The David Knight Show - Jack Lawson’s Civil Defense Manual Returns with a Vengeance Amid a Nation on the Brink

Episode Date: March 28, 2025

     He’s back—Jack Lawson, the fearless voice of survival, storms onto the scene with Civil Defense Manual, a a revamped new website, and a stockpile of three tons of books ready to arm Americans with the knowledge to face the chaos ahead.     After a maddening four-month blackout blamed on DEI disasters at his distributor, Lawson’s breaking free from the shackles of Big Tech censorship—Amazon’s ‘Communist Commissar’ crew axed his account, but they can’t stop him now!     With a Substack to rally the troops, Lawson’s not just selling books—he’s igniting a movement. As he warns of a ‘Fourth Turning’ crisis barreling toward 2029, with economic collapse and war looming, he’s arming patriots with free resources and a Certified American program to rebuild a civil defense from scratch.If you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-show Or you can send a donation throughMail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @[e-mail] App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Money should have intrinsic value AND transactional privacy: Go to DavidKnight.gold for great deals on physical gold/silverFor 10% off Gerald Celente's prescient Trends Journal, go to TrendsJournal.com and enter the code KNIGHTFor 10% off supplements and books, go to RNCstore.com and enter the code KNIGHTBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.

Well, welcome back. And it's great to have Jack Lusson back and it's even better to have Civil Defense Manual back and it's not only back, but he's got a brand new website. He's got new books that are there. He's got a new sub stack as well. He wrote this to me. He says, people have been seeing the out of stock when they go to the website for so long. He said, I think they stopped checking. He said, would you show what we've got and show that, Travis, show the shipment of books that he's got there.

He said, we've got three tons of books and we're in the process of filling the back orders. He said, the outage of books has been a whopping four months and 10 days since all of this DEI people had screwed this up at his distributor. They told me all of a sudden said, oh, we just realized we got no stock. And why didn't you stock on all this stuff? So he's taken care of that. He's got, I guess you're doing the distribution yourself, Jack, but the, he's got a new website. He's got more books. He's got a Substack link and it's good to have him back. Thank you for distribution yourself, Jack, but the he's got a new website. He's got more books.

He's got a Substack link and it's good to have him back. Thank you for joining us, Jack. Tell us a little bit about that. Good to be in your show again, David. Thank you. Yeah. Tell us a little bit about that. Jack Lawson books.

You it's a, it's a great website and it's got a lot of different things there. You got a couple of new books as well as civil defense manual. Uh, I've re I wrote those books quite, uh, quite a while ago. One's about, uh, one's my very first book. Uh, it's a novel. Sorry. It's a novel. My S my son calls it the encyclopedia.

It's a historical novel. Uh, the other one is a book called The Slaver's Wheel about Colonel Sully De Fontaine, who is like a father to me. I met him by running across one of his friends in Africa. And the long and short of it is Amazon, I call it the Communist Commissar Censoring Committee, the communist commissar censoring committee for some reason didn't like the content of my books and deleted my account. Something to the effect that my books didn't meet their criteria. Well, they apparently didn't read the first one, but the long and short of it is they're in the process of being printed. They'll be up and running. I have the Civil Defense back manual back I'm still astounded and dumbfounded that

They them or whatever the pronouns were they were sent to me they they can't Couldn't see when they pushed their cart by to take orders that there weren't Hundreds of books there. There was nothing there. So whoever they hired, apparently, uh, he's got blinders on or can't count. Uh, what I am in the process of doing, there is no civil defense system in this country.

That's right. So I've started one. I'm in the process of doing video streaming on different books that people can look at on our computer and we have what we call the certified American program. Why do I have this? Because there is no civil defense.

There is FEMA and everybody's got a pretty good idea what they're capable of after hurricane. Another DEI group. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I get up in the morning, David, and I'm starting to feel like one of those 21 million Americans getting social security that's getting close to 200 at Creekmore every time I get up. But the long and short of it is that there's nothing out there. I have a lot of free resources. If they go to www.JackLawsonBooks.com, there's a lot of information on there. I'm putting more and more on every day.

I'm giving this away. Why? Because I'm more than, uh, interested in more than just selling books. I'm interested in the future to this country. I had a talk with a very powerful person yesterday, very wealthy person. Um, he is a Korean war veteran. He's a retired colonel. He was an attorney for 35 years in the swamp. And he was one of Trump's security directors. And he says this next four years is gonna be

the most tumultuous period in the history of this country since the Civil War. I've been saying that for a long time and you know it's interesting because the Fourth Turning, I don't know if you're familiar with that book by Strauss and Howe, but everybody talks about all these different generations, you know, millennials this and that and the X generation and so forth, and everybody's using all of their labels, but nobody wants to talk about the fact that we're in the midst of a Fourth Turning right now, and we've got these next four years are the tail end of it. These guys said in the early 1990s, like 1992, 1993, they said something's going to happen

worldwide in 2007, 2008, which is about 15 years ahead of when it happened, that'll be financial, that'll kick off the fourth turning, and it'll probably finish up sometime around 2029. And lo and behold, the UN's got its 2030 world all planned out and all the rest of this stuff, and all these fourth turnings are massive economic stuff, usually accompanied by a war, and the previous two here, well, previous three in America were World War II and the Great Depression prior to that, the Civil War prior to that, American Revolution. So yeah, I agree. It absolutely is there.

