The David Knight Show - INTERVIEW Will Tank Tactics Fail in Ukraine? The Plan for WW3
Episode Date: February 3, 2023Joel Skousen, WorldAffairsBrief.com, talks details on the equipment and tactics in Ukraine and the long term strategy of US, Russia and China. And what can YOU do to protect yourself by strategic relo...cation, securing your home and shelter at JoelSkousen.com Find out more about the show and where you can watch it at TheDavidKnightShow.com If you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here:SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-showOr you can send a donation through Mail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @DavidKnightShow@protonmail.comCash App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Money is only what YOU hold: Go to DavidKnight.gold for great deals on physical gold/silverBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.
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Joining us now is Joel Skousen.
You can find him at world affairs brief.com.
And that is an excellent source of information and nobody knows what's going
on.
Follows it more closely than Joel Skousen does.
Thank you for joining us,
Joel.
It's always good to be with you, David.
Thank you.
Let's talk about, first of all, it's been a lot of developments.
Things are happening very quickly in Ukraine.
We now see in the headlines just yesterday,
it was 200,000 troops are amassing by the Russians,
and then the Ukrainians say 500,000.
Is it 200,000? Is it 500,000? Is that happening? The fog of war? What is really going on in your opinion?
Well, it's very hard to say. I rely primarily on the Brits at russi.com, which really is a very
good non-globalist, intelligence outfit that has access to british intelligence
and some american intelligence uh but it's it's you really can't tell what the russians say or
what the ukrainians are you can't take it you know for face value because a lot of propaganda
on both sides that's right there's there's no way that the russians could be amassing 500 000. they already committed of the 300 000 they committed a hundred
thousand of the new conscripts untrained into the battle and most of those have met their fate
and have been killed so that leaves about 200 000 that they did give extensive training to at least
whatever they could do in the battlefield conditions there in Ukraine.
And, you know, you've got the Wagner Group that still has about 50,000 or 60,000, you know, top-line fighters, but that's it from what the Russians have.
So, you know, we're looking at a maximum of about 300,000, which is what they started the original invasion with. And according to,
you know, Russian sources, Putin is demanding the same three-pronged attack like they tried
at the first, with Belarus coming out, Russian troops and equipment towards Kyiv,
and then Crimea coming out of the south to attack the southern flank of Odessa. And then the Russians breaking out of their defensive positions in the Donbass to attack frontal assault with the Ukrainian troops opposing them, etc.
And there's apparently a little bit of a rebellion among the Russian generals that they don't feel like this is going to work any more than it did at first especially if the
us gets their new you know main battle tanks into ukraine which could take at least three months
and that means it won't be a winter offensive it would have to be a spring offensive after the uh
the ground gets solid again starting in february when you start to have some thaw, really into March, you know, the ground gets really soft and won't support tank warfare.
And so it's really a little too late now for the Russians to start a winter warfare across the frozen ground,
because in the middle of it, you'd get rain starting to come and you get bogged down so i think both russian and british intelligence say the russians will
wait until the ground solidifies in april may most likely may which gives a chance for the west to
get their main battle tanks into ukraine and it's looking like most of those are going to be leopard
two tanks from germany and other NATO countries.
You know, one squadron of Challenger tanks, 14 Challenger 2 tanks are coming in,
and then the U.S. is shipping about 31 Abrams M1 tanks, but they have to wait until they get the depleted uranium armor stripped off the U.S. versions of those tanks,
so they won't be coming out of the tank crews in Germany, the U.S. versions of those tanks. So they won't be coming out of the tank crews in Germany,
the U.S. tank crews in Germany.
They have to be shipped from the United States
because this is top-secret armor that the U.S. has
on the Abrams tanks with depleted uranium.
And they don't want those to get in the hands of the Russians.
Well, they don't have the armor.
They're going to be somewhat a great deal more vulnerable, of course. But I covered a couple of days ago, a retired Lieutenant Colonel whose specialty was tank forces. And he was saying, you know, first of all, we're looking at months, I don't know, three months, six months before they get the tanks. And he said, nobody's going to know how to use them. You got to train in these things. So what is going to happen with that?
Is that going to be a further delay in addition to the delivery of the tanks
before anybody can really use it?
That was his point.
Yeah.
They're already training Ukrainian crews in Poland on Leopard 2 tanks,
and that's going to be providing the bulk of tank warfare.
They're also training in terms of the verbal learning,
the systems in the Challenger tanks and the Abrams tanks in NATO countries as well. So they're
already doing the training. It's just a problem. You've got to get your supply chains established
because there are parts that have to be replaced and maintenance and other things. Now,
the Challenger 2 is probably the most reliable tank, main battle tank in the West. And it could probably survive
out there without maintenance problems for a month or two. But after that, you know, you've
got real problems. The U.S. Abrams tank has a turbine, gas turbine engine. And so it's not a
diesel engine. It's going to be very difficult to do any maintenance
on those they'll have to be shipped back out of and replaced with other new gas turbines so the
abrams is a real problem the leopard 2 and the challenger are not so much of a problem because
the parts pipeline is already in europe for both of those whereas there isn't an extensive abrams
2 pipeline in europe except for american forces here
and they don't have a lot of extras to ship out to ukraine so that looks like that's a bit of a
problem his main point that what the lieutenant colonel was saying was uh not even the equipment
and not even you know having a few months training uh to understand the equipment but he said
the real issue is knowing how to use them strategically, maneuvers, tactics,
that type of thing.
