The David Knight Show - INTERVIEW War, Stablecoins, Tokenization & Financial Reset — Where Does Gold Fit In?

Episode Date: November 21, 2024

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Drive safe and obey the rules of the road. Vehicle owners who receive a red light or speed camera violation can pay or dispute online at toronto.ca.aps. know that you're coming through us. And Tony, we were talking about this right after the election and said, hey, we got a Black Friday sale on gold. Take advantage of it while you can. It's already coming back up. It made some big moves yesterday. And both Bitcoin and gold went up significantly. And then Bitcoin started coming down toward the end of the day. Gold kept going up. I don't know. I mean, what is going on in your estimation here? Well, it's funny. The threat of a nuclear exchange can drive up the price of precious metals pretty rapidly. And I figured this would happen.

I mean, the geopolitical tensions, again, everything, all the fundamentals were still there. It's just the price of gold dropped because positions were liquidated to get back into the casino, as perceived to be safe back in the markets. And, of course, we're still seeing Bitcoin breaking new all-time highs. I'm right at a striking distance at 100,000, a little bit sooner than I thought it was going to make 100K on BTC. But, yeah, geopolit geopolitical tensions all that's still there the um the threat of of World War III which uh I mean again sadly is uh I mean all those terrible ifs uh to echo Winston Churchill all the terrible ifs accumulate still and I'm still

watching that very closely we should be concerned with it but yeah that's it's reflected in the price of metals right now David yeah yeah oh absolutely and of course you know when you talk about bitcoin and what is happening with that the trump team is actually talking about having a uh a white house crypto um position uh trump team is vetting candidates to serve a role that would be a new white house post dedicated to cryptocurrency policy. What a difference that is to the existing regime when they've got the SEC chairman who's being sued by, what is it, 15, 17 different states because he's trying to come after crypto. They've done everything they can to punch it in the face straight on. And now you've got the Trump team, which is going to get behind it.

But then, of course, that also has its own concerns about this, because we see what is really waiting in the wings in terms of blockchain. I see that Musk and some of these other people are even talking about, well, we need to do our voting on blockchain. They want to try to move everything, not just money, but voting and citizenship and everything. This is the danger, I think, of Trump and the Republicans, that they want to put carbon taxes and carbon credits and carbon capture and all the rest of the stuff, as well as crypto, as well as voting. They want to set up a surveillance system around this stuff and do it in the name of

the free market. Well, that's true. And crypto's greatest strength is also its greatest weakness in the decentralization process and the technology of blockchain. It also presents a danger if it's in the hands of the wrong people and especially the technocrats or the fascist military industrial complex types that want to rule over us. So we have to be careful with that. You know, the Trump team also, Trump himself is starting a crypto exchange. I don't know if you've seen that. He's going to be buying a crypto exchange. He's already launched tokens and other things like that. This is really, when we talk about the left-right paradigm, the most stark contrast between the two

parties that were on the ballot this year. There wasn't much difference in almost anything else. I mean, not real policy-wise, but being at the Bitcoin conference in Nashville this year and Trump showing up to that, I was talking to my son. He's 19. He doesn't know. I mean, back in 2016, I got into the Bitcoin space and bought some of the first Bitcoin ATMs in the United States. And to think that Trump would be speaking, you know, as a former president, you know, in 2024, advocating Bitcoin as a strategic reserve asset for the U.S. would have seemed just absolutely nuts to me then. And it still kind of does. It really has taken on a lot of adoption rapidly um and i've been predicting that there will be more and more of that rolling out so yeah this that's something that you're going

to see and i think that's why it's reflecting in the price of bitcoin right now i mean uh especially after the launch of the etfs david with blackrock and others and there's billions of dollars in inflows and there's not a lot of Bitcoin supply, honestly, on these exchanges. More and more are just being held long term in these wallets. So I think we'll see Bitcoin continue to rise in the entire crypto space. But I think the danger here is something that you and I would look at it, I mean, really skeptically, is do they want to usher in something else? Do they want to bring in everybody into crypto and then crush it and then say, well, we need regulation.

