The David Knight Show - INTERVIEW Young People Are NOT Dying of Long Covid But From Vax

Episode Date: February 23, 2023

Dr. William Makis, MD makismd.substack.com, on the astounding reversal in demographics — the YOUNG are dying now, not the elderly. Dr. Makis on the massive increase in physicians dying suddenly and... skewing to young, fit doctors. Find out more about the show and where you can watch it at TheDavidKnightShow.com If you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here:SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-showOr you can send a donation through Mail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @DavidKnightShow@protonmail.comCash App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Money is only what YOU hold: Go to DavidKnight.gold for great deals on physical gold/silverBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.

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Starting point is 00:01:12 This is the same province where they were arresting pastors left and right. We had Jim Coates, and we had Jim Stevenson, I think, or James Coates, I think, was the pastor's name. But he has been a target of Alberta Health Services, even though he has put out over 100-plus peer-reviewed medical publications because he started looking at some of the effects of this stuff, and not just the heart issues, but as a cancer researcher, also looking at what is happening with cancer.
Starting point is 00:01:41 So I want to begin by talking about his personal story. Thank you for joining us, Dr. Makas. Thank you very much for having me. Let's talk a little bit about what your history is with this. What happened to cause you to notice this? And then when you started to speak out, what has been happening with your personal story. So when did you start to sense that something was a bit off as a physician? Well, I'll give you a quick background about myself. I trained in radiology and oncology at McGill University in Montreal. I ran a large cancer center in Edmonton, Alberta. We treated end-stage cancer patients with that targeted radionuclide therapy
Starting point is 00:02:26 with medical isotopes, and we had a cure rate of about 85 to 90 percent. Unfortunately, the program wasn't making money for anybody, and so Alberta Health Services decided to shut it down, and then I found out that the program was going to be restarted in Vancouver, British Columbia, with funding from the federal government, from the Trudeau government, which has invested over $300 million since to rebuild that program and invest in private clinics and so on. So this happened before the pandemic. And I had been involved with some legal battles with Alberta Health Services. And I was forced into an early retirement because I refused to sign non-disclosure agreements. I refused to abandon my contracts as a cancer researcher here in Alberta.
Starting point is 00:03:09 So when the pandemic hit, I was effectively an outsider. I was not faced with any sort of peer pressure from, you know, the hospitals. And I could look at what was happening objectively. And what I saw was something very strange, you know, we had a viral outbreak that wasn't affecting, you know, young people to any significant degree. Yes. The people who seem to be at risk were over 70 years old in long term care settings. Or people who already had multiple comorbidities seem to be the ones who are coming down, um, with a more severe, you know, infection and hospitalizations. So initially, uh, I felt that the, the fear and the panic was overblown. And, um, once they started rolling out the vaccines at first, I thought it would only be rolled out in high-risk populations,
Starting point is 00:04:10 in the elderly, in long-term care settings, and people who were immunocompromised or had multiple comorbidities and who were at risk. And that's not what happened. Instead, they rolled out the COVID-19 vaccines in absolutely everybody. And I remember telling my wife, I thought, this is very bizarre. Medically, this makes no sense. You know, you're rolling out vaccines in young, healthy adults, you know, for a virus that really doesn't affect them. You know, the survival rate in young adult healthy population was something on the order of 99.9%. So I knew something was wrong right then and there, you know, especially with the aggressiveness of the vaccine rollout. They seem to want, initially it was one jab into everybody, you know, then they wanted everyone to have, you know, their two doses. They kept talking about herd immunity. So there were a lot of red flags very early on with this.
Starting point is 00:05:02 And of course, you know, that is going to be the only thing that we can use. We don't want to talk about any alternatives. You know, anybody comes up and says, hey, look, this seems to be working very well for my patients. Shut up or we're going to take your license, right? They weren't seriously seeing this as a threat. If they seriously saw it as a threat, they would say to everybody, yeah, give us your stuff and let's evaluate this. You know, you mentioned, you began by talking about the demographics. That was one of the big red flags to me. Going back and looking at it, if you look at the 1918 flu, which they love to compare it to. So I looked at that and it's like, well, it seems like that was pretty evenly distributed over all age demographics except for the under one and over 80.