He says that takes years to learn that,
especially if you're going to go on offense.
And it appears that that is really the purpose of this,
to try to dislodge Russians from where they are.
He says offensive is completely different from defense,
and they have absolutely no training and can't possibly know how to do
that. He said, we do that for years before we put people out there. Yeah, he's absolutely correct
about that. The United States and NATO practices combined arms warfare, and then it's combining
tank maneuvers with infantry, and you've got to protect tanks with infantry that have anti-tank
shoulder-fired missiles to protect them against other tanks, etc. You've got to protect tanks with infantry that have anti-tank shoulder-fired
missiles to protect them against other tanks Etc you've got to have combined air power to
shield those tanks and to blast your way through and he's absolutely right the Ukrainians don't
have that won't have that and so they'll be relegated to um Israeli type tank warfare, which is to maneuver with speed, being able to fire on the move,
which our tanks can do much better than the Soviet tanks, and to do it at night,
where you don't use some of the same combined warfare. The US and NATO tanks have really good
infrared warfighting systems that they can see in the dark.
They can see the heat signatures of these other tanks, and the Russian older tanks don't have
hardly any of that, so they don't fight at night. But the Israelis have been able to,
you know, develop a doctrine where you use tank warfare alone and still win against the arabs with their
t-72 tanks and t-80 tanks so uh they still can be effective they just won't be as effective
as if the main battle tanks were in western hands and of course um you know their their newer tanks they have uh they have a longer range as well besides the night vision stuff, right,
than the Soviet tanks? That's right. They can out distance in their firing the other tanks,
and that's the strategy the Israelis use with their Merkava tanks is they could shoot out to
three kilometers and kill other tanks, and the Russian tanks had to get within a kilometer to
make a kill. So they couldn't even get close
without being hit. So the Israelis won in several of those wars, 100 tanks versus three or 400
tanks just because of these tactics. Now, the Russians are dug in very deeply in Eastern
Ukraine and the Ukrainians intend to mount an attack and punch through those lines with these
new tanks which they can do and then come around the back and uh and and surround troops and uh so
that they're fighting both front and rear which would be very difficult the Russians could try
to thwart that with air attacks but the trouble trouble is the U.S. has supplied such sophisticated
anti-aircraft weaponry to the Ukraine that the Russians don't dare fly close air support
in a battle. They can launch, their only effective strategy is to launch far away with long-range
missiles. And those are only effective against Ukrainian aircraft.
So if you keep the aircraft on the ground and don't fight this as an aircraft war
and threaten the Russian aircraft with short-range missiles over the battlefield,
then it will be just a tank warfare and not combined air tactics
that require this level of training.
And I always enjoy the level of detail because the devil is in the detail.
You know, we can talk about the big picture and the strategy,
and we will talk about that coming up.
But it's one of the things I like about you, Joel,
is that you've got so much detail about the equipment.
And it's fascinating.
But at the same time, you know, again, going back to the retired lieutenant colonel saying that he thought that it was not going to be, in his opinion, a very effective strategy, that it was going to be mainly be a provocation to the Russians who are already everything that we're doing seems to validate their fears and their anxieties that NATO's purpose is to take Russia apart.
This is what people like Alexander Dugan have been saying for a long time.
And it seems to be fulfilling all of their worst concerns.
So he sees it primarily just as an escalation.
And Biden said a year ago when this
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But he said, no, we're not going to send tanks.
We're not going to send jets. He said that'd be World War
III. So
what do you think is going to be the,
and immediately after Ukraine got the authorization for the tanks, they immediately started saying,
well, we want planes now. So is this something that is rapidly escalating into World War III?
Many of us have been saying it's World War III already.
Well, I don't believe it is escalating to World War III because World War III
cannot be fought without nuclear
weapons. And Russia doesn't dare use their top-of-the-line nuclear weapons against the West
as long as they don't have the capacity in the conventional military to occupy.
That's why I've said for a long time in my analysis, they have to wait for China. China
does have the manpower, the Blue Water Navy, it's the largest navy in the world now,
to ship troops around and control other countries once you nuke them.
If you nuke the military and you can't occupy, then you simply wait for them to rebuild and they come back after you.
And so that's why Putin has not made good on any of his nuclear threats and won't, in my opinion,
because it's premature.
China is not backing Russia and Ukraine.