And then this best way to do it is with a CBDC. That's what I'm still concerned with. I'm still looking on the horizon for the central bank digital currency. I don't buy the hype that especially when you get government, I don't need the government to get involved in Bitcoin. I don't need the government to get involved in gold. I don't need a gold czar or a Bitcoin czar or anything like that. It takes care of itself. You don't need to defend it. So that's always something that I get skeptical on when I see we're going to create a new agency or a new person to oversee anything. Just let the free market reign and take care of itself. Government

intervention always leads to bankruptcy. Yeah, you know, I see Trump's role as being there as someone who moves the Overton window. He moved the Overton window significantly towards universal basic income. He moved the Overton window significantly towards global IDs with the, you know, as part being a part of this global move to have vaccine passports, to lock everybody down. The next part of that's the vaccine passports and things like that. So all these things are a part of this lockdown that he initiated. It was all about moving the Overton window. And I think that's a big part of what all the blockchain frenzy within the Trump transition team and the people all around him is about.

It's about moving the Overton window towards cryptocurrency, getting people comfortable with it so they can drop the hammer on us. I really think that's the case in the same way that they got us accustomed to. Oh, they tell you that you got to be locked down. Well, then they can force you to be locked down. They tell you that you got to put a handkerchief on your face and walk in circles. You do that, too. You know, I mean, it's it's just a Simon Says type of world, but it's moving, getting everybody accustomed to where they want to go. We know where this stuff ends. It truly is. It is amazing. And you talk about how we get here with Trump. We got here pretty

quickly as you had all of these people coalesce around him very rapidly, give him a lot of money. And now they're basically running the show. I mean, he's just a figurehead like Biden in many cases. I think certainly with crypto, he doesn't know any more about what's going on with crypto than Joe Biden does. It's just the people around him. No, and I often tell the story about when he was reading his speech in Nashville, talking about the market cap for silver being surpassed by Bitcoin at one time. I think it's done it again.

But he said, and it has recently surpassed the market cap of silver. And he reads that and goes, wow. He's reading it for the first time. And you're exactly right. And, you know, nothing is really set here. I think there's opportunity with Bitcoin and the game theory of other nations adopting it and other things because again it educates people on what money actually is and that you know it should be something that's finite and uh that's hard you know again stable uh something that is divisible all the things that constitute money and it's

stores of energy when fiat currency is not and And I think that's, you know, if the powers that be, if they created Bitcoin to get people to adopt central bank digital currency, it's really a bad idea. It's going to backfire on them, I believe. But I think just the crypto market itself is something that we should be skeptical about. I think, again, I applaud most of the technology there, but when we're looking at the future, they will adopt the central bank digital currency on the back of something. Yeah. And we have to be, I think, very vigilant in the face of that because the CBDC, ladies and gents, is still on the horizon. Nothing slows that down, whether it's a Trump

administration or a Harris administration. that didn't matter to me. I'm still looking at the central bank digital currency being the main threat in the future leading into 2030. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I don't know if you caught it or not, but at the beginning of the show, I talked about both the leaked papers that the Gray Zone got about Project Alchemy in the UK put together by these retired these veterans who call themselves the elders and everything they're talking about an operation gladio stuff but it also got into all the financial stuff that you're always talking about said well you know there's we have to look at this and figure out what swift 2 is going to be because swift is inevitably going to go away slowly but

inevitably it's going to go away because of our wars. Because they're destroying the financial system as our own financial system, our own financial infrastructure is being destroyed by the people who essentially run it. and talking about what he saw on the horizon, was talking about what happens as part of a Mideast war where Saudi Arabia just does a fire sale on all of its U.S. treasuries and the types of destruction that can happen with that. So in both of these cases, they're talking about war, but that war has tremendous impact in terms of creating financial crises for the people.