And anybody that's paying attention has got to see this and has got to start preparing. And Civil Defense Manual is a key part of it. You know, we talk about having money that's going to be outside of their system that's physical, but you also need to be able to have skills as well as supplies, and that's really where your book comes in. Yes. I don't think the general American public, well, I know they don't. The general American public thinks since number 47 has taken office, the new administration's there. Musk is investigating and finding

that all of this money that was literally stolen. It's so bizarre some of the things they're spending it for that it's hard to even remember them but these people are dug in like a North Carolina tick. They are not gonna go away very easily. And I know what that's like because we used to live in North Carolina we used to have to get those North Carolina ticks out of our kids. My son went to scout sniper school in the Marine Corps there and I bought him a new I bought him a stainless steel Marine Corps what's called a K bar knife it's a common knife thick area and I

said how's your knife holding up and he says you mean the stainless stainless steel one dad? I said yeah that one he said well there's nothing that's stainless steel in North Carolina and anyway some some sailor in the amphibious ship stole it from him. The long long and short of it, there's trouble coming. I get a daily briefing. I subscribe to something called Forward Observer. And this morning, I couldn't count all of the protests going on. Now, two months ago, wouldn't count all of the protests going on. Now, two months ago, there were four or five. It's over 200 now.

Wow. And these are a large share of these are Tesla protests. These people just haven't gotten out in the street yet. They're throwing Molotov cocktails at dealerships, but they haven't gotten out in the street. All we need is a trigger incident and they'll be out in the street again. Oh, absolutely. And that's what people have to try to prepare to protect themselves with.

Get together with their neighbors and get to know their neighbors and get to talking about what are we going to do if somebody comes in a neighborhood? That's right. Yeah, when you look at the way that they settle their grievances, we've seen this with them in the wake of the Supreme Court abortion decision. Why they do? They started throwing Molotov cocktails in crisis pregnancy centers or churches or vandalism or things like that, and that's what we're seeing. We're seeing vandalism, even, and it's so misdirected. It's not even going after, you know, some of them have burned up dealerships and charging stations, which again is not an appropriate protest at all. But they have gone after people just because they've got a Tesla. They don't know what the politics of that person even is.

And they've shown pictures of some of the people who've had their cars vandalized. One of them was a woman in a wheelchair, and they vandalized her car. They don't know or care what her politics are, and that's what we're looking at, that kind of insanity that can come after anybody. You don't have to do anything to get them offended. They can become offended by nothing. I've got a comment here on Rumble from Dustin Helme. He said I just bought the books. I was hoping that they would come back in stock soon. So now you're shipping, right? Correct. Yeah. We bought a shipping system. The computers we needed and we're doing it ourselves.

I mean, like the message of your book, isn't it? You gotta do it yourself. You can't do it on other people. You don't rely on anyone else, you're on your own. That's right. I think that people lose sight of the insanity of these people, the corruption in their minds, their logics. I know I have three of them in my family. 61 blood and adopted. I've got three of them that basically turned Minnesota, did a large share of it into what it is right now and I was astounded to see. I mean how many more governors and bureaucrats do we have that

are like this governor of Minnesota? Oh I agree. You have a Chinese Communist Party office in St. Paul, Minnesota? I read that the other day and I was just floored. Well I've got people in our family and of course they're typically involved in education because that's really where the mind virus isn't inculcated in people, these indoctrination centers. And it only gets worse if you go through it and then you get right back out and come back in as a teacher and start teaching again. It seems like, I don't know. Yeah. It's, they can't tie their own shoes. They haven't been 500 miles from home, but I used to, I just don't bother to talk

to them anymore. Their minds are so screwed up. You can't even reason with them. There's a saying the inmates are running the asylum. Well, they were under 46 now, Trump 47. They're not running it right now. And they are like spoiled children. They're angry. They're looking to get their pound of flesh from someone.

And that's the American public That's a traditional, you know one thing I really like to dispel I want to psychological operations training it's the British version of Fort Bragg Special Forces and one of the first things they do is make sure people think You're bigger than you are. Yeah, I'm convinced this is only about 15% of the population that thinks this way. And that's justified as a logical statement because of the election results last time.

