The David Knight Show - INTERVIEW Why ETF Bitcoin? Why Do Institutions Want It?
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Things are getting really crazy now, aren't they?
Well, absolutely crazy.
That's the
order of the day david thanks for thanks for having me uh it's a rare friday appearance on
the show i appreciate you being flexible with my schedule i've been back and forth between texas and
and branson and uh yeah it's it things are accelerating david across the across the
spectrum politically economically socially spiritually we're we're in the thick of it
yeah oh yeah i think it's only going to go faster we're going to be picking up speed as we come down
that 2029 deadline uh that they've got for this stuff you know so they can have their society in
there by 2030 uh yeah i think it's going to really accelerate from this point um and speaking of
acceleration uh what what what do things look like um on the financial uh front oh well you know
we've had the introduction of the bitcoin etfs and um i had a great interview the other day on
the wise wolf golden crypto show with the gentleman who wrote the book rigged it's about
the how they rigged the gold and silver markets stewart angler and he was uh on my on my podcast
and he said, well,
you know, they introduced the Bitcoin ETF so they can manipulate Bitcoin. And I hadn't really thought
of it that way. I knew that it was a way for the financial markets to keep sort of clean,
their customers don't have to actually own physical Bitcoin, so they're not part of the
crypto space and they can invest in it. But he's absolutely right. And I thought, wow, I don't know
why that escaped me, but that's how they manipulate the gold and silver markets is through the ETFs, through the paper.
And he said, that's the poison pill. So they're endorsing it. It's a kiss of death. You get Larry
Fink to say, oh, Bitcoin's a store of value, but don't own it. You need to own it through us.
We're the custodian of that. So I started to really put that together. Cause I was trying to figure out what message are they sending here?
And it is, uh, I don't know why I ever think positively.
It's always sinister with the bankster class.
Oh yeah.
And when was it, was that in 2017 when they started doing some institutional,
I forget what it was that changed with Bitcoin, but it, uh, you know, they
were bragging about the fact that all institutions are going to start
investing in this now because something, I forget what changed and what what but what you saw was a pump and then a dump and uh you know so
that's when it went up uh it was a high at that time went up like 17 or 18 and then it they dumped
it down really low and it stayed there for quite a while that's why when i looked at this i thought
well i kind of seems like they might do that same type of thing again i know there's other things
happening in terms of the having that's the halving that is coming up you know where they change the way that um you
know the reward that you have for mining it and that type of stuff but it seems like whenever
wall street gets involved there's going to be something really sinister in it and and as you
point out that etf it's just like the paper gold and paper silver and how they manipulated that
market and it really doesn't make any sense.
If you stop and think about a crypto thing,
and it's like they're going to physically transfer anything, you know,
what's the purpose of having the ETF?
Sometimes they'll say, well, you know,
you can buy a fraction of it and you can do it through your broker.
So maybe it's easier to do it that way.
I don't know.
I just, it seemed like a, you know, solution in search of a problem.
Right.
But again, in Bitcoin, there's 100 million Satoshis for each Bitcoin.
So it's divisible by 100 million.
So you can buy fractional pieces of Bitcoin all day long, and it's easy to buy.
So the fact that I think they're hijacking it.
There was an article also Zero Hedge was covering about the politicization of the of CBDC is coming in for this election. And, you know, I wonder if
if Jared Kushner is upset with Donald Trump for going against the CBDC that he was pushing during
the Trump administration. I mean, I know what your take on this is, David, but it looks like especially United States, there's a they are politicizing and putting in the left right paradigm.
It's partisan now.
The central bank digital currency.
What a you know, we we know what the Democratic Party is now.
But what a steep fall from the party of Jefferson and Andrew Jackson.
Right. Just and William Jennings, Brian. a steep fall from the party of Jefferson and Andrew Jackson, right?
Just, and, and William Jennings, Brian.
And that's the thing, you know, when we embracing the banksters.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Going to crucify us instead of on a cross of gold on, on a cross at CBDC.
But yeah, that was why I remember when RFK Jr.
Came out, I'd been talking about CBDC for a while.
And I said, this is good because he's coming out against CBDC and he understands the issue.
And that could help it from becoming a partisan issue.
Because if it becomes a partisan issue, that's really going to hurt us.