Starting point is 00:05:41 And why is this all skewed? I said, this looks surprisingly like the actuarial tables that we would normally have from the insurance companies, you know? So what is really going on here? So I agree. There was a lot of clues about that. And of course, there were some other political clues about that. So when you saw that, what was your reaction to that? And what did you do or say about that well it was very clear that something sinister was going on especially when they blocked all early treatments um they started attacking hydroxychloroquine of course that was tied to uh donald trump so there was a a very obvious political motive there to block, for example, that treatment. Ivermectin,
Starting point is 00:06:25 these treatments were smeared. And the medical authorities started coming after doctors who were trying to treat their COVID-19 patients with any kind of early treatment. And really, what they did was they basically blocked all early treatments, really said that the only option you had was to give the vaccine, which again, made absolutely no sense medically. And then the idea that when they were rolling out these vaccines that you couldn't get an exemption, that to me was one of the biggest red flags of all because, you know, you cannot mandate an experimental treatment you know I mean the whole concept of bodily autonomy went out the window and when I saw that people who were having severe reactions were still being pressured to take another dose of the vaccine and another dose
Starting point is 00:07:20 um and exemption letters were being denied, religious exemptions were being denied, then you knew that this was, you know, very sinister and unlike anything we'd seen before. Yeah, and you know, when we look at it, I talked to the JCCS, the Canadian constitutional organization that was defending some of these pastors. I said, why is this happening so bad in Alberta? It's like the place that you hear about it the most. And they said, yeah, you know, it really is kind of strange that that was one of the focal places right there where you are in Alberta, where they came after religious liberty.
Starting point is 00:07:57 And that was another big red flag. The fact that you would have these people meeting from July, meeting in church in violation of these isolation rules that they had put out, and nobody getting sick. You know, again, even those populations typically trending elderly, and that they would do it from July until the early part of 2021. And then as they're about to push out these vaccines and mandate these vaccines, they start arresting these pastors. And it's like, wait a minute,
Starting point is 00:08:27 they've been meeting for months without everybody dying. What's going on with this? And so it really was, especially even there in Alberta, a major political move, obviously political throughout all of it. But you started looking at some of the doctors that you saw dying in and around there. And of course, I should mention that you have a Substack.
Starting point is 00:08:51 You're on substack.com, Dr. William Makis. That's spelled M-A-K-I-S on Substack. And you've written about the increase in the number of doctors, especially young Canadian doctors that are dying from this. Tell us a little bit about that. I started noticing this in November of 2021 when there was a sudden death of a young cardiologist, 52-year-old cardiologist from New Brunswick, Dr. Sohrab Luchmedial. And he had been a very vocal proponent of the vaccines. He was extremely angry with what he called the anti-vaxxers
Starting point is 00:09:27 or people who were discouraging others from getting the vaccine. He would post things on social media saying, if they die, I'm not going to cry at their funeral, and I want to punch them in the face and things like that. So when he died suddenly, it really caught my attention, and I thought, okay, he died two weeks after taking his booster shot and he died in his sleep, which was again, extremely unusual for a, you know, healthy young man to die in his sleep two weeks after taking the booster shot. And how old was he?
Starting point is 00:09:56 And it happened again. I'm sorry. How old was he? 52 years old. And then it happened again, just a few weeks later in Toronto, Dr dr neil singh dala 48 year old family doctor who was a ceo of activa clinics he ran a number of clinics in the greater toronto area and there was a tiktok that had come out from a family member uh saying that he had taken his booster shot a few days later he was at a friend's uh party christmas eve party he started feeling unwell uh started having some pains he lied down on the couch and he died in a sleep on his friend's couch and this was about three four days after taking his booster shot so i put those cases together i started reporting about it on twitter and uh people knew right away that something's very
Starting point is 00:10:43 wrong here of course you know you start start to see athletes were dying suddenly, collapsing on the field, and this was already happening. But people hadn't realized that doctors had started dying suddenly, unexpectedly, ever since the rollout of the COVID-19 vaccines at the start of 2021. And no one had really noticed this. And they were some of the first ones to get it because they put it out to the medical, forced it on them,
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Starting point is 00:11:42 vigilant if you are going into hospital, have active cancer, or undergoing cancer treatment, are pregnant or just had a baby, are in a leg cast or had a lower limb injury, are taking the combined oral contraceptive pill or oral HRT. Ask your doctor for a blood clot risk assessment. Visit thrombosis.ie. Yeah, the doctors are always the first ones to get their vaccines, doctors and then the most vulnerable populations. So we actually, you know, they are the first ones to line up for the first two doses. They were the first ones to start getting the booster shots.