So the long and short of it is, is they're not 50%. They're 15%. That's my belief belief and I think that is true you know I 5% with their sympathizers but 15% I I agree and I think that's true in so many different areas that they want to look bigger than they really are I remember the story going back to civil war of the early days of civil war there's a confeder Confederate general and he was vastly outnumbered by all these people. And so there was a little clearing there where they could see the troops and other places where they couldn't see him. He just marched his troops around in a circle. And they thought he had a much larger army and they held off attacking him until he could

get some reinforcements. But I think that's really what we're- That's called the indirect approach. I have this book yeah basically not having contact but there there's you read history about strategies and there's some huge armies that totally outnumbered in a defending force and a defending force in one case marched around in circles with this heavily armed unit following them until they wore themselves out and then the little unit attacked them and beat them. It's a number of different simple tactics I have.

I make this book so people can understand what goes through the mind of people that are on the battlefield. Because if things go crazy, which they're already crazy, but if they get to have civil unrest, you're gonna have to use things like this to defeat and hold your area to keep them from burning your house down.

First they'll ask for food, then they'll demand food, then they'll kick your door down, and in the process probably kill you and your family and turn your family and you into toast, burning your house down. And you've had experience with that and with the Marxists in Africa and things like that. And certainly, you know, the other books that you've got there, the subtitle that won was the Slaver's Wheel. The subtitle was The Green Berets Story. It was classified Mission in Africa. It's very interesting in the Congo, very interesting to see these stories there as well, but that's

where you draw your experience from. Travis was saying, as we were talking about the college stuff, he says, yeah, when you pay those expensive tuition fees in college, you're literally buying into the propaganda. They're going to have their way with you. But everybody is pushing towards war now, it seems like, and the Europeans even as there's talk about peace in Ukraine, they don't want to have it. Zelensky is saying he doesn't want to have it and Europe of course is pushing on that

and the Trump administration continues to push them to rearm. Germany is talking about spending well over a trillion dollars, which is so out of character for Germany. They've been so jealous of staying out of debt and here they're going to saddle themselves with over a trillion dollars worth of debt so they can rebuild a military. As one person's commentary yesterday I talked about, the guy said, didn't we do that before once? How did that work out? He said, we just always have the Germans screaming about the Weimar Republic and hyperinflation. And we saw what happened when they went into massive debt

and built a massive army. Do we really want to do that again? But you've got the European officials now telling people, well, you need to get 72 hours worth of food and water and things like that. They're not even telling people anywhere close to what they need to be able to survive. They need a lot more than that. I don't know where this war thing is going to go. I know that

your listeners should know I went through nuclear weapons training when I was in the American Air Force and I actually was the one in my squadron with the most electronics training. So yours truly was sitting on top of the W 40 thermonuclear bomb, uh, with my butt right on the thing, like slim pickings, arming and disarming the thing. Yeah. Well, I, I wasn't, I didn't have a cowboy hat, but, uh, let's make sure you don't hit the release door on it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, this thing was in a cowboy hat, but uh, the release door on it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, that thing was in a shelter.

It was in a missile shelter. And uh, so I went through training on the mad doctrine, which mad stands for MAD stands for mutual assured destruction, absolute lunacy. I think I got depressed from it. I couldn't think about anything else for the longest time and how crazy it would be. Now that's, the nuclear war is still a strong possibility. I go through in my book how to survive it. It's quite simple. There's two rules You go by the 710 rule and the inverse square rule I'm not gonna explain them but in the book it tells you simply what you have to do. It is survivable

People think that every nuclear Explosion is like Chernobyl. It's gonna be forever. It is not gonna be forever. It's not going to be forever. It's going to burn off. Where I live in the southwest, if they bombed Los Angeles, by the time that gets to my house fallout, it would be one tenth of the amount of radiation coming off. You can protect. It's very survivableable and you don't need gas masks, Geiger counters, all this stuff. It's quite easy to survive against it, but we're possibly depending, I don't know, the Europeans don't have very much as far as any military. They sent all their stuff to Ukraine for the Russians to destroy. I'm hoping. With drones.

Yeah. For the most part, they take low tech drones and, and, uh, wipe out the expensive $200 drone, they destroy a $50 million tank. You know, and it shows the fallacy of American military equipment. You know, we spend 10 times as much for something that doesn't work. And, uh, the other side spends one 10th of what we spend and they've got very effective weapons. Yes. Yes, that's true. Yeah. They need your book in Europe. We need to get the word out to them. As a matter of,