China, in fact, thinks Russia made a mistake and antagonized the West early because China has always said, let's wait till we're ready,
and then we'll throw a joint nuclear attack on Western military targets
and then blackmail them into submission and avoid a destructive World War III.
The West knows that.
They want that preemptive nuclear strike in order to talk Americans finally into joining
a militarized global government, which Americans don't want and wouldn't ever want unless
you provoke them with a Pearl Harbor, even worse than Pearl Harbor, a nuclear preemptive
strike on U.s military forces
if our forces are decapitated it's easy for our leaders to come out of the bunkers and say you
know we didn't know this was going to happen but now that it has we have to join with other
non-communist countries in a militarized global government and in fact in today and friday's
tomorrow's world affairs brief i am covering i guess it'll be today when we broadcast this interview.
Today's World Affairs Brief will cover the fact that the Britons have specifically denigrated their own military while secretly giving millions of pounds to the EU to finance a new EU army. In other words, this has to be factored into the thing is that this EU army is meant to
replace NATO and is meant, I think, to be the seed stock of the new militarized global government
that will start when World War II, when World War III starts. But it has to wait for China to be
ready. And China has even admitted we won't be ready until about 2027,
which is just in the middle point of when I've always said this war is at greatest risk in the
latter half of this decade when Russia and China will both be ready to attack the West.
Just in time for the 2030, you know, we said everything for the 2030.
Let me go to, and one of the reasons that will motivate that war to happen before 2030 is that the U.S. is going to build a new ballistic missile system to replace the antiquated 1950s Minuteman III missiles, which have had their three warheads removed and replaced with a single warhead.
So Russia has about 10,000 warheads on missiles and we have 400.
So this is not a fair fight.
And that's part of the reason why the U.S., you know, is going to let those missiles be struck because it will take about three warheads on each of the 400 silos that the U.S. has and use up about 1,200 of the Russian and Soviet missiles just killing our relatively useless Minuteman III missiles.
You mentioned the EU army, and I want to go back to that.
That was something that was denigrated as a conspiracy theory
when the Brexiters were talking about that.
And then right after Brexit and the election passed,
they said, we're going to get out of the EU. Then it came immediately. They admitted, yeah, we're working on an EU army. Let's talk a little
bit about that. You said the UK is denigrating its forces. I thought this is a bizarre, humorous
article talking about, and it came out of the Sun in the UK. Uh, the defense minister there, Ben Wallace is very upset about the fact.
That they found that they, that a subcontractor was doing repairs
on a nuclear sub with a super glue.
And some of the cooling stuff that came off, they just super glued it on.
And it was discovered by accident.
This thing is running four years, over uh the schedule and 370 million
dollars over budget sounds just like our military but um they're downsizing their military drastically
almost uh making it disappear i think we got more uh police officers in new york city that they do
and their army i don't know that i don't know exact numbers, but it's
approaching that. They just cut another 10,000 troops in Britain as well. And they're also
killing the British military industrial complex by not giving them any contracts.
And so what's really happening, I think this is the British version of what the U.S. is planning
on absorbing a nuclear first strike. The British version is when that nuclear strike hits the Trident missile base in Scotland,
for example, which is their main deterrent against the strike.
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And I think they'll be under the same, you know, absorb a nuclear strike dictate that we're under PDD 60, which is still in force.
That's presidential decision directive 60 in 1997 that instructed our nuclear forces, you will be instructed to absorb a nuclear first strike and retaliate afterwards, not launch on warning. And launch on warning, of course, is the most important strategy because when our satellites
detect a missile launch from Russia and China, those missiles are targeting something already.
And if we launch, their missiles hit empty silos and our missiles then hit live targets.
So launching on warning is a very powerful strategy. And by
eliminating that from our US arsenal, we set ourselves up, it invites a nuclear first strike.
Let's talk about- I'm sorry, go ahead. Go ahead.
I might say that even our anti-nuclear lobby doesn't realize or has long forgotten about PDD-60 because it was still, it's been top secret ever
since 1997. And Bruce Blair, a big anti-nuclear fanatic in the mainstream, came out and said,
you know, what Biden needs to do in revamping our nuclear policy is to eliminate launch on warning.
And I said-
I didn't know it's already gone. It's already gone.
And I,
I,
I,
I emailed,
um,
the disarmament people at,
uh,
Federation of American scientists and other things.
And I said,
you know,
do you have information that PDD 60 has been overruled?
You know,
that already eliminates what's Bruce Blair talking about?
And the guy wrote back and said,
what's PDD 60. talking about and the guy wrote back and said what's pdd60
nobody talks about that really but you yeah i mean most people don't know it's there
it's been so secret for so long that even the disarmament lobby's forgotten about it
and thinking they have to do it all over again so but this is a very insidious strategy
and i don't believe as i say we're going to have nuclear war until they're ready to
do this preemptive strike.
And it won't be just launching one missile and taking out London or something.
That would be a provocation that would require a response from the public.
But when you hit all of our nuclear bases in a preemptive strike, it uses up most of
their missiles.