But now it's become a partisan issue.
And when Trump talked about it, he didn't have any sense of what CBDC was.
As one person said, well, guess uh the people around him did
enough analytics that they realize this is something he needs to mention it's one thing
to say it that's another thing to do it if you're a candidate you have to align with people on the
issues that they're concerned about but then of course doing something about it i don't really
think that that's going to happen he didn't seem to have any sense of what it was i remember when desantis came out and and talked about it early on in his campaign and he had a
20-minute press conference where he talked about and he had a sign that said um big brother digital
money and and he laid out all the problems with it and then the first question is yes but what
about donald trump's indictment in manhattan you know i did and that's all it is it's all really just about that so his people it's another
checkpoint for some of the people who may be paying a slight attention to the issues but
they don't really pay any attention to his character uh but it's going to just be about him
all right and this is goes back to the 2016 campaign style where they had 5000 data points on every American who used Facebook through Cambridge Analytica.
Give a shout out to my friend Billy Ray Valentine, who's done excellent research on this.
So they're handing him talking points. It's not popular, especially on the right.
People that are paying attention, it's not popular to have central bank digital currency.
So, you know, again, I voted for Donald Trump in 2016
because I wanted a border and instead I got a new world order so I'm not I'm not trusting that I mean
we put uh President Fauci in charge and did Operation Warp Speed in a lockdown mail-in
ballot election so I'm I you know pardon me if I'm not getting excited about 2024 and the prospects. I can get a new key Haley, or I've got Donald Trump.
Well, they're just going to get away from her.
They're just going to inaugurate him, coronate him.
That's what the RNC says.
Let's just declare him.
The primaries are over.
Who cares about any of this stuff, right?
Yeah, I love that.
Instead of a border, I got a new world order.
Or we could say i got an executive order
right right that locked me down he didn't lock down the border he locked me down he said i'm
not essential instead of deplorable what's the big difference with all that stuff yeah
so i and i remember you know along those same lines talking about just billy ray valentine
talking about how um they did cambridge analytica looking at the
analytics what do people want to hear and see that's the beauty that's what social media was
designed for it was designed so they could not only put out a narrative of propaganda but they
could instantly see if it's working and see what everybody believes what everybody wants and you
just feed that okay and then and also fine-tune your narrative.
But I remember when he was running, I remember going through the health care plan, because Obamacare was another one of the big issues at the time, and I remember looking at that,
and he had about 12 to 15 different points on there.
They were all excellent.
They were all about market reform and transparency so people
could see what the hospitals were doing and you know make an evaluation in terms of the quality
of health care as well as the cost of health care empower people with the ability to make these
purchases and so forth and as soon as he got elected they deep-sixed that down the memory
hole and you never saw it again i I even went back to look for it.
I couldn't find it anywhere.
And,
um,
I didn't have the title of it,
so I could look for it on the way back machine.
And it was completely gone from all the stuff.
And instead,
what did we get?
We got medical martial law.
You know,
we got the worst healthcare we've ever had in this country because it was
dictated by Donald Trump from Washington,
you know,
and he dictated it by paying trump from washington you know and he
dictated it by paying these people to do this stuff it's amazing how just how opposite it all
went but absolutely opposite and it's it's bizarre to me and i i'm not partisan i'm not political
right now because there's nothing for me to support other than local and grassroots movements
but it is bizarre to me to see even in alternative
media we're doing this again and I I don't know how to process it David I don't know how
intellectually like I can look at somebody and say well you're a journalist you research you
know what happened but we're going to do this again and I don't understand it I know that it
takes away people's hope and I guess you know i financially it's stupid for me
to be opposed to the maga movement and all but i understand what it tracks back to i know the root
and genesis of it is really not about any of the the key issues it's more about directing those
people i mean if we were going to win we i thought we were supposed to get tired of winning remember
i was supposed to get tired of winning instead i, I was supposed to get tired of winning.
Instead, I got locked down.
I was told I was not essential.
Hundreds of thousands of businesses squashed, the supply chain destroyed.
We've, we've had cognitive damage to children.
Unlike anything seen in modern times.
I mean, don't get me started with the, with the entire, the warp speed injection.
I mean, it's all bad.
And so I don't know how I can process that.
So I'm not in this political.