I got a lot of people who bought the coin all over the world. Everybody needs to have this book and you put it out in a two volume book and it's physical because that's really key and a lot of these disasters people are not going to have internet service. I mean we just saw that in western North Carolina with other places like that where the natural disaster comes even if it's a natural disaster. Usually you don't have electricity so it's good to have that, it's good to have that knowledge. It's good to set up those skills, to have those relationships in place

before something happens. Yes, and I tell people in the front of the book to get a large Ziploc bag, throw a candle and some matches in there because you might be reading by candlelight. I put the book in large font so it's easy to read in low light conditions and you know there's trouble coming. People need to do one thing and that's store food and store water and that's the biggest thing that I talk about to people is storing food and water and life

sustaining medicines. There's all kinds of companies out there if you want to learn to shoot. I've got huge amounts of material in the book as far as surviving a gun battle. Again, your readers should know that I was in a foreign legion anti-terrorist unit in a guerrilla war in Africa for two and a half years and I put my experiences and I didn't survive because I was a good soldier. I call, I call, I've got a story I got to tell you about a little later, but I've got stories in the book just to break it up. One of them is my excellent black African chef and he was a guy he was guy in my commando

unit and it's it's just it it blows me away when I think back of that. How many times the good Lord pulled me out, and I didn't use to think it back then, but like a friend of mine said the other day, he said, Lawson, you? Two Bible study groups? What's going on? And I go to some, they're combat veterans, and I really enjoy these people. they're combat veterans and I I

Really enjoy these people. I don't even know if I like some of them, but I trust every one of them to watch my back and I'm just astounded by What is in the good book? This is my second read The first one went on when my mom told me to go to Sunday school with the threat of waterboarding me if I didn't. Anyway, I have to, I gotta, I gotta divert and tell, tell you something that happened. Sure. Uh, my mother-in-law was in, my wife is from Africa, she's British, place called Rhodesia, which is Zimbabwe now.

We got her mother out of there, her father died, and we got her to South Africa. She lived there for four years. Then that started going down the toilet, and it's just, I think Trump said to use the word shite hole, anyway that's what they are. It's just absolutely, they've destroyed the country, not because they're black,

because the communists are running things. That's right, yeah. And it's just putting undue pressure and suffering on both black and white over there. And of course the communists always love to divide and conquer. They'll divide you by economic class or they'll do it by race. And so that is really what they're working on and the same thing here. Absolutely.

So we get my mother-in-law, six years ago we get her to the United States and we get her, we sponsor her, which we're allowed to do. And we get her over here. Now you have to understand the British, I've often said Americans make good citizens, British make good subjects. Because the bottom line, she's British, she's a beautiful woman in her mid 80s, aerobics instructor, very fit. Two years ago, she got all the COVID shots

because the government said, get the COVID shots. And the Brits do pretty much what the government tells you to do. They're very compliant with the government. They believe that they got their best interests in mind, which anybody who's taken history class apparently failed it if they think the government's going to do anything good for you. There was an excellent, let me interject there, there was an excellent animated film I remember back in the 1980s or 90s called When the Wind Blows, and it was this

animated film and this British couple and it's a nuclear war and they're going by the government's hand out as to what's going to happen. And so throughout this whole thing, they're so incredibly naive and you're watching them slowly die because everything the government told them to do was wrong. But yeah, when you say they'll follow the government,

whatever the government says, make me think of that if people have not seen that. Yeah, that's exactly what they do. They do that in just about everything. So we get my mother-in-law over here and she stays between our house and the other sister, my wife's sister's house. We give her living quarters, we feed her, take care of her. And, uh, she got all the COVID shots because they said to get the COVID shots. And then all of a sudden her toes started turning black. We took her in, I got madder than hell at her.

I said, you're going to get gangrene. Uh, we took her to a doctor after three different doctors. Well, we don't know what it is. Uh, so they gave her some antibiotics. Coincidentally, the clots went away. Her toes are getting filled with blood clots. Yeah. So she goes from that to two years later, all

of her toes turned black on a right foot. Well, they removed them all. And they had three vascular surgeons in there, kept calling vascular surgeons in because I think they knew what was going on. It was a result. One of them finally told us this, but it was a COVID vaccine. So then they took her right toes off So then they took her right toes off, then they took her left toes off, they started turning black. Then the next thing we knew two months later,

they removed her right leg up to mid-thigh. And then another month later, they removed her left leg all the way to her hip. The fear was gangrene from these clots and my wife and I know exactly what it is but now we got a call yesterday they're gonna take her right hand off you know it's so upsetting because this woman is it's like she's being tortured she is probably and people out there that have mother-in-law's guys like me that don't like them. She's the perfect mother-in-law. She's my little Jewish princess even though she's older than me. I just I love

her. She's she's so polite and we've got her an assisted living home now but I don't know how much of this stuff is going on in the country. But finally we had a doctor say it's caused by the COVID. Now I suppose he could get fired for that, but like Robert Kennedy Jr. says, we need to have a national discussion on this thing. It's people, the doctors are deathly afraid to say anything. Well, he needs to stop it. He's in a position now where he could stop it.