And it does drive Americans into
throwing them and say, what do we do now? And our government will have the answer. That's what,
you know, this Pearl Harbor type strategy is, is provoke the U.S. into something and mandate
the solution, etc. But now you might ask, how does the West intend to win a war when you
allow a preemptive nuclear strike
on your military forces well i think the answer you know as i may have discussed in one of our
earlier interviews is is putting up space-based interceptors in space so that you can hit any
further missiles in other words to deca to stop the blackmail you have to be able to say, no, we're not going to let you take over.
Go ahead and try to nuke us and then be able to hit their missiles in the boost phase
before they release their warheads. And then you can destroy the missiles.
And you can only do that from space, of course. And when General Mattis at the Booz Allen
annual financial conference told the attendants, you'd be surprised how many trillions we have going into space that aren't on the budget.
I think he's referring to top secret offensive or defensive weapons in space,
the brilliant pebbles and other things that were talked about by Dan Graham in the Reagan administration,
which they said they never built.
But I believe that has been built.
Because the West would not do this PDD-60 and absorb a nuclear,
unless they had some strategy to stop any further attacks from occurring
once they decided to fight back.
Unless they have gone full suicidal.
But let's talk about early strikes and that type of thing.
We just had, and you talked about this on worldaffairsbrief.com
russians sent a as kind of a provocation or you know uh they sent a ship off the east coast
that had hypersonic missiles on it first of all how long would it take for a hypersonic
missile to reach a target and is that just uh one warhead on a hypersonic missile would that
just be
something that you said would be a provocation taking out a city or something like that but how
long would that take and and is it just a single uh warhead on it well you know if they were let's
say you know um 50 miles outside of the 12 mile limit 50 miles off the coast and they sent a
hypersonic it would be up there in washington dc in about
you know 15 minutes so it doesn't give you much uh much warning time we're talking about you know
mach 5 for it to get up to speed but you know it's a limited small warhead that'll fit on a
hypersonic missile this is not something that's even going to take out the whole city of washington
dc it's a point target weapon and how many missiles would they have on that maybe 20 so 20 targets it would just cause a
hornet's nest it wouldn't decapitate the us or stop them from retaliating and that's why it's
foolish i said when i heard that you know this is not the beginning of a nuclear confrontation
this is just more saber rattling uh you know, to deter the West from beating up Ukraine.
The Ukraine war is really a deciding factor in the Russian military strategy because it has embarrassed them.
It's put Putin in a very untenable position where opposition is going to him, especially a lot
of military people that don't keep going in Ukraine, where you're embarrassing us.
It's hard to tell because we hear that and they haven't been able to finish the job,
if you will.
They're kind of a stalemate there.
And we hear that Putin, there's internal things that are happening there.
The knives are out for him.
We've got generals and other people who are being defenestrated,
things like that.
And yet the U.S. and Europe is desperate to escalate this with tanks and jets.
So, you know, there's this, again, the fog of war.
What can you believe?
I mean, how does that, if he's struggling and embarrassing them and having this opposition
internally, and I'm sure there's an element of truth to all those things, and yet they're
very concerned about putting these weapons there.
But that's essentially because they're going on offense. Is that weapons there, but that's essentially because
they're going on offense. Is that correct? Yeah, that's right. The Ukrainians have to
go on offense to drive the Russians out. Otherwise, if it's just a drawn-out stalemate,
the U.S. and the NATO is going to run out of weapons to give Ukraine, and it's not going to
end. And that would be very embarrassing for the West to let Ukraine fall on this.
Let me go back to some of the beginning rationale for this war, because conservatives have bought into a lot of disinformation about this.
And I understand that because I'm an anti-globalist myself.
And so people wonder, why are you defending Ukraine war?
Because the globalists are for this and you shouldn't be for anything the globalists are for.
Well, it's a little more complicated than that. It is true that the globalists did a lot of warmongering based upon 9-11 and starting a phony war on terror in order to excuse invading
Iraq and Afghanistan, which turned out to be disasters. It was not justified. They had nothing
to do with 9-11. 9-11 was a deep state operation from beginning to end in order to justify intervention in other countries um part of this was to build
as globalists part of this was to build a reputation of the us as the bully of the world
to help hand russia and china the excuse to attack us someday remember that the globalists have been
building russia and china and giving them weapons
and technology for decades we brought we brought the communists to power we gave them 20 million
dollars jacob schiff did you know to um the russians and the british gave another 20 million
dollars to finance the revolution we cut off military aid to the white Russians so that the Bolsheviks could win.
We brought Mao Tse-Tung to power
by cutting off military aid to Chiang Kai-shek.
We brought Castro to power
by cutting off military aid to Batista.
We brought the Sandinistas to power in Nicaragua
by cutting off military aid to Somoza.
So you see, conservatives don't start from the beginning
to see that the globalists, it's been a one-way street.