Starting point is 00:12:17 In fact, I remember seeing with Dr. Sohrab Luchmeriel, he had posted that he had gotten his booster shot on October 24th, 2021, when it was still not available to anybody. And people were asking him, how did you get your hands on the booster shot? He basically cut in line and somehow, you know, was one of the first doctors in Canada to get the booster shot. And then he died two weeks later. So I started talking about it on Twitter. Then, unfortunately, I started also talking about the rollout of the COVID vaccines in kids 5 to 11 years old. I saw some very concerning data of poor efficacy and safety, and that especially there was evidence of negative vaccine efficacy where kids who took the
Starting point is 00:13:01 vaccine after six months were actually coming down with more COVID-19 illness and more severe illness than kids who hadn't gotten the vaccine at all. I started talking about that, and then Twitter shut down my account. So then I was basically banished. And what was the date on that, when Twitter shut you down? That was March 2022, beginning of of march 2022 just as they were getting ready to roll out the vaccines and kids so that's right basically all my posts on the kids and the doctors dying suddenly had disappeared and i continued posting on getter which was a twitter
Starting point is 00:13:38 alternative and then we started especially once they rolled out the second booster shot then doctors just started dying left and right especially in ontario there were three doctors that had died at the same hospital in mississauga trillium health system within just days of each other and so i had started looking more deeply into it and then i realized there's far more deaths among canadian doctors sudden deaths than anyone is realizing that's when i started putting out um the reports on getter you know at first it was 32 the more i looked the more i found then it was 80 93 now it's 132 doctors who've died suddenly or unexpectedly since the
Starting point is 00:14:18 rollout of the covet 19 vaccines wow and these these reports now have gone viral they've they've had international reach because there's a lot of interest in what's happening to Canadian doctors internationally. Unfortunately, domestically, the health authorities are completely ignoring it. They're calling it misinformation. They don't want to look at the data. They're not interested in finding out what's going on. And as we talk about red flags, isn't that one of the biggest red flags you've ever seen? When you go back and you look, we now have in one state, in Idaho, they have introduced a bill, I don't know if this is going to pass or not, that would make it illegal to give mRNA vaccines because of the threats that we've seen.
Starting point is 00:14:59 And yet when you look at what is typically happening, the most that we've seen prior to this is a response from DeSantis in Florida or his surgeon general, Latipo, who say, well, we don't want to give it to kids under a certain age or people that are under a certain age. But they won't block it. And they won't block it for elderly people. And when you go back and you look at the history of caution that we've typically had with these regulatory agencies, you know, you got a Boeing 737 max shut down after you had two crashes out of 8,200 flights. But going back to the vaccine issues, going back to the 1970s with the first swine flu thing, after you had three deaths attributed to the vaccine, nine states banned it. And now we look
Starting point is 00:15:47 at this and say, well, what a radical idea that you would ban this vaccine. There's absolutely no way that you can say that we haven't had many, many, many orders of magnitude, more than three deaths from these vaccines when you look at the reports here in the US and in Europe and other places, right? It's amazing that they let this continue. Well, that's what's so alarming is, you know, if you just look at the VAERS report and you see, you know, there's tens of thousands of deaths on VAERS already. And again, that's another big red flag that, you know, this should have been shut down a long time ago.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Yes. Unfortunately, in Canada, the way the authorities are treating vaccine injuries and vaccine deaths is that they're denying that they're happening. And so we have a reporting system. It's much worse than theirs in the United States or Udra Vigilance in Europe. And Health Canada so far has admitted to having about 350 or so reports of deaths that have been attributed to the vaccine that have been sent to Health Canada. And basically what they've done is they said, we've looked at them. Most of them are not related to the vaccine that have been sent to Health Canada. And basically what they've done is they said, we've looked at them.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Most of them are not related to the vaccine. We're still investigating about 50 of them. And we've confirmed zero cases of vaccine deaths in Canada. And they say this with a straight face, that there's been zero deaths from the vaccine. Meanwhile, in Alberta, the number one cause of death last year in 2021 was causes unknown with 3,400 Albertans dying of causes unknown. Autopsies are not being done. That number is going to exceed more than 4,000 this year. So we have a real clamp down on the idea of COVID-19 vaccine injuries and deaths being properly reported and
Starting point is 00:17:26 investigated in Canada. And it's just been that way, you know, since the rollout of the vaccines. Yeah, the vaccines, even going back before we had the COVID jabs, they were given legal immunity here in the United States by Fauci. And it's been this metastasizing cancer, if you will, the fact that no matter what happens, we're going to rule out you looking at vaccines. Nobody's going to have any liability, but we're also not even going to look at any science that might point in that direction about any condition. It's just going to be ruled out. Anybody questions us, we'll destroy you.
Starting point is 00:17:57 We'll destroy your career and the rest of that. But we've now got, and I've had it on my deck here for a couple of days, cbsnews.com put out a report where they specifically said, you know, all these people that are dying, they're not dying from the vaccine. They're dying from long COVID. Then I had a listener send me a,
Starting point is 00:18:14 a something that's done by his local CBS affiliate, where they went to a local doctor and then they do like a little one minute report. And after the report, the reporter says, Oh, and nobody is dying from vaccines. She had to throw that in, right? Because that's just raw, unmitigated propaganda. This is like the Soviet Union, the way they're reporting this information.
Starting point is 00:18:38 And that's how they're getting away with it. And everybody sees to it. People saw through the Soviet Union when they lived there. They said there's no truth in Pravda, there's no news in Izvestia. They understood that. We understand it. And yet they continue to lie to our face and think that we believe them. It's absolutely amazing, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:18:56 Exactly. I grew up in the communist Czechoslovakia, and we actually escaped communism in 1988 just before the Berlin Wall fell. We ended up living in a refugee camp in Yugoslavia, United Nations refugee camp for a year. That's where I learned English before coming to Canada. So I saw this, you know, firsthand. And you're exactly right. Everyone knew that the government was lying, the authorities were lying, the communists were lying, and everybody knew it.