You know, we don't need any more data. We need somebody who's going to take action on it. He needs to do something to stop that. It's just, yeah. Yeah. I guess there's people out there in universities and institutions that are still telling you to go out and get a COVID, get the tense vaccine. Uh, this is absolute insanity.

We've had friends die from a 33 years old weightlifters fit. All of a sudden go to bed and Tuesday night, Wednesday morning, their room temperature, don't smoke, don't drink, don't take any drugs, legal or illegal. And they die of a heart attack. How often did that happen before? Now they're doing, they're having kids in school, in high school and even younger, have to take electrocardiograms in order to be able to participate. That's never happened before. And you know, this is, this has been going on for the longest time. It's just watching this roll out in slow motion and nobody has the courage to stand

up and do anything about it in government. And it appears to be that they have to essentially take an oath of loyalty to the pharmaceutical companies in order to get any kind of position in there. You saw what happened with the one guy, Dave Walden. They replaced him now with somebody who is fully on board with all vaccines, including COVID stuff, and is going to push us towards AI being inserted in health. She's got deep connections into the intelligence stuff. So yeah, people have to have to do this on their own. Yeah, this is, this is so upsetting. Uh, my wife has been crying here all day.

You know, what, what's my mother-in-law going to end up with? No arms, no legs. Well, it's just just, it's just, it's atrocious. I don't know if you know anything about this. I read something to the effect, uh, one of the whistleblowers from a pharmaceutical company that was involved in making these vaccines says that the end of 2025, there's going to be a cascading mass of people dying. He said there's some kind of time clock. What do you know about that?

I don't know, but I know when you're talking about blood clots and things like that, because I have AFib and there's a chance of that causing a stroke, that I don't want to take the pharmaceutical anticoagulants and things like that. And I don't know with these clots if it would be successful because a lot of these clots when they have done autopsies, you know, they find that it's this white fibrous stuff. But there are some things out there like Lambrokinase and Natakinase that are natural anticoagulants that I don't know if that would help her or not, but I'm not a doctor, but that's the kind of stuff that I take instead of taking their really dangerous pharmaceutical anticoagulants because they always have some horrific side effect.

Since we last talked to you, one of my sons was given a incredibly dangerous concentrated antibiotic when he had an issue. It could have given him something like azithromycin. Instead, they gave him this fluorochloroquinalone and it's a floxin poison that has been going back to Cipro. It's been going on for decades and the FDA won't do anything to stop it. And so, you know, he was bedridden for months and he is still not really able to walk much. And it's just completely destroyed his life. And that's an antibiotic, you know? And so that's the key thing, you know, is all of this pharmaceutical stuff that is out there. It's just, it's poison. Yeah, it's, it, they've been bought off. The whole thing is, uh, our money going to

people that are running things like the FDA. Yeah. They go from there to be a board director for $2 million a year. They've got all kinds of plants to get in the agency they left, all kinds of contacts of authority. Basically, they're a conduit to get things done that shouldn't be done. That's right. I say that FDA stands for Free to Do Anything. Rather than regulating these companies, they leave them free to do anything they wish,

make money, and then, hey, when I get out of this position, I'll join you. Which is what we saw happen with the previous heads of the FDA under Trump. Both of them, one of them goes to Moderna, the other one goes to Pfizer. They greased all that stuff. So, yeah, it's bad.

Yeah, I strongly recommend any of your listeners that are inclined to think that this COVID vaccine attempt booster is going to do them any good. Do not get them. I've read that there's some type of nano bot they're coming out with. God only knows that that's going to do with your body but it's supposed to clear the spike proteins from your body. I don't know I'm not a doctor either but I am getting very disturbed with what I feel is a lack of ethics. Literally a lack of morals in the

medical community. Oh it's gone. It's just horrible. I had questions about this from the very beginning. I just played a clip this last week of an RN who is suffering from this and she, her body is still producing the spike protein 1,500 days later. And I said that from the very beginning. I said, you know, when Moderna comes, Trump sets them up in a little presentation,

how long is it gonna take you? Nah, it's too long. Well, I can do it faster. No, that's still too long. And he finally gets to the other guys at the end where he's got this all programmed out and they say, well, we can do it right now. We can turn your body into a vaccine manufacturing facility. And so when I looked at the way they described the way this thing worked, I said, how do you turn this off? Well, it turns out you don't. And so that's one of the key issues that's happening with it. Yeah.

And you go back and look at deagle.com. I mean, these people have the stuff all planned out, I think. Yeah, they're coming out with a lot of injectables to replace medicines, at least the VA is. And I refuse to take them. I know if I have a adverse reaction To a pill they give me I quit taking it that day. But once you get two weeks of

The pill in you how do you get out of your body if you're having a problem with it? You know, that's right and all the stuff that they do is just getting more and more concentrated I mean even like the antibiotics that are there on rumble have Mav 202222 says, one of my best friends just dropped dead on a Zoom call because of those clots. Wow. It truly is amazing. But when you're talking about-

Yeah, go ahead. No, we'll see where this goes, but the insanity is still out there. Yeah. I've got an African American friend because I was in Zimbabwe and she's from there. And this is how crazy things are getting. She put a comment about it's good to see Doge and Ellen Musk finding out all of the money that's literally been stolen from people.