You know, the Birch Society has made the mistake of saying, well, the globalists, because Rothschilds meet with Putin and other things, that they're all in this together and it's a single conspiracy.
It is not.
It's a one-way street from the globalists building two enemies because they need another war to finally get us into a global
government. That was the purpose of World War I. That was the purpose of World War II. We got the
United Nations, but it had no military or taxing or regulatory power. We need one more war to do
that. And that's why they've been building these enemies. Now, as I predicted years ago, before
this war, they have to stop and turn against Russia and China so they
don't get blamed for building these enemies and that's what they've done that's why they're
turning against Russia because they know it's ready it's got the nuclear missiles to strike
now we need to play the role of turning against it so that we don't get blamed for the war that's why
and and to a certain extent,
this is an important strategy from the globalist position.
They need to weaken Russia's conventional war strength
because then it guarantees that Russia has to wait for China
to strike the war on the West.
If Russia were able to have the conventional military
to occupy Europe and strike at the same time,
this war might become earlier than what they wanted to come. It is weakening Russia tremendously,
and that's why there is a purpose. Now, there are no good actors in this. The globalists are
not our friends. The Russians and Chinese are not our friends. And that's the mistake that
Ron Paul makes, stating he doesn't believe that Russia and China are our our friends. And that's the mistake that Ron Paul makes, you know, stating he doesn't believe
that Russia and China are our enemies.
He thinks because they're globalists against them,
they must be good guys
or they must at least be innocent.
And that's a very gross mistake.
And part of that comes from having bought in
to the notion of the fall of the Soviet Union.
That was a carefully crafted deception.
The Russians, the communists never did fall. They went underground. That was a carefully crafted deception. The Russians,
the communists never did fall. They went underground. They ordered the wall to come down. They ordered all of this to happen. And Putin is the follow-on to Yeltsin in that
conspiracy. And he did intend to strike Ukraine to start to reconstitute the Soviet Union prior
to World War III. And that's why the West is sticking
their sword in that to stop him from reconstituting. They went along with the phony fall, by the way.
Christopher Story in the UK and myself were the only two analysts that told the nation and the
world that this was a fake fall, that it never happened. He's now dead and they turned against
him and I'm still alive and
still telling people that it's a fall. But conservatives need to know that so that they
know that Putin is not a true Christian. He's faking it. He talks about going up against the
West to preserve Christianity, to stop this transgender and gay stuff. And that rings dear
to conservatives' hearts, but he's faking it.
This is a KGB colonel.
They never let a Christian become a KGB colonel.
That's right.
They never let a Christian, you know, be in charge of the—
I see him as kind of a Michael Flynn.
You know, when they're going out there and, you know,
Michael Flynn is giving the hand of congratulation to the Navy SEAL Kristenisten beck back in 2014. i mean he's on the
front end of pushing all this stuff and now you know he's uh he's posturing that way it's very
easy for somebody to wrap themselves in a christian flag but but let's talk about um uh let
me just before we go let me just finish you know russia has stated his rationale that you know
we don't want Ukraine joining NATO,
and that's why it's a threat to our sovereignty.
But remember that several years ago, when Georgia had requested NATO membership and Ukraine,
the NATO membership said, no, we're not going to allow that because we revere Russians' fears about sovereignty if we let them join NATO.
And what was the result?
Two months later, Russia invaded Georgia to stop it from going over to the West.
So, you see, even though NATO refused membership to Georgia, they still invaded it anyway.
And that's what I'm saying.
That was an excuse that Russia gave. Remember, they've got the Baltic states on their border. It isn't
if Ukraine would be the only NATO country right on its border. The Baltics are right there with
a border with Russia. And in fact, as I've long stated, the Russians, before the phony fall of
the Soviet Union, moved in hundreds of thousands of Russians into the Baltic countries, and they
put the Donbass into the borders of
Ukraine and Crimea into Ukraine so that they would have an excuse to take it back by force
by claiming, as they did, that the Russians feel threatened by the Western Ukraine. That's why the
Russians are in the Baltics, so that they can feel threatened someday, and they will have agent
provocateurs creating threats against them that they can justify that thing so conservatives don't have enough information about the background
of the cold war to understand what's going on in russia they're not the good guys now neither are
our side Ukraine is corrupt but remember that corruption is left over from the soviet union
because when the soviet union did their ph fall, they never did eliminate any of the communist bureaucrats in the government.
In Ukraine, in Romania, in Poland, all of those still had the communists accepting bribes, etc.
And so the corruption in Ukraine is endemic to a holdover from the Soviet days.
In fact, all of the prime ministers until Zelensky, who is corrupt
morally, but at least he's not a Putin puppet. All of the previous prime ministers, including
Timoshenko, the great nationalist of Ukraine, was a Putin puppet and made themselves wealthy
through corruption once they were in power. Let me ask you this in terms of, you know,
things that have been pre-positioned, pre-agreed, pre-arranged.
We just had Alexei Arestovich.