And they talked about this in terms of this is going to create a lot of financial hardship for people in the U.K., in the U.S. They're going to push back on this war. So we need to keep that as part of our plan as well. It's not just how long can we go killing people in ukraine until they get sick of it it's also going to be people in our own country when we destroy the financial system of our country for our geopolitical wars what are they going to do about it yeah we're already in a worldwide war and it starts out financially and as we've talked about this every week but you know this is the uh culmination of the fourth turning following uh the last uh new financial order, which was Bretton Woods in 1944. And, you know, the World Bank and the IMF and everything that was set up there.

You fast forward 80 plus years and then, you know, we're losing the dollar as the world's reserve currency, surely from hubris, arrogance, the weaponization of the dollar. A lot of that, I believe, is a controlled demolition on purpose because there's no policy set up by this government or the West to keep the dollar propped up other than war. And that's going to backfire. That has blowback written all over it. I think that's what we're watching, David. And, you know, there's a tell in this, by the way. I was interviewing Andy Sheckman from Miles Franklin a couple of weeks ago. I have that interview up on the Wise Wolf Golden Crypto channel. And we talked about the Bank of International Settlements.

Funny thing about the BIS that predates the Great Depression, by the way, and a lot of the, if you don't know your inside history, the gold that Franklin Roosevelt wanted you to turn in when he signed his, I believe, unconstitutional executive order to turn in your gold. A lot of that gold went to the BIS, ladies and gents. You can look at your history. It was shipped overseas to Basel, Switzerland. But if you really follow the trend with BRICS, David, and the payment systems that they're setting up and the summits that they're having, really leading towards some sort of universal payment system through BRICS internally, at the head of that has been the BIS. And Andy was speaking with

Kitco and they said, well, isn't the BIS a Western institution? And Andy said, yeah, well, I guess it is. You know, it's kind of confusing. Well, that is the thing here, right? These merchants have no country they have no they have no loyalty they're not representing anything but the interest of themselves so i think what you're watching is this worldwide financial war is heating up uh for domination of markets for cross-border payment systems for the pricing of commodities all this is on the table this is what's going on the periphery outside of the financial news networks that the teleprompter readers that are never going to talk about this stuff because it's going to reset everything.

And again, they call it a great reset. So these big institutions like mega institutions like the BIS, they're just looking to pick the winner, like whatever system is going to work. They don't care about who brung them to the dance or what's been the current power structure. And I think that's what we need to be paying attention to is that these giant institutions, they go on and Swift will most likely be scrapped. I mean, because of these countries leaving it. a couple of weeks ago at the BRICS summit, introduced the BRICS bridge system, which, you know, using blockchain token technology for cross-border payment. They're coming up with everything they can to get away from the dollar-dominated Western system. And guess what? They will win that. Gold will win over the dollar, as we talk about every week.

I mean, you're just seeing the numbers are coming in every month. The de-dollarization continues. And just like you said, I mean, part of the war here and part of what's happening, 80% of all the energy that is transacted, other energy transactions, whether it's crude oil or natural gas, that goes on in dollars right now. But that is rapidly decreasing with every new news cycle because we lost the petrodollar agreement with the Saudis. Everything is on the table now. It may not be replaced by one currency, but by several and new technology. So that will severely hurt the power of the dollar and the ability for the U.S. to project power. Oh, I agree. Yeah. You know, everybody is talking

about familiar with BRICS and we're talking about what's happening with that. And, you know, there's the stuff that we see that is right in front of us and is coming at us as, you know, the Biden administration was attacking crypto and trying to make it all illegal and shut down Bitcoin. But now, you know, it might not even be bricks. It might be, I guess we call it bits. You know, the fact that they're setting up all this blockchain stuff in the background. There's an interesting article on all this unlimited hangout, breaking down the chain of the Bitcoin dollar office and seem to have this control of him.