Starting point is 00:19:25 But the consequences of standing up and speaking out were always very very high it always meant um if you were lucky your career was over if you were unlucky you were shipped to the gulags in siberia and never heard from again and so i saw the same thing happen in canada with the medical boards which which here are called the Colleges of Physicians and Surgeons. And very early on in the pandemic, they came out very aggressively and told the doctors, as soon as the vaccines were being rolled out, they told the doctors, you cannot speak up about COVID-19 vaccine injuries or deaths. You will cause vaccine hesitancy, they called it. And essentially, you will be prosecuted
Starting point is 00:20:08 uh you know we will suspend your license and you know we will destroy your career and this came out from the colleges all across canada wow so doctors very early on were conditioned to not give mask exemption letters they were not allowed to give vaccine exemption letters. They were not allowed to treat patients with COVID-19 with early treatments. And if they spoke up about COVID-19 vaccine injuries or deaths, they were persecuted. They were dragged through hearings. It's happening right now. Doctors are still being dragged through kangaroo court hearings. They're having their licenses suspended um and these regulatory bodies are really going after them and so this was a very communist style crackdown uh that you know i'd seen this before but you know it's shocking that you see it before your eyes happening in canada
Starting point is 00:20:58 and there's nothing that any of us can do about it the provincial governments are on board a lot of the provincial governments are pushing this uh and they're trying to go even more draconian right now in british columbia you know they've just passed a bill uh called bill bill 36 where doctors now have as a condition of their licensing forced vaccinations and they will be forced to take covid vaccines um if we get mrna vaccines for influenza or flu they will be forced to take COVID vaccines. If we get mRNA vaccines for influenza or flu, they will be forced to take those as a condition of keeping their medical license and staying with nurses. And if they speak up about COVID-19 vaccine injuries or deaths, they could face up to $200,000 in fines or six months imprisonment. And this has just been passed in British Columbia.
Starting point is 00:21:41 In British Columbia. Wow. That's amazing. And of course, you know, we've seen this over and over again. Pilots who, well, I'm going to lose my career if I don't take the vaccine. They take the vaccine. They lose their life or they have an incident flying the plane and maybe the co-pilot's able to take it down. But now their career is over. I've talked to an orthopedic surgeon who got the vaccine and now he's got tremors and he can't operate anymore. And he's got tremors and he can't operate anymore
Starting point is 00:22:05 and he's gone to doctors and the doctors are afraid to talk about he said if i wouldn't even treat him he said i finally got a doctor who would treat me but he said we're not going to talk about what caused this and the two of them know i mean that's how they have corrupted this how they have imposed immediately from top down this soviet system and that's one of the things you know as you pointed out coming from czechoslovakia before it was opened up and arter palowski another fellow canadian you guys have seen this and the people who are willing to fight against this and put their life on the line are the people who have seen what it's like to live under this system so many americans and canadians Australians, other people, have not lived under this system. They don't believe it could ever be imposed, and they close their eyes to it being
Starting point is 00:22:50 imposed on us right now. They have absolutely no clue about what's going on, and they won't fight it. They'll go along with it. That's what's sad. I think, you know, Canadians, there are a lot of Canadians who are enamored with the idea of socialism. There's a lot of Canadians on the left, they support the Trudeau Liberal government, or they support the provincial NDP governments, and they're just enamored with this idea of socialism and equality, and they have no idea what socialism is like when it's actually implemented. These people have never stood in bread lines, they've never faced shortages like we faced i remember as a child i was put to stand in red lines for hours or if something came
Starting point is 00:23:32 to a supermarket you know whether it was toilet paper or something you stood there um you know for hours and hours i know that story yeah because even if you didn't need it you could barter it out right with somebody exactly They've got something. If I can get it now. How old were you when you got out of there with your family? I was nine years old. Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Yeah, that's old enough to remember exactly what it's like. You've got on your Substack, and is the name of your Substack COVID Intel Substack? Is that, what is it? Will people find you if they look your name up? It's called COVID Intel. It's easily found at macismd.substack.com. Okay, good. macismd.substack.com.
Starting point is 00:24:14 But in the article, you talk about the different, how much by age bracket from 30 years old, 40 years old to 50 years old. You point out at 50 years old, it was twofold higher for doctors. Doctors' deaths under age 45, fold higher under age 38, fold higher. And as these news organizations, Dr. Makis, are telling us, it's long COVID. It's not the vaccine. That statistic flies in the face of all the statistics they were giving us throughout the boosting stage of this pandemic, showing how it was all skewed to the older. Now,
Starting point is 00:24:54 all of a sudden, we've got all these excess deaths, as you pointed out. There's an unknown cause, and yet it's all skewed to younger people. Isn't that interesting? Exactly. Doesn't fit. You know, initially, people attacked me and said, well, you know, doctors died all the time before, and, you know, you have no data, no evidence to compare to. And we had then assembled a team of volunteers that have spent hundreds of hours really collecting data from official sources, medical associations throughout Canada of doctors who died. And we've looked back for the past four years so that we could actually compare to a pre-pandemic year, and then a pandemic year, and then, of course, the first two years of the vaccine.