So the next thing is she gets a comment from somebody that had an Asian Indian sounding name. And they said they apparently looked into her Facebook account and found out she was from Africa. And this comment was, well go back to Africa and take Elon Musk with you. And so she got mad. This is unsolicited, just a provocative comment. And she said, assuming this lady was from India, well why don't you go back to India?

You're not wanted here. So the next thing is the person that put the provocative statement Deleted it so you couldn't see it found out where this woman worked Got hold of her company her boss fired her And she fired they fired her before they talked to her. Yeah. Oh yeah. And so she had a big to do with them. She said, you don't even know. You're only getting half the story. So, uh, anyway, the long and short of it is, is she went to another company, they hired her. They said, you know,

we've got another person that had the exact same thing happen to them. They just went to work here. And it was a Muslim woman. And so this got to be a real circus. And I told her, I said, you know, I closed my Facebook account, get your stuff back up, get off of it. And it's just gotten to be, back up, get off of it. And it's just gotten to be, I call it, you know, maybe this isn't something you agree with, but I call it Satan's computer system. Literally antagonizes people to the point that after this happened, I'm talking to another author, Matt Bracken on the floor to talk to him for an hour and a half last Sunday. And he, he's an expert on this because he's been suspended or kicked off everybody's website.

And he said, Jack, that is a bot. I said, what do you mean? He said, they are paying people to go out and send these bots out. They, they aren't even human, but they have a human overseer and they're just trying to stir up as much trouble. It's that left-wing lunatics, you know.

Again, the inmates are running the asylum. Well, and it's only going to get worse because we're going to have artificial intelligence that's going to go out and make these determinations about you based on your content that's on social media, and they will label or stigmatize you, and it won't just be that, it'll be geospatial intelligence that they've been working on since the late 1990s, the fastest growing part of intelligence, where they look at your patterns and other things like that, just like they did the people who were in Washington, DC

on January the 6th. They put a geofence around that, but they can look at that and collate that with their surveillance techniques, and they can determine what your politics are, what your religion is and all the rest of this stuff. And if they don't like it, then they can come after you. That's going to be the world that we're going to live in. And that's going to be an essential part of preparation and survival as well.

That's going to be, I guess, what we call that information awareness because they want total information awareness, so we have to be aware of what information they want total information awareness so we have to be aware of what information they want to get from us, right? One of my friends used to be one of the big mucky muck directors of Department of Homeland Services and he was telling me about He was telling me about the surveillance they were doing back. Well, he quit in 2019. He said the things that were going on there, he just didn't want to stay there anymore. Oh yeah.

He said they were bordering on being treasonous. Yes. And so I think they passed that border a long time ago. My estimation. Yeah. It's a, yeah, it,, it's, uh, yeah. It things are just going further. Surveillance. He said, is beyond your comprehension.

He said, and he said, I quit six years ago and he said, I don't even know what it's like now, but this is going to move from a keyboard or AI to the Tesla. It's gone. And to the streets at some point. This is far from over. These people are not going to give up and they've got a lot of money behind them. I often wonder how much this money has disappeared. It's sitting in slush funds.

I know one, uh, Baptist group, it was a church group and I'm not beating up on Baptist, but they got a $10.7 million grant against the money he's just given to them. And four years later after the Biden administration, this group had over $800 million in a slush fund. How much of that is going on in the country? Somebody's funding this stuff even though Trump's cutting it off. The fact that he cuts it off, I don't know, do they need congressional approval? Where is this going to go? Is it going to stay cut off or?

Well, you know, you just had a situation like that. It was a charitable aid that was being spent by Samaritan Ministries. That's Franklin Graham's thing. And they were supposed to be reimbursed by USAID, which I've always thought is just synonymous with the CIA because it is. But anyway, a judge comes back and says, no, you can't cut that funding. And so then they were able to get that money. That money was not going to go to them, and then that became a news story. But here's the thing. A lot of people want to excuse what Trump did. They always say, well, he didn't do it.

It was the governors who did it. No, he paid them to do it. And that's the way the presidents always operate. They don't want to give a direct order because people will challenge that in court with the 10th Amendment. So what they do is they bribe and they blackmail people for the money. So it's amazing to me to see that these judges are pulling back Trump not spending money, right? That's the kind of interest. Congress can allocate the money, but the executive does not have to spend it. Trump has used it as a weapon to spend

or to not spend. Obama has done the same thing. Biden has done that. They all do that. They all say, well, I'm going to cut off your title nine funding. If you don't put the boys in the girls bathroom, they all do that. And yet now you've got these judges out there saying that you have to give the money out on USAID. It's crazy. Or you, they, they put an order out, send the two astronauts back into space. Two they just rescued.