Privately issued tokenized government debt that operates on public blockchains known as dollar stable coins. And this is what Howard Lutnick is all about. You know, Tether, where he hung out and everything. And this guy, very, very connected. Somebody sent me a thing or made a comment on twitter somewhere i didn't realize that lutnik had a lucky uh moment with 9-11 as well just like uh lucky silverstein you know we had a lucky lutnik who uh just happened to not go to work that day when when the attack occurred and half of his employees were killed uh but you know this is a

guy who and and all around trump it's interesting because you got rudy giuliani who did the 9-11 cover-up you got lucky lutnik now is there and he's going to be head of the commerce department uh and and that's where he stuck the rothschild banker last time wolver ross he put him in commerce department so now he's got lutnik the, the stablecoin guy. I mean, I see this, you know, some new system. I don't know exactly what the details are, but we can see the broad outlines of where these people want to go. We know that they're destroying the current financial system. They openly talk about it, as you have always talked about it. The SWIFT clearinghouse system and the dollar is the petrodollar and all these things are being destroyed. They're setting up something different. And so Russia's got their

thing out there, BRICS, we see it. This thing is yet to take shape, but we know that it's going to be something about stablecoin and blockchain and something like that. And it's going to be kind of a public-private partnership for CBDC, I think. I agree with you totally. There's something, we don't know, but all I can speculate is some sort of creative destruction. Because you see the debt, I mean, it's like what we're going into a trillion dollars in debt every 90 days. And then after all payments received, it's about two trillion net a year. Again, it took us 200 years to go a trillion dollars the first time. So everything's unsustainable. I think we have 150 trillion dollars in unfunded liabilities to David. Just I think that's probably a conservative estimate. So all of that's and who do we owe the debt to?

Well, we owe it to this banking consortium, this international cabal that started in 1913. Do we really owe anything? A lot of what may be part of the creative destruction, and again, this is just speculation, is getting these other countries to dump their U.S. debt where we don't owe them anything or we don't owe them a return, and there's nothing stopping a complete reset. And then we have to go and reset our currency to something else, which may be on the table like a Bretton Woods for whatever you want to call it. You know, again, it'd be something that we haven't done before. Maybe maybe this is the move towards a blockchain or crypto system, something like that. All I know is that the current system is there's a controlled demolition going on because no one is putting up roadblocks to preserve it. And again, doing everything in their power to accelerate de-dollarization

and to accelerate the loss of the dollar as the world's reserve currency. That being said, what is next? If they know that, there's got to be some sort of replacement. And perhaps it's just because of the ballooning debt, because no one talks about fiscal sanity anymore, just some sort of reset baked into that. And that is ripe for things like CBDC. Yeah. Oh, I agree. You were talking about the deficit and how the debt is growing with the annual deficit of about $2 trillion a year. And yet we've got people that are in such a state of euphoric optimism after the victory of Trump that they really think that the Doge brothers, Musk and Ramos, can save $2 trillion. I mean, they seriously put this stuff out there and uh i mean what what are you

what do you think is uh the likelihood of uh of what they might actually cut uh we know that it's not going to be two trillion dollars uh what do you think it's going to be will be uh anywhere from two dollars to two trillion where do you put the needle well first i thought it had been creative or somebody said well the budget of the Office of Doge should be whatever you can start saving the American taxpayer. So your budget starts with what you can cut, you know, what you can cut from other agencies, perhaps in like a cannibalistic way. I don't know. I mean, I'm skeptical on any of this. I mean, what Ronald Reagan ran on cutting the Department of Education, it was just there. I mean, it was Jimmy Carter that put it in motion.