Starting point is 00:25:35 And we'd assembled a database of over 2,200 doctor deaths, all causes. We looked at it. We've analyzed it. And if you look at 2022 the overall excess mortality of canadian doctors is 53 percent excess mortality compared to 2019. and as you mentioned this is heavily skewed towards the younger doctors so it's actually the younger doctors that are dying in much higher numbers you know everybody under the age of 50, it was twofold. But if you look at under the age of 30, it's 900% higher, the mortality in year 2022 compared to 2019. And it's the young medical students and the young residents
Starting point is 00:26:18 who were forced to take two or three COVID-19 vaccines just to be able to stay in medical school and finish their medical degree. These are the ones who are coming down with, you know, the most severe injuries, and they're the ones who are dying at the highest rate. And, you know, this is what's alarming to me, because I remember as a medical resident, I was forced to take the H1N1 vaccine during, you know, the swine flu in 2009. And I was forced to take it again to be able to stay in medical school. And there was no option given. They basically said, here's where you're going to line up, you're going to take it, and that's final. So I can sympathize with the
Starting point is 00:26:57 coercive nature of this, these vaccine mandates, which have been forced on young people. And throughout, you know, and throughout you know all the universities all the colleges have rolled out these aggressive unscientific vaccine mandates even if you're studying remotely you're you know you had to take the code 19 vaccine it was completely nonsense there was no medical basis to it and now we're starting to see sudden deaths in younger and younger people I just reported on my sub stack 10 Canadians ages 20 or 21 died suddenly last month alone in January just in one month 10 died suddenly you know some of these were obviously you know college students or university students who were forced to take the COVID-19 vaccine or they were athletes who were forced to take the vaccines in order vaccine, or they were athletes who were forced to take the vaccines in
Starting point is 00:27:45 order to continue playing sports or access facilities. So the deaths are in the younger and younger groups. Now it's starting to reach into the high schools where we're seeing sudden deaths in high school aged kids. And it's just absolutely horrifying to see. And, you know, even as we have, I've got here a story of New York City and how they're selling off their excess PPE equipment and things like that that they bought. They got hundreds of millions of dollars of that stuff. They're selling it for less than a penny. You know, they're selling it for about a quarter of a percent of what they paid for it. As that's happening, as people are, you know, taking off, Walensky says, well, we don't want to get rid of the mask,
Starting point is 00:28:25 but unfortunately, that's what she said, unfortunately, all the cities are green and yellow, so we can't mandate the mask. But as this is all pulling back and there's talk of whether they will do it or not, ending the emergency, they're still keeping it in the colleges as a requirement. And you're talking about how this is coming after the young people. That's one of the most cynical aspects of this.
Starting point is 00:28:49 Absolutely no justification for this. Nobody sees this as an issue anymore. And yet they're still keeping those mandates there. And you're still seeing, and that may be one of the reasons why you're seeing this escalate with the younger people. And they can't cover it up with the younger people because they can't explain away as a comorbidity. They don't have any comorbidities. They're young, they're healthy. And so when they die, people want to know what's going on. Why is this happening at an unprecedented rate? Well, what's insane about all this is how they are,
Starting point is 00:29:16 not just the medical schools, but just colleges in general, coursing the kids to get vaccines in order to not even just to play sports, but even to attend the school. It's insane. Exactly. We had a university, Western University in London, Ontario, here in Canada, which had implemented a COVID-19 vaccine mandate for the first two doses, but they were the first university to implement a vaccine mandate for the booster shots as well. And then one of their students, 20-year-old Spencer Cornelis, died suddenly in October. Then another student, Megha Thakur, died suddenly on November 24th, 2022. And she was a TikTok influencer. She had millions and millions of views. And her death was really,
Starting point is 00:30:02 you know, heavily publicized. She had actually come out and said that four months prior, once she was fully vaccinated, she had a heart attack that her doctors had attributed to anxiety. They told her that it was because she had anxiety. And four months later, she dies suddenly. And so what we saw was the university, Western University, quietly announced a few days after her death that they are fully rescinding their COVID-19 vaccine mandates after consulting with medical professionals. And I really believe that they didn't consult their medical professionals. They consulted their lawyers. And their lawyers told them, this is going to blow up in our face, and we better abandon this vaccine mandate quietly and quickly. And that's what they did.