I'm just more in my wheelhouse is, do you realize what's happening to your currency?
Do you realize that we're about to shift into a completely new system and you're going to get left behind if you're paying attention to the old?
And so that's really what I feel like my calling is right now we can talk politics to the blue in the face it's it's
such a pageant and now i mean speaking of pageant you got nikki haley she was kicked out of the
pageant in the 80s but she's back in this one you know she's a lot she's allowed now so it is really
just ridiculous dave yeah politics is uh is uh uh ugly celebrities that are out there yeah it's a
hollywood for ugly it's, it's Hollywood for ugly people.
So she's our ugly celebrity.
She's gotten pretty ugly with things.
I think it's interesting that she's got to go to South Carolina
to the people that she just threw under the bus,
calling them bigoted deep South people who had elected her twice.
And now she's got to go back and try to get votes from them a third time.
It's going to be interesting to see, I think.
Maybe she would support ending all the primaries at this point.
I don't know.
But, yeah, when we look at it, as I was saying before,
and as I pointed out yesterday, you know, Catherine Austin Fitz said,
you look at people like Bill Gates and how he's out there
scarfing up land everywhere, Warren Buffett with railroads,
massive purchases of gold and silver.
They would like to get you into things that are encumbered with debt, whether you're talking
about the U S dollar or whether you're talking about the stock market or even a heavily mortgaged
property.
And so, uh, they would like to have you there while they start to accumulate all this stuff,
because, you know, if everybody wants to go out and get hard assets and tangible assets
and things like that, uh, that's more competition for them. But I think, you know,
the more we look at this, the more, the better gold and silver, things like that look to me,
because again, it is a hard asset. It's got real intrinsic value. And it's something that has
anonymity, unlike the property, even with all of his shell companies guess what they figured out what he's got well besides the foundation of christianity in the west we have the idea of private property
and that's what's driven our civilization but if you fast forward to the creation of the world
economic forum you're supposed to own nothing and be happy Want to own part of that music streaming company
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There's an ownership society they want to create, just a few owners.
That's what a 15-minute city is all about.
That's right.
If you think about it, a 15-minute city sounds convenient. you could be within 15 minutes of everything right but who owns the things because
there's going to be blocked out like oh there's it's just like when you create a new shopping
Center or a mall they those those owners those Builders go in and they find one store that's
going to fit this parameter and that's what they're going to do that's it's not diversity
uh it's not decentralization it's centralization that they're doing.
You talk about the housing, Vanguard, BlackRock. Now, Facebook, other Silicon Valley overlords are buying up residential property.
That's right. That's right. You are being we the American people, and especially in the West, we're being pushed out of ownership of real tangible assets
and that's because who controls the tangible assets this is a game and when you talk about
it's it's life and death in a lot of in a lot of ways because it's musical chairs
with your entire destiny whether you have uh anything to say at the end of the day so
anything anything of value at the end and that's what these people are doing.
They're pushing us out of real ownership.
And that's why I keep telling people pay attention to the currency game.
They're getting out of currency,
putting it into hard assets.
That's why they're looking,
they're searching for to park it somewhere,
you know,
and,
and,
and black rocks in charge of trillions upon trillions of dollars.
And we look at what is happening with the stock market.
They can, they can, you know, pump this stuff up and get everybody get into this thing it's it's maybe
volatile and who knows what's going to happen with it but hey look it's it's going up so jump
on to that there's the fear of missing out everybody pours into that they take their
profits and go buy tangible assets go buy our homes so that we have no place to you know
no home ownership.
That's the key thing.
You say 15 minutes, everything's so convenient.
No, there won't be anything.
You'll be 15 minutes from nothing.
There'll be nothing really that you want or nothing that you can do.
And if there's something that happens to be somewhere else,
you're not going to be able to go there either.