He could have killed it. And, of course, it grew. And you talked about this many times. Could have strangled Rosemary's baby in the crib instead. Right. There's nothing more permanent than a temporary solution from a government. A government solution is nothing more permanent than a temporary one. I see that the Levi know, the Leviathan

continues to grow. We're always naming, you know, whether we have a drug czar, now we have a crypto czar, we have a crime czar, we have all these offices, all these petty potentates just reigning over us. I mean, again, Washington's not the answer. It's too too centralized it's it's too corrupt the layers are too i mean you're talking about a thousand people deep uh you know in these organizations or who knows i mean it's it's always this delusion like i was talking about earlier everybody thinks that their problems can be solved if they just have a king to rule over them so let's have a king for this and a king for that and that's what they call it. Cesar. Cesar. That's right.

That's Cesar. So I was reading the other day that the Federal Reserve, you know, talk about nonpartisan. We're above it. The Federal Reserve, I mean, what was it? Their employees, they have $600,000 was sent to and during this presidential campaign, 97% of it went to Democrats. That's the Federal Reserve employees across the United States, 97%. So that's how Washington looks, folks. I mean, it's an entrenched bureaucracy of globalists, and they lean in the unit party.

It's usually the Democratic Party. And of course, it flows both ways. But that's what you're looking at. I mean, I would love it if they could start cutting government agencies and throwing people out. That would be great. We don't need, what, 80%, 90% of the federal government. It doesn't even do its constitutionally appointed duty most. I mean, just to guard the borders, really, of the United States.

We don't even do that. So it fails on that account. Oh, yeah. Yeah. As a matter of fact, when I guard the borders, really, of the United States. We don't even do that. So it fails on that account. Oh, yeah. Yeah. As a matter of fact, when I looked at all this stuff, if you go back and look at the Congressional Budget Office and what they said was mandatory spending. In other words, the debt and entitlement stuff, right, that you're not going to be able to change that unless you change the laws and unless you cut off people's Social Security or something like that. And of course, we know Congress isn't going to do that. So, you know, if unless you change the entitlement state and you're not going to change this debt stuff,

there's like one point seven trillion of the six and a half or whatever that was actually discretionary. And about half of that's the military. So you're going to completely cut the military out and something else like that in order to save two trillion. The math just doesn't add up. I don't see these guys cutting any more than tens of billions, if even that. I mean, no, they can always play some games. They can play some accounting games by putting something on a different ledger or something like that. But I just don't see that there's so much money in washington and if we

look at this last election uh lala gets a billion dollars and you know trump gets like two-thirds of a billion and and that's not counting all the money that goes into all these senators and congressmen and and these people are not making donations they're making investments they expect to get something out of it and they usually get you know a thousand percent return on their thousands of percent return on their investments so uh the corruption that is there is just so entrenched and these other things are so entrenched and most of these cuts are going to have to come from congress and congress isn't going to do anything and so i i just i look at it and it's it's to, it's such a cynical joke. And they even call it Doge.

Right. It's a cynical joke. Well, 20 years ago, David, they had that bipartisan commission. I'd just gotten back from Iraq and I remember following this really closely. Simpson bowls. Remember Simpson bowls they put together and they came out with a commission. Yeah. All these different.

They came out and said, well, this is all, this is really unsustainable. You have to make these massive cuts and there's this is all this is really unsustainable you have to make these massive cuts and there's got to be this and we got to raise revenue and then it was just ignored i mean just kick the can down the road and look at the fiscal house it's on fire since then i mean just a completely different country i try to remind people the debt of the u.s in 2000 was five trillion which sounds like a lot i mean it's a lot of money but i mean in comparison to what now, close to 38, whatever we're getting, 37, 38 trillion,

who really knows what the actual number is. And it's just a ballooning and accelerating rate. So, you know, none of this is going to end well, they have to have a new system. And let's just be honest, you can have, I applaud anything that's attempts are made to cut government spending and to cut the size of government.