Starting point is 00:30:44 And unfortunately, this is what it's taking. It's taking the deaths of their own students for them to back off these insane policies. And that's a good point, because even though Fauci has made sure that we can't come after the vaccine companies, you can come after the institutions, whether it's a corporation or an educational institution that forced you to do this, coerced you to do this, and then you were harmed for it. And the lawsuits have already started. And I'm glad to see that. There needs to be much more of that. But the amazing thing, Dr. Makis, is the fact that, as I was saying, you've got the CBS News and then its local
Starting point is 00:31:21 affiliates are putting out these propaganda pieces and they're talking about how this is affecting young adults. It's forced their hand because they don't have they can't explain it away any other way. So now they got to come back. And their alibi now is long COVID or they actually in these news reports, they say, well, we've had a lot of people that have been under stress because they couldn't go to that. They're depressed. Uh, they're not exercising. So this is why young people are dying suddenly. It's just beyond belief.
Starting point is 00:31:52 You know what? It's the same in, in Canada as in the U S I'm seeing this same stories. CBS interview where the you know they were talking about a huge increase in heart attacks and deaths in young people ages 25 to 44 years old you know and they had an expert on who was I believe she was the wife of the World Cup announcer who had died suddenly at the age of 48 at the World Cup and she herself is a doctor she's an infectious disease specialist and she's actually a coveted advisor for the Biden administration and she was there at this interview saying well you know it we don't know what's causing these sudden deaths it could be you know it could be long covered you know maybe people didn't get to the gym and maybe it was stress and you could tell
Starting point is 00:32:39 the reporters were twisting themselves every which way possible to find any kind of excuse for these deaths in young people other than the vaccine the vaccine was not mentioned during the entire interview yeah and we've had the same we've had the same issue here in Canada on the reporting we had CBC reporting on over 10 000 excess deaths in Alberta and they said well you know what it's we're actually under counting covet deaths it's COVID deaths. It's probably from COVID. It's probably from long COVID. Maybe the opioid crisis. Maybe drug addiction.
Starting point is 00:33:12 And it's this idea of anything but the vaccine. That's right. And they will not, literally, they will not mention the word vaccine in any of their reporting. Yeah. Yeah. That was what was, I guess, a little bit surprising is the fact that you, it's not the vaccine, by the way, just in case get you know it is it is really crazy now they're coming after you um there's a legal threat against you uh as you spoke out against not just the vaccines but especially against uh the mandates i'm looking at an article here uh going back to january tell us um uh what is uh what the current status of that that was uh january of a year ago what they've been coming
Starting point is 00:33:45 after you for for quite a while you said that you had some uh disputes with them prior to that based on uh what they were doing with the research and the fact that they wanted you to sign some ndas about the research that was there but uh tell us the status of of uh this i would say political persecution of doctors in your particular case? In my case, they came after my cancer program before the pandemic. When I refused a $400,000 bribe and signing a non-disclosure agreement, they came after my medical license, they threatened my family, and then they ended up suspending my medical license. And this was just before the pandemic. Now, once the pandemic hit and I started speaking out, they actually filed emergency injunction applications with the courts to have me silenced and to have my Charter Rights to Freedom of Expression suspended.
Starting point is 00:34:34 They actually asked a judge in court to suspend my Charter Rights to Freedom of Expression. The judge said, look, this is ridiculous. We can't do that. And so the judge threw the case out. This was in 2020 and so they had to abandon it i've been getting threatening letters from them when i stood up against covet 19 vaccine mandates in our province for healthcare workers i co-wrote a letter to the head official of alberta health services and i get back a threatening letter from the college saying, we're putting this on your record, and we'll give you a chance to rescind your letter, but otherwise it's going to be on your permanent record. So, you know, this persecution is happening to any doctor who has spoken up during the pandemic, who's spoken up about especially
Starting point is 00:35:21 COVID-19 vaccine injuries and deaths there are a number of doctors who are being currently persecuted in Alberta and British Columbia in Ontario you know we had three doctors in Ontario who you know the college had a big hearing it was publicized and they suspended their medical licenses for either writing vaccine exemption letters or trying to treat their patients with early treatments. So the colleges are very, very aggressively going after doctors. But as you mentioned, you know, the health authorities have also gone after Christian pastors here in Alberta. Pastor Arthur Wawlowski, for example, the lawyers, the Alberta Health Services lawyers that went after him are
Starting point is 00:36:06 the same lawyers that have gone after me. These are the same group of individuals that are persecuting Christian pastors as well. And I believe in Alberta, the purpose of that was actually to damage the conservative government and to essentially bring down the conservative government, destroy its popularity. Because what's very interesting is our healthcare system is run by individuals who are allies to the Trudeau liberal government, the federal government. And so there's actually, they kind of do their own thing. You know, they get $20 billion every year from the government. And these are bureaucrats, these are unelected bureaucrats who are making the decisions for
Starting point is 00:36:45 healthcare in our province, and they sent these lawyers to persecute Christian pastors. They blamed it on the conservative provincial government, which, you know, didn't stop this persecution from happening. And it brought down the, you know, the government of Jason Kenney, which was a conservative government, because ultimately it was blamed on him. He didn't stop the persecution of Christian pastors during the pandemic. Yeah, he deserves the blame. He deserves to be gone because he stood down and stood by, I guess, as Trump would say. But now you've got the new premier that's there. Is her name Danielle Smith?