But of course, the thing that gives us variety and gives us choices,
competition and mobility and all these different things so when you shut all that stuff down these 15 minute open-air prisons are not going to have anything in them as you point out
they're going to you know it's going to be some kind of a generic um you know everything will be
just generic because they're going to have some kind of a concession from the government that
controls it all yes the combined wealth of of black rock and vanguard and some of these other oligarchs in
the wef outstrip the uh gdp of the united states right so they who's really making
the rules here it's uh the golden rule he who has the gold makes the rules pay attention to what
they do not so much what they say because you know you get larry fink will come out and say
bitcoin's a store of value with a wink and a nod and i've been contemplating that for two weeks i
mean what is that and then i have stewart angler on my show and he goes that's because they're
manipulating with detail oh i see i get it now and i'm because i was trying to find the angle
what's the angle what's the angle it because i'm that's all it has to be an angle right it can't be because they're not about free markets
right they don't want you to own anything i i doubt they want you to be happy either
uh i think they want you to shut up i think they want you to be anesthetized take some soma
yeah that in the new world order that's what that's what this is all about and you know buy
some fang stocks because j Jim Cramer told you so.
That's where we are right now.
It is saddening to watch because we're getting ready to do 2016 Part 2, The Reckoning, and people are getting behind that again.
I don't know what to say because the country, look at the departure of any sort of normality or sanity sanity david i mean it's it's yeah i've never
seen anything like this i mean just on the political spectrum you know the fact that you're
gonna just say well we're not we're gonna kick everybody off the ballot except for biden in
florida then you know other places they kick biden off because he tried to leapfrog their you know
new hampshire tried to leapfrog their thing but then now the rnc is the craziest thing well let's
just forget all the rest of the primaries let's just have them in there they've already uh you know trashed all
the debates uh they didn't talk about anything of any substance anyway in the debates it's always
just a rehash of the same uh issues they've been talking about for the last 60 years they never say
anything but they're not even going to go through the motions of pretending to have debates and
elections and all the rest of this stuff it truly is amazing and it is another testimony of the fact that everything is just being
swept away and the financial system is going to be a big part of that as well it's going to happen
the same way one day they're going to say well let's just forget about all this and we'll just
do something completely different that's what you have to watch for and you know there is there's
pushback on CBDC.
We've got some grassroots.
It's entered the consciousness of at least a percentage of voters that makes it appealing for the people to hand Donald Trump a note to say,
hey, you're against this.
So I'm glad we've made some inroads.
That's right.
But they will find a way.
And crisis is usually the way.
It's one of the people to watch for because it will be used.
The crisis will be used as an opportunity to get people to ask for it.
I mean, that's really generally the rule of how all of this works.
You're going to have to ask for it.
But it is like my friend Charlie Robinson says,
CBDC is the hill to die on.
I mean, it's private.
I'm broadcasting more because of it.
I've made myself two more shows and more appearances because it's not just about getting your hands on, you know, physical precious metals or something without counterparty risk outside of the system.
You need to understand the dangers of what they're building.
And I don't know that political if we know if if we believe this is a selection, does it really matter if people are against it um you know on a national level i
think what really works is what we're seeing which is real solutions like senator nicely in tennessee
you know the the state the reserve system for having a gold and silver uh bank for exchange
same thing in texas making gold and silver legal tender in different states it that has momentum
that's good that's what we should get behind right now.
Exactly.
Because that's going to make it available for us to still live our lives
and still have somewhat some modicum of liberty.
And see, that's one of the things, too, when we look at this map
and all these different states saying we're going to side with Texas,
that's the important thing for people to change their focus from Washington to looking at,
well, maybe we can fix this at the state level.
I see that as the most positive thing coming out of this.
And again, you're talking about Senator Nicely, and it's not just Senator Nicely in Tennessee.
There's other people in other states throughout the South, typically, where they are looking
at this and they're realizing, hey, this whole thing is
going to just, you know, it's going to collapse.
It's a house of cards.
And we've got to do something at the state level to try to have some kind of stability.
And so you've got people at the state level, just like, you know, whatever happens with
this border thing, at least it's changing people's focus and what they look at.
It's like, yeah, let's let the states take care of this because the federal government's
not going to do it.
They didn't do it even under Trump.
And so those things are positive.
And when we talk about the CBDC thing, I remember maybe it was a year, maybe it was two years
ago when we were talking about CBDC and it was still pretty much unknown.
And, um, and it was, um, but you, you know, you'd ask people, do you support CB?
I don't know what that is.
But then if you went down and you told them step by step, all the different aspects of it, oh, they were adamantly opposed to that.
But now it's, it's gotten around enough that Trump can just throw out the term CBDC.