It's just, it's absolute lunacy. I think they need to close some of these judge ships and just shut them down. They, I can't believe they've got that many judges that are supposed to be impartial that are so political, but that's, that's the point in the case. I'd like to go over a couple of things sure as far as this book my number one preaching point again is store food and water store life to say life sustainable medicines I've got a list of things that people go to that they can look into it's what I call my new home for the Civil Defense manual Jack Lawson books calm

But I would like people to look at what is in the Civil Defense manual. Yes, I think they'll find literally the a to Z of Survival If you know what's in this book, and you can get the cooperation of your neighbors, or as I know some people have their own private security force, and that is this. They run into like-minded people, young guys, most of them looking for Afghan and Iraqi vets, and they say, bring your wife, your girlfriend, your kids, whatever, bring them to our house.

You're gonna have to sleep on the floor, but we'll have food and water for you. And they pile enough food up to where they can take care of four or five different people. The point that I make in my book, which is a cast and stone, I don't recommend people going out and going remote. That's just asking for problems. I liken it to this. People got to think the last time they went camping with their kids and they got out there and what they forgot Which was just about everything

The long and shorter thing is if people go remote there's another thing Wherever they go, there's gonna be some people close by Eventually these people who are living out there because they don't want to be around people are going to see this family that's out there as nothing but rodents. Potentially they're going to be over to their house asking for food and water. And they're eventually going to probably try to take it. Now outside of storing food in the house and staying in your neighborhood, which I advocate you have way more resources in your neighborhood.

And so you're talking about this in terms of, you know, somebody has a bug out bag and you know, they've got maybe some remote location that they hardly ever go to. And so, you know, if something happens, maybe if it's a natural disaster, that's a good plan. But if it's, you know, something else, that's a good plan. But if it's something else, that's not necessarily a good plan because there's a lot of risk on the travel as well as once they get there,

they don't know anybody, right? Point is, David, how are you gonna get out of some of these metro areas? You're not gonna be able to get out of there. That's right. Las Vegas police did a study, I told you about this once before. They randomly stopped 1,000

vehicles unless somebody is really impaired they knew they were drinking or they're on drugs they didn't do anything to them but they did one thing and one thing only how much gas you got in your car and they came up with those thousand cars an average of three eighths of one tank a little over a quarter of a tank of gasoline. Now, you're gonna go out of town 100 miles. How far are you gonna get before the freeway looks like a parking lot from people running out of gas,

cars breaking down, general traffic. We had an experience. How are you gonna get to your bug out location? You're not. We had an experience with that. We went up one, just before Thanksgiving once and we were going up to Niagara Falls. And so we were going through, um, uh, Buffalo where they have a lot of snow and they had a record snowfall for a 24

hour period and it happened all at once. And so even though the people there have a lot of snow removal equipment, even though they're experienced with it, and even though you got a lot of people who've got four-wheel drive SUVs or whatever, the roads got blocked. You know, it just took a little... One person who is like, oh, it's coming down really fast, I got to get home. They get stuck because they got a little tiny car. Then another person with a little tiny car gets stuck. And before you know it, the road was completely, we got stuck in that situation.

We eventually got out of it because we picked up a guy who lived there, but the, and he took us through some very back, some back roads and stuff like that. But I saw how quickly that happened just because, not because of gas, but because they didn't have the appropriate car to be able to get through it.

And none of the snow removal equipment could get there. So that's exactly right. People are gonna run out of gas and everybody's going to get stuck trying to get out of the city. As Travis said, you're not going to be able to escape from New York. Are you? Well, say you do get out of the city. You got your bug out bag, 72 hour bag. A lot of people call it. What are you going to do after 72 hours? You can maybe stretch that bag out if you have the discipline in the family

To five or six days, but that's about it Then you're gonna be looking for water and you're gonna be looking for food and like I put in a civil defense man You're treating water. You're gonna look at water that looks like it's not some kind of a beer commercial It's so clear crystal clear, but you drink it. It's going to be like some water I drank in Africa. It had dead monkey in it. I didn't know it had a dead monkey in till one of the guys removed the pump cover or the float cover from the thing and I wish I hadn't drank it. The black guys with me, they're all peachy because they're used to drinking stuff like that. Me, I won't tell you the story, it was ghastly. What happened to me the next couple days?