Starting point is 00:37:20 Is that her name? Danielle Smith. Yeah. Yeah. She's made some interesting statements talking about, you know, what's going on with these people taking marching orders, essentially. That's not her term, you know, but essentially talking about, we've got some strange things happening here with people who are connected to Davos.
Starting point is 00:37:37 What is your take so far as to she's been there for a few months now? What is your take? Have things really changed in Alberta? Has she put forward any ideas of how they might reform this to make sure this type of thing stops and never happens again? Well, it's very interesting
Starting point is 00:37:56 because as soon as she became premier, she put out this statement and really an apology to the unvaccinated saying that the unvaccinated were the most persecuted group that she had ever seen in her lifetime, which was a correct statement. And she was crucified in the media for it. And so she's come out, she's wanted to reform these big, corrupt healthcare institutions like Alberta Health Services or the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Alberta. She said she would dissolve the college, the medical board that's persecuting doctors
Starting point is 00:38:26 who are speaking up about COVID vaccine injuries and deaths. Unfortunately, we are very close to an election. And so she has advisors who are probably represent, you know, the wealthy in Calgary and Edmonton who are telling her, don't rock the boat, you know, don't make any radical changes because we want to win this election that's coming up in May of 2023. So she hasn't really done any major changes.
Starting point is 00:38:53 The problem is, is that the vaccine injuries and deaths continue. You know, our Alberta Health Services is still rolling out the vaccines in kids as young as six months old. They're still rolling out the vaccines in kids as young as six months old. They're still rolling out the vaccines in pregnant women. They're still pressuring people to get their second booster shot, third booster shot. Our doctors, in order to be fully up to date on their COVID vaccines, have had to have at least four shots, four COVID-19 vaccines. And, you know, within a couple of months,
Starting point is 00:39:23 they will have to have their fifth. That's amazing. I mean, can't they see? Have they changed this from fully vaccinated to, well, up to date? Because it's never going to end. We're going to keep boosting you until you die. It's just amazing to me. And it is so sad to see when politicians do that type of thing.
Starting point is 00:39:40 I understand. It's always, I used to work for a guy who used to say, well, Trump can't do this because he's playing 40 chess. He's got to get reelected. It's like, so what? What's the purpose of this if you're going to let people die, right? If you've got people, if they're injecting kids who are six months old, if they're injecting pregnant women, if people are continuing to die, you're going to let that happen so you can get reelected? You're going to eviscerate the people who would actively support you. You're going to eviscerate the people who would actively support, you're going to eviscerate that base of people who would vigorously support her. They rightfully see that as a sellout. Because if you say to somebody, well, you know, it's more important
Starting point is 00:40:17 for me to win. When you make that kind of agreement, then guess what? There's going to be something else that happens after you win the election, and you're gonna be offered that Faustian bargain, and you're gonna take it, and every time you make that choice, it's gonna be easier the next time. That's what Solzhenitsyn was talking about when he said, let's not live by lies, right?
Starting point is 00:40:40 You start to live by that lie, and it becomes a way of life. It's so sad to see that happen. And unfortunately, the conservative governments in Canada, whether they were provincial conservative governments or the federal government, they went all in on the rollout of the COVID-19 vaccines as well. And in fact, they also went all in on COVID-19 vaccine mandates, on the lockdowns so they're now in a position where they could admit that they were wrong that they made a mistake and they could start backtracking but they're too afraid to do so they don't want any accountability so what they're doing instead and I've noticed this both at the provincial level in Alberta but also the federal level the federal conservatives that are trying to overthrow Justin Trudeau is that they will not say a word about the COVID-19 vaccines, about vaccine injuries, about vaccine deaths, because they are afraid that there's not enough support in Canada
Starting point is 00:41:36 for them to be able to come out and actually admit that they were wrong and that they will go in a different direction. So they're kind of, like you know, they will go in a different direction. So they're kind of, like you said, they've made this Faustian bargain. They went all in on the COVID-19 vaccines, and now they really can't admit that they made a huge mistake and that they were basically as bad as the liberals when it came to the vaccines and mandates. Oh, yeah. Yeah, they own it now.
