to hold views about a superior Aryan race and other inferior

groups in society who were worthy of punishment and so on. Once you condition the population in that way, then you can get to some of the worst horrors that we saw at the end of the Third Reich. When these processes unfortunately led to the Holocaust, they led to genocide and various other horrors, the medical experimentation and so on these completely unconscionable acts which history has damned all of this was made possible by hijacking conscience in the early period so i draw attention to this in the book

because in chapter seven but the title of that chapter is called Where It Leads. And having identified a couple of dozen at least parallels between the political economy of 1930s Germany and the political economy of the West since 2020, and having argued that this is all non-accidental, it's all by design, it's all being driven by the same ruling class whose operations I trace from decade to decade in the intervening chapters, when I get to the end of the book, I'm saying, well, where will this go if this is not stopped? And again, the writing is on the wall in many ways.

The Nazis, for example, promoted euthanasia and it's known how euthanasia was the thin edge of the wedge. First the kind of life not worthy of life concept and then killing off disabled children. Eventually you end up with genocide. And so it's deeply troubling today when we look at Canada and the so-called MAID program. Another inversion of morality, you know, MAID sounds kind and caring and so on. But, you know, we're talking about killing,

essentially. And in this country, the Midaslam scandal, another form of euthanasia, and matt hancock is a central figure our former health secretary in this country today he's still pushing for assisted dying and so on so some people might think that this sounds innocent or maybe even good for people who are really really suffering and want an end to life but the problem is when you put it in this broader historical context and trajectory, you can see it's part of a much darker totalitarian agenda.

And we know from history where this leads. And armed with that knowledge, we really have to stop this. Yes, yes. And just as a reminder to the American audience about Madazalam, is it Madazalam or midazolam anyway, but Matt Hancock, very cynical as we saw his emails laughing at these arbitrary rules that he was going to be imposing upon other people,

violating them himself. And then getting, what was it three or five times the amount of midazolam that they had had before. This is something that suppresses a breathing, you know, killed a lot of people. These is something that suppresses breathing, killed a lot of people, these medical protocols that were put through,

just as we did. And I think they used it here as well when they put people on the invasive ventilators. Most of them died. And so this is a mass culling that we saw running through 2020. And so I look at this and I just shake my head that the two people who had involvement in all of this are now our two candidates for the presidency. It's just unbelievable to me.

But the, and when you were talking about that and creating different classes of people, my mind always goes back to New Zealand's Fuhrer. I called her Jab Sinda because she was pushing the vaccine. Sounds like you're creating two classes of people. Yep, yep, that's what it is. And she was just, she loved that. I mean, she was in her glory. Dan Andrews in Australia, Dictator Dan.

And the two of them have been elevated by the globalist elite and given awards and given new positions and all that tells you everything some of the worst dictators are the most rewarded that is a very frightening scenario and it shows this kind of nazi fascism totalitarianism with the probably the best uh we just need to start talking about totalitarianism it's just amazing to see this kind of stuff played out at this time. During that, it was exactly what the Nazis did, what she was doing. Two classes of people, yeah, we're going to punish you. We're going to force you to do this. You're not going to have anything. We're going to take everything away from you. It's just amazing how that was uh like what we had seen and and now everybody's at the stage where well i don't know

where the six foot rule came from i don't know where this mask stuff came from it's like nuremberg all over again except that nobody is going to jail and nobody is going to um be executed they all get the Operation Paperclip treatment. Yeah, I mean, even Nuremberg 1.0 was largely Victor's justice. I mean, no American, no Brit was charged. I mean, some of the senior figures that I've mentioned were directly responsible for the rise of the Nazis in the World War II. Not even mentioned at Nuremberg, so when people call for Nuremberg 2.0, I'm somewhat skeptical of that, I have to say. Yeah, yeah, that would be the same type of thing

where we let the real perpetrators go off and the people who are funding it get off with a pass. It truly is amazing. A very important book, and I'm very interested in reading it. And again, this is David Hughes, and the book is, let me read the title here so I get it right, go ahead and pull up the cover of the book there. Um, and it is wall street, the Nazis and the crimes of the deep state. And it is deep.

It is broad. It has been there. Where's the best place. We've got a screenshot here of a brief screenshot of Amazon. Where's the best place for people to get this do you sell it uh directly you have a website where you sell this or do people just go to amazon or wherever they buy books it's published with skyhorse so american readers can go directly to the skyhorse website and order it there in the united states it's available both as an e-book and as a hard copy edition some of my readers have sent me photos of their hard copy here in the UK it's not yet available

and I myself don't know how to copy yet it's out in July in this country so yeah so I mean the easiest place not that I ever would recommend it, uh, is, is of course, Amazon. David Farley Yeah. Cause then you're feeding the very people we've been talking about. David Farley I know it's so difficult, isn't it? It's so difficult. Mark Leary Skyhorse publishing.com. There's a place where you can go, you can order it direct and you don't have to

feed the beast that we're talking about. So good talking to you, David. Thank you very much. Thank you for the book, wall street, the Nazis and the Crimes of the Deep State. Very important for people to understand the big picture. And you paint that big picture very thoroughly, I believe. It seems like I haven't seen the book, but it certainly, as you're talking about the different chapters and the different aspects, you get the big picture. You certainly do understand it and understand what we're up against.

And folks, we're in the fight of our life because they want to kill us. That's very much the intention is to provide that bigger picture. And also in my previous book, the two kind of work together. So if anybody wants to find out more about my work, Substack's the best place to go, dhughes.substack.com. Good, good. Yeah, I want to talk to you about, we'll have to get another interview and talk to you about that other book as well.

Thank you so much, David Hughes, Wall Street, the Nazis, the Crimes of the Deep State. Thank you. You're very welcome. Thanks for having me on. Thank you. Thank you. The David Knight Show is a critical thinking super spreader.

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