I mean, that's great. I just don't want to rain on that parade just because it's a silly name. But I think that at the end of the day, unless you fix the currency, unless we have a real meeting with reality on our currency and how all this works, it doesn't really matter because they're going to continue to go and hit print to inflate their way. And that's what it is. Currency creation is inflation. When you inflate your way out of war or welfare or whatever your need is, again, that's what debases the currency. It creates the deficits. It creates all the problems. And so until we get that, our fiscal house in order with the currency,

all the rest is just window dressing. That's right. Again, it's rearranging the deck chairs in the Titanic. And you look at what their solution is going to be to things. For the longest time I've said, and Eric Peters said it last week too, he said, don't deport people, defund the welfare state for people coming into this country from other

countries, right? You're incentivizing them to come in. But rather than stopping that, they can save some money there. But I guarantee you that rather than stopping the entitlements for foreigners that they've got, which in many cases are superior to the entitlements for U.S. citizens, rather than stopping that, what are they going to do? They're going to ramp up a fully militarized law enforcement thing. They're going to build detention camps all the rest of stuff they're going to spend a lot of money on setting up biometric id and all the rest of they're going to double down on the police and surveillance state and that all costs money but they're going to keep that welfare state going for people even that aren't u.s. citizens. It's insane to look at this government and, you know, again,

I don't like to rain on people's parade, but, you know, I got to say it's raining. It's raining really bad. We got a flood coming, I think, and nobody's looking at it. Everybody's just got stars in their eyes because we got got a new election and things are going to change. And we're going to get out the current evil and we're going to bring another evil, which is starting to take shape in the background. And so I just want to get out of that system. You know, I look at the gold stuff and I want to get out of this financial system. I want to get out of this coming stable coin, Bitcoin dollar trap that they're creating.

I want to get out of the great taking as much as I can. I just want to get out of this whole system, and I want to go physical, private, and all the rest of this stuff with gold. And all, as we say every week, the fundamentals, unfortunately, have not changed. When you look at geopolitical instability and wars and all the rest of this stuff, it's all still there. Everybody's euphoric and happy about changing of the guard, but it's not going to be that much of a change, I don't think. It's going to be different, but it's still going to be fundamentally the same, I think.

That's exactly right. All this is, really, is an opportunity for you to prepare because, again, I think it's just a little bit of breathing room. The markets will be stable and somewhat because it's psychological. There's lots of liquidity hitting the market, which is what it craves. And it craves debt and currency creation. It's getting that right now. And we have a little bit of time. Gold, I think, is relative, even worth it being back over $2,600 an ounce, David. It's still relatively cheap, given the debasement of the dollar. And you're right about having physical metals outside of the system. I mean,

which is a 5,000 year history that we have of precious metals. And it's going to be with us as long as there's human beings, there's going to be gold and silver will be known as some sort of monetary metal. It has uses outside of just being monetary too you know with with medicine with technology and other things with jewelry so we're always going to have it it's part of our story it's a good thing to have outside of the system because it it houses value and energy um and again gold is over just money they're not really an investment they just represent what money actually is um we don't need a gold standard by the u.s government or a bitcoin standard we already have those just make them leave legal tender that's what's funny about

our government has no standards it's right they don't mean i don't we had a gold standard from 1944 to 1971 uh but you couldn't legally own gold either. I kind of like this system better. I already have a gold standard. I have my own bank or I have a Bitcoin standard. So I'm my own bank. And when you start getting the government involved or, you know, we're talking about a crypto czar or whatever it is, I don't think it's necessary. The free market speaks for itself. And we already have these standards. They're worldwide. They're universally recognized and outside of the system. I love them. It's as unnecessary as a Department of Education.

Yes. To have a Department of Crypto. I've got a question for you from Atomic Dog. He says, question for Tony. Have we seen the bottom of the profit-taking in silver and gold? What are you feeling? You kind of answered that. You know, I kind of think, as I've said uh since this all happened I said we got a we got a

Black Friday sale going on early with gold and silver well I mean I think uh the tensions with Ukraine and Russia accelerated goals rise back up climb back up the ladder because again fear uncertainty and doubt um just going back into to precious metals because it looks like the markets are going to get, you know, again, weird. They're they're unstable because the future is unsaid. It doesn't look like, you know, when Trump was elected, that little brief window that week or so where people like, oh, we're going to avert World War Three. Well, Biden said, hold my beer. Hold on. I'm on the way out. So let me see if I can get some ICBMs being launched over Ukraine. We certainly got that.