And it took me over a month to get rid of this. It was maybe dysentery. So the water is gonna be an issue, the food's gonna be an issue. You can get books, and I recommend people have this, even if they stay in their neighborhood on wild edibles I've got all this stuff in the book Mm-hmm if people go on my website and simply look at some of the free resources

I'll tell you what you have to do for one thing People have no idea how important sanitation is That's what I call That there's a deadly two sisters that are diseases that if you don't have sanitation and I'm not talking about taking care of your garbage I'm talking about people's bowel movements and urination. It's got to be taken care of. You have to do it in specific places. It cannot get into water supplies. You also have to bury your cans, your containers and stuff because you gotta remember, you're out in the wild.

You're not in your area. You're in wildlife jungle area, literally. I don't care where you go in this country. I can go out in the desert here and I'm in wildlife area. There's coyotes out there, there's mountain lions out there, there's all kinds of issues and they're looking for something to eat too. Now people can get a lot of this and the free resources and I encourage people to go into JackLawsonBooks.com and look at some of this stuff, read some of this stuff. People think everything's gonna go on.

One of my favorite pictures in my book is a picture of a beautiful subdivision and it's winding street and all these picture perfect homes. And the other half of the meme is an armored vehicle and three guys firing their rifles and The captions say this This is what normal stability looks like and then it says but this is what base humanity

Behavior looks like the guys firing the weapons. And we're so fortunate in this country. I feel like an insurance salesman trying to sell an intangible because people think, oh, turn the water, tap on, water's coming out. That may or may not happen if we have enough problems in this country. That's right. Yeah, you're like an insurance salesman trying to sell life insurance to a healthy 25-year-old.

But what he doesn't know is that he's got cancer, you know? And there's a cancer in this country. Regardless of what you see happening right now, we know the direction that this is likely going to take, and that's the real issue. You're trying to sell insurance to people who are not aware that there's a really bad disease that is going around and that's the key part of it. That bad disease going around is corrupted logic circuits in people's minds. We went through this before.

When Trump got in the last time, the survival business just went on hold with people. That's right. They weren't interested. Even if... This time he's in, he's changing things. And because he's changing things, there's going to be a pushback and we haven't even seen it yet. That's right.

Yeah. Well, you know, it's always that way. Whenever a Democrat gets in, everybody starts buying guns. And when a Republican gets in, nobody buys any guns or ammunition or things like that. And it doesn't necessarily, nothing is necessarily changed. And so, you know, I just saw, I didn't get to it today, but there was an article that the ATF has got like a honeypot trap trying to put up a website and think, you know, talking about how they're going to, hey hey you want to buy this illegal item and then once somebody

bites on that they come swooping in on them you know so that kind of stuff is still going on people think oh that that isn't an issue because now Trump is in power far from it's good it's gonna take him all of four years to get rid of most of those people. Yeah, if he even wants to. Yeah, and if the Democrat or the left gets back into power, they'll fully reverse everything. Right away, exactly. Yeah, if he takes it all out by executive order, they'll put it all back in by executive order next time it comes around. So you better prepare as if it's not going to go away because if it does if any of the stuff even does go away It'll only be temporary. Yeah. Well, at least we haven't seen what I've seen in some countries and That's the car bomb. I've been in two places where two different countries Northern Ireland and

Rhodesia where car bombs are set off 3040 people killed and we haven't seen that and we haven't. The biggest thing I think. Not yet anyway. Yeah not yet. The biggest Achilles heel I believe is our vulnerable infrastructure. Shoot a hole through a transformer at a power relay station and you're down for the count It's too much. I explain it in the book why this is so critical why we also Probably have a big threat with the EMP At some point Putin is probably going to call the German Prime Minister and say, hey, you know that city, Dresden,

that was fire bombed in World War II? Well, we're going to send a hypersonic missile over there with a conventional warhead, but it's going to be a big one. And so why don't you evacuate that city? If they attack and get in troops on the ground over there, that place could go up in flames again. I don't know what we would do as a response, but... Yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, you know, remember, it was like a day or two after Trump became president,

he had that Stargate thing, right, where he brings in Larry Ellison. And he says, you know, our grid is really old, and it's very vulnerable. So you guys need to set up your own power plant right next to, you know, your own source of power right next to your manufacturing facility. And it's like, oh, so you're not going to do anything to fix the grid or to help its vulnerability to an EMP attacker. That's nice to know that you're not even interested in it. You're going to tell all your pals to set up their own private power source.

But yeah, that's the way this is all going. And again, anybody who trusts government, that's a real concern. Overall, I've said the problem with Trump is that he put a big pacifier in everybody's mouth the first term. Now he's putting trust in, and that's the big concern. Well, thank you for joining us, Jack.

We're out of time, but everybody go to jacklawsonbooks.com. He's got links there to take you to his sub stack. You can see free resources there. He's got other books as well. And Civil Defense Manual is in stock. And I guess they can still get there with the old email address or old website address. But Civil Defense Manual, one of your best resources you can find. Thank you so much for joining us. You're welcome. Thank you David. Thank you. Hello

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