And that's a bone to his people.
So that's a good thing.
They know that people now understand what CBDC is.
And if you understand that term,
you certainly do understand all of those different aspects of it that are going
to be kicked into place.
So that's a good thing as well as the state's coming together on financial
issues.
That's already been happening under the radar.
And now this is in front of everybody and everybody saying,
Hmm,
maybe we should have some decentralization.
So I think that's ultimately a good thing, perhaps.
I remember speaking to Republican.
I had a couple of different talks I did from Republican groups in North Texas, and I think I did one in August of 22.
No one had heard of CBDC.
They had no idea what I was talking about.
I came back about six months later.
I started seeing some heads nod.
And since that time, I'm seeing them post about it.
So we were out front.
That's a testament to shows like yours and alternative media and people that are concerned with issues that truly matter.
You know, not the pageantry you know all of the all of this there's the wwe the
wrestling that we're seeing in so much of our politics getting all you know the the personal
slights and the partisanship that's a sideshow because what's it's cbdc it's consolidation
you know you can and again the what we're watching is the the continuation of the plans that they've put in place that we've been talking about for years, that I've been on your show talking about for years.
We got the IMF drawing up the plans, and they have introduced the Unicoin, the Bank of International Settlements, talking about uniting all of these central bank digital currencies into one clearinghouse.
They're already planning it.
So it doesn't matter that such parties against it in the U.S.
What matters is state level.
Because on the federal level, it's a top-heavy bureaucracy that, again,
the people have no say in.
I don't believe that.
I don't believe that we have a say in the federal level anymore.
I think state level, absolutely, though. And that's that's the path is decentralization just going back to the border
thing right you got um what are they going to do about it as chip roy said you know we we say we're
going to impeach mallorca for this open border thing and yet we continue to give him money
when you look at the financial side of it uh they can complain about anything that happens
financially but hey the federal reserve doesn't even need their money.
It's got its own.
It's controlling all of the money.
So Congress doesn't even have any financial control over the Federal Reserve.
And that's why it's important to do this at the state level.
And as you point out, it was only a year ago that nobody really knew what was going on with this stuff it was in the spring i think that senator nicely had me go speak to the finance
committee at the state and you know to talk to them about cbdc because they didn't really know
about it but now everybody knows about it so that's good and and now that people see governors
coming together to solve a problem they might start thinking well could they come together to
solve any other problems and what other problems might we have maybe the financial stuff which is the biggest problem and the cbd say is this is the express ticket to a mark of the beast
global system got the id and the financial controls it is the mother load as you said it's
the hill to die on yes well then 2020 had a cascading effect on people's outlook on politics
especially in places like Texas.
And I've seen that where I can go in and I'm talking in front of a Republican group.
This is not a year or so ago.
And I'm detailing some history of communism and the linkage to the Illuminati.
And they're all just nodding their head like, yeah, that's really I mean, that's how far politics have changed from the time that I ran for Congress.
I was a little I mean, obviously it's me.
So I was way outside of what was accepted in the establishment.
But especially, you know, I really turned that on too in the last 10 years.
So that people were just keeping up with me.
Absolutely.
There's a new world order.
Absolutely.
We've got to look out.
They're trying to take all national sovereignty.
Yes, there's a conspiracy.
Yeah, absolutely.
So I think people are pushing and you see Gregreg abbott who is an abject failure and an establishment hack
a carl rove guy neocon of the highest order i remember talking to uh tom pawkin who was running
for governor at the same time he didn't actually get into the primary but tom pawkin was head of
the uh young republicans uh back in the
1960s pat buchanan writes about tom in a couple of his books and i think tom had ran for center
really smart guy and i asked him what's going on with greg abbott he goes oh complete sellout carl
rove guy neocon just bought bought and paid for he told me how much money he had going in this is
2014 going into the primaries he goes i think he's got like 68 million or so.
It's some crazy number just to even start out with.
So, you know, in 2015, I saw a tweet from Greg Abbott that said it was in a mock, mocking the Dallas Cowboys.
He said, oh, that defensive line is more open than the U.S. border.
And I thought, you're a governor, the southern border.