I don't know if you're familiar with him, but, you know, he was the guy that just got kicked out because he said,
yeah, that building that was hit with a Russian missile, that's because we shot the missile, the cruise missile,
and it fell on the building, and so they kicked him out for that but more interesting is a clip that i played
several times on the show of arestovich that was back in 2019 zielinski had campaigned on a
a promise of peace and after they got elected in 2019,
they had Arestovich, who's one of his ministers,
as a matter of fact, he was the guy who was representing them in the peace talks,
go on to Ukrainian TV and they said,
so we're going to have peace already?
This war has been going on, the civil war,
for five years.
He said, no, it's not going to be any peace.
It's going to get worse.
And he said, in three years, in 2022,
we will be at war with Russia.
And he said, in three years, in 2022, we will be at war with Russia. And she says, and he said, and the country will be completely destroyed.
And she said, that's horrible.
And he goes, no, the good thing is we get into NATO.
But he predicted, you know, three years from now, we're going to be in a full-on war.
I mean, from the perspective of these guys and Zelensky, who is, you know, he's got shell corporations and villas all over the world
the kind of corruption that is happening there and there's a lot of it a lot of it has just
come to light that they had to publicly do something about what what is going on in your
opinion there in Ukraine that they would have an agreement that this is going to all happen
in three years that Russia would attack in three years? In the first place, that was a disinformation put out by the Russians about Zelensky's villas
all over the world. That did not come from a Ukrainian source. I talked about that in the
World Affairs Brief. It's not been confirmed by anything else at all other than that Russian
source who had obviously a motive to discredit.
Now, I'm not defending Zelensky as a nice person.
He obviously was involved in some weird social media type of things when he was an entertainer that had gay and homosexual overtones, etc.
And I don't vouch for the guy.
But from what I can tell.
It seems to be pretty phony and always wearing military fatigues.
And of course, while he's wearing military fatigues,
his wife is doing a shopping spree, you know,
$40,000 in Paris in one hour, according to someone who worked there.
I don't know. Is that disinformation youinformation you think well i haven't heard that story i did check out you know this is the the billion dollar
stories and that turned out to be you know from a purely russian disinformation source but
what i'm saying is is that um
you you can't vouch for honesty in any of these former Soviet states.
Lech Walesa was a communist agent even as he was pretending to be a pro-liberty labor union leader.
Václav Havel was a Soviet agent pretending to be a Western.
This is a very sophisticated form of conspiracy.
All I know is that the Ukrainian people in Western Ukraine do
not deserve to live under an extension of the phony fall of the Soviet Union. They don't deserve
that. Their leaders have always been corrupt. And, you know, like in the United States, what power
do we have to oust our own corrupt leaders? We just don't have the power anymore, and neither
do the Ukrainians. Now,
I know a lot of Ukrainians. I've had one that left Ukraine in this war and came out and was living
next door to me. And they don't know a lot of things any more than Americans know how deep the
conspiracy runs. Ukrainians don't know that. They know there's corruption, because they know they
have to pay a bribe every time they have to go get something in public
yeah but it's it's it's a very complex situation and that's why I say the only thing that matters to me is that we need to be very realistic about the fact that we're headed for World War III it's
not going to be subliminal you know it is it's not a single conspiracy we're dealing with multiple
conspiracies they're fighting and i think they're satanic led i think yeah the fact that these
conspiracies have been going on for hundreds of years no single human being could direct that
you long be dead he'd long been it has to be revelatory from satan directing these people
uh and it's it's really truly ins. And unfortunately, we find our morality in this
country is going down. I think we're losing the protections of the Lord. I think we're going to
reap the whirlwind. And that's why I spend as much of my time analyzing foreign affairs as I do
helping people prepare, because I think we're going to have to survive a nuclear first strike
and an EMP strike on this nation. Oh, I absolutely agree.
Let's talk about a little bit more about China because there's been some very interesting
public statements made, or at least they were made public.
I don't know if they intended to be public, but they put them out in orders and the orders
were published.
We've had high-ranking naval officers.
We've had high-ranking Air Force generals saying things like, you know,
get your affairs in order, you know,
get your last will and testament in order because of China.
Another one saying essentially the same thing.
I think we're going to be at war with China in at least a year or two.
You know, they had a little bit sooner timeframe than you had.
So what is that all about?
Well, that's because the insiders in China
know that China's been itching to take Taiwan back. And it's kind of a test to see how far
they can get away with. It's like Hitler invading Poland, the final test, or Czechoslovakia to test
the world. The West failed there. And so he invaded Poland thinking he could take that
without retaliation. The West finally did. Taiwan is a linchpin for red China. And I think they wanted to take it last year. They were
showing all the signs. They were doing all of these invasive aerial attacks, or not attacks,
but invasions of the militarized zone in Taiwan. Massive flyovers. Massive flyovers. And of course,
they're testing and using and wearing out to Taiwanese
jets and equipment, checking their radar signatures, planning so they can tell how
to jam those things. That's really the purpose of those feints that occur.