And I mean, you know, really stepping back logically, if you follow geopolitics or if you're interested in foreign policy, how insane is it that we have these British missiles and other things made by the West being authorized to be launched into Russian territory by the United States government in conjunction with Ukraine? If you'd have thought about that during the Cold War, David, you know how insane that would be. That's Cuban Missile Crisis level. Well, just go back to Dr. Strangelove. I mean, you know, these guys are like Jack D. Ripper, General Jack D. Ripper, the nut who set all this stuff off. That's really what this whole Biden regime and the British, they're all like that.

They're like this crazy guy who wanted to set off a world war they're all jack d ripper it's amazing truly is amazing you said earlier sorry go ahead no i said it really is david i mean that's when you read these headlines if you don't have any sort of background in reading about geopolitics over the 20th century then it seems kind of well it's you know this you know, this is normal. It's not normal. This is way out of the context of anything that is saying. Yeah, they get us there gradually. You know, if we just backed up a couple of years and people say, well, you're going to

have the U.S. and the British are going to be firing their missiles and we will be the ones doing the firing directly into Russia. It's like, what are you doing? You mentioned earlier that uh trump's gonna have a crypto thing has he yet named the baby yet is he going to name it after one of his failed casinos or maybe the mirage i don't know what the mirage uh i i don't know i don't know i don't i didn't get the the name of it yet but uh he recently launched a you know and he's he went remember the nfts that he did as well a couple of years ago yeah uh he's been in the space he's gonna i think he's gonna continue

to be in the space not personally but his brand for sure he'll call it truth coin or something right probably that's what it's gonna be but uh he loves that uh well uh you've got a program that's going to be following right after this one and uh tell people a little bit about that and anything that's uh happening other than you know just trying to keep up with the crazy markets as everything's getting crazier and crazier at wise wolf tell us what's going on there and what's coming up with your program well thank you again dave for having me on yeah we're just keeping up with markets and keeping supply it's harder than it looks and i'm enjoying it we've got especially with these prices

going all over the place and then we've made we'll probably make new invoices today based off of price and market conditions but uh going into the holidays and i've got some gifts going out to everybody in wolfpack i've just bought some stuff from, you know, Christmas type items and things that are going to be going in the packages. So if you haven't joined Wolfpack, you ought to. You'll get a Christmas gift. So go over to DavidKnight.Gold and check that out. We've got a lot of new items and variety going in there as well.

And, yeah, I've got my show, the Arterburn Radio Transmission, once a week, every Thursday following my interview with you. You can find me on X at Tony Arterburn Radio Transmission, once a week, every Thursday, following my interview with you. You can find me on X at Tony Arterburn and we've got rockfin.com, the America Unplugged channel, and Rumble. I'll be live over there. So just a little under an hour and we'll

have a conversation. That's cool. Yeah. Oh, that's neat. You've got some gifts coming out for Christmas. Maybe people will get a copy of the song Silver and Gold from Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer. Tony dressed up like Klondike, whatever his name was, Sam or something. That's a good idea. Always looking for silver and gold. And so the prospects are looking up for silver and gold as we get into these difficult times.

It's always good to have a foundation of something that's real. And that's what we have to fall back on in so many different ways. And so that applies financially as well. Thank you so much for coming on, Tony. Again, Wise Wolf Gold. You can get there with DavidKnight.Gold. And stay tuned right after the show for Tony's show. Thank you so much, Tony.

Thank you, David. All right, folks, we're going to take a quick break. And we will be right back.