You're the governor. You're laughing about this. Yeah, he's busting people up to martha's vineyard for
political stunts uh you know you've mentioned uh many times about him giving you know hundreds of
millions to this uh shell corporation out of frisco texas to do contact tracing and the first
thing he did with his trump funds you know was the trump funds right you know because that was
the thing all these governors brad little or republican now of course you know, because that was the thing. All these governors, Brad Little, a Republican.
Now, of course, Brad Little is part of this coalition to let's back up Texas and all this kind of stuff.
But, you know, Brad Little, he dissolved the legislature.
He's like, go away.
I don't want you getting in the way of my executive order.
Because he had money that was given him discretionary funds for him to control completely that were several times the entire budget of the state.
And so, you know, that's where that stuff rolled out.
But yeah, you're right about Greg Abbott.
He's engaged in a lot of political stuff.
And of course, this is ultimately a political thing as well.
As I was pointing out earlier, what are Biden's options?
Well, he can try to strong arm this and he can try to nationalize the National Guard.
And then what's that going to look like? Everybody agrees that this is an invasion and they're going to see him
as a traitor if he does this. So it is a shrewd political move by Abbott and by the Republicans.
I think the good thing that comes out of it, though, is regardless of whether they solve any
problems, it takes people's focus away from solely looking at the federal government and solely looking at the presidential race.
I absolutely agree.
But I will say, you know, you're right about that.
I mean, here we are in January.
It's an election year.
And lo and behold, here's the border is back, even though the border has been in crisis for years, years and years and years.
I mean, ever since I was a kid, every Republican in Texas, I'm going to close.
I'm going to we're going to secure the border, you know, over and over again.
We hear this every election.
And now it's just I mean, they're not even trying.
I mean, I'm trying to cover up the fact that they want this.
They want I call it weapons of mass immigration.
Yes, this is a way to destroy it, not only to remake the demographics of the United States, but I think it's a psychological operation as well, David, to make you feel like you have no power, that
the United States is a pitiful giant, that it can't control its borders.
I mean, it's clear the border exposes everything, whether it's COVID-1984 or whether it's the
war on terror, you know, with George W. Bush and we've got to fight them over there,
we've got to fight them over here, stupidity.
And that's where we are.
The border exposes the lie of all those things.
And it shows right now that they could solve the border issue.
When I ran for Congress, I said,
why do we have troops on the border of South Korea and not South Texas?
But when you put them there, when you put the troops there, they're just Sherpas.
They just take the, oh, I see you're traveling.
Let me take you to this holding facility.
You know, stamp your hand and you get into the, they put you on a bus and there you go.
And that's, you're a Sherpa.
You're not security.
And so that fundamentally something has to change on the state level, whether it's, you know, having it calling up the National Guard and overriding federal mandates or whatever these orders are that are keeping these troops from being able to detain. a humanitarian solution to this and maybe you have to create sort of like a dmz area where you there's
holding facilities and people that that are truly you know political refugees i mean we want to do
right by that we are still the united states of america but there has to be order to it you can't
there has to be a deterrence and there has to be deterrence and there has to be order yeah as uh
some of these pictures a lot of pictures you know of troops on their way to the border you know getting on uh planes i've showed some of those but then there was another one and
you know they were marching down a road and they just had journalists with their cameras all over
the place you know filming uh the troops but also the journalists were filming each other filming
the troops and inadvertently and uh as one pointed out, you notice they don't have any
guns, not armed for any of this stuff.
And they did have face shields on, uh, but, uh, they didn't have any, any guns.
So you don't really, again, how much of this is a pageant and how much of it is something's
really going to happen.
And I don't want to really live in a, I don't want to live in an East Berlin type of environment
either.
You know, my big concern is that this is a welfare magnet that's pulling people across.
And if, if it's, if they're not coming, uh, for money and a free stuff, if they are coming
in with, um, whatever they come in with and they're going to work hard, I'm all in favor
of that.
That's the old fashioned, uh, Ellis Island model of immigration. I'm, I'm really in favor of that. That's the old-fashioned Ellis Island model of immigration.
I'm really in favor of that. I think that is a good thing. And I think that kind of, you know,
the diversity and things like that that came out of that really were a strength. But this is not
what this is. This is Cloward and Piven. This is a welfare magnet. And this is chaos. As you pointed
out, it is demoralizing. And that's the the purpose of what Soros is doing with the
district attorneys and everything else like that just to watch people come in and loot a store
and get away with it well you were watching people come in and loot the country and get away with it
and so it is a psychological war of demoralization that is at the bottom of this I think
well I think you're right and I got the East Berlin vibes too, I guess probably a few years ago.