I fully did expect that they were going to plan sometime last fall to attack Taiwan,
but they got destabilized by biden twice claiming that
u.s military would intervene and he had to be overruled he misspoke he he had to be overruled
by the white house and the national security council because that's not u.s policy u.s policy
is to let the attack happen and not to intervene but it destabilized the Chinese. They weren't sure now, you know, if in fact,
and that's, you know, the U.S.
It was a brilliant move by Biden, right? He just kind of walked into it.
But it destabilized, you know, and sometimes, you know, as a God-fearing person, I sometimes
believe the Lord allows certain things to destabilize, to prolong something that Satan wants to do in order to give us more time to prepare. And that may be one of
those things, and gave Taiwan more time. And they're busy preparing, and the U.S. is shoveling
some weapons their way as well. Well, you know, God has spoken through the mouth of an ass,
and he's spoken through many asses since then right but you know taiwan could be a trigger event if in fact the u.s military does intervene because
kim jong-un of north korea has said if the u.s intervenes to stop taiwan in a military
confrontation we will attack the u.s and south k South Korea in retaliation with nuclear weapons.
And if they attack South Korea with their overwhelming force, the US would have to
retaliate or intervene because we have, what, 27,000 troops there. We have to intervene. We
cannot let them die in an overwhelming communist attack. That could trigger World War III,
because North Korea is a puppet state of China, and China wants it as a trigger because they can blame it on the crazy guy in North Korea. He didn't want to start this, but he started it,
and the U.S. retaliated, so we're an ally of North Korea. We've got to retaliate, and that could be
the trigger event for a strike on U.S. military targets. So we're an ally of North Korea. We've got to retaliate. And that could be the trigger event for a strike on U.S. military targets. So a lot depends on whether or not the
U.S. will intervene in Taiwan. And there is an expectation now that Biden has mistakenly spoke
twice. There's an expectation in the American public that we should, especially since we're
defending Ukraine now against a Russian aggression
and so this could bring on World War III earlier however China won't if if it's going to be tied
to World War III China may delay taking Taiwan until they want to trigger World War III
and they're not ready yet that's my point they're not ready yet they still
need to build more aircraft carriers they still need to build more missile systems uh to launch
into this they're the kind of the backup the russians are going to do the first strike they've
got enough to do the entire first strike but china's missiles will be used for secondary if you know against the West if the U.S. doesn't
submit to blackmail after the first nuclear strike so go ahead I'm just saying this is a very nip
and tuck world nobody you know the Air Force General who came out and said the Chinese are
going to attack in 2025 he said I don't want to make too much of that because this is just
a gut feeling i've got he had no intelligence to back that up he just feels like within two years
we're going to be a war with china he could very well be right not because he has any intelligence
based to it but i'm thinking strategically in terms of china why would they want to take on
the west unless they're really fully up to speed
militarily to battle a high-tech military like the U.S.?
And I don't think they're going to strike too early.
The Chinese are very, very smart.
They're very, very ruthless.
But I'll tell you this, the world is never going to be the same after World War III.
It's not going to be like World War II where you go back to normal afterwards.
That's right.
Yeah, let's talk about the preparation because that's a key thing.
I always want to get you on to talk about that.
First of all, you've got a couple of books.
You've got Strategic Relocation talking about the places that are safer
because they're, you know, for various reasons,
maybe not close to a nuclear target or also because you'll be able to get out of cities or get out into the rural areas
better than you can in certain other areas. And you also have a book about how to prepare
yourself and prepare your home to protect from civil unrest, but also from nuclear attacks and
that type of thing from fallout and that type type of stuff tell us a little bit about uh strategic relocation i know so many people are relocating to florida because uh they saw things
opening up there that has been one of your places as the worst place to live hasn't it yeah it's a
zero rated state because it's a peninsula and it's only got two major roads out of that it's going to
be locked in you know as in what happened in Katrina, you know, people
get on the freeways and it was gridlock and running out of gas.
It's just very, very difficult to get out of Florida and in a grid down situation, you
don't want to be in a hot, humid country where it's filled with insects and things.
Difficult to live without air conditioning.
I know I grew up there before air conditioning, and I was itching
to get up further up into Tennessee for the longest time because of all that. You're absolutely right.
That's right. But, you know, you never want to make a relocation decision based upon current
conditions. You know, you have a great governor there, Governor DeSantis, who's done a lot of
the right things. He didn't initially, by the way, you know, he turned out to be kind of like Donald Trump
reading the tea leaves and seeing that this is a political thing, a course that I can
ride.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's very clever.
You know, he doesn't want to get too far into attacking.
He'll attack the vaccines, but only go so far.
And he doesn't want to really investigate it.
He'll shove that off to a third party and actually to like a fourth party,
asking the Supreme Court if they'll permit a grand jury to be there.
He doesn't want to take it on directly.
He's a very shrewd politician.
You're right.