Starting point is 00:42:03 And they're afraid that that's going to be applied to them. And so you see this happening, same thing happening in every country. And you see it happening regardless of what the political party is. They all joined in on this thing. They promoted it. They have been very careful to compartmentalize it. And when you see Rand Paul coming after Fauci, you know, he criticizes him for creating vaccine hesitancy, or he talks about, well, where did the,
Starting point is 00:42:30 where did the, um, uh, the COVID that started in your gain of function research, but he won't talk about the vaccine or he'll talk about natural immunity, but he won't attack the vaccine as being dangerous. And so they're all on board with this to one degree or the other. And I don't really know. I mean, what do you think the way out is for this? Because now these guys, they really do feel like because they,
Starting point is 00:42:56 they know that they bought into this thing. They don't want to have the kind of liability that's going to come with a confession. So they're not going to confess it. They're going to protect each other and protect themselves themselves how do we pull this thing out in your opinion well from what i see is in canada the provincial health authorities the public health authorities you know for now they're trying to sweep all these covered vaccine injuries and deaths under the rug in fact you know when um i actually did a a short interview with Laura Lynn Tyler Thompson, where I highlighted that the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Ontario was actually advising its doctors to treat their unvaccinated as mentally ill and put them on psychiatric medications or have them referred for psychotherapy. Now, that interview went viral in the States, and Canadians got angry, and rightfully so.
Starting point is 00:43:47 And apparently they flooded the colleges with thousands of angry letters. They really frightened the authorities. And then what happened was the college actually closed their doors to the public and said, you know, we're now afraid because the public is angry. And I think, you know really it's the public has to push back the public has to push back on the mandates it has to push back i mean there's still covet 19 vaccine mandates in healthcare you know doctors nurses are still being pressured to push to take the shots you know they're going to have to push back at some point because you cannot
Starting point is 00:44:20 keep taking these shots every three months or every six months you know you're now on your fourth shot soon you're gonna have to take your fifth shot doctors are getting injured doctors are dying you know canadian doctors have an excess mortality in 2022 of 53 overall this is a you know overall excess mortality and we're seeing this excess mortality in all the highly covered 19 vaccinated jurisdictions we're seeing it in the United States. Edward Dodd is talking about this. The former BlackRock hedge fund manager is being very public with insurance data showing very high excess mortality in young people, working age people that he attributes again to COVID-19 vaccine mandates because the excess mortality started in 2021 as the mandates
Starting point is 00:45:06 were rolled out so people have to push back um on this because uh yeah the first insurance company that we saw talking about that was one america out of indiana and the guy says you know this is like this is so many standard deviations from the mean this is like once in you know two or three hundred year event we can't uh this this this just doesn't fit with our analysis. But he comes out and he says, Dr. Makus, he says, but we know that they must be dying of COVID. And even though it says it's not COVID, non-COVID, they must be wrong. It must be COVID. And we also know that nobody will die from COVID if they're vaccinated. So that means that these are unvaccinated people who are dying from COVID. He just makes all this stuff up
Starting point is 00:45:50 and says, therefore, we need to raise the insurance rates on the unvaccinated. This is the way they twist this stuff. But I agree with you. I think the key has got to be us. He's got to be the public. If we make a lot of noise about this, these politicians and these institutions typically don't hear from the public. And it scares them if they get a massive letter-writing campaign. I've said it before. Even in North Carolina, the homeschooling organization there, the big teachers union, wanted to ban it.
Starting point is 00:46:15 And the homeschoolers started a letter-writing campaign and pushed back and stopped this in a state that was run by Democrats who were allied with that big teachers union. If they hear from enough people, it's going to scare them. And if they don't hear from us, they'll be emboldened to continue to do this and to go further. And so that's the key. It really does rest with us, doesn't it? I believe so. And I think, you know, the conservatives in Canada, they are paying attention. You know, I've spoken to a number of conservative politicians who you know privately told me you know we can't talk about it right now but you know if it if there's enough people that start speaking up and pushing back you know then we will have to sort of get on the bandwagon so to speak and and really embrace um
Starting point is 00:47:01 embrace the topic and and it's it's a very serious issue because the amount of COVID-19 vaccine injuries is just astronomical. I mean, we saw data sets coming out of the United States showing that 10%, 15% of all the people who took COVID-19 vaccines were suffering serious enough side effects and injuries that they needed hospitalization or they needed medical attention. So these are large numbers of people. These are not rare events. And so if everyone starts speaking out, I think the politicians will have no choice but to notice and to start addressing it. And ultimately, politicians want to get elected um and if they see that you know this is something that they really do have to address and address it honestly um i think we could see some changes
Starting point is 00:47:51 well it's so big that they can't cover this up forever and you've got doctors as you point out you know 53 excess mortality um out of this uh the the doctors at some point in time have to realize uh that they got to stop playing russian roulette with this thing because their life is on the line. And these politicians need to understand that their career is on the line and they need to be not, not be the last rat to jump off of this sinking ship, but they need to lead the parade. And if they do, some of the stuff that they did is going to be forgiven and forgotten. But if they fight this stuff to the end, that's when it's going to be really dangerous for
Starting point is 00:48:24 them. Well, it's always great talking to people who have stood up to this tyranny. And this really is a fight for the survival of our civilization and for us as individuals. Thank you so much for what you've done, Dr. Makus. Thank you. Thank you very much for having me. And of course, people can find you again. The Substack is COVIDintel. Is that correct? Yes. It's macusmd.substack.com.
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