And I finally just said, I don't want a wall because I don't want, I think,
I think that at this point they're just building it to keep me in.
I think we can have border security.
I think it can be, again, you can save the land, the land there.
You don't have to take eminent domain.
You just have to, you can use technology, but you has to have order yeah i'm with you i i think it's good to have
people come in and and build businesses and work and and start families our advantage here in this
hemisphere is to the south of us are generally catholic people you know you've got it's still
it still has a uh western tradition built
into that so that is a positive it's just too much i mean our you know the the amount of immigration
that we have david as you know is is far surpassing anything in our history we talk about the great
waves of of migration that happened you know that when you when america was referred to as the
melting pot but it was mostly european and it was an almost never more than a
couple of hundred thousand and a year.
And then there was periods of years and years of more moratoriums of pauses to
give time, but we've just opened the floodgates.
And especially since the fall of the Soviet union,
this has been an operation.
You have a million new legal immigrants a year legal.
That's a million, uh, uh 80 of all new immigrants vote democrat
that's 800 000 new democrats a year and i'm thinking i think the republicans like that too
for whatever reason they uh they could they want more lindsey graham wanted to double it
immigration uh not too long ago at least you know he was afraid that we can't get people on the
social security rolls this is how they think yeah you know, the illegal part is unknown.
You're probably 30,
40,
50 million.
Who knows at this point.
And even the dummy George W.
Bush said,
uh,
one in 12 is a criminal across the border.
I'm like,
well,
that's an invasion.
Yeah.
And why don't you do something about it?
I mean,
I wear this,
uh,
this green wrist brand for Dominic Durden. I met his mother,
Sabina Durden, at the Federation for Americans for Immigration Reform in 2019. I had an interview
with her. She's an angel mom. She lost her son to an illegal immigrant. And I had such a,
it was such a powerful interview. I told her I'll never take it off. So I have it. I've worn it since 2019.
Every day I wear this wristband to remind me that our politicians that promise to protect us, like Greg Abbott, are absolute failures.
They're derelict in their duty.
And they get people killed because people that aren't supposed to be here because there is no rule of law.
And I don't want a lockdown country. I don't want, you know, some kind of police state.
But we can do that.
We can actually have a secure border.
You just have to have the will to do it.
I think the will is there from the people.
But what this is exposing is the larger picture of how fake our politics are.
Folks, we had fake money, fake politicians, fake news with real consequences.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, real consequences. That's yeah. Yeah, real consequences.
That's right.
Yeah, you're right.
It's not just a qualitative difference.
It is a quantitative difference that we've never seen before in this country.
And that's happening globally.
It's coming through the UN.
And, you know, people need to wake up.
People need to do something about it.
And, you know, again, Abbott is a showman uh just like all these other people you know they'll have
their show trials in uh in congress and i don't think they're going to do anything about it but
uh there is something that we can do in our personal life isn't it you know we can make
some preparations for things and uh tell people a little bit about what's going on at wise wolf
gold i saw an article on cbs financial before we went on the air and uh it was asking
which one is better uh one ounce gold bars or one gram gold bars what shouldn't you buy
and i thought well it depends how much money you have you know uh that's that's a good there's 31
grams in a in a troy ounce of gold depends on if you're european or I guess, whether you get an ounce or a gram, right? Correct.
There's a, there's a demand for both. And I think a lot of the people that there's something about the gold industry and especially
the one 800 numbers.
I got a one 800 number, but I'm not a national brand per se.
I'm not, I'm not, he's one of those you hear is I'm not ubiquitous with a bullpen full
of traders.