You know, but conservatives want to follow a savior.
They want to have someone who's going to save us rather than really rely on their own ingenuity and preparedness.
And I'm trying to disabuse people that anybody's going to be able to save us because the deep rely on their own ingenuity and preparedness. And I'm trying to
disabuse people that anybody's going to be able to save us because the deep state is so powerful.
But strategic relocation is not only about avoiding the military threats, and I do talk a
lot about the threats, but the major threat in any crisis is the population density. If you're in a
sea of humanity in New York City
or Los Angeles or San Francisco,
not only your chances of getting out nil,
your chances of surviving,
even if you've got food supplied in your house is nil
because you're gonna be ravaged by refugees,
wave after wave coming to every house,
begging for food and then taking and pillaging.
And it's just just it's a
mad max scenario so strategic relocation is all about getting to safer rural areas
in with conservative majorities which will resist a lot of the government edicts that come in
you know and unfortunately none of the conservative states really resisted well
the covid restrictions that taught us a lot of lessons about
how compliant people are with government under emergency powers it was frightening it was
frightening and disillusioning uh to see that happen so yeah there are better strategic locations
that are have great distances between that and big populations and we have to cross desert and hostile terrain in order
to get there and those are you know safer than you know unfortunately there's no warm weather
security place because warm weather attracts soft people and you have to get into the more
states that have mountainous terrain and cold weather you know to to deter people from from
living there and overpopulating but my other
books i have two books about honest to goodness preparedness one is the secure home 700 pages
covers everything in security and fortification of a residence plus the strategy i cover generators
solar um a huge appendix with sources you know know, of how to find these difficult things.
And the other book is a smaller book called the High Security Shelter Book,
and that's specifically for people who have a basement who can create a safe,
a concealed safe room with fallout protection and alternate energy within an existing base.
That's far cheaper than building something from scratch in today's environment of elevated
building costs and things.
Now that one I haven't seen yet.
Give me the title of that again.
I've seen secure home.
It's excellent.
As well as strategic relocation.
It's called high security shelter.
High security shelter.
And it's on my website, joelscousin.com.
And you can get there from worldaffairsbrief.com
as well um and well there's excellent publications they're excellent publications i haven't seen the
third one but i've seen the other two and uh you can't find anything more thorough we have
architectural plans in the shelter book about how to do one of those shelters and the fallout
resistance ceiling on it uh and these are all do-it-yourself
books we encourage people to learn the skills to do it yourself because if you hire it done
you have a lot of people that know what you have and i'll tell you in a crisis they're going to
become knocking on the door wanting to be in your shelter that's right so it really pays to learn
the skills besides if something goes wrong with your solar system or other things you know
you're not going to be able to call a repairman in a crisis without electricity you won't have
any telephone community you need to know how to repair and fix these things or jury rig these
things uh to do that and that's what i find amusing about these reports that surface from
time to time about the elites going out and buying these
incredibly expensive places and they've got all these security guards there and and it's like
these guys are just so soft you know what's going to happen if anything were to happen the security
guards would take them out and take the place over you know it's uh and it's like the it's like
the wealthy conservatives to buy into the vivos community or others pre-built condominium
type shelters underground missile silos and other things run by a big corporation do you think any
of those corporate guards are going to show up to open up you know let you in when there's no
electricity and their whole families are a threat you know they're not going to show up you can't
depend on a corporation that's right to operate a sophisticated underground condominium service, you know, for
you. You need to do it yourself. And people resist that. They resist it because they have money,
they're used to paying for everything to get things done, but you need to resist that. You're
going to have to depend on God, your own preparations, and your own skills that you develop. And, you know, I'm 76 years old,
David, and I have learned a dozen different skills over my lifetime so that I can do these things.
And, um, well, I think people are seeing that now they saw that with a lockdown and many other
things are seeing it. You know, people are saying, well, maybe we need to raise chickens and that
type of thing that you're going to have. If you want to have Liberty, you got to have independence.
And if you want independence, you got to have skills.
It's just that simple.
We've got to go back.
And there's a learning curve to all of these things.
That's right.
And now one of the wonderful things now is you can learn
almost anything on YouTube.
That's right.
There are two things on raising chickens on raising beef, cattle on fixing cars.
On, I go to the utah youtube all the time for
fix it type of things from everything the cars to my airplanes to other things because almost
everybody has posted a youtube video it's just marvelous but that will be gone someday it won't
be available that's right when the t-strike comes yeah yeah download them put them on an air gap
machine and put it in a some kind kind of a Farrington cage.
If you want to be able to do that.
And then of course you're going to have to have electricity that's going to operate that as well.
It's always great talking to you, Joel.
Thank you so much for coming on.
And again, folks, you can find those books, Strategic Relocation, The Secure Home.
And give us the name of that third one again.
The High Security Shelter.
Okay.
High Security Shelter.
You can find all that at joelskousen.com.
Thank you so much, Joel.
My pleasure, David.