I think what you're watching is people are starting to buy physical gold. These articles
are popping up and people just think they can't afford it. It's one of the reasons I started
Wolfpack. You can go to davidknight.gold. You can, there's a tab that says join Wolfpack. It's the,
I did the inverse of what every other gold dealer and national brand has done. I went after people and I'm across the board. We do hide
big transactions too, but I wanted to talk to the people that were the $50 a month,
the $125 a month, like people that need, they need to save, they want to stack, but they're like,
I call, you know, there's not the guys that disappointed. I don't have 10,000. We're not,
you can come see us and we'll actually get you access to things like gold backs
you know the the 24 karat gold notes we can put those in the in even the lowest package the lowest
tier uh but the the article's talking about gram you pay more you pay a high premium whenever you
fractionalize physical gold so one of the things i did with Wolfpack was because of the amount of people that joined, I buy sheets like the hundred gram sheets of one gram gold bars.
They're all connected.
I have my crew put on a little white gloves and they just take each piece and break it apart and we individually package it.
So we save you that premium, do a comparison invoice.
So instead of paying $100, $100, $203 plus shipping for a gram bar of gold, we get it down to 84, you know, some somewhere in there.
So you get, you get to save that premium.
So there's, there's ways for you to buy fractional gold, uh, without paying too much premium.
And again, there's ways for you to buy gold.
You don't have to buy a bar, you know, in a bar gold right now is over $2,100.
You don't have to do that. You can just
buy pieces of it at a time. And that's, that's been my mission at Wolfpack. Yes, we do every,
we do IRA rollovers and 401k rollovers. We do big transactions. But I, I really enjoyed growing the,
even the Wolf Cup aspect is 35 a month for kids. I was able to put in some free wheat pennies. I bought some
wheat pennies the other day. I had a big stack of them. I remember those. Yeah. Wheat pennies
are fun. And they're copper. Any penny before 1982 is copper because the copper, it became
more expensive than the penny. And that's why we just have base metals. I mean, history is full of
these stories, David, of the empires when it starts to decline. See, great empires this is you know history is full of these stories david of the m the
empires when it starts to decline see great empires as you know they rise on sound money
they rise on manufacturing and production and they decline on fiat currency and free trade now we
don't mean free trade like not free markets but these agreements where you know what we've done
is we put american workers in some sort of of Darwinian contest survival of the fittest with, with
countries with no regulation and slave labor, you know, and that's what we've done. And we,
and we incentivize corporations to do that. That's what I'm referring to with free trade.
So we're in the decline phase, unfortunately. And again, we go back to our earlier in our
conversation. What does that mean for you?
Well, the wealthiest people, you know, they continue to become wealthy and wealthy because they're buying up all the assets.
And those of us who are chasing the green pieces of paper, trying to keep the lights on, it's harder to do that.
So one of the ways that you can do that, just get out of, or at least to the best of your ability.
There is a war on cash.
I'm not telling you to have no cash, but you should deal in silver, deal in gold,
have some physical gold and silver.
Go to DavidKnight.gold.
It's easy to do.
My crew, we're learning more and more every day
how to make the systems better and get orders out faster.
So please go to DavidKnight.gold.
And it supports David too.
And it's a great thing.
You know, we were talking about the Wolfpack,
getting that quantity discount without having to buy a massive quantity because you're doing it as a group.
And that's been one of the main selling points we were talking earlier about, the ETFs.
Main selling point of the ETF are the paper gold and paper silver.
Well, you can get a fraction of an ounce.
You don't have to buy so much of it at a time.
But the increment that you're offering is much less.
You still get a quantity discount.
And what I found out, I saw the ETF paper gold and paper silver.
I realized when gold started moving around, it's like, wait a minute, these things aren't tracking.
What's the matter with that?
And then I started doing my investment.
It's like, maybe they don't have any gold that's really there.
Maybe they're using this to manipulate the market, that type of thing.
But again, that was one of the major, um, uh,
reasons for them to have an ETF. It's probably one of the major selling points for them doing a
Bitcoin ETF is to fractionalize it, but people can get in and small amounts, as you pointed out,
and still have something that is physical, that's private. And, um, and that's going to be the key
thing. I think as we move forward that, uh, you know, financial privacy that is they're working
so hard to get rid of. We've got to preserve that. Thank you so much, Tony, for coming on.
It's always great talking to you. And we have you on a Friday now instead of on a on a Thursday.
So we'll try it. We'll try for Thursdays. I just I didn't want to.
Any day of the week is fine. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, that's great. Thank you so much. I know
you're very busy. Thank you for taking the time to come on and talk with us.
And thank you for your support.
I appreciate it.
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